is the US the outlier in switches and whatnot?
#the-water-cooler
last dirge
clever mortar
You are a smaller market than China...
last dirge
most other countries seem to have that stuff kinda built into the wall plate
clever mortar
Mind so, so is most of the world
last dirge
most people are Asian
gloomy kite
most places are 240v too
lofty zealot
They now have/announced products that don't need a neutral wire and there is a US version. A new one
this are the specs for the Shelly Gas:
Power supply AC
110-230V ±10%, 50/60Hz
So it works for the US people
Both the new shelly dimmer and I3 also works with 110V
gloomy kite
i just want some of those modules that work with a toggle switch, rather than an intermittant pushbutton
orchid rose
Let's see if Shelly will actually bring out all of them. They announced a Dimmer SL about a year ago and it never came out. Looks like the dimmer2 will replace it
lofty zealot
Oh okay. haha we will see
fluid zephyr
@fluid zephyr We are excited to announce that TrueNAS 12.0 BETA has hit both the target date and our quality goals. The BETA release has completed two full cycles of QA (the same as FreeNAS 11.3 RC1) and testing from almost 1,000 users. There are no high priority issues and we can now recommend that the Community can upgrade their FreeNAS 11.3 systems and start their TrueNAS 12.0 testing.
@clear ferry I found it -- Shows up on my production server -- Looks like there is just no way to change trains on the nightly builds. So, do I dare be so bold ??
https://imgur.com/b9xRIkB
fluid zephyr
for you, anything !
Kinda takes the fun out of it though.... I already know how to fix it if I break it
clever mortar
fluid zephyr
Sorry, blame ixsystems for making it so easy to rollback
clear ferry
I've already upgraded to beta 1 
fluid zephyr
Figures today I have real life stuff to do... I'm gonna upgrade tonight
clever mortar
Today was quiet enough for me I finally got my home server updated to FreeBSD 11.4
I should go 12... but... eh
fluid zephyr
I'm thinking about switching my laptop to FreeBSD... or maybe move Arch to laptop and go FreeBSD on the desktop
clever mortar
If you're hardware is all supported... other than your hair what have you got to lose?
fluid zephyr
I don't even have much of that left to loose, so I guess nothing 😄
clear ferry
Hair, schmair
I'm more worried about my increasing hemmoroid count
For some reason some of the plugins I had installed failed startup after upgrading, they has devfs rulesets that didn't exist anymore
Just changed it to 4 and they automatically went to generated ones
Still have an issue about tunables failing with a sqlite error, so I have that on ixsystems Jira
unreal orbit
sqlite 🤢
clear ferry
Appears freenas uses it in the middleware somewhere
last dirge
JIRA 🤢
green inlet
Hemorrhoids 🤢
clear ferry
wet pilot
Jira is a fine product. Most companies screw it up with bullshit processes though
sqlite backend for something like that is...unfortunate
last dirge
most of my experience with JIRA is people trying to force it to work for agile development
wet pilot
if you're doing by the book agile it works well
last dirge
since when?
wet pilot
if you're doing some bastardization of agile like most people you have problems
last dirge
the last time someone tried it was when there was something required called something like greenhopper
and it sucked horribly
clear ferry
@wet pilot IT might just be for the tunable middleware, not sure how deep they use the sqlite
That is where I encountered the issue atleast
Sometimes I wonder if it is a requirement for children appearing on TV programs to have a speech impediment, seems like everyone has something, or is it because people think it is"cute" ?
hushed basalt
Phew factorio makes my cpu fan go brrrrr on my laptop
That's what I get for having no graphics card
Really really wish it had a TB3 4-lane port
Even the surface book 3 doesn't have one :/
dusky plank
@atx german STANDARDPROFIL detected on your keyboard
rare condor
Did 9 hours of wiring today, kind of sucks as I haven't programmed the Logic yet so no idea of the system works yet
bitter pawn
that does suck
rare condor
anyway had enough fibreglass insulation for one lifetime
bitter pawn
im sure there is a "your mom" joke in there somewhere.... xD
hushed basalt
But seriously though. I believe fibreglass will be the next asbestos crisis
clear ferry
clever mortar
"oops"
rare condor
Yeah I was wearing a mask but the crawl space got around 3cm bigger than my body and I had to leave the mask. Too many huntsmen spiders too 😒
seriously every couple of minutes I would have one crawl across my leg, one f*cker bit me when I was grabbing a joist to pull myself out
unreal orbit
"Australia is not that bad"
clear ferry
Australia 
rare condor
I have never been bitten before
clear ferry
Australia just wants to 
whatever you do
rare condor
how would you feel if a creature 200x your size tried to crush you?
unreal orbit
A creature 200x my size doesn't live in my attic
rare condor
in fairness it would have been crushed if it didn't bite me
clear ferry
The most dangerous thing we have in Norway is probably polish truck drivers, anything else is harmless
Especially since their European employees tell them they have to buy their own winter tires , and none of them can afford it then come here in the winter 
On slick summer tires
vestal reef
I'm looking for the best way to turn my mini pc running a clean install of ubuntu 20.04 into a chromium kiosk,,
there are tons of tutorials online but none of them seem to fully work and i've had te reinstall the os because of it.
could you guys point me in the right direction to get this working please ? I lack the knowledge to set this up by myself and when i turn to blindly following wrong instructions that will lead me nowhere
unreal orbit
What would we be doing besides giving you more instructions to follow blindly?
clear ferry
Why not run a already existing kiosk distro? 
vestal reef
didn't realise there were kiosk distros
@unreal orbit perhaps you guys could determine what would or would not work before I go and try it and break some sh`t
clever mortar
🤣
wet pilot
lol
clever mortar
All of this works - if you know what you're doing
vestal reef
will look into the kiosk distro path 😉
clever mortar
Google found me many
wet pilot
gentoo + x11 that only launches chromium
/evil
i did something less extreme but similar with arch once for XBMC
clever mortar
Just install BeOS and watch folks struggle to do anything anyway
rare condor
Ars reader 😛
scenic radish
COVID-19, now RIPPLE-20, what's next?!
