not because i spent more or because someone told me to, im not a sheep
#the-water-cooler
sour escarp
last plaza
I never buy anything with blue light. period. If it comes with it, I don't care as long as it doesn't interfere with the reading. but would never ask for it. most computer screens you can adjust temperature if it bothers you
again - personal preference, don't want you to get robbed.... it is a dangerous world out there 🙂
sour escarp
yah actually that is a great point, on my MBP the light doesn't bother me at all, at the time i got these, was using a thinkpad that was really harsh
last plaza
if yo are happy, you are happy. that's what matters!
sour escarp
haha yah I'm not getting robbed, I can assure you no one is looking out for my best interest more than me 🤣
last plaza
lol
sour escarp
you can ask my tech data rep today who just got his ass completely chewed out for the first time by me
last plaza
lol - do tell more!
sour escarp
they fucked up on a SQL server 2019 downgrade license and now want me to eat $800 for their mistake
they got the sql 2019 part but didn't quite get the downgrade part....
last plaza
the licensing can get complex
sour escarp
hmj, 10pm for me, kind of freaky when you look away for a sec then look back and it has changed 😆
rain swift
I heard you should start resting your eyes an hour before bed
sour escarp
skala, i know, which is why I partially rely on my technology provider to make sure I get the right stuff
rain swift
I thought about trying that circadian rhythm thing
sour escarp
well, i trusted them once and thew screwed me, never again
rain swift
open source ftw, no licenses lol
forest edge
take care of your eyes, sucks ass when you start to lose what you once had
rather lose hearing to a degree than vvision to a degree
last plaza
none of the on-prem SQL server licenses can be transferred to cloud - especially anything but azure. they squeeze the hell out of you
sour escarp
i had retinoblastoma when i was 2 and lost my eye so taking care of it is not an option!
ugh, hate MS so bad
you have to literally be a certified expert in their licensing to fully understand it
sour escarp
lol
not sure what you mean, i rarely goto that place hehe
my g/f goes all the time tho, maybe i'll ask her 😛
last plaza
lol - better off not going there... I got wife and kids, and it is never ending
forest edge
lol kohls cash
sour escarp
i need stuff, she goes there and buys it for me, my woman is kohls cash as far as i'm concerned
forest edge
bastards send 10 bucks by mail and someone needs to spend it or else it's wasted!
last plaza
they give you discount for the next purchase, you go there, and they give you discount again - you keep going until they empty your pockets. then you realize the price you paid is the same price elsewhere
sour escarp
ohhhh, that is the casino model
last plaza
lol exactly
rain swift
the house always wins
sour escarp
well they are fucked now, everyone goes there to return stupid amazon purchases
forest edge
not complaining about that
last plaza
lol
sour escarp
they are going to kill that eventually, you watch..
last plaza
even target does it... I think
sour escarp
nothing worse than being a return center for the largest retail website ever
last plaza
I mean amazon returns at Target
sour escarp
UPS store does too
last plaza
Its been a while I stepped into one of those...
sour escarp
my stepdad actually works at a returns facility (retired construction guy), he has a lot of good stories hehe
last plaza
always good to know what happens behind the scenes
sour escarp
yah he has given me some good knowledge about how to know if you have received an item that has been processed by returns
and I have on quite a few occasions received returned stuff
last plaza
care to share? 🙂
sour escarp
sure, let me get a pic so I can show it
last plaza
that information will be invaluable!!!
last plaza
ok..
forest edge
the missing keys wasn't obvious enough? lol jk
last plaza
lol
sour escarp
it looked brand new!
you wouldn't have known
ok so generally you will see a barcode that looks like this over the top of the old product barcode.. on this particular product they did not but it'll be identified as an LPN
you see that sticker, it's been processed by returns
last plaza
ok... that sticker is not from manufacturer then
sour escarp
correct but if you're not paying close attention, you wont notice because they will typically put it over the top of the old manufacturer bar code
and sometimes the stickers are the exact same size
obviously it entirely depends on the product
last plaza
never paid attention to that level... good to know! thank you!
sour escarp
most of us are so happy to get the product we don't even look at the barcode, start tearing into it like it is a christmas present
last plaza
lol
last plaza
looking over additional details on LPN barcodes https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/lpn-number-on-fba-inventory-removal-orders-items/13265
dull chasm
this network shit is driving me crazy
last plaza
you got hacked @dull chasm
dull chasm
got to get rid of that 2735 or if i have fixed alot it goes away over time?
@last plaza lol
hushed basalt
Garage organisation time!
Put up the back board and the overhead lights
Progress 1%
sour escarp
hehe bad, i just got that same helping hands
hushed basalt
So much junk to go through
last plaza
that looks clean... I am totally embarrassed to post my garage pics
dull chasm
trade ya network shit for garage org
sour escarp
ska, same here, no way im gonna post those
last plaza
lmao
hushed basalt
sour escarp
or my WFH setup either, papers all over my desk everywhere
hushed basalt
I might change this to a panavise or something
I want a ball joint vise in the middle of the bench not the edge
tidal bronze
last plaza
were you mixing epoxy in those plastic cups @hushed basalt ?
hushed basalt
It's coffee haha
dull chasm
@tidal bronze you where 100 percent right about the ap aclr
hushed basalt
I'm not mixing epoxy in my dual wall tumblers. Those things are expensive haha
last plaza
I am obsessed with vise restoration videos - got a couple, and I might try one this summer
forest edge
@tidal bronze saw that earlier. crazy stuff
tidal bronze
Man that's bad.
sour escarp
ugh terrible
hushed basalt
Need to find a home for all this crap
rain swift
bomb hit the place.
forest edge
@hushed basalt send it to atx
sour escarp
dumpster
tidal bronze
@dull chasm range is good right? 🙂
rain swift
any working electronics can be shipped to me at your cost.
dull chasm
yea it totally waxes the ass of the apnano for the esp's ...i got a nano in same room and it didnt have as solid connection as the lc......
