transferred my install to 64bit, took me only 2 hours of my life, yeah 🎉
#the-water-cooler
dusky plank
clear ferry
👀
midnight adder
@clever mortar "why would anyone wanna use l0 if he wants to use the service from outside of the "localhost"
im realy curious about your expertise
clever mortar
Once more, you're confusing how things connect with how things listen
May I introduce you to the netstat command?
clever mortar
It'll show you what interfaces (and other details) a service listens on
midnight adder
netstat is deprecated
clever mortar
You'll discovery that magically services can listen on multiple interfaces
midnight adder
lol
clever mortar
Because it's local...
midnight adder
tell me
deft pewter
I smell a troll.
midnight adder
yeah lol... "LOCAL"
clever mortar
I'm not sure it's moved up to troll
midnight adder
not rachable from the outside. but that would be the goal... supprisingly
deft pewter
I was trying to be polite. I don't say what I'm thinking about people like this, for fear of getting banned myself 😄
midnight adder
maybe you do your homework kid... and use netstat on recent systems... or install deprecated software 🙂
cheers
scenic radish
Oh boy
clever mortar
light trout
Hey!
deft pewter
Nope, still no sign
green inlet
Discord 🥰😍😘
dusky plank
please excuse me I have to read up what happened here now
scenic radish
It's...really something
green inlet
Discord == when you run out of people to argue with in real life 😂
dusky plank
so what I take from this is integration = loopback (at east in his mind)? I still don't get it but meh,
this guy needs some wikipedia
deft pewter
this guy needs some wikipedia
That's a weird way to spell QAnon.
brisk glen
Home assistant OS is leaking again
light trout
Watch it @brisk glen !
brisk glen
Wops, forgot this discord is family friendly
😛
I need to part a few as I’m getting confused with who is who
brisk glen
That sounds good for dinner tonight
hearty depot
Oh, this is clever: https://mobile.twitter.com/galacticfurball/status/1319765986791157761
I rather would be interested how the image was created
deft pewter
The instructions are literally in the post.
Later in the thread, they share the tool they used (https://rawpixels.net/)
hearty depot
yea, but thats only used to convert to utf rgb8
deft pewter
Yeah, then the pixels are from that tool.
dusky plank
shouldn't a 64bit rpi be able to also run 32bit docker containers?
lost yarrow
yep, wasted way to much time on that allready
hearty depot
I'm still curius whats the onliner is to convert a tar into a png.
Apperantly DeCSS and AACS but 🤷♂️
uuh bot test, discord changed the API
.away zzz
velvet horizonBOT
Underknowledge is away! zzz :wave:
clear ferry
.away oh no! Anyway!
velvet horizonBOT
atxbyea is away! oh no! Anyway! :wave:
lost yarrow
.away oh no
velvet horizonBOT
FOSY The Racoon is away! oh no :wave:
dusky plank
shouldn't a 64bit rpi be able to also run 32bit docker containers?
@dusky plank it does, the error sat in front of the screen
dull chasm
put the beer down ....you need to rethink your current situation
oh boy ...here i go again
@tidal bronze maybe i move there ..nevermind i would go to jail ... i dont think me and the avg cali person could get along
plus there is a good chance of burning
dull chasm
LOL i think i am way to right wing for cali 🤣
i will thanks ...just means i gotta work more hours .....80+ weeks are getting old
tidal bronze
Bring any wing you got, you will fit in just fine.
dull chasm
av is fun ...especially if you the money for proper gear
brisk glen
This 8 TV setup acting as 1 is really funky
Well yes.. its fun
8 edge to edge tvs are fun
But its still funky
dull chasm
oh ...i really dont give two many shits about the video side ....more of the audio
brisk glen
😦 I deal with more of the video side
Audio would be more fun
Less very odd and strange ways of doing audio vs all of the funky things that go on with video
bitter zinc
Is it possible to have an apple tv app for home asisstant?
green inlet
Cali rocks....the people who knock it don’t know what they are missing. If you could get rid of the traffic it would be my favorite place ever. Mountains close, beaches close, women close, perfect weather 345 days of the year.....they don’t know what they are missing @tidal bronze
@bitter zinc , no
Different fruit....raspberry
tidal bronze
@green inlet couldn't have said it better. 😆
forest edge
what they are missing is the extreme heat from the state being on fire. so if your idea of a good time is to melt then cali is your place lol
supple moss
I have quite a TODO list:
- Mount contact/acceleration sensor in mailbox
- Use Sonoff 5V relay Wifi board to "push" a button in my kid's toy
- Ditch Hue hub and migrate to Z2M
- Ditch Samsung ST hub and migration to Z2M
- Install IOT for Windows so I can properly control power state
- Convert dumb IKEA cordless blinds to stepping motor for raise/lower cover, WIFI controller
- Get AppDaemon working with a custom dashboard
- Fix the completely broken Hyperion lights and my hyperion server Pi3
- Make my own lovelace dashboard that isn't showing every damn device in the house
- Migrate my Hue Labs dimmer/motion routines to HA (circadian rhythm)
- POE all my critical networking devices
- The list goes on...
@forest edge , fake news. Sure, there are problems in specific areas. My aunt lives in a hot zone. But typical news drama, the worlds associates one area for an entire region.
forest edge
what are you some cali groupie now? lol
subtle pasture
I think a lot of people underestimate the sheer size of the state...
I wasn't anywhere near any of the recent wildfires, though the smoke did get pretty bad
hushed basalt
I think Halo Reach is my favourite Halo game
The original is fantastic too, better in some ways
shrewd oasis
Hello. Is there an update tomorrow for HA?
velvet horizonBOT
clear ferry
shrewd oasis
I try not to use beta since I only have one instance of HA running
clever mortar
Doesn't stop you following along 😉
clear ferry
Doesn't stop you from reading the release notes atleast
shrewd oasis
I did but o my see reference to rm4c mini. The rm4 mini is a previous version though. The integration doesn’t want to accept it. Saw one issue that mentioned the rm4 mini but half way down it turned into an rm4c mini talk....
hushed basalt
just use an hourly cron job to git sync your HA with the dev branch
Then you'll always be up to date
live life on the edge
rare condor
Run it on proxmox too, support open source you evil corporate shill 😛
clear ferry
I might install a proxmox vm one day, if I bother and I have time 🤣
thick pine
Hey guys, anyone know if I can create/reset an admin account from command line for hassio? I just restored from an old version and my normal user can't log in due to an MFA problem...
clever mortar
I'd ask over in #330990055533576204 😉
thick pine
thanks will do!
