@subtle pasture GT86 first time I am seeing this. Interesting
#the-water-cooler
tidal bronze
dusky plank
Mayonnaise
green inlet
Is this convo leading to a package comparison?
late gate
@clear ferry you will love this since you love UniFi. Unify just pushed an alpha/beta v 6.x into all repos as stable so now people are going crazy by nothing working, ui that is probably 10% ready, settings changed, vlans disabled and even better can’t revert without reset
late gate
Hehehe
I need to find something else, but not too pro. I don’t want to cli admin my WiFi
late gate
Shit never works with UniFi
clear ferry
There's the problem @late gate
tidal bronze
No. Although I am a big fan of anything Toyota @subtle pasture
late gate
If you do drifting in Japan like I did the choice is ae86 @subtle pasture
tidal bronze
Is this convo leading to a package comparison?
@green inlet little late to the party 😆
clear ferry
Heck even the Toyota Camry V6 from the 90s was more fun and a better ride than the Tesla @subtle pasture
subtle pasture
tidal bronze
I was looking for my drinking buddy 🙄
late gate
@clear ferry I just can’t find a good alternative that is waf and not too expensive. Trying to Google WiFi and routers is just shit. The auto gen reviews are flooded Google (if you Google best WiFi router notice they are all made within the week)
green inlet
Get you a couple asus rt68s and dd-wrt.
clear ferry
@late gate my Linksys hasn't been touched since it was installed , I haven't had a single issue, triple mesh in bridge mode
late gate
With Google WiFi I meant googling WiFi
dusky plank
no softball. no college. no fixing. stay home! do it! 😄
clear ferry
I have some MSMs for playing around with just for lulz
tidal bronze
@green inlet did you finish building or still at it ?
clever mortar
I've got some Asus ZenWiFi units, overkill, but so far rock solid - and tri band 😄
late gate
Can they do vlan?
subtle pasture
Aruba WAPs here. Best wifi related decision I've ever made, lol
green inlet
Broadcom units with dd-wrt can do vlan
clear ferry
I don't use vlans on the home network, I play with vlans in my lab and on the MSMs though
late gate
I was looking at zen WiFi and orbi
green inlet
You can get Asus ac-rt68s on eBay for like 30.00
I have three with two vlans. No need for WAPs. Same ssid for 2.4 and 5
dusky plank
these things have their ports on the bottom???
dusky plank
so they're supposed to stand up?
green inlet
Yup
dusky plank
oh i see
green inlet
Three antennas
dusky plank
do they also run openwrt?
green inlet
Not sure if you heard also, no covid in the US. We are wide open 🤣
Prob, i run dd-wrt though
They have a recovery frontend also, very hard to brick.
dusky plank
😣 broadcom at it's finest again
dusky plank
I'm fine with my archer c7 🙂
hollow glacier
my unifi gear works well for me 😛
dusky plank
unifi never reaches speeds like the rt-ac68
hollow glacier
then you're doing it wrong lol
dusky plank
nah, they are good in handling a lot of clinets. but none get the full throughput. it's even shown in the devices specs 😉
hollow glacier
ftth symmetrical gigabit ftw
dusky plank
good for you, not over wifi though
hollow glacier
my iphone x caps around 5 or 600mbps on wifi to an ap ac pro
even if other aps could get me higher (unifi or otherwise) i dont need that kind of bandwidth to my phone (yet)
hollow glacier
that's terrible
green inlet
I only have 200
hollow glacier
lol
green inlet
I only pay for 200 down
green inlet
I prob have at least two kids on some kind of zoom ect too
clear ferry
Lol asymmetric internet
green inlet
And according to my NIDS, my son is surfing porn
hollow glacier
as one does
clear ferry
Feels like 2007 man
green inlet
🤔
midnight adder
anyone tried those noname chinese boxes on aliexpress etc that come with openwrt?
hollow glacier
why would you want something like that to be on your network.. much less manage it lol
hollow glacier
all of them
dusky plank
no need to manage if it just works
midnight adder
well then good luck
hollow glacier
no need to manage if it just works
@dusky plank i was saying it would be managing the network, not that he would be managing it
dusky plank
I said - no need to manage if it just works
hollow glacier
green inlet
If is just works ..... for China 🤣
dusky plank
https://www.mbreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tp-link-eap245-vs-ubiquiti-uap-ac-pro-3.jpg
unifi 🤢
clear ferry
@midnight adder I run a minicomputer from AliExpress
NOK 1,073.33 54%OFF | Mini PC Celeron J4105 J1900 Quad-Core Dual LAN 2*COM Fanless Mini Computer Celeron N2830 J1800 Windows 10 WIFI HDMI 4xUSB minipc
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNRF6qT
late gate
I got the old asus ac5300 ‘spider’ router before UniFi. Though I probably need mesh/back haul system as I have a 3 floor house where WiFi have a bad range.
hollow glacier
https://www.mbreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tp-link-eap245-vs-ubiquiti-uap-ac-pro-3.jpg
unifi 🤢
@dusky plank multiple APs ftw...
clear ferry
Been running pfsense for over 2 years
static schooner
the AC Pro is pretty old
clear ferry
Unifi 🤢
hollow glacier
it is
clear ferry
@late gate three floors here with Linksys mesh, no issues
Even covers the garden and driveway
late gate
UniFi can run without wires
clear ferry
Mesh is fine for home use, come back when you've deployed 1500 AP's shitkid 🤣
hollow glacier
Mesh is fine for home use, come back when you've deployed 1500 AP's shitkid 🤣
@clear ferry yeah let's not talk shit, kid
midnight adder
@clear ferry nice, I've seen those nuc-like computers on ali. I'm more interested in routers, they come with stock openwrt.
clear ferry
@midnight adder not seen, been very happy with this one
late gate
Might look on Black Friday. Usually discount on WiFi stuff
midnight adder
@clear ferry in case you're interested: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32821104139.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.2b052e0eiGEiYr
there are many models with different price ranges
midnight adder
yeah, I picked the cheapest as an example : )
i read some blog post where people who attend to defcon and similar use these as digital condoms when using possibly non-friendly networks
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32570514723.html?spm=a2g0o.store_home.productList_2277321.pic_9
clear ferry
Aye seen similar, including home made
I just don't plug in somewhere I don't trust
And any WiFi or 4g is automatically wireguard connected home
midnight adder
sounds reasonable but I guess depends what you're doing for living, you don't have a choice sometimes
clear ferry
I am smart enough to know what feels good and not, and if i am connected somewhere it is usually via a jumpstation or serial port anyway
Heck, I secure 25000port networks for a living, including other stuff..
midnight adder
eh, you don't sound like your average user
mossy venture
which channel should I go to for bluetooth trouble shooting?
deft pewter
If in doubt, start in #general-archived (not the one channel that explicitly says no support).
mossy venture
thanks
static schooner
looks like some CAPS were removed from the topic here? It used to scream out NO SUPPORT
it's like a kinder, gentler channel now
dusky plank
kids today cry real fast
late gate
@clear ferry just being curious but why do you hate UniFi so much?