which is 40 ish feet away
last plaza
@hushed basalt you got empty shelves there, why in the world you have all the stuff on the floor?
forest edge
wanted the room to look like most middle class american basements
last plaza
lol
sour escarp
ska, i have to laugh about that, one day I walked out into my garage, HUGE mess all over the floor and nice metal shelves in the corner with barely anything on them
just kind of face palmed at that point
trail crag
@hushed basalt someone murdered your sofa and tried to hide it in the crawlspace
sour escarp
haha
last plaza
couldnt tell if it is a basement or a garage - looking at the crown molding, assuming it is basement
forest edge
that's probably a standard au guest bed storage spot lol
can't tell if that's an empty toliet paper roll on the floor or what lol
sour escarp
If it was a full one he’d be getting offers right now
last plaza
@tidal bronze that video is heartbreaking and scary! NYC is already at the tipping point now, can't image what would happen next!
tidal bronze
Yep very troubled after seeing that.
last plaza
looks like cpap machines will quickly go out of reach too
tidal bronze
Next week will be crazy.
last plaza
not leaving the house! no matter what happens!!!
forest edge
i don't get how there isn't more rioting or anything
rain swift
@forest edge it's coming.
forest edge
not so sure
forest edge
yea but unemployment with a 30% increase kind of corrects that
forest edge
I think if people were going to really go apeshit they would have by now.. but then who knows we'll havve to watch LA
but hell i thought NY would be a shit show
rain swift
give it a few more weeks
when people's money starts running out
people are freaking out buying up all the tp and getting into fist fights now
sour escarp
right now people are getting paid to sit at home, they are getting a $1200 check (if they qualify) and they are getting a 3 month forbearance on their mortgages
rain swift
what about after that when you have no job?
sour escarp
people are partying like it's 1999 haha
forest edge
lol
rain swift
I don't want their check, I want to keep my job
sour escarp
i don't even qualify for the stupid fucking check, $1200 is a joke anyway if you ask me
rain swift
they can't can't keep printing money, the entire system will collapse, and then it goes mad max
yep
sour escarp
it'll create inflation
rain swift
I lose my job, I'm rioting. 😛
hushed basalt
Yay for our cash savings being devalued
sour escarp
we were already heading towards inflation, this will make it worse
forest edge
@tidal bronze get that 360 camera mount printed yet? we'll need you to be our eyes in the sky if LA starts to burn lol
hushed basalt
Meanwhile property owners will be protected long term.
sour escarp
your only hedge against inflation is 15 or 30 year fixed loans on a mortgage, then charge sky high rents
tidal bronze
@forest edge hold your horses Gina.....
hushed basalt
But to get a mortgage you need deposit plus high income
So you need to save for it
rain swift
put all your money into brass, lead, and things you can eat.
when the money aint worth nothing, everything you have will be lol.
sour escarp
yeah but moving that stuff always comes at a cost too unless you have nothing but time
last plaza
Venezuela all over!
rain swift
even when you buy a house you never own it.
stop paying property taxes, see who really owns it.
hushed basalt
Yeah you subscribe to a land lease haha
We don't have property taxes here though
We have stamp duty which punishes new entrants and transactioners
While people who hold houses for decades contribute nothing to that state tax pool
forest edge
wtf how are the au numbers still so low?
hushed basalt
And councils charge rates
sour escarp
yeah that is weird
forest edge
something tells me AU isn't reporting thier numbers lol
forest edge
barely testing at all lol
hushed basalt
I think we do 10k tests a day
sour escarp
last plaza
yup - someone posted it earlier, it is scary!!! USA has passed Italy already
sour escarp
what i posted is unemployment numbers
last plaza
yup - I found this on the same page 😉
last plaza
yes, of course! big fan of it
orchid rose
as someone (probably Abraham Lincoln) once said, there are lies, damned lies, and then there are statistics. Better take those with a grain of salt as the US is likely doing much more testing than most other countries
forest edge
i dunno about that
over half of all tests done were done in NY alone
people being turned away with some symptoms but not having severe enough
orchid rose
That's the case in everywhere basically but it's still more likely for the US to test people from what I've read. We gave up testing anyone without severe symptoms here after a week or so
just doesn't make sense with our limited tests. Meanwhile the US can test far more and the system allows it as well
orchid rose
In a week or two one would think it'll actually stabilize. It did in most of Europe at least. I still think - as gruesome as it sounds - that death tolls are the best indicators in this
forest edge
normally I would agree but our goverment wants to mix healthy people with sick people by easter
orchid rose
I'll try to steer away from forbidden topics here but I think that's mostly rhetoric. I don't think you should read into it that much, but rather wait a few days and see how the statistics develop
forest edge
no choice but to wait, we're home locked lol
rain swift
orchid rose
How home locked are you Sonoma? Everything hasn't been banned here yet
forest edge
like everyone else, stay at home orders, everything non-essential closed etc etc
orchid rose
Shopping centers and stores?
orchid rose
Damn, you're having it tougher than we are
forest edge
you all encouraged to mingle?
orchid rose
asked to keep distance but stores and bars have been open for now. That'll change soon though, within 24h
orchid rose
about as far as possible, Finland
wet rose
Was there a beta release this week or are things different due to COVID19?
forest edge
you got like 1k cases and they are just now thinking of closing things up? lol
shy comet
beta is next week @wet rose
orchid rose
Most things, like schools and such have been closed for two weeks or so now. We're currently thinking of locking down the 1.3 million people that live in the capital area so they don't infect the rest of us. You know, fun times.
forest edge
lol
shy comet
the longer they take to do it the worse itll get
forest edge
thats why this virus spread as quick as it did. so many people brushed it off as just the flu
shy comet
yup
forest edge
and the fact that there are STILL people who continue to view it as such is nuts
shy comet
especially when u test only those who show certain symptons you have no idea what the real number is
orchid rose
That said, I still don't know what the actual plan is. If herd immunity is the key or not
shy comet
i think its just the hope that it will work at this point
rain swift
Well, when your government, who did things like test syphilis on people just to see what it would do to them tells you something, you aren't dumb for being skeptical. 😛
last plaza
Crap!!! These numbers are only going up! 😩
Crap!!! These numbers are only going up! 😩
orchid rose
dshokouhi, the weird thing is that I'm more worried about the opposite right now. We currently have almost no cases with the actions we've taken and the lack of population we have...
