the-water-cooler

[fading zodiac]

for school

:p

[midnight adder]

well yeah good point

will do that during lucnh

[fading zodiac]

🙂

Hope it doesnt crash

@clear ferry Why are WD green's cheap?

[clear ferry]

because they are shite ? 🤣

[fading zodiac]

No but really

I've had this 1 TB WD green with 4 years power on time for 50 euro.

i bought it in like 2012 and it broke in 2018?

[clear ferry]

they are fine for offline storage probably, but not for anything prodution wise or performance wise

[fading zodiac]

Hmm yeh

i figured

[midnight adder]

loaded everything to the one drive of uni

1 tb free

so thats nice 🙂

[clear ferry]

hope you aren't storing it ONLY on the Onedrive

[hushed basalt]

I'm pretty sure new greens are SMR as well?

SMR 🤢

One of those techs that just shouldn't exist

@clear ferry do you ever manage LTO

[clear ferry]

Yes

[midnight adder]

hope you aren't storing it ONLY on the Onedrive
@clear ferry no just to back up next to it on my pc and nas at home

that should be enough 🙂

proud of me dad?

[clear ferry]

[fading zodiac]

I had a old green

Are the US people awake yet?

[clear ferry]

new york local time 04:57

los angeles local time 01:57

[fading zodiac]

Thank you, clock

[eager vortex]

That's a pretty efficient clock

[fading zodiac]

Yeh i say so

!clock

broken

[clear ferry]

I am still old enough to remember we could call a free number to hear what the clock was

last time I did that must have been.... 1996 maybe

[fading zodiac]

!clock

[hushed basalt]

In film and tv on proper productions they put everything on a pair of LTOs on set

I feel sorry for the intern who has to migrate LTO generations

[clear ferry]

LTO8 is nice good speed and storage space

[hushed basalt]

I'm still not a fan of cold tape for long term archival

In 15 years have fun getting working drives

[fading zodiac]

Just print the files

You know

use good paper.

[clear ferry]

that's not a problem in enterprise tbh @hushed basalt customers I have still have LTO3 drives around

[hushed basalt]

One page per byte

[fading zodiac]

no

Frame per page

[hushed basalt]

Single sided

[fading zodiac]

Yes

ofcourse

My mother used to work in a pharmacy. they had a on-site server. They removed the tape and set it home with 2 employees everyday

if there was a fire that night, it wouldnt be lost

[clear ferry]

atleast for the last 15 years norwegian pharmacies have been connected to a shared service that hosts data and storage for them

probably closer to 20 years

[fading zodiac]

fax?

[hushed basalt]

No that's Japan

[clear ferry]

last time I used a fax was in 2008

last time I saw a customer have it was probably around 2015

[fading zodiac]

remember when we spoke about upnp?

[clear ferry]

🤢

[fading zodiac]

sec

[hushed basalt]

I wonder what the TCO of tape vs aws deep glacier is

[clear ferry]

can't use AWS with military customers

so TCO is not interesting

or other secure sites

[fading zodiac]

my nas is reachable on my ip on port 65253

but i didnt open that

is that upnp?

[clear ferry]

probably ?

a service on the NAS uses upnp to open the port

[fading zodiac]

What vpn would you pic? PPTP, OpenVPN or L2TP/ipsec?

[clear ferry]

highport like that, probably something that uses udp

wireguard

[fading zodiac]

?

[light trout]

!

[fading zodiac]

~

[clear ferry]

ÆØÅ

[fading zodiac]

I might put another VM with pfsense on it or so

i have no clue yet.

[velvet horizon]

:point_up: Let me Google that for you...

Here , try this:
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=wireguard

Command '.lmgtfy' was invoked by: Ludeeus

[clear ferry]

go OPNsense then

[fading zodiac]

My knowledge is 0

on this

[clear ferry]

virtualized routers are fine and fun, but I prefer hardware routers, unless you know how to secure your network pipes over virtualized networking

[fading zodiac]

In my country they use routers from the ISP

[clear ferry]

most users do, in all countries

[fading zodiac]

but we get TV and ETH and phone bundled

on vlan

with the router.

There is not a seperate modem involved.

[clear ferry]

we do do, but I just streched a VLAN with the internet connection to the TV box

so my TV box goes to the internet directly, while all other hosts go through my OPNsense router

because IGMP is a PITA to route

especially when they use both v2 and v3

[fading zodiac]

I don't have the cash for a router

nor do i have the patience and knowledge to sort it all out

I just want a VPN server on the nas so i can get in my network from anywere

[clear ferry]

then you don't need a virtualized router either

just run wireguard and terminate the connection on the inside of your network 🤢

[fading zodiac]

Heh

https://github.com/runfalk/synology-wireguard

[hushed basalt]

I need to set up a virtual router

[fading zodiac]

Is it usefull to put it in a VM?

[hushed basalt]

I don't want to spend $400 on a opnsense box

[clear ferry]

I spent $130 from china, it's good enough for my networking needs

[fading zodiac]

Or use the HA addon :o?

[clear ferry]

🤢

addons 🤢

[fading zodiac]

WEll

How would you set it up 😂

[clear ferry]

on my router 🤣

[fading zodiac]

😂

[clear ferry]

and terminate the connection on the edge

[fading zodiac]

Your horribly not-usefull

But , in my setup

I have the DS218+ with 10 gb of ram.

HA on a VM

Would you put the wireguard in another VM or put it on HA ?

[clear ferry]

would be equally horrible in my mind

🤣

[grave bay]

I have an ask - which is probably like asking about religion. I currently have a ton of RF devices to control lights (example https://www.trust.com/en/product/71015-built-in-switch-acm-1000). They are okay and (at the time of choice) mostly cheap. As it is purely RF they are also pretty dumb. Signals are send fire-and-forget and no on/off status is reportable (other than by the device who sent the signal, which is not based on status but only based on 'signal was sent'). I have a chance to now switch to something smarter - which way to go?

[fading zodiac]

NO RELIGION

!

[grave bay]

I try not to google because the only thing I find is sponsored posts

[clear ferry]

@grave bay sounds like #hardware-archived

[fading zodiac]

Zigbee

😂

[grave bay]

@clear ferry oh thanks, wasn't sure

[fading zodiac]

You know, it would be usefull to be able to move messages

[clear ferry]

it would be useful to move you

[fading zodiac]

You want to move with me <3?

[clear ferry]

🤢

[fading zodiac]

😦

[clear ferry]

@hushed basalt jc, k8s is very simple, I thought it was very complex handling, but it's just replicas in the end

if you understand storage replicas it's just... business as usual

and the pod business is just, grouping really

[green inlet]

Thank you @last dirge

[clear ferry]

no thank you @green inlet

[fading zodiac]

!clock

[clear ferry]

btw @fading zodiac BRIAN IS MUURICAN

[fading zodiac]

BRIAN

Who?

which one?

