#the-water-cooler

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tidal bronze
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Ah ha ha

forest edge
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@green inlet it's kind of like the same reason you never drink water from a garden hose cause the particles of stuff in the hose leeches into the water. with hot water tanks you got various rubber seals and all kind of crap that leech into the water

last dirge
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Norwat water is very a-fjord-able

green inlet
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Yes.....but......kill you....not

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I drink from a garden hose all the time

forest edge
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hmm kill you or make you impotent.. i choose death alex for $500

river rune
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The complete path our water takes is 14feet up a pipe, about 20 feet horizontal into our pump, then about 15 feet of flex piping to our spigots...

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Some gets diverted into a pressure tank, and some into the hot water tank...

forest edge
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very curious what that taste like

river rune
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Fresh

forest edge
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yea well what may be fresh to you might make some of us gag lol

clear ferry
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Like Norwegian water I would recon

river rune
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Nice and cold, straight from the sink. No need to have ice or refridgerate it just to get a cold drink

forest edge
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@clear ferry isn't Norwegian water just grey water from Sweden? lol

river rune
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lol

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It tastes like water... Instead of like chlorine

forest edge
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wondering at what point i should be fetching the mail out of the mailbox with salad tongs lol

clever mortar
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Yesterday, but don't forget to sterilise the tongs afterwards.

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And soak the mail in something suitable to kill off any latent virus

river rune
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Or just let it sit in your mailbox until tomorrow...

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It doesn't last on surfaces very long

clever mortar
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And set fire to it?

forest edge
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well I could use one of those glass jars you see at the haircutting places that sterilize the combs and lysol the mail lol

river rune
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Might make it a little hard to read...

green inlet
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Does anyone actually get any important mail anymore. I vote we stop recycling and just offset it with policies against junk mail.

forest edge
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well tax crap comes by mail

green inlet
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I got all mine online

forest edge
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some orders get shoved in the mailbox

green inlet
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Well thatโ€™s different ๐Ÿ˜‰. You requested it.

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I could prob fill half my recycle bin with junk mail

river rune
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We burn most of our paper trash up here...

forest edge
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oh damn alaskans contributing to global warming

green inlet
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Lmao.....I knew that was coming

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I have to use more sunscreen cause of the damn alskianians

forest edge
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lol

clear ferry
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@green inlet I only get letters from American companies, anything else I get digital, and packages from China

green inlet
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I have all my Norwegian mail diverted at the post office

clear ferry
green inlet
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๐Ÿคฃ

clear ferry
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Merrill lynch and similar to be specific

green inlet
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Anything I can I signup for online delivery

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Investments and all

clear ferry
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All bills come automatically into my bank, and any receipts for anything comes to Digipost for the last 5 years

green inlet
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I am only on day 3 of WFH and I am a bit slap happy. Just ignore me ๐Ÿ˜‰

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I just finished building some hard drive caddyโ€™s for my raspi server rack. Need to take them down for a couple hours so I can finish the install

strange vapor
subtle crypt
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lol

idle warren
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hello anybody running ha on docker container ?

wet pilot
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tons

clever mortar
last dirge
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I am

clever mortar
hushed basalt
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Help me, help you

shy comet
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wow tempting

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been cautious about take out stuff though...still room for contamination

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my wife did find some official guidelines around it though

tidal bronze
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I know it's a risk but......๐Ÿ˜œ

shy comet
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yea i mean as long as we are smart about handling the food its ok

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literally using lysol wipes on amazon packages here

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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

tidal bronze
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Same here. Stopped all amazon orders

shy comet
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oh you stopped ordering? we use amazon for pet food and baby stuff so were always ordering lol

tidal bronze
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Yep stopped will do for 2 more weeks.

shy comet
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at least man

river rune
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I ordered some more D1 Minis and a few sonoffs yesterday...

shy comet
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lausd pushed back to May 1...surprised they didnt cancel teh school year yet

tidal bronze
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I have all my orders from china just sitting at the shop. They are back to 70% production in Shenzhen

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Don't want to open the boxes yet. Lol

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I feel bad for the DHL guy. He is pretty worried.

river rune
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blobshrug Just let them sit for a day. It really doesn't last on surfaces for very long.

tidal bronze
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2 to 3 days. We get our shipments here in 2 days.

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I am going to let it sit there for 9 to 10 days. Don't want to put guys at work at risk.

shy comet
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yea you gotta think about the different ways things can get contaminated

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all the way down to the last person touching it thats not you

thick dragon
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The study suggests that people may acquire the coronavirus through the air and after touching contaminated objects. Scientists discovered the virus is detectable for up to three hours in aerosols, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel.

