Under EU law, within the legal guarantee period of two years, defective products must be repaired or replaced without any cost to the consumer.
#the-water-cooler
deft pewter
orchid rose
Quick google search found a news story from 2016 where the consumer ombudsman decided that a 159€ phone should have worked for more than 2½ years
dusky plank
they already include "wearing electronics", so for batteries its minimum 6 months or sth
deft pewter
'legal guarantee period'
There's also the concept of consumer rights. This is where it varies, the UK will hear cases up to 5 years.
But warranties are clear cut. 2 years.
deft pewter
Sure... the European Union website: https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guarantees-returns/faq/index_en.htm#:~:text=Under EU law%2C within the,This includes any shipping costs.&text=In this case%2C you may,agrees that it was defective.
Doesn't get much more authoritative than that 😉
orchid rose
After 6 months, you can still hold the seller responsible for any defects up to the end of the two-year guarantee period. However, the seller can ask you to prove that the defect existed when your goods were delivered. This is often difficult, and you will may have to involve a technical expert.
deft pewter
Realistically, they'll never contest it.
orchid rose
I wouldn't be so sure
deft pewter
There's also the expectation that modern goods last well more than 2 years, else they simply weren't well-made.
deft pewter
For something to develop a defect inside 2 years suggests the manufacturing was subpar.
clear ferry
Including hard drives too
orchid rose
But legally they can fight you for it so it's not guaranteed by law then
deft pewter
Anecdotally, I've never had a seller refuse a repair/return inside the warranty period.
orchid rose
Well most often you get the same length of warranty from the manufacturer anyway so it's pretty clear
But I would expect it to become an issue in some cases
deft pewter
And that's where it sometimes gets tricky... if the seller and manufacturer offer different terms.
I've heard of people being passed around between seller and manufacturer to find a resolution.
orchid rose
Yeah happens a lot
deft pewter
You'll hear about it a lot. Always do with negative stuff.
What you don't hear are all the millions of easy returns.
orchid rose
Oh sure, I'm not saying that the system is broken or anything like that
But it can be confusing in some cases
deft pewter
But yeah... this is why I said use a chargeback. UK law (and I guess EU law) is pretty handy... if you tell your credit card issuer to open a dispute with the seller, it's between them two now.
Technically, your credit card issuer was the one that bought the goods. Their problem.
orchid rose
Honestly everything I have bought recently has worked so well that I've stopped caring about all that really
Unless it comes defected which sometimes still happens
clear ferry
Yeah, I haven't had a dispute with a seller about goods within 5 years since.... Ever
deft pewter
Because the good ones care about their reputation more than they do about a small payout.
They stand to lose way more from bad publicity.
vital fjord
@wild grove Tekton Lores
wild grove
ok cool, ill have to look them up
vital fjord
Gorgeous speaker, great sound
scenic radish
You should 📎 it up
vital fjord
wild grove
ive seen pipedreams with lots of tweeters but woogh
wild grove
is that corrugated metal acting as a diffuser, or did you rob a chipotle? wouldnt it ring a lot?
vital fjord
hahahah
It's a light fixture, actually
Probably the most successful piece I've made in here
And it was like 2 hours work
orchid rose
am I the only one triggered by the placement of the woofer above the tweeter?
vital fjord
Supposedly helps with time sync
wild grove
all depends on the room
orchid rose
not sure I get it but okay
vital fjord
Yeah, me neither. But these were all the rage among audiophiles like 7 years ago, so 🤷
wild grove
his loudspeaker should be full frequency so the sub xover should be set low enough that it has no particular source to the listener.
vital fjord
I'm just like "they make noise be good in my ear places"
wild grove
ear holes is the technical term
vital fjord
Yep
orchid rose
I don't mean the subwoofer, I mean the woofer on the speaker
It's suboptimal anyway to have multiple sound sources
wild grove
ah, yeah thats odd - dont see that a lot
orchid rose
I'm sure you can come up with reasons for it, but it looks weird when you're used to it being the other way around
wild grove
it makes them top heavy so they fall on kids and pets easier?
shy comet
highs, mids and lows @orchid rose not really suboptimal there
orchid rose
you'll have combing (right term?) no matter what if you have more than one speaker
vital fjord
Luckily, I'm relatively new to this "giving a shit" about speakers thing so to me it's just ear gravy
shy comet
different woofers produce different frequencies and some of which are reserved for towers and sound better.....a real sub is meant for those lower frequencies like 90hz and below
@vital fjord same here i just bought a bunch of Klipsch speakers when Frys has their weekly 50% off sale lol
tower speakers are hands down the best purchase for audio
i was shocked at how much of a difference it provided
vital fjord
Yeah, I almost went Klipsch for my center
But then I bought into all the timbre hype
shy comet
do you got an atmos setup?
vital fjord
Here's the creator of the Tektons talking about the speakers, if anyone cares: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-tLe3rbPyQ
wild grove
decent speakers properly placed in room is an awesome.
vital fjord
Not sure if he goes into the design of subs on top
wild grove
i would strongly recommend you look at room treatments
vital fjord
do you got an atmos setup?
@shy comet Yep!
deft pewter
Does the pothos not ruin the acoustics?#
wild grove
- room dimensions, 2) room treatments, 3) speaker placement are the order I would prioritize the things for a good sounding setup. then you can worry about things like eq to correct the first 3 things then gear is after that
vital fjord
Currently only a 5.1.2, but once the Denon that gives me 4 ceiling speakers drops in price I'll upgrade
shy comet
@wild grove the nice part about 3d audio is part 3 isnt important anymore
because it moves from channel based audio to object based
wild grove
true, my comment was more for 2 channel listening
shy comet
ooh ok
vital fjord
i would strongly recommend you look at room treatments
@wild grove Yeah, I'll definitely be looking into that. My space is just one big lofted rectangle
shy comet
@vital fjord same here 5.1.2
vital fjord
With cement floors
shy comet
ceiling speakers are directly above listening position so I set them to Top Middle
vital fjord
Yep
wild grove
i've wired for 7.2.4 does that count? 🙂
vital fjord
Mine are a few degrees forward of center
shy comet
DAMN
shy comet
i was lucky the house i moved into had ceiling speakers taht were meant to be surround but the room was odd like that so i converted it
wild grove
oh nice
vital fjord
lolol
orchid rose
My epeen is too smol here with my 5.1 lol
deft pewter
I'm about to go back down to 2.0...
wild grove
yessssssss
deft pewter
I don't do any serious listening. I'm just replacing a 16 year old surround sound set with a pair of proper bookshelf speakers for my PC.
vital fjord
Oh. Each speaker in my 5.1.2 is a soundbar, actually
wild grove
i love the feeling when listening to music and you have to double check the center is in fact not producing sound.
