maybe @last dirge will buy and then i can put a go pro on it so he can visualize cutting a real yard
#the-water-cooler
dull chasm
tidal bronze
Can't believe we don't have Wi-Fi enabled speaker controls
last dirge
nothing says "good quality analog audio" quite like RF interference
generator goes on sale at Costco on the 24th
we've had more power outages at the house in the past 2 moths than we have had the 7 years living here so I convinced the wife to get one
just have to make a double-ended 14-50 cable to backfeed the house
and remember to throw the cutoff to the grid
tidal bronze
That Costco generator is nice even supports Natural Gas
dull chasm
methane?
last dirge
supports gasoline, LP, and CNG
it's interesting how the output ratings change due to energy density of the fuel
tidal bronze
What's the max output on natural gas
dull chasm
depends if taco or refried
tidal bronze
That's not bad at all
last dirge
I gotta figure out how I can get the thing home
dull chasm
in the truck
last dirge
no tengo camion
ehhh, maybe not so good of a deal
reviews are saying the generator (the part not the whole assembly) is crappy and produces a lot of electrical noise
boo, guess I'll hold off on that
brisk glen
apple is dumping intel
clever mortar
Again?
clever mortar
From Moto to ARM to Intel to ARM... what's next 🤔
Oh, 6502 before Moto... silly me
dull chasm
candie canes and butterflies?
brisk glen
just arm, they really pride on having ios appps/games just run on mac without any modification
they also have a decent x86 translator
can game ok
unreal orbit
The negatives of a magnetic cover when your bench top is messy 🤦♂️
orchid rose
static schooner
Lol, I have twist ties stuck to my cover all the time
last dirge
like from bread bags?
static schooner
like that, yeah. my cats love them and carry them around the house, and then my iPad cover inevitably "finds" them
turbid stirrup
Good evening> Lol. Excited to try these out. https://www.snapav.com/shop/en/snapav/episode-reg%3B-landscape-series-burial-subwoofer-with-12-woofer-(each)
@tidal bronze
LOL
Putting the "sub" back in subwoofer!
static schooner
Exhibit A
turbid stirrup
Sounds like I need a cover like that... Ice and Fire (my cats) would hate it though!
forest edge
shouldn't you have a button that says something like FrankinPiCluster? lol
@dull chasm how many acres?
dull chasm
5
lofty zealot
I really hope the Home Assistant developers will add widgets to control our lights without opening the app for IOS 14. Just like these widgets
unreal orbit
It looks like they function the same as Today View widgets, which the HA app already supports
lofty zealot
HA iOS only supports actions but they are a pain to setup
static schooner
I’d like something more like what’s available on the watch
Define a template to display info
unreal orbit
A pain to setup? It was super easy when I tried it
lofty zealot
We will see what the devs will come up with. We recently got a big bug fix list with the app
The actions are only on the left side with the widgets not yet for the new IOS 14 widgets.
When I tried I couldn’t get the actions working
hushed basalt
hushed basalt
@last dirge laughs in 415v three phase
hushed basalt
Regarding hotswaps. You can definitely buy generic hotswap enclosures.
There's cases from random Russian brands to supermicro etc.
And you can get hotswap cages that fit into multiple 5.25" bays
Toolless bays have pros and cons.
But to be honest we don't really need hotswap in home use. It's okay to reboot a server to change a hdd
bitter pawn
but hotswapping drives is cool.
the combination i like the most is to get this iStar rackmount.
and then match it up with these kingwin HDD cages.
i was able to get the earlier revision ones that were lik $50 as opposed to $80
so i would pay about $280-ish for a decent rackmount with 8 bay hotswap and 2 internal hdds
green inlet
Damn, I tried to pull a @scenic radish with Xbox reactions and failed miserably. Can’t do two Xs
😪
scenic radish
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooob
green inlet
Lmao.....no doubt
What is all this drive swapping hot mess talk. The lounge is for celcuis vs Fahrenheit talk.
hushed basalt
And our superior 240v single phase
120v centre tap 🤢
May as well run your houses off mountain lions in hamster wheels
green inlet
@hushed basalt , you obviously didn’t watch the video to the end where he makes fun of aussies.
hushed basalt
I did
green inlet
I thought that video was very informative....
green inlet
Lmao
green inlet
Only love for you sir
I did see a video of two Roos fighting today and thought it was funny
Was going to post but figured that would only be the 10000000 video of its kind you have seen
@hushed basalt , do you ever actually reach down to outlet level and turn off the switch?
hushed basalt
Yeah every time we unplug something
green inlet
Lmao
hushed basalt
Or want to switch something off at the mains
Our appliances rarely have hard switches on them
green inlet
If you unplug, why do you need to turn off? Cause 240 volts?
hushed basalt
It's not good to pull things out under load
Plus we can turn things off without unplugging them
Most powerboards don't have switched on them though
green inlet
Auh, you appliances don’t have switches 👍🏻
hushed basalt
Your appliances have switches because your outlets don't ;)
green inlet
See, that simple little cultural difference is so cool to me
hushed basalt
Plus it means we can have something still connected to earth but not have electricity in it
Say working on a PC case
green inlet
Yea, without starting a war, I have worked on tons of desktops and never cared about ground 😉
But suppose if it was as easy as flipping a switch I would do it
hushed basalt
You should google ESD electron microscope
green inlet
I did, when the last lounge war happened
🤣
It’s all good. It just cool to me that we are both on the same earth and someone decided your way on your part of the earth and someone decided our way on our side of the earth. With no real reason why for either one
green inlet
But they were deciding switches on outlets vs switches on appliances
hushed basalt
Probably driven by cost savings vs risk assessment
green inlet
How many people die a year from 240 volts?
green inlet
Which is a good case for 120......what did they call it....shifting?
hushed basalt
Tradies are the most common to be hurt
I think it's probably 50 people a year at a guess
hushed basalt
We probably have a much lower occupant electrocution ratio than yours though
green inlet
Electrician, plumber, roofer
last plaza
240v doesn’t kill you. I touched 240v many times.
