#the-water-cooler

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scenic radish
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I get too hot easily despite being 6' 0" and about 190

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Yeah we don't see 110 too often lol

lunar sundial
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110 is cooler

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we can get upto 123

last dirge
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it's been in the 90s here recently

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with like 90% humidity

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which is horrendous

lunar sundial
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meh

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one time i went to bed it was 110 still ~10pm

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overnight low 100

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75F dew point -_-

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luckily I worked at a data center, so tons of AC to keep me cool 😛

clever mortar
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I live in Scotland. We only get a handful of hot days a year 😛

last dirge
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I think I'm on the same parallel as Morocco

scenic radish
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Eww 75F dew point...we get definitely get that

late gate
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meh I was driving last friday and it was full stop on the motorway. The AC cut off in the car and the temp sensor went to 39 degrees, probably cause of the extreme heat on the motor way. I sat there for 3 hours moving 500 meters.

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thats celcius :p

willow coral
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Hey, not sure if this is the right chat for it, but I have a general question about let'sencrypt. Is it possible to do an HTTP-01 challenge on a port other than 80?

unreal orbit
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nope

clever mortar
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No, it's not

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The answer is DNS-01

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Or TLS-ALPN-01 on 443

willow coral
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I see, thank you guys!

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I opened up a port on my router, I guess there is no other way. My router has no special settings of like, "between 8:00am - 9:00am open port 80 every first of the month" kinda settings

last dirge
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web client?

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if so, you could probably script it using curl

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or WebDriver

unreal orbit
clever mortar
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Or move to DNS-01 verification

last dirge
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or buy a cert for a few bucks and forget about all of that

clever mortar
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DNS-01 + Dehydrated + cron == free and forgotten about 😛

scenic radish
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Cloudflare free tier + free 15-year cert

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YOLO

unreal orbit
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Kicking the can 💯

scenic radish
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inb4 "won't work with safari soon"

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In 15 years + 1 day I'm gonna be confused why all my remote services no longer work

unreal orbit
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!RemindMe 15 years 1 day

scenic radish
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Lol

last dirge
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things that go dump in the night

gloomy kite
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in case anyones in the market in the US for a new central HVAC system, it appears the Amana variable flow units have all the smarts in the air handler, and can use any old thermostat, the competitors all require the use of their (very expensive) thermostats and cloud services. I.E. no local API

last dirge
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"air handler"

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those don't work too well here

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efficiency is great where they do though

gloomy kite
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depends where "here" is. In the south where I am, its a requirement for civilized existence.

last dirge
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I'm in GA

gloomy kite
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well then.

last dirge
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heat pumps have issues compared to AC

gloomy kite
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i mean, an AC is still a heat pump, just running the other way around.

last dirge
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you went with the ASXC18?

gloomy kite
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nah, im planning ahead. I've got a 17 and 15 year old trane unit outside

last dirge
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ah

gloomy kite
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they're gonna be due soon

last dirge
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I replaced my whole system with Carrier 19VS stuff a few years ago

gloomy kite
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thats nice gear too.

last dirge
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it was $$$

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but it's saved a ton of money on power

gloomy kite
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I'd like to include a bypass as well as baffles in each of the supply ducts, then use temp/humidity sensors around the house and plug it all into an ML model somewhere

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yea, thats my big thing, I'm trying to cut down on my insane power bill

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stovetop in the next two weeks, water heater probably within the next year, AC the year after

last dirge
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it's got a 5 stage compressor outside and a 3 stage fan in the furnace

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you going electric on the water heater or hybrid?

gloomy kite
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yea, those are pricy units.

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hybrid

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gonna see if i can reverse engineer the econet API with wireshark and python

last dirge
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my utility's got a big rebate for installing a hybrid

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and mine's 13 years old now so it's on borrowed time

gloomy kite
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mine unfortunately doesn't. I'm hopeful they'll have one soon

last dirge
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it's a high-efficiency gas unit right now

gloomy kite
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mines about the same

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if i had gas, things would be a bit different

last dirge
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with the PVC ducting 🙂

gloomy kite
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but im all electric out here

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oooooooh the good stuff.

last dirge
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quality gas heaters, on-demand heaters, and hybrid heaters are all about the same price

gloomy kite
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yea, they are. but im gonna get the hybrid to pull triple duty

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air condition my finished basement (and nix the window unit a bit), provide hot water, and dehumidify the basement all in one go

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plus im not even sure where I would put a big propane tank.

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and i shudder to think the WAF of one.

last dirge
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you're not too south if you've got a basement

gloomy kite
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Nah, ATL metro. Far west side

last dirge
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oh, I'm in Norcross

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you're like Dallas?

gloomy kite
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dead on.

last dirge
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that's far enough out to where you'd not have NG service by default

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but not so far out to where you'd not say "metro ATL"

gloomy kite
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right

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im lucky that i've got att gigabit fiber though

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which is shockong considering the amount of land the house is in

last dirge
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do you commute in for work?

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or do you work out there?

gloomy kite
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yea, drive into smyrna

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at least i did before The Plague

last dirge
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the 20 E traffic is ridiculous

gloomy kite
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nope, don't even hit an interstate. All back roads

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maybe 45mins tops

jade heron
last dirge
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I lived in the Smynings area for a while

gloomy kite
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we used to live in decatur when i was in grad school. its much nicer out here. quiet as all get out, and the views are incredible

last dirge
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@jade heron that looks like that boat from the show with Hulk Hogan

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Thunder in Paradise

last dirge
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@last plaza full self driving upgrade is 25% off

velvet horizonBOT
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skalavala is away for 18h 31m 12s with a message :point_right: see ya!

scenic radish
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🇨 ya!

last dirge
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SMELL YA LATER

last plaza
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Wtf! That was a test and I forgot 😂

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@last dirge saw that... still not decided. I’m sure it will add resale value, but I really don’t use it or need it.

last dirge
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I'm not sure if I'm gonna go for it either

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I'd at least get new hardware

last plaza
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Elon says it will cost a lot more if you change your mind later - due to the cost of making it.

gloomy kite
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didn't they strip the self driving upgrade out of a car when it was sold as used?

last dirge
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accidentally

last plaza
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Yup. I would wait for a couple of years and upgrade my hardware

last dirge
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with the bad luck I'm having with other people and this car, I'd not surprised if it ended up getting totaled down the line

last plaza
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Really? What’s going on?

last dirge
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got hit in the rear quarter by some idiot not paying attention

last plaza
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Crap! Get the camera footage!

last dirge
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construction workers left one of those giant construction barrels in the fast lane

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smashed my driver's side mirror, the mirror was dangling by the auto-dimming wires and whipped into the paint, trim, and glass

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and the skull cap got knocked off

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dump truck threw a rock and cracked the windshield

last plaza
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Crap!!!

