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#the-water-cooler
scenic radish
midnight adder
sound quality noticeably different?
scenic radish
Oh yeah
midnight adder
in what way?
scenic radish
More dynamic range
midnight adder
on FM?
scenic radish
More bass, clearer treble
Sounds like streaming high-quality audio from your phone
midnight adder
the problem with the UK spectrum allocation agency is they've been greedy and allocated for too many stations per multiplex
scenic radish
having HD radio actually made me listen to the radio more
scenic radish
You'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference between HD radio and Bluetooth streaming for instance
bitter pawn
its a problem with their network dropping connection. either their switching hardware or whatever. but its definitely not on us.
midnight adder
bluetooth streaming with AptX is ok
subtle pasture
"The HD Radio also provides several pure digital modes with up to 300 kbit/s bitrate, and enabling extra features like surround sound."
Didn't realize that...
midnight adder
interesting
subtle pasture
+1 for drive-in movie theaters with their own transmitters?
midnight adder
which codec?
scenic radish
Forgot about the additional audio channels too
subtle pasture
@midnight adder Proprietary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Definition_Coding
But compatible with MPEG4 / AAC
midnight adder
standard dab uses mp2
scenic radish
midnight adder
newer dab uses HE-AACv2 which makes 32kbps sound tolerable
subtle pasture
Looks like it's just slightly modified HE-AACv1 on HD Radio, but with up to 300 kbps of bandwidth
scenic radish
Didn't realize it was up to 300 kbps, I was about to say it sounds like audio at or around 256 kbps
Not that I can personally notice anything above 192 heh
subtle pasture
Depends on what features the station opts for
Keeping analog fallback takes a pretty large chunk of spectrum
scenic radish
Interesting
All the stations I listen to have analog fallback
And some even have multicast
Don't worry @clear ferry , not that kind of multicast
clear ferry
I can only get so erect https://imgur.com/gallery/6gRCnAr
last cedar
@young sigil fantastic house price crashing ideas
scenic radish
Maybe if I show my chest hair around whatever houses you want their value will drop and you can buy them
last cedar
Calm down, we don't want to give the ER more work
scenic radish
Norwat*
last cedar
Jeg kan icke Norska
clear ferry
Inga problem kompis, vi förstår alt du siger oavsett
scenic radish
Not enough å @last cedar
clear ferry
Skälåvælö ? @scenic radish
scenic radish
Michëllë
clear ferry
I prefer Æ
scenic radish
What about my fiancee, Åndy?
clear ferry
Mætt
clear ferry
Which is also the North Norwegian way of saying I'm full
scenic radish
More like Andy's full 😉
clear ferry
Ændi could be a regional way of saying Touching as in barely touching something
last cedar
Also, problem for me is not being understood. I don't understand. Been in Sweden 10 years. Have a lot easier time reading Norweigan, rather than hearing it.
clear ferry
Probe me for my linguistic facts daddy
last cedar
Probe you, you say?
clear ferry
@last cedar good thing we just speak English with whoever wants then
last cedar
That's cheating though
clear ferry
Indeed it is
I imported a Belgian friend here 10 years ago, he still speaks mostly English to customers, but they reply Norwegian to him
He only speaks norwegian to his twin girls from what I can tell
hearty depot
what the hell I lookin at?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32724927330.html?spm=2114.12010615.8148356.34.1d922b28x9p627
subtle pasture
subtle pasture
It's a LED + mercury switch on a PCB
last cedar
A sensor that detects magic light cups
scenic radish
Whatever it is you won't see it for 30-50 days
midnight adder
ps5?
last cedar
40 million barrels of oil
I bought a 1U server to use as a router, and a UPS from England.
Very little (of what I want to buy) for sale here in Sweden as to avoid paying import duty after 31st Dec
midnight adder
you in the uk @hearty depot ?
hearty depot
nope 🇦🇹
last cedar
I will be rebuilding it into 2U
deft pewter
Poland?!
last cedar
Too loud to use as it is
last cedar
Hahaha
midnight adder
austria
hearty depot
🇲🇨
scenic radish
midnight adder
why import taxes within eu countries?
midnight adder
i'm uk so i'm doing all the european purchases now
deft pewter
I think what Underknowledge is talking about is the abolition of the £18 allowance we have here before Royal Mail add on their exorbitant fees...
last cedar
We have lots of furniture in Sweden. All flat for easy transport
deft pewter
Soon, it'll be taxed from €0.
scenic radish
Is that an ikea joke @last cedar
midnight adder
oh, annoying
last cedar
Oh wow, that is a thing?
deft pewter
Yeah, that's a thing...
I guess the allowance only exists because it's too much admin for them if they intercept everything.
last cedar
We have that for packages from China
deft pewter
Instead, they intercept anything £18+ and charge import duty... plus a 'handling fee' of about £8.
last cedar
Wow. That is very sneaky
deft pewter
So a £20 item gets 20% tax and £8... making it £32. Very expensive.
scenic radish
Wtf
last cedar
@scenic radish perhaps
midnight adder
isn't the rm fee £11?
deft pewter
If I order something I know is coming from outside the EU, I tend to order it from someone like Amazon. They pre-pay the tax, no surprises.
