#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 491

hushed basalt Apr 12, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Just found some c++ code I wrote for a class 6 years ago

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Guess how much of it I remember

wet pilot Apr 12, 2020, 11:39 PM

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None

hushed basalt Apr 12, 2020, 11:40 PM

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True

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Once you dabble in a few languages you realise how fundamentally similar most of them are

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Especially OOP

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Man American Amazon is slow

green inlet Apr 12, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Ok, I found the app and it found my tv immediately.

hushed basalt Apr 12, 2020, 11:44 PM

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I don't think I'll order anything from Amazon.com again for a while

wet pilot Apr 12, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Yep, they're very similar. Just slightly different syntax and sugar

green inlet Apr 12, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Ha, before corona, if you ordered the right thing at the right time you could get same day delivery

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In the

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📎 image0.gif

forest edge Apr 12, 2020, 11:57 PM

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just think after all this any store you ever bought from that didn't have some kind of online ordering/shipping thing in place will have from here on out lol

last plaza Apr 13, 2020, 12:19 AM

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yes, if they want to survive! things have changed!

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 12:32 AM

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we went from 80F to 60F in a day then 60F to 36F in 2 hours lol

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stupid midwest weather

last plaza Apr 13, 2020, 12:32 AM

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same here - rain brought cold weather - gonna be windy tonight

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 12:34 AM

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I had a look to see how viable it would be to run some ethernet in this rental between the rack and the office

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Noppeee

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Looks like I'll be sticking with wireless

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😿

rare condor Apr 13, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Do you guys like my new Tasmota Plug: https://photos.app.goo.gl/jRi2gvoxBuxgWrbW8

Google Photos

New photo by Harrison Pace

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Wired by hand

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 3:23 AM

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This will be subpoenad by your insurance company haha

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 3:34 AM

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yea that looks dangerous

deep bane Apr 13, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Hey, ya'll trying to figure out where the appropriate place is to ask this question.: How do you get Developer Tools->Services to show Service Data (JSON, optional) Right now, all I can see is Service Data (YAML, optional)? (I'm using Home Assistant on Mac, not Hassio) I've searched far and wide for a couple of days, forums, documentation, youtube, google etc. but no closer to an answer.

static schooner Apr 13, 2020, 4:11 AM

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YAML was supported as of a few releases ago

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YAML is a superset of JSON

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So the question is really: what are you trying to do that it matters?

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:23 AM

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YAML also accepts json for the most part

surreal axle Apr 13, 2020, 4:25 AM

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what does this do ? optimistic: false

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TY if any one has time to explain to a noob

static schooner Apr 13, 2020, 4:26 AM

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In what context?

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This is the lounge channel

surreal axle Apr 13, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I was just wonder what that yaml value actualy does

static schooner Apr 13, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Nothing by itself

surreal axle Apr 13, 2020, 4:28 AM

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its part of a mqtt light entry

static schooner Apr 13, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Depends on where it’s being used

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Ah, useful

surreal axle Apr 13, 2020, 4:28 AM

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sorry

static schooner Apr 13, 2020, 4:28 AM

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#general-archived

surreal axle Apr 13, 2020, 4:29 AM

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I was just quirious

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sorry if it was the wrong place

static schooner Apr 13, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Np

deep bane Apr 13, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Trying to create the json for a service and entity selection for node-red. Sorry, didn't know where to ask the question. I was going to use it in node-red, but not sure i needed.

static schooner Apr 13, 2020, 4:31 AM

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#the-water-cooler is for non-HA stuff. #node-red-archived would be better

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But have you tried just putting your JSON there?

deep bane Apr 13, 2020, 4:34 AM

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gotcha, well I wanted to be sure I was created the json correct so I was going to use developer tool so see if I created it correctly. Thanks for your advice.

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:34 AM

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@deep bane yaml is a subset of json

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:35 AM

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false

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100% of json -> yaml. The opposite is not true

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yaml supports comments for example

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Yes but yaml is just human readable/writeable config that gets churned to json by the parser

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The comments don't get parsed

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:36 AM

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yup, so yaml superset

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we should all do toml 😄

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Fuck toml

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Tom Preston-Werner should uninvent that abomination

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"YAmL iS sO stUpiD whO usEs whItE spAce iTs jUst duMb Dumb dUmb"

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:39 AM

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XD

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started the flame war

static schooner Apr 13, 2020, 4:39 AM

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This is a good use of #the-water-cooler

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:39 AM

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🧨

deep bane Apr 13, 2020, 4:40 AM

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My favorite color is orange

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:40 AM

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I can't understand why people find yaml hard to use

deep bane Apr 13, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Whats yours?

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:40 AM

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It's spelt colour! Burn the American Heritic

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https://media.tenor.com/images/c8fc58dec7780ff13af50460d104ef19/tenor.gif

deep bane Apr 13, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Is that an acceptable scrabble spelling?

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:42 AM

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@deep bane appelsingul you mean

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Can Americans even have scrabble

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:42 AM

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hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:42 AM

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I thought they just make up all their words

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And standards

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:43 AM

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yaml is easy once i found the relationship between json

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:43 AM

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But there is 34.63 feet in one gallon @hushed basalt

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It's so logical

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Gee the mercury sure is high on the freedom eagle today

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:43 AM

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lol

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:44 AM

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That said, inch tools are great when you have worn down metric nuts and bolts

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:44 AM

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I was going 45 big macs per doritos yesterday and the cop gave me a ticket

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:45 AM

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😛

deep bane Apr 13, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Y'all crack me up

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:45 AM

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not a fan of our measurements. a bunch of stuff is slowly switching over but i don't think it'll ever fully change

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:45 AM

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https://images.app.goo.gl/88cvAx1E6nWe8ajDA

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:45 AM

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would be really expensive at this point

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:46 AM

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It's expensive for us

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To deal with you :D

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Don't get me started on your month day year format

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:46 AM

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https://images.app.goo.gl/YQMC7ZJV6ighgm9w5

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Oh look the time is 46:12:32

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:47 AM

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date format is stupid

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Messes with my receipt scanning software

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:47 AM

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ISO standard

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:47 AM

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When I buy stuff from Murica

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Puts things in wrong financial year

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:48 AM

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YYYY-mm-DD HH:MM:SS

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:48 AM

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I found a meme that sounds like @forest edge actually

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https://images.app.goo.gl/o4wMMD2xHbN8vwHF7

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Iso makes sense for computer systems

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I wouldn't write it on documents though

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Makes you look like a nonce

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:48 AM

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docs i'll do 13-Apr-20

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:49 AM

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I do slashes. The superior deliminator

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Clearly

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Yeah, that is what we do

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13/04/2020

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:49 AM

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I always do YYYY though

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Also, military time > wtf am pm

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Eh

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We're a am/pm country

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:50 AM

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You suck

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:50 AM

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So we think and communicate in 12 hr

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So it's a cognitive load swapping between the two

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But computer systems and production schedules always 24hr for me

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:51 AM

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It is already implicit if it is morning or evening in military time, so makes no sense to do am pm

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:51 AM

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and the sun doesn't care about or measurements

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Unless you grew up on 12 hr

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Then it's what your brain uses

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:51 AM

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noon is pretty arbitrary 😄

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Noon is when the sun is exactly between east and west

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Like, 12.00 am, is the most useless measurement ever

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Is it noon or night

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Who knows

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:53 AM

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12pm is noon

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Yeah 12am is 00:00

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:53 AM

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12am is night

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That's pretty clear to me :)

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:53 AM

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I'm equally flabbergasted every time

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Tbh though I wish we all used 24-hour time

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And the metric system...

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:53 AM

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You untermench time people

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:54 AM

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The parsec it hits 12:00 it's PM

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:55 AM

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pepe5Head

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Maybe only Europeans could count past 12

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Who knows

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Must be all the smoking giving them extra mental powers

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Convicts sure couldn't GWgoaSadness

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forsenCD

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:56 AM

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It's like going to Paris. Pros and cons

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Pros. The women are beautiful. The pastries are nice.

