Indeed.
#the-water-cooler
tidal bronze
forest edge
yea it was great for awhile
tidal bronze
You increased the rent and all turned to shit
forest edge
I had often considered going in on like a qtr cow from time to time but I got noone around here who will go in with me so the meat isn't wasted lol
tidal bronze
Go 50% cow 50% kale
forest edge
don't think the cows will eat the kale
tidal bronze
They eat olive kale is not a stretch
green inlet
Auh, just remembered after searching again. Can’t ship beer/wine/spirits to NC.
forest edge
do they?
i wouldn't know what cali cows eat or should I say, have no choice if they don't want to starve
tidal bronze
forest edge
wtf
green inlet
That’s foo foo meat Sonoma
tidal bronze
Thats the most expensive steak in the world.
forest edge
please
green inlet
It all comes from cows though.
forest edge
thats overpriced catered to the rich so they feel special
I bet in reality those cows actually eat rice
green inlet
They just age it longer
forest edge
grass fed cows produce the best meat, I don't see how anything would be better
tidal bronze
Have you tasted it?
forest edge
how would I? that looks like something that would require me to wear a tie to eat and that certianly isn't going to happen
forest edge
not going to put on a 3 piece suit just to eat beef that was fed some shrub
forest edge
pretty sure cloned beef is the rarest lol
that dude put spices and everything on that
I mean come on
he could have cooked Styrofoam using the same spices and it would have tasted the same
tidal bronze
Spices? Salt and pepper
green inlet
The most I paid for a steak was 100.00. It was good, but many other things I could spend a 100.00 and enjoy more
forest edge
I have had my fair share of fancy restaurant eating in my life and I still say the hole in the wall places where the cooks actually care about thier food taste better
tidal bronze
Sad thing about food is that its short lived.
forest edge
you obviously never eaten a twinkie
green inlet
Pretty sure prostitution lasts longer 🤣
tidal bronze
Since I don't do anything else, food is where all my money goes.
green inlet
A Twinkie ..... holy crap, I haven’t had one of those in prob 20 years
green inlet
Zebra cakes
tidal bronze
Gadgets is down the list, way down the list. Food and travel would be 1 and 2
forest edge
aren't you skinny?
tidal bronze
I am not vegan, sorry. 😂
Was going to hit 50 countries before 45 and covid threw a wrench in that. 😫
forest edge
you eat grass and stuff, if food is where your money is going you need to stop supporting those over priced places lol
isn't tickets cheaper now than they ever been? lol
tidal bronze
Lol. I do both truck food to Michelin
forest edge
hazmat suit, ziplock bag of seawead and your good to go!
lately getting out of the country may be a good thing
come back around mid 2021
cedar herald
So I have a question... who is Anne Therese? I keep seeing it in the template editor and just tried to google it (https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/698) found this and then wondered who home boy was 
forest edge
names the dev who implemented it wanted to use
last dirge
@tidal bronze
tidal bronze
They are messing with you
last dirge
it didn't even rain until an hour after they marked it "weather delay"
FexEx is fucked
wet pilot
Wonder if you can pick it up at the distribution center
wet pilot
Ah
last dirge
I ordered something from Lowe's mid-day Friday
wet pilot
Which is probably the root of the problem
last dirge
they generated the label that same day
FedEx still hasn't picked it up
I ordered two different shelving systems, they shipped in 6 packages
like 240 pounds of steel
I received the other 5 packages on 3 separate days
I'm pretty sure they've lost this somehow and they're not owning up to it
wet pilot
I'm leaning towards unable to move it or schedule the correct vehicle and team to do the last mile
last dirge
this shelf is 3 packages
two packages are 8' long and weigh about 50 pounds each
one package is like 2x4 and weighs 90 pounds
I got one of the 50 pound packages, and the 90 pound package
wet pilot
Oh super weird
last plaza
That’s why they don’t want to deliver to you @last dirge eventually it will force you to go there and pick it up for yourself. They just need reasons to avoid picking up heavy items.
forest edge
might have got damaged or the box fell apart
never had a delay like that but the ones I did have always came with the box being borked
clever mortar
https://hachanges.halfdecent.io/113-114 🙄
@light trout 🎉
light trout
Took longer than I wanted, did a complete rewrite 😄
On the plus side the backend now uses 10% of the CPU it used to use 😛
forest edge
heh finally posted my amcrest topic on the forum, was a mix between givving it time to make sure all was working and alittle bit of forgetting about it
shy comet
hmm wonder if Android 11 is gonna drop this week or next....history says this week 🤔
wintry crater
what's good in 11 apart from permissions
boreal pewter
Newer is always better, because it is newer
wintry crater
😄
dusky plank
steel crag
ooooh
trail crag
@wintry crater the power button long press dashboard has controls/widgets for anything in Google Assistant which is kinda cool
wet pilot
i find myself using that a lot
shy comet
Your on the beta? How is it?
light trout
oh... @clever mortar in case you are that person https://hachanges.halfdecent.io/95-114
steel crag
well we already have a ThatGuy ====>
clever mortar
@light trout I'll have you know... my other node is on 0.88, nothing as recent as 0.95 😛
light trout
Yeah, it's currently ratelimited at 20 versions, while I monitor the preformance
somber zinc
I've released my config into the wild! c;
https://github.com/lewxdev/home-assistant-config
light trout
Now you can get 88-114 @clever mortar good luck on that update! 🙈 can select from 46 as well, but I doubt any have that far back
static schooner
nuke it from orbit
rigid oriole
@somber zinc Hi, what does keywordless voice interactions mean exactly? How does that work? I've got everything set up with voice control and sorting out the logic is a real pain so that sounds interesting
somber zinc
Ah @rigid oriole, sorry I should've been more explicit. I don't actually have it set up yet, since I'm just getting started I didn't want to get too far into things without keeping track of changes
By "keywordless voice interactions", it's meant to be very similar to existing Google Assistant/Alexa interactions but (1) its specialised in dealing with devices/entities in HA and (2) there'd be no need for keywords like "Hey Google" or "Alexa".