£11?! I haven't been charged it in a while.
midnight adder
i got charged for a phone i bought from china last christmas
deft pewter
Ouch
midnight adder
it's £8, my mistake
deft pewter
Last 'big' purchase I got from China was my OnePlus. Ordered through their UK site so with it being a consumer product, UK law says they have to include taxes in the price 😄
£8 plus VAT... 😉
last cedar
Ouch
midnight adder
it was an aliexpress buy for my grandad, giant buttons
hearty depot
uhm uhm... again... wth I'm looking at?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33024052578.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.4f073c00Ebi8Gm&mp=1
last cedar
What the heck
deft pewter
I love the mountain of them 🤣 https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1Wv7IalWD3KVjSZFsq6AqkpXaa.jpg
last cedar
That is disturbing
hearty depot
I like the 5th most
midnight adder
that was the polite pg version of my thoughts indeed
What the heck
@last cedar
midnight adder
what is it supposed to be?
last cedar
Horrifying
midnight adder
i'm sure it'll float somebodies boat
scenic radish
Nightmare fuel
last cedar
They might as well make a plushie of the elephants foot at Chernobyl. With real radiation emission.it would be less disturbing than that.
midnight adder
probably aalready on alibaba
last cedar
Probably
scenic radish
Probably
dusky plank
Probably
subtle pasture
Firmware was just 7 years out of date. No big >_>
Kinda crazy that they're still releasing firmware updates for a device from 2013, but I'm not complaining
clear ferry
Planned non-obsolecense
deft pewter
Random stupid question of the day (I'm not counting my VPN questions as stupid)... once I've changed my network settings in /etc/network/interfaces on Linux, how do I apply the changes without rebooting the host?
sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart?
dusky plank
yep, or systemctl
deft pewter
Wish me luck! 🤔
dusky plank
hah, It messed up my systems too often, still needed a reboot but yeah, good luck mono 😉
deft pewter
Well I know it applied the changes cos my HA running under Proxmox just lost connection 😄
Bad news: I can't connect to the Proxmox UI on the new address
scenic radish
Let us know if your networking changed to notworking
deft pewter
Restart time then 😄
dusky plank
exactly
deft pewter
Didn't mess with anything crazy, just changed the fixed IP and gateway IP.
clear ferry
ALSO WHERE IS MY INTEGRATION @deft pewter
dusky plank
yep, thats enough to make it crap its pants
deft pewter
I know you don't like Proxmox, atx... I don't have my entire country's network infrastructure running in my basement 😉
deft pewter
I'm using an old HP workstation as a home server for now.
scenic radish
Doesn't really matter what @clear ferry likes
hearty depot
@deft pewter I think proxmox is debian based and got networkmanager
nmtui could be to your liking
green inlet
That’s one of my favorite things to do. Change something that makes your network totally unreachable.
Favorite as in 🤢
deft pewter
Does that require a desktop environment? I think I can only get to a command line at the moment.
hearty depot
nope cli tool
deft pewter
command not found 😄
hearty depot
apt search nmtui
deft pewter
I've switched the interface to dhcp for now, managed to get to the web UI
Unsure why the same settings didn't work for static 🤷♂️
scenic radish
Static IPs 🤢
deft pewter
I want a static IP for things I access by IP
I hate mDNS and I'm not going to use nginx for this since it's what hosts HA, which hosts nginx... 🤣
Yes, horrible setup.
hearty depot
look how nice nmtui does that for you
clear ferry
Did someone say mdns
hearty depot
big fan
deft pewter
That nmtui actually looks pretty good. I'll try to remember it for the next time I need to change network config.
hearty depot
bigger fan of sysconfig/network-scripts but thats RH world only
green inlet
Ip reservation for the win
deft pewter
I'll probably add DHCP reservation for this device now that it's switched over. I've been migrating things to a new ISP router (🤢)
hearty depot
you could try to set the isp router to SU or single user mode and use your own NW gear
deft pewter
I'd considered setting it to modem-only mode, yes. But it's not actually too bad for an ISP-supplied router. Pretty good wireless signal and I don't care about advanced features.
Only thing I use that the commoners don't is DHCP res.
hearty depot
after getting the router changed like 4 times in 1 !/" years I just got a cheap flashable router and go for ddwrt. crazy A1 dudes - and I dont trust them - they should stay out of my net
dusky plank
I was so happy to get rid of telekom austria
hearty depot
where you at now?
dusky plank
local isp, still austria 😛
hearty depot
aah good old days, where at chiemgau net 100 years ago
dusky plank
it's 200/40 for 25€, not bad I guess
dusky plank
in vienna? 👀
hearty depot
yep 9th district
haha got a call from them because I uploaded so much data (2 TB )
Wanted to offer me a better faster contract, I had to tell them that they cant because the line is so old
dusky plank
mhmmm copper lines
hearty depot
DSL in 2020 🤢
dusky plank
you know, we live in forest cities
deft pewter
hearty depot
with explosive trees
deft pewter
It's taking longer to upload a Debian image to my Proxmox host than it did to download the image from the interwebs... 🥱
clear ferry
dusky plank
dusky plank
firefox shows a red panda though
deft pewter
I always thought they didn't do well with captivity
subtle pasture
Not a great housepet, mostly due to their musk...
forest edge
no animal does really
deft pewter
What about my musk?
subtle pasture
Kinda like ferrets. If you keep a fox indoors, your whole house will smell like fox
forest edge
dogs and cats do to a point only because of breeding
I had ferrets, they are not as bad as some people say. not to mention a quick wipe down with a wet wipe once a day and you can't even smell them and that's no fragrant wipes
subtle pasture
I dunno man, every time I've been in a house with ferrets the whole place smells (and the owners claim to not smell anything)
forest edge
likely cause they didn't tend to them on a daily basis
deft pewter
The owners just get used to it. It's really obvious to guests.
forest edge
litter box smells too if not emptied on a regular basis..
deft pewter
Cats aren't exactly smelly... but if I'm away from home for a few days, I'll still notice the smell when I return.
forest edge
I think dogs smell worse than ferrets
but then i took care of mine
people who are allergic to cats yet still end up having one crack me up
deft pewter
✋
forest edge
lol
deft pewter
To be fair, I didn't have a choice... I'm married, she gets what she wants.
subtle pasture
My girlfriend's ex-wife did that... she's allergic to dogs, immediately got a purse-dog after the divorce
We worry about her sometimes...
forest edge
it's always one reason or another heh
scenic radish
To be fair, I didn't have a choice... I'm married, she gets what she wants.