rare condor
TempleOS is better
clear ferry
Teddi-21
rare condor
OS FROM GOD
clever mortar
I played with BeOS back in the day... then again I also played with OS/2
rare condor
btw thoughts on Apple locking bootloader so its impossible to run non signed OSs?
hushed basalt
Apple put notches in USB. Nothing they do surprises me.
wet pilot
basically "stop buying from bad vendors"
hushed basalt
rare condor
Well they set industry trends (i.e. headphone jacks), so I expect more computers to be locked down in future
wtf?
wet pilot
doubt it
wet pilot
the inconsistencies in OSX piss me off to no end. i would not purchase apple hardware with my own money
rare condor
I just hate how bad the battery life is with chrome
wet pilot
i have a Macbook pro for work because it was the best overall hardware available to me but it still constantly pisses me off
eh, that's a chrome problem in general
apparently the canary builds have a bit of a solution thanks to M$
my big beef with apple designed computers is their shit thermals
hushed basalt
I think wsl is way better than apples barstardarized unixy terminal
Oh and their thermals. My god
Mac don't care about professionals. Anyone who needs to use a CPU above 50% for more than 5 minutes
wet pilot
i'm tending to agree these days. but i had a choice between a mbp with i7 and 16gb ram or a super basic dell with an older i5 and 8gb ram
hushed basalt
Yeah their hardware choices are quite good
rare condor
I love my XPS moved from a MBP
hushed basalt
Multiple thunderbolt 3 ports
wet pilot
they have to though because they have to throttle the shit out of their CPUs
clear ferry
Apple and "industry standards" is a joke, they do something innovative every 10 years, the rest of the time they just do catch up or lawsuits
Introducing widgets
Hello 2009
clear ferry
Since jobs is dead they are just spinning out the same iPhone every few years with new cameras
And people go
hushed basalt
Jobs wasn't particuarly a prodigy though
unreal orbit
I like the OS (compared to Windows anyway), I like the hardware, I like the feel, but my god the thermals are so terrible
hushed basalt
He was just a deadbeat hippy who fell into a business opportunity
He wasn't tony stark or da vinci which some people think he is
orchid rose
Smart phone has been a pretty finished product for a while now and there's no innovation left really
wet pilot
i hate the OS because i use home/end all the damn time and it'll do random different shit in each different app
rare condor
what about elon?
wet pilot
also no consistent cue for which app actually has focus for when you start typing
you know, basic OS shit
unreal orbit
I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's a step up from Windows in a lot of ways as far as a notebook OS goes
hushed basalt
Elons definitely not tony stark
wet pilot
i disagree but that's personal preference
unreal orbit
Like not being designed to slow down to a crawl in 3 years
wet pilot
weren't they sued for that exact behavior?
unreal orbit
That was iOS and it wasn't due to a design flaw
hushed basalt
Besides the windows consumer experience garbage i think windows 10 is fantastic
clear ferry
Meh, I reinstall windows every 8-10 years, I've never had issues tbh
hushed basalt
8-10months you mean
unreal orbit
lmao, ah yes the old periodically reinstall the OS argument. Such a viable solution 🙂
hushed basalt
I reformat regularly
It's a sweep sort shine ritual if anything. Blank slate
There's nothing wrong with a fresh reinstall. I've had to do it for Mac plenty of times too.
clear ferry
My last desktop lived for 13 years, I reinstalled the os once, never had any major issues with it slowing down , I just did because I put an SSD in it
orchid rose
Windows 10 is pretty solid, but it does have it's problems and my biggest issue is that it doesn't really let you know what it's doing a lot of the time
shy comet
Honestly, I avoided using the logbook in the past because of the slowness it had. i wonder how true this statement holds for many of us
wet pilot
OSX and Windows 10 have the same QA teams (read: None)
wet pilot
i'm honestly thinking that Microsoft's end game with windows is to make it into a distro of Linux
shy comet
they have revolving teams its odd
wet pilot
they don't want to maintain their kernel anymore
shy comet
the developer can be the PM and vice versa
clear ferry
I'm pretty sure you are right @wet pilot
shy comet
developer, PM and tester take on each others role...really interesting way of doing things
clear ferry
When we got past windows server 2012r2 and above the server side has been actually usable too
2008 was a shitshow
unreal orbit
Except they still charge insane licensing fees
rare condor
wow someone in my class is called siri
clear ferry
Most public sector customers get almost anything for free @unreal orbit
Only reason they run Hyperv
rare condor
his/her life must be painful after 2012
clear ferry
@rare condor very normal Scandinavian name
rare condor
been a trigger word for a device is less than ideal
clear ferry
My sister is named Siri and has iPhone, she has never had issues with it 
orchid rose
I've never heard Siri being a scandi name. I would have guessed Indian 👀
rare condor
likewise
If I had a sister named Siri, I would always ask mundane questions like Hey Siri, what's the weather like? to annoy her 😛
clear ferry
It's a shortened version of Sigrid
orchid rose
ah, okay
clear ferry
Apparently
unreal orbit
Now that sounds Scandinavian af
clear ferry
13000 named Siri in Norway
unreal orbit
Half the country 
clear ferry
9500 in Sweden
orchid rose
So every woman then Villhellm?
unreal orbit
Seems like 🤣
clear ferry
900 in Denmark
clear ferry
900 in Finland @orchid rose
unreal orbit
awful
hushed basalt
Clickops. Clickops everywhere?
orchid rose
Interesting, I've never seen anyone atx
scenic radish
Windows server seems like an oxymoron
clear ferry
No wait, 171
hushed basalt
I'm glad I don't have to deal with powershell
hushed basalt
It's just so verbose
rare condor
windows server is just like windows with server stuff put on top
unreal orbit
Translation: bad
hushed basalt
I remember when I ran my server in a N40L with windows 7
rare condor
It runs all of Australia's Gas/Oil and Water Networks 🤷♂️
hushed basalt
I used to have to reinstall sabnzbd every couple of months
Just because something is common doesn't mean it's good
clear ferry
Ive seen a lot of public systems run on windows server.... Like NT4 and 2000 still in 2019 
hushed basalt
Such a godsend learning real linux
Even though my linux admin skills are very basic
clear ferry
@hushed basalt just move to freenas already and use plugins for stuff like that
hushed basalt
Config management and cli for life
Docker for lyfe
Heh
"It's worked fine so far"
clear ferry
Australia 
rare condor
I mean it crashes like one a month at massive expense but sure
hushed basalt
My intel NICs should get here next week
rare condor
10gig?
