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visual aspen May 12, 2020, 2:55 PM

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But thanks for the script tip

silent barnBOT May 12, 2020, 5:06 PM

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arctic sorrel May 12, 2020, 5:12 PM

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~codewall @mental cedar

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arctic sorrel May 12, 2020, 5:12 PM

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I'd use

{{ state_attr('camera.portailwebcam','faces') }}
``` etc

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Overall looks about right, though sensor.a is an odd choice 😉

thorny snow May 12, 2020, 5:15 PM

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hello guys... I need a little bit of help. I want to create e new entity with a template out of "weather.beta" temperature attribute

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"{{ states.weather.beta.temperature.state|round }}" -> does not work. what I am missing here?

arctic sorrel May 12, 2020, 5:16 PM

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{{ state_attr('weather.beta','temperature')|round }}

silent barnBOT May 12, 2020, 5:16 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/automation/templating/
https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/

arctic sorrel May 12, 2020, 5:16 PM

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See the docs 😉

thorny snow May 12, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I am, my code is based on that page

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`sensor:

platform: template
sensors:
weather_current_temp:
value_template: "{{ states.weather.beta.temperature.state|round }}"`

arctic sorrel May 12, 2020, 5:19 PM

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See what I posted - that's not based on that page 😉

thorny snow May 12, 2020, 5:19 PM

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ty Tinkerer, I will try it right now

arctic sorrel May 12, 2020, 5:19 PM

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You're trying to get an attribute not a state

thorny snow May 12, 2020, 5:20 PM

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I am a newcomer 🙂

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ty @arctic sorrel it works 😄

mental cedar May 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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@arctic sorrel i'm making progress between state and attribute ... Thanks to u

The states works but not the attributes yet. And i'm wondering faces is a lit how to display a list ?

sensors:
a:
value_template: '{{ state_attr(camera.portailwebcam,faces) }}'
friendly_name: Faces
b:
value_template: '{{ state_attr(camera.portailwebcam,total_faces) }}'
friendly_name: Faces2
c:
value_template: '{{ states.camera.portailwebcam.last_changed }}'
friendly_name: Faces3

silent barnBOT May 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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arctic sorrel May 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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That's... not what I showed

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{{ state_attr('camera.portailwebcam','faces') }}
``` Those `'` are quite important 😉

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Test your templates in devtools -> Templates

spark mantle May 12, 2020, 6:05 PM

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losing my mind - in dev tools > templates this shows false {{ is_state('sensor.iphone_room', 'raspberrypi') or is_state('sensor.iphone_room', 'bedroom') or is_state('sensor.iphone_room', 'garage') or is_state('sensor.iphone_room', 'guestroom')}}

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but when used as a binary_sensor it shows as 'on' (the state of iphone_room = unavailable)

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am i missing something really obvious? been trying to solve this way too long lol

mental cedar May 12, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Thanks i will check later with the states 🙂

dreamy sinew May 12, 2020, 6:08 PM

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might just need to add another check for unav

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or not is_state('sensor.iphone_room', 'unavailable')

spark mantle May 12, 2020, 6:09 PM

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ah ok - i would use 'not' but its also 'not_home' that is important too

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(actually had not_home until i realised unavailable was incorrectly reporting the sensor as on)

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should i add for both?

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just not sure why it works correctly in the dev tools template but not here

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hmmm - something isnt quite right - or not is_state('sensor.iphone_room', 'unavailable') is not working - giving the same result as without the not or is_state('sensor.iphone_room', 'unavailable')

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or not ( is_state('sensor.iphone_room', 'unavailable') or is_state('sensor.iphone_room', 'not_home')) seems to work

buoyant pine May 12, 2020, 6:25 PM

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this doesn't solve the problem, but one tip... you can just do this:

{{ states('sensor.iphone_room') in ['raspberrypi', 'bedroom', 'garage', 'guestroom'] }}

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add more items to the list as needed

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also note that the template tool doesn't update in real time. you'll need to type a space or whatever for it to refresh @spark mantle

spark mantle May 12, 2020, 6:30 PM

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awesome - didnt know that either 🙂 epic

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and i was updating, but jsut didnt like my template 😦 thanks for the info @buoyant pine & @dreamy sinew appreciate the help

worn cloud May 13, 2020, 1:56 AM

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hey guys i have this template

- platform: template
  sensors:
    wandownload:
      friendly_name: "WAN Download"
      value_template: "{{ '%.2f'%(state_attr('binary_sensor.edgeos_interface_eth5', 'MBytes/ps (Received)') * 8 | float) }}"  
      unit_of_measurement: Mbps

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but on HA startup i get an error in the logs

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 1:57 AM

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what's the error?

worn cloud May 13, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Logger: homeassistant.helpers.entity
Source: helpers/template.py:222
First occurred: 9:57:29 PM (4 occurrences)
Last logged: 9:57:33 PM

Update for sensor.wandownload fails
Update for sensor.wanupload fails

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sorry was grabbing it from the logs

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 1:58 AM

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definitely going to have an order of operations problem

worn cloud May 13, 2020, 1:58 AM

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binary_sensor.edgeos_interface_eth5 is coming from an edgeOS intergration

mighty ledge May 13, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Yup, put the float on the states method not the number 8

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 1:58 AM

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try it in devtools > templates

worn cloud May 13, 2020, 1:59 AM

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thanks guys! the template it self is outputting the correct value

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i will change the order of float and reboot now

mighty ledge May 13, 2020, 2:00 AM

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You’re probably getting a startup error. Putting the float on the method would remove startup errors when the result is nonnumeric

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 2:01 AM

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lol 2 4char names that start with p and are both green. that's not going to get confusing at all 😛

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though i guess we already had that when we were both blue

mighty ledge May 13, 2020, 2:02 AM

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This whole thing is overwhelming

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I could change my name to petr to really throw you off 🤣

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 2:03 AM

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heh

worn cloud May 13, 2020, 2:04 AM

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i removed float and i still get this error on startup

silent barnBOT May 13, 2020, 2:04 AM

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@worn cloud posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sWpkR6Rmch/

worn cloud May 13, 2020, 2:05 AM

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value_template: "{{ '%.2f'%(state_attr('binary_sensor.edgeos_interface_eth5', 'MBytes/ps (Received)') * 8 ) }}"

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 2:05 AM

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worn cloud May 13, 2020, 2:07 AM

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mindblown

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thank you!

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 5:43 AM

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so if I have a rest sensor resource set to http://my-ip/cgi-bin/configManager.cgi?action=getConfig&name=CallInfo and it dumps a return as table.CallInfo.CallID=7 wouldn't my value template not be value_json.table.CallInfo.CallID?

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 5:44 AM

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what's the actual response?

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 5:44 AM

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table.CallInfo.CallID=7

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 5:44 AM

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just like that?

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 5:44 AM

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yea

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 5:44 AM

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so it wouldn't be json

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 5:44 AM

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i thought the rest converted it

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 5:45 AM

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only if the response header is content_type: Application/JSON

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otherwise you'll get .text

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so you probably want {{value.split('=')[-1]}}

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 5:48 AM

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hmm

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so if the sensor shows nothing not even Unknown that means brokerd? lol

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 5:49 AM

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hm

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try just {{value}}

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 5:51 AM

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same, just blank

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 5:51 AM

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ok, i think the call isn't working

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 5:53 AM

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if I use {{ value_json }} it returns Unknown but yea anything else is just blank

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 5:57 AM

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i wonder if there's a header you can set

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do you know how to use python requests?

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 6:00 AM

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I wonder if the doorbell banned my ha ip lol

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 6:02 AM

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hah

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 6:02 AM

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this is what it looks like in the dump

   "CallInfo" : {
      "CallID" : "7"

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 6:03 AM

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that's more like it

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can you pastebin the full thing?

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 6:03 AM

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but when i access it through the api url it returns what i posted above

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the full dump? there is nothing higher than CalllInfo

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 6:05 AM

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should be more {} in there. i just want to make sure

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 6:06 AM

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if I access http://my-ip/cgi-bin/configManager.cgi?action=getConfig&name=CallInfo or even http://my-ip/cgi-bin/configManager.cgi?action=getConfig&name=CallInfo.CallID they both return the same thing

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 6:06 AM

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just the string?

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hmm, probably because this is cgi and not rest

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 6:08 AM

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that probably means i'm up s creek without a paddle?

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 6:10 AM

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might just have to use a shell command

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how good are you with curl? 😛

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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lol not very but my google fu is pretty strong haha

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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hmm, is there a shell sensor? 😦

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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a ha!

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got it

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ok so i got results, had to change my authentication type to digest lol

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so now i get table.CallInfo.CallID=7 as a result from '{{value}}'

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so would i now go back to value_json.table.CallInfo.CallID?

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nope that isn't correct lol

candid valve May 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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is that even json

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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nope it isn't json

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do the split thing i did

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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i did and that was the correct way. it works I get 7 now as the result

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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nice!

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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my next question is

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so that 7 increases by 1 everytime the button is pushed. what would be the best way to template a binary sensor off this rest sensor to switch from on/off when it goes up by 1?

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so the next time someone rings my bell it will be 8

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then 9 and so forth

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 6:28 AM

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probably need to poll it and then do an automation on when it increases

candid valve May 13, 2020, 6:28 AM

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doesn't sound like a binary sensor thing
more like reacting to the state changes and setting an input_datetime, calling an event, or just immediately reacting to it in the action:s

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 6:29 AM

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well binary would give me a history i can follow easier

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 6:29 AM

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could have an automation trigger an input bool

candid valve May 13, 2020, 6:30 AM

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make a binary sensor whose value is true if it's been less than 30 seconds since the button was pressed

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"30 seconds since the button was pressed" ~= (now - input_datetime).total_seconds() < 30 seconds
(this persists through restarts which is something I care a lot about but you can probably eliminate the input_datetime by using a buffered template binary sensor that therein has an off delay)

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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let me see what i can cobble together here lol

little gale May 13, 2020, 6:39 AM

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What's the correct way to add multiple entities to turn_on?
Getting duplicate key warnings here:

        turn_on:
          - service: switch.turn_on
            entity_id: switch.internal_mount_1tb
            entity_id: switch.internal_mount_1tb2
            entity_id: switch.internal_mount_1tb3
            entity_id: switch.internal_mount_4tb
            entity_id: switch.internal_mount_merged

candid valve May 13, 2020, 6:39 AM

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entity_id:
  - switch.1
  - switch.2
  - switch.3
  ...

bitter atlas May 13, 2020, 7:16 AM

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dangit the woman is asleep i cannot test this!

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 7:19 AM

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XD

fringe leaf May 13, 2020, 9:26 AM

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The RSSI show "-62"... Why I don't get the "fair" in this Template?..

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{% if (states.sensor.shelly_shem_d3b358_rssi.state) | float > -50 %}
  Excellent
{% elif (states.sensor.shelly_shem_d3b358_rssi.state) | float < -50 and
        (states.sensor.shelly_shem_d3b358_rssi.state) | float > -60 %}
  fair
{% endif %}

arctic sorrel May 13, 2020, 9:27 AM

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Because it's > -60

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And you have no else

fringe leaf May 13, 2020, 9:27 AM

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Yeah I know about the "else".. Want to make a few more elif..

arctic sorrel May 13, 2020, 9:28 AM

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Yeah, but -62 is less than -60

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So, clearly it's not "fair"

fringe leaf May 13, 2020, 9:49 AM

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Right as always... So sleepy.. the minus got me totally confused.. Thanks!

analog plover May 13, 2020, 11:26 AM

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Hello. I have an MQTT sensor which sends HA some float values, this works fine. When I try to use the "statistics"-module on this sensor the front end crashes and the log says "Unable to serialize to JSON: Out of range float values are not JSON compliant"... any idea what might be going on or how I can do some work around?

jagged obsidian May 13, 2020, 11:27 AM

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how did you defined the sensor in yaml?

analog plover May 13, 2020, 11:27 AM

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The statistics one or the mqtt-one?

jagged obsidian May 13, 2020, 11:27 AM

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mqtt first

analog plover May 13, 2020, 11:28 AM

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platform: mqtt
name: "The box"
state_topic: "sensor/temperature"
unit_of_measurement: "°C"

jagged obsidian May 13, 2020, 11:29 AM

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you might have to take the value of the topic and transform it into float {{ value_json | float }} or maybe | int

analog plover May 13, 2020, 11:31 AM

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Would I do that by making some template sensor which looks at the mqtt sensor, and then using statistics on that new sensor instead? I'm not too familiar with programming hehe, but I can google

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... and thanks for the tip by the way. 🙂

jagged obsidian May 13, 2020, 11:41 AM

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just add a state value in the mqtt sensor to import the temperature properly

analog plover May 13, 2020, 11:51 AM

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Ah, I think I understand. Using this "value_template" function for MQTT?

warped hornet May 13, 2020, 11:52 AM

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How do you query last time a switch as in 'on' state?

