#the-water-cooler

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clear ferry
slate marsh
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Trust me right now there wouldn't be much point

limpid wind
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only thing i'm missing from lockdown is restaruants

clear ferry
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That hasn't affected us much

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As Norwegians go out to restaurants at most once a month, if they are pretend posh

limpid wind
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once a week for me

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don't do takeaways

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what do you miss?

clear ferry
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Nothing

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Stuff has been back to normal for almost everything

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For 4 weeks now

limpid wind
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I work for a school, so we will be closed till september now

slate marsh
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Wow that's really good you're lucky

clear ferry
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Schools opened 4 weeks ago too

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And kindergartens and such

limpid wind
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we could soon, but there is no point as students won't be travelling here

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looks like goverment here is delayng as summer holidays is in a month

clear ferry
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So everybody got to do their exams

slate marsh
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Yeah just no exams here this year basically

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Creatish what country are you?

limpid wind
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uk

slate marsh
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Ahh ok yeah. Wales have said extending a week into the summer holidays I think

hearty depot
clear ferry
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Most Norwegian schools are contemplating doing more remote schooling from now on

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Since it works so good

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Remember we started with remote lectures in 2003

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@hearty depot did the card work? haha

limpid wind
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yeah our company definitly will, they can sell courses first week online, then some in person

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bundle together they make money from not having to have the classrooms required ect

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massive money savings to be had

low harness
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That's an absolutely ENORMOUS network switch!

hearty depot
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yea - at the moment eth3 is connected - eth2 is zhe mainboard

clear ferry
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I only use the office once a month anyway, so for me the difference isn't noticeable

hearty depot
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I need 3 pepes to connect the 2x3 meter big ethernet interfaces 😛

slate marsh
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4-port NIC?

clear ferry
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I only send proper hardware to people

slate marsh
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I work in the university here and next year is looking worrying for us

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I like those card but never think to write which port is which on the card

clear ferry
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Four ports aint bad though,I've seen 16 port PCI card

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They have 4x dongles on each port

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It's a nightmare to draw

slate marsh
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Yeah I don't think I need one of those. I've seen something similar with serial ports

clear ferry
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I draw a lot of networking and power cabling, when you start to get above 700 ports stuff get... Interesting

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So I usually split up my drawings to different functions of the interfaces

thick dragon
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This is driving me nutty! In Portainer, how they heck do you get images just from Github? Guessing I need to add Github as a repository source, but can't find any docs on how to do that anywhere.

clear ferry
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Portainer 🤢

thick dragon
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Love the Docker app on Synology, hence why I was looking at Portainer. Just can't work out how the heck to search a repository other than DockerHub.

hushed basalt
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GitHub isn't a repository though?

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It would only let you pick a repo to build an image from afaik?

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I wouldn't recommend portainer though

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I love web dashboards for monitoring and discovery but you should be doing all management from code

dusky plank
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@thick dragon afaik github doesn't provide a container REGISTRY (you can add registries under this point in portainer)
only gitlab offers one.

hushed basalt
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Honestly just use docker ps when you need to observe images

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And put health checks into your docker compose to make sure things stay up and functional

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And use monitoring to alert of fatal errors

hearty depot
dull chasm
hearty depot
dull chasm
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lol yep i am lazy

hearty depot
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just on setting it up - this as a visual helper is probably a good start

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not shure how I should segment it

dull chasm
hearty depot
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the one before is a potatoe

hushed basalt
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What software is dis

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Nu fone hu dis

dull chasm
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yea that showed all clients

hearty depot
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unify usg I guess

dull chasm
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yep

low harness
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8 ports and a dedicated AP? You spoil your kids. I like it!

dull chasm
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yea and they still complain

hushed basalt
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You'll get one port and you'll like it

wet pilot
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Lol dedicated ap with aggressive QoS rules

dull chasm
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yea ....he complains .....it filters any bullshit like porn or anime

wet pilot
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The ultimate anti talking back system. Do I hear 20mbps? How about 11?

hearty depot
dull chasm
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yea .....if i am sourcing a movie for example and its 50g from main network ....his slows down to only 50m and he complains .....

clear ferry
wet pilot
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If you keep this up I'll demote you to dial up!

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Nooooooooo

clear ferry
wet pilot
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Man, way spoiled if he complains at 50m

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"I remember a time..."

dull chasm
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no shit ... 56k 🤣

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if i rem my first was 28.4 or something

clear ferry
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28.4k

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You youngster

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Or wait you live in America,so that was in 2009

dull chasm
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no like 84

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thinking about it might have been 14.6? when i first started

clear ferry
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28.8 was ratified in 1994 though PepeHmm

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14.4 was 1991

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9600 was 84 apparently

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I started with 9600 in 91 though

dull chasm
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well i dont know it blurs toghter that long ago ....... but 84 was the first time i got on prodigy and bbs

clear ferry
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The year I was born

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Y u so old

dull chasm
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then who is saying youngster ..... you snowflake

dull chasm
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what i should have said to you ^^^^

dull chasm
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you will be okay ..... 🤞

clear ferry
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Lol norwegian government opened for summer travel to all Nordic countries

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Except sweden

slate marsh
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UK keeps saying we'll create air bridges with countries with low infection rates. Not quite sure who will agree to that right now

hushed basalt
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No one wants to go to the UK anyways

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Outside of London it's all teas and scones culture

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Inside London it's just a bridge to Paris and EU

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They even stand on the right on escalators.

last dirge
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@last plaza I keep putting my phone on top of my wallet and it keeps trying to read my key

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"No application associated with this NFC tag"

grand plank
last dirge
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that's a negative

mossy elk
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yes, it's been down for me for a couple of hours

last dirge
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the site or the forum?

mossy elk
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both

last dirge
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both are fine or me

mossy elk
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An error occurred during a connection to home-assistant.io. Peer reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version.
Error code: SSL_ERROR_PROTOCOL_VERSION_ALERT

last dirge
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what browser are you using?

mossy elk
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tried Chrome and Firefox

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it says I can enable TLS 1.0 but I don't really want to

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(Firefox)

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IE gives "Can’t connect securely to this page
This might be because the site uses outdated or unsafe TLS security settings. If this keeps happening, try contacting the website’s owner."

clever mortar
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Loads fine here

last dirge
mossy elk
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works fine from my phone

last dirge
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it's got tls 1.3

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so sounds like a PICNIC issue

clever mortar
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Well, Edge sulks here, but Chrome is happy

last dirge
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have you tried updating BOFA?

mossy elk
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what's BOFA?

last dirge
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BOFA DEEZ NUTS

clever mortar
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I suspect a Cloudflare related problem

last dirge
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Cloudflare was having problems last night according to a bunch of messages in here

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Reddit had major problems with their CDN the other day too, not sure who they use

mossy elk
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but why would it work perfectly from my phone on the same wifi...