rare condor
you need to be prepared for the rollout of 10gig NBN in 2200
hushed basalt
I don't want to buy a switch and 4 10g nics yet
hushed basalt
I feel like Australia will get conquered before we get fttp
clear ferry
FTTH please
clear ferry
Sure we do, but dental services are free until you are 18, and heavily subsidized after that
rare condor
putting off $3000 bill to get wisdom teeth removed and jaw surgery, got quoted in Vietnam for $350AUD
considering just doing it overseas
clear ferry
I paid $200 to remove all four wisdom teeth
clever mortar
Paid for dental work 🤔
clear ferry
Or... I removed two for free before I was 19 and paid 200 for the other ones when I was 26
hushed basalt
Here it's,
Oh no you broke your arm. Come through we'll take care of that for you. It's every citizens right to receive public medical care
Oh no you chipped your tooth. That will be $3000. Why should we socialise this?
rare condor
I haven't assessed other options yet, but yeah even with my extras it will be $2000 out of pocket
unreal orbit
I had a lingual frenectomy when I had my wisdom teeth pulled. 0/10 would not recommend
hushed basalt
I paid about $3500 to get my wisdom taken out
I need to get a lot of dental work done though
Like major jaw surgery, braces
hushed basalt
I've been putting it off because its a lot of money and a lot of time incapacitated
clear ferry
The most expensive medical bill I've had was IVF, paid $1500 over a year for 7 attempts and all medications and visits
hushed basalt
I need to have my top palate cut in half and then have a spreader put in
Then they need to do braces
Then they need to break my jaw and extend it
rare condor
ooof
clear ferry
I think braces are full covered here even for adults if it's too bad
hushed basalt
Meanwhile the anaesthetist and surgeons can buy another yacht
static schooner
the least they could do is to give you a bionic jaw while they're at it
wet pilot
pregnancy through childbirth for my wife would have been about 15k but we have decent insurance and paid 0 out of pocket
clear ferry
Seen a lot of 40+ people with braces lately
static schooner
"we have the technology..."
rare condor
wtf is with anaesthetists charging $1500?
wet pilot
insurance for the practitioner
hushed basalt
Because they're in demand I guess
clear ferry
@wet pilot we paid $40 for 5 days in the hospital in our own room, plus the birth, and I paid$20 in parking
unreal orbit
You could ask Drzzs
rare condor
I should have got into medicine, I mean I hate people and bodies but you know
I like yachts and drinking gin so?
wet pilot
Boat == Break out another thousand
orchid rose
I'm sure that's most of the life of a doctor
hushed basalt
Sell a startup for $100m to Google
Then you can buy a bigger yacht
And shadow them in the harbour
clear ferry
Very few doctors make a ton of money in Norway, what happens when you don't capitalize on sick people 
🇺🇸
orchid rose
plastic surgery is where it's at from what I've heard
wet pilot
oh yeah, cause thats almost all elective
hushed basalt
Last time I was in a plastic surgeons office
The magazines in the waiting room had ads for private jets
orchid rose
Sounds about right
clear ferry
Lol
hushed basalt
I have little tolerance for the type of people who spend $100k on italian marble for their ensuite
orchid rose
How did your nose turn out btw?
hushed basalt
Well he did it 3 times so maybe I'm unlucky or hes shit
hushed basalt
Quiet tedi
scenic radish
@hushed basalt whew, I only use Italian marble in my guest bathroom
unreal orbit
@clear ferry I don't even want to know what server you got those from
clear ferry
hushed basalt
??
clear ferry
scenic radish
@clear ferry likes feet
clear ferry
orchid rose
They are nice to have tbf
clear ferry
unreal orbit
they do help me not fall down 👍
rare condor
hmmm... Australian strawberries suck 😦
scenic radish
Austrawlianberries?
rare condor
I wanted fruit but meh
unreal orbit
inb4 atx brags about the majesty of Norwegian strawberries
rare condor
Lol
clear ferry
You mean my 16 strawberry plants?
rare condor
I swear either norway is a utopia or atx drinks too much because its too cold 😛
clear ferry
I never have time to drink
unreal orbit
Too much time spent enjoying the utopia
clear ferry
rare condor
You told me yesterday you spend as much on Personal Cloud Storage as drinks per DAY
clear ferry
Soda pop, sure
unreal orbit
Playing the middle way of pop vs soda
orchid rose
such an american term
hushed basalt
I didn't drink soda for like 8 years
unreal orbit
Which one?
hushed basalt
I'm hooked again
orchid rose
soft drink is what I meant
rare condor
Its like people who say "truck" when they mean ute
hushed basalt
It's incredibly addictive
wet pilot
we don't have UTEs here
unreal orbit
wtf is a ute
rare condor
Or semi when they mean lorry
wet pilot
think el camino
hushed basalt
Soylent green is people
orchid rose
I've never heard the word ute, but that makes sense now that I googled it
unreal orbit
lmao I would never call an el camino a truck
hushed basalt
Time for bed
orchid rose
Do you put ute nuts on those?
rare condor
Its only 2:51am?
hushed basalt
Only in the east
hushed basalt
I have living alarm clocks
unreal orbit
My bed time is 12 hours away 😦
clear ferry
Ute = outside in Norwegian, and a common German female name
rare condor
The reason I am up actually is because I have food poisoning
hushed basalt
Should of avoided the strawberries
rare condor
I have been throwing up a lot over last 3 hrs
hushed basalt
It's no fun
rare condor
nope
clear ferry
Food poisoning, that is some third world stuff
hushed basalt
I had something like that last year
unreal orbit
Or for people who eat raw meat
rare condor
It was likely the chicken at red rooster, tasted too chewy
rare condor
yeah
hushed basalt
So who knows how long those chickens are there for
unreal orbit
@clear ferry not all of us are half sabertooth tiger
rare condor
I got it from a mate while I was in crawl space today
clear ferry
🐯
hushed basalt
I pretty much avoid red rooster id it's not peak time
orchid rose
Is chicken as popular in Australia as it is in the US?
