Well... if you don't know how it's supposed to be read... ๐คทโโ๏ธ
#the-water-cooler
deft pewter
west moss
its data from a ble sensor
deft pewter
I know what it is. I don't know what it's supposed to represent.
west moss
mi flora sensor (chineese version so dont work with HA nor esphome)
deft pewter
If it's the data from the sensor, it's unlikely.
west moss
or rather.. when it tries to print chineese characters using another encoding
deft pewter
They're not going to use Chinese characters for readouts of sensors.
west moss
think its a faulty sensor then?
deft pewter
Pretty much the whole world uses decimal for numbers now.
Nope, not faulty... encoded data.
west moss
either way the chineese version dont work with ha nor esphome, so there gotta be somethign different with it atleast
just got no bloody idea how to extract the info :/
deft pewter
You could look at how the existing #integrations-archived do it for the international version.
rigid oriole
Hey I'm looking for a bit of inspiration. Got a bunch of old tech laying around and want to put it to use
Anyone got suggestions for cool projects to put 1) a Pi 3B+, 2) a pi zero W, 3) a surface pro 3 to work? Already got home assistant running elsewhere and don't need any cameras
hushed basalt
In regards to the SP3 I'd consider putting a Linux desktop OS on it and using it as a HA dashboard
It may not be worth it though since you won't have easy access to the sensors like you would with a cheap rooted android tablet
rigid oriole
That's a cool idea, I've already put linux mint on there as well (still overheats like crazy!)
hushed basalt
I have a SP4 core M and I haven't found any real use for it
rigid oriole
The only thing that would have me worry is the battery one day swelling or something since it's a nightmare to remove
hushed basalt
You could use it with HA as a coffee table remote
If your TV and AVR have good integration
rigid oriole
Yeah they're all hooked up
And with the microphone in the surface it might make a good voice assistant
That damn battery though! Damn thing lasts about an hour or two unplugged, such a shame
Just had a thought, with the built in kickstand maybe it would be an idea to turn a surface device into a better echo show kind of thing
hushed basalt
Tbh you'll have an uphill battle
The tooling just isn't there for non android devices
Your "free" redundant tech may cost you order of magnitudes in opportunity costs of time
If it's just a simple website view you'll be in for a fight
rigid oriole
This surface pro was good to me back in the day, now the fan kicks in when I open firefox and that's on linux. I just timed the battery life as well - 32 minutes from 100 to 0!
The thing cost a bomb when I bought it new. Just a shame to see it go to waste
hushed basalt
Yeah I get you
But the value of your ~7 year old convertible laptop might have already been spent
steel crag
a good chunk of that was for software anyway ๐
clever mortar
@midnight adder Best place for help is the installation method channel for your install method
velvet horizonBOT
steel crag
nm I see
west moss
anyone know how to see speaker groups in google home app? i can create them, but i cant see them to edit them or anything
they do show up in ha tho
wierd, how the F am i supposed to edit and or remove them then
velvet horizonBOT
steel crag
#integrations-archived I would imagine but I stand to be corrected
west moss
yea might be the wrong place to ask anyway, i just didnt know where to ask
steel crag
sorry my mind went Google Home integration
clever mortar
Groups show in in the GH app for me
rigid oriole
The tooling just isn't there for non android devices
steel crag
yea might be the wrong place to ask anyway, i just didnt know where to ask
#general-archived usually the best place for "unknown"
rigid oriole
Does that mean that android devices can integrate into home assistant easily with the sensors etc usable?
steel crag
mine does
rigid oriole
Because I just realised I have a couple of old nexus 7s
steel crag
nexus 7's don't have the lux sensor tho ๐
clever mortar
#android-archived would be the place to ask though
rigid oriole
Fair enough. Just trying to think of ways to recycle my old junk. There's so much of it!
steel crag
Fair enough. Just trying to think of ways to recycle my old junk. There's so much of it!
๐ฎ I don't consider my Nexus 7's junk! LOL
rigid oriole
The 2012 one treated me really well
steel crag
I think I have the 2013 one's
rigid oriole
The 2013 one was beautiful but the touchscreen would go crazy on me
rigid oriole
Could probably fix it if I cracked it open and engaged in some google fu
I wonder if I could replace my intercom with one, I hate my intercom
steel crag
the one that's in the boot loop I was running CM on
I wonder if I could replace my intercome with one, I hate my intercom
what do you have now?
rigid oriole
The intercom? I don't even know what it is, some crappy analogue phone handset style one that came with the apartment
rigid oriole
What are ATA and SIP? I'd love to hook it into my home setup, I hate it!
I live on the third floor and can hear it from outside the entire building, it's that loud. Being able to enable a do not disturb would be awesome when I'm working nights and sleeping during the day
steel crag
Analog telephony adapter and session initiation protocol
they are for IP telephony but you can get one for like a couple buck these days
depending on the type of handset you have tho
if it's a ringdown circuit you can still do it
rigid oriole
I might look into that
steel crag
find out the brand name of the intercom, then I can give you some pointers
I've done this before many times, I have it in my house too, I have an analog weatherproof door phone hooked to an ATA that rings on my asterisk phone system (that I run in a VM) which then alerts my cell phone, and all my extensions in the house which are a mix of softphones and Cisco IP phones
rigid oriole
So it's super doable!
Looks like it's an Elvox Art 6200
My first thought was disconnecting the wires that lead to that godawful speaker and connecting them to an esp8266 or something
rigid oriole
Finally sorting the damn thing might be just the project I was looking for. I'd sleep so much better!
last dirge
@steel crag where was it you said you lived?
hollow sky
Good Morning / Afternoon / Evening / Night to everyone ๐ wherever you are! โ๏ธ๐ โ๏ธ
static schooner
Bahamas
last dirge
you got upgraded
static schooner
wider seats, more legroom, free drinks before takeoff
steel crag
@steel crag where was it you said you lived?
@last dirge The Bahamas ๐
congrats on the student becoming the master @static schooner
shy comet
anyone here watching DC Fandome?
shy comet
woohoo new DC animated movie!!
uneven pasture
I've a question that I'm not sure belongs in #developers or #devs_add-ons-archived
I'm not sure if the same people will look at both channels.
Is there a way to ask it in both (without cross posting or other improper behaviour!)?
clever mortar
Well, is it about an add-on?
If so, #devs_add-ons-archived. If not #developers. Don't crosspost though ๐
uneven pasture
Well, is it about an add-on?
@clever mortar It's about a problem I've hit developing an add-on
light trout
Are you sure it's an add-on and not an integration?
velvet horizonBOT
uneven pasture
Then that's about an add-on, surely?
Are you sure it's an add-on and not an integration?