midnight adder
they collect your data
late gate
How?
midnight adder
late gate
Performance data collection doesn’t bother me. They all do I anyways
midnight adder
well, i just think that people who are interested in their products often do care about these opt out shenanigans
late gate
That I can agree, but was thinking more real life reasons on the system itself
clear ferry
@late gate eh, I hate anything that I don't touch, also the userbase is mostly people who shouldn't touch their networks tbh 🤣
late gate
So you hate it just because in other words :p
dusky plank
I‘ve seen their real life performance.
and their price for that performance is not justified at least for home users 🤏
late gate
I’m not that shitty lol
clear ferry
Exception to rule etc
late gate
I agree with the performance and range it’s not the best @dusky plank and the business model of eol devices are horrible
I had unify things still selling in the store being eol while being sold
clear ferry
🤣
late gate
Life span is around 2-3 years before they are not supported by the controller anymore
late gate
I was about to say that. If I’m going UniFi I would kept away from the ufo roof models. Those are eol more frequently as it’s aimed on schools etc
late gate
The mesh system is a bit better but not tried it. Not going to drill ufo api in the roof. Waf at 0
Hey wife let’s put a poe cat6 along the wall and roof and put a large round thing in the roof of the bedroom
dusky plank
i know.. youtube videos are not considered good lecture.. but though, these companies don't innovate
late gate
The main reason why I’m on the fence is I’m quite invested. I have ap points, multiple switches etc
And in general it works great
Throwing out 2000 usd in equipment is hard
late gate
I tried Google WiFi and that worked fine if it was just a bit more options
So not really need for business hardware
late gate
Google WiFi won’t let you set a dual ssid or set channel. That’s a deal breaker for me
clear ferry
Wtf
late gate
I don’t think channel control is too much to ask
clear ferry
But Google knows best
late gate
But guess most mid range mesh systems give those options
Linksys and asus
Orbi is too expensive. Lol 1200 bucks for a 3 pack of their latest
clear ferry
I tried the Huawei first, no bridge mode available
Yeah, not gonna happen
But the range and speed was good
late gate
Alternative is double Nat
late gate
Yeah just saying
The mesh that supports most is orbi pro. Vlan support and supports 4 separate ssid. If the firewall could join ip between vlans I would try it
dusky plank
green inlet
@tidal bronze , here is a selection for you 😉
shrewd oasis
Hello. Quick question. Does anyone run a free erp on unraid? if so which one?
shrewd oasis
I meant more for business.
hollow glacier
then no
hollow glacier
i'm not sure i'd run it on unraid vs like a vps..
shrewd oasis
its for a starting business that my gf is doing so she just wants to get off the floor then go with a really setup
hollow glacier
find one on github then add it to unraid manually
instead of being locked into CA
shrewd oasis
do you know of a guide that will show me how to do that? because I have found some but dont knwo how to get it from github to unraid
late gate
Should i go crazy and get this https://www.netgear.com/support/product/SXK80B3.aspx
hollow glacier
honestly it's pretty straightforward
late gate
And throw out UniFi
hollow glacier
go to apps and turn this on
next search "erp" in apps
next click this at the top
pick one
shrewd oasis
ok will try. thanks!
hollow glacier
after that
you just click to install, then you add in environmental variables if needed
and use the dockerhub or github repo as a guide for what environmental variables are missing
hollow glacier
np
trail crag
@shrewd oasis I was reading about odoo recently. Looks nice but I don't know much about it
shrewd oasis
thanks. i will give it a look
tidal bronze
Anyone using noon alarm monitoring?
tidal bronze
Oh should've mentioned emergency cow bell strike
forest edge
I figured you just had about 20 cali's form a group that stood in the middle of the road making a siren sound as loud as they could
tidal bronze
Lol. Trying to help a friend out on cheap monitored alarm, Noon looks interesting
What was Dell thinking making a 130W PD charger for XPS. 😫
tidal bronze
Just thoughtless design, 75W most airline seat outlets. Guess back to SB3
clear ferry
Eh, daily traveller for me is the Chromebook, can charge that with a fart or the headlights of a car
🤣
tidal bronze
lol. Was excited about the i9 xps15. That was short lived. 🙂
clear ferry
🤢
subtle pasture
@tidal bronze I'm using Abode and have been quite happy with it
NOON does alarms now? last time I looked they were mostly into lighting systems
tidal bronze
Great pricing on monitored. There's HA support via konnected.
subtle pasture
Link? I went to the NOON website and all I see is lighting hardware
Nice looking smart switches with touchscreens, though
tidal bronze
subtle pasture
And yeah, I went with Abode over Simplisafe partially for the pricing, and partially for the better HA integration
@tidal bronze This... doesn't look like a product, it looks like a devkit
tidal bronze
Wrong quad 🙂 https://github.com/konnected-io/noonlight-hass
subtle pasture
Yeah, this still doesn't look like a home security product...
Unless you're building it entirely DIY
tidal bronze
I am doing some research for a buddy that runs a few airbnb's lets see how goes.
Already runs HA so if it works, works.
clear ferry
You Americans and your alarms 😬
subtle pasture
Nice to have when you're away from home... and the fire monitoring is nice, as well
Your home security system can handle calling the fire department while you get your ass out of the house
tidal bronze
I only have monitored / connected fire no alarm.
subtle pasture
And then it also gives you a ton of motion sensors and door/window sensors to pull into HomeAssistant
clear ferry
Overpriced motion sensors tbf, most homes in Norway have alarms, very few people use them
late gate
Meh my office is apple fans so got new ipad pro with nvidia, iphone pri, applewatch 6 snd airpods pro snd sppletv. Im not 100% apple but not sayibg no thanks. At least home assistant and youtube music works on the watch. The airpods are very good though for audible
You would not even say no :p
clear ferry
I would and I have, both to iPhone and Samsung at some point
subtle pasture
@clear ferry The Abode base station supports their own branded sensors, as well as standard Zigbee and Z-Wave(+) sensors
clear ferry
Told my boss I'd buy something else @late gate
late gate
If im not paying i dont care. Phone prices are insane regardless. My samsung note 10 i hate
subtle pasture
So... use whatever sensors you want, you aren't stuck with weird proprietary overpriced self-branded sensors 😄
clear ferry
@subtle pasture interesting, none of the vendors here support third party I believe
subtle pasture
I was even able to pair cheap-ass Aqara door/window sensors with the Abode base station, lol
clear ferry
@late gate haven't paid for 13 years either, boss just lets me have what I need 🤣
late gate
But ofc apple didnt put the good 5g antenna in Europe like samsung no snapdragon
clear ferry
The luxury of living a place where you can leave your car unlocked and running for 1 hour without worrying 🤣
subtle pasture
Heh, I could probably do that here. My car insurance rates dropped massively when I moved out of Modesto
Probably because that city has a bit of a problem with car theft...
subtle pasture
Had to help a buddy clean-out their car after it was broken into in the parking lot of his apartment
They popped the lock, went through the whole car, stole his stereo, stole his goddamn cupholders, and then hosed down the inside with a powder fire extinguisher...