vital fjord
Including sub
orchid rose
so with a virtual sound system that's 5+1+2 * 7.1 = 64 channel, nice
shy comet
my wife loves me and allowed me to get a 15" woofer lol
wild grove
you mean a speaker right
shy notch
I just walk around the house with a 5 year old UE Megaboom that I bought refurbished for $60
shy comet
i love the fact that she can hear the sub as she pulls into the driveway
vital fjord
Yess
shy comet
hahah YUP
deft pewter
Hearing is just feeling with your ears 
vital fjord
actual lol
wild grove
for room treatments check out gik accoustics and realtraps . or if you diy there's a ton out there.
assuming US
wild grove
both produce a ton of good content for research too
check em out, they do prints and stuff too
deft pewter
Are room treatments like window treatments?
vital fjord
I literally don't have rooms here, so everything in the space is visible
shy notch
wild grove
i bet it sounds amzing
vital fjord
Is that yours?
shy notch
lol no, it's from GIK Acoustics website
deft pewter
Who leaves piles of books on the floor? 🤔
vital fjord
Hahah
shy comet
hahah
shy notch
I don't have a house 🤔
last cedar
Looks nice anyway
vital fjord
Okay good. Now I can be judgey about the lighting
orchid rose
Most people wouldn't have that in their home but it probably sounds pretty good
wild grove
that looks like a studio
vital fjord
I don't have a house 🤔
Quick! Someone buy a nabucasa subscription so balloob can eat!
shy notch
Buying food from all the conference ticket sales
vital fjord
Nice plug
wild grove
that reminds me i need to get my ticket
orchid rose
my biggest issue is that the room is not symmetrical. Makes it sound like crap whatever I do so I just gave up
wild grove
ok nevermind, not attending. i can't tab between fields on the register a login form
vital fjord
lol
deft pewter
I even have a hopin account now. Literally just finished another conference using it 😄
wild grove
Reverse Engineering a 433MHz RF Protocol < fun!
deft pewter
It there a way to view the schedule as tracks?
last cedar
@orchid rose simple solution
headphones
Sound great in every room!
vital fjord
Oh boy. Here we go.
deft pewter
Can that link be pinned over in #763741683023216680 too? 🙂
orchid rose
tru, but I don't know why it just isn't the same for movies etc
last cedar
Headphones and a subwoofer? 😂
wild grove
@orchid rose treatments can help address lack of symmetry
shy notch
@deft pewter it's in the topic there. Both Hopin and the official landing page should contain the schedule, it's being worked on
Not by my obv, I am in #the-water-cooler
deft pewter
I saw the link to the conference itself. I meant a link directly to the schedule.
orchid rose
paperclip, the issue is the reflections are lopsided and there's no easy way to fix that
deft pewter
But if it's being worked on still, that's cool
wild grove
if you can tame the first reflection points i would hope it would help a good bit
vocal mauve
Caught this monster on my camera last night. Anyone got any ideas?
wild grove
cat
vital fjord
lol
vocal mauve
Has some evil eyes
shy notch
Hamburglar
vital fjord
Definitely a waffle iron
wild grove
racoon
deft pewter
Looks like @last cedar
wild grove
but not a Belgian waffle iron, just a regular
dusky plank
its @last cedar
vocal mauve
He was quicc
vital fjord
Oh, definitely not a belgian.
wild grove
i caved and used the mouse to switch between fields - Event starting in 4 weeks 2 days - woot woot
wild grove
"those are are balls"
vital fjord
LOL
I'm imagining that spoken in TTS
[Those are the.... beep boop whirr zip... balls.]
dusky plank
you do image to speak now?
vital fjord
Ha. Oh that would be very bad idea.
vital fjord
Ice Cream.
vital fjord
🤦♂️
deft pewter
Hey... at least I didn't pick the aubergine gif.
vital fjord
lol, very true. I bow to your good taste
shy notch
thanks for the money @wild grove
dusky plank
scenic radish
Wait @wild grove is giving away money? I'll take some pls
wild grove
Hey now...
scenic radish
HEY EVERYONE
wild grove
I think I can deduct the conference on my taxes as a charity
scenic radish
wew $1
wild grove
Well and airfare and hotel
dusky plank
gilded stream
Home Assistance is so cooooool!
gilded stream
Reddit - The bacon capital of the world - Has your bacon dryer
This is what was used to set it up - https://github.com/ollo69/ha-smartthinq-sensors?fbclid=IwAR3L4LeMTLhanTDKbrpMD6btr_xnOt2V26-rmcYyLG-EL-VY0h5USyEIgY4
Look for Really, really neat custom card for dryer and washer
wild grove
love that data, type of thing being washed, cycle, and time remaining .
i used a vibration sensor on the dryer to know when its done :/
gilded stream
I tend to leave clothes in the wash for too long after it's done, so I set up a reminder. If the washer completes, but the dryer hasn't started for an hour, my alexia devices will let me know. After 1.5 hours, I get an email.
When we bought our smart washer/dryer we never expected to actually do anything with the smart stuff, lol.
wild grove
i like your logic on the dyer done notification
gilded stream
Here is the node-red diagram if you were curious.
granite hare
Got my HA branded tag reader in the mail today! 🎉
subtle pasture
@wild grove I gave up on vibration sensors, too unreliable. A smart-plug with power monitoring is rock-solid
Or, if you're dealing with a 240v dryer, a temperature sensor stuck to the back, directly above the dryer hose outlet.
scenic radish
Ah, that's a clever solution if a smart plug isn't an option
subtle pasture
I use that solution on my dishwasher. Temperature sensor stuck to it directly above the steam vent
When it vents steam, the sensor maxes out. Dishes are done!
wild grove
@subtle pasture vibration has been rock solid (ha) for me
i built one with an old rpi 1 i had sitting around and a sw420 or 240 or something like that
shy comet
Dishes are done is such a critical notification in case u forget if you did them or not
subtle pasture
I tried everything to get vibration sensors to read reliably... too many false positives
shy comet
thats where notification history is important ahha
scenic radish
Nope, you're required to get rid of the vibration sensor @wild grove
Smart plug or temp sensor only
subtle pasture
Even someone unloading the laundry could cause enough vibration events to read as "running" again
And there was no good way to filter that out
shy comet
you have to go by timing with vibration and power meters
subtle pasture
Nah, smart plug was easier 😛
wild grove
i hacked up a python script i found online. if i recall it ha some hold done stuff so i dont get start/stops w/ random vibrations
subtle pasture
My washer never goes to 0 unless I turn the nob on the front to "off"
shy comet
my dishwasher does that multiple times in a cycle
yea thats the thing you have to monitor the appliances behavior LOL
wild grove
or that lg thing someone just linked direct api integration
subtle pasture
Wasn't hard, honestly... not anywhere near as problematic as a vibration sensor...
shy comet
ye for sure
all i do is increase the for by a minute if a certain cycle behaves differently
subtle pasture
Like, i literally tried for weeks to get reliable laundry notifications out of vibration sensors. It never worked well enough to depend on it.
