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subtle pasture
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Before that, it worked exactly like I said, with no connection between the wheels and the gas generator

dull chasm
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yall can have yalls scooter's ... i keep my engine

subtle pasture
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2016 and newer, the gas engine can power the wheels directly

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Darn, I really liked that about the older Volt :/

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@dull chasm I don't have a horse in this race, my car still runs on gas :P

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Well... Gas or ethanol

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It's wild how quick the tank drains on ethanol, though. The energy density of alcohol isn't nearly as good as gasoline

dull chasm
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mine runs on gas too ...and wont change .... i dont see a pruis towing a john deere tractor in the near future

subtle pasture
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They actually have a ton of torque... Being that they're electric

dull chasm
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torque on a electric motor does not equal that of gas motor .....it does not have a good standing resisatance to weight

subtle pasture
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Depends on how you're measuring... Electric motors have 100% torque at 0 RPM

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Gas engines don't... You have to spool them up to a couple thousand RPM before the torque gets decent

last dirge
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"torque on an electric motor does not equal that of gas motor"

clever mortar
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It's also "a little" harder to stall an electric motor 😉

last dirge
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laughs in locomotive

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"As mentioned above, the AC6000CW is a super powerful locomotive, using 16 cylinders, it has an output of 6000 horsepower and a tractive force of 188,000 lbf at starting."

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just a bit of torque

clever mortar
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Notes that John Deere do electric tractors...

dull chasm
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powered by a diesel @last dirge

last dirge
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no, it's not

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3 phase AC electric motors

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2-stroke diesel generator

dull chasm
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yes by diesel for power

last dirge
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it's a gigantic generator, but it's still only a generator

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it's been a LONG time since freight locomotives were combustion driven

clever mortar
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Even in the UK a lot of the trains are all electric

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(some lines don't allow that, but... that's continuing to change)

dull chasm
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most if not all locomitives are electric .....but each wheel has a motor close to the size of your pirus

subtle pasture
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If you're going to call that "diesel powered" then any Tesla that charges from electricity generated by a coal plant is "coal powered" 🤣

dull chasm
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yep

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kinda defeats the fossil fuel theroy

last dirge
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if the Southern Company gets off their ass, mine will be nuclear powered in the next few years

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no it doesn't

dull chasm
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yes energy has to come from somewhere ....your engine or the plant ...

clever mortar
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Solar, wind, wave... renewables are all around 😉

last dirge
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it takes more electric energy to refine and transport gasoline than it does to propel a car

dull chasm
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so burn the fossil fuel to produce the energy for the car ...seems flakey to me

last dirge
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still less pollutive

clever mortar
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That's why folks invest in other sources

last dirge
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electric generation is orders of magnitude less pollutive than a combustion engine used for propulsion

dull chasm
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if it was solar or wind then charges car ...i see the benifit ....but we are no where close to that point

last dirge
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plus you can generate electricity with wind, solar, hydro, nuclear

subtle pasture
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@dull chasm strictly speaking, oil/coal is old dead carbon based life, wich ultimately derived all of its energy from sunlight... But I'm not about to call my gas car "nuclear fusion powered" 🤣

last dirge
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MrFusion (TM)

subtle pasture
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Technically correct, but nobody defines it that way

dull chasm
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i dont need a lesson on the physics of energy ...spent 8 years in college for that

subtle pasture
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It was an example to point out the absurdity of calling an electric vehicle "diesel powered", not a physics lesson...

dull chasm
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in the example of a locomotive ....it is diesel powered .....

subtle pasture
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And there's nothing flaky about burning fossil fuel to generate electricity, especially if the total system can extract energy from the fuel more efficiently than connecting a combustion engine directly to the wheels

dull chasm
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diesel engine provides power for electric motors

subtle pasture
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That's an electric locomotive... There's no mechanical connection between the generators and the wheels

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There isn't even a drivetrain

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The fuel tank and generator basically amount to a high density battery, and could be replaced by one

clear ferry
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Makes sense with electric vehicles in countries that produce renewable energy sources though

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That said, the Tesla is a shite car

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🤏

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But it makes other manufacturers get on their toes

fallen furnace
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Does Torque app actually collect hybrid/elec vehicle statistics as well?

edgy lark
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I don't know anything about 'proper cars', but I sure like my Tesla

clear ferry
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Shite ride quality and comfort imo

inner vault
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We've got hydro electricity here, so the damage is already done. Planning for our next car to be electric, and eventually replace our oil furnace.

clear ferry
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Oil furnaces, long time since I heard about those, government started paying people to get rid of them 25+ years ago

inner vault
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government electric car incentives don't work for Teslas though since they're considered luxury cars

clear ferry
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Here all EVs are without VAT, which means $100k off the top tesla

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So 80k for the Tesla, and 180k for a similar audi or bmw

fallen furnace
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@subtle pasture Does Torque app actually collect hybrid/elec vehicle statistics as well?

inner vault
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@clear ferry I've actually currently got a split electric/oil system. Oil only comes on when it's colder than -12°c otherwise it's electric. Although due to not using electricity at "peak usage temperatures" I get a fairly substantial discount on normal electricity, but higher rates when it's below -12°c

clear ferry
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Interesting, I have never seen a oil based system in operation

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Electricity is expensive today $0.016 per kwh

inner vault
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standard here is like ~$0.07/kwh, I pay $0.04/kwh unless it's below -12 then it's like $0.24/kwh which is fine when the furnace isn't running and it's just a bunch of led lights

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I might have missed a 0 haha

clear ferry
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It's been $0.004 per kwh for a while now

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But upped today it seems

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I'm currently pulling 9.5kw it seems 😬

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Probably the heater in my greenhouse

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Today's average is 5200kw

inner vault
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Standard is 6.08 ¢/kWh for the first 1,200 kWh per month, then 9.38 ¢/kWh for everything after that.
I pay 4.37 ¢/kWh then 25.55 ¢/kWh during cold spells, no matter what the usage.

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which might actually make sense to keep the oil furnace if I get an electric car

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just so that it's cheaper to "fill" unless it's super cold

clear ferry
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It's only 6pm and I've used 92kwh so far today 🤕

subtle pasture
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We got solar installed, so our net usage is less than zero during the day, which is nice

inner vault
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I'd like top get better insight into my actual usage

clear ferry
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I could get solar on my roof for $15k but meh

inner vault
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my meter uses zigbee, but I'm pretty sure it's super locked down

clever mortar
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Yeah, Zigbee (1.2) here too by the looks of things, but they seem to be going to Zigbee Pro/3 this year - based off of the frequencies

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Given that my 2.4 GHz band is already full from WiFi and my own multiple Zigbee meshes... 😄

inner vault
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Yesterday I used 70kwh

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it's colder today, we'll see

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the furnace has only started coming on this week

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but my weekend plan is also to re-insulate the attic 🙂

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@rotund sphinx I use a Rasberry Pi to run homeassistant, with a combo zigbee/zwave stick, and it controls everything I need.

midnight adder
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@inner vault I assume you do not have a heat pump?

inner vault
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@midnight adder I do not, it's a hot water boiler with cast iron radiators.

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@rotund sphinx depends what you want to control. You can also use homeassistant to control other zigbee hubs via their interface (like Hue/Ikea Traadfri) but then it's going out over the internet rather than locally controlled.