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may be linked with work laptop's root certificates or something

last dirge
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oh yeah

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there was some looming root CA cert expiration issue

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multiple news articles the other day about "your smart TV might stop working!!!!one1!!!"

dusky plank
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check system date/time

last dirge
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that'd just complain that the cert either wasn't valid yet or had already expired

mossy elk
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system date/time's fine

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I heard stories about sectigo root certification expiring end of May

last dirge
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where in the world are you?

mossy elk
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Australia

last dirge
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@hushed basalt you around?

mossy elk
clever mortar
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Up here

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Which makes it all the more likely to be Cloudflare

last dirge
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@mossy elk says it's down for me too but I can go to it

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probably a regional cloudflare problem

mossy elk
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maybe

last dirge
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at least parts two continents say it's okay

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Europe (UK) and eastern US

mossy elk
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but it still links to SSL connection for sure

slate marsh
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Yeah fine here probably someone local to you pinged the server mid deploy

mossy elk
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as again, my phone is working fine, and all my browsers complain about TLS/cipher

dusky plank
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works fine here in germany

dull chasm
last dirge
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the ssl protocol mismatch doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense

mossy elk
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@grand plank you were the first one reporting it down, where are you located?

grand plank
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@grand plank you were the first one reporting it down, where are you located?
@mossy elk London, UK.

mossy elk
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what error do you get?

slate marsh
mossy elk
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nothing...

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I mean same error

grand plank
mossy elk
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ok same in Apple wording

clever mortar
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Yup, I'd say Cloudflare having issues

mossy elk
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while on my phone I get a green tick (and can access HA)

clever mortar
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I get the red cross on Chrome and can reach the site 😉

mossy elk
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ok 🙂

slate marsh
mossy elk
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is CloudFlare new? I mean HA site using it?

last dirge
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no

mossy elk
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This site can’t provide a secure connection
rc.home-assistant.io uses an unsupported protocol.
ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH

last dirge
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I thought since it was Thursday night and people were complaining about Cloudflare it was just the weekly backup

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but apparently it's a CloudFlare problem

mossy elk
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but many websites are using CloudFlare as CDN, and HA website is the only one I have problems with

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on SSL/TLS tab, all red crosses

last dirge
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here too

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ergo cloudflare problem

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because the site works

flat lintel
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fiiiiiine

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it was me

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Yall need to upgrade your OS and browser

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I set the default TLS version to 1.3 last night

clever mortar
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All current here, and Edge still isn't happy 🤔

flat lintel
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Chromium Edge?

clever mortar
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Windows - MS Edge

last dirge
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I'd assume MS Edge

flat lintel
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Yes but the new version of MS Edge powered by Chromium

clever mortar
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Obviously IE sulks, but if you flipped it to 1.3 only I'd be shocked if IE talks it

slate marsh
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Old edge or the Chromium build

clever mortar
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🤷

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Whatever is default in Windows 10

slate marsh
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Depends if you've had the the latest feature update or not

clever mortar
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I don't think so

flat lintel
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There

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Changed

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Count to 10 and try loading again

clever mortar
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👍 Yup

grand plank
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Up and running again.

mossy elk
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yep, works again now!

flat lintel
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minimum TLS version is now 1.2

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instead of 1.3

clever mortar
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Looks like TLS 1.3 support isn't as widespread as the theory said 😄

flat lintel
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upgrade your shit yall

mossy elk
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I'm using Chrome 83.0.4103.97

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last version...

dull chasm
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#tlsmatters

mossy elk
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but OS controlled by my company

flat lintel
clever mortar
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And you found those 1.2 only folks quickly

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Great use of the scream test 😛

flat lintel
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sure did

hushed basalt
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@last dirge i used to have a phone case wallet

last dirge
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heh

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that'd be interesting with NFC cards

hushed basalt
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It took me a while to figure out why my phone kept beeping when I had my case open

last dirge
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@flat lintel Cloudflare says you should fix your HSTS header too 😉

scenic radish
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TLS 1.1 🤢

flat lintel
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@scenic radish thank you

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I’d love to enable HSTS but I haven’t done a thorough audit of our domain to ensure theres no HTTP

last dirge
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could do the same as the TLS upgrade 🙂

flat lintel
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nah

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HSTS sticks

last dirge
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distributed testing

flat lintel
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for days/weeks/months

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once its on, its on for a long ass time

last dirge
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you can control the TTL

flat lintel
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tru

scenic radish
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True

last dirge
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guess who just went through all of that crap?

flat lintel
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although actually does CF let me put any value

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or just their defaults

wet pilot
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not False

last dirge
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are you using CF for SSL offloading?

flat lintel
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yessir

mossy elk
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I'm using Windows 10 1803, looks like TLS 1.3 started with 1903

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again, company controlled

wet pilot
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lol 2 year old OS

flat lintel
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thanks for the tip

wet pilot
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got some badmins over there

scenic radish
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why are you using a 217-year-old operating system?!

last dirge
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@scenic radish what do you mean? it's from 03

wet pilot
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2020 - 1803

hushed basalt
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That's 200 years in millennial

last dirge
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@wet pilot not sure what you mean, we'll never need more than 2 digits to store a year

wet pilot
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lol

scenic radish
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heh

last dirge
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what year is the epoch overflow supposed to happen?