It took forever to get all the dust out
Oh, and then we thought we had it clean... buckled up, and started it to leave... and POOF
More fire extinguisher powder, out of the air vents
Whoever broke in had intentionally filled the air vents, it seemed like...
clear ferry
Had to check, apparently we are down to 1700 thefts from houses per year now, that means even stealing something from the outside without actually entering the house
I thought it was even lower
subtle pasture
The funniest part was, after they ripped out his cupholders, they put the drink-can back where it was...
clear ferry
🤕
subtle pasture
Biggest "lolwat?" of the whole experience
clear ferry
Had someone break into my colleagues car and steal an anti skid mat for his cell phone, money was left
subtle pasture
The hell? lol
clear ferry
Damn norwegian thiefs
Armed robberies are.... Maybe once a year here, and not by a junkie with a knife every 6 years or so
tidal bronze
@subtle pasture tested noonlight, text and call within 15 seconds. Pretty impressive. Just an update.
subtle pasture
So the entire security system runs as an HA integration?
subtle pasture
Not something I'd mess with, but neat
I like that my security system works even if HA dies >_>
Especially with how often HA needs to be updated / tweaked
clear ferry
I've thought of getting rid of my security system all over, but it's only $500 per year so meh
late gate
I cant start my car if the KEY have flat battery. Learned that the hard way
tidal bronze
@clear ferry why do you need a security system. Sometimes shit you say makes little sense.
clear ferry
Exactly
late gate
Verisure?
clear ferry
Currently I have sector @late gate
late gate
I got rid of those s long time ago
clear ferry
Only reason I keep it around is really the automatic notification of fire department
tidal bronze
You went on about running a car with key inside for hours is a luxury and 500 security system. Epic. 🤣
late gate
When i found Verisure have a hidden fee for 6 years or so, tgat cancellation cost 7000 even without binding
clear ferry
Rofl
subtle pasture
heh, checking out ESXi on ARM... this looks pretty sweet.
It's now possible to build a full vCenter cluster (including HA, DRS, vSAN, etc) with three Pi 4's
dusky plank
Karen from noonlight wants to speak the manager of the house, I see
tidal bronze
She was very nice
clear ferry
@subtle pasture since vcenter pulls 12,GB ram these days, that sounds far fetched 🤢
subtle pasture
Three Pi4's would have 24GB of RAM, and vCenter doesn't actually use 12GB
late gate
Meh i need to sleep
subtle pasture
I run it on my x86 vCenter cluster here at home. With only 3 ESXi hosts to manage, it uses maybe 4 GB of RAM
Just make sure you configure logging appropriately, otherwise it WILL blow itself up
clear ferry
I seldom boot a system with less than 768gb, I'll be fine for now 🤣
late gate
Its 8am and listen to audible tge whole nigt. Will pay fir this later
subtle pasture
@clear ferry I really don't have any need for that much RAM in a single server here at home, heh
My vCenter cluster has 192GB of RAM total. lol
late gate
Decided to go with SXK80B3 — Orbi Pro AX6000 WiFi 6 Tri-Band WiFi System instead of unifi @clear ferry
clear ferry
My vsphere7 lab only has 64, need to get more, but that server is the exception
subtle pasture
Aside from my Plex server and AD domain controller, I could probably move everything to a Pi cluster
subtle pasture
Dunno why you're making a sick-face, it's quite common to use consumer hardware in enterprise, backed by high levels of redundancy
forest edge
don't listen to him, he's just jealous cause the pi's are too new tech for his country
subtle pasture
For example, see Backblaze. They buy the cheapest drives they can and then have multi-chassis redundancy
tidal bronze
Everything needs to be uuuuge or throws up.
clear ferry
Consumer hardware 🤢
subtle pasture
"You're using consumer drives for enterprise storage, are you mad?"
"Well, we can sustain 256 simultaneous drive failures, so... no... it's fine..."
clear ferry
I don't cater to single purpose systems like that thank you 🤣
Then any drive is fine as long as you scale out enough
subtle pasture
A 3-node ESXi cluster is hardly single-purpose, lol
And is the minimum for any ESXi deployment for full high availability
clear ferry
No, but one that can sustain the workloads I install them for will not run on a pi 😬
tidal bronze
@forest edge didn't see you around, guessing another spider episode in barn country
dusky plank
just wanted to throw in:
my raspberry pi has 4GIGAbytes of ram!
💪
subtle pasture
@clear ferry Which is fine, you can have both ARM and x86 hosts in a single vCenter cluster
Which allows you to do fun things like offload the menial stuff to ARM systems while the x86 ones handle the difficult tasks
forest edge
@tidal bronze oddly enough was busy this afternoon, one of the renters cows go out and went to help track it down lol
late gate
I realized synology ram is so expensive its better to return the 4 bay model for the 5 bay with double ram, 4gb eth wuth 10gb exp
Clever pricing
clear ferry
Would make no sense to have them in the same cluster as vmotion would never be a good idea
Nor work
subtle pasture
vMotion works fine between ARM hosts...
clear ferry
Sure
subtle pasture
You wouldn't have just one ARM host, lol
clear ferry
That was not the point
dusky plank
FIGHT!
round 2!
tidal bronze
@subtle pasture do you use kettles to heat up your place ? Until you do this is going to go in circles. @forest edge ah the good times.
subtle pasture
the structure VMWare hinted at is having multiple ARM hosts per x86 host
And they're planning on embedding ESXi onto NICs, which act as ARM hosts, connected via PCIe
clear ferry
Yeah, we'll have fun replacing 4x x86 servers with 128 arm hosts 🤣
late gate
Vmware 🤢
subtle pasture
@clear ferry Not how it'd work
forest edge
nerd chat
tidal bronze
🍿
clear ferry
Running a minimal os off a pcie port is nothing new though, we've done that in enterprise for 20 years
tidal bronze
@forest edge got any curly fries ?
forest edge
yea but I put arby's seasoning on them lol
subtle pasture
@forest edge It's not really a fight, it's more about right-sizing your hardware
late gate
Right size for what?
subtle pasture
Not to mention, ESXi on ARM allows you to enable vSAN and HA on a 2-node x86 cluster by having an ARM system act as a cheap witness
forest edge
@subtle pasture @clear ferry is use to undersize and can't see past that concept
subtle pasture
So it even makes small x86 clusters more approachable
clear ferry
That small clusters are... Eh
I've been in meetings with VMware people, even they say don't run vsan with less than 5 hosts
Then buy someone else's product
late gate
Home lab remind of mirc and kazaa
subtle pasture
5 Pi's are cheap 😄
It'd be interesting to see what kind of throughput you'd get with 5x Pi4's running vSAN with NVMe drives
clear ferry
Sure, but five pi's shouldn't run a 24/7 mission critical shop that turns $50mill a day
subtle pasture
I mean, with 5 of them, the odds of them all failing is rather low...
subtle pasture
Why the hell would use use SD cards?