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would be nice with states.switch.<id>.last_on or somthing similar

jagged obsidian May 13, 2020, 11:56 AM

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like {{ as_timestamp(now()) - as_timestamp(states(switch.sensor.garage_door_control.last_updated)) < 10 }}

silent barnBOT May 13, 2020, 2:56 PM

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@fallen dagger posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jz6HGdMRmp/

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@fallen dagger posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2GhwFKNd7y/

fallen dagger May 13, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Anyone got any experience with sending notafications to a discord channel?

Trying to send a notication when my 3D printer has finished with images of the print, but I'm unable to attach the pictures to the discord notification. I'm able to send images without the templated timestamp (for example just "test.jpg")
Here you can see the yaml:

- service: notify.discord
        data:
          message: >
            Print finished {{ now ().hour }}:{{ now ().minute }}, {{ now ().day }}.{{ now ().month }}.{{ now ().year }}
          target: ["710134391640162364"]
          data:
            images:
            - /config/www/captures/octoprint/octoprint_{{ now ().year }}_{{ now ().month }}_{{ now ().day }}_{{ now ().hour }}_{{ now ().minute }}_left.jpg

Using this kind of path works when I'm using the mobile app notification

arctic sorrel May 13, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Yes, though see #rules 😉

buoyant pine May 13, 2020, 2:59 PM

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and you need to use data_template:

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 2:59 PM

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also rule 1 of templating

fallen dagger May 13, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Sorry😅 And thanks!

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 3:01 PM

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and {{ now().strftime('%H:%M, %d.%m.%Y') }}

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-> 11:03, 13.05.2020

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re-arrange that for your 2nd one

fallen dagger May 13, 2020, 3:05 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/tJFBRRm

Works perfect!

dreamy sinew May 13, 2020, 3:06 PM

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nice!

analog plover May 13, 2020, 5:28 PM

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value_json, simply refer to "the value that is sent by this sensor"?

mighty ledge May 13, 2020, 6:27 PM

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value_json is the json response from whatever integration you are using

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it's not limited to a domain

small rock May 14, 2020, 5:56 PM

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I'm not seeing it: voluptuous.error.MultipleInvalid: extra keys not allowed @ data['value']

    - service: input_select.select_option
      data_template: 
        entity_id: input_select.source_bureau
        value: >-
          {% if state_attr('media_player.snapcast_client_xgin', 'source').startswith('Spotify') %}
            Spotify
          {% elif state_attr('media_player.snapcast_client_xgin', 'source') == 'Mopidy' %}
            Radio
          {% else %}
            Mute
          {% endif %}

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oh great

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value should be option

small rock May 15, 2020, 8:40 AM

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Can I do it in a oneliner like this:

{{ if (states('input_number.volume_bureau') | float) > 0 else 1  }}

candid valve May 15, 2020, 8:45 AM

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where's the other value you want if the condition is met?

small rock May 15, 2020, 9:00 AM

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it should be the states value

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I have done it in a multi line

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it's ok now

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Need some help on this:

silent barnBOT May 15, 2020, 9:04 AM

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@small rock posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Cn6FqmyRb3/

small rock May 15, 2020, 9:06 AM

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Invalid data for call_service at pos 1: expected float for dictionary value @ data['value']

silent barnBOT May 15, 2020, 9:10 AM

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arctic sorrel May 15, 2020, 9:11 AM

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What do you get if you paste it into Templates?

small rock May 15, 2020, 9:18 AM

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@arctic sorrel it's a different piece of template that goes wrong

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Found it out, it happens when the template results nothing

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So I have build a condition above it to caputure it

candid valve May 15, 2020, 9:26 AM

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input_select expects option, not value, by the way

small rock May 15, 2020, 10:57 AM

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Thanks

arctic sorrel May 15, 2020, 5:26 PM

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{{ dict((states|selectattr('entity_id', 'in', state_attr('group.my_lights', 'entity_id'))|list)|groupby('state'))['on']|map(attribute='name')|list|join(', ') }}
``` That lists the members of `group.my_lights` that are in the state of `on`

    {{ dict(states|selectattr('entity_id', 'in', state_attr('group.my_exterior_doors', 'entity_id')|list)|groupby('state'))['on']|length }}

``` That returns the number of members in group.my_exterior_doors that are on @true otter

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There's a lot of other things, but you need to be clear about your goal

silent barnBOT May 15, 2020, 5:26 PM

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The XY problem is asking about your attempted solution rather than your actual problem. This leads to enormous amounts of wasted time and energy, both on the part of people asking for help, and on the part of those providing help.
The problem occurs when people get stuck on what they believe is the solution and are unable to step back and explain the issue in full.

true otter May 15, 2020, 5:46 PM

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@arctic sorrel So the problem is my alarm will arm even if a entity is in the incorrect state. I don't want the alarm to change state if a sensor is in the incorrect state. does this make sense?

arctic sorrel May 15, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Right, so ... write an automation to detect that and deal with it 🤷

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Personally I'd prefer an alarm that still worked on everything else, rather than one that refused to arm because a sensor was stuck

lethal tapir May 15, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Hey how can i get this to be an mqtt gps is there a way to use a template? # this is what i get of the mqtt payload
{latitude=50.101916;longitude=10.110403}

dreamy sinew May 15, 2020, 7:30 PM

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it returns like that? That would be odd

nocturne kiln May 15, 2020, 7:32 PM

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{{ states.sensor.consumption_96 }} gives <template state sensor.consumption_96=6.56; on=True, power=None, unit_of_measurement=kWh, friendly_name=Consumption 96 @ 2020-05-15T21:27:35.193686+02:00>. But how do I get only the value '6.56' ? 😮

lethal tapir May 15, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Sorry what do you mean its how the code printout https://github.com/JLFN/ESP32-MQTT-GPS/blob/master/publish_gps.ino

dreamy sinew May 15, 2020, 7:34 PM

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@nocturne kiln {{ states('sensor.consumption_96') }}

lethal tapir May 15, 2020, 7:34 PM

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@dreamy sinew i also tried this code for esp8266 but owntrack mqtt its not showing https://github.com/tubalainen/esp8266_gps_tracker_home_assistant/blob/master/gpstracker.ino

dreamy sinew May 15, 2020, 7:34 PM

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so that response is not a valid json payload. it'll make it obnoxious to work with

lethal tapir May 15, 2020, 7:35 PM

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korrekt its not json

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phnx is there a way to to this easy with json ? ```if (gps.location.isValid()) {
double latitude = (gps.location.lat());
double longitude = (gps.location.lng());

Serial.println("********** Publish MQTT data");
char mqtt_payload[50] = "";
snprintf (mqtt_payload, 50, "{latitude=%lf;longitude=%lf}", latitude, longitude);
Serial.print("Publish message: ");
Serial.println(mqtt_payload);
client.publish(pubTopic, mqtt_payload);
Serial.println("> MQTT data published");```

nocturne kiln May 15, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Thanks @dreamy sinew, I feel dumb now. 😛

dreamy sinew May 15, 2020, 7:37 PM

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if you return whatever is there as json, you can easily access it in a template

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like that, you're going to have to do a bunch of dumb stuff to make it work

edgy gorge May 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Does anyone know how to get rid of a 0 in a custom time sensor? I've been searching the forums and can't find anything. I've gotten a template for converting 24h time to 12h time, but my times are formatted as 02:50PM vs 2:50PM

marble sun May 15, 2020, 9:59 PM

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what's your current template?

edgy gorge May 15, 2020, 10:57 PM

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platform: template
sensors:
time_12h:
icon_template: mdi:clock
friendly_name_template: >
{% set time = states('sensor.time') %}
{% set hour = time[:2]|int %}
{{ '{:02d}:{}'.format(hour if hour == 12 else hour % 12, time[3:5]) }}
value_template: whocares
attribute_templates:
am_pm: >
{% set time = states('sensor.time') %}
{% set hour = time[:2]|int %}
{{ 'PM' if hour>11 else 'AM' }}

candid valve May 15, 2020, 10:58 PM

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strptime it then take the .hour or whatever attribute

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those manipulations you're doing would all be easy with datetime operations e.x. am_pm using time_parsed_as_a_datetime.strftime("%p") to get AM or PM

edgy gorge May 15, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Is this something I'd put in my current template or a new one?

candid valve May 15, 2020, 11:06 PM

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could you please show me an example of what sensor.time looks like

marble sun May 15, 2020, 11:08 PM

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take the 0 out of {:02d}

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or the 02 for that matter

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it means "2-wide, 0-prefixed to fill"

edgy gorge May 15, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Gotcha

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Lets see

valid silo May 16, 2020, 2:14 AM

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does anyone know if there's a way to use a value template with 'unit_of_measure'? I'm basically trying to get HA to not display the unit of measure with a certain value.

mighty ledge May 16, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Your graphing is tied to unit of measure, if you adjust the units, you'll screw up your history. The units for graphing are not dynamic.

valid silo May 16, 2020, 2:26 AM

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not trying to graph but you're saying that holds true regardless? makes sense but just confirming that's true in an entities card as well?

solid storm May 16, 2020, 11:57 AM

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I have made a template sensor to display minutes until my next Alexa timer expires (code: https://hastebin.com/salehusape.cs). The sensor does not update automatically (0.81 breaking change?). What I should do to update the sensor each minute?

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For example, after I set a 60 minute timer, the sensor state will remain at 59 minutes, even when time passes

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Is using "entity_id: sensor.time" in the template sensor a good workaround for the issue?

mighty ledge May 16, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Yes, that's the point of the entity_id field. To update the sensor. If you want to update it minutely, use sensor.time.

graceful needle May 16, 2020, 1:46 PM

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has anyone had experience with Cover templates?

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Is it possible to invert "position_template" so 0 is open and 100 is closed?

mighty ledge May 16, 2020, 1:59 PM

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just invert the value being used in position template

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position_template: "{{ 100 - whatever_value_is_inverted }}"

graceful needle May 16, 2020, 2:25 PM

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position_template: "{{ 100 - states('sensor.bedroom_curtain_position') }}"

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is this supposed to work?

buoyant pine May 16, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Add | int to the end (right before }}") @graceful needle

graceful needle May 16, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Ahh cheers!

fair vessel May 16, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Hi there can anyone help me add a date with uk formating please

arctic sorrel May 16, 2020, 8:25 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template

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Do you already have the date/time/whatever in an existing entity?

fair vessel May 16, 2020, 8:27 PM

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have this - platform: time_date
display_options:
- 'time'
- 'date'
- 'date_time'
- 'date_time_iso'
- 'time_date'
- 'time_utc'
- 'beat'

arctic sorrel May 16, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Ok, and what are you trying to achieve?

