#Chit Chat
opal current
have you been doing it long?
high rampart
I mostly learn things when I need them for something. I'm not quite sure when was the first time I programmed something. There's always time gaps with stuff I do. My interests rotate and switch frequently.
opal current
Yeah I don't learn anything unless I need to do something too
lol
but you get paid to do something on computers?
high rampart
No, just a hobby.
opal current
ah okay
high rampart
Let't keep the chit chat here and the HA related stuff in #general-archived .
Currently a 5950x.
I kept my last PC for > 8 years. I wanted to do the same so I just built the fastest PC I could afford. I actually kept my old case.
high rampart
I don't recommend AM4 for "small" servers. The power consumption in idle is too high for my liking.
opal current
im not used to dischord
high rampart
There are better CPUs for gaming but it's one of the fastest AM4 ones for general purpose computing.
opal current
built the fastest pc you could afford... referring to your current am4 build?
oh no my am4 build will/would be for my "daily driver"
opal current
then I'll take the one I have now (4th gen intel) and use THIS for the server-type-thing
yeah it's just the 4th gen ryzens you wanna stay away form right?
high rampart
I can only again recommend to virtualize. You don't need thirty servers each for a different purpose.
opal current
I was looking at the 4500 due to price... then saw a ton of bad reviews
right yeah you don't want/need a bunch of devices
high rampart
I'd buy one which has PCIe 4 support.
opal current
the computer I'm on now can absolutely handle all of this stuff running in VM/containers
hmmmm ok
you're talking about the cpu and mobo right?
pcie 4 support for both
opal current
my plan is to end up using this am4 build for at least 5 years minimum...
high rampart
Mostly so you can have PCIe 4 SSDs. Some newer GPUs also only have 8 physical lanes so PCIe 4 can help. There should be some benchmarks about PCIe 3 x8 vs PCIe4 x8.
opal current
when I upgrade to a new mobo after that depends on if I end up finding a job that pays decently
I'm thinking of getting a b550 board.. I don't want to buy another am4 board in the future
and just getting a dirt cheap am4 cpu right now... upgrading it in the future
i need to spend as little as possible
high rampart
You can filter for stuff you need here: https://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=mbam4
I built two AM4 systems with these:
opal current
cool lemme take a look I've never seent aht site
so you went with a b550 then... cool
high rampart
You can search and compare CPUs here: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/CPU_mega_page.html
opal current
brb i need some water and food
high rampart
All you get when you filter for ones which have a PCIe 4 NVMe slot: https://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=mbam4&xf=18947_1
You don't really need this though.
What to pick depends a lot on the other components.
high rampart
cool lemme take a look I've never seent aht site
I like it a lot because you can compare stuff, wish list, alert prices, price history, filtering, find the cheapest shop for buying multiple things. It's awesome.
opal current
mmm that is useful.
so many options. I need to understand the importance of all the variables better..
vrm, pcie etc
high rampart
What's your budget, what do you want to use the PC for?
You can also just filter by price and sort by popularity. Then check reviews for the board.
opal current
it'll just be a general purpose ... web browsing, some games... I want to try to play with ai a bit at some point but that could be done on another computer when I have more money
yeah. I think I"mm just going to get a very cheap b550
i found some for like 50 bucks...
so.. i'm gunna try to keep the whole thing at only about 100... for the cpu and mobo... just buy off eBay
and/or amazon warehouse
high rampart
AM4 lends itself well to buying used as it's older.
high rampart
The site is just so you can compare and pick something that fits your needs. Where or how you buy doesn't really matter.