#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 523

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 8:54 AM

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So you can't use the EU warehouse

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No, you are in eu

hearty depot May 28, 2020, 8:55 AM

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Well Austria GWchadMEGATHINK
Its rather that I dont oder stuff what is in the EU already

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Well. I think I could orderd that one from some EU warehouse

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orchid rose May 28, 2020, 9:01 AM

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I tried the ESPhome one atx, but never got it to work for some reason. I have a MAX6675 but I'm not getting any numbers from the probe that I have. Instead of trying to figure out what the problem was, I just gave up.

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 9:08 AM

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@orchid rose going to use a $10 Bluetooth one and connect that to esphome

orchid rose May 28, 2020, 9:09 AM

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Which one? I was looking at a few options but not sure if anyone has reverse engineered the chinese bt ones

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 9:10 AM

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https://www.rusta.com/no/steketermometer-p623514500101.aspx

Steketermometer Svart

Koble steketermometeret til mobiltelefonen med bluetooth (stedstjenester må være aktivert), og styr tilberedningen fra appen! Bruk forhåndsinnstilte eller egne temperaturer, fra -25 til +300°C.

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Whatever rebrand this is

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https://jalopnik.com/theres-life-sized-fake-town-complete-with-real-cars-in-1843710045

Jalopnik

There's Life-Sized Fake Town Complete With Real Cars In This Mansio...

If you are like me, you worry about your cars sitting in the garage at night, confused and alone in the dark. They long to feel pavement beneath their tires. But if you’re rich enough to be losing sleep over your cars in storage facing long-term road withdrawal, you are probab...

orchid rose May 28, 2020, 9:13 AM

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which esphome integration is it supported by?

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 9:14 AM

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No idea, I was hoping that one of the Xiaomi ones might be able to read it

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If not I might try openmqttgateway

orchid rose May 28, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Okay

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 9:16 AM

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An actual murder in Norway it seems, that been a while since last

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Or, every 4h if you are in America GWaobloChildPepeCry

hearty depot May 28, 2020, 9:19 AM

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I guess thats only a DS18B20 with a metal stick.
idk witch cind of probe that is but I would go for something like
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32967524546.html

orchid rose May 28, 2020, 9:32 AM

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I have something that looks almost exactly like that, but I'm not sure if it's a "k-type" or something else. I'm not getting any readings out of it on the max6675 so I'm assuming it isn't

unkempt geyser May 28, 2020, 9:41 AM

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I tried max6675 and never got any readings from it. I did with the max31855. I have added a few probes around the grill to provide me with ambient temperature using ESPHome. I added a Rotisserie which is why I went down the Meater route. Was disappointed I couldn't integrate it so built something and then reached out to their founder to say they're missing a trick or two. More info here > https://github.com/jcallaghan/home-assistant-config/issues/21

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GitHub

IoT connected BBQ/smoker · Issue #21 · jcallaghan/home-assistant-co...

Objective: Add a number of sensors to my BBQ and the smoker I don't yet own. Bluetooth temperature probes are not cheap and relatively useless still as all you will get is a notification on...

orchid rose May 28, 2020, 9:44 AM

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I get a value off the max6675 if I short the input (gives ~30C) but if I connect my probe I just get errors probably due to the value being out of range. What was your issue with the 6675?

unkempt geyser May 28, 2020, 9:47 AM

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I just never got a reading back at all. Same probe worked fine with the max31855.

orchid rose May 28, 2020, 9:48 AM

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weird... Now I don't know if I should get another thermocouple or the max31855 then 😄

hushed basalt May 28, 2020, 10:46 AM

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Daughter has learnt to put laundry in the basket

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She's even so efficient she's saving us having to wear it first and is just getting it straight from the wardrobe

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 11:03 AM

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Aye, she started doing that 6 months ago, but has since stopped haha

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But she puts her pyjamas back in bed after I've put on her kindergarten clothes

brisk glen May 28, 2020, 11:25 AM

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Raspberry Pi 4B with 8GB RAM.

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8 GB...

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 12:01 PM

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Kids toys

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 12:03 PM

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I just bought a laptop with 8GB of RAM

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 12:04 PM

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Kids toys

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 12:05 PM

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yeah toys are fun

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but at least its expandable

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i didnt know laptops today were serviceable

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 12:15 PM

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What, I have only seen a handfew the last 20 years that weren't

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 12:16 PM

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The trick is knowing that 😉

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 12:17 PM

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my current one that I am selling isnt

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i thought there was a move to things you couldnt open

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 12:18 PM

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I'll admit I've only touched Dell/HP/Lenovo in the last ... while. All those publish maintenance manuals.

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 12:18 PM

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yeah this is a Dell XPS

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the one i bought that is

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so im happy with that

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 12:49 PM

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You know... One thing, as a DIYer, that I do not have that most seem to have, is a jigsaw. I don't even have a jigsaw.

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 12:50 PM

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I got a super cheap jigsaw from aldi

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its passable

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they are selling a bandsaw next week that I want

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 12:50 PM

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heh

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 12:50 PM

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and a lathe but I am not sure I'd ever use a lathe

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 12:50 PM

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I'm looking at the Ryobi Jigsaw.

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 12:50 PM

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never have before

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 12:51 PM

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But this just randomly came to my attention because a guy on this youtube video making a curtain control system with a stepping motor, is making all his parts out of wood, including the literal torque gears!

last dirge May 28, 2020, 12:52 PM

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http://woodgears.ca

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 12:53 PM

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those are much more useful than the figurative torque gears

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 12:53 PM

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heh

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbQr3A-YAr0

YouTube

Dial

Automatic electric roller blinds on Arduino DIY

Homemade automatic transmission with gear for roller blinds on the Arduino. Automatic blinds with photocell hands. Homemade electric for curtains. Automatic control for the blind. How to make curtains lowered and raised themselves?

The idea for this project originated at me 2...

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brazen fable May 28, 2020, 12:54 PM

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You can get a decent jigsaw on amazon for pretty cheap tbh

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I bought one to modify my desk lmao

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Well, yeah, I mean I can get a Jigsaw from HomeDepot for like $50.

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Looks interesting

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if i were to do it id print in nylon

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 12:55 PM

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I'm making a desktop out of some old doors lmao

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Yeah, this guy, russian I believe, is pretty good.

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 12:55 PM

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but also I dont mind pulling the curtains

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Heh, I'm trying to come up with a curtain system that works both manual, and automated.

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 12:56 PM

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I'm surprised there isn't a more viable commercial system for it already

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 12:56 PM

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Viable being the critical point there.

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 12:56 PM

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Right

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 12:56 PM

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I don't find paying $500+ MINIMUM just to get started with a single curtain.

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 12:56 PM

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I really dont have a problem doing lots of things manually

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I might be in the wrong place

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Haha

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I want to be able to automate everything

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Including opening and shutting windows and possibly doors

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 12:57 PM

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for me its just things that I might forget to do or otherwise am unable to do

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like irrigation, humidity control for the former

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and turning the AC on before I wake for the latter

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stuff like that

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 12:58 PM

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I want to be able to say "Computer Air out the house" and have all my windows open and fans turn on

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Star Trek dreams

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 12:59 PM

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oh yeah that would be nice

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 12:59 PM

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I grew up being fascinated by technology namely because i was/am a huge trek nerd

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 12:59 PM

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I sort of considered getting winders for my windows since they are awning windows but I dont really care

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window sensors would be nice though

bitter gazelle May 28, 2020, 12:59 PM

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8gig rpi4 and 64bit raspbian

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 12:59 PM

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alerts when the heating is on and a window is open

bitter gazelle May 28, 2020, 1:00 PM

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I have no idea what I'd do with one

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 1:00 PM

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I have been making my way through trek, never watched it as a kid

last dirge May 28, 2020, 1:00 PM

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awning windows?

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you mean casement windows?

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:00 PM

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And in cold Chicago winters you have no idea how great it is to be able to start your car with a simple voice command

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 1:01 PM

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no Brian I mean awning windows

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ah we dont get so cold here in Aus

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:01 PM

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the winter before last we were at like -30f

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-34c

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 1:01 PM

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oof

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:01 PM

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last winter wasn't so bad though

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 1:02 PM

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we get to like -5C at worst really, overnnight

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:02 PM

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It's the first time i actually had to wear a jacket in literal years

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I don't wear one at all until it gets below 0

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Of course I keep one in the car with me

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 1:03 PM

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I'd prefer if temperatures stayed over 20c

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:03 PM

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wat

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20-21c is perfect temp

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 1:04 PM

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so you more or less agree lol

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Anything higher than 22 and the A/C goes on.