clear ferry
I ordered 4 shellys almost 2 years ago, I should install them soon
forest edge
almost bought one of those. I have a double switch single gang controlling my outside lights and outside outlet. was gonna use one of those to make the switch smart so I could control my outside lights by the door
but at 30 bucks.. was like meh.. two 1pm's are cheaper than that lol
forest edge
i really hope they get dafang to work on the new wyze v3
clear ferry
I should buy a coral at some point to use with doods
cedar glacier
@clear ferry so the hospital i support refuses to upgrade their machine for their internal systems
it's an 8 core machine
and the thing has 1600 logged in users
it's driving me mental
clear ferry
sounds like the normal hospital stuff then 😉
I still see PA-RISC servers running in production in hospitals
cedar glacier
apparently oracle licenses per CPU CORE?! (i am incident manager, i dont actually get involved with the systems, dont think im the only person running this haha)
clear ferry
Yes, they do that
Oracle is one of the few reasons why Intel still sold 2 and 4 core CPUs just a few years ago for servers
Most customers these days find ways to migrate away from Oracle, but some ISV stuff requires ORACLE because 💸
But I have a customer who will pay roughly $40k per extra core he adds to his RAC these days
just in core fees
cedar glacier
god fucking damn
clear ferry
Oracle even wants you to license any core that the DB MIGHT run on
so if you run a linked vcenter you have to pay for ANY core across all clusters and vcenters
cedar glacier
i was in a call and they said '8 core' and i was like SLAP A 32 CORE IN THERE CALL IT A DAy but then the oracle money hound
clear ferry
Worst case scenario, you pay for say... 2048 cores
cedar glacier
god fucking damn
clear ferry
Would be interesting to see the license costs of running on the LUMI HPC system now, with 200k cores 🤔
Yeah, if the applications you are running supports anything else than oracle
move away
dusky plank
guess tiktok gets oracle licencses on a good deal
clear ferry
many of my smaller customers have moved to mongodb I think
forest edge
that shit just gets pushed to the consumer so what do they care lol
forest edge
where do you think money comes from? trees?
forest edge
don't think anything is finalized yet
clear ferry
forest edge
ban him!
dusky plank
aight, too much for this channel I agree
forest edge
wyze v3 has a spotlight accessory lol
dusky plank
dusky plank
that switch to 64bit on rpi makes my cpu go brrrrrrr
wonder why it's not scaling down... its idling at 92%
forest edge
mine runs fine
forest edge
reinstall
dusky plank
why? I have no issues 😄
dusky plank
bro, do u even ARM?
forest edge
you mean the year of your birth?
forest edge
it's crazy to think my PC i am on now is older than some of the people in this servver
clear ferry
s/some/most/g
dusky plank
fastest supercomputer is on arm 🤷♂️
clear ferry
For now
forest edge
amazing consider there is a quantum computer in existence
clear ferry
Top supercomputer lasts usually a few weeks or months
clear ferry
Eh, I might be installing a faster box than that next year anyway
😜
It will even be 20% faster
clever mortar
And then the shortly later somebody, possibly you, will deploy something faster again
🔁
clear ferry
Exactly
Top spot is in a superposition most of the time
ironically
I installed a system that was ranked #77, within 6 months it was outside of #100 if memory serves right
forest edge
@clear ferry grats on your promotion from nub
clear ferry
Getting my AWS voucher tomorrow I guess, need to schedule my exam 😴
and do my VCP-NV2020 so my VCP-DCV6.7 gets renewed automatically too
and that damn PRINCE2 zzzz next month too
forest edge
never seen Jack Dorsey before.. dude is hippy as hell looking lol
wet raptor
can we talk about the podcast?
it's sooooo dry.
all you guys do is just read the release notes.
with the charisma of a house plant.
noble vault
is 0.117 supposed to be dropping today?
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
Also, see the pinned messages 😉
noble vault
I saw the release date on calendar as today and I havent seen any updates yet so I was wondering if the releases are on midnight or just kind of whenever
woops
clever mortar
Just ... when it's ready
noble vault
Ah. Thank you!
rapid tendon
Eyy, figured out how to get bbc news minute into my morning automation 😄
Now after reading out the forecast, it'll play some news
wanton bobcat
Alright, for my home network - Dream Machine Pro + nano HD access point. Talk me out of it.
clear ferry
🤢
deft pewter
If it's no PA-RISC, it's worthless
wanton bobcat
haha pleas explain mnore
*please explain more
Being serious. Have to buy something soon for my home network.
wanton bobcat
You folks are killing me 😉
dull chasm
udm pro and apnano's are fine ....dont let these guy heckle ya
wanton bobcat
lol
Yeah I realize it's a totally loaded question because I haven't expanded on what I need.
But the tl;dr is I have big dreams of tinkering with anything and everything but rarely have time to actually do the things I have on my tinker list. Feels like Unifi would be a good intermediary
clear ferry
Long live *sense
dull chasm
i got a complete unifi system and it works great never need to reboot or have problems with connections and speed/signal
wanton bobcat
Question - do I have to buy an additional switch or will the UDM + access points work?
At least until I can muster up some change for a switch.
forest edge
expensive networking 🤢
dusky plank
no homepods in my country 😓
wanton bobcat
I just bought a house, and it seems everything is at least $1000.
Yardwork? $1000.
Furniture? $1000
Networking equipment? $1000
dusky plank
no need for unify though
wanton bobcat
What would you recommend @dusky plank ?
I thought about an edge router x or something as an alternative. and some wired APs
dusky plank
or do you have 300 guests or students in your yard?
wanton bobcat
Nope, probably 100 devices at some point but mostly IoT
only a couple heavy-use devices
Also every room is wired with cat6
clever mortar
pfSense/opnSense for the router. Any decent enough AC/AX AP (or two), and any decent managed switch - Mikrotik if you want good and low cost
dusky plank
I think we had this discussion 2 days ago
clever mortar
And probably two days before that
dusky plank
yep
clever mortar
Thankfully there's a few homelab Discords too, for when people want to really go down the rabbit hole
wanton bobcat
Yeah I think I've asked this at least twice on Discord to various groups.
I'll check out Mikrotik. I've got a couple APs. ugly as all hell. but they work
dusky plank
if you have cat6 anywhere, aruba is nice too and I think a good middle
clear ferry
🧛♂️
wanton bobcat
Checking out Aruba now. HP company eh
clear ferry
Don't mix hp and hpe
wanton bobcat
Any of these APs work to help with room-level presence detection in home assistant by chance?
clear ferry
Also, Aruba is its own entity
wanton bobcat
I just saw aruba's proximity thing.
hollow glacier
Thankfully there's a few homelab Discords too, for when people want to really go down the rabbit hole
@clever mortar i run one of those :x
clear ferry
Room level detection is better done with behaviour than devices
wanton bobcat
I've got RPI zeros everywhere using bluetooth classic, but ain't cuttin it
probably need BLE
clear ferry
Ble is poor detection tbh
clever mortar
Yeah, but unless you embed them in people, it doesn't help for presence detection @hollow glacier 😉
Presence != devices
wanton bobcat
@hollow glacier is there a newb "tell me what to buy" section there?
hollow glacier
https://www.room-assistant.io/ this shit works with rpi's
hollow glacier
get to playing yo
wanton bobcat
right now i get lots of inter-room jumping
hollow glacier
i thought about putting a pi above each ceiling fan
(at least for bedrooms)
or w/e kind of beacon
clear ferry
Because that is poor room presence detection @wanton bobcat
See what people are doing, and when
And base it on multiple values
hollow glacier
@hollow glacier is there a newb "tell me what to buy" section there?
