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@green inlet it's kind of like the same reason you never drink water from a garden hose cause the particles of stuff in the hose leeches into the water. with hot water tanks you got various rubber seals and all kind of crap that leech into the water
Norwat water is very a-fjord-able
hmm kill you or make you impotent.. i choose death alex for $500
The complete path our water takes is 14feet up a pipe, about 20 feet horizontal into our pump, then about 15 feet of flex piping to our spigots...
Some gets diverted into a pressure tank, and some into the hot water tank...
very curious what that taste like
Fresh
yea well what may be fresh to you might make some of us gag lol
Like Norwegian water I would recon
Nice and cold, straight from the sink. No need to have ice or refridgerate it just to get a cold drink
@clear ferry isn't Norwegian water just grey water from Sweden? lol
wondering at what point i should be fetching the mail out of the mailbox with salad tongs lol
Yesterday, but don't forget to sterilise the tongs afterwards.
And soak the mail in something suitable to kill off any latent virus
Or just let it sit in your mailbox until tomorrow...
It doesn't last on surfaces very long
And set fire to it?
well I could use one of those glass jars you see at the haircutting places that sterilize the combs and lysol the mail lol
Might make it a little hard to read...
Does anyone actually get any important mail anymore. I vote we stop recycling and just offset it with policies against junk mail.
well tax crap comes by mail
I got all mine online
some orders get shoved in the mailbox
Well thatโs different ๐. You requested it.
I could prob fill half my recycle bin with junk mail
We burn most of our paper trash up here...
oh damn alaskans contributing to global warming
Lmao.....I knew that was coming
I have to use more sunscreen cause of the damn alskianians
lol
@green inlet I only get letters from American companies, anything else I get digital, and packages from China
I have all my Norwegian mail diverted at the post office

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Merrill lynch and similar to be specific
All bills come automatically into my bank, and any receipts for anything comes to Digipost for the last 5 years
I am only on day 3 of WFH and I am a bit slap happy. Just ignore me ๐
I just finished building some hard drive caddyโs for my raspi server rack. Need to take them down for a couple hours so I can finish the install
lol
hello anybody running ha on docker container ?
tons
He's also asked (correctly) over in #672217570283094017
I am
If you want to help him, see his posts in #672217570283094017
Help me, help you
wow tempting
been cautious about take out stuff though...still room for contamination
my wife did find some official guidelines around it though
I know it's a risk but......๐
yea i mean as long as we are smart about handling the food its ok
literally using lysol wipes on amazon packages here
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Same here. Stopped all amazon orders
oh you stopped ordering? we use amazon for pet food and baby stuff so were always ordering lol
Yep stopped will do for 2 more weeks.
at least man
I ordered some more D1 Minis and a few sonoffs yesterday...
lausd pushed back to May 1...surprised they didnt cancel teh school year yet
I have all my orders from china just sitting at the shop. They are back to 70% production in Shenzhen
Don't want to open the boxes yet. Lol
I feel bad for the DHL guy. He is pretty worried.
Just let them sit for a day. It really doesn't last on surfaces for very long.
2 to 3 days. We get our shipments here in 2 days.
I am going to let it sit there for 9 to 10 days. Don't want to put guys at work at risk.
yea you gotta think about the different ways things can get contaminated
all the way down to the last person touching it thats not you
The study suggests that people may acquire the coronavirus through the air and after touching contaminated objects. Scientists discovered the virus is detectable for up to three hours in aerosols, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel.
You're pretty safe after 4-5 days
Yep, I'm just going to leave it alone for a few days before opening...
were never gonna look at amazon packages the same guys
and wear gloves when I go pick it up
I keep a box of nitrile gloves for doing maintenance on my vehicles so I still have a decent supply.
@river rune yea we just bought a box from costco ourselves
Amazon actually I am not worried about the product itself. Just handling here. But work stuff I am worried about actual product. They don't usually wear gloves in china working with CNC carbon fiber. ๐
yea dude make sure to wear a face mask when you open it @tidal bronze
I gave my brother my spare monitor. Currently have a Debian box with CLI and borked SSD plugged into a 40" TV. The characters are so big it's almost headache inducing to read!
I don't handle direct most of the time. But yes better to be safe. @shy comet
N95 mask production ๐
China is cranking it up like crazy.
People give TPS flak for not dealing in well in crisis like this
But I think true TPS deals much better with this than traditional production methods
Hmm, the dodgy SSD is a HooDisk which I hadn't heard of before, but they seem to be somewhat known.
Possibly just unluck with that one.
I am surprised Bill Gates isnโt ready with N95 masks for the world yet. He kept on talking about pandemic for number of years now.
I think Bill Gates has done a lot
But a lot of things are fundamentally in the domain of governments not foundations or corporations
I now feel how the world used to be before amazon prime.
I canโt get anything before end of April now on Amazon.
Dear God, Can you please uninstall 2020 and reinstall? It has virus! ๐ฆ
UK going into shutdown mode too!
NZ is going shutdown tomorrow. 4 weeks self-isolation apparently.
Classic ScoMo
This will be worse than WW2.
Except instead of 18 year old men dying it will be 80 year olds
Pretty morbid, but guess that will mean less chance of the right-wing winning again. Clear out some of the old bigots.
I'm not sure how much unbiased data has come in about how it affects younger people though
China can't be trusted on any level for honesty
@last plaza going to bring down some masks this week.