@light trout I have to say, the nomenclature confuses me. It is actually relating to a custom-card I'm writing.
clever mortar
Then that's a Frontend thing
light trout
Oh... ๐ So none of them then
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
#devs_frontend-archived would be where you want to ask
uneven pasture
#devs_frontend-archived would be where you want to ask
@clever mortar thank you!
clever mortar
And the glossary is a good read, along with the dev docs, which would make that a lot clearer ๐
uneven pasture
And the glossary is a good read, along with the dev docs, which would make that a lot clearer ๐
@clever mortar I've bookmarked that and am going to read through it. Thank you.
static schooner
one of these days, the directory where integrations live in HA will be called "integrations" and "custom_components" will be called "custom_integrations"
light trout
That would be a hell of a breaking change
light trout
So around v 1.0๐คฃ
clever mortar
v10.0 you mean ๐
I mean, the docs aren't even consistent about HA vs HAOS vs ...
clever mortar
I'm waiting for Hacktoberfest ๐
light trout
Can we skip it this year? ๐
clever mortar
And even then, my will to update the moving target that is this week's name is low ๐
light trout
Now we actually have an ADR for it, so it should (hopefully) stick around for a while
clever mortar
There is that ๐
forest edge
Ok that integration? Addon? Oh! Frontend convo was a good read lol
forest edge
@light trout the automation section still shows and does nothing for me. think i've updated hacs 2 times since the last time I pointed that out.
light trout
Ok ๐คท
forest edge
well should I be weary of a quirky install or is there just nothing there?
quirky update rather
light trout
Have no clue
forest edge
you have no clue if there any automation additions in the HACS listing at all?
you said last time i mentioned it like it maybe needs time to fetch the listing or something as if there was actual stuff to populate that category so I figured I would mention there was nothing still there after all this time
static schooner
forest edge
and I'm referring to clicking the + button to give you the ability to install something in that category. nothing happen like last time
so it shows something for you
ok that narrows it down to something quirky on my end then
static schooner
I do have python_script: in configuration.yaml and a few scripts in there. I've disabled Appdaemon/Netdaemon in teh HACS settings, so it's just the scripts that show up
forest edge
for me the plus button hasn't worked since it was added to hacs, so i never knew if that was my end or if there just wasn't ever anything to populate that catagory or not
static schooner
I have no custom repos added that relate to those
forest edge
well the fact the plus button does nothing under that category indicates something is off. it should atleast pop up the window like yours does
prob cause i installed HACS back in 102 and rode upgrades since lol
static schooner
do you have python_script: enabled or appdaemon/netdaemon?
forest edge
no
static schooner
then it's probably not going to pull anything up
maybe add python_script: and see if it helps
forest edge
it should pop up something or not show the automation at all
static schooner
could be a bug, but at least do a sanity check to see if something shows up when it should
full cedar
I'm looking for dedicated box for Hassio virtualized. Anyone have any suggestions? I'm looking at referb mini pcs from Dell & HP $150-200 range.
Running DeepStack w/ portainer so I need a little extra power.
wet pilot
That should be plenty
hushed basalt
I have a Dell Optiplex 9020 i7 if that helps
With proxmox, debian, a dozen containers including influxdb and HA
full cedar
Yeah I want a similar setup. I want to play around with docker some.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001162266161.html seems like a good price for amount of threads
R5 2nd gen 4c/8t
@hushed basalt what is your hypervisor, proxmox on debian?
I only have experience with Hyper-v and Vmware player. Was gonna do ubuntu + Vmware player
USB Passthough is a requirement for my Hassio box.
hushed basalt
Native proxmox
Which is debian, but I run debian VMs on proxmox
USB should work too
But if you want to use vmware you could go with that
full cedar
Yeah just wanted a video tut on it and looks really great for what I need for a headless system.
hushed basalt
You need to ssh for 70% of the stuff in reality
full cedar
Yeah I saw usb passthough is a CLI thing, but that's fine. It's not a common usage for me. Just setup once and done.
rare condor
I am genuinely angry at TILE. anyone who is thinking of buying a Tile Bluetooth tracker DON'T!!!
They have a software based battery deactivation. So after exactly one year they stop functioning. I replaced the battery but it deactivates to prevent usage.
static schooner
the new ones have replaceable batteries
I think it's more about replacing an existing one. If you use their "re-tile" program to replace them, never actually "replace", but instead add the new one as a new one
if you replace an existing tile, it does deactivate the old one
midnight adder
@clever mortar Thanks. I meant the Community forum site which the 2FA setup messed up and I've locked myself out. I need a Community forum admin to help me unlock it. I can't really ask for help on the forum itself. ๐
velvet horizonBOT
Tinkerer is away for 3h 59m 17s with a message :point_right: Attempting to set up a recursion loop in reality. If you see this message it's working. ๐
Tinkerer is away! Attempting to set up a recursion loop in reality. If you see this message it's working.
rare condor
@static schooner I have an old one and I replaced the battery with the same CR2016 cell and it worked exsactly for one year, but still after the time has passed on the Tile MATE and old models they stop working based on software.
clever mortar
DM me your email address on the forum @midnight adder and if it matches we'll get 2FA disabled and your account set so that you have to re-confirm it
rigid oriole
What an absolute mess! I've just read about them deactivating tiles by serial number
I can suggest a cheaper tile alternative without that issue but it only works in the home
I set it up after realising 99% of the things I lose, I lose at home
tame gate
Are tiles anything smarter than a BLE beacon?
lethal dust
I was wondering what's the meaning of the ๐ฐ next to my username, and today is my 3rd anniversary since I joined this community ๐ฅณ
clever mortar
Cake day
trail crag
willow coral
Hey guys, let's say I got a 'message of the day' on my MQTT. A basic string. Could I display that as if it was a sensor?
willow coral
So far I have only worked with integers, would it work with a string?
clever mortar
Yes, but #integrations-archived can help further ๐
knotty briar
hey there. it's dean. need some help. 100% noobie!
willow coral
I mean, I'm already far on my way, I was just curious if it was actually possible
knotty briar
I have installed HB on a mac on my network. all good on that front.
but when I launch the Home Assitant app on iOS, I get this: found 0 home assistants on your network
deft pewter
Try the #ios_and_mac-archived channel. Lounge isn't for support.
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
See also the relevant install channel for help
knotty briar
ah. apologies!
velvet horizonBOT
last dirge
@knotty briar how'd you install it?
sounds like a firewall/permissions problem and not a ios problem
clever mortar
Mac... hopefully in a VM
last dirge
ask in the appropriate channel that tinkerer listed above
knotty briar
i shall. (I installed it on a mac using the instructions via the homebridge site. I can access the dashboard from another mac on the same network - just not on iOS.)
thanks guys1
!
night zodiac
These are back in stock https://www.tindie.com/products/electrolama/zzh-cc2652r-multiprotocol-rf-stick/
valid halo
Hi Gang. How are you all doing today?
night zodiac
valid halo
๐
last dirge
zig-a-zig-ah!
steel crag
tired and grumpy
tidal bronze
@dull chasm what are your thoughts on DTSX Vs ATMOS low end ?
rigid oriole
Quick question. Is there anything like an online feed that aggregates all the breaking changes for multiple releases?
Something to quickly check to see if it's safe to update if someone hasn't done so for a while?
clever mortar
No
Doubly so because a breaking change 10 releases ago may be followed by a different one to the same thing
light trout
clever mortar
Yeah, but they're after everything from 0.109 to 0.114 (for example)
light trout
right... could be done, it has the data for it.