rare condor
Does that help?
rare condor
I was just going to have hydrozone and lots of water tonight then sleep as soon as I stop feeling sick
clear ferry
We eat very little chicken in Norway, but I eat it a lot when I go abroad, especially in the UK
rare condor
taco bell is pretty popular near me and maccas but taco bell is fairly new in aus
hushed basalt
$40-$50 for 2 people for 1 meal each
rare condor
yeah takeaway getting pricy
rare condor
a normal burger (not gross bun) with real meat is what like 12bucks in a meal?
unreal orbit
y'all are making me hungry
rare condor
really big macs that $$ these days
clear ferry
Takeaway has always been pricey in Norway, me and the wife eat sushi for $60-70 every time we eat
rare condor
I have a lot of wraps from maccas, total rip off
like $9 each and tiny single piece of chicken
Needs to cook more, and buy less off chicken :/
hushed basalt
clear ferry
We do takeaway maybe 2-3 times a month if I work a lot of overtime, if not maybe 1 time per month
hushed basalt
Even considering the gluten free buns, the vegan cheese and the bacon
This is still cheaper than a big mac
rare condor
fan of everything but tomato
clear ferry
My tomato plants wants to have a chat with you
rare condor
I am just lazy when it comes to real life stuff, like buying food, finding shelter and considering future.
clear ferry
hushed basalt
But you pay a lot for very little and makes you feel fat and bloated afterwards
clear ferry
I think I haven't had McDonald's in over a year now
rare condor
I was going to start gym again, but now in lockdown
clear ferry
Inb4 @scenic radish red robin
hushed basalt
Now I'm hungry
scenic radish
Red Robin's good too
rare condor
I am just feeling more sick tbh, thinking about food is making me feel worse
ah Red Robin's a chain I never heard of
clear ferry
Stop eating food in third world countries @rare condor
rare condor
NEVER, It only cost me 2 million dong
unreal orbit
Dang. I was gonna get some Popeyes tendies in honor of Tedi, but they charge $6.99 for delivery 
rare condor
Popeyes?
rare condor
like the cartoon?
clear ferry
rare condor
oh its fast food
unreal orbit
Having things delivered is an American stereotype now? I can't keep up
rare condor
Do you guys have chatime?
rare condor
AMERICAN intensifies!!
clear ferry
@unreal orbit food delivery is quite rare here, probably because they have always charged like $15 for it
unreal orbit
Most places are a couple bucks or free now
rare condor
I have more buuble tea stores than servos or supermarkets where I live
clear ferry
We have always picked up take out since I was a kid
rare condor
I found drive thru banks realy werid, when I was in States. Also sport and guns.
unreal orbit
drive thru pharmacies are amazing, especially during a pandemic
rare condor
I did like free refills
Also tipping and waitresses rubbing your leg, I was disturbed.
clear ferry
Just flatten the curve, no need for drive through pharmacies 
Tipping is always something that takes me a day to get used to
rare condor
The last thing I want on a meal is some rando rubbing my leg
unreal orbit
yeah... that's not normal
rare condor
Its painful in groups oh and state tax
I just want to pay and leave not take a maths quiz and judge personal traits to how much tip I should leave
unreal orbit
It's not like it's difficult math
clear ferry
It's usually on the check, but it feels forced and unnatural for most countries
unreal orbit
I get that part
rare condor
@unreal orbit You sure this was in iHop in Denver, waitress kept sitting next to me asking what Australia is like and rubbing leg. My team were all like wtf?
Also spent 5 minutes showing different maples sauces
unreal orbit
I've literally never had that happen. You got a bumpkin-ass waitress
clear ferry
I usually do the minimum tip, unless someone actually paid genuine attention to me, and wasn't just being obnoxiously American customary
unreal orbit
what do you consider the minimum?
tidal bronze
18% would be the rock bottom
rare condor
like why do you need a lifted ute 10meters high with side mirrors the size of a window
unreal orbit
Because our roads were designed with cars in mind, not horses with carts
so our cars fit the roads
unreal orbit
you think that's excessive, you should visit Utah. Some of their residential streets are like 40 meters wide
rare condor
gets you there without burning the equiv of a coal factory
clear ferry
@unreal orbit never leave less than 5%
unreal orbit
5% is sometimes considered worse than not tipping
clever mortar
Biggest laugh I had in the US was an oversized pickup that had a mini pickup on the bed...
clear ferry
It makes a statement, that it was shitty service tbh
tidal bronze
If bad service best not tip. If tipping do it the right way
unreal orbit
As much as it sucks, tips are integral to the salary of wait staff here. Imagine getting paid less in other jobs if you had a bad day
clear ferry
That would be the Japanese way, tipping is not polite
wet pilot
wait staff still have to get a floor of minimum wage after tips
unreal orbit
Not in every state
bitter pawn
wow i missed alot in here. xD
static schooner
excellent service is expected in Japan
wet pilot
federally they do
clear ferry
Imagine basing salary on tips
wet pilot
their "hourly" might be less than minimum because of tips but they still have to make minimum wage after tips
unreal orbit
Oh you mean a minimum as in tips + wage must equal minumum, then yes.
rare condor
@unreal orbit sure but my best friend's gf complains that a good looking staff member gets paid $400 in tips per shift while she gets $60, thats wrong, food as a service should not be a competition regarding sex appeal
wet pilot
yes
mild tapir
Lifes a bitch
rare condor
Doesn't have to be as bad
bitter pawn
its also expected in japan to see spray tans in the akihabara district.
mild tapir
When it comes to services industry, thats on the customer to decide
rare condor
make things better
mild tapir
The best option would be to completely remove tips
rare condor
yes
We don't do tips in Aus (AS A REQUIREMENT)
If you try and tip, a lot of people turn you down
unreal orbit
Some restaurants do remove tips
orchid rose
Didn't Mythbusters even test if bigger boobs = bigger tips? (and they did iirc)
static schooner
they're coming back, unfortunately
rare condor
they did
static schooner
the tip-free movement is failing
unreal orbit
Because shitty people don't want to pay what the service is actually worth
rare condor
Also get rid of your guns while your at it
mild tapir
get rid of your guns
static schooner
it's an illusion, because they aren't really paying more, just differently
rare condor
In Aus we had them until late 80's then we made law to prohibit them without license and outside shooting range
mild tapir
Touch my guns ill load you up so full of lead you will gain 100 lbs on the scale.