@wanton bobcat regarding?
wanton bobcat
Ultimately I'd like to setup cameras in each room and use some pre-trained ML-based CV models
@wanton bobcat regarding?
@hollow glacier Home networking
hollow glacier
ah
clear ferry
Indoor cameras 🤢
wanton bobcat
@clear ferry not a fan?? even if they're just local?
clear ferry
Never
wanton bobcat
Fair enough
hollow glacier
yea not cool
dull chasm
unifi is not overkill ....not really that expensive
dusky plank
ssshhh the storm is coming
hollow glacier
unifi gud
clear ferry
🙅
hollow glacier
take that shit to r/homelab
people dont need a better setup than 95% of small businesses
clear ferry
Never touched the stuff, just see all the kids who struggle with it
hollow glacier
peri0d
dusky plank
I simply don't trust this whole cloud thing
hollow glacier
referring to cloud with ubiquiti stuff?
like what
cloud controller access via their website instead of exposing controller to wan?
clear ferry
Cloud 🤢
hollow glacier
you dont have to enable that...
dull chasm
hollow glacier
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552316188168814596/771076466892079165/image0.jpg i just got this today
dull chasm
just works ....there are choices sure ...i just dont want to spend time customizing network ......hot rod truck sure
hollow glacier
little $29 1080p cam
dull chasm
cant read that
forest edge
@dull chasm all that for a 300sqft home? lol jk
clear ferry
Warum
dull chasm
@forest edge but barn has wifi too .... chickens are people too
hollow glacier
everything deserves a bit of radiation
clear ferry
Soylent green is people too
forest edge
lol chicken on twitter
dull chasm
yep they do better than humans
dusky plank
Warum
@clear ferry automations based on clients in guest network, duh
dull chasm
@hollow glacier fixing to get 2 more ....will let you know so i can up to your standards .... i do also have nanostation hd's so technically 5 already
dusky plank
gotta learn some norwegian I see
dull chasm
thats for a remote camera 150 meters away
hollow glacier
i think in wall units per room and disc APs for big areas are the way to go
dull chasm
my layout doesnt fit that but i do agree with that in theroy
hollow glacier
yeah
dull chasm
those nanostations will go 3k to 5k meters btw
hollow glacier
obv depends on floorplan and other things, but in general i think that is the way
yeah
i saw their newer BBB devices
those things look sweet
oh they renamed them to UBB
dull chasm
the damn things are about the size of a pack of smokes and have worked flawless
hollow glacier
better to use those for apartments i'd guess
i used to work at a company that deployed/managed/watched security cams remote
we used tons of rockets and lightbeams
some nanos
dull chasm
might even reach @forest edge in his barn 🤣
thats above my budjet and needs thou
i just wished the nano's showed up in the ui as a device on the unifi dashboard
forest edge
this is 2020 my barn has dialup
dull chasm
by chicken pecks
forest edge
I don't have a petting zoo
dull chasm
well if you start maybe the other barn animals will start to accept ya
forest edge
no matter how much you want to find someone north that can exchange with you a foreign exchange student type deal for swapping around your petting zoo animals it won't be me lol
dull chasm
ok i will tell the sow and hefer that has been bitching to kick and/or bite ya 🤣
forest edge
lol hefer.. spoken like a true cowboy
forest edge
they are not called cowboys in california, they are known as organic warriors
dull chasm
poor rabbits are starving btw
tidal bronze
@dull chasm when you say "there" you must be specific sir. There, can be a lot of places to me.
But yep super fantastic in Vegas.
@forest edge I know you are dreaming to go non GMO organic one of these days. Cowboy or not.
dull chasm
there i am not sure but i think @forest edge is a closet cali
tidal bronze
Yes he is. Waiting for him to realize that. 🤣
dull chasm
i know right .....while the keto is hanging from bottom lip
forest edge
I eat chicken, does that make me organic enough?
dull chasm
he is trying to chew
forest edge
chew tobacco.. gross lmao
dull chasm
no the rabbit food ....fiber is tough
tidal bronze
@forest edge @dull chasm so when are you guys going to come down. Enough salivating
dull chasm
us three same room .....would be interesting
tidal bronze
Let's try this outdoors first. Room to boot would be a non starter
@dull chasm I know you got that XXL Sombrero would be in our faces.
dull chasm
@tidal bronze nope a stetson
forest edge
come down? to vegas? cause where you live is not down, up for vas and left for me lol
tidal bronze
@forest edge cali.
forest edge
you got alot going on in your state, I wouldn't feel safe lol
tidal bronze
I got a safe place not to worry.
dull chasm
cry me a river ....... city slicker
forest edge
not wanting to be shoved into your ceder pedo chest either lol
tidal bronze
@dull chasm can you leave the Sombrero behind?
dull chasm
i am good in about a year .... @tidal bronze you got to get a good contact with John Deere so tractor will cost alot less
forest edge
he would have better luck getting in good with Ventrac
tidal bronze
@dull chasm with all of us going green have you looked into plow attachment for a Tesla S?
dull chasm
f no
forest edge
you don't need a plow when doing rice patties in the swamp
dull chasm
@tidal bronze more my style of hat
forest edge
would picture alligator skinned honestly lol
dull chasm
nah thats the boots duh
tidal bronze
Boots ?
dull chasm
yep
tidal bronze
Oiled leather cork soft footbed.
forest edge
the hat make you look too australian or something?
dusky plank
enough discord for today
tidal bronze
You gotta be gentle on your feet @dull chasm why suffocate with boots.
dull chasm
what i have always wore .....
forest edge
most cowboy boots are water proof and you need that when trekking through the mud lol
tidal bronze
dull chasm
nah .....mink oil can help but socks will get wet with prolonged water ..... i wear boots 24/7 .... a baseball cap when working but a stetson otherwise
tidal bronze
So after a pedicure you wear boots all day ?
forest edge
mine were always waterproof when i wore them eons ago when i was young
course once you get holes they don't stay that way lol
dull chasm
well they where not leather as most boots are .
tidal bronze
Boots, waterproof WTH
forest edge
they have to be treated
dull chasm
i have military jungle boots that are .....but total diff animal
tidal bronze
Must be unforgiving terrain
forest edge
but i don't live in the swamp so maybe I never submerged them enough lol
tidal bronze
See nothing to worry about with lovely sand.
forest edge
except heat
tidal bronze
Yep a cork for that.
forest edge
sand actually sucks lol
you take one step onto the beach and you spend the remaining 8+ hours of the day wondering how the hell it got into your ass crack
tidal bronze
Only if you have lost all the tension
dull chasm
my internet is going in and out ....winds are at 40 ish already from storm
tidal bronze
Yesterday was 80mph Santa Ana winds.
forest edge
what? you expensive unifi setup isn't combating the wind?
low harness
Does anyone know if a Quink mini cartridge will fit in a pen that normally takes the full length ones?
dull chasm
my unif didnt cost too much
deft pewter
Just bung a roll of card to fill the gap
clever mortar
@low harness It's been a few years, but last I tried, yes
low harness
And if they do, if they will actually work and you'll get the ink out of them.
