i guessed $ tho
#the-water-cooler
sleek cove
sleek cove
we pay about 22-23 cents euro per kwh
sleek cove
yeh that makes it a lot more fun
mild tapir
I used to run it on the same mains my house did
But it would ramp up so hard on boot it would brown out my shit
Bit the bullet, had additional feed added on business SLA and used that instead
mild tapir
There is now so much friggen dust in my house
I dont think the roomba is gonna help here
wet pilot
Get better filters for your hvac
scenic radish
It'd be nice if OEMs didn't always provide a damn adapter with their micro SD cards
wet pilot
I dunno i tend to lose the adapters 😛
brazen fable
I like having extra adapters lmao
I can generally leave them in a bunch of different machines
tidal bronze
I thought it's ok to 75 on a 40 because of COVID🤔
gloomy kite
go as fast as you want. solo cannonball is currently 25:55
scenic radish
I only have one device that has a full-size SD card reader, the others have a micro SD reader lol
And the one device that has the full size I'm using a USB adapter anyway because the SD card adapter isn't in an accessible spot
last dirge
I saw something about a guy in a rental Mustang doing the cannonball with a 130 gallon fuel tank in the back seat
halcyon lotus
Still working on this concept but what do you guys think so far?
I'm on linux so there's weird screen flickering in that gif and I don't think I can fix it =/
cosmic lily
Looks good. I have something similar using Plan Coordinates
halcyon lotus
Oh cool - didn't know that existed, lol
just been using chrome inspector for everything
I was using some vh and vw originally but it didn't scale on ipad wall mount - now it all scales down perfectly on ipad + iphone with % based values
lunar sundial
I do similar with floorplan in a card 🙂
hollow pebble
oof had a power outage last night and of course my pi wasnt plugged into my UPS (ran out of outlets) and my install took a dump
having to reinstall now and restore from snapshot hopefully
does anyone know if imaging the microsd work using win32diskimager after everything is setup and running again?
thick dragon
Looks quite clean @halcyon lotus. Prefer that to all the 3D floorplan views I've seen lately.
hollow pebble
wow im impressed. that didnt take much time at all and restoring from snapshot went perfect
thick dragon
Yeah, love the snapshots! Don't even need to re-authenticate anything, it all just restores gracefully.
stable plover
I saw something about a guy in a rental Mustang doing the cannonball with a 130 gallon fuel tank in the back seat
@last dirge yeah two new cannonball records since the pandemic started, crazy
wet pilot
People don't seem to be shitting on this new one as much
wet pilot
My neighbors just installed a daylight bright flood light that shines directly into our window
When confronted they said "put curtains up"
Looking to offer a compromise of installing a motion sensor so it's not blasting the hell out of my house all night.
I'm thinking getting an in-line dumb sensei and wiring it up
wet pilot
Trying to go neighborly before escalating to hoa and/or civil nusince case
They're just old
wet pilot
Probably got swindled by their security system provider
wet pilot
I generally try to go neighborly before calling in the guns
clear ferry
That statement in murica 
clear ferry
I have a motion activated flood light in my driveway, it usually never triggers when I need it
wet pilot
They definitely don't need something this bright between the houses
clear ferry
It's atleast 20 years old though
wet pilot
If it never turns on, better for me and they'd never notice
clear ferry
Is it the kind I encountered on an old Volvo a year ago mayhaps? It was in middle of winter, total darkness here, then suddenly it was daylight
wet pilot
wet pilot
And directly into a window
clear ferry
Must be atleast 2000w
wet pilot
Yeah I think it's old school
clear ferry
HOA 
orchid rose
When atx complains about its high wattage, you know it's too bright
that looks extremely annoying
clear ferry
wet pilot
Yeah, my mother was staying with us and she had trouble sleeping
wet pilot
Room doesn't have any and I should not have to spend money for something my neighbor does
orchid rose
Yeah, like surely everyone just has blackout curtains in case their neighbor decides to run an artificial sun during nights
wet pilot
I'm kinda thinking that's what the previous owners of this place did
The neighbor mentioned that the fixture has always been there but they've been having issues with it constantly
forest edge
it's actually against the law, there is what is called light pollution
taco bell here built next to some homes and the parking lot lights were just too bright being that close. so they sued and taco bell had to put in this tall as wall that blocks the light lol
never messed with reed switches before. do the magnets in them give out over time forcing you to move the two contact closer and closer or do they generally last a really long time? anyone know?
hushed basalt
I have council streetlights outside my bedroom window
Plus crappy rental blinds that are mounted inside the window frame
So they have no overlap with the wall and have a 1" gap from the window frame
clear ferry
calm crow
So i'm looking at philips lights (white) since they're not too expensive £14 per one
and you can get 'switches'... are these switches 'smart' ?