The custom integration that uses that site works like that
rigid oriole
@clever mortar I was wondering if something like that already exists, but @light trout that's a great option, thanks!
light trout
maybe one day I get bored I'll add that as well
clever mortar
This is you, I expect you to add a you should read the release notes banner at the top ๐
light trout
You are right.... I should replace that site with a static message saying that really ๐
rigid oriole
I was just going to cobble something together that grabs the breaking changes for personal use if I haven't updated for a few versions, but thinking on that is a comment I've heard a few people make about home assistant - if they haven't updated for a while they can be scared to in case they miss something
light trout
https://github.com/custom-components/breaking_changes There you go @rigid oriole no need to reinvent the wheel
rigid oriole
OK that is exactly what I was after. Many thanks!
dull chasm
@tidal bronze i think x is more defined (tighter) with less rumble tbh
but with only having a 10 and a 12 i thought some of it might have been limitations in freq in my setup ...plus the 12 is prolly 20 years old ....was gonna replace with a 15 but got some stuff i am saving every dime
tidal bronze
@dull chasm that's my finding too. The track itself is 3dB higher on the low end. IMAX enhanced supposed to fix the low end.... Another format, this never ends. ๐
dull chasm
yamaha is adding it?
dull chasm
yea no shit .... maybe we just go pure viynl and tubes ๐คฃ
tidal bronze
Isn't funny doing all this just to get the low end that comes on vinyl by default๐คฃ
dull chasm
exactly why i said that
never felt the need for a sub till i bought my first avr ....when they where seperates bass was always there and even
tidal bronze
I took a shortcut and added transducers. 0 to 30hz just rocks.
dull chasm
couch vibraters LOL
tidal bronze
Yep and rewatching all the atmos/dts titles to feel the crap I've missed. Lol
dull chasm
i may do in a couple years ....first gotta move to property , buy tractor and build barn ...then dedicated media room
tidal bronze
It's worth it. Even for music.
dull chasm
really what music has sub 30 hz
tidal bronze
Once you have them running I will send the curves. ๐
dull chasm
k
steel crag
really what music has sub 30 hz
@dull chasm trap music ๐
dull chasm
wth is that
steel crag
well Drum and Bass does too
older rock such as Lucky Man from ELP had sub 25Hz material
I'm seeing lots of music with sub 30Hz in it ๐
dull chasm
ok
thick dragon
I always had pretty decent fronts with quite high range, so stayed away from subs for years (also living in apartments). Got one now and it's pretty great. Don't have transducers (yet) as the frame of my couch is all metal, and each couch piece is separate/modular, so not a lot of transfer of vibration.
I do need to mount my Atmos speakers as front heights though. Just have them as ceiling reflectors now, so the effect isn't great. Will be especially important once PS5 comes out.
rich kettle
ceiling reflections suck
@thick dragon i wouldn't put much stock in atmos being all that useful for a while
it has such limited movie support i can't see game developers making it a focal point anytime soon
thick dragon
@rich kettle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj6AUuRs1A4
rich kettle
sure, but that's a promo video
thick dragon
You'd be wrong. PS5 and Series X will natively support object-based audio.
rich kettle
okay ๐
thick dragon
From what I understand developers don't need to do anything, because all sound is processed by the PS5 before being sent to the receiver. And all sound is already positional in games.
rich kettle
will the receiver know to send the audio to the atmos speakers since there's no atmos support?
i suppose it should
but we will see
i have strong questions about the tempest engine on speaker setups, i know they care more about headphones than HT setups
i have to imagine it's PCM with some sort of special sauce to try to make it height-based
thick dragon
Yeah, true - not sure if it will actually support Atmos or DTS:X standards. May be shit-outta-luck if it requires a new standard that not many receivers have.
rich kettle
sony has already said it doesn't support DTS:X or Atmos
they refused to pay the licensing
they created their own way of doing it
and lied about atmos's capabilities to the point Dolby had to post a rebuttal and basically call out Sony for getting so many things wrong
thick dragon
Yeah, you're right - looks like it's simply just hardware-based HRTF encoding. So it's not even real positional audio. Apologies! Pretty shitty of them to promise something, then only provide a half-measure.
rich kettle
just didn't want you to get your hopes way up there
tempest engine has some cool ideas in it, and we'll have to see what comes of it, but atmos-like height doesn't seem like it'll be coming
thick dragon
Yep, super shitty. They could do what Microsoft have done and pass the licensing cost on to the individual. If you want Atmos on Xbox One, you pay a Dolby license, then it installs the Atmos audio driver. But I still think that's just Dolby Atmos Headphones - not actual Atmos signal over HDMI.
rich kettle
same with windows, i can install dolby atmos for headphones
rare condor
I ran an experiment today made a PR for work project with additional comment I bet no one read this and made no other changes... it was approved. So I realised I can spam anything and it will be approved lol.
hushed basalt
Ctrl + F "fraud"
no fraud found
Why does my lawn grow so fast
Serves me right for feeding it and improving the soil
It's crazy how much mass it can pull out of the air. Mowing is a PITA.
slate marsh
Sounds like you need a Home Assistant controller mower
forest edge
you should replace it with astroturf
hushed basalt
๐คข
If you don't want a real lawn you should just get mulch/aggregate or something
Something like this looks 1000 times better than green impermeable plastic
Plus it won't turn into a heat island as well
rigid oriole
Been playing around with assistant relay and it really seems to add a lot to a home assistant server
Being able to act like a google assistant for a few seconds on the fly is turning out to be quite handy
forest edge
last dirge
Low-E windows and astroturf do not play well together
wide radish
Hey guys
I was checking my wifi usage and I noticed
Why home assistant app use almost 92gb
last dirge
running in the background, I'd assume
wide radish
I think is streaming the camera feed in the background
last dirge
yeah, it is
wide radish
I'm gonna report this as a bug
last dirge
it's not a bug though
slim mountain
hi guys,
i am running hass on pi3 b+ and now i am getting lags in every command. For example I have automation set that if i switch on fan light all 12 lights turn on and if i turn off fan light all 12 lights in room go off.
at first it was all instantaneous now its laggy. I turn on light using ifan02 remote which the light turns on and after arround 10 -15 sec the lights turn on. same happens when i turn off the fan light it takes 10-15 sec to get it working.
clever mortar
Wrong channel - see the topic ๐
You want one of the installation method channels
velvet horizonBOT
steel crag
Tink I think he needs automation help LOL
velvet horizonBOT
slim mountain
Tink I think he needs automation help LOL
@steel crag no even if i switch on a simple light it takes 3-4 sec to turn it on.
clever mortar
now its laggy
That sounds like you need installation related help
steel crag
oh well either way not in here
slim mountain
yes if i fresh install it goes away
steel crag
so it's something you're doing via automations that's mucking it up
either way to a support channel with ye ๐
clever mortar
slim mountain
it happens after power failure most of the time it wouldnt even start
clever mortar
Please select the appropriate channel and go ask there - remembering to mention the hardware you're using
slim mountain
so mine will be home assitant os ?
steel crag
maybe
slim mountain
the names are very confusing
clever mortar
Well, the bot message tells you how to work it out
steel crag
If you're using HassOS, flashed an image, or booted a VM with an image you're using
deft pewter
That's why they also have descriptions.
steel crag
did you flash an image on your Pi3B+?
