some people are fine with enough room to sit outside
#the-water-cooler
ocean mirage
hushed basalt
Fibre area is newer though
ocean mirage
hence the small blocks
hushed basalt
Yeah
But it means the houses have better codes
So less work uphill to get them performant. In theory
clever mortar
Also depends on what's around you. We moved from large garden to small garden, but nature is just a few minutes walk away
hushed basalt
Although solar gain in winter is probably harder
ocean mirage
does WA have an energy efficiency rating
hushed basalt
Generally narrower blocks in the newer area
I think 6 is the highest here
Required
ocean mirage
its all different scales
hushed basalt
And they usually bullshit that anyways
Play around with their calculators to massage it however they like
ocean mirage
I think ours is a government body that inspects but I really dont know
we are small so easier to do
hushed basalt
I think it's all just simulations self regulated
ocean mirage
either way you sound like you know what you are looking for in terms of efficiency stuff
hushed basalt
An imperical test would be blower door testing and IR cameras
Can't fake those
If I move to a copper area i could be stuck with a 25mbps service for decades
:/
Labor has made it clear they're not going to roll out fttp
fading zodiac
Morning.
hushed basalt
Afternoon
fading zodiac
(:
hushed basalt
Need to send my laptop back
Coil whine is the worst
If I wanted to hear an annoying buzz when I'm trying to work I would just listen to tediore on the voice channels
fading zodiac
Tediore is a man of Boosting his mic.
hearty depot
Apperently I get a TS100 as birtday present from my wife.. now she's asking me wich one. do you know a durable one?
ocean mirage
Is that some kind of terminator
clear ferry
Yes, the Koala Squasher 5000
clear ferry
I bought three different ones
TS-D24 \ TS-BC2 \ TS-I
TS-K \ TS-KU I don't really see the use of
hushed basalt
Pics?
clear ferry
ocean mirage
Why chisel? I think Iโve only used conical
low harness
Chisel gives more contact surface.
And a flat spot for pushing smd components around.
ocean mirage
Ah okay
low harness
I like D24.
limpid wind
Hey guys, the feature in discord to invoke something , is there a name for that?
clever mortar
prefix?
clever mortar
They're used to invoke bots
rain swift
speaking of ts-100, how are you guys grounding yours? do you always use it some place with a nice piece of grounded metal or do you just not ground it? heard if you don't it could fry lots of things.
fading zodiac
Teams is a horrible application
scenic radish
If I wanted to hear an annoying buzz when I'm trying to work I would just listen to tediore on the voice channels
@hushed basalt ๐
hushed basalt
low harness
When I'm very worried, I just wear a wrist strap and touch the grounding screw every now and then. But most of the time I don't worry.
hushed basalt
@ocean mirage my crude sketch
But look at the contact surface area between the two, and imagine where the thermal centre mass is of the iron tip
Also that conical point extends in 3d as well, so it's even worse than the 2d sketch makes apparent
low harness
The conicalchisel is much better at holding on to a solder blob too.
low harness
I do mean chisel
ocean mirage
Oh cool thanks for the sketch
clear ferry
Grounding soldering irons ?
hushed basalt
@rain swift you have to be very conscious if you want your soldering iron to be grounded or not
There's pros and cons for both
clear ferry
I have never done that in 20 years, I do wear ESD equipment when I work on very fragile stuff
but not for everyday soldering
hushed basalt
I recommend ESD protection in general
It's cheap insurance and you can't see the damage without an electron microscope and knowing where to look
clear ferry
Mostly only when I work on audio stuff, that is 10-50 years old tbh
for my diy projects I never wear ESD
clear ferry
I debur most stuff actually
ocean mirage
What is an esd
hushed basalt
Electrostatic damage
rain swift
@clear ferry but the ts-100 isn't grounded and the iron itself can kill components.
clear ferry
no iron I have ever had has been grounded
rain swift
even though it has a 3 prong plug, it apprently isn't grounded at the tip.
hushed basalt
Doesn't it have a grounding attachment
rain swift
it does
I was asking how people ground theirs lol
the hakko's are ESD safe so I assume those are grounded.
clear ferry
I've had... probably 15 irons over the years, in various price classes, never had ground
rain swift
that doesn't mean you weren't damaging components un knowingly lol.
clear ferry
except the one I had at school, that was $40k
rain swift
thats like saying I never check my blind spot and i've never been in an accident.
hushed basalt
Measure the tip to the ground point with an ohmmeter
It will most likely either be <5 ohm or >1M ohm
A hard ground will trip your RCD device if you hit a live mains circuit
A soft ground won't trip a circuit but will protect you from ESD somewhat
No ground won't do either
If the tip to the grounding terminal is hard ground and you don't work on live mains circuits I'd attach it to an ESD point
If it's soft ground I'd attach it directly to real ground
clear ferry
hello flashbacks to 2001
hushed basalt
clear ferry
hushed basalt
rain swift
who solders stuff on live mains circuits?
fathom sparrow
Lol, i've done it
rain swift
someone who really hates their home life lol.
fathom sparrow
Sometimes a band aide is easier than making a new one
hushed basalt
Well it's more capacitors you have to watch out for
fathom sparrow
tis but only a small shock
rain swift
so the general consensus I get is that even though the iron comes with a grounding wire, nobody uses it LOL as for a different power supply, I'm not sure if that would work since the one it came with has 3 prongs, I'd be all about buying a laptop PSU or something and not needing the ground wire at all.
clear ferry
I don't know, I've soldered for 20 years, all stuff I still use still works, I'm not worried, but I use ESD when working with old stuff 
hushed basalt
All the big laptop power supplies I've used are earthed
hushed basalt
๐คทโโ๏ธ china
rain swift
lol
clear ferry
muurrrica
rain swift
eehh
clear ferry
also, I have never seen a grounded iron as said, outside of the $40k range
fathom sparrow
if batteries reliably exploded, we'd be better off in these protests
hushed basalt
Measure the resistance
rain swift
yeah, good idea
forest edge
you all sniffing solder fumes up in here?
clear ferry
I tilt my head
hearty depot
Are there more than one ?
well yes but no
https://www.amazon.de/s?k=TS100&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
is it possible that it is open source hardware?
the question is whom to trust..
