Wow!
#the-water-cooler
last plaza
mild tapir
Most of the technical team @ Google Cloud is outsourced
So take a wild guess how that works out
last plaza
I can see how it does! Lucrative business for those vendors that work with one cloud provider
Spot instances. I forgot what aws service that is.
mild tapir
EC2 Spot.
last plaza
Yup
mild tapir
Honestly Amazon has a true monopoly when it comes to the cloud. microsoft refuses to let go of their NT Kernel based shit and uses Hyper-V for their entire backend of Azure
it slows it down tremendously
last plaza
Oh yeah. All these third party vendors throw in their weight in the middle. There is no common ground if you have legacy and a bunch of third party apps to host. You get screwed by both vendors and cloud provider.
mild tapir
We tried to do something about that. Its called AppStream.
last plaza
lol. Funny you mentioned.
mild tapir
Ah so you have had the "pleasure" of dealing with that hellscape?
last plaza
Yup. That’s my day job.
mild tapir
I am so sorry
last plaza
lol
hushed basalt
mild tapir
Especially if you dealt with v1.
hushed basalt
What do I do with this now
last plaza
Synology?
mild tapir
You can never have enough offsite backups.
hushed basalt
So now it's empty
last plaza
Crazy stuff we have to deal with everyday.
mild tapir
Never. Enough.
last plaza
There you go.
hushed basalt
I still have to rely on it no crapping out again when I need it
last plaza
If you don’t use it, or not fast enough, give it to your parents. They will cherish.
hushed basalt
She plex's from me anyways haha
But she could use it for NVR
I might just put a debian VM on it though
last plaza
In the worst case, there is always someone on eBay looking for old crap
hushed basalt
DSM is the worst
last plaza
@mild tapir you still with aws?
mild tapir
I left quite recently. I was Sr Cloud Operations Engineer, Solutions Architect, and Product Development for a few years. I went to OVH to help build their competitor response.
The entire executive staff was EXTREMELY toxic
It is not a great place to work.
last plaza
lol. Yup
mild tapir
I about beat the shit out of some of the leadership over that
green inlet
Ska.....you need to watch alone on Netflix.
mild tapir
You can act elite all you want but if you are bleeding on the floor that might knock you down a few steps.
last plaza
Alone? I started Dark now. Someone suggested I watch LetterKenny on Hulu.
You can act elite all you want but if you are bleeding on the floor that might knock you down a few steps.
@mild tapir yup. Seen that a lot.
green inlet
Just put it on the list. They drop a bunch of people in the artic and the last one standing wins. They have to survive on their own. Pretty good stuff.
Now I am going to watch dark 😉
last plaza
ok. Will do. Just started Dark, it looks like it is a German show, dubbed to english. Not sure you will like it. Watch the trailer before you jump in.
green inlet
Ok, yea, I don’t like dubbed stuff. Will watch the trailer though. Alone was season 6 but I can’t find 1-5?
last plaza
Hmm.. I need to look that up. Netflix doesn’t always show you all seasons. Like Better Call Saul last season is still not there.
hushed basalt
Just watch it in German
Dubbing live action is 🤢
Did you see the bum gun @rare condor
rare condor
@hushed basalt That bathroom Bidet was certainly DIY, big nono is lack of backflow protection
rare condor
lol nice
hushed basalt
Could send the listing to watercorp
last plaza
Saw that bathroom bidet. That looks horrible.
thick bluff
Is there any way to tell if HA is working on a snapshot? seems to be taking forever
last plaza
You get your whole ass wet before you find the target.
rare condor
tbh I have seen worse (i.e. PowerPoints on floor) cables been strung around (extension cords) for power outside
worst was water fountain where a extension cord plug floated on top
last plaza
It’s good to have bidets, but not that desperate to have a diy looking solution.
hushed basalt
You can just get certified seats from your hardware store
last plaza
lol
rare condor
massage function ❤
last plaza
You should have a tattoo around the butthole and have a bidet that has a camera that recognizes the target and adjusts automatically before spraying that stream of water. That would be cool. 🤣
That automation is next level.
rare condor
it adjusts target through the ble proximity sensor and Tasmota cmd
last plaza
Speaking of tattoo - did you get your tattoo done yet?
rare condor
the HASS tattoo
last plaza
Yup
rare condor
no, my surburb has gone into lock down can't leave for non essential services
last plaza
lol
rare condor
What do other states think of Victoria atm?
ocean mirage
still better than Queensland
bitter zinc
ocean mirage
¯_(ツ)_/¯
ocean mirage
all of it is shit
rare condor
But no we are nothing like QLD
ocean mirage
Queensland is a lovely place, its just full of queenslanders
ruby osprey
what hostname do you guys usually give your HA instance?
rare condor
LOL so true
amber bramble
@ruby osprey i registered a domain for everything at my house and my HA instance is just a "ha" subdomain, so ha.domain.tld
ruby osprey
good idea
at home i ended up with hassbian (because i installed it back when that was a thing)
but i think ha is great
hushed basalt
Just homeassistant
Everything's behind a reverse proxy with subdomains
service.domain.tld super easy to remember
scenic radish
Home assistant is the top level domain for me, and other services are subdomains
hushed basalt
You monster
scenic radish
mild tapir
I have my remote services under lastname.me, home services under subdomain.home.lastname.me
mild tapir
I collect joke domains to top it all off
hushed basalt
mild tapir
Hahahaha
I have a joke image host domain that actually got sized
Then again I cant blame the registrar
"i.pedo.host"
Really did rub people the wrong way but it was funny
ruby osprey
it's not a joke
hushed basalt
I couldn't get my first name as a .tech domain
Some random person is using it for garbage
I have my name as twitter though
People try to reset it all the time
mild tapir
I hate that
hushed basalt
I don't use twitter though
green inlet
@hushed basalt , to put your two covid instances in perspective, my daughter texted today that the grocery store she works at just had two people test positive
green inlet
But 🤷🏼♂️
Not sure what to do. She wants to keep going to work. She works at the Starbucks inside the store. Small kiosk and she says she is totally protected by glass and doesn’t talk to the grocery store people.
mild tapir
Covid legit scares me. I am volunteer EMS and I have to expose myself to damn maskless idiots. Honestly, if someone inside her workplace has tested positive, she should stay at home for atleast a month for her own protection
Sometimes I ask
"Why do we even try?"
green inlet
Ok, well first off....thank you for being a first responder
She was tired when she got home. Working a 9 hour shift. I need to talk to her tomorrow.
mild tapir
Dont thank me. Thank my dead co-volunteers. We are in the hotspots of hotspots. This is death I wish to not face after seeing its aftermath.