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homeassistant is mostly it - everyone who makes it very easy just wants your data 😉

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also wait until you get sick of needing to use your phone for everything and then start looking into smart switches

clever mortar
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Yup, you can make your house smart, and still have it behave the way folks expect 😉

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Probably

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I think there's a forum post on it

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Well, the good news is that if you can read, think, and learn, you don't need programming 😉

inner vault
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I was going to just say reading - I forgot about thinking and learning haha

clever mortar
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I've done one piece of programming with HA since I started, some 4 years ago

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That was a one line change... fixing a version number in the codebase 😄

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YAML's not programming, don't fall down that rabbit hole 😉

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YAML just a way of telling HA what to do

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Sensors are very useful since then you can automate

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You can just go for a "smart home", but why only do a partial job when you can make an automated one 😉

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Room is dark and occupied, lights turn on

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Come home after dark, lights turn on to welcome you

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Leave home after dark, and the lights turn off

inner vault
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no one's home, turn off the lights

static schooner
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~alert 🙂

inner vault
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worked great until I realized that my presence detection was just my wife and my phone bing connected to wifi - When we went to the hospital to deliver her baby, my mother in law was staying over to watch the toddler, 10 minutes after we left, all of the lights went out on her.

velvet horizonBOT
bitter pawn
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this is why im looking into Z-wave stuff

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for my light switches

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while RGB lights are cool, i dont like the light bulbs themselves dropping off the wifi

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i also dont like letting Lo Wang from china know every time i turn off my living room lights.

shy comet
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@bitter pawn use zigbee for RGB lights...more stable i find

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also zwave light switches are the perfect way to go IMO

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not ideal to tell someone dont touch the light switch lol

bitter pawn
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i got a bunch of those merkury walmart branded ones and while nice

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the wifi module sucks donkey bawls

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they burn out/ stop connecting/whatever

shy comet
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some things just benefit more with their own mesh

bitter pawn
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im debating if i want to have a powerline network.

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while i finally have a house i can run cat6e cables,

inner vault
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I went with lutron casetta for my switches, but got the pro hub, so that all of the communication is local over telnet - it's also over the internet, but homeassistant controls it via local network.

bitter pawn
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it would be convenient while troubleshooting anything to be like....powerline adapter to get internet

inner vault
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but it's also like $65 per light switch.

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still better than having smart bulbs and yelling at people not to touch the switches

bitter pawn
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yeah the smart bulb thing was a good idea, poorly executed

inner vault
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the lamps that I have smart bulbs in are all wired into homeassistant and then also controlled via walmounted lutron pico remote switches, so they seem just like ordinary ligths to guests

bitter pawn
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true true

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i think most people believe that powerline tech is going away

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and why invest R&D into a tech that no one will use?

inner vault
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powerline networks also only work on certain types of wiring, if you're in an old house it probably wont work

bitter pawn
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the more i think about it though

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the more powerline makes sense for smart home devices

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not alot of traffic,

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that would also work directly with smart light switches

inner vault
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and it doesn't just turn your power lines into a network, they're just cables between powerline "modems" more or less. So any lamp you would think you can controll with powerline, would need a full powerline adapter built into it anyways. I'm not sure it's a great idea...

bitter pawn
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well Z-wave, Zigbee, and wifi alternatives also need ways to communicate to their wireless networks.

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so that point is moot

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they come in sets, but you can mix them

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thats the only thought

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but as with everything tech, it can be made smaller

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i think it is brilliant for a lamp.

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might be more difficult with a light switch as real estate is limited

brisk glen
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I think I might want a Jetson Xavier NX for HA :/

rapid sierra
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After the last upgrade, it seems I have to reload my templates after I restarted the system. Is there any special reason for this?

velvet horizonBOT
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last dirge
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WAT

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Costco's got some really weird shit sometimes

deft pewter
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I'm not surprised they sell it. I'm more concerned about how you pronounce it. Is the 'kegel' KAY-gel, or is it supposed to be like a kegglebell (a la kettlebell)?

low harness
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Huh. I've seen that before and just assumed it was a joke.

last dirge
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gotta get that Kung Fu grip

green inlet
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You have never heard of kegel exercises @deft pewter

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Are you married?

deft pewter
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I've heard of them. And I get that the name of the product is probably a play on words... it just sounds wrong when you say it right.

clear ferry
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🍆

deft pewter
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🤏

errant bough
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I need to stop using that proxmox HA install script. My install has suddenly broken at least 5 times.

clever mortar
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Well, it did do some odd things by all accounts

clear ferry
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Proxmox, lxc, random scripts 🤢

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Sounds great

errant bough
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I fear the day I need to reinstall proxmox to actually organize my awful setup

late gate
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How is it possible people running 20gb ram on celeron nas cpu that official support max 8gb ram (the cpu) and the ram passes memtest. Any experience if it’s a real limit or just recommend max since people run with much more?

dusky plank
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is it actually usable memory?

clear ferry
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A CPU can only address a certain amount of memory

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If it doesn't have the registers for it it can't address it

late gate
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The tests say it’s useable but I’m sceptical

clear ferry
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So the Bible is the CPU specs, like Intel ARK

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Anything else than those numbers will be.... Interesting

late gate
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When people put 20gb on a 4105 synology it registers and can run VM using all the ram and I can’t see it’s being possible

dusky plank
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well if you like the idea of rebooting your Nas every few days, this might be sufficient

late gate
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I have the same feeling it can result in an unstable system

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But still strange it works in the first place

dusky plank
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considering how overclockers treat their cpu's... not much 😄

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did you know that a lot of flash storage you buy is actually twice the size you buy/get? They just cut the other half either for memory correction space or bc it already has bad "sectors". I believe this is kind of like that...

supple moss
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update on hyperbian/hyperion.ng. finally got it working. the trick for me was disabling the pi's bluetooth completely, and using the right /dev/ttyACM0 device (USB light controller).

light trout
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Same goes for CPUs as well @dusky plank, they just disable a few cores and change the sku

late gate
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At least not buying synology ram 150usd for 4gb rebranded crucial ram

subtle pasture
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Spare area on modern SSDs is up to around 30% of total drive capacity. I haven't seen any drives equipped with double the rated capacity

late gate
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So the consensus is just because it is possible doesn’t mean do it

static schooner
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My Synology 1515+ was perfectly happy with Crucial RAM, but my 1819+ complains about everything third-party as far as I can tell

dusky plank
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well those cheap chinese 12tb usb sticks certainly only advertise 50%

static schooner
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works fine, just complains at boot

subtle pasture
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Usually the problem with cheap USB drives is they report MORE than their physical capacity...

late gate
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Yeah they detect 3rd party now

subtle pasture
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And then fail in weird ways when you actually try to use all that space

light trout
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Bought a 1TB usb one time, windows thought it was 1TB, but it was really just 256MB

subtle pasture
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Like that ^

dusky plank
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yeah thats why i said 12tb

late gate
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I just can’t see myself paying 150 bucks for 4gb

static schooner
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I get the base-10 nonsense, but that's crazy 🙂

tidal bronze
dusky plank
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dixi?

tidal bronze
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Been awhile....live movie sets

clear ferry
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@late gate freenas or go home

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128g ram should be good for most

late gate
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I have no need

tidal bronze
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🤣

clear ferry
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Needs 🤢

late gate
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Wife decision

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Synology or no nas

clear ferry
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This is what we have garages for

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🤏

supple moss
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Woo! Just got my first PiZero today (wlan + bt/ble)

late gate
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I’m getting slowly banned from all areas lol

clear ferry
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Pizero is great for controlling LEDs

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And that's about it

supple moss
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using it as a bluetooth repeater

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well, "relay"

clear ferry
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You could have just used a ESP

supple moss
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esp is the same?