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Just saw the picture you posted yesterday, it looked okay in your driveway

last dirge
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$970 for a new windshield, in case you're wondering

last plaza
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I’m not surprised.

last dirge
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the first panel on the roof is $1100

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I'm considering dropping to a $0 deductible

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only bumps my rate by ~$100/year

last plaza
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Assuming it is just the parts? Or installation included?

last dirge
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installation included

last plaza
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Ok...

last dirge
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you can't drive the car while that roof panel is getting replaced

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there's some required adhesive cure time since it's a structural member

last plaza
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I see

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How long does it take?

last dirge
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3 days

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I think the final bill on that was just south of $11K

last plaza
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Holy crap dude!

last dirge
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Allstate sucks to deal with

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it took them over 6 weeks to get an adjuster out

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then they wouldn't pay the shop to fix it

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so I filed a claim with my insurance company and let them deal with it

last plaza
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You are not in good hands after all!

dull chasm
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get you a farm truck ....hell dents from cows and etc just add character

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last plaza
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Cyber truck ftw

gloomy kite
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calves stuck in the bushbar just make sure you get the parking spot to yourself.

last plaza
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Totally going for it.

last dirge
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oooh, lawn progress pic

gloomy kite
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i wish my lawn had grass

last plaza
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lol

last dirge
last plaza
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What else you will have if not grass in your lawn? lmao

last dirge
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if only I could get the damn mole

gloomy kite
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@last plaza weeds. acres and acres of weeds.

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at least the pastures have good grass

last plaza
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Your lawn has improved a lot since last time. Most of the patches are covered.

last dirge
last plaza
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Oh wow! Day and night improvement.

last dirge
static schooner
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how did you get the concrete to grow?

last plaza
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lmao

scenic radish
last plaza
dull chasm
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i think they water it in the city

last dirge
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@static schooner the difficult part was getting it to grow in a circle around a tree

static schooner
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skillz

gloomy kite
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and so tall,

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its like a concrete bonsai

last plaza
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I hate that small patch of grass near walkway. Pain to mow small patches with riding mower. They look nice, but!

scenic radish
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5.45 3.44 2.00
my poor dual-core processor 😢

last dirge
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I had a beach party sometime in between

last plaza
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Are you hiding something between those bushes?

last dirge
static schooner
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yeah, I prefer the arrangement in my neighborhood where the sidewalk is next to the curb. I've had it both ways

last dirge
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@last plaza utilities

last plaza
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I see you leveled using sand - I need to do it

last dirge
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that side is cable/phone/fiber

last plaza
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Got a few low spots

last dirge
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other side is power

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I had a ton of low spots

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I put out 2 yards last year

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need to do another at least 1 this year

last plaza
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That makes a lot of difference once it is all leveled

forest edge
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grass chat

last dirge
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someone change the topic

last plaza
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@forest edge dude, I’m so f’ing pissed! The items I ordered in April, still stuck in NY.

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USPS stopped updating status as it is more than 2+ months.

forest edge
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@last plaza thats cause they were actually coming from india and with everything going on your crap is in quarantine lol

last plaza
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They were coming from Italy actually

forest edge
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you are pretty much going through what i went through when i ordered my sonoff rf hub that came from china

last plaza
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I got the one from UK, this is the only item I have been waiting for. Seller can’t do shit, and USPS can’t do anything either.

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I heard Sonoff has a factory in WuHan

forest edge
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well i had ordered well before covid lol

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if you think about it with covid being able to last up to 3 days on items, customs job handling stuff coming in would be vvery dangerous. maybe they all got sick

last dirge
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did anybody start a ronagarden?

last plaza
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Not sure what that is.

scenic radish
tidal bronze
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Yep shallots, garlic, tomatoes, chilli and cucumber

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@forest edge see what sand can do 🤣

scenic radish
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Grown in sand?

tidal bronze
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Well @forest edge always says we have shit soil filled with sand in LA. Lol

scenic radish
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Lmao

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magic sand

tidal bronze
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I guess. You throw something and shit grows. 😜

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All thanks to Rona😆

scenic radish
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Rona tomatoes

red umbra
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i just got DMed by a bot for some crypto scam

tidal bronze
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@scenic radish

scenic radish
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Wtf again?!

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Who was it @red umbra

red umbra
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uh

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@midnight adder

scenic radish
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Screenshot?

red umbra
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this is s scam right

scenic radish
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Banned

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not in my house

gritty hornet
scenic radish
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Banned

fervent nacelle
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Getting bs bitcoin spam message from user @midnight adder

scenic radish
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Screenshotty pls

fervent nacelle
silver dove
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I just got the same from a different user

peak cloud
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@silver dove What was the username?

silver dove
wet pilot
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Banned

peak cloud
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On mobile, couldn’t get to it quick enough. Thanks @wet pilot

wet pilot
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Mobile too, just quicker to the trigger 😛

scenic radish
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Heh yeah I've got it down to a science after last time

silver dove
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Thank you

signal heron
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Yea I got that to, came to report it

obsidian abyss
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there's more than one, guys

scenic radish
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Yep, we've banned more than 10 already

obsidian abyss
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Darn, I hope they stop after a while.

scenic radish
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Banned

obsidian abyss
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Thanks

scenic radish
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They do once they realize they're being banned lol

last plaza
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I am tired of this BTC bullshit. Unfortunately bot doesn’t have control over DMs.

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There is a setting on Discord, where you can prevent users send any messages including DMs if the user account is newly created.

scenic radish
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That's the setting we elevate when this happens

silver dove
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Idk I think they need new material. I got a call last week from the IRS wanting Itunes cards...LOL

hushed basalt
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Funny if Tedi kept banning the people reporting the spam instead of the spammers

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My working memory is shite. I'd probably do something like that

silver dove
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Like if your gonna troll at least be original

upper apex
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nerd question for the nerds

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should I have my unifi gateway handle my DHCP or my unifi controller which is running on a pie4...

last dirge
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@tidal bronze just onions?

tidal bronze
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@last dirge tomatoes, jalapenos, chillies cucumber zucchini etc.

midnight adder
last dirge
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zucchini take up a TON of space

strong sage
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yeah I got a message as well

last dirge
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BANHAMMER

deep prawn
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Fruit Guru#7650 too, just got hit by them

last dirge
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@tidal bronze I got roma tomatoes, white onions, garlic, asparagus, poblano peppers, carrots, bell peppers, cucumbers, zucchini

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so far so good

tidal bronze
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Nice. Yep takes too much space for such a small vegetable lol

last dirge
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and in my aerogarden I'm growing mint, cherry tomatoes, and romaine lettuce

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my cucumber is climbing everywhere but I guess I misread about zucchini since mine's not climbing

scenic radish
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Both banned @deep prawn @strong sage

hushed basalt
last dirge
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cucumbers grow REALLY fast

scenic radish
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I wish there were stats on number of users banned lol

tidal bronze
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cucumbers grow REALLY fast
@last dirge too fast.