So if the original idea was to get a large proportion of the population infected for herd immunity, it doesn't seem to be happening. Instead the capital area is getting sick and the rest of us are sitting at home doing nothing but waiting. It just feels weird and while I find the whole thing intriguing, the lack of transparency has been extremely annoying to me.
rain swift
where do you live?
orchid rose
Northern Finland
rain swift
installing an HA integration is only asking to drive yourself insane.
ahhh
step off a bus in the capital and sneeze a few times, that'll shake em up.
orchid rose
Capital is like 600km (400 miles?) away and I'm sure someone would stop me before I get there
busses here have 1-3 people in them
rain swift
booo
last plaza
Finland population ~5 Million, Ohio Population 11 Million 🙂
last plaza
half of our state population
orchid rose
Quality > Quantity
rain swift
there's no zombies yet, that's all i'm sayin'
shy comet
lol
rain swift
worst. apocalypse. evar.
shy comet
i think LA is at like 12 mil
orchid rose
At least zombies are visible 😐
last plaza
CA is 40 Million, LA is 12
rain swift
and they eat braaaiinnnssss.
this whole thing has made me even more want to move rural.
shy comet
i love seeing all these newscasters at home lol
rain swift
sissies.
I was gonna go into work the first week, they made me take my laptop home.
i'd be in the news studio in my underwear on air rollin around in an office chair talkin bout' WEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
orchid rose
Not me. I'd never want to live in the wilderness tbh, but I guess that depends on your viewpoint, lol
rain swift
well, you see how new york is fairing
how many people on that tiny island?
almost 8 million
and like 30k are infected
I'll take my land in the woods thanks lol
orchid rose
Still I'd take NY over most other places in the world
last plaza
NYC is releasing more inmates into the open due to covid scare
last plaza
Just what we need when things are horrible outside
orchid rose
skalavala in NY?
shy comet
bill gates is predicting the US peak to be end of april....wow
last plaza
Ohio @orchid rose
orchid rose
Link for that dshokouhi?
rain swift
bill gates huh.
I have stories, but anyways lol maybe I should get a 3D printer since everything on amazon takes forever to get in now, gonna get bored.
tidal bronze
So no vitamin C, cold medicine or emergen-c anywhere. WTF
Cold medicine isles and vitamin isles are empty. Drove to like 4 pharmacies.
rain swift
everyone is hoarding everything, 8 billion people on this planet is too many. 😛
last plaza
@tidal bronze get fresh oranges - better vitamin c than the supplements
tidal bronze
Got plenty in the backyard but I don't like oranges 😦
green inlet
People are crazy. They can’t just get what they need and move on. Being from Florida, I have seen it for years. We never got toilet paper when it was “cool” 🤣. Still can’t find any....haven’t really looked that hard though.....
hushed basalt
I have about 70 rolls :/
last dirge
my brother got me the Charmin "Forever Roll" starter kit as a joke for Christmas
it came with three of those giant fuckers
trail crag
nice
last dirge
who's laughin now?
hushed basalt
Hehe
rare condor
People laughed when I bought a TOTO wifi connected toilet, who is laughing now, I am so ready for the apocalypse!
My Xiaomi Vaccum with a hand gun mounted on it will protect me!! who needs a dog anyway!
low harness
But there's no TP. You wouldn't last a week!
rare condor
@hushed basalt You're the reason why coles and wooly's is always out of stock 😛
hushed basalt
I'm changing my pantry system to a minimart kanban system
Basically i just have one of everything I use in the kitchen. Open or nearly empty containers count as one as well
Then I have a min and max stock level of supplies in the garage
So day to day I resupply the kitchen when something runs out
And I shop soley off the min/max levels of the minimart
And stock a bit more when it's on special
So this way I don't run out of things, nor have to spend an hour figuring out what I need to get , nor oversupply
low harness
You sound like the ideal Grocy user.
rare condor
^^
I am buying Aliexpress keyless entry system for car
It comes with a window keypad to unlock and start car
deciding if this is something I want or not
Like it would be handy sometimes but also like seems too easy for theft...
forest edge
those ketchup bottles look like something from the 80's lol
rare condor
@forest edge you're not from Australia I garner?
forest edge
nope
hushed basalt
I tried grocy
Didn't gel with me
Plus it's php and i don't want to learn php to submit PRs
🤢
tough igloo
Ketchup? Mate, that’s a bottle of tommy sauce right there
hushed basalt
Americans call it ketchup because they like misappropriating words
tough igloo
😂
hushed basalt
Plus it's just red coloured HFCS to them
tough igloo
Love the babyyumyum rusks
Our 1 year old has grown out of them
Still have tons of boxes
hushed basalt
Dairy, wheat, egg allergies
Limits our options
Plus everything gluten/egg/wheat free is so much more expensive haha
Plus we need to spend a lot of time making things from scratch
tough igloo
Yeah our second child has egg/dairy allergies. Vegan pancakes every Saturday has become a staple. I have specialised over the years at making dairy/egg free cakes
He’s almost 7 so I’ve got to plan another cake!
tough igloo
Nice!! 👍🏼
hushed basalt
Cost like $50 in ingredients haha
rare condor
Only two house parties tonight with less than 60 people, people are finally listening to isolation advice at Uni
there was like 15 last week
rare condor
@hushed basalt 20TB is only a few 8k movies uncompressed
clear ferry
20TB, those are rookie numbers
hushed basalt
But why would you ever want those things uncompressed
rare condor
@hushed basalt 8k porn looks better uncompressed
hushed basalt
👍
clear ferry
rare condor
also asking the wrong question, when it comes to technology you should not ask why, but why not?