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Cons

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You're in Paris

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:57 AM

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My parents asked me to come along to Paris once, I said no thank you, I've been ignored and insulted before, I'll pass

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Also they can't make coffee

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Like at all

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:57 AM

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French people are.... French

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:57 AM

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If you want drinkable coffee in Paris, look for an Australian

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:58 AM

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lol i've heard you have shite coffee over there too

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:58 AM

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I've been to France like 20 times, but in the Rhone region

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It's nice, but French

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Amsterdam is similar in shit coffee too, but at least they're polite while they give you €3 bilgewater

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Australians have amazing coffee

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 4:59 AM

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I wasn't old enough to enjoy coffee when I was in AU/NZ so I can't elaborate if your coffee is superior

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:59 AM

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You can easily find good to great coffee in any cafe that's not a franchise

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:59 AM

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US coffee game is pretty good

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 5:00 AM

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American coffee is... 95% Starbucks it seems, all hotels and all offices I've been in have only had Starbucks ElonMusk

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 5:00 AM

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That drip feed stuff?

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 5:00 AM

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starbucks suck

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they burn the shit out of their coffee

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 5:00 AM

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I went to dunkin on @scenic radish behest, it was ok

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 5:00 AM

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dunkin is "ok"

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 5:01 AM

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I wish Parisians would admit their coffee sucks

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 5:01 AM

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better than starbuks

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Then they can grow and change

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Never go to a franchise for coffee

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 5:01 AM

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but Kona blend is from Hawaii

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Guess you know of this @hushed basalt

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome?wprov=sfla1

Paris syndrome

Paris syndrome (French: syndrome de Paris, Japanese: パリ症候群, pari shōkōgun) is a condition exhibited by some individuals when visiting or going on vacation to Paris, as a result of extreme shock at discovering that Paris is different from their expectations. The syndrome is cha...

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Yeah I've read that

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I didn't have subverted expectations though :D

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Their coffee is really really really bad

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 5:03 AM

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French countryside is nice

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 5:03 AM

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shite water?

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 5:03 AM

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UHT milk

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Pot coffee overpulled

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Crappy beans I'm sure

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A "if it's brown and technically coffee it's good enough so why put more effort in" sort of attitude

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At least they know how to protest though

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Australians can't even strike

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 5:04 AM

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CAN YOU HEAR THE PEOPLE SING

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 5:05 AM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/les-miserables-11cmGS5OQWcXT2

Giphy

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jk can't do shit in freedom land

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 5:05 AM

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They burnt down a mcdonalds when I was in Paris

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 5:05 AM

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@wet pilot but freedom?

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DeletThis

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Mcdonalds is a 2 for 1 special

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 5:06 AM

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freedom is a lie sold by corpos to sell more shit

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Symbol of corporatism and murrica

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 5:06 AM

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POGGERS

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🆓 🇩 🇴 🇲

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 5:07 AM

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\s/DOM/DUMB/g

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 5:08 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/483667ac740b3e757eaaf2b1c2943bb3/tenor.gif

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 5:16 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/8c72fc5d50fde319686800b29cc51b4a/tenor.gif

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 6:49 AM

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@clear ferry hey if you wanna refer to the length of your junk in cm rather than in/ft you go right on ahead lol

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 7:58 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/crying-gif-3407178

Tenor

Sad cry

▶ Play video

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 9:02 AM

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What are you seeing DOODS? Everything?

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📎 Screenshot_20200413_110229.jpg

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 9:03 AM

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Go home Dood, you're drunk

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 9:04 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20200413_110406.jpg

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 9:04 AM

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😂

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 9:04 AM

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Atleast there is no airplanes or toilets right now

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 9:05 AM

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What you're saying is that Doods has "some work" required...

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 9:05 AM

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Wonder which of those the car is

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wtf

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 9:06 AM

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I wonder where the 4 ghosts are, and which of them has the suitcase 🤔

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 9:07 AM

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Probably some Mormons lingering after last they tried ringing my bell

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angeryping

thick dragon Apr 13, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Super random question, but what's the smallest, free, bootable iso/software to nuke drives? Want to sell my old PC, but seems overkill to download Ubuntu or something just to fdisk it.

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 9:34 AM

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dban

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Killdisk

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If that is still a thing

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I ran it for many years lmao

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Or any linux/BSD ISO you have kicking about