Especially because the balance of each individual load could result in more or fewer vibration events being detected.
shy comet
i think they worked well on the really old models that would shake the house lol
subtle pasture
Some loads barely triggered the sensors, others were constant events.
shy comet
like the top load washers
deft pewter
My washing machine only shakes violently when I put too many body parts in.
subtle pasture
lol
shy comet
damn i hated top load washers LOL
scenic radish
Love my top loader
No vibration issues unless I overload the washer with bulky stuff and even then it's not a guarantee
subtle pasture
I actually miss top loaders...
You could open them mid-cycle without flooding the room >_>
Front loaders lock, and have to be drained, if you need to open them for any reason
wild grove
speedqueen if in the us
inner vault
the last washer we bought new was specifically a HE toploader, it didn't have an agitator, which was wild, but it worked fine.
because screw everythign about moldy smelling front loading washers
shy comet
You could open them mid-cycle without flooding the room >_>
lol my washer locks the door until the water is drained 😛
subtle pasture
lol, yeah, gotta leave the door open on a front-loader to let it air out between loads
inner vault
we sold that one with the house and our new place came with ancient washer and dryer that work way better than brand new HE ones - and our electricity and water are cheap af in quebec... so we're just going to stick with them until they die a horrible death
subtle pasture
@shy comet The number of times I've realized something slipped into a load that shouldn't have, just as second after the door locks, is too damn high...
shy comet
yea ive had to run to the garage at the request of the wife one too many times
i actually account for washer or dryer running for the "done" notification too so i dont waste my time making the trip
no point in going out to the washer if the dryer is still running or vice versa
subtle pasture
Yeah, I only notify that "the laundry has finished" if the washer and dryer are both not in the "running" state
There's also a cooldown on the automation so it won't alert twice if the machines finish within 5 minutes of one another
shy comet
https://github.com/dshokouhi/Home-AssistantConfig/blob/master/automations.yaml#L350 i decided to make use of emojis in notifications for the fun aspect so it worked well here lol
subtle pasture
Hah, just be warned, those notifications won't display correctly on all platforms...
Android and iOS treat notifications very differently
shy comet
no mention of emoji there lol
there is an issue with using emoji in your device name https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/troubleshooting/errors/#response-status-code-was-unacceptable-400
dusky plank
some emojis render correctly, some don't. there was one particular website i believe Ludeeus told me where every emoji just worked for me
shy comet
ah i can see that
differnet platforms support different emoji
there like some uniformity but not a lot
dusky plank
this and there's also different codes for (the same) emojis
shy comet
yup
wild grove
i love that we just had a 20m conversation about laundry
shy comet
hahaahha
amber bramble
have front loader. love the front loading, hate fighting the moldy seal
wild grove
do you face your front loaders together so the washer can vomit the clothes in to the dryer?
shy comet
hahahaah
amber bramble
that would be amazing
wild grove
really they need front load, rear unload
or put it on top and it could just drop it in
amber bramble
I'm intrigued by the combo washer/dryer units I've seen, but i've heard they aren't very good yet
dusky plank
front loader and dryer combo
subtle pasture
@wild grove My fault. I have a propensity for offering alternatives to vibration sensors, after all the problems they gave me :x
shy comet
need an all in one unit....top is washer and once done it dumps to the bottom to dry
bonus points if it folds the clothes for you 😛
subtle pasture
So far, the best use I've found for vibration sensors is sticking them to beds to aid in occupancy detection
amber bramble
automated clothes folder for the win
wild grove
i honestly expected issues and have been pleasantly surprised how stable it has been.
dusky plank
HA stability is amazing
subtle pasture
slams door to dryer and sets laundry basket down on top
9 vibration events detected!!!"
This issue I'd have constantly ^
But I couldn't just ignore that number of vibration events over that span of time, because then it'd falsely read the machine as not running all the damn time
There was never a happy median
last cedar
Clamp meter on the phase going to the dryer socket is probably the most elegant.
I think someone did a thermometer on the hoze of a vented dryer?
Wouldn't work for a condensing dryer though.
amber bramble
ive got an LG washer and dryer but not the smart version
i'd love to pull the info into HA but i want more detail than just "running" or "off"
last cedar
Yeah that would actually be nice tbh
Imagine a hacker getting control of your dryer and drying your clothes
amber bramble
id like to pull in info like time remaining and what cycle its on
shy cradle
Imagine a hacker getting control of your dryer and drying your clothes
@last cedar
or worse, not drying them
amber bramble
or for the washer, is it washing/rinsing/spinning/etc
last cedar
I would only personally be interested in knowing when the dryer was finished. And dishwasher and washing machine.
shy cradle
use a wifi motion sensor 😉
subtle pasture
@last cedar I got lucky and have a 120v dryer, so a standard 16a Sonoff smart plug did the trick 😛
last cedar
But I understand why people would want to calculate power consumption, etc
subtle pasture
Fixed it already. Darn tab-complete >_>
last cedar
They are normally 240V right, in the states?
subtle pasture
240v if they're all-electric, 120v if the heating element runs on natural gas
brisk glen
so my bluetooth homekit devices are getting thread support in the next month or so
last cedar
Aha! TIL. Thanks!
subtle pasture
The plumbing for the dryer is kinda nuts. Requires 120v, gas, and water...
Because it has a steam setting, so it needs its own water
last cedar
We have 230 or 415 here. Unless you are something big
subtle pasture
The only other appliance I've encountered that needed all 3 was an espresso machine
last cedar
That sounds unnecessarily complicated tbh
subtle pasture
Cheaper than using electricity to generate heat... like, a lot cheaper.
last cedar
We don't have a dryer atm. Not on the top of my list of stuff to buy either tbh :)
Yeah, if you can get it to where you need it, gas isn't super expensive
Make use of what you have :)
Smart appliances certainly open up a lot of home integration possibilities
Will be interesting where the technology goes
gilded stream
do you face your front loaders together so the washer can vomit the clothes in to the dryer?
rofl!
I actually hadn't seen this before. The last few minutes of the dryer has it's own status. Neat!
hushed basalt
Gaa dryers 🤢
scenic radish
GAA
gilded stream
Why? Gas is efficient and cheap.