Could i pretty much just place it anywhere on the wall
and it would control the lights
rich kettle
if the lights are on actual switches on the wall, could also just do something like lutron, make the switch smart keep the light dumb
a higher initial investment (at least sometimes) but less maintenance and more 'just works'
calm crow
Hmm just because I'm looking to get some lightbulbs and i'm happy with the plain ol' white ones but wanted an rgb one for a five year old
so thought i would maybe get a 'smart light switch' next to his bed
clear ferry
If price is of issue to you look at IKEA too
I have mostly IKEA lights, and for white and CT they are just as good as the Phillips ones
hushed basalt
This will be good
Chicken breast with Nandos marinade vacuum seal for 24 hours, then sous vide for 2 hours
ocean mirage
I could go a cheeky nandos right about now
clear ferry
ocean mirage
why are you so angery
hushed basalt
The marinades are goid
$3.25 to marinade 1kg of chicken
Cbf'd making my own 15 ingredient peri peri marinade for that
ocean mirage
im probably just gonna have maccas for dinner tbh
ocean mirage
its funny cause like
hushed basalt
A) because it makes you feel like shit
ocean mirage
its the go to for me and my partner if we are feeling unwell cause its basic, easy to stomach, and easy to get
hushed basalt
B) knowing 30% of that $13 meal is going straight to McD HQ, then the rest to the owner of the franchise and a tiny portion to 16 year old who made it
Plus it's such bad value.
But it does hit the spot sometimes
Better than that Hungry Jacks rubbish :D
I wonder how much uber eats and the like has hurt mcDs
For all those people who want some nice hot food but don't want to dine in, mcd was very convenient
But now you can get restaurant food to your door, if you're willing to wait
hushed basalt
So every night?
clear ferry
hushed basalt
Walked right into that one
clever mortar
Burger King: best chips (and burgers IMO)
KFC: best chicken
McD: best coffee and milkshakes
ocean mirage
B) knowing 30% of that $13 meal is going straight to McD HQ, then the rest to the owner of the franchise and a tiny portion to 16 year old who made it
Yes but thats everywhere. there is no ethical consumption under [REDACTED]
I had to save myself from getting political there
clear ferry
Classy shirt today
hushed basalt
A lot of them will have a silent partner who is some sketchy dude who owns 3 nightclubs and a strip bar
hushed basalt
All y'all foreigners are missing out on Australian KFC chips
ocean mirage
I am missing out on KFC everything
every night there is a traffic jam outside the KFC drive thru
clever mortar
KFC "chips" here are bland, soggy, unappealing things
clear ferry
Driving 300km today to sit at a customer site until tomorrow, just incase the remote team migrating a network with 50+ switches to a new platform drops out of the connection and I have to save them 
clever mortar
These are now chunky, and still rubbish 😄
clear ferry
I've only been to KFC twice in my life actually
hushed basalt
Cardboard shoe string
hushed basalt
Ours are really good
When I went to the UK in 2018 those kfc chips were foul
Plus what sort of country makes you pay to use the toilet
clever mortar
Depends on where you go
It's not unheard of in some shopping centres because somebody else cleans/manages them
clear ferry
Jewsus Christopher, i just saw the fourth person just this spring / summer that apparently are driving bare feet, then throw out flip flops to walk into the gas station
That shit is just wrong
clear ferry
I once saw a lady who drove barefoot, she then walked into the gas station, went to the bathroom and then back into the car
hushed basalt
Go barefoot as much as possible
ocean mirage
barefoot is nice
clear ferry
Driving barefoot seems.... Horrible
hushed basalt
How is that any different if she was wearing shoes
ocean mirage
its hard to heel/toe without shoes on though
hushed basalt
Driving in shoes is horrible
ocean mirage
hey I made the case for shoes
hushed basalt
You'd happily trade in your socialism sovereign wealth and fibre for our coffee
ocean mirage
You can feel the clutch even easier without shoes on though
hushed basalt
I don't miss driving manual
clear ferry
I don't either, except in winter, but turning off traction control and having a big engine helps
clear ferry
Driving on snow = love
hushed basalt
You're in a home automation channel :D
clear ferry
You'll never forget it
ocean mirage
cant even light the tyres up on snow smh
hushed basalt
Give me some socialist well designed auto taxi drone car pooling
And I'll happily trade in my license
clever mortar
Snow is fun to drive in - if you're prepared for it 😄
hushed basalt
I've never driven in snow
ocean mirage
fully automated luxury gay space communism for telco
clear ferry
I grew up with 9 months of snow per year
clever mortar
We get some snow - not to Canadian or Scandinavian standards though
hushed basalt
Every time it rains we have accidents on the freeway
Our drivers can't handle snow
Or ice
ocean mirage
lol yeah
hushed basalt
Oh look, first rain for the season, going to need to leave for work an hour early
Fekkin idjits
clever mortar
Here our biggest problem is that almost everybody has summer tyres. So few folks use all season, or switches between winter and summer tyres
ocean mirage
we have no use for winter tyres
ocean mirage
saves some $ at least
clever mortar
There's a lot of fun to be had driving past those idiots when they're stuck at the side of the road 😄
hushed basalt
You wouldn't have to worry about this if you could just summon an self driving car to take you door to door on demand
It's like cloud computing, for your commute
ocean mirage
then how do I do skids
hushed basalt
No maintenance, no traffic fines, no spending $150k to house your car at home, no parking high rises
clever mortar
Come to Scotland with our twisty scenic roads that are absolutely fun to thrash your car around
hushed basalt
Gimme gimme gimme
clear ferry
Look up Stig Blomqvist on YouTube btw, his Audi Quattro skills were insane
clever mortar
Costs nothing to garage a car here, no parking problems 😄
hushed basalt
$600k for a mid outer suburban home 450sqm. Land and construction cost on a double garage opportunity costs is quite a lot
Double that for Sydney
clever mortar
You forgot Nessie
rare condor
My First PR: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/37121
ocean mirage
my list hasnt grown
rare condor
I feel good not just leaching off a project.
clear ferry
And my axe!
