The "state" here doesnt even say what unit it is
#templates-archived
trim leaf
is generic_thermostat also looking for the unit_of_measurement state_attr as well?
well, I can mess with it, and dump it in a template sensor if needed
inner mesa
I don’t know what condition you’re trying to satisfy
You have a number that happens to be a temperature and you want to use it as data for a service?
trim leaf
My end state is this: I need to give generic_thermostat a target_sensor which I assumed needed to be a sensor entity.
The target sensor needs to be based on "occupancy" behavior, using input_booleans. If an input_boolean is true, then its corresponding sensor can be inlcuded in the calculation. Ultimately the highest/lowest temperature is used as the target_sensor temp
hopefully I am making some sense, its all jumbled in my head trying to figure out how to accomplish this
inner mesa
I haven't seen or used generic_thermostat before, but I see it now
you can replicate everything in your screenshot in a template sensor based on an input_number
device_class, units, etc.
if it cares about all that. I'm not sure what it means by "must be a temperature"
as in, what it checks to ensure that
but you can make it look however you want
trim leaf
yeah that was a little unclear to me too, but I think youre right that storing in a input_number and manipulating that via automations is the right call here
I was trying to do too much within a single template sensor
inner mesa
there are a bunch of hits on the forum for things like "generic_thermostat input_number"
that's usually for "temperature", but I would think it would apply to any of the sensor values
kinda the point of generic_thermostat, it seems
trim leaf
Alright let me give this a shot. Thanks a ton for the help!
inner mesa
np, good luck. come back with any questions
silent barnBOT
urban turret
Hello, I would like to calculate total cost of power usage. I have a sensor which gives me the total KWh. So I would like to multiply this with 0.21 to gove met the amount in euros. Thhis is what I have in sensors.yaml:
https://hastebin.com/mekafaheya.bash
But unfortunately this isnt working. What am I doing wrong?
silent barnBOT
arctic sorrel
Which bit isn't working?
urban turret
I get an error in HA.
Invalid config for [sensor.template]: expected a dictionary for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['friendly_name']. Got '“Net Power”'
expected a dictionary for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['netpowercalc']. Got None
expected a dictionary for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['value_template']. Got '{{ ((states.sensor.switch_hs110_1_total_kwh.state | float * 0.21)) | round(2) }}'. (See ?, line ?).
hexed galleon
Wrong tab spacing
On the last one
sensors:
netpowercalc:
value_template: '{{ ((states.sensor.switch_hs110_1_total_kwh.state | float * 0.21)) | round(2) }}'
friendly_name: "Net Power"```Really??? This took me two daysfiguring out what was wrong with the value_template part. I don't have experience with this so I tried to copy examples and adjust to my sensors. I don't have an error now so I will check if the calulation goes as planned. Thank a lot!
arctic sorrel
silent barnBOT
urban turret
I find it very difficult to distinguish indents in the file editor of HA. I can access the files also through Samba. Is there a better editor for editing yaml. files? Under Windows 10
jagged obsidian
visual studio code or sublime text
urban turret
Thnx. Is it possible to directly (samba) get access to the files and is there an error warning available as i the editor of HA? Both look promising
jagged obsidian
VSC has a HA addon that enhances the editing with entity_id autocomplete nad more
you can access all your yaml files with samba or sftp
urban turret
Thnx! VSC it will be
snow zenith
Having trouble with this service template
action:
- service_template: switch.toggle
data_template: >
{% if is_state('input_boolean.alex_sound_trigger2','on') and is_state('input_boolean.alex_movement_trigger2','on') %}
entity_id: switch.telnet_alex_unsettled_both
{% elif is_state('input_boolean.alex_sound_trigger2','on') and is_state('input_boolean.alex_movement_trigger2','off') %}
entity_id: switch.telnet_alex_unsettled_sound
{% elif is_state('input_boolean.alex_sound_trigger2','off') and is_state('input_boolean.alex_movement_trigger2','on') %}
entity_id: switch.telnet_alex_unsettled_movement
{% elif is_state('input_boolean.alex_sound_trigger2','off') and is_state('input_boolean.alex_movement_trigger2','off') %}
entity_id: switch.telnet_alex_unsettled_none
{% endif %}
it works ok in the template editor
Invalid config for [automation]: expected a dictionary for dictionary value @ data['action'][0]['data_template']. Got None. (See ?, line ?).
silent barnBOT
snow zenith
Fixed it
- service: switch.toggle
data_template:
entity_id: >
{% if is_state('input_boolean.alex_sound_trigger2','on') and is_state('input_boolean.alex_movement_trigger2','on') %}
switch.telnet_alex_unsettled_both
{% elif is_state('input_boolean.alex_sound_trigger2','on') and is_state('input_boolean.alex_movement_trigger2','off') %}
switch.telnet_alex_unsettled_sound
{% elif is_state('input_boolean.alex_sound_trigger2','off') and is_state('input_boolean.alex_movement_trigger2','on') %}
switch.telnet_alex_unsettled_movement
{% elif is_state('input_boolean.alex_sound_trigger2','off') and is_state('input_boolean.alex_movement_trigger2','off') %}
switch.telnet_alex_unsettled_none
{% endif %}
you figured it out, you needed quotes around that last bit
soft bough
me? yea i noticed i was mixing ' and " inpropperly
snow zenith
yup
rich stag
not sure if it's a bug, but the template for a rest switch doesn't seem to track the on/off state when using
'{{ value_json.is_active }}'
but does work with
is_on_template: '{{ value_json["is_active"] }}'
and that's me returning via the rest api
return_data = {"is_active": "true"}
return return_data
brisk temple
Can someone take a look at see why this automation is kicking off errors in the logs? The automation still works, not sure why it's kicking errors. Error at the top, automation at the middle and the script the automation calls at the bottom. https://pastebin.com/QGnMLAg8
arctic sorrel
Easy 😉
brisk temple
(error is in the template, don't think this goes in #automations-archived but can move if so)
arctic sorrel
You have two templates neither of which have an {% else %}
If the action is hold then an empty brightness is sent
If the action is anything other than single/double/hold then an empty service is sent
rain pebble
Ok, I made some changes to my lighting automation for sleep/automatic because I have some roommates now. The whole idea is that each bedroom has a sleep and automatic mode. If one bedroom goes to sleep, only that bedroom does, if all 3 go to sleep then the whole house does. Now to make it more complicated, Im tracking if the roommates are home or not. So if one is not home that night, their bedroom would not be counted, and it would only require the other 2 rooms to go into sleep mode for the house to move into sleep.
Here is what I have. https://hasteb.in/ijepekal.php
Im having issues with the second value template. One of the 2 people is not home and the other is right now, and for some reason its still excluding their room. Where is my logic failing for this?
Do I need more coffee?
brisk temple
i think your or is goign to need () around both is_states
both is_states meaning the first 2
hollow bramble
You probably just need to wrap your logic in parentheses to make it execute in the proper order
{% if is_state('device_tracker.jasons_iphone', 'home') or is_state('device_tracker.stevies_pixel', 'home') and is_state('input_select.front_bedroom_override', 'Sleep') %} right now it's condition or (condition and condition)
rain pebble
Do you mean like this?
https://hasteb.in/zecuyimo.php
rain pebble
That seemed to do the trick. Thanks guys
opal dawn
Evening guys. Could use your help with some automation templating....
silent barnBOT
ivory delta
What are you trying to do with the templates? Ignore the code for now, what are the requirements?
From what you've shared, it looks like you're trying to do it only when it's before 6am and after 9pm. That's impossible.
opal dawn
Switch on something when a read out humidity is below 95 for 10 minutes between a certain setup time
ivory delta
Between what times?
opal dawn
should be after 21:00 and untill 06:00 in the next morning
ivory delta
Exactly. That's not what you've written.
You've said that you want it to be on only if it's currently before 06:00 and after 21:00.
opal dawn
Correcto
ivory delta
Today is Friday, right? It can't simultaneously be before 6am on Friday and after 9pm on Friday.
You're trying to do 'after 9pm Friday but before 6am of the next day'
silent barnBOT
ivory delta
So you want a template that checks for 'not between 6am and 9pm'.
arctic sorrel
Or is either before 6 am or after 9 pm
ivory delta
Your templates aren't the problem, your logic is.
opal dawn
indeed mono. 😄
I want to activate it after 9pm and until 6am next day, Thats makes it a bit complicated now you guys mention it
ivory delta
Not complicated. See Tinkerer's answer.
arctic sorrel
If the times are fixed, a time condition will do it
ivory delta
It's tempting to come up with a complex answer to a simple problem if you don't understand it clearly.
opal dawn
The times are fixed but based on input_datetime so therefore using the templating part.