slim mountain
yes
clever mortar
Then #330990055533576204 as the bot message told you
slim mountain
image on sd then ran it
steel crag
so you flashed an image....
slim mountain
okey thanks first time here.
steel crag
GTA V here I come
deft pewter
Will you be playing it on PS5 too? ๐
steel crag
nah, I don't have a PS4... my son plays on PS4 but I play on PC
mind you he plays on PC as well now too
weak quail
last dirge
does that actually do anything?
clever mortar
shy comet
lol
clever mortar
Better video and audio quality streams - that's not used
More emoji slots - that aren't used enough to matter anyway
Animated server icon
Custom invite background
Server banner (eventually)
midnight adder
Is hassio taking longer to start since last performance improvements, i have a 10min restart time right now running on VM
clever mortar
Please read the channel topic ๐
midnight adder
Oh you think of that ๐ it was just a general question ๐
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
Well... it loves many people too, but honestly, it prefers the dogs to the humans
(I think that's because it can steal the dog's treats)
midnight adder
Maby you need support then, I love boats more then people. Thinkerer do you ever sleep ๐
clever mortar
Only humans need sleep
midnight adder
You are a bit involved zwave do you think it have a future, i bet the esp wins in the end
clever mortar
You're comparing apples to bricks
midnight adder
do you want to compare wifi and zwave instead?
clever mortar
Z-Wave is a protocol, ESP is hardware
WiFi takes lots of power, Z-Wave doesn't
Or are you a follower of Paul Hibbert and his belief that Zigbee is horribly expensive and doomed to fail because it's "a con"
I've got a bunch of battery powered Z-Wave devices that have multi-year battery life. Good luck with finding that on a WiFi device
tidal bronze
You're comparing apples to bricks
@clever mortar is esp the brick ๐
clever mortar
Or, put it this way. WiFi is like your pickup truck. Nice general purpose vehicle. Zigbee and Z-Wave are the little fuel efficient two seater town cars. They're designed for different things, and good at different things. Assuming one is "better" means you're not paying attention IMO.
tidal bronze
@last dirge you said you got your lump from Costco?
midnight adder
I think zwave is i bit slow, I live in a big house. if there is a upgrade that enable multiple ap and a more stable connection it can win, im a good eunuch believer, is there not a 2 year esp devices out?
midnight adder
i think of the NeoCoolcam devices
clever mortar
I live in a reasonably sized house, Z-Wave isn't slow.
Indeed, slow Z-Wave usually means you screwed it up ๐
tidal bronze
they had Kamado Joe XL on sale 4 bags for $80
@last dirge yikes missed it. Have you tried B&B
last dirge
nope
tidal bronze
ZW is not slow at all if done right.
clever mortar
It is lower bandwidth than Zigbee, so "slower", but the range in the real world is better, and Z-Wave Plus isn't that slow
midnight adder
Yeh i think my network is a bit screwed, im trying with the ozw beta.
tidal bronze
Even ZW legacy for me is instant
last dirge
the only "slow" stuff is voice command
tidal bronze
Lol
clever mortar
I get the occasional slowdown, but things usually fix themselves after a few hours/days
last dirge
but that's because it's going to AWS and coming back inside my network
clever mortar
I'm looking forward to local Google Home control, some year
tidal bronze
For me the action is instant via GH but the voice ACK is way off.
Wish the ACK can't be fully disabled
midnight adder
Its ok here, it forgets my door magnets all the time, and Im to lazy to install it with threads to my ordinary alarm system, its not critical. I have most of my zw controlled by the alarm IR sensors or timers.
tidal bronze
@last dirge for brisket you go with briquettes or lump ?
tidal bronze
Lump is not consistent for me.
Maintaining 240F, 5 to 6 hours.
Going to try roal oak this time
forest edge
@tidal bronze can't you just leave it outside on the lawn? I been reading most of California is 300F+ right now
tidal bronze
Tried that can't maintain the 300F for hours. Waiting for few more forest fires to start up and should be good.
forest edge
why wait, get a magnify glass and go to town
tidal bronze
@forest edge you wanna lend your glasses?
forest edge
don't think my shades will work ๐
coarse spoke
Hi guys, if I wanted to add information on how to use add ons from the Home Assistant store, like the Deconz add-on, where would that be? Here? https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/deconz/
agile sinew
Think its worth keeping MQTT configured once I migrate off my OnePlus 7T to an iPhone? I'm the only one using it.
brisk glen
steel crag
Or are you a follower of Paul Hibbert and his belief that Zigbee is horribly expensive and doomed to fail because it's "a con"
Oooooh the Zigbee
glass sparrow
how to convert a sensor from bytes to tb?
static schooner
divide by 1000000000?
glass sparrow
still new with this I assume I put this in my configuration.yaml?
static schooner
that's the kind of answer you're get from asking for support in #the-water-cooler
you'll be better off in #templates-archived
static schooner
yes, my mistake. still wrong ๐
quiet nest
So im fixing to start my home assistant journey and i was wondering should i dockerize home assistant in unraid or should i VM home assistant?
static schooner
depends on your needs and skill level. VM will give you the whole Supervised experience with addons, snapshots, UI updates, etc., but you can't control the OS and that can limit some of the more esoteric things (IMHO) you can do. A container install gives you much more control, but you lose (or need to manually implement/install) those other features
quiet nest
So OS would give me the more complete setup outta the box?
Im just starting with it and learning.
static schooner
yes. easiest by far would just be a Pi with an SD card flashed with an image, which is well-described here: https://www.home-assistant.io/getting-started/
quiet nest
Nah its gonna be VM since i dont have a pi laying around.
Its gonna be VMed on proxmox
thick dragon
VM is totally fine. Same as Pi, with more control ๐ Definitely prefer full VM for easier snapshots and whatnot.
quiet nest
Ya im excited to finally be able to start playing with hassio
Plan on starting small with a few spare tablets i have and getting some cheap smart lights.
subtle crypt
deft pewter
'auto-generated' ๐คจ
hushed basalt
Random from an array length of 1
low harness
Seems to be gone since a while... https://github.com/moby/moby/blob/master/pkg/namesgenerator/names-generator.go
Check out the code near the bottom of that, btw.
crimson coral
if name == "boring_wozniak" /* Steve Wozniak is not boring */ {
goto begin
}
this is so hilarious
lol
low harness
floral ruin
Has anybody tried a few thermostats and can recommend one (using Apple Home, HASS, Homebridge)?
clever mortar
If you're after ones integrated with HA, try #hardware-archived
random sky
Hey everyone! Been using HA for about 18 months but just joined Discord. Our setup is somewhat atypical in that our home has wheels - itโs an RV! I was a big fan of the feature a while back that allowed the home location to be updated without restarting.
The biggest challenge is that many residential smart devices canโt be easily run on 12V. So far Iโve integrated all the lights, water heater, AC, furnace, weather station (via custom Arduino-based RF bridge), electrical system (via MQTT) and a few others.
Looking to write my first integration in the near future. Just wanted to say hi!
last dirge
that's neat
tight cipher
hi every, could someone point me where i can ask help about updating my Hassio instance? it is stuck on 0.113.3 and doens't recognize there is a new version
It tells it can't fetch versio.hom.....