scenic radish
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Almost as fast as me

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Wait

dull chasm
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wow we had largest spike in covid cases since it began 1356 cases in one day

tidal bronze
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It's troubling to say the least

dull chasm
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yep and i am at stay at home orders now till monday

scenic radish
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@upper apex I would say have your USG handle it

deep prawn
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meanwhile my state is like "sacrifice more citizens, maybe the numbers will go away"

forest edge
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I get spam from this person named @scenic radish . please ban them as well

scenic radish
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Otherwise you wouldn't have DHCP for wired

forest edge
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wow we had largest spike in covid cases since it began 1356 cases in one day
@dull chasm gee i wonder why... whistles

upper apex
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i have unifi gateway.. netgear switch, then a pie4 that runs my unifi controller and another pie4 that runs piehole and a DNS resolver

dull chasm
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yea no doubt

tidal bronze
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"too much testing" gotta ramp is down. 🤔

forest edge
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Seattle's Mayor: Summer of love.

upper apex
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@tidal bronze your not theeee quadflight on youtube that runs 3s quads on 5s batteries are you?

tidal bronze
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LMAO. Used to back in the day but now a quadfather

forest edge
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two quads one cup?

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oh nm read that wrong

upper apex
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two quad and a sand box

hushed basalt
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Does anyone have a clue what quad intel NIC to get

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To use with pfsense etc

scenic radish
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a good one?

hushed basalt
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ALL THESE NUMBERS MEAN NOTHING TO ME

upper apex
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6969420

forest edge
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1234

scenic radish
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MASON, THE NUMBERS

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WHAT DO THEY MEAN????

forest edge
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@tidal bronze lol just saw your sand produce. was it gritty? lol

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Honey these taste like dirt!

hushed basalt
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I've decided to turn one of my optiplexes into a gateway

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So proxmox with router on it, cicd, maybe even homeassistant to keep that off my developmental kubernetes cluster incase I brick it lol

last dirge
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might have to cancel my vacation again :/

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@tidal bronze is more of a 4S1P kinda guy

ocean mirage
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I got the best numbers

green inlet
hushed basalt
rustic thunder
scenic radish
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Thanks, banned

hushed basalt
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Where's my ban

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I spammed a mod and all I got was a rofl

scenic radish
ocean mirage
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If I am still around you should be fine

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you can even ping all mods at least once, you have wiggle room

scenic radish
ocean mirage
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aw you are gonna add me as friend

scenic radish
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In your dreams

ocean mirage
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haha

hushed basalt
ocean mirage
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dreams do come true

scenic radish
hushed basalt
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@rare condor is this anything of noteworthiness

scenic radish
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@hushed basalt @ocean mirage have you guys ever made a s'more?

hushed basalt
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What's a s'more

ocean mirage
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Yeah like gimme s'more

scenic radish
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Graham cracker, toasted marshmallow, and chocolate (or Reese's peanut butter cups in my case)

ocean mirage
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I am not a big fan of marshmallow

scenic radish
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The mallow and chocolate are between two graham cracker halves

ocean mirage
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I think they are somewhat known of here but people mostly just toast marshmallows straight

scenic radish
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Yeah I wasn't sure how popular they were outside the US

tough igloo
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Plus we pronounce graham “gray-am” not gram so it sounds weird

scenic radish
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gray ham

tough igloo
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Grey hahm

scenic radish
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Oh sorry, grey

tough igloo
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Please and thank you

scenic radish
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Ok Ron Swanson

tough igloo
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Parks and rec was great

scenic radish
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So good, favorite show

tough igloo
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Have you seen Devs?

hushed basalt
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Alex Garland. Interesting

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I'll have to check it out when I get sonarr back up

scenic radish
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I haven't

tough igloo
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Ron Swanson is in it

scenic radish
tidal bronze
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@tidal bronze lol just saw your sand produce. was it gritty? lol
@forest edge so you want push it huh 🤣

last dirge
hushed basalt
forest edge
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wow. where is everyone? last message was over 3 hours ago lol

clever mortar
forest edge
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lol

clear ferry
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@late gate waaay to expensive, I think I'll buy the ender 3 pro for now

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yaaaas my rsnapshots are moving along nicely

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alpha.0 alpha.1 alpha.2 alpha.3 alpha.4 alpha.5 beta.0

hushed basalt
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Yay I finally have my nfs persistent volume provider in kubernetes

clear ferry
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kube your enthusiasm

late gate
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no wonder everoyone on discount mode now with tax return and vacation money coming out (and nowhere to vacation)

clear ferry
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mmmm vacation money tomorrow

late gate
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and you are going to buy a lot of crap you dont need

clear ferry
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pfff

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I always put away atleast $6000 of it

tough igloo
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Tax time here soon. Probably won’t get much of a refund but I don’t need it

late gate
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I got 5k refund for once

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on the tax

hushed basalt
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I don't get my refunds until next year

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Family trusts are annoying

ocean mirage
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Oh yeah we got that thing where you can claim some for working from home

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sounds annoying to do

tough igloo
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The ATO created a simple way if you wanted to do that

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Or you can do it the complex way but that requires keeping detailed logs

late gate
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well the americans are spolied with the check you get from the goverment. i want that check too :p

ocean mirage
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I have logs of my work hours anyway

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is the complex way likely to be any better?

tough igloo
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It’s logs of EVERYTHING

ocean mirage
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like what?

tough igloo
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Phone calls, energy, internet usage, use of any personal item for work pretty much

ocean mirage
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oh huh

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what does the simple way require ?

tough igloo
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I’m just using the simple 80c per hour when working from home between 1 March and 30 June

ocean mirage
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cool cheers

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sounds easy enough

late gate
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here its a flat fee of 150usd a year for home office

ocean mirage
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why is there a simple method and a fixed method

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they look mostly the same

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but ones more

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either way, the simple method should account to about 500 bucks for me if I did it right

brazen fable
clever mortar
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Well, both of them are correct

dull chasm
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i bet them screws will hold at least 50 amps

orchid rose
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16 amps might make the cheese quite toasty

dull chasm
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most likely

hushed basalt
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Needs more death defiance

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Why even have fuses

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Can't blow what you don't have

fading zodiac
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I really am done for today x.x

hushed basalt
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That's because it's the evening

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In star trek whenever they overload the power conduits they just crawl through some jeffreys tubes and reverse the polarity and it's all fine

hushed basalt
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@rare condor do you use bootlace ferrules

late gate
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this remind me of the cool diy people why build multi thousand amp hours battery arrays and think its not dangerous cause its "only" 12v :p

rare condor
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I finished all my Exams 😁

last dirge
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"dangerous" is kinda loosely defined