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 1:04 PM

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though I find perfect more like 26-33, depending on how much activity is required of me

late gate May 28, 2020, 1:05 PM

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darn insomnia. could not sleep untill 9am, luckily no work today, and at 9.15 the neighbour starting cutting down trees with a chainsaw

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grumpy

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:05 PM

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Guess where my computer equipment is.

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I'm going to have to install a new cooling solution just for that room. It gets toasty

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 1:06 PM

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looks nice in there rn

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:06 PM

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Although I'm a little annoyed

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for some reason HA isn't picking up, or it just doesn't work, on these sensors, the humidity readouts

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It's just coming back as 0

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😔

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 1:07 PM

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damn

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cowboypensive

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:07 PM

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I've tried excluding/including several times

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no dice

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whatever they were cheap i guess

late gate May 28, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Fahrenheit 🤮

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:09 PM

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You mean freedom units

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TBH body comfort makes more sense in F.

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It's more granular

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5c is a huge swing while 5f not so much

orchid rose May 28, 2020, 1:10 PM

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There are decimals you know

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Yeah, and F can use those too

late gate May 28, 2020, 1:11 PM

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ahahahahhaha https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52810220

BBC News

Pulling apart a £339 anti-5G USB stick

An expert carries out a teardown of a device said to defend users against negative health effects.

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Ironically I understand both well

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Like thinking of CPU temp in F would be annoying

orchid rose May 28, 2020, 1:11 PM

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The problem is that 99% of the world only understands one of them and has no reason to learn the other

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Solar powered esp and greenhouse is getting there

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brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:12 PM

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I'm from the US. I don't care what the world thinks lmao.

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I'm about usability and such

ocean mirage May 28, 2020, 1:12 PM

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I think either would work really but once is easier to convert and everyone uses it

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like once you know one and work within it its the same

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Although it would be nice if we went full on metric with other measurements

late gate May 28, 2020, 1:19 PM

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"proprietary procedure that leads to relativistic time dilation and biological quantum entanglement at the DNA level" seriously how can someone fall for this?

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:20 PM

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What

late gate May 28, 2020, 1:20 PM

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the link above from bbc

hushed basalt May 28, 2020, 1:21 PM

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https://youtu.be/2AecAXinars

YouTube

DIY Perks

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Webcam...

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Love this guy

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Weird. My discord connectivity from my main Wan died

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But everything else is working fine.

low harness May 28, 2020, 1:25 PM

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He's always so happy.

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:27 PM

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anybody keep a large media library?

late gate May 28, 2020, 1:28 PM

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I keep around 20tb

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:28 PM

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nice

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That's about where I'm at

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what's your backup solution

late gate May 28, 2020, 1:29 PM

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I just backup important stuff to google drive automatically (docker, time machine etc)

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movies etc is just backup up by pairity drives

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using unraid btw

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:30 PM

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I have to do an entire reupload to google drive. Not looking forward to it. 20ish TB is going to take forever

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I use drivepool and cloud drive

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And comcast cancelled my gigabit pro installation due to covid.

late gate May 28, 2020, 1:30 PM

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I dont really see the point of backup up media files unless its something you made yourself

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:30 PM

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I don't want to hunt them all down again.

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and I've got a lot of stuff that was difficult to find

late gate May 28, 2020, 1:31 PM

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with sonarr and radarr thats done in a second though

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Plus I'm a quality snob

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I hand edit most of my media files to rip out unwanted tracks etc

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and recontainer them

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and google drive gives me unlimited storage so why not

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lmao

late gate May 28, 2020, 1:32 PM

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im not that strict on stuff anymore

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 1:33 PM

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heh, that eye-contact camera idea is pretty impressive actually.

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:33 PM

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I don't mind because once i have it, i have it forever

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 1:34 PM

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Ahhh now then, my return to Amazon finally got delivered, now hopefully they get my refund to me now.

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Course, it's funny. UPS is saying it delivered on Thursday, May 28th, at 11:00 PM.

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But.. It's not even 10:00 AM, yet. LOL

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Where did it return to

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Amazon returns, Lexington, KY.

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:37 PM

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odd

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Yeah, totally blame UPS for stupid reporting. 🙂

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My GoControl Z-Stick, they shipped it out of Miami this Monday, but USPS only shows "label created", so I contacted the seller, and they said, they will look into it, because they shipped it....

amber bramble May 28, 2020, 1:45 PM

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I dropped off an amazon returnt o ups on april 26th and it has never been scanned again

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 1:46 PM

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Heh

amber bramble May 28, 2020, 1:46 PM

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no clue what happened to it

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i gave amazon the tracking number and they went ahead and gave me a refund

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 1:46 PM

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I dropped mine off May 23rd, and didn't get scanned again until May 26th, because of memorial day.

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The GoControl Z-Stick, however, I contacted the seller, because THEY dropped it off, apparently, Memorial day itself, and hasn't been updated since, so they now know of the issue,.

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Now, funny thing about Amazon right now is, if you click on "Account", you get a 404 page of a dog.

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:48 PM

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negative

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 1:48 PM

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No? yours is working?

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 1:48 PM

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yeh

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Hmmmmmm

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Oh, amazon customer support online chat.... also a dog.

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hmmmmm

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And of course, amazon support phone doesn't work.

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Wow..

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There's literally no way to get support for a major account issue.

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Seems to only be a problem in Firefox, though...

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What browser are you using, Soclias?

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 2:06 PM

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chrome

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Do you ever use Firefox? 🙂

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heh.

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My RPi4 is still running monitor.sh without a single issue.

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Seems I might have to see if the same can hold true with a RPi 3 B+, which I believe it should, then replace my P0W's with RPI3B+'s

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 2:16 PM

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not really

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Aha! Tinkerer!

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 2:17 PM

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I had issues with the Pi Zero running monitor, but the Pi 3 has been fine

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The Orange Pi Zero LTS has had no issues either

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:17 PM

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yeah.

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The P0W's have been horribly unreliable.

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OPIZ is good too, eh?

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 2:18 PM

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It's been rock solid

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Makes a fine RPi Zero replacement

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(or even upgrade 😛 )

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Hmmmm.. Not for $52+

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heh

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 2:19 PM

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I paid a lot less than that from Ali 😉

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:19 PM

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heh

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Yea. Then it takes a month and comes with corona. 🙂

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 2:19 PM

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https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000069931321.html is what I bought

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:19 PM

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ducks.

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Actually, it was the 512 MB version 🤷

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Wow, they make those with 256MB?

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I was about to say, dayum!

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I can get a RPi3B+ for ~$52,

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Doesn't come with that nice antenna though.

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 2:20 PM

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I don't use it - ditched it and went wired 😄

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:21 PM

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haha

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Yeah, considering where I put my scanners, the same would happen.

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They're both right where the can be networked right in.

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 2:21 PM

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I have one Pi on WiFi, because it sits in the garage. The rest are wired

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:22 PM

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$12.38 though for the OPIZ LTS Set4, 512

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 2:22 PM

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what do you use the pis for

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Bluetooth device_tracker scanning.

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 2:23 PM

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monitor (Bluetooth tracking), Docker test environment, HA test environment, backup media server (Plex/Squeezebox), VPN server, backup server...

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And other bits and pieces

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:23 PM

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heh

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 2:24 PM

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That'

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That's what VMs are for

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lol

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Eh

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Hmmmm. I'm going to order a couple of these OPIZ LTS's. 😉

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 2:24 PM

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aside from bluetooth tracking anyway

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:24 PM

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ETA delivery, july 1st. 1 freaking month. LOL

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 2:24 PM

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The backup server, nah, that's as limited as it gets deliberately

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The VPN server, doesn't need more than a Pi

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 2:24 PM

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depends on your bandwidth

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Not enough to matter 😉

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 2:25 PM

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ahha

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Besides, when VPNing home, I don't really need masses of bandwidth

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 2:25 PM

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I've got wiregaurd on a VM and a backup VPN on my UDM Pro

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Pi3 runs Wireguard fine 🙂

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Mine is faster.