forest edge
Sure, but five pi's shouldn't run a 24/7 mission critical shop that turns $50mill a day
@clear ferry actually.. why not? remove the only weak spot (sdcard) and the device is solid
subtle pasture
There are plenty of solutions for running SATA and NVMe drives on the Pi now
And you can net-boot them, if you want to run with no local storage
Then you have 5 nodes worth of redundancy, and no MicroSD cards in play
clear ferry
Yeah, let's run 1/1000 of the CPU power and none of the applications on a supported os or cpu
@forest edge
dusky plank
vmware doesnt like this conversation
subtle pasture
Sometimes you don't need much CPU horsepower... that said, 5 Pi 4's would have 20 cores and 40GB of RAM at their disposal...
late gate
What are you going to use it for?
forest edge
i'm not talking about the convo in point, i'm talking about your reference to the dependability of the device
clear ferry
20 cores and 40gb ram is fine for a mom and pop shop, anything else it would have been great 10 years ago
subtle pasture
@clear ferry What kind of mom and pop shops are you dealing with? lol
forest edge
they make commercial grade platforms using the pi for a reason
late gate
Power is not everything. Like my nas can transcode 10 4k streans on a low spec cpu
subtle pasture
We regularly deploy single-server systems to small clients that only have a quad core and 16GB of RAM, and they still manage to run a hypervisor and two VMs
clear ferry
Smallest server I've installed the last 10 years is probably 128GB ram, and that was a single server in a single site for a customer working from home tbh
subtle pasture
Doesn't take much run run a hypervisor, ADDS / DNS / DHCP server, and a file/print server.
clear ferry
Even my customers with 60+ branch offices have 256/24c systems for each branch, then in the Himalayas and African countries
forest edge
nuc is not the same thing
clear ferry
Y'all kids 🧙
late gate
No need to upsell all the time
subtle pasture
How old is @clear ferry? 🤔
forest edge
a single rpi4 can run way more than atx thinks lol
clear ferry
🦻
subtle pasture
@forest edge Agree
You can run an absurd number of docker containers on a Pi4 8GB
clear ferry
@forest edge I install 40 arm servers in 4u, I know what arm can do, I also know what it shouldn't do 🤣
forest edge
and what shouldn't it do?
late gate
10 rpi 4 cluster vs a i7 nuc for home assistant?
subtle pasture
@clear ferry I'd be perfectly happy to offload a chunk of my homelab to ARM
clear ferry
Mission critical @forest edge
forest edge
ah bs
if it can handle it, it will maintain just fine
you have the same chances of failure with a pi as you do any other computer
subtle pasture
I mean, if it's mission critical, the 10x Pi cluster is probably more resilient to failure than the single NUC
So if uptime is your top priority...
clear ferry
Less than three site replication 🙅
tidal bronze
Talking about reliability of pi, most of optical monitoring of critical infrastructure in the world is run on a single pi. 😆
clear ferry
🤢
forest edge
the sdcard is it's only weak point, once you do away with that it's rock solid
clever mortar
Or switch to an Industrial card 😛
forest edge
i wouldn't trust an industrial sdcard either lol
subtle pasture
Easy enough to connect a mSATA or NVMe drive over USB 3.0 if you absolutely must run from local storage
subtle pasture
And the MicroSD card slot can be adapted to eMMC, if you want to go that route
forest edge
rpi4 dosen't support that
tidal bronze
@forest edge all dam ground defamation monitoring optical systems run on single pi and industrial cards. 😝
forest edge
I still wouldn't trust the card lol
tidal bronze
Most of EU does it that way.
forest edge
I say that but my rpi2 has been running kodi on the same card since the rpi2 was available to buy lol
tidal bronze
Sd card aside although small pi is no joke by any means.
clever mortar
Passive cooling, no moving parts... big win
tidal bronze
Yep
forest edge
they even made the rpi3 a compute module so there was no restriction
clever mortar
Those are fun because the good ones have waterfalls with plastic fish in them
tidal bronze
🤣
clever mortar
Just need the right kind of plastics 😉
clear ferry
👀 👀 👀
clever mortar
And actually, yes yours 😉
clever mortar
At least, y'all own them now...
forest edge
question is, if Nvidia buys out arm what will happen down the road
clear ferry
Skynet
clever mortar
Pi5 comes with stupidly fast graphics 😛
forest edge
that be awesome lol
tidal bronze
Good bye shield ?
tidal bronze
Yep indeed. They didn't produce enough when they had the chance.
Gotta try out the new CC
forest edge
no not online, was going to get it at the store incase i didn't like it lol
I can return amazon crap at kohls but who the hell wants to go in there
tidal bronze
Google store is great on returns. Good as Amazon. Why not drop off at a UPS store or get the label and do pickup.
forest edge
sounds like too much work..
forest edge
the only thing that will bother me about the new chromcast is the live tab i won't be able to use lol
it will be there at the top, staring at me
@tidal bronze do you use youtube tv?
or whatevver it's called
tidal bronze
Hate YT with a passion if not for vanced will never use it.
forest edge
youtube or youtube tv? they are diffrent lol
tidal bronze
Anything YT.
forest edge
well youtube tv is just android tvv or google tv, new name but it's just like every other service what streams local premium channels
although i think they were a bit overpriced
tidal bronze
Don't watch TV, for an emergency got iptv even that not used in months.
tidal bronze
Get iptv and call it a day.
forest edge
people are starting to post videos about cali's in texas since there had been so many that moved there
some of them look kind of funny, not watched yet tho
tidal bronze
I get all my cali news from you. 🤣
forest edge
you should, damn yt is full of cali drama lol
tidal bronze
Because everyone comes here for the clicks and colabs and then once they hit a million talks shit. So used to that drama.
Its old news.
forest edge
lol
tidal bronze
If you can make over $3k a day talking shit why not 🤣
forest edge
you can do that anywhere tho
am curious if you will be switching from blue to red this year tho lol
tidal bronze
Not anywhere. They start all over but to really make it they end up in LA. Just how life goes. Wouldn't make a difference if it's red or blue to people that makes Cali tick 😝
clear ferry
Just go purple @forest edge
forest edge
what makes cali tick is the businesses that had remained there, enough of them move out it will not remain the same lol
@clear ferry it's grey, not purple lol
clear ferry
You mean it isn't avocado toast and smelling your own farts @forest edge ?
forest edge
avocado toast 🤢
tidal bronze
@forest edge it really does not matter to best of my knowledge, you will see. There were loads of things that was supposed to change since 2016. Its the same same if you know what I mean. Lmao.
subtle pasture
I like avocado toast >_>
tidal bronze
Yikes
forest edge
@tidal bronze yea quite possible, but on that same token, nothing is for certain lol
dusky plank
better than pineapples on a pizza 🤷♂️
clear ferry
But what about sauerkraut on sausages @dusky plank
forest edge
@tidal bronze real question is, how you going to live knowing the amount of organic food places drops drastically once you pass that state line lmao
dusky plank
mhm sauerkraut 🤤
clear ferry
Organic food 🙅
tidal bronze
Of course. That i agree. But people/businesses moving out is not a concern. Try to buy a house in LA 😝 @forest edge
clear ferry
Sauerkraut 😋
forest edge
@tidal bronze now i just saw something about housing prices plummeting in many areas around cali not just LA
tidal bronze
As I said.