hushed basalt
Most Australians spend $10k/annum on their car. Not including garaging
rare condor
I only added one line of python, but I will now take my trophy as a developer 😄
clear ferry
Those are rookie numbers @hushed basalt
hushed basalt
It's basically your project now
I met a guy who worked for BoM the other week Haxxa
rare condor
Nice. They are usually very boring people 😛
I worked a lot with BOM
esp. when I was doing work for BOM's Casey Base in Antarctica
I built my sensors to work to -50c but it got to -60 and they all broke
I was not popular after that
tough igloo
BoM is cool. I just wish they got the funding they used to. So much good weather data
hushed basalt
I always thought about doing telcos in Antarctica when I was younger
My wife would not approve now
hushed basalt
There was a guy at Telstra who went there
hushed basalt
Went from +50c in Darwin to -50c
calm crow
even if they're cooked great/perfect they're just crap
clever mortar
I thought the old KFC fries were bad, and then they replaced them...
calm crow
haha
hushed basalt
Obviously not up to our standards
calm crow
They're like processed 'home-made' fries
hushed basalt
Australia has access to very very good produce so that helps
tough igloo
The best
rare condor
Once the AAD's Airbus A319 lands your stuck there until next scheduled flight. Its quite nice to know that you don't have any contact with outside world for next month beyond sat internet
clear ferry
I always upgrade to sweet potato fries if I can
tough igloo
We grow so much great stuff ourselves. But hey let’s sell it off to foreign investors 🤣
rare condor
Is that an upgrade?
I was buying Aussie Apples in Beijing, because China's soil is so polluted a lot of produce just doesn't grow
basically its potatoes or import
tough igloo
Yeah whenever I have travelled overseas it’s easy to find the Australian produce. It’s known for high quality
hushed basalt
We also export the best
tough igloo
That’s the best thing about living in the country now. Fresh meat and veg from down the road
hushed basalt
So Australians in Australia don't actually see the good stuff
I'd like to set up a hydroponics pond when i have a house
So I can get quality fish that doesn't cost $100/kg
rare condor
What I missed most about Australia was clean air, when AQI never goes below 200, life is difficult and your body suffers
hushed basalt
AQI?
rare condor
Air Quality Index
hushed basalt
Is this in China?
My lungs are shit I don't think I could survive in a heavily polluted zone
Part of the reason I want a HRV
rare condor
PM2.5 levels in city I worked in (in China) [Linfen] often surpassed 500, a lot of people had cancer, thick clouds filled the air, often I would wake up and not see the end of my hallway
hushed basalt
Particulate matter > 2.5um?
clear ferry
We do aqi of 20-30 for most of Norway, Oslo is high at 65 now
rare condor
Honestly Clean Air is the most important overlooked quality when assessing standards of living
life was miserable there
Anything below 100 isn't an issue in my mind, anything over 500 is hard to live with
hushed basalt
AUsTrALiA isNt aS cOld aS nOrthERN eUroPe wE DonT neEd aNy bUiLdInG sTandArdS
clear ferry
Lolstralia
hushed basalt
Look on reddit australia or whirlpool for anything to do with air sealing and insulation
rare condor
I was trying to buy more insulation today, they sold out at Bunnings of cheap R4 Batts :/
hushed basalt
JUsT gEt a BiGGeR aIrCOn mAtE
rare condor
Legit read a post on whirlpool which was like, insulation is not required cheaper to buy bigger Split
hushed basalt
Why is my power bill so high my house is brand new, I even got the patio and dark tiles
What you need is a whirly bird
rare condor
@hushed basalt Join the My Efficient Electric Home Facebook Group, bunch of Aussies (usually enthusiasts - lot of HASS users discussing, ways to make home more energy saving)
rare condor
Don't worry as our dollar drops it will be the same soon! 😅😥😥
@ocean mirage over 550?
hushed basalt
Legit I've spoken to two "green" builders who are like " yes our houses are airtight we put a draught stopper on the bottom of the main door"
rare condor
g2g fam back from hospital
rare condor
oh yeah with the bushfires
clear ferry
Too many Barbie's at once
rare condor
yeah it wasn't great
clear ferry
With roos farting too
ocean mirage
I found an article that just lists a generic AQI, which varies depending on how you measure it
nothing on pm2.5
I remember it being many hundred
the AQI level got to like 5000, where 200 is hazardous
ocean mirage
wheres that
rare condor
Canberra
ocean mirage
that high? dang
rare condor
It got pretty bad in Melbourne, not nearly as bad though
rare condor
I was running with mask and was nearly passing out in Jan /FEB lol
ocean mirage
its enough to cause permanent damage, and we only had it a bit
clear ferry
Look ma, no bushfires
rare condor
Yeah dying of hypothermia instead
clear ferry
Pff, is 28c right now
hushed basalt
I think you lost a lot of fuel last year
So likelyhood and impact is a lot lower
Caramelising onions
ocean mirage
Yeah its lesser but burnt trees can burn again, especially if we have the same other conditions
what are you doing with the onions
clear ferry
Water plus sugar plus heat plus onions
clear ferry
https://youtu.be/P5FbLKYp81Q from 4:00 is one of the greatest Vincent price dialogues ever imo
tough igloo
Hit the onions with a little balsamic vinegar for better caramelisation
clear ferry
I don't think a single home in Norway misses a meat grinder
Everyone has a Kenwood major machine, and they have come with grinders standard since the 70s
ocean mirage
I've never ground meat
rare condor
anyone want to provide interpretation: Provide adequate protection against damage that might reasonably be expected from the presence of water or high humidity. Would you think an area next to a heated towel rail would be included under this scope based on the dripping of water from drying towels?