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(everyone seems to love ESP here)

dusky plank
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esp runs docker? whats next? esxi?

clear ferry
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Esp32 with esphome could do bt to WiFi

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For $2

supple moss
dusky plank
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would be awesome if esxi could do proper passthrough and see windows running on it

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I'd play Anno 1602 or AOE II all day

tidal bronze
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EXSI is good with many things but not with pass-through 😆

light trout
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I have never had issues with that

tidal bronze
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Was trying for days to get a USB audio capture device to work with windows for Ledfx, no go. Same goes for coral

clear ferry
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Passthrough isn't much sought after in enterprise, so no need to tweak it

dusky plank
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same with any usb HID devices, the first keyboard/mouse always reserved for the hypervisor. you need a second pair, no matter how many usb controllers you have at hand

tidal bronze
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As with anything nothing is good at everything 😆

dusky plank
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kvm is perfect 🎉
NOT

light trout
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Wtf are you guys doing with your severs? You know you manage them remotely right?

clear ferry
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They are trying to use them for stuff they shouldn't

tidal bronze
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Says the professor

tidal bronze
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Ok then. 🤣

dusky plank
dusky plank
subtle pasture
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@forest edge One more bodily function away from implosion

forest edge
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@subtle pasture oh and which would that be?

subtle pasture
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Well, he's not vomiting yet...

forest edge
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he sneezed, think thats worse than vomit lol

dusky plank
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enough discord for today 🚶

forest edge
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the new echo and dot are balls, so when you get mad at them they become useful for punting

green inlet
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Sneeze !< vomit

dusky plank
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never seen !< but this reminds me of <> - which is != in .net

forest edge
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in terms of velocity of exhale a sneeze most certainly does beat vomit

tidal bronze
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@green inlet what's on the drink menu ?

low harness
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I'm pouring my fourth Famous Grouse. Is now a good time to see what all the fuzz about pyenv is all about?

tidal bronze
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Nice. Been to that distillery, awesome place and good drinks.

low harness
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Meh. What´s the worst that could happen if you mess with your system python mappings? Leroy Jenkins!

tidal bronze
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@forest edge is that you ?

forest edge
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@tidal bronze thought it was you

tidal bronze
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Not there quite yet.

forest edge
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maybe it's @dull chasm

tidal bronze
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Someone said python might get there in a quick minute

dusky plank
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according to the temperature of the recording its way north

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you know where this leads

low harness
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Some day when this is all over, I'll go to the Independent European Union State of Scotland and visit a distillery too.

tidal bronze
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Tried this last night was good.

low harness
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And Wales. I've always wanted to see Llanfairpwlgwngchogerychgwnrdrosboslantisiliogogogch.

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Wow.... I was way closer than I thought I'd be: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

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Actually, screw the Grouse. I got a bottle of mead in the fridge.

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Mmmmm honey-y

dusky plank
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oh yeah and i was born in "Rum"

low harness
forest edge
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gps tracking huh

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how they manage that lol

late gate
forest edge
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oh wow you got a picture of @clear ferry on his way to work

tidal bronze
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@dull chasm how are you holding up there ? Hope you are safe

forest edge
dull chasm
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@tidal bronze thanks for asking ...so far good ...power has not even blinked

forest edge
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that moment you hit a dirt clog with the mower and it fouls the plug

subtle pasture
low harness
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Heh "Glasgow"

marble crypt
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hey guys, what type of smart light switches do you recommend?

forest edge
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the kind that aren't dumb. search around #hardware-archived #diy-archived and the forums. plenty of options, all boils down to what you want and what you have to work with wiring wise etc

marble crypt
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kasa is priced quite cheap but I'm not sure if any of them are significantly different or better than the others

forest edge
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you should look to see if you have a neutral wire at the switch before anything. might save you a few headaches down the road

late gate
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Talking about road, here in Norway they built a multi billion bicycle road that is 50cm wider than some regular roads

forest edge
green inlet
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@tidal bronze , framing the second story tomorrow 😎. Taking it light again. Couple mich ultras. My spirits are broken. Can’t find all the awesomeness you have on the west coast.

tidal bronze
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Good luck with that! Should swing by and grab some one of these days

forest edge
tidal bronze
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Always.

dull chasm
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@forest edge @tidal bronze would have them hidden better than that

forest edge
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well I assumed that was still a work in progress, the cabinet mesh doors haven't been added yet lol

tidal bronze
dull chasm
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trade your message for my 50mph + winds

forest edge
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look at that fancy crap.. gots himself a tv's on his brewing machinadohicky

dull chasm
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cant miss oprah ....he can still watch while pouing coffee on his dohicky

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@tidal bronze you gotta water your dohicky 🤣

tidal bronze
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brewing machinadohicky
@forest edge LMAO

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@dull chasm been pulling a Sonoma for 2 years, too lazy to connect the damn water. Going to try some electrical tape dohicky to route water tomorrow, sonoma style.

forest edge
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garden hose and some duct tape.. presto

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hook it up to one of those auto sprinkler thingmabob and time it just right to add water only when needed

dull chasm
forest edge
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@dull chasm you started tapping your foot and running your fingers along the brim of your cowboy hat when you heard that song.. don't lie

dull chasm
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yep

forest edge
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country line dancing as your house picks up and flys away Dorthy style

tidal bronze
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Can't do it like that. I need to get HP rack first. Gotta run 3 x 1200GW kettles which in turn triggers the sprinklers. Come on now, gotta maintain standards.

dull chasm
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Atx would be proud

forest edge
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@tidal bronze you should consult @clear ferry on the best method to power those kettles

tidal bronze
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After your kettle jokes I crack up every time I plug something in the wall. 🙂

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Too excited, nest speakers shipped today. Better live up to the damn hype.

forest edge
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they won't. they are not ball shaped like the new alexa ones

tidal bronze
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ball?

forest edge
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inferior design

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you didn't see the new echo's yet?

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lol

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the kid ones make sense

tidal bronze
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lost interest in them years ago.

forest edge
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they are ball shaped now

tidal bronze
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oh ok

forest edge
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so you can optionally punt them out of anger

subtle pasture
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Yeah, not a fan of the new form factor...

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There were lots of clever mounting solutions for the original hockey puck shaped ones. These are basically restricted to table tops

forest edge
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you could glue to the ceiling

subtle pasture
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Instructions unclear, SonomaGTS glued to ceiling

forest edge
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the alexa ball, you said restricted to table top, I said you could glue it to the ceiling

forest edge
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Good. You pinpointed the problem. The next step is washing it out with soap.

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Dan Aykroyd

dull flame
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Hello

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just so you know "have you tried turning it off and on again" is an important first step to troubleshooting

clever mortar
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It has previous been proven here that that extends to the whole house...

nocturne aspen
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Im looking for a wifi, battery-powered (preferably with solar charging), small (dome or something similar) camera with an external antenna port. Has anyone seen anything like that or maybe a DIY solution?

dusky plank
forest edge
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put together a discord server for a starcraft community ever since discord came into existence and I am just NOW making it a community server, talk about slacking lol

clear ferry
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No not slack

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Discord

light trout
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Boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.

tame cove
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Hello everyone

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i'm thinking here about nice ideas for the new tags option in Home Assistant

dusky plank
last cedar
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How loud are apc smx 2U units? The 1000VA and 1400VA ones. Thinking plugged into mains ans battery charged. If anyone has one

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I am guessing raw meat lover might have one

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You know who you are :P

clear ferry
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🦵

forest edge
clear ferry
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Nah, don't touch APC stuff much

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I have a cheap ass 2200va in my garage, can't hear it over anything else down there anyway

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Powerwalker is the brand I think

forest edge
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between your rack of 80's servers and a 3d printer on it's last leg, I would doubt you'd hear a plane crashing into your back yard lol

clear ferry
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Don't forget my Norwegian black metal, my ultra progressive rock and my music studio

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🤏

forest edge
clear ferry
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Techno 🤢

last cedar
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@forest edge brb moving to Korea

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Chonky trash pandas are life

forest edge
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been having a young adult one hanging in my back yard the last week or so, keep having to go shoo it off so it don't eat the cat food I have in the garage for a neighbors cat lol

last cedar
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Catch it and post it to me

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Fill out the custom forms for a cat

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Honest mistake

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They are so alike, hard to tell the difference

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I will be telling the landlord it is a cat anyway

dull flame
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@last cedar ?