So that if only changed one input_datetime all logics still works
I was hope to get a time window with the template a created it.
hope=hoping
ivory delta
You can... just make it 'or' instead of 'and'.
opal dawn
I need to let that one sink in
ivory delta
If it's 'before 6' or 'after 9', you want it to do the actions. But we're talking about #automations-archived here, not templates 😉
opal dawn
you right 😉 but I my second template part didnt give me the desired result heheh
still harbor
Hi guys, I have a template binary_sensor that is showing as off, however, if I put the template into the template editor, it evaluates as true. I know this isn't a ton of info but I was hoping someone had an idea.
buoyant pine
.share the sensor config
silent barnBOT
still harbor
@buoyant pine I'll have to do this when I get home. Thanks!
spice abyss
I am fairly unfamiliar with templates, but I think this is the right place to ask.
I am trying to pull the Hours and Minutes from an input_datetime defined in my configuration as coffee_time and I am looking at the docs for it, but I am just not sure how to setup a template that pulls hours out as one sensor (I am going to feed this to another device) and minutes out as another. I think it has to look something like this:
input_datetime:
coffee_time:
name: Coffee Time
has_date: false
has_time: true
###
sensors:
ct_h1:
value_template: '{{ states.input_datetime.coffee_time.%h | int }}'
But I cannot get anything to work, nor could I find something close that I could modify until it worked.
spice abyss
You have double quotes around it instead of single quotes, is that important?
buoyant pine
i have double on the outside because i'm using single on the inside
buoyant pine
also, to explain, input_datetime entities have state attributes for hour, minute, etc.
spice abyss
Thanks! I read the docs like 5 times, and it says they do for dates, but doesn't call it out for time, so I thought only the %h and such were defined...
buoyant pine
you can always look at developer tools > states
spice abyss
So anything that shows up there is accessible?
buoyant pine
yeah
spice abyss
Thanks! let me restart and we will see what happens.
still harbor
@buoyant pine here is the config for my binary_sensor:
I hope I did that correctly. I'm trying to accomplish a binary_sensor that is a condition for when to send a notification about motion in my garage. The condition being if the garage door is open (cover.garage_door), the door into the garage hasn;t been opened in 30 seconds (the second part) and an input_boolean is true.
scratch that... an input_boolean is false
buoyant pine
Template sensors only update when the entities in them are updated, so if one of those other entities doesn't update at least 30 seconds after the laundry room door sensor changes state the template sensor will stay off
You could set up a time sensor and use that in the template sensor config
entity_id: sensor.time
``` which will force the template sensor to update every minuteI figured that was the issue. I'll do what I did with the input_boolean and create a timer in node_red
thanks for your help and clearing thst up for me!
buoyant pine
Caught me just in time--I've been putting my phone on silent every Friday night starting at 19:30. Four minutes away 😄
spice abyss
@buoyant pine Hey, it worked like a champ! Thanks.
Not to wear out my welcome, but id like to ask an open ended question... Does it make sense to split my "helpers" out of my configuration file so I don't have to keep rebooting the whole system?
buoyant pine
You can reload those at configuration > server controls regardless of where they're at in your config files
Same with everything you see there
spice abyss
I don't see them there
RELOAD LOCATION & CUSTOMIZATIONS
RELOAD GROUPS
RELOAD AUTOMATIONS
RELOAD SCRIPTS
RELOAD SCENES
RELOAD PERSONS
RELOAD ZONES
analog finch
i have a question regarding template switches. here is a screenshot, i'm hoping to extract the value of hvac fan_mode=X to the switch.
currently template switch does not seem to pickup the fan is running, not sure why tbh.
link to the template switch snippet from my config
https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HjNhdNDZPp/
hollow bramble
What does the value_template that you have commented out render as?
fathom compass
I soldered a button to a contact sensor and now I have a binary_sensor I can physically toggle the lights with. I'd like to make it more complicated. I want to add an action for holding the button for 2 seconds. So one click toggles light A, and a click held for 2 seconds toggles light B.
Does anyone have an example template that does anything similar to this behavior that they don't mind sharing?
analog finch
@hollow bramble i made a post if it helps
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/what-type-of-template-would-work-for-a-hvac-fan/210894
gusty nimbus
hey
i have created some 'sensors' in a new file sensors.yaml
i didn't have an sensors.yaml before
so i tryed to put it in the configuration.yaml file as
sensor: !include sensors.yaml
i did config test was all green so i restarted but nothing there in ha
i think the include don't work
ivory delta
Use the command line checker, not the one in the UI.
silent barnBOT
lavish mantle
Good afternoon.
I flashed my TYMC-1 door sensor with tasmota and configured it according to a template from blakadder.
What I want to add to my HA yaml is the battery level but I don't know how exactly how to add this.
The topic is: stat/Door_Sensor/BATT and the payload can either be: high, medium or low.
Do I need to use a template for this or how to add the sensor in the yaml?
arctic sorrel
Well, first step is an MQTT #integrations-archived - either auto discovered, or manually configured
Tasmota supports auto-discovery though, so I'd start there
lavish mantle
Okay thank you. I doubted between integrations and this channel
timid osprey
Is there somewhere that I can see a list of all the "magical" unit of measurements?
The units that will change the icons automatically and such
inner mesa
I think that's the device_class, and not the units
the units are just a string
device_class
(device_class)(Optional)
Sets the class of the device, changing the device state and icon that is displayed on the UI (see below). It does not set the unit_of_measurement.
"Defines the units of measurement of the sensor, if any. This will also influence the graphical presentation in the history visualization as a continuous value. Sensors with missing unit_of_measurement are showing as discrete values."
inner mesa
that's true, but you were asking about the icons
timid osprey
yeah, it affects icons and such too
inner mesa
you sure?
timid osprey
though undocumented there
let me test something to gaurantee
yeah, if I remove the unit_of_measurement from a temp card I have, it no longer has a thermometer icon
from a temperature template*
inner mesa
set it to some random value?
point being that I don't think there's any comparison being done
inner mesa
ok. make it "foo" and see what happens
timid osprey
inner mesa
interesting, I guess I'm wrong
timid osprey
oh well, I'll look through git to see if I can find anything fun. I was just wanting to use any "magic" where possible
thanks!
inner mesa
time to dig into the source
timid osprey
@inner mesa https://github.com/home-assistant/core/blob/63e55bff5233b975a1062ddbf14ef2450115e500/homeassistant/const.py#L353 if you get curious
inner mesa
thanks! was looking for where the translation from that to icon takes plae
timid osprey
yeah, let me know if you find it. I just wanted to make sure I was formatting my units the way they recognize them internally. If they change the icon, I'll see it. If not, I'll do it manually.
inner mesa
HA does do automatic temp conversion, so I wonder if it's special: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/configuration-template-how-to-convert-f-to-c-on-temperature/189003/34
I'm glad you brought it up because I didn't think it mattered at all
timid osprey
I have a pretty decent history of finding nuances with different software.
man, I just got HA. I love this thing.
I had an unused pi for months.
inner mesa
const unit = state.attributes.unit_of_measurement;
if (unit === UNIT_C || unit === UNIT_F) {
return "hass:thermometer";
}
return domainIcon("sensor");
defaults are at the top based on device_class, and there are a few special cases like that
boom
inner mesa
so it seems
timid osprey
thanks, I'll test it in a moment
yep, @inner mesa I'm getting magic with both the device_class and the units
thanks
I need to find a way to make lovelace rebuild when I edit includes
inner mesa
touch ui_lovelace.yaml
timid osprey
yeah :/
timid osprey
I have only been on HA for two days but a few hours ago I broke everything into clean individual files
it makes it a lot easier for me to manage, even if I have to save lovelace yaml
inner mesa
nice!
I did that for my views, but then ended up sticking my main view in ui-lovelace.yaml to avoid annoyance
also keep in mind that if you use anchors, they don't work across includes
timid osprey
yeah, not using any anchors atm
inner mesa
that's another annoyance. otherwise, I'd have an include file with my anchors
timid osprey
what are you using yours for?
timid osprey
ahh, I haven't installed that yet
I installed card tools and the secondary info mod
well I random one I found on a PR that supports the same formatting
inner mesa
custom cards like button_card avoid the need for card_mod, but not for everything
anyway, somebody will be along shortly to tell us to move to #frontend-archived
timid osprey
lol
inner mesa
The fact that you can go look up the source to answer questions like this is a big reason to stick with HA. Good luck
timid osprey
oh, I found a bunch more
I didn't realize the one you linked me was only for sensor and there are others for binary_sensor
violet oyster
Hey guys, i am trying to conceptualize how I would template to return the calendar days between two events. Of course I can simply subtract the timestamps from one another and divide by 86400, but that returns 'days' meaning 24 hour periods. I want to return how many actual days, so if the current time is 11pm on Sunday and the second event is either 2am or 11pm on Tuesday, it would return 2 days. Having trouble envisioning how I would do this. Any ideas appreciated!