But when i go into the terminal i can perfectly ping version.hom....
last dirge
tight cipher
@last dirge THX
cedar herald
I gave a talk that was recorded (https://blakeniemyjski.com/blog/building-and-maintaining-a-smart-home-presentation/) earlier this month and finally got the video trimmed and posted some notes. Completely new talk created this month, working on refining it all, including pictures.... Would love any feedback.
forest edge
I take it people kept getting confused about addons and hacs lol
clear mirage
So im in the process of getting a patio installed and ive been looking at outdoor lighting options anyone use these?https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BQ2PJKN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_o0vrFbNBGNRBX
forest edge
@light trout spot on, that automations category no longer shows for me ๐
@clear mirage depends how picky you are about your colors. one thing Magic Home products don't do as well as some other more expensive stuff is provide that vibrant specific color.
clear mirage
I'm not to picky when it comes to that, I've used the magic home stuff before. Now pretty much use WLED for my other leds
forest edge
@tidal bronze damn hippies! https://youtu.be/nqvF_U2jn_0
tight cipher
what to do while waiting on first boot of home assistant rebuild
had a system that thought that version 0.113.3 was never then 0.114.3
so rebuilding the system
tight cipher
i think something didn't whent right
after half an hour waiting webpage is still not up
i'll let it run for the night
lets cross finger that tomorrow morning all is up so i can restart configuration
tidal bronze
@forest edge no blackouts in LA. ๐ Video is not that accurate. ๐
hushed basalt
@cedar herald congrats I also did a talk earlier this month
Mine was in person and no camera though so no recording
dull chasm
@tidal bronze sounded pretty convincing
tidal bronze
Too late to have breakfast now. Its been a long day
dull chasm
never too late for breakfast
tidal bronze
Lol. Been running on coffee and redbull since 4AM.
dull chasm
damn thats no good
tidal bronze
Sadly yes
dull chasm
dont yall eat that leafy super fad thing
tidal bronze
You mean non gmo and gluten free
dull chasm
yea i guess there was prolly some growing by the stop sigms
tidal bronze
@dull chasm did you see the new RX-V 8k?
tidal bronze
I think adventage 8k to follow
dull chasm
yea most likly
forest edge
@forest edge no blackouts in LA. ๐ Video is not that accurate. ๐
@tidal bronze prob cause your gyms are hooked up to the grid so when you weirdos use the pedal exercise machines it feeds right into the grid.
steel crag
hamsters and ain't even know it
for a long time the wikipedia article about our power company had that one of the 3 hamsters died thus causing our power problems
it stayed there for years before anyone took notice
tidal bronze
One of these days you need come out to LA man, living in isolation made you see and think of things that's off the ledge ๐ @forest edge
steel crag
LOL I have LA on my list of places to see
I haven't been west of Chicago tho
๐คทโโ๏ธ
forest edge
speaking of Chicago they are calling it Gotham now.. crazy stuff
steel crag
LOL I thought that was always the unofficial nickname
forest edge
oh maybe. i had never heard it before
vagrant blade
What iOS email app is best? I feel like this group would have throught through options the best.
wild grove
for you led/wled folks - when controlling through home assistant, does the pattern/logic/instructions get pushed to the board and run local? or is it a real time control from home assistant to the controller?
vagrant blade
gets pushed to the board.
it is real time control, though, so I hope I understand your question
wild grove
for something like a marquee on a matrix display. im assuming HA tells the controller "scroll this text" and the controller manages it until a different command from HA comes in
vagrant blade
yea
hushed basalt
You call that a lens
steel crag
someone's compensating
last dirge
I mean, it's for taking pictures of something 250 miles away
hushed basalt
This is a lens
last dirge
that you're traveling past at 17,500 miles an hour
steel crag
I mean, it's for taking pictures of something 250 miles away
@last dirge clearly compensating for lack of funds for a helicopter
last dirge
it's one of a dozen or so cameras on the ISS
steel crag
if you're 250 miles away earth curvature comes into play
oh
well... in that case
I was gonna say what you gonna use it for take pics of the ISS
but its in reverse
LOL
hushed basalt
High density chips don't fare well in cosmic radiation
last dirge
they look like Lenovos
hushed basalt
Lenovos are great
last dirge
they're IN the tin can
not ON the tin can
get a threadripper up there cooled by the vacuum of space
hushed basalt
What's wrong with Lenovos?
last dirge
(it's actually a piss-poor cooling setup)
hushed basalt
Vacuum would make a shitty heatsink since there's no convection
steel crag
I used to work in a retail repair shop
last dirge
it's all passive radiation
hushed basalt
?
last dirge
that's how they transfer heat in space
I read an article about it a while ago and that's apparently one of the hard things about making vehicles for space
hushed basalt
Yeah you've got bugger all ability to radiate heat
It's like putting a heatsink inside a vacuum flask
last dirge
they don't have heaters at all apparently
hushed basalt
Direct sunlight would be a bugger too
last dirge
watching "Year in Space" on Netflix
and they were talking about spacewalks going from +300F during "day" to -300F at "night"
hushed basalt
Yeah I'm pretty sure a big bulk of the space suits is dedicated to thermal regulation
And radiation reflecting space blanket like insulation
hushed basalt
Still crazy that space is easier than the ocean floor
last dirge
vacuum is easier than all of the pressure
hushed basalt
Imagine desiging a suit to walk around on the bottom of the Mariana Trench
last dirge
I think a lot of the sea exploration isn't done because of the extreme lack of light
that makes everything harder
steel crag
Imagine desiging a suit to walk around on the bottom of the Mariana Trench
@hushed basalt at that depth the sub is the suit
lol
steel crag
exactly ๐
hushed basalt
There was a very cruel villian in CWs the Flash who would crush their victims into a cube the size of a softball
Not a great way to go
steel crag
bathyscaphe's are cool tho
forest edge
oh i dunno, the coffin would be super cheap at softball size
wary cargo
can anyone help with this error please Request for https://homegraph.googleapis.com/v1/devices:reportStateAndNotification failed: 403
quartz ether
I used to have two of those little vans they are actually AMAZING
thick dragon
They do that on a lot of sites. FOMO and whatnot.
Imagine most of them (if not all) are fake and not actual orders.
hushed basalt
I hate companies that resort to tricks like that
indigo jay
Hello all ๐ i have some questions. I have Been looking into configure my Home into a smart Home for a while now, the thing its that i know coding but i dont know hardware ๐ my purpose would be get home assistant up and running with a Lovelace as ui, then I also want a plex server running and I have several google homes and smart devices in the house that I also want to connect to the Lovelace/ home assistant. My question itโs what hardware should I go for ?some people says a NUC itโs a good choice etc but what kind
hushed basalt
NUC ๐คข
clever mortar
indigo jay
Well open to any suggestions, gonna run 4K video on the plex so need a little power but donโt need to be overpriced ๐
clever mortar
Plex will be a far bigger impact than HA
Direct play has near zero impact, transcoding 4K has a massive impact
Work out your usage profile, ask the folks in the Plex forum for guidance, and then add a little more on top
indigo jay
Thanks man! Will defently do
alpine spear
Do people usually keep or ditch smartthings hub when starting to use Home Assistant? Iโve been using Alexa, ST, ESP32โs, NodeMCUs, and sensors in my current setup.
clever mortar
"Yes"
alpine spear
And is a Pi 3B+ powerful enough to run HA
clever mortar
Some folks keep them, because they love being tied to the cloud. Many folks ditch the hub when they realise how silly that is ๐
alpine spear
Haha, I just wasnโt sure because I have been using webCore, and just started trying Sharptools for a dashboard on a couple tablets
clever mortar
Personally local > cloud 100% of the time
Things work then when somebody's service goes down, or your internet drops out
alpine spear
Yeah thatโs a big part of why I want to switch
My gf and I broke up, and when she was moving out she took the Xfinity gateway because it was โin her nameโ. And my cameras all went down lol.