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Just a date, a date and time, a...?

fair vessel May 16, 2020, 8:30 PM

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have a basic clock with date at the bottom and its currently showing yyyy/mm/dd

arctic sorrel May 16, 2020, 8:30 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#time for all your date/time formatting needs

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{{ now().year }}/{{ now().month }}/{{now().day}}``` for a quick hack

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{{ as_timestamp(now())|timestamp_custom("%Y/%m/%d") }}``` for something closer to what you're after

fair vessel May 16, 2020, 8:34 PM

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thank the problem is i dont really understand how to enter it in the config

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I've tried things like ```

platform: template
sensors:
simple_time_date:
friendly_name: "Simple Time Date"
value_template: "{{ now().strftime('%H:%M %d/%m') }}"

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arctic sorrel May 16, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Back ticks - next to 1️⃣

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Things is, if you just want a date, you've got it

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{{ states('sensor.date') }}```

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YYYY-mm-dd

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Just displaying sensor.date will give you that

silent barnBOT May 16, 2020, 8:38 PM

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@fair vessel posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wmTNyWGfWR/

arctic sorrel May 16, 2020, 8:38 PM

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~codewall @fair vessel

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fair vessel May 16, 2020, 8:38 PM

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sorry

arctic sorrel May 16, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Is all you're after turning - into /?

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{{ states('sensor.date')|replace("-", "/") }}

fair vessel May 16, 2020, 8:39 PM

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no currently its show as 2020/05/16, i need it to be 16/5/2020

arctic sorrel May 16, 2020, 8:40 PM

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{{ as_timestamp(strptime(states('sensor.date_time'), "%Y-%m-%d, %H:%M"))|timestamp_custom("%d/%m/%Y") }}

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You can test all this in devtools -> Templates

fair vessel May 16, 2020, 8:41 PM

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thank you. so did i need to do anything in the config? or just somehow use this in the card for the clock

arctic sorrel May 16, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Put that in a template sensor

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- platform: template
    sensors:
    simple_time_date:
      friendly_name: "Simple Time Date"
      value_template: >
        {{ as_timestamp(strptime(states('sensor.date_time'), "%Y-%m-%d, %H:%M"))|timestamp_custom("%d/%m/%Y") }}

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Pfft, it's unhappy I didn't open with sensor:

fair vessel May 16, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Invalid config for [sensor.template]: expected dictionary for dictionary value @ data['sensors']. Got None
extra keys not allowed @ data['simple_time_date']. Got OrderedDict([('friendly_name', 'Simple Time Date'), ('value_template', '{{ as_timestamp(strptime(states('sensor.date_time'), "%Y-%m-%d, %H:%M"))|timestamp_custom("%d/%m/%Y") }}\n')]). (See ?, line ?).

arctic sorrel May 16, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Formatting may be off, I copy/pasted your blob

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sensor:
- platform: template
  sensors:
    simple_time_date:
      friendly_name: "Simple Time Date"
      value_template: >
        {{ as_timestamp(strptime(states('sensor.date_time'), "%Y-%m-%d, %H:%M"))|timestamp_custom("%d/%m/%Y") }}

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There we go, that's formatted correctly, just don't include the sensor: line

fair vessel May 16, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Thank you, i've not managed to get the config checker to tell me its okay. i never realised that the indentations made so much of a difference as i've had the same code in it about 6 times already

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I am correct in thinking if i now use "Simple Time Date" it will display in that format?

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Thank you again Tinkerer i've just restarted HA and its now working perfectly

arctic sorrel May 16, 2020, 8:54 PM

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No worries

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The sensor is a string, so the format is fixed

long sequoia May 16, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Hi, I am trying to figure out how to implement something like this https://imgur.com/a/aAGUHY4 into my home assistant setup. I got the toggle switch setup and working by using an input boolean using this code https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/R2B3RRv64y/

I can't figure out how to get the text showing the state of the switch. I could get it to show "on/off" using a binary sensor, however, I couldn't get it to show "bins are outside/bins are inside". Would anyone be able to help me?

For reference this is my binary sensor code: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/b3sbC82jkm/