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You're pretty safe after 4-5 days

shy comet
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yes but you want to be EXTRA safe

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lol

river rune
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Yep, I'm just going to leave it alone for a few days before opening...

shy comet
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were never gonna look at amazon packages the same guys

river rune
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and wear gloves when I go pick it up

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I keep a box of nitrile gloves for doing maintenance on my vehicles so I still have a decent supply.

shy comet
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@river rune yea we just bought a box from costco ourselves

tidal bronze
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Amazon actually I am not worried about the product itself. Just handling here. But work stuff I am worried about actual product. They don't usually wear gloves in china working with CNC carbon fiber. ๐Ÿ˜„

shy comet
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yea dude make sure to wear a face mask when you open it @tidal bronze

strange vapor
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I gave my brother my spare monitor. Currently have a Debian box with CLI and borked SSD plugged into a 40" TV. The characters are so big it's almost headache inducing to read!

tidal bronze
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I don't handle direct most of the time. But yes better to be safe. @shy comet

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China is cranking it up like crazy.

hushed basalt
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People give TPS flak for not dealing in well in crisis like this

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But I think true TPS deals much better with this than traditional production methods

strange vapor
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Hmm, the dodgy SSD is a HooDisk which I hadn't heard of before, but they seem to be somewhat known.

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Possibly just unluck with that one.

last plaza
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I am surprised Bill Gates isnโ€™t ready with N95 masks for the world yet. He kept on talking about pandemic for number of years now.

hushed basalt
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I think Bill Gates has done a lot

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But a lot of things are fundamentally in the domain of governments not foundations or corporations

last plaza
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I now feel how the world used to be before amazon prime.

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I canโ€™t get anything before end of April now on Amazon.

green inlet
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The world is slowly shutting down

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Ctrl+alt+Delete

last plaza
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Dear God, Can you please uninstall 2020 and reinstall? It has virus! ๐Ÿฆ 

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UK going into shutdown mode too!

thick dragon
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NZ is going shutdown tomorrow. 4 weeks self-isolation apparently.

hushed basalt
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Australia is basically letting it burn

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RIP 5%+ of our population

thick dragon
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Classic ScoMo

hushed basalt
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This will be worse than WW2.

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Except instead of 18 year old men dying it will be 80 year olds

thick dragon
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Pretty morbid, but guess that will mean less chance of the right-wing winning again. Clear out some of the old bigots.

hushed basalt
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I'm not sure how much unbiased data has come in about how it affects younger people though

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China can't be trusted on any level for honesty

tidal bronze
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@last plaza going to bring down some masks this week.

thick dragon
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I lived through 3 weeks of glandular fever at 35 years old - I feel like it isn't likely to be any worse than that.

last plaza
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@tidal bronze from where?

tidal bronze
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China where else. ๐Ÿ˜„

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Most are coming from there anyways

last plaza
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Not the best time to go to China ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

tidal bronze
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Not going there, can't come back.

last plaza
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You should have gotten some from Singapore. It wasnโ€™t that bad at the time

hushed basalt
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Also protip. Buy a car battery charger now, since we're all looking at periods of lockdown

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I recommend ctek

last plaza
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You need to quarantine masks once you get them

tidal bronze
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Everybody and there mother is making masks there. Average order is 3 to 5 million pieces my buddies were saying.

last plaza
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@hushed basalt why car battery?

tidal bronze
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All going to US

last plaza
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Wow!!!

hushed basalt
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Because we might be stuck in our homes for 4 weeks

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So no driving

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Battery go kaplut

last plaza
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Ah! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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One of my car battery is already dead.

hushed basalt
last plaza
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I leave it outside for the winter.

tidal bronze
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4s lipo ๐Ÿ˜œ

hushed basalt
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It's a good thing to have

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Even during peace time

last plaza
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I have a battery charger - got one from Costco for my lawn tractor

hushed basalt
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I'd recommend not cheaping out too much, dc supplies and batteries are very complex things

last plaza
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Those trickle chargers are good

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Yup.

tidal bronze
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I always use a 4s lipo. Got plenty lying around.

hushed basalt
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4s lipo to do what?

green inlet
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Jump your car?

tidal bronze
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Jump start anything.