NovelLife, GoBuying, SainSmar or whomever
clear ferry
I bought it from aliexpress and going to flash it with the custom firmware is all I know
๐คฃ
rain swift
I got mine from amazon with good reviews and flashed it as soon as I took it out of the box.
low harness
Yeah, the stock fw is stupid. Requiring a computer connection for parameter tweaking. What's up with that?
I got curious and measured the resistance between the ground connection and the tip. It's in the order of one ohm.
And it's not connected to the negative terminal of the DC jack.
clear ferry
Interesting that 5% of those who were unemployed in may are now back working in Norway
that is quite a positive trend
12% of the total workforce was registered as fully or partially unemployed
forest edge
what is that? like 5 people?
clear ferry
clever mortar
Somebody clearly forgot that it's really the dogs doing the work, making sure the humans don't push the wrong buttons
clear ferry
Pigs (Three Different Ones) You say ?
glossy mortar
Hmm, this looks interesting for automating stuff that only has an Android app. https://github.com/budtmo/docker-android
clear ferry
If I only bought crappy hardware that only had android apps 
rare condor
Does look interesting a lot of chinese apps would work without play services and would allow automations for these.
Yay! Finished hacking my Tuya Curtains!!!
I no longer have to stand up for such a heinous task! /s if not implied
hearty depot
eehhh.. --privileged ๐คข
rain swift
@low harness so you're saying that ground cable isn't really needed.
steel urchin
@forest edge new firmware for the amcrest
last plaza
No matter how many times I watch this, I still find it funny! https://youtu.be/YpLMnziTwCA I wonder if there is a real dead person in that coffin...
forest edge
@steel urchin and what does it change?
clear ferry
It crashes more
last plaza
and what does it change?
@forest edge new feature automatic upload of your camera feed to China.
unreal orbit
That's not new
low harness
@rain swift I charge $240/hr to make an official statement on anything regarding ground wires.
forest edge
@forest edge new feature automatic upload of your camera feed to China.
@last plaza sounds about right
last plaza
lol - like that jim Carrey movie - where all Chinese sitting there and watching and putting bets
Like Truman Show, it would be Sonoma Show
forest edge
not me @steel urchin . my shit is 100% local
I don't understand cyclist who go on social media sites to instruct everyone they have legal right to be on the roads and shouldn't ride on shoulders just cause traffic backs up behind them THEN proceed to complain about getting liquids thrown on them while they ride lol
unreal orbit
cyclists ๐ก
last plaza
Never thought of throwing liquids at bicyclists. Not that I ever do that... ๐
Maybe the car drivers care about the bicyclists so much , when it is hot, they throw cold water at them to keep them cool ๐
light trout
if you tilt the nozle of your window sprayer, you can aim it at them when you pass by
last plaza
๐คฃ
unreal orbit
"oops"
clear ferry
@light trout had a friend do that in 2002 with his Saab 99, he would drive past people and spray them 
gilded canyon
Am I losing my shit in thinking Home Assistant or Nabu Casa released a hardware appliance preloaded with HASS? A Pi or something?
I thought I remembered seeing something about that a while ago, but now I can't find anything
light trout
Cabu Nasa probably
gilded canyon
I'd assume so but can't see anything on their site or in any press releases
light trout
Cabu Nasa exsists?
gilded canyon
If only ๐ I was just rolling over that one
Starting to think I just made this shit up in my head tbh, shame it's not real (if it isn't) since that'd be pretty cool.
clever mortar
There's (today anyway) no such beast
light trout
How did it look?
What was the specs?
clever mortar
Ah, that's it, you came in a 
from the future, where one exists!
gilded canyon
Not the foggiest, I just thought I saw an announcement about it... Maybe I saw a suggestion for something like that and got it mixed up in memory ๐
Well cheers for clearing that up @clever mortar
light trout
There has been a few suggestions for one on the forums
clever mortar
For the last ... couple of years anyway
gilded canyon
Gap in the market there eh, I bet a good number of people would be interested in a pre-built appliance, even if it's just a Pi 4 with HassOS installed.
clever mortar
I'd expect more an ODroid - SD cards die too fast
light trout
yeah, that sounds more right
gilded canyon
Mm that's a good shout
forest edge
you are thinking of Habitat or whatever the hell that thing is
unreal orbit
Or homeseer
clear ferry
Good thing I'm not designing it
clever mortar
Hubitat, Homey, HomeSeer...
clear ferry
It would be 36U tall and run on three phase power
forest edge
nah, it would be limited to 3rd world countries only then
last plaza
USA it is then.
clear ferry
Like the US? Yes
forest edge
we're 2nd world tyvm
clever mortar
I could probably get three phase power here, but the cost would likely be "interesting"
clear ferry
Really
All distribution here is three phase
So it is easy to hookup
We have it in the fuse box
unreal orbit
Three phase is more of a commercial thing here. We have it at work iirc
last dirge
220 split phase life
unreal orbit
Yeah the air compressors are 230V 3 phase, just checked
clear ferry
unreal orbit
๐ฆ
clever mortar
We only need one phase for 230V+ ๐
unreal orbit
It actually may be 460, I'm not sure what the line is. The motor is rated for 230/460
forest edge
@clear ferry your weird
orchid rose
you're*
forest edge
ur
orchid rose
no u
forest edge
freedom or starving wolves surrounding your home?
man it's gonna suck if movie theaters go under
clear ferry
I'm surprised they haven't yet
I've been in a movie theater three times the last 12 years
unreal orbit
It's almost like you're not their most important customer
forest edge
I don't go all that often but for some movies there is just not substitute
last dirge
mmmm, steak soup for dinner
steel urchin
uhhh no clue @forest edge ... i had someone ring my doorbell for the first time in a few months and when i went to pull up the app it told me there was a new firmware
mmmm
sous vide?
i've always wanted to try sous vide, but don't have the patience
takes too damn long
i like throwing my meat on a grill and burning it for a few minutes
kind lantern
Partner just asked me what I was doing....