As an example, I have an automation for my air conditioning called "ACC". To run that, I'd say "Engage ACC", and its processed through HA rather than Google --> HA (formerly "Hey Google, turn off ACC")
rigid oriole
That does sound interesting! The only way I could do it that was within my skill level was listen to the first word, send the phrase to a function depending on the first word, then evaluate the whole phrase with the function it gets sent to
It's something like a thousand lines of python but still fairly rigid because honestly I don't know how to code, just cobble
And I've been wondering how to improve how the setup understands words
somber zinc
Haha, yeah I haven't even started that part yet, I'm still learning about my Pi and HA in general, also learning Python in school.
Hopefully as I learn more and the project evolves, I can get closer to that end goal. And I'll definitely share what I learn along the way (;
rigid oriole
Sounds great! Always looking for a better way of doing things. I'll be keeping an eye out for sure, thanks for sharing 🤝
last dirge
@somber zinc so that requires a microphone on the HA instance?
somber zinc
Likely, I was thinking to have some connected speakers connected to HA to handle that and for accessibility. I'll likely make my own using low-powered Pis
nocturne aspen
is it a beta wednesday today?
nocturne aspen
thanks
and i can see that 17th is Home Assistants birthday
i wonder whats planned for 0.115 🙂
feels like Christmas Eve
light trout
You could look at github to see, but all the changes makes github timeout if you try 😂
deft pewter
.f2c 103
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
Warm
Though, humidity is the key - 40C at near 0% humidity isn't that bad. 20C at 100% humidity can be nasty
night zodiac
@somber zinc you copying my repo name? https://github.com/busheezy/home-assistant-config 😛
forest edge
you mean death by not being able to breathe lol
steel crag
well power just came back on
so there's A/C again in one room at least
what I have my A/C set to is prolly what the temp is in most other places LMFAO
I have my A/C set to 25C right now
.c2f 25
velvet horizonBOT
forest edge
@junior forge what is the latest on your rpi drive boot method? you had said you had an idea with using the sdcard in conjunction with an external drive? you still going down that path or just waiting to see what happens with official?
ebon heath
not sure what channel this fits in so i'll try here. You know what kinda silly IOT thing I want to set up. Some kind of sensor in my mailbox to tell if the mail has been delivered. The problem is, the mailbox is about 270 ft away, and theres a hill in the way.
i havent tested wifi single down there but im skeptical
forest edge
@ebon heath #diy-archived
ebon heath
👍
forest edge
use the discord search, i know others have already tackled that scenario many various ways
lethal ice
Z-Wave has a ~100m range in open air so if you have a mains-powered z-wave device in a front room of the house it could work!
ebon heath
sure enough, as recently as 8/28 it came up. thx for the tip
forest edge
anyone have the Pirates of the Caribbean song stuck in their head?
here, have it https://youtu.be/27mB8verLK8
steel crag
yes, and WHY IS THE RUM ALWAYS GONE
forest edge
|| looking at you @scenic radish !!!||
steel crag
did Tediore drink all the rum?
forest edge
lol
steel crag
I love this song for some reason
but I'm a POTC
I literally live 2 miles away from a tower Blackbeard used to hide out in, and less than 4 miles away from one of his gun battery stations
forest edge
the real life blackbeard isn't as cool as the movie version
real pirates were crusty and smelly
orchid rose
Talking of pirates, the best name I've heard is Ali Bitchin. The stories are quite interesting too
Dude was assassinated at the young age of 85
Otherwise he'd probably still be raiding your coasts
last dirge
@steel crag this one?
hushed basalt
One more day until The Boys season 2
Wonder if I should wait a month and a half until it's all out
forest edge
Wonder if I should wait a month and a half until it's all out
@hushed basalt that's what I do. I think the omen was suppose to come out with a second series too
steel crag
that's what I do. I think the omen was suppose to come out with a second series too
series or season?
static schooner
U.K. terminology
forest edge
tomato tomato
steel crag
and I see it says series
d'oh
so clearly I'm dumb, AND illiterate
today's not my day
static schooner
I see the different terms on Netflix depending on where the program comes from
steel crag
well I haven't loaded up my Netflix on a UK VPN before
but I haven't seen that on US or LATAM Netflix
forest edge
oh well i guess there won't be anymore good omens. so much for waiting for that lol
static schooner
I’m talking about individual shows. If they’re from the US, they use Seasons. If they’re not, they use Series
steel crag
but clear as day on BBC iPlayer 🤦♂️
acoustic talon
how can i use another weather forecast service? the default one is so inaccurate
cosmic lily
No release today?
static schooner
next week: https://developers.home-assistant.io/
steel crag
how can i use another weather forecast service?
velvet horizonBOT
forest edge
@acoustic talon #frontend-archived
steel crag
@acoustic talon #frontend-archived
@forest edge for a weather add-on?
forest edge
addon?
forest edge
it can be #integrations-archived or #frontend-archived
last dirge
FedEx is garbage
tidal bronze
@last dirge still didn't get it?
last dirge
nope, tracking wasn't even updated with a BS reason
tidal bronze
I think something to do with your hub
forest edge
@tidal bronze you still missing the 3-4 pieces of the metal shelving you stole from that one FedEX truck?
steel crag
🤣
tidal bronze
Ah ha ha. Nah messing with this japche
forest edge
lol
forest edge
more affordable?
static schooner
hungry?
tidal bronze
forest edge
vvoters bail them out.. wtf you people do? shower them with cash?
tidal bronze
Lol in CA drivers needs to be treated as employees not contractors
forest edge
Lol in CA drivers needs to be treated as employees not contractors
@tidal bronze yea and?
tidal bronze
They got a stay till Nov so will be decided by the people.
