nop turn_on do nothing ...
#the-water-cooler
calm beacon
Hey folks! Quick question. Is it possible to use my home assistant installation on the raspberry pi as a bluetooth speaker, i e to stream audio from my phone to the raspberry? I've tried googling it, but only been able to find info on using bluetooth speakers with hassio, not on using hassio as a bluetooth speaker.
clever mortar
Generally speaking, no, but that'd be a topic for #integrations-archived
ashen horizon
I am looking for a robotic mower that is (some kind of) compatible with Home Assistant. Any suggestions? Right now I am tending to buy a Worx Landroid which is reasonably priced and becomes better and better supported in Home Assistant every day.
clever mortar
ashen horizon
oopsi
velvet horizonBOT
ashen horizon
sorry
clever mortar
Worth reading the topics too 😉
tidal bronze
@forest edge which integration do you use with yours?
Didn't know xiaomi made barn friendly roborocks 🙄
fiery sorrel
speeking of vacuum, i was told that drywall where really bad for vacuum filter ? did any of you had issue ?
i've always used my handheld vacuum after driling a hole in it
tidal bronze
Depends on the filter. Usually a shop vacuum for drywall.
fiery sorrel
don't have those ... plus bringin it in the stare will be complicated...
so if it's a big issue i'll invest, but else ...
tidal bronze
Lol I run the dyson if I do anything upstairs can't haul the shopvac 😆
fiery sorrel
also a handheld dyson
tidal bronze
Works fine on this end. But I do have a spare brush set i use for drywall stuff.
dusky plank
I also need one of those
fiery sorrel
weirdly i got the best price from there official shop, it if it may help you :)
dusky plank
gibe me the codez! pls
fiery sorrel
but it's an apple vacuum, or a ubiquity vacuum ... you don't need this one. Cheaper one from other brand do the job as well
tidal bronze
I think dyson site already has the discount applied.
dusky plank
will have a look @ the apple vacuum store
fiery sorrel
yea and you may get more addon with it on there shop, look for a pack that you will use.
tidal bronze
You gotta watch on the free add on pack, they sometimes ship older gen packs with new vacs
fiery sorrel
yea true
fiery sorrel
well in my country the v10 is 500€ in shop, 400€ at dyson
io have the v8 i think 🤔 i don' really care
tidal bronze
V10 and V11 animal
fiery sorrel
you can vacuum your cat/dog ? :P
dusky plank
hmmm
fiery sorrel
dusky plank
that is not cheap, I will wait 😛
tidal bronze
Checkout Costco. They always run deals on these.
dusky plank
I'm in €uroland
fiery sorrel
it's an apple vacuum ... not cheap, and maybe slightly better than other brand.
You may not want a dyson if you look for sub 300
i'm serious, Dyson have a huge markup for there name, the motor they market as "in house" is just a philipe digital motor that you can found in many other brand
and most of the other also use cyclonique vacuum type now
clever mortar
V10/V11 are about as good as you can get in the cordless ones anyway, so they won't be cheap
Depends on your budget though...
fiery sorrel
true, but you can get a bit less power (and a bit more weigh) for way less money
clever mortar
Yeah, you can still get really good ones for £300/€300
Bosch Athlet Ultimate BCH732KTGB rates highly apparently
fiery sorrel
agreed, v8 and v9 would surely be around this, but under 300 ? Will be hard
clever mortar
Yeah, the lower you go the worse they get
fiery sorrel
with my 2 robot, i only use the handheld one for 1 off, or to clean the couch and stuff... not sur it was worth buying a dyson
clever mortar
We have a very old Dyson, not cordless, but it copes really well with the dog's fur
fiery sorrel
the big yellow one ?
clever mortar
Not yellow, but yeah, that generation - it's about 10 years old
Maybe a little older actually
Still works well, it a "little" battered and worn 😄
fiery sorrel
my dad had one, first bagless vacuum i got to see, was awesome
clever mortar
We'll probably buy one of the Dyson V11, or maybe the Samsung Jet, when the time comes
dusky plank
yeah with the robot I actually just need the dyson for a staircase... I will have a look out on some deals for the dyson though
clear ferry
I bought a Dyson V6 on sale, currently lasted 3x any of the others I've ever owned, all from Electrolux to Philips
fiery sorrel
anyone had to swap the battery cell of a handheld yet ?
clear ferry
Yes
fiery sorrel
easy ?
fiery sorrel
damn it's not glued in ?
clear ferry
Nope
fiery sorrel
i never looked at how i could open mine
clear ferry
Might have even been one screw
fiery sorrel
that's sweat, it' beeing pluged 24/7 kind of scare me, but it so confortable
clear ferry
Was a known issue apparently, happened after a year already
fiery sorrel
mine are 3Y old now, never runed out of battery but rarely use the turbo mode
clear ferry
I have turbo on always
But I only use it when I need to clean up spills mostly
Roborock cleans kitchen every night, and whenever me and the wife leaves the house it cleans the rest of the main floor
fiery sorrel
i find it warm up really fast in turbo
i sooo want to vacuum at night, but the irobot 980 is noisy as hell 😠
And the roborock is upstare
solid edge
long term opinion about the Dyson V6: Reduced suction from accumulation around the cyclone/cyclone returns is friggin impossible to clean out and requires stripping it down to its tiniest bits to get at.
It's also been struggling with the BMS cutting out at full load again, but I think that's a combination of an unwashably plugged filter and aging batteries
it's a competent vacuum for sure. My home is largely wood floors, so I picked up the parquet head and loved the massive runtime improvement it granted was fabulous, though it constantly clogs with pet hair
clear ferry
Haven't noticed anything yet, had it for 3 years so far, scooping up a lot of baking goods and my daughter's liver paste sandwiches 🤣 🤣
solid edge
I noticed that once it begins to accumulate, it just goes nuts
the more surface area there is for crap to settle on, the more settles on!
For most standard vacuuming, I ahve a Miele C2 which does a fabulous job. Not automated, of course.
and I picked up an Eufy 11 at a thrift store for $25. That things's a champ
keen pier
Anyone found RFXtrx433E/XL in stock anywhere? Seems pretty hard to get
fiery sorrel
i had a issue were i washed the fiter and didn't let it dry enough, now it always smell a bit ... but not worth changing them 😅
bought one a couple month ago, but in europe @keen pier
if you are in europe i can send you the shop i found it in
keen pier
Thanks. I found one supplier near me, charging 2x normal price because of scarcity
fiery sorrel
i don't know if it's because of the thing, or if the company had issue. I remamber another dual band rf stick that was in the market, but the company went ender :(
keen pier
I want it to control a somfy rts device. There’s an rpi project, but by the time I order the parts from China, could be months
fiery sorrel
it took me a bit to get it to work (i use it through a socat proxy, and geting the entity id correctly wasn't easy at first) but it work well and i can close my neighbour windows when they walk around naked
keen pier
I’ve found two places in EU with it, neither ship outside EU
I wonder if they’re discontinued/can’t get them manufactured anymore
fiery sorrel
the hell Oo
you need to open the windows once in a while
deft pewter
Way too good looking to be you.