I lived through 3 weeks of glandular fever at 35 years old - I feel like it isn't likely to be any worse than that.
@tidal bronze from where?
Not the best time to go to China ๐
Not going there, can't come back.
You should have gotten some from Singapore. It wasnโt that bad at the time
Also protip. Buy a car battery charger now, since we're all looking at periods of lockdown
I recommend ctek
You need to quarantine masks once you get them
Everybody and there mother is making masks there. Average order is 3 to 5 million pieces my buddies were saying.
@hushed basalt why car battery?
All going to US
Wow!!!
Because we might be stuck in our homes for 4 weeks
So no driving
Battery go kaplut
My old work had a dozen of these in heavy use
I leave it outside for the winter.
4s lipo ๐
I have a battery charger - got one from Costco for my lawn tractor
I'd recommend not cheaping out too much, dc supplies and batteries are very complex things
I always use a 4s lipo. Got plenty lying around.
4s lipo to do what?
Jump your car?
What if your car is a battery car? ๐คฃ
You need some more smarts than that
I have a huge Lipo I used for my remote start for airplanes. Need to look into that
And prevention is better than a cure
@green inlet easiest and smallest, works like a charm
These things are like half the cost of a standard car battery and will last 10-20 years
No small one would do anything over 5000mah
But I already have a lipo
Yup. Costco here Carrieโs good brands.
All new lipo chargers come with regenerative discharge. You can even do a regular charge using a lipo. ๐
Discharge the lipo into a 12v sealed
I have touched my RC stuff in years ๐
I also have imax B6
B6 does not come with that. ๐
although I rarely use it. I bought it to charge my 18650 home made battery pack.
You have a big lipo to skalava
Amazon got tons of lipo jump starters with usb and all the bells and whistles
No more 2day Amazon prime anymore.
I know. Waiting for some opto isolators 2 weeks out.
Crazy how much you will miss when you need something.
Funny Google coral is only a week out.
Off to watch lion king on Netflix
Where are you going to use this Opto isolators?
@green inlet which version? There are like 10 versions of the same movie.
Sorry. Tiger king lmao.
Working on some logic level converters and need to isolate trigger to detection.
Saw the preview of it. Let us know how it is, so that we donโt have to waste our valuable time @green inlet ๐คฃ
@last plaza are you still on tensor ? Going to coral and rtsp
I am.
People say it is crazy. Only on episode 2. Slow start.
@tidal bronze let me know how it goes.
Honestly nothing great on netflix anymore. They are punching out so much content and mostly crap.
Will do.
I thought you tested deepstack
I am watching these crazy weird adult cartoons these days. Hope nothing is wrong with me. Like brickleberry and paradise pd ๐ค
I tested machinebox, tensorflow only. Deepracer I havenโt completed yet.
I started paradise pd but little off for me. Must try harder.
lol.
Homeland is off the hook this season.
Homeland was great first few seasons. After that, I lost track.
Was slow last few seasons. This one mind blowing.
yea after season 3-4 of homeland i was done
Check out this season.
im too far behind lol
I watched until Carrie acts mental and all. That was the only season I binge watched all night - non stop for 16 hours.
even walking dead i stopped before teh last season
I could never watch WD. May be 1 season and after that i was out.
Iโm still super pissed on the GoT last season.
man i wish they brought back rick and morty to finish up season 4
I started to watch Rick and Morty with my kids, I could tell they werenโt into it.
New Amsterdam started as well. I really like neighborhood too
Plex
What up guys???
There are only 4 episodes in Rick and Morty season 4.
Taking advantage of the staying at home to work on my HA...
Good for you!
I have been updating but not innovating or improving
@last plaza do you have plex ?
I did, but removed it from my NAS.
Was doing too much transcoding and using up cpu like crazy
Run in the server
I moved all the media to an external drive and connected directly to tv.
Hmm.. keep the media elsewhere, but run plex on server?
My latest quest is that I want to integrate my cctv to HA and get some object detection. I think I may have to move way from my current NVR solution which is currently Surveillance station on Synology.
@last plaza yep.
Ok. Never thought that way.
@slim laurel I use SS with tensor
Easy peasy.
Yep
@tidal bronze nice!!!!
@last plaza you should do the plex thing immediately lol
I have struggled with using SS I thought I would have to move to shinobi or motioneye
Yup. On it.
@tidal bronze I love SS for everything else but I did not how to offload the person detection etc...
Thatโs where you use ha.
You got a dedicated linux host to run plex?
@tidal bronze not sure where to begin add the cameras or the synology integration
SS integration and that's it. Whitelist the cameras you want.
@slim laurel https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/camera/
@last plaza I run plex on on syno and another syno for media.
@tidal bronze where do you do the tensor
I have a dell server acting as a syno
works great
runs my HA in a VM and all my dockers
Once you do the integration rest is simple.
@tidal bronze I donโt want to run plex on my NAS. Where else I can run?
and my plex
@last plaza what model do you have?
Are you direct playing or transcoding
You would need a mini cpu with a quicksync capable cpu
@last plaza run on the Dell. But you have do some research on getting ESXI to passrhru HW resources for HW transcoding
Copy. Got plenty of time to research that.