Currently permanent connection unit was installed by sparky, but I think its non-compliant as, reasonably I would expect the wall/area near a heated towel rail to get wet/damp.
clever mortar
Most of a bathroom I'd say
rare condor
Its out of the "legal" zones (zone3 for body of water).
rare condor
👍
hushed basalt
rare condor
yum
ocean mirage
that looks good
forest edge
got the shelly on the garage door finally. just in time too cause I see myq is having issues yet again lol
clear ferry
Cloud
forest edge
trying something new atx?
low harness
I did it! Three months of time sheets done!
clear ferry
Lulz
late gate
those should be done be 12 on fridays :p
clear ferry
Pfff
late gate
ur 2 months and 3 weeks late
clear ferry
I haven't had timesheets done the same week in atleast 10 years
late gate
who does lol
clear ferry
Haxxa apparently
clever mortar
We do timesheets, but then I work for a consultancy...
Gotta know what to bill folks 🙄
clear ferry
I told my manager I can get them done this week if I file overtime 
late gate
I have vacation. too much stress with this moving stuff, but going to rent this time. too much crap in a house vs apartment
some of the offers are insane on price
rent moving company that is
clever mortar
I know quite a few folks who've done that - if you can, it's worth doing
One lot basically went on holiday, and had the movers pack up their old house, move it all to the new house putting the boxes in the relevant rooms
They loved it
late gate
yeah but the other house is 500km away
clear ferry
Renting 🤢 🤢 🤢
late gate
so need 4-5 round trips
clever mortar
Yeah, I like owning 😄
clear ferry
I will never rent again in my life
clever mortar
We moved about the same distance, movers did it in one trip
clear ferry
Bought my own house when I was 23
clear ferry
Oslo 🤢
clever mortar
Similarly, we've rented once since buying our first home, just because they move was impractical otherwise
clear ferry
I live 30 minutes outside, perfect and countryside
But after covid I might move north again, because hey, I can work from anywhere anyway, except military, but then I can fly daytrips
clear ferry
And if things go my way I'll be working from home with ww team anyway, and just some stuff in norway
late gate
work from home ftw
clear ferry
I've done it atleast 40% the last 5 years anyway
clever mortar
I look forward to being able to go back to the office when I want to, but ... I don't miss it that much
clear ferry
Now I do it 80-90% these days
late gate
I always had major anti work from home work places
clever mortar
I've tried to do about 40% WFH myself, though usually worked out closer to 30% because it hasn't really been in policy.
Obviously things have changed now 😄
late gate
but writing solution design, project management documents etc in open offices is a major pain
clever mortar
I expect once this all lifts I'll be doing about 40% in the office 😄
clever mortar
Stop knowing stuff 😉
Admittedly being WFH hasn't stopped that, I just get all the questions via messenger
late gate
ugh
clever mortar
Well, we always knew you were certifiable ...
late gate
another hype word
clear ferry
clever mortar
But, people pay because of them
Heck, my company has won work purely because we can tick the hype word boxes more than somebody else
We've lost work because others could tick the boxes better 🤷
clear ferry
We usually win because the word boxes fail and customers need to get back to a proper setup
late gate
here they even changed the department name to cloud just cause of hype word
clear ferry
🤢
late gate
I have done no cloud work in 10 years lol
clear ferry
WW management wants to focus on taking care of customer enviroments now, as a we manage and maintain your enviroment which can be interesting I think, but for norwegian customers it's hard to let go of infra
hushed basalt
AWS cloud lets you iterate, experiment, and innovate quickly through its huge global cloud infrastructure. To leverage scalability, AWS can easily manage the workload increase by allocating the resources based on the demand, that too within minutes.
Needs more serverless
hushed basalt
I can go weeks without "programming"
Head buried so deep in configuration management and k8s
clear ferry
The good thing about HA, I've learned a lot of yaml from it
which is handy for ansible
hushed basalt
Ansible makes me want to tear my hair out often though
clear ferry
I need to look into it more, because customers are starting to use it
hushed basalt
I want to learn salt
But that means stopping a project or goal to learn that
I hear salt shits all over ansible though
late gate
php improved a lot after version 5. version 4 was crap, but php 5 can teach a lot about programming so Im all for it
clear ferry
I haven't touched php much since 2002, only fixed problems I've had in bb-forums
late gate
they didnt go oop before v5
before that is was procedural only
so you can go from php 5+ to c, python, java(ish), shell without having to relearn
clear ferry
I can read most programming languages
but I can't write for shit
so I know what happens most of the time
🤣
which is something
late gate
I can do some, but when it comes to start doing math I zone out like having to shift byte arrays etc
rare condor
I don't understand if it means I need "(i) and ( (ii) or (iii) )" OR "(i) or (ii) or (iii)"
>0.3 m no IP rating† but shall have— (i) RCD protection; (ii) separated supply; or (iii) SELV or PELV supply
hushed basalt
I would say or
hushed basalt
The semicolons break the statement
rare condor
But then this would not make sense: (A) from a source located outside Zone 0; (B) at a nominal voltage not exceeding 12 V a.c. or 30 V ripple-free d.c.; and (C) as an SELV or a PELV system, in accordance with Clause 7.5
hushed basalt
i ;
ii ;
or iii
rare condor
but then why use or twice here: (i) socket-outlets having rated currents not exceeding 63 A; or (ii) hand-held Class I equipment; or (iii) portable equipment intended for manual movement during use.