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I wanna be retired by then

wet pilot
last dirge
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2035?

mossy elk
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@flat lintel thanks for the quick action anyway - good to have the forums again

hushed basalt
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Early 30s I think

flat lintel
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sure thing

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although as our statement said

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i wouldnt exactly trust the forums rn

hushed basalt
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Late 30s. 2038

flat lintel
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its a miracle we got them back up and running as is

scenic radish
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yeah i hope you guys weren't up too late last night...

flat lintel
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11pm is when we called it quits

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didnt help i couldnt sleep night before until 4am

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we will have to do more maintenance this weekend

clever mortar
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I've had upgrades like that before, where the simple upgrade turns into a multi-day nightmare

slate marsh
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That was Apple's fault on the sleep

clever mortar
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Fine if you're getting paid overtime for it... not so fine the other 99% of the time 🙂

last dirge
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you guys are getting paid?

last dirge
shy comet
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lol

slate marsh
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Turns out there must be a very rich nerd live around here somewhere

scenic radish
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the plate looks 'shopped

slate marsh
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Promise it wasn't took the picture myself

scenic radish
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oh i wasn't accusing you, it just looks odd for some reason

slate marsh
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Yeah it does rather to be fair. Compression?

unreal orbit
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You can tell it's not because of the way it is

last dirge
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definitely from some of the pixels too

scenic radish
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@slate marsh compression, or you're a || fucking liar ||

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just kidding!

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pls no mad

slate marsh
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Lol nice use of redaction there

scenic radish
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they're not committed enough, they should have changed the RANGE ROVER lettering to say RANGE SERVER

slate marsh
scenic radish
scenic radish
last dirge
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what's the Dodge SUV called?

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Durango?

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I saw a picture on Reddit of one of those where the owner replaced the D in the middle of the brand name with a doge emblem

scenic radish
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Love it

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Yeah, Durango

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Also anyone who has a Kroger/Food4Less near them, you need to try their hot Italian sausage. It's so good

last dirge
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no kiddin

mint estuary
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so i saw this and i think im gonna make something similar for my GMC RV hahaha

scenic radish
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@last dirge so you've had it before?

mint estuary
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Im a cad Designer at heart ill try my hand at 3ds or something instead of just fusion

last dirge
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yeah

scenic radish
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so good, it's unreal

last dirge
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sometimes the stuff in a casing is cheaper

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so I end up buying the stuff in the casing and cutting the casing off

scenic radish
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i just get the packaged ones lol

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i don't mind the casing

worldly fractal
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So we have last DIGITAL release for now - ver. 0.111.1 before **GREATEST HA **ever: ver. 1.00 🙂

slate marsh
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unless we hit 0.111.10

clever mortar
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Plenty of time for 0.111.10 😛

forest edge
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hot Italian sausage. It's so good
@scenic radish ...

clever mortar
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Also, you're assuming we won't get to 0.1000.0 😛

forest edge
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I just updated and already behind almost a whole tier

shy comet
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update was sorta smooth for me

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had to do a second reboot to get it going lol

clever mortar
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Only thing I've noticed as an issue so far is Yeelight

scenic radish
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my restart time doubled but the frontend starts to be available in like 5 seconds

shy comet
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i think in my case since the logger was finally fixed i didnt see anything so i thought after 5 min of logs something got stuck lol

scenic radish
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so maybe the overhead of the frontend being available early affects the total start time?

shy comet
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they changed how everything loads actually..not only frontend sooner but platforms load after integrations i think

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but having the frontend avail in 5 seconds is actually really nice

unreal orbit
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It is a little scary the first time you do it when literally everything in lovelace is broken 🤣 , but that is super nice having access early

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By the way, switching to docker-compose handgesture

clear ferry
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I just hate that the theme isn't loaded at first

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MY EYES

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Teddi loves it

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Because he lives white themes

last dirge
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@scenic radish leaving it in the casings is no good if you use it to make meatballs

clear ferry
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The madman

unreal orbit
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Having automated themes 🤣

scenic radish
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@last dirge I just eat them on a bun

clear ferry
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Mine is automated too, but it doesn't load it in 111 before a few seconds had passed

last dirge
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for as mayo/bland as Kroger is, it's got a surprising amount of heat

unreal orbit
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@clear ferry yeah but it loads right away if you don't use backend selected

last dirge
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protip, if you go shopping around the time they close the meat counter they often take the fresh sausages they made to put in the display and put them on a tray and sell them in the "manager's special" section for next to nothin

scenic radish
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Ah, good to know 👀

last dirge
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same thing with the chorizo sausages

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I think I picked them up for $.15 apiece

scenic radish
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Oooooo

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Damn

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Screamin deal

last dirge
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those are WAY too greasy to eat as a sausage

scenic radish
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Yeah for sure

last dirge
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but make an excellent taco stuffing if you take it out of the casing and cook it up

clear ferry
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We usually just fry chorizo and add it to tomato dishes

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Great in pasta putanesca for example

slate marsh
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This chat is making me so hungry

clear ferry
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I'm frying up these some day

light trout
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Those are nice

fading zodiac
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DAfuq is with this guy

last dirge
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Costco's got butts on sale $5 off

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if you're into the smokin

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@tidal bronze @shy comet

forest edge
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nothing like a good ole smokin butt

last dirge
scenic radish
clear ferry
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Dark theme is

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You savage

shy comet
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dark mode on everything man

tidal bronze
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@last dirge thanks for tbe heads up.

clear ferry
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And I thought it was IN THE MIDDLE

forest edge
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you act as if people haven't screwed that up before lol

clear ferry
forest edge
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wtf lol

clear ferry
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It's my Bitmoji

forest edge
clear ferry
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Had to edit it as I actually have hair

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For the first time in like two years

forest edge
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Had to edit it as I actually have hair
@clear ferry finally getting peach fuzz on your upper lip huh? || I should really cut back picking on you haha ||

shy comet
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lol

clear ferry
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@mødz

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Please ban @forest edge

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He is not following the rules

last dirge
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hair?

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what's that?

forest edge
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i'm above the law tyvm

last dirge
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is the difference between a Samsung 42" TV and a Samsung 42" monitor only the control board?

last dirge
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seems like the panel is exactly the same

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but the monitor's like 4x the price

forest edge
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@last dirge color spectrum, refresh rate just to name a few diffrences that bump up that price

last dirge
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it can't be THAT different

forest edge
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?