ocean mirage
Depends how specific you want to be
hushed basalt
Contractors?
green inlet
Probably. Laborers
Contractors
Blue collar
From here forward. Tradies though
Maybe it will trend
hushed basalt
Tradies typically refers to tradesmen who go out and work on premesis
So you wouldn't call an electrician at a power plant a tradie generally
I don't think people call people who work for utilities tradies either. It's all a bit fussy
But generally people are referring to people who work on construction or maintenance who drive out every morning at 6-7am
green inlet
I think we figured out why Ska is just a little off 😳
240v doesn’t kill you. I touched 240v many times.
dull chasm
but 480 hurts alot
static schooner
don't worry, you'll feel nothing at all
last plaza
@green inlet i wasn’t joking. I really touched it intentionally and accidentally many times, and I’m still alive 😎
dull chasm
oh you feel it ...i been hit twice
last plaza
Definitely
dull chasm
yep its all about how well you complete a circuit ...plain and simple
last plaza
Never went above 240 though. Next one usually 440 for industrial motors and such, never tried to stick my finger in there 😝
scenic radish
Hell, current from even less potential than 240V can kill you
green inlet
I posted recently about 120 hits and my electrician neighbor was very concerned.
dull chasm
exactly see my point above
green inlet
The internet was on same circuit as switch I was working on. Would rather risk 120 than hear kids scream about internet outage.
But my normal practice is to kill the breaker
Cause I have seen 120 put holes in screw driver tips
dull chasm
i do it both ways depending on the circuit and potential to complete circuit ...if its just hot wires and i cant complete the circuit ...i dont bother turning it off
scenic radish
I always cut power
hushed basalt
You complete the circuit through ground
green inlet
But if you are playing with neutral wires you can absolutely complete the circuit right?
dull chasm
i know i do it for a living
yes nuetral and ground eventually lead to same place ....
so yes you can complete circuit
static schooner
I also always cut the power to the circuit and my friends think it's silly. "Just wear rubber gloves..."
scenic radish
This gave me a good laugh when I stumbled across it one day: https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/100511/why-dont-you-connect-unused-hot-and-neutral-wires-to-complete-the-circuit
static schooner
lol
hushed basalt
What do you do Vasiley
scenic radish
"the breaker didn't work"
No dumbass, it did work, and kept you from creating an electrical fire
Presumably you don't install jumper wires across each outlet every time you unplug something, right?
Lololol
static schooner
gotta do it fast or the electrons leak out
tough igloo
@hushed basalt 55 people died from electrocution is Australia in 2015-16. That includes people killed by lightning strike
static schooner
like plugging a leak
scenic radish
The other half were... indentured servants?
wet pilot
Prisoners
tough igloo
Chained in a wine cellar
scenic radish
Ew I don't like wine
scenic radish
Probably at least 1 higher
tough igloo
Don’t bother googling the US it’s all about the electric chair...
scenic radish
Hey now
hushed basalt
They probably report all their deaths as ketchup overdose anyways
scenic radish
Lmao
tough igloo
The first page of google is all about killing people on purpose with the electric chair 😆
hushed basalt
So industry bodies don't have more "red tape"
scenic radish
America bad amirite
tough igloo
Hey now, don’t be so hard on yourself guy
hushed basalt
It's not your fault
green inlet
Or the rest of us freedom lovers
wet pilot
Keywords are "accidental electrocution"
hushed basalt
One day you'll be able to power 5kw of servers off your free hydro power like Norway
hushed basalt
Probably blacksite
green inlet
Maybe he tied the two wires together with a wire nut
dull chasm
for america to be so bad ...i wonder why we have such a high immrigration issue
hushed basalt
Resistance is bad. So if there's no resistance then it means my circuit is infinitely efficient
scenic radish
Do you guys like Wendy's?
tough igloo
Wendy who?
green inlet
🤢
scenic radish
Wendy's nuts smack you in the face?
hushed basalt
We don't have wendys
tough igloo
Yeah love it!
hushed basalt
Not as you know it
scenic radish
You missed the joke telco
green inlet
Or nuts
tough igloo
Anyway there doesn’t seem to be a standard source for “accidental” electrocution is the US
green inlet
Darwin Awards
tough igloo
But still I would guess it’s roughly the same
hushed basalt
Higher risk lower impact
tough igloo
Per capita
scenic radish
I'll have to ask my friend who's a sparky
hushed basalt
You're much more likely to be shocked in the USA i bet
But impact is lower
Their current loss of conductors in their walls also has a nice side benefit in winter
scenic radish
Man IPAs are so good...I've been drinking shit beer all throughout covid
wet pilot
Numbers I found while loosely checking included accidental contact with overhead wiring
ocean mirage
This mans out here drinking Isopropyl Alcohol
hushed basalt
Overhead wiring is no joke
wet pilot
Nope
tough igloo
Ok the CDC NIOSH has some info. Anyway time to unfreeze my work laptop
hushed basalt
Have you tried microwaving it
green inlet
Just turn off the outlet switch
tough igloo
The oven is preheating
hushed basalt
Low voltage 240v is one thing. But screw being anywhere near 10kv
wet pilot
Yeah, that stuff you usually have to try to hit though
But it's still pretty nuts. You can put a florescent light tube in the ground under those lines and it'll light up
wet pilot
Usually has to be a crane here
hushed basalt
Or even a window cleaner pole
green inlet
Bucket truck.
scenic radish
Trucket buck
green inlet
Those bucket trucks can get crazy high
wet pilot
Driving you'd get taken out by a bridge before you'd hit a power line
hushed basalt
I'm not sure if high voltage distribution is as far away as you think it is
wet pilot
30 ft is the minimum above water
But to keep it simple they probably just use the same poles everywhere
For the kV stuff at least
Even the local transmission is 480 or so though
hushed basalt
We're 415v on the customer side of the transformer
Probably 11kv on the other side
dull chasm
7kv 14.4 or 28 depending on where you are in the grid
lunar sundial
reminds me of having to play with 2000A breakers at my old job 😛
the ones you gotta pump to get them to reset
green inlet
I was going to say, I think they go higher than 11
dull chasm
thats normal tranmission ...not the ones on the big steel towers
hushed basalt
6.6, 11, 22 or 33 here
Kv
Not very far away at all in terms of height
Especially if you're working on 2 storey or greater houses
green inlet
You guys have sweet potato pie in Australia ?