hushed basalt
Because everything has a cost
And to have something means sacrificing something else
rare condor
I remember learning about opportunity cost in high school, then it became a hit song by G-Easy
hushed basalt
Wouldn't you rather spend your money paying atxbyea to dance for you
rare condor
tbh the only reason I am here is because the nightclubs are closed
clear ferry
I'm quite expensive per hour
tough igloo
That's hilarious. You have joined all the #cooldads
clear ferry
USD 250 per hour plus tax
rare condor
not saying you'll aren't interesting people or anything
clear ferry
During regular hours
rare condor
so has any part of your lives changed because of COVID-19?
tough igloo
well WFH is now the norm. I work for the Aus Gov so we could potentially be deployed to other departments to assist
You know to bludge somewhere else
Write briefs and debate what the word "agile" means
hushed basalt
Don't write, draw
rare condor
lol fair, I just got put into a project with Aus Government, joined govteams today
tough igloo
With all ministers these days drawing would benefit them tbh
hushed basalt
Show some shortening cycles and features/month go up
rare condor
Secret Death Robots Plan 2020 [SEC=CLASSIFIED]
tough igloo
lol nice
hushed basalt
I was going to apply for jobs this month
Looks like I'll be unemployed for a while. Weeeee
rare condor
It's kind of hard to stay motivated when you have been told your going to be fired in 2 monthes
hushed basalt
rare condor
lol
clear ferry
Only change for me is more WFH than usual, no military customers and less airtravel
rare condor
I also had some important dental work due for my wisdom teeth and its been cancelled waited 6 monthes
I reckon I'll be waiting another year at least now
tough igloo
$20 for some pliers from Bunnings
rare condor
lol
clear ferry
Just drink a bottle of whisky first
rare condor
and a hammer + friend to knock you out
tough igloo
Well it will be Mad Max here in Aus soon enough
rare condor
BWS was short on hard spirits, people started to panic buy alcohol too
hushed basalt
Lol
I bought mine a week ago
Gotta get ahead of the curve
$250 on alcohol. Which is about a six pack in Norway
tough igloo
More like a throw down
hushed basalt
I bought 3 bottles of vodka, two bottles of kahlua, and 12 bottles of wine
rare condor
Seriously though right now I would be at hardware lane in Melbourne on a date, then Brown Alley nightclub and then eating a kebab at king street to drown my sorrows. What am I supposed to do on weekends now!?
rare condor
yeah , I tried it with a friend agreed it was awkward as hell and we promised to never talk about it again
hushed basalt
rare condor
right now I am programming a water network in windows xp on 4k screen, its glorious how windows xp has no proper dpi scaling. my face is 10cm from monitor, also NBN decided it was a good time for network maintenance
@hushed basalt I feel so sorry for any parent
hushed basalt
Windows xp...
rare condor
@clear ferry yeah most RTUs and PLCs I program need 3.1
rare condor
It has its perks.... I can't think of any now but you know I am sure they exist
clear ferry
You are mistaking perks for suicidal triggers
unkempt night
Hey!
I'm looking to get a gigabit switch to plug all my hubs and what not into
Do i need to get a managed switch?
clever mortar
No
unkempt night
lmao plz
Is there something thats better
I really want to take control of my network
clever mortar
At that price tag... probably not
But if you want control, you want managed
How many ports, what's your price range?
rare condor
@unkempt night If you just want plug and play with no configuration that is fine
(assuming it has enough ports)
clever mortar
If you want managed, both Mikrotik and UniFi ranges are worth looking at. Zyxel also do some good managed switches at reasonable prices. Netgear's cheap managed switches are ... better avoided IMO
But, for cheap unmanaged, Netgear switches are pretty solid
clear ferry
Linksys has some ok half managed ones
rare condor
@clever mortar I bought cheapest TPLINk and it has a bug where all ports are assigned to VLAN1 regardless of VLAN settings, so VLANs work but an infected device can always bypass it, basically makes vlans useless security wise
clear ferry
Tplink🤢
clever mortar
They've always been bargain basement
rare condor
@clear ferry everything I own you give me a vomit emoji for
clever mortar
Like Realtek for network cards 🤣
clear ferry
That just sounds like hybrid vlan though
rare condor
well it would be nice to not have every device be able to talk on vlan 1
clear ferry
@clever mortar 3c905 4 lyfe
clever mortar
I used to have one of those in a drawer, just for giggles
rare condor
before me time I guess
clever mortar
Two house moves back though I had to clean out my storage of silly things 😦
clear ferry
First thing I do in any network setup is move all ports to a new default vlan 🤢
But these days I just implement 802.1x and dynamic vlan assign
low harness
Don't mind @clear ferrys 🤢 . It's just a tick of his. Like how some people add "you know" to everything.
low harness
Exactly
clever mortar
IMO get the same brand of managed if you actually want control
clear ferry
You don't want to hear my recommendations
clever mortar
Mikrotik, Ubnt, Zyxel - depends on the rest of your choices really 🙂
rare condor
@clear ferry I wasn't alive when 3c905 came out
light trout
Pull the network plug, that will give you control, and it's free 🎉
clear ferry
Lol, I loved 509 and 905
unkempt night
Well heres the thing
clear ferry
Best cards I ever had
unkempt night
I'm also in the market for a complete router/modem setup
Many people recomended Ubiti
rare condor
In fairness most of the PLC code I am working on is older then me, I imagine most of the software devs are retired now or senile
clever mortar
Well, Ubnt all the way, or Mikrotik all the way - take your pick 🙂
Both are cheap and capable
light trout
Just use the one the ISP give it, it will be fine.