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a tv vs monitor? sure it can lol

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when you do gfx/photography it's a huge diffrence

last dirge
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I'd say the price difference is more due to demand

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it can't cost 4X as much to make a monitor

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but there's a far bigger market for large TVs than for large monitors

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gigantic TVs are cheap now

forest edge
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well i'm sure it doesn't cost them 4x as much to make, but those who need that are more willing to pay 4x to get it

last dirge
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it's the same for all monitors after you go 1440p

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and high refresh 1440p monitors are even stupidly priced

scenic radish
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i mean, is the resolution higher on the 42" monitor than it is the TV?

last dirge
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not on a 4K TV

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and I'd be extremely surprised if Samsung developed two different 4K panels

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ignoring current vs last model

clear ferry
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Usually refresh rates on TVs are worse

unreal orbit
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What specific devices are you talking about?

last dirge
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that's related to the hardware driving the panel though

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I'm not talking about any specific stuff

forest edge
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it's mostly over the color spectrum the monitor can display that most tvv's cannot

last dirge
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just noticing that Samsung 4K monitors and TVs are at drastically different price points

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the TVs have HDMI but can't push the framerate over HDMI

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and don't have displayport inputs

clear ferry
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Displayport 🤢

unreal orbit
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Without knowing the devices you're looking at it's really impossible to tell 🤷

forest edge
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colors show diffrently depending on adpater you use as well

unreal orbit
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@clear ferry what?? Why do you hate display port?

forest edge
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hdmi usually shows black levels washe dout more so than displayport

clear ferry
last dirge
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Displayport's currently the highest bandwidth video input, isn't it?

clear ferry
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@unreal orbit because I never have a displayport monitor in the DC and then some feckers have a server with only dp 🤢

unreal orbit
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nobody tell him that they make adapters

last dirge
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nobody tell him about USB DisplayPort adapters either

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err DisplayLink

forest edge
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@clear ferry isn't it part of your job to be prepared for that stuff? lol

clear ferry
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Adapters, like I have room in my bag for that with the five different serial cables I carry

unreal orbit
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If you're already carrying hdmi cables just stick the adapter on the end

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remove as needed

clear ferry
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But seriously, the only place you find dp monitors in Norway is in offices, and it's a pita every time I see a system with it

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Because regular monitors laying around usually only have dsub or hdmi

last dirge
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good ol' VGA

clear ferry
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Long live

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Even works with bent pins

unreal orbit
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Well regardless of convenience, they are the better standard as far as performance

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and the fact that they lock

forest edge
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bring back s-video

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!!!

unreal orbit
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bring back coax

forest edge
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coax never left

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derp

clear ferry
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Performance has been of no interest for me the last 15 years in regards to displays gulag

clever mortar
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I care about the display itself. The nature of the cable... not so much

clear ferry
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You guys mean component input

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I had that for years

last dirge
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I bought a 4K monitor so I could split it and have 4 displays on one screen

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but the refresh rate was dogshit and make it unusable

forest edge
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lol

last dirge
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wanna watch a video? LOL good luck

forest edge
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brian trying to make a datsun run like a lambo

unreal orbit
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@clear ferry maybe if you were using display port then you'd have the reaction time to beat the chained ogre

clear ferry
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I beat him after three tries

last dirge
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I couldn't even use it to display my IDE

unreal orbit
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It took me at least 6 tried the other day

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probably closer to 10

clear ferry
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I still haven't beat the mikiri guy

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But chained ogre was easy

unreal orbit
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Anyone that can be blocked/parried is easy

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(easier anyway)

clear ferry
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I'm the other way around

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I never used my shield in dark souls

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And I sucked with the gun in Bloodborne

unreal orbit
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Well more so parrying. If you didn't parry in ds then you're a silly pants

clear ferry
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But I'm cunning and brute

unreal orbit
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Bloodborne parrying was... interesting

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takes some getting used to, but it's very powerful

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and basically required for gascoigne

forest edge
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atx is playing a game?

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wtf

clear ferry
#

I managed to get in two parries on him

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Which was enough

forest edge
#

this one of those games like Zork isn't it?

clear ferry
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I play many games

last dirge
#

want some rye?

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'course you do

clear ferry
#

Btw @scenic radish you should watch 8 out of 10 cats does countdown

scenic radish
#

don't tell me what to do

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you're not the boss of me now
you're not the boss of me now
you're not the boss of me now
and you're not... so... big

hushed basalt
#

Have you seen the no hit dark souls speedrun

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Dark souls 3, 2, and 1. No damage taken. Played consecutively

brazen fable
#

Hello home assistant crew

forest edge
#

speed runs are boring

rain swift
#

@clever mortar that's what she said.

velvet horizonBOT
#

Tinkerer is away for 45m 59s with a message :point_right: Life isn't fair, it's just fairer than death, that's all.

unreal orbit
#

Those are not speed runs

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They are no hit runs

clear ferry
#

Think I saw the record for Sekiro was 20 minutes now

unreal orbit
#

Sekiro is stupid broken

clear ferry
#

So am I, but here we are!

unreal orbit
#

Hob is kind of a joke in the speedrunning community, btw. Though he's a good sport about it

forest edge
hushed basalt
#

Don't tell me what to do

unreal orbit
scenic radish
#

It is my American Australian right to piss back and forth between two urinals if I want to

forest edge
#

it's just the millennial rebellious in you that thinks you have the right to do anything anyone says you shouldn't or can't do lol

hushed basalt
#

Ok 💥 er

scenic radish
#

> imagine thinking I was serious

forest edge
#

not sure you are capable of that 😋

dull chasm
#

@forest edge i am with you on that one

hushed basalt
#

I used to eat gravel for breakfast rargh rargh rargh

dull chasm
#

how did you know i told my son that

forest edge
#

lol I remember when my dad use to tell me I was lucky that there was school buses and mom could take me to school because he had to walk for miles to school and back regardless of the weather

dull chasm
#

uphill both ways in the snow

forest edge
#

I use to think he made it up, then realized he actually did 😮

dull chasm
#

i walked as a child

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was just short of 2 miles

forest edge
#

I walked sometimes, but usually the bus was much better lol

hushed basalt
#

My bus was slower than walking

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Took 40 minutes to walk home and the bus took 45 minutes

forest edge
#

lol

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too many stops?

hushed basalt
#

Yeah plus one bus covering huge area

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Route was like snake

forest edge
#

lol

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prob whats wrong with our youth, too many conveniences. making them lazy and not appreciate stuff lol

hushed basalt
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The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

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Anyone sharpen their own knives here

last dirge
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I do

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I use a stone I got on amazon for like $25

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I watched a lot of videos online of how-tos, there's a japanese guy that is a sharpener for a major retailer in the US and he's got a lot of videos

hushed basalt
#

I've used whetstones for 10 years but I've never been happy with the result

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I was thinking of getting one of those jigs

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Where the knife gets held and the stone moves on the jig at a fixed angle

scenic radish
#

:(

scenic radish
#

i just made my startup notification display random phrases and this one scared me for a sec lol

tough igloo
#

Scared me too just reading it. You’re a clever sausage! That should be an April fools update

rain swift
rain swift
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it sounds cheesy but the guy has a good rep in the knife community.