Do I need to find the Technology Connections video?
deft pewter
Is that the one with the cable guy and step sister?
gilded stream
https://youtu.be/lBVvnDfW2Xo It's this guy. Highly recommend. This is also topical because he has another great video discussing how 240v is a totally normal thing in American homes despite the misnomer that we only have 120v
deft pewter
Oh. Wrong kind of tech connection.
clear ferry
Gas 🤢
deft pewter
Gas is efficient... way more.
deft pewter
Well that's fine for Norway... the rest of the world are still catching up.
subtle pasture
Or going backwards, as the case may be...
deft pewter
Speak for yourself
subtle pasture
California is moving away from nuclear power, which is a bad move IMHO
deft pewter
Yeah, nuclear and renewables are the way forward. Kinda lame to go backwards.
I didn't realise until recently that most of the UK's nuclear plants go out of commission around 2035... we're going to struggle to get more online in time.
subtle pasture
We could cover all of our energy needs, for the entire state, and stop importing power... with the addition of 3 modern nuclear plants
But instead we're going to invest 10x the money into solar and energy storage facilities :/
Doesn't make any sense to me, personally
deft pewter
Solar's good... and I get why some people don't like the scary nuclear stuff.
clear ferry
We shut down our only nuclear power plant last year, never produced power, we used it to irradiate some medical stuff
deft pewter
Should do it the Norwegian way instead though. Brown cheese furnaces.
subtle pasture
Yeah, but if they'd let us build modern plants, they'd be a lot less scary than the old ones we're forced to keep operating because they aren't being allowed to replace them...
subtle pasture
And I'm all for solar, but it requires vast energy storage reserves more than 50% of the time in order to provide stable power
deft pewter
Yes... production on demand makes more sense.
subtle pasture
It's a good adjunct for dealing with additional load during daylight hours... except it isn't, because peak load sets in the same hour that solar efficiency starts to slump due to the sun setting
gilded stream
[duck curve intensifies]
subtle pasture
But yeah, tldr: We need 3 nuclear plants for complete state-wide energy independence, but most voters aren't educated on the topic and have the knee-jerk "Chernobyl scary!" reaction any time it comes up.
young sigil
Do the modern reactor designs still require waste to be stored safely for tens of thousands of years? Because I don't trust most politicians to plan past next week.
subtle pasture
Modern reactor designs use the fuel in stages. Old plants, the fuel is considered "spent" with tons of fissile material remaining. New designs can continue using that fuel
So by the time it's actually considered waste, it's a far more-spent and less-dangerous product
Still has to be stored for a good long time, but you get a LOT more use out of the same hunk of uranium
deft pewter
But you still end up with waste that takes tends of thousands of years to become safe... 😉
I'm not arguing that it's not a good thing but there are still the same downsides.
subtle pasture
You do, but it's several orders of magnitude less waste than the old plants
Like, we could literally haul up old nuclear waste and re-burn it with new plants...
We wouldn't need to make any new nuclear waste for a century
What part of this is a bad idea?
deft pewter
I'm still hoping for cold fusion. They're still building that experimental reactor in Europe, right? Like, they just finished assembling the core stuff this year?
subtle pasture
Yeah, the issue with fusion is containing the plasma...
deft pewter
subtle pasture
You need to generate one hell of an electromagnetic field to keep the plasma toroid from impacting (and destroying) the walls of the reactor chamber. Said field (usually) takes more power to maintain than the reaction itself generates.
last cedar
Reusing old nuclear waste sounds amazing tbh
subtle pasture
Oh, and fusion still generates ionizing radiation... so it's still not a totally clean process
gilded stream
hampster wheel power best power
deft pewter
What about Zero Point Modules?
subtle pasture
Strictly speaking, zero point energy risks the destruction of the universe...
last cedar
I think buttered toast cat generators are probably the best energy source
gilded stream
Hmm... we've only got one of those, though
subtle pasture
Zero point energy implies that the universe itself is a false vacuum (which appears to be the case, going by the estimated mass of the Higgs boson). That, unfortunately, leaves open the possibility of a bubble of lower-energy space (true vaccum) nucleating within our own universe. Such a bubble, once formed, would then expand at the speed of light, rewriting the laws of physics as it goes, and destroying everything in its path.
I wouldn't fuck around with zero point energy, is what I'm saying...
last cedar
Isn't that what caused Gordon Freeman all his problems?
subtle pasture
Nah, but they do mention that the Gravity Gun runs on zero point energy
Which means Gordon is running around with a potentially universe-ending device
last cedar
Aha! I knew it had something to do with that amazing game
deft pewter
Also Stargate 😉
gilded stream
I had never once heard of zero point energy
last cedar
I wonder where we will be in 20 years energy wise tbh
gilded stream
Time to go down the science rabbit hole
deft pewter
ZPM's are the power sources used in the whole Stargate Atlantis series (and some related episodes from the others).
last cedar
Electric cars are being shoved down our throats atm, maybe we won't even have enough electric production to charge them all?
subtle pasture
Also, being able to harness zero point energy would immediately put us off the end of the Kardashev scale (and then some)
So that's fun, lol
dusky plank
consumers will always consume
deft pewter
We'll keep up with energy demands just fine
gilded stream
I think the idea of possibly destroying reality to dry clothes efficiently is worth debating
last cedar
A zero point energy clothes dryer?
gilded stream
I bet there's a Factorio mod for this...
last cedar
Press the wrong button and it absorbs the entire universe?
gilded stream
Off the Kardashev scale
...whoa that could explain a lot
subtle pasture
Hmm?
gilded stream
Tier 3 or 4 societies would be easy to spot, but we don't observe any signs of those. Maybe that's because aliens don't need none of that and are sitting pretty with their zero point clothes dryers
Helps explain the Fermi Paradox too
last cedar
Imagine your zero point dryer being a smart dryer
gilded stream
Yeah how could HASS take advantage of this?
last cedar
And just before it implodes it send a push to your phone
"oh dear"
Then nothing
Or
dusky plank
the washing machine sends you notifications in case HA goes down
last cedar
"I told you I was ill"
Does a smart dryer have a function if it sets on fire?