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12V poses no issue to a human

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but high discharge current capacity is a huge potential problem

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@rare condor is that in your house?

rare condor
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yes

last dirge
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cool

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centralized switching?

dull chasm
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ladder logic .....love it when working ....hate to build it

rare condor
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nah ST and FBD

last dirge
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I don't know those acronyms 🙂

dull chasm
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huh? i guess i havent kept up

rare condor
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It controls my Windows, skylights and 24v Rails in my house

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Ladder Logic isn't popular in the industry

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Its mainly Function Block Diagrams (FBD)

dull chasm
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since when with a plc

last dirge
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"controls my windows" like photochromic stuff or open/close?

rare condor
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and Structured Text

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Ladder Logic is still popular with Gas/Water though

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Open and Closes them based on humidity control, raining etc.

dull chasm
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feed mills ....production ...etc ..... still mainstream here in the states

rare condor
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Yeah states very different

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ladder all the time in the states

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esp. on Rockwell Gear

dull chasm
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i love that shit when i get it working .....until that point there is not enough beer or whiskey to get rid of the headache

rare condor
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Yeah, my entire house is PLC based, gradually replacing ESPs as I go.

dull chasm
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cool i started in this when i was trying a opto22 .......shit cost way too much but it works and always works

last dirge
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@rare condor looks familiar

dull chasm
last dirge
dull chasm
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and opto is like 1k and then i/o are outragous

rare condor
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@last dirge Rockwell still uses that video at Press gatherings, I have had to watch it on loop for hours, kind dulls the humour

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Note to self: Don't post photos of unreleased products

hushed basalt
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I was thinking of getting a ferrule crimper

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Do you use square or notched crimps

rare condor
hushed basalt
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That's a bit cheaper than a knipex haha

rare condor
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I use it onsite, I have crimped 8mm2 415v wire with it. Use it daily, no issues for last year.

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I still get sh*t on site for using Dewalt, while the tradies are using Hilti

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If I lost a $900AUD drill I would be devo, can't understand paying so much

hushed basalt
#

People get very defensive about their tools

last dirge
#

I myself prefer Power Fist

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does a good job drilling through prefamulated amulite

hushed basalt
#

Focus you fuck

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Bootlace ferrules just make sense to me though

#

Screwing down onto strands just seems... Not good.

last dirge
#

his recent BoLTRs on power tools from the hazard fart were pretty surprising

hushed basalt
#

I need good long breaks between AvE

rare condor
#

Never solder and screwdown that is the big no-no

last dirge
#

he just figured out the McMaster CAD download yesterday

hushed basalt
#

Solder and crimping 🤢

rare condor
#

I personally prefer ferrules prevents lose strands arcing when shoved in screw terminals

hushed basalt
#

It's just... Good engineeeing sense

rare condor
#

Esp. when debugging. wires can get pretty naff

hushed basalt
#

Wires will just splay out. Oxidation gets into every strand

#

Heaven forbid if it's coastal areas

#

Amount of times I've seen people crimp a terminal and then solder it 🤢

#

More is better right

rare condor
hushed basalt
#

Better than the standard of work at Telstra

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Had to leave that organisation. Shit on shit

rare condor
#

I remember when I was like 8 the Telstra tech wanted me to get in the pit to get the wires because he couldn't fit, I did it at the time but the more I think about that the more I realise how messed up it was. Resi Telco does have a pretty bad wrap.

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NBN brings it to a whole new level

hushed basalt
#

Micromanagement was insane and this was 10 years ago

#

Regional leaders would be monitoring your onsite time by the minute

last dirge
#

too many people don't realize that people get more shit done when you leave them alone

rare condor
#

^

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I love spending literally 3 hrs on Friday filling timesheets 🙄

low harness
#

Oh God. I'm four months behind on my timesheets.

#

For every week the workload increases, leading to me putting it off another week.

clear ferry
#

I get scolded if I don't update my timesheet weekly

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so I do it every two weeks

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🤣

rare condor
#

I get daily messages from management you guys are lucky as

clear ferry
#

management trusts me enough that I really don't have to report anything, except my hours, when I feel like it, except during corona we have to do it every week

young sigil
#

No beta today?

ocean mirage
#

Oh god my timesheets

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Being reminded every three months to do them lol

lunar sundial
#

if I don't fill in my timesheet daily I get a nasty email 😛

rare condor
#

LOL @ my to do list: argue with idiot about IOTA Watt installation (Clause 3.9.8.3) + bad Wiring

lunar sundial
#

i like my iotawatt

rare condor
#

oh nice, two questions what country are you in. and what psu do you use for 9v ref?

lunar sundial
#

US and I use the DA-10-09 9v ref

last dirge
#

hey you ozzies

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WHY

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y u do dis?

dull chasm
#

cause they come from down under?

rare condor
#

That's not common

last dirge
#

switches on the outlets?

ocean mirage
#

Switches is common

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I don’t think I’ve seen one without a switch

rare condor
#

oh yeah that is common I thought u meant next to each other

ocean mirage
#

Why would you want no switch

rare condor
#

^

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Safety Isolation: Technology Connections did a great video on it recently

last dirge
#

because the stuff I plug in has a switch?

rare condor
#

Its a safety requirement, if an appliance faults we can always isolate it

ocean mirage
#

Does everything you plug in have a switch?

last dirge
#

you can isolate it

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by turning off the switch

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next to the plug you can pull out of the socket?

rare condor
unreal orbit
#

That doesn't help if there's a problem with the socket

rare condor
#

Not all have them

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Some are autoswitch

ocean mirage
#

I don’t see the argument against making it easier to switch something off, rather than just unplug it

rare condor
#

^

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Americans are weirdly protective of their subpar wiring 🤔

lunar sundial
#

LOL

ocean mirage
#

Here’s the best bit though, you can just leave it on if you please

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It serves no different function then

rare condor
#

^^^^^

lunar sundial
#

@rare condor well some houses have aluminum wiring in the states too so....

unreal orbit
#

subpar wiring 🤣

last dirge
#

more shit to break

ocean mirage
#

How likely do you think that is

rare condor
#

^^

last dirge
#

@lunar sundial MOST houses in the states have aluminum wiring incoming to the panel

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some old houses have it actually leaving the panel and going to devices

lunar sundial
#

@last dirge I have bus bars going into my main breaker

dull chasm
#

for usa to be so bad everybody wants to compare to us 🤣

last dirge
#

my main breaker's outside at the meter

rare condor
#

Because its so poor, I really don't understand how your not dying

last dirge
#

aluminum from the transformer to the meter

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aluminum from the main breaker to the panel

dull chasm
#

i have been in 20+ countries @rare condor and all have there perks but still i would prolly not leave the us

last dirge
#

aluminum is absolutely fine as a conductor when sized properly and ONLY used with mechanical connections

ocean mirage
#

Most people wouldn’t leave their own country, no

rare condor
lunar sundial
#

i was referring to those houses with the wiring in the home being aluminum

dull chasm
#

@rare condor well if you want to be techincal i was born a japanese citizen in okiniawa .....and can return anytime ....