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for DISK in /dev/sd[a-z]; do dd if=/dev/zero of=${DISK}; done
``` Ugly, slow, but it'll get there some day

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 9:36 AM

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For SSDs there are specific flags to wipe

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Atleast according to specs lmao

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 9:38 AM

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Well, for some, and for some it even works...

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 9:38 AM

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I use this for wiping, albeit it is $400 retail per wipe 😝

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https://www.blancco.com/

BTG English

Complete Data Removal, Data Erasure Software - Blancco

Blancco offers certified, secure data erasure software for a range of IT assets, including laptops, mobile devices, LUNs, virtual machines, files and more. Read more.

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No wait that URL was wrong

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 9:39 AM

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There is/was a free version

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Yup, still is

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 9:39 AM

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Really

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I only run the server version and wipe 400 drives in a go

thick dragon Apr 13, 2020, 9:43 AM

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Yeah, the free version was recommended. Doesn't do a deep scrub tho and according to the comparison, can't be mounted to USB which seems weird.

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Sorry, not blancco, dban.

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 9:43 AM

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Deep scrub is mostly marketing BS

thick dragon Apr 13, 2020, 9:44 AM

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Realised that it'll be easier to sell if I say "comes pre-installed with Windows 10" though, so just gonna install it but not configure then let whoever buys it find out they need to buy a license 😉

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 9:45 AM

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Once upon a time a single pass would leave enough of the previous data that it could be recovered, it just wasn't easy. For a long time though it's irrelevant, recovering data from a single pass is time consuming and horribly expensive. Only those with very deep pockets will bother (so countries/organised crime).

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 10:07 AM

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Also it's good practice to encrypt drives when you buy them

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Then when you don't want it anymore you just erase the key

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 10:44 AM

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Is it just me or is the whole google cloud platform a spagetti mess

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It's like consoles nested on consoles

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Never sure what you're in. Each has it's own IAM and permissions

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Oh is this firebase, no it's actions, no it's google cloud. Oh and which project is this.

thick dragon Apr 13, 2020, 11:01 AM

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Haha, I have zero experience with cloud services, so I just assumed when the Google Assistant integration for HA was confusing as fuck to set up that it was just cloud services in general that are like that. Good to hear Google is particularly bad then.

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 11:03 AM

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Confusing? It takes 3 minutes

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lmao

thick dragon Apr 13, 2020, 11:04 AM

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If you know what you're doing, sure 😛

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 11:04 AM

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Click Google home app, select add hassio, authorize, done 🤔

thick dragon Apr 13, 2020, 11:05 AM

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Not talking about Nabu Casa, talking about manual integration.

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 11:05 AM

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🤢

midnight adder Apr 13, 2020, 11:43 AM

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Hi @all - Joe here. Can someone help me with my Homeassistan on Docker - somehow it has lost its complete config, plugins etc.

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 11:49 AM

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#672217570283094017 if you're running HA natively on Docker or #330944238910963714 if you're using Supervised @midnight adder

midnight adder Apr 13, 2020, 11:51 AM

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ok sorry for posting in the wrong channel. how can i tell if my system is core oder supervised? I installed it almost a year ago. Its not running on a pi via sd

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 11:52 AM

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Do you have a Hass.io menu? If so, #330944238910963714

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You can also check in devtools -> Info

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hassio is #330944238910963714

midnight adder Apr 13, 2020, 11:55 AM

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ok thx hassio false so i will ask in #672217570283094017 thanks

daring cloak Apr 13, 2020, 12:32 PM

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oh nice!

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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any recc's for a good 24 - 32" monitor for my wife? she's a teacher, so it's for word processing/zoom meetings

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 1:28 PM

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is that the only use case?

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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I mean, at that, any half decent HD monitor should be fine

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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was thinking a cheap TV

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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That too

amber bramble Apr 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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I've been consistently impressed with the Dell monitors

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 1:30 PM

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I've an AOC that's pretty good, and an Acer at work that's sweet

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 1:30 PM

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Yeah I like my 22" AOC but that's too small for this purpose

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22" IPS display for $99, couldn't complain

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 1:31 PM

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There's also a budget question

amber bramble Apr 13, 2020, 1:31 PM

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we're almost all dell P-series monitors at my work and they're great and last basically forever

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though it looks like our contract with dell gets us those monitors for half of what they sell them to the GP for 🙃

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 1:32 PM

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cgarwood over here tryna unload some illicit displays

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Fell off the back of a lorry guv

amber bramble Apr 13, 2020, 1:32 PM

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i wish i could buy hardware personally with our work discounts

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Just order on behalf of work, pay for it yourself, and take it home! WCGW?

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 1:35 PM

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i'd do that, but we're all WFH, no more outside ever

amber bramble Apr 13, 2020, 1:35 PM

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we have some kind of specialized purchasing system and it all goes through a central business office, can't just use a CC on dell's site and still get the work pricing 😦

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 1:36 PM

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yea Im trying to be pretty frugal if I can, but saving isn't the priorty WAF is - she'll kill me if it's junk

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 1:37 PM

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£100 or so is all you need for a reasonable HD monitor in the 22" range

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Even a 24" isn't that much more costly

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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yea that is fine for sure. Tediore mentioned a 22 inch AOC? yea anythinng like that would be perfect

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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but if you go larger, TVs start making more sense

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 1:39 PM

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yea it's just home office, dont need to be big

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this look good? https://www.amazon.com/AOC-C32G1-Frameless-1920x1080-DisplayPort/dp/B07GD7H18F/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3MZCQB4PHSY5I&dchild=1&keywords=aoc%2Bmonitor&qid=1586785231&s=pc&sprefix=aoc%2Bmon%2Ccomputers%2C152&sr=1-4&th=1

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i see a lot of 24inch but not 22

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 1:44 PM

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21.5" for the AOC range

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 1:44 PM

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ahh okay

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 1:44 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0158L13M4

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for example

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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nice

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 1:51 PM

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@woeful rose I'd share my model number but I'm pretty sure it's discontinued, bought it like 3-4 years ago

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 1:54 PM

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absolutely that would be great

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 1:56 PM

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I think you misunderstood what I said lol

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 1:59 PM

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haha my bad

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 1:59 PM

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But anyway it's the AOC I2269VW

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You're good lol

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 1:59 PM

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monitor model numbers are hot garbage

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Only downside is it has DVI instead of HDMI

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Still digital at least, just not as convenient as HDMI

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Yeah they are phnx

amber bramble Apr 13, 2020, 2:03 PM

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i hate how most cheap monitors that look nice don't include VESA mounts 😦

copper elm Apr 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Does anyone know of a device that is in a similar form factor to a sonoff basic (Can be put in line in a cable, without having exposed metal) but that is a dimmer, not a relaty

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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#hardware-archived may 😉

copper elm Apr 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Thanks

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 2:15 PM

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@woeful rose one monitor is so hard to work on, especially if you are going to do teaching, minimum two imo

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 2:15 PM

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probably has a laptop so already have one

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 2:15 PM

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@amber bramble mine are the cheapest benq screens, bought over the years, they all have vesa

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@wet pilot hopefully

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 2:16 PM

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So I have my home assistant frontend pulled up on my work computer which I'm accessing with a RDP client which is installed on Windows 10 in a VM which is on my Debian computer. How much deeper can I go?

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 2:18 PM

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A lot

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I did 4 nested levels of hypervisors

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Just because I could

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Good lord lol

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How'd that run?

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Faster than a Pi

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Not surprising

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I like my pi GWczeAngryCry

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Esxi - hyperv - debian - docker

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I think I did KVM in Debian too

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So a better level than docker

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MyNeighbor

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 2:20 PM

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and then docker in docker

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Not sure if I call docker a nested level tbh

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MYAAA

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 2:23 PM

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running containers in a container?

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bad juju but possible

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 2:23 PM

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These friggin emoji atx lol

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 2:24 PM

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yea the wif'e's gotta laptop - actually suggested the 2 monitor setup, she declined. Do you guys have a good keyboard you like?

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 2:24 PM

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i like mechanical but those don't play nice with voice chat

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Just need a proper directional mic 😉

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 2:26 PM

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i don't think i know what a mechanical keyboard is - like a typewriter?

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Not quite, but less "soft mushy" thing and more "clickety clack"

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Proper switches, with springs

lavish eagle Apr 13, 2020, 2:40 PM

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yay everything works now

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 2:42 PM

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@woeful rose if she is going to type a lot I recommend something that is angled atleast, like a "natural keyboard"

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@wet pilot latest version of teams uses AI to remove keyboard noises, not sure how effective it is on mechanical keyboard though

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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probably "not great"

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my solution is to mute my mic

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 2:44 PM

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is anglled or natural like ergonomic ?

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mechanical keyboards like pretty neat

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 2:45 PM

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My alltime favorite is

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woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 2:45 PM

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holy shit that's what im talking about

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 2:45 PM

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but microsoft only makes this bullshit these days

📎 64e9ff4e-d116-48b9-a45b-fccb57e4b279.png

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🤣

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 2:47 PM

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i need that white one

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Good luck