"i,'m sorry I burnt all your clothes"
Could be funny with a programmer with a sense og humour
gilded stream
Fire detected. Email/text sent. Git commit, git push --force
I don't actually know the answer to that question, Michelle. I should see if it has some kind of fire detection software. I have a smoke detector in my laundry room for fire checking redundancy
subtle pasture
@gilded stream A civilization using energy on that scale should be easy to spot... it would also throw the law of conservation of energy out of whack
gilded stream
Damn. We're all alone after all
deft pewter
It's unlikely we're alone. They just want nothing to do with us 😉
scenic radish
Just take the flame sensor out of your furnace and put it on the dryer
deft pewter
Do you blame them?
scenic radish
Probably with a nodeMCU involved
gilded stream
You rose my hopes only to dash them magnificently
subtle pasture
@deft pewter Cosmic Zoo theory?
hushed basalt
Gas isn't efficient nor clean
scenic radish
Neither are you
last cedar
Oof
gilded stream
...lol
hushed basalt
From seam to stove it's incredibly wasteful
And it's toxic yet we burn it in our homes
subtle pasture
hushed basalt
And it requires dual infrastructure
gilded stream
It's literally not.
subtle pasture
We went from clothes dryers to theoretical physics... I like this place 🤣
hushed basalt
Heat pump for heating/cooling/hot water/drying clothes
gilded stream
I was thinking the same thing Leapo
hushed basalt
Zero need for gas, and then you're not condoning fracking which is way worse than any nuclear power plant
wanton bobcat
UniFi 6 AP's early access are back in stock. I just bought nano-HDs. Convince me why I need the 6s?
gilded stream
I've been in this server for ages but had it muted until I wanted to share my washer/dryer infocard
scenic radish
I'm with you telco, if I could afford retrofitting that
last cedar
Badtelcotech, what is your cat called?
scenic radish
P||enn||y
last cedar
But but :(
hushed basalt
Who let Tediore loose in the lounge
scenic radish
subtle pasture
Gandalf (the gray)
last cedar
Tediore runs on zero point energy. No one can keep them from the lounge.
deft pewter
You have a cute pussy, Leapo.
subtle pasture
lol
last cedar
Wow, Gandalf would steal my fluffy cats heart
deft pewter
Seriously though... that's one photogenic feline.
scenic radish
@clear ferry @green inlet and @last plaza saw my chest hair a few weeks go @deft pewter , you want in next time?
deft pewter
I love my kitty but he's not quite as photogenic.
last cedar
Chest hair. OH MY GOD
scenic radish
The ladies love it
hushed basalt
last cedar
NO
subtle pasture
I have to give myself a shot once a week. He snuggles up like this after every single one. He's a good kitty 😭
hushed basalt
Here's my old cat
scenic radish
last cedar
That is a mighy fine cat
deft pewter
No, that's Austin.
last cedar
@subtle pasture cats are good like that. Proper arseholes but know when you need love
hushed basalt
dusky plank
you sure have big cats down there
subtle pasture
Yeah, he's kinda chonky... He pulls this every morning while I'm trying to get ready. lol
dusky plank
@last cedar's gang of chonkers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofp26_oc4CA
last plaza
@clear ferry @green inlet and @last plaza saw my chest hair a few weeks go @deft pewter , you want in next time?
@scenic radish I thought I saw a Bigfoot! 😝
deft pewter
That wasn't his foot 😉
subtle pasture
last cedar
@dusky plank my extended family.
Harold, ralph, fred, denise, margret, brenda, jimmy.....
subtle pasture
That's... a fuck-ton of racoons...
deft pewter
I swear, Spanish art restorers have to be some of the worst in the world at their career...
last plaza
@deft pewter I was talking about this Bigfoot.
low harness
Looks inspired by that painting
low harness
deft pewter
The painting was also in Spain.
This article has links to a few recent examples: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/10/spanish-statue-bodge-up-is-a-new-rival-to-borjas-monkey-christ
dusky plank
deft pewter
They clearly haven't moved beyond Picasso and the abstract movement.
bitter pawn
deft pewter
I want to say 'awwwww' but all I'm thinking is 'why is that animal on a dining table?' 🤔
Or more accurately... 'why is a living animal on a dining table?'
deft pewter
I love my cat... but he wouldn't dare go on kitchen surfaces or tables.
clear ferry
Also, where is my integration @deft pewter
deft pewter
(not while I'm looking, anyway)
bitter pawn
he has deficiencies.
deft pewter
Every time you ask, it goes back by a week, atx 😉
clear ferry
bitter pawn
when his mom was pregnant she was given vaccines
when cats are preggo, you dont do that or they end up like him
as graceful as a bull in a china shop
deft pewter
I feel bad now. I'll revert to 'awwww'
We've never had a special cat but our first was from a rescue centre and only had 3 legs. She was a cutie.
bitter pawn
he's a happy cat, but we signed a form with SPCA that he would never be left outdoors. because if he climbed a tree, he would probably fall and die.
deft pewter
Outdoor cats kill a bunch of birds anyway, so that's probably a good thing.
bitter pawn
aw a 3 leg cat. they are fun to watch run. they can be so happy.
deft pewter
She was pretty agile and didn't seem to mind. Took her a while to master stairs and then she was okay.
Whereas atx still can't walk up stairs without assistance.
bitter pawn
well atx has deficiencies as well.... trololololz 😄
deft pewter
You could faceplant a wall at high speed and it'd still improve your complexion.
deft pewter
❤️
forest edge
wtf i missed cat chat
shy comet
lol
gilded stream
Those aren't cats
static schooner
Back on topic!
lofty orchid
Hi, im new here. I started using home assistant on a pi 4 a few weeks ago to automate our beach house in the off/on season. I added a house temp/humidity sensor, a basement temp sensor, control 5 Mitsubishi mr slim floor and wall units. Adding HACS and reading the documentation has helped me a lot. so far its cost me about $150, I plan on adding some espcams and more sensors. I have automations to protect againt the temp getting too low, being set too low/high etc. I just wanted to say thank you for making it relatively easy.
gilded stream
I hate that external emoji's are cut off
deft pewter
So did atx... 🤣
green inlet
@scenic radish chest hair 😍
forest edge
Teenagers old enough to drive have no clue what SD stands for on TV's
wet pilot
hushed basalt
"you mean like youtube when the wifi is bad"
scenic radish
Chest hair in 10 @last cedar , you in?
hushed basalt
forest edge
@scenic radish your not gluing pubes to your chest again are you?
scenic radish
subtle pasture
...wat?
dull chasm
well sounds like somebody did not get thier chest hairs ...
scenic radish
@subtle pasture Sonoma is apparently accusing me of gluing pubes on my chest to imitate chest hair
dull chasm
well?
scenic radish
Maybe next time I show my chest hair you'll be in video chat
subtle pasture
Imma nope out on that one...
dull chasm
i think it may have happened once ....
subtle pasture
Try Rogaine (Minoxidil) next time...
scenic radish
No need
shy comet
lol just be persian 😛
subtle pasture
It's marketed for male pattern baldness, but it can help fill in patchy beards and (presumably) chest hair
shy comet
ill eventually have more chest hair than hair on my head 😛
scenic radish
If I used rogaine I would be even closer to a werewolf than I am now
subtle pasture
Lol
dull chasm
so the glueing was a sucess
subtle pasture
@shy comet start Dutasterid and Minoxidil quick enough and you can keep your hair :P
We can't cure cancer yet, but androgenic alopecia is pretty much figured out. Go figure...