I was kinda using them to make sure she didnโt go crazy during the move ๐
clever mortar
MotionEye, or similar, is your friend ๐
alpine spear
Cool thanks. Do you set everything up on its own isolated router
Iโll just start watching videos now, I think itโs time to do it. Thanks for the help!
clever mortar
Nah, but I only use the router for internet - I have other devices doing DHCP etc
Oh, and Wired > WiFi
alpine spear
Iโve got most things wired now, I have a gigabit Xfinity gateway thatโs actually pretty nice, but I have an old router I was thinking about bridging for smart network.
hushed basalt
Do you think 18 month olds can be afraid of the dark
I strongly suspect my daughter is
clever mortar
Yes
My son has been since about a year old, much happier when there's a nightlight on
hushed basalt
They say it doesn't happen until after 2 but I don't believe that
Now I just need to make a night light
alpine spear
She couldโve been startled one night when it was dark, and associates being scared with the dark.
hushed basalt
Maybe
If she's anything like me she's probably just imaging things in the dark
I had a vivid imagination as a kid
ancient gull
hi guys where do i go to talk about help with getting a rest api to work in HA? need to send a url to activate a door lock on a dahua intercom.
clever mortar
#general-archived though personally I'd recommend a webook #automations-archived instead of using the API
Automations means you've got more control and flexibility ๐
ancient gull
Thanks @clever mortar I dont know much about the whole http api thing but i managed to get it to work in a web browser so i know it works.
clever mortar
Ok, it works, but there's no finesse - and if you change things on the HA side you have to update the caller too
With a webhook, no such need
velvet horizonBOT
light trout
Have you seen it? voted? created posts? if not now is your chance!
https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2020/08/18/the-month-of-what-the-heck/
amber shard
Went to swap out an old pi model 2 for a 3 b+ and it's not liking the 2.5amp power supply I'm giving it ๐ It's a canakit power supply and everything, how annoying
dusky plank
power needs doubled from 2b to 3b+, that said it's still unusual for a canakit to not being able to drive it... I heard only good things about canakit so far
steel crag
I'm still on RPi 1B+ and I think I only feed it 1A
but my 1A is also from CanaKit so not all CanaKit PSU's are the same ๐
dusky plank
y u no upgrade?
steel crag
I live in The Bahamas
so ordering anything almost doubles even triples the price sometimes
so for things like a RPi I need to ship to my sister's house in Florida and wait for her to bring over
so for a $35 Pi could cost me $100
with customs duty, shipping etc depending if the seller even ships to Bahamas .... hence why I sometimes send to my sister
but then I have to wait sometimes months for her to make a trip
and I haven't been able to work since march so no money to even order one
hope that clears up why I didn't upgrade yet ๐
dusky plank
fair enough, the bahamas are a valid excuse
steel crag
yeah plus with all the lockdowns etc for a long while shipping companies were not bringing us anything
an entire shipment of medical supplies was made turn around and seized so imagine regular things like a raspberry pi
dusky plank
guess I wouldn't even use HA on the bahamas,
nor would I have a home at all if I'd live there I believe
steel crag
why not? we still have lights you know
LOL
in a place where electricity is so expensive it's EXACTLY where you need to use HA
dusky plank
hammock life
steel crag
bro Mosquito's here have nothing to do with MQTT
and if you hang your hammock under the wrong type tree you could end up with something laid in your skin LMFAO
then there's the centipedes and scorpions
so yeah you'd run inside real real quick
dusky plank
my crush and obviously not me
steel crag
ohhhhh
so you're saying a sandfly trap
sandflies are smaller than the mesh in that screen LOL
you'd wake up covered in them
there's ways to get rid of sandflies tho, easiest way is to burn some coconut husk
light trout
Or stay inside
hardy kindle
๐ฑ Maybe nature doesn't want us there
steel crag
I alluded to this earlier but he insisted ๐
besides sandflies only really attack at night
but the Aedes aegypti likes to bite at dawn and dusk
wild grove
no beta this week since its WTH month?
shy comet
wow longer beta gap, any particular reason?
TBH I wouldve expected to see a longer beta period in place of the gap between betas
light trout
The calender say so
shy comet
ah looks like its to align 0.115 release with the HA birthday...neat
amber bramble
they pushed the release to give me more time to work on the ozw config panel, that's the only reason its longer ๐
has literally nothing to do with HA's birthday ๐คฃ
clever mortar
Shit no, we're not releasing that
amber bramble
haha
wild grove
the o in ozw is outage
alpine drum
Can anyone recommend a good smart powerstrip for UK sockets ?
deft pewter
If you're after one that works with HA, ask over in #hardware-archived
alpine drum
Good shout. I'll ask there
harsh palm
I just spent an entire day redoing my network to properly leverage VLANs. Everything works the same as before, it's probably only marginally more secure (if at all), but I feel accomplished dammit
amber quiver
Thinking of @quaint osprey being in the path of Hurricane Laura. Take care and hope everyone gets through this.
quaint osprey
Luckily I'm not in the direct path. Have a houseful of family that are in the direct path area though. @amber quiver
midnight adder
Do you think that some standard ISP router can handle 20 shelly 1 switches, 15 ESP32 with WLED, 4 sonos speakers and everything else standard like few phones, laptops etc.
deft pewter
40 devices online at the same time? It might struggle.
There's only one way to find out if it works with your router and that's to try it.
clever mortar
Not all ISP routers are created equal, some are good, some are ... not
midnight adder
Yea, still waiting for equipment so i will definitely try ๐
is best practice to assign static IP to everything or?
clever mortar
Static DHCP leases
midnight adder
That is when you reserve MAC and IP for that device on the router, and on device side you leave for automatic DHCP?
last dirge
reserved DHCP addresses
@midnight adder yeah
it makes everything faster
device is dumb and says "gimme an IP" and the DHCP server says "here you go"
midnight adder
So if your DHCP range on router is x.x.x.100 to x.x.x.200, you need to assign IP in that range for devices?
midnight adder
ahhh i see
last dirge
well, providing your router allows it
it's not a technical limitation, it's however your firmware dictates
limber pine
Let's say I have a large family room with several areas (TV watching area, reading corner, board game table, etc) and I want each of these areas to be on their own lighting control. But then a couple years down the road we rearrange the furniture and while the TV area stayed put the reading corner was expanded to a bigger area for a couple of homework desks and the board game table moved to the other side of the room. Is there a way to sort of get individually addressable light fixtures (say recessed lights) to reconfigure light groups and switches? I suspect "smart bulbs" are the answer but curiouos if there is another option I'm missing.
