#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 512

green inlet May 14, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Is Biscoff cookies just an American Airlines thing or more an EU thing?

last dirge May 14, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Biscoff are delicious

green inlet May 14, 2020, 4:41 PM

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I know. Have you seen this:

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📎 image0.jpg

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 4:42 PM

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cookie butter???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

green inlet May 14, 2020, 4:42 PM

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DA BOMB

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especially on bananas 🍌

hearty depot May 14, 2020, 4:43 PM

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I want it!

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niiice

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https://www.amazon.de/Lotus-Biscoff-Brotaufstrich-400g-Spekulatius-Creme/dp/B004K8QKYS/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Biscoff&qid=1589474618&sr=8-3

green inlet May 14, 2020, 4:44 PM

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You eat reindeer, I am sticking with my cookie butter 🤣

last dirge May 14, 2020, 4:46 PM

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porque no los dos?

green inlet May 14, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Cause amazon doesn’t do prime for reindeer

last plaza May 14, 2020, 5:10 PM

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and there's no way to get that data out of the NVR
@last dirge do you have your cameras integrated with HA? Can you add it as a generic camera? If yes, you can take a snapshot and run it through TF.

last dirge May 14, 2020, 5:10 PM

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they pull snapshots

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but I have nothing to trigger it like was suggested

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all of the motion detection is done in hardware on the NVR

last plaza May 14, 2020, 5:11 PM

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All you need is an image at the time motion detected. If you have the image, you got nothing to do with NvR.

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 5:11 PM

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@modest smelt but... You never connect both PSUs to the same ups... Preferably one is to landpower

last plaza May 14, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Use a PiR sensor, and when that triggers, take a snapshot and run it via TF

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Look at mr rich here

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Having switches with multiple psu's

last dirge May 14, 2020, 5:12 PM

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@last plaza I have no way to run PIR to where I've got cameras

last plaza May 14, 2020, 5:12 PM

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all of the motion detection is done in hardware on the NVR
@last dirge that’s crappy way of detecting motion.

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Xiaomi?

last dirge May 14, 2020, 5:12 PM

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no

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Dahua

last plaza May 14, 2020, 5:12 PM

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😊

last dirge May 14, 2020, 5:12 PM

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probably grey-box stuff

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 5:12 PM

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If you call something"core network" you are probably rich enough to have multiple PSUs

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haha

last plaza May 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Anything would work. As long as you know there is motion!

last dirge May 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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I can set up the cameras to report motion, but they've got the same stupid limitations

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they can only send an email

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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@last dirge just disable the box stuff, pull feeds to motioneye and do detection there, with tf in tow

last plaza May 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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That’s not the best way to do it IMO

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they can only send an email
@last dirge how is life in 1950s?

last dirge May 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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pretty quaint

last plaza May 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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lmao

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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@clear ferry I run a not-so-legit side network on a tight budget

last dirge May 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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there's twice as many water fountains though

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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corporate hates this one thing

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 5:15 PM

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🤢

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Do it right or don't do it

last plaza May 14, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Do or die

last dirge May 14, 2020, 5:16 PM

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@last plaza got an 8 day notice that "hey, we're changing our LDAP servers so you have to update your apps"

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cool, thanks for that

last plaza May 14, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Impressive! You got 8 days in advance? 😂

last dirge May 14, 2020, 5:17 PM

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then 30 minutes later we got a 2.5 week notice "hey, we're changing our email servers, so you have to update your apps"

last plaza May 14, 2020, 5:17 PM

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If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization.

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I'm so glad I don't have to deal with stuff like that

last plaza May 14, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Good for you! But you got your own problems too!

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 5:18 PM

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If someone changes something and I have to change something, it's just overtime directly haha

last plaza May 14, 2020, 5:19 PM

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lol. Job security

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 5:19 PM

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I have no qualms to double charge idiots

last plaza May 14, 2020, 5:19 PM

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You’d think they will learn, but you’d be surprised!

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 5:20 PM

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As long as the project manager pays

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They don't

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 5:21 PM

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I went from dingy netgear 100mbits to ubiquiti switches in rolling out this network so don't you lecture me atx 😠

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Ubiquiti 🤢

hearty depot May 14, 2020, 5:22 PM

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ADB Italia 🤮

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 5:23 PM

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What would you have proposed as an alternative @clear ferry

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seriously

fading zodiac May 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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TPlink?

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Phoenix?

hearty depot May 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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😄 Cisco 😄 😄 😄

fading zodiac May 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Oh

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really?

hearty depot May 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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hell no

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Keeping in mind the budget

fading zodiac May 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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😂

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Oh

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Tplink

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i dunno

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I dont know nothing bout networking

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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And what central controller does tplink have

fading zodiac May 14, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Hey, don't shoot me. I just joined and saw network brands.

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Sorry, hunting season's open 🔫

last dirge May 14, 2020, 5:34 PM

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what is this abomination? https://www.costco.com/cafe-kitchen-hub-with-30-inch-range-hood.product.100509432.html

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"on sale" for a thousand bucks

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fantastic idea

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stick a 30" monitor over something that produces fire and steam

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 6:00 PM

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"Access Denied You don't have permission to access ..." from that link @last dirge

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lmao I get that on the entire cosco site

last dirge May 14, 2020, 6:01 PM

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works for me

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where are you?

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Europe :V

last dirge May 14, 2020, 6:01 PM

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yeah, that's probably why

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here's the GE version

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https://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-Profile-Kitchen-Hub-30-in-Smart-600-CFM-Range-Hood-with-Light-in-Stainless-Steel-UVH13012MSS/309660527

The Home Depot

GE Profile Kitchen Hub 30 in. Smart 600 CFM Range Hood with Light i...

Bring a smart and pretty look to your kitchen space with the addition of this excellent GE Profile Kitchen Hub in Stainless Steel. Easy to set up.

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in many US homes, that spot would usually be taken up by a microwave oven with a vent

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Looks like something you'd want to replace every 2 years

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Just because it'd be outdated that fast

last dirge May 14, 2020, 6:02 PM

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seems really dumb

main magnet May 14, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Hi All, New here just thought i woukd say hi 👋

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 6:18 PM

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@modest smelt Aruba probably in that range

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Aruba is 3x more expensive

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 6:19 PM

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@main magnet be warned, thar be dragons here

clever mortar May 14, 2020, 6:19 PM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/hulu-once-upon-a-time-3o7TKrEzvLbsVAud8I

Giphy

HULU

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 6:19 PM

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@modest smelt then you have shitty resellers haha

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The entry point Aruba products are usually thrown at customers at a loss

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Laugh all you want, I made do with what I had

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 6:21 PM

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It could have been worse

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 6:22 PM

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We used to have these: https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/netgear-8-port-gigabit-ethernet-switch-gs608-nggs608w

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Oh sorry no my bad

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That one is gigabit

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 6:23 PM

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8 port stuff josepHHM

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You used the words "network core" earlier

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Then I expect 40+ ports of 10/40gbit atleast just as the spine

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Yes, we built a new building

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it's 22x24p and 4x48p switches

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10G switch on backorder

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Yeah, that's what I call a distribution room usually

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 6:26 PM

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😛

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 6:27 PM

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The recent installs I've done have been 9x48 port distribution rooms, a dozen or two of those haha

modest smelt May 14, 2020, 6:27 PM

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yes and what size buildings are those

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 6:27 PM

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IRF only scales to 9 switches per control plane unfortunately

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Better than Cisco's 2 though

main magnet May 14, 2020, 7:15 PM

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@main magnet be warned, thar be dragons here
@clear ferry toasty

wild grove May 14, 2020, 7:19 PM

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huh interesting, because my myq is broken, in doing some troubleshooting they use tls_psk that really surprised me

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must be because the wifi gateway thing is super lower power/slow

last dirge May 14, 2020, 7:20 PM

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warthog goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt

wild grove May 14, 2020, 7:20 PM

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you got it!

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if you hear that, you've survived this time

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oh i bet w/ psk you can't mitm at all

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dangit

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 7:29 PM

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There we go!