Sweet. The mini ones have all the nice colors.
dull chasm
so your stufff is short and you want to stuff it ?
clever mortar
My fountain pen came with the "mini" cartridges, but could take full sized ones too
I ended up with one of the bladder style cartridges that you can fill with your own ink, because I didn't want boring black or blue 😄
low harness
I've got one of those... somewhere...
dull chasm
this comedy gold ...i cant stop laughing
low harness
Got it with the pen 20 years and six moves ago...
forest edge
? because people go through ink cartridges in a digital world?
clever mortar
I still sign paper stuff...
tidal bronze
Sign paper ?
dull chasm
no ....short ...long .....bladders ....maybe i drank a beer or two
forest edge
paper? what is that
clever mortar
It's what trees become when they grow up 😛
tidal bronze
Does anything come without docusign?
dull chasm
i didnt think so ....maybe just a usa thing
forest edge
dull chasm
thats not even a america pic ...get your shit straight
tidal bronze
He fantasize a lot so it's ok. 🤣
forest edge
3rd world people have dreams too you know
tidal bronze
Yep exactly
dull chasm
i just hope they can find a way to be happy
tidal bronze
For some happiness is comparing all day. It is what it is.
dull chasm
right .... good point
tidal bronze
Usually that happens when there's too much missing in your life. 😝
dull chasm
how boring would it be if we where all ...the same income /background /color /lifestyles .....
hollow glacier
my goat is better than your goat
tidal bronze
Lmao
hollow glacier
dull chasm
i used to play king of the hill with a goat as a child ...some of my fondest memorys tbh
static schooner
TIL that monkeys can be pressed into service picking coconuts: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/10/19/448960760/monkeys-pick-coconuts-in-thailand-are-they-abused-or-working-animals
tidal bronze
@dull chasm question is whether your goat was better than mine. 🤣
dull chasm
both where happy goats 🤷
hollow glacier
how does one measure the happiness of a goat
clear ferry
Eat it
tidal bronze
There you go.
forest edge
goats are awesome for deweeding then degrassing lol
dull chasm
sadly .... a animal is easy to judge .....it just wants to live and not be abused and have food/water
last cedar
Goats are great for lots of things
forest edge
goat cheese
tidal bronze
Training huh?
clever mortar
If you think they're bad, try badgers 😉
last cedar
Sometimes being a pain in the ass is a good thing
hollow glacier
my cat trained me to do whatever he wants
clear ferry
@forest edge we use them to cut the grass on roofs http://bdel.no/Galleri/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=4380&g2_serialNumber=2
forest edge
neighbor had one as a pet when i was kid, thing would do all kinds of shit but mainly pick up trash kids dropped walking home from school in his yard lol
last cedar
Anyone see the goat yoga where the goat is weeing on someone?
That is one of the limitations of goats
deft pewter
I'm going to have to check that video out... for science...
last cedar
Yes
forest edge
If you think they're bad, try badgers 😉
@clever mortar no thanks, those are mean as hell
last cedar
I can try and find it @deft pewter
deft pewter
I was joking but thank you 🙂
last cedar
I found it
forest edge
@forest edge we use them to cut the grass on roofs
@clear ferry how do they find grass under all that snow?
tidal bronze
@forest edge you have too much time in your hands. Spiders and trained raccoons
forest edge
I just think you spend too much time flying and not enough living life around you to not havve these experinces yourself lol
clear ferry
forest edge
nice, you just take that pic this morning?
clear ferry
I wish
forest edge
that can't be a picture you take anyways, it's not rotated 90 degrees
tidal bronze
Looks like a Guinness kinda Wednesday
forest edge
had snow drift come up halfway up the door at most here. that was back in like the 80's and haven't seen it snow that much since lol
dusky plank
it was 2 cm snow, you were just a smol boi 🤏
forest edge
i said snow drift, not snow fall total lol
what the heck is that shirt paulus is wearing? looks like a lamp with a smile lol
forest edge
I hope if they put in tips they like restrict it to the notification tab without an indicator except after initial install lol
dusky plank
yeah i can totally imagine a introduction with tooltips / overlays, "here you can create/edit automations, click to go to the next step"
pleeeease also with clippy
forest edge
lol CHoIP
deft pewter
the fight against climate change
Fake news!
hushed basalt
lolok
deft pewter
(just to be clear, I believe that climate change is serious and we should all care)
clear ferry
My wife says I fart so much I'm probably a driving factor
subtle pasture
Just updated to 0.117
Welcome back compact header 😄
forest edge
My wife says I fart so much I'm probably a driving factor
@clear ferry we can smell you from here so she is correct
low harness
Did you guys hear about the Swedish Amazon launch?
They launched today with very little fanfare.
... except they apparently just ran google translate on the entire product name database and called it a day.
With interesting results for thing like "rape seed flower patterns" or cocks and hens...