fiery sorrel
your eyes seam like they haven't look at anything else than a screen in ... years ?
clear ferry
There is something else?
fiery sorrel
the lack of skintone make me think you havn't been exposed to the sun for a while (no skin = no skintone)
late gate
@clear ferry awh you even made the time and effort to doll yourself up for us.
deft pewter
It was more of a shock nut.
dusky plank
tips fedora
fiery sorrel
i'm sorry, but as a professional, i only tips redhat.
what ... it was funny in my head
dusky plank
I can only imagine the guys you stole them from...
under the shower
crying
eating chocolate chips
fiery sorrel
yummy 😋
late gate
I need to reset all my outside hue lamps to remove the hue hub, but been prosponing it for weeks. Not looking forward going around with a laptop and touchlink in a cold and wet garden
clear ferry
I actually had to really stuff my bag when I came home from vmworld, I brought 2 changes with me, so 1/4 full bag, but I had to fill my entire suitcase and my backpack when I left
green inlet
With creeper dude hats?
fiery sorrel
i wanted to go to the 2018 edition, but now that they bought saltstack, i will have to go to the next one in 2055~
dusky plank
lol, every channel is lounge today
clear ferry
With the current pace I'll guess I'll probably attend aws reinvent soon 😬
Lounge Saturday
fiery sorrel
aws is realy not intresting to me right now ... i'm not a cloud guy :)
fiery sorrel
dark site ?
light trout
No lights
clear ferry
Sites not connected to any other networks, sometimes a few kilometres inside a mountain
fiery sorrel
oh :)
that is nice !
and hard
i used to work on a network country wide, but without any external access, getting Yum repo on DVD was FUN !
the workstationg had glued USB port, to make sure no data would get out
clear ferry
I can't bring anything with me, if I connect anything it has to stay
fiery sorrel
yup same
then i change job and now i work on cooking website and gaming forum ...
not the same mindset
clear ferry
I like being challenged, my boss knows this, if I'm not challenged I'll leave
green inlet
I have been calling you challenged for years
fiery sorrel
me to, exept i don't leave, i do my job and get depressed ...
clear ferry
Then you should leave
fiery sorrel
i know, but i also can't really ... it's a bad time, and maybe more chalanging stuff will comme around when it's nolonger a bad time
clever mortar
It's never a bad time to polish your resume/CV and start talking to recruiters/friends
fiery sorrel
i am mostly bumb off that they replace the techk i was leading (saltstack) by a something less powerfull ... (ansible) ... but i'll work with it
clever mortar
Also, there's still lots of jobs opening up out there
fiery sorrel
i have started to remake my CV into a blog with HUGO templating, just for fun
dusky plank
hey, ansible is great
fiery sorrel
i'll push on it what i have learnd, and it will be a good vitrine for recruiters i think
Yea mstone, it's great, but it's not made to manage 8000 server
that are all more or less not the same
then it's a mess to manage it correctly, and they refused us a training cours with a company that are used to bigger infrastructure ...
but don't bother... i am pissed at the techno because it's not the one i wanted (plus we have to redo all the work), i'll work with it and do my best to make it work :) that's my job to
well, later people (and Thinkerer who is still a bot until proven otherwise) Bed is calling :)
dusky plank
k8s + helm + ansible = ❤️
fiery sorrel
it's fun and easy as long as you do small project with it. a bit less when you try to centralise everything in one :)
clear ferry
I should learn k8s too, but I'll probably end up learning tanzu and ezmeral
dusky plank
time will come
fiery sorrel
this is what i used for k8
https://github.com/kelseyhightower/kubernetes-the-hard-way/blob/master/docs/01-prerequisites.md
prety good to realy understand how it work
clear ferry
🤣 🤣 🤣
Also, from 4:00
Is your Home Assistant installation properly configured for secure remote access? Are you sure?
I ran a quick search on Shodan and found over 36,000 publically accessible Home Assistant installations with no SSL certificate installed.
dusky plank
hm, that sounds interesting for a lazy sunday
watch people storm to discord while you disturb their HA setups
dusky plank
password: razpberry```
https://i.imgur.com/seDqlXV.gif
I do however like to mess with automated phone services...
"Do you want to have information about X? Press '1' now!
Me: 5873495873458973498573498573485#345##345345#3##000345034534
service worker: Hello, are you alright?
clear ferry
I still remember when my local cinema back in 98 tried to introduce speak to order tickets
Jesus fookin Christ that was useless
dusky plank
they existed in 98? jeez I upgraded from floppys to discs about there
clear ferry
dusky plank
clear ferry
I remember dabbling in Gentoo in 2003/4
I did stage 1 on my pentium 4
Took 24 hours to install
Thank goodness I had a sleeping disorder at the time
And skipped college to watch star wars
forest edge
@forest edge which integration do you use with yours?
@tidal bronze the Azkaban 1% what else?
tidal bronze
Oh good, that means the notification BELL works as well 👍
north ether
Anyone know of a smart RGB bulb I can replace this with?
I guess it doesn’t NEED to be RGB, but I’d prefer it
dull chasm
one the same size?
north ether
Yeah
tidal bronze
Any PAR30
north ether
The flood-style light
dull chasm
then you need the 30par
north ether
Ok, so if I search PAR30 RGB, I should start seeing some options
tidal bronze
Yes
dusky plank
did someone say 30 and PAR?
forest edge
careful, outdoor disco lighting attracts norwegians in the middle of the night
north ether
If anyone has recommendations that will work with HA, I’m all ears :)
dull chasm
and flyovers by strange califiornians
clear ferry
I thought someone said 3PAR, but it was just two old men bickering about flood lights
tidal bronze
@dull chasm must be late for that Graaaaavy
north ether
Am a strange Californian, can confirm
forest edge
parkour
forest edge
if the homeless numbers keep climbing the rabbits will just adapt to becoming meat eaters
tidal bronze
Here I am already to bake some tatoes no tatoes in the kitchen.
dull chasm
+1 for rabbit
dusky plank
tidal bronze
Did amazon buy blumhouse or what ?
@dusky plank is that how you guys do it over there ?