forest edge
this was not drama either, was a realitor thing
tidal bronze
Mortgage applications are up 170% from last year in LA county. Wife is in finance so I know a thing or two.
forest edge
prob has to do with the homeless rates growing lol
I didn't say everywhere
said in some areas
tidal bronze
Some area don't matter.
forest edge
i actually have no debt lol
tidal bronze
@clear ferry you should
clear ferry
Having no mortgage is bad for your taxes here
clear ferry
Because you have to tax your riches, and if you own the whole house the whole house counts as a riches
tidal bronze
1 paid off although I have 5 more mortgages. Lmao.
forest edge
Because you have to tax your riches, and if you own the whole house the whole house counts as a riches
@clear ferry that's a messed up (what would be a loophole here) thing
clear ferry
If I didn't have a house and I had $600k in my bank account and no debt I would have to tax the full 600k, if I bought a house worth 300k I would only have to tax 300k
Basically
forest edge
if I had no house and 600k in the bank and no debt I have no tax here lol
tidal bronze
Property tax ?
forest edge
no house
tidal bronze
Oh
clear ferry
Dem murica
subtle pasture
@clear ferry No mortgage? Then you should be using home equity loans to your advantage
Leverage the equity, improve the value of the house with the money you pull out, wash-rinse-repeat
tidal bronze
Heloc 🤔
subtle pasture
And the home equity loan counts as a debt that will offset the value of the home on your taxes
clear ferry
Yup, gonna do that too refurbish my kitchen and bathrooms @subtle pasture
forest edge
don't think norwegian have such fancy stuff
subtle pasture
You only get screwed on your taxes if you own the home and just sit on it, lol
clear ferry
Sure we do, I even bought my wife's car on home equity loan
forest edge
@clear ferry dosen't the vvalue of your home go up every year?
clear ferry
Yes, I bought it at $190k 11 years ago, worth $350k now roughly
Just by the area price
Not my renovating
tidal bronze
Heloc is a last resort in my book.
tidal bronze
You don't want to know LA price increase.
forest edge
cali tax is legendary.. || legendary dumb ||
but I guess it now known as the protest state from sunshine lol
tidal bronze
Looking at some property in FL these days. Damn cheap.
forest edge
I wonder if California taxes yacht homes
tidal bronze
Ask me about business tax in LA county. Lmao. Forget the yatch tax
forest edge
not people who own homes in cali and own a yacht, but just dock there for long periods and live on yacht lol
there use to be (or still is) a loophole those people got away with skipping on many taxes
but not sure it was universal around the us or just some states
tidal bronze
Right now close to impossible including sales tax. All wholesale retailers are linked. There was a major loophole in that years ago. Amazon use to ride that wave for too long.
tidal bronze
Plus used to be no inter-state tax
clear ferry
People who live on Spitsbergen pay no tax, so they use that for quite a few loopholes for anything from alcohol to electronics
Pretty place
But wouldn't live there
forest edge
is that an island? not googling it atm lol
tidal bronze
Vegas!
forest edge
what about vegas?
tidal bronze
@forest edge no state income tax
forest edge
that gets made up for in other ways tho quad
the same concpet as the no property tax some states have
tidal bronze
Casinos take the hit for that.
forest edge
eh, there has to be more than that
tidal bronze
They want people to move in mainly.
forest edge
we have a vegas person in here
was it brian?
or i can't remember who it was, need to ask them
tidal bronze
John Oliver is nuts. He got the sewer pant named after him. Epic.
forest edge
lmao
I saw that video about him wanting that
they were like complaining about him or something
tidal bronze
He got it finally. Just finished watching cracking up.
forest edge
I use to watch him all the time but the covid thing made it weird plus after the BLM stuff he got even more weird
dusky plank
I want to live in Spitzbergen
forest edge
no tax at all here would be complete shit
the amount fo services and maintence tax pays for, and not having any of that.. screw that lol
@tidal bronze you in support of making wearing a mask a permanent thing in close quarters?
tidal bronze
Yep. I would flip if I come across someone without one.
forest edge
we must be doing a really shitty job of it cause the flu cases so far this year is way too high for people to have actually been wearing a mask lol
tidal bronze
Gotta jump on a call. 👋
dusky plank
delivery adventure of my sensors from china continue.
delivery time to vienna: 2 days
sitting in vienna customs: 15 days and counting
deft pewter
Do you still have any hope they'll come out the other end?
If something sits in Heathrow for more than a few days, it's probably lost forever.
dusky plank
yes, the fastest I've seen something go through austrian customs was 10 days.
it's just some morons who check everything for a little tax contribution
forest edge
this is why sites like banggood is nice for us Americans. they warehouse much of the crap from china people have ordered in the past so the next person gets it much faster than the first lol
deft pewter
I know a lot of us are used to Amazon's next day shipping... but I actually don't mind it when a product is purchased on Amazon and shipped from China. At least the paperwork is all done so it just flies through customs.
Ordered a couple of hundred quid of no-brand smart switches a while back. If I'd done that directly from a Chinese site and been stung with import tax/fees, it would've been expensive.
Our mail service not only collects the import tax but also sticks an extra £8 or something on top for the 'handling' of the fee.
dusky plank
home grown is best 🤤
forest edge
thought those were blueberries for a second
deft pewter
Don't be silly. They're pears.
sour hare
@sour hare thanks for the awesome tag reader! I am trying to print it myself. I see that you use marble, can you share where you got the blue marble filament?
@last cloak sorry dude was busy Soldering 😂
that filament isn't Blue it's only marble and it's a bit translucent. i only print 2 layers and then swap color for Blue and print the rest of the layers
The make is Sunlu Marble Filament
clear ferry
@forest edge our flu numbers are drastically down, so yes, you are doing a lot wrong 🤣
forest edge
since you norwats avoid each other like everyone else has the plague already how do any of you catch illness from others to begin with?
clear ferry
unkempt seal
Hey 👋 I literally installed Home Assistant last night and saw you got a discord server! Just wanted to say hi here 🙂
hearty depot
Neat. Fixed already https://www.zdnet.com/article/discord-desktop-app-vulnerable-to-remote-code-execution-bug/
clear ferry
@unkempt seal we bite, scratch and pull hairs, beware, watch out of that angry boy @hearty depot
clear ferry
unkempt seal
No worrys. I bite too 🙂
clear ferry
last cedar
Nothing wrong with biting. If you do it right.
clear ferry
last cedar
Yes
forest edge
Nothing wrong with biting. If you do it right.