โsetting up home assistant to work out when we are at homeโ
โwhyyyy?! We are at home all the time at the moment, I donโt think weโve left the house together in ten weeksโ
COVID problems....
scenic radish
This is hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyejT4VPzlE
no surprise at all what car lasted the longest
low harness
I heard Top Gear tried that with a Volvo 740 or so at some point, and they just couldn't kill it.
clever mortar
And the Toyota Hilux
clear ferry
Fifth gear ran petrol cars on diesel and visa versa, that was pretty good too
scenic radish
i plan on driving my scion (toyota) tC until it dies
at about 105,000 miles now, so i've probably only got 900,000 more miles left :/
clear ferry
Lulz
Highest mileage car I had was my Audi 100, it had 430000 km on it when I got rid of it
tidal bronze
@last dirge looks ๐
clever mortar
I've not taken anything past about 150K miles
Last car gave up the ghost shy of 90K
last dirge
@steel urchin my Instant Pot does Sous Vide
clear ferry
That is what I do in 4 years mostly
last dirge
pull the steak out of the freezer, toss in some rosemary from the front flowerbed, a pad of butter, re-seal it
then in 2 hours, toss it on the grill for 60 seconds per cross-turn
tidal bronze
Been grilling twice a day for almost 2 months now ๐
tidal bronze
After 2 months going to have some chicken today.
shy comet
ahhahah
mmm sous vide chicken
@last dirge what time/temp do you normally do for chicken breast?
shy comet
lmao
tidal bronze
lol
last dirge
whole bird spatchcocked on the smoker at 325 until the breast hits 170
tidal bronze
163 for me and rest for 10 min
shy comet
i shoot for 165 in teh breast...in the sous vide though i normally do 155 for 1 hour
chicken wings 160 for 2 hours, then toss in the fryer
scenic radish
i make some pretty killer grilled boneless skinless chicken breast. coat in olive oil, season with salt and red/black pepper. still juicy and tastes awesome
shy comet
man i started to make Dr. Pepper BBQ sauce...been puttig it on everything i cook lol
shy comet
i heard avocado oil is great for searing
personally ive been doing chimney starter to sear steak
tidal bronze
If you don't want meat to taste like oil then avocado or flax seed oil.
shy comet
hmm
tidal bronze
Both are neutral so won't lace the taste ๐
steel urchin
yeah see 2 hours i can't deal with ๐คฃ same reason i scalp instead of day trade... i have very little patience for things
clear ferry
Olive oil 
tidal bronze
Yep same here.
steel urchin
avocado and coconut oil are mostly what we use at the house... olive oil in a pinch
or grapeseed if we want to be fancy
clear ferry
Pff fresh olive oil while in the Mediterranean, nothing beats it
tidal bronze
coconut is great but does not do well with high heat.
steel urchin
true, but most people cook on too high anyway ๐
tidal bronze
Guilty.
steel urchin
any time i see someone cook, it's literally all i can do to not cringe and say "turn that shit down"
tidal bronze
Extra short time but extreme heat all day for me.
tidal bronze
Not if you prep right.
steel urchin
no i can't do that lol
tidal bronze
This is why I dislike chicken. Always uneven and gotta flatten that crap.
steel urchin
i do like medium rare, but still mooing is not my bag
clear ferry
Then again, i eat raw ground meat and bacon
clear ferry
unreal orbit
Raw bacon?
clear ferry
tidal bronze
Nothing like steak with a good even crust, cultured butter basted for a few ๐
scenic radish
alright so i now have three /64 ipv6 subnets for my three VLANS... not sure if only 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 devices per VLAN will be enough...
scenic radish
yeah i kinda screwed myself over
unreal orbit
At least we get a later curfew ๐
shy comet
haha yea 9pm
scenic radish
it was like 96 here yesterday
clever mortar
14 today ๐
unreal orbit
Happy birthday ๐
scenic radish
unkempt geyser
Anyone using a meater?
@tidal bronze https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/715499879631159387
scenic radish
my ISP only lets me grab a /60 prefix instead of a /56 so i can only have up to 16 /64 subnets. stingy bastards
literally unusable
forest edge
your gonna end up with a bunch of connections capped at like dial up speeds
scenic radish
clever mortar
Turns out my ISP gives me a /48 ๐คท
scenic radish
forest edge
you separating all your crap.. well I say all as if that implied you had a bunch even tho we all know you are putting one device per vvlan
clever mortar
I could have a VLAN party...
scenic radish
will 65536 /64's be enough?
clever mortar
Not sure...
unreal orbit
@scenic radish does it say in your ISP paperwork say somewhere that it supports ipv6 or did you just enable it on your router to check?
forest edge
it should, he's running comcrap out of chicago which is one of thier data centers
scenic radish
i've had ipv6 enabled for a few years actually @unreal orbit
but since i can have VLANs now i delegated ipv6 prefixes to each of them
forest edge
"since my router has bells and whistles i've enabled ALL OF THEM"
scenic radish
comcrap, lol. my longest outage i think has been like 5 minutes
i mean, yeah? if i'm gonna buy "prosumer" hardware i might as well use the additional functionality
shy comet
@unkempt geyser you didnt get any readings from MAX6675? thats the one i use
unkempt geyser
No however I have noticed that my experience of readings between different k-type thermometers has been varied.
shy comet
i can tell you for a fact that they dont last long
i repalce mine about every 3 months or so
they start to fray and you get Nan readings or very high jumps when they start to fail
i like that issue, got a lot going on there lol
tidal bronze
@unkempt geyser outstanding ๐ Thanks for sharing.
viscid solar
can the friendly name be used in service calls? or only entity names?
unreal orbit
.topic @viscid solar
velvet horizonBOT
viscid solar
sorry
tidal bronze
@unkempt geyser so plus or block?
unkempt geyser
Theyโre expensive donโt get me wrong. After buying the Plus and comparing it side by side with the block. Iโd have to say block all the way. After getting the single plus unit I felt a second would be useful while my rotisserie was spinning I could grill some steak. The block is ideal for this. Additionally with my Docker image Iโm currently testing itโs easy to connect up to 5 probes locally. If you want more just create another container ๐ I should add the block was a kind gift. Considering the price Iโd struggle to justify it but would likely have talked myself into it. Would I have liked to talk myself into having brought already brought the Plus. Not really. So in short. The Block.
tidal bronze
Got it. I read about the gift. That was nice of them ๐
brazen fable
@clear ferry my electric bill is like $5/day lmao
tidal bronze
@unkempt geyser I do grill a lot don't mind spending if it makes life easy.