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😄

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the more mbit i can soak out the better

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Especially since my phone is always on VPN when i leave

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And eventually when shit goes post covid I'll finally have my 3gbps connection installed

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Ahhhhhh, The OPIZ LTS is Quad Core.

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That's part of the reason it's so much better.

sinful oak May 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

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I just use the VPN on my Ubiquity USG. Why bother with configuring something else that can break? 😄

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

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speed

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Wireguard is obscenely fast. It's the only reason I run it extra

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Oh sheash... Estimated Delivery not 7/1, but 7/21

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 2:36 PM

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if they bake it into my udm pro then i'll probably retire the wireguard vm

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Hmmm, and no power adapter to go with it, at that price hmmm

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Okay, whatever. We'll try. 🙂

proven spruce May 28, 2020, 2:48 PM

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would be cool if we had a bot assign roles according to your install method

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Tinkerer, though wouldn't the antenna also work for the bluetooth?

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heh

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 2:57 PM

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It should, but the on board Bluetooth isn't supported by armbian

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Oh?

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Well, that's,... Annoying.

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Eh, I had a few spare Bluetooth adapters kicking around

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They're cheap, and easy to get a hold of

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Yeah, I have a couple in my P0W's now, so I have that covered.

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Long range ones, no less. 🙂

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Either way, I ordered a few from AliE. It'll take a while, but i'm in no extreme rush anyway. 🙂

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Besides, I'm still getting an RPI3B+, because I have an empty case, and no Pi.

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That got moved into a NESPi case. 😄

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And now, my account page works at Amazon.com again. After cutting through customer support saying. "Look, I'm not a newbie, I'm a Senior Systems Engineer, reporting a major issue."

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Well, it partially works anyway.

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Still broken on Linux/Firefox.

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Did you only try Armbian, Tinkerer?

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 3:05 PM

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On the Orange Pi, yeah

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 3:07 PM

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You can GET the Bluetooth device working, if you do it manually.

green verge May 28, 2020, 3:21 PM

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That 8GB Pi4 doe, lmao

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 3:21 PM

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seems like a lot of memory for so little processing power

shy comet May 28, 2020, 3:23 PM

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8gb pi4?

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lol

green verge May 28, 2020, 3:24 PM

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If you're running a lot of low power apps, seems to be pretty good, but yeah, pretty overkill for almost everything

shy comet May 28, 2020, 3:24 PM

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did hte price of the 4gb drop yet lol

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Kids toys peepoSmash

green verge May 28, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Imagine not running on a Xeon proxmox HA cluster

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handgesture

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Imagine running proxmox as an adult

fluid zephyr May 28, 2020, 3:26 PM

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you mean not everybody runs HA with a Xeon ?

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 3:26 PM

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One Xeon?

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Pathetic

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haha

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 3:27 PM

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my HA runs on an 8700k

fluid zephyr May 28, 2020, 3:27 PM

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I only have one, yes 😦 -- and only 32GB of ram 😦 😦

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Consumer

fluid zephyr May 28, 2020, 3:28 PM

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I like to pretend I'm big time, 🤣

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 3:28 PM

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It's recycled gaming equipment KayleGasm

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Bet it's got more power than yours Megu

fathom sparrow May 28, 2020, 3:31 PM

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@zealous rune they are extending most passes so you should be fine

deft pewter May 28, 2020, 3:32 PM

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@fathom sparrow re putting it on a pedestal. I run (when I'm not injured) but I'm aware of my limitations 😄 I've done a few half marathons. Ultras are a long way off for me.

fathom sparrow May 28, 2020, 3:32 PM

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a sprint is 3 miles

scenic radish May 28, 2020, 3:32 PM

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#templates-archived bois 😘

fathom sparrow May 28, 2020, 3:32 PM

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@scenic radish you're fired

scenic radish May 28, 2020, 3:32 PM

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trolled

zealous rune May 28, 2020, 3:32 PM

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@deft pewter You can easily complete one. Just do it for fun, bring some friends and complete it together.

deft pewter May 28, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Only 3 miles? I thought they only ran ultras wail

zealous rune May 28, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Tediore had to put down his Mointain Dew and chips to yell at us!

fathom sparrow May 28, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Yeah theres 4 levels: Sprint = 5k, Super = 10k, Beast = half marathon, Ultra = Ultra (30+ miles)

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Only 64GB memory support, useless haha

fathom sparrow May 28, 2020, 3:33 PM

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If you do a sprint + super + beast in a year you get a 'trifecta'

deft pewter May 28, 2020, 3:34 PM

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I'll have to have a proper look. Super or best sound manageable, as long as I get some hill training in.

fathom sparrow May 28, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Beast will take min 3 hours, super 1.5 hours. That's if you're competative

deft pewter May 28, 2020, 3:35 PM

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I'm not 🤣

zealous rune May 28, 2020, 3:35 PM

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The Beast may be a half marathon is distance but it is on par with a marathon for time and exertion

fathom sparrow May 28, 2020, 3:35 PM

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what's your half pace?

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The hardest part is the climbs. Downhill you can hit ~7 min pace, uphill its 15 - 18 min pace

zealous rune May 28, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Especially if they make you lug a 50lb sandbag to the top of a mountain along the way

fathom sparrow May 28, 2020, 3:36 PM

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ugh yeah

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man, i miss the races

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I was planning on 19 this year too

zealous rune May 28, 2020, 3:37 PM

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I was planning on 19 this year too

deft pewter May 28, 2020, 3:37 PM

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My pace? On a flat, only about 9 min/mi 😄

zealous rune May 28, 2020, 3:37 PM

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😮

fathom sparrow May 28, 2020, 3:37 PM

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North east america all the races are 4 to 5 hours away. Easy to make it to that many

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just double up days too, I hit 6 trifects in 18' and 17'

zealous rune May 28, 2020, 3:38 PM

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I was happy to get a Trifecta done in one year. I've got a wife/kids. While I've roped the kids into a few Spartan Kids events there's no way I'm getting away for 19 weekends! 😄

fathom sparrow May 28, 2020, 3:38 PM

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oh no, not 19 weekends. 8 to 10 at most

zealous rune May 28, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Used to live in the NE but I was a lazy slob back then. Took moving to Germany to get my ass in shape/

fathom sparrow May 28, 2020, 3:39 PM

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it ends up being once a month

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i'd go crazy if I just sat here and did HA all day. I need an outlet for the arugments

zealous rune May 28, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Well, once the craziness is over try to make it over to the Munich or Oberndorf event (Austria). I'll buy you a beer.

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Jokes on you. I have a car and it can do a mile in 30 seconds.

deft pewter May 28, 2020, 3:41 PM

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😐

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 3:42 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-steve-carell-my-mind-is-going-amile-oh-god-gif-15763668

Tenor

zealous rune May 28, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Thanks for the help, got kids to feed and my wife needs to yell at me about something I forgot/screwed up 😉 LAter.

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 3:55 PM

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I should get my fat ass in shape

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 3:57 PM

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My fat ass was getting in shape, then lockdown happened. Now my ass is getting fatter again 🤷

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 3:58 PM

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I had started swimming

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But ney more

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They might open them in August

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:14 PM

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dunno why google had to go and rebrand their google homo minis but the clearance sales on these are lit af

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just picked up a combo nest hub with home mini for 90 bucks

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 4:14 PM

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If they were branded as google homo then I can see the issue

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:14 PM

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you didn't see SHIT

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actually i'm not even going to correct that

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:17 PM

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@unreal orbit I genuinely laughed out loud

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:20 PM

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yaaay a barrel plug connector

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ugh

zealous rune May 28, 2020, 4:21 PM

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I got one last year as Google was literally giving away Minis for free. Thought they'd get people interested in home automation or something... wait, dammit Google!

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:22 PM

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they're frequently on sale, 2 for 1, as well

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Really

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We never get neither free or 2for1 here

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:23 PM

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i've got one for free with 20 bucks worth of razor blades lmao

zealous rune May 28, 2020, 4:24 PM

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I think I had recently signed up for YouTube premium and they emailed me and offered me one out of the blue.