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They're rarer than rocking horse shite

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 2:48 PM

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I might have two in my parents attic

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I should check next time I'm home

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Those old ones could also take a lot of punishment

last plaza Apr 13, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Noisy keyboards are best for video calls and Skype.

orchid rose Apr 13, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Those arrows on the white one wtf. I don't remember them being like that

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 2:51 PM

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I have previously been yelled at, more than once, for "typing too loud" 😂

last plaza Apr 13, 2020, 2:51 PM

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lol

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 2:51 PM

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clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 2:52 PM

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I never have issues with typing sounds because I type fast, but as quiet as a mouse

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 2:52 PM

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"paper rustling for no reason" lol

last plaza Apr 13, 2020, 2:54 PM

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@scenic radish one thing that is missing in the picture is the lawn mower sounds. My neighbor knows exactly when I am on important calls, and he whips out his mower right on time!

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https://venturebeat.com/2020/04/09/microsoft-teams-ai-machine-learning-real-time-noise-suppression-typing/

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 2:56 PM

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They missed Can everybody hear me that every damn person seems to feel the need to say before speaking for the first time

last plaza Apr 13, 2020, 2:57 PM

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lmao

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 3:01 PM

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I don't have issues with typing sounds because I use a headset

dull chasm Apr 13, 2020, 3:04 PM

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@clever mortar on discord a peek at his setup

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clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Too small

dull chasm Apr 13, 2020, 3:05 PM

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🤣

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 3:06 PM

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If it's not 38" you're still just playing

dull chasm Apr 13, 2020, 3:06 PM

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So ten 38’s

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 3:06 PM

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I think the desk would fail

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Two of those is enough to cause problems - mostly by encroaching on the next desk 😄

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I really want to fit them one above the other, but apparently H&S won't let us...

scenic radish Apr 13, 2020, 3:23 PM

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I've truly run out of things to automate...so I'm now using a smart plug to monitor my coffeemaker power usage and notify me when the coffee is done brewing

regal phoenix Apr 13, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Hello all. I'm new to Home assistant. just wanted to say HI

wanton sonnet Apr 13, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Hi all! I'm new here. I want to ask a little question about SSL, in wich channel shoud I go?

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Also i searhced and no result for my problem

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 4:27 PM

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#330944238910963714 or #672217570283094017 depending how you installed, probably

wanton sonnet Apr 13, 2020, 4:28 PM

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In a raspberry pi without the image

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 4:29 PM

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If you have add-ons or a Supervisor menu that's #330944238910963714

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if you don't have either, it's #672217570283094017

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:36 PM

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seems like duckdns might be going sideways again

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Yeah, it's been up and down like the proverbial today again

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:40 PM

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at least it triggered me to go through and run os and container updates on everything before i confirmed it 😛

last plaza Apr 13, 2020, 4:40 PM

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I've truly run out of things to automate...so I'm now using a smart plug to monitor my coffeemaker power usage and notify me when the coffee is done brewing
@scenic radish time to experiment with soldering... more tinkering, more ideas and more learning!

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Or binge watch TV series 😉

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Having watched Picard I've finally got around to watching all of season one of Discovery today. Tomorrow it'll be season two 😄

novel rune Apr 13, 2020, 4:53 PM

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hi guys, it just me or duckdns.org down?

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Yes

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Well, no, but yes

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Scroll up 😉

novel rune Apr 13, 2020, 4:53 PM

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look like it back up just now, some hiccup 😄

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 4:54 PM

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It's been up and down all day, again

novel rune Apr 13, 2020, 4:55 PM

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yeah, not working now again, I guess I need stop blaming my router 😄

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I have a feeling DuckDNS are either the target of some attack, or have their infrastructure on fire...

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 4:57 PM

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at times like this im glad i have my own domain

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Snap

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I used to have a backup secondary DNS provider too, but it's been "some time" since Route53 went down

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 4:59 PM

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1.1.1.1 -> 8.8.8.8 ?

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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1.1.1.1 -> 2.2.2.2 -> 3.3.3.3 -> 4.4.4.4...

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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lol

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Eventually you get to 255.255.255.255 and bit overflow 😛

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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lol

tender pollen Apr 13, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Hi. I'm about to replace a plug in dimmer (433 MHz) with a Z-wave one, but the light makes a buzzing sound when connected to the Z-wave dimmer. Both are Nexa and have the same specs. Any idea why this might happen?

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Duckdns 🤢

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@tender pollen because trafo / bulb probably isn't dimmable

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Possibly one is leading edge and one is trailing edge

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The RF one may even be resistive

tender pollen Apr 13, 2020, 5:05 PM

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It has worked fine with the 433 MHz dimmer.

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Leading edge is the older one I think

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For halogen bulbs

tender pollen Apr 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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So the new one can not dim halogen bulbs?

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Yes it will, but is more noisy and not as smooth dimming

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Worth knowing the dimmer technology types, different bulbs require different tech

tender pollen Apr 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Thanks. Googled and it seems that you are right. Was going to replace the bulbs to with LED anyhow, so I guess it'll get quiet then 🙂

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Yeah, I met a security guard at a supermarket who honestly believed it was 5G's fault

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Heck, my sister in law believes in psychics...

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There's a limit to how much you can get people to clue up

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If you can manage to get people to question their point of view at all that takes a lot of effort

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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especially these days and 100x if politics are involved

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depending on that topic, the middle ground can be very hard to find

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and if they are the type to believe in conspiracy theories, it might just be best to avoid those topics all together if you want to continue interacting with that person

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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wait... 5G doesn't cause organic virus to manifest?!

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 5:39 PM

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yea that conspiracy theory is floating around

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people keeping saying look at Sweden who i think banned it?

last plaza Apr 13, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Sweden banned 5G?

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And Norway too?

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As with any new tech, will take time! This obviously requires significant infrastructure, and the adoption would take time. Meanwhile there would be skeptics.

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Prices will come down as we mass manufacture things

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 5:42 PM

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I don't see why our cell phones need gigabit internet either tbh

last plaza Apr 13, 2020, 5:43 PM

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15 years ago, folks would have said the same thing. Why would you need gigabit? They were pretty happy with floppies 😊

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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unless it gives us the ability to teleport mcdonalds trash into @clear ferry office then there is real no use for it

last plaza Apr 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Speaking of which, I still got a box full of floppy discs

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Love the https://www.windy.com site! It’s been pretty windy here since last night!

Windy.com/

Windy as forecasted

Wind map and weather forecast

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This is for those who believe in psychics 😝

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forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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I can think of worst positives so that guy lucked out

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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lol

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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@shy comet 8AM 🙂 Nice

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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i didnt know costco was open so early

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like 6am shopping

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2020, 6:00 PM

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They shop very early

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 6:00 PM

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cant belive it took 5 days though man

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2020, 6:00 PM

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That's how the stock is live

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 6:00 PM

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i was reading an article earlier that intacart shoppers get to pick and choose which ordersthey pick up

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kinda pisses me off they can do that

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it should be in order received

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2020, 6:00 PM

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When regular customers come in stock levels go nuts that's why the slots gets exhausted pretty quick.

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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dunno where you live, but in NYC instacart does not work

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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and they can see the tip amount before accepting the order too

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they shoudlnt show them that either IMO

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Yes read they pick orders by tip amount. Some customers are changing the tip when they start to shop. Messed up in every way lol

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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its like standing at a bar with a money showing and someone steps up with a $20 bill for a tip and u never get to order

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@woeful rose we are in LA

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wake up at like 4 or 5 am

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and check the app, thats the time we found the best success rate

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otherwise it keeps saying check back later

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took like a week to place the order too

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2020, 6:02 PM

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There was this one customer that put in $100 and then changed to $5 tip while the person was shipping 🙂

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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yea i saw taht

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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are you serious? people like that should be guillotined

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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talk about a flawed system

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i agree with the shoppers that there should be a minimum

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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fowl play on both sides leads to more bad behavior

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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but in all honsety instacart paying them $9 per order is much worse than bait and switch

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like 1000x worse

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tip money should not be the majority of their paycheck

woeful rose Apr 13, 2020, 6:04 PM

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but it is tho

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 6:04 PM

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what sucks also is if you have a larger order than others and the shopper sees that they wil not want to take your order

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 6:05 PM

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even pizza delivery drivers are hourly

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 6:05 PM

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yea for some reason we allow instacart to 1099 their shoppers/drivers

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 6:05 PM

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same for <insert gig economy job here>

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they all do it and they're all bad

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none of these "businesses" would be solvent without it

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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In CA you can't 1099 them anymore.

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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yup. did that go into effect fully? or is it tied up in court?

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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New bill went in to effect in Jan

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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noice