green inlet
Man, you should come to the US just for sweet potato pie 😉
hushed basalt
I've had it made for me by an american
It's nice
They probably were upset they couldn't get HFCS though hehe
green inlet
If it tasted the same.....🤷🏼♂️
bitter pawn
@green inlet ....wow. first time someone has made a sister reference joke before me. i tip my hat in your general direction good sir.
hushed basalt
It's whipped egg whites and caster sugar baked, then topped with fresh whipped cream and fruit
green inlet
Auh. Kinda like meringue?
lunar sundial
i've had it before
hushed basalt
It's really a christmas dish
lunar sundial
the director of my division is from new Zealand, she made some over the holidays
green inlet
That’s like meringue cake though
ocean mirage
love a good pav
lunar sundial
nah it's not like meringue
ocean mirage
its really its own thing
bitter pawn
what is your take on the aborigines @hushed basalt ?
lunar sundial
way fluffier and light
green inlet
I like anything classified as a desert
ocean mirage
what
bitter pawn
last australian i talked to hated them with a blind hatred and a fury of 1000 suns.
ocean mirage
yeah I mean we have plenty of racists
hushed basalt
It's definitely meringue. It's just good meringue
bitter pawn
i was told they love their liquor
hushed basalt
This will get pol instantly
bitter pawn
xD
hushed basalt
But it's complicated
ocean mirage
also fyi aborigine is not the preferred word, its got a bad history. indigenous australians is better
bitter pawn
ah understood
lunar sundial
figured they'd go with 'Native Australians'
bitter pawn
dont want to be mixed up with native americans i bet.
ocean mirage
I've not really seen that used but I guess its unlikely to cause offense
bitter pawn
ive also seen the videos. most of you australians on the road with bicycles are asshats
ocean mirage
haha
There are a lot of fuckwits on the road in general
Cyclists are mostly fine, you just notice the bad ones
bitter pawn
my favorite one was when a small mini got on the bike path because bicyclists were taking up the road.
the look on them was priceless.
ocean mirage
haha
bitter pawn
they were getting all pissy yelling "OY! THATS FOR US MATE!"
like...uh....then why arent you using it. xD
ocean mirage
The road in front of my old school was apparently confusing enough that people would unintentionally drive in the bike lane
bitter pawn
well thats an easy mistake. you drive on the wrong side of the road.
lunar sundial
lol
bitter pawn
trolololololz xD
lunar sundial
they have a better system of measurement tho
lunar sundial
if they rebranded metric to 'freedom standard unit' we'd adopt it faster 😛
ocean mirage
tfw your units arent free 😔
hushed basalt
Definitely a lot of jerk cyclists out there
bitter pawn
i hate lanesplitters so damn much
ocean mirage
Yeah, same as drivers
bitter pawn
motorcycles/bicycles/trikes, you lane split i hate you.
ocean mirage
like I used to be pretty angry at cyclists in general but if you really count em then most of them are fine
hushed basalt
It seems I hate most people
lunar sundial
there only supposed to lane split at low speed like under 20mph
hushed basalt
Commuters are generally fine
lunar sundial
just hate everyone equally and you'll be fine 😉
hushed basalt
It's yuppies who go morning group riding seem to be the worst
ocean mirage
People get so much hate for lane splitting here even in situations where its good
and its recently become legal
bitter pawn
i hate lane splitters because they rush through and if you are trying to merge they either get all pissy OR they knowingly try to crash into you OR they are going well above 20mph and cant stop in time
green inlet
We have a lot of two lane country roads where I live. Tons or cyclists in groups. They can stack cars 10 deep
ocean mirage
most lane splitting here is just at traffic lights and it works well
its better than not doing it
lunar sundial
@bitter pawn make sure you have those dash and bumper cams going 😉
bitter pawn
what i hate worse is when they lane split just to get in front of you and then have to pedal like mad just to get up to speed.
hushed basalt
Cyclists who get annoyed at cars swerving around then on the road, who have an "I'm entitled to be here get over it" attitude are always the same ones who swerve and push to the side pedestrians on the shared paths
bitter pawn
and yer like...cmon asshole you didnt HAVE to get in front of me
lunar sundial
wait you're saying your bicyclists follow the road rules and actually STOP at lights?
bitter pawn
i need to get some for both of my cars.
lunar sundial
90% of them here blow thru red lights
hushed basalt
Car driver: bloody cyclists, you're slowing me down why should I have to go slower to be behind you.
Cyclist: bloody pedestrians, you're slowing me down why should I have to go slower to be behind you l.
lunar sundial
and stop signs
bitter pawn
idk i always thought it was messed up bicycles are supposed to be on the road in the US
hushed basalt
Motorcyclists have huge fatality rates but a lot of them are at fault tbh
bitter pawn
where sidewalks are perfectly fucking fine if you arent going for lance armstrong speeds.
green inlet
Urban dictionary definition of lane splitter
When excess underwear traffic squeezes in on your crotch rocket. You have to find some breathing room, commit to a line and hope everything stays in its designated lane.
bitter pawn
reversed over?
hushed basalt
Cars coming out of driveways
bitter pawn
ah gotcha
lunar sundial
that's why it was mandated cars in the US have reverse cams now
hushed basalt
You just need cities to put in bike lanes
bitter pawn
which some still dont -_-
hushed basalt
I would say that's more for reversing over toddlers
lunar sundial
too many people getting backed over
bitter pawn
because some manufacturers are cheap AF bastards that somehow cheat the system.
lunar sundial
@bitter pawn i think the loophole is collision detection warnings
bitter pawn
yeah those safety features are nice.