It's always 2 different meats so.....
clear ferry
@brazen fable last month was $25, spent 2600kwh
brazen fable
I don't think I've had an electric bill under $80
forest edge
I believe in living in comfort, my electric bill is way more
unkempt geyser
At which point with two you are two thirds the way there to the cost of a Block. Additional benefit with the Block is the standalone and WiFi capability and battery.
clear ferry
You guys and your freedom
forest edge
go back to your exercise bike generator and further reduce your bill!
tidal bronze
@unkempt geyser leaning towards the block as well.
clear ferry
I did own a bike, sometime around 2004
tidal bronze
Almost but with a pink basket
clear ferry
Nah, I stopped riding it and it rusted over after being buried in 15 feet of snow
forest edge
lol basket and little honk horn
how does it rust ovver so fast being buried in some snow? lol
chinesium bike lol
tidal bronze
From his kwh usage i thinking he is generating for the entire city.
clear ferry
Over multiple years for sure, since I didn't ride it
forest edge
all 20 people of it
forest edge
@clear ferry typical, not taking care your stuff tisk tisk
hushed basalt
Probably runs a heater in one half of the house and aircon in the other
tidal bronze
Probably drying meat with the heater
clear ferry
Actually according to my power company statistics, I use 30% less than other houses of my size
tidal bronze
what size is that ?
light trout
That can not be right
tidal bronze
Lmao
forest edge
you are probably the only person who leaves the windows open during a snow storm too lol
clear ferry
255mยฒ
tidal bronze
English?
light trout
255mยฒ
clear ferry
Sorry, don't do bald eagle units
forest edge
it's just under 3k sqf
tidal bronze
See
tidal bronze
Leg of lamb is like wtf
light trout
lamb is a type of animal
clear ferry
forest edge
Norwegians probably have some ancient technique passed down that require atx to sit infront of the meat with like one of those Ricola commercial horns and blow hot breath air over the meat to dry it lol
tidal bronze
LMFAO
hushed basalt
I was watching an aws tutorial video last night and it took me a minute to realise the guy was writing the lamdba in python
Trying to learn at 10pm isn't conductive
I'm like "wait this is Python, I know this"
tidal bronze
@forest edge I guess that's how they do it in tiny remote villages. You learn something new everyday
clear ferry
Currently I'm in bed, and the house is powered down, I'm using 5kw right now
forest edge
yea the hot air horn belonged to his great great great great grandfather who first settled in the area lol
Currently I'm in bed, and the house is powered down, I'm using 5kw right now
@clear ferry i knew it. you sit in the cold to save money!
tidal bronze
I can imagine the meat drying smell all around the house.
unreal orbit
Especially lamb meat
clear ferry
light trout
Alte Byeason did not settle, he conquered
tidal bronze
Ok
clear ferry
The leg smells of nothing as it is placed in salt for a week before drying
hushed basalt
That's like $12000 a year here in base load
forest edge
@clear ferry your house power down done through an app or did you hook some fancy RF remote button up next to bed to shut the house down? lol
hushed basalt
Let alone daytime consumption
clear ferry
@forest edge ifttt and smartthings you know
hushed basalt
Atx's electrical consumption would cost like $25k a year here
forest edge
just wait, one day he'll post a picture of him in bed and he'll be under a few layers of yak fur lmao
tidal bronze
Its not for civilized parts of the world. @hushed basalt
hushed basalt
Time convince the wife to move to Norway
Fibre and basically free electricity
Homelab here I come
forest edge
there's a catch
clear ferry
I prefer 5 degrees in the bedroom, the wife prefers 18, so I just sleep on top of the covers
hushed basalt
Run a 12 node cluster of 720s to run nzbget
tidal bronze
No one comes near you as well
hushed basalt
No one speaks to me here either :(
forest edge
lol
forest edge
the before and after is the same picture? lol
tidal bronze
Yep
unreal orbit
Sounds like my kind of place tbh
static schooner
bad metric<->imperial conversion
hushed basalt
clear ferry
It's nice
tidal bronze
Awesome. Can dry meat in tandem @unreal orbit
unreal orbit
I just don't do snow very well
tidal bronze
WowzA
clear ferry
@light trout has never been within 50 feet of another person, I've dared to go 35feet
light trout
35?!?!?! ๐ฎ
clear ferry
static schooner
well-endowed
chilly nymph
Ok new question. Who is dangerously good at both math and Excel?
light trout
excel ๐คข
hushed basalt
There's an annual day like the purge
unreal orbit
Dangerously good? I'm not sure what that means
unkempt geyser
Ok new question. Who is dangerously good at both math and Excel?
@chilly nymph hit me
hushed basalt
Where they're allowed to come in close contact
tidal bronze
Epic
forest edge
they have to be blindfolded and told what they are touching is not a real person but a blown up doll
light trout
we are allowed, we just prefer not to
clear ferry
unreal orbit
So much Norwegia bullying ๐ฆ
forest edge
i know
hushed basalt
They are bullies yes
forest edge
if we didn't love atx, we wouldn't rip atx it's as simple as that lol
chilly nymph
So I am trying to figure out what the most I can afford for a house is in every city in my state based on the total monthly payment. Which includes taxes, insurance, and p&I. The only three variables I have are the tax rate, insurance rate, and total payment I want to make.
hushed basalt
In Australia it's when someone is being nice to you, you should be worried
forest edge
exactly
clear ferry
chilly nymph
Tax rate is different per town. Insurance rate is static @unkempt geyser
I have the dataset for tax rates though
forest edge
@clear ferry don't cry too much, wouldn't want your eyelids to freeze open then you couldn't sleep lol
clear ferry
Just move to Norway@chilly nymph
chilly nymph
And I can easily calculate what each variable would be if I had the home value, but that's the figure I'm trying to back into
@clear ferry I would actually really like that
brazen fable
Oh yeah? Well I can easily calculate what I'm having for dinner
chilly nymph
I'm thinking this needs vba or a macro
chilly nymph
Lol
tidal bronze
@chilly nymph is this your primary or income property?