Uber was going to shut down completely
steel crag
people are nice, the people are mean
forest edge
I understand why the ride aspect would shut down for a period
but the food delivery part makes no sense. sure when nothing is open etc but as of right now there shouldn't be anything prevventing that
hell they leave the food on the door step and leave here
tidal bronze
They still get a 1099
forest edge
must be missing something you cali's are doing the rest of the country isn't lol
tidal bronze
forest edge
aren't you all suppose to be using droids and drones by now anyway? lol
isnt that burger joint where it's a robot cooking the burgers in cali?
tidal bronze
Amazon finally got faa authorization. Finally @last dirge can get rest of the shelves
forest edge
would hate to see a drone big enough to carry 100lbs fly over my house
tidal bronze
Ouch
forest edge
you don't live on the coast?
and enjoy that costal breeze?
with the smell fo salt and jellyfish poop
tidal bronze
The humidity must be a killer
steel crag
the island I live on
is 21 miles long, 7 miles wide
even in the center you are 3.5 miles from the coast
LOL
wet pilot
It's all coast 😂
steel crag
but trouble with being on the coast is the wind IS HUMID TOO
tidal bronze
Yikes.
steel crag
yeah it gets like this then rains like a monsoon
but these are the "warm waters" that hurricanes think is Viagra
forest edge
tough price to pay to see an endless supply of hot girls in bikini's
steel crag
water temp is nearly 80F rn
steel crag
tough price to pay to see an endless supply of hot girls in bikini's
@forest edge I work in IT, not on the beach
forest edge
sucks to be you lol
wet pilot
Computers don't like sand XD
steel crag
bro
wet pilot
Or the heat
forest edge
never to old
steel crag
it does get boring after you do so many spring breaks
tidal bronze
@forest edge unlike your freezer and gadgets from 1963, people get old you know.
wet pilot
Freezers get old
forest edge
@tidal bronze more like more flavorable
tidal bronze
Not GTS freezer.
wet pilot
Heh
tidal bronze
That shit is forever
wet pilot
Block of ice in a box?
steel crag
you plug that freezer in in this country I give it 6 months
LOL
power here is such a joke
I literally have a UPS on every TV in the house
smartUPS too, not just backUPS
tidal bronze
@steel crag 20000 girls? Perhaps the reason you couldn't figure out CAPS LOCK when going for discord username 🤔
steel crag
@steel crag 20000 girls? Perhaps the reason you couldn't figure out CAPS LOCK when going for discourd username 🤔
I can spell discord tho
tidal bronze
Sure you can
steel crag
😄
forest edge
ups on every tv? why not just daisy chain car batteries and run your whole home lol
get a wind generator and presto
steel crag
ups on every tv? why not just daisy chain car batteries and run your whole home lol
solar is coming
tidal bronze
Chopsticks, Japche, kimchi and discourd you know @steel crag
steel crag
get a wind generator and presto
@forest edge because up until last year it was illegal
that's why
forest edge
weird.. savve the seagull campaigns?
wet pilot
Local power monopoly meddling?
last dirge
JBL/Crown used to run part of their factory off of their amplifiers
steel crag
nah, FU. Pay me.
Local power monopoly meddling?
@wet pilot ding ding ding
you mean the government owned power company that has a monopoly
wet pilot
Yup. Know how that goes...
steel crag
😉
forest edge
Yup. Know how that goes...
@wet pilot you do? lol
steel crag
that is sold bunker C at exaggerated prices by a bunch of....
oh wait no politics
LOL
wet pilot
Power monopolies are crazy
tidal bronze
What's a monopoly?
steel crag
well it gets expensive when you often go to jail but in theory yeah
forest edge
I would say we gotten a little better at that whole monopoly thing but then tmobile bought sprint
wet pilot
Slowly but surely
last dirge
that merger actually happened?
tidal bronze
Living in LA I have no clue what monopoly is. Strange things 🤣
steel crag
now telecomms monopolies I know well
wet pilot
MVNOs are undercutting some but the big 3 are fighting that as hard as they can
tidal bronze
VZW is trying again to get the 700mhz
forest edge
Living in LA I have no clue what monopoly is. Strange things 🤣
@tidal bronze sure you do, it's why every isle at the store has seaweed and not real food
tidal bronze
GTS got no clue living 3768 miles from anything SEA related
steel crag
VZW is trying again to get the 700mhz
@tidal bronze you blame them? I used to work for the company that's trying for it here
forest edge
I went to Galveston once. ran from the fire ants, dodged the seagulls and laughed at house of stilts.. was enough for me
tidal bronze
They lost the initial bid to TMO
steel crag
GTS got no clue living 3768 miles from anything SEA related
I think I'd die not living near the ocean
I went to Galveston once. ran from the fire ants, dodged the seagulls and laughed at house of stilts.. was enough for me
we got mad fire ants here too LOL
tidal bronze
Now they are trying to stop tmo from getting the rest. I guess narrow band 5G is not working well for VZW LMAO
tidal bronze
1.5 gb down and gotta be 400ft from the tower, yeah right .
forest edge
noway tmobile will get verizon lol
verizon is the most bloated carrier with the most craziest customers evver
tidal bronze
Never liked VZW.
steel crag
never say never, again
tidal bronze
When they were CDMA roaming was a joke. Even now its a joke.
steel crag
@tidal bronze let me tell you about the CDMA network we have here
forest edge
and here i am on google fi which use to be sprint, tmobile and us carrier and now it's just basically tmobile lol
steel crag
that locals can't access and only exists for tourists roaming
tidal bronze
Lol
steel crag
you find odd things when you aren't really looking
tidal bronze
I have no idea what they are doing with some old ass tech
steel crag
but when I found that out......
tidal bronze
Never did and never will.
steel crag
LOL
forest edge
CDMA has better blled through ability for one
*bleed
as in kmaking it through thick walls etc
steel crag
steps quietly away, backwards and looking over his shoulder
tidal bronze
ETACS TO GSM or AMPS TO GSM. Anything else is just being too lazy to invest in new infrastructure
steel crag
we went AMPS to GSM
forest edge
well easy to say when your home is made of palm tree leaves
tidal bronze
They dumped so much money on old tech and then screwed the customers over.
steel crag
but they kept the CDMA for the you know 7,000,000 tourists we get a year
to hell with the 450,000 locals
LOL
tidal bronze
Lol
steel crag
well easy to say when your home is made of palm tree leaves
@forest edge have you seen the cat5 storms my palm tree leaf house has been thru?