[clear ferry]

the active one

[fading zodiac]

brien?

o.o

[green inlet]

Me

[fading zodiac]

I'm going to pm you 😄

[midnight adder]

!clock

!puke

[velvet horizon]

You can find his config lurking in the darkness.

Command '.atxbyea' was invoked by: atxbyea

[clear ferry]

[midnight adder]

my guy atx hows your experience with yeelight

[hushed basalt]

How are you running the master nodes

Stacked with etcd?

[fading zodiac]

TIL: Us people dont use DHL

[green inlet]

What kind of mass world 🤢 are you into today atx?

[midnight adder]

fedex 😛

[green inlet]

And UPS

Rarely see UPS anymore though

[clear ferry]

not running it yet @hushed basalt just doing the training videos

[midnight adder]

bought this lamp 😛

[clear ferry]

@midnight adder they work fine, I don't do much with them, just circadian lighting

[midnight adder]

what is circadian lighting

🤔

[hushed basalt]

Circus lights

I'll see myself out

[clear ferry]

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/circadian-lighting-custom-component/61246

all my lights do that

[midnight adder]

doesnt that consume loads of power

[hushed basalt]

I wish I went with more cct instead rgb

[midnight adder]

as they are on 24/7

[green inlet]

It’s something developed by the new generation, along with all these diagnoses, to make you spend money

[clear ferry]

only in rooms with occupancy

[midnight adder]

what about bedrooms

[hushed basalt]

You would only use it the same way you would use normal lights

[clear ferry]

lights in the bedroom are at 1% all the time

[fading zodiac]

I like that

[hushed basalt]

You don't have to have all your lights on. Just have the lights that are on at the sky colour temp

What colour do they go after the sun sets

[midnight adder]

this i guess

[hushed basalt]

I think I will end up getting rid of these tuya lights when I get my own house

The sun is above the horizon in all of those

Tuya lights with esphome is not a very good experience

I don't know if the culprit is tuya, esphome or homeassistant but it's very poor

[green inlet]

For me, home assistant has been very fast lately. There used to be a noticeable difference between actions. Now, they seem to be almost simultaneous.

[clear ferry]

blame ludeeus

[light trout]

always

[hushed basalt]

You must be using the premium trial

Your credit card will be charged after your 7 day trial. Only $50/user/month. Charged annually.

[hearty depot]

Only issue I got with Circadian Lighting that it takes the state of the sun and not my night/day scedule.

[fading zodiac]

is there us people yet?

[misty garden]

this might be a really stupid question, but i'm running Home assistant core in docker, and i'm really curious about the pros and cons between home assistant and home assistant core?

[fading zodiac]

PickYourStick

[clever mortar]

I really need to make this a bot command, it's coming up multiple times a day

[fading zodiac]

Yes

[clever mortar]

TL/DR: Use what works for you

[misty garden]

Sorry if it's been asked before

[fading zodiac]

😂

[clever mortar]

It's fine, just amusing how it's suddenly become a hot topic

[fading zodiac]

https://www.home-assistant.io/faq/ha-vs-hassio/

[misty garden]

i like the way i have it, but all those add ons in Hassio seem super easy

[light trout]

If you are a lazy f*** like me go with Home Assistant, if you want some more controll, or do custom changes to the image go with core

[misty garden]

https://www.home-assistant.io/faq/ha-vs-hassio/
@fading zodiac thanks

[fading zodiac]

What ludeeus says

[light trout]

.links @misty garden @fading zodiac

[velvet horizon]

@misty garden @fading zodiac You can disable link preview in Discord by adding < before and > after the URL, like this: <http://home-assistant.io/>

Command '.links' was invoked by: Ludeeus

[fading zodiac]

I wanted the screen go blue.

[misty garden]

sorry, new to discord

[clever mortar]

Also @misty garden - quoting folks like that can become obnoxious fast - as you just saw 😂

I've seen channels vanish under 10+ line quotes...

The summary by @light trout is right though:
Home Assistant - I'm lazy
Other - I want control

[misty garden]

sorry, i was just trying to reply like in whats app lol

[light trout]

.irc @clever mortar

[velvet horizon]

@clever mortar Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.

Command '.irc' was invoked by: Ludeeus

[light trout]

😄

[clever mortar]

Yeah, Discord screwed up there @light trout 😛

[misty garden]

oh ok! Sorry, i get it now

[grave pecan]

Gonna get started with home assistant today. What's the recommended installation approach? I see I can run it containerized but I can also run it natively on my raspberry pi?

[clever mortar]

😂

Scroll up, have a read 😉

[clear ferry]

[misty garden]

ok i have one more q, is duckdns reliable? i see a lot of guides on how to set that up

[clever mortar]

Mostly

It's just a hostname to IP resolution service though, the real question is whether your ISP is reliable 😛

[misty garden]

i saw it all go down a week or 2 ago, so i was wondering whether that happens often

[clear ferry]

I've run dyndns for 20 years

I have never had downtime

so compared to that

it is unreliable 🤣

[clever mortar]

I use my own domain and Route53... never had an outage

[misty garden]

thats a paid service right?

[clear ferry]

I did start paying at some point, probably 2005\6

it was free before that

[clever mortar]

I pay something like $0.50/month

The cost is irrelevant

[fading zodiac]

This is hilarious

I wonder if Nibbler is a troll

[misty garden]

yeah, you're right

[clear ferry]

I think I paid 10-15 usd at some point, I don't bother keeping tabs on it anymore

[clever mortar]

The domain registration for my blog costs more than my domain registration and DNS for my personal domain 😄

[clear ferry]

yeah, I've had my domain for 20ish years too, was a friend who started one of norways first hosting DNS companies, so I had it free for 12 years 🤣

when he sold his company I had to start paying for it

[misty garden]

what do u guys do about getting devices in your countries?

they dont sell anything over here

[clear ferry]

I order 99% of my stuff from china

[misty garden]

i wish i could just buy everything on amazon and be like, this isnt the right thing, then return it

[fading zodiac]

PickStick

[clear ferry]

since I pay $1 for a ESP board from china, I frankly don't care if I don't use it

[clever mortar]

Start by looking at the integrations/devices supported by your existing integrations 😉

[clear ferry]

I probably order 100-200 orders per year

[misty garden]

now its like i have to do a lot of research, then wait 2 months for the thing to come and find out its the wrong thing

[clear ferry]

returning isn't really an issue 🤣

[misty garden]

or i buy 4 diff things

[clear ferry]

I always find some use for something

[misty garden]

when u say china, you mean aliexpress and gearbest?