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Got an ecobee3lite, and 2 smart sensors. And THIS should be finally better than that Harmony Lyric T5.

wild grove May 14, 2020, 7:30 PM

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oh you sweet summer child

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you may want to consider using the homekit connection method of integration the ecobee. the cloud based approach can be less than stable

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Oh?

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Cloud 🤢

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Hmmm, I did notice it wanted me to setup a developer API key and such. so, hmm yeah.

wild grove May 14, 2020, 7:36 PM

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i just say it as a fyi, not to warn you away or anything.

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Yeah, I get it, it's fine. It's better than my Lyric was, integration hell.

wild grove May 14, 2020, 7:39 PM

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when it works, its great. and the hk way is very solid and local (no lag for polling updates, etc)

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Yeah, local in this is better. Heh.

wild grove May 14, 2020, 7:40 PM

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there is a little disparity between the two but you could just use both if you wanted

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 7:40 PM

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heh, adding it to HomeKit, seems to be a PITA too though.

wild grove May 14, 2020, 7:42 PM

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it went well for me. hk connector discovered it, the ecobee displayed the code, i typed the code in the ha gui prompt. done

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/homekit_controller/ is the integration i mean

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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There we go, had to do it from the ecobee app itself.

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Not the Home app.

wild grove May 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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i think it shows up as homekit accessory in the add integration list

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Heh. Hmmm.

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I might have to see if I can trigger HomeKit scenes from hass somehow. 🙂

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What in the heck. Why is the "Desired Humidity" 72%?

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LOL

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And oohhhhh.. If I pair it up with HomeKit directly, I can't pair it in HASS that way, Interesting.

wild grove May 14, 2020, 7:56 PM

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do you live in the amazon rain forest?

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 7:56 PM

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LOL

clever mortar May 14, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Too dry to be Singapore

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Damnit Colin Robinson

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I removed the ecobee from homeKit , now waiting for it to show back up as a discoverable HomeKit device for hass....

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Funny. It's found my printer.... as a discoverable device. And my Lutron Caseta SmartBridge Pro, as a HomeKit device.. heh

wild grove May 14, 2020, 8:06 PM

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you may have to reset it from the ecobee unit itself

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Eh. I'll restart hass first, see if it gets it.

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That did it. 🙂

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:14 PM

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@undone aspen homekit devices can only be paired to one controller at a time

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 8:14 PM

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yeah, so I noticed. heh

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There we go. Now HASS is using it as HomeKit. 🙂

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And still has all the motion triggers, temperature readings... Etc.. Of all the remote sensors, fantabulous.

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 8:21 PM

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https://i.redd.it/afo0zhhipqy41.jpg

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:21 PM

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yup. you just won't have the comfort settings (as ecobee calls them) and independent fan control

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Hmmm, via the HomeKit HASS integration instead of the direct ecobee cloud API integration?

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Now, I'm at least only dependant on the SmartThings HUB for just the Z-Wave/ZigBee devices, and not the house thermostat as well. LOL

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:27 PM

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yeah, via homekit controller

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gotta get a zigbee/z-wave stick boi

clever mortar May 14, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Z* FTW

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 8:28 PM

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yeah, I don't mind that. And, Even if I did get a... Aeotec Z-Wave stick.. And/or another just for Zigbee too, since I currently use both technologies in my house. I'd have to setup some unreliable hodgepodge setup to get it to work.

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or, move my laptop that's currently running HASS, to the living room, where it has no reasonable place to stay.

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:29 PM

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zigbee and z-wave are mesh systems though, so you could get a repeater(s)

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or depending on how many mains-powered devices you already have that act as repeaters (most) you might be good

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I could. But, I have no hallway wall outlet to work with for that. LOL

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:30 PM

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not with that attitude

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😛

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I only have one Aeotec sensor that's plugged in and is in the garage.

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:30 PM

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O I C

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so it turns out i have $43 in amazon credit which means if i were to buy an edgerouter x it'd be $21, delivered saturday

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tempting

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Yeah. And the office, where HASS is running, is on the opposite end of the house. 🙂

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 8:31 PM

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should get the EL3 at a minimum

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:31 PM

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of course i should

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 8:31 PM

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that's the cheapest one that can do Gig up and down simultaneously

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Hmmm, Possibly could get a repeated on the living room wall where the TV is, because there could be something there.

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repeater.

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:32 PM

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out of my price range unfortunately, especially after just buying the new server

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 8:32 PM

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haha

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if you don't have a gig internet connection its less of a concern

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:33 PM

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i don't lol

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200 down

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 8:34 PM

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i believe the ERX can do 1G of throughput total so you should still be fine

main magnet May 14, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Oh no, router conversation, just makes me pine for a better set up

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:35 PM

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router? i hardly know her!

main magnet May 14, 2020, 8:35 PM

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The old ones are the best :p

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 8:36 PM

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boi

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:44 PM

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oh i remember why i never ended up buying an ERx... google wifi doesn't support VLANs (was going to use it as an AP) so i'd need to buy an AP too

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ffs

main magnet May 14, 2020, 8:45 PM

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💸

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:46 PM

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might as well just buy a new router that has a wi-fi radio

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it'd be nice if my current router just wasn't fucking stupid

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 8:47 PM

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@scenic radish buy a UDM

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:48 PM

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good lord

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that's definitely out of my price range lol

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 8:48 PM

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but ac gen 2 wifi, IDS/IPS

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vlan support

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:49 PM

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so now that i've reserved 10.0.0.12 for my server instead of 10.0.0.2, this situation isn't happening anymore: #the-water-cooler message

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 8:50 PM

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its worth spending the money on something decent instead of keep buying shitty wifi routers

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:51 PM

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i mean, this is the only router i've ever owned

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bought it 4 years ago

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 8:52 PM

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go get something that will make you realize that webex meetings is trying to connect to the Netherlands over port 53 for some odd reason

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and not to adguard home dns server...

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:53 PM

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reminds me, my abode gateway is listening on port 55023

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for what purpose, you ask? telnet

clever mortar May 14, 2020, 8:53 PM

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pepeLightSabers

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 8:54 PM

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good god

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again vlan all things and firewall it all off

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 8:54 PM

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@brisk glen Yes?

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:54 PM

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matt@debian:~$ telnet 10.0.0.45 55023
Trying 10.0.0.45...
Connected to 10.0.0.45.
Escape character is '^]'.

abode login:

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 8:54 PM

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I have abode premium too...

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:54 PM

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i've tried ncrack to no avail

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 8:55 PM

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well, thats a plus

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:55 PM

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and also mildly disappointing lol

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at least it's not listening on the standard telnet port?

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security by obscurity?

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not too obscure for nmap 10.0.0.45 -p1-65535 though

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 8:56 PM

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still makes me glad I vlan the shit out of everything

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:56 PM

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i mean, i don't have a port forwarded to it

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 8:57 PM

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still an internal IoT device can

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:57 PM

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i suppose, but i have uPnP disabled

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because that shit's ridiculous

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 8:57 PM

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yah but they communicate out

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:57 PM

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True

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 8:58 PM

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looks at the reverse ssh process

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Oh man, I'll be happy when I actually get my bedroom ceiling fan under Lutron control. Gotta re-wire it first, but...

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 8:58 PM

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oh that samsung phone hack?

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or is that not samsung specific

main magnet May 14, 2020, 8:59 PM

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looks at the reverse ssh process
@brisk glen great more stuff to worry about

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:00 PM

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@scenic radish when you ssh from an device to a server and then can ssh into that device from the server via a port of your choosing bypassing a users firewall

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 9:00 PM

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ah right

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abode login: 
Login timed out after 60 seconds
Connection closed by foreign host.

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those damn foreigners

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:01 PM

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aka any IoT device could easily be turned into an attack point

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via the good old standard ssh

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Heh, using my motion sensors which were on the ceiling, to do temperature readings, was not.... ideal. LOL

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:01 PM

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lol what?

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Seeings that heat rises.