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Yeah I'm very much done with that #330990055533576204 conversation. Not even worth the effort

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:25 PM

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peepoSmash

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:26 PM

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does aliexpress have extenders for these barrel cables

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 4:26 PM

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You could try searching 😉

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:26 PM

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oh no

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my HDD from my first gaming computer finally got a SMART warning

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Little solider might be put to rest soon. It's been a beast

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:27 PM

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I was wondering if I should try opening up a Google home mini and connect external speakers directly

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Do they not have a speaker output?

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:28 PM

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I don't think the google home mini's do

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:28 PM

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@brazen fable I still have one of my spinning rust drives from my 2001 webserver brought it back to check for some files I couldn't find last year

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Lame

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Spun up like a champion

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Yeah but i've been running this drive 24/7 for like 10 years

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lol

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:28 PM

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oldest drive I have in operation is from 2008 I think

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no wait, 2006

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:29 PM

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last 3 years or so it's more or less a cache/dumping drive

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:29 PM

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WD green, 5400K, 640GB

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:29 PM

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My drives usually last 10 years, before I replace them, but then I just store them

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Pfft. They're great target practice

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Are you going to continue to replace with HDD or switch to SSD for any?

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:29 PM

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honestly the only reason I still have it is because I just keep migrating it to newer pc's

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:29 PM

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I run HDDs and SSDs

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:30 PM

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oh my main drive is a 1TB 970 evo

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 4:30 PM

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SSDs are getting so cheap now

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I have like 10 HDDs and 10 SSDs

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Had a customer who had his first drive replacement on a 1994 server in 2012

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That was fun

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Trying to find the correct part

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:30 PM

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my gaming rig has 3 SSDs and no spinning drives

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server has 6 HDDs, 3SSDs

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and then there's another machine

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 4:30 PM

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mindblown

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:31 PM

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99% of all drives we sell are ssd for the last 5 years

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And a 16TB SSD is $85000 haha

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List price that is

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Usually stuff like that is discounted 95%

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:32 PM

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📎 drives.jpg

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:32 PM

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SSDs are probably going to be replaced rapidly with nvmeof and optane the next 2 years

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:33 PM

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📎 Server.jpg

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 4:34 PM

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A don't think I have 10TB collectively in my entire house

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:34 PM

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3 10TB drives, what a strange number

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Heh.

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:34 PM

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📎 drives2.jpg

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:34 PM

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this is probably the last desktop I'm making with hdd's though, it was hard to find a nice case that still had 3 3.5" caddies

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:34 PM

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I have about 60 TB in my house.

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:34 PM

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My main server is 4x10, 4x4, 4x2 plus 512/256ssd

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:35 PM

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now I have a fractal design mesh s2 and like a third of the case is just empty

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:35 PM

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I just built the server in an Obsidian 750D

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It's a fantastic case and was stupid easy to build in

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 4:36 PM

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My fractal node 202 is full to bursting

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Yes!!! My Loctite Fun-Tak (Blue-Tak equivalent), arrived. 😄

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:37 PM

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huh, the speaker isn't too bad on this thing

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:37 PM

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I know, such a wierd thing to be excited about... But i've been waiting a week for this, to use for testing angle mounting a motion sensor. LOL

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:38 PM

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The speaker in the new mini home is better than the old, replaced the wife's and she noticed a lot of difference

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Anyone know of a decent temp + humidity sensor that works well. Maybe even one you can plug in?

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Hah, I wish.. I looked.

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:38 PM

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I see the AOEN one but alot of people bitch

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:38 PM

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I'm happy enough with the xiaomi ones

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 4:38 PM

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If you want something done right, you gotta #diy-archived

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Aeotec, ewwwww

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:38 PM

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@clear ferry just turned on the nest hub

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don't have a google nest mini yet

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:39 PM

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I found the bass lacking in that @midnight adder but I have the first gen I think

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:39 PM

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I don't trust ANYTHING by Aeotec anymore.

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Imagine using smart speakers for listening

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Yamaha Music Cast + your own equipment

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It's the way to go

wet pilot May 28, 2020, 4:39 PM

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gen 1 mini was super meh. gen2 is slightly better than meh

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 4:39 PM

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meh++

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:40 PM

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my smart speakers just serve as a voice interface/alerts

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:40 PM

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I use one in the garage for background music while I work, it's ok

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:40 PM

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My garage is attached so putting a cheapish 2.1 system in there was easy

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:40 PM

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heh

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:40 PM

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@brazen fable I just use it for background noise, listening to the news

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:40 PM

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The Symfonisk is actually quite good, I have one in my office

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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aye

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Yeah, I could easily put a speaker setup in my garage.

midnight adder May 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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if I want to listen to music I'll just turn on spotify on my pc, I have nice edifier speakers

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Speaking of systems I need to upgrade my rig's system. It's still 2.1

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Meh, spotify.

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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FLAC library master race

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Now I see why you have so many drives

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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spotify is great for finding new tunes though

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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FLAC isn't that big. :p

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:42 PM

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yeah my entire FLAC library is less space than 2-3 4k movies

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hell the marvel 4k collection alone is massive LUL

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I had /walls/ of CDs, before I ripped them all into FLAC+ogg, then FLAC+m4a.

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I listen to so much strange progressive music that I have to download it to listen, but I use Spotify discover for a lot of stuff

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I listen to all kinds of stuff

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:42 PM

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A lot of my stuff is imported from Finland, Sweden, etc. 🙂

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:43 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRAG2NG5bkQ&list=PLm7wnjUQm_FAMNxPGqLKZnuu5PAMhHkb-&index=9 but this is the main kind of stuff i listen to

YouTube

Epitaph Records

Falling In Reverse - "Drugs"

"Drugs" by Falling In Reverse
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2UlGdQF
Listen on Apple Music: https://apple.co/2UmlDje

Lyrics

Kill yourself is what they said to me
I’m already dead Just differently
They say god is real, I disagree.
Cause if that were true, then we’d all ...

▶ Play video

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Plex amp is actually so good I'm probably retiring my Subsonic server

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:43 PM

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I tried Subsonic for a while.....

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And Madsonic, and Airsonic...

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 4:43 PM

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I liked Ronnie in Escape the Fate more

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Nobody ever made a decent client.

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Yeah my main music library isn't even all that big

📎 main.jpg

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Heh, nowhere near the size of mine. 🙂

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:44 PM

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I've got a ton of stuff i don't include in there

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 4:44 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20200528_184432_tv.plex.labs.dash.jpg

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Comedy, holiday stuff, specialty stuff etc

undone aspen May 28, 2020, 4:46 PM

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20,545 files, 613GB

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See. not even 1TB. 🙂

wet quail May 28, 2020, 5:18 PM

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hey you plex music people, any of you also have sonos speakers? i'm looking for testers

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 5:21 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20200528_192107.jpg

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wtf

scenic radish May 28, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Wtf dawg

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 5:32 PM

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I love that the import fees are higher than the product cost 😄

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Welcome to Norway

fathom sparrow May 28, 2020, 5:44 PM

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I thought you guys were all happy and attractive? WTF happened?

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 6:13 PM

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I'm just manic and morbidly obese

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Does that help?

scenic radish May 28, 2020, 6:18 PM

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@clever mortar @unreal orbit speaking of unconventional cooling methods... https://youtu.be/1cBCVouinNo

YouTube

Matthew Linder

Chocolate milk cooled computer!

▶ Play video

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 6:19 PM

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What a waste of chocolate milk...

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 6:19 PM

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That

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is going to smell horrible very quickly

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 6:19 PM

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And go "lumpy" very quickly too

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Or at least make chocolate cheese

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Mmmmm chocolate cheese

scenic radish May 28, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Brown cheese?

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Googling chocolate cheese came up with a recipe for cheddar cheese fudge

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I am both curious and disgusted

scenic radish May 28, 2020, 6:21 PM

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What the actual fuck

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Some of the other recipes are made with velveeta

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and I thought today was going to be a good day

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Brown cheese is delicious I'll tell you

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Apparently you can get it in the us @scenic radish

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Ski queen they label it as there

orchid rose May 28, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Why does brown cheese ring a bell in a bad way...

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Why have I eaten this stuff 🤢

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 6:48 PM

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It's nice

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On waffles

orchid rose May 28, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Doubt it

vast dove May 28, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Brown Cheese is nice.