He is running esxi
So do I ๐
Even then it's not clear cut as running bare metal
yea it depends on the passthrough support
unraid has really good hardware passthrough
You may want to investigate that
FreeNas not so much
but baremetal is pretty rock solid
@tidal bronze I have a dell t30
@tidal bronze let me know how the coral works out.
ohhh I want to get one of those
coral cards
or usb compute thingies
@tidal bronze so can you tell me a little more about your setup
I have my SS recording all the time. I had to turn off notifications because they are all junk a tree moving a shadow on the floor etc...
It is all documented. If you follow the link I shared above, it is easy.
Or you can get support in #cameras-archived @slim laurel
ahh yes I hadnt seen any of the tensor stuff in there
but yes I will check those out
So are you having issues with CPU and transcoding
No, Iโm good.
@last plaza I will let you know about coral and planning to test deepstack as well.
Sweet!
Iโm going to order one. Itโll probably take a month or two before it comes anyway.
It's on Amazon
Pretty interesting when wife sends a text saying "walked into the closet light didn't turn on instantly, is everything ok?"
lmao
Can't even restart HA during business hours.
Yup. Nothing gets delivered until April 21.
I got lucky then. Mine coming on Saturday
Great. I think for me, it comes from CA. You are local... it only makes sense.
Almost any electronic item I pick, the earliest delivery date shows April 21. Kids ordered some books, they are coming this Thursday
PM me your plex gmail.
Ok...
Guys is there a tutorial about the tensor part that you recommend?
I am reading the docs and I am confused
lol
At first my wife thought that the automation was the peak of laziness as she called it now she freaks out if she cant run the goodnight routine
@tidal bronze last question do you get motion notifications in HA or in SS?
Don't do motion notifications.
person, car, truck and dog. Object size based line crossing and intrusion detection direct from HIK cameras
Nice!!! I would love to do that but what do you once it has been detected? It doesnt notify you or you use it to review past footage? For me the value would be in getting notified if a human or dog or car etc...in my property
That's what I have for notifications. Only notify for person / car etc. Regular motion detection is only used for SS recording for anything else pixel based motion detection is pointless
I agree pixel based is pointless. I would get hundreds of notifications a day and it was a tree swaying
The only time I review footage is when I misplace something ๐
lol
So you have your SS recording all the time I guess then you bring in the cameras into HA and integrate with tensor
the notifications are from HA?
@tidal bronze Pardon my ignorance man
SS recording on motion.
SS integrated to HA
Tensor flow based screenshot notifications for people and dogs
Door Sensor based screenshots for garage doors, side gates, front door.
Hmm so its the ss integration and not the camera integration
Correct
Add to HA and take it for a spin. You ain't going to break anything.
Best way is to test it out.
It seems to be deprecated
My use case is pretty different, I mainly track dogs with the cameras, not worried about people or intrusion etc.
same base setup though
But its amazing to know your dogs got out...I wish I had a few years ago when one of mine got out and got hit by a car...
So sorry to hear that. For me it's mainly because of one of my neighbors, nicest guy but shit scared of large dogs. He calls me from his car all locked up saying my dog is in his yard. ๐ Don't want to cause a heart attack.
wow...everyone has their fears you have to respect that. My female German Shepherd got way and a car hit her
it sucked
I cried like a little bitch
I would too. Beautiful dog.
And in 2018 I had to put down my Male
My older one is recovering from a major surgery almost lost my mind. Finally he is back to normal.
Not going to lie to you havent been the same
I can't even imagine what I would do when that day comes.
Here's my giant.
lol is it a schnauzer?
Yep Giant
wow I have a little one
Just got back after removing the staples today.
wow...
Its funny because we stress over them like if they were kids
people who dont have dogs dont get it
Don't have kids so they are my kids ๐
Furrbabies
Yep.
I get it brother! Trust me. My little one is like 13
she is getting old and loosing her fire
We fear the day when she crosses over the rainbow bridge
I hear you.
I am not ready for getting another big dog
my wife tells me about it all the time but I am not there yet. I did a lot of training with the male and he was like super bonded to me
After the scare few weeks ago I am also thinking hard now.
100%
I need to do a bit more work on getting SS the way I want it. Need to do some object recognition and whatnot, motion isn't reliable with a dog.
Is yours a Schnauzer @tidal bronze? I have a mini ๐
Yes a giant.
Mogwai helping me "work from home"
when she was about 1.5 years old We think they bread her
nice!
I call Schnauzers "aggressively friendly". They all seem to need to meet any dog that they pass.
Yep. My St. Bernard is even worse. Too friendly. Creates so many issues with small dogs and their owners.
Yeah, Mogwai only just started calming down/maturing in the last 6 months. He's 3 now.
sounds about right
Best friends forever ๐
They are a ball of energy. She would chase flying birds....lol
and jump until she hit the fence
@tidal bronze Hey man I gotta run promised my son I would watch a movie with him. He is on spring break so I got no excuses....lol Thanks for the heads up on the tensor. I will have to do some massive reading because it all looks like chinese to me....lol
have fun
You are welcome. Pretty easy once you get started. I looked at the integration after years lol. Always worked for me.
The tensor stuff has me nervouse
Piece of cake.
ok guys have a great night!
I don't think this is going to go for months. Best is to be positive. ๐

Leaks from cdc say 18m
That is what will probably be necessary with a slow response
Not even all states are doing curfews yet 
Maybe this will finally be the wake-up call to get public healthcare back on the agenda.