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and diamond plate is real so

scenic radish
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Ooo nice

rain swift
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yeah I didn't go for random informercial, a friend who is into knives and sharpening recommended.

scenic radish
#

Oh I'm just messing around, I love cheesy domain names like that

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Though, there's a billboard by me that says

Want a second opinion?
DrSpine.com

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Like...I'm not gonna go to a website called DrSpine.com if I'm having spinal issues lol

rain swift
#

hahahahaha

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nope.

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anyone know if you can buy the big lego blocks from the site? wanted to use some for project enclosures but couldn't find them on the site.

last dirge
#

the ultrasharp is excellent for chisels

rain swift
#

diamond plate is awesome in general

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get you a pasted strop

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sharp af

last dirge
#

there's a YouTube dude that does comparison stuff and he compared a whole bunch of sharpening systems

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and a $40 stone did almost as well as a $900 sharpening system

rain swift
#

stones are great because you can do any angle

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you just have to practice holding the blade at the right angle

last dirge
#

he had some crazy piece of equipment that measured sharpness

rain swift
#

haha yeah sharp edges aren't magic

last dirge
#

he's the same guy that compared carbon removal for small engines

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real nerdy sounding dude

rain swift
#

I like to find people like that who know what they are talking about and review stuff

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when I was looking for a real multi-meter to go with my fluke 101, I found an electrical engineer dude on youtube who is a freakin genius and did all kinds of crazy tests on multi meters, built a lot of the test gear himself. went with the bryemn 869s, it beat or matched the fluke 87v in everything and had a few things it didn't, cost $220 from TME instead of whatever the 87v goes for, like $450? $500?

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this dude kills mutli meters pushing them and then fixes them, haha.

last dirge
#

quit spammin it everywhere 😉

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first Reddit, now here

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I'm totally kidding man 🙂

#

where'd you get the heatshrink on the end of the LED cable? It looks super finished

cobalt loom
#

Im sorry, I look at the google analytics numbers and they make me happy, I just brought it from Jaycar here in nz

last dirge
#

it's really nice looking

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you can post the link again dude

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I just flicked through the images and didn't pay much attention to detail

#

it's just on/off LED?

cobalt loom
#

the heatshrink looks really good but its hit and miss on actually staying on if pulled on, its more peace of mind so that the 12v doesnt short on the aluminium

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they are just plain old 2 wire on off 12v strips

last dirge
#

you can use hot glue

cobalt loom
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Building stairs with smart lights during quarantinehttps://jaybigguy10.gitlab.io/post/building-stairs-with-smart-lights-during-quarantine/

last dirge
#

it's exactly the same stuff they use for their IP rating

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they just have a fancy machine that applies it perfectly clear

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and does a little swipey swipe to make it look nice

cobalt loom
#

I would if i had a hot glue gun, easier to pick up heatshrink at the same time

last dirge
#

where are you?

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other than "not in the US"

cobalt loom
#

North Island, New Zealand

last dirge
#

cool

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congrats on the no COVID

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it's early there isn't it?

#

like before 8am?

cobalt loom
#

Thanks man, no its like 1pm

last dirge
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ah, went the wrong way

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SYD is +4 and flip am/pm

cobalt loom
#

gotcha

last dirge
#

not many folks would actually use conduit

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@tidal bronze you see Mr Fancy over here with his wire management and conduit like an actual project?

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makin my expanded sleeving and P clamps look inadequate

cobalt loom
#

well we only used it on the 240v side on the deck build and it cost a bit but we found cheap flex stuff for this because we were running longer lengths of wire in the open

last dirge
#

you just went into a single side of the LED strip and didn't chain them?

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I guess no need since they're not addressable

thick dragon
#

Got a random newbie Linux/Docker question - Want to install NGINX Proxy Manager on a new host (not HA addon). NPM uses MariaDB, and the installation recommends a docker-compose to merge the two into one container. If I wanted to perhaps use MariaDB to record my Home Assistant events as well as NGINX, should I set up an independent MariaDB docker container?

cobalt loom
#

yeah, there is a one way junction box behind each strip with a hole drilled in the back and one wire feeds power to the next one, one to the strip and one from the previous

tidal bronze
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@cobalt loom nicely done. Good to see things done right. @last dirge thanks for the share. 👍

last dirge
#

cool

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I overcomplicated mine

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🙂

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I need to spend some time pulling it back apart and giving it the ol' conformal coating

tidal bronze
#

Although pixels would've been cooler 😜

last dirge
#

waaaaay more of a pain in the ass though

tidal bronze
#

Nopes.

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Never had any issues ever. 😆

cobalt loom
#

yeah, im just switching the high voltage to the power supplies, the controller was one of my first smart tech purchases

last dirge
#

he couldn't have used that slick wire management he used since he'd have to snake the LED wiring from one to the next

tidal bronze
#

Always a method to the madness

last dirge
#

did you end up getting that Volt low voltage lighting from Costco or no?

tidal bronze
#

Getting direct from china.

last dirge
#

of course you are

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what city are you in?

tidal bronze
#

Huh ?

last dirge
#

are you in the bay area?

tidal bronze
#

LA

last dirge
#

found out about a company in San Francisco (I think) called Stealth EV

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they make REALLY cool stuff

tidal bronze
#

They do have some cool stuff.

rain swift
#

but do they have ludicrous mode.

last dirge
#

they have a Tesla P90D drivetrain in a Shelby Cobra replica

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which I'd say is pretty ludicrous

tidal bronze
#

Going to be busy remote camera platforms the coming days. LA released new covid film conditoons. Interesting times ahead.

rain swift
#

I'll take 3

last dirge
#

"covid film conditions"?