Also, in some cases they - as it seems - took the price from amazon.de, removed the € symbol and replaced it with the Swedish kr ... which made things about ten times cheaper...
subtle pasture
I'm curious what those names were supposed to be, because rapeseed is a flowing plant
low harness
Yes, but they chose the... other... translation
(from English to Swedish)
Anyway, I snagged two Retroflag nespi cases with usb-c PSUs and fans for $5 each, so I'm happy.
rare condor
ooof many Australian's are going to wake up unhappy: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/41941
last plaza
Web scraping is the worst type of integration one can do. It should only be done in worst case scenarios where there is absolutely no other choice.
light trout
And even then, it should be considered not doing it at all
rare condor
@last plaza It doesn't need to be in there its only used for the radar images, the weather component use the json API
I asked this in lounge but if I submit a PR with it removed as a lot of Aussies rely on it, (every Aussie Lovelace UI seems to have BOM I have seen) would that be permitted (I asked in #developers ) if you'd I continue there.
young sigil
There's already a replacement
light trout
If it complies with ADR's I don't see a problem with that
young sigil
Hold your horses
young sigil
rare condor
Nah I want to bring it in as a native integration
I'll submit a PR with the offending code removed
young sigil
It will be eventually
low harness
Oh I like Tangled. So much better than Frozen.
subtle pasture
A Goofy Movie > 90% of all other Disney animated musicals
low harness
Better music, better story, a main popular character who doesn't just meltdown and leaves everything to someone else to fix
light trout
Nothing has better music than frozen
low harness
Have you seen the Lion King?
subtle pasture
rare condor
I never want to hear let it go ever again!
light trout
Actually @low harness I'm not sure, I don't remember doing it 🤷♂️
subtle pasture
Augh, I was living in a downstairs apartment when Frozen came out... my upstairs neighbors had kids, and they watched Frozen on-loop for months
light trout
But do you want to build a snowman @rare condor ? 😄
low harness
I have two girls, 4 and 5 years old...
low harness
I showed a picture of my wife wearing hearing protection while cooking to a friend who doesn't have kids once. Her immediate reaction: "Was it the Frozen song?"
peak cloud
He’s starting to sound like Jack.
Or whatever her name was that would never let go of Jack. 😂
low harness
I think you're way off.
peak cloud
I am referencing Titanic and his comment of never letting it go.
low harness
No wait... I was thinking of "Hit the road, Jack", not "let it go, Jack".
rancid wharf
No fast talking wear you out -- Just set back and enjoy some sentiments of the season set to a familiar tune https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltjBT_TuUVA&feature=youtu.be
lost yarrow
nice thats actually a song worth relistening 😄
subtle pasture
phew, workday is finally over
cracks open a Porter and starts fixing all the UI oddities that popped up after 0.117 with card-mod
Looks like CSS overflow got tweaked with in this frontend update, and History cards are not loving it
peak cloud
@subtle pasture Might be an issue open for that already, but if not, I highly recommend starting one if you think it affects a bunch of users.
subtle pasture
Already brought it up in #frontend-archived. It likely impacts everyone, but worth asking around first.
peak cloud
Is it directly related to card-mod, or is the stock frontend affected as well?
subtle pasture
it's a stock frontend issue, I'm fixing it with a snippet of CSS with card-mod
peak cloud
Might be worth bringing up in #devs_frontend-archived instead.
subtle pasture
The fix, for reference:
ha-card {overflow: visible !important;}```@peak cloud Good call, I'll head over that way
peak cloud
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
dull chasm
dont be hopping in and stirring shit up @peak cloud
peak cloud
@dull chasm Umm...that's what I do best...DUHHH.
hushed basalt
@rare condor They get that whole The Thing thing out of the way early
The characters watch The Thing at the start of winter
rare condor
lol fe at least they ack. it
hushed basalt
But yeah it's not supernatural
hushed basalt
It's good I'd give it a watch
rare condor
Cheers on Netflix?
peak cloud
@lapis ember Because you recommended static IP, I am curious how you would address the situation I previously mentioned in #330990055533576204. I may have gone about it the wrong way, which is why I am asking.
hushed basalt
Static IP, hissssss
peak cloud
@hushed basalt What's so bad about static IPs? 😉 Please, enlighten me! 😂
(I probably share the same opinion/experiences.)
subtle pasture
My preference is to assign static DHCP leases, rather than configuring each individual endpoint with a static IP
hushed basalt
I try to use FQDNs wherever possible
subtle pasture
This allows for centralized management of IP addresses and other DHCP options (DNS server, gateway IP, boot server, etc).
hushed basalt
Only use static IPs where I can't use FQDN
Static IPs are inherently coupled to their network,
subtle pasture
I mean, using DHCP + static leases solves that
lapis ember
@peak cloud can you elaborate? Tell us your scenario again 🙂
and the reason why I would go static is if you want to use your same pi/instance as a DNS server (the AdGuard addon requests a static IP as mandatory, but doesn't check this)
wet pilot
lol having a pi do multiple things sounds like a terrible idea
subtle pasture
I mean, people often run a number of docker containers on them (HassOS, for instance). They're not terrible at multitasking
peak cloud
My scenario was that last month I lived in a house where I controlled the network from the WAN port back. I had my network setup on 172.16.0.0/20, with quite a few devices setup with static IPs on different octets for organization. This month I am now living in a house where the network is already established on 192.168.1.0/24. Trying to migrate the devices to the new network has been a complete nightmare, even while attempting to assign a static IP to my own machine that falls on the same subnet as the devices.
subtle pasture
For core network services, like DNS, though... run two for redundancy
wet pilot
i switched off hassos on a pi precisely for the poor performance
but that was on a 3b+ maybe the 4 is better
hollow glacier
Pi4 ssd boot is the only pi I’ll touch now
subtle pasture
heh, it actually runs great now. Used to be dog slow a few versions back, but 0.114 or 0.115 onwards are great
I'm booting HassOS from a SATA SSD on a Pi 3B
wet pilot
GA would time out trying to reach out during commands because the things was too much of a pig
lapis ember
If you only need to access one or two devices externally, I'd maybe suggest bringing your router from the old house to the new house, and sitting that on as your primary router, and going out to internet via their existing router at the home - then you wouldn't need to change much
wet pilot
beware the double nat
peak cloud
@lapis ember I only needed to access one device externally, the main server running NGINX. But that in and of itself proposed another issue: external port 443 is not able to be forwarded to the internal network on an AT&T-issued modem/router. However, that probably would have made it much easier to reconfigure the devices for the new network. 🤦♂️
And that is precisely why I said: "I may have gone about it the wrong way, which is why I am asking." So, thank you, now I know a better way to address it in the future!
wet pilot
ATT router supports a passthrough/dmz feature that will take all received traffic and dump it to a target device
peak cloud
Correct, but apparently it won't pass through 443 exclusively even with DMZ.
wet pilot
oh gross
i'm not having that problem right now though
i'm behind said att router and i can go to 443 just fine
peak cloud
With DMZ enabled??
peak cloud
Let me check the settings, 1 sec. Everything I read said that in order to gain access to 443 remotely you have to obtain a static IP through them.
Okay, so passthrough is what I would normally use if I was replacing the default/internal router with my own. Being that it's an established network, that is not something I am able to do without fuss.
wet pilot
ahh ok
i don't trust the vendor provided crap for as far as i can throw them so i went with passthrough to bypass it as much as i could
peak cloud
The other option is "default server" -- which most likely will not work based on what I read, but I haven't actually tried it yet.
Oh trust me, if it was my own network I would setup my own router in a heartbeat.