clear ferry
Damn aussies, reading electrical papers
rare condor
so i ; ii ; or iii becomes i or ii or iii?
clever mortar
The first is clearly any of these
The second I'd say is all of these
hushed basalt
They're the same as far as I can tell
It's just written by humans
Regulations should be written in yaml, source controlled and parsed
clear ferry
rare condor
I really don't like it, I prefer explicitly using 'and' and 'or' after every clause , avoids confusion (even if its just me 😛 )
hushed basalt
Some time ago in a rental I touched a GPO after a shower and got a shock
hushed basalt
Reported it and the Neanderthal electricians said No fault found and charged me call out
clear ferry
Quite popular in the IT sector in norway to source wives from thailand 🤔
hushed basalt
I read the housing of the GPO with a voltmeter too. I can't remember what I got but it was over 100v
I've read those same sections as you Haxxa
rare condor
@hushed basalt I am still not convinced of use of "or", as its not consistent, see what I mean:
(i) socket-outlets having rated currents not exceeding 63 A; or (ii) hand-held Class I equipment; or (iii) portable equipment intended for manual movement during use
In this context its used after each statement which is obvious.
vs.
Zone 3 Socket-outlets installed in Zone 3 shall be— (i) protected by an RCD with a fixed rated residual current not exceeding 30 mA; (ii) supplied individually as a separated circuit, in accordance with Clause 7.4; or (iii) supplied as an SELV or a PELV system, in accordance with Clause 7.5.
In this context its only used at the final statement, so in my mind I read it like: shall be i and (ii or iii). In programming, that's how it would literally be interpreted.
But are you suggesting in both contexts its (i) or (ii) or (iii)
hushed basalt
I remember having the same problem with that section. It's vague as fuck and frankly impossible to know
clear ferry
I haven't touched ssh tunneling in years, I've enabled gatewayports yes and permittunnel yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and added the forward in my putty as such local, auto, 1.2.3.4:8443 from port 50001 yet connecting via ssh and trying to reach https://127.0.0.1:50001 yields nothing 🤔
low harness
I read the last one as (i and ii) or iii
hushed basalt
Like if I asked you, do you want mcdonalds, hungry jacks or kfc for dinner
You wouldn't think I was asking if you wanted (mcd & hj) or kfc
But yeah it's just.. no good answer
low harness
At least i or ii or iii could be excluded, because ii offers no sort of protection on its own, and I'm assuming this is about electrics in bathrooms and such?
hushed basalt
Can't bring reason into it
rare condor
^
hushed basalt
I doubt even the people who wrote it know
We all know writing these standards was just a big annoying project for some workers and they just wanted to get it done and not think about it again
How many pages is the asnz3000?
rare condor
605 in AS3000:2018 R2
young sigil
Actually the review committee is made up of has-been drips under pressure (ex-spurts).
hushed basalt
Sounds about right
low harness
I'm keeping that one until I'm old enough for it to be socially acceptable to have such bad humor.
hushed basalt
I love how these are legal standards yet you have to buy them
Imagine if the only way to read the criminal codes was to buy a copy
low harness
🤷 You can't drive a car without head lights, but the police won't buy you new bulbs.
hushed basalt
That analogy doesn't work
rare condor
Ok messaged sparky at work its (i) or (ii) or (iii) and it is used inconsistently
low harness
You can't do electrical wiring without the proper knowledge, but the inspectors won't buy you the standard.
rare condor
They will be published online and universally accessible, but currently lobbying from Plumbers Union and Inspectors are trying to force the government to implement a new paywall.
Standards are developed by technical committees. These committees are made up of individuals representing various interest groups such as suppliers, regulatory authorities, government departments, associations, academia and consumers. Committee members are typically appointed by Nominating Organisations to represent the views of that interest group.
ocean mirage
Mate
clear ferry
G'day
ocean mirage
whats that
clear ferry
Barbie
ocean mirage
sick mate
hushed basalt
Fully sick brus
young sigil
Considering a lot of AU/NZ standards are based on free ISO standards it's time to tear down the paywall.
hushed basalt
I can't get wsl2 yet
Apparently my Microsoft Surface Laptop isn't a supported Microsoft Device yet
clear ferry
lulz surface
hushed basalt
I'll fight you
hushed basalt
Better than a HP laptop that looks like it's jewellery
rare condor
There are workarounds to get WSL2
clear ferry
Yeah, buy proper machines 🤣
clear ferry
zbook g3 15, 
ocean mirage
if you want a decent laptop without a need for good specs, surface laptop is legit
my partner has one
prettier than any other windows laptop I can think of
forest edge
for what purpose
ocean mirage
Yeah thats weird to me too, not that either of us have any use for it
but how much can it really save them
oh wait its an intel tech right?
forest edge
intel uses thunderbolt
clear ferry
I love my thunderbolt dock
forest edge
unless you are hooking up an external gpu I don't get the point
hushed basalt
Because docks work much better on pcie instead of usb
The surface dock is very good though
Magnetic cable for lyfe
But they most likely tanked thunderbolt because they're worried about people not buying their $400 dock
Taking lessons from Apple in consumer hostility
Thundebolt is also used heavily in creative industries
ocean mirage
makes sense
hushed basalt
Are you on insiders
clear ferry
no
hushed basalt
2004?
