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rare condor
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Every blue cable variant failed

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But they are super cheap

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Just something to remember for troublshouting in future

hushed basalt
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I believe the metadata is dutch so the captions aren't autogenerating properly

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@rare condor thanks for the tip. They are super cheap though :'(

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They're like half the price

rare condor
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Yes be warned never bend them

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they are so fragile

junior forge
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@hushed basalt afk for a sec but will check it

hushed basalt
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No probs

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I have a fair bit of experience with delicate cables so I did take a lot of care installing

junior forge
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@hushed basalt Checked, the meta data settings are correct

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set to English (US) and marked as never aired on US television

rare condor
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set to English (US) and marked as never aired on US television
Shame they didn't air it on CNN, SoU is very important news!

molten osprey
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Pardon my ignorance, but how easy is it for me to install Debian onto a Pi? I've installed it on x86 machines and found it painless. But the Pi is perhaps a different animal?

rare condor
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Its dead simple you flash raspbian to an sd card and boot up

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That's it

molten osprey
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Debian, not Raspbian

rare condor
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Raspbian is debian with Raspi specific firmware and tools

molten osprey
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I'm aware of this. However, according to Frenck "It isn’t Debian" ... and as I'm considering the switch for Home Assistant, I'm thinking I take his word for it πŸ˜‰

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Oh I did not know about that site!

rare condor
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Well it isn't Debian, but its based on Debian (now called Raspberry Pi OS)

molten osprey
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I run the supervised HA ... which isnt supported for piOS

rare condor
molten osprey
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Isnt Hassio the image which includes the Home Assistant OS too?

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I'm still confused at the new names, so I might be wrong.

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I want access to the host operating system, which is why I picked 'supervised' over hassio

rare condor
molten osprey
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meh, its all good πŸ™‚

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thanks though πŸ™‚

amber shard
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Such a silly language should never be the default πŸ˜‰

hushed basalt
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Shots fired

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Knowing Google/Youtube it'll be 2035 before they fix it

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Incidentally too, not intentionally

junior forge
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@hushed basalt LOL, well done YouTube... thanks πŸ‘

rare condor
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@hushed basalt I have had that issue since late 2018

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I don't understand Google, they have obvious crippling bugs that seem trivial to fix in the scheme of their Engineering talents and they like nah, shinny toy!

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Its like Google takes the most trivial widespread bugs and marks them wont fix

hushed basalt
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My uneducated guess is that their teams are incentivised for features not support

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More features, new products launched quick = bonuses

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Fixing what you own = no bonus

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@rare condor

rare condor
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Yeah its werid though as some software is well maintained

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Like parts of Android Auto are updated all the time

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Other parts which literally break the use of it for 50% of entire userbase are fixed 3-4monthes later

mint estuary
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ive got a question about floorplan what channel is best to ask it in?

orchid rose
rare condor
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I wanted to install a 2m Pergola in my backyard, but council wants 17,000$ for approval 😦

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I find it weird in Australia its illegal to put up a small structure like that in your backyard :\

craggy rock
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Howzit guys!! Phil here from South Africa!! New to this whole HA thing, but I'm getting there..

rare condor
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Welcome

craggy rock
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Was running a cloud based smart home for the last two years, got my hands on a raspberry pi, home assistant and tasmota two weeks ago, and it changed my life.. wondering why I didn't do this sooner.. lol.

rare condor
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Nice πŸ™‚

craggy rock
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Had to learn a whole lot in a very short space of time..

rare condor
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Yeah its a very big space

craggy rock
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Somebody here wouldn't perhaps have a link on how to overclock a pi through HA? is it even possible?

rare condor
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there's no overclocking the pi through HA. The system uses Ondemand governor setting. best to ask in #330990055533576204

craggy rock
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perfect, thank you.

night zodiac
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I fixed my arduino temp thing, it was just me being silly with state changes

tidal bronze
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Anyone using both Google home mini gen 1 and 2 ?

night zodiac
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I have google home minis and then nest minis

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1 google home mini, a few nest minis

tidal bronze
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Nice. how is audio dynamic range between 1 and 2?

night zodiac
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I think 2 is a bit wider

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1 sounds a bit narrower but it might be the way it is mounted on the wall

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I have that one in the bedroom since we don't really listen to music in there and then the rest of the place has a home group

orchid rose
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Gen 1 sounds surprisingly good, but I have no google devices to compare it to. No bass at all though

night zodiac
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the nest mini isn't a whole lot different

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oddly they switched to barrel plugs instead of usb-c

tidal bronze
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Got Spotify?

night zodiac
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yeah, i don't have any integrations with it at the moment

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with HA

tidal bronze
night zodiac
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I got the impression you were latino and everything you link is japanese

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Idk if that is japanese, lmao

tidal bronze
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Lol

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Not interested in low end response but general body.

night zodiac
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it might have to be tomorrow

tidal bronze
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No hurry

night zodiac
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girlfriend is in the bedroom relaxing

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I got my wyze sensors

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I have 2 extra door sensors and a motion sensor I need to think of uses for

tidal bronze
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@orchid rose they do sound good and agree with bass. Nothing whatsoever. I have paired 12" sub for every 3 or 4 minis. Sounds darn amazing. Wondering whether dynamic range is much better on gen 2 and if it's worth upgrading.

orchid rose
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paired it with chromecast audio or something?

tidal bronze
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Yep.

orchid rose
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that's pretty neat

wintry crater
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you can group chromecast audio devices

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i have 4 minis paired with 2.1 chromecast audio

orchid rose
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I know, I've paird a few. Just never thought of using it with subs

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well I only have one subwoofer so it won't really work for me, but still pretty neat

wintry crater
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might be tricky with a balance tho

orchid rose
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should be doable, but you'll probably miss something in the 100-200Hz range. I don't think the mini goes even that low properly

night zodiac
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somehow I switched a cou0ple of sensors around

tidal bronze
wintry crater
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good fix

night zodiac
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I forgot they made chromecast audios

wintry crater
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i use same way

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chromecast audio is great

orchid rose
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klipsch sub might be a bit overkill to pair with google home, but I'm sure it works πŸ˜„

tidal bronze
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Better than sonos, Bose or any of that stuff.

orchid rose
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not sure why they canceled the audio, or did they?

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it's been great

tidal bronze
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They did but still support with updates.

orchid rose
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Yeah but hard to find one now?

tidal bronze
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I always grab them if I find them under $50. Some are selling at $200

wintry crater
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$200 wth

tidal bronze
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Check ebay

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Lol

orchid rose
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lol, I paid like 20€ for mine a couple of years ago πŸ˜„

tidal bronze
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12 minis and 3 subs, match made in heaven for background music.

night zodiac
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dirt bass

tidal bronze
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Although at 70% or higher, dynamic range just breaks down on gen 1

night zodiac
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A week and a half more of darksky before apple takes it away from me forever 😦

tidal bronze
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Lol. Already switched to weatherbit pretty happy with it.

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Far more accurate than DS for where I live

night zodiac
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I use the website to check the weather and their android app

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I don't care about API stuff, lol

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the android app is going to be missed heavily

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and it worked with my girlfriend's watch very nicely 😦

wintry crater
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πŸ₯Ί but api

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aren't we here for sweet public apis

night zodiac
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API is a bit easier to replace for my usage

tidal bronze
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I need windspeed data the rest don't care about.

night zodiac
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I am sure you log your own wind speed

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probably triple redundant

tidal bronze
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Sadly that's the only thing I don't have, a WX station. Don't want to DIY anymore.

night zodiac
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birthday/christmas present?