forest edge
irrelevant
tidal bronze
Remember they were handing GSM loaners to travellers, what an epic fail
steel crag
they leave here and rip thru Florida like it's wet tissue
Remember they were handing GSM loaners to travellers, what an epic fail
@tidal bronze I still remember bag phones
forest edge
lol
tidal bronze
Yep.
forest edge
i think i still have one
steel crag
and motorola ultra classics
tidal bronze
STARTAC
tidal bronze
Lol
forest edge
you wouldn't want to see some of the boxes in my basement lol
steel crag
I had a copy of the motorola bible among other things kids should never read
SonomaGTS I got a 286 knocking about someplace
I'll trade ya
forest edge
I even have one of those old telephones you had to crank and hold the cup thing to your ear that was converted to work like a regular rotary dial lol
steel crag
you wouldn't want to see some of the boxes in my basement lol
sounds strangely like my attic
I even have one of those old telephones you had to crank and hold the cup thing to your ear that was converted to work like a regular rotary dial lol
I have an old UK standard phone that we had since before the landline system changed over to "north american" standards
LOL
forest edge
I tell you, build quality of the older stuff far exceeds anything newer then itself
steel crag
I can remember when this country shared an area code with The Dominican Republic
imagine accidentally dialing another country with the same area code
forest edge
I can remember the movies that showed people escaping here and going to your country to escape authorties because there was no tech there at all
steel crag
sh|t I may have been in one
forest edge
lol
steel crag
there's lots and lot's of tech here now
the defence force has long range fixed wing drones now
which shocked the hell out of me the first time I saw one doing 80+mph in a pursuit
forest edge
@tidal bronze there you go, you can move there when cali decides to fall off into the ocean lol
tidal bronze
@forest edge sorry couldn't hear you clearly 😜
forest edge
I could see how that would make you sick and and understand the hearing impairment lol jk
tidal bronze
Yep Ramen after japche. Guess I was starving.
steel crag
I'm on hunger strike until my son washes the dishes
tidal bronze
Lol
steel crag
I have tried aggressive protests, now I'm going passive
forest edge
look at that fancy square bowl too and fancy chopsticks.. quad has a 5 star restaurant in his own home
hushed basalt
I had friends who lived in a share house
They would just throw the dishes away rather than wash them
steel crag
I have fancy chopsticks, but alas no square bowl
They would just throw the dishes away rather than wash them
@hushed basalt could you find out how I can get my son to go live with them then?
might be easier
hushed basalt
They had a vine growing in the toilet
steel crag
that's right up his alley as it were
hushed basalt
It came in through the window and covered the wall and ceiling
Leaves all faced the light bulb
"Not my job to fix" - everyone in the house
steel crag
yeah they'd still throw my kid out
he literally walks over the dishes I pile infront of his bedroom door
hushed basalt
My wife gets upset when I leave my socks on the floor
You need to put them in his bed
Under the covers
steel crag
my wife is prolly somewhere upset right now prolly that I haven't married her
You need to put them in his bed
I have. he has said he didn't see them
hushed basalt
You may have to resort to public humiliation
steel crag
I took him to get his eyes tested
steel crag
You may have to resort to public humiliation
I threw his dirty laundry that I asked for for 5 days on the front porch
they made it into the washer shortly after, magically
steel crag
oh trust me I know, I was trying not to be ..... you know.... my dad
LOL
my dad would've managed to get 10 girls my age to come over
hushed basalt
If she doesn't want to do something she just doesn't do it
She's not even 2 though
steel crag
well she's not got a criminal record right?
ahhhhhhh ITS RAINING
nothing on the forecast but I knew it was coming
hushed basalt
It has been raining every second day here
steel crag
first time in about a week for us
steel crag
its coming down like hail rn
we have summer and not summer
I'd imagine you have about the same
LOL
steel crag
bush fires are pretty serious
hushed basalt
And we get some high wind storms but that's about it
steel crag
last hail here was 2008
hushed basalt
No major flooding, no earth quakes or cyclones or tornados or volcanos
steel crag
and that was the first time that anyone could remember seeing it on land
oh we flood like a mother
most of the islands here are partially below sea level
see for example
we've already gotten 3 inches of rain
forest edge
@hushed basalt your trade off is swarms of both insects and critters
hushed basalt
Nah not really
hushed basalt
We don't have much in the way of bugs
Bush flies are annoying out of the city
And there's just average garden/park critters
tidal bronze
it's at 74% now
@steel crag 😫
forest edge
maybe not all over but you certianly get swarms of mice/rats and spider
hushed basalt
Ive seen a snake twice in 20 years
tidal bronze
Wowza.
hushed basalt
I'm sure there's 1000x more rats per sqm in new york than here
forest edge
lol maybe
steel crag
some with 2 legs some with 4
tidal bronze
Now the rat problem is 10x with all restaurants closed
forest edge
thankfully we never had that issue here
steel crag
I'm walking here
show us the sensor on your phone to prove it
tidal bronze
Yep it does
steel crag
😉
tidal bronze
Unless you are not walking
steel crag
I mean I'm not gonna ask you to show me something that doesn't exist
Unless you are not walking
@tidal bronze or in a vehicle
then it's "unknown"
LOL
tidal bronze
But I think its the same down under since its manual. Just like walking
true pumice
Hey Guys a short question, works the relay on a wemos when the pins have only 1v?
i use a ltv824 optokoppler to check the signal he can only 1.4V, the wemos gives 3.3 so i step down it to 1V and it should work right?
clever mortar
I'd ask in #diy-archived
true pumice
Oh sorry, havent see it, thanks
clear mirage
So i get home last night and notice my laptop isn't on, and I tried turn it on nothing happend then looked at the power jack and saw this
light trout
You don't want that
clear mirage
I figured. The laptop itself is a Asus G74SX and is about 8 years old. Any idea if its fixable
light trout
Most likely that fired components on the MB, but try asking in #diy-archived
clear mirage
All right i hope not. But ill head over there
last dirge
fire, fire fire
last dirge
lol
dark swallow
I am a renter and my "Programable" thermostat is fine except I can't schedule the furnace fan to run. So I am looking for an inexpensive on that integrates nicely with HA. What do people recommend here?