chilly nymph
It will be my primary
tidal bronze
Why would want to pick by price first ?
hushed basalt
I should study lingustics
forest edge
what the hell ever happened to "hey I like this house, i can afford this house.. let's get it!"
hushed basalt
Seems like a much better way to learn your second language if you have a grasp of linguistics first
unreal orbit
Figuring out if you can afford it is still complicated
chilly nymph
I'm making a weighted formula based on home value to school district ranking and distance from my wife's and my work
hushed basalt
Because a first home can be like 1000% of someones net worth tied to a single asset
tidal bronze
Do you have that many in the market to begin with ?@chilly nymph
chilly nymph
Preferring lower tax rate to a good school district
unreal orbit
Word of advice: taxes change very rapidly. Our property tax went up 25% this year compared to last year, so give yourself wiggle room on that one
hushed basalt
10x worse than no diversication in an asset
chilly nymph
@unreal orbit yep that's the plan
forest edge
every aspect of a house's area can change rabidly
hushed basalt
I can't wait to own a house
unreal orbit
A mortgage payment is fixed
forest edge
can be the best school district than the states worst in a what feels like a blink of an eye.. seen that ehere first hand lol
unreal orbit
(usually)
unreal orbit
30 year fixed is standard here
hushed basalt
2-17% over the past 30 years
Banks/reserve bank can just twiddle some knobs and control your disposable income at their whim
chilly nymph
Fixed.
This is not my first home purchase. It's just the first I plan to stay in for over 10 years.
unreal orbit
So what are you actually trying to figure out? What you can afford based on a monthly payment?
chilly nymph
I have an excel sheet with the tax rate of every town in my state. I'm trying to back in to what the home value would be in reach town based on a fixed monthly payment.
If I was only trying to figure it out based on p&I that would be easy
unreal orbit
Does the tax rate of the surrounding cities fluctuate that much?
unreal orbit
yikes
tidal bronze
Tax is not county based ?
wet pilot
Localities can tack on additional
hushed basalt
Gimme gimme gimme
ocean mirage
Pretty sure we wanted fixed and we could only get one thatโs fixed for a few years and then variable
chilly nymph
In my state, taxes are based on the town. In some states it's based on county though
dull chasm
simply move ..... my taxes are based on acre's ....but be prepared need a good tractor and 5 hours to cut the grass LOL
last plaza
@dull chasm did you buy the tractor yet?
hushed basalt
Get an army of robot lawnmowers
dull chasm
no still working with JD dealer ...prolly in a couple months or so
im at the 30k mark trying to get lower
last plaza
๐
dull chasm
i dont need it till june of next year so i can make them sweat LOL
raw estuary
New fangled farm equipment
with all them software as a service and gps
satellite driven data acquisition
dull chasm
not at this size ....larger yes ....
raw estuary
Nothing like John Deer Green
dull chasm
there is JD and there is .....well not much else
hushed basalt
viscid lantern
Nice lawnmowers
tidal bronze
now thats sexy ^^^^
@dull chasm ๐
dull chasm
i know thanks ..might need a go fund me ๐คฃ
tidal bronze
You gonna automate it or what ?
dull chasm
yep with a budwiser
tidal bronze
Lol
Did one little smaller than that about 3 years ago with way point missions etc. Was very interesting
dull chasm
there is no auto steer type functions on this
tidal bronze
Rack was stepper driven was a test for irrigation with the sprayers.
dull chasm
are talking about same thing?
tidal bronze
Looked the same no idea about tractors lol.
dull chasm
i can get a 200hp if you give me a donation
tidal bronze
Can you pull a wheelie ?
dull chasm
with a load on rear sure
thats ^^^ a 200 hp one
@tidal bronze you helping with financeing
dusky plank
https://bilder.landwirt.com/ez/ezimagecatalogue/catalogue/phppvHSe5.jpg
representing steyr austria 
fathom sparrow
@dull chasm boo john deer. case ih, new holland, kubota, claas, kioti > john deer. John deer's all about not letting you service your own vehicles. scam to the max.
scenic radish
O'DOYLE RULES!
last plaza
@fathom sparrow I do my own service on my JD. Like any stealership, they want you to bring the vehicle in for service. I donโt follow my own rules, let alone JDโs!
Their pickup and delivery charges are outrageous along with their service charges.
rare condor
Who would have guessed the demographic link between farmers and HASS users... ๐ค
rain swift
Not me
clear ferry
Speaking of taxes and mortgages @tidal bronze @hushed basalt @chilly nymph we only have property tax in the two biggest cities I believe, and we have variable mortgage rates as standard, 25 years and 2.6% what I started at, currently I have 13 years left and I have 1.49% interest rate, and in that time my house and property has so far doubled in value
tidal bronze
That's a great rate. I really don't think about property taxes. Pointless thinking about things beyond control. ๐
I do have a few mortgages but all are paid by tenants including 90% of the primary mortgage. Wife's in banking so rates are pretty discounted as well.
tidal bronze
Nice. Highest rate I have is 3.15 I believe. Finance is not my subject to think or worry about. That's my wife's department ๐
I am actually clueless when it comes to bills etc. Never handled anything in maybe 18 or 20 years. ๐
clear ferry
We also have interest free student loans until we are done studying, then 2.1-2.4% after that
Although a certain percentage of the loan is converted to scholarship if you pass your exams
I think it was 50% last I checked
hushed basalt
I forget it's an olympics year this year
wet pilot
it is. likely not going to happen
clear ferry
It's already postponed isn't it?
clear ferry
It's the fall Olympics
wet pilot
they're a scam anyway
ocean mirage
My concepts donโt care about your facts
clear ferry
@hushed basalt like all it exams
Ms exams are only right if they are grammatically identical to the book
hushed basalt
It's so bad because instead of devoting resources to learning concepts and methods you will actually use
You have to devote resources to memorising which api command is correct
Literally sometimes the options are like ...instance vs ...instances
fading zodiac
Morning (afternoon for @hushed basalt
clear ferry
hushed basalt
Damn straight
24 hours to download 400GB
What is this, Norway 2004
25-80Mbps is going to feel constrained long term :'(
clear ferry
I still renemby using resume software to download Titanic in 97
Was 3 VCDs
Took me like a week
fading zodiac
Your hearth must go on.
hushed basalt
James Cameron is a dick to worth with I've been told
I'm optimising a season in plex
QHD VP9 to 1080p 20mbit
My poor NAS cpu
bitter horizon
Anyone here using vscode local on their computer and git for HA ?
fathom sparrow
yes many people do
dull chasm
@fathom sparrow you will be lonely where I live with anything but green.