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:02 PM

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this is why I use ecobee smart sensors on shelfs and walls

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Yep. This is why I bought ecobee. 🙂

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And some remote sensors on shelves, and walls.. LOL

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:03 PM

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best part is how it works localy via homekit

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:03 PM

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yeah, It's nice. So far working with it.

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:03 PM

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yay wink...

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yay for my madness for local poll or push

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:04 PM

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I'm working on adjusting my home climate automation I did in Node Red to no longer do the crazy temperature balancing that I was doing, and just controlling the ceiling fan in the living room to turn on when temperature is higher than the thermostat's setting.

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Once I figure out how to get the temperature from the thermostat that is. 🙂

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For some reason the value I get now is ... "cool" LOL

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:04 PM

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oh? I tend to let ecobee do its thing

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it does a fantastic job and accounts for the humidity

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(I have eco+)

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 9:05 PM

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@undone aspen if your thermostat is a climate device you want the current_temperature attribute

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Yeah, I recall now, looking at my code. 🙂

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msg.data.attributes.current_temperature

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I used to get that data from an input, to target the temperature that way. Horrible hacky ways.

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I still need to figure out which dame thing to toggle just for the fan for ecobee

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 9:07 PM

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@scenic radish don't listen too much to @brisk glen he is more paranoid than a mcarthyian haha

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Line 85: Unsupported element 'Connection' RIP hassos OVA

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 9:08 PM

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climate.set_fan_mode @brisk glen

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:08 PM

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make me do it the hard way

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ohh thanks

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and that is from homekit data?

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 9:09 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:09 PM

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rebuilding home assistent

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 9:09 PM

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if its coming through as a climate entity and supports that

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:09 PM

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😛

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 9:11 PM

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support fan mode is 8

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:12 PM

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📎 image0.png

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look at the bullshit I have to go through

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Homekit 🤢

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We should just deprecate it

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 9:13 PM

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lol

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Because all users do is complain about it

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:13 PM

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never!

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 9:13 PM

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but its apple so it must be the best possible thing!

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 9:13 PM

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hey anyone else having issues with homekit?

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:13 PM

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I use HA because of homekit

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:13 PM

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I'm not having any issues. 🙂

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:13 PM

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even if apple can be a pos sometimes

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homekit secure video is trash

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 9:14 PM

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what a fabulous room, are all these your guitars?

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:15 PM

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at least my wife does not kill me when I break things in HA because I have basic automatons in homekit

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Hah. Well, no freaking wonder it's so cold in my bedroom. 19.7'C, now, while the living room is 22.3'C.

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:16 PM

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@undone aspen need to get the mean of those sensors that have occupancy

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 9:16 PM

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I prefer bedroom to be 12-15c, wife does not

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:16 PM

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heh

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Well, I can now possibly get the sleeping temperature better adjusted, for once. 🙂

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If, I can somehow, get Alexa/HASS to control the ecobee "comfort setting" mode, to sleep/home/away/etc.. 😄

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:18 PM

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you can

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set up the scenes in the ecobee app for homekit

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trigger those

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Hmmm

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I'm not seeing how to setup scenes in the ecobee app, for homekit.

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googles, one sec.

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Hmm yep. Not seeing it as described.

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:23 PM

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open the app...

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account on the bottom right

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homekit under intergrations

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scenes

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:23 PM

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yeah, but there's nothing in there for "Scenes"

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:24 PM

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go make some?

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📎 image0.png

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:24 PM

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There's no "Scenes" area at all.

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:25 PM

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📎 image0.png

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Yeah, No Scenes.

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:26 PM

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I wonder if its because you have it directly connected to HA?

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:26 PM

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I got all my rooms, Backyard, Front Yard, lanai, living room, bedroom, etc... But no Scenes.

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I mean, it could be, yes.

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:27 PM

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time to make your own in HA

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:28 PM

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tilts his head.

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:28 PM

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make scenes for home, asleep, away etc

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set your desired temp ranges

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make automations for time and week day

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Well, the idea would be to use HASS to set ecobee to a particular mode.

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 9:29 PM

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See, homekit is only issues

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:29 PM

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@clear ferry they way ecobee does homekit is kinda funky

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Also, this is starting to look less #the-water-cooler and more #general-archived

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:30 PM

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theres an other now?

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Seems so.

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 9:30 PM

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I have my tstat schedule in home assistant automations along with input_number sliders to adjust setpoints on the fly

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Which isn't often

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:31 PM

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@scenic radish Yeah, that's what I'm trying to get away from. LOL

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Ehh, it wasn't bad

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:31 PM

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It's not bad, but it limits whom can control the temperature.

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Because the thermostat on the wall just becomes a point to show that location's temperature, because changing it there would result in... Being automated back to what you set automation to do.

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LOL

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:32 PM

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that sounds like a dream come true

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:32 PM

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I'm trying to get THAT functionality back in functional. LOL

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Worst case, I can add the Developer API back in, use that, only for controlling those factors.

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 9:36 PM

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input_boolean to override the schedule 😛

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:36 PM

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heh

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That's a possability, indeed. 🙂

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:46 PM

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the ecobee is just funky in general

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:47 PM

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I like, at least, how the ecobee is acurate to +/- 0.1'C, though, unlike the Honeywell.

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The Honeywell was accurate to +/- 1'F only.

green inlet May 14, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Looks like ATX woke up Apple grumpy today

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:48 PM

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that is true, its homekit integration is just funky as hell, a shame its our only local one

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Eh,. at least THAT even exists, period.

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I had to get Honeywell Lyric stuff working by obscure methods of using SmartThings HUB to integrate it and expose it to HASS.

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Imagine THAT garbage.

green inlet May 14, 2020, 9:49 PM

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I don’t have ecobee so I may be speaking out of turn but after you add it to ha, everything in HA can be exposed to homekit.

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:50 PM

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@green inlet we are talking about how ecobee exposes its settings via homekit

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and how its the only local method

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:50 PM

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@green inlet Well, yeah. API vs HomeKit, API exposes a "Preset" which can be a number of settings, Home, Away, Sleep, just to name a few.

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Under HomeKit, this is not exposed, but under the Dev API, it is.

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HomeKit, however, shows the Target Humidity, while that doesn't seem to be exposed via the Dev API. LOL

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:51 PM

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and the DEV api keeps going down

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:52 PM

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When's the last time you used it?

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:52 PM

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I keep having to re-connect

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Manually?

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:53 PM

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yes

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it looses authorization

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:53 PM

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hmmm

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How often?

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:53 PM

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too often

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I gave up on it

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:53 PM

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I'll see if I end up with the same issue, while using HomeKit, and the Dev API.

green inlet May 14, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Funny, everyone ran from nest to ecobee.....now ecobee is slowly cutting off their API?

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:55 PM

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I ran from Honeywell to Ecobee. LOL

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Lol thermostats I say, I only see them if I go south in Europe

green inlet May 14, 2020, 9:56 PM

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I bought my nest like 8 days before they announced the move to google. I stayed with them and now it looks like it is going to work out 🤞🏻

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Yes, ATX, but you live in the land of fairies, unicorns and pixie dust......what dreams are made of.

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:57 PM

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heh

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When Google took over Nest.. I was glad I never bought into nest.

clear ferry May 14, 2020, 9:58 PM

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doffysmug

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:58 PM

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I don't want to ever be locked into one solution, and only that one solution.

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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my requirement is that the API has to work localy without any internet

green inlet May 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Yes but now google is promising to expose their entire api and HAss has said they will try and become a partner

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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what?

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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How long did that take?

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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if that API is local...

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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And, is it still vapor promises?

green inlet May 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Prob not but I don’t care about local.

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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@last plaza these drones are fun af

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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@green inlet did you not see wink?

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 10:00 PM

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📎 IMG_20200514_165918.jpg

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Landed it in my blinds lol

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 10:00 PM

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wow.

green inlet May 14, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Yes, how long was wink around? I got rid of my 8 tracks when they went out of style. Technology progresses. Besides, google is not wink.

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@scenic radish , does it have a remote or you use your phone?