(for context, my goal here is to compare the current date to a date in a google calendar and be able to return if the event is 'today' 'tomorrow' or 'the day after tomorrow' or 'in X days')
buoyant pine
@violet oyster extract the day from the timestamps and find the difference between those
violet oyster
would that work across different weeks? like if today is saturday would tuesday show +2 or -5
or do you mean date
buoyant pine
Date, yeah
violet oyster
ok good idea. ill give it a shot
buoyant pine
Like, 25 - 23
violet oyster
even then i wonder if it would work across months
violet oyster
every way i think about it i hit a roadblock lol
buoyant pine
Well, you could still find the difference in seconds and use templating to determine the number of days based on that
violet oyster
thats how i have it now. round(0) filter to find days
it almost seems like there would have to be some element which would understand context. or im just wrong and its something simple i am not seeing
mighty ledge
@violet oyster Take your current day timestamp and set the timestamp to midnight, then do the calculation.
if the result is less than 24 hours, today. Greater than 24 but less than 48, tomorrow. Greater than 48 but less than 72, day after tomorrow. else x days.
{% set midnight = now().replace(hour=0, minute=0, second=0, microsecond=0).timestamp() %}
{% set event = states('calendar.xxx') | as_timestamp %}
{% set delta = ((event - midnight) // 86400) | int %}
{% if delta == 0 %}
Today
{% elif delta == 1 %}
Tomorrow
{% elif delta == 2 %}
Day After Tomorrow
{% else %}
In {{ delta }} Days
{% endif %}
You'll probably need to edit the {% event = states() %} line to grab the datetime object / timestamp properly. That's just a placeholder.
mighty ledge
@violet oyster also made a topic on the forums for support. https://community.home-assistant.io/t/days-away-from-calendar-date-template-guide/211209
quiet kite
Hello, i control LED over MQTT. In tuya application i can choose if i want use RGB or white led. How can i do this on HA? This is my config: https://pastebin.com/u2QCLU4u
violet oyster
@mighty ledge Thank you!!!!!
gray wharf
Hello All, is there a way i can pass parameters to a template? I need to create 5 template sensors which share the same "templating code" but the output depends on the state of another 5 sensors. So ideally i wanted to have the ability to create `template_sensor_1: which reads from raw_sensor_1" , "template_sensor_2, which reads from raw_sensor_2" etc.
violet oyster
why not just copy and paste to make the extra template sensors?
gray wharf
cause it's a very long template. and maintaining it could be a pain.
violet oyster
i cant think of a way to do that without writing a python script or something
arctic sorrel
You can't "template" template sensors I'm afraid
violet oyster
you couldnt create 5 entities from one sensort
arctic sorrel
You could use YAML anchors
silent barnBOT
violet oyster
ha i did not know that existed
i knew there was a reason to get out of bed today. just didnt know what it was until now.
gray wharf
Yes but with anchors i am pretty sure i cannot anchor in the middle of a template @arctic sorrel
maybe i can use the include jinja2 functionality?
arctic sorrel
You can define a variable before the anchor though, and use that variable
violet oyster
@gray wharf just use vscode and you can maintain/adjust the sensors using search & replace. i have several similar setups and it really isnt that bad
gray wharf
That is true @violet oyster but not being able to reuse a template which is 15 lines of code makes me cry :)
@arctic sorrel ???
so you think this is possible?
data_template: >
{% set myvar = 0 %}
&hey
yo
and then reuse like so?
{% set myvar = 1 %}
<<: *hey
?
gray wharf
hmm i will try but my gutt says no 🙂
violet oyster
@gray wharf you should see my config. youd cry a river
arctic sorrel
Fortunately we're not listening to your gut 😉
gray wharf
nope @arctic sorrel not working.
arctic sorrel
20K lines here 😉
It's possible the issue is with the way you're doing the templating, but the anchors have to be in the same file
violet oyster
how many commented out lol
arctic sorrel
You can't anchor over multiple files
rugged laurel
8 lines here
gray wharf
theyr're in the same file.
violet oyster
lol
rugged laurel
This does "something"
violet oyster
i gotta clean my shit up. so many useless projects i no longer use and didnt want to delete out of sentimentality
i do enjoy going back over my profanity ridden comments i added in frustration before I knew what I was doing
lapis quarry
hello guys, Im new around here, looking for some help on a template im trying to figure out. Please bear with me im not a programer and all this templating really exceeds my level of confort:
I have this piece of code that works:
Not sure how to paste it in the chat 😅
arctic sorrel
lapis quarry
😀
hollow bramble
Which template are you having trouble with? There are several there
lapis quarry
ok, so my problem is if ON time is later than OFF time
that code doesnt cover that scenario
not sure how to work around it
lets say switch on 23:00 and off 02:00
hollow bramble
first I would check the inputs against each other to figure out which one is earliest
lapis quarry
not sure I get what you mean
hollow bramble
{% if states('input_datetime.room03_ac_timer_on').rsplit(':',1)[0] < states('input_datetime.room03_ac_timer_off').rsplit(':',1)[0] %}
lapis quarry
ok
hollow bramble
@lapis quarry check the logic, but this should make it more readable and easy to manipulate https://hastebin.com/oqowoxikik.php
Oh oops, I forgot to change the logic between the two, but hopefully you see the idea
lapis quarry
yes I think that makes sense
awesome, let me tinker with it I will let you know if I can get it to work 😄
hollow bramble
also your condition templates can be simplified
You don't need to if to return a boolean
{{ states('input_datetime.room03_ac_timer_off').rsplit(':',1)[0] == states('sensor.time') }}
lapis quarry
interesting, thanks for the tip, should have came to this chat earlier, been trying to figure all this crap out for months with limited sucess, normally get things to work but takes a lot of guessing
🤣
hollow bramble
Luckily the dev tools template editor makes the "guessing" method very easy
hollow bramble
I mean for doing it all on your own you got 99% of the way there. That's very impressive
hollow bramble
You just described almost any modern programming job
lapis quarry
LOL
well actually the whole system is pretty complex by now, been a year working on it 🙂
Oh oops, I forgot to change the logic between the two, but hopefully you see the idea
@hollow bramble Amazing that did the trick 😄
thanks so much
hollow bramble
and now you know where to find us for further assistance 👍
lapis quarry
yes actually I need to repeat this code 20 times
Its a 20 room building, and im finding my self repeating the code everywhere, there must be a way to rehuse code, that is something I need to figure out
would be extremelly usefull
any sugestions?
buoyant pine
YAML anchors if everything is within the same file
lapis quarry
I try to organize one file for automation, for instance I have a file where I would have this same automation repeated 20 times
that is how I have structured everything until now
buoyant pine
you can simplify it a bit reduce lines too:
{% if timer_on < timer_off %}
switch.turn_{{ 'on' if timer_on <= current_time and timer_off > current_time else 'off' }}
{% endif %}
"simplify" 😱
buoyant pine
@lapis quarry might want to make an exception for this. YAML anchors could be a big help here
hollow bramble
You could also get clever with the template, but it could get really complicated really quickly
lapis quarry
@lapis quarry might want to make an exception for this. YAML anchors could be a big help here
@buoyant pine What is that about
buoyant pine
you can reuse that service_template with an anchor/alias combo instead of copying and pasting it 20 times. that will also allow you to update the template once if you need to make changes instead of 20 times
but again, everything needs to be in the same file for this to work
lapis quarry
everything?
buoyant pine
everything that uses this same template
any automations that you want to use the anchor/alias with, rather.
lapis quarry
The way I ahve it is I have a file with the 20x input_datetime.roomXX, another file with the 20 switches, etc..
buoyant pine
packages
wait, that doesn't matter. i'm just talking about the automations
are all 20 automations in the same file?