Anybody else getting random dms of giveaways
fathom sparrow
My father-in-law is the largest dealer in New York for all the brands I listed. Ever since John Deere Removed the ability to service your own equipment, business has been booming
bitter horizon
@fathom sparrow Do you pull from your git repo to HA or push from ha to github?
dull chasm
That same software shit is even being pushed by Gm and I am sure rest will follow
hushed basalt
@rare condor i mean UHD*
It's really dumb terminology
Since UHD is quad the resolution of HD
fathom sparrow
@bitter horizon depends on where you made changes. If you're only making local changes and you never make changes on github through the website, then you'll always be pushing. Otherwise if you make a change on github through the website, then you need to pull and merge your changes before you push. I suggest you use snapshots if you don't understand git. You'll mess it up (like we all have at some point) and you'll need a second backup to restore what you broke.
or you'll need intimate knowledge with the system to undo your changes
formal ember
Hello there
I have Cielo Smart Thermostat
Is there anyway can I integrate it in HA
I found NodeJs for Homebridge that use websocket to connect the Smart Cielo website and fetch the data
I have tried to make one with python ๐ but without luck
Any Ideas? Or easy way to do it
Btw, the thermostat use ESP12-F
bitter horizon
@fathom sparrow I understand git, but wanna know what approach others are using. Im thinking of doing like this. VScode client on local computer .----> push to github ----> HA pulls config.
You can also connect via ssh addon in vscode direct to server and dev there, but then you need to push from HA to github
Thinking of what bestpractice is
fathom sparrow
I mean, you're the only one working on it. The best practice is what works for you. In a real world situation you'd want to pull & update & merge before you push your changes.
clever mortar
~crosspost @formal ember
velvet horizonBOT
fathom sparrow
but because you're the only person making changes, all you need to do is push as long as you don't make a change via another stream.
low harness
~crosspost @clever mortar ๐
velvet horizonBOT
forest edge
mod on mod... round 1... fight..
nothing like waking up to strong winds reorganizing stuff in your yard lol
forest edge
apparently, it felt my downspout was better served in the neighbors yard
forest edge
it also felt that my neighbors amazon boxes that had been on thier front porch for the last 2 days was better suited in the street lol
bitter horizon
@fathom sparrow How to you mean, you can only push to git if you directly connected to the servers files. If you only push like i said then the server will not get the new files
fathom sparrow
you push, then make a PR on git and apply the changes.
commit*
then fastforward your master branch on local, which i guess is considered a pull
bitter horizon
@fathom sparrow tried this one? https://github.com/home-assistant/hassio-addons/blob/master/git_pull/DOCS.md
fathom sparrow
no, i currently use gitkracken
or cli
usually git kracken because I don't have cli memorized
fading zodiac
ITs quiet today
green inlet
That is likely because other things are not so quiet today
at least on my side of the pond ๐
last plaza
it also felt that my neighbors amazon boxes that had been on thier front porch for the last 2 days was better suited in the street lol
@forest edge they are probably filled with dog poop to treat porch pirates.
oblique nymph
whats the best place to hire a full stack freelance developer
clever mortar
Hell?
clear ferry
Check the garden department of Home Depot
They usually line up outside
Put three in the truck
oblique nymph
I've tried toptal - but my project may be too small for there "type"
last plaza
Check the garden department of Home Depot
@clear ferry full stack not hay stack ๐
clever mortar
Should be the hardware department of Home Depot ๐
last plaza
Full stack should be plumbing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tizjq_Ux_zQ replace oil boys with full stack developers.
last dirge
DO YOU REALIZE WHAT YOU'VE JUST DONE?!
I'm about to lose my damn mind on these people
"If we don't get this working, we'll likely lose two of our largest clients"
so I take the initiative to "get this working"
nobody offers support but they want to bike shed the hell out of it
last plaza
lmao
last dirge
I really wish the job market wasn't so crappy right now
clear ferry
Come over here, join @wet pilot and @last plaza in their move to Norway @last dirge
hushed basalt
It's not possible to be good at full stack
Well not great
Oh and design too, that's included in full stack right
oblique nymph
seems I've touched a nerve in here. I'll be on my way then.
forest edge
Come over here, join @wet pilot and @last plaza in their move to Norway @last dirge
@clear ferry they aren't "moving to norway" they just trying to find a good place to dump the trash and grass clippings.
last plaza
When Norway adopts freedom units, Iโd move right away ๐
hushed basalt
How many big macs to an cm?
orchid rose
3/8 of a gallon
hushed basalt
When you work in an industry tha uses metric and imperial simulatenously
forest edge
metric is good for small pc fan dimensions lol
hushed basalt
and sending things into space
forest edge
i hear "metric ton" alot too
hushed basalt
In film and tv, distances are measured in feet and inches, film is measured in feet, but the capture size on that film is measured in mm and so are lenses
orchid rose
there are three different tons
forest edge
those are some big girls
orchid rose
short, long and metric I think
hushed basalt
2000lb, 1000kg and something else?
ocean mirage
My least favourite part of imperial is that to go smaller than inches you start using fractions
So bad
forest edge
math is hard
hushed basalt
Fractions are for pizza
orchid rose
not fractions of 10 either, but 8...
makes my brain hurt when I try to quickly count what size it would correspond to in mm
last dirge
thousandths, yo
hushed basalt
1/2/3/5: 8/16/32/64
last dirge
boom, it's base 10
hushed basalt
Simple right
Quarter of an inch is about the smallest I'd ever say
Anything less than that is just insane to not use metric
orchid rose
Screen sizes are in inches here too and so are pipes and maybe some other stuff that I'm forgetting now
hushed basalt
Three fiddy
scenic radish
damn loch ness monster
hushed basalt
Just a whole lot of cognititve load for no gain
forest edge
@scenic radish steal your car again?
scenic radish
not to verizon
orchid rose
?