[clear ferry]

aliexpress

or wish sometimes

[misty garden]

ok thanks

[midnight adder]

I order 99% of my stuff from china
@clear ferry HDD from china

[clever mortar]

It comes pre-installed with malware 👍

[clear ferry]

I have ordered one storage device from china, was SSD in my mini computer

works fine so far

I know @strange vapor had some issues with his at some point

[clever mortar]

I know a few folks who've got something other than what they ordered, the usual 8 GB flash drive in a 500 GB SSD case fun

Seems to be pretty rare though

[clear ferry]

Yeah, the 3TB flash drives on wish... sounds suspicious

this is just a 64GB drive in a m2 form factor

Nagged my boss for some new rack servers in my garage

let's see what she comes up with 🤣

[clever mortar]

😂

Damn, I hate you right now 😛

[clear ferry]

I was hoping my mini-itx would be enough for my vsphere7 lab, but I need atleast one more with 64GB RAM or something

just right now ?

what about the rest of the year ?

[clever mortar]

Eh, depends on where I'm visiting

Sometimes work sends me nice places and I get time to see the sites

Sometimes I get to visit Slough...

[strange vapor]

@clear ferry The unbranded mSATA SSD that came with it just failed after a few months. Have a Crucial one in there now which seems to be surviving happily

[clear ferry]

like my garage ? 🤔

so far over a year here @strange vapor

[midnight adder]

I have ordered one storage device from china, was SSD in my mini computer
@clear ferry i ordered my 'gaming mouse and headset

in china

in the meanwhile i bought new proper stuff

[clear ferry]

gaming mouse 🤢

[midnight adder]

i never buy that crap anymore in china 😄

i need it for the DPI in hass

[clear ferry]

JC, it's 20c outside, and probably 30 in my office 🤣

or more

[midnight adder]

the gaming mouse from china was probably that disgusting that somebody could eat from it for a whole day

[clear ferry]

🤔

[clever mortar]

You need AC in your office 😛

Or to stop measuring the temperature in freedom units

[midnight adder]

look at this badboi

[clear ferry]

I have AC in the upstairs areas, but I let my wife have her door open, and mine closed, because I can stand the temp, she can't, and she doesn't have to listen to my conf calls 🤣

[midnight adder]

with this

man i could lit up my whole room with the amount of light from that thing

[clever mortar]

Glowing LED mice and headphones... why

[clear ferry]

you are the epitome of basic bitch, just for gamers 🤔

[midnight adder]

i got proper headset and mice now

hyper x cloud 2 and logitech g305

[last dirge]

it's hard to find decent headphones with a mic that don't have LEDs

[midnight adder]

hyperx cloud 2 apparently

[clever mortar]

Bose or Sony non-gaming headsets 😉

[clear ferry]

the 305 looks horrible ergonomically, like my travel mouse

[midnight adder]

i use mx master 3 for daily driver

[last dirge]

I got some Corsair headphones but I can turn the LEDs off

[clear ferry]

mic in front of my face 🤢

bose 👍

[last dirge]

my bose suck a D over bluetooth

[clear ferry]

never had issues

[last dirge]

when using the mic?

[clear ferry]

yeah

I'm in conf calls for 10 hours every week probably

[midnight adder]

not in front of face lol

[last dirge]

anything else on my system that makes noise pulls audio focus for 15 seconds

[clear ferry]

you nasty 🤢

[midnight adder]

if this is nasty already

ooooooof

[clear ferry]

even when I'm in DCs with close to a thousand servers nobody complains about my audio @last dirge

the BOSE just keeps on giving

[last dirge]

what headphones?

mine are QC35 I think

[clear ferry]

QC35 II

Had the QC 20's before

[last dirge]

what conference call software?

both Zoom and Teams have the audio problem

[clear ferry]

Teams \ Skype \ Phone calls

[last dirge]

do you have Bose software installed on your computer?

[clear ferry]

Nope

[last dirge]

Win 10?

[clear ferry]

Yes

[last dirge]

what the shit

intel bluetoof?

[clear ferry]

never had anyone complain about my audio

[scenic radish]

WHAT THE F???

https://youtu.be/DCsMXYgLXqs

[last dirge]

odd stare into camera

[clear ferry]

Intel Wireless Bluetooth, Firmware HCI 8.256 / LMP 8.256 HWID - USB\VID_8087&PID_0A2B&REV_0001

[last dirge]

where'd you get that?

I've got the same firmware

[clear ferry]

From Device manager

[last dirge]

I don't see that last bit anywhere

[clear ferry]

You newb 🤣

Details -> Hardware ID

[last dirge]

mine's got 2 values

[clear ferry]

Yes, that is how hardware IDs work, in bus flow

[last dirge]

one with the revision on the end, one without

[clear ferry]

As expected

[hushed basalt]

I got a mic for my headphones today actually

It mounts/plugs into the 3.5mm with a combined cable

[clear ferry]

🤢

[hushed basalt]

So I can plug it into my phone/laptop and used wired connection. Bluetooth two way audio is 🤢

Hot garbage 🤢 🔥 💩

[wet pilot]

finally online again 🎉

[clear ferry]

oh shiiit

hide everyone

the phoenix has risen

[wet pilot]

haha

[clever mortar]

That's ok, somebody with a back-hoe will take the cable out more effectively

[wet pilot]

down for almost 4 full days. would still be down if i didn't switch providers

lol yeah, the new one is above ground but its a bright orange cable with tons of flags

[clever mortar]

So... should last a week?

[wet pilot]

hopefully long enough for them to come out and do it properly

its mostly on my lawn this time instead of going across multiple houses

[dire geyser]

hi can I get some help?

I have a Tenda("Chinese") outdoor wifi router I am using as a "switch" (AP and client bridge mode).
Can I use iptables to block these devices from the internet using mac address?
related question, is it acceptable to set smart plug to static dhcp with wrong gateway to prevent it from reporting back to the cloud?

[rare condor]

Its my Birthday in 1 minute 😄

[hushed basalt]

Stay young

[rare condor]

🎉

Damn I failed I got older

[hushed basalt]

Happy cAke day

[rare condor]

thanks

[hushed basalt]

Isolation fun! Wooh

[rare condor]

Well yes and no.

[velvet horizon]

@rare condor posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GVtbjBWtBj/

[clear ferry]

That schedule looked borderline diagnostic

[rare condor]

Its kind of necessary when managing an online gaming session when half people own macbooks and can't play and many people are unsure of what it entails

I tried to make it fun

[clear ferry]

Managing other people 🤢

[midnight adder]

managing yourself

[rare condor]

meh, it still allows me to catch my friends and have a good time, so I am inclined

[clear ferry]

Friends 🤢

[hushed basalt]

Should be 9PM Sleep

Some of us have to wake up at 5am

[clear ferry]

My daughter didn't sleep in kindergarten today @hushed basalt

This might get interesting

Then again she sleeps from 20-07 these days

[midnight adder]

hammer is always the solution @clear ferry

[clear ferry]

To managing other people? I agree

[hushed basalt]

If a baby cries but the baby monitor is off, did they really cry

[rare condor]

Schrödinger's Baby???