Im so numb to this shit I feel dead on the inside already
We are so understaffed at this point it hurts
I get tested every 2 weeks and I have been lucky to not get it
The more I continue to be an EMT, the more of an inevitability. I actively avoid my parents
green inlet
Damn, that’s tough. I know a lot of first responders. They have been picking their asses up every day and doing what they know. If there is anything I can do to help you I damn sure will
last dirge
wear a mask
last dirge
tell others to do so
green inlet
I do that
mild tapir
Scream it at the top of your lungs if you have to
And smack the shit out of the idiots that dont
green inlet
Deal
mild tapir
Every time I see someone at our local grocery that isnt wearing a mask or takes it off after walking in, ill make myself look like a douchebag just to make a point
green inlet
My daughter is studying to be a nurse.
brisk glen
0.0
mild tapir
we will def need more of them after this is all over with
Studying to be a nurse is extremely hard. Respect to those who makes it through
green inlet
She just completed her first year of college. Not even in nursing school yet. She wanted to be a cop until she shot a gun. Then decided on nursing. She is absolutely in love with it. You hope for the best for your kids. DAILY.
green inlet
This too shall pass. I respect the hell out of them. They take a beating and just keep pulling themselves up by their bootstraps and doing what they know
last plaza
I read a story about a 70 year old guy cured from covid, got cheered by hospital staff on his way out, went home and got a 1.1 million bill from the hospital.
green inlet
All for just above the poverty level.
last plaza
Treatment is not cheap. Insurance doesn’t cover anything. You are screwed if you are exposed to it.
Meanwhile you have so many that refuse to wear masks as they feel their rights are violated.
mild tapir
I respect them for sure. But they should not be relied on to be paramilitary, social workers, medical first response, and so on
green inlet
Not where I live. Not wearing a mask is the minority.
mild tapir
They really need to split up their tasks amongst specialist groups
last plaza
Keep your kids safe. @green inlet
I know it is hard for them to stay home and all.
Give her Python programming book and ask her to learn during the down time. That should keep her busy.
Typing and erasing again?
green inlet
Ha ha ha. She is like me. Hates reading. I will always error on the side of caution.
Yes, was easy decision in the beginning. After so many months. Harder and harder to keep them home. They have all been really good
last plaza
We will know tomorrow what they will decide on schools after summer holidays here in Ohio.
Kids are optimistic that schools will be reopen.
green inlet
All my kids go back to college in August
last plaza
Some colleges are open, but asking the students to pay for themselves when it comes to PPE stuff.
last dirge
This is probably the best commercial I've ever seen
green inlet
Yea, I haven’t even asked about that.
last plaza
What’s up with his accent? lol
last plaza
@last plaza how's your accent?
@last dirge mine is bastardized.
last dirge
'course it is
guy with south asian background living in the midwest
bet it's lots of fun 🙂
last plaza
Ohio is not Midwest- still considered east. Indiana onwards it becomes Midwest 😝
last dirge
riiiiight
last plaza
Better than southern accent 😝
last plaza
I’d be surprised.
last dirge
then I moved to the big city
last plaza
Yeah - that can change it!
last dirge
spent the first 12 years of my life living on an island outside Savannah
last plaza
I still got my NY accent.
last dirge
on the famous Moon River
last plaza
Worked there for 4 years or so before coming here.
last dirge
how's your pronunciation on the letter v?
my friend Dinakar's been in the states for 16 years now
last plaza
Vvvvvvry good I guess 🤣
last dirge
it's still "wee"
last plaza
we should talk sometime, and then you can tell 🤣
green inlet
Jekyl? St simons?
green inlet
Ok, was going to say tabee next
green inlet
Never heard of burnside
last plaza
Me neither
last plaza
We got rich people and poor people neighborhoods separated by a street (Lane Ave) here. One side we have Walmart and other side we have Whole Foods. You can guess which side is which easily.
forest edge
one side the houses get robbed the other side people get murdered?
last plaza
One side 2000 sq ft home is million dollars, and other side it is $100k
mild tapir
I had a chuckle at that
green inlet
A lot of places like that
mild tapir
"A bloc makes a difference"
green inlet
Yes sir
scenic radish
We got rich people and poor people neighborhoods separated by a street (Lane Ave) here. One side we have Walmart and other side we have Whole Foods. You can guess which side is which easily.
@last plaza that sounds familiar...
minus the Lane Ave
green inlet
I grew up being taught people are people. And I try to teach my kids the same thing. I have been in many different neighborhoods. I smile and say hi to everyone.
mild tapir
Ive been inside plenty of "tough" neighborhoods. One being sunny side. Im white as copy paper. The way you come off makes all the diff.
last plaza
@last dirge Java 🤢
last dirge
at my previous house, it was suspicious if I wasn't the only white dude around
forest edge
I grew up being taught people are people. And I try to teach my kids the same thing. I have been in many different neighborhoods. I smile and say hi to everyone.
