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lapis gull May 16, 2024, 7:58 PM

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Is that on a Pi by any chance?

long ember May 16, 2024, 8:56 PM

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Yes it is!

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Sorry I should have mentioned that. Raspberry Pi 3

lapis gull May 16, 2024, 8:59 PM

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Plug the USB devices into a powered USB hub

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99.999% likely you've hit a power problem, which is common on the Pi

long ember May 16, 2024, 9:02 PM

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Oh wow really? That’s kinda annoying but i may have to try that

lapis gull May 16, 2024, 9:02 PM

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The Pi is well known for having power, and SD card, problems

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Maybe the Pi5 won't be as bad, but probably it will be

long ember May 16, 2024, 9:02 PM

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well I’ve been running on it for years now without issue

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But I did run into the SD card failure recently

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So I switched to a usb solid state

lapis gull May 16, 2024, 9:03 PM

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That's not helping

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The Pi3 has very limited power for the USB ports, and you've blown well past that limit

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Powered USB hub FTW

long ember May 16, 2024, 9:03 PM

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lapis gull Maybe the Pi5 won't be as bad, but probably it will be

That was my next question, is this kind of problem remedies on newer Pi’s (sounds like maybe not?)

lapis gull May 16, 2024, 9:04 PM

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Try moving off of educational toys to proper hardware 😉

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A second hand small form factor PC, of the kind regularly suggested in #hardware-archived, is not much differently priced to a Pi4/5 with SSD, and far better

long ember May 16, 2024, 9:06 PM

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Really? I’ll have to dig up some of those recommendations

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You don’t recommend one of the HA blue or yellow machines?

lapis gull May 16, 2024, 9:07 PM

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Green, maybe

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I know there were supply problems with the Blue at one point

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But still, for the same kind of money you can get much better hardware

long ember May 16, 2024, 9:09 PM

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Feel free to say no and I’ll dig for myself, but can you recommend one or two specific machines for me to check out? I’m a software engineer by trade but never really been a big hardware geek…

lapis gull May 16, 2024, 9:09 PM

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Honestly, check the history of #hardware-archived - Dell and HP boxes turn up a lot

long ember May 16, 2024, 9:09 PM

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Okay

lapis gull May 16, 2024, 9:09 PM

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Your options will be influenced by your country

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I bought a BeeLink, new, with a Ryzen 5 in it

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Overkill for just HA, but perfect for Frigate and everything else

long ember May 16, 2024, 9:12 PM

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Gotcha. Okay thanks for these tips. Leaving work now and will grab a powered hub from best buy on my way home. Hoping that gets by HA back up and running while I research one of these longer term solutions. I greatly appreciate your time and input 🙏🏾

long ember May 16, 2024, 10:44 PM

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Can images not be posted in here?

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It’s pretty much doing the same thing with the hub…

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Here’s what my screens are showing https://postimg.cc/gallery/r8W3jGw

lapis gull May 17, 2024, 9:32 AM

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How are you powering the Pi?

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How are you powering the USB hub?

long ember May 17, 2024, 9:34 AM

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Both plugged into a power strip

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Do you suspect one or both isn’t getting proper power?

lapis gull May 17, 2024, 9:37 AM

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Right, but how are they powered, what power sources for each?

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Hopefully not just plugged into a USB port on the strip?

long ember May 17, 2024, 9:40 AM

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No they both have their own power supply things. Ac adapters I think they’re called?

lapis gull May 17, 2024, 9:42 AM

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Ok... progress

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Details?

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Help us help you 😉

long ember May 17, 2024, 9:43 AM

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lol you mean details about the power supply?

lapis gull May 17, 2024, 9:43 AM

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Yes

long ember May 17, 2024, 9:44 AM

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Well one is a 5V 2.5A Raspberry Pi 3 B+ Power Supply I got off Amazon

lapis gull May 17, 2024, 9:45 AM

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Ok, so probably that's ok, though it may no longer be ok. There's a history of those things - particularly the unofficial ones or knock offs - degrading over time

long ember May 17, 2024, 9:47 AM

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The USB power adapter is 5V/4A

lapis gull May 17, 2024, 9:48 AM

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Try swapping them over, if you can, maybe they'll work better that way

long ember May 17, 2024, 9:50 AM

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Swapping?

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Oh no they have different connectors. The pi is a micro USB and the usb hub is um

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I forget what it’s called

lapis gull May 17, 2024, 9:51 AM

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Different 😛

long ember May 17, 2024, 9:51 AM

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lol yes

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Oh you know what

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I do have the pi power supply plugged into a smart plug

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Reason being, sometimes my HA would just crap out and the only way to fix it was to power cycle it. Well super annoying when I wasn’t near it so I put it on a Kasa WiFi plug so I could power cycle it remotely

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Which has worked well for several months

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It what’s also strange is that this is only a problem with my zooz zwave dongle. If I unplug that, it starts up. I also have a zigbee usb dongle that works fine

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So could it be that the zwave usb stick is corrupted?

lapis gull May 17, 2024, 9:57 AM

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Doubt it, it really does sound like a power problem

long ember May 17, 2024, 9:57 AM

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Hmm

lapis gull May 17, 2024, 9:58 AM

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Pi's and power problems go hand in hand like bacon and everything

long ember May 17, 2024, 10:08 AM

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I’m going to try removing the smart plug shortly

long ember May 17, 2024, 10:48 AM

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Nah it does the same thing even without the smart plug

long ember May 18, 2024, 3:48 AM

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Found that there seems to be a somewhat widespread issue with OS 12.3 https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/issues/3362

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