Whispers say that my county is going in full lockdown tomorrow
NZ is full 4-week lockdown tomorrow. Apparently the stores are pandemonium today.
Yup
Most annoying thing for norwegians right now is the closed schools and kindergartens, but schools do remote classes, kindergartens on the other hand, me and the wife swaps taking care of and working 
Expect it to be like this for atleast two more weeks
@wet pilot already plans to lift stay-at-home ๐
Trump wants to reopen the country by end of this week
Yep
only hotspots will remained stay at home while everywhere else will go back as normal
and they will determine if new places need to take action if people start dying
I don't even
I think that's better. Corona is going to look like peanuts if the economy goes to shit
Got to head out to Tennessee soon and don' want to drive ๐
But I wanted to see what happens to capitalism after two weeks of lockdown 
Still be better than anything else.
Shots fired
Pretty sure you are sowing the seeds of the evil capitalism when you rant about HPE all day ๐ @clear ferry and..... you're Welcome!
ah, norwegian taxes
recieved my tax papers today at 10:15
filled the changes I wanted now at 10:50, and sent the papers in
Got mine weeks ago. Done with in two minutes, because I had to upgrade my e-ID first.
And by "papers" I mean email.
I have to change some driving things, because we get tax back for any kilometers we drive at work
I live too close to work for that.
last year I didn't have too much, so I only got NOK13k back, usually I get 30k back
I get all kilometers at work, except to the office
We can get for the kms to the office too, if it's above a certain distance and you can prove that mass transit is not reasonable.
yeah, if it is over 140km round trip I think here
but I get any kilometers at work from my employer, then I write them off at the end of the year
Here you get ~0.29 USD/km if you have more than 12 km to work
We get paid 0.35 USD per kilometre driven
This is just between home and the office. Everything from home to somewhere else, and back of course, is 0.52 USD/km
I usually get 200-300 USD per month in tax free compensation. Not a lot, but decent,
We used to have two tariff, one up to 12000km and one above, now it's the same for all kilometres
I get $7000 per year in kilometres usually
Plus all road taxes covered by employer
Not bad.
Pretty standard over here for most
I just get it up front and have to write off the km I actually drive, most get it month by month
But same values
I'm currently "rented out" as a external consultant, and with these corona lockdowns, I'm not doing so much driving ๐
Same here, but still get most of my work done from home, just no military stuff
Wouldn't help much when I can't control it 
I don't have access to robots, but can I interest in you some megawatts?
Part of the equation ๐
there you go
Now calculate the power, given that may assume all three phases are equal and cos(phi)=1
Light bulb goes kaboom
We have an incident, which drew just over 24.000 Amps for a few cycles.. made the light blink in half the country ๐
And yes, that did go "boom"
Yeah, I worked with somebody who'd been in the power generation industry, and they had some scary tales of what happens if you don't treat things with respect
In this case we had over 5 GW for a few cycles
A friend of my fathers got really badly burnt when someone took a shortcut in a power plant and he got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Nowdays he does safety training and inspection, and has some really nasty scars from burns which add a lot of emphasis to the training
Yea, I've seen one who had gotten hit by a 10 kV arc.. not good
I believe this happened in Tarbert in the south of Ireland, which has multiple oil turbines. Not sure what exactly he got hit with, but it was enough to give him burns over 40% of his body.
Oof
I was standing in one of Norway's oldest hydro power plants
That shit is fun to watch go
Think the turbines were from the 60s
Hydro is a good way of reminding you that nature is brutal
Yeah, standing on the top of it looking down was like 40m down to the water itself
And it still shook me
There's a real cool "power station" near where I live called Turlough Hil. It's a "Pumped Storage" station which pumps water to an upper lake by night, and then lets it run down through turbines by day.
Every few years it's shut down for maintainence, and near the end of the maintainence they do tours.
It's really really really damn cool walking down where normally there's enough flowing water to generate over 200MW ๐
The Eirgrid Dashboard doesn't break down what renewables are responsible for our power, but I'm betting most of it is wind power: http://smartgriddashboard.eirgrid.com/#all
The Smart Grid Dashboard is an EirGrid Group web-based application that enables users to view and compare some of the key all island power system statistics and graphs in one location.
Yup, mostly wind!
@tawny pebble

@clear ferry LOL - i was gonna ask something that i found a click away, now i'm just struggling to create a Pull request. It's alright 

@clear ferry Done (: if all goes fine we'll see a new theme, based on a theme i found a year ago (bug-fixed) and magically disappeared
Restore the backup ;)
hahaha - sure - he made a backup before blindly poking around in stuff ๐คฃ
Backups should run atleast once a day, or else you can just close down shop now 
If you're not automatically taking regular backups you're doing IT wrong

Also, you should be checking the logs (automatically) and notifying on failure. Oh, and regularly testing random restores so you know you can...
I got rather the attidude that you should be ready to burn almost everything down and still be able to recover. But well - the guy is just an researcher
If you didn't back it up you didn't care about it ๐คท
ehh - its a rather nice challange
but you get to a point where you are stuck and need some new input
I mean the data is there - He just run fsck over it, cleard the superblock, reallocated the group discriptors and send me a screenshot doing it.
We just extended the Norwegian lockdown for three more weeks 
@clever mortar have you tested wireguard with site to site?