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surely someone has a hard time buying presents for you

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my gf hates that I amazon everything with 3 seconds because it makes it hard for presents but she got me a ton of useful things this year, haha

wintry crater
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lucky

tidal bronze
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Wife gave up long time ago.

night zodiac
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she got me a hand warmer which is super nice for me

wintry crater
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my wife gifts me expensive olive oil

night zodiac
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beef jerky, a bunch of mexican candy, lol

wintry crater
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and tabasco sauce

night zodiac
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she got me a 12 year bottle of whiskey too

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and an engraved glass with "BuSheeZy" on it, haha

tidal bronze
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Hey food / cooking gifts are awesome

night zodiac
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oh, she made me eclairs too

wintry crater
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i got a mug with my baby pic on it

night zodiac
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your baby pic or a pic of your baby?

wintry crater
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me as a baby

night zodiac
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that seems odd, lol

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I don't even have pics of me as a kid

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I probably have x-rays at some hospital somewhere from all the bones I broke as a kid

wintry crater
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πŸ˜„

tidal bronze
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Some chocolates for my birthday and I am on top of the world.

night zodiac
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haha, this is the first time out of like 10 years she has gone wild on my bday

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lolllll

wintry crater
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πŸ˜„

tidal bronze
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That's pretty cool.

night zodiac
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why are you kneeling in a puddle of blood?

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jk πŸ˜›

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neat, I was expecting a photo

wintry crater
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yeah, it's a drawing even

tidal bronze
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@night zodiac let me know your thoughts when you get a chance to test it. Breakfast over. Back to work.

night zodiac
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yeah, I am not going to bother her today. if she steps out, I'll try to remember to blast billy jean

wintry crater
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i blasted billy jean, didn't regret

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πŸ˜„

quasi vale
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where is the best place to ask a regex question?

young sigil
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Stack exchange. πŸ˜„

quasi vale
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it's for the imap_email_content

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trying to remove new lines that are appearing in my output

night zodiac
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I have definitely copy/pasted some regex off of stackexchange for that 50 times

quasi vale
night zodiac
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regex is weird. 'different depending on what is interpreting

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/\n/g

quasi vale
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Hello, {{user}}

{{ state_attr('sensor.xxxx_email', 'body') |regex_replace(find='=', replace='', ignorecase=False)}}

night zodiac
quasi vale
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ok

turbid stirrup
night zodiac
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I think he left immediately after I answered him, lol

turbid stirrup
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Engage house in tank mode?

night zodiac
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Haha, I turned off my pc.

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Tiny house.

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Nowhere to go

turbid stirrup
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Sounds like a viable home automation... If tornado alarm, close windows, shut the metal covers over them, close the doors, etc

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Stay safe Bush

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I like how those trash containers are just chilling by the road... "Today we are going to take flying lessons, and divebomb our owners' homes!"

night zodiac
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I think we're good

orchid rose
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@wintry crater looks like straight from The Shining. Or is it just me? πŸ‘€

hushed basalt
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What tv shows have people been watching lately

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I think we've burnt netflix out

orchid rose
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What stuff do you enjoy?

night zodiac
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haha, @turbid stirrup I moved my trash containers before the storm

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those are neighbors

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I just wired together some dumb shit for a 7 segment display

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of course you can't see the 7 segment in that pic

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but you can see the stuff needed for it

hushed basalt
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We just finished snowpiercer

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I've watched ozarks, narcos, avatar TLA, lol

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Lots of different stuff

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Hopefully this spot works well,

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Hate having unnecessary things on the desk

green inlet
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@hushed basalt , Kingdom.

hushed basalt
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The korean one?

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We finished Dark too that was good

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Freud was so so

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I think Netflix is winning television atm though. Funny how so many people thought Disney+ would be the end of them

tough igloo
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Warrior Nun was ok. Cursed isn’t too bad. Did you watch the Old Guard?

green inlet
orchid rose
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Badtelcotech, if you don't mind a bit older...
Better Call Saul
Black Mirror
Boardwalk Empire
Breaking Bad
Deadwood
Fargo
Homeland
Mad Men
Mindhunter
Mr Robot
Narcos (including Mexico)
Parks&Rec
The Crown
The Deuce

granite hare
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Made it 30 minutes into Warrior Nun. Couldn't do it...

fickle dune
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+1 for Old Guard, it's basically Warrior Nun in 2 hours with a better cast and plot.

terse stag
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after importing all my remotes into home assistant, it's definitely time to binge watch

silver skiff
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what would you guys say is the lowest-power sbc that could still technically run hassos (i.e nothing more complicated than a couple sensors or something)

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pi zero w?

turbid stirrup
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Zero w is out of production... Was looking to run a LAMP stack on one as extra layer between Hass and the internet, handling the port forwarding

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& locked the hell down

lunar sundial
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@turbid stirrup tried traefik for that?

hushed basalt
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@turbid stirrup I wouldn't recommend doing something like that

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You'll make things a lot more fragile, a lot less performant, a lot more complicated and therefore more likely in the real world to be compromised

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I'd use traefik or nginx on your server as a reverse proxy, then use a firewall like opnsense or something to handle security/intrusion detection

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I need to watch Old Guard,

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Warrior Nun looked awful

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So does Cursed or whatever that king arthur/merlin one is called

slender aspen
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Idk if I’m allowed to post deals, but seems like a good deal.

hushed basalt
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Umbrella academy season 2 comes out end of this month

trail crag
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Looking forward to The Boys S02 in September

wintry crater
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slender aspen
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Doom Patrol in HBO Max is pretty good.

hushed mist
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Oh boy am I fired up

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Does anyone have the unifi ap pro?

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How in the world are you supposed to disconnect it from the wall mount??? What was this company thinking?!?!?

hushed basalt
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Small screwdriver or cable tie

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into the hole

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Then twist and it'll come off

hushed mist
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but like, why wouldn't they include a tool for that??

amber shard
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Things needing a pin or some such is pretty common in the IT space? Like a reset hole or some such

hushed mist
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Oooh maybe a lock pick would work

torpid quest
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This is why I keep a paperclip in my pocket always

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comes in handy way more often than you'd think

amber shard
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I've never played with the ap pro in particular, just a few ac lites, but perhaps a sim eject tool? Not sure how long you need

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Oh, I see, yeah, a small flathead is probably your best bet there

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Getting there.. not sure where I'm going yet, but

midnight adder
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Zero W is not out of production...

brazen fable
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I just frankenstieined a new pc for my lady out of spare parts. Lmaoo

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Only thing new was the case

brazen fable
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Anyone got an automatic pet feeder that doesn't rely on internet connectivity?

rare condor
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A responsible human?

wintry crater
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human relies on internet a lot

hushed basalt
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Decided to dump mergerfs and just go full zfs for my file server

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Hard drives are cheaper than the hassle of maintaining zfs, mergerfs and snapraid

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I have 14TB of usable atm, and if I buy another pair of 8TBs I can make that ~21TB which is more than I'd ever need in the foreseeable future

rare condor
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NICE!

hushed basalt
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Are you running raidz2 @rare condor

rare condor
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Raidz1 living on the edge πŸ˜›

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Has anyone got to that stage where you don't respond to a message, but so much time passes its rude to respond. I'm really bad at procrastinating on this.

forest edge
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i was doing some raidz but not these kind of raidz

rare condor
hushed basalt
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I've decided to go striped mirror

forest edge
hushed basalt
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For flexibility and rapid fast resilvering

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So I have 2 x 2 x 4TB and 1 x 2 x 8TB.