Trust me, im on the internet
clever mortar
Or, go OpnSense and be done with it 😉
unkempt night
Is Ubnt ubiquity?
clear ferry
@light trout are you?
rare condor
@unkempt night What do you want to achieve? These brands are well respected because they have lots of features but for a home user they are needlessly complex
unkempt night
- Full house coverage
- Security
- Strong stable network
clever mortar
Needlessly complex... Ubnt... 🤔
rare condor
@clever mortar yes Ubnt and UNMS require me to spend 5 minutes looking for anything
Ui is clean and easy but do anything meaningful and cli all the way
clear ferry
From what I have seen of the interface it looks horrid tbh
light trout
Try Cisco then (their Enterprise stuff)
clear ferry
@light trout that atleast I understand, except full ACI stack
clever mortar
Mikrotik is the option then @rare condor - if you don't want OpnSense 😉
rare condor
@clever mortar I am about to lose my job so I will hold off for now
clear ferry
rare condor
I've already planned for it, going to workout daily and eat better etc. I have roof over my head so I am lucky 🙂
Its an oppotunity
@clear ferry Never plug your cord into a untested network
clear ferry
Workout 
I should try that
clear ferry
I told a female friend I never use public charging points directly, just through a powerbank, she called me paranoid
rare condor
It was 9am then I utubed a bit and now its 8:17Pm
low harness
Oh right.. it's that time of year...
clear ferry
She works in IT even 
rare condor
@clear ferry she is right
low harness
Ooooh! That's why he was so annoyed...
I just had a skype meeting with a britton at 9 CET. I thought it was 8 over there, but you're already on summer time!
🤦
rare condor
I am electrical engineer and I have seen USB ports output 415v and USB with ducky script kiddy stuff on them
I would still plug my phone into anywhere
clear ferry
low harness
clear ferry
@low harness noice
low harness
Works the other way around, though.
clear ferry
I should get one
rare condor
They exist commercially
low harness
I think it was invented when someone made that tiny computer-killing capacitor bank usb thingimabob.
rare condor
The USG was not designed to resist physical overvoltage attacks because they are obvious and easily contained. The information in your computer is more valuable than your computer itself, and the USG defends you against attacks that compromise your information.
low harness
Well, that's what you get for just posting links based on keywords.
clever mortar
I don't remember the last time I needed to charge anything from a random USB port...
Between tiny USB-C PD chargers (that can power the laptop) and USB-C PD battery banks it's not been an issue for a long time
low harness
I usually carry a power pack since before I got a new phone.
clear ferry
I use the hotel usb ports at night usually @clever mortar because I have five things that need charging 
rare condor
My USB PD charger powers my M365 Scooter to work its a bit insane the same charger powers my vehicle laptop, phone and Bluetooth earphones.
clever mortar
https://www.themu.co.uk/products/mu-one-international has become my go-to portable power supply
Know somebody who backed the Kickstarter, and was blown away when I saw it so bought one of my own 😄
clear ferry
Handy
rare condor
Useless
midnight adder
could it be that devices with 65w cant get charged by this 45w power supply?
clever mortar
They'll charge slowly
clear ferry
I have been very happy with my baseUS power bank from AliExpress, fast charges Huawei and pretty close to the 20k mah it advertises
rare condor
My Dell won't charge on 45w charger
clever mortar
Sounds like a crappy Dell 😛
rare condor
XPs 13 9350
clear ferry
@midnight adder my laptop is 120w psu, it's quite slow to charge with anything except the original stuff 
rare condor
@clever mortar that is a useless product though
clear ferry
Dell 🤢
clever mortar
Useless ... sure
rare condor
@vast cloud its racist to me
clever mortar
Useless ... sure
midnight adder
Reminds me - I got an dirt ass old android phone wich I wanted to use as a camera.
It cant charge as fast as it eats up battery
clever mortar
They do do Aus heads too
midnight adder
Reminds me - I got an dirt ass old android phone wich I wanted to use as a camera.
It cant charge as fast as it eats up battery
clever mortar
But they had/have issues with the molds
clever mortar
Dig out the kickstarter entry, browse the comments, they explain the problems there 😉
rare condor
Ok I am going to name one variable and put in my timesheet for 8hrs work
midnight adder
getting 45 w out of this slim formfactor is just insane
rare condor
That variable name took much consideration 😂
midnight adder
macbooks proberbly get toasted
clear ferry
Because I have it 
midnight adder
I dont have one @clear ferry - Just saying that macbooks are crap 🤣
midnight adder
not when you compare the price
rare condor
@midnight adder You can't find a comparable set of wheels under $500
they are the best
midnight adder
https://www.windowscentral.com/xiaomi-mi-notebook-pro-review
Does even look the same
midnight adder
will not blow up when you use an knock off charger 😉
clear ferry
What MacBook for $500 are you looking at? The cheapest pro starts at $1800 here
rare condor
@clear ferry No I was refering to Mac Pro Wheels
midnight adder
googleing CCP
rare condor
They start at $1000 AUD
low harness
If you wondered what a macbok pro would be like if it ran windows 10, why not run windows 10 on a macbook pro?
rare condor
@low harness Steve Jobs Ghost will murder you in your sleep?
midnight adder
lol the list is long
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/CCP
clear ferry
I remember installing windows on a MacBook in 2008 ish for a friend
rare condor
Communist Party of China - Wikipedia
low harness
On the contrary, Apple even had a campaign about how the best computer for windows... vista, perhaps (?)... was a mac.
rare condor
@low harness Mac's are for hipster programmers who prefer working on frontend UI stuff for FOSS projects
clear ferry
Or it had to be earlier, was before I lived in Ireland
low harness
It's still a huge selling point that you can run windows in bootcamp
midnight adder
thx - figured it out already.
But were doomed anyway with all our critical infrastructure is produces by huawai
low harness
Hey! I resent that remark. *sips craft beer and returns to developing Hass frontent on my imac
clear ferry
Huawei / Xiaomi 4 lyfe
rare condor
@low harness you are the most cliché mac user to have existed, please tell me you drink craft beer and that wasn't a joke??? 🤣
low harness
Some things you don’t joke about
rare condor
hahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaahhahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaahhahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaahhahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaahhahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaahhahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaahhahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaah
Ha!
low harness
I'm not a mac evangelist or anything, though. Seriously.
rare condor
In fairness I am drinking a 1ltr bottle of tonic water which I am pooring Gin into
low harness
I like the build quality and the ease of use. But I mainly appreciate the unixity of the OS.
clear ferry
I remember having time to drink beer two months ago
low harness
And the bottle was from last night. I'm actually working right now.