hushed basalt
Any company that doesn't put reverse cameras in their workers vans/trucks are scum
lunar sundial
my EV has 360 camera kinda nice
bitter pawn
i just got a car with all the safety bells and whistles minus the automatic parallel parking 😦
i was looking forward to that feature...
hehehe my company doesnt
we only have like 2 in our fleet that have them.
xD
lunar sundial
many companies double the reverse cam as bumper cam too
bitter pawn
the auto collision started beeping on the highway this morning.
hushed basalt
Lots of companies will jump up and down about health and safety
bitter pawn
while i knew the slow down was coming, it just annoyed me as i was paying attention to the road
hushed basalt
And do very little to actually improve it
It's such a high impact thing to do, put in reversing cameras
Less car park collisions too
bitter pawn
of course because it actually costs the company money to do something
as opposed to just preaching and firing people
hushed basalt
Makes backing into bays viable which is far safer
lunar sundial
lane keeper assist can be kind of annoying when getting on to the freeway
bitter pawn
the way ford doesnt isnt so bad
it doesnt beep at you but slightly moves the steering wheel back into the lane
and it vibrates the wheel a little
hushed basalt
I'd love those features
What's it like driving a car with adaptive cruise control and lane assist
lunar sundial
mine just moves the wheel for you, beeps if you don't place tension on the wheel, kinda like tesla's driver alert thing
bitter pawn
well testing the adaptive cruise is like testing the automatic braking system. you dont do it in a new car xD
but when it comes up its kinda reassuring its there?
i think ford wanted it to be an aid
not a crutch
so i can agree with that. people shouldnt be depending on this tech like it will always work
hushed basalt
Aids definitely prevent more accidents than they cause
lunar sundial
mine does it sometimes even when my hands are on the wheel and im fully alert lol
hushed basalt
Like when helicopters were new
bitter pawn
when they are used as aids
hushed basalt
Pilots had to manually control them
bitter pawn
not as crutches or supplements
hushed basalt
As in keeping them at altitude and straight
Then pilots would get fatigued and then be more likely to have an accident
Country driving tires me out so much
bitter pawn
well thats more of an apples and oranges type of comparison there
bitter pawn
i can understand way more R&D being spent on supplemental aids for aviation.
and it actually fucking work every time
but with safety warning aids, being just that, a driver aid. one shouldnt become overly dependent on them
only exception i can think of is the self driving car type where that is its main feature is you arent supposed to be squarely focused on the road
but even then tesla has a disclaimer on that as well. so idk
xD
hushed basalt
I trust driver aids over most drivers :D
Especially since we both have lax driver license standards
tidal bronze
@hushed basalt no handsfree driving in Australia right ?
hushed basalt
I am not sure
I am almost certain you can't though
We can't even fill up petrol without holding the trigger down
And you get fined for going 3km over the speedlimit
110km, okay. 113km, fine.
ocean mirage
depends on the state afaik, and I think most tolerances rule out that sort of difference being enforcable
hushed basalt
They have a "speeding is speeding" attitude
But have 2km leeway for margin of error
hushed basalt
Tolerance is the difference between the speed detected by a speed camera and the speed at which police allege the driver was travelling. The difference always favours the driver and is applied to allow for drivers who inadvertently exceed the speed by a small amount for a short period and to cover any measurement variations.
For example the Vitronic PS unit has a tolerance of +/- 1 km/h. This means a vehicle's speed detected as 60 km/h could be 61, 60 or 59 km/h. Therefore the WA Police Force remove the 1 km/h from the detected speed in all instances to give the benefit to the driver.
km/h over the speed limit Penalty Demerits
Not more than 9 km/h $100 0
More than 9km/h but not more than 19 km/h $200 2
I was wrong, it's only 1km
so if you're going 112km in 110km zone you can be fined $100/$200
It's such a toxic attitude that does nothing to address road fatalities
But provides unlimited revenue
ocean mirage
oh wow
lunar sundial
i'd rather the police fine the ones driving while on their cell
ocean mirage
easier to just do speeding I assume
lunar sundial
or the ones reading emails while driving
ocean mirage
the police are not about public safety
this just made me remember a colleague saying that its impossible to not speed cause you'd have to be watching your speedo nonstop and that takes a lot of time
i guess with a 1km/h margin of error hes not wrong lol
lunar sundial
if they want to make money, at least im my state, they'd just have to camp the HOV lane and issue out the fines like candy
ocean mirage
HOV lane?
ocean mirage
ah okay
yeah we have things like that I can't think of what they are called
'the extra overtaking lane' 😉
lunar sundial
people use it for that here too
if the police just patrolled that lane here, they'd make tons of cash
$500+ fine per violation
I usually zip down that lane with the flow of traffic at about 113km/h heh
sometimes closer to 120
hushed basalt
Yeah it's an antipattern
There's studies that show that given no speed limits 85% of drivers will drive at or below a certain speed
Slower than that it feels too slow
Higher than that it feels too fast
That's the ideal speed limit
Not some arbitrary bullshit they make up
Plus needle watching makes most drivers less attentive to the road, therefore more likely to crash and have an accident
And the most fatal accidents are getting t boned which can be fatal even below 50kmh
So speed kills is just bullshit. Causes more deaths and makes us poorer at the same time
You can pretty much drive as dangerously as you want as long as you don't text, speed or drink
scenic radish
Not really sure about that last point lol
wet pilot
thick dragon
The other interesting thing to note is that car speedos are generally tuned around 5% below the listed speed. So if it says you're going 100km/hr, you're likely going 95km/hr. That's why the tolerances are so tight in Australia, because you'd need to be going well above the reported speed in your car to be considered speeding.