lapis quarry
yes, that would be the idea have the 20 in the same file but that I dont have to write 20 times the same thing
buoyant pine
right, so anchors/aliases would work for you then
lapis quarry
It would be awesome for maintenance and future upgrades, its a nightmare to mantain and modify now
😭
buoyant pine
anchors and aliases
lapis quarry
https://support.atlassian.com/bitbucket-cloud/docs/yaml-anchors/
@buoyant pine ok but this sounds chineese to me
jaja
buoyant pine
here's an example from my setup: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JtHHqtfp3v/
i want to use the same data in color_name in both service calls, so i made color_name an anchor with &color and referenced it for value: at the bottom with *color
so when home assistant reads that file, it sees this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2KKNTn3cK6/
lapis quarry
I see
buoyant pine
lapis quarry
yes that seemed to work
What I was hoping was more like how it could be done in a way I can define somewhere for example I need 20 instances and it would automatically generate them, (need to deploy this in diferent locations that will have different amount of rooms, the automations and functionality is the same every time but I need to adjust the code for the number of instances needed everytime, the way im handling now it is just having all the automations created in background and just not displaying the ones that are not used in the frontend
quiet kite
hey
lapis quarry
its not very elegant solution and a waist of resources
but its the best I could come up with to make it managable and scalable
not sure if what im saying is even possible
quiet kite
i want to use white_value_scale in light mqtt template, but white_value_scale is not supported on template. How can i scale this? My max white_value is 1000, and ha max is 255. Now i have this: {{ white_value * (1000/255)}}
lapis quarry
waste
buoyant pine
@quiet kite share the config for the mqtt light
silent barnBOT
quiet kite
@buoyant pine https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4NdmsDhG3g/
buoyant pine
good lord
quiet kite
😭
lapis quarry
need to get some rest, 1 am here, will be back tomorow, thanks for all the help guys much apreciated 😄
buoyant pine
i'm not saying it's wrong, i was just overwhelmed by the number of lines lol
quiet kite
I think so
But i must write few additionals lines, for example support for getting colour state...
buoyant pine
the math looks fine, but you might need to convert white_value to a float and then the result to an int
quiet kite
So isnt simplest method to scale?
, "22": {{ (white_value|float * (1000/255))|int}} ?
buoyant pine
looks fine, but i don't know for sure if you can use templates there
quiet kite
works, so i thinks that is good
i have few this controller drivers, can i make any template from this, and give only state_topic, command_topic, and name?
or not a template but function or method
haughty briar
good morning guys, is it a normal behavior that the value_template triggers when the sensor goes to unavailable?
'{{ states.sensor.canon_ts5000_series_magenta.state | int < 15 }}'
dreamy sinew
Surprised it doesn't throw an exception
But in jinja2 if a non numeric string is cast to an int it gets set to 0
Tl;dr that's normal
haughty briar
i solved it like this: {{ states('sensor.canon_ts5000_series_magenta') != 'unavailable' but it's additional code 😕
carmine aspen
hi all, I'm trying to write a template that checks if the state of an entity has been in that state for 2 hours. Is this possible with the templating engine, or do I need to resort to a condition automation
buoyant pine
What are you trying to do?
carmine aspen
I have a message that I want to send if the state of my garage door has been closed for 2 hours
buoyant pine
State trigger with for: '02:00:00'
carmine aspen
{% if is_state('cover.garagedoor', 'closed')%} will check if its closed, but how to check if it's been closed for x period of time?
can an automation have 2 triggers?
buoyant pine
No need for a template here
carmine aspen
right now i have it on a time trigger on certain days
buoyant pine
Yeah you can have multiple triggers, conditions, and actions in an automation, but let's go to #automations-archived
carmine aspen
ok
quiet kite
hey
i have sonoff mini with installed esphome. I add this ESP to HA by using webUI in HA. How can i add esphome on yaml configuration?
arctic sorrel
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/esphome says UI only
quiet kite
I cannot belive to this.
arctic sorrel
Why?
quiet kite
because configuration by UI isnt easy to move or copy or share
arctic sorrel
In Home Assistant? That's #automations-archived
In ESPHome, that'd be a thing to ask on their Discord
quiet kite
ok, thanks
brittle saddle
as can be shown in this screen shot: the top text says both doors are open but they clearly arent as shown below: https://i.imgur.com/JYnFlTl.png
silent barnBOT
arctic sorrel
Test your template, make sure it works
brittle saddle
this is the code ``` rules: >
{% if states('binary_sensor.back_door') %} <li>Back Door is
Open</li>{% endif %}
{% if states('binary_sensor.side_door') %} <li>Side Door is
Open</li>{% endif %}```
oh nice ive never tried the template dev tools yet
the test says is true no matter what the status of the door is
is there a way to have it tell me what the states are?
i tested like this {% if states('binary_sensor.back_door') %}true{%endif%}
then open and closed the door and it stayed true
arctic sorrel
If only we had templating documentation...
{% if is_state('binary_sensor.back_door','on') %} <li>Back Door is
Open</li>{% endif %}
oh i just copy paste what mono gave me so i just assumed it was correct
ivory delta
I can't template, don't trust me 😄
brittle saddle
lol ok i will keep it in mind! 🙂
arctic sorrel
Trust but verify
brittle saddle
ah ok this is where all the good info is: https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/ i was looking at the first link
based on what these docs say shouldnt this show me the states in the template tester? {{ states('binary_sensor.side_door') }}
or can you not use the template test in that way?
oh nvm its working now, it just says off
arctic sorrel
Which would be correct
brittle saddle
i thought it would print all the available states
arctic sorrel
No
brittle saddle
how would i go about finding the possible states of an entity? i know its not needed in this case
arctic sorrel
Other than for things that are binary there's an infinite number of available states
brittle saddle
ah ok
i didnt think a door would be on/off though, i thought open/close or maybe true/false, good to know that binary is always on/off
arctic sorrel
Well, yes
That's explained in the fine manual
And also easily seen by looking in 
-> States
brittle saddle
oh very nice thanks
brittle saddle
this looks a lot like twig
i guess they use the same base schema or something
or maybe they are both forks of the same thing or something
ivory delta
They're both templating engines. They're all trying to do the same thing.
hollow bramble
Did you test the template in the templates dev tool? And did you check that the entity/attribute actually exist?
You see that sensor in states?
well you're trying to create a sensor with the same entity_id as an already existing sensor, that might be part of the problem
wispy shale
Is there a way I can put a phone on vibrate in a template?
arctic sorrel
Well, if there's an integration that supports it, then yes
wispy shale
So basically when you tell Google Assistant goodmorning or goodnight, it can control those things, but not when you use a Google Home to do that. I want to use Google Home
arctic sorrel
Templates are just ways of allowing your automations and scripts to be flexible
wispy shale
Maybe I should ask there then, thanks
arctic sorrel
With scissors?
The actual answer will depend on context... 😉 What data you're working with, what you're looking to extract, etc etc etc
arctic sorrel
Photo... of text 🤔
-> States @naive plinth - find the entity and copy and paste the attributes. Remember to use code markup 😉
silent barnBOT
naive plinth
how can I cut out the values I need? I have sensor ups with state: Bus Voltage: 5.092 VBus Current: 1224.878 mAPower: 6241.951 mWShunt voltage: 61.710 mV
silent barnBOT
patent flame
- platform: template
sensors:
any_window_open:
friendly_name: Janelas
device_class: opening
value_template: >
{{ states.binary_sensor.dw_varanda_sala_contact.state or
states.binary_sensor.dw_varanda_cozinha_contact.state or
states.binary_sensor.dw_janela_wc_rc_contact.state or
states.binary_sensor.dw_janela_lavandaria_contact.state}}
why this binary sensor template always get CLOSED
if all sensores are OPENED?
and if I test in tempates I got ON
in dev tools»template
arctic sorrel
Why not just use a group?
patent flame
This sensor I want to be "ON" if some of this sensors are "ON"
err... cause I never thought of that....
arctic sorrel
I'm lazy...
patent flame
I thought this was the best way to do it...
arctic sorrel
Well, if you want the changing icon it is
patent flame
I don't have that idea of you... 🙂
yes I want to have a badge with the icon changing
arctic sorrel
I'd also swap states.binary_sensor.dw_varanda_sala_contact.state for states('binary_sensor.dw_varanda_sala_contact') (etc)
patent flame
will do
arctic sorrel
But, what you're wanting to do is see if they're on
so really you want is_state('binary_sensor.dw_varanda_sala_contact','on') etc
patent flame
with the first option it got the same result...
arctic sorrel
Yup 😉
patent flame
let's try the 2nd
arctic sorrel
That first option simply returns the current state
Given that the state is on and not true or false...
patent flame
{{ is_state('binary_sensor.dw_varanda_sala_contact','on') or
is_state('binary_sensor.dw_varanda_cozinha_contact','on') or
is_state('binary_sensor.dw_janela_wc_rc_contact','on') or
is_state('binary_sensor.dw_janela_lavandaria_contact','on') }}```same result...
wait
it did not have finished starting...