Sounds unhealthy
clever mortar
I'm allergic to dogs. We're a dog house...
subtle pasture
(w)oof
clever mortar
Thankfully it's not a full blown reaction to all dogs, the reaction is stronger in some types than others
bitter pawn
ferrets smell HORRIBLE if you dont take care of them
a friend of mine had a few
wouldnt clean them or clean up after them at all
their apt smelled so bad
i only went there twice. never again.
scenic radish
apt clean ferret
shy comet
you have to be on top of cleaning ferrets
and also make sure they are descented lol
they have pretty horrible bathroom habits....any corner will do lol
we had one ferret who sometimes we would see move from one end of the house to the other for his litter box and other times the closest corner will do lol
when you switch them to a raw diet though its even more important to clean them daily
scenic radish
Sounds like...way too much work
shy comet
it was more than i anticipated but i love them, not sure id get more unless my son begs me when hes older
they love to steal anything and everything lol
had to repair the dishwasher once and found an ipod underneath it lol
dogs and cats constantly have their toys stolen and taken under the couch
shy comet
yea they were quick too....my wife had these tea candles on the table (not lit) and they would jump out from the couch, run accross the table, take a tea light and go back under the couch in like 2 seconds
you couldnt even reach for your phone fast enough lol
scenic radish
That's hilarious
shy comet
that was the boy...the girl was a daredevil lol....she once scaled up the back of a cabinet like the fucking swat team
like back against the cabinet and feet on wall
she would jump too
like 3-4 feet...the boy would try but since they are sexually dimorphic hes a lot bigger and bottom heavy so never made her jumps 😂
shy comet
very smart but also really dumb...theyd fall off a 10 ft building because they are excited
dusky plank
deft pewter
It'd be a real shame if the horse had kicked them in the chest for that...
clear ferry
Drug prevention posters from Norway are spot on - https://i.redd.it/oe8u5jnlu2z51.png
subtle pasture
@hushed basalt RAID6 I hope?
subtle pasture
RAID 10, then?
subtle pasture
lol
I mean, same idea. You do two stripes and mirror them
Effective fault tolerance of 1.25 drives
hushed basalt
Two mirrors that are striped, other way around,
But yeah it means I can add and replace drives in 2s instead of 6
subtle pasture
RAID 6 only requires 3 drives, technically
But you'd lose most of your storage space to parity
scenic radish
|| nerds ||
deft pewter
subtle pasture
Striped mirrors is an interesting way to do it, but no matter how many mirrors you stripe together, your fault tolerance never increases to 2 drives.
hushed basalt
Yeah but repairs are much much much faster
subtle pasture
They are, assuming the second drive in the mirror being rebuilt is perfect
Though ZFS is more tolerant of UREs than RAID, thanks to file system level parity and bit-rot correction
subtle pasture
Well yeah, I'd never run without a backup
However, I can also spare one additional drive bay to run RAID 6, which allows me to avoid restoring from backup as often 😛
hushed basalt
But if I went with raidz2 I'd have to buy 6 drives at once
subtle pasture
Why would that require 6 drive increments?
hushed basalt
It's not viable under that
subtle pasture
It should be viable down to 4 drives
hushed basalt
That's 50% utilisation though
subtle pasture
Though you lose 50% of your capacity to parity, at 4 drives
But you're already losing 50% of your capacity to parity with striped mirrors...
So no real loss there
hushed basalt
Yes but replacing a drive in a parity drive smashes your array for days, weeks
subtle pasture
But you do gain the advantage of actually having 2 drives of redundancy
subtle pasture
Hmm, shouldn't take that long to rebuild...
hushed basalt
8TBs of parity calcs is a lot
subtle pasture
I've got a Synology here with 12 drives in it, rebuilds take about 24 hours, and that's with a puny Atom CPU
hushed basalt
SHR?
hushed basalt
That's a different beast
subtle pasture
I mean, it's a lot more total parity and capacity
Is there a technical reason for ZFS rebuilds causing so much thrashing?
hushed basalt
Nothing to do with ZFS but raid 5/6
When you replace a drive you have to read from the rest of the array and perform a lot of expensive parity calculations
And if you're full and fragmented those reads will be very random and intense
subtle pasture
Right, but my rebuilds aren't taking weeks...
Also, rebuilds shouldn't care about file system fragmentation, since they're block-level
Me whenever I start considering ZFS for anything
subtle pasture
my bad 😦
forest edge
kfc? kentucky fried chicken?
why would chicken people go into that channel.. makes no sense!
hushed basalt
#saynototediore
scenic radish
😢
deft pewter
Special channel? And leave the plebeians all alone out here? 😄
Mission complete. Debian VM set up on my home server running a VPN for Jackett so I don't have to mess around with split tunneling on my main machine.