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Even now Uber will show variable fair

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Which includes withholding etc

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But uber is fighting in courts now.

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 6:08 PM

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has it changed anything for the boots on the ground?

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2020, 6:08 PM

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yes already

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📎 unknown.png

last plaza Apr 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I’ve heard RestaurantDepot and Costco are letting folks without membership

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2020, 6:14 PM

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@wet pilot this law creates issues across the board even for software even for gig e as you mentioned.

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 6:14 PM

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yup i can imagine

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2020, 6:15 PM

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the net is so wide hard to even see where 1099 would come in.

last plaza Apr 13, 2020, 6:20 PM

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We now have a new law in Ohio. You can’t buy alcohol if you are not from Ohio. Apparently folks from PA are crowding Ohio state liquor stores as their liquor stores are closed for covid-19

wet pilot Apr 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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lol

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pensyltucky strikes again

rotund belfry Apr 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Hi guys and girls i am having trouble with Mosquitto broker and home assistant saying WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.http.ban] Login attempt or request with invalid authentication from 172.30.32.2

last plaza Apr 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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lol

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@rotund belfry that looks like Docker IP address

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You can ask in #330944238910963714

rotund belfry Apr 13, 2020, 6:26 PM

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my install if the iso for a pi so not really sure what i am running

tame cove Apr 13, 2020, 6:27 PM

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hi everyone

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 6:27 PM

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#330944238910963714 if you started with an ISO @rotund belfry

rotund belfry Apr 13, 2020, 6:27 PM

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@clever mortar 👍

tame cove Apr 13, 2020, 6:46 PM

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searching online for cool new sonoff devices or related devices

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Oh, there's so many rabbit holes to go down... Discords for digiblurDIY, DrZzs, WLED, ESPHome, Tasmota...

bitter zinc Apr 13, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Is there any extremely cheap smart home stuff?

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Like I mean just as cheap as sonoff stuff, but not where the cheap stuff is just the smart plugs

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Xiaomi's range

bitter zinc Apr 13, 2020, 6:55 PM

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What about sensors?

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Still Xiaomi Mi?

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 6:57 PM

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The Aqara range work, and are cheap

bitter zinc Apr 13, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Are those fast though? If I link it to a light how long will it take the light t turn on?

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Depends...

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That's like asking is the Ford fast enough

bitter zinc Apr 13, 2020, 6:58 PM

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How fast is yours?

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 6:58 PM

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It's a range, not a single device

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Fast enough

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I'd suggest asking in #hardware-archived in general, and #diy-archived for DIY stuff, but an idea of what you're looking for, which country you're in, and what your budget is will help folks help you

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 6:59 PM

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should change your tag to "Boldly going where the virus is not"

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 6:59 PM

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If you're looking at switches then say that

bitter zinc Apr 13, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Lol

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Ok

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 7:00 PM

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think they call it the Klingon Clap

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 7:01 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 7:02 PM

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wtf lmao

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that certainly looked like a product that would come out of someone being quarantined at home during a virus outbreak for a few months lol

left valve Apr 13, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Hey guys, so since yesterday I'm having problems with nodered, it's memory leaking

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 7:07 PM

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#node-red-archived then

left valve Apr 13, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Has brought my system to a stall, twice already

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 7:08 PM

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oh the hopkins map shows US tested and hospitalized separately now. aren't we special

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says over 2 mil tested and 93k+ hospitalized

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Government has to be fudging these numbers. They claim my state has 45k+ tests done yet we don't even have anywhere near that number of confirmed cases and since the doctors here won't even give you a covid test unless you show multiple symptoms there's noway we did 45K covid test

clever mortar Apr 13, 2020, 7:16 PM

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45K tests in the system

lavish eagle Apr 13, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Guys, I did it!

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Not only did I set up SSL, but I also set up Google Assistant and ESPHome, and am now controlling my RGB LED strips!

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Wow this took so long but it's great fun.

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Now time to break it all and set it up on a Dell Optiplex!

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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looks like california, oregon and washington are looking to reopen together

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we get the plan tomorow

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 7:27 PM

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@forest edge are you saying you think they're making numbers up because of the poor response/availability of testing?

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 7:31 PM

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no idea what their reasoning is, just know 45K tests done in my state is a flat out lie

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 7:33 PM

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what's your state?

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 7:34 PM

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MO

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 7:34 PM

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did you get snowed on last night/this morning?

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 7:34 PM

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was as sleep but don't believe so

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 7:34 PM

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and 45k seems reasonable

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 7:34 PM

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with 4k comfirmed cases?

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 7:34 PM

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no, something's definitely fucky

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anybody used a PLC before?

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Yes, 20 years ago @last dirge

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@rare condor is a pro though

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 7:56 PM

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was looking for a bit more recent 😉

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trying to figure out a solution for my water catchment boost pump

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Boost pump?

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 7:58 PM

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yeah

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pump that takes the output from the totes and gives it more powa

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 7:58 PM

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raised_eye

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 7:59 PM

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I started installing my tanks this past weekend

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gravity feed and head pressure isn't going to be enough to do what I need it to do

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so I have to add a pump

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Yeah, I have a pump in the bottom of my catch

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:00 PM

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I can't do "bottom"

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since it's not a single cistern

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:00 PM

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no manafold?

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:00 PM

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it's two 275 gallon IBC totes stacked up

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there's a 2" output ball valve

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but I can't drop a pump in it

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pump has to be exterior

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 8:01 PM

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I have one of these

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https://www.jula.no/catalog/hage/vanning-og-drenering/vanning/vanntonner/vanntonne-795994/

Vanntønne | Med lokk | NO BRAND EMV | Jula

Sett den under takrennen for å samle regnvann, eller fyll den selv. I bunnen monteres medfølgende tappekran, i toppen er det et lokk.

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:01 PM

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I have two of these

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📎 btdvGDnR0sUdUgne_TkiA-debMwClG0XFKTMQtvnp13TvTFFYY5m_HH-brf5kSrP4J4NCiBBHYl7z0SZ0Mp_IVL77hyx8rsEMg9l.png

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 8:02 PM

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That much water I don't need

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It's only a 5sqm greenhouse

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:02 PM

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we have about twice as many "no rain" days than we have "rain days"

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my one raised bed is requiring I give it about 2 gallons of water per day

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 8:03 PM

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In just have a sensor that will detect water level and fill with house water if it gets low

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:03 PM

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and it's only seedlings righ tnow

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:03 PM

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this line go into the home?

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:03 PM

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no

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this is only for my garden stuff

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:03 PM

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or is this just for garden stuffs

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oh

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:04 PM

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if it works out well, I may eventually get more tanks and use it for lawn irrigation

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:05 PM

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your trying to get hose pressure out of it with the pump?

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:05 PM

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yeah

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if it goes past using it for garden stuff, I may have to scrap the 12V requirement

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:07 PM

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not sure of a perma solution since most require to be dropped down in the tank but pool drainage pumps often can be both submersed or have double hoses connected to them and will give hose pressure. I bought one from walmart like 10 years ago that works like a champ for me spraying the fence line with my hot tub water when we drain it

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you'd have to find an RVV water pump to keep that 12v

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that be more pricey too

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:09 PM

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the RV water pumps are super low volume

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:10 PM

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limitations of the 12v. don't think you would find one any stronger

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:15 PM

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https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-dc-transfer-pump-290-gph-63324.html

Harbor Freight Tools

12V DC Transfer Pump 290 GPH

12 Volt DC Transfer Pump

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that one's about 5 gallons per minute

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the 12V ones are only about 5 liters per minute

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:18 PM

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you need something around 600GPH for typical city water pressure

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:19 PM

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there's this

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https://www.harborfreight.com/1-hp-stainless-steel-shallow-well-pump-and-tank-with-pressure-control-switch-950-gph-63407.html

Harbor Freight Tools

1 HP Stainless Steel Shallow Well Pump and Tank with Pressure Contr...

1 HP Stainless Steel Shallow Well Pump and Tank with Pressure Control Switch - 950 GPH

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which would solve a few problems

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but it's 110V

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:20 PM

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I think mine is like 450GPH or something but it's also 110v

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:21 PM

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that'd need 1200W continuous

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those get spendy

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:23 PM

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your almost better off coming up with a way to insert a submersible pump and getting something like this https://www.amazon.com/SEAFLO-Submersible-500GPH-Non-Automatic-Campers/dp/B01E73YDBM

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get like a 3rd tank or something for the other two to drain into or something

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:25 PM

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those bilge pumps don't do much pressure

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:29 PM

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GPH is GPH

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:30 PM

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doesn't matter if it can't push 20 feet of head

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:30 PM

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mount the two mobile cisterns up on a stand or something. pick up one of those plastic 55 gallon drums and place infront. drop the submerged pump in the barrel and increase the drain lines of the cistern to the biggest size you can and the way you go lol

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well that one i linked was 15 bucks, they make better ones lol