Have confirmed this using Google Maps' speed tracking feature.
ocean mirage
they have displays on some highways that display your 'actual' speed
which yeah, always show that
wet pilot
Add in that radar is only accurate to +/- 3 mph or so
Lidar +/- 1
And that's assuming they have calibrated it recently
Using us made up metrics
bitter pawn
^
torpid pelican
Does anyone know how to make actions for the iOS app, the documentation seems to say lots of stuff except how to make one. I'm not sure where i can add the sequence/commands. After I make the action in the app, do i then have to make a corresponding automation with the actionName as part of it? or do i just put commands in the lower portion of the ios app details? (it says "example trigger") which makes me think that is not where it goes
static schooner
But this goes into some detail: https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/core/actions/
torpid pelican
Thanks @static schooner appreciate your help
I was on that page for a while, but I figured it out
clear ferry
Windows Upgrade Assistant stopping at 31% for 40 minutes so far, pretty sure it won't proceed
Great job M$ 
hushed basalt
LXC looks pretty cool
Not quite vms, not docker
Also you're alive
Tediore wanted to pick your corpse for server parts
clear ferry
LXC looked like shite to me by a quick glance
but I haven't studied it much
Also
hushed basalt
What looked shite
forest edge
picture swaps so quick it looks like he's holding a cane. so yea, you would be prying that from his cold dead hands lol
rare condor
LXC ❤️
clear ferry
well it's mostly a ubuntu thing it seems, and why would I use LXC when I have two virtualization platforms and docker ?
hushed basalt
Different usecases
Docker is more for lightweight disposable services
LXC seems to be more like VM uses but without the dedicated memory assignment
clear ferry
"dedicated memory" is vague
a Vmware VM will not consume more than needed
and the hypervisor will return the unused memory if needed
hyper-v pre 2012 was another story
oH YouR VM wAnTS 4GB rAM, TheN NooNE ElsE cAN usE thAt MemOry!"
hushed basalt
@haxxa how did your exam go
clear ferry
exams 🤢
hushed basalt
Citizen, you have been selected for random assessment
clear ferry
I saw there is a huge sahara dustcloud headed to the US now
2020 is great
make 2020 great again
clear ferry
clear ferry
unfair to post spoilers of the upcoming 2020 elections @clever mortar
clever mortar
We're electing our next pandemic now?
clear ferry
yes, I vote for something without bleeding orifices
rare condor
Wait the new Macs have locked bootloaders? There goes dream of Linux on ARM based MAC 😥😥
forest edge
yes, I vote for something without bleeding orifices
@clear ferry with what you eat I don't see how it would be any different from your norm 😜
clear ferry
yes to more raw meat
rare condor
@hushed basalt I got 100% - 11% for failing to finish writing in the 3 hour window.
So happy enough
Exam tomorrow is the real nasty one, 50/50 I will fail it
forest edge
@clear ferry do Norwegians treat the worms you end up ingesting or do you all just view them as little helpers?
clear ferry
We have so clean food I can't actually say I have ever heard of anyone having worms
except dogs
light trout
177.5 toasters
hushed basalt
@rare condor are you sharing nfs in proxmox
clear ferry
NFS should pretty pretty similar regardless of it being run on a shitty hypervisor 🤣
hushed basalt
Yeah I'm trying to use zfs shares to do it but it's not being picked up by kubernetes
But I don't know if it's zfs nfs sharing, or kubernetes
And I can't mount nfs in WSL to test it
Sigh I'll have to try mounting it inside another vm
forest edge
replacement parts came in to fix my litter robot and I notice these two metal clips and wondered what they were for
tear apart the litter robot and find out that for some reason there are two leads coming off the sensor I had to replace that connect to these clips and these clips essentially just touch one another
I cannot for the life of me understand the point of it
other than maybe to add a failure point in the unit
had this thing for almost 2 years now and the sensor failed and when I looked at how the clips were on mine before replacing them i could see some litter and gunk got up onto those clips
almost thinking that is why went wrong. they weren't able to make a connection because crap got inbetween the clips that are only touching one another by tension
craziest thing i ever seen on a commercial product
clear ferry
I got tired of waiting for a customer to throw out a single phase UPS, so I ordered a 2200VA one last week
only $150 new
molten osprey
So, for reasons too frustrating to get into, I have an externally facing port 6111 which internally links to port 443 where nginx proxies to HA.
When I curl this from outside my home network, this works.
Then I configure the HA iOS app:
- Internal URL = https://hostname:443 (local DNS resolves to local IP)
- External URL = https://hostname:6111 (external DNS resolves to external DNS, port forwarding set on router)
- WiFi = my wifi network
and then ... when I'm on my wifi network, it uses the external link anyway, and it actually works. but when it's not on my wifi network, it does not work.
(browser, over mobile data, does work!)
wt.....????
velvet horizonBOT
forest edge
this channel is only for those looking to get atx and quadflight to send them free crap since they apparently have an over abundance access to stuff
rare condor
@hushed basalt the way I do it is I have this storage passed through to LXC containers and then I ran samba shares and NFS shares through the container or the virtual machine. No shares are ran on the host
clear ferry
hushed basalt
So you're running zfs itself inside lxc?
dull chasm
@forest edge no @tidal bronze has gotten uncanny access to deals i need 🤣
forest edge
I often wonder if quad wears some kind of hat/helmet that allows him to attach tablets or phones so he can browse/purchase/trade 24/7 regardless where or what he is doing
forest edge
lol yea right
dull chasm
i am open for ideas
my backup plan is give 15k down next june ....but thats gonna hurt the wallet
forest edge
do you only need one for a few days or something?
clear ferry
dull chasm
no will be maintaining a 1000ft drive and cutting 5 acres
dull chasm
i would end up in jail
forest edge
I generally see old tractors on craigslist for reasonably cheap
clear ferry
I thought craigslist was just hookers and handjobs
dull chasm
yea i thought about that route but at 50 a new one would last me till i become dirt
forest edge
@clear ferry wrong side of the pond lol
I dunno if the "newer" ones would last that long to be perfectly honest
clear ferry
jeebus creebus, I just opened up craigslist for the first time in my life
it looks like internet in the 90s
forest edge
lol
dull chasm
it should the engine i am getting is very tried and tested
forest edge
it's not just about the engine
dull chasm
plus i need the convience factors of new one's with the wife
forest edge
nothing uses actual gearboxes these days lol
clear ferry
https://giphy.com/gifs/theorchard-cowboy-mustache-3og0IPBqPoRlrneSQM here we go with sonoma the farmer again
forest edge
don't be jealous
clear ferry
your gray hair is probably sexy
forest edge
you wish you could look that good at my age lol
forest edge
post a picture, lets see how far your off lol
oh wait, you'll say they don't make that "wide" of a lens .. nm
|| jk ||
dull chasm
yea right 🤣
clear ferry
what about unread beard ?