Tatoes with a click in the step
dusky plank
yes, with some ancient roombas in the backpack
dull chasm
i am dying here ....that so makes me think of atx ^^^^^^
tidal bronze
After Sonoma everything makes me think of atx. Specially when plugging in anything
@green inlet don't tell me you going lite today as well.
forest edge
you guys thinking of atx a little much lol
tidal bronze
All because of you.
dusky plank
i join in on the saturday drinking game
forest edge
don't give him the satisfaction!
tidal bronze
How can I not crack up thinking about his kettle and the power meter.
clear ferry
🧛♂️
dusky plank
oh it's sunday already
tidal bronze
I sometimes wonder how atx mounts his HP rack to his backpack for portable music. Because anything less than a RACK is shit to Norway standards. @forest edge
forest edge
pretty sure they just strap stuff to the back of a moose
tidal bronze
This sucks, driving to the store for tatoes
clear ferry
⛹️♀️ ⛹️♀️ ⛹️♀️
tidal bronze
@dull chasm so gravy and ......?
tidal bronze
And you? Soy and......?
forest edge
soy is gross
tidal bronze
That's what you guys make right ?
forest edge
as in some farms grow soy? sure, doesn't mean we eat it lol
dull chasm
@tidal bronze gravy and anything ....duh
trail crag
spicy ginger miso "flu killer" soup is the only soy I like
forest edge
@clear ferry get many tips so far? https://youtu.be/6HsLrDvfloo
midnight adder
SPIT on
got a notification we talk about SOY lads
Prepare your prostate. If you engaged in COHERENT philosophical discourse I think I probably WOULDN'T criticize you, or at least I wouldn't condemn or dismiss you, even if I felt your coherent worldview did not correspond to reality. The problem is there is NO "coherence" to what you say. You just snatch catch-phrases out of the air and apply them to huge swathes of ideas you have never made even an attempt to familiarize yourself with
forest edge
i can only eat limited spicy food lol
dull chasm
gravy is the spice of life ....
tidal bronze
Oh boy
Things don't have to be always spicy to be good.
dull chasm
wth was that rant about above
tidal bronze
Mentioned that he/she was not feeling well yesterday. So gotta give some time.
dull chasm
oO okay i guess
tidal bronze
What's the fastest way to bake potatoes
forest edge
What's the fastest way to bake potatoes
@tidal bronze microwave
tidal bronze
Come on now.
dull chasm
shake and bake
tidal bronze
Shake what though
dull chasm
hell i dont know i cant cook water
forest edge
Come on now.
@tidal bronze no joke and these https://www.amazon.com/Microwave-Potato-Cooker-Express-Pouch/dp/B01JYVK154 actually work really really well
forest edge
uh.. no
you do understand how a microwave works right? it dosen't alter the taste lol
tidal bronze
I do, the question is whether you do
forest edge
of course, put on your little veggie running shorts, grab onto the back of a moving vehicle and try and keep up running.. that heat that generates as you run is the same concept
except the potato dosen't need to run
dull chasm
put on exhast manifold ...i have seen that done
tidal bronze
I would expect a much grown up answer from a barn toddler. Oh well
@dull chasm not everyone has Optimus prime parked in the driveway
forest edge
grown up, my answer is spot on.. same as Robin Williams answer to the teach in patch adams when he pointed to the colon and Robin said it was the "poop chute"
dull chasm
man we tried @forest edge
forest edge
@dull chasm this is why the state is in such disarray, damn californians never listen to reason
dull chasm
makes sense to me
tidal bronze
No MW food here.
forest edge
you got issues
tidal bronze
LMAO
brittle agate
north ether
Anyone have any recommendations for zigbee hubs?
rapid tendon
found a box for housing my new sensor until i can build/3d print something permanent 😄
and found my label maker can do asset tag style prints
trail crag
@tidal bronze combo of microwave to get them started, and finish in the oven if you like the crispier skin. Less time than straight up oven. Fastest is pressure cooker/instant pot but not a good skin that way.
Slowest is smoked baked potato
forest edge
don't mention MW to him, i think he's allergic
trail crag
ah the grill...probably want foil
forest edge
so if your gonna do that, wrap them in aluminum foil lmao
tidal bronze
Done with foil. Getting skin crisp
forest edge
pour some gas on it and watch it cook
trail crag
5 min per potato in the microwave gets them a good head start
hollow glacier
I made this yesterday
Blackened tilapia, black beans, and coconut rice 🍚
I subbed out water for a can of coconut 🥥 milk
frigid portal
I'm getting sick and tired of this craziness. Home Assistant won't stay connected to my Wi-Fi
hollow glacier
get better stuff
frigid portal
HA = 💩
hollow glacier
mine runs rock solid in a vm on my server
and ran solid as a docker container
imo hass shouldnt be on wifi anyways
granite hare
@frigid portal your device connects to your WiFi, not Home Assistant itself
frigid portal
My piece of shit Netgear c6220 gateway it's constantly disconnecting Wi-Fi from everything. My Raspberry Pi running HA won't reconnect once the Wi-Fi is back online. I got an RMA on the gateway and it's getting sent back first thing Monday morning. In the meantime what the hell am I supposed to do? I don't want to have to reboot my Raspberry Pi every time the Wi-Fi goes down.
frigid portal
Because I'm out of ethernet ports to plug into. There's only two on this piece of shit gateway.
static schooner
no switch/hub?
frigid portal
No
static schooner
hard to imagine how one has an Internet connection with only 2 ports total, but I guess
static schooner
it's not that I don't believe you, just that it's surprising that you haven't had the need or desire to expand
frigid portal
I had to put a PC fan on the top of the damn thing to keep it from overheating.
static schooner
anyway, that's the easy solution - get a switch
frigid portal
Isn't there a way to configure home assistance so that the Raspberry Pi will reconnect when the Wi-Fi comes back online? I'm totally clueless when it comes to this crap. I just switched from Google home to home assistant recently because I don't want my home automation system to be on the cloud anymore. I've already had my shit screwed up by ifttt's bullshit. I'm done with cloud based nonsense.
Damn autocorrect
static schooner
This belongs in #330990055533576204 , but I doubt you'll find many folks who rely on Wifi for Home Assistant connectivity
frigid portal
I ran out of room to plug in an ethernet cord so I had to go with Wi-Fi. I have an OBI200 ATA and a lutron caseta smart bridge pro using up my ethernet ports.
forest edge
it should reconnect on it's own, it's just not instant
frigid portal
static schooner
so...much...support
frigid portal
If I didn't have chronic pain in my ankles I'd say screw it all and go back to old-fashioned light switches, but I can't walk worth a shit anymore.
forest edge
so if you only have two ports and have to run an external fan to keep it from overheating why you trying to turn a turd into gold? get a better router
hollow glacier
or buy a $20 unmanaged 5port switch...
forest edge
get a better router, the external fan issue takes priority over a switch lol
frigid portal
Netgear is replacing it for me but I have to pay to ship the old one back. I'm just trying to get a couple more days use out of it.
forest edge
still a turd if it only has two ports
static schooner
there are a surprising number of 10/100 switches out there, but a Gigabit switch is about $12 with free one-day shipping
hollow glacier
fast ethernet... shudders
tidal bronze
HA = 💩
Phew, glad I kept reading, almost switched to openhab
frigid portal
@tidal bronze I'm seriously tempted.
tidal bronze
I think you are tripping on the wrong element.
frigid portal
@hollow glacier tell it to netgear. Their products are shit.
tidal bronze
@frigid portal did you try the netgear discord channel? What was their feedback like ?
frigid portal
Netgear doesn't have a discord channel as far as I can tell
calm rampart
hollow glacier
should be able to follow it to github and star there no?