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... hello!

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Fancy meeting you here!

last cedar
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😂

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Small world haha

dull flame
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Yeah

forest edge
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lol poor thing wouldn't survive the trip

last cedar
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You can send it economy class

dull flame
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I ended up forking custom_header after it got abandoned and I'm currently in the process of refactoring, and saney-fying the code into a more maintainable state

forest edge
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I ended up forking custom_header after it got abandoned and I'm currently in the process of refactoring, and saney-fying the code into a more maintainable state
@dull flame alot of people been asking about it lately, they would like that idea lol

dull flame
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Maintainer wasn't lying when they said it was... a bit of a mess. Which often happens when you start out with a small idea and then just shoehorn in new stuff into it. Hopefully I can make it into something modular, deprecate all the features that go into the core library, and see if I can't make it into a maintainable thing

dusky plank
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tell maykar about it, hes also here

dull flame
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Maybe later

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don't wanna ping someone I don't personally know about something I may drop in 5 minutes if I hit a brick wall

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I think I have a good chance of cleaning most of this up by starting to replace a lot of strange stuff with promises

light trout
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I've done a lot of shit in the past, take maykar's advise to split it up, if you don't now matter how you refactor it now, it will en up in a mess eventually

dull flame
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Oh, I intend to

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My plan is to make a _core thing

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I'm a JS/webapp developer by trade, and this isn't my first rodeo making rather complex JS thingies 😅

dusky plank
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he's about to transfer major things to core with @ bramkragten

dull flame
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Mhmm, I'm keeping an eye on that

dusky plank
dull flame
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I was mostly concerned about the performance issues maykar highlighted, so like... 90% of the reason for this cleanup is for my own "I wanna get rid of the performance issues!" sake

clear ferry
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I'm glad I gave up programming 20 years ago, or else I'd be grumpy like @light trout

dusky plank
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laughs in delphi

clear ferry
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I touched that once

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That was enough

dusky plank
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can confirm

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just saw that it's still being used, thought it was dead already

dull flame
light trout
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Users

clear ferry
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Users 🤢

light trout
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add stale bot, that should clear some out 😄

clear ferry
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If vscode could only get arsed to support freebsd

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💩

dusky plank
light trout
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It "works", but don't do it

obsidian vessel
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You're asking too much of Micro$oft , @clear ferry

clear ferry
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Aye, thankfully I know how vi works

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So I'll be fine

light trout
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I know :q, that's enough for me

dusky plank
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nano : 120%

dull flame
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@light trout :q! is better, for when you accidentally did something

dusky plank
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make that :wq!

light trout
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If I did something, new console && sudo reboot is my best bet

dull flame
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At least it's not joe

light trout
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It's easier to get out of IKEA

dull flame
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Definitely

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I'm a Swede I know IKEA like my own butt

dusky plank
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lots of 🍑 recently

clear ferry
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Gotta know a proper editor when you work with real servers

dull flame
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Isn't that the reason so many people are in love with terminal based editors?

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you can ssh into a server and just type emacs/vi/nano

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and have your editor running on the server?

clear ferry
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Yes, or work in an actual console

dull flame
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who works in an actual console anymore? Like, everything is in the cloud, there is only ssh

clear ferry
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I do, a lot

dusky plank
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hate win for that... no proper console afaik, can't use ctrl+a, ctrl+e, ctrl+v anywhere

clear ferry
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For systems that keep the world running

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Or airgapped systems

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Don't tell @forest edge

dusky plank
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oh yeah, back to topic A I R G A P P E D

light trout
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Sounds like a apple product

dull flame
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Airgapped doesn't make as much sense anymore

clear ferry
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No, my systems have uptime @light trout

dull flame
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when you can send data traffic over the air...

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like, as a word

clear ferry
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@dull flame tell that to the military server 5 Kms inside a mountain with two emp gates

light trout
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It's needed for military installations

dull flame
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that feels like there's a LOT more between the world and those servers than air

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like, for instance, mountain

dusky plank
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next station: dark sites

light trout
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Same with healthcare, some of those systems needs to be airgapped

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The servers are located on-site @dull flame not cloud

clear ferry
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Or other actual important systems

dull flame
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... yes

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but like

clear ferry
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Cloud🤢

dull flame
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airgapped, as a word, doesn't make much sense today

clear ferry
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Sure it does

dull flame
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when you have things like high speed links over radio, which makes air a very very poor data-traffic isolator, and ... well... you'd be better off putting a mountain in between

dusky plank
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i think @forest edge found a frend

clear ferry
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The system is gapped from the actual internet or another network

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By air

dusky plank
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you transfer your data with a usb stick - from one net to the other

dull flame
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So is my laptop

clear ferry
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@dusky plank it's hard to discuss with non network people you see 🧙

dull flame
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I understand the concept

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"no connection to a WAN"

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I'm arguing the component parts "air" and "gap" makes little sense when I frequently ignore the air between my laptop and my router with WiFi

dusky plank
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no connection at all fits beter I believe, but I don't get most of this shenanigans either

dull flame
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You can have an isolated network, where 2 or more computers/servers can network together, but none of them have access to the internet through any means

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that's still "a connection" just not to the Interrnet another form of WAN

clear ferry
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The term has been used for 40 years, everyone knows what it is, as such it still makes sense

dull flame
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... yes

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I'm ... trying to make a linguistics joke

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I'm not actually advocating changing the words

dull chasm
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i have several systems that are air gapped .....makes perfect sense ....the term has been used for decades

light trout
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Good morning @dull chasm 👋 ☕

dull flame
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I'm just pointing at how technology advanced in such a way where the premise previously coined terms were based on have been worked around

dull chasm
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morning

dusky plank
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haven't talked to my father in decades - he's also airgapped

dull chasm
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it has nothing to do with tech......its a term highly reconized within the industry

dull flame
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Nothing to do with tech?

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It's a networking term

dull chasm
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not with its advancement

dull flame
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But the term COMES from the fact that, if you unplug a computer from a network, it can no longer communicate with said network. If there's no physical connection, aka only air, between two network nodes, they can't communicate. That was the case in ye olden days when people coined a lot of the networking terms. Then that term, in of itself got the definition "isolated computer and/or network"

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But the heritage of how it came to be is still baked into the word itself, if you just look at the component parts, and ... that's pretty funny

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It's a JOKE

light trout
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/joke

500: Internal server error

dull chasm
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lol air gapped systems can span continets ....military which i spent a decade in ......still has them to this day

clear ferry
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It is no laughing matter

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🤕 🤕

dull flame
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I... know what it's modern meaning is

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I'm...