last dirge
if you're going against how stuff is wired, you're stuck with "smart bulbs"
which isn't a great option IMO
limber pine
I could home run every light and every switch to a big junction box where I could rewire things at will...but thats a lot of wire
last dirge
since you're SOL if the infrastructure goes down
I'd absolutely do that
then your switches could be run with low-voltage wiring
midnight adder
@last dirge thanks, i am still waiting for the router so i will try that when i get it, just gathering information in advance
limber pine
then your switches could be run with low-voltage wiring
@last dirge how so?
last dirge
and there would be hardware in y our smart panel to deal with the rest
if you homerun all the lights, why would the switch need line voltage?
limber pine
typically I bring line voltage into the switch's box, hook it to one side of switch then the other side of switch gets the black wire that goes to the light, neutrals get connected together
last dirge
that's typical, right
but you said home run
if you had the loads home run to a load center, you'd typically then use a PLC to handle switching them
which use low-voltage signals
limber pine
by homerun I mean I have a 14/2 cable going betwen each light to a giant junction box....similarly I have 14/2 cable going from each switch to the junction box. All interconnects are made in the junction box
hmmmm....I may be using the wrong definition of homerun ๐
last dirge
if you're going to switch the paradigm, might as well do it the right way
but if you're in the US, that may limit you
as most of the DIN mounted stuff is 220V countries
limber pine
I am in the US
last dirge
also, $$$$
if I ever have a house built everything will be home run
then if I need to move a switch, it's not a big production
or if I want to do something like you're suggesting, no big deal
limber pine
I've never heard of the "DIN rail" stuff. My version was less fancy....I'd have to open the giant junction box and rewire the well labeled light cables from the lights to the well labeled switch cables....lots of wires, lots of wire nuts.
but I'll look at the din rail solution and see if it works (and is in budget)
in reality, knowing my family, we will NEVER rearrange the space...but I fear commitment ๐
last dirge
the DIN rail approach is pretty big everywhere not the US
limber pine
@bitter pawn not interested in my poor-man solution, din rails or something else completely?
bitter pawn
din rails. since its pretty big everywhere not the US. i was trying to make a funny
limber pine
ahhh
bitter pawn
ill go back to my corner now.
limber pine
not your fault...I miss a lot of funnies that go over my head!
light trout
Allready done
vital harness
I am also getting spam from 684138090905862150
maiden ridge
looks like another bot spamming from this discord.
last dirge
yay
maiden ridge
wet pilot
banned
light trout
Gone, gone, gone ๐
wintry eagle
wet pilot
done
light trout
Moderation requirements has been temporarly set higher to battle the current wave of spam
last dirge
๐ ๐
shy comet
lol
deft pewter
You're not banned? ๐ฆ
steel crag
it would appear negative at this time
steel crag
oh boy he we go
clever mortar
steel crag
I'm Bill, Beta Ray Bill ๐
I thought chaos was my job
my bad appears I've been double clocking
shy comet
oh right thor 4 should feature him
next week is gonna be interesting for the movie industry with Mulan being $30
i think Disney is waiting to see how profitable it is to give Black Widow the same treatment
funny thing is people will be more willing to spend it on black widow than mulan i bet
wintry crater
deft pewter
Zero context quotes. I love it.
I hope this Mulan experiment fails completely. I disagree with a subscription service asking you to pay another $30 to watch something.
wild grove
mulan is going to be $30? like to stream at home?
deft pewter
Especially since you'll never own it. Let your sub lapse and it's gone.
Yeah. Disney+ subscribers can't watch it unless they hand over an additional 30 bucks.
wild grove
mono i agree with you, i do not like the move to services like this
its going to kill the second hand market
and probably grow the piracy market
deft pewter
There's also no word on how long it's going to be an exclusive for. You don't know whether you're getting it a month early, or 6, or a year...
So they're also trying to play on people's FOMO.
wild grove
well, disney loooooves the vault to limit supply and increase demand
last dirge
yarr mateys, hop aboard
wild grove
now with no second hand market, its scrooge mcduck money vaults
last dirge
thar be plenty o' ones and zeroes to be plundered
last dirge
don't Blu-rays cost about that much to buy?
deft pewter
Even $30 is a lot for ownership of a movie. They've pitched the price at 'taking a family to the movies' level.
last dirge
I don't buy media, so I don't know
deft pewter
Not sure about US prices but Blurays here are around ยฃ20. Even that feels a lot to me but I'm a Scrooge.
wild grove
taking the family to the movies is more of an experience, paying for first viewing too. thats tough to put an equivalent price on for home
steel crag
blurays here are about $90
deft pewter
When I bought physical media, it was usually 6 months after release for half the price.
last dirge
aren't $30 USD and 20 pounds about the same?
steel crag
close yes
wild grove
ish
deft pewter
Nah... Dollar and GBP are almost at parity lately.
wild grove
90 bahamabucks maybe
deft pewter
Been a long time since 1GBP bought 1.5USD.
steel crag
but my BSD$90 = USD$90
last dirge
that's ~$23
steel crag
we are on par with the american dollar
so you're right paperclip
but it's also $90 US
LOL
deft pewter
90 bucks for a Bluray is nuts.
wild grove
it was more of a joke, bahama bucks is a shaved ice place in texas ๐
steel crag
our money is just as strong as yours
it was more of a joke, bahama bucks is a shaved ice place in texas ๐
@wild grove never been to Texas
deft pewter
I'm surprised you don't have literal piracy to get goods into the country ๐
wild grove
yeah it was obscure. ๐
steel crag
Pirates of the Caribbean was filmed here for more reasons than one
deft pewter
I got that reference.
steel crag
I'm surprised you don't have literal piracy to get goods into the country ๐
@deft pewter we've been running the blockades as it were for hundreds of years
wild grove
content creation and distribution need to be separated.
steel crag
the first deployment of the US marine Corps was to our islands to stop some of it
and still going
last dirge
I heard tales of a certain bay where you could get anything you wanted
last dirge
but now you can find anything you desire on a thoroughfare made from cloth from a spider's ass
steel crag
yes I'm sure that "road" stops here too
on the way to wherever
but now you can find anything you desire on a thoroughfare made from cloth from a spider's ass
@last dirge a worm actually
not a spider
steel crag
๐
last dirge
what's that one plant they prefer?
dusky plank
https://github.com/simoncadman/libvirt-wakeonlan
that is nice
wild grove
oh cool
clever mortar
#hardware-archived ๐
alpine knoll
Thanks!
forest edge
this needs to be pinned lol https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/748249947442380920
clever mortar
Nobody reads the pinned messages
That's why we have a bot command to tell them to do that ๐
forest edge
well I use them to copy and paste from time to time so I guess i'm the nerd that reads them ๐ฆ
but yea bot command would be better lol
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
๐
steel crag
who's going to click that link tho LOL
velvet horizonBOT
steel crag
rickroll?
forest edge
there needs to be a long version of the dont ask and a short version
last dirge
help vampires are kinda like sealioning
green inlet
Lastly, to befuddle the victimโs brain while their soul is being removed through the abdominal cavity by way of a standard-issue Bendy Straw.