tidal bronze
@forest edge 1st and the last time asking you for any cooking tips. Didn't know you had microwave farm 😳
@hollow glacier 5 aps and 9 clients?🤔
hollow glacier
tidal bronze
Kudos to the dedication 👏
hollow glacier
the in walls are $100 a piece so not too pricey
also it lied
3 aps
it says 4 in ui but it's 3
and you said 5
derp all around
tidal bronze
Lol
hollow glacier
ap ac pro ($150 or so) and two in wall ap (non HD models)
i'd put the in walls in each room if i did it again
that's my upgrade path
tidal bronze
Non HD wall ap is pretty good.
hollow glacier
yeah
tidal bronze
Lol no.
dull chasm
well @tidal bronze you do have Sonoma 🤣
tidal bronze
Yep. There you go.
tidal bronze
steel crag
the rest are wired.
dull chasm
man i thought i had too much at 80 clients
dull chasm
yep i have no problems with mine niether
tidal bronze
As long as 2.4 channels don't overlap on near by ones things are golden.
hollow glacier
i played around with making my own picture elements card today https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/743144302334443622/767140071907786792/floorplan-test-2.png
north ether
I see some discussion about switches above.. I'm actually trying to get rid of a gigabit PoE switch if anyone is looking to buy :)
dull chasm
channels not signal @forest edge
forest edge
I didn'tread that two were just extending
tidal bronze
They are spaced out as well.
golden crane
Hi, New here... I'm a coder, but kind of still confused and haven't found a clear doc about how to install an integration that is on the website, but not in the gui. Do I download the git repo and put it where? My setup is is using the rasberry pi, and "Get Started" setup. It's working for my auto discovered devices that had the ability to install the integration over the GUI.
forest edge
@golden crane #integrations-archived
golden crane
Sorry should I repost that there?
green inlet
@golden crane , go to #integrations-archived and I will try and help you.
golden crane
Ok thanks. Just did
hushed basalt
For you devs out there, any of you ever used BDD/cucumber?
sonic wind
Hi all - question about Apple Tv + Plex. I want to do a one-click to 1) turn on apple tv, 2) open Plex app and 3) play playlist on Plex. I have 1 & 3 covered. Can 2 be covered too? - which sub should i be posting this in?
supple moss
AI. Is there a thing for HA yet that "learns" from your activities?
i really want to see something that watches my daily smart home activity and builds automations based on it
dull chasm
sure come back in 30 years
supple moss
nah this is today technology
Siri does it all the time
"You usually listen to this podcast when your bluetooth connects to this car. shall i play it?"
supple moss
I mean, there's a logbook/history. just need to run that output through some open source machine learning
worn jasper
That would actually be pretty cool but at the same time if you notice your doing the same thing consistently you can just build the automation yourself
last cedar
@supple moss make an integration for it. It sounds like something people would part with good money for. Great idea btw.
clear ferry
People are patterns
Or..... Most people are, especially with music
Which is why #tags-archived makes sense to some people
Who listen to the same music every day every week every month every year 
subtle pasture
Put me into the latter camp, as well. lol
last cedar
Fairy snuff!
subtle pasture
All my networking hardware here at home is either Cisco or Aruba
last cedar
I thought their access point was expensive, went with a tp-link and been monumentally happy
subtle pasture
Having Cisco switches end-to-end is nice... very nice...
last cedar
Looking at going to Aruba 1930 switches if I can tame the fan
subtle pasture
I had a tp-link access point... ditched it because it had some pretty massive functional/security issues with IPv6, and tp-link refused to patch my model
last cedar
A 24 with poe and a 24 without, gives 6 10gb ports total
subtle pasture
Their official solution was to buy a newer unit...
last cedar
Aha, interesting. Still on ipv4 here
dusky plank
unifi does NOT give you full speed. it max be great with 300 wifi clients on a campus but at home i want the full speed for my 80 clients.
at the price point of unifi, this makes no sense
subtle pasture
"Lol, sorry we sold you a WAP that leaks IPv6 broadcast traffic across VLANs. Sucks to be you!"
last cedar
I just hate that their blue lights are different hues of blue, and don't line up :/
Which was it Leapo?
Have a hardware version 1 eap245
subtle pasture
That'd be the one I had... oh boy...
So, you won't notice anything wrong unless you enable IPv6 and have two VLANs going to the WAP
last cedar
Caps out at 1.4.0 firmware iirc
The newer ones are on 2 something, or were
Plan is to replace it with a 6e unit
subtle pasture
If you have a guest network, you're probably piping two VLANs to it, which is where the problems start
last cedar
In about 2028 when it is stable
I have 3 ssids using 2 different vlans iirc
No guest. So I should be running into issues
subtle pasture
Any IPv6 broadcast traffic will leak across VLANs, resulting in things like DHCP6 being completely broken (devices will get an IP and gateway for a network they're not supposed to be able to access)
last cedar
Oh wow
subtle pasture
Yeah, pretty shit...
last cedar
That is a pretty big bobo
My plan is to give it to my parents when it needs replacing. I guess it might just need replacing and using as a decorative coaster
clear ferry
Unifi 🤢
subtle pasture
It took me ages to figure out why the hell everything on wifi was massively broken and getting IPs assigned from a DHCP6 server that was confined to a different VLAN...
last cedar
Good morning raw meat eater
subtle pasture
Bad firewall rules inside the EAP245
last cedar
That sucks :P
However
Still cheaper to buy a new one
Than to have bought an ac pro back then
Which is obscene
Iirc it was 849 sek instead of 1699 sek
subtle pasture
I went ahead and bought a used Aruba IAP-324 instead of investing any more money in TPLink 😛
Was $180
last cedar
Yeah, I would like to go full aruba if I can, assuming I can get the first switch to do what I want
Looking at the 195W PoE 24 port 1930, people complain about the fans a lot though
I have to buy stuff in stages, I am not a racoon of means :P
Another AP is quite a way down the list
subtle pasture
Hmm, that just a Layer 2 switch?
last cedar
Very happy you were around to chat about it
I think it is loosely 2 with some 3 features
subtle pasture
I usually use Cisco SG250 series switches if all I need is Layer 2
subtle pasture
Yeah, the SG250-26P is comparable to the Aruba 1930 on both price and specs
Same power budget, even
subtle pasture
Cisco does weird things with the SFP ports on these switches. They call them "dual personality ports" and they're shared with ethernet port 25 and 26
subtle pasture
If you're planning to go aruba end-to-end, I can't knock that plan. We sell that at work pretty often
You can control your switches and WAPs all from a central console, running on the switch/wap cluster
last cedar
Realistically I don't need 10gb, but I will defo be pulling fiber from building to builsing when we buy, might as well do it right. Got to have 10gb in the firewood storage room for the earwigs and rodents
subtle pasture
This house is all wired with CAT6, ready for 10 gbps, but none of the hardware is cheap enough yet 😛
I'm wishing we'd done some fiber runs when we were pulling all that CAT6 cable...