arctic sorrel May 16, 2020, 8:56 PM

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value_template: >-
  {%- if is_state('input_boolean.bin_status','on') -%}
    Outside
  {%- else -%}
    Inside
  {%- endif -%}
``` (long form)

long sequoia May 16, 2020, 9:00 PM

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hmm strange. I put that in my config, and now the binary sensor is just stuck at "off" regardless of the switch position

arctic sorrel May 16, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Well, you add that to a template sensor 😉

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The binary sensor is only ever on/off

long sequoia May 16, 2020, 9:02 PM

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This is what it is looking like https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hbjMQHKXJ3/

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did I do something wrong there?

arctic sorrel May 16, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Yes

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/binary_sensor

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A binary sensor, by definition, is only on or off

long sequoia May 16, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Setting a template sensor is "- platform: template" right?

arctic sorrel May 16, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Under sensor:

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template

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Not https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/binary_sensor.template

long sequoia May 16, 2020, 9:06 PM

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ohh ok I see what you're saying now. imma fix that up

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Got it all working how I wanted it to. Thanks mate.

silent barnBOT May 17, 2020, 9:55 AM

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@outer reef posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2h7wcRrS5s/

thorny snow May 17, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Hello. Could your please point me section to a documentation or example how to make own template for my shutters? I have configured my shutter, which could be applied to all my shutters. Here is the config, just mqtt based 20 or so lines
https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bprJr3yGJ6/
so The idea is to have this snippet with variable, so I can just pass the device name , in this case
rollowaschkueche
to avoid copy paste this code

bitter atlas May 17, 2020, 6:40 PM

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I can't get this to trigger for some reason {{ as_timestamp(now()) - as_timestamp(states.binary_sensor.amcrest_camera_motion_detected.last_changed) == 10.0 }} I know the state changes by viewing it in the template editor but for whatever reason when tie this to a template sensor it does not fire 10 seconds after the entity's state changes

buoyant pine May 17, 2020, 6:46 PM

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@bitter atlas that template would only be evaluated when the binary sensor's state changes

bitter atlas May 17, 2020, 6:46 PM

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yea

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the binary in the template is seperate than the sensor

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I may havve found my problem aside from lack of sleep, checking something

buoyant pine May 17, 2020, 6:47 PM

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No like, that will always return False if used in a template trigger

bitter atlas May 17, 2020, 6:48 PM

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?

arctic sorrel May 17, 2020, 6:48 PM

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now() doesn't cause the trigger to be evaluated

buoyant pine May 17, 2020, 6:48 PM

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It only updates when the binary sensor's state changes

arctic sorrel May 17, 2020, 6:49 PM

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So, when the last_changed and now() are the same 😉

bitter atlas May 17, 2020, 6:51 PM

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I guess I don't follow. the binary being evaluated is a separate entity from the template sensor.

buoyant pine May 17, 2020, 6:51 PM

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I'm talking about the trigger

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Template triggers are only evaluated when the entities in the template change state

arctic sorrel May 17, 2020, 6:52 PM

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(this is, curiously, mentioned in the docs)

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The only entity in your trigger is binary_sensor.amcrest_camera_motion_detected

bitter atlas May 17, 2020, 6:52 PM

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when you assign the entity_id to an entity where the state does change, it should work?

buoyant pine May 17, 2020, 6:53 PM

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If that's in a template sensor it would also only update when the binary sensor's state changes

arctic sorrel May 17, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Why not just use https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/time_date in the comparison?

bitter atlas May 17, 2020, 6:55 PM

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    front_door_knock:
      friendly_name: Door Knock
      entity_id: binary_sensor.front_doorbell_motion
      value_template: >
        {% if (as_timestamp(now()) - as_timestamp(states.binary_sensor.front_doorbell_motion.last_changed) === 10.0) %}
          on
        {% else %}
          off
        {% endif %}

arctic sorrel May 17, 2020, 6:56 PM

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That also would only be valid exactly 10 seconds later

bitter atlas May 17, 2020, 6:56 PM

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yea

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I want it to only be vaild at 10 seconds

buoyant pine May 17, 2020, 6:57 PM

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That will always be off

arctic sorrel May 17, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Then, move to a time and date sensor instead of now

bitter atlas May 17, 2020, 7:14 PM

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yea none of this likes me lol

arctic sorrel May 17, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Set up https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/time_date

bitter atlas May 17, 2020, 7:16 PM

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apparently you can't use sensor.time in the template editor

arctic sorrel May 17, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Well, if it exists, you can use it

bitter atlas May 17, 2020, 7:18 PM

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I have to be doing something wrong and missing something, it only return None

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i'll mess with it after I've had some sleep lol

arctic sorrel May 17, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Does it exist?

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Have you actually checked that?

bitter atlas May 17, 2020, 7:19 PM

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yea

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I have it set up

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So, when the last_changed and now() are the same 😉
@arctic sorrel haha this just clicked for me, makes perfect sense.

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way too tired to be doing this lol

arctic sorrel May 17, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Time for a nap 😉

bitter atlas May 17, 2020, 7:27 PM

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also just realized i can use an automation to do what the sensor was suppose to do. derp. @buoyant pine all your fault.

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also anyone else notice there is like 10 Ted's in this server

bitter atlas May 17, 2020, 7:44 PM

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lol 5 second automation did exactly what I wanted the sensor to do

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still going to figure out that sensor.time thing tho later cause yea that was not working in the template editor

arctic sorrel May 17, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Likely a PEBCAK

bitter atlas May 17, 2020, 7:45 PM

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well i can show the state of it, just couldn't use it to compare time

arctic sorrel May 17, 2020, 7:46 PM

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I use them in various places...

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So, something wrong with your template

bitter atlas May 17, 2020, 7:48 PM

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i have no doubt it was user error with that lol

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Is it possible to reference the last changed/last updated value for a person using a template?

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 1:09 AM

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What the hell timezone is {{ states.person.xxx.last_changed }} stored in? Doesn't look like UTC, and definitely not local.

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 1:41 AM

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epoc seconds I thought

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 1:42 AM

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It's a datetime object, it just doesn't seem to line up with either local or UTC. Have tried | timestamp_local and it returns the same value, so it seems to think that it's in local timestamp, but the person state has definitely changed since the last_changed state attribute.

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 1:46 AM

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looks local to me

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strange... how do you view those hidden attributes like last_changed?

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states page doesn't show them

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No looks UTC.. I just creatd a person and it's +5 for me, which is UTC @hexed galleon

thick barn May 18, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Hi all, trying to set up a template that will keep a 3d printer enclosure within a certain temperature, i have a temperature sensor in the enclosure called sensor.garage_temperature as well as a heat lamp on a switched called switch.photon_enclosure_heat_lamp

I would like to keep the temperature between 22 and 26 degrees, turning the heat lamp on and off as required

i am i on the right track?

if sensor.garage_temperature < 22
switch.photon_enclosure_heat_lamp turn on
elif sensor.garage_temperature > 26
switch.photon_enclosure_heat_lamp turn off

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 1:57 AM

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@thorny snow: you access the states through the state object which I found in this thread: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/last-updated-state-and-last-changed-in-lovelave/101701/2

thick barn May 18, 2020, 1:57 AM

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also, can a template be a entity? I woul;d like a button so i can enable and disable the entity

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 1:57 AM

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It says in there that it should be UTC, but the last_changed for my person entity is definitely not UTC-accurate.

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It's claiming 2020-05-18 00:06:30.132245+00:00 as the last changed, which would be in the future

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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what's your time zone? Some people are in the future

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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UTC+10

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Well, not in the future any more, but the last change was definitely before 10:06am local.

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 2:01 AM

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silly questionm, but how are you sure it didn't change?

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Unless it's considering any attribute for the last_changed, rather than just the state.

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 2:01 AM

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are what are you using to track the person?

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 2:01 AM

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As my GPS might have changed at 10:06am.

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 2:01 AM

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yeah, I am saying that's possible it dropped out for a sec

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Not according to the state history. Solid state since 8:08.

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 2:03 AM

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that litle graph????? a split second couldn't show up on that!

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 2:04 AM

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If you hover over it, it shows timestamps between states. For the state to change, the graph would have had to change.

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Guess I'll move around a bit at lunch and try and confirm if a change in GPS coords will trigger a last_changed or not. Logically it shouldn't, because the docs say its "Time the state changed. This is not updated when there are only updated attributes."

silent barnBOT May 18, 2020, 2:14 AM

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@thick barn posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Hb5c9m8rZB/

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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@thick barn why don't you do this in the automation editor? It sounds easy to accomplish

thick barn May 18, 2020, 2:16 AM

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they suggested a template

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 2:17 AM

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this may be way over blown, but have you though of an mqtt hvac? https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/climate.mqtt/

thick barn May 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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I haven't look at that, i need the ability to turn the automation on and off with a button on the dashboard

it seems like i can do this in the automations part, i'm just unsure of how to combine my two automations into one. It seems like I need a template, and i need to put that in as a automation?

It seems like this might work?

{% if states('sensor.garage_temperature') | float < 22 %}
switch.turn_on
{% elif states('sensor.garage_temperature') | float > 26 %}
switch.turn_off
{% endif %}
entity_id: switch.photon_enclosure_heat_lamp

I'm just unsure of how or where to put it in automations

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 2:31 AM

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@thick barn Make 2 automations: https://pastebin.com/aGyHSskB

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change names of course

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and then make a binary_input and use it as a condition for those to work

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 2:35 AM

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That's one of the reasons I avoided using YAML automations to start with. Decided to go straight for something a bit more flexible/re-usable with AppDaemon.

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 2:36 AM

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I like the granularity and the specificity of the built in automations. for intelligence, you need a different tool

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this is simple enough for if/then

thick barn May 18, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Hey @thorny snow, thanks for that, I'll see if I am able to do it
I'm not quite sure how to make automations with just text, so far I've used the automations tool built into hass

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 3:35 AM

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that's what I did, just to make sure you could.

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I couldn't use your real entities though

thick barn May 18, 2020, 4:02 AM

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sorry for the dumb questions, where do you put the text version of the automation?

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 4:03 AM

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automations.yaml by default

thick barn May 18, 2020, 4:08 AM

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thanks @buoyant pine, sorry for all the dumb questions, I'm still just trying to learn how to do all of this, I'll change the names of the entities in the above text file, and put it in my automations.yaml file
not quite sure on the binary_input and use it as a condition though...

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looks like the automations I made with the wizard were added into the yaml file
https://imgur.com/a/mrAvzL6

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 4:10 AM

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yes

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 4:11 AM

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I think stolid means "input_boolean"

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 4:11 AM

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If you edit manually, make sure you reload autos in config

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I did mean bool

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 4:11 AM

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But I'm also not sure what the purpose of that is

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 4:11 AM

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he wants a button on his dashboardthat can turn them both off

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I know you can turn each off though

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enable/disable

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 4:12 AM

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This can be done in one automation with templating which I think he was trying to do

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 4:12 AM

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there's usually more than one way to do it, and I assure you, mine is the dumbest

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Lol I'm not saying that

thick barn May 18, 2020, 4:12 AM

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yeah, I was trying to do it in one automation, so I can turn both of them off at once
if there is a way to turn them both off with a single button i would be stoked!

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 4:13 AM

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I know.. I am.. I don't know how to get those templates right yet

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 4:13 AM

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With one automation you could just turn the automation on and off without making a boolean

thick barn May 18, 2020, 4:16 AM

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yeah i don't mind which way, im just happy to learn (even if i have to be spoon fed a bit)

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Well, I try to make it work, then make it pretty

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 4:16 AM

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here's an example of one automation with templating that'll do what you want: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MxDM2W3phf/

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you had the right idea with your template, i just adapted it to a one-liner

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making a minor correction, hang on

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https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h5sxRJBQnd/ @thick barn

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Really confused as to how the HA state machine handles the last_changed state object field. What constitutes a "change" for the purposes of the state machine? My person entity state has "changed" significantly more frequently than my actual state has, so not sure what's registering as a change.

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 4:20 AM

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@hexed galleon updated and changed kinda confused me too

candid valve May 18, 2020, 4:21 AM

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attributes register changes too

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 4:21 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/state_object/

candid valve May 18, 2020, 4:21 AM

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in the case of person which device_tracker source is probably responsible

thick barn May 18, 2020, 4:22 AM

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oh awesome @buoyant pine
how do I go about using that? Do I make a new automation and set the trigger type as template?

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 4:22 AM

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that's a complete automation

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you can drop it in and reload automations at configuration > server controls

thick barn May 18, 2020, 4:22 AM

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oh awesome!

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 4:22 AM

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add whatever conditions you want, if any

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 4:24 AM

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@candid valve, @buoyant pine: According to the docs, attributes changing does not register a change to last_changed - "Time the state changed in the state machine in UTC time. This is not updated when there are only updated attributes."

candid valve May 18, 2020, 4:25 AM

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I apologize

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 4:25 AM

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damn I need pictures of these things to understand them

thick barn May 18, 2020, 4:25 AM

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thanks @buoyant pine, i added it to my automations.yaml, reloaded, and turned it on (i turned the old ones off), i'll wait until the temperature drops below 22 and see if it turns the heat lamp back on 🙂

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 4:26 AM

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That's why I'm so confused. I understand last_updated changing when any attribute changes, but the state itself hasn't changed, but is registering as having changed.

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 4:29 AM

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weird. not even something like home to unavailable to home?

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or unknown, etc

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 4:32 AM

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No, solidly "work" the whole time.

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 4:32 AM

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definitely weird then

hexed galleon May 18, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Unless the UI ignores state changes of a very small period.

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 4:33 AM

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@thick barn if you want to test it, go to developer tools > states, change the state of the garage temp sensor to something below 22 and see if the automation triggers

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the state will go back to the actual state the next time the sensor updates

pastel haven May 18, 2020, 8:11 AM

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hi all, good day,

Can somebody help me out with a basic template for converting time format please? I've got sensor.time_date that brings back format
YYYY-MM-DD, HH:MM

and want to display like
HH:MM - DDD, DD/MM

arctic sorrel May 18, 2020, 8:12 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/672223497736421388/711318184170356807

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See https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#time and https://docs.python.org/3/library/time.html#time.strftime for formatting options

pastel haven May 18, 2020, 8:13 AM

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uau, your fast, sppedy gonzales. Thx for this swift reaction.

arctic sorrel May 18, 2020, 8:13 AM

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No worries, it was easy because somebody asked yesterday 😉

pastel haven May 18, 2020, 8:38 AM

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n1, worked out of the box, here what I've implemented

sensor:
- platform: template
  sensors:
    data_e_hora:
      friendly_name: "Data e hora"
      value_template: >
        {{ as_timestamp(strptime(states('sensor.date_time'), "%Y-%m-%d, %H:%M"))|timestamp_custom("%Hh%M - %a, %d/%m") }}

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:30 PM

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good morning ladies and gents, need someone to help out with a sensor/template

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i have this as a "average" temp sensor example

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          friendly_name: "Downstairs Average Temp"
          device_class: 'temperature'
          unit_of_measurement: '°F'
          value_template: >-
            {% set sensors = [
                states('sensor.living_room_temperature')|float,
                states('sensor.office_temperature')|float,
                states('sensor.thermostat_temperature')|float
              ]
            %}
            {{(sensors|sum / sensors|length)|round(1)}}```

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im looking to build a sensor that shows the temperature spread between two entities

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 1:31 PM

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As in the difference between them?

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:31 PM

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so entity 1 is 80* and entity 2 is 100*

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the sensor we build would show 20*

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yeah

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 1:31 PM

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maybe sensors|max - sensors|min ?

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:32 PM

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not sure

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im very new to building them

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someone gave me the average sensor exampel and i can barely read/understand that

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looking for a carry here lol

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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If it's just two entities you can just do

{{ states('sensor.foo') | float - states('sensor.bar') | float }}

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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ok so in .conf it would look like this?

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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{{ sensors|max - sensors|min }}

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use the same set sensors block from your first one

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meaning copy-paste

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:34 PM

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ok yeah

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so the average temp sensor example i sent

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the bottom of it is the "argument"

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or whatever you wanna call it

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 1:35 PM

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{{}} is a "print statement"

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:35 PM

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the "rule"

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 1:36 PM

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And the set part is you creating a variable

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:36 PM

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alright i think im following

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what is %} {{(sensors|sum / sensors|length)|round(1)}}

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on the average example

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o thats the actual average math being done

buoyant pine May 18, 2020, 1:38 PM

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The sum filter adds the values of the sensors in the variable, the length filter counts how many items are in the variable (which is a list)

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:38 PM

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so thats where {{ sensors|max - sensors|min }}

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would go

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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i had to tweak that average one recently though

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(i think you're using mine) 😛

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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o was it you who shared it with me?

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haha

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what did you change

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feel free to share 😉 i havnt utilized it yet.

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but was about to today

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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{{(sensors|sum / sensors|reject("eq", 0.0)|list|length)|round(1)}}

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:40 PM

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thats what changed at the bottom

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 1:40 PM

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unav/unknown -> 0.0

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:40 PM

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very noobish when it comes to this stuff sorry

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 1:40 PM

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i had a battery die on one of my sensors and it tanked my averages

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:41 PM

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          friendly_name: "Downstairs Average Temp"
          device_class: 'temperature'
          unit_of_measurement: '°F'
          value_template: >-
            {% set sensors = [
                states('sensor.living_room_temperature')|float,
                states('sensor.office_temperature')|float,
                states('sensor.thermostat_temperature')|float
              ]
            %}
            {{(sensors|sum / sensors|reject("eq", 0.0)|list|length)|round(1)}}```

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so thats the new one

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 1:42 PM

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yup

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might be worth having that reject on the sensors|min bit on the new one too

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:44 PM

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          friendly_name: "Gun Safe Temperature Spread"
          device_class: 'temperature'
          unit_of_measurement: '°F'
          value_template: >-
            {% set sensors = [
                states('sensor.living_room_temperature')|float,
                states('sensor.office_temperature')|float,
                states('sensor.thermostat_temperature')|float
              ]
            %}
            {{ sensors|max - sensors|min }}```

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am i close there? lol

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 1:46 PM

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yup, looks good

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:47 PM

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adding your reject argument might not be needed here because im technically only gonna be looking at two different entities

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so it would just show an error or something i guess

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or i guess it would show the value of which ever one is working

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hmm

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 1:47 PM

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nah, it's just show the value of the sensor that is working

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:48 PM

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yeah weird lol

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 1:48 PM

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that's why i added it 😛

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the 0.0 isn't helpful

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but with the reject as is, it'll show 0.0

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so just something to think about

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maybe an if block if you care

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but its a numeric sensor so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:49 PM

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{{ sensors|max - sensors|min reject("eq", 0.0) }}

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that all i have to add?

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 1:53 PM

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sensors|reject("eq", 0.0)|list|min

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:53 PM

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ahh so close

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haha

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 1:54 PM

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you want to reject the bad item out of the list (and turn it back in to a list for reasons) before you do your "operation"

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:54 PM

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{{ sensors|max - sensors|reject("eq", 0.0)|list|min}}

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 1:54 PM

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in this case, the min in the other case, counting the number of items

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looks good

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:55 PM

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ahh ok

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thanks!

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if i were to add a second which would be humidity

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i would only change unit_of_measurement: '°F'

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to %

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 1:56 PM

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yep, should work

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 1:56 PM

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ok awesome

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 1:57 PM

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is there an easy way to test a value_template other than having to restart each time

arctic sorrel May 18, 2020, 1:58 PM

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devtools -> Templates

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 2:00 PM

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<template state sensor.json_vejr=[{"200000555":{"temperature":"12.8","humidity":"79"}},{"200005523":{"temperature":"13.3","humidity":"74"}},{"300000555":{"rain":0}},{"400000555":{"wind-speed":"0.5","wind-gust":"1.9","wind-direction":"WSW"}},{"100000555":{"barometer":"1008"}}]; friendly_name=JSON vejr @ 2020-05-18T15:57:04.458654+02:00>
No matter how i try, i can't seem to get the first temperature from that

arctic sorrel May 18, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Which one though 🤷

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 2:00 PM

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"temperature":"12.8"

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or any other for that matter 😉

arctic sorrel May 18, 2020, 2:01 PM

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{{ state('sensor.thing')[0].temperature }}
``` (probably)

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 2:01 PM

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not likely with that structure

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 2:02 PM

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how do i round to a a whole number

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          friendly_name: "Liberty Safe Temperature Spread"
          device_class: 'temperature'
          unit_of_measurement: '°F'
          value_template: >-
            {% set sensors = [
                states('sensor.liberty_gun_safe_temperature')|float,
                states('sensor.garage_temperature_1')|float
              ]
            %}
            {{ sensors|max - sensors|reject("eq", 0.0)|list|min}}```

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gave me 5.199999999999989

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lol

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 2:03 PM

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@frail hawk {% set value = [{"200000555":{"temperature":"12.8","humidity":"79"}},{"200005523":{"temperature":"13.3","humidity":"74"}},{"300000555":{"rain":0}},{"400000555":{"wind-speed":"0.5","wind-gust":"1.9","wind-direction":"WSW"}},{"100000555":{"barometer":"1008"}}] %} {{ value[0].get("200000555").temperature }}

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📎 unknown.png

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@topaz walrus oh, we forgot the round

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wrap that whole sucker in () and then add a round|(1)

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 2:05 PM

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@dreamy sinew nice... now i just need to get it from sensor.json_vejr instead

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 2:06 PM

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yup, drop that whole first section and replace value with states('sensor.json_vejr')

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Error rendering template: UndefinedError: 'str object' has no attribute 'get'

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 2:07 PM

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im a tard

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 2:07 PM

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value_json

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 2:07 PM

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cant get the template editor to accept

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{{(sensors|max - sensors|reject("eq", 0.0)|list|min) round|(1)}}

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 2:07 PM

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|round(1)

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 2:08 PM

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ahh nice!