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making an etymology/linguistics joke

dull chasm
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hell we had serial connections that spanned oceans

light trout
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That's cool

dusky plank
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baud rate: 1

dull chasm
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hell loran c before gps ....kept timing (mostly crypto) and was used for locations of ships .....all radio and serial

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damn i better shut up ...showing my age ....most here never heard of loran c

clear ferry
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Vasiley just revealed he fought in the war beside general Lee 👴

dull chasm
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was still used in the late 80's into 90's

dusky plank
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looked it up... seems to be the ancient version of LoRa

clear ferry
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You mean before @light trout was born?

dull chasm
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def....

clear ferry
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🤏

late gate
#

lol whats up with forums and agressive mods? im on two forums ipcamtalk and plex, and both got mods from hell. I just posted in the plex forum wondering if plex tried to fix a long term codec issue that require a hardcoded workaround, and of course a mod steps in and saying if workaround is not for me then kinda f off, even if its a plex pass (paid) feature. Seem like mods give people anger issues lol

clever mortar
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Becoming a mod requires you've been helping out long enough to become jaded and frustrated with the depths of human stupidity...

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Or at least, that appears to be the informal requirement 😄

late gate
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but seriously is it wrong to ask a paid software if they have reported the bug to intel so people dont need to use a workaround, but the paid software mods thinks its the users job to talk to intel to solve the issue

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like omg why do I bother

clever mortar
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Oh, I agree, particularly about the Plex forums

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They used to be better...

late gate
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I have higher expextation for plex since its really not free, its a paid software

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then I expect more

dull chasm
#

but i bet the mods are not paid

late gate
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no, but they represent the paid software

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who knows, might be me that come of as rude lol

light trout
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Not really, mods are mostly users with some additional access

clever mortar
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And just users with a pretty/ugly colour to their name

late gate
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sometimes I understand. I was part owner of a forum with 20million posts, and it was frustrating sometimes. But you come a long way with a friendly tone

clear ferry
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so it is only @clever mortar now working on the plex forums

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good to know

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thank goodness I don't frequent much forums

late gate
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@clear ferry was not easier with diskusjon.no - it was a mess in its beginning when we started it

clear ferry
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🤢

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I was really never there either

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I was a higher ranked person on freakforum for over a decade

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but meh

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probably the forum I've frequented most ever

dull chasm
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@clear ferry really Freak Forum ....i would have never guessed

clever mortar
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They renamed it Home Assistant 😉

clear ferry
late gate
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@clear ferry I was part of starting the whole hardware.no and the forum. it was a completely different community before it was bought by the media i norway

tidal bronze
#

@dull chasm things are ok? Winds died down ?

dull chasm
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🤟 you too @clear ferry

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@tidal bronze yes pretty weather .....15 mph wind speeds now ....nothing but some limbs in yard

tidal bronze
#

That's good to hear. They lose umph at landfall but strange how they hang around for longer

dull chasm
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yep ....trying to save every dime to move to property that is further north

tidal bronze
#

That's the way to go. Property prices gone up like here ?

dull chasm
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not really ....katrina made a big spike here where i am now but it was by developers that raised the subdivision and caused flooding to existing land owners

tidal bronze
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I hear ya. Here Prices gone up almost 26% it just don't make sense.

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I think, overall market is up.

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I would hold till February

dull chasm
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it almost doubled here ...but they caused a diversity between existing poplualtion and people moving from effuent new orleans neighborhoods to here bringing there i dont give two shits about you ......we got money and will build higher and raise taxes to support us

tidal bronze
#

Same here 10 bids minimum per house some even 20. 20k over bid on average. I have no idea where they are coming from. I guess in a few years only ADU's will be left.

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If that.

late gate
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I just sold a house during corona and it was almost impossible to sell

tidal bronze
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No houses to buy here at all.

dull chasm
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are you not norway .... i thought everything there is perfect ......ecomony .....heathcare ...housing ....col and etc .......

late gate
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lol on paper

dull chasm
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well you better tell @clear ferry he braggs

tidal bronze
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Oh like any other place. @late gate 👍

late gate
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I have been through cancer in norway - would be better off anywhere else

dull chasm
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you didnt pay zero and healthy as a ox afterwards

late gate
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I paid everything cause it was no capacity on the public hospitals, and the meds afterwards cost so much you have to decide between food or meds

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on paper its an utopia. if you get cancer you should get treatment within 3 weeks, but after a year it was so bad I had to go private

dull chasm
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damn socialism failed .....grant it i am sorry ...so so sorry ....but its not what i hear

late gate
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right now I eat once a day cause meds cost me a year salary

dull chasm
#

damn ....you need help ....i am sure we can

late gate
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so that norway got free healthcare and meds, yes true on paper and for many

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no, im good 🙂

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thank you

dull chasm
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you are welcome ...i have had help and not embarsed to say .....i do ok now but i work 60ish hours a week

late gate
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I sadly have no energy yet to work even if im healthy. being sick is not just the sickness, but the recovery

vernal rose
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Morning chaps. Anyone flashed a Sonoff basic? 😄

tidal bronze
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@late gate great to hear that you are on your way to recovery

dull chasm
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@late gate my wife is still dealing with cancer .... i feel your pain ......she acts 80 but is only 42

late gate
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I hope she will beat it. I dont wish it on my worst enemy

vernal rose
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I think i piped up at the wrong time

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Sorry to hear that Aleks

dull chasm
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@vernal rose no this is just a chit chat channel ....i would go to #hardware-archived so that your topic does not get lost

vernal rose
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Ah thanks. Cheers Vasiley

late gate
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So just FYI with cancer meds and PTSD from army som im on some meds. If sometime I sounds drunk or high or disrespectful in any way sometimes the meds fuck with my head

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do not take it personally

dull chasm
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you are cool ......hell atx sounds like that sober

tidal bronze
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Lmao

clear ferry
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Really @late gate , I know 8 people who have had cancer, three of them in family and all had help within a month, heck my family has had a lot of medical stuff done, it hardly ever takes more than a month to get stuff done, free hospital choice etc, just get the government to send you to the other side of the country 🤷‍♂️

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For my own stuff I get an appointment usually within 2 weeks since I live in the capitol

late gate
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@clear ferry sadly that was not my experience as I had a cancer only AHUS could treat

clear ferry
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That sucks

dull chasm
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@tidal bronze sob ....that is stupid ....heck i am trying to get 5k toghter to move ....thinking of working part time at home depot and they sell like that

late gate
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im happy everyone you know got treatment @clear ferry

clear ferry
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Neighbor kid just had brain cancer, he was admitted immediately and just had his last treatment two weeks ago

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At Ahus that too

late gate
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when the system works, it works great

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but when it doesnt it extremely difficult

tidal bronze
#

It's not for everyone as with any other country.

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I guess.

late gate
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im kinda lucky I had the economy to do mr/ct, biopsy etc private, but what about people who cant afford that

tidal bronze
#

Healthcare here sucks for many. Personally for me no, it's outstanding. But just because its good for few does not mean its great. Nothing is perfect

dull chasm
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same for me ....but i fall under veterans health

late gate
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@dull chasm afghanistan?

dull chasm
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well kinda ....desert storm ...somialia ....i was on qrf team ....Army Airborne Ranger

late gate
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I see. thank you for your service. Afghanistan here

dull chasm
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same here and thanks

tidal bronze
#

Early AM flights simply sucks. 😫

dull chasm
#

i hate say but it seems that norway is human too .....things are not as perfect as it seems

clear ferry
#

🤏

last cedar
#

Slight sarcasm here.... How long till 117 gets released? It feels like mere seconds went by from 115 to 116

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I need to get back up to speed with HA

dusky plank
#

need your 14daily upgrade fix?

last cedar
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Nope. Just need to know what I need to read up on. By the time I go through thr 114 to 115 changelog, 117 has been released! Hehe

late gate
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@last cedar 117 will have windows me theme and stability so I just cant wait!

last cedar
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in the distance, sirens

clear ferry
#

The only way to interact will now be tags, Lovelace is retired

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🤢

clever mortar
#

You forgot interpretive mime

clear ferry
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Interpretive tags

clever mortar
#

The system does what it thinks you wanted, after consulting the tea leaves

last cedar
#

How far away is mind control then?