That box can worry about reaching TPB. I don't want to run extra crap on this box.
deft pewter
What do you mean?
subtle pasture
Hiding Jackett behind a VPN doesn't really do anything
deft pewter
My ISP blocks TPB. Jackett can't search if it can't reach TPB.
subtle pasture
Ah.. ISP problem, gotcha
deft pewter
😉
scenic radish
|| 😉 ||
deft pewter
I don't want my machine to have to bother with VPN at all if I can help it. Even the 'unlimited bandwidth' ones don't keep up... and DNS resolution is so slow.
subtle pasture
Comcast doesn't explicitly block anything, but they will send you a nasty letter if you torrent without a VPN
deft pewter
So Jackett is now on a VM... and my main machine grabs the torrents/NZB's
Eh... I'm sure I'll get a nasty letter if I upload anything. For the moment, downloading isn't the crime in the UK.
Sharing copyrighted media is illegal. Downloading it isn't.
subtle pasture
Newsgroups for the win, btw...
deft pewter
Yeah, I have Sonarr/Radarr set up with both newsgroups and torrents.
subtle pasture
Did you set them up to prefer NZBs over torrents?
You can actually make a rule for that so it tries newsgroups first, avoiding torrents if possible
deft pewter
Not sure which way round. Does it matter? I haven't had trouble grabbing good quality stuff.
subtle pasture
It's more about avoiding having to use bittorrent as much as possible. The same releases tend to pop up on both
deft pewter
In fact, the setting I forgot about (max file size) meant I was getting stuff which was too high quality.
Ah... default is 'prefer usenet' anyway. I'm not going to add a delay to that since I've been happy with the torrent stuff.
subtle pasture
Yeah, took me a minute to remember where the setting was. lol
It's a delay profile
deft pewter
Yup. Found that. I vaguely remembered seeing it somewhere.
shy comet
thasts a really important setting lol
one thing to keep in mind with usenet is server propagtion which can take up to 30 min or so ive seen
deft pewter
Well a few hours ago, it wouldn't have mattered what it was set to. I couldn't reach TPB anyway 🤣
Oh... propagation makes sense. I tried something earlier that kept saying 'not on your server'
shy comet
ive seen cases wehre redownloading a file once its 30 min old results in it not missing files
tahts probably retention
deft pewter
Nah, new stuff, not ancient 😉
deft pewter
I think NZBGeek is something like 4200 days now, right? Pretty sure Star Trek: Discovery is going to be there.
shy comet
my personal combo for providers is frugal and news group direct
indexer is different than provider in terms of retention i thought?
shy comet
haha
shy comet
oh teh actual newsgroups i dont do lol.....i was meaning the providers itself that you pay for to gain access
i beleive thats where the indexers come into play which is why i ahve so many because they all have shared and different content
i wish there was one that scoured them all
deft pewter
But even that isn't easy... you have to know that there are indexers and there are providers... and access is often purchased separately... and the tools aren't just 'plug and play'.
shy comet
yea they take some setup
deft pewter
I'm pretty tech savvy and I still wasn't clear on all the steps to begin with.
deft pewter
Yeah, I'm pleased with it now that it's running. Just don't ask me to explain it to anyone else.
shy comet
and i didnt realize how much i struggled until i had to walk a friend through waht i did lol
im a fan of Organizr too when it comes to keeping them all in one place
deft pewter
This? https://organizr.app/
shy comet
yup
deft pewter
Installing it now, will check it out.
shy comet
i love the calendar feature on the home page
has some great ombi integration too
it actually searches plex and ombi and tells them if its on the server
kinda cool it lets u use the webapp for plex too
not as friendly as mobile but its free lol
deft pewter
Oh... I have to host Organizr? I'm not setting that up tonight then 😄
shy comet
hahahah
deft pewter
I was hoping it'd be a Windows service like all the other media apps.
fickle relic
Is running HA on a VM still supported?
velvet horizonBOT
fickle relic
Sorry
shy comet
if you run nginx on windows it can be @deft pewter thats my current setup at least lol
just needed to add some nginx rules for it and keep it at root
bronze patio
https://canyouseeme.org/ says ports 443 and 8123 are closed. Can this info be trusted? Can port forwarding still be done?
deft pewter
Smells like a support question
bronze patio
where should I go, mono?
deft pewter
To a support channel. Read the topics and pick one that sounds relevant.
scenic radish
#general-archived probably for something like that
deft pewter
@shy comet I'd still need to either run Docker or even Apache locally though, right? Docker on Windows is a PITA and I don't have a web service running.
shy comet
yea you would for this
deft pewter
Might put it on the Debian VM I just set up tonight... I'll have a proper read another day.
shy comet
when you get tired of switching between tabs or are bored and want to setup a different dashboard for plex youll have a crack at it lol
deft pewter
Yeah, it looks a really clever idea. I've seen similar for bringing all your work apps (Teams/Slack/Outlook/etc) into a dashboard too.
tbh, I just close my tabs most of the time now unless I'm adding a new series.
shy comet
there were some others like muximux and Heimdall but this one has features in its own asides from keeping it all together
i keep HA and Organizr as pinned tabs since i use them frequently
deft pewter
If I set it up, it'll probably end up pinned. I just got bored of having Plex/Radarr/Sonarr/Lidarr/SABnzbd/etc all open all the time.