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Or use regenerative discharge

last plaza
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What if your car is a battery car? ๐Ÿคฃ

hushed basalt
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You need some more smarts than that

green inlet
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I have a huge Lipo I used for my remote start for airplanes. Need to look into that

hushed basalt
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And prevention is better than a cure

tidal bronze
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@green inlet easiest and smallest, works like a charm

last plaza
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@green inlet you had a Lipo? ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

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Huge lipo?

hushed basalt
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These things are like half the cost of a standard car battery and will last 10-20 years

tidal bronze
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No small one would do anything over 5000mah

green inlet
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But I already have a lipo

last plaza
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Yup. Costco here Carrieโ€™s good brands.

tidal bronze
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All new lipo chargers come with regenerative discharge. You can even do a regular charge using a lipo. ๐Ÿ˜€

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Discharge the lipo into a 12v sealed

green inlet
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I have touched my RC stuff in years ๐Ÿ™

last plaza
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I also have imax B6

tidal bronze
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B6 does not come with that. ๐Ÿ™„

last plaza
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although I rarely use it. I bought it to charge my 18650 home made battery pack.

green inlet
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You have a big lipo to skalava

tidal bronze
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Amazon got tons of lipo jump starters with usb and all the bells and whistles

last plaza
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No more 2day Amazon prime anymore.

tidal bronze
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I know. Waiting for some opto isolators 2 weeks out.

last plaza
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Crazy how much you will miss when you need something.

tidal bronze
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Funny Google coral is only a week out.

green inlet
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Off to watch lion king on Netflix

last plaza
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Where are you going to use this Opto isolators?

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@green inlet which version? There are like 10 versions of the same movie.

green inlet
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Sorry. Tiger king lmao.

last plaza
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And they still make money on it

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lol

tidal bronze
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Working on some logic level converters and need to isolate trigger to detection.

last plaza
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Saw the preview of it. Let us know how it is, so that we donโ€™t have to waste our valuable time @green inlet ๐Ÿคฃ

tidal bronze
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@last plaza are you still on tensor ? Going to coral and rtsp

last plaza
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I am.

green inlet
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People say it is crazy. Only on episode 2. Slow start.

last plaza
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@tidal bronze let me know how it goes.

tidal bronze
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Honestly nothing great on netflix anymore. They are punching out so much content and mostly crap.

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Will do.

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I thought you tested deepstack

last plaza
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I am watching these crazy weird adult cartoons these days. Hope nothing is wrong with me. Like brickleberry and paradise pd ๐Ÿค“

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I tested machinebox, tensorflow only. Deepracer I havenโ€™t completed yet.

tidal bronze
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I started paradise pd but little off for me. Must try harder.

last plaza
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lol.

tidal bronze
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Homeland is off the hook this season.

last plaza
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Homeland was great first few seasons. After that, I lost track.

tidal bronze
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Was slow last few seasons. This one mind blowing.

shy comet
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yea after season 3-4 of homeland i was done

tidal bronze
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Check out this season.

shy comet
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im too far behind lol

last plaza
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I watched until Carrie acts mental and all. That was the only season I binge watched all night - non stop for 16 hours.

shy comet
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even walking dead i stopped before teh last season

tidal bronze
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You don't need the past seasons for this

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Walking dead became meh

last plaza
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I could never watch WD. May be 1 season and after that i was out.

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Iโ€™m still super pissed on the GoT last season.

shy comet
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man i wish they brought back rick and morty to finish up season 4

last plaza
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I started to watch Rick and Morty with my kids, I could tell they werenโ€™t into it.

tidal bronze
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New Amsterdam started as well. I really like neighborhood too

last plaza
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Hmm

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Except Disney+, we got everything, and yet donโ€™t have much to watch.

tidal bronze
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Plex

slim laurel
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What up guys???

last plaza
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There are only 4 episodes in Rick and Morty season 4.

slim laurel
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Taking advantage of the staying at home to work on my HA...

last plaza
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Good for you!

slim laurel
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I have been updating but not innovating or improving

tidal bronze
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@last plaza do you have plex ?

last plaza
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I did, but removed it from my NAS.

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Was doing too much transcoding and using up cpu like crazy

tidal bronze
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Run in the server

last plaza
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I moved all the media to an external drive and connected directly to tv.

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Hmm.. keep the media elsewhere, but run plex on server?

slim laurel
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My latest quest is that I want to integrate my cctv to HA and get some object detection. I think I may have to move way from my current NVR solution which is currently Surveillance station on Synology.

tidal bronze
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@last plaza yep.

last plaza
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Ok. Never thought that way.

tidal bronze
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@slim laurel I use SS with tensor

last plaza
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Easy peasy.

tidal bronze
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Yep

slim laurel
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@tidal bronze nice!!!!

tidal bronze
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@last plaza you should do the plex thing immediately lol

slim laurel
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I have struggled with using SS I thought I would have to move to shinobi or motioneye

last plaza
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Yup. On it.

slim laurel
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@tidal bronze I love SS for everything else but I did not how to offload the person detection etc...

last plaza
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Thatโ€™s where you use ha.

tidal bronze
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Add to HA and the rest is the same.