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If 117 works by tea readings, is telepathy planned for 118?

clever mortar
#

It was actually introduced in 0.13, but for some reason HA wouldn't start...

static schooner
#

"I'm sorry Dave..."

forest edge
#

"Daisy, Daisy give me your answer do."

clear ferry
#

I can't do that Dave.....

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My mind is going.... Dave....

tidal bronze
#

@forest edge so is the turf is grassy ?

forest edge
#

@tidal bronze are you drunk?

clear ferry
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When is he not

clever mortar
#

The correct question is ... why is he sober?

tidal bronze
#

Not yet. Shortest trip to Vegas 40 minutes in Vegas. Lol. I guess you don't know rest of Daisey's story. 😆 @forest edge

forest edge
#

oh lol no, it wasn't a popular thing when I was younger so never understood how it made it into space oddesy lol

tidal bronze
shy comet
#

@tidal bronze we started Tiny World last night....pretty neat actually...dig the atmos LOL

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thanks for the recommendation

clear ferry
#

Every time I read this

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I'm equally perplexed

shy comet
#

didnt find a HDR rip but there was 2160p

tidal bronze
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No HDR sadly.

forest edge
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@tidal bronze you house hunting while there for your new home? lol

shy comet
#

oh even on apple tv?

late gate
#

Don’t forget it’s mental health day and we all in home automation need som therapy from mailbox sensors to toilet seat pressure sensors

tidal bronze
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@forest edge picking up keys actually. 👍

shy comet
#

or have they not cracked that case yet lol

clear ferry
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We are all fucking mental

dusky plank
clear ferry
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There is no dark side of the moon, as a matter of fact it is all dark

tidal bronze
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@shy comet if you come across i don't mind watching it again

shy comet
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ill let you know but once i watch it i probably wont be searching again LOL

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i dig the atmos effects when the elephants are walking over the camera

forest edge
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@clear ferry pretty sure they had to build a separate hydroelectric station just to handle your rats nest of crap you plug in lol

tidal bronze
#

@shy comet can you belive the effort they made on camera positioning

shy comet
#

had to be a ton of trail cams right?

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like high end trail cams

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with high end mics lol

tidal bronze
#

Some are gopros, guess they dug holes layered glass

forest edge
#

it's all cgi.. 🤫

tidal bronze
#

Nopes. Daisey

dusky plank
#

they gave canon 5Ds to lions to play 🤷‍♂️

tidal bronze
#

Canon ? Oh boy do they make cameras anymore.

forest edge
#

the sound effects are from two dudes in a closet with skillets and aluminum foil

tidal bronze
#

Lol.

dusky plank
#

🐘 🦁

tidal bronze
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@forest edge came across irresistible deal closed it on Wednesday. Don't know when it will rent but was too sweet to pass by.

forest edge
#

lol you bought a house in vegas and put it up for rent?

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just watched a video the other day where some cali business owner was listing 5 reasons to move out of California

tidal bronze
#

No reason for me to move out for any reason. 😝

forest edge
#

said he took his kids to santa blvd or whatever the pier name is and his daughter brought him back a drug needle lol

tidal bronze
#

Nice.

forest edge
#

homeless went from like 40k in 2011 to like 60k in 2019

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dude was raging lol

tidal bronze
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Actually 100k.

forest edge
#

said cops were instructed to nto do anything about it so the homeless tents and trash are taking over as taxes keeps going up lol

tidal bronze
#

Taxes are indeed high. But its all good. I look at life differently

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Wouldn't change a thing

forest edge
#

when looking through poo covered goggles you see the beauty when light reflects off the corn chunks huh?

tidal bronze
#

People are strange when you make less you want all the help and tax cuts, you make more and still you want to pay less taxes. How is shit going to work.

forest edge
#

he talked about the income tax the 54% or whatever

tidal bronze
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That's BS.

forest edge
#

said in some cases some people would pay more in overall taxes then they make

tidal bronze
#

Obviously BS

forest edge
#

guess time will tell what happens, this will be an intneresting year.. cali may just swing the other way lol

clear ferry
tidal bronze
#

Lol now you are being very optimistic. I guess Google knows what you like to watch and keeps piling on. @forest edge

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Why would you want to stay here if you are unhappy just move on. Tons who wants to move in. Make some space.

clear ferry
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Income tax of 54% you say

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Sounds like Denmark

tidal bronze
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Max would be 40

clear ferry
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Too damn high 🙅

forest edge
#

@tidal bronze you kidding, i skip most the videos, I only watch the ones where some dude gets hit by a car lol

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@clear ferry you know the reason why that gif keeps showing the numbers bounce is cause you bastards are the type that when one gets the covid they are like, "well fuck if i'm going to suffer, you all will suffer" and they go out and cough on your brown cheese

clear ferry
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Probably in the UK yes

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In Norway, not so much

forest edge
#

it was showing norway doing the same thing lol

clear ferry
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We just generally avoid people anyway

clever mortar
#

In the UK half our problem are those who think that their life revolves around the pub...

tidal bronze
#

But it should right ?

clever mortar
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Apparently

clear ferry
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I hear the great American education system has shown you Norway on the map of UK, I'm not surprised @forest edge

tidal bronze
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Is it in any map ?

forest edge
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not on the map, on the thing you listed last week rotf

tidal bronze
#

I think he is referring to electric kettle map

forest edge
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nah he linked a covid cases in norway site and the shit was all over the place lol

clear ferry
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Yes our 15k confirmed cases and 275 deaths are insane

tidal bronze
#

But in any case he is doing a public service for all the arctic flights. When GPS fails they use his garage for tracking.

forest edge
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@clear ferry but there is only 15k people in the whole country.,..

tidal bronze
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Oh the 878 ft social distancing

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What happened to all the uber drivers ? Wait times are nuts.

forest edge
#

prob stuck delivering food

clear ferry
dusky plank
clear ferry
#

Oh right, the American midget has been here filming

late gate
#

I was wondering why my phone was acting like a demon and found somehow I enabled voice controlled phone for blind people.

karmic rampart
#

talking really fast?

clear ferry
forest edge
#

that norwegian design?

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you imagine stepping out of your front door in the morning with a cup of coffee just to get kicked by a roo that was there lol

night zodiac
#

girlfriend is making biscuits and gravy

deft pewter
dull chasm
#

Buscuits and gravy look great

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wtf is that mono

deft pewter
#

That's biscuits and gravy, of course.

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Can't beat a mix of custard creams and chocolate bourbons with some Bisto.

dull chasm
#

i can

deft pewter
#

Whenever an American talks about 'biscuits and gravy', that's what us Brits imagine they're talking about.