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mirror-1
  4TB
  4TB
mirror-2
  4TB
  4TB
mirror-3
  8TB
  8TB
forest edge
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may i ask what you have that is so invaluable to lose?

wintry crater
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porn obviously

forest edge
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obviously

wintry crater
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I just use restic to backup to many different locations the most important data

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Having it all in one basket is not nice

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Even if 10 mirrored raid

honest geode
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For our backup at work I've used two RAID 6 in different location on different electrical grids

hushed basalt
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Only about 15% of the pool is important

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The rest is transient linuxisos etc

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Raids aren't just about resiliency though, it's also about availability

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As well as making a painful manual recovery process less likely

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Recovery is a pain. You don't want to do it unless you have no choice

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That goes quadruple for online backups

rare condor
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I like your setup. I was going to add another 8tb drive eventually and use that in a mirrored vdev

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I started to move a lot of my Google Drive stuff i.e. work stuff onto ZFS after 4 years of success. So now its become essential it works

hushed basalt
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My array is storage for all my kubernetes and docker services

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Almost everything shuts down without data

forest edge
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I have a network drive that has some media on it, few pictures etc but nothing on it is irreplaceable or isn't already stored on a cd somewhere

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when i was younger I always thought I needed to keep a bunch of crap but as I got older I realized.. it was just crap lol

hushed basalt
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I'm not even a padawan level datahoarder

celest thorn
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Hello there, i'm new with home assistant and i've zero knowledge about coding =.= . I followed the instruction on the main page and installed HA in a raspberry pi3 b+. Used samba share to access to the config folder and configuration.yaml file. Everything seem to be okay until i had to deal with some problems about components and intergrations . Looking over community (github etc...) to found out that i've to change somethings with components folders. However, i just be able to access these folder (picture below) while they are talking about some folder relate to the log file like "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/". Is there any specific document or instruction about getting access to these folder? Or i have to learn a little bit about coding to continue with HA?

amber bramble
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What kind of problems are you having with components? I wouldn't recommend messing around with the python code for components if you don't know anything about coding...

celest thorn
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eh i have 2 problems with connecting broadlink_mp1 and xiaomi gateway to HA. They have instruction on github about coping some files to those components folders. Because my config folder doesn't have that so i created manually and nothing changed so i think the problem should be on those folders :(. For more information, i'm trying to fix this one 😦 https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/37306

GitHub

The problem Recent update to 0.112 introduced an error when setting up multiple Xiaomi Aqara Gateways. This was doable through the configuration.yaml file in 0.111.4. The error comes when trying to...

heavy plinth
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hi, @celest thorn I am very new too but just had to do this for tuya_custom.

You need to create a folder called custom_components in the config folder that holds your configuration.yaml file and inside that you drop the github folder and yes you use samba to get to your config files which you seem to have done

celest thorn
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yep and the prob is i already done that but nothing change 😦

cosmic steeple
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Hi, I'm trying to make a climate toggle switch and I'm tring to make a template switch. This is where I am at:

  • platform: template
    switches:
    aerconditionat_on_off:
    value_template: "{{ is_state('climate.mideaac', 'off') }}"
    turn_on:
    - service: climate.turn_on
    entity_id: climate.mideaac
    turn_off:
    - service: climate.turn_off
    entity_id: climate.mideaac
    The thing is that when I turn it on, after 3 seconds it goes back to off
heavy plinth
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@celest thorn Did you update the configuration.yaml file afterwards?

hushed basalt
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@rare condor do you think using 24v DC window and curtain motors from china is a good way around compliance

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So 24vdc motors with australian power supplies

celest thorn
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Do u mean the old code for xiaomi gateway? yep i tried everything, updated the file with the old code, valid result when checking on HA. But nothing change after restarting. My recent process: Installing the "gateway" with code in yaml file (didn't work) - searching online and found out new version no longer support adding with code - delete the code and install through integrations discovered on HA ( 3 days ago and it worked like a charm) - suddenly when unavailable this morning, trying to restart both the pi and the gateway (didn't work) - Reinstall the device on mi home app and delete all the entities on HA - installed integration on HA again and got this error - spending few hours searching solution online then came here with desperation 😦

rare condor
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@hushed basalt sort of, they wouldn't have RCM approval buts it's exactly what I did

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24v kit is super easy to work with as it's standard

heavy plinth
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@celest thorn sorry I am in the same boat close to ten hours just to get everything set up and just keep hitting roadblock after roadblock

hushed basalt
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RCM?

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Does a device need RCM if it's just 24v

celest thorn
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@heavy plinth yeah playing with this field is horrible when something went wrong =.= . i start to think about signing some basic (and advance if needed) coding courses to understand what the f**k is going on here

heavy plinth
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@celest thorn I feeling you. Every help thread or comment just confuses me more lol

limpid wind
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wish the hue hub was local pushing

junior forge
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Congratulations @light trout πŸŽ‰

light trout
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Thanks! πŸŽ‰ πŸ˜„

shy comet
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πŸŽ‰ congrats!!

granite hare
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Things just got interesting...

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We'll finally have someone on the inside to expose all the nasty corruption inside big Nabu that I've been hearing about πŸ‘€ πŸ•΅οΈ

shy comet
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lol

tidal bronze
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@shy comet did you finish your project with ledfx?

shy comet
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@tidal bronze nope havnet had a chance

tidal bronze
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Lol.

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Done with the hardware but still looking for seamless integration with HA.

wintry crater
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oops

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accidentally upgraded to 113

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usually i wait for a service pack

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πŸ˜„

shy comet
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lol

granite hare
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a service pack? do you mean a point release?

night zodiac
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he meant the DLC

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EA Games

wintry crater
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πŸ˜„

granite hare
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EA Games...gross

wintry crater
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113.1 "fixed critical data loss" something like that

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πŸ˜„

shy comet
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lol so far theres a fix for discord notifications

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they changed their api over night apparently

wintry crater
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yeah

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i just googled "deny_new"

shy comet
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lol

wintry crater
shy comet
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i jjust applied the fix manually for now...i normally update on fridays depending on whats pending for the next point release lol

night zodiac
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@tidal bronze you want the nests

shy comet
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@night zodiac hows the switch?

night zodiac
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She has played it every day. I ordered a Lite so maybe I can get more zelda time in.

shy comet
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hahah

night zodiac
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I haven't played in a couple of days

shy comet
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im really impressed with it

tidal bronze
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@night zodiac so nest better?

shy comet
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i didnt think i would like it as much as i do

night zodiac
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yeah, enough to where I'd buy them if you are worried about audio

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I think it keeps up better in the higher volumes

wintry crater
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restart Start a new run, after stopping the previous run.
very useful now for "snooze" type actionable notifications

tidal bronze
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Thank you for the feedback. Will convert them @night zodiac

night zodiac
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maybe try 1 at first to see if you agree, haha

tidal bronze
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Good point πŸ™‚ Getting a sweet deal through a distributor so not too worried πŸ˜‰

shy comet
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hmm switch lite is interesting but not sure if its worth it.....you can only do handheld....for $100 more you get normal siwtch which can go on the tv...it alos comes with the dock...the dock itself is $100 if you were to buy it outright so you actually save money with the normal console

night zodiac
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yeah, it is for her

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we only have/use one tv

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it's just for her to use in bed while I am using the main one

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switch lite was only $200ish

shy comet
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ah that makes sense

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we got 5 tvs here so plenty of space to play lol

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my wifes addicted to lego harry potter right now lol

tidal bronze
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@shy comet I thought I was bad, 5 TV's πŸ™‚

night zodiac
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We have another one being unused. I should probably throw it away

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old-ass 720p tv

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I ordered a phone stand last night, lol. we use my phone to watch shows while eating at the table

shy comet
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@tidal bronze well 6 lol....2 outside but they mirror each other normally....1 in den, 1 in kitchen, 1 in bedroom and 1 in my sons room

wintry crater
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changing ugly if else templates to a new fancy choose

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so fun

tidal bronze
#

Nice.

shy comet
#

yea im not sure im gonna change my automations just yet

tidal bronze
#

Debating between a Samsung Terrace and Sunbrite.

shy comet
#

ill need to see how they run in the new default and adjust from there

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oh dude we just put up a normal 1080p 32" out there

wintry crater
#

i have some legacy templates that i wont touch cause i really forgot what they do

shy comet
#

got a amazon outdoor cover thats been doing great for them

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IR does not like sunlight though πŸ˜›

tidal bronze
#

I have a rear projection for outdoor. Time to say bye to projection era.

shy comet
#

oh wow

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i kinda want a projector for outside lol

#

my neighbors got a sound system out there so we have a lil competition lol

#

it wasnt until we put up our TVs did they set their shit up lol

tidal bronze
#

Outstanding. I love those battles

shy comet
#

yea lol

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i was like damn they got a sub outside? fuck i need to step it up

tidal bronze
#

Fortunately I win all the time and now we are buddies. If I am playing everyone waits.