rare condor
Is that really how you feel?
unreal orbit
yeah... I would not die for my guns lol
mild tapir
Yes, yes it is.
mild tapir
our gov't is currently the most corrupt its ever been
And without the risk of running into push back
rare condor
btw mods is this too political?
mild tapir
they wouldve already taken every right we had
scenic radish
yeah we're getting close to the line if we already haven't gotten there
mild tapir
C#
scenic radish
python
orchid rose
spaces or tab?
scenic radish
🤢
unreal orbit
a proper IDE that makes that question irrelevant
green inlet
I used to be in the service industry. Most waiters and waitresses are low paid and trying to make a living. I give 20% no matter the service
rare condor
comments in mixed languages and in middle of code
mild tapir
2.13 an hour right?
unreal orbit
@green inlet 15% is my minimum, but mostly same
rare condor
0% is my max
mild tapir
Depends where you are.
scenic radish
i almost always tip 20% or $5, whichever is higher
green inlet
Sounds like you need to wait a couple tables @rare condor
mild tapir
In the united states, that makes you an asshole. Everywhere else, thats the correct answer
unreal orbit
On average my tips are more like 25-30%. 15% is basically like the waiter ignored us the entire time or something
green inlet
Oh, and if you are taking a survey, I would throw in an extra 5.00 for boobs 🤣
rare condor
Also I worked in Retail for 5yrs, I know how stupid general public is
mild tapir
I would totally prefer to put my order on some tablet computer and pick it up myself so I didnt have to pay for tips personally
Tips to the cooks
In beer form
scenic radish
@green inlet hi it's me ur waiter
mild tapir
Or methamphetamine since thats what most cooks do here anyways
unreal orbit
Tablets in restaurants are disgusting. They always have nastiness on them
green inlet
Just kidding. I seriously just double the tax and round up no matter who is serving me
rare condor
anyway I feel out numbered, I should leave before you guys start discussing NASCAR and Burger King
mild tapir
Ew Fast Food
green inlet
Yea, the only fast food I eat is chik-fil-a, Taco Bell, and zaxbys
mild tapir
^ some areas with no state income and negative food tax vary
tidal bronze
Usually don't travel to locations that's lower that 9.5 tax 😀
tidal bronze
I do travel a lot but it's generally around 9%
unreal orbit
How is that working out?
mild tapir
Idiots are still dying left right and center because they cant wear a mask properly.
So it aint
green inlet
California == Jack-in-the-box
tidal bronze
Huh
green inlet
You don’t know Jack in the box?
unreal orbit
yeah...
tidal bronze
Seen it
tidal bronze
Don't do fast food so don't know much
green inlet
And Rubios.
tidal bronze
Rubio's lobster burrito good.
unreal orbit
If I'm gonna get mexican food I'm not gonna go to a chain
mild tapir
^
green inlet
Rubios fish tacos good
mild tapir
I love me some Whataburger
green inlet
Oh man. Whataburger
mild tapir
Whataburger, Panda Express, and Chick-Fil-A (Sometimes Rasin Caines) are my top picks if its fast food
green inlet
They had the best chicken sandwiches
unreal orbit
Before the pandemic some of our neighbors would setup a little taco stand at the edge of our neighborhood. So good 🤤
mild tapir
I miss our farmers market 😦
green inlet
Yea, in California I wouldn’t go to a chain for Mexican food either
Carne asada burritos.
The ones the size of your head
I miss those
tidal bronze
You mean wet burritos
green inlet
Fed ex me one
tidal bronze
Shrimp tacos from last night
mild tapir
They would throw it through your window
Like they did my door 😠
They keep avoiding me now and refusing to pass my calls on. I think I might have to go to small claims court to get the cost of my obliterated door back 😐
tidal bronze
@green inlet no burritos down there?
green inlet
There is, but not like San Diego/LA Mexican.
I always look for the salsa bar with the pickled jalapeños, carrots, and onions. If I see that, decent shot at being ok. And horchata.
mild tapir
Thats super specific lol
tidal bronze
Yep pickled carrots is a good sign if they are not from the damn can
mild tapir
I never thought of using a salsa bar as a ratings system
green inlet
Yes, but in California, it is kind of a standard
tidal bronze
Roasted pepper hot sauce as well 🙂
clear ferry
You müricäns and your tips and taxes
unreal orbit
Have any of you tried banana curry pizza?
green inlet
Oh my....no...
mild tapir
Uh... what
green inlet
But now I want too
tidal bronze
nopes. Don't touch anything with banana in it.
green inlet
At first I read banana pepper pizza
clear ferry
🐒 🍌
mild tapir
Its the "curry" and "Banana" combo that has me worried
clear ferry
I only eat bananas in snacks or desserts, not dinners
unreal orbit
apparently it's popular in Sweden. I made one at home the other day. Actually not bad
green inlet
So many jokes there
tidal bronze
lol
mild tapir
his PFP says it all /s
bitter pawn
im looking at this ubiquiti edgeswitch ES-12f that we are getting rid of from my company
brand new in-box
can someone tell me why the fu** they are going for $225+ on ebay?
its gigabit only.
mild tapir
Edge gear is currently 1:1 resell value
low harness
True. You should not trust anything I say. Especially this.
mild tapir
The fact he throws a paradox out is proof alone
bitter pawn
lolz xD
mild tapir
low harness
Oh! Are you talking about banana curry pizza?
bitter pawn
naw yer mom's used panties on ebay.
low harness
Throw some peanuts on there too and it’s perfect!
mild tapir
On the pizza or panties?
clear ferry
Fecking swedes
clear ferry
I'll take two
green inlet
Where can I find banana curry pizza in the us?
Is this something I am going to have to make on my own?
Or google foo?