@last cedar this is NOT that kind of discord serer.. shame on you!
last cedar
^^^
forest edge
@clear ferry pretty sure 90% of the world think you norwegian actually look like that lol
clear ferry
hearty depot
I never seen a prittey Norwegian women.
forest edge
seen plenty of swedens tho lol
clear ferry
I'll show you my face
Silje Norendal is considered quite pretty for a sport competitor
Mona Grudt was Miss Universe
hearty depot
Not what I hoped for.. but ok
clear ferry
forest edge
hearty depot
Internet is for..?
clear ferry
Very few norwegian porn actresses I think, people just get regular jobs here 🤣
clear ferry
Except for the cheesy swedish porn movies I grew up with, I can't think of much
@low harness knows what I'm talking about
forest edge
probably don't accept paper bag over head interviews
midnight adder
thoughts on ethernet to coax adapters vs ethernet over power? i need a wired internet to a place in my house where only copper cable is installed. the other end happens to be next to the router. or just use those powerline adapters.
clear ferry
ethernet to coax adapter ?
Can't say I have ever seen that
Powerline works... for some stuff, that you don't need to rely on... if the two locations share the same phases
forest edge
the coax adpater is way more costly
if the powerline works, you should just use that
but the powerline has some requirements you should look into before purchase
midnight adder
@clear ferry they do exist, but they all look fishy at best... nothing reputable which says a lot I guess
clear ferry
Yeah, coax has been dead for the most part here for .. many years, last install of coax I heard of was 15+ years ago, last person I heard that still used it.. probably 10 years
forest edge
ethernet over coax works, it's stable. restricted but stable but the adapters are stupid expensive compared to other solutions because they are not main streamed
clear ferry
only exception is for big city sky rises from the 60s
midnight adder
yeah, I found them when searching but they are far from mainstream. guess I go with powerline since the phases are not a problem. I suppose those wireless bridges would work too
forest edge
powerline can be pretty stable as long as there is no interference on the line. I had some one time and had a lamp on the same circuit and every time the lamp was switched on the powerline would drop for a second lol
wasted money on some surge protectors that cleaned up the noise and it fixed the issue but ultimatly got rid of them
midnight adder
lol. I have no experience or knowledge about it, but that is why I started to investigate the coax adapter thing, in my mind every time I switch some on or off the packets start dropping in my head
forest edge
one of those things you won't really know till you invest. even knowing there are other things on the same circuit doesn't indicate for certian if they will be solid or not
save the receipt
dim mulch
I know this might be a very dumb question for most but I’m a complete noob to home automation. I plan to flash my tuya switch and install tasmota. However I don’t have a home assistant. Is it possible to integrate it to Siri Shortcut without a HA? I just want to change the PowerStateOn tbh. And all this digging and researching led me here
forest edge
weird being up through the night during the sun change. last week the sun was starting to shine like an hour or two before now and today it's still dark lol
@dim mulch tasmota site should give you some indication on that
i'm kind of thinking not, but then i don't know how siri shortcuts work
clear ferry
Probably not yes
but if you are using cloud (siri) to do cloud stuff (tuya) why flash to local control for one end (tasmota) ? 🤔
dim mulch
Yeah, the thing is it’s a smart bulb holder and when I use the regular light switch, the default state when powered is OFF. So you can imagine a situation where someone else turns the light switch on and be confused why the light is still off 😂That’s why I’m trying to find a way to change that
forest edge
tuya not have an option for default powered on state?
clear ferry
cloud 🤢
dim mulch
I tried installing vmware and successfully ran HA. I thought the Automations/Scripts can help me, but my 4-hour knowledge couldn’t cut it xD
clear ferry
you tried installing vmware ? 🤔
clear ferry
Oh, the worst hypervisor of them all 😜
dim mulch
Using that I got HA to run xD
clear ferry
well to be fair, bhyve is worse
dim mulch
I thought I’d give it a try if this solves my problem I’m buying a Raspberry pi
forest edge
@dim mulch honestly if this is for one light, your better off buying a smart switch and ditching the smart socket
you could even do something like a shelly or sonoff that goes behind the switch or fixture
forest edge
return them? lol
dim mulch
💸
clear ferry
check first, buy second
dim mulch
Yup haha
forest edge
well if you plan to add more and more smart stuff, going HA is a good idea and you may find use for them at that point
dim mulch
Yeah. And being off the cloud is good
I’ll still try digging tho. I kinda like the challenge haha
midnight adder
this yellow character is from the old school vbulletin forums lol. memories.
low harness
Those were the days. vbulletin and phpbb
turbid stirrup
IRC ftw
forest edge
vbulletin was like 400 bucks at one point lol
midnight adder
clear ferry
fallen furnace
I hope I'm not the only one with an obsession with ESP8266 chips
Got a bunch running all over the house
orchid rose
Waiting for 11.11. to order a bunch just in case I happen to need some
last dirge
what's special about that date?
clear ferry
I have 20 nodemcu, 20 esp32, 20 D1 mini at any time in my drawers
@last dirge singles day
last dirge
what?
last dirge
oh
midnight adder
biggest sale day for the chinese
fallen mantle
Plus Black Friday right around the corner after that.
Gonna be plenty of surplus smart lights and switches of all brands floating around.
dusky plank
🌮
midnight adder
just added my first christmas device to hass
just a string of christmas lights on a smart plug but it's a start
green inlet
#TacosAreLife
subtle pasture
I swear, I order one PSL every year... only to be reminded that they're not great...
green inlet
Pumpkin spice 🤢
green inlet
They need sweet potato pie latte 😉
subtle pasture
My favorite seasonal flavor is still Chestnut Praline
subtle pasture
Mmm, Cinimon Dolce...
Honestly, I usually order a plain cappuccino, or a plain coldbrew + cream. Ordering a sweet coffee is a bit of a rarity for me
green inlet
I haven’t drank coffee anything other than black in years though, and from my 20.00 mr coffee.
subtle pasture
I've got an AeroPress for making coffee at home, or a french press for larger batches
green inlet
Cold brew is supposed to be keto friendly no?
green inlet
There you go, that’s what I was looking for.
Don’t they have some butter cold brew or something
subtle pasture
Heh, butter coffee is a thing, yeah
subtle pasture
Bulletproof is a combination of grass-fed unsalted butter + MCT oil, blended into coffee
green inlet
Butter eats? 🤣
wet pilot
i'd rather have it black, thanks XD
subtle pasture
@wet pilot I mean, I can absolutely confirm that the combination does something to absorption
Because bulletproof coffee makes me jittery in a way that the same quantity of black coffee can't
wet pilot
hmm
though it could be the beans they choose
Death Wish coffee black is kinda nuts on its own
subtle pasture
I mean, I used my own beans / butter / oil, I didn't pay for their branded crap 😛
wet pilot
ah ok
subtle pasture
Death wish is good on caffeine, for sure, but I prefer the taste of Killer Coffee
That, through an AeroPress, is good stuff 😍
subtle pasture
Time to detox...
last dirge
the Costco Kona stuff is a good medium/blonde roast
hollow glacier
i've drank so much of that costco stuff that all i taste now is the tears of the people growing it
clear ferry
Is any coffee not these days?
dusky plank
did someone mention air gapped networks here?
barren hound
did someone mention air gapped networks here?