Well... nominally...
clear ferry
And kindergartens are closed because of Corona
rare condor
actually please don't
orchid rose
Thanks mate, now I have the earworm
clear ferry
I'll be happy with her saying papa
rare condor
hmmm....
@clear ferry Out of interest how old are you?
if your inclined to say
otherwise just vomit emoji this message
dull chasm
too old
clear ferry
I started early
dull chasm
hey your ruining my craft beer and apple
clear ferry
@dull chasm how is life in the retirement home
rare condor
anyhow going to do something
dull chasm
women move slower and good ole whiskey is stronger 🤣
clear ferry
dull chasm
@rare condor you can work on my network ...then i got more time for 🍻
unkempt night
Hey
When making a change to the config.yaml
whats the best way to make it take effect
restart
or reload
rare condor
@unkempt night You should really run hass --script check_config then restart
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
How you config check correctly depends on how you installed though 😉
unkempt night
so what button do i press
clever mortar
Depends on what you changed - see the link
clever mortar
🤷
Everything ultimately sits in there
You're best to ask in a channel specific to what you changed if you're unsure
unkempt night
I know i love asking questions here
Do Nest Hubs require some special attention here
They used to show up
But now they're showing as offline
clever mortar
unkempt night
My automations have disappeared from my overview 😮
light trout
Found a solution to backlogs.
Have the user create tickets like this:
echo "Title: CRITICAL BUG!!!" > /dev/null
Enjoy your day 🌞
midnight adder
eeh, escape your characters!
echo "Title: CRITICAL BUG\!\!\!" > /dev/null
Pretty dashboard 😄
midnight adder
USG?
clever mortar
It's the one thing where I really value dashboards - getting an overview of the state of systems
dull chasm
i just added two aps so two for main network and one just for esp/iot stuff and man it made a diff but i stil got some clients trying to associate and i am not sure which ones it is yet .... too damn many clients 87 total with about 55 or so wireless
@midnight adder yes
light trout
Onnly 51 clients 😮
dull chasm
hence the association failues should be about 4 more LOL
midnight adder
my wife gifted me one to my birthday last year, but it got send back after I just bourght a ER4
dull chasm
i dont have the little usg if that is what you was asking
midnight adder
there is a big as well?
dull chasm
yes
hushed basalt
What's the best way to install HA onto my casio calculator
dull chasm
pip
hushed basalt
But all my grapes are pipless
dull chasm
tmi
hushed basalt
Maybe I could get a docker container for the commodore64
dull chasm
well if your grapes dont have any pipes i would think they have no docks
hushed basalt
I'll need to compile docker from source for 8bit architecture
Should be easy
64Kbyte of ram should be enough
@clear ferry would you like to work on a system with 64Kbyte of ram
That's 512000 bits!!!!
clever mortar
What you really just need is a very powerful press to get a good compression for the install
clear ferry
I had a commodore 128 at some point
With a add-on card that I could flip it into c64 mode
last dirge
@wet pilot my house was the office for the neighborhood when it was being built
so my garage is fully insulated and has outlets everywhere to code for interior wiring
and it's even got cable and ethernet runs 🙂
and can lights 🙂
wet pilot
Nice! Mine was a model so we have a lot of odd upgrades
wet pilot
But it was Ryan homes who's motto is basically "no corner left un-cut"
last dirge
and the basement bathroom is finished because that's where the employees used the bathroom
wet pilot
Built in 98, all the windows were shot, we don't have a square corner in the whole place
Gutters are undersized
Every room has three switches in the wall though. So that's nice at least
clear ferry
Insulated garage? 
wet pilot
Makes doing projects in the middle of summer or the middle of winter tolerable
clear ferry
Mine is inside the house, so fairly regulated, but our freestanding garages are seldom insulated
wet pilot
Strange
last dirge
need to get on that triple-glazed EU standard
they're double-hung windows
and they're pretty crappy
wet pilot
"builder grade" aka cheapest minimum legal shit we can find
clear ferry
This style of garage is becoming more common here
I would like one of those with my workshop / music studio on top
clear ferry
Rather have a pit to work under the car tbh
My daughter is trying to fix my mqtt server jail
last dirge
it'd cost more to have the foundation done for a pit than it would to put in a lift
and when you're not using the lift, you still have a floor 😉
clear ferry
Not if I want the loft too, foundation work is pretty cheap here anyway
last plaza
My garage is insulated (doors and walls), but the floor is concrete, and gets extremely cold in the winter.
light trout
Good place to store beer
last plaza
I have a garage heater 240V electric one, but rarely use it.
yup - we leave milk, beer and other stuff in garage itself - nature's cooler
orchid dome
please a quick advice: where should i ask for a problem about a smart plug that goes off by itself after a random period of time? thanks
clear ferry
Mine stays around 20c all winter and 30c in summer
last dirge
#hardware-archived @orchid dome
clear ferry
Perfect for my workshop
wet pilot
i was thinking of doing the full insulation and then put in a mini-split HVAC
we have a guest room right above the garage that gets super cold and super hot in the respective seasons
last plaza
@wet pilot full insulation on attic, walls, and make sure you put a lot of electrical outlets including possibly 220v
wet pilot
yup, that's the plan
last plaza
I have 4 electric outlets every 6ft apart in my 3 car garage, and I am happy I did that
wet pilot
plenty of space in our main electric panel so i can go wild
just need to make sure everything is GFCI
last plaza
I also ran 220v - which came in handy when I got electric car
wet pilot
yeah, i'd probably put one in to future proof
thinking of adding a mini-split to floor the temp in the winters and cap it in the summers
give that room above a chance
last plaza
I now have a separate electric panel that is 60amp
wet pilot
garage is stupid low priority though
last dirge
I have a minisplit I bought 2 years ago that I haven't gotten around to installing
if I had the vacuum and test equipment I'd do it myself
amber bramble
I've been considering putting a minisplit in my garage
but first i need to finish the insulation and drywall project i started 2 years ago 🙃
last dirge
heh
wet pilot
sounds about right
clear ferry
@last plaza only 220 for the electric car? We install 400v 3phase here for those
clever mortar
Well, 220V-ish 😛
last dirge
220*
clear ferry
We distribute 3phase to all houses
clever mortar
While we're nominally 220V here we're mostly 240-250
clear ferry
Then pull 220 out of that
clever mortar
Single phase to houses in the UK
last dirge
after he screwed Tesla
last plaza
@last plaza only 220 for the electric car? We install 400v 3phase here for those
@clear ferry I don't think we can get 440v in the US homes... I may be wrong. 220V with 60 to 80amp is good enough to charge your car in just a few hours.