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Not intentionally @undone aspen

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Remote, they were a deal on Meh the other day. $15 for two mini drones with remotes lol

humble pond May 14, 2020, 10:02 PM

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My daughter is using the iPad we use as our HomeKit hub for school and she found the home app. She decided it'd be fun to turn off all the switches... including the PoE switches for UniFi... Access points turn off, we lose WiFi, important Zoom call drops, and it takes me half an hour to figure out WTF just happened... Good times.

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 10:02 PM

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no, google just kills random projects

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LOL

green inlet May 14, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Lmao.....aren’t kids a blessing

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 10:03 PM

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I keep my network off of homekit and ha

green inlet May 14, 2020, 10:03 PM

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@brisk glen , that’s why baskin and Robbins has 31 flavors, something for everyone. I like google.

rain swift May 14, 2020, 10:03 PM

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anyone ever get this? I went to grab some motions sensors in a list on amazon and got this message, wondering if it means what it says, or if I got haxed.

📎 unknown.png

trail crag May 14, 2020, 10:04 PM

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do you have a wish list?

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Is that item in a wish list?

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herh

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So, about how often was often though, @brisk glen ?

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 10:06 PM

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several times a week

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 10:07 PM

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That you had to manually re-auth it and all?

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 10:07 PM

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yes

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Dang.

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 10:07 PM

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idk why

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it has some odd issues with docker routing for some reason

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

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I saw my climate.thermostat_2 go grey.... But refreshing the page it came back to normal.

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Temperature does update slower via the API for sure.

warped salmon May 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

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good afternoon, would anyone like to talk about setting up my server? Ive just purchased a used optiplex and i am hoping to move all of my pi's onto that box. I've been told Proxmox is the thing to use?

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Promox VE is definitely a nice thing to use.

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Proxmox, mind you, is a company.

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VE is a product they make.

warped salmon May 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

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right.

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

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So, like calling Acrobat Reader or Photostop as "Adobe", that's not right. 🙂

warped salmon May 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

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so install proxmox ve then setup all of my things on virtual environments? or is there a better way that I do not yet know of

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

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"Better" is a personal thing.

warped salmon May 14, 2020, 10:15 PM

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right. is there anything better?

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 10:15 PM

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"better" is a personal choice.

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Only YOU can decide that.

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 10:16 PM

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"butter" is a fat that comes from cream

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 10:16 PM

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And, this is better suited for #general-archived for sure, not #the-water-cooler.

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 10:22 PM

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*butter suited

hushed basalt May 14, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Argh houses/land in my home town are so much cheaper than here

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Like $100k for 800sqm vs $1,000k for 800sqm

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But no jobs :(

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 10:43 PM

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72 F inside with a dewpoint of 60 F 🤢

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22 C and 15.5 C

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 10:44 PM

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There! At least I can get low battery warnings in HomeKit., 😄

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 10:49 PM

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and forever loading when trying to add the ecobee api key via a new home assistent supervised setup

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there it is

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Their API is awful

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Has it gotten any better in the last 6 months?

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 10:50 PM

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lets find out...

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still trying to add it

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 10:52 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/bcf2e2abb52d29bd01b0632b09c54928/tenor.gif

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 10:55 PM

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just takes an age... wow

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 10:56 PM

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B A D A P I

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 10:57 PM

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It's been pretty stable for me lately

scenic radish May 14, 2020, 10:57 PM

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no

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 10:57 PM

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giving it a new try

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oh look https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/coronavirus/ fails to work

Home Assistant

Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Instructions on how to integrate the Coronavirus sensors within Home Assistant.

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😄

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feels like the good old HA days

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guess I get to bug poor cogneato in supervised since I broke it by just using the web page to add integrations.....

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 11:02 PM

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LOL.

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Okay, here's a funny.

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I FINALLY got out and tested the Siren mode of my Ring Driveway Flood lights, because I never tested the siren part out.

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It's... Not actually very loud.

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 11:06 PM

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and its back after a server reboot lol

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 11:09 PM

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@undone aspen probably for the best. Don't want to piss off the neighbors

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 11:09 PM

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yeah, indeed. 🙂

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Especially since I'm about to start integrating audible alerts. 😄

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It's a pitty though that the Aeotec Siren 6 doesn't act as a Master/Repeater, only a Slave.

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Despite you plugging it in.

brisk glen May 14, 2020, 11:28 PM

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my abode outdoor siren is LOUD

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designed to piss off the neighbors

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placed in an area to allow it to be most herd and set off their dogs

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 11:48 PM

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heh.

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I have a Siren 6 coming, and the Ring flood light, which I will finally bundle together in further testing and designing my customized virtual security syste,.

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Oh this is funny.

#

the attributes coming out of the ecobee for the temperature, is doing very similar to what I was doing for my climate automation.

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Adjusting the actual temperature down to point to a specific temperature, calculated by algorithm, so it would keep it on even if the sensor at that location wasn't correct, so it could adjust temperature of multiple sensors to match up.

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Yeah, the main temp should be an average of all sensors included in the current comfort setting

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Yeah. :)_

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 11:55 PM

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I have those switch in and out throughout the day

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 11:55 PM

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This breaks /some/ of my logic with the fan control automation I was doing, because that attribute doesn't show me the target temperature I want it. LOL

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it.. Might still work in favor though regardless. Hmmm

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 11:56 PM

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There should be a set point

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 11:56 PM

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I'm not seeing it, not from HASS attributes that Node Red is receiving.

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 11:57 PM

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You going through homekit?

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 11:57 PM

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I am, yes.

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On this one anyway.

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Ahhh, target_temp_high isn't available in the HomeKit attributes.

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Are you in heat-cool mode?

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 11:59 PM

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I am.

wet pilot May 14, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Do you get a value back if you switch to heat or cool?

undone aspen May 14, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Sheash.. Not sure if I even need heat-cool mode, ever,, In Florida.

wet pilot May 15, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Haha

undone aspen May 15, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Let me see...

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It seems to just show "temperature" as the target, even though it's shwoing 23.7, but is actually 23.5 (on display)

wet pilot May 15, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Hmm

undone aspen May 15, 2020, 12:04 AM

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So, yeah. HomeKit mode does not provide accurate details, but integrationd oes, in that respect.

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Dunno why switching between Cool and Auto mode it just assumes I want 25'C though. LOL

wild grove May 15, 2020, 12:09 AM

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thats bizarre, may be a bug?

undone aspen May 15, 2020, 12:12 AM

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A bug in HASS's HomeKit integration?

last plaza May 15, 2020, 12:14 AM

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@last plaza these drones are fun af
@scenic radish yes. Our kids love to play with them in the backyard when I use my big one. Two for $10 - including remote, charger cable and the drone! Can’t beat that!

scenic radish May 15, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Screamin deal

wild grove May 15, 2020, 12:43 AM

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who has two thumbs and just spent several hours repairing, rebooting, troubleshooting his ha<>myq integration only to find out his kids hit the gfi test button that the garage door opener is off of?

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👍 👍

undone aspen May 15, 2020, 12:44 AM

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lol

wet pilot May 15, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Lol kids are the ultimate x-factor

undone aspen May 15, 2020, 12:51 AM

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heh

green inlet May 15, 2020, 1:04 AM

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So.....I recently realized I wasn’t using http validation on the linuxserver/letsencrypt docker because I was using duckdns validation. Huge lightbulb......and the ability to discontinue port forwarding on port 80. I went from about 30 drive by hacking a day to about 3 🤞🏻
Drive by hacking on port 80 >= drive by shootings in Compton.
#babysteps.

forest edge May 15, 2020, 1:13 AM

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this is the second time i've had to reboot the host from ssh to get access to HA frontend. I wonder if that's early sign of sdcard failure or if it's something to do with how long the instance remains active between reboots

scenic radish May 15, 2020, 1:13 AM

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SD cards 🤢

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(filling in for atx)

forest edge May 15, 2020, 1:14 AM

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how's your mini pc working out for ya @scenic radish

scenic radish May 15, 2020, 1:39 AM

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@forest edge I like it! Nice upgrade from the pi.

rain swift May 15, 2020, 1:41 AM

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once you go VM running on an SSD, you never go back to a pi.

brisk glen May 15, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Almost bought it but then I wanted object recognition

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Hello intel NUC

rain swift May 15, 2020, 1:43 AM

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is anyone running this rf433 stuff? is it worth messing with? I heard runtime is great on battery powered stuff.

near cave May 15, 2020, 1:48 AM

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which rf433 thing? I have a skylight I want to wire up somehow and I think it’s 433

wild grove May 15, 2020, 2:27 AM

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i use 433 for grill thermometer.