@dull chasm there's always the option of looking up Mike Myers makeup artist. They did some convincing fake chest hair for those Austin Powers movies 😂
dull chasm
that is for teddy .....i am way too old to give two shits 🤣
if i went on a date now my first question would be do you cook ....second do you clean ....third ....i need to get lucky at least once a month
dull chasm
@scenic radish i dont think you quite understand ...maybe a generation gap i guess ...it is normal for for my generation to have a wife that stays home .....like mine does now ......but to answer your question .....i never have so 🤷♂️
but i did work 74 hours this week if that makes you feel better
scenic radish
Sounds terrible
subtle pasture
It's honestly not easy to survive on a single income these days... So that's a lot less common
last dirge
@subtle pasture due to the same generation
dull chasm
true .....but what we are used to too
subtle pasture
I wasn't gonna place blame
dull chasm
it just diff not right or wrong ...like we dont eat out as much as younger friends of mine do
i pay cash for everything ...nowdays everybody uses a card
forest edge
I use the card for everything, even stopped feeling weird for when it's only a 2 buck thing lol
scenic radish
I once bought a 54 cent PVC coupler on my credit card because I didn't have cash or change with me lol
subtle pasture
I mean, I pay with a debit card, but it's basically cash (as apposed to credit)
scenic radish
Yeah I put 99% of my purchases on my credit card, I usually get about $20-30 cashback each month
subtle pasture
Never had credit, so... 🤷♀️
scenic radish
Never too late to start
dull chasm
@last dirge cash has 100 percent protection
last dirge
I put everything possible on a credit card, paid off every month
scenic radish
In fact let me refer you to Discover so that we both get $50 cashback
forest edge
lol
subtle pasture
Oh, I've applied before. I just always get denied, because my credit score is a "soft 700"
last dirge
Discover takes everybody
scenic radish
Yeah that's some BS
forest edge
that do not sound right at all
subtle pasture
It's 700 because there are no fuckups... Because I've never had credit
forest edge
your bank you use will always accept you for thier credit card
subtle pasture
So it's "too soft"
forest edge
thats what I use, just my bank credit card
scenic radish
So it's "too soft"
@subtle pasture just like Vasiley!
dull chasm
mine is 750 but lady at bank said it prolly will never get better because i dont carry any balance on credit card and pay off loans too quick and debit to income ratio is only 20 percent
scenic radish
That...doesn't make sense
forest edge
I have never carried a balance over to pay intrest and mine went up just fine
I can see paying off loans too quick screwing you tho
dull chasm
maybe i am saying wrong somehow ....but she said my credit is stagnet is the biggest thing i remember
forest edge
maybe she meant your stetson
subtle pasture
On the up side, no credit = no interest
"Sorry... I can't qualify you for an auto loan"
"I'm paying cash"
"You WHAT?"
dull chasm
my stetson is the shit ...boy dont forget that @forest edge
scenic radish
Omg that stuff is nasty @forest edge lmao
forest edge
lol
scenic radish
Yeah I bought my first car with cash. Used
last dirge
what's a good FICO score?
scenic radish
Eleventy
last dirge
mine's twice that
dull chasm
this is wifes and she makes no money LOL and it goes up and down all the time and i have no clue why
scenic radish
740 is the threshold for "very good" @last dirge
last dirge
what's the range?
forest edge
it goes higher than 850
scenic radish
no u
forest edge
but for rich people
last dirge
why don't you just make 850 louder?
forest edge
mine was pretty high when they checked it after i changed insurances, like 830ish or something
but then I always have credit out and paying it off
plus some loans being paid off
scenic radish
I like how the only reason my credit score isn't higher than 801 is because "utilization on loans is too high"... I'm three years into a 30-year mortgage
last dirge
I just refi'd
scenic radish
No missed payments, credit card utilization always below 10% (usually below 5%), 10-year credit history
But NO I have a MORTGAGE
forest edge
having actual equity helps to
"yea i bought a condo"... "why you laughing?"
lol jk
forest edge
we all live in a cardboard box at some point 🦥
dull chasm
well if you would have not bought the fake hair... 🤔
forest edge
@dull chasm you should get on board with your credit. jesus after retirement credit cards are vital while traveling to national parks
dull chasm
i am good ...i carry 1 to 2k in cash at all times
forest edge
thats not a good practice lol
scenic radish
100% protection huh?
dull chasm
why not
scenic radish
What's protecting it from getting stolen lol
dull chasm
me and the guns i carry
scenic radish
Steal my credit card, I call my credit card company and cancel it
forest edge
even if you don't get robbed those same jeans you wear evry day ass pocket will wear a hole eventually lol
scenic radish
Yeah you're gonna shoot someone over money, ok lol
subtle pasture
I feel weird with more than $100 on me, I could not imagine walking around with $2k, in cash, in my purse...
That's a lot of $100 bills...
dull chasm
shit yea @scenic radish nothing worse than a thief
forest edge
I don't even like carrying the cash from renting out my farm to the bank in a sealed envelope with no pit stops let alone carry that much in my billfold
dull chasm
@scenic radish i dont have a ccl instructor ..dont need one 🤣
subtle pasture
This guy with his gangster roll over here 💸
scenic radish
More like a roll of singles with a $100 on the outside
last dirge
more like a Costanza wallet
forest edge
keeping his wallet fat is the only way he can still feel he has an ass when he sits and drives around all damn day
last dirge
ol' Hank Hill ass
zealous fog
Does anyone have recommendations for troubleshooting Deluge? It is a torrent software and I am really struggling with it at the moment.
not sure if it is allowed to be discussed here but I have exhausted all options that I can think of and talking it through with someone would be greatly appreciated
I only ask because it has some networking with ports and whatnot. and I know home automation is in a similar vain
I am already in this discord for Hassio obviously but figured I ask..
last cedar
@scenic radish nope. Glad I missed it. 😂
last cedar
clear ferry
@zealous fog just move to qbittorrent already
clear ferry
last cedar
I need of some help.
I washed my server. As you all saw.
When I turned it on, loads of bubbles came out and now my appartment is full of bubbles. I can't get in to turn my server off, the walls are bowing out from all the bubbles.
Any help is appreciated
Did I use too much washing up liquid?
Should I have rinsed it before turning it on?
clever mortar
Don't worry about it. The bubbles will shortly replace the walls of your apartment, and then later the walls of the building.
Eventually the power to your block will be cut, and things should settle down
last cedar
Phew.
Thanks
Oh, there was just a huge explosion. Blue flash.