#

Last thing they want is to get me started.

#

Burial sub dude. Rock that place!

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How LOW do you want to go ? @shy comet πŸ™‚

shy comet
#

hahaha

tidal bronze
#

12" burial is all out but 10" would do as well.

bitter pawn
#

"Keeping up with the jones'" battle. 1 sign you are definitely at Dad age

#

before you know it, it will be the same with christmas decor and lawn health

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then the next milestone will be the "GET OFF MY LAWN YOU KIDS!"

turbid stirrup
#

Much love for the automations/scripts enhancements!

night zodiac
#

I think I improved my wyze range

dusky plank
#

πŸ₯° someone checked the contents on damages I believe firmly

night zodiac
#

haha, I found the one they opened, the are just sensors

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they

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What a waste of plastic. They all have hard plastic shells inside of these clsmshells

midnight adder
#

what sensors are they? they look like usb sticks

granite hare
#

that's a lot of plant sensors...

night zodiac
#

yeah, syncing them doesn't sound fun at all

#

ras, mi flora

granite hare
#

i never had great luck with those. dropped a lot and their readings didn't really help me much keeping things alive πŸ™‚

night zodiac
#

cheap and probably unreliable sensors I got for fun

shy comet
#

i still need to see about adding plantlink to ZHA....no idea where to start on that lol

night zodiac
#

our plants will be alive with or without them, haha

granite hare
#

well the problem was that I trusted the sensor

#

so watered them too much in the end

#

πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

wintry crater
#

everything for weed

night zodiac
#

these are non-smokable plants

#

well you CAN

junior forge
#

Time for some company to make Zigbee versions of those

night zodiac
#

Snake Plant successfully added.

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17 more plants to go

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I'll do this later

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well let me see what one looks like in a glance view real quickly

shy comet
#

@junior forge plantlink did but no longer sell them

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they take the very rare AAAA battery

night zodiac
#

lol, of course it isn't working. fun

brazen fable
#

Does anyone use a bunch of camera feeds in HA?

shy comet
#

define a bunch

brazen fable
#

idk like 12

shy comet
#

yea im somewhere around that number LOL

brazen fable
#

I've been trying to add some but once i pass 8 or so HA just bogs down and crashes hard

midnight adder
#

why do they use AAAA, it's so rare but 1.5V

tacit tapir
#

Maybe a dumb question but why do updates made to the HA ios app get posted in announcements and android doesn't?

brazen fable
#

idk if i'm doing something wrong or what.

#

machines got plenty of resources so it shouldn't be that. I'm kind of scratching my head atm

tidal bronze
#

How are you adding them?

brazen fable
#

picture entity

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and manually adding hte streams in config yaml

tidal bronze
#

main or substream?

brazen fable
#

main

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and it's pulling the feeds from blue iris

#

however if I use a blue iris group and throw it in an iframe it works perfectly fine

#

maybe it can't handle that many individual streams? idk...

#

because i noticed my network usage jumps off the charts too

#

i have a 10gig network so it's undercapacity but it jumps pretty high

shy comet
#

oh your using picture entity wth live stream?

tidal bronze
#

I think I am around 14 sub streams (ffmpeg) , direct from camera an 16 local file cameras on the camera tab. Takes a bit to render the page but works fine

shy comet
#

yea im around that too but i personally dont navigate to that tab as much

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i rely on my automatoins to tell me when a camera needs attention

tidal bronze
#

Same here lol. Just to test stuff

shy comet
#

like if they detect a person

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yea

night zodiac
#

what if it detects aliens

brazen fable
#

@shy comet yeah

shy comet
#

lol if it doenst look like a person i may never know @night zodiac 😦

tidal bronze
#

with person/dog detection you only need telegram .

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@brazen fable try low-res sub streams

shy comet
#

man my cats still get detected as people lol

brazen fable
#

I think i'll just switch to an iframe. It works fine

tidal bronze
#

Did you go frigate @shy comet

brazen fable
#

And that way it's only pulling one stream I suppose

shy comet
#

i did not stll rocking tensorflow

tidal bronze
#

Chicken

shy comet
#

lol

tidal bronze
#

@brazen fable try the 640x480 sub streams direct from camera

shy comet
#

i saw HA may be updating to tensorflow 2

tidal bronze
#

Can't go back from real time person detection

brazen fable
#

can't really pull direct from camera

#

I have them all on their own vlan

#

blue iris machine is the only thing that crosses vlans

tidal bronze
#

Add Rule to HA

#

@shy comet shit's next level when person detection is as fast as z-wave motion sensors

brazen fable
#

Thank goodness for raw config editor

#

i couldn't even get the GUI on that card to load to remove the entities

#

yeah maybe i was just asking for too much from HA/BI perhaps. oh well

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Thanks anyway this group is probably the most helpful group out there when it comes to projects

#

In other news I was finally able to cull all but one of my old SSIDs. You never really realize how much shit you have connected to wifi until you have to switch them all lmao

night zodiac
#

which is why I have had the same wifi password for the last 2/3 routers

#

lol, it looks like my rack is too far from my plants. I will have to make some things to transmit

flat fossil
#

omfg CHOOSER. just read the .113 release notes. i am in heaven

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best day ever

brazen fable
#

My SSID and password were VERY old. The overhaul was waaay over due with how much more important stuff that needs protecting

tidal bronze
#

@brazen fable if you have a rule for BI I don't think it's a crime to add a one way rule to cam vlan. πŸ˜†

brazen fable
#

and the SSID name I picked 15 years ago lmao

midnight adder
#

hope it wasn't something too silly to scare your neighbors

brazen fable
#

It was the classic FBI VAN

night zodiac
#

I have a nerd with that near me

brazen fable
#

When I was doing the transition I have something like 14 SSIDs broadcasting just from my house

#

I found it rather amusing

night zodiac
#

holy fek

#

I just have 2

#

no quests allowed

#

guests*

brazen fable
#

Final count will be 5 once I clear out the last one

night zodiac
#

I keep pretty much everything on 2.4 except pc/phones

brazen fable
#

1 - High Speed stuff with Wifi AX and all the goodies turned on. 5ghz only.
2- General use, no Wifi AX because lots of devices don't play nice with it, but on the same subnet as #1
3- Security VLAN - No internet access ever.
4- Guest Network with gag portal
5- Untrusted devices that occasionally need internet access, usually keep internet off but if I'm away for a while I'll flip it on to use those devices away from the house

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@night zodiac UDM Pro?

night zodiac
#

no

#

edge router + lite AP

brazen fable
#

ah

night zodiac
midnight adder
#

everything 2.4 here, everything important with cable. never found any benefit of 5, although I live in a city and apartment block

night zodiac
#

my apartment is small so I can get away with 5 without worrying about drop connections