[hushed basalt]

Observing will also change the state

[wet pilot]

depends on how well the room is sound proofed 😛

we replaced the carpet in the baby's room with hardwoods to help with the scum factor but that had the unintended consequence of making her tantrums louder

[clear ferry]

My daughter is heard throughout the house when she wants to

[hushed basalt]

Weathersealing doors helps a lot

[wet pilot]

gotta be careful with that with central air though

[hushed basalt]

Yeah ducting is the worst

You really need air transfer vents though

Relying on a poorly fitted doorframe/door for return air, you're gonna have a bad time

[scenic radish]

there would be no way for me to put a jump duct in the master bedroom so i'm kind of bummed about that

[scenic radish]

i could use one of those "perfect balance return air pathways" that go in your door but i don't wanna do that

but i just might

[hushed basalt]

I bet you 100 dropbear dollars that if I spoke to 10 builders/ airconditioner installers about air transfer vents they would look at me like I'm speaking elvish

9/10 of them at least *

[scenic radish]

"just undercut the door, lulz"

[hushed basalt]

You don't need "perfect balance"

You just need the restriction of the vent to not be greater than the amount of air coming into the room

So err on the side of bigger and you'll be fine

[wet pilot]

variable rate blowers and compressors help with that a lot these days

[last dirge]

your mom's a variable rate blower

[hushed basalt]

Air still has to get out of the room

[amber bramble]

just got a water softener installed, now i need to figure out how to reverse engineer the app to get the data into HA

[wet pilot]

ours just has a dumb timer sadly

[last dirge]

I've got returns in pretty much every room

[wet pilot]

probably a ton of data available there

[last dirge]

so yay

[wet pilot]

nice. We have a return in our MBR but then just one additional per floor after that

[hushed basalt]

I've never seen any sort of return/transfer vents in any home I've been in

[last dirge]

the system design is still pretty shit

but what are you gonna do

[hushed basalt]

It's always always always a central return in the hallway

[wet pilot]

that's cool for the downstairs as its wide open but the bedrooms definitely have back pressure

[amber bramble]

the app can pull the flow rate in gallons per minute, total gallons used per day, total gallons left before regeneration, and a few other things

[hushed basalt]

Australians can't build buildings

[last plaza]

Returns are building codes in the USA.

[amber bramble]

i only have 1 return in our hallway

[last dirge]

I've got one in every bedroom

[hushed basalt]

Hahaha. Building codes. Australia

[last plaza]

Every room has to have one.

[amber bramble]

the hvac will pull the doors to the bedrooms shut when the blower kicks up to stage 2

[last dirge]

then a few more elsewhere

[hushed basalt]

Builders here don't even know what blower door testing is

[wet pilot]

@last plaza register != return

[last plaza]

Register?

[wet pilot]

the output

[last dirge]

@last plaza lives in the land where they put registers in the floor

[last plaza]

No, there is an in take and and then there is a return for air circulation

[wet pilot]

return is the intake

[hushed basalt]

If I was building I'd just go with splits

[scenic radish]

but muh aesthetics

[hushed basalt]

No ductwork in a 60 degree ceiling cavity. Balanced.

[last plaza]

In plain English, we have two - one is where the heat/cold air comes into the room. Another is where the air goes back into HVAC

[hushed basalt]

But mah backpressure and air pollution

And exorbitant running costs

[last plaza]

That’s how the pressure is maintained

The HVAC unit pulls fresh air from outside as well as vent Out

[hushed basalt]

Split systems are nice if they're positioned properly and don't have blinding LEDs

[scenic radish]

LEDeez Nuts

[hushed basalt]

That sounds like a HRV

Seriously, who designs a product and goes "Okay so this is going to be mounted on the wall in someones bedroom while they sleep.... Johnson what are your product ideas"

"BrIghT bLue anD GreEn bLinKinG LEDs"

https://media.tenor.com/images/6a8d1bc26144d1beefad98409c296bfb/tenor.gif

[scenic radish]

RGB minisplit or nothing

[hushed basalt]

Now with bonus xenon spots

[scenic radish]

and voice notifications

COOLING IS NOW IDLE

COOLING HAS INITIATED

with optional verbose mode

WASH THE FILTER YOU LAZY BITCH

[hushed basalt]

https://media.tenor.com/images/f0070855bbf9e102f426d83890c9f791/tenor.gif

This is what split systems look like at 2am

Bulkhead splits are nice. But luxury

[last dirge]

forced air FTW

[hushed basalt]

Forced air?

[last dirge]

yeah, central HVAC

unless you live in a crackerbox, splits are dumb

[hushed basalt]

Why

They use a fraction of the energy and you don't have to balance room returns

[last dirge]

because for my house I'd need at least 7

cool, 7 condensors

seems efficient

[hushed basalt]

You can have minisplits run off outdoor units

Plus that's a lot of ductwork in a vented attic

There's a reason a lot of high efficiency homes use splits

[scenic radish]

reminds me for some reason, does anyone here still like CDs?

[last dirge]

@hushed basalt insulation and triple-glazed windows has more to do with it than minisplits

[hushed basalt]

What is your attic temperature like

And is it airtight

Insulation and glazing have nothig to do with split vs ducted

[last dirge]

attic temperature is usually within 10 degrees of ambient

insulation and glazing have everything to do with "high efficiency"

ESPECIALLY if they subscribe to the BOFA method of efficiency

[hushed basalt]

You're completely missing the point

All things being equal, a split system is far more efficient than ducted

[last dirge]

depends on how you're defining efficiency

and for the types of houses I like, they'd be horrible

my main floor is essentially one big room

close to 1200 square feet

[scenic radish]

your main floor is bigger than my condo 😔

[last dirge]

and it's open to my second floor via a 2-story foyer

so I'd have to have a split in the hallway upstairs, plus at least 2 downstairs just for that

then one for each bedroom

another for the master ensuite

[amber bramble]

yay whole house water shutoff valve works 😀

[last dirge]

@scenic radish I'm pretty sure my master suite is bigger than your condo 🙂

[scenic radish]

[last dirge]

@amber bramble hoorah for not flooding the joint

[scenic radish]

i can't complain though. they fit 2 full bathrooms in this place

and the master bath has a big soaking tub that makes a nice shower space

[last dirge]

haha

imagine standing in the tub to shower 😉

[scenic radish]

#the-water-cooler message

[last plaza]

@wet pilot these are returns we have them in each room.

These are registers in every room as well for cold and hot air.

[wet pilot]

must be a local code thing then, we definitely don't have those here

or a house builder who doesn't cut every possible corner at least 😄

[last plaza]

Yup. It is a building code here. When we finished basement around 15 years ago, we have rooms and full bathroom in there. They all have them as well.