@green inlet people are people just some people aren't as neighborly or even give a crap at all about other people
green inlet
Sure, but they are the minority.
forest edge
even the minority can be loud
last plaza
Like you are 😝
forest edge
oooooohhhhhhhhh
last plaza
lol
green inlet
I have always treated people with respect until they deserve otherwise. Sometimes it surprises people, they expect otherwise.
I agreee, lead by example until they give you a reason to not.
forest edge
green inlet
Then all is fair in love an war 😉
forest edge
last plaza
Man! Now I got to watch Family Guy. It a been a while.
scenic radish
ehhh
forest edge
heh
i haven't seen any of the new ones but I still watch reruns when I come across them
forest edge
be like atx, open it up for others to stream stuff off you lol
last plaza
Better than tediore 😝
scenic radish
skala and chill
last plaza
I don’t play games, can’t come up with gaming lingo
mild tapir
skalalu
last plaza
That sounds good 😊
forest edge
NetSkala
last plaza
lmao
mild tapir
SkaTube TV
last plaza
Ooh I like that
last plaza
Never heard of philo
mild tapir
Its super cheap but its a great addon
last dirge
anybody replaced the rope on an engine pull start before?
last dirge
where'd you get the rope?
last plaza
If I don’t have that app on my TV, I would not have heard of that.
last dirge
looks like it's just woven rope with a jacket
last plaza
@last dirge I did on my weed eater
last dirge
the jacket's frayed
forest edge
you can get the rope anywhere, lowes, homedepot.. you just buy the same size rope that's on it
last plaza
I got it from local STIHL retail store.
mild tapir
Some of it is worth it
last plaza
Yes. It is good. I still got plenty of rope left.
forest edge
anything from the manufacture is going to be retarded high
forest edge
put some paracord on it and try and pull start it
forest edge
lol
last dirge
HMMMMM
last dirge
it's not broken, yet
green inlet
You can get a generic pull cord from Home Depot for like 5.00 that will last as long as the one on there. Done it several times
last dirge
I'll probably end up just using paracord
last plaza
As long as fits
scenic radish
@unreal orbit finally added your custom sidebar plugin along with balloob's panel redirect thing to add a Server Controls button on the bottom of the sidebar
green inlet
If you are going to go through the trouble to take everything apart, why wouldn’t you do it semi right
last dirge
@tidal bronze started redefining my flower bed the other day
went around it with the stick edger then used a flat shovel
@green inlet because the engine is coming off and getting replaced with a motor as soon as the place that sells the right sprocket has them in stock again
unreal orbit
@scenic radish oh good to know that already exists, I was planning on adding that functionality eventually
last dirge
and "taking everything apart" is like 5 bolts
tidal bronze
Looking great. Did PGF 2 days ago.
scenic radish
@unreal orbit yeah and i just noticed you have a hide option! gonna use that to hide the calendar button
last dirge
Anderson's?
tidal bronze
Yep
last plaza
@unreal orbit you did custom sidebar plugin?
unreal orbit
You can also redefine the link href so you can switch the default panel for say dev tools
scenic radish
last dirge
I need to do some fert on the back yard
tidal bronze
Following you lead 😀
scenic radish
oh sweet, i didn't even think of using it to force the default panel
last dirge
just ordered a new spreader to upgrade from the shitty Scott's one
tidal bronze
I need a new spreader too
last plaza
I need to look into it. I haven’t added anything to my sidebar for a while.
green inlet
Scott’s drop spreader?
unreal orbit
I like states as the default, it’s where I’m trying to get to 99% of the time
scenic radish
yup
last plaza
Ah!
last dirge
@green inlet no, just a crappy broadcast one
tidal bronze
@green inlet what I have is crap.
last dirge
I ordered an Earthway 2600
last plaza
I thought states will be discontinued soon.
unreal orbit
No the States panel in dev tools
last dirge
probably will do this again soonish
tidal bronze
Oh levelling 👍
last dirge
tidal bronze
I did the front yard
last dirge
when all property can be beachfront 🙂
last plaza
Why did you have to park your Tesla so far away?
green inlet
How did you level?
last dirge
because the dump truck had to dump 3 yards of sand in the driveway?
scenic radish
What is love?
tidal bronze
Yep. What did you use?
last dirge
masonry sand and a drag mat
tidal bronze
Lol. Nice.
scenic radish
we have different definitions of love
green inlet
Just a drag net?
last plaza
You can use any DIY flat thing to drag evenly.
green inlet
I use playground sand
tidal bronze
Are you using top soil as well ?
unreal orbit
DIY flat thing, a must have
midnight adder
i love docker containers
last plaza
Use a 2x4 frame and drag it by hand or use riding mower
last dirge
@midnight adder I love lamp
green inlet
Me, Tupperware
last dirge
@tidal bronze no topsoil
tidal bronze
Sand only ?
last dirge
yeah
tidal bronze
Re seeding as well ?
last dirge
the fill dirt in that picture was to fill in a bigass hole from where the tree used to be
no, I got that creeping grass
tidal bronze
I am trying a custom mix this time.
green inlet
Damn....like 8 different convos going on, all of which I am interested in....and look a shiney nickel
tidal bronze
Did you decide on the battery packs ?
unreal orbit
We need a #the-water-cooler2
last plaza
Did you stick your thumb in the engine?
last dirge
@tidal bronze gonna use EGO packs
midnight adder
lol
tidal bronze
Nice. Easy way out.
green inlet
My last mower smoked so bad the neighbors on either side went on a two day vacation every weekend 🤣
last plaza
🤣
green inlet
Just so I could mow the yard
last plaza
I have to try that trick
last dirge
the head was just as bad
@last plaza from pictures in the camera roll around that time it looks like I sliced the end off of my finger preparing dinner
scenic radish
can't hear you from over in #728089870836301905
green inlet
I am not seeing the problem in your pictures. Gas ‘er up and go
hushed basalt
Ordered so many things
last plaza
I know the feeling. Surprise is good sometimes.