@dusky plank air gap does not mean secure... (I saw some great presentations on ways to jump the gap)
feral eagle
Wish there was an easy and remote way I could reset all of my HA
clever mortar
- Stop HA
- Nuke config folder
- Ask in the relevant install method channel 😉
feral eagle
Oh I wasn't asking just venting 😂
feral eagle
😂
static schooner
Well, you did correctly ask in the "no support" channel, so kudos for that 🙂
subtle pasture
Heh, Pi Compute Module 4 dropped today
native eMMC / PCIe / NVMe support
Pi cluster boards are about to get very interesting
forest edge
eh they changed the connection which fucks over alot of people
subtle pasture
I mean, even if they didn't, it wasn't going to be pin-compatible
forest edge
will say the io board seems to be cheaper than it was before
subtle pasture
There weren't enough reserve pins to add all the new features
forest edge
32 variants for a compute module is a little insane and will likely cause headaches for consumers down the road
might even be partially why it took so damn long for usb boot to come out
subtle pasture
Yeah, comes down to how many different combinations of RAM, eMMC size, and wifi/bt there are
A pi cluster would likely use the 8GB model, with no onboard wifi/bt, and either no onboard eMMC, or the smallest 8gb variant
forest edge
they had other ideas in mind then clusters lol
subtle pasture
I'm well aware, which is why there are other versions 😛
forest edge
handheld gaming devices for example
subtle pasture
Yup, there are a number of projects that use the Compute Module 3 to build handheld retropi consoles
Might be easier with the 4, given the smaller connector required
SODIMM slots aren't exactly compact
forest edge
to be honest it feels like maybe the pi hit that curve and might be going down the other side from here on out but only time will tell
subtle pasture
I mean, we're seeing x86 boards hit price and form-factor parity, so...
If that trend keeps going, ARM starts to look like more trouble than it's worth...
forest edge
I dunno about that, it still has it's benefits
not gonna be seeing x86 mass phones anytime soon lol
subtle pasture
Working on getting my hands on one of these puppies ^
Yeah, ARM still has an edge in power consumption, though x86 is already low-power enough to be used in 7" tablets with decent battery life
It's one form-factor away from smartphones
forest edge
https://www.amazon.com/youyeetoo-Rockchip-Compatible-Raspberry-RCKPi4B-4G/dp/B07XL2JJ3Q there you go, whole kit
subtle pasture
That's not a Rock Pi X...
forest edge
close enough lol
subtle pasture
The SBC in my photo is running a quad core Intel Atom CPU and 4GB of LPDDR3 in dual-channel mode
The one you linked is based on an ARM Rockchip RK3399
subtle pasture
I actually have a RockPro64 here, which uses the same RK3399 CPU
And... it's basically useless...
forest edge
not evverything has the mass community behind it like the pi's
which makes these others boards harder to do stuff with
subtle pasture
First of all, the RK3399 needs active cooling to avoid bursting into flame (and is power hungry), so no advantage over the x86 system on that front
forest edge
the price alone says alot
subtle pasture
Yeah, the Rock Pi X is cheaper
forest edge
no, look again
subtle pasture
The board you linked is $109...
That's more expensive than any SKU of the Rock Pi X
forest edge
talking about a complete kit vs just the board
subtle pasture
The only thing it includes that the base Rock Pi X doesn't is a wall charger
But yeah, performance is... a mixed bag. Depending on the task, you might get more performance out of the RK3399
Assuming you can actually run what you want on the board, because Linux mainline support is still a mess for that SoC
If you want to run emulators, intel tends to pull out pretty far ahead. Larger instruction set comes in handy, there
forest edge
out of box support is these small form factor biggest issue, too many variants and not enough universal support
subtle pasture
Yeah... the Pi (and to some extent, Odroid) are lucky they have large communities
forest edge
but then as fast as tech has moved for them, it's no surprise
subtle pasture
But even Odroid is getting into x86 SBCs now
forest edge
not seen an x86 that is worth it in terms of performance to cost while keeping size and power usage down
subtle pasture
Rock Pi X, ODROID-H2, LattePanda, Intel NUC, in order of ascending price...
forest edge
by size i meant pi size and power the same
subtle pasture
Ah, then the Rock Pi X, or the UP Board
forest edge
all those consume more power lol
subtle pasture
The last two I mentioned use the same 2w CPU
A Pi 4 idles at 3.4 watts...
And, look, the biggest thing in it for me? I don't have to worry about community or vendor support
An x86 SBC will just boot the same OSs that desktop PCs do
subtle pasture
The Pi is, once again, lucky to enjoy as much community support as it does. x86 makes 3rd party options significantly more viable for long-term use
subtle pasture
Heck, even short-term use. My Rock64 and RockPro64 were useless right out of the box, already running on outdated Linux kernels and requiring custom patches
If they were x86, I'd be using them now. I'd have one slapped onto my 3D printer
forest edge
well to be fair, using something other than a pi as a comparison is just dumb
subtle pasture
As it is, yeah, I'm using a Pi, because it happens to have enough community support to be useful even while being ARM
forest edge
it has an os that can run on it, that's all you need to make it into a long term project
subtle pasture
I want to support 3rd parties, but they just can't get their shit together
or they release an x86 board, which... just works...
@forest edge I'm not about to base a long term project on a hacky non-mainline Linux build that'll never get proper kernel updates...
forest edge
I have an atom netbook, granted I still use it to pull trail cam images in the field but for anything other than, it's trash.. useless
subtle pasture
Rockchip might get mainline support... eventually (already been waiting over a year, hasn't happened yet), so maybe someday these Pine SBCs will be useful
forest edge
your buying project boards
subtle pasture
I consider a Pi a project board as well
forest edge
it comes with the territory lol
subtle pasture
Just one that happens to have a big ass community
forest edge
yea but that dosen't mean univversal support lol
subtle pasture
Right, which is why <<slaps x86 board down>> this
forest edge
even that rock pi x won't be able to run everything every other x86 machine can etc
subtle pasture
Well yeah, hardware limitations apply
forest edge
instruction sets etc, all that plays the same role as arm does, just not as wide spread lol
this PC i am on will not be able to play future games cause of it's instruction set alone
subtle pasture
Again, the big difference is I can just run standard Windows / Linux on the thing, it doesn't need to be built for that specific board (even the Pi still has this problem)
forest edge
I have an x86 turd in the closet that won't even run windows 7 lol
and can't run some linux stuff
x86 just isn't spread out like what happened with arm so you don't see that it has the same issues
subtle pasture
This isn't an ancient atom, it's a x5-z8350... 4 cores, 2GHz boost clock, native UEFI, hardware virtualization, hardware AES...