I haven't, I'm just using it for mobile clients
Same here, as I only have one site ATM, but should be no different
Only 2 weeks lockdown here in Austria, but the prime minister already said something about that we shouldn't consider big changes until June.
Three weeks here. You know it's bad when McDonalds closes ๐คฃ
Fnap
I don't mind working from home at all, but I have to watch the baby 50% of the time 
ooooh
I'm glad ours is old enough we don't have to do that. School from home is proving interesting though - but at least MS Teams isn't melting today ๐
Also using gotomeeting? It's coming up hard around here
@green inlet I also started to watch tiger king last night! Completed about 4 episodes.
upgrading my rpi ๐คข from stretch to buster to make it my zigbee2mqtt docker host in the middle of the house instead of the garage 
@hearty depot they use some software called blackboard and a few others, including teams
they use that too
Uuh - will look into it
Teams/goto is the actual Austria combo
I've only ever seen indian companies use gotomeeting ๐ค
I should use some other storage on my pi, currently using a USB stick, but I prefer that over a SD card anyday
PXE-booting might be a good option, no use with zigbee2mqtt without power \ the rest of the servers up anyway ๐คฃ
Good morning Vietnam!
Getting there @forest edge
Before the weekend Trump was all like, stay at home, go nowhere, do nothing!, after the weekend Trump was like, Go back to work! and now all these companies had already planned to be closed through to the end of april lol
Trump wants to keep "hot spots" closed down while allowing area with little or no cases to reopen lol
and I guess close them down when we start dying lol
all I can think of when someone tells a story like that is Greg Davis' standup show where he talks about the little girl he had a student when he was at teacher
when does norway plan to go back to work atx?
I still got RPis running Xenia. I need to upgrade all of them to buster.
you mean jessie?
yea all my older pi's still run jessie
hey, customer is always right!
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yea that would make you sick, cause then you'd have nothing to do and fix lol
you have obviously never heard of software never being fixed in older versions ๐
there is tons of that in esxi
"no fix avaliable for 6.7, will be fixed in 7.0u1"
jessie lts is going out of support now too, I thought it was longer ๐ค
what did i just say? "if it works don't touch it" lol
mean if it's not broken don't fix it lol
supportability is a lot more interesting for people who do meaningful stuff ๐
please most additions and features don't evven get used
If it works don't touch it has kept me in a job for years, because it has problems you're ignoring
thats a salesman pitch lol
Sure...
tell yourself that ๐
if it's not broken there is obviously no problems
There is no obvious problem
there are a multiude of problems
Then along comes, say, a remote wormable exploit
And boom, your network is encrypted
on a rpi on a closed network? that's some worm lol
SMB1 ain't broken, don't fix it ๐ค
have you heard of irans nuclear generators @forest edge ?
The book makes for a good read actually
your just trying to justify your need for constantly needing to upgrade because every new thing is a fix yet really only adds in new problems lol
tell yourself that ๐
I know someone who'll never have a job in enterprise atleast, unless as a customer ๐คฃ
I'm unlikely to be out of a job this side of the heat death of the universe, particularly if people don't upgrade ๐
Is there a good desoldering tool available? I spent good 2 hours earlier to remove the pins that are soldered to the esp8266. It was a PITA.
copper wix or one of those suck up tools
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the suck up tool can be alittle tricky sometimes unless it's a decent one
**floop
Not worth spending $6000 on a $3 esp ๐
How about $5000.00?
$5999.99
Plus $4,000.01 PnP
and tax
don't forget tax
I still don't get used to that when going to the us
having to add tax
State plus national
It's like, WTF, why not just include it in the price, you know what it is...
First time I went that just hurt my head
When we sold our first house.....strategy was list for whatever 99.....in their heads, people think it is cheaper. We when sold our last house, realtor was like, โgot to be in the 00โ. These days, if you list for 160 instead of 159, you hit search engines from 150-160 and 160-170. When you lost for 159, you only hit 150-160
Tax included ๐คฃ
yeah, that is a good point
with the current lockdown and the kids having to do their schoolwork from home, I'm looking for a good way to disable the kids phones/computers/ps4 untill they've achieved x amount of homework.. anyone got some advice on good ways to achieve this ?
Depends on your router, mostly
after some googling I came across arpspoof but it seems to generate alot of traffic on the network..
You want to check for any sign of parental controls
using adguard home for dhcp/static ip routing
My Zyxel modem also allows me to block individual hosts, or groups of hosts
hmm, we've got 3 different brands or routers scattered throughout the house so I'm not sure how to achieve it in any of their settings
I know that far from ideal but it is what it is :p
You've got 3 Internet connections?
no, 1 inet connection and then 4 routers (1 asus, 2 linksys and one tplink) working as access points
Well, they should be just access points, not routers ๐
In which case, you only have one device to worry about
isnt the client blocking stuff you mention part of the dhcp functionality of the router ?
I've got two. DSL and a 4G backup.
once I set them up as access points they pretty much only allow me to set ssid and pwd and some basic wifi options
4G also gives nice out of band if the DSL goes bang
Yeah, I want to sort that at some point. Now is not a good time to go messing with my Internet though ๐
Not sure what you mean.. I pretty much have Inet modem > switch > 4 acces points
and on the network is my server with adguard hone that handles the ip assigning
so not sure where I could be setting this up ๐ค
moved my zigbee2mqtt from my primary docker enviroment to a rpi3b+ with docker in less than 4 minutes
@vestal reef Unless you did something wrong, those four access points are just that, access points - ignore them
Check your router for any access control options
yeah, as long as you have disabled the dhcp-server in them or set them in bridge mode or similar and plugged the lan cable into one of the lan ports they should be non blocking access points
doesn't have any (settings are completely closed off by ISP too)
was also hoping it could be automated from HA / Nodered
If you had something that could do that, and it had an open API...