Sometimes I get shit that I forgot I ordered them.
green inlet
Cribbs, I redefined my beds a couple weeks ago with just a shovel. Did that bed redefiner make the job easier or junk?
last dirge
I didn't use the redefiner blade this time
green inlet
Just a shovel
last dirge
I need some hardware to get the blade to work on my stick edger
I just used my stick edger
went backwards and slow
then used the flat shovel
green inlet
Auh, you can rent an actual bed redefiner
last plaza
Got lost in lounge 1,2,3... 🤣
last dirge
I don't have a truck
last plaza
I got a craftsman edger. Works great
last plaza
Problem is it is electric. Have to drag cables around.
I’ll go with gas powered, but I am good for now.
green inlet
Lmao....it fits on the end of your edger/ trimmer
hushed basalt
Yes it's my hdd
last plaza
Yes
hushed basalt
It's come like almost 2 weeks early
last dirge
@last plaza the EGO stuff is badass
hushed basalt
Now we play the waiting game
scenic radish
alright we're back
unreal orbit
No we’re not
last plaza
lol
green inlet
Cribbs, rent it
last plaza
@scenic radish love the idea of opening and closing channels on demand. We should have bot do that if we have too many messages in lounge
scenic radish
heh i did mention it was load balancing
green inlet
@midnight adder , no, it is just @scenic radish
last dirge
@green inlet no need, I've got the blade that'll fit on my stick edger
midnight adder
i was referring to that
scenic radish
last plaza
lol. I could easily do that. That would be fun.
last dirge
I just have to find a different reverse thread nut
scenic radish
still waiting on the /dev/null channel
hushed basalt
Anyone ever shucked an wd elements before
hushed basalt
scenic radish
@last plaza could make a permanent #the-water-cooler-alt maybe?
midnight adder
yes
forest edge
lol a #emoji-free channel
hushed basalt
I'll have to use an adapter while I test them before shucking
last plaza
Only on demand , but not keep it al the time.
scenic radish
yeah, fair enough
hushed basalt
Damn your american weird power plugs
last plaza
Otherwise we get too many questions
mild tapir
I generally run 2 generals and call it overflow
green inlet
Lmao.....you talked Ska into it 🤔
midnight adder
american power plugs are good
biased
fake news
forest edge
weird? those two prong one's are the size of a coffee can
last plaza
@hushed basalt
last plaza
Among all, American outlet looks good. 🤣
midnight adder
^^^
scenic radish
B I G B O I
hushed basalt
forest edge
everytime i see some euro show where someone plugs something in it reminds me of Frankstein where they need to plug in the cable to catch the lightning
last dirge
is Japan 220v?
midnight adder
bruh that outlet looks like a ghost
scenic radish
a ghast
last dirge
@midnight adder notice the stupid switch above it
last plaza
Do it good old fashion way. Connect bare wires and connect them
forest edge
honey get the extension cord. https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6626823.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Clock-Tower-in-Back-to-the-Future.jpg
last dirge
lick your fingers and connect 'em
midnight adder
i mean when i want switches for them i have to install it separately
last plaza
For extra safety that is.
midnight adder
still
green inlet
🍿
last dirge
I just haven't bothered to swap the outlets and disconnect the switch
know what I hate?
midnight adder
what
last dirge
arc fault breakers
mild tapir
I have dual purpose breakers.
forest edge
?
scenic radish
i've heard those are a pain in the ass brian
mild tapir
They always flip when the damn socket arcs
last dirge
luckily they're only in the bedrooms
forest edge
nothing wrong with arc, they now make gfci with arc built in too
last dirge
@mild tapir or when you use a flourescent fixture with a starter
green inlet
Cribbs, is there something you don’t know about ?
last plaza
Cribbs, is there something you don’t know about ?
@green inlet he doesn’t know what he doesn’t know.
green inlet
🤷🏼♂️
mild tapir
last dirge
I know a little about a lot
hushed basalt
We have RCDs here. On everything. They never nuisance trip
last plaza
I know just enough to be dangerous
last dirge
@hushed basalt they're only code here in wet areas
builder grade devices SUCK
I've replaced half a dozen of them in this house
last plaza
Gents, running out of juice on my mobile. As always, pleasure is all your’s!
forest edge
later, take Tediore with you
mild tapir
And dont bring him back when you come back
green inlet
Ska, good seeing you tonight. Stay safe
midnight adder
lol
last dirge
Ska's always upbeat
green inlet
Kiss my kids and your wife 🤣
forest edge
we don't hear from @peak cloud very often these days. hopefully the covid hasn't gotten him
midnight adder
is it allowed to integrate github webhook with discord webhook? (feels like spam, people have gotten banned)
last dirge
@forest edge he's near a major hotspot
and he and his customers are in the "higher risk" category
forest edge
yea I thought he was south
last dirge
he's in TX
forest edge
texas is the new ny atm I guess according to the news
last dirge
but he "recently" moved, I just don't remember to where
@dull chasm is in the shit too
I live in the county in GA that's the biggest hotspot
unreal orbit
Have any of you had family/friends that have had it?
green inlet
I had a family member die from it and know others who have.
unreal orbit
I’m sorry for your loss
last dirge
@unreal orbit luckily, no
green inlet
Thank you. It is what it is
unreal orbit
My brother just tested positive today. I’ve been trying not to panic all day
last dirge
he got the brainstem swab?
green inlet
Ok, so, my family member was in her 70s
forest edge
@unreal orbit sorry to hear that. how old is he?
green inlet
I don’t think you panic till they go to the hospital and even then, until they are put in a drug induced comma and put on a vent
unreal orbit
He just turned 30 this year, and he doesn’t have any medical conditions. So chances are low, but it’s still scary
The most unfortunate thing is they just had a baby literally a week ago. So now my SIL has to do everything by herself
forest edge
someone in here had it
peak cloud
@forest edge I didn't do it!
green inlet
Prayers for you brah and their family
midnight adder
yes
last dirge
ayyyye, it's Dale
unreal orbit
Thank you
peak cloud
But yes, I'm in Fort Worth, just 30 minutes from Dallas, and about 5 hours from Houston. It's pretty bad down here.