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📎 norwegian-brunost-blocks.png

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Looks like someone used a wood planer on cheese

orchid rose May 28, 2020, 6:51 PM

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I can't remember where I know that stuff from but I can taste it in my mouth right now ..

vernal tendon May 28, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Scandinavian I think.

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Brunost

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunost

Brunost

Brunost ("brown cheese") is a common, Norwegian name for mysost ("whey cheese"; Danish: myseost; Swedish: mesost; Finnish: mesjuusto; Icelandic: mysuostur), a family of cheese-related foods made with whey, milk, and/or cream. The term is often used to just refer to the Gudbran...

orchid rose May 28, 2020, 6:56 PM

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It is. We Finns roleplay skandi at times, but I can't remember where I've eaten that awful stuff...

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 6:56 PM

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I'm building the wife a cute Japanese Zen garden by the stairs

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📎 IMG_20200528_205040.jpg

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 6:57 PM

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pics?

vernal tendon May 28, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Kitty litter heaven!

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Just need some big rocks

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Adding dirt on top of that and white pebbles, and a little fountain and a sandpit with a rake

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Planting some succulents too

orchid rose May 28, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Might need some more green

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 6:58 PM

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And a little path to a single chair

shy comet May 28, 2020, 6:58 PM

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yea it does look like a giant litter box lol

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 6:58 PM

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That seems like some big goals for a space that small

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I mean aren't all zen gardens essentially giant litter boxes?

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 7:00 PM

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And my fruit and berries are coming along nicely

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Nom https://imgur.com/gallery/8MVjRBM

Imgur

Nom

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The grass was greener The light was brighter When friends surrounded The nights of wonder

unkempt geyser May 28, 2020, 7:12 PM

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hey you plex music people, any of you also have sonos speakers? i'm looking for testers
@wet quail Hit me?

fluid zephyr May 28, 2020, 7:25 PM

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@carmine elbow -- These are the best "color" wifi bulbs I have found -- It's saturated, not some washed out tint trying to pass for color like a hue bulb -- oh, and of course you can use tuya-convert to flash tasmota or whatever
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SJRYNZ2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

shy comet May 28, 2020, 7:31 PM

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interesting

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smile.amazon.com works but www.amazon.com is down?

fluid zephyr May 28, 2020, 7:36 PM

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I didn't even realize that was a smile link... sorry about that. should I remove or change it ? (edit I changed to amazon)

shy comet May 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

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no its all good

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i had some random dns issue

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amazon wasnt laoding but ur link did at the time

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i was like wtf

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Oh that's interesting, I can sing the high notes of toto Africa if I transpose the song down just a bit lmao

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First time I've played the piano in.... 4 months? GWaobloChildPepeCry

fluid zephyr May 28, 2020, 7:44 PM

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That's cool play piano... for some reason though I'd figureing you be playing the song like this 😄
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q260bjSiyq0

YouTube

Paweł Zadrożniak

The Floppotron: Toto - Africa

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/floppotron PayPalMe: https://paypal.me/floppotron
Toto - Africa cover by computer hardware orchestra. Which song would you like to hear next?
Like it? Share it! https://www.facebook.com/floppotron/
More info on how it works: http://silen...

▶ Play video

silver skiff May 28, 2020, 7:47 PM

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we got 4 install channels now? wail

fluid zephyr May 28, 2020, 7:47 PM

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yep one for each install method

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 7:48 PM

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For each officially supported install method 😉

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 7:48 PM

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I play guitar, bass, piano, drums, in that order @fluid zephyr haha

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Also, floppy music rocks

silver skiff May 28, 2020, 7:49 PM

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i think just the 2 we had was fine, since 2 methods are supervised and 2 are not

fluid zephyr May 28, 2020, 7:49 PM

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I played trumpet in the school days... I'ts not strong point. Can't even hear if I'm in tune or not

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 7:50 PM

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I used to be pretty tone deaf, I've gotten slightly better after 28 years

fluid zephyr May 28, 2020, 7:52 PM

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I had to just gave up after 5 or 6 years

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 8:10 PM

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I am a man of ... Diverse talents

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I also was one of the best in embroidery at school

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Better than some girls GWaobloChildPepeCry

fathom sparrow May 28, 2020, 8:37 PM

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are you saying that girls are inherently better at something like that????

last dirge May 28, 2020, 8:38 PM

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he's saying he's got dainty hands

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I'm saying the boys made fun of me GWaobloChildPepeCry

low harness May 28, 2020, 8:53 PM

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s/d/k

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 8:53 PM

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a/s/l

fathom sparrow May 28, 2020, 8:53 PM

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totally what I thought

low harness May 28, 2020, 8:54 PM

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I should have seen that

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Damn tinkerer, I actually bought my first SD card in 6 years

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Gotta try that wd purple

clever mortar May 28, 2020, 9:02 PM

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They should be long life, but it's early days

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 9:05 PM

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I want to make my RPI permanent with zigbee2mqtt and I need storage I can trust and doesn't stick 10cm out of it

forest edge May 28, 2020, 9:08 PM

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@clear ferry then stop trying to make love to it and nothing 10cm long will stick out of it 😋

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Why does WD offer financing for hard drives THONK

📎 wdpurple.jpg

unreal orbit May 28, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Because it's an easy way for companies to prey on financially unstable people

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 9:15 PM

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There's no point in WD purple when you can get a WD Red the same size for $130 at best buy

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Hides from WD hitman team

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 9:25 PM

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I bought 4 WD external drives and shucked them

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Four reds inside

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 9:25 PM

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yep

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even the white labels are reds

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just look for the emaz

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they switched em to white labels because people were buying them and then reselling as reds

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lol

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all of my new drives are shucks

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Yap WD100EMAZ-00

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 9:26 PM

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I use a chisel and they're out in about 10 seconds

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i keep a single enclosure in tact in case of a DOA

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although i'm all set on storage for a while i think

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 9:28 PM

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I'm just waiting for freenas 12 to enable pool expansion

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Then I'll add 4 more 10tb drives

brazen fable May 28, 2020, 9:28 PM

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I just run drivepool

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I recommend it to everyone. It's fantastic software

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Propitary proxy filesystem, and windows, I'll pass ;-)

quartz ether May 28, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Why anyone buys just drives now is beyond me. The externals are insanely cheaper

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Which is odd from a business standpoint surely costs more for all the retail packaging, power supply, plastic casing and pcb than it does to just sell the drive direct in an anti static bag.

wet pilot May 28, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Consumer price is subsidized by the business purchases at closer to retail

forest edge May 28, 2020, 9:48 PM

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most externals come with bulk cheap drives as well

brisk glen May 28, 2020, 9:48 PM

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ok cool, h264 cameras are the best thing ever

azure plinth May 28, 2020, 9:49 PM

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hi all! im having a bit of issue installing ESPHome to my esp8266

forest edge May 28, 2020, 9:49 PM

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that 240x320 resolution really clear huh @brisk glen ?

brisk glen May 28, 2020, 9:50 PM

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@forest edge I have 1080p cameras

clear ferry May 28, 2020, 9:51 PM

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@brisk glen now just wait until you get to the year of 2020 and find out about h265

brisk glen May 28, 2020, 9:51 PM

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the raspberry pi cpu usage is minimal

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with multiple camera streams

forest edge May 28, 2020, 9:56 PM

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@azure plinth are you using an FTDI?

azure plinth May 28, 2020, 9:57 PM

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im running home assistant in a Hyper-V VM and i have an esp8266 id like to install home assistant on. i cant seem to make the OTA update work, my mdns is not setup and i cant figure out a different way to flash. hyper-v has no usb passthrough to VMs

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i am not using FTDI, i have one of the boards that has it built in with just a micro usb

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i believe a NodeMCU

forest edge May 28, 2020, 9:58 PM

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i don't have a node

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you can ask in #diy-archived

azure plinth May 28, 2020, 9:59 PM

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thanks for directing me

forest edge May 28, 2020, 10:02 PM

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@brisk glen I was teasing. mjpeg has always sucked but ironically not everything supports h264/5

last plaza May 28, 2020, 10:31 PM

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I Don’t think you can install@home assistant on esp8266@azure plinth

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Why anyone buys just drives now is beyond me. The externals are insanely cheaper
@quartz ether most people buy NAS without hard drives and buy HDDs when they find deals.

last dirge May 28, 2020, 10:38 PM

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anybody got a good deal on some WD blacks?