Just confirmed -- "Default Server" option does not pass through port 443, but will pass through other ports (8443, 9443, 4277, 3306, 1883).
peak cloud
Beggars can't be choosers.
marsh scaffold
Hey guys, bit of a strange networking issue here. Setup is:
- HA core docker (host networking mode)
- Nginx proxy passthrough to local network
It's worked fine since ~0.3x. but suddenly today after upgrading to 0.117, it's stopped responding.
- Nginx reports a an issue with the upstream server (HA core)
- Host machine
curl -vvv http://127.1:8123/times out - From inside the docker container
curl -vvv http://127.1:8123/also times out
Anyone seeing issues like this?
Also duplicated the docker container to another machine on the local network and same issues (one Ubuntu 16.04 and the other Debian 10)
peak cloud
- You might have better luck asking your same question in #449717345808547842.
- I didn't realize that Home Assistant has been available on Docker since 0.3x. I was scared of Docker for the longest time, but finally got around to liking it in the 0.7x era.
marsh scaffold
Oh and nothing in logs 😦
thanks @peak cloud
yeah, it's been the only way I've run it
peak cloud
I don't doubt you at all, I am just genuinely surprised. I started with Home Assistant back on 0.8~~.0~~, and back then it was only available as a single python package.
marsh scaffold
hahah, yeah - I feel like I learn more by running docker than I do in my work 😉
HA uses all the latest and greatest
peak cloud
That just goes to show that open source is the way. 😎
Back then we used to have to build Open-Zwave from source. And it took like an hour an a half on a Raspberry Pi 2 B🤦♂️
marsh scaffold
ouch... and the luxury B option was not much of a bump
I see a lot of people running HASS on PIs though...
Glad I never went that option
you running on a Pi these days? The latest ones look pretty beefy
cursive orbit
I’m migrating from smartthings to ha... is there a general naming convention for devices you all like to follow? I was thinking of including the room/area but it would be in that area already.
Like a smart plug, master bedroom smart plug seems redundant since there is metadata that you can look at to determine both pieces of information
clear ferry
I do light.master_bedroom_e_light and light.livingroom_large_cupboard and sensor.bathroom_temperature etc
makes more sense to me
that way all entities that are in the same room are easily identifiable
then you have the perverse bastards that just do light.0x523k4k12451234
🤢
clever mortar
Most significant -> Least significant is the way IMO
light.living_room_table or sensor.bathroom_humidity or switch.kitchen_table_left etc
That said, a search should find lots of previous chat here and in the forum
clever mortar
😱
I grew up with Big Endian and sane date formats... none of this reverse clue stuff
clever mortar
clear ferry
@slate marsh long time Bore da
clear ferry
Just don't catch covid
slate marsh
That’s the plan. Work is pretty good with precautions and I have the lab to myself most of the time
clear ferry
Ironically, the first place I tasted IRNBRU was in Cardiff
@clever mortar will call it sacrilege
clever mortar
Well, the Welsh are a fine bunch, even if they keep forgetting that any sane language has vowels. Obviously they'd stock the other national drink.
clear ferry
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Basically the same right
clever mortar
Except the latter is easier for the human vocal cords
clear ferry
slate marsh
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
Is just a sentence where someone forgot to put any spaces in it
I've been around here but mostly playing on iOS dev, spent a fun evening asking silly questions on the live stream though
low harness
w is a soft vowel in Welsh. That helps up things quite a bit.
clever mortar
First time I went to Wales I struggled with the fact that their ch sounds are soft, where in Scotland they're hard. Took a while before I managed to not completely mangle place names 😄
low harness
I find ll the most confusing.
deft pewter
That's the one where you have to bring up phlegm, right?
low harness
No, that's ch.
deft pewter
😮
low harness
Ll is a seriously failed wolf whistle followed by a half silent L sound
Except when it isn't, like in pwll.
deft pewter
Wiktionary has this to say. I'm still none the wiser:
No English equivalent; similar to the voiceless l in please but with considerably more friction
I don't even recognise the IPA character for it: ɬ
I had an easier time learning Polish...
light trout
You are still up?
low harness
I slept. Now I'm at work
But I'll make an early night tonight 😴
That release party had me all sprung up
light trout
🎉
slate marsh
Honestly in most of south Wales speaking in English Ll is just pronounced as L by 90 % of people
low harness
I heard a girl sing Calon Lan once... Beautiful song. Beautiful clear soft voice. A little pale blonde girl, so it was like something straight out of Tolkiens elves... then she got to the chanu'r at the end of the chorus, and I was like WHAT he holy heck was THAT?
clear ferry
🦻
last dirge
@clear ferry don't be knockin the hearing aids
forest edge
must be all there is to do in norway lol
clear ferry
clear ferry
clever mortar
I can even hear that in his voice 😂
forest edge
lol
last dirge
ever find something at work that makes you want to go into a murderous rage?
no?
just me then?
forest edge
someone left the toilet seat up?
clever mortar
Every day I was in one part of IT support or another
These days, only every time I have to interact with some corporate IT dinosaur
last dirge
I just found an encryption class that someone wrote
clever mortar
😱
last dirge
that's essentially a fucking secret decoder ring like you'd get in a cereal box
low harness
That's like the first thing they teach you in encryption school.
clever mortar
Worst of those I've seen was effectively a pair of ROT13s chained ... plain text in, plain text out. They knew it was good because they could decrypt it at the other end...
low harness
Don't try to do this yourself.
clever mortar
(need more emojis...)
last dirge
also, it's reversible
it's literally replacing characters in the password with their keycode
it's 10:19 and I'm already done for the day
spark orchid
is facility staff
last dirge
do I need to enter a support ticket for that?
clever mortar
Probably just buy them their chosen tipple
light trout
No, that would leave a trace
last dirge
holy shit this is infuriating
code analysis tool loudly declared "hey, you should fix this weak encryption mechanism that's in use in this class" about a different hand-written encryption class
didn't find this one because IT'S NOT ENCRYPTING ANYTHING
low harness
Just rename it encrypt() -> inconvenience() and move on
clever mortar
Nah, encrypt() -> fudge()
last dirge
forest edge
lol that little girl with the scared, "Mommy!" was hillarious
forest edge
@dull chasm you hold out through the night?
subtle pasture
Hah, been ages since I've watched an Ace Ventura movie, though I distinctly remember the 2nd one being better than the 1st
last dirge
lemme guess
white devil, white devil?
oh you speak wachootoo too?
@forest edge the wind at my place this morning was nuts
can't imagine what it was like closer to the coast
dull chasm
Yea it wasn’t bad thanks
forest edge
new orleans looked under water
last dirge
that's not much different than normal
the storm on radar looked crazy
like 5 states were completely covered
and another 5 were partially covered
forest edge
I don't think i would like to deal with the aftermath of that stuff by living near a coast lol
subtle pasture
@last dirge Re: Infuriating IT experiences.