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I've had biscuits and gravy and think it's pretty decent... but you'll get strange reactions out of anyone that hasn't actually encountered the dish.

clever mortar
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Yeah, first time I heard somebody talking about it my reaction was very much WTF

dull chasm
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As americans i see brits as this story told by Abraham Lincoln
Ethan Allen returned to England after the war, and the British made fun of him. One day they put a picture of George Washington in an outhouse where Allen would be sure to see it. He used the outhouse but said nothing about the picture. Then the British asked him about it and Allen said it was a very appropriate place for an Englishman to hang the picture because “nothing will make an Englishman shit so quick as the sight of General Washington.”

forest edge
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@deft pewter that looks similar to what my toilet looked like after eating too many pancakes with too much syrup

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@night zodiac good chunky sausage, tell her she did well lol

night zodiac
#

she makes it just like my mother did because my mother taught her how, lol

forest edge
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lol

clear ferry
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Quite American dish

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Never had it

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Looked for it in Georgia

forest edge
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you didn't look very hard then cause ALL southren states have thier signature biscuits n gravy dishes

deft pewter
#

I managed to find it even amongst all the tourist crap in Orlando, FL.

clear ferry
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I was too busy working you see

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Only two weeks of American cuisine

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💩

forest edge
#

excuses, you were afraid to leave your hotel room lol

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couldn't even try red robin, that says it all

clear ferry
#

Should have rented a car for sure

forest edge
#

yup, then we could have heard you complain about murican cars for 2 weeks lol

clear ferry
#

Yaaaaas

turbid stirrup
#

I looked up what 'muricans mean by biscuits and gravy.
Now that I've seen a picture of this jumbled up thing you call breakfast, I finally understand why you mangle the pronunciation of English... If that's what I had to start my day with, nothing understandable would come out.

gloomy canyon
#

i got some template sensors with entity_id for updates past 0.115 now I got the error The 'entity_id' option is deprecated, please remove it from your configuration

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any ideas how to find the yaml with that sensor?

static schooner
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look through your config or search for entity_id:? how many sensors do you have?

gloomy canyon
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$ find . -not -path "./2remind/*" -iname '*.yaml' -exec grep --color -rHi "entity_id:" {} \; |wc -l 277

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😦

static schooner
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are they really spread out across a bunch of YAML files?

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it's only template sensors

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in my config, they're all in sensors.yaml, so it's pretty simple

gloomy canyon
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must be inside the packages dir

static schooner
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seems like one of those things that you could spend as much time trying to automate as just manually doing it

gloomy canyon
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but thanks anyway

tidal bronze
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Gravy ? @forest edge

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Why would you be back for gravy ? 🤔

dull chasm
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@forest edge this looks so dang disgusting ....prolly someones favorite ...wont mention no namehttps://d2y5sgsy8bbmb8.cloudfront.net/v2/b0dc17c8-3a79-5fc2-b0a8-3572e4c5b0eb/ShortForm-Generic-480p-16-9-1409173089793-rpcbe5.mp4

forest edge
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@dull chasm I already called him out on doing that gross crap lol

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@tidal bronze wouldn't expect veggie warriors to know what real food is much like those weirdo's across the pond lol

tidal bronze
dull chasm
forest edge
tidal bronze
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The same

fallen furnace
tidal bronze
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Some taco al pastor. You can use the gravy to wash the paper plates.

night zodiac
forest edge
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@tidal bronze got dinner from a parking lot diner wearing chin diapers did ya?

granite hare
forest edge
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how disinfecting

gloomy canyon
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nothing to commit, working tree clean 💪

hearty depot
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so silent here today, what's going on?

light trout
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@clear ferry is on 👶 duty

clear ferry
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Actually

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yes I am

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with a toddler who has a sinus infection

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🤣

hearty depot
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mhmm.. I guess this ssd will die soonish

>U   1 root@deb-mbp       Sat Sep 19 04:11  34/1097  SMART error (Usage) detected on host: deb-mbp
 U   2 root@deb-mbp       Sun Sep 20 04:11  33/1070  SMART error (Usage) detected on host: deb-mbp
 U   3 root@deb-mbp       Mon Sep 21 04:11  33/1070  SMART error (Usage) detected on host: deb-mbp
 U   5 root@deb-mbp       Wed Sep 23 03:41  33/1070  SMART error (Usage) detected on host: deb-mbp
 U  10 root@deb-mbp       Thu Sep 24 03:41  33/1071  SMART error (Usage) detected on host: deb-mbp
 U  15 root@deb-mbp       Fri Sep 25 03:41  33/1071  SMART error (Usage) detected on host: deb-mbp
 U  20 root@deb-mbp       Sat Sep 26 04:11  33/1071  SMART error (Usage) detected on host: deb-mbp
 U  25 root@deb-mbp       Sun Sep 27 04:11  33/1071  SMART error (Usage) detected on host: deb-mbp
 U  30 root@deb-mbp       Mon Sep 28 04:11  33/1071  SMART error (Usage) detected on host: deb-mbp
clear ferry
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a dying SSD ? those are rare

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we proactivly replace them when they have 96% life left

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🤣

hearty depot
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the backup chronjob is to much to handle for that poor thing - I mean thats only like.. 25Gb?

clear ferry
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Chrons job

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sounds painful

hearty depot
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aah - always the h

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cron job

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I give my Dad the fault, he told me bout C[h]ronus

clear ferry
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You mean Kronos

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🤣

hearty depot
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my 7 year old me just always assosicated the h with it - anoyes the shit out of me. same happens when I try to list cronjobs chr<tab>croot Fuck.

clear ferry
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But chronos is an NTP Daemon if memory serves right

hearty depot
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might be, but not installed by default

clear ferry
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No it was chrony

steel crag
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You mean Kronos
@clear ferry well Krónoς but close

clear ferry
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Psssh

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φέτα

steel crag
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ολόκληρος

red sequoia
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Hey is there and Channel to diskuss a project?

clever mortar
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Depends on what you mean

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"a project" is quite vague 😉

red sequoia
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I am living in a flat and want to make my dorebuzzer smart and attach a dore cam for the cam i am thinking Ring but i dont want to invest nearly 200 Euros for a nukie opener to operate the dore buzzer.

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Concept is pacage guy Rings i can operate the buzzer and dorecam from anyware

clever mortar
red sequoia
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Thanks a lot as always tinkerman

tidal bronze
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Any interesting prime day deals ?

velvet horizonBOT
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dusky plank
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@rotund sphinx

clever mortar
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If you can install Python on it, sure

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🤣

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Good luck, you'll need it

dusky plank
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root it and install docker

clever mortar
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(and it still won't work)

dusky plank
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why not, it's linux after all

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the chances you'll find a docker "app" goes to virtually zero

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that's not what i told you

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don't forget to run this without battery, else it will go up in flames

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do you know any 24h server that run on battery?

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in combination with your poor cpu that will run on full load then - it will cause damage

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it is

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just buy a pi

obsidian quail
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you can probably even get a 2nd/3rd gen pi for free depending where you are

dusky plank
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forget the camera in this scenario

obsidian quail
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already checked on willhaben?

dusky plank
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you think austria is better?

clever mortar
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The CPU will get hot, the battery will get hot from both that and the power draw. The results will be a spicy pillow

dusky plank
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your insurance will love you

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you can use it as a webcam, but thats about it

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or maybe run a webserver on it

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plenty of android apps out there which act as a webserver

clever mortar
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Throw it in a drawer and use it if your other phone breaks

dusky plank
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i had a old iphone4 act as a proxy and vnc server to test out ios apps, make calls, imessage and stuff... just be creative

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so now we have a reason why you want to make sth out of it

twin harbor
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Do any of you know of any christmas lights that have RGB LEDs instead of the single-colored ones? I want something that fits in the little clips that go on gutters, not strip lights.