By using arpspoof it could work I think but since that seems to cause large amounts of traffic I was hoping on a more elegant solution ๐
@vestal reef , with DD-WRT you can create rules. I used to shut all the kids internet down an a specific time at night and turn it back on in the am
@green inlet sadly I can't run dd-wrt ..
Time to plan for a decent router ๐
Not even a decent one. Just one that can run dd-wrt. Cheap Ac68u off of flea bay
Or you could always go the old fashion route of,โno internet till your school work is finishedโ
yeah, tried that :p
Yea, me too. Then I got dd-wrt๐คฃ
kids ๐
better to remove the candy then constantly have to tell them not to take the candy >> ๐
We all pick our battles. Believe me, I get it
Ill give arpspoof a go .. not getting an extra router just so I can block their devices .. ๐
I'm just taking the trust but verify approach - and being grumpy if they look like they're fibbing ๐
hmm wyze band just announced, mi band has a new competitor priced appropriately now
wyze ๐คข
And... built in to the band. That's not going to fail...
that is a shitty design choice
Yeah, before I had the FitBit I had no longer existing brand and theirs was an all in one, and the strap snapped after 9 months
I'm happy with my Fitbit, but at some point I'll be back in the market for a new one...
yea i got a mi band now
the smart home stuff is nifty though
would be nice if we can link that to HA but i doubt it
that price is tempting though
then meh
even for handsfree it just wasn't usable
when I bring 2x wireless headsets with me anywhere anyway
I've got Google Assistant on my watch, never used it
Mostly I wear the Pebble anyway ๐
yea i just wear mi band 3
im spoiled by nearly 3 weeks of battery of life
a color screen would be nice though
wonder waht the comparison is from mi band 4 to the wyze band
For 25.00,maybe it will desolder Skalavala esp?
lol
only work with alexa ๐คข
i hate that
admittedly i wouldnt use voice on a watch
my phone and/or google homes will hear me anyways lol
voice wont work if not connected to the phone
They should sell esp8266 and everything else with and without pins.
564 corona virus cases in just Ohio. ๐ฑ
I don't get how it can be 25 bucks yet still do the other crap like the fitbits
Yup. I got lost in gear best looking for mi bands. There are SO many varieties. I gave up.
Good with Apple Watch. Spent $750 on it. Might as well get my monies worth
lol
idk if i can use a watch that requires to be charged on a near daily basis anymore
mi band spoiled me
2nd generation Apple Watch. Total waste of money.
Iโm not an Apple fanboy. It was a gift from wife and kids. Otherwise I wouldnโt spend any money on it.
I have to charge every day.
I see wyze got smart and didn't include an interface port on the band cause you know at 25 bucks someone would have hacked that sucker lol
Yup
The daily charge is part of the reason why I don't use my WearOS watch much
Itโs not bad if you have a routine. I charge my phone daily too
i need a feature comparison of wyze band vs mi band 4 ๐
How much is mi band 4?
$31 on gearbest. Not bad at all.
should be lower by this point honestly
Do you guys sleep with the band on? I canโt sleep with my Apple Watch. I have Melanese band and it would be very uncomfortable to sleep with it.
apple watch dosen't do sleep tracking does it?
i sleep with mi band
May be newer models. I have 2nd gen and doesnโt do that for sure.
i sleep with mi band
@shy comet ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
yea that be the only reason to wear these bands while sleeping is cause of the sleep tracking
I sleep with my Fitbit on
yea i use sleep as android to track our sleep here
Sleep tracking is quite helpful
helps to automate armed night and night mode
Armed night mode?
auto turrets engaged
I need to get up to speed on the bands. Clearly I am out of touch.
@last plaza yup, I use Tasker from my phone to trigger off all the events
its pretty nifty
you can tell when you hit snooze vs dismiss on teh alarm
Ah! Tasker doesnโt work with Apple ๐ฐ
lol - seriously thinking about it. But not a big fan of android.
I've been using both for long enough to know that "little" things like Tasker are a deal breaker
Makes sense.
Then again, I've been using stock Android (or as near as I can get) all the time - and it works for me
yea i can never use apple due ot lack of tasker
Some folks love specific brand's skins
Yes, you will always find folks who want 1000 themes and bands ๐
Iโm good with default.
wow they released a scale too lol
wyze?
yea
lol
lol heart rate through your feet
wow unlike the fitbit scale this one connects to your phone and sends the data
fitbit will just send over wifi
I don't like how they force you to use thier app
Connect to your WiFi and give that as a gift to your neighbor lady ๐
That way you can track how much they are consuming ๐คฃ
the real question, how long until they hack this stuff to work iwth HA
wyze sense support showed up fairly quickly
it connects via bluetooth lol
It is just a matter of time. If one can be integrated, chances are others can be done easily too.