#

but I'd probably just add AP's if I dropped

#

2.4 for slower but distance, 5 for faster but less distance

midnight adder
#

you measured? how much was the benefit? I tried and didn't see a benefit, I have concrete/masonry walls and in theory the 2.4 should be saturated because of big apartment block

night zodiac
#

I mean it really doesn't benefit me at all because I don't use that much BW

#

I just set stuff like that because I know that is what is supposed to be true

#

2.4 should go through your walls better

#

"through"

brazen fable
#

I'm currently running the UDM pro but I'm thinking of building a mega PFSense box that can route massive amounts of data

#

I just run a few AP's and I never have issues with 5ghz

#

The speed is great

night zodiac
#

the only thing I plan on doing is getting an ER-4 and a 24 port lite switch and using SFP for them

brazen fable
#

I can't wait for 6ghz to hit consumer devices. I'll throw an AP in every room

night zodiac
#

I am out of ports and would rather have SFP for the connection for now reason

midnight adder
#

depends what are your walls made of : )

night zodiac
#

I have concrete/masonry walls
@midnight adder

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fuck

#

I didn't mean to poing you

#

poing

#

hell yeah

brazen fable
#

I just put a switch in every room that has more than a couple devices with SFP+ uplink to the main switch

midnight adder
#

I have notifications turned off just like everything else in my life, eh, no worries

brazen fable
#

I'll never run out of ports TBH

night zodiac
#

I have everything hard wired that I can

brazen fable
#

If I added all my RJ45 ports together I think I have something like 200

#

not all used ofc, but 200 total

night zodiac
brazen fable
#

and my server/main desktop both use SFP+

night zodiac
#

lol

brazen fable
#

Shuffling around big files is a lot easier when you have bandwidth lmao

#

I can use the drives on my server like they're local

#

that way my main machine only has SSDs

night zodiac
#

yeah, I had 4 SSD's hooked up but only use 1 so I gave some of the SSD's to my pis, lol

brazen fable
#

I have 3 SSD's on my main machine. 1 NVMe for OS/Core programs, the other 2 sata

night zodiac
#

yeah, I just have 2 nvme's now and gave my old sata ones to the pis

midnight adder
#

wanted to ask how do you access the drives but you both use windows

#

also dark theme

brazen fable
night zodiac
#

oh, yeah. my NAS has small SSDs for caching

midnight adder
#

@brazen fable why so many terabytes if it's not a secret? are you a hoarder?

brazen fable
#

I have a lot of movies

night zodiac
brazen fable
#

some movies have 2 copies, 4k and 1080p

#

some of my 4k files are 100gb

#

So yeah, they eat space

night zodiac
brazen fable
#

The other 20tb is for security camera storage

tidal bronze
brazen fable
#

I'm able to store A TON of video feeds lmao

#

I use Aruba 515's for my APs

#

i have a unifi HD AC wave 2 I use for monitoring and the occasional survey

tidal bronze
#

Same with SHD

brazen fable
#

UniFi stuff looks so pretty but it can be super buggy sometimes.

#

Which is probably why I'll just build a PFsense box and sell off my UDM Pro and the AP

tidal bronze
#

2 outdoor units and 4 inside. Never had any issues.

brazen fable
#

It depends on the product. The UDM pro is really half baked

#

I mean for the price tag I suppose it's ok

tidal bronze
#

Never liked SGs running ER 6P

brazen fable
#

And I would get an edgerouter infinity but for half the cost I could build a PFSense box that would out perform it

tidal bronze
#

ER 6P is just fine for my needs at least

brazen fable
#

Now that things are somewhat returning to normal-ish I'm hoping I can finally get my metroE installed

#

3gbps up/down

#

So I need to be able to route that, and I want IPS and some goodies

#

I'm hoping they fix up the UDM Pro though because it's a good looking box and the interface is slick

#

The features that do work well, are pretty fantastic too

tidal bronze
#

Unifi is great as long as you know how to fine tune manually and keep away from any of the AI/Auto crap

dusky plank
#

my 50€ tplink router has better coverage (in my case atleast) and I feel more secure than with any of that unify stuff

tacit tapir
brazen fable
#

Lol no

#

You can't compare TPLink garbage to unifi. It's just.. no

#

looooooooool

dusky plank
#

tp link with openwrt πŸ™‚

brazen fable
#

Yeah, no.

dusky plank
#

iyep

brazen fable
#

I mean, I understand not everyone has advanced networking needs, but the two products aren't remotely comparable

#

You're trying to compare a ford escort to a ferrari. The horsepower difference alone between the two devices is massive

dusky plank
#

well I get the max out of AC from both, tplink was actually faster I think the unifi stuff is for hungdreds of devices, so I don't really get the craze for this unifi stuff

tidal bronze
#

Home router AC performance / throughput is actually better. Unifi is not for that, mainly for handling many clients while keeping everyone happy.

night zodiac
#

yeah, unifi solved all of my wifi problems pretty quickly

#

it even tells me if airplanes from the nearby airport blast me with RADAR

brazen fable
#

With my Aruba 515's I get 2.4 gbps through put

tidal bronze
#

If shit works the way you want, that's all that matters. πŸ˜†

brazen fable
dusky plank
#

wifi is a bit difficult tu figure out what works best for you, but unifi is really not made for best throughput @ home

tidal bronze
#

Depends on the area you have to cover and number of clients.

brazen fable
#

My phone caps out at 1.2gbps link.. but that's a limitation of the phone

tidal bronze
#

I wish I can slap a single unit in the middle and call it a day. Lol.

brazen fable
#

That'd be nice ha

tidal bronze
#

Yep. I wish.

brazen fable
#

I probably could put an AP smack dab in the middle and get very slow access throughout

#

but what fun is that?

#

Give me gigabit wireless everywhere

#

\o/

dusky plank
#

a single unit that's what I have for 2 floors πŸ™‚

brazen fable
#

Escort, meet ferrari

#

Ferrari, escort

dusky plank
#

I don't get why they sell the ac hd pro stuff still with a throughput cap lower than the consumer products

brazen fable
#

that's not what the HD pro is for

#

It's for connecting MANY clients at a campus

tidal bronze
#

I used to be crazy about max throughput back in the day. Now 250mb with seamless fastroamimg from edge to edge of the property I am a very happy camper.

dusky plank
#

yeah so do you have a campus at home? no, you want the full throughput at home πŸ˜„

brazen fable
#

I have both. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

night zodiac
#

but you asked why they sell it, lol

#

not asked, but close

brazen fable
#

And seamless fast roaming thoughout. I assure you, my coverage area and speed are better.

terse stag
#

wifi 5 mesh APs were on clearance near me so that's what I went with

dusky plank
#

πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

terse stag
#

there's enough backhaul for decent speed

brazen fable
#

Especially since I have 3gbps backhaul on these things. If I threw my wireless load at your TP-link it'd probably light on fire

night zodiac
#

I'm glad my netgear router died. it's one of the best things to happen to me.

dusky plank
#

with openwrt and non-native wan-lan speeds for sure... but I'm fine with 1gbps and the full AC speeds for my 40 clients πŸ™‚

tidal bronze
#

Hmmm full ac speed on 40 clients ? πŸ€”

brazen fable
#

Not simultaneous obviously

dusky plank
#

the iot lot is on 2.4 πŸ˜„

tidal bronze
#

Lol

brazen fable
#

Small network is small.

tidal bronze
#

Perhaps no universal product for every applicationπŸ˜†

brazen fable
#

although most of my IoT stuff isn't even wifi. It's zwave/zigbee lul

#

The wifi ones are my Alexa's, Google Homes, uh.....