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or reds

quartz ether May 28, 2020, 10:41 PM

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@last plaza was more you can shuck and external and get a drive the same size for half the price. To then put the blank drive into a NAS.

last plaza May 28, 2020, 10:42 PM

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@last dirge I’ve been looking for them. Not much lately.

last dirge May 28, 2020, 10:43 PM

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@quartz ether hooray for extra e-waste

quartz ether May 28, 2020, 10:45 PM

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WD Whites in the externals are the same as the WD Reds so just wait for a best buy special and then job done internal drives at fraction of the price. Also WD warranty is on the drive so it covers it even though it has been removed. (just test before shucking so you can take it straight back to best buy if its a dud)

🙂

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That is how you get a good deal @last dirge

last plaza May 28, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Yup

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@last dirge just got a new software upgrade v10.2 (2020.16.21) - I can now format usb from the dashboard.

last dirge May 28, 2020, 10:57 PM

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I got the push notification

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my wife decided to take the car somewhere though

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dog had to go donate blood

last plaza May 28, 2020, 11:09 PM

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I’ve formatted 1TB ssd for recordings, and it wasn’t storing it for some reason. I formatted to Fat32 and the volume label is tesla_cam. With the new update, I formatted from the dashboard, it works now!

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I really like the new dashcam viewer!

hushed basalt May 28, 2020, 11:17 PM

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WD is full of SMR

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Really have to watch out for that

quartz ether May 28, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Externals are fine. The Red drives they are selling are coming out with it. Stay over 8tb and you are fine

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 12:09 AM

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8TB and above they arent telco, afaik

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 12:28 AM

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With my current upload speed, my backup will complete in an estimated 43 days.

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😔

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 12:29 AM

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@brazen fable need to download more upload

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Yes

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FDX can't come soon enough.

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Downloaded some more RAM the other day, total game changer

forest edge May 29, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Downloaded some more RAM the other day, total game changer
@scenic radish oh? did you get eRAM or RAM+?

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 12:53 AM

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eRAM++

forest edge May 29, 2020, 12:54 AM

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oh the new stuff, i hear it's trash

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:00 AM

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I need to think about my storage strategy long term

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I have 4 x 4TB in my Nas which has been holding fine for quite some time

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But not sure what to do once I outgrow that

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Unraid, mergerfs and freenas all have their pros and cons

forest edge May 29, 2020, 1:01 AM

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delete some stuff

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:01 AM

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I do

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:01 AM

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upgrade to 10tb drives for starters

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they're remarkably cheap

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Not in ironwolfs etc

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 1:01 AM

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I do mergerfs. Looking to move off of it

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Plus 10 x 4 is a bit big for a SHR/RAID5 array

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ZFS is resource hungry as hell though.

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 1:02 AM

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I've been using unraid for a while now, its good for basic storage if you dont need high read or write speeds

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its simple to use

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Mergerfs/snapraid seems a icky

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For all it's flaws synologys approach to btrfs is quite nice

forest edge May 29, 2020, 1:04 AM

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thats why it's an arm and a leg

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I remember when synology came out and was actually cheap

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Their appliances aren't really that expensive they're just feature limited

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:05 AM

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I have 240GB on my laptop and 2x120GB on my server so I'm set

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:05 AM

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If you want to whitebox something you're looking at a lot

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Powersupply, motherboard, chassis, cpu, ram, os drive, adds up very quick

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 1:06 AM

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living that marie kondo life with your data tediore

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I got 42TB usable space on my server atm, should have me set for a while

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:07 AM

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The only media I have is music and even that's not a ton

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:07 AM

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📎 drives2.jpg

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Oh, sorry a "tonne"

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Even just baby photos is chewing up an not insignificant amount

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 1:07 AM

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heh nice

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I think my music library is aroung 600GB or so now

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Phone RAWS add up

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:07 AM

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send me your collection so i can make fun of you

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j/k

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 1:08 AM

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all my music is great and nobody elses is

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:08 AM

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But you got me beat. I have a bit more than this, but this is my main collection

📎 main.jpg

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 1:09 AM

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With that level of storage I am sure you got me beat on TV and Films

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I got like 16TB free atm anyway

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:09 AM

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That gif was yuge

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:09 AM

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I prune pretty regularly

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:09 AM

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My 🅱️

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 1:09 AM

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I leave things up for users mainly, and if I ever watch again

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but I have hit a point where my acquisition has slowed a lot

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:10 AM

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@ocean mirage my collection is just Muse

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 1:10 AM

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heh

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:10 AM

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📎 vm.jpg

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 1:10 AM

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oh huh maybe not

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:10 AM

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🙂

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 1:10 AM

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i am not at home to calculate it now

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I know I got ~460 films

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and 90 something series

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:11 AM

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You got me beat on series by a long shot, but I've got more movies

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and multiple copies of many movies in 4k and another in 1080p

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 1:11 AM

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oh yeah gotta avoid transcoding those 4k

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:11 AM

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pfft screw trancoding

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space is cheap

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 1:11 AM

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yep

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:12 AM

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every 4k film has a 1080p duplicate

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 1:12 AM

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some people are really weird about that

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:12 AM

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and also, non HDR appliance don't handle it well anyway

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 1:12 AM

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i tell em just buy more space its cheaper

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Transcoding sucks

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It's resource intensive, single use and looks like poo

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 1:12 AM

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yep

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:13 AM

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There's a reason netflix, YouTube etc store everything pre rendered

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:15 AM

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This is how people that transcode 4k browse the internet

📎 Ko5QcQl1.jpg

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:18 AM

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I don't see the problem

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:18 AM

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MonKayleS

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:20 AM

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GWspenderPaiSmug

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Really was the wild wild web of software back then

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https://media.tenor.com/images/b75beb57ee4ffa4cff225df9bcbc29c7/tenor.gif

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:21 AM

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The good old days

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:22 AM

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No https anywhere

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Unlimited browser script execution permissions or none at all

last plaza May 29, 2020, 1:23 AM

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I used to write Browser Helper Objects - we used to calm them BHOs. They are essentially toolbars that has access to the entire DOM.

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Worms that took down 100 000 MS servers in a day

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Using telnet remotely GWnekomakiAngeryBOYE

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Atx would have been installing his last 10gb backbones

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:24 AM

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I remember sending people sub7

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Speaking of which, why tf does my edgerouter have a telnet option lol

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:30 AM

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If your ssh and https fails i guess

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Ask atx

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:33 AM

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no ask jeeves

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:33 AM

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But it's probably because there's still crusty old network admins out there who use telnet over the network to manage everything

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Because thisishowwevealwaysdoneit

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I think security at a company is like a bell curve over size

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Small companies have shit security, medium sized companies have great security and behemoths that aren't tech companies use telnet and ssh port 22 with password login to access core gear

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You hear stuff on Reddit of banks emailing excel spreadsheets of customer details to each other and all sorts of stuff

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One of the biggest banks in Australia only allows you to use something like 6 or 8 characters max in your password

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:36 AM

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"password doesn't meet requirement...must be 8 characters or fewer?"

undone aspen May 29, 2020, 1:37 AM

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wut?!?

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Speaking of which, I should probably switch the SSH port lol

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Port... 42069.

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Yep.

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No wait it's worse than that

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Maximum six characters

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0-9 A-Z

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:39 AM

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...wut

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Case insensitive

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Lemme guess, MFA isn't an option either

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:41 AM

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I think you get an sms for external transfers

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But nothing to login or transfer to existing accounts

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Goodness

carmine elbow May 29, 2020, 1:45 AM

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This is how people that transcode 4k browse the internet
@brazen fable Dude, stop connecting to my desktop via VNC

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:45 AM

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LUL

carmine elbow May 29, 2020, 1:46 AM

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trying to search for google and you are causing me all sorts of problem.