We have extra returns near foyer area as a matter of fact.

[wet pilot]

this house has 3 returns. 2x 20"x20" and 1 14"x14" in the mbr

[last dirge]

floor registers 🤢

[last plaza]

Not all are at floor level. Most of them are close to ceiling.

The picture I showed is an exception. It is in a weird place in the hallway that turns into foyer space.

[amber bramble]

my entire house is floor vents 😦

i hate them

especially with small children lol

[last dirge]

or dogs

[amber bramble]

yes

[last dirge]

"great, the dog crapped in the vent"

[last plaza]

Yes, when our kids were toddlers, they used to drop everything in it.

There is a metal mesh that holds onto all the junk, and makes it easier to vacuum.

@last dirge this is worst!

[last dirge]

that's why my roborocks aren't scheduled

[last plaza]

It actually happened to my buddy a few months ago. He is obviously not very happy about it. 😂

[amber bramble]

oh man

i don't have my roborock scheduled either but thats more because my floors are covered with baby toys and small child socks and other goodies that my kids leave out for it to gladly eat

[last plaza]

Yup

[last dirge]

mine gets confused if the dogs move a bed

or leave a toy somewhere

especially if it can't be picked up by its LIDAR

it's like "I can't see anything in my way so I'm going to keep trying"

[dull belfry]

Dashboard tablet Nexus 2012 tape mounted 🤣

It's quite slow I must say

What is a proper way to wallmount this prehistorical tablet

[wet pilot]

3m tape and dreams

[last dirge]

https://www.cribbstechnologies.com/index.php/home-assistant/home-assistant-floorplan/

[clever mortar]

2012... that one has the magnetic Qi charging magic

You could recess one of those in the wall

[dull belfry]

Thanks for the suggestion

I should get another tablet I suppose. The UI is quite slow

[scenic radish]

i believe the 2013 also has Qi charging

and i have a 2013

[dull belfry]

Would flashing a custom rom improve performance?

[scenic radish]

this gives me ideas 🤔

[last dirge]

apple in 2019: WE CREATED WIRELESS CHARGING!

[dull belfry]

Heck, there is not even android webview on this device

[amber bramble]

me and wireshark are going to become friends later

[clear ferry]

I remember having wireless charging on my Palm Pre 2

That was in 2009

It was awesome when I got work calls in the middle of the night

[last plaza]

I still have HP Jornada. I got it for $600 in 2000. Battery is dead. It has windows CE on it 😊

[clear ferry]

[last plaza]

It was a hell lot of money for a palm pc those days.

[clear ferry]

I remember buying a used cd burner in 98 for $300

[last plaza]

lol

[clear ferry]

It had a halfway broken laser

So every 3 CDs were a bust

And when every cd cost $20

[last plaza]

Yup. Writable CDs.

[clear ferry]

But I sold copies of word and windows to make a profit

[last plaza]

The burner craps out middle of burning CD, and it is a toaster!

Piracy you mean! You were a bootlegger?

Add that to@your qualifications in your github repo 😛

[clear ferry]

We didn't have DIO at the time, so I tried not moving my mouse while burning, or else it would crap out

[last plaza]

Oh, I remember those days!

[clear ferry]

And trying to play winamp while burning usually resulted in choppy audio and failed cds

[last plaza]

I still have those old Winamp software.

[clear ferry]

Atleast before I got a CPU with MMX

[last plaza]

lol. Love Winamp! You can condense it into a thin bar!

[clear ferry]

It really whips the llamas ass

[last plaza]

I think I uploaded windows 3.1 to my github repo. I may still have it there.

[clear ferry]

Lol

Im calling bill gates

[last plaza]

You can run it on RPi

[clear ferry]

He's going to be furious

[last plaza]

🤣

[clear ferry]

[last plaza]

I think he was one of the original authors for MS DOS. After that, he didn’t code.

[clear ferry]

Windows 10 supports arm, so I'm guessing more and more arm desktops will arrive the next few years

[last plaza]

He got busy making billions. Never had to code.

I hope so.

[clear ferry]

We can stuff 40 arm desktops into 4U

So quite a lot of them in a 42 U rack

[last plaza]

Cool

[clear ferry]

HPE moonshot, cool product

[last plaza]

You can hav your own azure at home.

[clear ferry]

I've had my own cloud at home for years, I just powered off my blade enclosure last year

[last plaza]

Which home cloud do you use? Any specific software?

[clear ferry]

And now I regret it, so I've nagged my boss for 2x1u servers

[last plaza]

lol

[clear ferry]

Esxi cluster, with me as the cloud

[last plaza]

Oh, I got the same. VSphere.

[clear ferry]

Had 80ish vms at some point doing stuff for work and collegues

[last plaza]

I setup vms to run specific software that doesn’t run on newer versions. Then I tear them down.

[clear ferry]

But now I need to learn vRealize, NSX, vCloud, VSAN and kubernetes, so I need more hardware

[last plaza]

I got 5 hosts. Good enough for now.

What are you doing with K8? I did training on it a couple of years ago

[clear ferry]

2x hosts with 48c/256GB/10G should carry me far

[last plaza]

Yup

[clear ferry]

Vsphere 7 includes native kubernetes

So I'll probably see a lot of it

[last plaza]

Yeah. K8 cluster administration?

[clear ferry]

The whole shebang

It orchestrates it

[last plaza]

Yep. That would be cool!

That’s a marketable skill these days for sure!

Not Windows Administration 😝

[clear ferry]

I already am the only one who works with 13 products, why not add a few more

[last plaza]

More 💰

[clear ferry]

I can has more?

https://media.tenor.com/images/525f61a1141d3ca7d34926efc6831078/tenor.gif

[last plaza]

Just have to ask for it.

[clear ferry]

I did last year, I should try my luck again this year

[last plaza]

Try hard next time! 😝

[clear ferry]

But I got 20% last time

[last plaza]

Not bad!

[clear ferry]

I should ask harder next time then

Got it

[last plaza]

🍿

[clear ferry]

[dull belfry]

Just flashed cyanogenmod (Android 7.1.2) performance is amazing on this old 2012 Nexus! 😄

Anybody else happens to use their Google home speaker trough Bluetooth connection?

I'm experiencing random disconnects every once in a while......

[scenic radish]

known issue

[dull belfry]

If only I could configure casting on moode player by default

[scenic radish]

@last plaza baby drones should be arriving in about a week lol

[dull belfry]

I'm afraid to break stuff when it comes to configuring audio devices on Linux

[last plaza]

@scenic radish wow! That’s fast! I should be getting them too.