clear ferry
it's not your fault, aussies ain't literate
ocean mirage
I bet im gonna be mad when I learn what that means
forest edge
how the hell do you search through repos for hacs that are not already installed?
ugh I really dislike this new whatever lol
nm i i have to hit the add button
forest edge
it's still more confusing then what it was before lol
fading zodiac
@ocean mirage Did anyone did tag mods again?
forest edge
someone did the other day and they were thankful for it
you should try it again, sure you'll get a much better response than last time
clever mortar
Revokes Jedi role for trolling
clear ferry
@møds ?
light trout
?warn @clear ferry Stop joking with that
slim rampartBOT
atxbyea#0001 has been warned.
clear ferry
😦
green inlet
Back under 12 hours and already causing trouble 🤣
clear ferry
😦
late gate
am I missing some gossip?
clear ferry
I can't even demod myself!
clear ferry
op me cause I'm lame
hushed basalt
/slap
clear ferry
😦
forest edge
i don't get why i decide to work on my HA after being up all night lol
green inlet
It’s a magical force in which the physics of pull is exponentially stronger than the physics of push.
clear ferry
cloud push ?
green inlet
edge push cause cloud push is so 2019
Does anyone else frequently and loudly claim they vacuumed the house merely because they were the one who setup the automation that initiates the roborocks to do the same?
Like, “I am exhausted, I just spent the entire morning vacuuming the downstairs”
forest edge
wat
green inlet
Go to bed Sonoma
fading zodiac
@hushed basalt i love IRC
It was the best chat app imho
However, the idiots who abused it ruined it 😦
midnight adder
Can I ask everyone to submit Home Assistant into this Product Support Request page? https://brillianttech.wufoo.com/forms/z1cp168f0ert6uy/
last dirge
no way, ICQ was far superior
midnight adder
I really want to start using these switches, but they have not provided support for Home Assistant yet
midnight adder
of course if you dont ask it never comes
last dirge
if they don't have an open API then Home Assistant can't support it
unless someone can figure out their protocol
forest edge
no way, ICQ was far superior
@last dirge do not knock ICQ. it was awesome in it's prime
last dirge
also in my comment you'll not the past tense of "to be"
midnight adder
ok, lets just continue to do nothing and not even share our desires and potential market. As you know stick your head under a pillow...
green inlet
Or, buy devices HAss already supports🤔. Am I truly sticking my head under a pillow if I don’t own, or plan to own, any of those devices?
last dirge
those devices that require their "hub" to operate
forest edge
I remember that company showcase at ces
midnight adder
unless anyone knows of professional looking wall mounted displays..... not $50 tablets stuck on a wall in a 3rd party case
the Billiant devices look nice and are easy to use for non-IT people
forest edge
it likely has an api
hearty depot
thanks for letting me feel old as F Sonoma
clear ferry
You are old as f
hearty depot
:xdoubt:
last dirge
says the guy pushin 50
clear ferry
midnight adder
it likely has an api
@forest edge I have asked them about API access and they said nothing was available. (but I dont know if that is no available, or not supported)
clear ferry
no christmas present for @last dirge
tell him what he is missing out on @scenic radish
hearty depot
I am 😄 but only 6 years when I remember right
and I was shocked that you are so young
scenic radish
Things @last dirge
green inlet
He isn’t pushing 50, he just looks like he is pushing 50 🤣
forest edge
@midnight adder just means the person on the phone doesn't have a clue.
oh no Tediore is awake, now i know i been up too late lol
last dirge
everything it "works with" is either direct WiFi or requires a bridge
the fact that it "works with" Alexa and Assistant means there's at least some API available
forest edge
just needs someone to poke around lol
last dirge
and the switches are $63 EACH
hearty depot
Or we HA users flooding submit your interest
last dirge
that's higher than Leviton ZWave money
last dirge
that's on sale!
clear ferry
forest edge
oh lawd? that's like a cost of a twinkie in your country lol
green inlet
Zebra cakes 4 lyfe
hearty depot
Ü
last dirge
don't point your umlaut at me
green inlet
Pretty much anything lil Debbie far out does the Twinkie
last dirge
have you had a deep fried Twinkie though?
clear ferry
Reminds me a childhood friend asked me about home automation, so I sent him everything he needed to get started with HA including zwave and zigbee hardware, and he just went and bought the Homey which was $400 more 
green inlet
I haven’t.
hearty depot
ÜÄÖhhhh
green inlet
If I ever saw someone making them, I would definitely try
ocean mirage
I can’t imagine that twinkies are good
green inlet
They have their place 🤣
last dirge
it's just a little sponge cake with some vanilla cream
green inlet
They stopped producing them a while back and there was a huge stir
green inlet
Someone else picked up the slack
midnight adder
Or we HA users flooding
submit your interest
@hearty depot yeah exactly what I was hoping for....but in response I got the response of dont even think about doing or asking anything....even when the company is asking for input
hearty depot
what is that thing doing anyway? forms like i like icecream
midnight adder
actually they are asking for the input on the front page of their website...
forest edge
tell them the product blows chunks without local api support
green inlet
Ohhhh, nice, they offer financing. You can finance your switch for 6 easy payments of $11.67 a month
clear ferry
🤣
green inlet
@midnight adder , I actually like the panel. That could be nice. But a 63.00 switch with no central scene or any extras like programmable leds
And a google hub would do the same thing no?