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thanks again!

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alright even weirder question

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or have i ran out for today lol

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          friendly_name: "Liberty Safe Humidity Spread"
          device_class: 'temperature'
          unit_of_measurement: '%'
          value_template: >-
            {% set sensors = [
                states('sensor.liberty_gun_safe_humidity')|float,
                states('sensor.garage_humidity')|float
              ]
            %}
            {{(sensors|max - sensors|reject("eq", 0.0)|list|min)|round(1)}}```

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gives me 29.6

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how can i make that say -29.6

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 2:15 PM

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@dreamy sinew where do you want me to add that ?

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 2:16 PM

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flip the math?

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 2:16 PM

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basically

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 2:16 PM

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min - max

topaz walrus May 18, 2020, 2:17 PM

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smh..

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what is device_class

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i changed it to "humidity" and the math is wrong now lol

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disregard.. guess the sensor just updated.. and it changed by that much.

thorny snow May 18, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Hello, in light.template, can I mix service_template and services like this :
turn_on: - service_template: > {% if is_state('binary_sensor.dilightdressing', 'off') %} switch.turn_on {% else %} switch.turn_off {% endif %} entity_id: switch.dolightdressing - delay: milliseconds: 100 - service: switch.turn_off data: entity_id: switch.dolightdressing

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When I do this, I have strange behavior, config validator is turning around long long time

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 2:26 PM

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no

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 2:30 PM

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@dreamy sinew i can't seem to get it to work with the value_json .. where do you want me to add this to make it work

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 2:31 PM

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not something i've really dealt with ¯_(ツ)_/¯

mighty ledge May 18, 2020, 5:22 PM

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@frail hawk "{{ value_json[0]['200000555'].temperature }}"

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 6:06 PM

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@mighty ledge works on the - platform: rest but not on the - platform: template element

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 6:09 PM

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maybe {{ states('sensor.whatever')|tojson[0]...}}

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 6:11 PM

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will test 🙂

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 6:12 PM

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but the real answer might be to just do it in the rest sensor directly

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 6:15 PM

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yes but do i then have to do one rest per value i want to pick out of it ? thats what i was trying to avoid to make fewer queries

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{% set value = states('sensor.json_vejr')|from_json %}
{{ value }}
[{'200000555': {'temperature': '11.9', 'humidity': '84'}}, {'200005523': {'temperature': '11.6', 'humidity': '83'}}, {'300000555': {'rain': 0}}, {'400000555': {'wind-speed': '2.9', 'wind-gust': '5.6', 'wind-direction': 'ESE'}}, {'100000555': {'barometer': '1008'}}]
but then i get stuck

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 6:21 PM

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add all the other bits i sent you

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 6:24 PM

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worked this time... didn't before... nice 🙂

mighty ledge May 18, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Put the value in attributes for rest

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 6:25 PM

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now i just need to find out how to do the {% set value = states('sensor.json_vejr')|from_json %} part in the sensor

mighty ledge May 18, 2020, 6:25 PM

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You’re limited to 255 characters for the state

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You’re going to run into issues

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 6:27 PM

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so far it saves the items fine

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but yes i might give problems in the long run

mighty ledge May 18, 2020, 6:29 PM

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you get stuck because it's not JSON, it's not converting it because it has invalid json characters'

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json does not use single quotes at all.

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 6:30 PM

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thats home assistant that gives it '... cause the source is with "

mighty ledge May 18, 2020, 6:32 PM

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then whats the problem? You've been given the correct syntax if it's been converted [0]['200000555'].temperature

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{% set value = states('sensor.json_vejr')|from_json %}
{{ value[0]['200000555'].temperature }}

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 6:33 PM

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yes that works in the testing.... now i just need that down into my config 🙂

frail hawk May 18, 2020, 6:53 PM

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thanx @mighty ledge and @dreamy sinew 🙂 now i just need to get all the devices added ans showed in the frontend 🙂

sturdy juniper May 18, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Need some help getting some nested attributes out of this rest sensor I made..

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https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s9GqBJYTVd/

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I'd like to have the grass part of AirAndPollen ..

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{{ states.sensor.accuweather.attributes.DailyForecasts.AirAndPollen.grass }}

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doesnt seem to work

brisk temple May 18, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Grass is capitalized

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 8:51 PM

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daily forecasts is also a list

sturdy juniper May 18, 2020, 9:01 PM

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{{ states.sensor.accuweather.attributes.DailyForecasts{10}.Grass }}

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isnt working either, forgive my ignorance, its all new to me ..

rugged laurel May 18, 2020, 9:03 PM

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{%set a=(state_attr('sensor.accuweather', 'DailyForecasts')[0].AirAndPollen | selectattr('Name', 'in', 'Grass') | list)[0]%}{{a.Category}}

dreamy sinew May 18, 2020, 9:05 PM

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are you testing in the template tester?

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devtools > Templates

sturdy juniper May 18, 2020, 9:05 PM

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{%set a=(state_attr('sensor.accuweather', 'DailyForecasts')[0].AirAndPollen | selectattr('Name', 'in', 'Grass') | list)[0]%}{{a.Category}}
throws
Error rendering template: UndefinedError: None has no element 0

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@dreamy sinew yes

quiet creek May 18, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I was wondering how to add a switch to the lovelace ui that can trigger one flow when it is on and another flow when it is turned off how would I do that?

rugged laurel May 18, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Works for me 🤷‍♂️

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so a) You pasted wrong, b) You are not using the correct entity Id, c) the data you pasted is not correct

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take your pick

sturdy juniper May 18, 2020, 9:10 PM

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it also has this at the end of the sensor data
friendly_name: accuweather
i accidentally left it out with the personal info 🤦‍♂️

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I'll make a new paste, hang on

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https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SyzMj9Cpc3/

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thats it in full, replaced the info with x's as I should have done in the first place

rare panther May 18, 2020, 11:23 PM

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@quiet creek Use templates https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/switch.template/

little gale May 19, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Whats wrong here?

{{ (states('sensor.internal_media_used') | float / 1024) | round(2) }}

buoyant pine May 19, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Looks fine, what issue are you having

little gale May 19, 2020, 5:58 AM

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2020-05-19 00:50:00 ERROR (SyncWorker_0) [homeassistant.util.yaml.loader] invalid key: "OrderedDict([("(states('sensor.internal_media_used') | float / 1024) | round(2)", None)])" in "/home/homeassistant/.homeassistant/configuration.yaml", line 42, column 0 2020-05-19 00:50:00 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.bootstrap] Failed to parse configuration.yaml: invalid key: "OrderedDict([("(states('sensor.internal_media_used') | float / 1024) | round(2)", None)])" in "/home/homeassistant/.homeassistant/configuration.yaml", line 42, column 0. Activating safe mode

buoyant pine May 19, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Wrap it in double quotes

little gale May 19, 2020, 5:58 AM

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It is

buoyant pine May 19, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Include the whole thing that this is part of

little gale May 19, 2020, 5:59 AM

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        value_template: {{ (states('sensor.internal_media_used') | float / 1024) | round(2) }}

buoyant pine May 19, 2020, 5:59 AM

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No, wrap the template in double quotes

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"{{ (states('sensor.internal_media_used') | float / 1024) | round(2) }}"

little gale May 19, 2020, 5:59 AM

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oh ok

buoyant pine May 19, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Otherwise it's interpreted as a dictionary

little gale May 19, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Gotcha. Thanks 🙂

charred dagger May 19, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Fun fact, that's not invalid because you are trying to use a dict as a key, but because it has no value.
{{ (states('sensor.internal_media_used') | float / 1024) | round(2) : something}: whatever} is valid yaml.

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No sane person would use a dict as a key, but you can.

arctic sorrel May 19, 2020, 10:02 AM

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Templates are fun 😄

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Sane... here... 🤔

charred dagger May 19, 2020, 10:04 AM

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Inb4 "bUt PyThOn": Python is a programming language, it could make sense there. Yaml is a data storage format.

mighty ledge May 19, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Wrap that sucker in quotes

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Oops, replying to really old msg

arctic sorrel May 19, 2020, 12:45 PM

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🤣

mighty ledge May 19, 2020, 12:46 PM

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As long as your repr is unique you can use any object as a key for a dict

charred dagger May 19, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Unique and hashable.

rain glacier May 19, 2020, 4:33 PM

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I need a little help for with this template is this the proper format? I see the data in the graph but its not Calculating the total

dreamy sinew May 19, 2020, 4:34 PM

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should be fine. drop it into the template tester

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devtools > templates

buoyant pine May 19, 2020, 4:35 PM

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round(2) maybe?

dreamy sinew May 19, 2020, 4:35 PM

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oh, yeah

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you're a bit space happy

rain glacier May 19, 2020, 4:35 PM

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heh

buoyant pine May 19, 2020, 4:35 PM

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👀

dreamy sinew May 19, 2020, 4:36 PM

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might need |float and |round(2)

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i think that's one of those that doesn't matter until it does

rain glacier May 19, 2020, 4:37 PM

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where wouldi put that

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before the round (2)

dreamy sinew May 19, 2020, 4:37 PM

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no, make the places where you're using those and make them look like that

rain glacier May 19, 2020, 4:38 PM

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oh ok

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still 0

dreamy sinew May 19, 2020, 4:40 PM

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you made some changes, what does it look like now?

rain glacier May 19, 2020, 4:41 PM

#

dreamy sinew May 19, 2020, 4:41 PM

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you didn't fix the first float, you didn't fix the round

rain glacier May 19, 2020, 4:41 PM

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oh

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dreamy sinew May 19, 2020, 4:42 PM

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now try it in the template tester

rain glacier May 19, 2020, 4:43 PM

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still 0

dreamy sinew May 19, 2020, 4:43 PM

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0 or 0.0 ?

rain glacier May 19, 2020, 4:43 PM

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0.0

dreamy sinew May 19, 2020, 4:44 PM

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in the tester just output both your sensors individually

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{{ states('sensor.sensor2') }}```

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are either of those 0?

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or unav/unk?

rain glacier May 19, 2020, 4:46 PM

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checking

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value_template: "0" "0.097

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welp

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now i need to figure out why its rounding it to 0 when its .020 on the graph

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ty @dreamy sinew

silent barnBOT May 19, 2020, 7:22 PM

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@pine wigeon posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/w3QSDvnB2m/

pine wigeon May 19, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Hello, little problem with a template. I want the difference (in 23:45 format) between now and the alarm for turning on my hue bulbs slowly before I wake up.