My sister is a survivor, she had it at the end of April. Thank goodness she didn't pass it to my parents or me 😦
forest edge
did she experince the sweats and shortness of breath mainly like most?
mild tapir
From Houston I send my condolences.
peak cloud
I am not sure of her symptoms specifically, I didn't ask.
@mild tapir Please be careful down there. My sister is just outside of Houston, and she said it's REAL bad down there.
mild tapir
I am EMT. There is no careful for us.
forest edge
sweating and getting winded doing the basic of stuff like walking up stairs or taking the trash out seems to be the most common
tough igloo
I get those symptoms from Discord
forest edge
@tough igloo lol
tough igloo
But yes it is quite awful
midnight adder
scary
peak cloud
@mild tapir Thank you for your service. What is your take on everyone calling you a hero for being forced to work the front line?
mild tapir
Our volunteer agency has already lost half the team to it. I watched 2 of my friends die on the table.
I am no hero.
I am a human
forest edge
damn sorry to hear about your friends
peak cloud
You are protecting us, and for that, and I think I speak for everyone here when I say this, we thank you very much.
mild tapir
I will do what I can until it kills me to do what I can to protect us from this shit
All I ask is just please for all that is holy
Wear a fucking mask
forest edge
just keep the internet running, is all we need to keep us indoors
green inlet
And that right there is the first responder attitude. From cop to emt to fireman
unreal orbit
The simplest thing that people for some reason have a problem with
peak cloud
I have 12 cloth, and a handful of disposable for others in case I see them walking around without one.
midnight adder
hah
unreal orbit
Double hero
midnight adder
both jobs have equal respect from me
mild tapir
I was at AWS when the whole lockdown started. Holy shit
The shear amount of VPN connections nearly wiped out half the DC's
midnight adder
whoa what does AWS look like in the datacenter i've always wondered lol
mild tapir
Its cold. Its loud. Its very clean air
midnight adder
nice
mild tapir
And its a lot of orange
midnight adder
amazon
mild tapir
They have custom rack solutions and Tbit root networking infra
Honestly the level of tech we were working with was amazing
midnight adder
how do the load balancers work? is all the traffic directed to a single load balancer or what?
mild tapir
Thats the beauty of it
Its all software defined networking
And heres the real kicker
You can use the RAM from another machine in the same rack on ... another machine
mild tapir
Actually EC2's are not VM's
mild tapir
they are hybrid containers
midnight adder
docker?
midnight adder
oh that'll be funny docker in a container
green inlet
✌🏻❤️🤢🌮🍌. Night night
peak cloud
Dockerception.
mild tapir
There is a whole OS built on that
peak cloud
Be careful, they might get sued by Jolly Rancher for using that name. 🙄
peak cloud
My company got used sued for using the name "Apple Rancher" for an e-Liquid flavor of ours. 😡
midnight adder
and if it's proprietary i really doubt it
mild tapir
Rancher is FOSS. Its container/k8s orchestration
unreal orbit
@peak cloud is vape juice your main line of work or a side gig?
peak cloud
@midnight adder It was a snarky remark, completely facetious. Candy flavors and OS flavors have nothing in common.
forest edge
I dunno if the internet is considered a fundamental right
mild tapir
@midnight adder My entire career is built on containers at this point. If you ever have questions, I am always open to them. Especially as you go down the rabbit hole
midnight adder
yep
peak cloud
@unreal orbit It was a side-gig for almost all of 2011, but then I finally quit my dev job at the beginning of 2012 to go fulltime on my business.
@midnight adder Wait until you experience Proxmox, if you're into that kinda thing. 😂
unreal orbit
Nice, what’s the name? I have friends that can send you some business
peak cloud
It's a KVM manager.
Also allows you to run LVM LXC (I think that's the correct term).
scenic radish
Moxprox
mild tapir
If you fully containerize your services though, I would just outright avoid these heavy virtualizations systems.
midnight adder
i've never played with docker and orchestration likes kubernetes, really not needed for my purposes (yet!)
yes yes
i think i'll be sticking to docker
peak cloud
I don't have much on it, it's a little weakling of a cheap NUC, and the second node is my MacBook Pro running Proxmox in VirtualBox on macOS.
I would never use the MBP node for production stuff, just for lightweight temporary stuff.
scenic radish
still probably faster than my $100 mini PC (which is already decently speedy)
mild tapir
@midnight adder Its also worth noting, there is a diff between Docker and "Containers"
Docker is a an engine built on containerd
mild tapir
My home lab has gotten out of control 😐
scenic radish
next person who says "dockers" instead of "containers" is getting permabanned
mild tapir
OOF
scenic radish
no lol
midnight adder
alright
mild tapir
I am with Tediore
scenic radish
well, not that i saw 😛
peak cloud
@mild tapir I didn't find it necessary to waste an entire machine to running just Hass.io with add-ons (that would go down if I had to restart the "host"), nor dedicate it to a Docker machine,.
scenic radish
searches history
unreal orbit
Rouing did though 
mild tapir
Properly though
peak cloud
I am strictly a consumer, I just started getting into a year or so ago.