clear ferry
Yeah, we don't do those amperages in our houses, most I've seen on 220 residential is three phase 32a
But 32a400v3ph is a lot more efficient
last dirge
@last plaza you bought a HPWC?
last plaza
@last dirge yes, I did
last plaza
super fast charging, way better than regular
last dirge
the portable charger throws 29 miles per hour at the car
last plaza
mine goes upto 70 miles per hour
last dirge
when have you actually needed that?
last plaza
even if I forgot to charge the car, I can simply charge for an hour in the morning and I'm good for the day
I had the choice, I did it anyway 😉
last dirge
it's a significant increase in installation costs too
requires thicker wire, bigger circuit breaker
last plaza
installation wasn't much as I have a good contractor works for me, I had planned to have welding machine in the garage before I bought the car, and I have an extra panel with 80amp thick wire already, so easy for me
last dirge
my panel is 80+ feet from where I had my outlet installed
last plaza
mine is like 2 ft 😉
hardly 2ft away from the car too... I rarely extend the entire charger cable..
last dirge
I had a 14-50 installed for the Tesla and a 6-50 installed for the Volt
last plaza
ok...
last dirge
I couldn't justify the cost of the HPWC plus the increased materials costs for that small benefit
if we had another Tesla, maybe
last plaza
that reminds me - I need to hook up RPi to my car. Does it shutdown RPI properly when the car goes to sleep mode?
last dirge
doesn't matter
filesystem is readonly
and it runs fsck on the storage volume when it boots
essentially it's no different than what Tesla does which corrupts my damn USB drive all the time
last plaza
lol
last dirge
but hey, it's a feature that didn't exist when I bought the car
so I can't complain too much
last plaza
yup
the new update will recognize traffic lights and will stop and resume automatically
last dirge
the only thing I don't have is FSD
last plaza
ok...
last dirge
maybe they'll put it on sale during this downturn and I can take advantage of that
I'd have to get the hardware swapped out though
last plaza
model 3s are so popular, you hardly find even the used ones
last dirge
I mean the upgrade being on sale, not the car
last plaza
ah!
last dirge
it went on sale last year and I didn't notice
last plaza
you have EAP but not FSD?
last dirge
right
last plaza
it is about 4K I think
last plaza
ok...
last plaza
I got all the bells and whistles
last dirge
they changed how all of that is packaged after I bought my car
last plaza
yup
when I don't use the car, I lose about 2 to 3 miles a day. I haven;t used it for the past week or so.
possibly because my HA is waking it up every now and then
clear ferry
I'm probably going to do less travel over time now, so an electric car would probably be usable for me, but I would need either the new vw with extended range, but that is a bit cramped, or a Tesla to meet my range needs, but the Tesla is horrible comfort wise
last plaza
I got 320 miles range, I don't think norway is that big 😛
last plaza
had to google, didn't know they are real cars... we don't see them in the USA
at least I didn;t 😉
dull chasm
@clear ferry higher lv is only good use to keep awg to a min when user equiptment can handle higher v
clear ferry
@clever mortar overpriced and jaaaaaaag
last plaza
they both are way expensive than teslas
clear ferry
@last plaza our electric vehicles are 50% subsidized
last plaza
I got $7500 tax break on mine
clear ferry
So a Tesla here is like 190k USD with full spec, but we pay like 80k
last plaza
even that is higher than what we pay
last dirge
he's talking about an S I assume
clear ferry
For a full ludicrous edition s ? @last plaza
clear ferry
Like a full spec VW e-golf is around $30k
A regular petrol one with middle equipment is probably 45k
last dirge
the Jag is fugly
dull chasm
i think i stay us .....something tells me i get screwed in norwary
last dirge
don't want to test unknown potential downfalls and stick with the ones you're guaranteed?
clear ferry
@last dirge we need smart guys here, come on over before it all goes to heck there
last dirge
@last plaza I ordered some of those old man magnifier "glasses"
dull chasm
brian is more the oh shit that shocked
last dirge
working on live 3-phase (while grounded) is a death sentence
last dirge
Apple's apparently building ARM-based laptops now
clear ferry
Wouldn't surprise me, I would like a openrisc laptop
last plaza
@dull chasm new orleans is now the new hot spot for coronavirus cases... stay put!
last dirge
didn't someone in here have a bigass hydroponic setup?
clear ferry
@last plaza more than ny? Saw they had 8000 new cases so far today
Phone lines to emergency services in NYC got more calls than after 9/11 apparently
last plaza
I don't think it is worse than NYC, but they are finding disturbing amount of new confirmed cases, and they are afraid it will spread even further
I was in NYC when 9/11 happened. most of the phone lines didn't even work with overloading of calls
cell phones didn't work either
clear ferry
Like my neighbor said (who travels to the us 10 times per year to buy car parts all around the country) some parts of the south I'm pretty sure they haven't washed their hands since the civil war 
last plaza
I think they should change the sign from Employees must wash hands to EVERYONE must wash hands in the toilets. I always wonder why only employees!