[scenic radish]

i must have gotten one of the last sets too because i sent the link to my brother and he said it was out of stock

[last dirge]

bay---be drone

do doo do doo doo doo

[scenic radish]

WIRESHARK DO DO DODODO DO

[last dirge]

sales guy on the call today: "we should know if the client has chosen us for this contract in a week and a half. After that we've got 90 days to implementation"

everybody else on the calll:

me: did you just say we have 90 days before this software that hasn't even begun to being written has to be production ready?

sales guy: is that going to be a problem?

[clear ferry]

Android 7? How is life in 2015?

[last plaza]

Yep. The products on meh.com gets sold quickly.

As the sales guy if that 90 days are dog days or human days. Depending on what he thinks, you may even have a short period to do the shit.

I don’t understand how people think software can be developed overnight.

[last dirge]

"well this other company's going to win the bid"

me: okay?

[last plaza]

lol

[last dirge]

also the sales team: no, we won't pay to develop software that's not being asked for by customers

[last plaza]

lmao

[last dirge]

it's asinine

[last plaza]

you are being kind!

[last dirge]

at least this time they consulted "IT" before they wrote a contract

[last plaza]

it never gets old. See that all the time!

[last dirge]

I looked at the RFP

"hey, did anyone else notice in here it explicitly states that the client will own the database?"

[last plaza]

🤣

[last dirge]

"we were just going to use our operational DB"

cool

and the company's in China

[last plaza]

gets even better!

[last dirge]

so I ask "how are we getting infrastructure there?"

[last plaza]

I am laughing out loud here! 😂😂😂

[last dirge]

they said "oh, we'll deploy everything at our datacenter in Houston"

cool, so backhauling data halfway around the world? that'll impress the customer with our speed

[last plaza]

oh boy!

[last dirge]

"the RFP also says we have to write something to integrate with WeChat. I looked into that and to get a developer account you have to have governmental approval. Who's looking into that?"

blank stares

[last plaza]

lmao. Assuming they have an api.

[last dirge]

there's apparently "mini apps" that plug into WeChat

but that requires a web API

[last plaza]

Of course, you need approval from govt for everything

[last dirge]

so I ask "anybody know what mechanism that uses for authorization?"

blank stares

cool, cool

[last plaza]

You should ask for more money while you are at it.

Clearly they don’t know shit

[last dirge]

the sales guy was like "we're thinking of using this SaaS provider for this function" and draws a circle on some flow charts

so I ask if they can do some of the functions that are in his circle

"well no, but we can pay them to develop those"

"in 90 days?"

"well, I don't know their capacity"

cool, let's plan around guesses

[last plaza]

😂

[last dirge]

if it weren't for the rona I'd be considering GTFO

[last plaza]

I hear you! It is only a matter of time.

[last dirge]

I've been 100% remote for five and a half years

[last plaza]

I got meetings on my calendar for December with Skype only meetings. I am guessing 2020 is a WFH year.

[last dirge]

heh

I think a lot of places are going to realize that if people work from home they don't have to have leases for office space and even if people are less productive, they'll still come out ahead

but I also think that a lot of people that are new to working from home won't properly set boundaries and will work MORE than if they were in an office

[last plaza]

Yep. Our productivity certainly increased- folks don’t even take vacation and work longer hours without breaks

but I also think that a lot of people that are new to working from home won't properly set boundaries and will work MORE than if they were in an office
@last dirge well said!

[last dirge]

I did at first

[last plaza]

Experience speaks.

[last dirge]

then I realized I was needlessly filling 40 hours when I could complete all of my work in about 23

so I adjusted

far less stress, still higher output than was expected

[last plaza]

We will slowly ease into the next phase

[forest edge]

there is no next phase, only the next virus!

earthvid-19

[scenic radish]

i'm gonna use this time of me working from home as a bargaining chip to be able to do it more

[last plaza]

Covid<insert year>

[scenic radish]

i've been as productive, if not more, working from home

[last plaza]

If you can be equally productive by WFH, why go to work and cost resources?

[light trout]

Ahhhhhh, som since it started last year, that's where the 19 cames from

[scenic radish]

might even be so bold as to suggest a solution to us being almost at 100% capacity as far as desks: rotating WFH schedule where you share a desk with one other person

(since they probably won't go for full time WFH)

[last plaza]

I’ve heard TCS is going to WFH 80% by 2025.

Out of 4 million employees. Most big companies will do the same.

I’d say companies don’t need to assign desks. Make all desks a “hotel” desks - where people come and go.

Only keep a handful of them and let folks book for them. Like people do for conference rooms.

[scenic radish]

yup

[last dirge]

the place I work the whole IT floor is hoteling

except one guy

he's deaf so he's got an assigned desk

so he doesn't have to carry all of his adaptive shit around

plus he has to sit where he can see the visual indicators for the fire alarm

there's a row of lockers where everybody puts their personal stuff and everybody's got the same laptop so all of the desks have dual monitors and a USB docking station

[last plaza]

It is definitely changing the landscape for sure! We just have to wait and see.

[last dirge]

it's been like that as long as I've worked for them

[last plaza]

Next time I go to work, I am bringing my chair and big ass 4k monitor 😎

[last dirge]

people just find a desk, do something with the IP phone and it routes their calls to wherever they're sitting

[forest edge]

starts out WFH then ends up being VR where you get into your VR car and drive to work..

[last plaza]

That’s a neat idea. Get everyone a VR goggles and have virtual meetings.

[last dirge]

at a place I used to work we had a telepresence robot

it was a little self-balancing robot with a stick that held an iPad

[last plaza]

We’ve forwarded physical mail and voice mails to our cell phones already

[forest edge]

VR cause they deemed being at home as unhealthy so to counter it they do VR to make you think your leaving your house lol

[last dirge]

so you could drive it around to meetings

[last plaza]

Cool

[last dirge]

they upgraded it after I left to where it could communicate with the elevators

so you could call an elevator drive it on the elevator, choose a floor, drive it off and go to a meeting on a different floor

[last plaza]

I wonder how people will maintain social distancing in elevators.

[last dirge]

you ever get on an elevator and stay facing the inside?

[scenic radish]

We’ve forwarded physical mail and voice mails to our cell phones already
@last plaza how do you forward physical mail to your phone?!

[last plaza]

We have those elevator touch screens here as well. We have to select the floor before you get into the elevator. There are no controls in the elevator whatsoever.

Physical mail to our home address and voice mails to my cell @scenic radish

🤣

I meant to say there is nothing waiting for me when I go to office.

[scenic radish]

ah, i thought this was some next-level shit i hadn't heard of

yeah i knew what you meant lol

[last plaza]

Like the USPS, they scan and send emails?

[scenic radish]

muh privacy

will they scan every page of my playboy mags?

[forest edge]

don't you mean Playdough?

[last plaza]

sure, if you work at playboy mansion

[scenic radish]

or every page of @forest edge 's emoji pr0n mags?