I would love a hub that can display HAss and not need to be plugged in all the time.
clear ferry
That's called a tablet 😛
green inlet
And......I got nothing 🤣
midnight adder
but nobody else really makes a really good wall mount panel, that is simple and good looking
scenic radish
@clear ferry insert question about home automation here
midnight adder
Maybe I need to just make it and do a kickstarter
green inlet
Hmmm.....can you chromecast to a tablet ?
midnight adder
I wonder how much people would pay for a wall mount display???
last dirge
I'd pay about $50
brisk glen
@midnight adder make it eink and we are talking
clear ferry
If you have a 3d printer making a wall mount for anything should be slick
@vapid roost three fiddy ?
brisk glen
color eink
last dirge
@brisk glen eink sucks unless you want relatively static data
otherwise it's rave time
clear ferry
OLED or bust
midnight adder
I think it needs POE or USB
brisk glen
poe
clear ferry
just use a POE to USB adapter if one or the other, I just learned about that the other week 
last dirge
magnetic USB FTW
tablet slides into the holder, I push it a bit to the left and CLICK it's chargin
midnight adder
Would you see that in a designer home? technologically it looks great, but I wouldnt say that design is amazing
last dirge
@midnight adder it's a $35 tablet
midnight adder
7" display should be sufficient
last dirge
see those switches below it?
they were $35 each and they're Z-wave and I didn't have to buy some $300 vendor-locked hub to use them
clear ferry
🤣
green inlet
But can you finance them?
midnight adder
they were $35 each and they're Z-wave and I didn't have to buy some $300 vendor-locked hub to use them
@last dirge and you totally miss the point
last dirge
"hey, something went bad in my config beteween yesterday and today"
clear ferry
Now I just need to figure out how to get NFS to work inside my freebsd jail
clever mortar
Hey, something went bad in the last couple of hours 😉
hushed basalt
If you wall mount the tablet and use a low profile ribbon usb cable
They look quite nice even without a frame
clear ferry
NO U @unreal orbit
last dirge
@midnight adder you're complaining it's "not pretty" but at the same time complaining the pretty one is locked down and you can't integrate it
guess which one's functionally better?
green inlet
There is actually a vendor somewhere making pretty nice tablet wall mounts.
Can’t remember who though
unreal orbit
If only there were more than two options than ugly and locked down
last dirge
this would be potentially easy to put into an enclosure that'd snap onto a two-gang box
clear ferry
I was seriously impressed with how clear the 0.96" OLED screen was
clear ferry
I just wish I had a 3D printer so I could create a enclosure for it
last dirge
wonder if that pi touchscreen works with the zero w
unreal orbit
You don't have a 3D printer?? That seems like a major oversight on your part
last dirge
I only have a shitty one
unreal orbit
I also only have a shitty one
clear ferry
Yes, because I don't have time to learn how to use it, which seems quite fundamental
I only have 63 vacation days this year anyway!
ocean mirage
Tinker time is essential
hushed basalt
If you don't mind cracking it open you can just open up the back of the tablet and solder charging contacts straight on
last dirge
@unreal orbit what do you have?
unreal orbit
I was up and printing in like 2 hours
clear ferry
I get my vacation money in two days though 🤔
unreal orbit
The Ender 3, it's actually not that shitty. I just suck at/am impatient with leveling
clear ferry
Can I order one without the wife knowing
ocean mirage
Ender 3 is pretty legit
ocean mirage
Cheap af and can get some real quality
unreal orbit
Yeah it just takes time to learn how to properly setup temps and such
clear ferry
Ender 3 appears to be $270 in norway now
hushed basalt
Otherwise these can work well
unreal orbit
I paid $229
ocean mirage
I got mine for 240aud with an extra glass bed
clear ferry
the Ender-3 Pro is $300 it seems 🤔
ocean mirage
Ender 3 base model does the job
dull hill
Hey all, I have a question about updating an input number within an automation based on a random integer
ocean mirage
Simple to upgrade if you need
clear ferry
Or just get the Ultimaker S3, $5000
last dirge
what's the build envelope on the ender 3?
unreal orbit
@dull hill #automations-archived
hushed basalt
If your 3d printer didn't come with wine and dining from the sales rep pre sale you cheaped out
hushed basalt
Go 6 figures or go home. Never compromise.
last dirge
there's kits to extend the print envelope
midnight adder
The closest seem to be these https://makesbymike.com/
dull hill
@unreal orbit thanks
hushed basalt
I'd love a cnc plasma cutter and folding jigs
unreal orbit
Wow that's a tiny build plate
hushed basalt
You can make very cheap strong structures with complex folded sheet metal
You just need to invest in a plasma cnc
green inlet
@midnight adder , the one I saw could be rotated. Was very professionally done
last dirge
@hushed basalt Tesla Cybertruck has entered the chat
hushed basalt
That's a nice find on those tablet mounts
last dirge
CNC is pretty damn cheap nowadays
midnight adder
@hushed basalt Tesla Cybertruck has entered the chat
@last dirge that could be interesting, might have to get a few to compare and review
last dirge
depends on what you want to cut
hushed basalt
clear ferry
Now I want an ender 3 pro
No cheaper to order it from aliexpress either since shipping is $60
last dirge
@hushed basalt my friend bought this https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BYJPGB1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 to go with his Crossfire table
green inlet
Atx. Did you just follow the rsnapshot github to setup?
clear ferry
Well, I followed Tinks blogpost
unreal orbit
Better than any official docs
clear ferry
Interesting, Aliexpress now shows UK as an option for shipping
probably because of Brexit ?
And free shipping 🤔
clever mortar
Soon we'll be a source of cheap labour ... or at least Irn Bru
clear ferry
You are the new Poles ?
unreal orbit
So they left the EU to join the PRC?
clever mortar
We're certainly polarised 😛
clear ferry
clever mortar
Look up the history of football around Glasgow 😉
clear ferry
The pijuice is so expensive, wonder if I can modify a powerbank to use as a UPS between the wall and a pi properly
midnight adder
Look up the history of football around Glasgow 😉
@clever mortar depends...I think someone stole my tires...
clever mortar
What was wrong with the rest of the car...?
midnight adder
haha
I heard Glasgow was well known in the past for people stealing the wheels and putting the car up on blocks?
clever mortar
Yup
Certain parts of it are still like that
I mean, it's a large city with some pretty deprived areas. It's not surprising
unreal orbit
It's always been a bit hard for me to imagine the stolen wheel business being very lucrative
clever mortar
Even before then
midnight adder
was it a coal town?
clever mortar
Ships and the likes, amongst other things
midnight adder
ah
clear ferry
Was it a Bruce Springsteen Song ?