light trout
Liability, the are only responsible for the employees
clear ferry
I am amazed when I travel at airports the shits people press out, then leave without washing their hands
wet pilot
and people wonder why they get sick on flights
clear ferry
It happens way too often
I'm glad we don't have anything like 401ks over here atleast 
I'm expecting the stock market to burn next week
last plaza
someone should write machine learning algorithm that detects those who doesn't wash their hands coming out of toilets and alerts everyone around them
my 401k took a huge dump
clear ferry
Ours is just funds, and like 10% of it is invested by the pension stuff at most
last plaza
will take years to recover!
clear ferry
At most i think I will have lost $500
last plaza
now every country around the US asking for wall 😂
It is just a matter of time before mexico and canada starts to build their own walls
then we are totally locked in
clear ferry
Then 
will say he made it so
wet pilot
"they even paid for it!!1oen!!"
last plaza
lol
clear ferry
static plinth
anyone know why I can hear myself on discord live chat
i have an external mic and headphones
wet pilot
usually an OS setting
something like "talkback"
might be a setting on the mic / headset software
forest edge
good morning vietnam!
forest edge
i miss robin williams
clever mortar
Yup
last plaza
speaking of Robin Williams, looks like someone is playing Jumanji in 2020 and haven't finished yet
last plaza
It is amazing to see that folks still try to spread the blame than work as a team to get to the core of the problem!
when this is all over, blame game begins and back to normal
forest edge
that's how you know we are doomed as a species
if the coronavvirus was aliens we'd all be enslaved right now
wet pilot
yup. Our local state level politician is answering "who's to blame" questions with "We can't say that now and it doesn't matter. Once all this is over we'll figure it out and make changes but we need to do what we can to get through it first."
last plaza
Mardi Gras caused the numbers to go up in New Orleans - Question is why didn't they stop Mardi Gras?
last dirge
good thing I told my money guy to dollar cost average my 401K contribution last time
I think there's still 3 more payments left in the last chunk I gave him
last plaza
why do they feel like going to Mardi Gras when the rest of the world is locked up
last dirge
Mardi Gras was a month and a half ago, wasn't it?
wet pilot
no one has ever accused Louisiana of being intelligent
last plaza
yep - all those people are now tested, and getting worse
wet pilot
FLA is just as dumb
last plaza
yup
wet pilot
NC has been surprisingly "not completely shit"
probably because the state congress is in recess when this started and the gov is handling it all via executive order
last dirge
except for the senator that downplayed it to the public while dumping his stock
wet pilot
oh, the Fed level fucks are retarded
and state congress is too because its gerrymandered to hell
wet pilot
state senate is the worst here
but they're both really bad
they both lost their supermajorities recently though and that's helped some
but i should stop before i get 🔨 for talking politics
last dirge
I'm used to being at home a lot since I'm 100% remote for work
but even I'm getting stir crazy
wet pilot
same, though not really stir crazy yet
daily walks around the neighborhood with the baby help
wife has been coming along lately too
last plaza
daily walks are the only thing that is keep us going. otherwise things can be hard
wet pilot
there's a carve-out in the "Stay at Home" order to allow for that kind of excersise as long as we're keeping the separation
its an actual order here though, they can enforce it with a class 2 misdemeanor
forest edge
what? you don't want to go to the park like the idiots here? https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article241529276.html
wet pilot
parks are stupidly still open
shy comet
@last dirge yea same here....i dont mind being at home but the thought of knowing you have to stay in is what drives me crazy lol
wet pilot
but some parks they'd probably have a hard time keeping people out
clear ferry
We don't have to stay in, but we are introverts
forest edge
oh no atx is chiming in!
clear ferry
So we don't mind
forest edge
yea otherwise the fat would get fatter lol
shy comet
lol
last plaza
our local park is open, I don't mind going there as long as they close the play areas, I'm fine. Taking a walk in nature can help, much like walking in your own neighborhood
wet pilot
lol they already closed the restaurants and bars, that'll probably help
clear ferry
We have so much forest areas in Norway crowding is generally not an issue,except the cabin people who do drunk orgies in the mountains
last plaza
neighbourhood for @clever mortar
wet pilot
drunk orgies in the mountains
🤣
forest edge
just lost my lunch
clear ferry
@wet pilot yeah, I can imagine that being an issue in the us considering how much you guys eat out
wet pilot
meh, most of the places are still open, just have to do carryout / delivery
clear ferry
Norwegians go to restaurants... Probably once a month for some, twice a month for others
wet pilot
i've been ordering a couple of times to our favorite places to try to help them out some
last dirge
my planter came so I can plant my peppers except I don't have enough potting mix to fill it
so I gotta go get that
forest edge
we ordered out almost daily before the outbreak that flipping it to making our own food instead of ordering out doesn't make me feel too bad. after watching that mcdonalds thing where the cooks could be covid infected and flipping burgers it just scared me too much to even do it anyways lol
forest edge
you got freshly slaughtered mountain goats hanging from ropes out back don't you?
clear ferry
Actually
I can buy freshly severed lambs from local butchers, we sometimes do and cure the meats ourselves
And we hang the thighs to dry after salting them
forest edge
you hobbits and your lambs
lol just thought of that movie Funny Farm where chevy chase ate like a ton of lamb balls before knowing they were lamb balls
last plaza
Wish Discord has "thread" feature like Slack
clever mortar
There are days I agree
there are other days I'm just an awkward sod and will disagree because 😛
last plaza
lol
forest edge
don't think discord was originally designed for that. it was initially suppose to replace TeamSpeak and compete with Skype
they were trying to get it to work on gaming consoles at first
forest edge
why in gods earth would you need 12 cameras lol
shy comet
why wouldnt you need 12 cameras?
alwyas a good idea to have cameras looking over cameras
forest edge
cameras watching cameras lol
last dirge
yo dawg, I heard you like coverage
last plaza
@last dirge where do you see the deal? amazion?