Now they're bookmarked in a folder together for when I want them.
shy comet
yea so you can actualy keep them open or close the tabs as you see fit, kinda cool
hell you can even have HA in it too
i find it nice to only need 1 URL
with a different admin/user view is an added bonus
light trout
You could run it as an addon, with ingress, and add HA to it, then you can access HA through it through HA
orchid night
sounds like an avocado thing
deft pewter
You've convinced me. I'll install it tomorrow. But now, sleep! 👋
hearty depot
avocado or rather guacamole?
that looks interesing with guacamole
https://hub.docker.com/r/x11docker/gnome
weeekend project!!!
golden steeple
Is anyone having problems adjusting their brightness via Alexa (emulated hue)?
scenic radish
#integrations-archived @golden steeple
velvet horizonBOT
golden steeple
Ok, sorry
scenic radish
All good
shy comet
awesome resident evil 1-3 finally in 4k and in Atmos 😄 i hope they did the bird scene in #3 justice
tidal bronze
@shy comet anything on Greenland?
shy comet
i saw a 1080 earlier that radarr thought was a sample lol
hollow glacier
blame shitty scene groups and breaking naming convention
shy comet
@tidal bronze ^
hollow glacier
not radarr
shy comet
@hollow glacier in this case it was a valid file name at 7gb
scenic radish
ok so i've been trying to figure out why my new display has this weird ghosting issue with black-on-white text, and it's because it has some terrible setting called Overdrive™️ enabled by default
shy comet
Greenland.2020.1080p.WEB-DL.H264.DDP5.1-EVO.mkv
scenic radish
and FreeSync™️®️
shy comet
@hollow glacier its not a file size minimum its part of radarrs sample check i think
hollow glacier
ah
shy comet
i adjust my file size minimums to acount for the fakes though lol
hollow glacier
i use a private tracker
shy comet
i went as far as adding xvid as a blocked one
usenet here
maxes out my fiber all the time lol
hollow glacier
eh
i use pia vpn
havent switched to wireguard yet
or moved from pia
so it doesnt saturate my symmetrical ftth
i can do this tho
😛
scenic radish
1ms ping, holy shit
shy comet
i got ATT here so im around 2-4ms typically
scenic radish
i get ~14ms on comcast internet (coax), not too shabby
hollow glacier
i think i'm like 3-4 hops before i get on a giant pipe
5 hops to exit frontier :/
scenic radish
pictures of text 🤢
scenic radish
hollow glacier
you want me to pipe powershell to a text file and then upload that to a pastebin
for 2 lines of a tracert?
scenic radish
it also seems like more work to not just copy/paste
hollow glacier
i like snips
scenic radish
lol yup, that's a good one
unfortunately external emoji are disabled on this server...
hollow glacier
it's from the big homelab discord if you want to visit on web
and steal it
i'm too lazy to do it for you
scenic radish
data hoarding/homelab ?
scenic radish
I guess only the ||b||admins can
hollow glacier
radmins amirite
forest edge
Tediore does not have the powa!
scenic radish
'pparently not
forest edge
Hall Monitor!
scenic radish
Basically
hollow glacier
well
in their defense, a proper discord server setup includes only giving certain roles certain permissions vs all or none
like going up a ladder and getting new perms at each step and only those perms
forest edge
off with his head!
clear ferry
last cedar
Well yes
Seems Sweden has admitted messing up, will be interesting to see if we are to do anything more than wash our hands.
clear ferry
Just finish moving Kiruna already
last cedar
Well, as much as they dare
odd kindle
To be fair, I think all sides have had it very wrong in terms of Sweden (saying this as a swede that think our gov have let us down)
most reporting around sweden have been very skewed one way or another
last cedar
I think we have been let down too.
odd kindle
where you at?
odd kindle
ouch 😦 yeah hard times
last cedar
Gonna ask at work if there are other places I can move to
But yeah, the whole situation sucks.
odd kindle
what do you do?
last cedar
Alarms, camera, door entry systems
I don't get a bad wage, just everything is obscenely expensive here
clear ferry
I still remember growing up in Norway in the 90s where we didn't even lock the doors or cars, not anymore 🤣
last cedar
Mostly alarm services on older obscure systems. I do all the odd stuff that others can't
Oh yeah for sure
The latest trend are people stealing things from bikes
odd kindle
oh cool, the fun part of tech 🙂
last cedar
Whilst they are ridden
clear ferry
Wtf
clear ferry
I remember riding a bike, in 2003 👀
clear ferry
Had to check, Google maps says roughly 4 hours by bike to the office
clear ferry
I can't believe I would manage that though
Probably closer to 6
My furthest away regular customer would be 51 hours by bike it says 🥳
odd kindle
so... my parents used to complain about my grand-parents being backwards, not wanting a credit-card. Not wanting a mikro and so on. Was very against the internet.
Now my parents are doing exactly the same thing...
odd kindle
I've been trying to tell them, they don't respond well to me doing so...
turbid stirrup
Latest trends in the NL is people flipping over cars to steal the carburator
clear ferry
I wanted to become a carburettor thief when I had to replace the ones on my V6 Audi
Each was €900 and I needed two
But I got a hold of a used complete exhaust system for €100
ashen mica
He guys 🙂 new to HA. it's running on my rasp3 witht that docker installation. The discord list ont he left is really big. Where can I start for the security/add eWelink devices :)?
clear ferry
That would be #integrations-archived
And for install problems refer to your installation method @ashen mica
velvet horizonBOT
ashen mica
Oke thanks!
mighty summit
So, I've just been told by a HA dev on github to stop using HaOS and switch to containerized install instead. Because HaOS networking is broken beyond repair.