last cedar
I know I don't want ubiquiti. I have a zyxel switch now and I don't have any complaints with it, I want as many ports as possible that are 10gb and they look to fit the bill. They are also easier on the wallet new than many other brands, in Sweden
dusky plank
isn't 10g cat7?
clear ferry
No
dusky plank
ok alright then
last cedar
6a is 10gb at 100M
clear ferry
🏇
subtle pasture
@dusky plank Nah, also cable certifications are weird... you can technically certify a specific length of CAT5e as 10gbps ready
last cedar
People have had 10gb running on 8 coathangers 😂
dusky plank
ethernet in general maxes out at 100m I believe? correct me again! do it!
subtle pasture
Because CAT5e will run 10gbps just fine, but not over the full 100 meters that CAT6 will
dusky plank
(the specification)
clear ferry
10BaseT has gotten better, but it is still very little implementation and shitty for most since they have working SM and MM cabling in place with OM4 already
last cedar
Everyone loves their teal fiber cables
clear ferry
@dusky plank I've run cat5e over 16 meters through two fuseboxes and got 10Mbit working fine 🤣
subtle pasture
@dusky plank Ethernet does max out at 100m, yeah. At that point you need an active repeater
clear ferry
@last cedar but teal is om3 🙅
dusky plank
I have 2.5g running over coax. call me expert 😎
subtle pasture
MOCA?
dusky plank
yes
last cedar
Unless you have a racoon infestation in your coax cables
subtle pasture
Hmm, that might depend on the MOCA bridge you're using
It should be 1ms or better
last cedar
I remember gaming on dial up, like 400ms ping. Impossible to play
dull plaza
Guys I have a service binded to use for only one ip on as many devices under that IP. Am I able to pay for VPN which will cover all connected devices under it below on ip?
last cedar
@subtle pasture ty for the discussion, I might pick your brain at a later stage!
subtle pasture
Any time, I've been hanging out here a lot lately 👀
y'all are a good bunch... weird, but good. lol
clear ferry
Revive gravity falls
subtle pasture
Right!?
@clear ferry You might check out The Owl House if you liked Gravity Falls
Alex Hirsch (the creator of Gravity Falls, and the voice of Bill Cipher) is involved creatively and as a voice actor
deft pewter
Guys I have a service binded to use for only one ip on as many devices under that IP. Am I able to pay for VPN which will cover all connected devices under it below on ip?
@dull plaza Why do you need a VPN for that? If you can access your IP externally, just set up nginx or something to route incoming requests to the right service/device.
You could easily point several domains at the same IP and have nginx route them. i.e. aaa.lipown.com could resolve to the same IP address as bbb.lipown.com but nginx would make sure aaa goes to service A and bbb goes to service B.
subtle pasture
Yeah, that's just a reverse proxy server
HAProxy, NGinx, Apache, etc. can all perform that function
dull plaza
@deft pewter I have paid service which can run multiple times under one ip. I want to use it with my GF when she is on house of students and I am home. Nobody have good upload for rerouting so paid VPN would be good idea.
subtle pasture
I think there might be a bit of a language barrier here
I'm having trouble parsing exactly what it is you're trying to do
dull plaza
Nope
subtle pasture
Remote access to your home network?
dull plaza
I am on on external IP, my gf on another, my parents on another - I want mask them under one IP that will access the service
So we can use it simultaneusly
deft pewter
Oh. You want to 'fake' the IP so it all looks like it comes from one place?
subtle pasture
Then yeah, you'd need to run a VPN server at one of those location, and tunnel the others through it
Standard branch office VPN configuration
dull plaza
this si what I cant do
deft pewter
But with poor upload bandwidth... 🤷♂️
dull plaza
cause of low upload
subtle pasture
You could use a VPS, that'll get around the bandwidth limitations 😛
It'll have whatever bandwidth the datacenter it's in can provide
dull plaza
What is VPS?
subtle pasture
Virtual Private Server
dull plaza
Oh that is right
subtle pasture
Literally a virtual machine out in the cloud
dull plaza
But doesnt that same provide some VPN providers
subtle pasture
You'd run a VPN server of your own on the VPS
last cedar
Very long cat5 cables /s
subtle pasture
Most VPN service providers don't offer the feature you're after, they're more about protecting privacy
dusky plank
then get a vps in a shady country
subtle pasture
You could try to find a VPN service provider that lets you explicitly set the exit node...
Then set all 3 clients to the same node
But in general, you can't guarantee multiple clients will get the same external IP address with something like PIA, Mulvad, Nord, etc.
Nord actually has some business/enterprise plans that might do what you need, but those'll be expensive
clear ferry
Full L2 VPN with openvpn
I did that between my house and my parents house 12 years ago
Fun times when my father just searched for a printer and started printing in the middle of the night
🤣
subtle pasture
Probably should have had a firewall between those two networks...
clear ferry
Nah, if you don't trust your parents who will you trust 🤣
subtle pasture
My father disowned me, so...
clear ferry
Ooof, that sucks
My father is the reason I love IT and my mother knows MS access 🧐
Which she will never stop mentioning probably
subtle pasture
Yeah, he's the reason I got into IT/computing/tech as well, but he's also a raging bigot 😄
clear ferry
The two probably aren't mutually exclusive then 🙅
subtle pasture
indeed
clear ferry
My daughter can do whatever she wants, as long as she still loves me even if I'm a lazy grumpy bastard
😴
forest edge
then when she reaches of age she will settle in the normal norwegian fashion and hate everyone including her father
light trout
That's an unwritten rule among the people
clear ferry
Not a rule, a requirement for citizenship
Or else you will be banned from the country
light trout
It's official now?
loud sparrow
hey can someone help me?
light trout
these are not the droids you are looking for
loud sparrow
ok then
tame cove
hello everyone
last cloak
@sour hare thanks for the awesome tag reader! I am trying to print it myself. I see that you use marble, can you share where you got the blue marble filament?
deft pewter
You may not even be in the same country as them. Googling for 'marble filament' brings up plenty of results though.
clear ferry
🤏
last cloak
@deft pewter yes, but none colored in blue...
clear ferry
But....
Literally the first hit on Google is blue and white filament
If you search for blue marble filament
deft pewter
I sometimes forget that, as a software engineer, I know how to use Google.
clever mortar
You don't need to be a software engineer for that
I'd say that most folks that have a job that requires solving problems either learn that, or fail hard
dull chasm
but @clever mortar trail and error can make a average man better than a engineer ....i see it all the time
all i deal with is engineers and find out they will only certifie what they know other wise they scratch there heads
i hear does it meet specs or equiv ........damn a 1st term student can say that
clever mortar
Eh, it's about your willingness to explore, learn, and think
Also, there's a difference between what folks can do, and what they're allowed to do 😉
dull chasm
so that is a double edge sword that most use ....i cant learn because i cant approve
clever mortar
Or, from another angle, it doesn't matter what I know, because I'm only allowed to approve X
dull chasm
then when they can they only use astm standards that are proven
instead of using their training to expand .... they sit on proven stamped approved designs
clever mortar
Because, in the field, that's what you're able to do 😉
Now, if you're working elsewhere... that's different
dull chasm
well the engineers i work with are high level and still only do copy paste from standards
clever mortar
dull chasm
@clever mortar no they can do more ...they can actually do thier job title of engineer and engineer something
deft pewter
Except there are engineers out there doing pioneering work. They'll be at NASA/Tesla/etc.