$20 bucks is a good deal since those that do that kind of stuff are usually closer to 50 bucks and abovve
was looking at one the other day at CVS
Yes. Chinese equivalent of us$50 is $10
lol
lmao
oh the scale will soon be compatible with fitbit
i think ti all works with google fit
yea
theres a custom integration for that so we can pull that data into HA
still need to one day pick up the WS2812b led strip and power supply ot play with WLED
@last plaza did you end up going with a WS2812b and a power supply too? trying to figure out what items i need to pick up lol
if you ever have trouble sleeping watching this is better than counting sheep https://youtu.be/R_Tq6t3VMV4
man i got 413 simpson episodes to go in my rewatch of the show LOL
just started season 9
lol longest running show evver
Phew! found my backup phone
I still have my one of these in a drawer
8110?
Yep.
You could push the button and the slider would pop open
Had that as well. Good ol days.
Tinkerer betrayed Neo
Well, duh, my reality, not his
I'm looking for a tutorial to setup my own domain with home assistant and lets encrypt ( currently i am using duckDNS addon and want to acquire my own domain ).
If you're using Hass.io/Home Assistant see #330944238910963714
Otherwise just follow the standard process but use your DNS provider
The official docs have a few guides
Not a good time to be in Italy
I was planning to invite family to Italy this year to celebrate my father's 70th
I'll have to find something else

Well, depends on the state of the world after this calms down
Might actually be a good time to go ๐คท
Was looking at a vineyard with 24 beds for $2000 for a week including clean out
Nice company prices
We had some apartments in Croatia for $20 per night that could sleep 4 people last fall
@clear ferry Zoom Happy Hours seem all the rage at the moment
Woot?
Zoom, yeah... ๐ฑ
That'll be the one that tracks all your activities while running
LA numbers are starting to rise it seems
4 new deaths to bring total to 11....one of which is under 18
@shy comet sorry - was on call with my team. I do not have ws2812b. I have the correct psu, but ran into issues with my ws2811 strip. I havenโt fixed it yet.
ah ok, yea im returning the ws2811
I havenโt had much luck with the individually addressable led strip yet.
Wled seem to be fairly easy to flash.
I just installed the wled to my sauna the other day and yeah it was pretty simple and integrated pretty well with HA. It left me with the white temperature slider for some reason though
The us numbers are going to blow up unless the whole country goes on lockdown
Saw Mississippi refused to follow lockdown
Too many folks listen to the it's all fake news
Depends on the definition of lockdown as well, but in Europe most nations had to do it eventually
China virus ๐ฉ
Sweden being Sweden still hasn't locked down but everyone around them has so...
They are planning the same as UK wanted to do
Ignore it?
I think we're still aiming for that one
Well, to be fair, we didn't get quite that far before the PM had to change course because everybody yelled at him
@orchid rose did you go with WS2812b for WLED?
oh ok, does that require a separate power supply?
I powered from a 5V usb
was trying to find a strip i can power from esp8266 but doesnt seem like its possible
depends on what you mean by "from esp8266". If you power the esp from a 5V source and connect the strip to the right pin it should be fine
But there was a difference how this worked on nodemcu boards it turned out. I think it was atx who pointed me to a thread that mentioned which pin on my board gave the 5V output
well the esp8266 would be plugged in usb so itll get 5v

Which esp board do you have? I think it was the lolin boards that were slightly different from the rest and the Vin pin won't give you the 5V
The USB input will be connected to one pin on the board directly afaik. Usually Vin, but sometimes some other pin. Connect to the right pin and you won't have any issues
ooh ok so not directly to the onboard microusb port like i was trying lol
you can but it's just easier to use one of the output pins for that ๐
yea i was hoping to keep thigns like plug n play ๐ when it comes to these things im usually lost without a guide lol
oh I'm far from an expert as well but just knowing the basics is usually enough to understand what should go where. Like that kids' game where you put pieces through holes
@shy comet the esp8266 vcc is only 3.3v and not 5v. I think.
esp itself will use 3.3V but there's an output pin that connects directly to the input voltage
ok so more than likely i need something like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZRIWZD/?coliid=I1D58K1HQNA63F&colid=3KXRJYRPJ4S5U&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
to go alnog with the esp8266 and led strip
I see only 3.3v
skalavala, VIN or or some other pin will share the USB input
how many LEDs can we power with that psu?
dshokouhi, you just need to find out how much amperage you'll need for the length of your strip. A regular usb charger may be enough to power everything
i was probably gonna start with the 16 ft one i think
i wanted to mess around with it before i get longer strips
so if i were to power it from the VIN what would i need to get to do that? im kinda confused on that too lol
Yeah then you'll need a proper power supply ๐ There was a video about the strips and their requirements on YouTube. I'll find it for you. Just add like 50% to that and you should be fine
@shy comet upto 30amps -lower brightness you can have more leds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnvircC22hU There it is
So around 13W/150leds (2.6A/150leds @ 5V) for WS2812 at max brightness
yea so i def need that power supply then ok
depends on the leds/m
so do i power the esp8266 from that or do i just keep the esp plugged in usb?
Power everything from the same power supply. ESP consumption will be negligible compared to the strip.
what type of wiring do i need to power the ESP from the supply?
i feel like a noob here lol
this belongs more in #diy-archived but I doubt it matters much. It's not a whole lot of power, but I'm sure someone knows the actual numbers too
@last plaza @shy comet vin pin on esp8266 can be up to 20 v dc ...i have most of mine powered from 12v ....i like 12 volt strips as voltage drop is not as big of a issue
Thatโs what she said!