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like the pump i have etc

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I think it was like 40 something

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can pump up over 100 feet vertical

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infact

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you could even look at sump pumps with a 55 gallon barrel

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they make 12vv sump pumps that can do what you want

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:33 PM

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the cisterns aren't moving

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I don't have anywhere feasible for them to go

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:33 PM

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can't make a stand right ehere they are to raise them?

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:34 PM

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no, it's under my deck

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:34 PM

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oh

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:34 PM

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and I can't go much higher or I won't be able to get the pipes into the top of the top one

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:34 PM

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well so much for that idea lol

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and there is noway to drop a pump inside one?

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if you can get a oump in one it will siphon just fine from the one next to it

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:36 PM

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I'd have to drill a hole to do that

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which ain't happenin

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:36 PM

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so?

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:36 PM

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the two tanks will sit one atop the other

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the output of the bottom one will feed into the top of the bottom one

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once the bottom one is full the top one will fill

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and once it's filled, it'll back up out of an overflow and that'll go to a drain basin

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so any holes that weren't manufactured into the bottom tank aren't going in or there will be a literal ton of pressure on whatever I use to seal the hole

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:38 PM

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lol burry a 5 gallon bucket and stick the pump in that and have the bottom cistern drain into the bucket

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:38 PM

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I'm already skeptical of putting the big 3" hole in the top one for my bulkhead connection

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once the thing's full of water I'm pretty sure the two tons of water is going to come blasting out of the bottom ball valve when I open it

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I'm just not sure what it'll do any time between completely full and half full

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:42 PM

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you won't get what you want without a pump no matter what. you'd have to raise them pretty high like city water towers to get the pressure your looking for

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even those use pumps

last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 8:47 PM

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yeah, which is why I'm looking at pumping solutions

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 8:50 PM

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thinking with your setup that harbor freight 50 buck 110vv pump is your only solution

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 9:28 PM

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https://i.redd.it/9xg3otk4oms41.jpg

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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hmm why was #ios_and_mac-archived moved lol

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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This is the way

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BabyYodaSip

forest edge Apr 13, 2020, 9:34 PM

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@clear ferry pretty sure most Norwegians are #2 as well 😋

clear ferry Apr 13, 2020, 9:35 PM

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TomStare

near sedge Apr 13, 2020, 9:38 PM

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hello, do you know, if i have a bug, must be open an issue on github or can i talk about it in discord ?

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 9:42 PM

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@near sedge its usually a good idea to search github for issues to see if one was opened for the one you have or one was resolved with a fix

near sedge Apr 13, 2020, 9:46 PM

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yes i just finish to search but it's complicated for me in english. But in view of all result in forum or git, i think this is not resolved...

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Problem is, when i try to juste send snapshot of a camera, smtp return an error with the file... But it's work with a file i uploaded...

shy comet Apr 13, 2020, 9:51 PM

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you can try asking for help in that in either #integrations-archived or #cameras-archived or you can open up an issue on github

near sedge Apr 13, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Thanks 🙂

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2020, 10:51 PM

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@last dirge https://youtu.be/ZON5UuibJXI

YouTube

AvE

BOLTR: PLC | Steaming Turd Emojies

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last dirge Apr 13, 2020, 10:54 PM

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@hushed basalt I know very well of Uncle Bumblefuck

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I was looking for someone with firsthand knowledge

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"I bought this thing here and it was decent" kind of thing

green inlet Apr 13, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Might this be our new world?

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http://www.Getkeysmart.Com/Cleankey

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tidal bronze Apr 14, 2020, 12:20 AM

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@green inlet did you figure it out?

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 12:21 AM

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I could see that cleankey being what scratches the living hell out touch screens other people have to use but can't cause some dickwad used a cleankey on it before them

somber harness Apr 14, 2020, 12:41 AM

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My HA are pretty damn slow and buggy since 0.108. I run it on a overkill Thinkserver machine...

green inlet Apr 14, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I gave up. Don’t think my tv is supported

scenic radish Apr 14, 2020, 1:01 AM

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No issues on 0.108.0 or .2

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 1:29 AM

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@last dirge PLC Tech here, just confirming your wanting to consolidate your water into one tank?

surreal axle Apr 14, 2020, 1:45 AM

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if anyone is looking for a google astant the lenovo smart clocks with google are half off on best buy rn

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like 30 bucks

brisk glen Apr 14, 2020, 1:46 AM

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google...🤢

surreal axle Apr 14, 2020, 1:46 AM

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I dont mind them for voice controle

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amazon google no real differance

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 1:55 AM

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apple...🤢
@brisk glen fixed

brisk glen Apr 14, 2020, 1:55 AM

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lol

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@forest edge at this point, the mac is becoming a windows vm server for me and my wife

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a mac vmware server lol

surreal axle Apr 14, 2020, 2:01 AM

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I use kvm for my vm

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on unraid

brisk glen Apr 14, 2020, 2:01 AM

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idk if linux would like my late mac mini

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I really like the low power use

surreal axle Apr 14, 2020, 2:01 AM

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prob wouldnt care

brisk glen Apr 14, 2020, 2:02 AM

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keeps the electric bill at $40

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oh the linux kernel cares

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it cares a lot

surreal axle Apr 14, 2020, 2:03 AM

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I mean iv seen linux on macss a lot my work runs a old mac pro as a webserver

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on cent os

brisk glen Apr 14, 2020, 2:03 AM

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interrupt storms, now powering off hardware thus generating a lot of heat

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linux and mac is not a happy family

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an intel nuc however

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 2:08 AM

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are you haven't to cut back with the covid on the loose @brisk glen

brisk glen Apr 14, 2020, 2:09 AM

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I have, money is super tight

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 2:09 AM

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you down south where the tornado hit?

brisk glen Apr 14, 2020, 2:09 AM

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south, but not over there

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 2:09 AM

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well thats good

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well hopefully you don't end up with just a single rpi to work on

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Resilio sync is pretty good

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I'd highly recommend it for people who have large site to site transfer needs

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Without using a cloud intermediary

last dirge Apr 14, 2020, 2:25 AM

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@rare condor the PLC was to control a pump based on a pressure sensor and flow sensors

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 2:40 AM

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@last dirge I would recommend a Siemens Logo (around 120USD or so on eBay), has modbus for HASS integration, has nice control like PI loops, designed for hobbyists, IoT and those starting out. Has examples for tank control and pressure monitoring.

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I have worked in water industry for Water Treatment Plants so I have bit of insight if you need any guidance

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https://new.siemens.com/global/en/products/automation/systems/industrial/plc/logo.html

siemens.com Global Website

LOGO! Logic Module

LOGO! saves space in the control cabinet, and lets you easily implement functions, such as time-delay switches, counters and auxiliary relays.

last dirge Apr 14, 2020, 2:49 AM

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that's spendy

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 3:03 AM

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@rare condor you're putting the idea of using PLCs in my head

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I've always wanted to put rapsberry pis in each room/cluster of room to wire sensors and switches etc

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But maybe a good PLC would be a better option

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I want to avoid wireless and batteries like the plague for my permanent setups

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 3:13 AM

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@last dirge That's literally the cheapest PLC money can buy, in that case you probably want an Arduino based solution

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PLCs aren't cheap they are however incredibly over engineered and reliable

last dirge Apr 14, 2020, 3:14 AM

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yeah, I know

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this isn't mission cricital stuff but if the price difference was negligible I'd do it

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 4:48 AM

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@last dirge It isn't unfortunately the cheapest PLC will cost you $120 USD, keep in mind you are getting something that can survive EMI, voltage spikes, capable of interfacing with industrial equipment, uses industrial protocols, has in built 24v tolenent IO, AI and relay controlled DO. Its a different beast

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Click! PLCs from Automation Direct are workhorses for us

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we use them for everything, and yeah, they're about $120 or so with ethernet, but you can stack GPIO on them for miles

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and they crash maybe.... actually, never seen one crash.

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Um hey question, is there any verdict as to what's going on with the CPU hogging on 108?

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Are you using Modbus there are some big bugs with 0.108 with Modbus

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:14 AM

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ha, OK no two different things. First off, yeah with the CLICk PLCs we use TCP Modbus and it's a rock

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Secondly, some weirdness for some users on 108 where the CPU / RAM usage goes up after each restart, creeps up until the CPU is sizzling and it runs like hell

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having zero to do with MODBUS

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Well I am having a bug due to async implementation of new Modbus component where its eating CPU under 0.108

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Not seen that here @tough vault but I have so much CPU and ram that it would take a while

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:16 AM

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I'm on a Pi 3

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Working on fixing it atm

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Pi 🤢

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Pi😁

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Yeah well, I didn't steal a Nuc from work before they let us all go, so, my fault I guess

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I like the Pi because I can mount it with one screw and a zip tie to the back of a door

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:17 AM

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I just brought home a whole rack 10 years ago , and have been replacing servers over the years lmao

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:18 AM

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OK lets talk power draw though

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NUC vs a Pi

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:18 AM

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He's Norwegian

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Their power is free

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Or near enough makes no difference

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Don't care much with 0.008$ per kwh

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:18 AM

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the Pi is usually snappy enough that it's FINE

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hahaha fucker I pay $0.20

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:18 AM

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0.008$ per kwh wtf?

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I pay $0.48

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:18 AM

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and have two electric cars and a 5 KW air conditioner

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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If I had Norwegian power bills I'd just rack and stack anything I could get my hands on

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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You guys suck wtf