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i'm using an rtl-sdr

hushed basalt May 15, 2020, 2:37 AM

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It depends on what you want to do

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My xiaomi aqara zigbee temp sensors last forever. And so do my ikea PIRs

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If you have any sort of remote control for a fan, blinds, etc, chances are it's 433mhz

near cave May 15, 2020, 3:01 AM

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I think my dumb fireplace is 915MHz or something? I’m reading that my skylight might be an encrypted protocol, so I’d have to buy a bridge from them anyway, sigh

wild grove May 15, 2020, 3:10 AM

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See if rtl 433 supports the fireplace

sage frost May 15, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Is anyone here running HA on an Odroid XU4?

tidal bronze May 15, 2020, 3:50 AM

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@last dirge still up?😀

last dirge May 15, 2020, 3:50 AM

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sup?

tidal bronze May 15, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Nothing. Flipping some burgers so killing time. Been a long day

last dirge May 15, 2020, 3:52 AM

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I'm watching mindless videos on YouTube

tidal bronze May 15, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Lol. Added some local push button to mqtt for pool guy.

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Gotta love gpio + mqtt

last dirge May 15, 2020, 3:53 AM

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out of dash buttons?

tidal bronze May 15, 2020, 3:53 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20200513-123558_Gallery.jpg

last dirge May 15, 2020, 3:54 AM

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LOL

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nice labels

tidal bronze May 15, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Too tired did it quick. Selected the wrong label in Rhino

last dirge May 15, 2020, 3:55 AM

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you could 3d print something

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which is that? wire label?

tidal bronze May 15, 2020, 3:55 AM

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I think panel lmao

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Out of it by the time I wrote the automations.

last dirge May 15, 2020, 3:57 AM

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have you tried the heatshrink cartridges?

tidal bronze May 15, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Yep

last dirge May 15, 2020, 3:57 AM

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do they work well?

tidal bronze May 15, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Very nice

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Some times ends up in a shit show.

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28awg and above a task

slim vortex May 15, 2020, 4:42 AM

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does anyone have Almond working? Are there some docs somewhere that I'm missing?

thick dragon May 15, 2020, 6:11 AM

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It's so wild seeing the %age of DNS queries blocked now that I've installed AdGuard. Can't believe that 20-30% of all my DNS requests have been for ads! So damn much advertising!

sour escarp May 15, 2020, 6:30 AM

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It’s cool you’re seeing that data. I don’t think I want to even know

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Wow, that's crazy!

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How does AdGuard compare to piHole?

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Got my first UniFi device today!!! 🎉

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And now I need more. Heh, such is life.

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 6:45 AM

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I would have expected the number to be higher tbh @thick dragon

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Atleast if you are in a household with atleast 3 people

sour escarp May 15, 2020, 6:52 AM

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Yeah I have a 14 y/o daughter that takes her fair share of consuming bandwidth.

hearty depot May 15, 2020, 7:10 AM

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@peak cloud They doing about the same thing.
in general you selfhost the subscription DNS service, Latency is also a tiny bit better then piHole.

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Does either support ipv6? I suspect DNS might be faster there

hearty depot May 15, 2020, 7:12 AM

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firewalled all ipv6 at home 😄

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 7:12 AM

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PiHole does

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I'd be shocked if AdGuard didn't

hearty depot May 15, 2020, 7:13 AM

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https://adguard.com/de/blog/dns-ipv6-support.html
10.2017

AdGuard Blog

AdGuard DNS now supports IPv6

Good news for those who use AdGuard DNS and like to always be a step ahead — we have added support for IPv6 addresses. Read the article to find out what is it and why is it important.

forest edge May 15, 2020, 7:24 AM

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had a thunderstorm roll through here and my pir which is set to like 1ft was going off like crazy lol

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 7:34 AM

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Morning

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 7:49 AM

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I want some thunderstorms

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angryboi

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 7:50 AM

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You want thundersnow

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 7:52 AM

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They are snowing down back home

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I see new reports about closed roads and police telling people to not drive

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So I send them Snapchat about how nice our roads are, every day

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🐶

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The local university webcam says it all

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http://weather.cs.uit.no/panorama/

Weather observations, UiT The Arctic University of Norway, Departme...

Tromsø Weather picture video rain snow temperature humidity wind sun pressure Vær bilde regn snø temperatur vind sol.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 7:54 AM

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Our roads are cool too

forest edge May 15, 2020, 7:54 AM

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typical Norwegian dependability right there lol

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that first camera is probably sitting on the ground under 10ft of snow

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 7:55 AM

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From the other side of the fjord

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http://thorheim.no/webkamera_tromso.asp

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 8:45 AM

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How much do you pay for them?

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We have some sort of tax based on the fuel it uses and its weight

forest edge May 15, 2020, 8:48 AM

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i see the myq intergration is brokered again

velvet horizonBOT May 15, 2020, 8:50 AM

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:8ball: 8Ball prdiction:

Question: ~8ball What about MyQ?
Answer: The Sky's The Limit

forest edge May 15, 2020, 8:50 AM

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lol

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I have a shelly 1 now, just waiting on the reed switches

#

finally get away from that cloud bs

strange vapor May 15, 2020, 9:05 AM

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https://twitter.com/tha_rami/status/1261098808601128965

Rami Ismail (@tha_rami)

D-dad?!

Retweets

1479

Likes

9695

hearty depot May 15, 2020, 9:08 AM

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you have to love ~~vscode~~ codium

📎 unknown.png

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closing 1 window

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:10 AM

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OMG why did I wait so long to finally get my first UniFi device?!?!!?

hearty depot May 15, 2020, 9:11 AM

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ask @clear ferry 😄
#the-water-cooler message
wich you got?

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:16 AM

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I got an UAP-AC-M.

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@clear ferry Why do you hate Ubiquiti?

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I have another UAP-AC-M on order, it'll be here Tuesday. Going to set it up as a wireless uplink to rebroadcast my network to FOH.

hearty depot May 15, 2020, 9:18 AM

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yea, why? @clear ferry

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:18 AM

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I'm not really sure I've ever heard anyone actually complain about Ubiquiti products...

light trout May 15, 2020, 9:19 AM

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@peak cloud go to sleep 🙈

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:20 AM

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I'm no where near tired yet d00d.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 9:20 AM

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Go sleep

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:21 AM

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Only on my 4th beer.

light trout May 15, 2020, 9:21 AM

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Rookie numbers! 🍻

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:22 AM

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I didn't start until an hour ago, jeeze.

light trout May 15, 2020, 9:22 AM

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get your priorities sorted

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:23 AM

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They are sorted! My network is not on fire.

light trout May 15, 2020, 9:23 AM

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added firewall? 😄

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Firewall is already setup in the router.

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But that's been there.

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Need to get a hardware firewall. Is that what the USG is? Or is the USG just a router?

forest edge May 15, 2020, 9:29 AM

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so... much.. greeeeeeeennnn

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 9:32 AM

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hey guys what is home-assistant-freyes

velvet horizonBOT May 15, 2020, 9:33 AM

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:point_up: Let me Google that for you...

Here , try this:
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=home-assistant-freyes

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 9:33 AM

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i assume its home assistant to be able to be installed via snap? is it the same version/layout as have on the pi's?

forest edge May 15, 2020, 9:36 AM

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no, it looks like someone's m,odification of an older version of HA

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 9:36 AM

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oh

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what i want to try and do it run a daemon on the home assistant software itself, any ideas if its possible?

forest edge May 15, 2020, 9:37 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/ is the only official source everything else is someone doing thier own thang

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:38 AM

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What daemon are you trying to run?