@bitter pawn , i was just outbid on a pair of mom’s used panties 🤔
low harness
If you do it yourself, just be aware that curry means curry powder (masala, I think, lots of turmeric).
mild tapir
@bitter pawn , i was just outbid on a pair of
mom’s used panties🤔
Yes officer, this comment right here.
low harness
But if you want the real Swedish pizza, that’s definitely the kebab meat one. With or without french fries (yes, ON the pizza).
bitter pawn
so just checking, the consensus is we have no clue why these switches are going for $225+ on ebay other than they have good resell value
orchid rose
Do you put mayo on pizzas in Sweden?
mild tapir
I totally love the taste of vomit in the morning. Thank you for that
brazen fable
Fuck they found me
orchid rose
Kebab and mayo, omnom
mild tapir
Vietnam Farmers: Awh not again
low harness
No, but sometime bearnaise sauce. Goes great with beef pizza.
orchid rose
I've seen that here too, but the beef tends to be too chewy so I usually get something else
low harness
On kebab pizza I personally prefer garlic sauce.
orchid rose
Can't go wrong with that
mild tapir
Someone figured out the intercom DISA code at our local elementary school is 1234 it seems.
They are broadcasting a loop of music 😐
green inlet
Mayo is the best condiment in the world, hands down.
Unless peanut butter is a condiment, then Mayo is second
unreal orbit
@low harness I made some banana curry pizza at home the other day because I wanted to give it a shot. I was actually surprised at how good it was 👍
apparently adding ham is also recommended. Gotta try that next time
scenic radish
lounge getting real weird lately
mild tapir
From your mothers used panties, mayo and bananas on pizza, all the way to Vietnam flashbacks.
At what point do we hire a licensed therapist to maintain presence in the channel?
green inlet
Errr.....I have been broken for a while. Nothing a licensed therapist can do 🤣
I tired, she ended up on the couch and me in the chair 🤷🏼♂️
@unreal orbit , did you make your own crust?
unreal orbit
Nope. I'm far too lazy for that
green inlet
Perfect. I guess grocery store?
unreal orbit
Yup, Vons crust
green inlet
Hmmm....ok. We don’t have Vons. Going to have to do some googling. What recipe did you use?
unreal orbit
We usually shop at Aldi, but we go to Vons for the stuff we can't find there
for the banana pizza?
green inlet
Yes sir
unreal orbit
It's literally just a cheese pizza with sliced banana and curry powder
nothing fancy
green inlet
👍🏻
unreal orbit
I followed the crust instructions for the cooking part
something like 450 for 12 minutes or something
green inlet
So I could just get a New York style cheese pizza and add banana and curry power and put it in the oven for about 15 minutes.
unreal orbit
Yeah I thought of doing it that way too
green inlet
I am even lazier
unreal orbit
I wanted to at least say I "made" the pizza
mild tapir
Nice greenhouse
mild tapir
I feel you on that. My "Fringe" automation is Fish Tanks
I like that wood flooring tho
clear ferry
You should talk to @dull chasm
mild tapir
I am using water level sensors and mains hookup + sewage hookup with 12v sprinkler valves to automate water changes.
green inlet
Tomato samiches in your future.
clear ferry
I'm leaving for a three week vacation in half a week though, hopefully they will survive while I'm gone
@unreal orbit
mild tapir
I need a pic of that light fixture
clear ferry
The IKEA light?
mild tapir
Its an IKEA light? ooo
low harness
Both of them are
clear ferry
light trout
Paint it like the deathstar
clear ferry
I bought 2 IKEA majorna lamps too, going to do a ws2812 hack with them, they were only $5 each
mild tapir
What a view
clear ferry
I had a corner room view like that in Atlantic city once
trail crag
the majorna lamp was $5?
orchid rose
That lamp looks pretty cool
trail crag
lol I was just thinking..."must be the returns section"
trail crag
oh I always go there...just rarely find anything
and I'm always looking for open-box stickers at microcenter 😛
last dirge
man, stacking up 2 quarters of estimated tax payments plus annual tax payments is a huge blow to the ol' savings account
@light trout gimme a second, got a picture for you
unreal orbit
If you don't have a fixed salary you have to do estimated payments
clear ferry
Wtf
last dirge
@light trout
light trout
Cool!
last dirge
my friend had the lamp and found those little die cast models
orchid rose
I almost bought one of those to mod for HA 😄
last dirge
they have a little hole on the bottom meant for a display stand
clear ferry
We pay either a fixed percentage, or by tables, it makes sense to me to pay tables because my salary can be 1x month y and 2.2x month w, while people who don't do overtime or other stuff usually pay the fixed rate, most people end up with a balance of 0 or get money back in the end
last dirge
so I 3d printed some brackes so it'd look like they were flying around the death star
light trout
Was thinking more like this https://images.app.goo.gl/a3mmLb3aVpp7j2sq5
last dirge
that's a lot more involved
there's a version of that lamp that's almost twice as large
reverse money printer go brrr
clear ferry
Also fuck the horse guy in Sekiro @unreal orbit
unreal orbit
He's not so bad. The bull, however... 🖕
clear ferry
I haven't struggled this much with a boss since the ice king in ds2
clear ferry
I liked the lore in ds2 a lot
unreal orbit
it's a form of garbage development
clear ferry
clear ferry
Gif Bloodborne kart
green inlet
Quarterly taxes aren’t about fixed salary. It’s about self employment.