scenic radish
it was. too bad the customer did a horrible job of explaining it too
he just started repeating the same thing over and over instead of rephrasing
granted, he shouldn't have to rephrase, but still
orchid rose
oof, does this go on for half an hour?
orchid rose
I'm giving up after 4 minutes
scenic radish
don't blame you
orchid rose
I don't remember if it was here that I saw this: https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/76144/why-no-one-wanted-aws-third-pound-burger
clearly 1/4 > 1/3
unreal orbit
It's interesting that most people have no problem realizing that 1/2 is greater than 1/4 though
strange vapor
clear ferry
@hushed basalt @unreal orbit @orchid rose that is where metric is more understandable even for imbicils, 400g is clearly more than 300g
unreal orbit
I agree ๐ฆ
unreal orbit
My job is hard enough without having to do fractions for capacitance as well as physical capacitor size
unreal orbit
You say 3/32 as a joke, but a lot of our capacitor film measures width this way. We have 15/32" width film. And it makes me want to die ๐
and our specs are in decimal
fun times
It gets even more fun when everything is different. Example: 1/2" material with a 1.5mm margin with an expected extension of 1/64" and a final size of .562"
clear ferry
I don't joke I've seen those sizes
unreal orbit
It is a struggle I have every day
unreal orbit
@clear ferry happy birthday! ๐ ๐ฅณ
clever mortar
Remind me 18 hours
unreal orbit
I do, but I did before so not much has changed
scenic radish
๐ข
last plaza
Sorry - Iโm back. Are we settled on freedom units? ๐
scenic radish
fairly
read: extremely
wet pilot
it was attempted once
last plaza
lol. Agree. I hate fractions too!
wet pilot
a lot of things have shadow converted
scenic radish
i simply don't understand why the US hasn't always used metric
last plaza
I got wrench set that has 11/32 and 17/32 sizes. I donโt think I will ever use them!
scenic radish
yeah good point phnx
wet pilot
metric came out of France
scenic radish
speaking of which, where the fuck is my 10mm socket
wet pilot
magic'd away
unreal orbit
Never where you need it
wet pilot
oh, metric came out of the French Revolution in 1799
scenic radish
here we go, this is what i need: https://www.amazon.com/10mm-Socket-Ten-Pack-Multi-Type/dp/B07F7LDYJF
last plaza
You will always find it in the last place you looked.
wet pilot
so yeah, that makes sense
scenic radish
i'll take your entire stock
ok so anyone using a reverse proxy, how are you filtering traffic? i'm using NGINX but i don't think i'm using it to its full potential
it's nice that i can only access services via a domain name and access multiple services by only having one port open but that's all i'm using it for currently
unreal orbit
I think that's all most of us would use it for
I use it at work for very basic file hosting
scenic radish
yeah, i guess i'm wigged out now because i saw one person post something like "if you're not doing any filtering in NGINX you might as well just have ports open for each service" which i don't agree with at all but i just assume other people are smarter than i am lol
but now that i think about it again that seems like a really dumb comment
unreal orbit
Yeah that is dumb. Because it also gives you the ability to utilize subdomains effectively
scenic radish
exactly
unreal orbit
Not to mention it would take forever to open all those ports
so
?????
would be my response
scenic radish
lol i should have replied with that
plus you need to know the specific domain name used to access the service
unreal orbit
Yup, plus all your services should have their own authentication
unreal orbit
I think you can also slap on basic http auth with nginx if they don't
scenic radish
cloudflare actually makes it really easy to tie auth to a service to your google account or another provider
unreal orbit
that's neat
scenic radish
yeah. plus proxying your A or AAAA records through them... ๐
so pinging the domain name shows one of cloudflare's IPs, not my own
but yeah, i still use the auth provided by the services themselves in case something weird happens with cloudflare
wet pilot
you could have nginx forward auth requests to another service prior to passing through the proxy
scenic radish
yeah i might end up doing that at some point but i wanted to go lazymode and use cloudflare's option lol
forest edge
@clear ferry today is your birthday?
unreal orbit
tomorrow
forest edge
oh snap, atx will finally be old enough to ride the bumper cars
scenic radish
nah he's like 67 now
unreal orbit
another birthday
myage++;
forest edge
kind of weird.. now that I think about it I don't think i've heard of the term, "hot scottish girls" lol
sweden must drown everyone else out over there
forest edge
well have you?
unreal orbit
Karen Gillan is Scottish ๐
forest edge
talking about the term, you know like a saying
evveryone has heard about california girls etc
unreal orbit
"California girls" never really made sense to me either as we are not a homogeneous population
forest edge
it's a saying, just like sweden girls si a saying
just pointing out, i've neard heard one about scottish girls lol
scenic radish
forest edge
before you were born teddie
orchid rose
She clearly took exception to being called a girl
last dirge
she's a stunner
unreal orbit
Not a term I would use, but she's cute sure
Scottish accent always counts for a few levels in my book though
orchid rose
That's true for sure
clear ferry
The ones you can understand atleast @unreal orbit
clever mortar
Idinnakenwhayamean
clear ferry
I'm pretty proficient in English, but sometimes I have to ask people to type
clever mortar
Broad Scots has very little in common with English...
scenic radish
Getting a lot of mileage out of that Trump emoji lately lol
last dirge
THE GREATER GOOD
clear ferry
tidal bronze
@clear ferry what's the better zigbee module you mentioned?
orchid rose
I don't have that much of a problem understanding scottish accent, but maybe I just haven't heard the worst of it
scouse accent though... 
rain swift
We should re kickoff the scottish revolution, I really think they could break away from the brits now without much issue.
clever mortar
Well... politics ๐
rain swift
d'oh
forest edge
maybe when you tire and don't pedal the generator bike as fast lol
clear ferry
Probably cooking dinner
last dirge
@tidal bronze did you figure out your quantum leap?
green inlet
This has to be one of the top ten things, in my book, to come out of corona virus
https://youtu.be/hFZFjoX2cGg
tidal bronze
@last dirge lol yes. Long story. New esxi install forgot time sync. When synology pulls vm back up it was messing up the VM time for few minutes. Phew ๐คฃ
last dirge
fun stuff
clever mortar
Somebody needs to invent a method of synchronising time on computers
I'll call it the nearly time protocol
scenic radish
"No!" Tediore Pleads
clever mortar
Nice Tea Please?