I guess the power is cut.
No more bubbles either.
Just a huge crater.
clever mortar
See, solved the problem 👍
low harness
clear ferry
low harness
I always wondered if that is actually a real book.
last cedar
But on a serious note....
Need to pick up my UPS and test my 920SQ with an atx psu tester.
And swap over my new server to a 2U "quiet" case
last cedar
I believe so Thomas
I don't like using paperclips on 920W PSUs
If anything goes wrong bits get hot very quick
last cedar
Hahahaha
low harness
Then I should maybe try to get hold of it to go with my other favourites
last cedar
That is awesome!
low harness
last cedar
Frame it and put it above the lab
clear ferry
I saw those at the store recently, but they were no fun
last cedar
Remember Wallace and Gromit?
clear ferry
low harness
My kids used to love them "Daddy! Read Qantegics!"
clear ferry
clear ferry
clear ferry
last cedar
I watch them semi regularly. Hillarous
low harness
We had this on a bookshelf when I grew up
Higher mathematics för poets (and other mathematical virgins)
last cedar
Oh, you are Swedish?
low harness
Yep
last cedar
Mycket najs
last cedar
😂
clear ferry
deft pewter
Why are there other houses in your garden?
clear ferry
Damn neighboreenos
Atleast it isn't neighbours 1m from my bed
Like if I lived in the city
deft pewter
It just looks like they're literally in your yard. No boundary between you.
We're in a semi-detached house at the moment, so our neighbours are closer... but we have fences/hedges between us 😄
Hmm. If I'm on a VPN, do my DNS queries also get routed via the tunnel?
dusky plank
depends on the configuration
deft pewter
Not that I understand much of it but this is my OpenVPN conf:
remote somedomainhere.com 80
client
verb 1
dev tun
auth-user-pass
persist-key
persist-tun
nobind```just to send all data over vpn you use push "redirect-gateway def1" for openvpn, to set specific dns options for clients use ccd and look at sth like this
https://serverfault.com/a/480098
deft pewter
Trying to get around an ISP block... seems to work for some stuff and not for others. Seems like DNS is going through the tunnel if some of it works 🤔
Turning the VPN back off returns to all of the sites I'm trying to accessing failing to resolve.
Maybe the exit point for the tunnel has blocks on some stuff too... might have to find other exits...
dusky plank
maybe 🤷♂️ now I just want to play with this cool slide in atx garden
deft pewter
So that's what people do with all that polystyrene packing stuff
forest edge
frowned upon in a country where thy neighbor hates thy neighbor? you people are weird
low harness
What's up with the flamingo gnomes?
forest edge
never seen windows like that either. a smaller square within a larger square
clear ferry
That is Italian marble @deft pewter
@low harness bought them at rusta, solar operates!
clear ferry
🤣
deft pewter
I'm having a hard time finding a way to access everyone's favourite nautical themed website 😐
dull chasm
i cant see my neighbors (from house)
clear ferry
@dull chasm like the rest of the 67 people living in the American midwest then
dull chasm
i dont live in the midwest
clear ferry
@deft pewter www.penisland.net ?
@dull chasm the parts of USA that isn't new York and California then
dull chasm
yep most of america
new york is actually not a bad place mostly farms ...minus new york city
hushed basalt
One of my shucked WDs died
amber bramble
:rip:
hushed basalt
Any Aussies ever dealt with warranty returns with drives ordered from Amazon US
midnight adder
unless the manufacturer covered with international warranty meaning you can return/deal with the problem locally it's not worth it imo
midnight adder
Is the best way to support HA to subscribe to cloud?
I’m very happy with how my setup is working and want to make sure support continues so I can keep it going
clever mortar
That's the only option if you want to support financially
shy comet
you can also buy a t-shirt 😛 right?
deft pewter
Or three
static schooner
midnight adder
HA founder looks like a pro boxer?
clear ferry
The wonders of Photoshop
deft pewter
@deft pewter www.penisland.net ?
@clear ferry I have enough pens already, thanks
clear ferry
😟
deft pewter
Still haven't found an exit from my IP service that lets me access these other sites though 😡
Are there any countries that don't block TPB yet?
low harness
Sweden?
inner vault
Canada
low harness
That oil platform thingy?
deft pewter
I thought I'd tried both of those and no luck. Will try again.
The annoying part is that I only want to download what I'm already paying for. I just can't be bothered with using the Amazon Prime / Netflix apps.
low harness
Yeah... that’s a can of gray-zone worms...
deft pewter
I know, I know. Maybe they should improve their apps...
dusky plank
our isps just block dns, google or cloudflare are enough to work around
clear ferry
Norway blocks no torrent or privacy sites
deft pewter
I don't know what my ISP is doing. Changing DNS isn't enough (I never use ISP DNS anyway).
clear ferry
And if copyright holders contact isps, they just flip them off
deft pewter
Norway was one of the first I tried. I know you guys are pretty liberal 😄
clear ferry
To be fair, we block something country side, anything marked as child trafficking or pornography is blocked in all country dns` afaik
static schooner
you can't even get to the website?
deft pewter
Pornography and child trafficking? One of those things is bad.
clear ferry
Afaik you are greeted with a message from the police
Not regular pornography..
That is fine
deft pewter
I know.. .I deliberately switched it around 😉
deft pewter
I can't decide if I like that or not...
On the one hand, it means you're not passing details of users to the police that just clicked the wrong link. On the other hand, you're missing a huge chance to arrest a load of perverts.
last cedar
The world would stop turning if porn was banned
deft pewter
Most of us will agree that some kinds should be.
last cedar
Well, yes
deft pewter
Furries... eww
shy comet
so much chat of torrents in here....what about usenet? 🤔
clear ferry
I have moved everything over to Usenet mostly
deft pewter
Already got Usenet set up... I just want torrents for the occasional stuff I can't find.
last cedar
I use usenet instead of torrents
shy comet
@deft pewter how many indexers?
last cedar
Great for linux iso
clear ferry
Only keep torrents for the obscure music dvds I gather
shy comet
black friday is coming up i normally stock up on those lifetime sites lol
last cedar
Oh, that is a thing?
shy comet
yup
last cedar
I think I have 2 lifetime ones
shy comet
/r/usenet will have them all 🙂
last cedar
Was unaware there were a lot
deft pewter
Enough to last two lifetimes. 😄
shy comet
nzbgeek is probably the best life time one i have
last cedar
Racoons have short lifetimes unfortunately
deft pewter
@deft pewter how many indexers?