[last plaza]

If you work for Hugh huffner!

We made a prank and purchased gay magazines and shipped to one of our friend’s home address when he newly got married.

To confuse his wife 😝

[scenic radish]

tell ya what, if there's anything i want to be able to reload without a restart it would be the recorder, logbook, and history configs

and template sensors

balloob pls

[clever mortar]

all of the things

[scenic radish]

well that too

[last plaza]

lol

[scenic radish]

trying not to be greedy

[clever mortar]

Pffft, aim for the stars and if you miss, some poor sod is in for a nasty surprise when it lands on them

[scenic radish]

🚀

💥

[clever mortar]

[scenic radish]

am i a lazy piece of shit for using ipv6 for my domain's DNS records but still proxy_passing to ipv4 addresses internally or is that a typical setup

[clever mortar]

Well, proxy is handy anyway

Filter/rate limit/flip images

[last plaza]

And caching

[scenic radish]

right, i mean instead of forwarding to the link-local ipv6 addresses

[clever mortar]

Proxy always IMO

Gives you a layer in which you can do things just in case the server has security issues

[scenic radish]

oh wait, i can't do that anyway because i don't have home assistant set up for ipv6

[clever mortar]

My HA install is accessible over IPv4 or IPv6, because the proxy is 😄

[scenic radish]

sorry, i wasn't explaining it well. i'm always gonna use NGINX but i'm using ipv4 to proxy pass to instead of ipv6

[clever mortar]

Yeah, so... 🤷

[scenic radish]

was wondering if i'm being lazy or if that's typical

[clever mortar]

I'm sure there's folks doing it the other way too

[scenic radish]

if we could keep ipv4/ipv6 forever for LAN and ipv6 only for WAN that would be wonderful

though ipv6 to ipv4 NAT probably isn't ideal but it would be for legacy devices in my mind

[last plaza]

My isp doesn’t support ipv6 yet

[scenic radish]

😱

[clever mortar]

Mine does, which is a large part of why I switched to them

That and the static IPv4 😄

[scenic radish]

i guess comcast is doing something right

[clever mortar]

Eventually, when they rolled the dice enough, they had to

[scenic radish]

actually, that reminds me. people bitch about comcast constantly but i honestly haven't had any major issues with them

and any minor issues i can count on one hand

[clear ferry]

[clever mortar]

Same here with Virgin Media, had them for years without issue, and actually had some awesome customer service from them

[scenic radish]

Your distribution payment of $17.99 USD from the settlement of the class action lawsuit In re: VIZIO Inc., Consumer Privacy Litigation, No. 8:16-ml-02693-JLS, pending in the United States District Court for the Central District of California, is now available.

oh FUCK yeah bois

18 fucking USD, let's goooooooooooooo

lol i can choose from digital gift cards for amazon, target, or best buy, or an instant paypal transfer. wonder which one i'll go with

[forest edge]

best buy where 18 bucks won't buy anything but a candy bar at check out!

[scenic radish]

that's one smartthings water leak sensor son

connected via ZHA of course

[forest edge]

🤢

amazon shipping is all messed up atm lol

[clever mortar]

But... very very random

I've had a bunch of stuff delivered days or weeks earlier than scheduled

[scenic radish]

the last few things i've ordered have come next day

[forest edge]

not here, going on 2 weeks

still waiting

it's cause i don't have prime

[last plaza]

I am still waiting for stuff I ordered a month ago on eBay. Intl shipping.

[forest edge]

prime and all the amazon strikes lol

[last plaza]

Who doesn’t have prime these days?

[forest edge]

those who don't order amazon every other day and done seen all the "the boys" episodes?

[last plaza]

Best $100 bucks you will ever spend. Worth free 1 day or 2 day FREE shipping.

[clever mortar]

Free shipping, next day, Prime Video, and more 😄

[forest edge]

you know they offer prime for free like all the time lol

you get like 1-3 months free periodically through the year lol

just right now isn't one fo those times

[clever mortar]

Sure... but I save already based on my normal spending, so ... why wouldn't I

[scenic radish]

{% set var = 'FREE shipping' %}
{{ var.replace('FREE','prepaid') }}

yes, i'm being a pedant

[last plaza]

The number of items we order, it would be {{ 100 * prepaid }}

[scenic radish]

i do enjoy prime

[clear ferry]

I love pixel art, and when it's of my hometown,it's even better

https://i.redd.it/69ycd511sot11.gif

[scenic radish]

that dog you posted yesterday?

[forest edge]

typical norwegian response

that is very misleading. as if you actually had a "town" with buildings higher than 2 stories

[scenic radish]

that's cool

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

[forest edge]

it's cool that it's animated as well

[clear ferry]

I h8 u gais

[last plaza]

@forest edge I rode the bike 60 miles yesterday in one stretch, and after 40 miles or so, My butt has become numb and couldn’t feel the balls. 🤣 how the hell these people ride for hours?

[scenic radish]

couldn't feel the balls

[last plaza]

I probably need to get a touring seat!

[forest edge]

you actually have a more comfortable seat compared to crotch rockets too lol

[last plaza]

Not kidding! It feels like my nut sack is missing.

[forest edge]

but over the years your butt becomes numb and evventually you feel nothing lol

[last plaza]

lmao.

[clear ferry]

Just buy the bike randy marsh invented

[scenic radish]

i'm already dead inside anyway

[last plaza]

My fav character randy marsh!

[clear ferry]

https://media.tenor.com/images/31ffa0c00f918a340666231c59d2385f/tenor.gif

[scenic radish]

@last plaza solution if you want to get the feeling in your balls back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2X7GCUhZJs

[clear ferry]

https://media.tenor.com/images/6ec69b5c510f9888b9665706d027e9c4/tenor.gif

[forest edge]

*most don't ride 40-60 in a single non-stop stretch anyways cept those who had been riding for years and are traveling on bike to diff states lol

[clear ferry]

Like this @scenic radish ?
https://media.tenor.com/images/fbf0d80ffd3b77af62dbfaf45dd638df/tenor.gif

https://media.tenor.com/images/c79e6dbfd850058bf6ed1fde6a6d729d/tenor.gif

[scenic radish]

that's a slap, not a rub

[last plaza]

Someone told me to get a sheep skin seat cover, and others recommended I use Air Hawk seat pad. I am going to look for it.

lol

[forest edge]

lol just ride more and kill the nerves in your butt

like everyone else

[clear ferry]

https://media.tenor.com/images/9004622de00657dc5ae2ef94d654bafd/tenor.gif

[last plaza]

No one tells you that you need to spend around $2k on accessories and your butt will go numb before buying bike. These are the things you will learn after!