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 9:38 AM

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just a cryptocurrency wallet daemon

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:39 AM

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If there is not an add-on for it (for supervised), then you might look into running a Docker install.

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 9:39 AM

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hm ok, im super knew to that

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:39 AM

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(If there is a Docker image available for it)

hearty depot May 15, 2020, 9:39 AM

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If not, Build one 😛

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:40 AM

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Yeah, I don't see that happening. 😂

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 9:40 AM

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Pretty easy to build a Docker image

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I've got three building right now 😛

hearty depot May 15, 2020, 9:40 AM

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I never touched docker files - Lets see how long it takes me

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 9:41 AM

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anyway, im involved with a cryptocurrency called Denarius and ive built myself a fullon crypto mining man cave and the room is 100% fully automated via home assistant. just wanted to share some images

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https://blockforums.org/topic/256-new-denarius-room/

BlockForums

New Denarius Room

Hi guys just wanted to post some images of a few things Ive been working on. Ive built myself my very own crypto room. I built the entire lot, and proved to be a lot of work, but well worth it. Just wanted to share my work. Framing up of the room Installation of exterior sheet...

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anyway here is the link

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so what ive done to fully automate the cooling, lighting, generator backup etc etc etc , its all done via home assistant. So the last 4 months ive been building it all. from scratch. ive had no experience ever in coding

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602986638745796618/710740044817891408/20200515_142655.jpg

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602986638745796618/710740208022454272/Screenshot_20200511-232256_Home_Assistant.jpg

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602986638745796618/710740422107987978/Screenshot_20200515-142830_Home_Assistant.jpg

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thats only a few pages, but there are many more. the app monitors all the servers, daemons and everything as i run a website, fortunastakehosting.com which hosts masternodes for Denarius

forest edge May 15, 2020, 9:47 AM

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should post that in #diy-archived that's where creative things get noticed the most. also might make it in the next blog about what people are doing with HA, never know!

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 9:48 AM

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The forum has a projects section

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 9:48 AM

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oh ok, i might post it all there 👍

forest edge May 15, 2020, 9:49 AM

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there needs to be a link to the forums somewhere more noticable

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too bad discord doesn't have an ability to like put hot links as a channel place holder or something

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:50 AM

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There's a work-around for that that we've used before.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 9:50 AM

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So much spam

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xd

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Create channel. Post one message containing the link to the forum. Lock channel.

forest edge May 15, 2020, 9:51 AM

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lol

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:51 AM

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It worked!

velvet horizonBOT May 15, 2020, 9:51 AM

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You can find the community forum here

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Of course, everybody gets a link when they join... but nobody reads those

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https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/331130181102206976/471041408371785738

forest edge May 15, 2020, 9:52 AM

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i wonder if you could make a category name a link and just not add any channels lol

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 9:52 AM

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i posted all the stuff in #diy-archived

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sorry i never meant to spam guys

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 9:52 AM

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It's fine, if it wasn't a mod would yell at you 😉

forest edge May 15, 2020, 9:52 AM

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pssh what you did was not nearly as bad as the emoji spam we endure on a daily basis around here

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 9:53 AM

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oh im used to it dont worry, im admin in Denarius, the crypto im involved in

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been in discord the last 3 years or so

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 9:53 AM

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@midnight adder Could be worse , ask @ocean mirage

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 9:53 AM

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lol

forest edge May 15, 2020, 9:54 AM

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📎 atxsick.png

hearty depot May 15, 2020, 9:54 AM

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📎 unknown.png

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 9:54 AM

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📎 unknown.png

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:54 AM

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I was about to send that screenshot!! Hhahah

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 9:54 AM

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We tagged the Modz

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WHY

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:54 AM

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!!!!!

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 9:54 AM

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better than bitcoin

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 9:54 AM

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🤦

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 9:54 AM

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YOU HATE ME

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 9:54 AM

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lol

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 9:54 AM

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D:

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 9:54 AM

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wow it worked in here

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 9:54 AM

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they changed it.

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D:

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Dude. That was bad.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 9:54 AM

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I'm going to hide for a while

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Yes

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it was.

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I"M SORRY

dull chasm May 15, 2020, 9:55 AM

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no doubt where is the fire

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 9:55 AM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/hammer-super-mario-8-bit-qPD4yGsrc0pdm
@fading zodiac 😛

Giphy

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:55 AM

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I'm serious: Do not do that again, or you will be banned.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 9:55 AM

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I know

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:/

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I passed whiskerz

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normally, it wouldnt do the thing if it wasnt only the group

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apparatnly, if i do @fading zodiaca

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it jsut does the name

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Well, you summoned 20+ mods...

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Beta testing of greenhouse controller still commencing

📎 JPEG_20200515_115524.jpg

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Well, alteast stuff is safe

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:55 AM

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?warn @fading zodiac Do not needlessly tag atMod again.

slim rampartBOT May 15, 2020, 9:55 AM

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dynoSuccess Mimiix#5877 has been warned.

dull chasm May 15, 2020, 9:55 AM

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@clear ferry congrats

thick crypt May 15, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Uhm did someone tagged me?

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 9:55 AM

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ORLLY

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😂

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🤷‍♂️

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Sorry folks!

light trout May 15, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Where is the fire?

dull chasm May 15, 2020, 9:56 AM

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^^^^^^ did @thick crypt he did a bad bad thing

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:57 AM

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About half of the mods are brand new as of a couple days ago. So you legit just tagged nearly 20 people that jump at the atMod tag.

thick crypt May 15, 2020, 9:57 AM

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🔥

hearty depot May 15, 2020, 9:57 AM

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hehe

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Could be worse

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but

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I'm sorry ;p

forest edge May 15, 2020, 9:57 AM

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and @scenic radish slept through it lmao

low harness May 15, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Can you even see when it's mod and when it's you personally that was tagged?

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 9:57 AM

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pics incoming

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Few mining rigs I built for my crypto room

📎 20190521_193758.jpg 📎 20190511_234516.jpg 📎 20190503_222747.jpg

dull chasm May 15, 2020, 9:58 AM

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yes it shows message @low harness

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 9:58 AM

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This looks like a flux drive

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or so

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wth

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 9:58 AM

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You're right...it could be worse. Just ask @clever mortar (hint: https://buprestidfrilledlizard.htmlpasta.com/)

junior forge May 15, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Who woke me up?

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 9:59 AM

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prob me, ive been posting alot the last 30 mins lol

forest edge May 15, 2020, 9:59 AM

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points at @clear ferry

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 9:59 AM

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@junior forge i did 😂

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I fucked up again.

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Discord added a feature.

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Apparrantly, if you add stuf , the prefix stays

junior forge May 15, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Again?!?!

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swear

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:00 AM

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So i do @fading zodiaca

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It still tags me

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:/

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Kinda stupid

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Anyway, Why don't you guys get a postbox?

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That you can PM

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:00 AM

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?

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We have (at least) two bots here.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Theres a bot they use in another big discord(i think it was RDR2?)

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That one you send a message which opens a ticket

junior forge May 15, 2020, 10:01 AM

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You wanted to mail my ass a letter? 😒

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:01 AM

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i'd like your adres and send a postcard.

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Would that work?

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@peak cloud it's called Modmail

hearty depot May 15, 2020, 10:02 AM

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I want the address to send an 80 kg steel furnace

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:02 AM

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I dont think my delivery guy likes that

forest edge May 15, 2020, 10:02 AM

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has anyone even used atMods properly?

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:02 AM

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No

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He complained when i orderd a 15 kg chair.

forest edge May 15, 2020, 10:02 AM

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I can't recall a single time needing to ever use it

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:02 AM

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@forest edge Yes, plenty of times.

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I'd say half are legit.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Exactly

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So that modmail

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helps

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maybe skala can make it work with hsi bot

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but more that it just gets forwarded, because a PM works far better then the @ function.