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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they can keep their winters.

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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In saying that gas is even more

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here

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Aussie power bills :S

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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doesn't norway have like 40% electric cars?

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why would you buy gas?

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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@tough vault should I mention that electric cars are subsidized in Norway, we pay $80k for a full ludicrous edition Tesla S and $25k for a full range be e-golf 🐶

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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We get next to no royalties for gas then buy it back at a high price

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Sell low buy high. Fantastic strategy

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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@tough vault 52% of new cars sold are electric right now

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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we paid $19K for our eGolf, used.

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Although gas really should stay in the ground

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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@hushed basalt can't discuss politics but that is very much due to such.

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:21 AM

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I let some other sucker subsidize mine

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:21 AM

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In Australia

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Australia is sunny

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Without subsidiaries the Tesla would be $180k ish here

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:21 AM

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You don't need/want gas in the home

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:21 AM

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lol not in Tassie

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Induction stove, heat pump HWS. Done.

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:21 AM

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hey PS how's this virus bullshit going in Australia?

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Better and no fracking or burning toxic fumes

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:22 AM

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@hushed basalt My house uses gas for stove, water and heating

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It will cost a fortune to replace

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:22 AM

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I would leave the hws until it dies

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But I'd look to change stove and heating soon as you can

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:22 AM

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How much electricity do you use per year with two ev @tough vault ? I have none and i use 32-38k kWh per year

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:22 AM

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and still gas is cheaper per output of heat in Aus (even inclusive of the absurd daily supply charge)

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:22 AM

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You don't want that stuff in your home

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Plus when you burn gas for heating if it's not flued you have to vent the exhaust

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Which means you're pulling in cold air to replace it

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:23 AM

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18 kwh 4 days a week for the eGolf

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Gas stove 🤢

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:23 AM

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It has flume

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:23 AM

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I wish rentals had induction

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:24 AM

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I prefer electricity because I can't work or fix anything electricity I could

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:24 AM

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We sell probably 95% induction for the last 10 years here

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Also would prefer it not to pay supply charge

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:24 AM

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People have a fetish for gas stoves here

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Yeah I've put 12 megawatt-hours through the charger in the last 5 years

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Plus installation for gas is very expensive if you're building

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:24 AM

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but I'd also charge at work

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Can save a shitload there

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Are electric cars becoming two way charging now

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As in supplying power to the house. Whatever it's called

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:25 AM

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@hushed basalt If you buy a house with it preinstalled its cheaper to keep using it

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The investment costs to replace all the kit are a lot

midnight adder Apr 14, 2020, 5:25 AM

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wave

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Yeah i wouldn't replace a hws that's working

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Same with Gas DUcted Heating

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:26 AM

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I can drive 700km in a day, so the Tesla s is the only car that fits my needs if I need to buy an ev

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:26 AM

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it costs around $2000k to replace min

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:26 AM

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oh hey speaking of gas, funny story I heard in northern california - All hot water heaters need to have a gas shutoff valve to pass inspection...... which in at least one noteworthy case, caused a guy to fail his home inspection

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Stoves aren't really a cost thing though. It's about performance and pollution

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:26 AM

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But the Tesla is a shitty car

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So I don't want it

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:26 AM

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The Bolt / Ampera-E is an OK car, but the range goes to hell in the cold

midnight adder Apr 14, 2020, 5:27 AM

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as for every ev

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Yeah, useless with the -30 we get here @tough vault

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:27 AM

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yeah but the GM is especially bad

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Supposedly the Kona does better than any of them in the cold

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:27 AM

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The GM flopped in Norway

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:27 AM

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One thing I don't get is hybrids

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:27 AM

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It's a great little car in California

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I tow a boat with mine

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:27 AM

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I have an Opel

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man some weird design choices

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Hey Haxxa, wanna trade badges?

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:28 AM

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like lets install the oil pan in front of a beam

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ew no GM

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I went with Opel to avoid Holden

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Opel IS GM

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:28 AM

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I know

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:28 AM

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OK just checking

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:28 AM

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I'd be curious to know if prius's truly had a lower total environmental cost to a Carolla

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:28 AM

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but it makes me feel a bit better when friends ask and don't realise

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get less critism

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Only good thing to come out of Australia, the Holden Monaro

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:29 AM

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eh, it's mostly a Korean car anyway

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:29 AM

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I drove a holden Calais for a few weeks

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:29 AM

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yeah but they're not making Holdens any more or so I heard

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Really nice station wagon

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I miss station wagons

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:30 AM

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the shaggin' wagon

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:30 AM

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I've had station wagons for 20 years, except the Audi A8 L I had

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:30 AM

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my first was a $200 ford wagon, got my money's worth

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:30 AM

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They're almost unheard of here

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Toyota hasn't released a wagon here in like 15 years

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Hyundai never has

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:31 AM

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I've had Audi, Subaru, Volvo, Saab station wagons

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Subaru have them still

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But the outbacks are ridiculous

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Yeah the old 70's and 80's wagons were dope though, you could fit a whole sheet of plywood in the back

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Bulky heavy with low cargo space

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:32 AM

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@tough vault Saab 9-5 and Volvo V70 are still recent cars with huge boots

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:32 AM

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tailgunner seats in the back for going up to camp in the summer,

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:32 AM

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The Skoda Superb is massive

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:33 AM

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the skoda IS a big car, isn't it?

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 5:33 AM

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@clear ferry ride before the audi https://briff.me/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Horse-Power-Car-2-Horse-Pulling-Half-Car.jpg

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Wife really wants to have 3 kids

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Its a trap

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:33 AM

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I can't even imagine having 3 car seats

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:33 AM

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It's impossible

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Like. What a hassle

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:34 AM

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lol worried about car seats over kids

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:34 AM

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They need booster seats atleast until they're 8

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:34 AM

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@hushed basalt have a friend who has that, the ford Smax previous generation really fits three kids and luggage

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Car seats are a bitch, take it from a dad of two. Logistics are a nightmare

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Another friend had three kids with the VW Touareg

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No issues

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:34 AM

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three, yeah it can be done for sure

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pain though.... pain

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and nevermind the car

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everywhere

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:35 AM

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We have an ix35

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:35 AM

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just pain

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:35 AM

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And the large pram pretty much owns the whole boot

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Can't even fit in wheels first

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Has to go sideways

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:35 AM

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The Tesla model X is supposedly good for three seats too

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The ix35 is a joke

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Wife wanted an suv ;(

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Like the wife's Tiguan, told her we should have gotten the touareg

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:36 AM

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All suvs of that size are the same though

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Yep

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:36 AM

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SFA usable space

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Hence touareg

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BMW X5 is decent too, and x7 now too

midnight adder Apr 14, 2020, 5:36 AM

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+1 for touareg, but heck: this car is so ugly from the inside

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:36 AM

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I try to stay away from euro cars in Australia

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 AM

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so what DO you guys buy?

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 AM

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First gen touareg is a Porsche basically

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 AM

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There's a lot of hyundai, toyota, nissan,

midnight adder Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 AM

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usability was not on their list, you feel like in a cockpit of a plane

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 AM

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makes sense

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Lots of people buy euros but they're usually corporate city types

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A euro car is automatically a status symbol here

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:38 AM

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I would like the VW atlas, but it is us only

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Saw a review of it, most American review I ever read,"car only has 18 cup holders, beaten by the Subaru with 19"