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for shooting movies?

tidal bronze
#

Doing things keeping a distance.

rain swift
#

ha

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if only they made such a big deal about the poop in the streets..

tidal bronze
#

You gotta have west coast mentality to understand these things 😜

rain swift
#

I mean what kind of diseases does that have in it.

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lol

tidal bronze
#

@last dirge 1st project converting electric wheelchairs for RF control.

last dirge
#

that should be easy

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some of them haul ass

tidal bronze
#

Yep indeed but will be with a worm drive with stepper for height adjustment.

last dirge
#

like a scissor jack?

tidal bronze
#

Yep.

last dirge
#

stupid strong

tidal bronze
#

Electric wheelchair manufacturers gonna be pretty happy.

last dirge
#

wearing my hearing aids for the first time in like a month

#

shockingly not as big of a transition as I thought it'd be

tidal bronze
#

Wish Google speaker group delay correction is per group. 🙄

hushed basalt
#

You should wear them full-time

last dirge
#

I did

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then I took them out somewhere and forgot to charge them

rare condor
#

Actually makes the water sensors (leak sensors) useful

forest edge
#

Going to be busy remote camera platforms the coming days. LA released new covid film conditoons. Interesting times ahead.
@tidal bronze and you give me crap about posting tid bit info lol

tidal bronze
#

I looked into only because its work related. I dont go counting supermarkets in no man's land 😜

forest edge
#

uh huh

tidal bronze
#

For a minute you sounded like my teenage niece

forest edge
#

I just found out today that there is a massive appliance shortage going on

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went to buy a refrigerator and over half the brands were on back order lol

tidal bronze
#

That should not bother you right ? You only use stuff from 1983

forest edge
#

I wish

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well not 83, more like mid to late 60's

tidal bronze
#

Right on.

forest edge
#

the stuff a semi couldn't dent at full speed

tidal bronze
#

Looking to change out mine as well.

forest edge
#

well if it's not already in stock in the store, good luck lol

tidal bronze
#

Few weeks ago it was in stock just looking at different brands etc.

last dirge
#

freezers are on backorder until the end of September

#

I needed more freezer space so I ended up upgrading my fridge/freezer and sticking that in the basement since nobody's got freezers

forest edge
#

I guess it makes sense with covvid etc

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but i was kind of suprised there wasn't more of a stock pile

tidal bronze
#

Actually built in models are all in stock. 🤣

forest edge
#

built in models?

#

you mean the stuff 80% of us can't afford?

#

lol

tidal bronze
#

Subzero

last dirge
#

Wolf

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Subzero

#

whoever designed my house didn't consider the fridge at all

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one side of the fridge is the pantry and the wall for the pantry sticks out 2 feet past where the fridge normally stops

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so if you've got a side by side fridge/freezer or one of those fancy french door fridges the left one can't open all the way

forest edge
#

lol

last dirge
#

so I ended up with a fridge on top with a gigantic single door

tidal bronze
#

The LG double tap is pretty nice.

forest edge
#

I told the woman if push comes to shovve we'll just buy an ice cream truck and park it on the side of the house to use

last dirge
#

could get one of those reefer trailers they were putting corpses in

tidal bronze
#

Dark but funny.

last dirge
#

stuck on a call waiting on a DBA

#

I think it's mojito time

tidal bronze
#

Nice. Michalada 2 days back to back for me.

#

Only time I drink beer. 😀

#

Back to binging queen of the south.

last dirge
#

nothin beats fresh mint

#

good thing I bill hourly

rare condor
#

Do you guys ever update Tasmota devices or just stay on whatever release you install, do you bother with OTA?

hushed basalt
#

I use esphome what's tasmota like

rare condor
#

I like Tasmota a bit more than ESPHome, but they are both good with different ways of doing things. Primarily found Tasmota easier to setup and configure.

#

tbh I'd prefer there to be one standard that everyone uses so dev efforts are centralised

hushed basalt
#

I'm glad I got my chest freezer last year

#

I have stuff in there that's older than my daughter

#

Vacuum sealing is awesome

#

I've found esphome to be really poor at rgbw lights

rare condor
#

yeah, its worth giving both a shot and seeing what works best

hushed basalt
#

Do you have any rgbw bulbs in tasmota

rare condor
#

no

#

mainly blinds and curtains

hushed basalt
#

What curtains are you using

clear ferry
hushed basalt
rare condor
#

@hushed basalt https://photos.app.goo.gl/pgB99SdPYmT3UGji9 Zemismart CT25 from Aliexpress, literally come with Plugin ESP8266, that can be swapped

Love them, silent, cheap and retrofit into Australia's standard 38mm tube curtain blinds. Paired with a Dulux Curtain from Bunnings. Also installed them at my relatives house who suffers from arthritis.

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In terms of AS3000 compliance and RCM/C-Tick certification. well...

hushed basalt
#

Do you have motorised curtains

rare condor
#

@hushed basalt Yes used xiaomi motor

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and motorised windows

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Also motorised sliding doors for bathroom (prevents family leaving door open and letting hot air out)

hushed basalt
#

Imagine doing all that with AU products and licensed electrician $$$$$

forest edge
#

motorized sliding doors? wtf

brazen fable
#

I want motorized windows

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lmao

pseudo glen
#

anywhere in particular where i can tell someone a bug i found in 0.111 ? except filling a bug report, tbh i am tired of doing them, i just want to tell what the problem is, if they want to fix it is good, if not also good

clever mortar
#

Open an issue... That's the only way. No issue, no bug.

brazen fable
#

@clear ferry can't post a screenshot in the other channel

#

and it's not letting me update because of it 20-06-13 10:32:21 ERROR (SyncWorker_4) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:227 -> 500 Server Error: Internal Server Error ("Get https://registry-1.docker.io/v2/: dial tcp: lookup registry-1.docker.io on [::1]:53: read udp [::1]:44556->[::1]:53: read: connection refused").
20-06-13 10:32:21 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.supervisor] Update of Supervisor fails!

velvet horizonBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

#

Please DO NOT cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond.

brazen fable
#

Do you have a bot command for everything

dull chasm
#

yep

hushed basalt
#

.yes

midnight adder
brazen fable
#

LOL

#

Well at least you'll know if someone detonates a nuke nearby /s

midnight adder
#

it’s only a hard beta detector, so the only time that this will produce a reading that’s not background level is when things are so severely wrong as to be unrecoverable anyway. fills the thirst for statistics though.