clear ferry
Never Taking Pauses
forest edge
This has to be one of the top ten things, in my book, to come out of corona virus
https://youtu.be/hFZFjoX2cGg
@green inlet that was awesome lol
clever mortar
not that precise
clear ferry
I still laugh every time i think of the four socket pentium 3 machine I had to run NTP every two seconds on to keep it barely in time
Because Linux wasn't very fond of multi socket systems
Atleast no the version of Debian I was running at the time
clever mortar
Or the systems that had poor thermal regulation and would run faster/slower
green inlet
Right, and a Russian accent gets the rise in the Leviโs well before a Scottish accent. Am I wrong.
eager vortex
woohoo
scenic radish
I don't know what that means @green inlet but I'm gonna ๐ because others are
unreal orbit
If all your friends were named Cliff would you jump off them?
forest edge
clear ferry
shy comet
looks like the curfews are over out here
orchid rose
Cool. Now you can sit at home because of Covid-19 instead again ๐
orchid rose
it does seem to be far less infectious than it was thought at first, so hopefully it won't be too bad even after the obvious problems with lack of distancing
last dirge
I wouldn't say "less infectious"
low harness
It infects differently. But not less.
last dirge
I'd say fewer symptomatic carriers
shy comet
yea id say numbers are low due to peopel staying home
forest edge
don't think it's been long enough to tell
shy comet
yea were still in wave 1
low harness
orchid rose
According to recent studies there are far less non-symptomatic carriers than the experts thought there would be, and the actions taken to limit the spread have worked far better than they were expected to
low harness
Do not forget this!
orchid rose
It's also far more deadly than the early estimates were
rain swift
@orchid rose someone who sees reason.
they exposed 400 people that had it to people who didn't and none of them caught it
oh and this years flu season was one of the worse in years
clear ferry
Don't worry, the lockdown will be the least of your problems soon @shy comet 
forest edge
in 6-8 months people yo got it and thought they got over it start falling ovver
panic starts all over again
rain swift
so how do you explain that, all of the masks and things should have made the flu season BETTER
@forest edge the panic is entirely artificial thanks to the media and your elected officials.
I haven't worn a mask for 1 second, and go anywhere I want.
forest edge
norway begins evacuation by building a single rowboat
shy comet
lol
last dirge
it's a gubmint conspiracy MAAAAAAAAAN
scenic radish
I THREW IT ON THE GROUND
orchid rose
I'm just going to distance my views from griffon here, but want to say that it seems to be complicated and there are lots of things we don't know yet. Fact is however that in the Nordic countries, except for Sweden who took an alternative route, it seems we can contain the virus at this point - and that was never the plan
clear ferry
We are pretty much beck to normal
orchid rose
other than mass gatherings being banned, it's pretty much the same here
light trout
We are? what changed? did not notice much here ๐คทโโ๏ธ
orchid rose
no mass gatherings at your house then? ๐ค
light trout
If there is, I'm not there
orchid rose
actually I don't think I want to know ๐
scenic radish
And Madden '08
orchid rose
wrong kind of โฝ
cunning epoch
Hi, does anyone live in Switzerland . Iโm moving there and wondering the apartment Iโm moving into has external metal shutters, does anybody know if these are generally zigbee?
I think these metal external blinds are used in other European countries aswell
gentle ferry
I wanna buy some surveillance cams, so I would like to know how HASS can integrate with CAMS. Note that I haven't used HASS yet, I'm in the planning phase on which hardware to get. I will be also using a zigbee/zwave stick on it. Are there certain cams that are compatible? or does that actually depend on the CCTV solution? so far the plan is to use shinobi (http://shinobi.video) unless I get a better recommendation. I appreciate any tips, thanks.
gentle ferry
@clear ferry yes I understand that, The cams will def support onvif/rtsp or else they can't be used on shinobi or other similar nvr. My question is can hass integrate with cams in the first place? e.g. motion detected -> take a x sec video or something similar. Sorry but I have no experience in hass at all
well, not integrate with cams directly, but the nvr
clever mortar
You may want to ask in #cameras-archived
fathom sparrow
You know what's really annoying? When I'm trying to figure something out and I google an answer and it links to my post that I wrote 2 years ago that doesn't have what I'm looking for.
clever mortar
Still, a step removed from I solved it being the only other post
thick bluff
having an issue getting a couple email sensors setup when breaking the config file apart. I have homeassistant:
packages: !include_dir_named integrations
in my configuration.yaml file and the one works and the other doesn't.
clever mortar
.topic @thick bluff
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
Sounds like you want to ask in #integrations-archived
clever mortar
Good time to read all the channel topics then ๐
forest edge
i hate discord's "topic" location choice
you could use Discord for years and nevver notice it lol
last plaza
What topic? Where?
forest edge
exactly.. lol
last plaza
lol
clear ferry
forest edge
spit it out @severe patio . we know you been typing something for the past 20 mins
severe patio
@cunning epoch I'm from Switzerland, those metal shutters are usually manual (like a long stick you have to rotate a "few" times). Newer buildings might have motorized shutters though, but mostly "dumb" ones - I bought shelly 2.5 for them, as I couldn't find a zigbee shutter relay. Some windows are from velux (io homecontrol), which could be integrated with a special box, but I'm only renting and don't want to invest in something I might not be able to use in a different flat.
@forest edge hehe shit I always forget that everybody sees this
forest edge
@clear ferry are you saying you like mud wrestling or arguing with engineers?
my days of trolling closed minded angry city dwellers on reddit has finally came to an end ๐ข
clear ferry
forest edge
scenic radish
|| @forest edge เผผ ใค โ_โ เผฝใค ||
forest edge
|| @scenic radish โญโฉโฎ(ฮ_ฮ)โญโฉโฎ||
scenic radish
Both the #ios_and_mac-archived and #android-archived companion apps expose battery level sensors to home assistant @calm crow
calm crow
O0h OK thanks
So in theory I could buy WiFi adapter..
When ipad battery is 100.. turn off power?
scenic radish
Sure. #automations-archived for questions like that
calm crow
Thanks