clear ferry
yes
hushed basalt
Why do dell laptops get it before windows ones
clear ferry
Dell 🤢
hushed basalt
Eh HP
clear ferry
Because we are superior hardware you see
hushed basalt
All you people look the same to me
clear ferry
calm crow
Does anyone use anything on HA to store passwords?
calm crow
is your HA on a Pi?
clever mortar
What difference does that make?
calm crow
well my next question was gonna be do store it on Pi
clever mortar
A password manager isn't really something you'd use HA for
I use a combination of KeePass (local control) and LastPass (cloud based)
calm crow
Last pass isn't free though, right?
clever mortar
clear ferry
I have used keypass for years
calm crow
hmm
clever mortar
I love folks jumping to assumptions without checking
calm crow
keypass? or keePass ?
clear ferry
but I am moving to lastpass now so I can share with the wife properly
clever mortar
Yeah, for family LastPass rocks
clear ferry
keepass 🤣
calm crow
haha
hushed basalt
I use bitwarden
clever mortar
KeePass is handy for things that should never be on the cloud
calm crow
like a password!
clear ferry
I use ciphers inside my stored passwords anyway, so the sensitive ones are only stored hints in the database
also, Password123! is superior
calm crow
Hmm i've used keepass in past
clever mortar
Password managers encrypt your password before it goes to the cloud, at least proper ones do
calm crow
gonna bing lastpass
clever mortar
Can't talk about Bob's shady password manager
scenic radish
I just use a sticky note on my monitor with my root password
clever mortar
That is at least secure from remote attacks
clear ferry
Was very easy when I worked in the educational sector
if I was to fix a machine for a teacher or school administrator
scenic radish
Locally hosted, free
clear ferry
just look around the area for the password
calm crow
what if you change password
hushed basalt
PasswordMMYY
scenic radish
New sticky
calm crow
new post-it? or just write it under
clever mortar
Burn the sticky note!
hushed basalt
Gets around those annoying 30 day renewals
calm crow
wow must have money to burn!
scenic radish
🧐
clear ferry
name of kid on picture nope, name of monitor nope name of desktop nope, under keyboard postit nope, season and year I'm in
clever mortar
password2006
clear ferry
Usually they had to change every 90 days, so things like summer2006 was pretty standard in the summer months
clever mortar
fred1234 was popular for reasons that become obvious when you look at an English keyboard
hushed basalt
Can be typed one hand in a counter clickwise spiral. F r e d
clear ferry
I've seen things like zaqxsw and such a lot too
clever mortar
"personal" use
scenic radish
I think the whole rotating password thing was said to be detrimental to security because people just keep creating shitty passwords
clear ferry
QWERTZ JAWOHL!
clear ferry
AZERTY OUI
clever mortar
UK Gov finally put out advice basically saying don't force password expiry - last year, year before?
For all the reasons around humans being bad at passwords
hushed basalt
Rotating passwords are dumb. I'm pretty sure credit card payment provider compliance requires it still
scenic radish
I wish my company's IT department would get on board with that
hushed basalt
Company IT is full of a lot of neckbeards though :D
scenic radish
I think I sent an article to them from M I K E R O W E S O F T saying it's bad practice
hushed basalt
The types who argued superman vs Goku
clear ferry
I have a master password string of ~35+ characters I use for unlocking my caches, been using the same one for 20+ years and it has never shown up in any databases I've seen 🤣
calm crow
haha what is it?
scenic radish
clever mortar
Wouldn't you like to know?
clear ferry
@scenic radish like US companies ever get on board with smart stuff
clever mortar
(no, literally 😛 )
scenic radish
That emoji 35 times
hushed basalt
Oop almost got 'im
clear ferry
JonopolyandtedioresittinginatreeKISSING!.HEHE
calm crow
imagine how easy it would be to remember passwords if we could just share them with people
clear ferry
oh no
I copied it
🤣
Not even my wife knows that password actually
so fuck anyone if I die
🤣
hushed basalt
You should work fuck{companyyouworkfor} into it as well
scenic radish
My fiancee couldn't care less
hushed basalt
See if they hash your passwords
clear ferry
Joking aside, had a customer where the networking guy died, and I had to come in and try to figure out his passwords if possible, or reset where I couldn't get in
hushed basalt
iamgivingallyoursecretstoyourcompetitorforfreebecauseihateworkinghere
clear ferry
Well, more like the usual suspects of default passwords we have used over the years for our 9532 products @calm crow
hushed basalt
Supervisor sees you typing in long password. "Boy he sure takes our security seriously. What a great employee"
clear ferry
Haha you should have seen the first team meeting I went to
I was 23, my collegues were 40+
"JESUS CHRIST HOW FAST HE TYPES"
hushed basalt
Yeah I get that
clear ferry
I have slowed down over the years, but I'm still resonably fast
calm crow
i feel i type quite slow >_> for a developer
clever mortar
Last time I checked, I could still do 80 WPM 😄
hushed basalt
I think my microsoft sculpt keyboard has slowed me down
clever mortar
Bzzzt 
calm crow
i have my right pinky hovering over the backspace button... because i typo a lot
hushed basalt
But typing speed isn't really a big factor for us .. we're not typists
clever mortar
It's a good measure of how fast you can add bugs
calm crow
when in doubt pinky out
clear ferry
I would, if there was any PROPER ONES
I miss my Microsoft Natural Elite Pro
the current microsoft natural one is shite
my wife has it
hushed basalt
I'm fastest on a plain straight keyboard but man they're horrible for ergonomics
The sculpt isn't bad
Except the F keys can get fucked
calm crow
I'm about 62wpm 😂
i find it difficult to type gibberish though 😦
my mind is like "this doesn't make sense"
clear ferry
I'm pretty sure I was close to 100 before
this is on my laptop keyboard though
so 75 might be good
hushed basalt
As in, i can't remember the last time I've typed a bunch of paragraphs on a computer
clear ferry
You mean like an email ? 🤣
hushed basalt
Yeah I haven't written a work email in 6+ months :D
And even then I kept them brief
calm crow
what? you don't like writing over informative emails?!