I also currently don't have zigbee or z-wave but I won't be opposed to starting a network of either devices
clever mortar
See #hardware-archived for device recommendations, but check the #integrations-archived list first 😉
dark swallow
Gotcha!
tepid root
So... 0.115... is it me or the next release taking longer to cook than usual? 🕵️
clever mortar
No
velvet horizonBOT
tepid root
What’s the cycle / sprint length these days?
clever mortar
Mostly every three weeks, except when it's not
0.115 has been delayed to line up with HA's birthday - if you search the channel history you'll find a lot of chat about that
(hence why the release calendar is pinned)
tepid root
Got you 😎 thanks
amber bramble
:rip:
dense jungle
is there an age (how old your supposed to be) for home assistant. at what age will people start to fully understand it
steel crag
depends on your reading level not age
😄
I've been showing my son code, and he's 14 and grasping some of it
clever mortar
And willingness to learn
dense jungle
im 12 lol. I have a full hassio setup
steel crag
my philosophy is I'm dumb, and I do not want to be dumb
clever mortar
There's teenagers here with a better grasp than older folks - age is just a measure of how long you've been alive for
dense jungle
ok I see
clever mortar
I mean, yes, being older has given me more opportunity to learn, but I know many that have squandered that opportunity
dense jungle
i wanna show some of my friends but I wanted a perspective of somebody who didnt have hassio when they were younger
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
Well, Home Assistant didn't exist until a few years ago, so find anybody over the age of ... 5 and you're good 😛
steel crag
@dense jungle I think you should get used to the fact that you're gonna be more advanced than most of your friends
dense jungle
yea... lol
steel crag
but showing them couldn't hurt any
clever mortar
IMO it's always about this is why - though, "because I could" is often valid
I automated my blinds so the sun wakes me up or I automated the lights so I don't have to get up to turn them on/off
steel crag
IMO it's always about this is why - though, "because I could" is often valid
because I could is often my reasoning
dense jungle
what is the most painful project you have done
steel crag
abandoning all my flows in node-red and forcing myself to learn how to do them in automations
I'm still bleeding
deft pewter
my philosophy is I'm dumb, and I do not want to be dumb
I have huge respect for anyone that wants to improve their own knowledge or abilities. I hate seeing people complain about stuff despite taking no steps to improve.
At least you're aware of your own shortcomings. That's the first step.
last dirge
MY ANUS IS BLEEDING
steel crag
MY ANUS IS BLEEDING
sorry my bad
last dirge
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND ALL THAT IS HOLY MY ANUS IS BLEEDING
FedEx: Looks like the USPS is being slow about deliveries. We should provide excellent quality service to prove that it should be privatized
also FedEx:
@tidal bronze called Costco about it yesterday and they're having the company drop ship me another package, lol
tidal bronze
There you go.
static schooner
neither rain, nor sleet, nor snow, will allow us to deliver your package...
tidal bronze
First FedEx delay for me this year, supposed to be tomorrow but now Tuesday lmao. Guess @last dirge FedEx woes rubbed off on me
steel crag
neither rain, nor sleet, nor snow, will allow us to deliver your package...
apparently neither will sunny days, or any days really
called Costco about it yesterday and they're having the company drop ship me another package, lol
at this point I'd be trying to run down any FedEx trucks on the road
shy comet
lol
steel crag
OK I do not want to leave the house again anymore this week
lethal ice
@last dirge ironically, I now have yet another FedEx story to chip in with
last dirge
yay
lethal ice
my sister shipped me some pints of nice artisan ice cream for my birthday that ended up getting delayed twice and delivered 4 days late
mmmmm
lethal ice
Well, ordered from an online ice cream distributor. It's normally fine, they pack it in dry ice.
But when it takes > week to get there, not so much
steel crag
well nothing takes under a week to get here
and in this heat you can't make it home from the food store without ice cream melting before you get home
lethal ice
I imagine if you ordered it FedEx 2-day it would.
steel crag
I don't live in the US
lethal ice
ahh
steel crag
over night things from Amazon get to my freight forwarder
then my FF has to bring them to my country
then they have to clear customs
then I have to pickup from FF
so yeah I wouldn't order anything that's not preserved food LOL
lethal ice
https://shop.jenis.com/pick-your-own-mix/ yeah I guess it's US-only 😛
but delicious!
... when it's not a spoiled melted bucket of glop, anyway
THANKS FEDEX
steel crag
yeah that would still take a week to get to me
but you guys aren't used to this kind of treatment
I've had things take MONTHS
we don't get delivery to home even if you fedex something to me I have to go pick it up
LMFAO
lethal ice
Yeah I mean I can order something from Amazon and have it in an hour
so I can't imagine waiting a week 😛
steel crag
Yeah I mean I can order something from Amazon and have it in an hour
@lethal ice I ordered some plugs 2 weeks ago, half the order made it here already the other half still in FL
lethal ice
I feel bad for your plugs, I wouldn't wish being in FL on anyone
lethal ice
Well, hopefully despite the heat at least your quarantine response has been more decisive than that of your neighbors to the Northwest 😉
but yeah I suppose island living makes you used to delays in shipping
steel crag
have you ever heard of island time?
island time makes you used to delays in EVERYTHING
lethal ice
On the plus side while you're frustrated because your z-wave gear hasn't arrived yet you can just go sit on the beach with a drink instead
steel crag
On the plus side while you're frustrated because your z-wave gear hasn't arrived yet you can just go sit on the beach with a drink instead
@lethal ice our beaches are currently closed due to COVID
so no, I can't
steel crag
oh I have one
just not on this island
and interisland travel is restricted needing a health visa and a negative covid test on departure, 2 week quarantine upon arrival then rinse and repeat when I want to come home
so 4 weeks of more quarantine and two invasive covid tests just to go to the beach?