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Primary use has been to alert us to spammers/abusive idiots

forest edge May 15, 2020, 10:04 AM

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lol and here i thought we were the spammers/abusive idiots

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:04 AM

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I will look into that -- not a bad idea at all.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:04 AM

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I'm with Sonoma

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😂

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:04 AM

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Thank you @fading zodiac

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This is lounge -- almost anything goes here,.

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 10:05 AM

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That does look pretty slick

dull chasm May 15, 2020, 10:05 AM

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@peak cloud do you see this with last discord update?

📎 unknown.png

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:05 AM

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4 rules here:

No HA support.
No politics.
No religion.
Be civil.

forest edge May 15, 2020, 10:05 AM

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!ticket need helpz wit my windoze installation

dull chasm May 15, 2020, 10:05 AM

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see the icons for servers missing

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 10:05 AM

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Don't annoy the mods 😛

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Oh wow, no, that's weird.

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📎 unknown.png

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Dale, i pmed you some info on it

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on that bot.

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Mine are all there.

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Gotta do other stuff than it, sometimes

📎 JPEG_20200515_120612.jpg

dull chasm May 15, 2020, 10:06 AM

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damn

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:06 AM

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You can put stuff in folders nowadays.

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📎 unknown.png

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:06 AM

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There's quite a few more past the bottom of that haha

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:07 AM

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the one under the siren is a folder

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:07 AM

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Oooo, neat! Didn't know about folders

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:07 AM

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Just put them inside each other.

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I use it primarly to put the ones i hardly use in 1 place

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:07 AM

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@clever mortar Your #5 falls under #4.

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 10:07 AM

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Folders are damned handy

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 10:07 AM

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I'm in 24 servers josepHHM

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:08 AM

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Only 20 here.

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 10:08 AM

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I need to up my ignored servers game 🤔

forest edge May 15, 2020, 10:08 AM

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23 of them are about cherry flavored food in some form or another i bet

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:09 AM

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It's crazy how quickly Discord grew.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:09 AM

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ITs still a chrome browser tho.

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 10:09 AM

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peepoSmash

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:09 AM

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At one point I think we were in the top 2 or 3 servers on Discord.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:09 AM

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í

📎 unknown.png

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Cmd+Option+I definitely reveals that. Haha

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Is the iOS app just a webapp also?

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:10 AM

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No clue

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:10 AM

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I came up with an app I wanted to create, but have no experience in writing native apps.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:11 AM

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I love webapps

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 10:15 AM

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hey guys is it possible to install home assistant on ubuntu desktop?

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:15 AM

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#330944238910963714

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an

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and

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Generic linux

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 10:16 AM

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so wont work on ubuntu 18 ?

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:17 AM

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Ubuntu is a generic linux?

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Also

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what does it say in this channel description?

midnight adder May 15, 2020, 10:18 AM

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im learning, dont be a prick, im new here

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:20 AM

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@midnight adder Head over to #330944238910963714 or #672217570283094017 -- which one depends on whether you want to run a supervised install or not.

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 10:20 AM

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#672217570283094017 for native Docker or pip

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#330944238910963714 for add-ons

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:22 AM

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Oh now i'm the prick

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Clearly didn't read it :p

forest edge May 15, 2020, 10:23 AM

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apparently MyQ working again

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weird

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:24 AM

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MyQ?

velvet horizonBOT May 15, 2020, 10:24 AM

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:point_up: Let me Google that for you...

Here , try this:
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=myq+😛

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:25 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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That's usefull

forest edge May 15, 2020, 10:25 AM

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lmao

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:25 AM

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😂

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And i found a app

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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.trebbble.android.wind.q&hl=en_US

myQ - Apps on Google Play

Q is here to make things simple. Enjoy the new experience with new possibilities!

Balance Check & talk time top up
Exclusive offers & top up bonus
Q STAR bundles, being activated once and worry no more!
Scheduled top up each month, through you credit/debit card
Clear...

forest edge May 15, 2020, 10:26 AM

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myq.com

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:26 AM

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For a garage?

forest edge May 15, 2020, 10:27 AM

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yes

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Aah okay

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Cloud 🤢

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 10:29 AM

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☁️

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or ☀️ ?

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:37 AM

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@clear ferry Still wondering why you hate Ubiquiti.

orchid rose May 15, 2020, 10:39 AM

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atx hates everything consumer grade

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atx is a hater

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 10:43 AM

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Haven't worked with it, but from what I've seen in the interfaces and forums regarding im not very impressed, but I come from enterprise side, so I'm picky

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:44 AM

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I've always thought it was enterprise, but at consumer prices.

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What else would you want to see on a dashboard?

📎 unknown.png

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Maybe by the time this virus stuff passes you'll figure out what you want to say?

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 10:49 AM

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Dashboards are just gimmicky, can I access the cli onsite with a serial cable and get port statistics and a proper error log? And can I create interface groups to configure 48 interfaces at once from a single parent interface? Or for that matter, a single group that can configure 9 switches at once ? Then we are starting to scratch enterprise, not to mention a decent amount of 10-25-40g ports

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In real life we never use dashboards, and the customers that have them have them on a big display that shows the dashboard for 3 seconds every 5 minutes

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I need a proper featureset that I can configure either from cli or SSH, with an intuitive cli

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 10:51 AM

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I think somebody's aiming too high 😛

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:51 AM

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Cli onsite with an ethernet cable. Not sure about port stats and error logs. I think it's possible to create interface groups to configure many at a time.

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Lol, I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't use dashboards -- haha.

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 10:52 AM

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@clever mortar someone said enterprise haha

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 10:53 AM

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I'd call it "prosumer"

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Better than consumer junk at least 😄

orchid rose May 15, 2020, 10:54 AM

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Don't be hating on my Netgear

modest smelt May 15, 2020, 10:55 AM

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prosumer is what Ubiquiti is aiming for though?

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:56 AM

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I don't come from enterprise, so it's helpful to have some insight on that.

modest smelt May 15, 2020, 10:57 AM

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What is your usecase & goal dal3h?

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:57 AM

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A stable network that is accessible 30ft from the exterior walls of my house.

modest smelt May 15, 2020, 10:57 AM

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So home network

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You're A-OK with ubiquiti

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Anybody trying to shit on ubiquiti for home useage is insane

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"But but my $5000 switches and AP's perform better!"

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 10:58 AM

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But also with security, and also "parental controls." I have a pre-teen and two 6.y.o.

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What I will say though is that the UniFi UI is waayyyy better and more informative than the ASUS UI.

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 11:02 AM

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I'll shit on anything Tuesday, for a hamburger today

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 11:02 AM

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Hey, I had a hamburger today.

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Well, patty melt. But meh.

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 11:02 AM

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@peak cloud well, you are comparing barely consumer worthy to something atleast three steps up

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 11:03 AM

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So what you're saying is that Ubiquiti is actually some good higher-level stuff for home networking?

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 11:03 AM

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For home, sure

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For enterprise, maybe if you are running a five man company

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 11:04 AM

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What do you run at your own home? This I am very curious about.

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My company has 10 or so employees. But we're not an IT company. Surely that matters.

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 11:07 AM

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You don't want to know

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But I work in IT and bring home stuff for free

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 11:08 AM

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So it's like $72,306 worth of networking equipment?

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 11:08 AM

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That isn't very far from the truth

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Probably add 20k to that

hushed basalt May 15, 2020, 11:17 AM

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That's also the yearly power cost in Australia

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 11:23 AM

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For running one RPI @hushed basalt

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@peak cloud I need to renew some stuff though

📎 JPEG_20200515_132359.jpg

hushed basalt May 15, 2020, 11:25 AM

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Where we're going we don't need secure mounting

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You should just fill a rack full of UPSs and use it to feed your house

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 11:27 AM

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Isn't that what Tesla is selling now?

wild grove May 15, 2020, 11:27 AM

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Powerwalls

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 11:34 AM

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Actually building that cloud lamp that was the whole reason I started with HA

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📎 JPEG_20200515_133444.jpg

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Remind me to never advise anyone to work with styrofoam cutting

hushed basalt May 15, 2020, 12:07 PM

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Looks like spray foam

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 12:08 PM

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Yeah the yellow one is

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Chose the white one instead

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I currently look like a Unicorn ejaculated in my garage

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:10 PM

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Depending on your definition of Unicorn, that could be a very good thing.