@shy comet Just one for now. It finds most things I want. NZBGeek.
shy comet
i find dognzb to be pretty good but pricey
last cedar
I think I have geek and cat
shy comet
drunkenslug has been great for me
deft pewter
I'll look out for lifetime deals, thanks for the tip. I only have a lifetime VPN so far.
deft pewter
lol... is that just to show where your pulls came from?
shy comet
yea which ones had the most downloads
downloads per indexer
nzbhydra is a indexer aggregator....keeps it all in one place...i love having a single search site for 4k rips when i do my searches
last cedar
Nzbcat and dognzb shouldn't be next to each other. They will fight
shy comet
lmao
deft pewter
Yeah... I'm using Jackett as a torrent aggregator. KAT is still working (on VPN), I just can't get a working connection to TPB 😦
clear ferry
I only have two indexers, need to get a few more then
shy comet
i find it important to have multiple because they all dont have the same data
last cedar
Mmmm
shy comet
i also found your provider is important too
Frugal usenet does not do Auto DMCA
must be mailed in
astraweb when i had them did auto DMCA and you can see things only a few hours old getting hit
bitter pawn
hmm
atx's camera is mainly focused on the kiddie slide
now is that your slide or your neighbors?
bitter pawn
lolololololz xD
clear ferry
bitter pawn
I mean placement is everything my dude
deft pewter
Exactly. A little too far back and... whoops!
last cedar
That is one of the worst positioned cameras in the history of cameras. Or positioning.
But it is a camera
bitter pawn
i mean if you want to focus on the kiddie slide or the christmas lights, you got it dude
clear ferry
Mounting the Christmas lights
bitter pawn
😄
clear ferry
🧐
last cedar
You have christmas lights!?
clear ferry
Mounted 200 so far
bitter pawn
200 cameras
last cedar
Damn
last cedar
Nuclear power station
Why does corona have to mess up my moving plans :/ very annoyed that when you finally save up enough to make a bank touch you with a barge pole, house prises mean that you can't actually afford to buy anything
deft pewter
Prices in your area went up? 😦
mortal cairn
Hi
last cedar
Up about 10% on average in the whole municipality
Meanwhile I have been given a number that would normally be enough to live within 30km of work. But it looks like I have to increase that to 50km just to keep under budget
Very tough to get on the ladder
Especially right now
young sigil
You could deflate prices in the area you want by rummaging through the bins and spilling them everywhere. Climb inside roof cavities, rip up the insulation and defecate everywhere. Sprinkle a bit of rabies and canine distemper into the bargain and you'll living where you want in no time.
forest edge
@clear ferry you tell these fools only American's are allowed to give you so much shit lol
deft pewter
Even once you're on the ladder, the struggle isn't ever truly over. If you're trying to upsize and everything goes up 10%, the gap is 10% bigger too.
People talk like once you're on the ladder, you move with it... that's not really true.
Though I do appreciate the struggle of paying rent and trying to save.
subtle pasture
@young sigil Or just sneak in with a large sharpie and write "Asbestos" on the underside of anything that could be suspect
midnight adder
forest edge
ok that is a pretty grim picture. like some dumbass thinking he'll get himself before covid does or something
midnight adder
best picture of the year. raises so many questions, that is why it's good
young sigil
@young sigil Or just sneak in with a large sharpie and write "Asbestos" on the underside of anything that could be suspect
@subtle pasture I suppose if trash pandas can type they can use a Texta.
scenic radish
"audio-visual auto-alert" lol
light trout
Been shared here a few times in the past
midnight adder
quite probably, i do still find it amusing always
scenic radish
geez, way to be a, as they say, spoilsport @light trout
you're probably one of those guys that screams REPOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on reddit
even though not everyone has seen every single thing ever posted on reddit
😛
midnight adder
i for one, have not
light trout
I'm not sure I have even posted a single thing there
scenic radish
just yanking your ⛓️
midnight adder
oh baby
subtle pasture
Fighting with an old HDHomeRun right now... keeps bootlooping
"Unplug your modem, update the firmware, then plug your modem back in"
That's... certainly a solution...
midnight adder
subtle pasture
Alternative solution that doesn't involve taking down the entire network: Give the HDHomeRun a static DHCP lease with custom (invalid) gateway and DNS settings...
Actually worked, too. Was able to update the firmware because the device couldn't reach the internet with an invalid gateway + invalid DNS
midnight adder
you can't assign static dhcp lease without rebooting the whole network?
subtle pasture
I can, that was the point
Their original suggestion was to unplug my cable modem in order to update the firmware on the device...
midnight adder
ah, silly
clear ferry
I looked at the hdhomerun, but then I realized linear TV was dead and cancelled my TV subscription after not watching that much TV the last 10 years
Hardware looks good though
subtle pasture
HDHomeRun also works for free OTA channels, just FYI
I had an old one in a box, figured I'd see what it scans
clear ferry
They don't exist here the last 15 years
midnight adder
really?
subtle pasture
Heh, weird
midnight adder
none?
clear ferry
Everything has been turned over to IP based
subtle pasture
Not a single digital VHF station?
midnight adder
we at least have some sd news and local rubbish
clear ferry
We have dismantled all FM towers too
clear ferry
We went to dab
midnight adder
where on earth do you live, sounds very modern
clear ferry
Norway
midnight adder
ah
clear ferry
@midnight adder landlines stopped selling over 10 years ago too, and frankly I haven't used a physical telephone outside of dark sites the last 13 years
midnight adder
we still have a thriving medium wave and long wave bands for radio, not what it was though
subtle pasture
Ah, interesting. Looks like most of the word adopted DAB, while the US adopted HD Radio (which piggybacks on existing FM tech and remains backwards-compatible)
subtle pasture
HD Radio can be tinny too, depending on how the broadcaster allocated bandwidth
clear ferry
All cars have come with dab here for the last.. 6-7 years atleast, that said I listen so little to radio anyway, I stream 10-15GB of audio a month usually
subtle pasture
They can broadcast one analog FM and up to 4 low-quality HD Radio stations (which all sound crap) all together
Or as little as one analog FM station and one full-bandwidth HD station in the same band allocation
midnight adder
we mostly have dab at 32 kbps mono or 64 kbps stereo for music stations, not good enough for my ears
bitter pawn
le sigh
a customer at work has a video surveillance server that keeps dropping off the network.
subtle pasture
@midnight adder Fair point. it also has no analog fallback
So if there aren't enough bits coming through, it just drops out completely...
bitter pawn
the customer has legit tried to reason anything and everything else is wrong with the server other than the network that they maintain
subtle pasture
HD Radio falls back to analog FM
midnight adder
i listened to some siriusXM and hd radio last time i was in the states
could be both, no @bitter pawn ?
scenic radish
I've been pretty impressed with HD radio
The transition from analog to digital or vice versa is seamless
midnight adder
yeah, no interruption at all?