ocean mirage
#

I know it’d be low down on my list of preferred countries to live in

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But if I took that logically so would Australia

dull chasm
#

but for a country that has the top GDP ......us is tops

rare condor
#

I feel like this is getting to personal. Can we simply agree Australia has better Electrical Standards and move on?

dull chasm
#

nope

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its different and thats fine

ocean mirage
#

I don’t think of gdp as a factor in that

rare condor
#

^

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anyhow this is getting very close to politics

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NO POLITICS and BE CIVIL?

lunar sundial
#

don't say the P word 😛

ocean mirage
#

No to both

lunar sundial
#

👀

dull chasm
#

no its not .....nobody here from us ever i see saying anything bad about any where else but everywhere else what to talk bad about us

ocean mirage
#

I talk bad about most countries tbf

unreal orbit
#

Well that's simply not true

ocean mirage
#

And yeah lol that

green inlet
#

When people,post that Murica gif like it is a bad thing 🤣

dull chasm
#

well i am not here all the time ...but i see very little in here saying usa is better usually the other way

rare condor
#

I was posting it because its funny, I also love Team America, comfort movie

ocean mirage
#

I wonder why huh

green inlet
#

@dull chasm , it’s sour grapes

dull chasm
#

i have honestly never thought anywhere is better that anywhere else ....just different and thats a good thing

ocean mirage
#

Sure

tidal bronze
#

no its not .....nobody here from us ever i see saying anything bad about any where else but everywhere else what to talk bad about us
@dull chasm yep. I wonder where these "standards" came from at times....😆

dull chasm
#

@tidal bronze exactly

ocean mirage
#

I don’t have a problem with the USA geography or as a group of people

clever mortar
#

It's all about what you know... as humans we're comfortable with the known

ocean mirage
#

Countries are what I don’t like not the persons

rare condor
#

Countries are made up of people thou?

clever mortar
#

Countries are places, people are more

rare condor
#

Well then you get to a notion of national identity and culture.

ocean mirage
#

Governments are tied to countries, I’m just not trying to get political

clever mortar
#

For me, it's about the place and the culture

ocean mirage
#

Cause there’s too many mods about 🙂

rare condor
#

/ban everyone

#

Guys someone disabled my mod status please turn it back on quickly

ocean mirage
#

I mean I don’t tend to like what I see of what gets called American culture but same for Australian culture lol

clever mortar
#

Well, American culture... is (from what I've experienced) quite varied

ocean mirage
#

Yeah

clever mortar
#

That's a bit like lumping Europe together

green inlet
#

Right, what you see on the news is not typical us

last dirge
#

ehhhhhhhhh

green inlet
#

We do all make giant firework cannons for each of our arms and fire them off in our front yard every day though. That is straight up.

hushed basalt
#

It's every mans right to make fireworks arm cannons

rare condor
#

Just watched a video of my own city, pretty disgusted.

hushed basalt
tidal bronze
#

Anyone using Google assistant to close/open garage doors?

rare condor
#

Time to Enable Intel Quicksync

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ME

#

I use it with MQTT and HASS

unreal orbit
#

Through voice? That seems like a bad idea

rare condor
#

It asks for passcode

wet pilot
#

@tidal bronze i am

last dirge
#

@tidal bronze haven't tried assistant since Haaska still works

tidal bronze
#

Have you tried closing a closed door ?

rare condor
#

yes

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works fine

tidal bronze
#

Does it respect the state ?

wet pilot
#

not in the response but it doesn't do anything

rare condor
#

I have a Reed Switch to monitor state

wet pilot
#

"alright, closing the garage door" <does nothing>

rare condor
#

But it works for me

last dirge
#

they're the same picture

wet pilot
#

i just tested it because i never tried it 😛

tidal bronze
#

State is reported fine but still sends the commands.

rare condor
#

I have no issues, I generally use Garage Door when I am scooting back from nightlcubs and don't have key on me

green inlet
#

Google always tells me.......ok, closing the garage door. Check back later the learn the status of the garage door. When I do, she doesn’t understand.

#

Or maybe that is Siri lmao

tidal bronze
#

@wet pilot I have never tested but found put recently on mine that it sends the command out even if device class is set properly and reported to GA properly. Weird.

wet pilot
tidal bronze
#

Cover UI respects state but not if I call via GA or direct service call.

hushed basalt
#

I've never tried tricking it before

bitter pawn
#

welp im just going to have to disagree with alot of people here. there are some pretty bad effing countries in the world that i would never want to go to.

hushed basalt
#

Especially Norwat

clever mortar
#

Never go to Scotland...

#

The Haggis will eat you alive

tidal bronze
#

Love Scotland 😆

last dirge
#

Blarney Stones dropping on everybody's head

clever mortar
#

Those are Irish

last dirge
#

whatever

clever mortar
#

😛

last dirge
#

same shit

#

all drunks

#

😉

clever mortar
#

Only after sunrise

#

Before then it's still a hangover

rare condor
#

Guys dw, travel isn't a thing anymore so need to bother your stuck where you are live and accept 😛

bitter pawn
#

australia has those dropbears

last dirge
#

"no, I'm not hungover, I'm still drunk"

bitter pawn
#

and a million other animals that will kill you.

hushed basalt
#

We're not the country full of man eating animals

bitter pawn
#

you lie good sir

hushed basalt
#

Bears, mountain lions, gators

tidal bronze
#

@bitter pawn worked and traveled to 43 and counting. Never found a any place bad just different

bitter pawn
#

plenty of things to kill you in australia.

last dirge
#

did you see the video of that lady reporter they had all geared up in dirtbike "body armor" and played the dropbear trick on her?

rare condor
#

No Bears, No Mountain Lions

hushed basalt
#

Not really

rare condor
#

^

hushed basalt
#

I have seen a snake twice in 15 years

rare condor
#

We like that notion plays well for tourism

hushed basalt
#

Our spiders are probably less dangerous than yours

rare condor
#

Yeah No spider deaths since 1980s

hushed basalt
#

We don't have rattle snakes or killer scorpions

rare condor
#

^

hushed basalt
#

Killer wasps

rare condor
#

Snakes are rare

last dirge
#

know what Australia has a bunch of?