#

MyQ

#

Pretty much everything else is wired in or zwave

#

except a roku stick

terse stag
#

if you want throughput on wifi just grab one or two good tri-band APs and call it a day

dusky plank
#

does unifi have a wifi 6 range yet?

terse stag
#

i think so

night zodiac
#

I just got a shit ton of japanese mayo in the mail per quads suggestion

dusky plank
#

nope

#

it's AmpliFi

terse stag
#

ooooooooooh the unifi ap-6-lite is for early access users only

tidal bronze
#

@night zodiac thank me later

brazen fable
#

2x2

#

Oh, it's only $99

#

that's not bad i suppose

night zodiac
#

fek

#

why does ti require an account for dl's, lol

#

losers

bitter pawn
brazen fable
#

Early access just requires clicking a button

#

make a ubiquity account and click early access lol

bitter pawn
#

sounds like a great way to advertise their new products! eyeroll

steep fractal
#

Anyone have any good recommendations for starting out NAS's? Seems like its mainly Synology/QNAP

brazen fable
#

This is home Assistant lounge

#

If you don't build your own NAS it's heresy @steep fractal

#

Loool

night zodiac
#

I'd rather buy one than build one

brazen fable
#

I like the ability of adding virtually unlimited disks

#

But there's nothing wrong with a qnap or synology

night zodiac
#

DSM just works and is running with 5 minutes. I love DSM. Are you using truenas?

night zodiac
#

@tidal bronze I got some of those relays in. going to mess with it

night zodiac
#

lol, they're loud

hard apex
#

2

hushed basalt
#

@rare condor I put Plex in an LXC

#

Seems to work pretty well. I haven't got around to setting up the hardware acceleration yet but that should be a lot easier than a VM

night zodiac
#

she's pretty simple with docker as well

#
    devices:
      - /dev/dri:/dev/dri
#

for me is all I had to do

#

I just spent forever trying to sort a problem wtih an addon only to realize I never started it

hushed basalt
#

Yeah but I don't want to run docker on my hypervisor

night zodiac
#

yeah, 'just saying it was simple

#

I liked it

tidal bronze
#

@shy comet finally done with ledfx. Pi + USB line in + Chromecast audio. Command line switches to switch ledfx presents via HA πŸ˜†

night zodiac
#

nice

#

I finally got mqtt rolling

#

I am dumb

tidal bronze
#

I wish everything was mqtt

night zodiac
#

I have a small cheap little one for now

#

cr23423424234

#

or whatever

#

zigbee to mqtt, that is

shy comet
#

@tidal bronze wow thats awesome....im not even ready for that yet lol

tidal bronze
#

Mic thing is a mess. CC audio much cleaner.

shy comet
#

yea for sure i have a spare one somewhere lol

tidal bronze
#

There you go.

hushed basalt
#

I need to upgrade my zigbee

#

Cc2531 works just barely

wraith vortex
#

Have you looked at Freenas or Unraid?

night zodiac
#

yeah, I am on the waiting list for the one with the wild name

tidal bronze
#

Now I have to dig in to E 1.31 to mqtt. It would be badass to get bass beats to regular RGBW down lights straight from ledfx. @shy comet

shy comet
#

lol

#

your house is gonna be like a club πŸ˜›

night zodiac
#

I wish I could find some time to write something to use the spotify analysis api

shy comet
#

@night zodiac in case you were wondering mario kart 8 deluxe πŸ‘Œ

night zodiac
#

I've always wanted to be able to automate that

#

nice dsh, haha

#

I got my lite in the mail today

shy comet
#

nice!

night zodiac
#

I bought zelda on her account, I should have bought a physical copy :/

#

I might just rebuy

shy comet
#

printing some joycon wheels lol

tidal bronze
#

It already is lol But downlights go on sequence. Would be super to get bass beat color variations. @shy comet

shy comet
#

lol

night zodiac
#

pretty small codebase too, haha

#

bets on how long my "doorbell" lasts the weather?

night zodiac
#

I have to be doing some more dumb stuff

lyric sable
#

I'm looking to buy an electric curtains motor, any advise , I was thinking of the Zemismart and flashing it with Tasmota, is there any other alternative that work with HA ?

hushed basalt
#

Ordered another 32GB of ram for my homelab cluster

#

My main node keeps running out :(

#

I'm not sure if it's the nfs backed volume mounts in docker caching everything to ram and running out

#

Lots of black boxes involved that I can't get into easily to debug

night zodiac
#

okay, doorbell and motion sensor automations finally rolling

night zodiac
hushed basalt
#

Hack all the things

#

Needs more lights

rare condor
#

@hushed basalt Nice are you using a privileged container and sharing the local zfs pool or using NFS to mount Plex Storage?

hushed basalt
#

I'm using a mount in the lxc to the media dataset

#

Not sure if that makes sense or what I should even be doing

#

Documentation is a bit poo poo on this

rare condor
#

That's fine, (well it's considered bad practice) but its what I do.

#

The only issue is your Plex Container will be read only unless you set the fs files 'chmod 777' or tick the option privileged container.

#

I.e. try delete a file from the zfs fs, you'll probably find you can't which doesn't matter for Plex anyway as it's just 'reading' the media.

thick dragon
#

Random-ass question: Anyone got any experience with electric bicycles? Pretty keen to get one, but want a fairly reliable one.

rare condor
#

Yes I owned the Xiaomi Ebike - it was great, love how portable it was.

#

What are you after feature wise?

rare condor
light trout
thick dragon
#

@rare condor: Looking at more than a portable bike. Was looking at a more heavy duty commuter as I'll be riding 17km across the Gateway bridge (in Brisbane, about 14% incline). Was considering the Kalkhoff brand.

rare condor
#

@light trout Congratulations

#

Ah fair enough don't have experience on that front, I ride a scooter to work when I am not in lockdown.

#

Home Assistant is a framework I wrote in Python to automate switching the lights on and off based on devices at home and the position of the sun. - lol expanded a little bit more since then

light trout
#

Just a little bit πŸ˜„

wintry crater
#

i migrated from openhab years ago and hass felt like a toy at first

#

πŸ˜„

#

best decision in my life

rare condor
#

I initially had python and bash scripts loaded by cron and rc.local on Raspi 1.

#

Rough times...

wintry crater
#

rough times indeed

forest edge
#

@light trout grats man!

#

so this means hacs get baked in right? i mean..

light trout
#

I don't think that would fit

forest edge
#

? how not?

#

baked in would augment the addon store or become a branch of it

light trout
#

It's too big and too complex, but who knows πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

forest edge
#

well it could be an optional "turn on" feature for people but having it preinstalled and working out of box would be a huge positive thing

#

even if the preinstall was the most basic core and required additional downloading if users decided to turn the feature on

light trout
#

That almost like it is now, you can just run a oneline to get it installed

forest edge
#

i'm kind of a perfect example, I literally half equal amounts of everything on my install from addons to hacs additions.. it's split down the middle lol

#

I can't run that with the os

light trout
#

sure you can

forest edge
#

unless something changed in the past few months i'm unaware of

#

I can run curl commands from file editor or through ssh

#

or i guess the terminal addon

light trout
#

Yup πŸ‘

forest edge
#

yea but it would be "nicer" if a user didn't have to go that route, which is why hacs needs to be baked in lol

light trout
#

I could turn that script in to a one-off addon, but that feels wierd

forest edge
#

my hacs has just been updated all these months so I can't speak of how the install goes now vs then but before people would even screw up a single command line lol

#

I think you and the rest should really consider baking it in someway, even if a toggle only runs an install script would be more "user friendly"

#

people obviously get things working in the end regardless and sometimes the journey even helps them but with HA going more UI and more and more people finding it easier to work with, it only makes sense for HAC install to just be as easy, especially since you got all the internal handling of the intergrations etc as a single click as is

#

just my 2 cents anyways

rare condor
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I agree it would be nice to have HACs as a feature in HASS

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Such that it can be enabled directly from a base install, its hard to find a user who doesn't rely on HACs these days.

forest edge
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they are taking their sweet time with this usb boot for the rpi4 lol.. they need to hurry the hell up

hearty depot
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beta is working well already

forest edge
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you trying it out?

peak cloud
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Anyone here in UK by chance?

hearty depot
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jup - to be honest, I screwed up the first try πŸ˜„

forest edge
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ew uk 🀒

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oh wait, i mean ew norway 🀒

peak cloud
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I know, I know. I just need a product that's only available in UK, so it's going to require redirection a shipment.

forest edge
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@hearty depot how so?

hearty depot
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you have to set the boot options in a format like 0x41 I misunderstood it and and wrote 0x4,0x1

forest edge
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ah

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I see in the patch notes they took in account for people messing up lol

hearty depot
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restoring ist just plugging another SD card

forest edge
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I hope they drop release soon cause my poor sd card has certianly been ran through the ringer for awhile now

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i'll be like atFrenck! atFrenck! atFrenck! atFrenck!