I feel so very frustrated.
deft pewter
That's nice.
mighty summit
yea, init
velvet horizonBOT
mighty summit
not asking support. The Lounge ain't for support.
deft pewter
At best, your comments belong in #general-archived. Ideally, go rant on the forums.
mighty summit
That's nice.
#general-archived being part of support is most certainly not the right place.
deft pewter
Discussions/complaints about the merits of installation types are support discussions.
last cedar
No, it doesn't
last cedar
You are dreaming
deft pewter
But if it ever breaks and I want to cry about it, I'll cry in a support channel.
last cedar
Wake up mono
clear ferry
last cedar
My dream is to own a whole container full of trash
clear ferry
No you can't have america @last cedar
last cedar
Oooooh
clear ferry
last cedar
Shots fired
deft pewter
atx hath spoketh the truth
last cedar
Challenge accepted
deft pewter
You know half the challenge would be making sure other students don't drop your grade to make theirs appear better...
clear ferry
deft pewter
Give yourself full marks, give them zero marks, improve the security to lock everyone else out...
Just a race to see who gets there first.
Speaking of security... I'm about to save a password in cleartext 😄
clear ferry
What do you mean you don't store your .priv keys on a smb share? That your colleagues can access
deft pewter
You assume people know what keys are...
I keep having to tell other devs in my department to use SSH instead of passwords for git and other remote tasks.
Apparently they LOVE typing in passwords all the time and having to change things every time the admins make us refresh a password.
deft pewter
I like the idea but I'm not sure our IT would.
clear ferry
They should
deft pewter
I know they should but they're luddites.
FTSE100 company... not exactly the most progressive or adaptive people.
last cedar
Is that zz top?
last cedar
Sweeeeet
last cedar
Depends
Also could be awkward if you were wearing certain underwear
Or no underwear
clear ferry
My sisters old boyfriend used to wear jeans with no underwear
More then once he had balls over cock
And I heard the screams
deft pewter
Wearing jeans is sweaty enough on humid days anyway. I can't imagine not having some good underwear underneath.
More then once he had balls over cock
@clear ferry 'balls over cock' 🤣 First time I've heard that, I love it.
green inlet
I am currently wearing jeans without any underwear.
clear ferry
I'm surprised you even wear jeans
green inlet
You know me all too well
clear ferry
green inlet
I tried, but the people in the waiting room of the Toyota dealer became enraged.
green inlet
Apparently no shoes, no shirt, no service is all a BIG LIE.
dusky plank
austria has now the highest rate of confirmed cases in the world 💪 🇦🇹
last cedar
No underwear is pretty good tbh
scenic radish
What about chest hair @last cedar ?
last cedar
No chest hair is the best chest hair
scenic radish
We could never get married
last cedar
I only am into women, so it isn't usually a problem that comes up for me
last cedar
Oh wow, that escalated quickly
deft pewter
|| And me being engaged ||
@scenic radish There's still time
last cedar
Your fiancé doesn't need to know
scenic radish
Lmao
last cedar
As long as you have a hairy chest, you are immune to the offection of others, anyway
deft pewter
I've always assumed, so should probably ask... Tediore - are you a guy?
scenic radish
Yes ma'am
deft pewter
Well congratulations to you and the lucky fella.
scenic radish
Thanks! She's taken it harder than me that we've had to significantly change our wedding plans because of covid, but...what can you do
deft pewter
Oh... it's a lady? 😄
last cedar
You can do like all the cool kids and have your wedding become a super spreader
deft pewter
Michelle said it was a man.
last cedar
I did no such thing
deft pewter
Your fiancé doesn't need to know
@last cedar Sure you did
scenic radish
got em on a technicality
last cedar
Yes
deft pewter
These two words are borrowed directly from French, in which language they have equivalent but gendered meanings: fiancé refers to a man who is engaged to be married, and fiancée refers to a woman.
deft pewter
So many people don't pay attention to the spelling difference since English speakers don't have to care about gendered nouns.
last cedar
😂
scenic radish
Well her legal name is Andy, so that could cause confusion initially
deft pewter
It's forgivable... I just like to point it out 🙂
last cedar
Good catch though
Sorry for any inconvenience caused by making everyone question your sexuality
deft pewter
Swedish is gendered, right?
orchid rose
two genders ye
deft pewter
No neuter?
orchid rose
nope
scenic radish
Lmao @last cedar
deft pewter
Do you have cases?
last cedar
Unfortunately they deny the existance of non binary individuals
last cedar
We tried to get it though the courts I think, but got shot down
deft pewter
Not those cases 🤦♂️
tame sand
so can only be male/female in sweden?
last cedar
I believe so yes
orchid rose
mono, I'm not much of a linguist but they have less than german
deft pewter
Well to be fair, the official stuff only matters for medical matters, right? You're still free to choose your lifestyle and how you identify.
tame sand
in Germany there is the option divers or in english various / miscellaneous
for your passport
deft pewter
Mr K - I tried learning Polish once. It's an interesting language but very tricky grammar. 7 cases and 3 genders. 
scenic radish
Yes, biological sex is important to know in the medical field despite what certain people think
deft pewter
Yup. And that's the bit people don't want to talk about. It's all about feelings but people forget about the science.
I'm all for people living how they want as long as their choices don't negatively affect others. But they still need to have their medical records up to date in case they need treatment.
scenic radish
Hey, my ancestors are Polish!
deft pewter
Hey, my ancestors are Polish!