It'll run the latest OS's... it's actually difficult to run Windows 7 on it (7 is rather old, and drivers for it are kinda scarce). Possible, but you'll probably have to scrounge for drivers.
humble pond
It's hard for me to contain my excitement about what I've been working on for 0.117. Who here has an Xbox? https://twitter.com/hunterjm/status/1318352626497486849
forest edge
nice @humble pond , not me
@subtle pasture it dosen't take long for that stuff to become "useless" no matter what is my point
subtle pasture
@humble pond Nope, I primary game on PC... we have a Nintendo Switch, though XD
@forest edge Fair, though an x86 SBC won't be useless out of the box, and outdated before it gets linux mainline support... which is all too common with ARM SBCs
tidal bronze
@forest edge any chance you got one of these in your closet
subtle pasture
@humble pond I like the mini-gamepad on the media card, lol
forest edge
@tidal bronze right next to my dining room table https://atlas-content-cdn.pixelsquid.com/stock-images/torture-rack-device-1V2W1x7-600.jpg
tidal bronze
Lmao. Hope you know what it is. I bet you do since you collect all antiques
subtle pasture
Looks like a clothes dryer
humble pond
@subtle pasture - Yeah, got that from @mild cloak. I also primarily game on PC, but bought into the "Xbox all in one media center" thing years back so use it mostly for that. Won't be buying the new one simply because they removed all those features.
tidal bronze
Hmmn no@subtle pasture
forest edge
yea it's a back support for when you eat too much, it helps level you out.. duh
subtle pasture
@tidal bronze But it's a bucket with hand-cranked rollers...it's for squeezing something otta' something. Mop bucket? lol
tidal bronze
@forest edge nopes. Come on now.
forest edge
@tidal bronze look, you use it how you want, i'll use it for how i want...
tidal bronze
How else do you want to use an ice cream maker. Like I said before, dude you go level up on strange.
forest edge
I think some of the "food" you eat should be used a broom to sweep dust but you find it more enjoyable to eat it so I don't judge lol
I thought you were talking about what i linked, not your butter churner lol
dusky plank
is a torture device
tidal bronze
That's how GTS rolls around the dining table.
forest edge
damn right, gotta keep the magic alive
dusky plank
🌮
tidal bronze
Although it makes perfect sense, eating that gravy and barn food all day everyday makes torture feel like walk in the park.
forest edge
some people run and swim others prefer to do their exercise indoors. so judgy tonight lol
forest edge
i think Californians invented the term brisk walk
then florida adopted it
and noone else uses it
tidal bronze
CM4 and IO is 3 to 4 weeks out 🤔
wet quail
alright, i already have alarmdecoder hooked up to an old ADT panel. but is it crazy to want a (cheap) 3rd party monitoring service in case of fire or similar? is that even a thing?
static schooner
Lots of folks like Alarm Relay
wet quail
thanks, i'll read up on them
forest edge
@tidal bronze dug out some old rechargeable AA batteries and see if they hold a charge. things may be older than you lol
I never really used batteries enough in things aside from the normal stuff like remotes to go down the rabbit hole of understanding why batteries from china are shit compared to japan and etc but I see that is still a thing today lol
last cedar
Batteries from China are actually battery shaped lemons
fallen mantle
Yeah then you have to worry about those battery stealing whores
last cedar
Batteries from Japan contain metals and liquids and actually store charge
forest edge
is that what it is?
last cedar
This will sound silly, Ikeas white rechargable batteries are beasts, they are apparently Japanese. Very low internal resistance, work great for camera flash etc n
forest edge
lol
forest edge
I read enelopes are made in china now
fallen mantle
My favourite batteries are the eBay/Amazon 18650s that claim 6000mAh when the physical limit imposed by the laws of physics is 3600mAh
last cedar
They too have gone the way of the lemon?
fallen mantle
Yeah Eneloops are made in China, have been for a while
Still better than most others
But they're not nearly the quality of their original Japanese models
last cedar
Interesting, I think the ikea ones I have said Japan somewhere on the packaging.
fallen mantle
May have been surplus stock?
last cedar
But I haven't bought any for a while
Perhaps yes
I own like 24 aaa and maybe 20 aa
So it might of been the first I got that said Japan
They work well anyway, hold good charge just sitting and are quick in camera flashes
fallen mantle
I've got 8 of the original AA Eneloops, they hold charge so well. Pulled my camera flash out of my bag after 3 years of non-use and they were still almost entirely full.
fallen mantle
I'm of the opinion Nitecores are overrated.
I got myself a LiitoKala and I loved it.
Does reconditioning, charging of all sizes and compositions, customisable voltage output etc.
Plus if you get the smaller version you can run the charger off USB so you can charge other batteries using a battery bank
last cedar
I was looking at some and was limited to what I could get in the EU. I don't think I ever heard of littokala though, thanks :)
I will look around, probably wise to buy before Brexit, so there won't be import duty, if it comes from the UK
fallen mantle
Haven't you guys been exiting for ~2 years now? I dunno about you guys but this is the slowest bloody exit I've ever seen. Yeah we get it, you're going. Just go already.
last cedar
I was planning on picking up another server before brexit at least
Yeah I know :)
I am British but live in Sweden
Been forced to seek citizenship there after living for 11 years without, to just keep an EU citizenship
Also, not sure how much politics are allowed to be discussed here, but IMO it is silly that it is happening.
fallen mantle
It was a dumb decision motivated by corporate greed, fuelled by lies and carried out without any sort of completion in mind.
My dad is British so I could get dual citizenship but without the EU citizenship what's the point?
last cedar
Exactly
fallen mantle
Pretty sure the Aussie passport is worth more than the British one anyway
last cedar
It probably will be very soon!
Is the lii-500 any good?
They are even available in Sweden if I wasn't able to get one from anywhere else
I just use a cheap deltaV one now, nothing fancy at all
fallen mantle
I used the Lii-402 which didn't have an LCD screen and it was still a great one.
Can't see any reason the 500 wouldn't be better
last cedar
Cheers!
turbid stirrup
I like brexit.. Practically, unlimited billable hours means a nice bonus for home automation =)
clever mortar
It'll be enough that I can create a proper Calvin and Hobbes snow scene by the road
forest edge
@clear ferry why you showing us a picture of the hottest night of the summer in norway?
clear ferry
🍆
forest edge
dear god no lmao https://youtu.be/d1FPvK5nlgE
clever mortar
Oh, I heard of that .... 🤣
dusky plank
forest edge
as much as I hate Gateway back in the day the products were mostly pretty solid.
but like everything else, over time it took a massive dump
forest edge
preview of the next presidential debate with mics turned off. https://upload-assets.vice.com/files/2018/12/04/1543961988ezgif_4_10230373c60b.gif
clear ferry
phew, 8 tires changed
clever mortar
Changing Lego tyres doesn't count... 😉
forest edge
was just gonna ask when he started collecting Hot Wheels as a hobby
clever mortar
Lego turns out to make more tyres a year than any other tyre manufacturer
low harness
Yep. And IKEA is the worlds second largest producer of cooked foods.
Second only to McDonalds.
dusky plank
hot dogs were 50c once 🌭 good times 😢
deft pewter
'foods'
low harness
The ikea hot dogs have always been sold at a loss - on specific order by Ingvar himself.
forest edge
The ikea hot dogs have always been sold at a loss - on specific order by Ingvar himself.
@low harness I wonder if ikea inspired our sam's club and costco to do the same. they sell thier hots dogs at the locked price of a dollar or something since they came to be back in the 80's