@scenic radish Wait, what are dockers?
scenic radish
peak cloud
Ohhhh, dockers are the things that my Dockertron runs.
forest edge
||dockers||
mild tapir
I am running 57 Servers in my house. They are clustered with 1PB of Flash Storage as their shared storage and block storage. I think I have thrown away an insane amount of money at this point
scenic radish
with add-ons (that would go down if I had to restart the "host")
what do you mean by this @peak cloud ? addons keep running even if home assistant itself isn't running
peak cloud
@scenic radish Read it again.
peak cloud
@scenic radish If you go to Supervisor > System tab and click "Restart Host," do the add-ons stay running? 😉
midnight adder
so are you earning any money from this
mild tapir
Hahaha no
peak cloud
Exxxxaaaaaaaactly.
forest edge
mine do
scenic radish
@peak cloud well no, but that applies anytime you reboot a machine
peak cloud
I have too many other things that depend on MQTT, MariaDB, InfluxDB, NGINX, etc. I can't have my entire network go down when I restart the supervisor host.
mild tapir
I decided to buy many servers, a rack, and lots of other shit and stick it in my attic instead
i also have all my colocated machines
scenic radish
@peak cloud ah, got it
mild tapir
Yes, I had them installed
midnight adder
nice
mild tapir
They all have dedicated HVAC
scenic radish
in my case, it's the bedroom
midnight adder
^^
forest edge
which is the same as all other rooms seperated by a bed sheet amirite @scenic radish
midnight adder
not now but usually
mild tapir
Yeah my attic is cooled and sealed. I also have it up to code for living space
scenic radish
@forest edge what if i told you that condos can also have interior doors
forest edge
you had a portapotty installed?
mild tapir
Hah! Screw that. Proper bathroom, shower and bidet with running water and sewage duh
scenic radish
this might blow your mind sonoma, but i have two full baths
mild tapir
Ofc gotta have a TV in there too
forest edge
bathtubs? but why?
mild tapir
Gotta watch them Grafana graphs for when I am jerking off washing myself
midnight adder
lol
scenic radish
dunno, i didn't build the condos lol
unreal orbit
@scenic radish full of what?
scenic radish
HA
unreal orbit
Not sure how you’d fill a bath with Home Assistant
midnight adder
easy
mild tapir
Add an automatic valve and water level sensor?
forest edge
second bath is the size of a rpi
scenic radish
well based on how large sonoma thinks my condo is, my mini PC occupies 95% of the livable space
forest edge
well based on how large sonoma thinks my condo is, my mini PC occupies 95% of the livable space
@scenic radish haha
midnight adder
yes
scenic radish
mind you, $85K for a 1000 sq ft condo with two bedrooms and two bathrooms (one in the master bedroom) where i'm at is an absolute steal
obvi i have a mortgage though
unreal orbit
Bidet master race
scenic radish
$334/month lol
forest edge
I never said it was small, only said it only has 4 walls lol
scenic radish
some of us can only afford 4 walls dammit
forest edge
bed sheet ftw
mild tapir
Ah yeah. I just had hardwood installed. R8 my hardwood.
midnight adder
shiny
scenic radish
2/10
midnight adder
9/10
midnight adder
lol nice
scenic radish
fuck
unreal orbit
The rug really ties the room together
scenic radish
that's why it's 2/10 now
forest edge
I would end up jumping out the window due to only being one exit
mild tapir
I got one similar in my living room
scenic radish
1.5/10
forest edge
does anyone actually live in that house?
scenic radish
like arrested development
forest edge
shits too clean and organized lol
scenic radish
just be careful not to push the fridge through the wall into the garage
mild tapir
I keep shit clean af
I hate dirty living areas
There is one room that is so rarely walked in though
mild tapir
This room is pure looks
scenic radish
that's a ballin house though
mild tapir
I gots a pool too.... That no one uses :(
scenic radish
tear it out
forest edge
sell the house, get an apartment lol
scenic radish
i own 1.8% of the lawn outside my building
scenic radish
two, tyvm
forest edge
better go water it
scenic radish
spits on grass
done
mild tapir
Better automate that spitting
@scenic radish Thanks btw. I had it built to spec. It took a good while to get it how I want it but its sort of a pride and joy
scenic radish
no prob. my "pride and joy" so to speak with my current place would be that i painted all the trim, interior doors, and window trim white
mild tapir
I guess the white was to add a bit of bright to the rooms
scenic radish
it was brown before which didn't look good against gray walls
mild tapir
I hate dark trims personally
scenic radish
i dislike any trim that isn't white tbh
mild tapir
jfc, im 24 and I already sound like some old dad
mine isnt white but white with a very subtle amount of light almond added to blend with the walls
scenic radish
mine's glossy white
mild tapir
Never considered glossy. That doesnt annoy you when the light hits it?
mild tapir
💤
forest edge
the LG smartthings is trash
mild tapir
Yall have a good night. Im on call for today. Stay safe and wear a mask.
wet pilot
Semi-gloss is a bitch if your walls aren't perfect
scenic radish
How so?
wet pilot
Also temps and painting technique are important
forest edge
so I guess there was an update to thier app and because of that the HA integration couldn't connect to it and because nothing connected to the fridge it "forgot" the wifi info so I guess I have to reset it up
it's stupid, and certianly not something i'm going to do every time there is an update lol
wet pilot
Anything shinier than eggshell shows everything on your walls
scenic radish
The apartment I lived in before I bought this place had the shiniest off-white walls and ceilings
wet pilot
Gloss is good for wet rooms
scenic radish
Disgusting
forest edge
that's a southren term. wet rooms
wet pilot
Lol
scenic radish
I thought that's just a bedroom
forest edge
if you ever watch Tucker Carlson you would swear we were at the very beginning stages of the country turning out to be like that Idiocracy movie lol
hushed basalt
Running wireguard inside opnsense would be better than running it in a container right?
Let the firewall handle gateway duties, etc
hushed basalt
What a dumb adapter
How are you ever supposed to fit a plugpack in that
Damn europeans ruin everything! :D
pseudo glen
wtf has europe to do with that shitty product? 🙂
i mean they did ruin internet, but they did not do that atrocity of an adapter
hushed basalt
Because of their recessed round sockets
That's why the adapters have to round and deep to be legal
clever mortar
Makes it harder for idiots to short things
nimble rover
Ok, Tinker, I've been reading some of the questions you get on here.