hushed basalt
I like receiving short to the point emails so I do the same for others
calm crow
with emojiis ?
calm crow
do you use styling on your emails?
clear ferry
hushed basalt
🐕🐾💩
clear ferry
clear ferry
Styling, I use HTML to get bold and underlining and colours 🤣
because sometimes that is the only way to get through to certain people
NO WE HAVE ALREADY REPLACED THAT FILE
caps is effective too
last dirge
AS PER MY PREVIOUS EMAIL
hushed basalt
You know people who can't deal with more than one issue in an email
last dirge
@hushed basalt that's the worst
last dirge
"hey I need answers on these enumerated questions"
hushed basalt
Like you email them
Do X
Also what is status of Y
calm crow
I like light theme now @hushed basalt
last dirge
only answers the first one
calm crow
When i was little i used to like the dark themes
hushed basalt
And you ask them again
calm crow
haha
last dirge
when I was little I used to like the dark themes
hushed basalt
And they just ignore you
last dirge
I still do, but I used to too
calm crow
haha
clear ferry
go sit in a corner with teddi
calm crow
good bit of contrast theme
hushed basalt
So you can only ask them one question per email
calm crow
dark can be too reflective
hushed basalt
Because you know they'll never answer the second one
calm crow
sometimes i can see myself in screen and it makes me sick
hushed basalt
And if they ask you something in their response, your response counts as one issue
last dirge
"let me just stare at this light source"
hushed basalt
So you basically have to reply to their issue, then wait a day and send them a new email
Because if you send them two seperate emails in one day they'll only answer one too
calm crow
I wonder how well younger generation will be when it comes to development
hushed basalt
Some people are frustrating to deal with..like you question how they're employed.
calm crow
My son is 5 and they already do algorithms and some web stuff
and when i say web i mean basic web
last dirge
operations guy: the development team should take care of managing the web and application servers
hushed basalt
So serverless infrastructure?
last dirge
clear ferry
When I worked in the school sector 15 years ago every child had their own laptop, plus freestanding desktops to use collectively
or, it rolled at at that time
and norway has had a lot of coding initiatives in primary school already, atleast once or twice every year they compete in coding acadamies and stuff
guessing my daughter will be spoiled silly since she can play around in daddys systems 🤣
and her mother knows a lot more programming than I do, plus malware analysis
dang I love my yubikey btw, I want to use it for everything now 
last dirge
@hushed basalt so I asked "can I get a login to vsphere?"
of course not
how about unrestricted sudo?
nah
clear ferry
just use granulated access to whatever you need
you can tune it down to actually only seeing the power state of a vm, and only that vm at all
last dirge
"we need to shift from opex to capex as much as possible"
also "we're moving everything out of AWS and buying hardware"
CLOWNSHOES
tidal bronze
Anyone tested google broadcast to specific device?
hushed basalt
Atx loves Capex
rare condor
yes I use it all the time
For example only get 'Kettle has low water' notification in my Bedroom not whole house
tidal bronze
Broadcast to specific device is still rolling out 🤔
last dirge
@tidal bronze you mean something other than TTS?
tidal bronze
Yes, broadcast
last dirge
is this some new technology I'm too poor to know about?
hushed basalt
How can you build a staging environment without permissions to build a staging environment @last dirge
last dirge
@hushed basalt oh, they'll set up the server
hushed basalt
Broadcast doesn't override your playback
last dirge
and install java
hushed basalt
So if you're listening to music etc it'll keep playing afterwards
last dirge
and put the app server tar file on there
tidal bronze
@last dirge lol no. 2 years, broadcast would send out to all devices by default.
hushed basalt
Fantastic. Have you read the Phoenix project or the unicorn project
hushed basalt
Read them. You'll like it
tidal bronze
scenic radish
Love Android police
clear ferry
last dirge
I'd probably have to update hass to take advantage of that
but that's scary
🙂
I'm only 8 versions behind this time
instead of 58
hushed basalt
Unicorn Project is probably the better book for devs to read though
It's a novel about a developer
last dirge
will it make me rage?
tidal bronze
@last dirge BTW ordered Humic DG can't wait to try it out.
tidal bronze
yep.
last dirge
my back yard is STRUGGLING
I accidentally nuked it last year when I thought it was still dormant (it wasn't)
I need to do a soil test but apathy
tidal bronze
Constant battle man to keep things 100
tidal bronze
Staying home is not good. You notice shit all the time.
last dirge
back yard's finally coming together
I've worked from home for comin up on 6 years now
so that's nothing new
last dirge
I'm fine with it
calm crow
are you a freelancer?
hushed basalt
I'd download the sample on Kindle, see if it gels with you
calm crow
i'd love to do it because pay is meant to be really good
hushed basalt
Lol look at this job posting.
last dirge
today
hushed basalt
Developer/Programmer
To be successful, you will have at least eight years' experience post qualification as a Developer/Programmer and a technical expert working on complex applications development, front end development and implementation, problem solving and other related tasks.