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we don't see much of you @peak cloud but then I can't really speak cause people don't see much of me either lately lol

peak cloud
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I've been here and there.

forest edge
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family still playing minecraft on console? till 3am? lol

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think you said it was on console

peak cloud
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They play 24/7. One on PC and one on console.

forest edge
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lol

hearty depot
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isnt Tinkerer home in the UK?

forest edge
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somewhere around there

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umm what happened to @atxbyea

peak cloud
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Emoji.

forest edge
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what?

peak cloud
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@hearty depot Tinkerer has been inactive the past couple of days.

hearty depot
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😨
what happens

peak cloud
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We disabled the use of external emoji on this server, and it upset quite a few people.

forest edge
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he left?

hearty depot
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rererere - get them back.jpg
πŸ˜„

peak cloud
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atxbyea left on his own account, yes.

forest edge
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oh man that sux

peak cloud
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It really does 😦

forest edge
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the emoji's were a little excessive but didn't think anyone would take it that seriously

hearty depot
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I prefer emoji shitposting over good people leaving

forest edge
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I see Teddie is still here

peak cloud
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Teddie = Tediore?

forest edge
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nights not going to be anywhere near the same without our norwegian punching bag lol

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yea teddie = Tediore

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now me thinks i should scroll up and see what i been missing since last night lol

peak cloud
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Scroll back two days or so.

forest edge
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wtf i spend a few weeks grinding in a game and all hell breaks loose lol

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just my two cents on this subject Dev's who want to converse with the general public in this Discord need to be one color while Mods should be another. You look at the list and you think it's already like that but it isn't, you have Dev's who are green while non dev mods who are the same color and to the general public everyone who is either Green or Yellow seems to represent HA in a professional type of matter which is what I assumed cause this issue because some of the Green who are not on the payroll of HA are being looked at as if they were.

wintry crater
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i would rather have no colors

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and treat everyone equally

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if someone has a question, green, blue or white, help him equally

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without prioritization

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πŸ˜—

forest edge
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Granted mods in general should behave in a professional matter in accordance with the rules and guidelines set forth in this Discord but separating them would help deflect any behavior from directly harming HA in a professional matter

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@wintry crater that happens already

peak cloud
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Green = mod, Yellow = admin (R.I.P. my admin days...), blue = Jedi

wintry crater
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can i be a jedi

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it's my child dream

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πŸ˜„

peak cloud
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.jedi

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Where is HassBot?!

wintry crater
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docker changed api yesterday

peak cloud
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The Jedi role is earned by contributing to others in a knowledgable manner, day after day, without expectation of receiving anything in return.

wintry crater
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need to upgrade py package to 1.3.4

forest edge
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should be a separation between mod and dev in the list. those dev's who don't want to be seen as a dev can hidden under jedi or padawan or like what the server owner does

peak cloud
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It would be extremely difficult for us to keep up with every dev that contributed to the project -- there are just too many, and some come and some go.

forest edge
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like Ludeeus should be yellow now etc

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there is payrol devs and non payroll right?

peak cloud
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Yellow = admin, not dev.

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Let me ask you this: what color is balloob? πŸ˜›

forest edge
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thats my point

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hes hiding

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and thats fine to hide

peak cloud
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At this point in time, we do not recognize devs with their own role.

forest edge
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i'm talking what the general public sees

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right now if dale went on a rampage people would think the staff of HA went nuts lol

peak cloud
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The general public doesn't need to see who the developers are.

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If one needs to drill down to development, they are welcome to hop over to the #developers channel.

junior forge
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there is payrol devs and non payroll right?
@forest edge being an employee of Nabu has much much to do with that...

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Thing you can or cannot do in terms of permissions in the HA project, is related to what you contribute to as a contributor

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To Home Assistant

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I’m on the payrol, hasn’t changed anything for me personally, except I can spend more hours on the project

forest edge
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let me ask this

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was the emoji thing because it was displaying a bad reputation towards HA?

junior forge
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Yes

wintry crater
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i think channel approach is better, if you have any q to mods, ask there, same with devs. showing that u dev or mod in general have no meaning in my opinion

forest edge
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and that was because of who and thier role that were doing it?

junior forge
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No not role related

forest edge
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no?

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me doing it as a blue vs a greenb doing is diffrent no?

junior forge
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If someone specifically should be addressed, they would have been adressed on personal or group level

peak cloud
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When I was the server admin, I got so many DMs regarding random stuff, from support to spam to business offers. It was annoying, for sure.

forest edge
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well then I was wrong in what I thought may have happened

junior forge
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πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ it is fairly simple. They where used a lot, while fun it can be overdone at times. This is not welcoming.

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We have quite a few new users popping in here, new to HA and often discord as well

forest edge
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I thought them being mods as well played a hand in all of it as well, so my bad in that assumption

junior forge
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Nope

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In general, emojis are good and helpful if they are used correctly. This applies to the default set of emoji as well. However, external ones tend to have more explicit expressions or are, often, heavily animated. Some times even not appropriate and uncontrollable for this community.

Especially with unknown emojis, or, misunderstood emojis, the message can end up wrongly with the receiver. The use of those external emojis was pretty high, which is a pretty recent development somehow. Sometimes it even took over the actual context of the chat.

The goal of this server is to help people and build up a friendly atmosphere.

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A wall of moving gifs and emojis is not helpful with that in general

forest edge
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I agree but the general pubic saying, using doesn't reflect good or bad on HA itself, it only reflects on that person doing it. not implying the emoji thing was the wrong call or anything just saying some of us can be childish immature children all we want up till the point we get banned lol

junior forge
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It does reflect on HA and other people in terms of how comfortable they feel to be here

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Take the Pepe emojis

forest edge
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thats what mods are for

midnight adder
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Sorry for my drastic view on this. but isn't it just censored here so as not to get on any random snowflakes feet?

junior forge
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@forest edge really now?

forest edge
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what?

junior forge
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@midnight adder I don’t think so?

forest edge
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mods job are to remove those things that make other people uncomfortable etc right?