You were not lying.
clear ferry
clever mortar
There's a quote about only two things being infinite...
forest edge
@clear ferry that is just messed up
clear ferry
forest edge
clear ferry
rare condor
My orange pi running zigbee2mqtt randomly has started to crash...hmmm.. no errors or kernel panics just outright stops working. Time to buy a new SBC I reckon. I kind of wish I could run it in VM but server placement is not ideal for zigbee usb 🤔
clever mortar
Active USB extension cable 😉
rare condor
I don't trust them, never had good luck with ones I have bought or HDMI extenders either
west moss
i've set up different vlans with firewall rules now on my unifi, hows the best way to test so everything is working as intended? to change my laptop from vlan to vlan and trying to ping other devices or is there simpler / better ways?
rare condor
setup a VM with several VLANs assigned to it
hushed basalt
Can you run multiple zigbee dongles in a failover configuration
rare condor
didn't think that was option with zigbee2mqtt?
hushed basalt
Not officially perhaps
But if the "state" isn't stored in the dongle itself,
You could in theory have multiple sticks on multiple containers/devices and have health checks on the primary.
So for example if the zigbee network disappears for 15 minutes disable container/device 1 and enable device 2 etc
rare condor
Its stored in the app would need to coordinate database, I don't think it has been done before.
hushed basalt
Having the same database in each container would be easy enough
I've just never been comforable with how there's no coordinator redundancy with zigbee
clever mortar
Or even rsync'd
clear ferry
That all participating boxes have access to
rare condor
I'm curious if anyone has done it?
clear ferry
Never heard of, but would be trivial
rare condor
rsync wouldn't be up to date which may not be an issue?
not sure, but centralised database would be preferred I suppose
rare condor
I would have to test it works but I think I might just buy the new TI chipset with crazy good range
and shove it into server with USB passthru
hushed basalt
The hardest bit would be getting it to mount usb on different devices
clever mortar
USB over IP would solve the stick problem
hushed basalt
True
rare condor
actually its just serial, I could go RS232
clear ferry
Not sure if the board is designed to give you those pins outside of usb
west moss
i wish shelly would start using esp32 rather than esp8266 😦 that shelly RGBW2 seems so nice but i just cant live with the highpitch whine when dimming esp8266
in esp8266 i need to set my frequencies at 220 Hz, 280 Hz, 160 Hz for RGB (one color per frequency) just to minimize the sound, but those low frequencies gives so bad colors :/
clear ferry
I dont notice any high pitch noise from any of my esp stuff but I don't have any very close to my ears either
clever mortar
Too many years in DCs without ear protection will do that to you 😛
rare condor
In Norway datacentres are silent and produce renewable energy
clever mortar
And unicorns, don't forget the unicorns
clear ferry
Well, my hearing is immculate according to the ear doctor, was last year because the wife said I had poor hearing, he just said I had selective hearing and the frequency range of a 25 year old 
I can still hear a failing hard disk from across a room I'll have you know
rare condor
My hearing is stuffed, years of clubbing reckted them fair dinkum, 'll be gone like sharons shelia when I am 30.
clear ferry
I've listened to speed metal and worse for 20+ years, on 11 on volume
No issues
Let's just say, when I'm in the office listening to music, people within a 5 meter radius is also listening to music
rare condor
Ah so your saying Norwegians have super human noise cancelling abilities thanks to superior healthcare?
clear ferry
Probably
rare condor
Every time I download a datasheet from siemens I have to sign a document saying I'm not a terrorist. Seems a bit ridiculous
brazen fable
@rare condor wat
rare condor
Its common place when downloading files from US based servers of industrial automation
Or in this case Siemens
brazen fable
Sometimes you just gotta scratch your head
clear ferry
But Siemens is German 
rare condor
yeah but they sell PLC gear in US
they operate internationally
big organisation
The funny thing is when you don't select the checkbox about terrorism or building weapons it lets you download the file anyway
brazen fable
Because a terrorist is gonna go "WHOOPS. CHECKBOX, CAN'T COMMITT THE TERRORISM NOW"
rare condor
legit its always a good laugh in the office
brazen fable
Yeah idk what I'd trust on a discount UPS
Never cheap out on power supplies TBH
Speaking of which i need to get new batteries for my UPS's soon 
rare condor
The PLC I am programming only supports signed integers 16bit, very annoying when dealing with 64bit floats 😑
clear ferry
Pssh, I've run cheaper ups than this for over 10 years with no issues
rare condor
agreed had two UPS fail always buy decent these days, i.e. not Eaton or APC
rare condor
Mine broke after 4 monthes
in fairness it started to work again and they sent me a new one 4 times the size
which is sitting in my garage
because I have no space for it
brazen fable
You know what's really funny is I have a UPS in almost every room because I keep my entire network on it
so by extension if the power goes out i'll have light in every room too lmao
clear ferry
We have so good consumer laws here I can get a new one without question up to three years after purchase, and 5 years if I fill out a form
brazen fable
because i plugged in lamps to my UPS
I just need my final phase to be built, but i have to decide on how i'm going to do it
I really want to go solar but that won't work too well 6 months out of the year here
so i might have to go natural gas as my backup power solution
brazen fable
Because if it snows I'll have no way of clearing the snow off the panels without a ladder and such. ANd quite frankly, fuck that
rare condor
Yeah solar sucks in Europe come to Australia
brazen fable
Lmao I'm in Chicago
clear ferry
Come to northern Norway, 24 hours of sun for 3 months a year
brazen fable
No offense to you, but I'd never live anywhere that isn't America
clear ferry
My whole roof with solar would be $14000 to install, the price of a 3 year old VW Polo
brazen fable
They want to tax my success too much, and not so much freedom in other countries
clear ferry
Muuuuurica
brazen fable
I just don't see a valid reason why the government should be able to take half of what I built. That's just not ok.