#

Asians

rare condor
#

true

hushed basalt
#

And English

bitter pawn
#

like i said

rare condor
#

We have a lot of Students (International)

bitter pawn
#

things that can kill you

#

xD

hushed basalt
#

/r/technicallytrue

last dirge
#

I was surprised at the amount of asian folks when I was in Sydney

bitter pawn
#

in america we were pretty quick to get rid of the english. xD

#

trololololz xD

rare condor
#

I live in a Surburb where the population is 60% Han Chinese

#

If you go to Perth there are barely any

hushed basalt
#

Heaps in Perth

last dirge
#

perth is southeast?

rare condor
#

No where near numbers of VIC/NSW

hushed basalt
#

True

#

A lot of Pakistan and Indians

rare condor
#

Perth is the most isolated place on Earth

#

*City

#

WA

hushed basalt
#

Western Australia

last dirge
#

Antarctica has entered the chat

hushed basalt
#

No cities though

rare condor
#

I miss Antartica

ocean mirage
#

The old ice wall

last dirge
#

so how 'bout this gigantic dust storm?

rare condor
#

I did work for BOM at Casey Base, complete failure, every single sensor failed so not going back lol

hushed basalt
#

It's 2700km from the nearest capital city

rare condor
#

meh only 3 day drive to SA 😛

hushed basalt
#

Imagine if LA was 2700km from the next major city

tidal bronze
#

We are not far from anything because of miles.

hushed basalt
#

It's so far the speed of light is too slow

rare condor
hushed basalt
#

Most likely

last dirge
#

would that dude be considered a bogan?

#

the guy in the thumbnail

rare condor
#

low key bogan

hushed basalt
#

I'd miss Australian women if i ever left though

#

And our coffee

#

Not too much else

unreal orbit
#

I think other countries have women too

hushed basalt
#

But not Australian women

rare condor
#

no sheilas

clever mortar
#

Given I work with a few - in the UK - evidence says otherwise

rare condor
#

I always hated that slang as an aside , still find it sexist as, even if its aussie slang

hushed basalt
#

I don't think I've ever heard an Australian say it

#

Maybe it's an easterner thing

rare condor
#

I have more bogan friends then I care to admit

ocean mirage
#

Only as a joke really

hushed basalt
#

Our bogans just say fuckin mole

rare condor
#

shelia isn't a slur thou

#

literally just used in place of "woman" or "girl"

hushed basalt
#

That fuckin mole ashley been going after my man im gonna fuck her up in the car park after school

#

Bogans are the worst haha

ocean mirage
#

I haven’t heard people use mole in ages

rare condor
#

see Its missing the use of c***

ocean mirage
#

Might have only gotten west recently

hushed basalt
#

Always one group fighting another group because someone slept with someone else

#

Then someone escalates things at a bogan party and king hits someone

#

And so the cycle continues

rare condor
#

My coworkers call me a sick c*** all the time. I still feel iffy about its use in the office

#

in fairness most of them are from NZ

hushed basalt
#

Depends on your circles

#

You also have the corporate types

ocean mirage
#

As far as work goes that’s not too bad

hushed basalt
#

Who are all professional until Melbourne cup or too many drinks at a sunday sesh

rare condor
#

What's up with American's in this channel I swear all the aussies disappear, then americans join then they disappear again?

hushed basalt
#

Then they're smashing bottles in the laneway for fun and dry humping statues

ocean mirage
#

Used to always hear racist remarks when I was near the group of ex cops

#

Big surprise

unreal orbit
#

We're just letting you have your alone time 🙂

last plaza
#

lol

rare condor
#

I didn't realise strip club was required at Christmas time with coworkers, can't stand it. so unconfortable

hushed basalt
#

One of the biggest scumbags i ever met was a cop

rare condor
#

haha

hushed basalt
#

Strip clubs are the worst

rare condor
#

100%

last plaza
#

Murrrrican cop?

ocean mirage
#

Required actually?

#

No surprise there telco

hushed basalt
#

Nothing I hate more than people being nice to you for money

unreal orbit
#

I'm not really sure what insight an American can add to a conversation about Australian culture anyway

last plaza
#

Apparently you don’t need education qualification to become a cop these days. With very little training anyone can become one.

hushed basalt
#

Something something crikey shrimp barbie dropbear

#

A lot of cops are just school bullies grown up

last plaza
#

There is more rigor for barbers to become a cosmetologist than for someone to become a cop.

bitter pawn
#

meh strip clubs are fun. because all the creeps come out and its entertaining to watch them struggle with conversations for dances.

last plaza
bitter pawn
#

and when that gets boring....theres always boobs.

unreal orbit
#

One of our friends is trying to become a cop. We are all begging him not to because it will most likely lead to us not being friends anymore. His personality is already borderline intolerable

last plaza
#

@scenic radish - it is time for you to switch to dark theme. I can’t bear to see your light theme screenshots.

bitter pawn
#

its just messed up if you go there looking for love or sex. thats just a dumb idea.

dull chasm
#

looking for love at all the wrong places 🤣 thats a old country song

green inlet
dull chasm
#

mine was much better tbh

willow coral
#

Anyone experience with the Pi 4?

#

I'm wondering how hot the thing might get, recently got one and I'm looking for a case

scenic radish
#

@scenic radish - it is time for you to switch to dark theme. I can’t bear to see your light theme screenshots.
@last plaza maybe you and the others who reacted just need to get their eyes checked for hyper-sensitivity 😛

rare condor
#

@willow coral Runs pretty hot but I don't think active cooling is required in most contexts

#

Just put in a case with a heatsink and be done with it

clever mortar
#

Active cooling can help though

#

Google will explain more

rare condor
#

I hate noise

#

and fans

clever mortar
#

Then you're buying the wrong fans

rare condor
#

I have Noctua Fans all below 30db

#

They were too loud so I put my computer in roof

#

and ran thunderbolt to dock

#

Had to buy new monitor because of inductor noise in LED monitor

#

I have hyper sensitivity to noise and I'm happy to spend money to limit it as much as possible

unreal orbit
#

Sounds like you should get some noise cancelling headphones/earbuds

rare condor
#

I have Active Cancelling Earphones which I sleep with

#

I would love to build a passive pc (powerful) one day, but its hard to get inductor noise specs on PCs

green inlet
#

@dull chasm , I have a wide range of likes when it comes to music. Last time I said something about country music in here, everyone 🤢

rare condor
#

🤢🤮🤠

#

g,night all 🌃 She'll be coming 'round the mountain when she comes (yee-haw) She'll be coming 'round the mountain when she comes (yee-haw) 🎶🪕

green inlet
#

@rare condor , google guavaween. One of the crazier street parties in the US outside of bourbon street. It’s in ybor city which is basically downtown Tampa. About 7 blocks of night clubs and restaurants. Pretty crazy every weekend but on Halloween. Of the chain.

clever mortar
#

Nothing wrong with some country 😉

#

Then again, my own musical tastes are broad

#

Classical through to (some) Metal, by way of Country, Bluegrass, Pop, Rock, and more

green inlet
#

I can’t do,my dog died and my wife left me country. I can however do the more modern day country

rare condor
#

@green inlet I take a look tomorrow its 1:43am here and I need to do some PLC wiring at 5:30am so might go to bed soon

unreal orbit
#

I don't mind some country, but the latest trend with this pop-country-rap atrocious

rare condor
#

night

clever mortar
#

Rap... 🤮

#

Some of the pop-country crossovers however are really good

#

We've all got our own tastes in music @rare condor 😉

#

My son enjoys rap 🤷

unreal orbit
#

I wouldn't lump all rap together. Mumble rap is the worst

clever mortar
#

Well, yes, maybe I've just not found any to my own taste...