The template is working, but doesn't update as the minutes go by. Even with a browser refresh (F5). The only way to have the calculation correct again is to modify the alarm hour or minute.
For the substraction, I use

sensor:
  - platform: template
state_attr('input_datetime.reveil_h_min','hour')
state_attr('input_datetime.reveil_h_min','minute')
now().hour
now().minute

Any idea ?

hollow bramble May 19, 2020, 7:25 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#templates-without-entities-using-now

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You need to update the sensor based on an entity that's constantly updating ie a time sensor. now() only renders once

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/time_date/ here are the docs for adding a time sensor

pine wigeon May 19, 2020, 7:28 PM

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In my config, I've

- platform: time_date
  display_options:
    - 'time'

But the hours and the minutes are not separed, it's why I used now()...

hollow bramble May 19, 2020, 7:28 PM

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You can use now(), but you have to list sensor.time under entity_id

buoyant pine May 19, 2020, 7:28 PM

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in the template sensor config

hollow bramble May 19, 2020, 7:29 PM

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sensor:
  - platform: template
    ...
      entity_id: sensor.time
...

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This is telling the template sensor to refresh the template render each time sensor.time updates, which is every minute

pine wigeon May 19, 2020, 7:32 PM

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I've edited, restart takes several minutes even with the Ryzen 5, I will see. Thank you Villhellm, you helped me a lot today. 👍

hollow bramble May 19, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Do you have a Zwave network tied to HA?

pine wigeon May 19, 2020, 7:34 PM

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We have the answer : with "entity_id: sensor.time", the calculation does not update by itself, but no more when I edit the alarm hour/min 😆

hollow bramble May 19, 2020, 7:34 PM

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You need to add those under entity_id as well

pine wigeon May 19, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Do you have a Zwave network tied to HA?
@hollow bramble Nope, only 10+ NodeMCU

hollow bramble May 19, 2020, 7:35 PM

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entity_id:
  - input_datetime.reveil_h_min
  - input_datetime.reveil_h_min
  - sensor.time

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Or you could just wait a minute 😉

pine wigeon May 19, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Configuration invalide
Invalid config for [sensor.template]: [entity_id] is an invalid option for [sensor.template]. Check: sensor.template->entity_id. (See ?, line ?).

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I wanted to add my RF-Link USB gateway but FreeNAS is a little fickle

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So I keep my MQTT Wi-Fi sensors

hollow bramble May 19, 2020, 7:39 PM

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What does your sensor config look like now?

pine wigeon May 19, 2020, 7:40 PM

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sensor:
  - platform: template
    entity_id: sensor.time
    entity_id: input_datetime.reveil_h_min
    sensors:
      sommeil_restant:
        value_template: >-

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I also tried

sensor:
  - platform: template
    sensors:
      sommeil_restant:
        entity_id: sensor.time
        value_template: >-

hollow bramble May 19, 2020, 7:41 PM

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The second one doesn't work?

pine wigeon May 19, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Nope, sadly

hollow bramble May 19, 2020, 7:43 PM

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You can only list the key once, so the first will never work. You need to add it as a list like I showed here https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/672223497736421388/712387969452867715

buoyant pine May 19, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Does sensor.time exist?

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Check developer tools > states

pine wigeon May 19, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Yup

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friendly_name: Time
icon: 'mdi:clock'

hollow bramble May 19, 2020, 7:44 PM

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sensor:
  - platform: template
    sensors:
      sommeil_restant:
        entity_id:
          - input_datetime.reveil_h_min
          - sensor.time
        value_template: >-

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Just realized I duplicated the input for no reason 😅

pine wigeon May 19, 2020, 7:45 PM

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input_datetime.reveil_h_min two times, one for the mours attribute and one for the minutes attribute ?

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It answers

Just realized I duplicated the input for no reason 😅
@hollow bramble 😆

hollow bramble May 19, 2020, 7:46 PM

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No, sorry I thought your template had two entities. I wasn't paying close enough attention

pine wigeon May 19, 2020, 7:48 PM

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No problem, I use input_datetime with the https://github.com/GeorgeSG/lovelace-time-picker-card , one entity and two attributes

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Perfect, it updates instantly, thanks again!

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Do you know if every minute, python read the binaries in the storage, generating i/o, or if all necessary items are fully loaded in RAM ?

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For turning a lamp on I don't really care, but with our template an io traffic every minute is not very optimized

hollow bramble May 19, 2020, 7:53 PM

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That I'm not sure of. Either way performance impact would be minimal

pine wigeon May 19, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Yeah, sure.

mighty ledge May 19, 2020, 8:11 PM

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@pine wigeon if you just make a sensor using the datetime in a sensor with the device_class: timestamp it will update and you don't need to perform math. Also, you wont' need to attach a sensor.time to it.

versed lava May 20, 2020, 12:44 PM

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I have a question about the binary sensor platform: I'd like to track if the Raspi running the Home Assistant has a internet connection by pinging to the outside world. How do I turn that into a binary sensor with the connectivity class?

silent barnBOT May 20, 2020, 12:44 PM

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:ping_pong: ping?

PONG!

arctic sorrel May 20, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Dammit bot...

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/ping
https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/customizing-devices/

versed lava May 20, 2020, 12:48 PM

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thanks. found a way

tight thicket May 20, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Hey everyone. How can I display the time that has expired since a windows contact (on/off) was triggered the last time?

arctic sorrel May 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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You can do that in the #frontend-archived with an entities card

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Set the secondary_info value

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https://www.home-assistant.io/lovelace/entities/#secondary_info

tight thicket May 20, 2020, 7:17 PM

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I have seen that, but I want to show this info on the right side instead of the "open / closed" state

arctic sorrel May 20, 2020, 7:28 PM

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That then would require a template sensor

tight thicket May 20, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Are there any examples?

arctic sorrel May 20, 2020, 7:49 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template

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You have to build the logic you want into the template, for all of it

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Possibly something like {{ states.binary_sensor.window.last_updated }}

tight thicket May 20, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Okay i will try, thank you !

hollow ocean May 21, 2020, 3:14 AM

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So this might be the right place for this. Basically, I am using the REST platform to call the onecall api from Open Weather Map. My issue, is that because I am creating sensors for forecasted information, the sensors represent data that is relative to today eg: the first sensor is todays high, the next is tomorrows high, and the next is the high for the day after next and so on. I want to be able to represent that in a card as the correct day of the week it is forecasting. Meaning I need it so that the name or by some other means understands today is X therefore I am X+2days=Friday. I am using an entity card with a multiple entity row to display each day, and the days are currently labeled today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, the day after that and so on. I would like to replace those values with the days of the week relative to today.

Anyone have any ideas?

hollow ocean May 21, 2020, 3:54 AM

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I guess the shorter version would be how do I make a template or template sensor that would allow me to take today's day of the week and add a day or two, so that the end result would be the name of the day of the week X number of days from today?

ivory delta May 21, 2020, 7:11 AM

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@hollow ocean I don't know how to do the full thing but you'd start with something like now().weekday() to get a number representing the current day of the week (0=Monday, 6=Sunday). Do some math to add your X days, then map it back to a friendly name (this part will probably be a long series of if/else statements)

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An example of mapping values to your preferred display names: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/example-of-if-statement-for-template-sensor/24010

mighty ledge May 21, 2020, 11:36 AM

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@hollow ocean post the entity you are pulling the info from. Take a screenshot of it on the devtools -> states page.

hollow ocean May 21, 2020, 11:42 AM

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@mighty ledge apparently I can't post photos?

mighty ledge May 21, 2020, 11:43 AM

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use something like imgur

hollow ocean May 21, 2020, 11:47 AM

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http://imgur.com/gallery/wkuWOW6

mighty ledge May 21, 2020, 11:58 AM

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So each of those sensors are the information you're outputting?

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@hollow ocean hastebin the code for each of those, the solution will be complicated

silent barnBOT May 21, 2020, 4:12 PM

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@timber locust posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wrhZhcxTcJ/

arctic sorrel May 21, 2020, 4:13 PM

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~codewall @timber locust

silent barnBOT May 21, 2020, 4:14 PM

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@timber locust Rule #6: Please do not post codewalls (longer than 15 lines) - use sites such as https://hasteb.in/, https://paste.ubuntu.com/, or others.

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Whoops. Too much code I see. Just the message without the code:
Hey everyone! I'm trying to create an automation for my Xiaomi Roborock to clean the rooms in my house in sequence. I want to do that in such a way, that when I stop the vacuum before it's finished with a specific room, and then continue it, it will continue the cleaning from that room onwards. To do so, I have created this code in the codewall.

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So basically I have found the room numbers that my vacuum uses (tested and they work using call service in dev tools). I then have a script that calls the clean_next_area as long as the whole house has not been done yet (I just noticed an oversight here, but nevermind this for now). The clean_next_area script should then clean the room selected in the input_select, wait until the vacuum is done, and then call the first script again, which loops again. However it does not work, as I get the error below:
2020-05-20 17:52:25 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.xiaomi_miio.vacuum] Unable to send command to the vacuum: {'code': -10000, 'message': 'data for segment is not a number'}

arctic sorrel May 21, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Possibly

          params: {{states('input_select.vacuum_room_numbers')|int}}

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The quotes turn it into a string

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:16 PM

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I think the code fails to verify when I do that. Let me check!

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:16 PM

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The service should be parsing it anyway. Might be considered a bug

arctic sorrel May 21, 2020, 4:17 PM

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      - wait_template: "{{ states.vacuum.xiaomi_vacuum_cleaner.attributes.status == 'Returning home'}}"

Could be written as

      - wait_template: "{{ is_state_attr('vacuum.xiaomi_vacuum_cleaner','status','Returning home') }}"

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Error loading /config/configuration.yaml: invalid key: "OrderedDict([("states('input_select.vacuum_room_numbers')|int", None)])" in "/config/packages/misc/test.yaml", line 158, column 0