clear ferry
It's easy not to do it when 80% of your population can't get access to basic services or healthcare 
brazen fable
Huh
clear ferry
I exaggerated, but so do you, people who have small fortunes dont pay half their earnings in taxes, unless you are in Denmark, even I would pay 50% in Denmark
brazen fable
Which is dumb
I mean, in America you have to be at the top, top echelons in order to pay that much, and even then it's a progressive tax so it's more fair
west moss
@brazen fable its like that in sweden also, its not 1 fixed tax for everyone, its tax brackets, the more you make the higher tax bracket you are in
clear ferry
But you still have to pay for your surgery, no wait, you get it free if you have money ;-)
brazen fable
Except it's not free, in the long run unless you have chronic health problems it costs you more
west moss
and you dont need to worry about not beeing able to afford the sugery if you break a leg or something, also dont need to save money for your kids to get into school.. the government pay for your kids school
brazen fable
I don't have to worry about not being able to afford surgery either. That's a myth
west moss
so thats why there are like 1 million gofundme pages about people needing money for basic healthcare :D?
brazen fable
Because people are stupid
And they expect other people to pay for their lack of planning and irresponsibility with money
west moss
well, alot of people live on minimum wages, they cant realy plan or be much more responsible about it
brazen fable
no
west moss
they barley make enough to eat
brazen fable
less than 5% of people in America make min wage
brazen fable
and if they really applied themselves and tried, it'd be 0%
west moss
well thats bull, some jobs will always bee min wage, thats just how it is
nothing much you can do about it
brazen fable
True, but it'd be relegated to teenager and first time jobs, as it should be
or 2nd jobs for extra coin
west moss
id rather people get the help they need when they are injured tbh, even if it costs me
brazen fable
I'd rather not have to pay for other people's stupidity. There's far too many morons out there
People complaining about the cost of their insulin while they're shoving mcfatty's cheeseburgers and fries down their gullet
I'm sorry, but no
west moss
schools on the other hand im not that fond of, seeing as im never planing on having kids myself, but ah well, atleast it helps the country that people get educated
clear ferry
I make 3x what most people I know make, I still only pay 32% tax, I can live with that
west moss
yea, and the people you know taht makes 1/3 of you also pay like 25-30% so, its not like you are hugly punished
west moss
make more - earn more + pay more... feels kinda fair
clever mortar
And I suspect like in the UK the first "slice" of that is free of tax
clear ferry
Up to $9000 is tax free ish I think
clever mortar
£12.5K here
brazen fable
I think America's schooling is fine too, people are just stupid with it
clever mortar
Though the bands vary between Scotland and the rest of the UK
brazen fable
Paying for k-12 with taxes is perfectly fine to me
not everyone needs to go to college
Trade schools are a thing, and trademen are in high demand right now
but nobody wants to do it because it's not an office job, even though they pay very well
clear ferry
All school up to university is free here, except the $30 semester cost
brazen fable
Yeah, University = College in the U.S.
Post high school (12th grade) you are and should be, on your own
west moss
on college level we have to pay aswell, but the government covers some of it, then we have verry good loans with super low intrest for college
clear ferry
We have a seperate school that is college, which does other stuff than university, but it is just as free
brazen fable
Easy federally backed loans are why so many people are drowning in debt
I have a few friends, but one of them in particular spent 100k going to an expensive school, for an English degree
I asked him how he plans to make money with that degree
west moss
not realy, as the loans we need to take is like 1/50 of the loans you need for college level in us, + the intrest is like 0.000%
brazen fable
he shrugged his shoulders. Now he whines on facebook on how life isn't fair and he shouldn't have to pay his loans back
west moss
so the depts are not that hard to handle
clear ferry
Even if we max out loans for school, it is max $12000 a year, and the interest is so low noone cares
And with maxed out you live pretty well
Half of the loans are removed if you pass your classes too
dull chasm
while yall are on the subject .... i love these guys RSA Animate ....this is one of more intresting ones and another on education https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOP2V_np2c0&feature=youtu.be
west moss
how the schools are funded through the governemnt and such also makes the social gaps alot smaller, because there is not this giant difference in the quality of schools, and everyone has the right and is able to afford the education thanks to the (almost) intrest free loans
so it allows everyone to have a chance for education, not just those with rich parents
now with all that said, we do have some taxes that are just plain dumb, but for the most part, im all good with it, and i dont mind 30% tax at all
brazen fable
But not everyone is cut out for college.
west moss
true, and not everyone goes to it
brazen fable
And that's a lot of wasted resources
west moss
i for example did not
and if you dont go, you dont get the loans, you dont get the finnancial help for it either
but you do have the right to do it if you choose
brazen fable
I did, but I made my money before I went to college. I just went to college for the fun of it.
west moss
and noone is gonna tell ya you cant go couse your parents cant afford it..
brazen fable
I literally started a business from nothing and worked my way up the ladder with no formal education at all
west moss
makes it ALOT more fair, you get education based on what you want, not what your parents can afford,... you make your path in life, not your parents money
brazen fable
And that was before the age of information. You can learn and apply anything today. The information is all on the internet
west moss
if you wanna be a scientist you can do that, even if you are from a poor family
beeing judged in life before you're even born.. no thanks. not a system i like
brazen fable
And that generally doesn't happen here
west moss
Thats odd, couse its prettymuch how the entire world sees the us 😛
even most of USA itself sees it taht way
brazen fable
There are more opportunities for success in America than any other country on the planet
west moss
.. if you come from a rich family ya
clear ferry
brazen fable
Literal illegal immigrants come here, that shouldn't be here, with nothing. Literally nothing, and build successful lives for themselves