actually just recently they allow limited beach access.... from 5am to 9am
but I prefer to swim when I can see the sharks
LMFAO
lethal ice
That sounds like a good philosophy to me
midnight adder
I am an idiot... I just deleted my configuration.yaml... i did not backup recently... i used vs code... help me....:(
wet pilot
did you do it from vscode as in right click > delete?
or did you do it from a terminal?
midnight adder
right click delete
wet pilot
ctrl + z
midnight adder
ment to delete another file obviously... 😦
midnight adder
bin.. .where?
ctrl+z did nothing... i tried that right after...
bin.. .where?
ment to delete another file obviously... 😦
midnight adder
sooo where? i was using the webinterface...
wet pilot
oh, then you're probably boned
midnight adder
💩
rigid oriole
Figured this might be a good place to ask since this hobby needs a good network
midnight adder
thank for the answers though...:)
rigid oriole
Any recommendations for a good, stable router that is NOT an amplifi hd? Preferably with a command line interface?
deft pewter
I'm still using cups and string here. Dunno what you mean about good networks.
rigid oriole
Ha yeah that's what I've felt like with previous options
wet pilot
i have an edgerouter 3 that i'm cool with
steel crag
Nighthawk X10 here
Running DD-WRT tho
And I do waaaaay more than the average user
I'm still using cups and string here. Dunno what you mean about good networks.
Even those you manage to tangle up
wet pilot
i stepped up to something more prosumer because i have a gig symmetrical internet connection
rigid oriole
I have heard good things about edgerouters actually, ubiquiti really put me off with previous stuff but I hear their home/business departments are almost like different companies
And I almost bought a nighthawk once
steel crag
The X10 will do 970+mbit
wet pilot
most consumer grade gear can't do 1G duplex
steel crag
Edgerouters are awesome tho
most consumer grade gear can't do 1G duplex
@wet pilot neither can my ISP
wet pilot
lol
steel crag
I'm getting about 220Mbit down and around 25-30Mbit up
wet pilot
i have 2 ISPs though. 1 at "gig" (more like 970 up/down) and one at ~480 down 150 up
steel crag
And I'm faster than 99% of the country
wet pilot
P2P downloads are amazing 😄
was downloading an update to a game and they have P2P enabled. was hitting 105MB down
and my voice chat didn't skip
rigid oriole
With an edgerouter, do you have to handle everything through their app like with an amplifi hd?
wet pilot
they have a GUI but they also have ssh
i don't think there's anything you can do in one that you can't do in the other
rigid oriole
Can't believe I'm almost half considering their stuff again! But with so many people having nothing but praise for their stuff, there must be something to it
wet pilot
the "edge" line is very different from the "unifi" stuff
rigid oriole
I was amazed by all the praise for the unifi line after actually buying one and trying it out. Worst thing I ever bought! Couldn't believe it
Near a full 24 hours of trying it every which way, it got worse and worse until it topped out at 740 KB (with a K) speeds when my ISP router was getting at least 50MB wireless
Asked support for help? They took 2 days to send me a message saying "it's not that much slower" 🤣
last dirge
edgerouter FTW
rigid oriole
Might have to take a good look at them after all
steel crag
my only issue was I didn't want unifi wifi
as I have a POE switch and they don't use standard POE
lethal ice
Only the really old ones had the weird 24v PoE iirc
last dirge
and if your PoE switch isn't a sensing switch, what shitty switch did you buy?
lethal ice
I'm pretty sure from the ac lite and forward, 802.3af and/or 802.3at are supported
My experience with the unifi line has been the polar opposite of shotmaker's; it all worked flawlessly from day 1, speed and coverage
rigid oriole
See, that's what I hear all the time! I honestly don't know what the hell happened, it was baffling
lethal ice
How long ago was it?
rigid oriole
Few months? Amplifi HD Gamer's Edition
lethal ice
OH
so
Amplifi is not Unifi 🙂
Amplifi is UBNT's Eero/Google WiFi consumer mesh solution
I haven't used it but have heard mixed reviews.
rigid oriole
I would see rave reviews everywhere for it, but only noticed how... mixed their reddit was after suffering with the damn thing myself
lethal ice
Pick up a USG or a UDM and some access points and your experience should be much different. 😛
wet pilot
ER + Unifi are good "professional" grade kit.
Amplifi is about on par with general consumer grade stuff
(hesitating to say "garbage" like i wanted because i don't have primary exp)
rigid oriole
No, garbage would be right! Well with one exception
in my personal experience? For free ISP supplied routers, BT home hubs have punched way above their weight! Although I know people have vastly different experiences with those
They can only take you so far though
steel crag
and if your PoE switch isn't a sensing switch, what shitty switch did you buy?
@last dirge Cisco 3960 and Cisco 2960 ....
it's just the lower voltage
lower voltage than standard is not standard
I'm pretty sure from the ac lite and forward, 802.3af and/or 802.3at are supported
well it wasn't when I was shopping
rugged gate
If you're a renter like myself, Amplifi has been excellent with getting proper wifi coverage all over the house without wires. My only options at the time were Amplifi or the Google Wifi mesh system, and having seen some mixed reviews of the latter, the choice was pretty simple
forest edge
That Amplifi is so over priced it's not even funny
I remember when that had hit the shelfs at Micro Center
tidal bronze
When you think about channel allocation by spec wifi only mesh makes little sense unless its for small spaces and low bandwidth operations
green inlet
Asus RT-AC68s x3 with DD-WRT, VLANs and one SSID and an ER FTW
steel crag
well I didn't include all my other AP's 😛
green inlet
And a netgear switch that has an uptime of like 4 years 🤣
steel crag
And a netgear switch that has an uptime of like 4 years 🤣
yeah well here 6 months is like 4 years
LMFAO
weary glacier
I've been super happy with my ubiquit unifi hardware...
green inlet
I exaggerated a bit. I have rebooted it but only because it is easier to reboot the whole switch than mess with the POE settings to power cycle cams
My next adventure is to move my zwave beta RPI to hard drive boot.
tidal bronze
Edgerouter + Unifi here as well with fast roaming. Couldn't be happier.
forest edge
for the love of God why aren't forum post deleted immediately?