@scenic radish My condolences.
last cedar
Mine too Tediore
scenic radish
My last name means otter in Polish 🤦♂️
orchid rose
I'll teach you some Finnish then mono. How would you like some 15 cases?
deft pewter
I've never learned any but I think the history of the Finno-Ugric languages is amazing.
Geographically distant but so similar.
orchid rose
There's some speculation that it predates the other european languages which is why it's so spread out
scenic radish
I think the history of you is fascinating @deft pewter 🥰
orchid rose
there's also basque which is weird
last cedar
Yes, the system needs an overhaul though, we have gendered personal numbers. It creates problems if you change your gender on paper. You end up with a new identity basically. It isn't a fun process.
orchid rose
Sorry 👀
last cedar
@scenic radish "Wydra"?
deft pewter
Lutra 😉
I don't remember if gender matters when we're assigned our 'national insurance' numbers here. I suspect not... but they stay with you for life anyway.
Now we only need his first name and we can dox him...
scenic radish
Lmao
last cedar
I don't think it is gendered
scenic radish
Look at my GitHub son
last cedar
The NI number
velvet horizonBOT
tame sand
the commit messages 😂
deft pewter
Fine, dox yourself. Take allllll of the fun out of the process.
scenic radish
Glad you like that @tame sand lol
deft pewter
I have to balance my sarcasm and professionalism in my commit messages. Unfortunately, the business insist on them making sense 😦
scenic radish
Boo
tame sand
normally i give commits serious messages in case i need to roll back or smth... but i love messing with release names/notes
light trout
you roll back with the sha anyway 🤷♂️
deft pewter
If I do silly stuff, it's in the branch names. Great fun when someone sees the PR.
scenic radish
eggplant
deft pewter
Had to do a bug fix for something where the same user could have two processes going in different tabs and the outcome wasn't... right. Branch name 'when_two_tabs_go_to_war'
scenic radish
tab-o-war
deft pewter
Yours is good too. But I know the guy reviewing my PR would love the Frankie Goes To Hollywood pun.
deft pewter
I'm sorry, I draw the line at fighting old men.
deft pewter
Woah... I thought we at least pretended to keep it PG in here?
deft pewter
The fulcrum is in the wrong place for maximum compresion. Rookies.
You still have to apply exactly the same amount of force as you would doing it by hand 🤦♂️
dull chasm
by hand.....i see @clear ferry the expert here
with consulting fees coming from @scenic radish
clear ferry
@deft pewter I have never been Pg, if anything I'm extra nonpg
clear ferry
You keep posting a lot of self portraits
forest edge
yea portraits of yourself
deft pewter
That is indeed what the 'self' refers to 🤣
shrewd oasis
Hello everyone. Quick questions. How do you guys have your views set up? like 1 per room? 1 per topic as in lights, acs, fans? or another way? Thanks
velvet horizonBOT
deft pewter
I suggest asking in #frontend-archived
deft pewter
It's about 'how do/should I do X in HA?' 🤷♂️
This channel's just for hanging out and shitposting.
shrewd oasis
ok
shrewd oasis
haha
scenic radish
"are ya winning son?"
hollow glacier
that was what i was going for
scenic radish
O
hollow glacier
didnt feel right to respond to myself with another gif/meme hah
waits impatiently on a power supply for a rgb led strip
i didnt want to pay $2.99 for 8am overnight delivery
bastards.
scenic radish
Is it an RGB power supply?
deft pewter
atx communicates mostly in gifs, even when it's a monologue. Don't be afraid to do it yourself 😄
clever mortar
clear ferry
orchid rose
good lord
clear ferry
https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-lawdamercy-lord-have-mercy-dave-chapelle-surprised-gif-5949259
hollow glacier
Any meat lovers around?
I keep telling myself I’ll try to make beef Wellington and end up cutting it into steaks
hollow glacier
You assuming someone is gonna ask about eating my meat?
deft pewter
@clear ferry loves meat
clear ferry
If it is raw
last cedar
Yeh, raw meat
deft pewter
Unwrapped, eh?
last cedar
Wrapped in fur
deft pewter
Mmm, hairy chests
hollow glacier
Not anymore it’s not
hollow glacier
I don’t think the USDA certifies prime coon filet
green inlet
You are letting me down @clear ferry
green inlet
@last cedar , do you also eat raw meat?
north pumice
thanks
last cedar
Whatever I can find
north pumice
setting it up for a family member and was wondering what hardware I needed to get
hollow glacier
Use an SSD in a usb 3 enclosure and a pi4
clear ferry
Anything that can run python or docker, preferably not a pi
tame sand
why not a pi? lol
hollow glacier
Don’t listen to him
last cedar
A basic NUC might not be too stupid
clear ferry
I have standards
green inlet
I mean your human self, not your alter ego.
hollow glacier
Pi4 * ssd works fine
tame sand
yes
north pumice
why does it require a SSD? it's for like, 5 lights
deft pewter
Raccoons don't have human selves
tame sand
i had it running pi plus sd card and it worked without any hickups
north pumice
yolos
hollow glacier
Cuz webui is slow without it
clear ferry
Then you don't need home assistant @north pumice
north pumice
yes I do
hollow glacier
And fuck slow webuis
last cedar
@deft pewter I do have a human shelf though
clear ferry
You are adding unneeded complexity to poor purchase choices then @north pumice
tame sand
@clear ferry well what do you recommend?