The engineers you meet day to day... they gotta follow rules and regs.
clear ferry
@clever mortar wife has a bestie, who is so shit at Google that she calls to ask "where can I buy xyz" when googling "xyz" will show two stores in her area, literally nothing added to the search than "xyz" for example a specific model and brand of a mascara
She is also a hardcore apple user and Minecraft gamer, there might be correlations possible, oh and she drives a French car 🤢
deft pewter
Is there anything worse than European cars?
hollow glacier
Chicken, corn, black bean, tomatoes, a few serranos
clear ferry
@deft pewter I specifically ask for non french cars when I do rentals 🤣
deft pewter
FIAT, huh? Fix It Again Tomorrow?
clear ferry
Every time I go to Britain the lady at the desk says "everyone says that"
deft pewter
They give you a specific car when you rent here? I've only ever rented in the States... you just walk into a parking lot and pick whatever takes your fancy.
clear ferry
We have a saying in Norwegian, "never buy cars that start with f, fiat, ford and French cars"
🤣
dusky plank
FIat M U L T I P L A ftw
clear ferry
Yes you are assigned a specific car when you rent a car, that is pretty normal in the... 9 countries I've rented in atleast
deft pewter
Ah. I always thought that was the norm... but each time we've rented in the States, we rented a certain class of car. Found the row of cars that matches, pick one, drive off.
Maybe it's only cos we did it at a large airport. No idea if it would be the same at a smaller rental place.
clear ferry
Orly, I've rented only once in the us, but it was like any other country, I was assigned a car a week before, got an upgrade when I got to the desk, then drove off
🤣
This was at Newark
young agate
Yes you are assigned a specific car when you rent a car, that is pretty normal in the... 9 countries I've rented in atleast
@clear ferry Same here in Germany.
deft pewter
The only time I've rented in the UK was when I needed a van, so it was me being specific about which vehicle I wanted. I'd sized up the interior for the bits I needed to move.
young agate
What are your fav car brands?
low harness
How does that even work? Are they keys left in the car?
static schooner
yep
deft pewter
Yeah, keys in the car. Drive through a manned barrier where they scan the barcode in the front windscreen, drive away.
This was an airport parking lot, so plenty of security... and no way to drive out until they scan your details.
Basically if you've got a receipt for a 'premium sedan', you just pick something from the row marked 'premium sedans'. They don't care which one you drive away.
clear ferry
Here in Norway a lot of smaller rental companies let you unlock the car with NFC @low harness
And keys are in the glove compartment
deft pewter
The US hasn't discovered NFC yet. Give them another 20 years.
clear ferry
@young agate anything German will do, or if I go to the UK I prefer smaller cars because I drive into the cities
clever mortar
I've driven a wide range of things, as long as it's not for the US market I don't care that much...
clear ferry
Gonna need a bigger car next time though to fit a proper child seat in though, none of that forward facing bullshit most countries deal with
clever mortar
Of course, if I can get a manual in the US, I'm happy 😄
(suspension still tends to be a bit soggy, but beggars can't be choosers)
clear ferry
Manual, I gave that up 13 years ago, I can drive it fine, but I prefer automatic
deft pewter
Automatics aren't too bad though. Especially driving around somewhere as flat and dry as Florida.
clever mortar
Oh, I've driven both - modern automatics aren't bad, and they're great in stop-start traffic
clever mortar
But, if I'm having fun on twisty roads, make it a manual any day 😄
deft pewter
I'd hate an automatic for stop-start traffic. I like to abuse first gear when I want to pull away in a hurry 😄
clear ferry
Kickdown baby
young agate
Even tho most cars in Germany are manual (including mine) - a good double clutch automatic car is fantastic. I love it. My next car will definetly be electric or at least automatic
clear ferry
I miss my A8, but the Volvo will make due 🤣
Maybe I can buy a new one when the wife forgets what a repair nightmare the A8 was
low harness
Brb. Moving the server cabinet over to the new, dedicated outlet.
clever mortar
Yeah, of all the cars I've driven, Audi, Mercedes, and Volvo have been the ones I'd be most likely to buy if I could
low harness
- famous last words
clever mortar
Modern Vauxhall's are meh
low harness
That's "Opel" to most of the world, right?
clear ferry
Yes
clever mortar
The "far East" brands are surprisingly good - I've driven quite a few, and while the build quality may not be top notch, the experience is all round good
clear ferry
Atleast the Australian alternative Holden had some good models
Astra, would almost fit my fat ass if I use lube 🤣
clever mortar
Vauxhall was good, about 30 years ago, back when Ford was Found On Road, Dead
young agate
Vauxhall/Opel was good, before it was sold
clear ferry
I had a Polo a few years back in the UK, that was decent for a drive around the countryside, good for small roads, but shitty engine
clever mortar
Probably still more fun to drive than a Ford Ka 😛
clear ferry
I've had so many rentals the last few years I usually get upgraded a full class whenever I travel, but 2020 has been a bad year for my Avis preferred 🤣
young agate
It was depending on the model/country back then. The cars manifactured in Germany were much less prone to rust then the ones in asia for example
clever mortar
Best free upgrade I had was when I had a "small hatch" booked, and got a Mercedes SLK
clear ferry
Oooof
clever mortar
Yeah, that was a fun day
young agate
That's quite an upgrade
clear ferry
I had a Peugeot 208 and got upgraded to a Tesla , not sure which was the shittiest car
The Tesla was atleast fun
clever mortar
Aye, a fortunate accident in timings when they only had a choice of the Merc, or a people carrier, to upgrade me to 😄
clear ferry
Still regret not getting a rental for two weeks in Georgia, because murica isn't pedestrian friendly
But Lyft worked fine
green shell
Hi I am about to start using HASS. Is there another option than the Pi ( i dont have an always on pc/laptop )
deft pewter
There are many options. They're described in the support channels.
green shell
ty, ill take a look at it!
deft pewter
Cloud 
clever mortar
But you do need something that's always on, and a Pi is usually the cheapest option
green shell
Guess I need to get a pi then
clear ferry
Don't skimp on the SD card if you must 🤢
dusky plank
oidoid n2+ if you need a little more speed
low harness
I’m back!
deft pewter
Can anyone recommend a good rye whiskey that won't break the bank?
orchid rose
Wild Turkey is okay for a cheap one
deft pewter
Sweet. I can get that here.
clear ferry
Rye whiskey you say, only one I've ever had was Jim beam, and it was shite
deft pewter
Aha. Can also get Jim Bean but will avoid it then 😄
clear ferry
deft pewter
Lagavulin, huh? Couldn't afford the good stuff?
clear ferry
deft pewter
What's the Japanese malt? I can't make out the distillery.
clear ferry
I have some Laphroaig in there too
orchid rose
No Ardbeg no party
deft pewter
I get the impression you enjoy whiskey.
clever mortar
If you don't have at least a couple of dozen different bottles you're not serious
clear ferry
deft pewter
Oh, boy. That Taketsuru ain't cheap.
green shell
Well father in law has a left over raspi for me, all things work out as supposed 2 xD
orchid rose
Talisker DE is great too
deft pewter
I'm going to offend you all and admit that the rye is just going into cocktails 🤣
clever mortar
If you want something different, try Monkey Shoulder - it's a blend, but one I'll happily drink
deft pewter
Not sure I've had Chartreuse. I do like similar liquors though.