I spit my milk out my nose reading that
wintry crater
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wintry crater
blocked in tiktok, oh no
green inlet
If you watch closely, they own a Marlboro Red door mat
wintry crater
run rodney
forest edge
we just can't seem to get our population right in the head lol
weary summit
light trout
granite hare
Are you trying to tell me I didn't win free crypto?!?
light trout
probably not :/
harsh tapir
has anyone encountered any audio problems recently? looks like my supervisor doesn't forward alsa devices so I can't choose them in an addon
forest edge
but what if smart home geeks using home assistant don't have a smart phone to verify? omg they will be lost!
steel crag
but what if smart home geeks using home assistant don't have a smart phone to verify? omg they will be lost!
or maybe some of us geeks live outside the US and weren't sure our international numbers would verify ....
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cuz those geeks are so used to nothing else working internationally without a VPN but kinda hard with a phone number so you know ๐
eager trench
Is today beta day 0.115 ?
steel crag
i know it's 0.114.4 day for sure
wet pilot
Beta is delayed a week for reasons
steel crag
pesky reasons.
rigid oriole
Has anyone had much experience with the android home assistant app and seen whether it has a noticeable drain on the battery?
velvet horizonBOT
steel crag
but no, I haven't noticed it
eager trench
Thanks @wet pilot
amber bramble
successfully opened my garage door by scanning an nfc tag ๐
green inlet
.115 beta September 09
https://developers.home-assistant.io/
eager trench
delayed by 2 weeks actually..
sick python
I bet it was delayed just so they could get a release on the HA Birthday ๐
A thursday release ๐ฎ
last dirge
@amber bramble but can you do it using a phone as a NFC tag?
onyx mesa
I'm goofing big time and google is failing me, where are the attributes stored when edited from within the web UI?
i.e., this:
clever mortar
Well, that's more a #integrations-archived question ๐
onyx mesa
I've been digging in the file system from ftp with no- ah! I'll move there, sorry!
midnight adder
Hello. Can someone help me with the integration of the fritz.box?
clever mortar
Please read the channel names and topics ๐
If you need help with an #integrations-archived then you want the #integrations-archived channel
midnight adder
Sorry.
steel crag
mono isn't a bot?
boreal pewter
I think only annoying like a bot ๐
rigid oriole
A few days ago I asked what the best way to integrate home assistant control into a smartwatch is
boreal pewter
(No front)
rigid oriole
Anyone who tries to do it and is on wear os, the best way forward is definitely with autowear
You can make a remote with buttons that lead to http requests or voice assistants and it's always one tap/button press away, which is exactly what I wanted
steel crag
I have an app on my watch tho
one sec I'll tell you the name
it's called "Home Assistant"
LOL
Tizen tho
clever mortar
https://joaoapps.com/ is well worth a dig through for anybody with Android/Wear
Tasker is the HA equivalent for your phone ๐
rigid oriole
I looked at tizen, but I didn't like the idea of going through menus to get to smarthome functions - plus in these times of austerity, it's a case of making do with what I have to hand! ๐
Tizen watches do look nice though
steel crag
it's a Samsung G3 Frontier the one I have
rigid oriole
I've just gotten started with tasker, but the interface to design any automation is so obtuse
steel crag
really really like it
rigid oriole
However, it does seem powerful
steel crag
but since I redid my HA I can't remember how I typed my token in LOL
and I'm too lazy to type out the entire token
rigid oriole
I was wondering, with tizen watches, is there a way to easily access a home assistant compatible voice assistant?
steel crag
I have Alexa on my watch
rigid oriole
Ah perfect
steel crag
so yeah, I push the button and speak to Alexa
LOL
that app is called "voice in a can"
made by someone over at XDA
was like $1.99 I think
rigid oriole
I know that one! I tried it for wear os when looking for solutions but that version doesn't work
steel crag
well there's been a massive update
the tizen version didn't work very well when I demo'd it
but then I tried it again after I saw from posts saying it'd been updated
and man it works well
rigid oriole
I have a Huawei Watch 2, IMO it's probably the sturdiest most dependable wear os watch out there
Was the update recent? I tried voice in a can the other day
steel crag
I wouldn't buy any Huawei
Was the update recent? I tried voice in a can the other day
@rigid oriole well I think I've had it about a year....
so not so recent
hushed basalt
Are there any smart watches that last 24 hours of real world use
rigid oriole
Currently I'm working with an app called ultimate alexa but it's not quite perfect
steel crag
badtelcotech: mine does
rigid oriole
@hushed basalt with normal use mine lasts about 2 days
steel crag
my battery is on 78% and I have 1d 18h 1m remaining
rigid oriole
But like Krazie242 says, you also need to deal with the Huawei factor
rigid oriole
Yeah I know haha, I just mean when considering one! I was on a Huawei kick before all the... unpleasantness so have a huawei phone and watch
last dirge
but what don't you have?
steel crag
who?
hushed basalt
Ooofph too many choices
For all my hate for Apple you've got to admit they make choosing simple
steel crag
nope
they rope you in
apple watches by far are the ugliest things
and they are apple
so that's 2 strikes already and you ain' even bought it yet
hushed basalt
My wife has apple :'(
steel crag
my condolences
my mom has an ipad and I always tell her when she has problems that my house is built on Android
but I fix it anyway
LOL
rigid oriole
Never really tried Apple, wasn't a huge fan of the lack of freedom back in the day and then just kept going the android route
hushed basalt
If only Android had better accessibility options
Androids and hearing aids are pretty much useless
hushed basalt
His hearing aids would present as media devices, and slam the batteries
steel crag
not all androids are created equal
hushed basalt
Android might have improved in recent years
last dirge
they connect as if they're a bluetooth headset, so it's no different than having a bluetooth device connected
steel crag
my brothers don't even have bluetooth
hushed basalt
You want BLE connection for hearing aids
rigid oriole
The last month or so has had me realise the value of having alternatives to echo/pc mic voice control
That stuff doesn't always work so well when you have family!
steel crag
yeah I'd like to have non-cloud voice
flat fossil
amazon polly is breaking the bank recently charging me like 63 cents a month
rigid oriole
I'd like non cloud voice but the level of voice recognition isn't there yet for me
steel crag
well that 63c transaction is 1c more than I have in the bank
so it'd fail
literally would break it
LOL
rigid oriole
I route the voice commands to home assistant/node red and parse it there rather than specific commands, so local voice control doesn't do very well for things like web searches or picking out games
flat fossil
oh we're talking voice recognition not tts
rigid oriole
Oh tts? The PC does all the speaking to I just got a voice online and was done with it, only to later find out that the voice I went with is kind of used as a meme ๐
flat fossil
a lot my guy
if you live alone and outsource most brain function to home assistant it requires a lot of tts usage
steel crag
I live alone but if my house talked to me that much I'd think it was Hal
flat fossil
the biggest issue is becoming habituated to the voice and ignoring it. so i tried making a convoluted tts switcher to use multiple voices only to discover that the amazon polly integration for some reason doesn't support that
rigid oriole
So what kinds of things do you have your home doing for it to be so active? Always happy to hear new ideas!