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coarse copper
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  1. Zigbee supports binding which allows one device to directly control another. Not all devices support this, and it would require you to use Zigbee for both switch and bulb. The sensible approach would be to not use smart bulbs ๐Ÿ˜›
  2. An automation
  3. Check the docs for it
final ice
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  1. Unfortunately, the bulbs are all Lifx WiFi bulbs. The reason for using both smart switches & smart bulbs is single click = toggle, double click = custom brightness, and this would not work without both components being "smart"
  2. Right. Thought so ^^
  3. Docs (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/WS-EUK04.html#xiaomi-ws-euk04) don't mention anything about it, that's why I thought to as here ๐Ÿ˜…
coarse copper
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You can use a smart dimmer and dimmable dumb bulbs

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  1. Means that it's not supported by Z2M then
final ice
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That won't work in this specifc situation unfortunately. I have a double rocker switch - left side control the light and right side controls a ceiling fan ๐Ÿ™‚ I will consider smart dimmers for two other implementations though

Flip indicator light is what I tried first, but that doesn't cut it - instead of if switch on then light on it turns it into if switch on then light off

coarse copper
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So... put a smart dimmer module behind a dumb double switch

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coarse copper
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Sure, that or something similar

final ice
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Do you know if dumb switches can provide a "double press" or "long press" or some such input to a smart dimmer?

coarse copper
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They don't, the smart dimmer does

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The switch/toggle is just an input device

final ice
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okay so basically it is possible to program it such that if I flip the physical dumb switch twice in quick succession, the smart dimmer sees it as a double click input?

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Sorry if this sounds noobish, I JUST started getting into all this

coarse copper
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Well, that's up to the dimmer

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You need it to support that

final ice
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Ah okay

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I always though that it was entirely impossible

coarse copper
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Easier if you're using a momentary switch, rather than a toggle

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Then support for hold/double/triple press can happen