We go down to the CHIPPIE, DRINKING SOME IRN BRUUUUUUU
Sing it with the melody of The River
clever mortar
Only if somebody mentioned getting laddered
brazen fable
Sooo anyone discuss the mistake that is Apple moving to ARM chips for their actual computers?
clever mortar
(again)
brazen fable
Yeh. It went great for them when they had powerPC
clear ferry
People care about subpar hardware on overpriced platforms ?
brazen fable
Future Apple computers
last dirge
all of the programmer hipsters that use Macbooks will probably bail
"we'll have extensive x86 compatibility for gaming"
sure, that'll work great
hearty depot
https://www.qemu.org/
go have fun virtualising x86 😄
last dirge
"well, you can always dual boot"
clever mortar
Five FPS is fine for modern gaming... isn't it
last dirge
I see you've played Rust
unreal orbit
If anyone expects to be doing any modern gaming on a Mac they're in for a surprise anyway
hearty depot
I tryed! to play skyrim back then - had solid 16 FPS on a 1 year complete new device with maxed out apple specs
unreal orbit
The most I've tried is Terraria, which ran fine (not really a surprise). I wouldn't expect much more though
scenic radish
Why tf is apple going back to ARM lol
unreal orbit
Because they're Thinking Differently ™️
hearty depot
awesome power efficency & lets screw our loyal customers
scenic radish
Ahem I believe you mean Think Different ™️
unreal orbit
Thank Differnt ™️
scenic radish
last dirge
SMRT
brazen fable
scenic radish
ew lol
is it excessive that part of my backups is an SSD with an exact clone of my server's SSD that i can drop in if the original SSD fails and then easily restore my home assistant config and /home, /etc, and so on from a separate backup?
clever mortar
No
unreal orbit
When it comes to backups it’s hard to be “excessive”
scenic radish
i figure 120 GB SSDs (the one i use for my server) is like $18 lol
so i have that exact clone in my safe
clever mortar
Anyway, my benchmark is being able to go back in 2 hour steps to when I started with HA... that's ... 3.5 years or so...
So, excessive... yeah, don't recognise that word
scenic radish
damn boi lol
clever mortar
I'm just too lazy to set up a retention plan... 😄
scenic radish
it just makes me more comfortable knowing i can drop in the SSD and be up and running again in minutes basically
unreal orbit
I just rsync my configs to a samba share which gets copied every night to OneDrive
scenic radish
obviously this is a rare situation anyway
unreal orbit
which worked great until the one time I accidently backed up a directory that had node_modules. OneDrive had a stroke and it took many days of physical therapy to get it functional again
last dirge
hahaha
I have all of the stuff that gets backed up symlinked out to a folder
then I just back that folder up
scenic radish
yeah i used to have nightly backups of my home assistant config synced to my server's external storage and my google drive, but that seemed unnecessary so i changed it to every 72 hours
plus i can just run it at any time i want anyway if needed
unreal orbit
Now that I have IoTLink properly setup I have the backup automated with NR. Before I was using Task Scheduler, which is not as easy to configure
late gate
@clear ferry go with prusa 3d printers or come and buy my old huge 3d printer (50x50x50cm print surface)
scenic radish
I just have a cronjob set up with rsync
I found a handy command to only retain the 10 most recent backups too
scenic radish
this isn't support so much as getting ideas, but i'll gladly move it to #automations-archived if needed. anyone using contact sensors on their windows with any automations? i have a few extra sensors and kind of want to put them on my windows that don't already have sensors. thinking i could use them to turn off the air conditioning when i open a window and the tstat is in cool mode. not sure about other ideas. alerts when they open and i'm away i suppose
clever mortar
Yes
scenic radish
good luck opening them from the outside anyway though since they're casement windows. would be easier to just break the glass lol
clever mortar
I use them mostly for:
- Telling me I left windows open when going to bed
- Telling me I left windows open when I leave the house
- Telling me I should open/close windows because it's cooler/hotter outside
It's also hooked into the manual alarm integration
scenic radish
ah nice, thanks. i'm actually using #3 but it's only based on the tstat being in cool mode when the outside becomes >10 degrees cooler than inside and below a certain dew point
could be handy if the tstat is off and the windows are closed for some reason
clever mortar
(3) is for those few days of summer we get, so that there's a hint as to when it's time to open or close windows
scenic radish
yeah, makes sense
unreal orbit
10 Degrees?? My notification goes off after 2 degrees difference
clever mortar
C or F 😛
scenic radish
second floor condo, it takes a bigger inside/outside diff for me to get any appreciable cooling when it's cooler outside
like, even if the inside is 75 and outside is 65 with a fan blowing out one window and a window on the opposite end open (producing very nice airflow) the temp doesn't drop much
thankfully my AC can run safely when it's as low as 55 F ambient outside, though by the time the temp goes below 60 outside i can get decent cooling inside with the windows open
daring stirrup
hello everyone!
lunar sundial
wait you have the AC on when it's 65F out?
daring stirrup
Hope this is right channel to ask for recommendation on devices etc?
oh hi @proven spruce
clever mortar
That'd be #hardware-archived
daring stirrup
i figured i'd stop bothering you on tasmota server with generic stuff
scenic radish
@lunar sundial usually
lunar sundial
you're crazy 😛
scenic radish
If it was 75+ during the day
See above--I can't get the temp low enough inside if it isn't below 60 at night after being 75+ all day
If it's no higher than 65 all day then I won't need the AC
lunar sundial
my house is comfy at 78 indoors
scenic radish
🤢
lunar sundial
anything lower and it feels too chilly
scenic radish
I like it 74 during the day, 71 overnight