👍
working
thanks
for this, and the great job and contribution for HA
if I want the badge to change the color is it possible?
arctic sorrel
That's a thing handled in the #frontend-archived - check the card options
patent flame
yeah...
unique gyro
Hello everyone! Sorry to bother but I am trying to create an entity out of a device property with this template :
- platform: template
sensors:
front_deadbolt_status:
friendly_name: "Front Deadbolt Status"
value_template: '{{ states.lock.porte_appartement.attributes.notification }}'
What's the problem?
unique gyro
Sorry for no code formating. 😅
ivory delta
You can format like this:
silent barnBOT
unique gyro
Unfortunately it does not appear in HA 0.112.4
ivory delta
Where did you add it? And did you run the config checker?
unique gyro
In the config file I have a reference to a sensor file which contain some configs. (they do work) but the above code seem's dead.
Yes, the config checker is happy.
hollow bramble
No errors in your log after restart?
unique gyro
I was hoping for. I did several restarts to see if it would output there but nothing. 😦 Usually that's how I fix my problems.
hollow bramble
Where are you looking for the sensor?
unique gyro
In the entities.
hollow bramble
look in dev tools > states
unique gyro
I did it but no luck 😦
ivory delta
Which config check did you do? You should always do the command line one.
silent barnBOT
unique gyro
UI.
Neat! Let me do this! 🙂
The config checker exited with no output. Is that normal?
hollow bramble
that means the config is okay
unique gyro
Oh okay sorry about that. 😅
ivory delta
One last thing to check here since it's sounding more and more like an #integrations-archived question. What does the template show if you put it into > Templates?
unique gyro
That's what I did initially and it show me this : https://i.postimg.cc/PJJfQKRj/image.png
ivory delta
Just the template part, not the whole sensor config.
The bit in {{}} without quotes.
ivory delta
Apart from sharing text as images, yes 😉
Well the template is fine... so you should head over to #integrations-archived to figure out why the sensor isn't working.
unique gyro
Alright then! 🙂 Thank you so much for that speedy help! 🚤
slow vine
shouldn't this work?
- service: mqtt.publish
data_template:
topic: 'bulb/cmnd/backlog'
payload: {{ states('variable.bulb_backlog') }}
as long as I first set variable like this:
variable:
bulb_backlog:
value: 'color 000000FF; pulsetime 400'
Yeah I got it. I forgot the "" around the template.
now it's payload: "{{ states('variable.bulb_backlog') }}" and it works.
cedar chasm
Thanks for your help!!!
lunar osprey
Hello
is there a way to read "states.sensor.salone_temperatura.last_updated" in javascript
cedar chasm
@rugged laurel My text is that long. Wasn't able to make it shorter to explain my problem
lunar osprey
on the lovelace UI?
ivory delta
In JavaScript? That would be a custom cards thing, ask in #frontend-archived
Alternatively, you could make a template sensor, which is an #integrations-archived thing
cedar chasm
taken from the same database. In influxdb and grafana i'll get my outside temp
I want to use that database entry as a ha influxdb sensor
arctic sorrel
Why are you channel hopping?
cedar chasm
sorry, was wrong. deleted
sage fable
Hello, I'm having a small problem with a template sensor. It wont update to the correct value unless I reboot.
- platform: template
sensors:
anyone_home:
friendly_name: Anyone Home
value_template: "{{ states.person | selectattr('state','eq','home') | list | count > 0 }}"
This in my 'sensors.yaml' file.
This works as expected when using the template setion the the Dev tools
I also have other template sensors in the same section that work fine... What am I missing?
arctic sorrel
Because, it doesn't have any entities so it doesn't update
sage fable
ah, so theres no way to just have it use all 'Persons'?
arctic sorrel
Not unless you list them, or give it some other entity it can use to update
You could force it with a date time sensor that updates every minute
ivory delta
Is there a reason you're not just using the state of a group that contains all the persons?
That's the built-in way to check if anyone/someone/everyone is home.
(depending on how you configure it)
sage fable
I see, so the entity being listed is what acts as a triger to update...
mono, only reason is having it this way, it never needs to be changed when adding a new person, it it will just feed off all people listed in the persons section
ivory delta
Which would be great if it was designed to work that way 🤷♂️
sage fable
it will work like that i think with with the time entity as per @arctic sorrel's suggestion
ivory delta
Sure. It's still just a hack though.
And depending on what you're trying to do with it, there may be better options. If it's only for frontend, some cards will do the wildcarding/filtering for you. If it's for automations, a sensor is your only option.
sage fable
Yes its for automations... for example lights on in evening will trigger in node red, if no one is home then it will wait for someone arriving and then perform the action
based on the one sensor value
rather than having multiple triggers.. I find it easier in terms of maintanence because theres not enough hours in the day 😑
hollow bramble
Realistically, how often are you adding a person to your system?
sage fable
Its because I add guests, so that automations trigger just the same way based on their presence
ivory delta
No guest mode? 😮
sage fable
Everything hangs off that one sensor for presence rather than multiple
I have a guest mode, that wont serve the same purpose of lights turning on autmatically if they arrive homw while no one is in
hollow bramble
Adding guests as persons is... more work than I would be willing to do
ivory delta
It's your home, so do what suits you. I just imagine a 'guest mode' as 'make my house dumb for a while so they know how to work it'
Expecting guests to have a device tracker? Pass.
sage fable
I get a telegram notification of a new phone mac connecting to wifi, its just adding that, which is only a one time thing, then link to a person..... then when/if they choose to revisit, then I don't have to anything...
hollow bramble
Heh, wifi device trackers. Yikes
sage fable
Unifi has been solid for tracking based on wifi for me.
buoyant pine
Yeah I use unifi for some limited device tracking, seems to work well
arctic sorrel
Bluetooth tracking FTW 😛
buoyant pine
I'm too lazy to set up monitor
candid gate
hi.
I've been told what I wanted to do could be achieved with a template. I have zigbee wall switch that I connected to nothing, and a fan with a light which can only be operated by an IR remote, but also have wifi config (haiku). I'd like to configure so that if i turn on this switch then it will turn on the fan; same for off ; but I also want to have the fan drive that switch (so the light on the switch matches the status of the fan)
silent barnBOT
arctic sorrel
It might be that a light.group is what you're after, or a Zigbee group, or ...
silent barnBOT
candid gate
hmm, with a light group it doesn't appear that change the state of the member of the group will make the other members copy that state
arctic sorrel
No, but ... you're explaining your solution, not your problem 😉
With a light group you can turn on/off the group
candid gate
I don't believe I did
I described the setup I have, and what I want to achieve
I can achieve what I want be setting two automatiion rules
one using two triggers (either item being turned on) ; which will then set the state of both entities to on
and another automation rules doing exactly the same but for off
surely, there's a better way
arctic sorrel
You can do it with templates, to match the state of the trigger entity
silent barnBOT
candid gate
you said automation templates, but this gave me no useful result when I searched
arctic sorrel
Automations are how things happen in HA - how it reacts
Templates are how you make those flexible
candid gate
and I don't see how this makes it any easier to my current solution of having two rules
arctic sorrel
One, more complicated one
Easier... not necessarily, but you said you wanted to do it without two
candid gate
I had hoped it was something obvious I had missed
smartthings has a mode doing just that, to emulate a 2-way light switch
arctic sorrel
HA doesn't natively do that
On the other hand, the automation and templating engine is powerful enough you can do it yourself
ivory delta
My only warning with using automations to do this would be: consider the timings.
candid gate
hmm. it's annoying that I can no longer create automation rules via the UI, just because I added an automation entry in configuration.yaml to manage zigbee2mqtt
ivory delta
I have 2 pairs of lights that I want to keep in sync. Any delay in communication meant they could get stuck in a permanent on/off loop if the messages crossed.
arctic sorrel
I personally keep all my manual automations out of automations.yaml, but you can mix them in there if you want to
candid gate
I have 2 pairs of lights that I want to keep in sync. Any delay in communication meant they could get stuck in a permanent on/off loop if the messages crossed.
@ivory delta I've never had this happening so far; and that was using those switches via smartthings which has a pretty high latency
@arctic sorrel where do you keep them?
candid gate
do you do something similar to the script: and input_text: entries?
arctic sorrel
No
I don't create any input_X entities in the UI, and script I don't use the UI editor for
Not that I use the UI editor for automations either really
candid gate
those files are to be saved in the same folder?
candid gate
any of those
arctic sorrel
"Helpers" go directly to storage, and aren't in YAML
arctic sorrel
It took... some time to get right
candid gate
i can imagine
ivory delta
You said 30 minutes 😮
arctic sorrel
30 minutes... at a time 😄
candid gate
i draw something with a tool going over some old floorplan I had on paper
looks shit really 🙂
arctic sorrel
I used Inkscape and layers
All the base shapes are rectangles, lined up very carefully at maximum zoom
hollow bramble
candid gate
@arctic sorrel do you have the automation rules described in the z2m doc? the one allowing to rename a device, remove it etc? if so, in which file would that be?
arctic sorrel
I don't, only one I've got is for joining
candid gate
reason I ask is I wonder how I convert the stuff I have in the main configuration.yaml to one in a sub file
looking at your repo; they don't have some entries in there
hollow bramble
candid gate
well, not quite, it doesn't have the same indentation nor automations.
hmm, keep getting errors about expecting keys
arctic sorrel
Well, indentation changes because it's included at that level
So, each included file starts at zero
amber night
Man I am so confused...I don't understand why "value_template" is required when defining a switch...is it used to make sure that the device is on?