#

Or, to quote a friend:

There's good Jazz, bad Jazz, and what time does the music start Jazz

willow coral
rare condor
#

Thats impressive

#

I like

#

Looks for 6v power supplies

unreal orbit
#

I tend to look at rap from more of a poetic perspective rather than a musical perspective. Musically most of it is boring or sampled from other music, but lyrically it can be very moving

clever mortar
#

I'd never thought of it like that 🤔

#

👍

unreal orbit
#

That said, some of it is trash both musically and poetically

clever mortar
#

Well, that's the case for all music (and "music")

#

There's good stuff, and why do folks pay for this stuff

#

And some was this written as a torture device stuff

unreal orbit
#

I like the fact that you are open to different perspectives rather than reflexively sticking to preconceived ideas

clever mortar
#

I learned a long time ago I don't know enough 😉

unreal orbit
#

The toughest lesson for some to learn

clever mortar
#

Then again, working in IT generally teaches you that...

#

The more I learn, the less I know

#

Or possibly that's just getting older...

unreal orbit
#

The scariest part about getting older to me

clever mortar
#

To be honest, my own experience isn't so much that I forget stuff (I always have), it's more that it's harder to sort the stuff that's relevant from the stuff that's just interesting

#

But... you never know when that 10, 20, 30 year old piece of knowledge or skill will come in handy. It's happened many times to me...

unreal orbit
#

Even at 27 I find it hard to mentally sort myself sometimes. Mindfulness meditation helps a lot

#

(for me)

clever mortar
#

I've been getting into meditation lately, and found it generally helps

#

I just need to make it more routine. Ironically it was easier when I was going to the office than it is now...

unreal orbit
#

Yeah actually taking the time out of the day to practice can be difficult

clever mortar
#

Doing a pre-sleep routine is normally easy enough, except when I'm tired...

willow coral
#

Is there a command over SSH or plugin that I can use to see the internal temperature? Generally on the Raspbian you can just use vcgencmd

scenic radish
brazen fable
scenic radish
#

the dude seriously spent two hours trying a total of 28 times? damn son

unreal orbit
#

I did something similar recently trying to get a refund for an airline ticket. Their website had no confirmation that the message had been sent. Too bad they didn't give me 28 refunds

last dirge
#

funny how the errors only happen in one direction

#

I think the white interior is goofy AF

#

"how can I make more stuff in my interior reflect onto the inside of the windows?"

scenic radish
#

some people here will be happy to know that i've started using metric for monitoring CPU/SSD temp

dull chasm
#

nope

clever mortar
#

If you're not using Kelvin you're behind the times

scenic radish
dull chasm
#

told ya

scenic radish
#

oh, do you use kelvin Vas?

clever mortar
#

Of course, you could be using Rankine, Rømer, Newton, Delisle, or even Réaumur...

dull chasm
#

no i measure in shades of green

scenic radish
#

lol...anyway, all the specs for operating temp for computer hardware appear to be in C so i figured i'd join the club. plus it's easier to remember the tjunction for my CPU is 90 C as opposed to 194 F

#

@dull chasm figured you'd measure in 50 shades of gray

clever mortar
#

It's probably really 195F, but was rounded to 90C 😛

dull chasm
#

wth is that

#

@scenic radish you are preveted

clever mortar
#

Open minded

scenic radish
#

preveted
GWchadThonkery

dull chasm
#

yea ok tink .....

scenic radish
#

anyway, this fanless mini PC likes to never go under 76 C so that's nice

dull chasm
#

@clever mortar ii got it .....open ended 🤣

#

measured in metric 🤣

last dirge
#

I'm sick of lazy people

clever mortar
#

So... you're saying you work in IT 🤔

#

😛

last dirge
#

so I tell the infrastructure guys "this app needs to be running SSL and needs to be configured to force secure redirects"

#

infrastructure guy manager: "sounds like you know what needs to be done, why don't you do it?"

clever mortar
#

Sounds... about typical

last dirge
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I want to point to the time a month ago where the CIO broke his foot off in the infrastructure manager's ass because they let certs expire in production

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and the CIO forced them to come up with a change management process including proactive reminders about stuff like that

scenic radish
last dirge
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and a document detailing how to change the bundle

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so sure, let's break that chain and throw in stuff outside of it

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also, I'm a CONTRACTOR at this place

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really wanna put the keys to the kingdom in my hands and not know what was done?

clever mortar
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But... that's how it's done!

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Documentation is for idiots. You don't need that. You don't need change control. That's all smoke and mirrors

last dirge
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infrastructure guy's boss "hey, we need to consolidate all of our web exposure to use this hardware and pull stuff off of apache"

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infrastructure guy "that thing you wanted running SSL isn't on the hardware thing so you handle it"

clever mortar
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Yup, I've worked in that kind of environment before - the "not my job guv" attitude

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I have "issues" with that

last dirge
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3 months ago they were about to install SSL on EVERYTHING in the entire stack down to and including the app servers because "we failed some security audit"

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so instead of the cert bundles being managed in one place they'd have to be managed on N servers

clever mortar
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😂

last dirge
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so I say "all you have to do is set this header on the network appliance and it'll fix that"

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so because I knew enough to tell them that, the guy's like "well you know what you want so do it yourself"

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but will they give me credentials or any meaningful access to the network appliance? no

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they were doing SSL offloading at the edge but weren't adding headers to tell everything down the chain that the request was originally a secure request

scenic radish
last dirge
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what happened about 3 weeks ago?

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memorial day weekend?

scenic radish
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Yeah

last dirge
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seems about right

scenic radish
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I think my entire state is still doing well because we won't open up wider until Friday

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Plus large events are still limited to 50 people or fewer

last dirge
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my state's chock full o yokels

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and my governor is a fool

scenic radish
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In fact, there can't be any large events of more than 50 until either a vaccine or "highly effective treatment" is developed, or until we have achieved herd immunity

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Which means my fiancee and I will almost certainly need to postpone our wedding reception :/

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It's for the greater good though

unreal orbit
scenic radish
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yes @fathom sparrow ?