Experience required in:
.NET + SQL + HTML + CSS + JavaScript
Extensive experience with VB.NET and / or C#
jQuery and associated libraries
what's the pay?
tidal bronze
@last dirge looking great. Edge watering issues?
hushed basalt
To apply for this fantastic position you will be I.T or similar degree qualified, have excellent communication skills, be highly experienced within .NET + SQL + HTML + CSS + JavaScript and related tools and methodologies, have a full understanding of back end and front end development, be confident with the use of industry standard tools + planning + interacting with clients.
No idea
But it's red flags galore
last dirge
@tidal bronze no, I applied some herbicide a bit heavily and it stressed the grass by the sidewalk out
calm crow
@last dirge ,what car is that?
last dirge
@calm crow Tesla
clear ferry
Tesla 🤢
last dirge
@tidal bronze the stuff by the pavers is just sand. It's slowly gaining root there
it's still destroyed from last year when I had the tree removed
tidal bronze
You mean by the OSD text?
last dirge
nah
down near the sidewalk near the bushes
the stuff by the OSD text in that first image is because of the damn moles
I've caught and killed 4
tidal bronze
lol. Moles winning ATM?
last dirge
I haven't seen any new tunnels in a few days but it's been raining
out in the yard like
dull chasm
moles have rights
clear ferry
Guessing this works as good on moles as on rats
tidal bronze
I gave up on wild rabbits and squirrels the size of a smart car.
calm crow
Moles Matter
last dirge
looks like quail eggs
if the moles stayed only in the flower beds, I'd have zero problems with them
but they run their tunnels in my yard and when it rains I've got a brand new 2" drainage channel that's POURING water everywhere
hushed basalt
Free aeration
tidal bronze
lol
last dirge
that doesn't work when they kill the roots
dull chasm
and proper drainage
last dirge
they've got one tunnel they made that runs along the entire side of my house right up next to the basement wall
dull chasm
i just think he is being cruel
last dirge
that's starting to be a real problem with the rain
dull chasm
you invaded there home ...they where there first
clear ferry
Say no to mole
dull chasm
neighborhood forced them to relocate ... killing there envoiroment
rare condor
I don't think I have seen a mole before
last dirge
I've got a pretty huge carpenter bee population here recently
tidal bronze
@last dirge how do you catch them?
last dirge
I'd be killing them like crazy but they're staying out of my deck for the most part
and they're pollinating my garden
@tidal bronze scissor traps
dull chasm
^^^ one ruthless human invader
tidal bronze
Yep saw that.
last dirge
I tried in-tunnel traps from trapline but I had zero success with that
@rare condor they're really weird looking creatures
worn jasper
morning all
last dirge
@worn jasper is that a Miata?
worn jasper
LOL oh lord no
last dirge
what is it?
last dirge
4 lug?
worn jasper
5
last dirge
oh, I see the 5th now
worn jasper
LOL
last dirge
5th gen?
worn jasper
yeah 13 SS
last dirge
🤢
worn jasper
LOL better than the 4th and the only 6th gen i like were the first year or so before they made it look like a charger/mustang XD
last dirge
the '20s look REALLY good though
worn jasper
i dislike those haha
i wouldn't say no to one if offered though haha, better be a Zl1 though, need sthat supercharger!
last dirge
the lights on the ZL1 are awesome
worn jasper
Zl1 is just awesome period
last dirge
I'd rather a Model 3 Performance for the money though
worn jasper
i wouldn't mind either but idk i love my american muscle
rare condor
Are you an Elon Fan?
worn jasper
i've said once this is paid off (real soon!) i'd like to look into a tesla or something thats hybrid at least because i'm tired of the $50/wk gas bill for traveling to ffrom work haha
let the camaro be a fun car only again, heck i live where it snows a lot and have to drive it year round haha
worn jasper
LOL geez, heck when the gas prices bottomed out last month whenever that was i was so excited cause i was able to actually run premium in it for once and still cost me under 20 to fill LOL
calm crow
i get the train to work and it cost me £4
last dirge
I can beat that
worn jasper
LOL i live in rural america, amish buggies and tractors rule the road XD
worn jasper
LOL i need me a remote gig again, slaving away in the retail grocery world still and i'm just about over it
last dirge
@calm crow consulting can be good, can be a pain in the ass
not sure of all of the legal/tax differences between here and there
calm crow
yeah, i think its better there than here
but still it pays well
just i imagine it to be a lot more stressful
clear ferry
Public transport to work 🤢
tidal bronze
Talking about wild rabbits 🤣
clear ferry
@worn jasper let me tell you about gas prices outside the US and Saudi Arabia
worn jasper
LOL
dull chasm
@tidal bronze rabbits are cool ....and your friend
dull chasm
no i hunt but i like animals on my property ..... i can fix whatever they mess up ....it is just there instinct ......bugs now i could kill them all LOL
i love watching them play
unreal orbit
I also hunt, I just don't like the taste of rabbit. Plus yes, they are adorable
dull chasm
rabbit isnt my first choice but in a stew it is good
unreal orbit
We made rabbit stew for a LotR marathon party last year. The stench from cleaning/butchering the rabbit was overpowering. The flavor ended up being surprisingly mild, but not worth the effort