That being said, I am trying to use one switch to adjust the thermostats of 2 different devices, how do I include both devices in the value_template state check?
I feel my syntax is probably off, or is the double && right?
silent barnBOT
mighty ledge
It’s required so it knows what to call based on the current state for toggle
arctic sorrel
Show us the whole switch definition please 😉
silent barnBOT
amber night
I haven't tested it yet just wrote it and I feel that value_template is wrong though ^
@mighty ledge thank you that does make sense, so I do need to include both state checks
silent barnBOT
arctic sorrel
You need whatever logic works for you 😉
If the switch is on when both are on, then yes
hollow bramble
&& doesn't work. and
buoyant pine
this ain't bash
hollow bramble
Or <insert 99% of programming languages here>
amber night
thank you, and I'm unsure if "and" is the right way to code this or not but I will try it out and see how it acts
thanks for the syntax for that
mighty ledge
@amber night the language is Jinja2
it's almost identical to python but it has these things called filters
amber night
I guess I could do "or" in case the power is out on one of the thermostats and the switch would still work?
silent barnBOT
dreamy sinew
Jinja has a lot of similarities to python in syntax
amber night
OIC thank you
hollow bramble
in some cases you use python syntax directly
mighty ledge
Well, that's just home assistants version of it. Jinja itself does not have those python calls.
amber night
ah ok im sort of a a shitter, i know c/c++ and so i translate things from that hehe
thanks yall im sure ill be back with more questions
mighty ledge
good news then, you don't have to manage memory
amber night
🙂
naive plinth
how can I cut out the values I need? I have sensor.ups with state: ”Bus Voltage: 5.092 VBus Current: 1224.878 mAPower: 6241.951 mWShunt voltage: 61.710 mV”
I need get bus voltage
ivory delta
That whole string is the state? Where does it come from?
chrome temple
@naive plinth {{ states('sensor.ups')|regex_findall_index('Bus Voltage: ([0-9.]+) V') }}
naive plinth
Thx
arctic sorrel
And no, that won't update, for all the reasons warned in the templating docs 😉
dull bloom
forgive me... I'm new to templates and learning as I go
can I do it in a function node in node red? I really just want to output the value to my echo dot as a TTS anyway
I don't see the warnings to which you refer
arctic sorrel
Your template updates when input_boolean.leia_pooped updates
But, you do realise most cards can display that information without this 😉
dull bloom
that's what I was afraid of... I need to dynamically calculate the time between the last update and now... so my alexa can say "it happened 2 hours ago" -- I'm thinking a function node in node red is probably the way to go
arctic sorrel
You can do it in a template, but exclude it from history/recorder if you do that
dull bloom
I'm setting up an alexa routine so I can ask alexa when was the last time and she can tell me "it was xx minutes/hours" ago
arctic sorrel
dull bloom
ugh... so much to learn
arctic sorrel
The price of great power flexibility 😉
dull bloom
I'm taking a break... been at this all day... eyes are crossing
calm tinsel
Hi,
I require syntax help
I want to divide a valve by 100 of a sensor
value_template: "{{ state_attr('binary_sensor.sonoff_a400006115', 'temperature') }}"
arctic sorrel
It's basically just high school maths, with a tiny twist that templates produce strings, so you need to turn them into numbers again
calm tinsel
@arctic sorrel I understand its basic maths, just can't get the syntax right.
Thanks will try the examples thanks.
mighty ledge
@calm tinsel value_template: "{{ state_attr('binary_sensor.sonoff_a400006115', 'temperature') | float / 100 }}"
arctic sorrel
Pffft, I was trying to teach him to fish...
mighty ledge
🤣
| float is foreign to everyone who doesn't code
tbh we kinda handle it poorly in HA
arctic sorrel
Yeah, stuff like that it should just convert it anyway
mighty ledge
It might actually be a float because it's an attribute
but, that depends on the integration
arctic sorrel
You probably want to round it off too
mighty ledge
maybe some day we will have a system in place for strongly typing crap
arctic sorrel
I'd like a system that just goes oh, you want to treat that like a number, sure
calm tinsel
@mighty ledge thanks.. I had tried this before but got value of 0.0 which isn't correct.
@arctic sorrel All this coding is foreign to me 🙂
arctic sorrel
It won't take long to get the basics
calm tinsel
Could it be that the attribute isn't seen as a number for some reason...
value_template: "{{ state_attr('binary_sensor.sonoff_a400006115', 'temperature') }}" gives me this value "1536" other numeric values aren't in ""
value_template: "{{ state_attr('binary_sensor.sonoff_a400006115', 'temperature') | float / 100 }}" gives me 0.0
ivory delta
Order of operations, methinks.
arctic sorrel
What does
{{ state_attr('binary_sensor.sonoff_a400006115', 'temperature') | float }}
``` show?0.0
arctic sorrel
I suspect the attribute has the quotes as part of the value
Saw this with somebody the other day
calm tinsel
yes it does
battery: 100
trigTime: "1595014489061"
temperature: "1537"
humidity: "3091"
chrome temple
|replace('"', '')
arctic sorrel
Not replace('"', '')?
daring musk
{{ state_attr('binary_sensor.sonoff_a400006115', 'temperature') | replace('"','') }}
yeah
calm tinsel
thanks
Tried a few things... it really doesn't like that
I tried
value_template: "{{ state_attr('binary_sensor.sonoff_a400006115', 'temperature') | replace('"','') }}"
value_template: '{{ state_attr('binary_sensor.sonoff_a400006115', 'temperature') | replace('"','') }}'
value_template: {{ state_attr('binary_sensor.sonoff_a400006115', 'temperature') | replace('"','') }}
daring musk
value_template: >- {{ state_attr('binary_sensor.sonoff_a400006115', 'temperature') | replace('"','') }}
try this
calm tinsel
No luck
@daring musk getting late here.. I will try again in the morning.
Cheers to all that helped.
chrome temple
@calm tinsel
value_template: >
{{ state_attr('binary_sensor.sonoff_a400006115', 'temperature') | replace('"','') }}
I do not know why I am so confused by "value_template" in a switch template...the status of my thermostat reads "auto" and my switch is made to change the target_temp_low and high...should my value_template be checking the temperature values of the thermostat and not the status of the thermostat?
amber night
I think what I'm looking for is input_boolean ok, ok makin progress
buoyant pine
@amber night what is the template switch for?
amber night
to change the temperature range of two ac thermostats back and forth between 2 sets of values, looks like it's working finally! able to read a virtual status now!
calm tinsel
Evening...
So been trying all day, got code that HA accepts but doesn't remove the ''
value_template: "{{ state_attr('binary_sensor.sonoff_a400006115', 'temperature'| replace('"',' ')) }}"
value_template: "{{ state_attr('binary_sensor.sonoff_a400006115', 'temperature'| replace('*"',' ')) }}"
any other idea's?
ivory delta
I'm fairly sure the pipe doesn't go inside the call to state_attr.
buoyant pine
Keep the first but add a ) after 'temperature'
And then remove the extra closing parenthesis
calm tinsel
@ivory delta thank you
silent barnBOT
misty pasture
New to jinja... is there a way to map over a list of states and reduce it to a boolean value? for example, in JS: states.filter(s => s.entity_id.indexOf('people') == 0 && s.state == 'home').length > 0
This seems to work {{ states.person | selectattr('entity_id') | selectattr('state', 'eq', 'home') | list | length > 0 }}
dreamy sinew
It might not update though
candid iron
alias: volume up
sequence:
- data_template: {}
volume_level: '{{ states.media_player.upstairs_lounge_main.attributes.volume_level + 5 }}'
entity_id: media_player.upstairs_lounge_main
service: media_player.volume_set ```im trying to get this working but keep getting an error @plucky token volume level
okay will try
chrome temple
volume:
alias: volume up
sequence:
- data_template:
volume_level: '{{ states.media_player.upstairs_lounge_main.attributes.volume_level + 5 }}'
entity_id: media_player.upstairs_lounge_main
service: media_player.volume_set
required key not provided @ data['volume_level']
its like its not recognising the data_template command
alias: volume up
sequence:
- data_template:
volume_level: '{{ states.media_player.upstairs_lounge_main.attributes.volume_level + 5 }}'
entity_id: media_player.upstairs_lounge_main
service: media_player.volume_set ```value must be at most 1 for dictionary value @ data['volume_level']
chrome temple
Yes, I believe volume is from 0.0 to 1.0.