Yup, every single day. I work at an MSP, so I get to see stupidity across all 90 of our clients
Most recently, we had a client leave us for another MSP. Almost 3 months after leaving us, their new MSP calls us up and demands the password for the archive we sent to them with all of the clients' documentation and passwords
They'd let the original password expire, and being that 90 days had passed, we'd already purged a lot of data for liability reasons
The wildest part is that they managed to run that network for 3 months with no passwords or documentation.
clever mortar
"run"
subtle pasture
Yeah, I suspect they just did fuck-all
clever mortar
I've seen similar elsewhere, when time critical stuff has been ignored until "too late" is a distant speck in the rear view mirror
subtle pasture
We basically had to have a meeting to see what their old primary engineer could write down from memory, encrypted that, and sent it again
Gotta love having to restore from wetware
midnight adder
sexy
subtle pasture
Found the sapiosexual ^
slate marsh
Might have had to google that...
midnight adder
sry darling, wrote it to wrong chat. I had onlyfans opened at the same time ehhh
slate marsh
Really come on, you can be better than that! No need
subtle pasture
@slate marsh Just means one finds intelligence to be attractive / arousing
slate marsh
Yep good word!
midnight adder
Really come on, you can be better than that! No need
@slate marsh ?
bruh you have impressive resume... I
I'm one of the smartest people on the planet but it's impressive non the less
subtle pasture
It's always fun watching people have the "wait, there's a word for that thing I experience?" epiphany
forest edge
big brain turns you on!
peak cloud
Should I run and hide?
slate marsh
That's my default
peak cloud
runs and hides.
forest edge
yes do what all you jeep fanatic's do.. run to your little 4x4..
peak cloud
Hey, my little 4x4 has grown up a little in the past few months! He’s now a young man!
forest edge
grew some rust on it's chest did it?
peak cloud
That, had got big boy shoes.
forest edge
i swear when everything changes to electric jeep will probably be the only one that remains looking the same lol
peak cloud
Yup! Jeep is set in their ways.
Just ignore the grill...it’s ugly. 🤦🏻♂️
And ignore the bumpers, too. I desperately need to replace both bumpers and the grill.
last dirge
the whole thing's ugly 🙂
clever mortar
You need to fit a roof-rack to it
Then you can jack up the rack and drive a car underneath it 😉
peak cloud
@last dirge look at your phone screen and stop looking at the mirror.
last dirge
phone?
peak cloud
There, FTFY
forest edge
your missing the snorkle intake that way you can drive it underwater and wash it and yourself at the same time
peak cloud
You misspelled HMMWV.
Mine needs to be washed bad. It still has mud inside of it from mudding naked.
forest edge
yea that looks normal
peak cloud
You guys are just as bad mean as some of my friends. 🤦🏻♂️ I’m gonna go run and cry in the corner now.
clever mortar
peak cloud
Christina Ricci?
forest edge
jeep people should be used to that tho lol
peak cloud
Don’t worry, we are. And just like the rocks, we run right over the insults.
Let me guess, you guys are Hummer EV fanbois?
clever mortar
Pfft, Land Rover or bust
It may not be pretty, it may not be modern, but you can tear it down and rebuild it with a handful of tools
peak cloud
The new Hummer EV has three huge issues from the get-go:
- It’s fugly.
- Where are you going to find an electrical outlet while off-roading?
- It’s a Hummer.
forest edge
the only good hummer was the first military one lol
peak cloud
Exactly my thought!
The HMMWV.
It may not be pretty, it may not be modern, but you can tear it down and rebuild it with a handful of tools
@clever mortar If I didn’t know better I would think you’re talking about a Jeep...
clever mortar
It's what the Jeep wanted to be when it grew up 😛
peak cloud
I can do majority of what needs to be done with the few small tools I have in the back.
clever mortar
(the modern Landys are ugly as hell and so far removed from their roots it's unreal)
clear ferry
Hummer EV 🍆
forest edge
land rovers are not what they use to be
price tag continues to go up but quality has gone way down
tidal bronze
price tag continues to go up but quality has gone way down
@forest edge pretty bad quality for the price you pay 😩
forest edge
UK fuse boxes are weird
clever mortar
UK mains wiring is ... strange
It has advantages, but all because of a copper shortage after WWII
forest edge
is the fuse box location under stairs normal?
clear ferry
Normal in most EU countries I've been in
Or in the outer hallway
Either one of those
forest edge
it seems strange considering there is a basment as well
clever mortar
Ours is in the garage, but we have an attached garage
ripe zinc
anyone have a favorite device for smoke/CO2 detectors?
clever mortar
Under the stairs is normal for older construction, and not uncommon for newer
forest edge
just watched a ideo where a dude was swapping out the fuse box "retrofit" and he was talking about the location of the fuse box and gas being under the stairs and the fire hazards etc
ripe zinc
a customer is wanting to get some Carbon Monoxide detectors for their business, but it looks like
A- there might be a limit of 10 per Google Account
B- I don't really want to rely on one of Google's services/devices for Business proceses - they just get cancelled too often
velvet horizonBOT
clear ferry
@forest edge yeah, gas is.. not normal, I know the UK and Germany has it, haven't seen it in any other countries I've stayed in
clever mortar
Retrofit gas shutoff being under the stairs is pretty normal. These days it's outside
forest edge
this video had the meter for the gas inside
it had to be like 300cm's from the fuse box or some crap for code
ripe zinc
so ideally I'm looking for something I could control multiple with, in a single pane
throw alerts to email, maybe phone/text or something too if available
and preferably, something that can work as it's own service, so that I don't have to setup a HomeAssistant server for the company
clever mortar
Have a look at FireAngel Pro Connected then
ripe zinc
but the capabilities of integrating with HomeAssistant for example could be an indicator toward me being able to talk to it over APIs etc later on if needed
clever mortar
There's not really any good HA integrated options out there
However... the wired interlink on these things is normally about 9V, so a DIY tap will work
ripe zinc
hmm looks pretty nice
slate marsh
I've never actually had any evidence of the CO sensors working on nest. I guess that's a good thing but maybe I should try
ripe zinc
oh - looks like those Fireangel may only be available in UK?
sorry I am in US forgot to mention that one
forest edge
🦥
ripe zinc
searching for "Carbon Monoxide" with Wifi on Amazon yields a slightly disturbing number of hidden cameras and spy cams
ripe zinc
I think we're probably just going to boot this from our IT team and tell them to maybe try a security company
cause it seems like a lot of the security companies already support CO and Smoke alarms just like any fire alarm
and we really don't want to get ourselves in the middle of the line-of-support for an alarm going bad or acting up
we'll stick to our computers, thanks 😄
thanks though Tinker!
peak cloud
anyone have a favorite device for smoke/CO2 detectors?