One of my favourites is Benedictine.
clear ferry
Should be a bottle of yamazaki in here too....
orchid rose
Rye is great for cocktails. The wild turkey is 50.5% which really helps too
deft pewter
I want to find a bottle of Licor 43 too but I can never find a store with it in the UK.
Oh... Glayva is awesome too. Whiskey-based liqueur.
dusky plank
yeeeah wiskey is good and all - but have you ever had real good potato salad? anyone?
dusky plank
40c beer, good for the vitamins
clever mortar
The French even do their own, and it's not bad at all
clear ferry
But a lot of the Japanese stuff is great
clever mortar
Interestingly, a lot of the Japanese stuff turns out to be from Scotland 😂
low harness
I heard much good about Mackmyra, but I actually never tasted it.
clever mortar
Was having a good chat with somebody in the business and found that out
clear ferry
They copied a lot of the Scottish recipes
dusky plank
and added rice
clever mortar
Not just that, but a lot of it is actually literally from Scotland, as in made here and labelled Japanese...
Or shipped over in bulk and bottled
low harness
...except the unaged one, which I heard was terrible...
hollow glacier
yeeeah wiskey is good and all - but have you ever had real good potato salad? anyone?
@dusky plank are we talking mustard potato salad?
clear ferry
@dusky plank lets meet up and drink some warm Pisang ambon
hollow glacier
No yellow mustard Texas style? 😤
dusky plank
@dusky plank lets meet up and drink some warm Pisang ambon
@clear ferry come to austria, get a fiat and I'm in!
dusky plank
It's 2 minutes from the airport to me
clear ferry
I should stop by @hearty depot and @tawny pebble too then
hollow glacier
Can’t you just get drunk and watch top gear?
orchid rose
Only if it's with clarkson and co
hollow glacier
Yeah..
young agate
@dusky plank Austria? Take your cars and come here and get a nice cool beer!
hollow glacier
Their new show has gotten better
hollow glacier
The grand tour
clear ferry
Clarkson is a proper cunt, just like me
dusky plank
where is here? @young agate
i want coordinates!
hollow glacier
I love his quote on why he’s not sexist “I watch lesbian pr0n”
clear ferry
Let's go to swartzwald and eat some ham @dusky plank
young agate
@dusky plank 52.03333° N , 8.53333° E
dusky plank
i want to have iberian ham 🐷 schwarzwälder is good but, meh
hearty depot
@clear ferry
clear ferry
Iberico ham > all other ham
young agate
Serrano is the way to go
hearty depot
Ok. the topic is alcohol apperantly
clear ferry
HI CAPS LOCK
dusky plank
@young agate hmmm thats a 6 hour ride for me 😄
hearty depot
da fuck yea
hearty depot
I actually never needed that lock.. like ever
clear ferry
Gin can be good, but I've been too shit drink on gin that I probably shy away
young agate
@dusky plank well.. 😄
orchid rose
Tanqueray omnom
young agate
We have a wonderful local gin over here
static schooner
gin tastes like gnawing on a pine tree
clear ferry
That's why you mix it
young agate
I think I'm going to make a long drink 🤔
young agate
Fanta? Tonic water is the way to go
dusky plank
I can't drink high percentage stuff 😔
deft pewter
Gin and fanta? wtf?
clear ferry
@dusky plank I started drinking 50+ at age 18 and beer at age 32 🤣
deft pewter
I can't stand gin neat, nor with tonic. I'll only have it in martinis or negronis.
orchid rose
Martinis man, classy af while getting you drunk
deft pewter
I even bought some olives. Now I just need those fancy ass metal cocktail sticks so I can go full-on pretentious.
dusky plank
well my body is a wreck since a accident at 17 so nothing else than beer for me... spent 3 weeks in intensive care
clear ferry
I drink a lot of mojitos if I do cocktails
young agate
I started at age 14 with beer
With 16 the hard stuff comes into play
At least in Germany
for most of the kids
clever mortar
Scrumpy was my real introduction
dusky plank
yeah its funny.. alcohol from 16 and porn at 18, in america its the opposite
dusky plank
I might be... in a few years
deft pewter
Mojitos are nice during that one summer day every year
One summer day? I had them most days of my trip when I was in Costa Rica. Never paid more than $1 either 😄
hearty depot
I'm a so called Jungsommelier
But not Yung anymore
deft pewter
Happy hour all day long.
hearty depot
Nah it isnt bad, but I ll burn you on a scheiterhaufen 😛
clear ferry
yeah its funny.. alcohol from 16 and porn at 18, in america its the opposite
@dusky plank
You forgot the guns 🧛♂️
deft pewter
Guns from 12?
young agate
Prost!
dusky plank
you anonymous alcoholics should try Krautinger - it's the most disgusting thing you ever tried and for sure will cure your sickness. plus: it's made in Tirol
deft pewter
Beet schnappes? 🤢
dusky plank
It's Schnaps, yes
young agate
pure vodka is the worst.
young agate
Sad but true
orchid rose
What's that?
hearty depot
I have to translate this for the non german speakers
(actually I hope someone else does. Luca is typing a lot, so I might be good)
young agate
I'm fascinated by the little cultural differences. In America it's not allowed to say "dick" on tv. In Germany it's forbidden to go to the supermarket with a fully automatic gun
You are 😄
deft pewter
Google Translate ftw.
subtle pasture
Drove by the local trailer park a while back and spotted this, lol
"Fuck all y'all, God save the queen"
hearty depot
you all keep me from my postgres ansible role 😿
Uh a ikea deathstar lamp
young agate
Not my style but its quite nice. The table. Not your toes.
deft pewter
You'd think he'd at least paint his nails before sending us foot pics.
dusky plank
that table is amazeballs
and did you shrink atx? those trousers look way too long
clear ferry
Atleast I cut my toenails today @deft pewter
deft pewter
First time this year?
clear ferry
@dusky plank I'm just your standard Norwegian 220cm tall
@deft pewter according to the wife yes, according to me no
dusky plank
what's your special ability? I can lick my elbow!