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:46 AM

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I wonder how many of microsoft edges first searches are "chrome download"

carmine elbow May 29, 2020, 1:47 AM

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alexa says 99%

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 1:47 AM

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The edge team at MS must have it on their dashboard

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Must infuriate them

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:48 AM

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What makes it funnier is edge is now a chrome fork

sinful oak May 29, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Don't know what you guys are talking about re: transcoding. Processing power and bandwidth are both cheaper than storage still 😄

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Of course, people that have an issue with is normally are running their stuff on a pi or synology 😉

undone aspen May 29, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Hmmm

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I wonder if they ever fixed the ESP32 Bluetooth scanning issue.

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:56 AM

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It's really not. Storage is massively cheap.

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And transcoding makes everything look like dogshit anyway

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Transcodes will always be inferior

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It's just the nature of lossy media

sinful oak May 29, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Most software uses the same codecs and process to transcode as to create the 1080p file to begin with. So why do you say it looks like dogshit? Of course it's lossy

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 1:59 AM

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🍿

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Because when you re-encode you automatically lose quality

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a transcoded 4k stream to 1080p will never look as good as a stream ripped to 1080p

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And that will never change.

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And in other factors that don't translate well, e.g. audio channels and HDR and yeah, there it is

sinful oak May 29, 2020, 2:01 AM

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I still say not worth the 2nd copy of everything but hey to each their own lol

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Mostly because I use RAID for all my storage and just had to spend about a grand to upgrade all of my drives from 3 to 6 TB 😄

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 2:01 AM

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You could say that, but then you'd be wrong. a 1080p copy is hilariously small. We're talking 10-20gb

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 2:02 AM

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I thought the goal was more adapting the stream to the client's abilities than it was quality

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 2:02 AM

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It's both really

sinful oak May 29, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Well, yea. Because nobody normally has all of the exact same clients

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Not to mention you can get way more streams if you don't need to transcode, and you can use the machine for other purposes

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Guess there's pros and cons to Plex vs just having a shit ton of storage for different encodings

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 2:07 AM

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wdym

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This goes for any kind of media really

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 2:07 AM

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con, lots of duplicate files taking up extra storage

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Isn't that the debate here?

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Duplicate files, no transcoding vs one file with transcoding

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 2:08 AM

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a fast enough CPU with hardware transcoding (or GPU offload) can make the "cost" of transcoding pretty cheap

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 2:08 AM

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But it's not just that. It's also quality

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Transcoded media will always be janky

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Yeah I get that. Guess you have to consider how noticeable it'd be on a mobile device though

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 2:09 AM

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And there's no way around that, and probably never will be

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 2:09 AM

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i mean, anything other than the raw media is still transcoded

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just not JIT

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 2:09 AM

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No

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You're thinking of encoded

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which is what happens when you dump the raw into a container, which is ok

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 2:09 AM

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right, i'm counting that as raw

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 2:09 AM

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a transcode is when you go from a lossy format to another lossy format, losing tons of quality

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although you can transcode from raw technically

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but nobody really stores raw video

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 2:10 AM

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if your 1080p file is <~20G you're likely transcoded down

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 2:10 AM

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but you can do it with audio, e.g. flac/wav etc

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No that's compression

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 2:10 AM

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which is handled via transcoding

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 2:11 AM

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no that's encoding

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https://www.promax.com/blog/what-is-the-difference-between-transcoding-and-encoding

What is the difference between transcoding and encoding?

Chances are at some point you've had to deal with file formats. So are you encoding or transcoding? And what the heck is the difference?

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Similar but different

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 2:12 AM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/uNE1fngZuYhIQ

Giphy

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Kind of. The subtle difference is rather important

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Actually makes a lot of sense when you look at what the prefixes of each word mean

brazen fable May 29, 2020, 2:29 AM

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A another word etymology fan? 😄

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Very much so

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en- to put into (basically)
trans- across

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 3:09 AM

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@sinful oak the real problem with on the fly transcoding is it's real time

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It's not 2 pass etc

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When studios encode stuff they do it from original camera files and sfx renders etc

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Then they use finely tuned methods to encode for best quality

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And even rencoding from a BD mux to a mp4 in non real time is far superior

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But real time encoding on demand is fundamentally flawed because it can't do any of the tricks that an asynchronous transcode can

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It's real restaurant vs mcdonalds

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 4:01 AM

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McDonald's is gross

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Burger King/Hungry Jack's 4 lyfe

forest edge May 29, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Mickey D's!

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Haven't had KFC in over 6 months

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I do miss it thougg

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Popeyes FTW

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Them spicy tendies 👌

forest edge May 29, 2020, 4:25 AM

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KFC blows lol

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:26 AM

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nothing beats popeyes when they're fresh

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especially their biscuits

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Popeyes is my favorite chicken but really only because of their spicy tendies

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Their biscuits are good too, yeah

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:36 AM

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mine too but when they're not fresh they taste weird to me

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plasticy almost

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:37 AM

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I haven't had any of the fast food chains since.. sometime in early 2019 I think

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:37 AM

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i've avoided fast food since the whole covid-19 started

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minimum wage workers that can't afford to call in sick...just seems like a bad idea

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Unless you count a single donut at dunkin donuts while I was in the us because @scenic radish told me to get DD coffee angryboi

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Minimum wage, such a strange concept

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:38 AM

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American exceptionalism...we take pride in paying people the bare minimum

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i've been watching Hey Arnold...such a good show from my childhood

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:40 AM

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The good thing about Norway, that no American understands when I discuss it with them is that all salaries and taxes are public, anyone can see what someone else earns or pays

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The average hourly pay for McDonald's employees in Norway appear to be $16 plus extras per hour aRoo_ThrowMoney

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Had this discussion with a company mananger last time I was in the us, he thought it was insane that anyone could see what he or his manager made per year, and I just said if I know what my colleagues or my manager is making, I know what I'm worth and if I'm getting what I deserve, you have no idea if you are making 10% of all your colleagues peepoShrug

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:44 AM

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https://youtu.be/3Ok--WYeBdc

YouTube

Nick Animation

The Heartwarming Story of Mr. Hyunh's Daughter | Hey Arnold! | Nick...

In celebration of Asian Pacific American History Month, a classic moment from Hey Arnold! when Mr. Hyunh (voiced by Baoan Coleman) tells Arnold the story of his long lost daughter, Mai.

Visit Nick Animation around the web:
Official Website: http://nickanimation.com
Facebook: ...

▶ Play video

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Never seen that show

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Outside of memes

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haha

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Anti-disclosure of wages is definitely something that's made to benefit employers

scenic radish May 29, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Good show

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:46 AM

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But it's been contrived to be a "benefit" to employees

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:46 AM

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In Norway we have to search up the wages online, and we get logged while doing it, in Sweden you can go into any library and search for it

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:46 AM

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I CaN nEgOtiAtE fOr mY wOrtH iF nO oNe eLsE kNOws

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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/facebook-employees-may-face-pay-cut-if-they-move-to-cheaper-areas-to-work-from-home-2020-05-21

MarketWatch

Facebook employees may face pay cut if they move to cheaper areas t...

Mark Zuckerberg says he expects about half of Facebook Inc.’s employees to work from home five to 10 years from now, but there’s a catch for those expecting...

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Covid might be the perfect transition for me to move back north , we'll see how this year unfolds

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:49 AM

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I hate commuting

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I grew up in a town where 50% of the population lived in 5km radius of the centre

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:50 AM

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We had a company wide don you accept a 10% paycut during the last financial crisis, all us employees accepted it, because they had to to keep their jobs, no European employees accepted it, because, why would we

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:50 AM

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moving/getting citizenship some place where there is universal healtcare would be awesome

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hopefully i can do that before retirement

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:51 AM

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My "commute" was a 6 minute drive, traffic signals were only red for about 20 seconds and you always made it through first pass

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:51 AM

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I grew up in the biggest town in northern Norway, but it still was a tiny shithole haha

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Only fibre to the moose?

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:52 AM

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@odd mason if you don't do it the next 12 months you'll never probably GWaobloChildPepeCry

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@hushed basalt pff, we had FTTH since 2004

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:52 AM

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gotta get to retirement first

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i'm hoping in the next 10 years

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American salaries are still very hard to beat in other parts of the world

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:53 AM

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I still have 31 years to retirement atleast

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Maybe I can live in Norway and work remotely

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I don't like the idea of driving through snow

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Or driving in generap

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:53 AM

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that would be nice

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do u have an avenue to get residency in norway?