hollow glacier
I run mine in a VM on my server but setup my buddy with a pi4 and ssd and that shit Was quick
last cedar
Atx recommendeds raw meat
clear ferry
@tame sand any server, laptop or minicomputer from the last 10 years mostly
tame sand
and a hpc container lol
north pumice
nothing is as small as an rpi and we travel a lot (not now cus covid, but you get the point)
clear ferry
A lot of things are as small as a pi
clear ferry
Cheap != Good
tame sand
has someone tried running homeassistant core on a esp32 🤔
north pumice
it just has to work/be relatively stable
I'd splurge if I could, but it's not my budget
hollow glacier
So no microSD
hollow glacier
walks away to talk to his meat
clear ferry
Meh, my minicomputer with celeron and SSD was $100ish, a pi4 with SSD is easily that with extras
clear ferry
Buying five new light switches can be had for the same price probably
last cedar
IMO a pi is fantastic for playing, experimenting. And maybe ultra low power stuff like say a smart mirror. But yeah, there are many alternatives for similar or not much more money
north pumice
hahahahaha okay, I'll grab a pi4b then
north pumice
I mean, I have a home server + pi4b + 2 laptops so I completely agree with "fuck underpowered hardware" but like I said, not my budget unfortunately
last cedar
Why do you think they are called raspberry
tame sand
so bananapi tastes good aswell?
last cedar
Snuppy. Give it a shot. You might be perfectly happy with a 4b
north pumice
I wonder how the other SBCs' software support are (banana, rock, odroid)
last cedar
NO_ONE. Only if you like banana
tame sand
north pumice
hah, so poor
last cedar
I personally don't like the consistancy of banana
But whatever goats your float
I do however have 3 pis :/
north pumice
they're great for low powered NAS servers
north pumice
I'm have plans to set one up as a travel router too
Snuppy, I have a "low power" 4U NAS being built atm
@last cedar well lower than low power then, heh
north pumice
I thought it was super cool you could buy a power bank with a UPS function for $30 and use it as a UPS for the pi https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1603035
last cedar
Yeah, that looks very very nice tbh :)
north pumice
a travel router I can bring with me everywhere so I have a VPN'd connection on all my devices at hotels etc
last cedar
Sounds lovely tbh :)
clear ferry
Eh, no need for a travel VPN, just auto connect via wireguard whenever I connect to non home network
hollow glacier
I think if I traveled enough to need a router to s2s vpn I’d rethink my life choices that led me there
north pumice
right, when I travel with others and they go "Snuupy why can't I access netflix but why can you"
hollow glacier
That sounds terrible
north pumice
and I have to set them up with a wg profile and install a .conf and a wg installer
and that's the easy mode, what if i need to use v2ray or trojan-gfw because UDP is blocked
easier just to say "connect to this wifi network"
I think if I traveled enough to need a router to s2s vpn I’d rethink my life choices that led me there
@hollow glacier I used to live in a diff city every 4 months for work/school
I'd travel to diff cities for hackathons every month or so too
hollow glacier
Nomad life not for me
north pumice
don't blame you, it's a temporary circumstance
clear ferry
I had a job offer like that, I turned it down
north pumice
it's built into my school system, work 4 months, study 4, etc
hollow glacier
Weird
north pumice
no debt on graduation, I'll take it
clear ferry
School 😴
north pumice
it's called a co-op program here
I'd study in Ottawa work SF bay area, back and forth every 4 months
it was exhausting
clear ferry
Also, just free education for everyone 🥳
hollow glacier
Happiness underrated, money overrated
north pumice
eh, I loved it, learned a bunch that I otherwise wouldn't have had I been more comfortable temporarily
hollow glacier
My whole family moved from Dallas to the bay
I went there for a few months
People are shit
You really grow to appreciate southern hospitality when it’s gone
Absent
north pumice
I know what you mean, I've never been to dallas though
hollow glacier
Dallas is a shithole same as all big cities
north pumice
when I travelled to Denver and Raleigh after my internships I found those cities much better to live in (although obv lower salaries)
hollow glacier
But suburbs are nice
My brother started a redwood slab company in the bay
If anyone needs wood
I like Colorado but idk if I’d live there
I’ve never had to live in freezing temps and snow
north pumice
I really liked Raleigh but the food was so much worse
hollow glacier
Only vacation
north pumice
ah, that's me every year cus Canadia
I grew up in it
I hate crazy heat
I like San Jose temperate weather a lot but I hate the CoL there
north pumice
Raleigh was a very nice balance for me
no asian food makes me sad though
the top rated sushi place had the worst salmon, it was frozen on the inside when I went
wind pelican
Sup folks
hollow glacier
Funny thing about my back jewelz
wind pelican
Hqd to take a hiatus, moved into a new place and went through some stuff about the ex
hollow glacier
That’s not fun at all
We’re here for a good time not a long time
Cheer up and consume product bro
hollow glacier
Lol
wind pelican
Anyone have a suggestion for whole home audio? Trying to find a decent solution for playing <x>source to <y> zone
wind pelican
I guess its essentially what sonos does, but using home-assistant
hollow glacier
You can do wireless with Sonos and shit
Yeah
But remember this is lounge
Prob will have better luck in another Chan
wind pelican
Jusy looking for suggestions, not really assistance
hollow glacier
I’ve noticed they’re mostly treated the same lol
wind pelican
Freaking google, i found a suggestion:
https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2016/02/18/multi-room-audio-with-snapcast/
wind pelican
According to a further search it looks like its still being used
deft pewter
One of the many advantages of being a raccoon.