rigid oriole
It does seem like most people are all about the edgerouters
green inlet
I was hesitant because of the price. The ER is a beefy little biatch for its price and size
tidal bronze
USG no thank you. 🤣
forest edge
Today's wifi devices are capable of switching to different ssid's seamlessly thus making "mesh" networks unneeded. 3 routers, three ssid's and you are good to go with all the benefits that come from doing it that way
tidal bronze
Here goes the wifi setup with a glow plug
forest edge
don't be jealous
tidal bronze
Never.
rigid oriole
All I know is if meshes tend to perform like the one I tried, then it's a no from me! I'm happy to give the single super beefy router setup a try
forest edge
just because some of us don't rip out our entire homes every 2 years and redo it dosen't mean it's old lol
tidal bronze
Lol.
flat fossil
what is the benefit of edgerouter vs USG?
rigid oriole
I was actually wondering that myself, looking at their lineup
flat fossil
i have the usg pro 4
i was under the impression that it was the better of the two but maybe not?
rigid oriole
Then they've got a dream machine as well
green inlet
Something about the ER offloading that I don’t understand 🤣
tidal bronze
ER pretty straight forward rules and CLI
rigid oriole
Is there much difference between the different edgerouter models?
tidal bronze
Needing controller to mess with the router is hideous
Unless you have a gig internet, no
flat fossil
oh so you dont need the controller with the ER
green inlet
I wish I knew someone good with firewalls that could setup mine. Or at least tell me if it is good or bad
flat fossil
i just run that on my server pc so it hasn't been an issue
flat fossil
gigabit is the shit
rigid oriole
Oh I have nowhere near that! Was considering upgrading to half gig though
flat fossil
best thing that ever happened to me
tidal bronze
@rigid oriole you can do upto 700 on erx
rigid oriole
Perfect, and they aren't expensive either
scenic radish
@green inlet I could take a look at your firewall rules if you want
forest edge
it's no wonder gigabit is the standard now in a world where nothing online requires anywhere near it. by the time your packets jump the hoops and duck under the bars you need the extra bandwidth just to get them both in and out of your homes lol
green inlet
My wife was just telling me how all her coworkers are complaining about zoom drops with gig internet and we are over here with 5 people and 200 down with no problems
@scenic radish , how would you do that?
shy comet
@forest edge requirement no...but is it nice to see 100MB/s downloads? hell yea!!
rigid oriole
And I've never heard a bad thing about their wireless APs, I wonder if one would do 80 square meters
flat fossil
i only really 'need' gigabit for my plex server
i used to have to turn it off if i was gonna play a game
tidal bronze
Its not about speed but more about latency @forest edge
tidal bronze
But it was the truth.
torpid lance
gig is a life changer tbh
forest edge
i dunno about life changer lol
flat fossil
i was born again
torpid lance
well i pay $13USD a month for gig, so its pretty decent
tidal bronze
Faster uber eats. Of course a life changer
rigid oriole
Used to have gig internet until moving, it really was great
forest edge
not when they pull up in a pinto @tidal bronze
tidal bronze
Lmao
flat fossil
i would not even consider moving into a place without gig
torpid lance
^ same here
tidal bronze
Unless it's Santorini
rigid oriole
Where I am now has just had the infrastructure installed
torpid lance
80% of my country is blanketed with fibre - so if you can get fibre you can get gig
rigid oriole
But the gig net provider charge monthly for a static IP when my current ISP gave me one for a tiny one off charge, that's annoying
tidal bronze
ADSL here. Rocks!
forest edge
coax is capable of gigabit
shy comet
gigabit cable out here does 900mb down and 40 up LOL....i have ATT fiber so its 1000 up/down
shy comet
yea it really is
forest edge
gigabit cable out here does 900mb down and 40 up LOL....i have ATT fiber so its 1000 up/down
@shy comet that's cause their infrastructure can't handle more, nothing to do with the lines lol
shy comet
it was also cheaper than spectrum too
flat fossil
im always scared they're gonna introduce a generous data cap
tidal bronze
ATT already comes with a cap
shy comet
i dont think they can change that part of our bill.
forest edge
yea the cap fear is real
shy comet
@tidal bronze not for fiber
forest edge
comcast did that at one point too i thought
shy comet
plans are specifically unlimited ATM
tidal bronze
Did you double check ?@shy comet
flat fossil
not if you have gigabit fiber. IIRC if you got fiber but like 250mb or whatever it was a cap
tidal bronze
There's a cap on att for sure.
shy comet
att mobile y es
flat fossil
not on mine at least
shy comet
but the fiber line is separate
tidal bronze
You gotta double check@shy comet
shy comet
its a new service unlike their tv or anything
@tidal bronze i did i triple checked
its all unlimited
tidal bronze
If the cap is not there there's a provision to implement
shy comet
its not linked to uverse or anything...different product
tidal bronze
Thats just att
tidal bronze
I had it installed at the office about 2 weeks ago and there's a cap. Lol
flat fossil
it may be different in different areas
forest edge
they were the very first big company in the country who essentially invented monopoly
tidal bronze
Yep. I hate them with a passion.
shy comet
tidal bronze
The mobile shit is horrible even more
shy comet
notice how the unlimited line is the only one that does not have a asterisk or anything
flat fossil
shy comet
they cant change it once u sign up at least in cali they cant
tidal bronze
I hope so.
green inlet
@tidal bronze ADSL is over the phone lines?
tidal bronze
Lol. Just messing. @green inlet
tidal bronze
@green inlet too much lime
green inlet
People out here talk about switching to comporium which I think is DSL but they talk about 300 down
tidal bronze
Can't wait to see what 5G has to offer at homes. Waiting for a trial
forest edge
lime and salt? is that sea water canned?