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was that not correct?

junior forge
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I do not see what that has to do with stopping accepting external emojis because the content and use can be problematic

dusky plank
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discord = home assistant for me

forest edge
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don't misunderstand, i agree with the decision. but technically not all external emoji are bad in that way and you said, some have their use. so prior to the decision it was a mods job to remove those bad ones etc, obviously the case in point is alittle more complex lol

junior forge
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It didn’t say they are all bad

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I said they weren’t controllable

rare condor
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I'm a bit confused has Tediore, atxbyea and other users been banned? I had massive respect for those guys they offered great support and helped me πŸ™‚

junior forge
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Thus is becomes a job to monitor and even that is hard as to judge how one might receive things (as said Pepe the frog is a great example)

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Which is simply not needed by a config option

forest edge
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no @rare condor

midnight adder
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the questionmark is irretating me :D
that's the whole black / white master / slave discussion all over, Political correctness over everything.
I diskike the path were going in society. Everyone is offended and uses this as an argument.

junior forge
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@rare condor atx left on their own, Tediore I haven’t seen? Dunno, no one has been banned

forest edge
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@midnight adder not the same thing

dusky plank
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though I agree that there are some explicit gifs out there I also agree with @midnight adder

rare condor
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Oh that's disappointing. 😦

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I very much considered this place part of the HASS community.

dusky plank
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why did they leave? atx was fun

rare condor
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Yeah I am very surprised

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atx was on here daily

dusky plank
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teddi too

forest edge
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@dusky plank disagreements

rare condor
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oh 😦

junior forge
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@dusky plank atx didn’t say anything in the channels i am in. @scenic radish ? Dunno? He hasn’t left or said anything? Not sure

forest edge
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atx will be back if i have to pester him daily to accomplish it lol

dusky plank
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too bad

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@forest edge duit, twice for me too

rare condor
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I hope any disagreements can be overcome and we can all work towards making this community as inclusive as we can.

junior forge
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I’m not sure if it is a disagreement though

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That requires at least saying a word I would say πŸ™‚

forest edge
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only they themselves can answer the reasons why

rare condor
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It sounds silly but I lost a really good friend on IRC and afterwards it really hurt, I had spoken to them everyday and to realise they were gone actually felt like losing a friend in real life.

dusky plank
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they for sure bullied on the norwegian

rare condor
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Ok so were they removed as Mods?

junior forge
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Nope

rare condor
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I can't see there names in the sidebar? Is that to stop spam

midnight adder
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do me a favor and watch this video (recorded 1984) and tell me if something similar is going on right now.
https://youtu.be/Z1EA2ohrt5Q?t=79 I definitely have the feeling, but who am I to judge.

junior forge
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No? @scenic radish is offline, atx left the server without saying anything on his own initiative.

dusky plank
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cannot, corporate proxy does not allow yt

rare condor
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Wasn't there like more mods, like I can't see Tinkerer or others as well.

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My memory may be serving me wrong though

light trout
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Now you see me

forest edge
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they can choose not to show or be offline

light trout
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Now you don't

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πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

rare condor
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He's invisible!

junior forge
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Hehehe

dusky plank
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ludeeus is flash: confirmed

forest edge
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Ludeeus using daark magic

rare condor
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a g.. g... g.. ghost!??

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πŸ‘»πŸ‘»πŸ‘»πŸ‘»πŸ‘»

rare condor
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Sorry I don't trust duckduckgo.

midnight adder
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yt link is above, tell me why?
i mean google is probably more evel

rare condor
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There are too many πŸ¦†'s in the title

dusky plank
junior forge
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Duck duck go isn’t a saint either

midnight adder
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who else

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I need some cond of serach engine
and selfhosting a serch engine... hard πŸ˜„

junior forge
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Make me wonder, do I dislike πŸ¦†?

dusky plank
rare condor
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damn, I forgot about the ebay auction 😦

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awww I really wanted that

midnight adder
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@rare condor apperently
ah still yt..
hoped they stream it over their servers

dusky plank
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company does tls-interception, I believe they can even read everything i type here

midnight adder
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πŸ˜…

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probably only could. Just imagne going over all the packages

dusky plank
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should be plain text then

midnight adder
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walking on very uneducated ground here.
its still ssl, but one of the CA's keys is known
SSL Stripping should be possible in a cooperate network

dusky plank
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I'm no expert either but even everything transmitted via stunnel gets inspected.
if it's unknown it gets filtered (vpns etc...)
if it's plain HTTP it gets through

midnight adder
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I guess rather DPI
deep package inspection
they aware of wich sites you using, but data youre reciving and sending is in an TLS envelope, killing off https would be madness

dusky plank
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well I have a root cert installed on my system which makes the proxy trusted... so basically the proxy receives everything plain as I do

peak cloud
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@rare condor You obviously don't own a Jeep and live in Texas right now. πŸ¦† is all the crazy in North Texas right now.

low harness
forest edge
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own a jeep in north texas what? lol

midnight adder
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πŸ˜“ yea.. youre fucked πŸ˜„
you could get around this with an ssh proxy afaik

peak cloud
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@forest edge Please don't tell me you own a Jeep and live in North Texas...

forest edge
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i don't own a jeep nor live in texas lol

dusky plank
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ssh proxy when only 443 and 80 is allowed? nope πŸ˜„

forest edge
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but whats the deal with texas jeep owners?

midnight adder
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whats the problem of setting up ssh on 443 or 80?
I had one running on 53udp
perfect for hotelwifis (you dont screw around with dns in a firewall, otherwise youre busy all year )

dusky plank
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everything goes through the proxy, the proxy only allows http/s

peak cloud
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So there's a trend going around here that is called "ducking." It's where people get a bunch of rubber ducks, write their Jeep name and/or location on them, along with a kind compliment, and go and stick them on other Jeeps.

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It's also been confirmed to have spread to Colorado and Oklahoma. So be careful if you're a Jeep owner! You might get ducked!

forest edge
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wtf lol

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not heard of that

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but then jeep owners are weird

peak cloud
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It started about 2-3 weeks ago.

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I didn't even mean to send a screenshot of a duck I left, but that was one of my ducks! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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(My Jeep = GREMLIN)

forest edge
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so you ducked her?

peak cloud
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Oh, I ducked her hard.

forest edge
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or got ducked

peak cloud
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I ducked a dude pretty hard in his garage, too.

forest edge
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ewww

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keep your duck down south

peak cloud
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It's spreading, like 'rona.

low harness
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Honestly - the pun opportunities is actually the only reason you do this, right?

forest edge
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jeep people are like cults here, it's something else

low harness
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I mean. It's a good reason.

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Probably the best one I can come up with to leave an anonymous rubber duck on someones car.

peak cloud
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@low harness I think the pun opportunities plays a MAJOR role in the activity.

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But seriously, it's fun to spread joy and not rona.

forest edge
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you wait, the anti-jeep people will start leaving duck poo on people's jeeps in protest

midnight adder
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I only own a usb rubber ducky 😦

peak cloud
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I've deployed over 200 ducks in the past week.

junior forge
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Rofl 🀣 how is that even a thing?!

peak cloud
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@forest edge Jeep is love. Jeep is life. No matter where you live.

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Hell, I spent 6 hours ducking yesterday alone! And I was only able to deploy about 80 of my ducks in that time period!

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Let me find a video of someone's day who was made...BY ME!

low harness
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"What exactly is the function of a rubber duck?"

forest edge
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jeep cult and Texans.. as the Banner said in the Avengers, "Their minds are a bag of cats"

low harness
peak cloud
forest edge
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James Veitch is hillarious, i've seen that and the others he done

peak cloud
midnight adder
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hubby?
isnt that a hotwife thing?

peak cloud
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It is.

midnight adder
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πŸ˜„

peak cloud
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But that is not a topic that can be discussed around here, so please, refrain for any further discussion.

forest edge
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you know those ducks are from china right? || lol ||

midnight adder
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like all my esp's or zigbee sensors...
and all of my hardware probably

forest edge
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covid everywhere! run!

peak cloud
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So SARS-CoV-2 can survive on rubber for multiple days now? 😯 That's news to me!

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For what it's worth, both sets of ducks arrived the following day after ordering them. So unless they were on the most important flight from China to USA, I didn't get the ducks straight from China. πŸ˜‚

forest edge
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lol

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well just let anything you buy sit for 3 days before touching and you are good

hushed basalt
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I'm still waiting for something to arrive from Sydney

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Ordered on the 5th

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Literally get stuff from USA faster

forest edge
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maybe the roo's are striking for better working conditions