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:54 AM

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The average Norwegian monthly salary is about $5000

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 4:54 AM

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that's a good average

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:54 AM

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But the average loaf of bread is $500

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 4:54 AM

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more north more bad

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 4:54 AM

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i'm above that, my wife is below

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 4:54 AM

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why would you

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:54 AM

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by retirement i mean i don't HAVE TO work. i'll still work cause i love what i do. but i want to be financially independent by 45

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5k gross or net?

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 4:55 AM

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i was talking gross

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:55 AM

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I'm 50% above it, my wife is 100% below it haha

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:55 AM

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My wife has a masters degree so she could get in that way

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 4:55 AM

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same

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:55 AM

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both wife and i are above that right now

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 4:55 AM

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a Special Ed teacher to boot

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:55 AM

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She's an british citizen too not that that helps

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Who would want to live in the UK :D

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 4:55 AM

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haha

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even fewer people now

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:55 AM

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well not anymore lol

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 4:56 AM

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i have no skills

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:56 AM

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I mean, if you like rain @hushed basalt

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:56 AM

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pre-brexit it would work

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 4:56 AM

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but my partner is doing her masters so i could move there

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if only it wasnt cold and filled with norwegians

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:56 AM

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lol

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 4:56 AM

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cold is the thing keeping me from doing it

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same for canada

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:56 AM

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i don't mind cold

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:56 AM

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But, in the south we have nice weather

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:56 AM

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grew up in the midwest

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 4:56 AM

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'nice'

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where are you phnx?

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 4:56 AM

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KCLT

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:56 AM

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i'm in the south now...may-sept is brutal

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 4:57 AM

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okay now whats what

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 4:57 AM

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(airport code)

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:57 AM

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https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/norway/oslo/climate

Climate & Weather Averages in Oslo, Norway

Climate data and weather averages in Oslo

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:57 AM

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A Norwegian house in winter would be more comfortable than an Australian house in winter

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 4:57 AM

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true

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but outside

odd mason May 29, 2020, 4:57 AM

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who goes outside?

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 4:58 AM

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yeah its never warm out there atx

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:58 AM

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WFH, live indoors

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 4:58 AM

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i do WFH now i still go outside

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Just have a big house and big workshop :D

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 4:58 AM

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108F today here .... FML "100 days of summer"

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:58 AM

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I've been inside all week with the flu

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 4:58 AM

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oof

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 4:58 AM

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ouch

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Now I have bronchitis, yay,

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Those are low averages https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/24/how-much-americans-earn-at-every-age.html

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 4:59 AM

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low humidity tho .... and not so bad in 3ft of water with beer in hand

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 4:59 AM

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prolly warmer now 'cause global warming 😛

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oh, not temps

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🍺

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Australians can't build houses

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 4:59 AM

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haha

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 4:59 AM

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hes not wrong

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 4:59 AM

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no wood and you ship all your steel to china

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 4:59 AM

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until ecobee cloud goes down lol 😆

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 4:59 AM

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australians cant do a lot of things though

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Like I literally can't find someone to build a house worth a damn without it being a luxury build and cost 4x the average

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 5:00 AM

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yeah i know someone in the same boat

odd mason May 29, 2020, 5:00 AM

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108?!

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where

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Arizona

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:00 AM

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yup

odd mason May 29, 2020, 5:00 AM

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yikes

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:00 AM

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desert

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 5:00 AM

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You should try my hometown @hushed basalt
https://weatherspark.com/y/84211/Average-Weather-in-Tromsø-Norway-Year-Round

Average Weather in Tromsø, Norway, Year Round - Weather Spark

In Tromsø, the summers are short, cool, and mostly cloudy and the winters are long, freezing, windy, and overcast. Over the course of the year, the temperature typically varies from 21°F to 59°F and is rarely below 9°F or above 70°F.

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 5:00 AM

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PHNX in fact lol

odd mason May 29, 2020, 5:00 AM

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i don't even leave the house if it's over 80

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:00 AM

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.f2c 108

velvet horizonBOT May 29, 2020, 5:00 AM

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:thermometer:

Fahrenheit To Celsius

108 degrees fahrenheit = 42.22 degrees celsius!

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:00 AM

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haha

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went there for a job once

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though spent most of the time in glenndale

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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oh yeah thats about the peak temps we get in my city

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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hot AF but I grew up in it

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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I'd never miss our 46 degree summers

odd mason May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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i've been thinking about portugal

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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dry heat

odd mason May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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they have like 70 degress year around

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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not as bad as wet heat

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Especially with our dogboxes of homes

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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yeah 46 is hotter than ive seen

odd mason May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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and you can get a citizenship fairly easily

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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"dry heat" lol nailed it

clear ferry May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Portugal is so rainy

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Would be fine if working indoors and houses were performant

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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lived in utah for a bit

odd mason May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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i dont' mind rain tbh

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Ogden area

odd mason May 29, 2020, 5:02 AM

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as long as it's not too hot

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:02 AM

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rain isn't the issue, humidity is 😄

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 5:02 AM

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it's quite nice tho ... i usually am laughing at folks when we are hanging our feet in the ppol Thanksgiving while everyone is shoveling snow

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Northern VA hits like 100 in the summers with 95% humidity

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.f2c 100

velvet horizonBOT May 29, 2020, 5:02 AM

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:thermometer:

Fahrenheit To Celsius

100 degrees fahrenheit = 37.78 degrees celsius!

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 5:02 AM

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i dont mind high humidity until it gets over like 35

odd mason May 29, 2020, 5:02 AM

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yea it's horrible

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i was in charlottesville for a few years

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:02 AM

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yeah

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 5:02 AM

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the car is worst

odd mason May 29, 2020, 5:02 AM

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beautiful city but still hot as fuck

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 5:03 AM

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high humidity sucks if you got physical work to do tho

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:03 AM

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All of these problems can be solved if we just move underground

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Mole people unite

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:03 AM

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yup! and if you went to UVA, some of those dorms don't have AC

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 5:03 AM

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move to coober pedy

odd mason May 29, 2020, 5:03 AM

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physical work...what's that?

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 5:03 AM

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random HA question ... will 0.110 actually break my existing z-wave?

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Worse than the heat though. Is flies

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:03 AM

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no

odd mason May 29, 2020, 5:03 AM

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no it won't

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Bush flies are the worst curse against humanity

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 5:03 AM

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word

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i was a bit worried there

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:03 AM

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you have to explicitly add the new integration

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 5:03 AM

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quite a few devices

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109 is pretty good tho

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 5:04 AM

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i didnt even notice many flies this past summer, it was weird

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normally we get mobbed

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:04 AM

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I hate the heat but bush flies are a big nope from me

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Are you in a city?

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Yeah, Canberra

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 5:04 AM

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ok back to bitching about the heat then lol

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Did all the cattle get BBQd during the summer?

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 5:04 AM

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we are hitting new records on top of BS COVID stuff

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yay

odd mason May 29, 2020, 5:05 AM

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it's been nice here in atlanta area last few weeks

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 5:05 AM

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oh I guess they probably moved some of then

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Bush flies come from cattle poo

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:05 AM

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lol its been a shite 12 months for yall

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 5:05 AM

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at the closest I was about 14km from the fire I think

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Drought (continuous) into Fires into Covid

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Less cattle less flies

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 5:05 AM

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makes sense

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fuck it was annoying though the whole city choking on smoke

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 5:05 AM

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man that fire was something

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 5:05 AM

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had a few deaths from the smoke

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 5:05 AM

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feel bad for y'all there

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Another reason our houses suck

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No airtightness and controlled ventilation

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:06 AM

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| atlanta
@odd mason how's that governor going for ya 😛

ocean mirage May 29, 2020, 5:06 AM

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lol yeah everyones bathroom is open

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Literally killing us long term from VOC and particulate pollution

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 5:06 AM

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it's like third world lol

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gotta be an automation for that

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:07 AM

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It's called heat recovery ventilation

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:07 AM

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telco: how the fuck does us have better construction standards than yall?

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:07 AM

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We're corrupt and ignorant AF with a smaller market

wet pilot May 29, 2020, 5:07 AM

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are the kiwi's just as bad?

hushed basalt May 29, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Even eco builders don't know what a HRV is

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They're a lot better apparently

autumn tartan May 29, 2020, 5:07 AM

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i was just gonna ask that lol'