flat fossil
oh i cant even imagine the caps and restrictions on home 5G
green inlet
With with beer and tomato
tidal bronze
Dude you are in love with the sea aren't you ?😜 @forest edge
forest edge
lime and salt drink, what else am i suppose to assume? lmao
green inlet
We need to start a go fund me for Sonoma
flat fossil
my deep packets are gonna be so inspected with 5g
forest edge
barn living would be awesome. think of the extra open space
tidal bronze
Loving 5G on mobile so far. Life changer
forest edge
I didn't think "real" 5g was out yet
flat fossil
you could keep so many goats around. never have to jerk off manually again
forest edge
I thought it was att's branded 4g as 5g lmao
forest edge
oh i see
tidal bronze
5GE means LTE
flat fossil
isnt the real one called millimeter wave or whatever
where you need the router within line of sight
tidal bronze
There's 3 bands. Narrow mid and low. So technically 3 deployments for providers for entire spectrum.
flat fossil
oh ok
forest edge
wait so cali has those little towers on every corner now?
green inlet
T-Mobile beat att to 5G🤔
tidal bronze
Yep. But low band. VZW went with narrow first.
forest edge
ok quad, keep us up to date on headaches and mutations
green inlet
What’s the difference?
flat fossil
hmm i wonder how vzw coverage is for 5g. havent even thought about it being so new
tidal bronze
Low band speeds are not crazy but blanket coverage on 600 ~ 700mhz
So no matter where you go solid 30mb down.
flat fossil
that would be amazing
tidal bronze
Yes it is.
green inlet
Finally, mobile porn
flat fossil
seeing as i'm in a hotel in BFE and feel like its 2003
tidal bronze
I tested vzw too, under the tower 1.6gb down
forest edge
what you doing on a cell that really needs a constant 30mb down?
flat fossil
cant decide which is worse, hotel internet or 1 bar 4g
forest edge
driving and netflix? lol
flat fossil
for sure. i have adaptive cruise control
tidal bronze
Watching kale videos @forest edge
forest edge
somehow one could assume that lol
tidal bronze
1 bar 4g is not bad. Keep moving.
flat fossil
how am i supposed to watch porn holding my phone up to the window
tidal bronze
400 ft from tower
valid halo
You basically need antennas every five feet it seems like fromm videos I've seen
forest edge
5g in general is suppose to be ass with passing through any kind of thick walls lol
valid halo
Fast Speeds Yes but oh man. It's so finicky
Leaf in the way. 4g. Pane of glass in front of your phone. 4G. A person? Oh you bet that's 4G.
flat fossil
damn
valid halo
I don't see the point when it feels so immature and barely usable. From seeing someone testing it out in Chicago a few months back
forest edge
we need to go back to sending smoke signals so we lower our expectations
tidal bronze
@valid halo that's the nature of narrow band 5g. But its initial stages. Once they deploy mid and low should ve great.
@forest edge ah barn life FTW
forest edge
@tidal bronze i dare you to unplug your internet and put your cell in a drawer for a month
valid halo
NEVER
tidal bronze
Now that's a thought.
flat fossil
can he still use a 4g watch
tidal bronze
I was about to say that.
Lol
Usually leave the phone at home when going for walks because of the watch.
forest edge
lol
flat fossil
lol same with golf
valid halo
I'm still rocking a Pebble. No 4G for me. Just my Pebble Time Steel.
forest edge
I wouldn't want to see the streets if a massivve emp hit lol
flat fossil
i could for as long as my battery packs last
forest edge
pocket lighter and a stick
flat fossil
and a volleyball
flat fossil
real talk, im pretty sure tom hanks coulda gotten to wilson in the water
he barely tried
tidal bronze
@shy comet you ready for the weekend?
velvet horizonBOT
valid halo
Good bot
forest edge
forest edge
@tidal bronze here you go, wasn't too long ago you guys kept going on about those chromcast things and wish they still made them. right up your ally https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/444529271806099486/751106822412173515
audiocast or whatever they were called
@steel crag is this off season for tourist for you guys or is it still normally packed with people all outside sweating to death?
tidal bronze
@forest edge chromecast audio. Not for notification
forest edge
sounded to me like that device could do it all @tidal bronze
tidal bronze
I don't want to be notified. TTS long gone.
steel crag
This is controlled over MQTT. You will be able to send it an MQTT message with the URL of the MP3 file and it will play it for it. It is also capable to doing basic TTS and playback RTTL (aka Nokia) ringtone.
forest edge
granted I kind of skimmed the site, but pretty sure it said it could play music and everything lol
steel crag
doesn't really sound viable to stream audio too, but I could be wrong
tidal bronze
The quest is for multi room synced audio with ability to adjust delay.
tidal bronze
Chromecast audio does that with eyes closed. Trouble is finding them on eBay.
steel crag
so I can play with it and get back to you
forest edge
well I thought they were going to end support for those on software side as well
as in remove it
tidal bronze
Oh boy don't ruin my day.
forest edge
pretty sure that was brought up once already lol
tidal bronze
Was just about to slap some steak on the grill.
forest edge
still think that project could do that, just would have to code it diffrently and don't use mqtt
shy comet
think were gonna do california chicken cafe tonight
forest edge
the esp is more than capabale
steel crag
I'm about to make spaghetti if I ever get my dishes washed
he's been at the sink for an hour for like 8 plates and 2 pans
shy comet
niiice!
tidal bronze
What are you getting ?
shy comet
i usually go for 1/2 chicken, side of caesar and the roasted potatoes
steel crag
I could eat a whole one right now
LOL
and a caesar full size salad
and the potatoes
forest edge
i'm sorry but with the 3 ring circus that is our election this year there is no way politics is going to be able to stay out of #the-water-cooler completely lol
shy comet
@tidal bronze found this one poke place off postmates called Poke Rainbow.....you get like 3 meals in one bowl...pretty good food too
shy comet
sherman way and sepulveda
tidal bronze
Yikes. Might be outside PM range. 😫
shy comet
boo
tidal bronze
Will give it a shot.
shy comet
haha ok...i was impressed at how much food you get in one bowl
apparently benihanas is doing tepanyaki delivery to home now?
tidal bronze
Didn't check. I honestly don't like their food.
shy comet
yea ive always been more of a Yamatos guy
its like 1/2 off for lunch same amount of food
shy comet
i have not
forest edge
you guys just can't get away from talking about food lol
steel crag
who said food