unreal orbit
tomato tomato
green inlet
I just made tomato tomatoe cucumber salad
unreal orbit
My mom used to make that a lot
green inlet
It’s one of our throw downs
The next day it is great on fresh spinach with chicken salad
scenic radish
If you don't have a fixed salary you have to do estimated payments
@unreal orbit the general rule (at least for federal tax) is that you have to make estimated tax payments if you expect to owe more than $1,000 for the year in tax after withholdings. it's a little more complicated than that, but that's the gist of it
unreal orbit
I'm a single W-2 boi, so I don't worry about it too much
scenic radish
basically if you only have a job/jobs that withhold tax from your paychecks and don't have any other sources of income where tax isn't withheld you probably won't have to make estimated payments
green inlet
The long and the short of it is estimated tax payments suck your mothers used panties
scenic radish
you really have a way with words @green inlet
unreal orbit
Not a good way, but it sure is a way 🤣
green inlet
I am typically only bringing earlier conversations full circle 😉
last dirge
@scenic radish you also have to make estimated payments if you didn't have enough withholding the prior year
well, you don't HAVE to you just get penalized for underpayment
clear ferry
Your taxes are so weird
mild tapir
@last dirge I feel your pain
last dirge
no free lunch for the IRS
mild tapir
When you wire up a new socket and find out it needs oversized plate because paint
Grrrr
mild tapir
Yussss I am not the only one who waits until literal last hour
unreal orbit
@clear ferry they are complicated on purpose
clear ferry
We just let the government do our taxes, and get money back usually
unreal orbit
Well that's stupid. We let private corporations dictate our tax laws so we have to buy their software every year
🇺🇸
mild tapir
cries in freedom
mild tapir
Yeah its pretty stupid. Feds had to step in on their charging for "premium" options that shouldve been free by current laws
last dirge
scenic radish
@last dirge yep, that was part of the "it's a little more complicated than that"
I used to work in tax
green inlet
Hold on, you let the government you have to pay, tell you how much you owe and then just pay it?
clever mortar
That's how it works in the UK, but our tax system is much simpler than the US one
unreal orbit
and get money back usually
clever mortar
Not that the UK tax system is simple though 😄
last dirge
refund, you say?
unreal orbit
Either way the government is deciding how much you have to pay. It's just whether they can fine you for doing math incorrectly
green inlet
🤷🏼♂️. I guess. It just seems different I guess
Like, do they provide their calculations or just a number 🤣
green inlet
And everyone hates property taxes. Like. How the heck did you get that value for my house?? But I guess on income, they know how much you make.
mild tapir
My property taxes are bullshit. I hate them
green inlet
I guess everything is just a standard deduction.
mild tapir
They inflate the shit out of them
green inlet
It’s all good. @clear ferry , got some strawberry jam and looking for brown cheese to try Norway waffles. Then Swedish banana curry pizza
mild tapir
I challenge my Property Tax Evals every year and I love how the county gives me a middle finger
My current eval is sitting at $484K when its actually ~$425K. angre
forest edge
maybe they are doing.. 🖕 moment please
mild tapir
Oh right your challenge is legit. We meant to add an extra 15K on top!
forest edge
gloomy kite
this day in history, 9,000 years ago. Some babylonian called himself king, and created property taxes.
20 minutes later, someone said that was bullshit and started complaining
forest edge
the people who harass you and threaten to take away your stuff have to be paid to do that somehow
gloomy kite
the price of admission for civilization
green inlet
I am all for property taxes. Just don’t inflate my house price to get them. I did the same thing one year. Challenged them. They did the same thing. Oh, the builder didn’t tell us your basement was finished, your house just went up 10k more. Thanks for stopping by.
gloomy kite
sounds about right. sometimes the best thing you can do is shut up and put your head down.
forest edge
you can always challenge it, you just gotta find more people around you who feel the same
mild tapir
Half my neighborhood has tried
green inlet
I subscribe to the shut up and put my head down theory now. Been working a treat.
forest edge
well you are not US right?
forest edge
I subscribe to the shut up and put my head down theory now. Been working a treat.
@green inlet till that one year it goes up over a grand lol
@mild tapir was thinking you were au for some reason lol
tough igloo
Au as in Austria?
scenic radish
🩸
forest edge
Australia
tough igloo
Or the land down unda
scenic radish
Straya
tough igloo
Nice. Straya is where it’s at
clear ferry
tough igloo
We love barbies and wearing our thongs everywhere
gloomy kite
CONUS too. thats why i keep animals, and lock everything down in a conservation covenant
mild tapir
Ive considered that idea. Keep chickens and get the tax bonus
forest edge
you ciould start your own church out of your own home lol
mild tapir
Church Farm
gloomy kite
most places you can't keep just chickens, unless you're documenting the buy/sell process of them
i know in GA, you have to at least show that you're attempting to run a farm (even if you lose money because you're bad at it)
forest edge
The Church of Smart Home Designa
mild tapir
All hail our lord and saviors: Z-Wave and ZigBee, Sons of X10
green inlet
@clear ferry , Amazon has it. But is it just goat cheese or something different?
forest edge
brown cheese comes from well.. you know the backside..
green inlet
Fromunda cheese
clear ferry
mild tapir
May Home Assistant guide us to the light and lead us to salvation
forest edge
Sprouts here sells it, i may havve the woman get some just to try
and then record my vomit reaction for atx lol jk
forest edge
@clear ferry lol that video looked pretty spot on
clear ferry
Nøkkelost is an AQUIRED taste for sure
vapid gulch
hi guys... there was a guy doing HA video from a boat a few months ago, now can't find it anymore... he had very good tutoriales, and his youtube channel had an italian name, something like "navigare" something, can't remember now... anyone knows his YT channel name? thanks
tidal bronze
Still waiting for that candy. No cool
compact swift
Hi, So i got HassOS 4.10 running. And want to replace a second machine which is running only plex at the moment. The amazing Frenck built a the great addon for Supervisor which works. Now the issue i run in to is storage. I know usb drives are not an option and also a NAS/SMB shares are out of the question.
I am running on a Intel NUC, and thought to be smart and added a m.2 disk as boot and added a 500gb disk SATA. My goal is to use the second disk (sata) as a datadisk for motioneye and plex. But on all the forums out there and the change of name of the OS i cannot seem to find out what i need to do and on which end to make the disk visible to HassOS/the addon.
Any one who can guide me or give directions? What i tried so far is try to see the disk in the terminal addon but i only get this df -h output. Also i tried to disconnect the sata SSD and reconnect. The DMESG on the HDMI screen of my NUC shows it sees the disk and should be found on SDA.
I am a bit new on the docker part so might be i am missing info on that part.
Also tried to login on the physic console of the nuc, but i am limited with the commands.
Thanks in advanced !
scenic radish
compact swift
#330990055533576204
@scenic radish
Hi, do you mean i need to post in a other topic? Thanks
mild tapir
Cant fight copy paste
Really gonna give a Sr Solution Arch and Cloud Operations Engineer access to something like this? What did you expect rofl.