@ripe zinc I generally try not to rely on combo devices for COCO²detection. I've heard that COCO²is heavier than air which causes it to fall and stay low to the ground.
ripe zinc
yes I think I typo'd that originally
Carbon Dioxide - CO2 is heavier than air
whereas Carbom MONOxide is lighter than air
peak cloud
Hah, brainfart on my end. CO detection, I'm a derp.
ripe zinc
so if you wanted a Carbon Dioxide sensor, I think it would be better placed low in the room
peak cloud
I've had too many sodas lately.
ripe zinc
whereas smoke rises, like CO also does, so they would both be good sensors to have higher up
peak cloud
Good to know. I haven't done my own research on the topic, although I should, so what I know of the topic is completely here-say.
ripe zinc
fair
yeah the customer asked about Nest Protect's specifically, and I wanted to write back discounting Google/Nest as I'm not confident they won't just cancel the service with like a year or whatever notice
was hoping to have a replacement suggestion to write back with, but I think I'm just gonna recommend to ask a Home/business security person cause it seems like those industries/verticals already do a lot of that
peak cloud
For anyone else curious about this topic, here's an article that debunks the idea of placing CO sensors low to the ground: https://www.epa.gov/indoor-air-quality-iaq/where-should-i-place-carbon-monoxide-detector
Now I'm going to go look to see if there are any Zigbee smoke/CO detectors on the market!
clever mortar
There are
orchid rose
Xiaomi has one for smoke. Is there any good reason I can't think of to make CO detection smart?
Smoke alarms make sense as you might not be home, but with CO, is there some scenarios where it would be useful?
peak cloud
For data hoarders whores? 🤷
ripe zinc
pets could get sick or die from CO
small children when you're not home to notice something up
orchid rose
No pets in my case. And while I do like data, I like reliable cheap stuff even more
peak cloud
If getting paid for sex makes you a whore, does giving it away for free make you a non-profit whoreganization?
clever mortar
Great thing about carbon monoxide, it has no taste, no smell. It'll kill you quietly while you don't even notice...
You may notice a fire, if you're not asleep/away, you won't ever notice CO unless you're very lucky
ripe zinc
the effects also supposedly comes on very rapidly
0 to dizzy then loss of consciousness with little warning
peak cloud
Great thing about getting covid...I can go weeks without showering and I never stink!
ripe zinc
I barely even noticed when I got COVID
orchid rose
My dad talks about how he once got the CO poisoning. Took them a while to figure out what was going on and only after he went to get some oxygen he understood what's going on. It's really scary in a way it affects your cognitive capabilities as well
ripe zinc
yeah it's supposed to make you headache, nauseous, foggy, like you've been drinking, dizzy, and loss of conciousness
last plaza
A family stayed in VRBO vacation home in Florida found dead because the vacation home didn’t have functioning CO sensor. Kids died upstairs in the bedroom, parents in the living room couch dead watching tv.
clever mortar
One of the few signs is on your skin - when I was doing first aid it was one of the things we were taught to look out for
last plaza
Since I heard the news, I added CO sensor to my travel kit.
clever mortar
Not a bad plan
last plaza
There are some nice CO sensors portable ones in Amazon. I always keep a few handy.
orchid rose
Definitely seems like a good idea even if the risk is rather low
forest edge
why would you need a co2 detector
peak cloud
To detect if your soda is actually carbonated or not. Duh doy.
forest edge
I thought maybe cause jeep groupies gathered in bulk and you wanted a prewarning before you all killed yourselves exhaling
last dirge
that's just hot air
clear ferry
@last plaza but where did the co2 come from?
young sigil
I've been in a field hut playing cards having a few drinks, gas heater on. Bit of a headache, sleepy. Thought I was just dehydrated after a hard day. Someone went out to the toilet and the blast of fresh air made the whole room seem brighter. Had a look at the CO alarm - dead battery. Went outside for some fresh air for a while.
last plaza
@last plaza but where did the co2 come from?
@clear ferry not CO2. It was CO. Guess it came from gas leak or something in the house.
young sigil
Oh, yeah definitely CO.
forest edge
improper ventilation for a heater, water heater, dryer is always the cause
ripe zinc
anything burning can/will generate CO
clear ferry
Oh right, gas, we don't use that so not really an issue here 🤣
peak cloud
Burning an inefficient propane heater inside will do the trick too.
forest edge
yea you just die to methane
clear ferry
That is what my wife complains about @forest edge
@peak cloud but... Why would anyone 🦄
forest edge
I never had a co detector go off in any of the homes I ever owned or lived in
ripe zinc
yeah, after someone earlier mentioned that they'd never seen any alerts from theirs I was thinking ...... like how would you even test it's working correctly
forest edge
in the US basements is where the majority of gas appliances are and basements are the worst insulated parts of the house. a single shitty window would probably take care of any co buiold up on it's own lol
peak cloud
@clear ferry Not everyone knows about the dangers of burning propane in an enclosed area. And not everyone is smart enough to pay attention to warning labels.
orchid rose
don't norwegians do the cabin in the woods thing?
orchid rose
wood tho
clear ferry
@orchid rose actually yes, but all cabins I've been in have been wood fired or electric
young sigil
A family died in my home town a couple of years ago. BBQing indoors.
orchid rose
wood still produces CO if you fuck up
dusky plank
darwinism at its finest
young sigil
They were immigrants from Africa. Too cold outside for them apparently.
turbid stirrup
@clear ferry motorhomes do use propane heating indoors
orchid rose
I guess you can't drag those things up the mountains
clever mortar
Used propane heaters many times, from little things, to great big blowers
subtle pasture
@young sigil That's up there with all the people who attempt to deep fry an entire turkey for thanksgiving, and manage to start a massive housefire
clear ferry
All of the camping stuff we have usually do it via electricity
orchid rose
electricity, smh
clear ferry
My father's 60 yo boat did heating via diesel Webasto
turbid stirrup
Propane gas, for cooking in the tent when it's raining :)
last dirge
my parent's "cabin" has central heat via a heat pump
young sigil
Those whole turkey deep fryers are insane.
forest edge
Those whole turkey deep fryers are insane.
@young sigil but omg if you use peanut oil and do it right it's the best turkey ever!
just figured out why @peak cloud wants a CO2 detector. He's gonna build himself one of those security door breath analyzer like in the movie Alien Resurrection. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/HWtwiESr3oaQiH-dYMuOiW88GIURn0aznf17fG199DfdrQTlnx9E9YrKY6EIy2684ijyoOdLiWRECms0h8JMf3R6cb9XDGnqkTZywF_bmwrIDnmFXQs--n6-g_PpAYYReOp6tBJY2I1FBlXpPNUw
peak cloud
Nailed it!
forest edge
Welcome General Perez
forest edge
clear ferry
fiery wigeon
Hi all
clear ferry
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dusky plank
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clear ferry
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