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 12:10 PM

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wtf

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:10 PM

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See: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Unicorn

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 12:11 PM

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You kinky bastard

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I'm just cute

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Don't judge me.

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I've "known what a unicorn was" for about 10 years or so.

scenic radish May 15, 2020, 12:13 PM

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@fading zodiac yes, master?

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Hahahaha, a little late to the party @scenic radish

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Dafuq happened here

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did you talk to @junior forge

scenic radish May 15, 2020, 12:13 PM

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I know lol

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Just woke up

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:13 PM

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OMFG STOP @fading zodiac

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:13 PM

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wat?

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:13 PM

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You rang my lord?

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:13 PM

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😂

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see?

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Frenck is enjoying time with his kiddos. Leave him alone!

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:14 PM

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@junior forge Enjoy!

low harness May 15, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Maybe you should remove your @ key?

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:14 PM

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That would be a problem emailing

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:14 PM

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@low harness Too bad we don't have a lawbot to go in and remove it for them.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:14 PM

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did you check my mailbot?

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or w/e it's called

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:14 PM

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@peak cloud https://giphy.com/gifs/wwe-raw-liveblogging-O3Towk20Ty704

Giphy

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Coffee is ready!

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You anywere near Utrecht?

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:15 PM

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"Ermuhgurd, that lawbot went against my constitutional rights!"

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 12:15 PM

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📎 JPEG_20200515_141536.jpg

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:15 PM

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@fading zodiac Nope, I live in Enschede

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Ah okay.

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I just saw the video of what happened there at 2000...

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Heavy stuff.

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Yeah that was not fun

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still a mark on our City, even today

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:16 PM

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@fading zodiac Haven't had a chance to check it out yet, but saw the PMs. Looks pretty good, except that it looks like it's based on direct messages instead of tags.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:16 PM

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For those who don't know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwZ6Lou3uN8

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Well

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A fireman release photos he took from the scene, which he never released

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he did now

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:17 PM

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I still can't get my head around the fact that for 1: Someone found it responsible to store that much in a liviing area.

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:17 PM

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📎 1024x576a.png

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:17 PM

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I've seen them

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Looks like a warzone

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it is , Dale

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:17 PM

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It was

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:17 PM

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But more amazingly

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that shockwave on it

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on the vid

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It feels odd that only the company was blamed and not anyone else. Sure, they fucked up bigtime but he had permits right?

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Someone gave those

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:18 PM

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That was 2 years and 3 days ago?

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:18 PM

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No

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2000

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:18 PM

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@peak cloud No 20 years

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:18 PM

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I was 5.

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:18 PM

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Oh, hah. Explains the potato quality.

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ELI5

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Someone had a fireworks storage

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in the middle of the city

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that went boom

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Check the YT vid

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Easy to see what happened there .

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Last boom was the one that caused what you see there.

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Still watching.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:20 PM

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And people still think its responsible to use that kind of fireworks.

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Jesus Christ.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:21 PM

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The guy you hear is the one that filmed it.

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Brave guy right there.

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20 people lost their lives that day.

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:22 PM

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Well that was a miracle

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:23 PM

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yES.

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The thing is, you see the start with the crowd

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:23 PM

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since it was a hot day, most people were outside and where able to flee the scene

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:23 PM

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And like 4 minutes later, that shed was gone.

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:23 PM

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Wow. 3:32 = insane.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:23 PM

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The last bang?

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:23 PM

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And that shockwave, wow.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:23 PM

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Yep.

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:23 PM

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really large area of the city center was wiped out

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:24 PM

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To this day i still don't know why it is that unknown.

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:24 PM

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"But did it crumbled two towers? 🙄 " (total sarcasm)

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:24 PM

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📎 1024x576a.png

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:24 PM

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Seriously, that's bad. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:25 PM

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https://nos.nl/artikel/2333770-nooit-vertoonde-foto-s-vuurwerkramp-schetsen-enschede-als-oorlogsgebied.html

Nooit vertoonde foto's vuurwerkramp schetsen Enschede als oorlogsge...

Honderden foto's van de eerste momenten na de vuurwerkramp komen nu uit een persoonlijk archief.

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^

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They evne brought one from eindhoven?

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📎 1024x576a.png

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:25 PM

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🤷‍♂️ 20 years ago... everybody remembers who lives here. Dark day. Everybody exactly know where they where at that day

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:26 PM

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In the rest of the country, nobody talks about it.

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Yes, last week , 20 years ago.

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:26 PM

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But just insane... like this is not terrorism

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Wow, that area is a lot bigger than it seemed in the video.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:26 PM

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And what amazes me the most: it is still not known what caused it.

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:26 PM

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but just a company storing large amounts of professional heavy grade fireworks in the city center, in the middle of housing area

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:27 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMkIsj8FsHw

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who do you blame Frenck?

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:28 PM

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@fading zodiac Our city, as who gives a permit to store heavy fireworks like that on that location. The discussion if they stored more than allowed doesn't matter to me.

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:28 PM

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We had a similar event in Texas on April 17 2013.

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Yeah, to me that's a government level issue (whether local or central is irrelevant)

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You shouldn't be allowing folks to store explosives in a residential area like that

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Oh, here: https://youtu.be/OMkIsj8FsHw?t=1376

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from that time

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 12:29 PM

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(or, shouldn't allow a residential area to approach a commercial area storing them)

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:29 PM

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airial shot

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Now just imagine if that were tannerite in that house instead of fireworks.

clever mortar May 15, 2020, 12:29 PM

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~links @fading zodiac

velvet horizonBOT May 15, 2020, 12:29 PM

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@fading zodiac You can disable link preview in Discord by adding < before and > after the URL, like this: <http://home-assistant.io/>

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:29 PM

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@junior forge I guess

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:30 PM

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If you're not familiar with "Tannerite," it's a binary explosive that is made with potassium nitrate and aluminum powder.

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:30 PM

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Nice shot @fading zodiac

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For the record, that is a residential area

peak cloud May 15, 2020, 12:30 PM

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The only thing that can ignite it is a high velocity rifle round.

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:30 PM

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I think it all have lead up to this. Wrong place to build it, storing to much and then not governed up to it.

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But it is unfair to only blame the company

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I'm going to watch the docu later today i think.

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What area is that Frenck? Do you have a maps url?

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:32 PM

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It is called the roombeek

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Looks fancy new

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You can just tell what was broken. Look at the new vs old on maps.

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:33 PM

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https://www.google.nl/maps/place/7523+JJ+Roombeek/@52.2312358,6.8910216,3a,75y,49.3h,84.8t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipMNgeFmi1qkzY6R46p8gjCXMflr1r4ZKsZQ1_ad!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMNgeFmi1qkzY6R46p8gjCXMflr1r4ZKsZQ1_ad%3Dw211-h120-k-no-pi-10-ya227.99998-ro-0-fo100!7i8704!8i4352!4m5!3m4!1s0x47b8140bd92c41d3:0x8febfff0f085b105!8m2!3d52.2292512!4d6.8941286

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Yeah everything has been rebuild of course

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:34 PM

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Did the peoiple get the houses?

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:34 PM

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Well it was the lesser income that lived there

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So new houses where built...

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some people returned, but it took a long time to rebuilt and... it is now a hot, fresh part of the city

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so houses became expensive

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live is unfair

fading zodiac May 15, 2020, 12:35 PM

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That's a second one ofcourse. Would you like to live at a place that has such memories

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To you*

junior forge May 15, 2020, 12:37 PM

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Dunno

clear ferry May 15, 2020, 1:15 PM

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So country is mostly open, but we are encouraged to not travel abroad until atleast the end of August