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nah

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i just want to be able to do simple stuff like make them green on st patricks day or orange for halloween

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and maybe fade red to green at christmas

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I was hoping to connect to an ESP8266 running tasmota or WLED or something

tidal bronze
dusky plank
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i smell cloud

dull chasm
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@tidal bronze from klispch to that toy 🤣

tidal bronze
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Oh no that will not happen. Just to replace all GH mini

twin harbor
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Vasiley: I have some of those, I was hoping for something more like the traditional US-style with green wires (and not so bulky)

dull chasm
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well they have to have chip ....so they smallest you gonna get in rgb

clear ferry
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I just printed 60 clips for my ws2811s today

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I have 700 of them though

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Or maybe 900

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I don't remember anymore

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🤕

dull chasm
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i have at least that much also ....hell 300 under bed ..... sexy time

twin harbor
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Vasiley: non-addressable doesn't need a chip, and non-addressable is OK by me for this project

twin harbor
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youch

tidal bronze
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@dull chasm very impressed with nest audio. Outstanding bass for the size of the speaker. Great dynamic range as well. Finally!

night zodiac
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😮

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I thought I was told you wouldn't be interested in that

tidal bronze
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CCA always priority but Nest audio is a great replacement for the other cast speakers,

night zodiac
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😛

dull chasm
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hmmm so she respond with empathy now LOL

tidal bronze
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@night zodiac damn loud as well. Gotta a measure and see what's the max output. 🙂

night zodiac
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very nice

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I think my girlfriends eyes would do 2 revolutions if she heard I bought another one

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I just bought her some wireless ear buds by google

tidal bronze
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I think it will be great for stereo pairs as well.

night zodiac
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does it let you configure stereo? that is neat

tidal bronze
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It does. I don't use it that way but compared to mini and displays output on this is worlds apart.

night zodiac
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I have had so much loud noise around me lately. I bought some closed back headphones to try and if those don't work out, I'll get cancelling

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I like open ear but too much noise lately

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shitty neighbors everywhere

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fireworks, confederate flag waving demolition derby cars, barking dogs nonstop, children on trampolines right next to my office (I don't mind kids as much, they're kids)

dusky plank
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nothing beats a quiet place

night zodiac
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yeah, I miss my old quiet neighborhoods

tidal bronze
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Unless I am traveling open ear is best OR only way to go. I use electrostatics at home.

night zodiac
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I am a big fan of my HD 650's

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You can refurbish the foam every couple of years and they are perfect

tidal bronze
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Love my stax upgraded with lambskin last year.

night zodiac
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I almost went with lamb skin but I went more stockish

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nice for wearing them 16 hours a day

tidal bronze
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The only downside to electrostatic is that nothing else will ever be the same. 🤣

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Those look nice.

night zodiac
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yeah, I would suggest them for sure

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very high quality

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they have all types of materials

dusky plank
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always had sennheiser before my airpods pro

night zodiac
tidal bronze
night zodiac
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those are what you have?

tidal bronze
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Yep.

night zodiac
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very nice

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you have a room dedicated to those?

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I am guessing there is an equally pricey AMP to go with it, haha

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I just use an audio interface that I think can do the 250ohm I headphones I bought fine

tidal bronze
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Any place is good 😆 mostly in my master.

night zodiac
tidal bronze
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I am still using an old driver going to upgrade the driver next year.

night zodiac
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actually I have, the new foam helped those highers not be so sharp

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just not have used them for music much since new foams

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those are for airplane, open ears for when it is calm, closed ears for shitty neighbors

tidal bronze
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I don't know much about in ear. Only use Jabra and samsung for calls. Never tried for music.

night zodiac
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google home group for when it is party time

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in ears are pretty great. I tried to get some budgeter ones and probably should have spent a bit more

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even though today, IEMs are really good overall

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not a lot of variation like there used to be

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If you ever get wild, try to find some that fit tips from comply

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Yay, Spotify added group sessions

light trout
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Remember to leave the group when you are done.
I was controlling what a friend of mine lisened to at work earlier this summer because we still shared a session from the day before 😄

night zodiac
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Haha.

clear ferry
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You have friends @light trout ?

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🤢

light trout
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some

night zodiac
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It is great that my girlfriend add music to the home group stuff now

clear ferry
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Me and the wife has had a shared playlist we just both add stuff to for years

light trout
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That's another option

night zodiac
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I usually just hand her my phone

light trout
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Back in 2014 (15?) when spotify still had apps, there was a "party" app, that let anyone in the same room (or with access to the code from the app) add a song to the queue, it's nice to see spotify bringing that functionality back

clear ferry
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That is noice, but that was also the last time I bothered going to a party last

light trout
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Yeah, that's more for us that are still "kids" and not taking care of them 😉

clear ferry
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Meh, I've been to five parties the last fifteen years probably

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And I've only had a kid for two

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💩

light trout
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15y ago I had not started school 😛

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that don't add up 🤔

clear ferry
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🤏

light trout
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25y 😂

restive zephyr
velvet horizonBOT
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@restive zephyr Please DO NOT cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond.

clever mortar
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Somebody will help you when they help you - have some patience 😉

restive zephyr
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Hey, long time no see😂 , yea ill wait

dull chasm
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@tidal bronze spl of 90db or bust ....

forest edge
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listen carefully as you can hear the sounds of an audiogeek call to another... what a strange intriguing sound they make as they converse with each other over God knows what..

dull chasm
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dont be hating because you jealous

tidal bronze
dull chasm
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U think kinda close 🤣

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@tidal bronze prolly only a db off or two and slightly less flat

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@forest edge nothing ...i am disappointed

forest edge
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disappointed in what

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the nest audio?

dull chasm
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you had no smart remarks ....

forest edge
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was outside, just now catching up lol

dull chasm
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lame

forest edge
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am alittle curious tho..

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do you sit on the floor to use your computer? cause that looks like a monitor and mouse there lol

dull chasm
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thats blue iris ....a dedicated pc for it

forest edge
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ah

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@tidal bronze does propping that pebble speaker in the air make it sound louder or something?

dull chasm
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@forest edge but you did not say nothing about how pretty the speaker is 😢

tidal bronze
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@dull chasm now you comparing apples to flan

dull chasm
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no shit huh

forest edge
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here he comes..

dull chasm
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run.....run.......run

clear ferry
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@dull chasm is that a monitor for ants?

dull chasm
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a 27inch i think ....

clear ferry
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So the display is 1:500 scale of speaker power, sounds reasonable

tidal bronze
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Atx is trying to clean something for the last few days, he can't seem to reach it. 🤔

forest edge
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@dull chasm has that speaker hooked a speak n say so he can hear the cow say moo more clearly.. duh

tidal bronze
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@forest edge I think his cows go quack

forest edge
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for a little bit there I thought they would make gargling noises underwater..

tidal bronze
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This shit is too funny.

dull chasm
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@forest edge ....i would rather deal with cow than most people nowdays

velvet horizonBOT
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dull chasm
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a animal will treat you as good if not better than you treat them ....a person not so much

clear ferry
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👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

forest edge
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especially if they are norwats. mean bastards

light trout
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We are a rare breed

subtle pasture
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@dusky plank There's so much wrong with that soldering stock photo...

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Holding the iron wrong, inappropriately tinted safety glasses, nothing to deal with the fumes, and she's working on the wrong side of the board...

unborn flame
dusky plank
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one cannot shit without farting, but one can fart without shitting

dull chasm
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depends on the diet .....

subtle pasture
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@dusky plank Truly, wisdom for the ages...

dull chasm
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the cali diet i bet is not safe to fart ...plus i bet it is frowned upon ....greenhouse gases and all

subtle pasture
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What's the cali diet? lol

dusky plank
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when was the last time you sharted?

dull chasm
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follow a rabbit and and eat what he does

subtle pasture
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sips from bottle of Soylent