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Need to wrap it in quotes

arctic sorrel May 21, 2020, 4:18 PM

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          params: >-
            {{states('input_select.vacuum_room_numbers')|int}}
``` should work then, but I suspect will suffer the same problem

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:18 PM

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or that

arctic sorrel May 21, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Yeah, I was wondering if the quotes was turning it into a string, and causing the original issue

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:18 PM

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I did Tinkerer's suggestion, and now it validates.

arctic sorrel May 21, 2020, 4:18 PM

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The real question is, does it work

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:19 PM

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About the suggestions that you made earlier, using is_state_attr(), why use that instead of what I have? Is it better practice, or?

arctic sorrel May 21, 2020, 4:19 PM

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See the templating docs 😉

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Better practice (basically)

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There are times you'll want to use the approach you've got though

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Why not just send all the rooms at once instead of waiting for return? https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/vacuum.xiaomi_miio/#example-on-how-to-clean-a-specific-room it should do them in sequence

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Okay thanks!

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@hollow bramble I could do that, but how can I then detect which rooms were already done?

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Restarting HA now. Let's see

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Oh okay now I see what you're getting at

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Yeah, same error:
2020-05-21 18:22:12 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.xiaomi_miio.vacuum] Unable to send command to the vacuum: {'code': -10000, 'message': 'data for segment is not a number'}

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:22 PM

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It could be you're not giving it an array

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:22 PM

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When I use the call service dev tool, I can feed it a number or an array and it is fine.

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:23 PM

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params: ["{{states('input_select.vacuum_room_numbers')|int}}"]

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:23 PM

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I tried to give it an array before, that doesn't work.

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:23 PM

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It works if you wrap the number in quotes?

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Good point! Let me check! 🙂

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When I feed it:
entity_id: vacuum.xiaomi_vacuum_cleaner command: app_segment_clean params: key: '[1]'
, it gives me:
2020-05-21 18:24:05 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.xiaomi_miio.vacuum] Unable to send command to the vacuum: {'code': -10000, 'message': 'Param is not an array'}

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:25 PM

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no, quotes go inside the array

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you just turned the array into a string

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Ah okay. One more thing, when I feed it:
entity_id: vacuum.xiaomi_vacuum_cleaner command: app_segment_clean params: key: 1
It throws the same error.

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:26 PM

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where is key: coming from?

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Oooh yeah. I filled the example data. Let me remove it.

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When I removed the key, and put it immediately after params:, it throws a different error:
2020-05-21 18:26:51 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.xiaomi_miio.vacuum] Unable to send command to the vacuum: {'code': -10000, 'message': 'data for segment is not a number'}
That is with: params: ['1']

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This does work:
entity_id: vacuum.xiaomi_vacuum_cleaner command: app_segment_clean params: 1
The vacuum is now cleaning room 1.

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:29 PM

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I would open a bug report. The service should at least attempt to parse an int if it's given a string or an array of strings

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Okay. Where/how do I do that?

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Ah. Found it on the website.

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:31 PM

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https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/new?template=BUG_REPORT.md

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Thank you guys so much for your help!

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Sorry it's not actually solved

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Is it a bug in the component or with home assistant itself?

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:32 PM

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The component is part of home assistant

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:33 PM

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But I mean is it with how home assistant handles templates, or with this specific component?

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:33 PM

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It's with this specific component. The send_command service specifically

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Ah okay. Thanks for the heads-up! I'll file a bug report!

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Oh actually it looks like send_command is a service on the base vacuum component

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/vacuum/

timber locust May 21, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Is this a good title for the issue: vacuum send_command does not parse non-integer in template

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I mean the template isn't necessary, but it does give context to how the bug affects users

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Either way they'll figure it out

timber locust May 21, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Am I missing any important info here? https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/35934

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I realise how important good documentation/logging is to solve these problems.

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 5:11 PM

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I would probably mention that a simple service call with

entity_id: vacuum.xiaomi_vacuum_cleaner
command: app_segment_clean
params: '1'

fails with that error

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Just to make it clear there are not errors in your template

timber locust May 21, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Very good point! Thanks. Updated!

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Hey @hollow bramble thanks so much for your quick support. I really appreciate it! 🙂

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 5:14 PM

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No problem, glad to help

timber locust May 21, 2020, 5:15 PM

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How long does it usually take for an issue to get picked up?

buoyant pine May 21, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Between now and the heat death of the universe

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There's no clear answer tbh

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Yeah it totally depends on who is in charge of the integration. Seeing as how this is a core integration issue you might have better luck

timber locust May 21, 2020, 5:17 PM

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So days to weeks?

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Or longer

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Like Tediore said, heat death of the universe is not out of the realm of possibility

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If no one picks it up soon I'll try to look into fixing it myself. Usually if you post an incorrect pull request you get help a lot faster 😉

timber locust May 21, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Haha

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Put considering the backlog of 1000+ issues and 250+ PRs idk

timber locust May 21, 2020, 5:20 PM

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To me, it sounds like a relatively simple issue to fix. If params == string, params = str2num(params) endif.

hollow bramble May 21, 2020, 5:22 PM

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There is loads of red tape when it comes to "simple" fixes. Style guides, best practices, random required library uses, etc

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It has to be done the "right ™️ " way

timber locust May 21, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Sounds understandable. I'm only used to cooking home-made spaghetti in Matlab 😛

small silo May 21, 2020, 6:56 PM

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I don't know if this is the right place, but here goes. I have an mqtt sensor call maintank_color whose values are colors in hex format(including the #) i.e #aabbcc. I'm trying to use that sensor to set the background color of a card. If I specify the color explicitly it works, but if I try to use states('sensor.maintank_color') it doesn't. I've checked the the state of the sensor using the developer tools and the values look correct.

timber locust May 21, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Do you get an error in the logs?

heady egret May 22, 2020, 9:42 AM

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So in the integration tab i added my modem, now i can see my network speed. But its in KIB/s.. whats the best way to convert it? just add a template sensor? or are there other solutions for UOM conversions?

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 12:23 PM

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@mighty ledge sorry it took so long - i was travelling - did you mean this ? https://pastebin.com/qX9EFv13

mighty ledge May 22, 2020, 12:24 PM

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@hollow ocean yes, the good news is, you already have the complicated part complete

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 12:25 PM

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thats encouraging

mighty ledge May 22, 2020, 12:26 PM

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@hollow ocean All you need now is friendly_name templates

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What's in the JSON?

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if there's nothing, and all you know is that [0] index is the day... Then this will work:

friendly_name_template: "{{ now().timestamp() | timestamp_custom("%A") }}"

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for each additional day you need to do this

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friendly_name_template: "{{ (now().timestamp() + 1 * 86400) | timestamp_custom("%A") }}"

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then just change the 1 with the index value

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 12:31 PM

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I dont know where the JSON is?

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But, I can just put this into the sensor and it will work?

mighty ledge May 22, 2020, 12:31 PM

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so a full example for today and tomorrow would be:

      openweather_temp_max_today:
        friendly_name_template: "{{ now().timestamp() | timestamp_custom("%A") }}"
        value_template: "{{ state_attr('sensor.openweather_report', 'daily')[0].temp.max }}"
        unit_of_measurement: "°F"
      openweather_temp_max_tomorrow:
        friendly_name_template: "{{ (now().timestamp() + 1 * 86400) | timestamp_custom("%A") }}"
        value_template: "{{ state_attr('sensor.openweather_report', 'daily')[1].temp.max }}"
        unit_of_measurement: "°F"
      openweather_temp_max_3:
        friendly_name_template: "{{ (now().timestamp() + 2 * 86400) | timestamp_custom("%A") }}"
        value_template: "{{ state_attr('sensor.openweather_report', 'daily')[2].temp.max }}"
        unit_of_measurement: "°F"

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Yes, you can. See https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/#friendly_name_template for template sensors

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 12:32 PM

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That is incredibly helpful

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Im going to try this now!!

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    sensors:
      openweather_temp_max_today:
        friendly_name_template: "{{ now().timestamp() | timestamp_custom("%A") }}"
        value_template: "{{ state_attr('sensor.openweather_report', 'daily')[0].temp.max }}"
        unit_of_measurement: "°F"

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its saying invalid, bad indentation of a mapping entry at line 73, column 75:
... timestamp() | timestamp_custom("%A") }}"

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everything prior to the % is green, everything ater is black

mighty ledge May 22, 2020, 12:40 PM

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switch now().timestamp() to as_timestamp(now())

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try it in template editor first

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It could have typos, going off memory

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Oh, nevermind, typo

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change the outerquotes to single quotes

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        friendly_name_template: '{{ now().timestamp() | timestamp_custom("%A") }}'

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in all cases.

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 12:41 PM

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that seems to do the trik

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trick*

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Log Details (ERROR)
Logger: homeassistant.components.hassio
Source: components/hassio/init.py:277
Integration: Hass.io (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 8:48:38 AM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 8:48:38 AM

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Invalid config for [sensor.template]: invalid template (TemplateSyntaxError: unexpected ')') for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['openweather_temp_max_3']['friendly_name_template']. Got '{{ now().timestamp() + 2 * 86400) | timestamp_custom("%A") }}' invalid template (TemplateSyntaxError: unexpected ')') for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['openweather_temp_max_4']['friendly_name_template']. Got '{{ now().timestamp() + 3 * 86400) | timestamp_custom("%A") }}' invalid template (TemplateSyntaxError: unexpected ')') for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['openweather_temp_max_5']['friendly_name_template']. Got '{{ now().timestamp() + 4 * 86400) | timestamp_custom("%A") }}' invalid template (TemplateSyntaxError: unexpected ')') for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['openweather_temp_max_tomorrow']['friendly_name_template']. Got '{{ now().timestamp() + 1 * 86400) | timestamp_custom("%A") }}' invalid template (TemplateSyntaxError: unexpected ')') for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['openweather_temp_min_3']['friendly_name_template']. Got '{{ now().timestamp() + 2 * 86400) | timestamp_custom("%A") }}' invalid template (TemplateSyntaxError: unexpected ')') for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['openweather_temp_min_4']['friendly_name_template']. Got '{{ now().timestamp() + 3 * 86400) | timestamp_custom("%A") }}' invalid template (TemplateSyntaxError: unexpected ')') for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['openweather_temp_min_5']['friendly_name_template']. Got '{{ now().timestamp() + 4 * 86400) | timestamp_custom("%A") }}' invalid template (TemplateSyntaxError: unexpected ')') for dictionary value @ data['sensors']['openweather_temp_min_tomorrow']['friendly_name_template']. Got '{{ now().timestamp() + 1 * 86400) | timestamp_custom("%A") }}'. (See ?, line ?).

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@mighty ledge just got this error

mighty ledge May 22, 2020, 1:02 PM

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You’re missing the leading ( in the template. Check my previous post and compare it to yours. Try it in the template editor

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 1:05 PM

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oh its unny how sometimes I just dont see those little things

brisk temple May 22, 2020, 1:11 PM

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you can't put conditions in a command_line sensor right? I want to run the command only if a ping sensor is showing the remote device is up

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 1:24 PM

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@mighty ledge I dont think Im seeing the missining (

brisk temple May 22, 2020, 1:26 PM

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you have an ending ) after the 86400s but not a beginning (

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 1:27 PM

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so it goes ahead o 1

brisk temple May 22, 2020, 1:28 PM

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i assume you want it infront of now()

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{{ (now().timestamp() + 1 * 86400) | timestamp_custom("%A") }}

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 1:41 PM

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that also led to an erro

mighty ledge May 22, 2020, 2:03 PM

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did you change the outside quotes as well?

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'{{ (now().timestamp() + 1 * 86400) | timestamp_custom("%A") }}'

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are you trying this in the template editor?

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@hollow ocean I'm not getting any errors with that in the editor, therefore it has to do with your formatting, not the template itself.

silent barnBOT May 22, 2020, 2:14 PM

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@hollow ocean posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qwK8YNYjfR/

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 2:14 PM

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it looks like this now

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and I get the errors

arctic sorrel May 22, 2020, 2:15 PM

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~codewall @hollow ocean

silent barnBOT May 22, 2020, 2:15 PM

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@hollow ocean Rule #6: Please do not post codewalls (longer than 15 lines) - use sites such as https://hasteb.in/, https://paste.ubuntu.com/, or others.

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hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 2:43 PM

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sorry about that

mighty ledge May 22, 2020, 2:48 PM

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I don't know how that's possible because the template is correct and your format is correct.

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post the error

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 2:53 PM

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https://pastebin.com/hMDYWv0Y

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 2:55 PM

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You have double quotes inside single quotes

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might be an issue

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Oh and all your friendly_name templates have an extra ( at the beginning

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'{{ (now().timestamp() | timestamp_custom("%A") }}' to "{{ now().timestamp() | timestamp_custom('%A') }}"

marble sun May 22, 2020, 3:07 PM

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double quotes don’t work inside single quotes?

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 3:07 PM

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https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/documenting/standards/#single-vs-double-quotation-marks

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 3:07 PM

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removing the double quotes caused a red exclamation mark

marble sun May 22, 2020, 3:08 PM

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huh, I’d never have guessed

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thank you!

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 3:08 PM

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it is an error

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 3:08 PM

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What is the error

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 3:09 PM

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bad indentation of a mapping entry at line 73, column 76:
... timestamp() | timestamp_custom('%A') }}'

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 3:09 PM

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... you need double quotes on the outside, like I posted

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 3:10 PM

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will try

marble sun May 22, 2020, 3:13 PM

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@hollow bramble I thought those docs were just the HA house style for people writing documentation, not a syntax requirement

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 3:14 PM

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im still getting errors in the log

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Post the errors

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@marble sun it's possible, but I feel like in the past people have had issues when trying it the other way. I could just be misremembering though

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 3:15 PM

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https://pastebin.com/smZpBFBK

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and here is the sensor jic

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https://pastebin.com/J4636sXk

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Did you read the error? And are you testing your templates in the dev templates tool?

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TemplateSyntaxError: unexpected ')'

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Some of your templates are doing math, some aren't. If you have ) it needs a ( in front. I thought they were the same

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 3:20 PM

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I always try to read the error to see what I can make o it but, not the templates tool

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So I was trying to put a ( , but could quite think where

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Test each one in the templates tool

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 3:24 PM

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ok

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openweather_temp_max_tomorrow:
friendly_name_template: "{{ (now().timestamp() + 1* 86400) | timestamp_custom('%A') }}"
value_template: "{{ state_attr('sensor.openweather_report', 'daily')[1].temp.max }}"
unit_of_measurement: "°F"

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this one worked in the template too

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tool*

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Now do that for all of them

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 3:36 PM

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It worked! This was awesome and super helpul

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much appreciated

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I will use the template tool way more too

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Yes, always test templates before using them in a configuration

hollow ocean May 22, 2020, 3:56 PM

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makes total sense

mortal monolith May 22, 2020, 4:21 PM

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how do I get this list of media players into an input_select? {% for state in states.media_player -%} {{ state.entity_id }}, {% endfor %}

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I know it's "set_options" service, but I can't seem to find the right format

mighty ledge May 22, 2020, 4:33 PM

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@hollow bramble you can interchange doulbe and single quotes for inside/outside. That doesn't matter.

buoyant pine May 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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though, single outside/double inside looks weird IMO

mighty ledge May 22, 2020, 4:40 PM

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yah, but it's easier to replace 2 double quote outsides than 27424 double quote insides

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#lazy

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 4:42 PM

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replace all " with ', then replace all '{{ and }}' with "{{ and }}"

rugged laurel May 22, 2020, 4:42 PM

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options: "{{states.media_player | map(attribute='entity_id') |list }}"

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 4:42 PM

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then watch everything break when you had random spaces 🙂

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Oh dang, ninja promotion 🎉

dreamy sinew May 22, 2020, 4:43 PM

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i'm not sure if that'll work though because you'd get a stringified list

rugged laurel May 22, 2020, 4:43 PM

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yeah... one can hope 🤷‍♂️

dreamy sinew May 22, 2020, 4:44 PM

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maybe |list|tojson?

rugged laurel May 22, 2020, 4:44 PM

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potentially

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better to just use AD for it 😄

dreamy sinew May 22, 2020, 4:44 PM

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haha

mighty ledge May 22, 2020, 4:45 PM

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replace all " with ', then replace all '{{ and }}' with "{{ and }}"
@hollow bramble that's 1 extra step i'm willing to skip

dreamy sinew May 22, 2020, 4:45 PM

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maybe a multiline could solve it

mighty ledge May 22, 2020, 4:47 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/nobody-got-time-for-that-gif-10243842

Tenor

dreamy sinew May 22, 2020, 4:47 PM

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{%- for player in states.media_player | map(attribute='entity_id') |list %}
  - {{ player }}
{%- endfor -%}```

rugged laurel May 22, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Wouldn't that just give:

"- entity"
  "- entity"

dreamy sinew May 22, 2020, 4:49 PM

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with proper escapging

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📎 unknown.png

rugged laurel May 22, 2020, 4:49 PM

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sure, but the template engine will mangle it?

dreamy sinew May 22, 2020, 4:49 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

mighty ledge May 22, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I don't think it would. I use it in lovelace_gen which uses the built in template engine

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doesn't mangle any of the spacing

buoyant pine May 22, 2020, 4:51 PM

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M A L F O R M E D

dreamy sinew May 22, 2020, 4:52 PM

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mine?

buoyant pine May 22, 2020, 4:52 PM

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nah, seeing "mangled" made me think of the "db disk image is malformed" error

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malformed just makes me laugh for some reason

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H O R R I B L Y M A N G L E D

crude crest May 22, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Is there a good way to measure how long an entity has been in a certain state? Like the for: key in the state trigger.

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I'm trying to get something to run every day, and check a couple of entities for how long they've been in a certain state, and perform an action if they have been.

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My other option is to do separate automations for each entity, but I'd rather put it all in a template, if possible.

rugged laurel May 22, 2020, 5:22 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/state_object/ last_changed

crude crest May 22, 2020, 5:22 PM

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and then pass that timestamp to something relative_time or something to measure how long it's been.

rugged laurel May 22, 2020, 5:23 PM

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if you make it a template sensor, you can add the timestamp device class, and the UI makes it human readable

crude crest May 22, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Good point

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also, hacs 1.0 looks awesome. thanks for your work.

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This is the automation I'm working on. Roughed out the initial automation, but I need to get it to actually work, lol. https://github.com/Apocrathia/home-assistant-config/blob/master/packages/integrations/vacuum.yaml#L179

rugged laurel May 22, 2020, 5:26 PM

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What's wrong with that?

crude crest May 22, 2020, 5:26 PM

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the service call is wrong, should be start but it currently triggers at whenever it last ran +24 hours. Trying to get it to check every morning. I'll try the last_changed in a couple of if statements for each entity

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 5:27 PM

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You can use for in a condition

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time trigger, condition for 24 hours

crude crest May 22, 2020, 5:27 PM

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yeah, I tried that, but then the trigger.entity_id would be invalid, because it wasn't an entity that triggered the automation, but the time.

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 5:28 PM

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You have 2 vacuums, why not just make 2 automations?

crude crest May 22, 2020, 5:29 PM

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it's either that or a template. probably easiest to just make 2 automations.

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 5:29 PM

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That would be a very complicated template if your trigger is going to be time regardless

crude crest May 22, 2020, 5:30 PM

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relative_time(state.last_changed) >= 24 in a couple of if statements 🤷

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https://hastebin.com/uloduwunuk.pl

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Yeah, that's probably easiest over a template.

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Thanks for talking some sense into me 😏

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I like writing stuff in templates because the structure feels more "standard" (if statements, loops, etc), but the HA automation format works if you build everything individually. I'm just irked for no logical reason by having a million automations, lol.

pulsar flax May 22, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Hello I was curious I put a script in to turn on netflix on my fire tv, which is com.netflix.ninja. I was curious to know what does .ninja mean? I tried googling but couldn't find anything

mighty ledge May 22, 2020, 6:12 PM

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That probably depends on the integration

pulsar flax May 22, 2020, 6:13 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/androidtv/

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I mean it works but I was curious for my own knowledge

dreamy sinew May 22, 2020, 6:14 PM

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its a quirk with how apps are named in the android os

pulsar flax May 22, 2020, 6:14 PM

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ah ok

brisk temple May 22, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Is there a way to test the value_template of a json without having to make a change reboot, rinse, repeat?

arctic sorrel May 22, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Well, don't reboot for a start

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devtools -> Templates though

brisk temple May 22, 2020, 7:13 PM

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well it's a command line sensor reading a file that has the json to try and pass into HA

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i should have started with that

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 7:13 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#tofrom-json-examples

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{% set value_template = 'paste your json here' |from_json %}
{{value_template.value_you_are_looking_for}}

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or whatever you want to call the object

brisk temple May 22, 2020, 7:17 PM

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setting the json in templates i think is going to at least save my sanity

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thanks

brisk temple May 22, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I can't get the json_attributes to work in this

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https://pastebin.com/2UzQJxg0

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just goes to state

glad zealot May 22, 2020, 9:40 PM

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can someone help me with a mqtt template for this data? I would like the last piece "notification - timeout", the json looks like this: {"data":[13,1,"Notification - TimeOut"]}

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nvm got it. Thanks @hollow bramble for the technique. {{value_template.data[2]}}

flint light May 22, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Hello everyone. I'm stuck trying to get the last changed value of a script. I want to see how long a script has been running (it includes a delay). But my problem is that I can't find a way to query the last_changed property of a script.

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I can run: {% for state in states.script -%} {%- if loop.first %}The {% elif loop.last %} and the {% else %}, the {% endif -%} {{ state.entity_id | lower }} is {{state.last_changed}} {%- endfor %}.
and it shows all scripts and the last time they changed... but I can not get the last change state of a single script

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 10:20 PM

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That's not really how scipts work. They never change state

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They do have a last_triggered attribute

flint light May 22, 2020, 10:21 PM

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I see.. why the loop above shows a value..

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 10:22 PM

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It probably shows the value of the last time you restarted HA

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or the last time the attribute was updated

flint light May 22, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Nop.. actually the last time the script was activated

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They actually change state for a while. If a script have a delay.. yt change to ON.. and can be stopped.

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Oh maybe I'm misremembering. What information are you trying to get?

flint light May 22, 2020, 10:25 PM

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But you are right... they have a last_triggered also.. but how can I get that value?

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 10:25 PM

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I just ran a script and last_changed stayed the same

flint light May 22, 2020, 10:25 PM

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It has to have a delya in it

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 10:26 PM

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{% for state in states.script -%}
  {{state_attr(state.entity_id, 'last_triggered')}}
{%- endfor %}

flint light May 22, 2020, 10:26 PM

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if I try {{ states.script.1590120819845.last_triggered }} it trhows an error

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 10:26 PM

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It's an attribute

flint light May 22, 2020, 10:27 PM

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ah OK.. let me try

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 10:27 PM

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So you'd have to do script.script_name.attributes.last_triggered

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but it's better to use the state_attr function

flint light May 22, 2020, 10:29 PM

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{{state_attr(state.script.1590120819845, 'last_triggered')}} does not work

hollow bramble May 22, 2020, 10:29 PM

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You need to give it an entity_id. You're mixing up syntax {{state_attr('script.1590120819845', 'last_triggered')}}

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in the loop state.entity_id is a string. The function needs a string as the first argument

flint light May 22, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Yes. That was the problem Now it works.

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Thanks!!!

flint light May 22, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Hi again.. OK, I found something about this. Your solution shows when the script was triggered... but not when the state changed. I mean, when I start (turn ON) the script, both last_triggered and last_changed are the same. When I stop the script, the last_triggered is unchanged, but last_changed is affected reflecting the OFF state.

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So my problem is still there. How can I query the last_changed for a script. For now, I can do a loop and filter the script.. like
{% for state in states.script -%} {%- if state.entity_id == 'script.1590120819845' %} {{as_timestamp(state.last_changed) | timestamp_local}} {% endif -%} {%- endfor %}

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But that's... ugly. 🙂

kindred forge May 23, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Hmm, this is kind of what i'm looking for. I have managed to setup a heap of scripts for my xiaomi robo vacuum, but i've got some scripts which move it out of its location and drive directly over to where it needs to go, rather than it finding its way there. So i'd love to be able to script run script 1, then run script 2, then script 3. Obviously if they're all in the same script they try to trigger at once. The only way i've worked out how to do it with my limited knowledge is adding delays, to time each section of the script. Is there some way to trigger a script, then the next script not start until the previous one has finished? I've searched around but I think im either missing the key word or it's not making sense

flint light May 23, 2020, 12:49 AM

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You can find if the script is running asking for it's state. {{is_state("script.1590120819845", "on")}}

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scripts with delays stay on until they finish

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My problem is how to check when the script ended. Last_triggered shows when it started.. but only Last_changed reveals when it stopped.

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For sensors can ask for {{ states.sensor.xxx.last_changed }} ...works. But {{ states.script.xxx.last_changed }} fails. I do not know how to directly query that without the loop workaround

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EUREKA! I found the solution. The problem was the scripts beginning with a number. The correct sintax is : {{ states.script['1555205828137'].last_changed }}

flint light May 23, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Events in local time: Last triggered : {{ (as_timestamp(states.script['1590120819845'].attributes["last_triggered"])) | timestamp_local }} Last Changed : {{ (as_timestamp(states.script['1590120819845'].last_changed)) | timestamp_local }}

final acorn May 23, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Nest

brisk temple May 23, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Is anybody able to look at this and suggest why everything is going to state and not attributes?

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https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/672223497736421388/713498203420622919

hollow bramble May 23, 2020, 4:41 PM

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@brisk temple what value are you trying to parse for the state?

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https://github.com/home-assistant/core/blob/dev/homeassistant/components/command_line/sensor.py#L108 I'm not sure the attributes work the way you think it works (or work in a way that is at all clear from the docs)

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It's trying to find the attributes from the root json object, it doesn't use the value from the value_template. And it has to be a dictionary to extract values. So you'd probably have to take the entire json object in an attribute and then make template sensors to extract the values for each color

brisk temple May 23, 2020, 7:26 PM

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if i could somehow get it into HA i would have no problem with that, but it's over 255 characters

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which is why i was hoping to write it to the attributes

wary horizon May 23, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I'm having hard time finding the right doc. How do I enter the regex .+(?=\.) in a value template which uses regex_match?

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I need to extract filenames for a sensor and this was the simplest regex I was able to write

hollow bramble May 23, 2020, 8:29 PM

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@brisk temple you’ll just have to split the colors into their own sensors it seems