I mean thatโs what he (@orchid rose) said!
Someone should package the two together.
so do i need something like this to power teh ESP via VIN pin? https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-FT232BL-Version-Arduino-ESP8266/dp/B07JN8YLPV/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=5v+usb+esp8266&qid=1585082744&sr=8-3 or am i not getting it still ๐
That $9 is waste. Just use old usb and solder the wires. You will save a lot of money.
@shy comet What you do is use regular 5v micro usb and connect directly to esp8266. Them use the vcc pin to supply power to led strip
yep
well, depending on how much current you need
@last plaza did you get your WLED board going or nah?
Nah! Not yet. Didnโt use the step down converter yet.
This wfh is killing me. More number of calls than before.
Yeah, I've got more calls than before, but that's mostly about making sure the team is doing ok
some folks are handling this "not so well"
Tinkerer, what do you do for a living? you're ALWAYS here helping people....
Not always - it just seems that way ๐
Mostly I mess with people's sense of reality
Also, right now, WFH
most of society is wfh...
Yup, and I'm using this place as a way of helping balance out my sanity, or whatever is left of it
hell of a way to do it ๐
the title of that subreddit sums it up perfectly.
It's all relative
I'm more stable than a weeble-wobble in a tornado, which is fine
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Looks nice!
yeah and cheap lol
I like more than one magnification
my eyes suck, I know i'm going to need some
I donโt mind buying one of those.
yeah I'm going for it
do you find it easier to hold the soldering iron with your primary hand, or use that one to hold the solder?
my stuff should all be coming today, minus that magnificationt hing I just ordered
amazon went to crap, everything that says prime now says april 22
We should have a #shopping-list channel.
Yup. Amazon is not delivering anytime before April 22 for us too.
see what cool things other people are getting
I have no power on discord so someone else has to do that.
@tidal bronze is the man for it.
I donโt think we can do it in here. But we can have a web site for our stuff.
We should have a #shopping-list channel.
@last plaza what @clear ferry would add to it would be inappropriate for this discord server. lol
True!
There's a #social section on the forum, maybe it'd fit there ๐คท
maybeh
More of a hobbyist tools - it can be anything fun and interesting- like survival must haves, electronics must haves ...etc
I will need a fire retardant suit before posting my list.
lol
Tiny list
I thought you had a complete list
i honestly think we could have a place here for that ............a ton of us are diy and looking for parts
would need to be managed of course
#hardware-suggestions
yea ^^^
I made lists to organize stuff I was looking at, its also helpful when you are crazy hard to buy for, to make a list and give it to people lol
votes to move to top of list or bottom
no preference
Must be very clear that no one item is better than the other. Or else will end up in a shitshow pretty quick
maybe a google docs that is linked and users can some how thru a vote to bot to incrrease or decrease popalirity
Not a voting system but user count per device would be better so people can decide.
yea that sounds good ...
is that a function of discord
sk can make it happen .... @rain swift so shh
The list doesnโt have to be just hardware - I like stuff like survival gear, upvoting and downvoting- hmmm. Reddit?
Yep
@last plaza so AR15's too
That will be part of zombie apocalypse section
I am starting to like this plan more and more.
@last plaza I like the voting system but best would be to mark what you use.
Reddit votes most are fanboys.
I mean people can leave reviews on reddit anyways
Yup. We should be able to@provide information like pros, cons and additional details for each item - like firmware update links, examples...etc
I don't get on voting on shit that one would like to have
@last plaza can you do your magic with the bot for this?
Sure! We can make the Bot do wonders.
Right on
skynet
awesome @tidal bronze @last plaza i have already posted in mods ...so it is The Way
lol - we just need to figure out a way to organize if the lists grow - need to think about categories, maintaining items...etc
Example recommendations for irrigation controller gives top 5 with user count next to it.
how about we do it outside discord? Discord has limitations in terms of content lengths...etc - thinking out loud
i am like murdock I Love it when a plan comes togther
someone make sure to send me an invite lol
whatever you think is best
ok... on it!
Come to think of it... once completed and data populated, will be the LIST OF LISTS ๐
yup - that's the idea!
My only request is not be price biased or brand biased, just vanilla usage stats
like must-have's, and/or best of the best that experts prefer to have in their tool belt
yep.
Price point should be decided by the viewer
Many questions start with best end with cheapest which rarely goes together ๐
true!
depends, like how you can put something together with a nodemcu and have it be much cheaper than a zwave device that cost 3-4 times as much, but one requires a little more work, the other doesn't.
@last plaza if you can also work something into like retail alternatives @ price point for DIY things like motion sensors. Thinking about xiaomi /zigbee stuff. Don't need to send new users chasing stuff when we have passed that era ๐
yup
welp trump wants us piling into a church together on Easter. nice knowing ya world
already easing on social distancing!
yea he wants to open up shop way too quickly
cares more about the stock market than the people it seems
it sounds like he want to open up parts of the country but keep places like cali, ny and washington on lock down
not a smart idea if people are still spreading it because they literally dont care
i have a handful of friends who were potentially exposed because the person didnt want to self isolate and kept going to work and doing their thing
the next 2 to 4 weeks would be crucial to keep the numbers down - mission is not accomplished yet!
Cleaning up home diy drawers ๐
wow lol
wtf quad you hoarder lol