You should search the community forum. I think this has been done about, um, 1,000,000 times. 😉
candid iron
yeah i did lol and for me i just get errors have everything else working for my media devices in the house except this dam volume issue .
anyway will keep searching
chrome temple
@candid iron Why don't you just use the media_player.volume_up service?
candid iron
let me try
chrome temple
I think it just accepts an entity_id parameter, and increments the volume by 0.1, up to, but not exceeding, 1.0.
candid iron
i tried this and get the data error data: volume_level: 0.05 entity_id: media_player.upstairs_lounge_main service: media_player.volume_up
dreamy sinew
Rule 1 of templating
silent barnBOT
candid iron
do you need to create a template yaml file to reference a template or does home assistant just recognise the syntax ?
buoyant dirge
Hello!!! I have a question
I understand how the tamplates works and how use them, just like programing with variabes and macros, but....
the part I don't get it is where to put them in Home Assistant for use them
dreamy sinew
Sorry, got trigger happy
buoyant dirge
if change the same sensor name, or have to create a new one or how it works
dreamy sinew
Some integrations support templates in their configuration. The docs for that integration will indicate if they do
buoyant dirge
If some one can guide me eater with a video or a page well explain it, or here, thanks I appreciate it!!
ok, what I want to do now is octoprint send the "time elapse" in seconds, I want to show them in DD:hh:mm:ss
{{ sensor.ender3_time_elapsed//84400 }}d {{ sensor.ender3_time_elapsed % 84400 // 3600 }}:{{ sensor.ender3_time_elapsed % 3600 // 60 }}:{{ sensor.ender3_time_elapsed % 3600 % 60 }} ```but, I don't know where to put it on
buoyant dirge
is somebody here?
silent barnBOT
buoyant dirge
Wondering, why is I enter this, the template works:
friendly_name: "Ender3 Actual Bed Temp"
unit_of_measurement: "°C"
value_template: >-
{{ ((states("sensor.e3d_actual_bed_temp")|int() -32) / 1.8) | round(1) }} C
but if I enter it with out the last "C", doesn't work,
friendly_name: "Ender3 Actual Bed Temp"
unit_of_measurement: "°C"
value_template: >-
{{ ((states("sensor.e3d_actual_bed_temp")|int() -32) / 1.8) | round(1) }}
why????
silent barnBOT
arctic sorrel
Does it work when you test it?
The value shouldn't have C in it, since it's already covered by unit_of_measurement
buoyant dirge
yes, I just did with and with out
yes, that's why I am removing the C, but as soon I remove it, don't apply the formula and shows me in F
like should show 0 C, and show me 32 F
arctic sorrel
Ah... your system is using Imperial units...
buoyant dirge
yes
buoyant dirge
ender3_actual_bed_temp:
friendly_name: "Ender3 Actual Bed Temp"
unit_of_measurement: "°C"
value_template: >-
{{ ((states("sensor.e3d_actual_bed_temp")|int() -32) / 1.8) | round(1) }} C
ender3_actual_tool0_temp:
friendly_name: "Ender3 Actual Hotend Temp"
unit_of_measurement: "°C"
value_template: >-
{{ ((states("sensor.e3d_actual_tool0_temp")|int() -32) / 1.8) | round(1) }}
this ones top, show me the value in C, bottom in F
buoyant dirge
ok, So, What should I do to make it work?
arctic sorrel
Well... depends on what you want
If you go with the first, you have a string. If you go with the second, you have a number that HA auto-converts to your system's units
buoyant dirge
I want shows in C, because the 3d printer is the values always use
arctic sorrel
Then you need the first, the string
buoyant dirge
I want use a number, but in C
arctic sorrel
then convert your whole system to C
These are your choices
There is no magic third option
arctic sorrel
🤷
buoyant dirge
hoo, I thugh HA can do a conversion just with unit of measurement
warm isle
@candid iron limit
- service: media_player.volume_set
data_template:
entity_id: media_player.upstairs_lounge_main
volume_level: >
{{ volume + 0.05 if volume + 0.1 <= 1.0 else 1.0 }}
ripe snow
Hello everyone!
I'm trying to move away from a setup where I have an input_select and an automation that selects the next entry thanks to some triggers.
I use this input_select to keep track of the state of the day (Morning, Lunch, Afternoon, Evening, Bedtime, Night).
So I thought about using a template sensor.
The template I've written is this one: https://github.com/eliseomartelli/ParentsHomeAutomation/issues/9#issuecomment-660546090
I've not yet implemented this since I'm not working with entities so I'm not sure if the "now()" will be rendered.
Documentation I'm referring to:
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/#working-without-entities
If I'm understanding it correctly I should move to a sensor based template with something like "sensor.date"
sonic nimbus
Hi, how can I in the script set if statement?
I want only if spotify is not in the state playing to call script below spotcast.start
ripe snow
you can use a condition before the service @sonic nimbus
ivory delta
You don't put if statements in scripts. Scripts are a linear sequence of actions.
If a condition fails, it won't continue.
sonic nimbus
if I put condition to whole script, first two services wont trigger
ivory delta
ripe snow
You could put a condition before the last service call so that if the condition is not met the script doesn't continue
ivory delta
- service.one
- service.two
- condition
- service.three```really? 🙂 I didnt know that! thanks!
rugged laurel
You are correct @ripe snow that should be a template sensor where you specify a entity_id that regularry updates
ripe snow
Thanks @rugged laurel!
LTNS ahaha
rugged laurel
Yeah, it's been a while since I saw you on these parts
ripe snow
Been very busy with life in general, I don't wanna go off-topic, tho @rugged laurel
placid stirrup
Hi everyone! Is there a way to force update an template sensor? It's available for REST sensors but not for template sensors. It needs to write the curr state even though the value isn't changed.
silent barnBOT
arctic sorrel
Show us the sensor, using a code share site 😉
(Yes, you can, but... probably the template is "wrong")
placid stirrup
arctic sorrel
Well, the indenting is a train wreck, but it should auto update when any of those entities update
That said, looks like you want https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/min_max/
placid stirrup
The problem is; the values of the temp sensors won't update that much.. so this template sensor only 'updates' the value when one of the temp sensors changes. So i have in some cases 2/3 points in my graph per hour
placid stirrup
Yes i already tried that.. but it doesn't update, tried it on the template sensor as well on the temp sensors
arctic sorrel
Well, if the value doesn't change, the state won't change
placid stirrup
That's correct, but when you use force_update for example on a REST sensor, it does actually.
arctic sorrel
That's likely because other things change too, attributes etc
ivory delta
I don't think it changes the state, since the value is the same. It just means you can plot extra points on graphs, for example.
Automations won't trigger if it goes 'from' 7 'to' 7, since it was always 7.
placid stirrup
Yes, that's exactly what i want to achieve..
ivory delta
Cool... but that's not the same thing as the state changing.
ripe snow
I've updated my template to this: https://github.com/eliseomartelli/ParentsHomeAutomation/blob/master/homeassistant/entities/sensors/sistema/stato_del_giorno.yaml
LGTM but maybe a second pair of eyes can spot something wrong with it 😉
placid stirrup
yes you're right, so there isn't a way to get more points for plotting with a template sensor if the actual state isn't changing?
arctic sorrel
If the attributes change, maybe
chrome temple
@sonic nimbus et al, starting with 0.113 you will be able to do an "if" statement in a script. The new action option is called choose, and it can be used to implement an if - elif - else type statement (although due to the constraints of YAML it will look a little different. Don't ask! 😉 )
tidal heart
Okay I can't really figure this one out. I have this binary_sensor.last_alarm_triggered and I want to get it's last_updated and show it as x seconds/minutes/days ago and also be able to change seconds, minutes and days to other language
arctic sorrel
In the frontend you can show that in many cards, without writing a template
tidal heart
@arctic sorrel Isn't that only as secondary text?
arctic sorrel
Yes
tidal heart
I would like it to be the main
I have this shiny calendar variant of it but I'm not sure how I can convert it to use the binary sensor instead https://hastebin.com/tekefakiqo.cs
daring musk
Okay I can't really figure this one out. I have this
binary_sensor.last_alarm_triggeredand I want to get it'slast_updatedand show it asx seconds/minutes/days ago
{{ relative_time(states. binary_sensor.last_alarm_triggered.last_updated) }}
humble beacon
Hi. Is it right, that time templates always gives me english values?
daring musk
relative_time template filter does give only english
codebase of template language is not part of hass if i understand correctly
ivory delta
Yeah, all templates will give English results, even if your HA is set up to use another language. I haven't looked too closely but I think it's the Python installation or associated libraries that don't have i18n.
ivory delta
@plush harbor These behave differently. The first one works, the second one doesn't. I think it's because the last_changed isn't exposed as an attribute of the entity itself, it's just a 'hidden' property in HA.