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there is a nuclear power station nearby though.

hushed basalt
#

Coax is pretty poweful

#

A lot more than twisted pair

#

We're pushing 12Gbit down RG6 sized coax

#

Try doing that with a single unshielded twisted pair over 50m

midnight adder
#

Morning everyone

hushed basalt
#

Also 240v DC lol

midnight adder
#

a question

hushed basalt
#

Evening

midnight adder
#

How do you guys cool the water in your homes?

#

HVAC?

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or do you use the old conventional swamp cooler?

hushed basalt
#

Cool water?

midnight adder
#

yes

hushed basalt
#

I don't understand

midnight adder
#

decreasing the water temperature to a level where it feels a little cold

clear ferry
#

Cool the water?

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We only do that in datacenters with water cooled racks

#

The inlet water in our hoses are probably close to 7-10c right now

#

Cooler in winter

midnight adder
#

What I meant

#

Imagine you're in a humid hot country

#

the only option for cooling the water is an HVAC with coils

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to cool the water tank

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However, using a swamp cooler or an (Evaporative cooler will not suffice)

leaden pelican
rare condor
#

@hushed basalt I was quoted 1500$ AUD per window, I did it for $70

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albeit that was 3.5hr time spent installing and programming tasmota

#

@forest edge Motorised Sliding Doors are very useful. I love walking around my house and not having to close doors or worry about heat lost from split system to other rooms

clear ferry
#

@leaden pelican feels like one server I was using a customer a few years ago, a p3 that was monitoring 5 SANS, it took 90 seconds for every one second update

hearty depot
clear ferry
#

Unsolicited disk pics

#

That is a classic though, before the deathstar

rare condor
#

I still use a 20GB IDE HDD in my garage computer

clear ferry
#

That is modern in comparison

slate marsh
rare condor
#

In fairness I got it on my 5th birthday

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So it feels old to me

clear ferry
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@slate marsh I haven't seen one of those in the flesh since probably.... 1993

#

Might have been 94

slate marsh
#

Yeah to be honest that one is just in my little display of old tech

clear ferry
#

Still remember why, we were copying the incredible machine from one of those to a second floppy haha haha

#

Because we were sharing some games

#

WAREZ

slate marsh
#

I remember trying to backup a early windows machine on to 1.44 MB disks

clear ferry
#

I actually had a friend with 95 osr2 on floppy

#

Think it was close to 100

#

Or maybe it was 98

slate marsh
#

Floppy disks were great. You could corrupt them so easily if you needed an excuse when yo hadn't done something

clear ferry
#

Gps on Norway could opt to receive journals on floppy until atleast 2015 I think

#

Because it was cheaper than connecting to the nation wide gp network

slate marsh
#

Could you buy floppy drives in 2015

hushed basalt
#

@clear ferry people are getting 1000/50 plans in Australia

#

20:1 ratio 🤢

ocean mirage
#

why so asymmetrical, we have the capability for better on FTTP right?

hushed basalt
#

Yeah I'm not sure what the GPON speed limits are

#

But no doubt we can so 1G/1G

#

I got out of telco before NBN rolled out so I'm not sure on the architecture

orchid rose
#

1000/50 here too I think

hushed basalt
#

But I can tell you we damn sure should not be using the copper network in the state it's in

#

It's not even good enough for voice

clear ferry
#

@hushed basalt lol what is this? 2010?

#

@slate marsh they bought up all the stock of norwegian internet shops in the late 00s

#

In 2010 they were still sending out 48000 floppies per year

hearty depot
#

Is coffee an emotion?

clear ferry
#

I just saw someone go into the dvd / Blu-ray aisle in the supermarket

#

And I went like wtf

hearty depot
#

Some guys are collecting stuff

clear ferry
#

I'm guessing more technically inept

#

Because a streaming service like Netflix costs the same as a Blu-ray PepeHmm

#

Oooof

#

26c here now

brazen fable
#

it's nice and cool today

#

windows open

late gate
#

lol. put up the price on the house with 200k NOK and got an offer after 2 hours.

clear ferry
#

How much are you asking for?

#

I bought mine for $200k ish, it was valued at $250 and now I think based on sourrounding prices I could probably get $400 easy

late gate
#

asking 4m nok

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bought it for 1.5m

hushed basalt
#

How long ago did you buy it

late gate
#

5-6 years or so

#

its not in the city so have not had the extreme price rise

#

but good enough

clear ferry
#

That reasonable

#

If I'm buying something new I'm going for atleast 350-400m²

#

So guessing around 5-600k freedom money

#

Preferably as rural as possible

late gate
#

I never going to do a renovation project again at least

#

im taking over my brothers house for now

clear ferry
#

Never doing that at all, I've done 4 rooms in my house in 12 years, that's enough

late gate
#

I bought this built 1972, not been renovated since the 80s

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im so tired of renovation

clear ferry
#

Mine is from 83, renovated a few rooms in the 90s

late gate
#

but I guess you it didnt have a different bright color in each room. this house looked light the rainbow flag

clear ferry
#

I had a lot of interesting colours

#

Salmon pink in the bedroom

#

Totally pink in the washroom

brazen fable
#

This alexa integration is a game changer

clear ferry
#

And navy blue and flaming red in the wife's office

late gate
#

whats up with those colors from the 80s?

clear ferry
#

We should ask some people who were 40 in the 80s

#

Like tinkerer and vasiley

late gate
#

boomers!

clear ferry
#

Or weren't born for 20 more years, like ludeeus

late gate
#

haha

#

yeah

#

well, at least a good excuse now with a full smarthome upgrade

#

was clever enough to remove all smarthome stuff before the sale

#

and photos

clear ferry
#

Yeah, I'll take all mine with me too

#

Including bulbs

#

I've kept all the dumb bulbs

late gate
#

yeah. only thing I cant take is my hue outside lights

#

but removed half of them

#

the solar panel I dont want near to me lol

clear ferry
#

They are actually decently priced, next time I'm changing outdoor lights I'm doing hue fittings

late gate
#

I bought the outside series, the pedistrals and spots when they came on the marked