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:39 AM

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drinks gas and is huge, no spanks

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but gas is now under $3 in los angeles, this summer everybody will buy giant trucks, and next summer it'll be $5.50

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:40 AM

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@tough vault let me tell you about Norwegian gas prices, before Corona we were at $2.5 per liter

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:40 AM

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That's about $8

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Yeah I've been to Europe

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Our gas prices are 85-90% tax though

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So stimulated high

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Ours are like 40% tax

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Keep putting that sovereign wealth fund to EV subsidies, you'll have the last laugh, I'll guarantee it.

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:41 AM

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I'd love to not have to drive though

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Bring on the auto taxi drones

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:41 AM

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It's a jokez they should have stopped the subsidiary at 100k cars tbh

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Same with road toll

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:42 AM

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No toll roads here

midnight adder Apr 14, 2020, 5:42 AM

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same here

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Viva la resistance

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Hey so, question, am I stupid for wanting to move to New Zealand?

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Chew on that while I go wiggle a faulty USB cable 😛

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:46 AM

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NZ is nice

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I was there 25 years ago or so

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From what I can remember

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Nice climate, friendly people and nice houses

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:49 AM

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yeah, it did seem that way. Whereabouts were you?

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Auckland area

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Think we were down in Hamilton too

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Yep. Hamilton seemed pretty, and I don't mean this in a bad way at all, but real just average and normal. Rented a motorhome from a guy there.

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My kids keep asking about it, every time we see something green, they're like "Oh hey it's like new zealand" and I just sit there and scratch my head and think about smog, shitty schools, crime, droughts, wildfires

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anecdotally, crime is up since the coronavirus shutdown here in Los Angeles

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but at least people aren't dying in droves here.

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drivebys, car chases and domestic violence especially are getting weird

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sorry, I'll shut up, this isn't a therapy session

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Is it so wrong to want to go to war with china after everything and then finding out they are charging other countries for N95 masks that fall apart in the shipping container before even being taken out?

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 6:00 AM

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yeah, seems wrong

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I doubt it's government policy to be sleazy businesspeople

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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@tough vault come to Norway, we have green too, and white, and EVs lmao

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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can American emergency room physicians practice there with their american credentials?

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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And you won't get shot here

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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They charged Italy millions of dollars for PPE supplies etc and Italy found out that China had sold them their own supplies they had "donated" to china when the outbreak first started.

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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hah! fuckers! Seriously?

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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No idea, but I'm pretty sure we honour medical degrees from most western countries

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 6:03 AM

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I grew up in Maine, so I'm familiar with the winters, though not as intense as a proper arctic winter

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 6:03 AM

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And health workers are well paid here

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 6:03 AM

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but those winters....my wife would never have it

vast dove Apr 14, 2020, 6:03 AM

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I dont think all health workers agree with you @clear ferry Nurses etc..

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 6:04 AM

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not all those in the medical field can even afford health insurance. how fucked up is that

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 6:04 AM

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doctor student debt is like... a thing, ya know....wow. yeah it is.

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 6:04 AM

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@vast dove I have one sister who is a nurse, one who is a radiologist, my mother is a teacher in health related studies, I don't know about your experience peepoShrug

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 6:05 AM

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how many times have you been told to bend ovver and grab your ankles atx?

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 6:05 AM

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@tough vault oh we don't pay excessive amounts to get an education either

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@forest edge by you? Often

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 6:06 AM

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ohhh yet you still comply

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 6:06 AM

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the part about not being able to afford health insurance is a real shame

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Universal health care

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Hello

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 6:06 AM

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our heath system is a real shame

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Kaiser in California isn't bad

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it "just works"

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but the private insurance thing? What a nightmare, through and through

wet pilot Apr 14, 2020, 6:08 AM

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if you live nearby one of their facilities

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Universal health care even covers IVF treatment here

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Yeah that's just the thing

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you need to be near them, but as a model, it's a pretty good one, one worth replicatinig

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because the switch to universal healthcare is like just flipping a switch from there

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anyway, good golly, what a mess

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hard to make an honest living anymore

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when we were kids, being a doctor meant something

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 6:10 AM

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not if you go off grid

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 6:10 AM

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now it just means long-ass hours, massive liability, and crushing student debt

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@forest edge you mean, pot farming?

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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herbal medicines and stock up on iodine

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no i mean like those who live in like Alaska or other parts where you don't pay taxes etc

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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well, OK sure, but good luck getting a blood transfusion or kidney stones dealt with

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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100% off grid

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yea there is no doctors or hospitals

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but you said honest living

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 6:12 AM

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no that's true

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my dad's doing some shit like that (and growing weed) but I realize that one day I'm going to find out that he's been dead for months

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has a 12V battery

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a generator

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and 5 dogs

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 6:13 AM

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well if he's growing his own food and the water is clean enough

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 6:13 AM

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chainsaw

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 6:13 AM

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he might outlast you

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 6:14 AM

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hah yeah I tried to convince him to grow food

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"fuck that, I'll just go to the food bank co-op"

forest edge Apr 14, 2020, 6:14 AM

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lol

tough vault Apr 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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so I'm growing potatoes in dirty Los Angeles soil and he's feeding chicken thighs to his dogs and eating apple strudel for himself 2 meals a day

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It's really something, but I still love my dad

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so I guess my point is , it all goes to show there's lots of ways to live

clear ferry Apr 14, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Ah, Oslo is so nice and quiet to drive in and park in during lock down

strange vapor Apr 14, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Booted my Cobalt Raq 4.... ASP, Frontpage Extenstion, PHP 4, Interbase 6....

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The HD sounds a bit dodgy, but everythign works 🙂

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 8:29 AM

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Damn it there a giant huntsmen spider blocking my IP camera

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literally happens every week now

clever mortar Apr 14, 2020, 8:33 AM

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Turn off the IR

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 8:33 AM

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Good idea then I can't see anything including the spider

clever mortar Apr 14, 2020, 8:34 AM

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Put up a separate IR flood

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Insects are attracted to the IR source, so if you "move" it away from the camera, your view won't be blocked

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 8:34 AM

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That requires effort

clever mortar Apr 14, 2020, 8:34 AM

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So does complaining 😛

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 8:35 AM

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I don't like doing things that require me to do stuff

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like moving

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😛

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Whats the code to fix it

clever mortar Apr 14, 2020, 8:35 AM

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Reboot reality

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 8:35 AM

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I prefer simple software fixes like a secret lazer spider killing api?

clever mortar Apr 14, 2020, 8:36 AM

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Probably hidden somewhere there

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Along with controls for the orbital mind control lasers

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 9:13 AM

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@rare condor I've found the hikvision exir stuff to be less likely to attract bugs

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Maybe simply because it's more efficient so less heat loss

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Its ok I found a blow torch

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Ah the old bait and switch

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 9:14 AM

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😛

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 9:14 AM

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You could also try water

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rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 9:14 AM

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Nah I can't be bothered replacing them tbh, they are decent cameras

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I just have to deal with cleaning them once in a while

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Also surface spray

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Not on anything clear though

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Especially anything DEET based

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 9:17 AM

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I have 140l of isopropyl alcohol probs end up using that

hushed basalt Apr 14, 2020, 9:20 AM

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Make some hand santiser

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 9:20 AM

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Yeah probs could

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I just spray it directly on my hands

lapis drift Apr 14, 2020, 9:25 AM

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hello everyone. i guess here is the place to introduce myself. I am Toji and I am running home assistant 108.2 on a R-Pi3 (might update to 108.3 soon...we'll see) and although I ahve been messing around with HA since 0.78 I still have no real clue of how everything works (copy pasting what I needed together ever sicne I started) I am not a programmer so sometimes the documentation doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I'll try to solve problems on my own but there will undouptedly things i'll need help with

rare condor Apr 14, 2020, 10:05 AM

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Cool welcome Toji

fading zodiac Apr 14, 2020, 11:03 AM

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Is there people from Openhab here?

clever mortar Apr 14, 2020, 11:06 AM

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We have some escapees

fading zodiac Apr 14, 2020, 11:28 AM

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I'm trying to get to the guy doing the deCONZ Openhab binding 🙂

tired river Apr 14, 2020, 11:30 AM

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Hi im new to HA. Im confused with this:

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Its HACS but it does not seem to work correctly

clever mortar Apr 14, 2020, 11:34 AM

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#integrations-archived @tired river

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@fading zodiac Maybe try the deCONZ Discord then 😉

tired river Apr 14, 2020, 11:34 AM

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oh ok

fading zodiac Apr 14, 2020, 11:35 AM

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That's the one i'm trying to fill with openhab people 😂

clever mortar Apr 14, 2020, 11:35 AM

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They have a forum too you know 😉