clear ferry
I can fix anything
clever mortar
Is that after you break it though?
young agate
I can break anything
subtle pasture
220cm? 🤨
young agate
and fix some things
subtle pasture
That's over 7 feet tall
hearty depot
I'm almost always in a good mood
orchid rose
Wide leapo
subtle pasture
Hah!
young agate
My best friends are servers. Linux servers. Not windows. I'm a server-os racist.
tidal bronze
Sucking toes on a Sunday. Yep, progress!
subtle pasture
@young agate challenge yourself to live Linux-free. Switch everything to BSD and VxWorks
hearty depot
here is still the question of the distribution
dusky plank
Gentoo intensifies /s
young agate
Arch for Desktop, CoreOS for containerized applications, Ubuntu server for non-docker
Linux from Stratch if you wanna have some fun
dusky plank
Ubuntu 🤢
subtle pasture
That's one of the reasons I like BSD... It's monolithic, no need for a billion distros
clever mortar
Just ... half a dozen or two
young agate
@dusky plank my home assistant lives in a container on ubuntu server 🤨
subtle pasture
@clever mortar Not really... Pre-installing packages on FreeBSD and releasing it under a different name isn't the same thing as building your own Linux distro
dull chasm
@clever mortar @clear ferry but yall dont have proper engines like my F150
clever mortar
Why would I want some horribly inefficient thing though...
dull chasm
400bhp thats why
clever mortar
Pffft
orchid rose
Makes big noise
dull chasm
wimps left on side of road
subtle pasture
How much horsepower per cubic inch?
tidal bronze
Ouch
young agate
Especially if you need torque
dull chasm
@subtle pasture 302 ci
dusky plank
https://youtu.be/ItfdQ-HDAvg?t=53
sleepers ❤️
clever mortar
Yup, and the choices for electric are improving significantly all the time
dull chasm
yall would not make proper americans .....
young agate
That's why I'm a german.
young agate
Electric motorcycles are going to be great
dull chasm
@young agate been there conqured and left 🤣
subtle pasture
My engine: 1.7 hp/ci
That beast: 1.3 hp/ci
Yeah, that F150 isn't very efficient...
dull chasm
but will rock your world
trail crag
I actually think it's going to be weird when electric is more common.
dull chasm
i hope i am dead
trail crag
Right now, it's fun to take off in front of everyone at the light
but when everyone is doing it...
clever mortar
Now 300 mile and above ranges are possible with electric, the reasons I considered it a non-starter are gone
dusky plank
the roadster will be interesting
subtle pasture
@trail crag I already enjoy doing that in a gas powered car. Only having a curb weight of 2600 lbs is fun
trail crag
yeah but you don't do it like a ninja 🥷
trail crag
more like a screaming viking
tidal bronze
@dull chasm done any off reading yet ?
subtle pasture
I absolutely wouldn't mind an electric version of this car, but I don't think it'd feel the same with all the battery weight
dusky plank
right in the feels
dull chasm
@subtle pasture i dont think a hot date would quite the same in a electric car vs a cammed out v8 loping at redlight .....i think the girl would be much more excited in the gas engine
a mean vibrations and all ....
subtle pasture
Fuck. The man has a point...
deft pewter
Someone's going to have to counter that by inventing portable tools capable of creating localised vibrations.
subtle pasture
Running leather seats, I hope? 😂
dull chasm
well i have had the girl for 20 years but yes
she refuses to drive when raining .....last time she spun around at redlight
dusky plank
Someone's going to have to counter that by inventing portable tools capable of creating localised vibrations.
@deft pewter hmmm lets call it better-woman-imporession-device
dull chasm
cant fake the real thing
green verge
The real thing being the all natural man meat I'm guessing
subtle pasture
We're talking about engine rumble...
green verge
Yes I'm aware... But who actually thinks girls are whimsically whisked off their feet by a loud crappy car
Satire my friend
deft pewter
Some guys wouldn't think it if it didn't work on some girls.
subtle pasture
Slightly funny: the stereo in my car is used in a number of different Toyota vehicles, including the Prius. If you get into its service menue, you can enable some of the Prius-centric features... Like playing fake engine sounds over the stereo when revving
deft pewter
We're not all the same.
dull chasm
1st we are not talking crappy .....my truck is very very nice and engine alone is 8k
subtle pasture
That's actually a thing the stereo does in a Prius, lol
green verge
I get some might enjoy it. Sexually enjoy it? Far less. The way it's spoken about, it's generalizing a rare occurrence
I dunno man, helped a friend tune his Supra to like 20lbs of boost. Every girl has only ever been afraid
dull chasm
well your not in the right part of the world my friend
subtle pasture
I'm sorry your vibrator only gets 12 miles to the gallon...
clear ferry
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
subtle pasture
Oof
dull chasm
stock is 400bhp ....current is 520 bhp lol
dusky plank
can we just talk about french and italian cars? this is too much HP for me and my fiat multipla
clever mortar
I'd have to go and get the handbook to work out what the HP of my car is... it's never mattered anyway 😉
green verge
520 HP on an F150 is pretty Jukes tho
dusky plank
it matters in the alps - though you'll crap out with >200 so 🤷♂️
clever mortar
Car gets from A to B while carrying everything it needs to, fast enough when it needs to be fast, and without using a lot of fuel 😛
dull chasm
how it gets there is important ....
clever mortar
In one piece, in style
green verge
Personally, if I want to go fast for fun, I'd pull out the motorcycle
Otherwise it's all electric all day baby
clear ferry
Even my German sled gave me 34mpg
clever mortar
If I want to go fast for fun, I'll find twisty roads. Top speed is irrelevant, it's the ability to read the conditions, and the road, and accelerate/decelerate appropriately that's fun
dusky plank
I have this bad boy waiting in my mum's garage
https://d39a3h63xew422.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/29205009/Fiat500-19-649x320.jpg
18HP. yeah go figure!
clever mortar
Any idiot can do 100 MPH+ in a straight line, that's no fun
dusky plank
gets you all the ladies this fiat
subtle pasture
@clever mortar that's honestly why I like my GT86 so much
It's zippy and handles like a go-kart
"whee! corners! :D"
clever mortar
For me, that's where the fun is - and electric can do that as well as, if not better than, fossil fuel
Of course, most of my driving is distance on the motorway, where a nice smooth ride matters more 🤷
dusky plank
Come to northern Norway and let me show you how to drive 60kph sideways on ice
@clear ferry deal!
green verge
My gym teacher in Highschool slayed mad poon and drove a Corolla. Thought big trucks = small cock
Different strokes
subtle pasture
Short strokes, sounds like..
I honestly can't help myself from thinking that every time I see an overly-lifted pickup truck, where the driver is barreling around like an asshole
"Such a shame about his dick..."
green verge
Making up for something, that's just a fact of nature
fiery sorrel
i like big car as in high car. the higer i sit the more confortable it feel to me. The best road trip i had ever done was in a actual truck XD
That aside, the shorter the beter ... you still have to park that thing