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👀

fathom sparrow
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I was just gonna say my state is still going down

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but we are opening crap up

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slowly

forest edge
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covid for everyone!

unreal orbit
forest edge
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the lg wifi stuff for the refrigerator is dumb. it shows what you set the temps are set at, not what the current temps are.. i mean wtf lol

static schooner
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I couldn’t get the connection to stay up, or even connect at all sometimes for LG fridge

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Same for my SS washer/dryer. Complete waste of time

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Once the fridge connection fails, the only way to get it back is to pull the fridge out and pull the plug. Sheesh

forest edge
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Once the fridge connection fails, the only way to get it back is to pull the fridge out and pull the plug. Sheesh
@static schooner weird

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mine has buttons on the front that turn the wifi on/off

static schooner
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Mine does too, but it doesn’t help. It’s like it gets wedged

forest edge
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I know when i bought this fridge i had issues with it not staying connected to my network after a few days, but I do have to say once I started having HA poll it, it's been fine. maybe I wasn't looking at the app enough before to appease it lol

static schooner
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I figured that it might be due to my multiple Ubiquiti AP environment confusing it. IOT devices can be pretty dumb

last dirge
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FRIDGENET.LOCAL

static schooner
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So I created a single SSID attached to a single AP, and it was still super flaky

forest edge
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I wish who makes the integration can eventually add in more stuff, cause the app is able to pull everything from energy consumption to diagnostics info

static schooner
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That’s nice.

forest edge
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but evven the app dosen't show the current temps. just what you had set it too

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which is dumb

static schooner
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I ended up using wirelesstags for fridge/freezer temp and a power measuring outlet for washer/dryer

last dirge
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"power measuring outlet"

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you in one of those 240v countries?

static schooner
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No, ‘murica

last dirge
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you found a 240V outlet that monitors current?

forest edge
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?

static schooner
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Mine are 110 + gas

forest edge
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120 in usa brian lol

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they haven't made a 220 dryer in eons

static schooner
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Gas is so much cheaper than electric here that it would be crazy

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I do have a 220 outlet, but the house was built in the 80s.

forest edge
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I stand corrected. they still do make 240 dryers. i guess they linger

static schooner
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Some parts of the country have cheaper electricity, and there was an all-electric push years ago

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My apartment in the late 90s in GA was all electric

forest edge
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my grandparents had an electric 100 gallon water heater lol

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had to be the first model of it's kind

static schooner
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I didn’t pay much attention to electric rates until I moved to California

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And promptly installed solar

last dirge
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ah, gas dryer

static schooner
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Yes

last dirge
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@forest edge what are you on about?

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240V dryers are the rule, not the exception

static schooner
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A single 120v outlet handles both washer/dryer

last dirge
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one of those stacky things?

forest edge
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120vv dryers has been out for awhile, i thought they finally replaced the 240v ones

unreal orbit
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Probably gas powered

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(gas heating)

last dirge
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NG dryers are pretty rare in my experience

unreal orbit
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Not where I live

last dirge
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my other house had a NG hookup in the laundry room, don't think this one does

static schooner
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and not where I live

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gas hot water/gas dryer

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I wish I had gas air conditioning

forest edge
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gas is generally cheaper all over

last dirge
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I've got NG for my furnace, water heater(currently), and stove

static schooner
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oh, yeah. gas cooktop. electric oven, though

last dirge
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when my current water heater goes, it's getting replaced with a hybrid

static schooner
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made the mistake of running the self-cleaning cycle on my electric oven once. 4 hours of high heat

last dirge
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and you can't really abort it

unreal orbit
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Ha, yeah and if it starts smoking you just gotta open some windows

last dirge
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my "range" has a sabbath mode

forest edge
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use to clean the pizza sheet with the self oven clean mode when i was a teenager lol

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I didn't know at the time the heat was changing the molecular structure of the aluminum of the sheet and that was why it looked clean, not that it was just clean

bitter pawn
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i never really understood that feature

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because it doesnt clean anything. if anything it makes it worse

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shit gets burnt on and black

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this venzuelan chick i knew had her older sister do that shit all the time

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and then asked me to help clean it

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and i did. just to find carbon everywhere. and im like...how the fuck...aw self cleaning mode button worn out like a mother fucker.

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she got pissed that i didnt thank her for coming over? and i was like...naw im leaving. you dont invite people over to clean your shit.

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really really weird sisters, but she was cool

unreal orbit
bitter pawn
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hope you guys enjoyed story time

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^_^

bitter pawn
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goes back to corner

last dirge
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makin some salsa tonight

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gonna smoke the tomatoes first

unreal orbit
tidal bronze
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@last dirge any recommendations for garden edging material?

last dirge
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on a hill or no?

tidal bronze
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Slight slope not actually a hill

last dirge
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then none

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"natural edge"

tidal bronze
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I checked out the vigoro no dig stuff but lip is not tall enough. Trying to keep the mulch in place.

last dirge
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natural edge

tidal bronze
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😆 not enough.

last dirge
tidal bronze
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I watched this yesterday. Back yard might work not the front.

last dirge
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if you have to have something, the metal edging is way better than the plastic shit

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but you still should prep the edge like that video before installing the metal stuff

tidal bronze
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Copy.

wet pilot
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might work for me. our "soil" is all clay though which is a pain

last dirge
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@wet pilot same

unreal orbit
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I just discovered our backyard is almost completely clay. We're looking into amending with compost, but that takes forever

last dirge
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look into humic acid

tidal bronze
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Darn wild rabbits

last dirge
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Andersons makes a good product called Humic DG

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nEXT also makes a good product, it's liquid vs granules

unreal orbit
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Will that help with flooding though? I was under the impression the composition of the soil needs to be changed throughout

last dirge
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humic acid fixes soil compaction

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and helps "good things" in the soil

tidal bronze
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Going to try kelp on grass this weekend.

unreal orbit
last dirge
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that's a lot

unreal orbit
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Oh dang maybe it means 1 gallon of water+concentrate mixture.

last dirge
unreal orbit
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Ah okay, thank you!

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Cannot be shipped to California well f*** me

last dirge
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where do you see that?

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ah, I see it

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hahahaha

unreal orbit
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Welp, here goes nothin. A least my wife will be pleased to try a solution that is not $700 worth of compost

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Thanks for the advice!

forest edge
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quad swings by for a second and it all goes vegetables and grass lol

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someone needs to import some roo's here

last dirge
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@unreal orbit compost breaks down pretty quickly too

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and unless you do a LOT of work with clay, it'll mostly wash away

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you should do a soil test too

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@tidal bronze kelp4less usually has a sale on Fridays

unreal orbit
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Yeah the advice we were seeing was compost and rototill several times over the course of a few months

last dirge
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don't rototill

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you'll end up with insane weeds

unreal orbit
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We already have weeds 😆

last dirge
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anything that's preventing germination of seeds goes to hell if you till

unreal orbit
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We're completely redoing the backyard, there is no lawn yet