[forest edge]

it's like exercising, us fat people always feel like we're dying after the first 100 times of walking up the gym steps

[clear ferry]

Don't lump me in with your fat ass @forest edge I only have a BMI of 59

[last plaza]

lol

[forest edge]

throws empty pop can

[clear ferry]

Tbh, I'm 35

[clever mortar]

again

[clear ferry]

[clever mortar]

I'm 18, again again again again again again again...

[clear ferry]

[last plaza]

I’m more like 28 years 200 months...

[clear ferry]

You old

[forest edge]

atx is probably like 64 lol

[clear ferry]

My BMI matches my age

[forest edge]

didn't know human's lived that long

[last dirge]

boom roasted

[last plaza]

Mic 🎤 drop

[clear ferry]

@last dirge never forgiving you

[last plaza]

lol

[clear ferry]

you are probably pushing 50

Gtfo

[last dirge]

okay, boomer

you're a millennial

which is worse?

[clear ferry]

I'm bam in the middle

[sour escarp]

i am too, born in 82, hardly feel like a millennial

[scenic radish]

I'm 332 months old

first time reading the man page for ip-address:

Warning: This command and other flush commands are unforgiving. They will cruelly purge all the addresses.
goodbye, cruel world

[clear ferry]

More man files should be like that

[scenic radish]

i like the aptitude easter egg lol

[amber bramble]

Wink is going subscription only

https://blog.wink.com/

[scenic radish]

oof

[clever mortar]

Yeah, and in only a week

[scenic radish]

wow and you can't do anything without it

[clever mortar]

Should you choose not to sign up for a subscription you will no longer be able to access your Wink devices from the app, with voice control or through the API, and your automations will be disabled on May 13.

[scenic radish]

it's not even like some features are disabled, all are...

[clever mortar]

Yup

But, it's also likely a sign that the end of days is coming for them anyway

[scenic radish]

looks like they're about to have a lot of pissed off customers

yeah that's probably the final nail in the coffin

28 LIKES
wut

[clever mortar]

That's probably the number of staff left...

[scenic radish]

lmao

[clever mortar]

Like this or you're fired

[amber bramble]

i doubt they even have 28 staff left

[scenic radish]

i straight-up don't buy anything anymore unless it has a local API

or is zigbee/z-wave

[clever mortar]

That's still local API (of sorts)

[scenic radish]

true, just feels weird to say for some reason

like... the only device i have connected to home assistant that doesn't have a local API is my security system, and it supports homekit so i can connect it via homekit controller for local control

it's just not out of beta yet so it's still finicky enough for me to rely on the cloud API

[clever mortar]

The closest I have to cloud centric is voice control, and weather information

[scenic radish]

ah right, and any voice control is cloud-based, but i don't rely on that for anything critical

automations first, voice control second, manual third (or when automations aren't practical)

[forest edge]

Tediore says, "Alexa turn on light" then reaches over and flips the light switch.

[scenic radish]

pffh

google assistant son

[forest edge]

his woman complains that vvoice control isn't working and Tediore responds with, "you haven't asked me to do anything yet."

[last plaza]

@scenic radish did you do anymore parodies?

[scenic radish]

nah, though i've actually considered it lol

ugh looks like i'm gonna make my 1000-calorie garlic cream sauce with tonight's dinner

[forest edge]

how do you know splooge is 1000 calories?

[clear ferry]

[scenic radish]

🤨

[low harness]

I've heard it measured in TBs of data. Though there's a lot of repetition, so the compressed size isn't very imperssive.

[hushed basalt]

Wtf is wink

[scenic radish]

Home automation platform

With a cloud based hub

[hushed basalt]

So homeautomation as a service

[scenic radish]

Lol pretty much

[hushed basalt]

Why wouldn't that target market just use google home

[scenic radish]

I guess that's smartthings too

[hushed basalt]

Yeah I fail to see their differentiator

[forest edge]

sonoff uses wink

feel sorry for those people

hmm myq intergration seems to have brokered

[scenic radish]

Get with the times old man

That's been posted several times the last few daze

There's a fix on the way though

[forest edge]

the myq thing?

it just broke last night lol

[scenic radish]

Yeah

[hushed basalt]

Okay Google, what is the Times

[forest edge]

it makes no sense that ALL tilt sensors either work with proprietary hubs or are z-wave/zigbee

[scenic radish]

Penne with grilled chicken and the Grand Sauce ™️ (1000-calorie homemade garlic cream sauce)

[forest edge]

Grand Sauce
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2019-02/19/19/asset/buzzfeed-prod-web-01/anigif_sub-buzz-26545-1550621760-1.gif?downsize=600:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto

[scenic radish]

How did I know you'd make that joke

[hushed basalt]

You should try sous vide

[scenic radish]

I don't have the patience for that lol

[hushed basalt]

Chicken breast is a PITA to cook under direct heat

It takes like an hour with zero interaction haha

Just put it on 45 minutes before you start making the rest and play Halo inbetween

[scenic radish]

I've got it down to a science. Dip the chicken in oil before seasoning and it prevents it from burning on the grill and drying out

I love grilled meat

I have been curious about sous vide though

[hushed basalt]

Poached eggs in sous vide is amazing

Only takes like 14 minutes too

I have an Anova, it was very cheap but works fine

And TBH you can use good quality ziplock bags for 90% of stuff you don't need a vacuum sealer

[scenic radish]

Interesting

Ah that's good to hear

[hushed basalt]

I have a $1000 chamber vacuum sealer but nvm that

[scenic radish]

Wtf lol

The Grand Sealer ™️

[hushed basalt]

It's a chamber vacuum so It's the same style meat packers use

It can do liquids which was a must for me since 90% of the meals I cook are sauce based

[scenic radish]

Ah neato

Grand Sauce ™️ based?

[hushed basalt]

Also I have never thrown out frozen meat or meals due to freezer burn

That alone has probably paid for itself

Plus you can deep freeze stuff for years

[scenic radish]

That's pretty nice

You could probably save over a Grand ™️

[modern scaffold]

Hey Guys, anyone running home server with traefik2+guacamole?

[forest edge]

why can't people just do normal home networking with normal routers and devices lol

[modern scaffold]

why people just cant wear trash bags and do nothing 😄 that's why we are human 😉 we like to complicate things

😉

[scenic radish]

😉

Wait, are we not supposed to wear trash bags?

[modern scaffold]

😄

we should

[eager vortex]

Penne with grilled chicken and the Grand Sauce ™️ (1000-calorie homemade garlic cream sauce)
@scenic radish ill take the lot thanks and the bowl

[scenic radish]

Lol...it's pretty good

@modern scaffold I think Deez wears garbage bags

[hushed basalt]

@modern scaffold I use traefik2 but I don't use guacamole

What's the problem

[modern scaffold]

@hushed basalt the problem is with guacamole, can't figure out how to connect via ssh to the server.

[hushed basalt]

Is this in a container?