{{ states.switch.bedroom_light_switch.last_changed }}
{{ state_attr("switch.bedroom_light_switch","last_changed") }}```First gives an ISO datetime, second gives 'None'.
Also, just in case it matters to your automation... there are two similar properties, last_updated and last_changed. You'll find that last_updated is often more recent, since it'll be any updates, not just those that change the state.
And for bonus points - how to use these in an automation condition: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-do-i-use-state-last-changed-in-automation-condition/34465
plush harbor
thanks @ivory delta but when I tried the 1 line example, I get a TemplateSyntaxError: expected token 'end of print statement'
that's what led me down the state_attr route, specifically the complaint is got 'x00158dffffffffff'
ivory delta
Ahh... one sec
plush harbor
is there some sort of hex decoding issue?
plush harbor
yes, that solve it
ah, riiiiiiiight at the bottom of the documentation. my bad. Thanks @ivory delta
ivory delta
You're welcome
little gale
How do I set the on switch for a template when a device tracker reports not_home or home?
ivory delta
An 'on switch'? What are you trying to do?
little gale
template switch value template
ivory delta
I don't want to know your solution. What are you trying to do?
little gale
Trying to set the state of a switch if the device is connected
ivory delta
Why? What are you trying to do? You're still describing a solution.
little gale
Shutting down a computer basically
ivory delta
Why does that mean you need a switch?
little gale
Toggling the switch issues a cURL request that shuts down the computer
ivory delta
No. Turning the switch off might. Toggling goes both ways. What do you do when you turn it on?
ivory delta
🤦♂️
mighty ledge
switch:
- platform: template
switches:
pc:
value_template: "{{ is_state('device_tracker.xxx', 'home') }}"
turn_on:
service: ... curl on
turn_off:
service: ... curl off
yep, I had set it to states instead lol
mighty ledge
that'll get you a switch that turns on/off your pc.
@ivory delta take a chill pill. Not everyone is stupid.
ivory delta
Excuse me? Am I wrong to try to determine what someone's actually doing before jumping to conclusions?
It sounded like perhaps the wake_on_lan integration might have been a good fit. I was trying to check my understanding.
mighty ledge
Yes, but you aren't being nice.
little gale
I appreciate all of y'all in the forums and dont want to cause any unnecessary discord.
little gale
well
wol is kinda useless to me cuz the laptop usually is awake or shut down (doesnt have a battery so...)
ivory delta
That makes sense. I didn't know it was a laptop.
orchid onyx
Hi, preatty new to this but doing my best. Trying to make binary_sensor out of sensor. Found this code online, its a Nest Protect device (smoke detector). I use this :
binary_sensor: - platform: template sensors: badnest: frienly_name: "Nest Protect" value_template: >- {{ not is_state('sensor.hallway_nest_protect_co_status', "Ok") or not is_state('sensor.hallway_nest_protect_smoke_status', "Ok") or not is_state('sensor.hallway_nest_protect_battery_health', "Ok"). }}
i get error:
Invalid config for [binary_sensor.template]: [frienly_name] is an invalid option for [binary_sensor.template]. Check: binary_sensor.template->sensors->badnest->frienly_name. (See ?, line ?).
Anyone that can guide a noob? 🙂
buoyant pine
frienly_name
should be friendly_name
when you see something like [frienly_name] is an invalid option for [binary_sensor.template] in an error message, it can mean you've misspelled whatever it mentions in the error
orchid onyx
Oh just noticed that. I added friendy_name in hope that it will help but it was not the mail problem 😦
Invalid config for [binary_sensor.template]: invalid template (TemplateSyntaxError: expected name or number) for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['badnest']['value_template']. Got '{{ not is_state('sensor.hallway_nest_protect_co_status', "Ok") or not is_state('sensor.hallway_nest_protect_smoke_status', "Ok") or not is_state('sensor.hallway_nest_protect_battery_health', "Ok"). }}'. (See ?, line ?).
friendly*, its corrected now but a new error
buoyant pine
probably doesn't like the period at the end of the value_template
orchid onyx
What does that mean? 😫
buoyant pine
or not is_state('sensor.hallway_nest_protect_battery_health', "Ok"). }}
remove the period at the end
orchid onyx
Oh you are a god! Trying to figure this out for like 2 hours and I said "leets try discord". Thanks alot! that solved my problem!!! 😍
orchid onyx
So i Try
So I try to use the code to get the sensor into my dashboard and even in homekit. But its status is triggered even if the status is "ok" on all 3 sensors, what is wrong? 😦
buoyant pine
oh. check the actual state of those sensors at developer tools > states
states are case sensitive. i suspect the actual state is ok, not Ok
orchid onyx
Already done, they are Ok
Also tryid this code but same thing: value_template: >-
{{ states('sensor.hallway_nest_protect_co_status') != 'Ok'
or states('sensor.hallway_nest_protect_smoke_status') != 'Ok'
or states('sensor.hallway_nest_protect_battery_health') != 'Ok' }}
buoyant pine
what's the state of the binary sensor you created when all sensors are Ok?
orchid onyx
In states it says: On
Ok, so thats why its "triggered" but why is the state "On" if all states on sensors are "Ok"?
buoyant pine
are the entity IDs in the template correct?
hollow bramble
What does the template render as in the templates dev tool?
Try them one at a time
hollow bramble
It happens
orchid onyx
Thanks again.
orchid onyx
So here is a new "noob question":
I try to add a !include for binary_sensor and i point to a newly created file binary_sensor.yaml but i get an error.
Here is what i have in config: binary_sensor: !include binary_sensor.yaml
here is the error:
Invalid config for [binary_sensor]: required key not provided @ data['platform']. Got None. (See /config/configuration.yaml, line 13).
Where am I failing now ? 😦
orchid onyx
yes, i tryed also to remove that one but i cant compile the file then.. but somewhere there is the problem?
buoyant pine
what do you mean by "i cant compile the file then"?
orchid onyx
First part of "binary_sensor.yaml"
binary_sensor: - platform: template sensors: # Contact Sensor alarm_ytterdorr:
buoyant pine
right, remove binary_sensor: from the top
orchid onyx
I mean, I cant save the file without getting error. My HA is in swedish 😒
Sec i will try it
charred dagger
orchid onyx
Lol, works, I also removed - in front of - platform: template and thats why i could not save the file...
Like I said, noob. Sorry. Stil learning 🙂 thx alot, it Works now
silent barnBOT
chrome temple
- platform: template
sensors:
climate_hall:
friendly_name: 'Luftfuktighet'
...
Invalid config for [sensor.template]: expected a dictionary for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['climate_hall']. Got None expected a dictionary for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['device_class']. Got 'humidity' expected a dictionary for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['friendly_name']. Got 'Luftfuktighet' expected a dictionary for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['unit_of_measurement']. Got '%' expected a dictionary for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['value_template']. Got "{{ state_attr('climate.hall', 'current_humidity') }}". (See ?, line ?).
Ok got it now, it was the spaces infront of "friendly name"
Whats the correct name, not spaces but...?
Thx for help!
brisk temple
This condition template doesn't seem to be working, anybody have any ideas? It works in the dev tools template
value_template: "{{ trigger.from_state.state != 'unknown' }}"
maybe the .state is unneeded
i can never figure out when it is or isn't
inner mesa
The docs are the best way to remember 🙂
What do you mean by ‘not working’? trigger.from_state.state is ‘unknown’ in the action:?
There’s no way that’ll work in the template dev tool
brisk temple
I tested by doing a set, but it's not true test
inner mesa
What do you mean by ‘not working’?
trigger.from_state.stateis ‘unknown’ in theaction:?
brisk temple
it's a condition in the trigger
inner mesa
Thanks, that’s not trivial
brisk temple
And not everytime
inner mesa
Read the docs that I posted above
That’s not your problem
What is your evidence that it’s not working?
brisk temple
It's going from unknown to the version and alerting me
inner mesa
I don't think that logic is correct
you want something like "if the from state is not unknown or unavailable and the newest version isn't the one you're running, alert"
right?
I don't think you really want to "or" all those together
one of those first two will let it go right though because they're mutually exclusive
or I guess they're not, but I don't think it's what you want either