#

was a bit lower price then actually

hearty depot
#

26° where I sit

late gate
#

inside?

hearty depot
#

jup

hushed basalt
#

Why such a rapid price hike

hearty depot
#

outside like 30
No real A/C - summer ll kill me one again😢
I should move more to north

clear ferry
#

We are probably passing 30 on Monday here

late gate
#

its 27 outside in the shadow here

#

ac inside, so no complaints

clear ferry
#

I have two heat pumps

#

Contemplating getting one more

late gate
#

I bought a multi split one. working great

#

sad I cant bring it

#

one huge outside unit and two inside

clear ferry
#

I would like a Samsung windfree split for our bedroom and the nursery

late gate
#

mitsubishi is great too since it can be controlled by an esp

clear ferry
#

But it's like $18k

#

Samsung has local api

late gate
#

oh thats nice

clear ferry
#

And my 15 year old Panasonic is controlled by broadlink

late gate
#

I use sensibo on the panasonic in the shed

clear ferry
#

I just made a generic heatpunp in ha

#

And it keeps it regulated

late gate
#

with the generic heatpump could control a climate device

clear ferry
#

Yep

late gate
#

to regulate it better

#

now I have to write automation to regulate it more effective

hearty depot
#

aaah just configuring my firewalls - I dont have fun

brazen fable
#

anyone else ever look up and realize you've got about 100 tabs open?

hearty depot
#

happens - just at maybe 60 now

clear ferry
#

@brazen fable 100? Those are rookie numbers

#

If I'm under 250 at any time

#

. Surprised

brazen fable
clear ferry
#

You laugh

#

But it is true

brazen fable
#

I hate having so many tabs open. I always nuke entire windows when it gets to be too many

clear ferry
#

I never care

hearty depot
#

64GB 32 GB ram - no issues
Thourght I packt in 64..

clear ferry
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switch to tab? no fuck that shit

brazen fable
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I have 64gigs on my main computer and my server

clear ferry
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What is this? Servers for ants?

hearty depot
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even with security cameras and several VMs it's only using 26% of that

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and plex

clear ferry
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That is ridiculous

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Unused ram is wasted

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It should be atleast caching the camera stream

brazen fable
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For what. It just direct to disk records

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to a 20TB pooled drive

clear ferry
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Low Res streams saved?

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Usually 3-4 4k cameras will fill the pipeline quickly

late gate
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who need 4k cameras?

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and over 15fps?

hearty depot
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oh yea - bourght unsupported ram for the mainboard I've purchased 🙈 no overclocking to 3200Mhz.. hopefully yet..

brazen fable
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It's running on an 8700k with hardware acceleration

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It does fine

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The iGPU on that chip is a beast

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I was going to throw a quaddro in there but don't need it

clear ferry
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Because bigger is better

brazen fable
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it's running fine

clear ferry
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@late gate muuricans

late gate
clear ferry
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@late gate constant recording and detecting?

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If so 1% disk is interesting

late gate
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yes, direct to disc

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ssd so might be the reason

clear ferry
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There you go

brazen fable
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I run an SSD cache for my pooled drives. Works wonders

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and BI doesn't really take up much space for 1080p cameras TBH

late gate
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using frigate for the object detection

brazen fable
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I think i get like 60 days full recording on all my outdoor cams?

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And that's like 10 of them

late gate
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BI is a bit hit and miss with cpu use etc

brazen fable
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depends on your chip

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a lot of people are running BI on 10 year old dells

late gate
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its so many options its hard to know whats suggested

brazen fable
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if you throw it on a modern chip it barely sips at the CPU

late gate
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but now you can use direct to disc with overlay I think

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so no need with crappy DST on the cameras

brazen fable
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Can you?

late gate
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in the last release I think

brazen fable
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If so I'll switch to that. My cameras time clocks always fall out of sync

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because the VLAN is disconnected from the net

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lol

late gate
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cant guarantee, but think I did see that in the release log lately

clear ferry
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I'm apparently too used to enterprise cameras, have a customer with 10 of them, they fill a 10G network card while recording, and uses as much of the free 256GB ram as possible, before flushing to 72 spinning disks

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For most airports they have one server dedicated per camera too

late gate
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type milestone software?

brazen fable
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I mean, an airports needs are a lot different than a home

clear ferry
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Yes, something like that

brazen fable
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I really don't need to run facial recognition or zoom in on someone's pocket to read a business card

late gate
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frigate is enough for me. handle 100fps with a google coral of live stream detection, not just one frame

brazen fable
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i just wish the BI web interface had better streaming TBH

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I mean it's alright but my network and hardware has the capacity to do far better

clear ferry
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I'm thinking of buying a coral to use with doods, is it good @late gate ?

late gate
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I dont use doods, but the coral is good enough for home use

clear ferry
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Does it get hot?

late gate
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no, not really. I dont really run heavy load on it

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with frigate I run 2-3fps through it pr camera

brazen fable
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@late gate do you use any additional IR lights with your cams?

late gate
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no, but many suggest doing it. I have dahua cameras and the IR works pretty well during night

brazen fable
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Yeah i want to light up my backyard and driveway a bit better

late gate
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thats a 120sqm area

brazen fable
late gate
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great. yeah then we can use the timestamp. all my cameras never have the correct time

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I refuse to run cameras on a non locked vlan

brazen fable
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same

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same for my IoT shit too that has no business using the internet

late gate
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yeah. everyone know im a solar panel whiner, but the solis inverters was so insecure someone tried to use them to install an apk on my nvidia shield somehow

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from a chinese ip

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also they release all grid info without username and password

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so I dont trust a single device

clear ferry
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I have $20 dahua knockoffs, and I can see most of my driveway

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And read license plates

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At night and day

late gate
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I have the originals, so dont know the difference

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but dahua in general has been good to me

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never failed

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in the front yard the IR does not turn on cause its so light sensitive

clear ferry
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I had one fail

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Because I sprayed it with the pressure washer

brazen fable
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direct to disk with timestamps works beautifully. Woo

clear ferry
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Directly haha

late gate
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thats your fault :p

clear ferry