Thankfully cant login to the root proxmox env else it would be toasted
clear ferry
forest edge
Durkan is going to be the new slang for mistake lol
pure knot
a HUGE W00HOO! To all the logbook and histroy performance changes.. AMAZING!
wet pilot
Don't kink shame
hushed basalt
It's so common in Aus
wet pilot
😛
hushed basalt
So dumb.
hushed basalt
Who wants their master bedroom a few meters away from the footpath with some cheap aluminimum windows and crappy vertical blinds all that seperate
I'd say almost half the new constructions of that type have it though
Same thing here
@rare condor look at this haha
mild tapir
My master bedroom is segregated furthest from all traffic sides for noise reasons.
Screw that design there
dull chasm
@mild tapir you have to really have to step up on the fishtank automations ....
tidal bronze
🤔
mild tapir
I got Ferts, Chems, Water, Ph, Gh, Kh controls, Lights, Water Leak Detection....
What else do I need?
Ich detecting AI that deploys meds >:D
dull chasm
no damn way there is nothing to detect ich
mild tapir
I was thinking some high def cam that looks for visual symptoms
dull chasm
well you said you had ?
mild tapir
Oh I was saying that as a suggestion
The top line is all I have already
That bottom piece was a /s
dull chasm
fish are really simple .... keep it as close to what god created .....
i do water changes but they are slow and balanced like nature and account for evapuration
dull chasm
no no no ....... it is as close to what a stream/river or ocean envoriment would do ....not based on a schedule ...... i have one file that is 1500 lines that is just dedicated to lights/ph and a nature change
mild tapir
My only real problem I have had over the course of the past 5 years so far is evaporation.
CBA. Fish Happy, Low Maint, and my 11 year old pleco is still alive.
Big boi lookin old tho
dull chasm
well thats good ....my lights change based on time of day ..... pumps cycle based on winds of location and evap and and water change is at a minu
mild tapir
I dont use wave pumps. Too small of tank would agitate the fish. My lights are on a 24 hour cycle tho.
That being said, I do have thunderstorm cycles based on local location
dull chasm
see fish need a natura cycle of waves and lights that mimic nature ......you can have millions of dollars and it does not matter ...you are holding in captivity a animal ....
mild tapir
Wave Pumps are generally just to keep water moving to prevent stagnation and allow for air/water exchange.
They get really agitated and show it when I have pumps enabled. Even if its running at 15% power
dull chasm
well you dont understand the hobbie well enough then
mild tapir
Guess 11 years isnt enough to understand? I get my advice from the dude who built the Georgia and Houston Aquarium. PhD in Marine Biology. He helped me design it.
He runs my LFS
I aint about to agitate my fish into attacking each other
Thats animal abuse
I aint for that
dull chasm
well you are 24 .....i have been doing longer than you have been alive ...but whatever ...you can brag about your money ....all i care about is making the fish close to thier natural envorioment as possible
mild tapir
Woah... wtf
Who said shit about money in relation to aquariums?
Im going to end this conversation as I dont engage in such toxicity. Thanks.
dull chasm
cool np .... i never wanted any problems
maybe i overreacted .....if i did i am the first the say sorry .....but shit ....i have been raiseing fish for 35 years and have always considered them to be pets that i dont want to be abused ...maybe i took things the wrong way ...shit has been crazy lately
last plaza
You raise fish as pets? Some people see them as cattle.
It is a cloud joke. It is okay if you don’t understand. 🤓
green inlet
@last plaza , I was going to make a statement about how Fahrenheit was really the superior way to measure temps
last plaza
lol. I’m always ready to start metric wars!
dull chasm
@green inlet F is always better .....
@last plaza well yes ....if i put them in captivity .... i should right?
last plaza
Ohio makes fireworks legal. Consumer grade, going to get some for this weekend.
dull chasm
all that typing and that all you said ...
last plaza
lol. Got distracted. Usually a fast Typer
dull chasm
well i Love ya anyway
last plaza
Auto correct never helps me
dull chasm
unless your purple .....i have been thinking twice about that
last plaza
We can use fireworks any time of the day in Ohio now. It has been illegal to use them. We are excited to get some.
mild tapir
@dull chasm Its fine. I have learned to just step away when things get heated. Passionate about your fish I understand. I agree that fish are pets and I understand that others dont treat them with the same respect as they would say a dog. I accept the apology. I can assure you I have done as much research over the years to ensure the comfort and protection of my pets. My fish are family and I treat them as such. For me, it is a devastating loss when one dies.
And as an American: Celsius is king. Fite me
1vX irl
green inlet
🤣
last plaza
@mild tapir you are fine. @dull chasm is gold at heart no matter what he says out loud. We all know him for number of years.
mild tapir
I respect a man who defends his fish. Ive seen plenty of fish treated like s h i t and it pisses me off too.
green inlet
I have typed out and erased like 8 things 😀. Thinking you two are doing fine and I should just keep my mouth shut
last plaza
Speaking of fish, my barber spent $600 on his fish as the fish had a disease that makes it float. They had to do some surgery.
mild tapir
Call me a sociopath but I did kinda leave the conversation sit for a bit just to see who would try to come up with a response to the tension..
The amount of people who tried but failed was amazing.
Needless to say, everyone made the smart decision there.
green inlet
I typed out something about moms used panties but erased
last plaza
lol. Didn’t expect anything less from you @green inlet
mild tapir
I have to say, I am impressed. usually that wouldve blown up into a slap fight
I love to see an internet community who can keep their shit together.
last plaza
Except 👈 guy
green inlet
Aw Ska, you are one of the best. You have helped me out tons
last plaza
I couldn’t have helped you if someone else didn’t help me when I was learning too
No one is expert here.
green inlet
And that right there is the general feeling behind most everyone in here
last plaza
Amen on the shite servers. They bounce and disconnect all the time. Pain in the butt if you run a discord bot on your home servers.
My home network is much stable than the discord servers itself
mild tapir
They pay for the lowest priority servers on GCP
which is already terrible
I have a couple friends at GCP. One is on the account management team that is rep for discord
last plaza
Did not know they run on gcp. AWS has similar service too.