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Becomes a regular camera.

last plaza
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You got a dedicated linux host to run plex?

slim laurel
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@tidal bronze not sure where to begin add the cameras or the synology integration

tidal bronze
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SS integration and that's it. Whitelist the cameras you want.

velvet horizonBOT
tidal bronze
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@last plaza I run plex on on syno and another syno for media.

slim laurel
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@tidal bronze where do you do the tensor

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I have a dell server acting as a syno

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works great

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runs my HA in a VM and all my dockers

tidal bronze
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Once you do the integration rest is simple.

last plaza
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@tidal bronze I donโ€™t want to run plex on my NAS. Where else I can run?

slim laurel
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and my plex

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@last plaza what model do you have?

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Are you direct playing or transcoding

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You would need a mini cpu with a quicksync capable cpu

tidal bronze
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@last plaza run on the Dell. But you have do some research on getting ESXI to passrhru HW resources for HW transcoding

last plaza
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Copy. Got plenty of time to research that.

slim laurel
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I am running DSM bare metal on the dell

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hardware passthrough not an issue

tidal bronze
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He is running esxi

slim laurel
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the cpu is intel quicksync compatible

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so it will transcode in hardware

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ohhh

tidal bronze
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So do I ๐Ÿ˜€

slim laurel
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then you need to get a GPU to do the passthrough

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in exsi

tidal bronze
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Even then it's not clear cut as running bare metal

slim laurel
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yea it depends on the passthrough support

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unraid has really good hardware passthrough

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You may want to investigate that

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FreeNas not so much

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but baremetal is pretty rock solid

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@tidal bronze I have a dell t30

last plaza
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@tidal bronze let me know how the coral works out.

slim laurel
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ohhh I want to get one of those

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coral cards

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or usb compute thingies

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@tidal bronze so can you tell me a little more about your setup

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I have my SS recording all the time. I had to turn off notifications because they are all junk a tree moving a shadow on the floor etc...

last plaza
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It is all documented. If you follow the link I shared above, it is easy.

slim laurel
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ahh yes I hadnt seen any of the tensor stuff in there

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but yes I will check those out

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So are you having issues with CPU and transcoding

last plaza
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No, Iโ€™m good.

tidal bronze
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@last plaza I will let you know about coral and planning to test deepstack as well.

last plaza
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Sweet!

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Iโ€™m going to order one. Itโ€™ll probably take a month or two before it comes anyway.

tidal bronze
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It's on Amazon

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Pretty interesting when wife sends a text saying "walked into the closet light didn't turn on instantly, is everything ok?"

last plaza
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lmao

tidal bronze
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Can't even restart HA during business hours.

last plaza
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Yup. Nothing gets delivered until April 21.

tidal bronze
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I got lucky then. Mine coming on Saturday

last plaza
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Great. I think for me, it comes from CA. You are local... it only makes sense.

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Almost any electronic item I pick, the earliest delivery date shows April 21. Kids ordered some books, they are coming this Thursday

tidal bronze
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PM me your plex gmail.

last plaza
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Ok...

slim laurel
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Guys is there a tutorial about the tensor part that you recommend?

velvet horizonBOT
slim laurel
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I am reading the docs and I am confused

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lol

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At first my wife thought that the automation was the peak of laziness as she called it now she freaks out if she cant run the goodnight routine

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@tidal bronze last question do you get motion notifications in HA or in SS?

tidal bronze
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Don't do motion notifications.

slim laurel
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person detections?

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or do you just have the tensor for live view?

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Thanks!

tidal bronze
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person, car, truck and dog. Object size based line crossing and intrusion detection direct from HIK cameras

slim laurel
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Nice!!! I would love to do that but what do you once it has been detected? It doesnt notify you or you use it to review past footage? For me the value would be in getting notified if a human or dog or car etc...in my property

tidal bronze
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That's what I have for notifications. Only notify for person / car etc. Regular motion detection is only used for SS recording for anything else pixel based motion detection is pointless

slim laurel
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I agree pixel based is pointless. I would get hundreds of notifications a day and it was a tree swaying

tidal bronze
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The only time I review footage is when I misplace something ๐Ÿ™‚

slim laurel
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lol

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So you have your SS recording all the time I guess then you bring in the cameras into HA and integrate with tensor

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the notifications are from HA?

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@tidal bronze Pardon my ignorance man

tidal bronze
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SS recording on motion.
SS integrated to HA
Tensor flow based screenshot notifications for people and dogs
Door Sensor based screenshots for garage doors, side gates, front door.

slim laurel
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Hmm so its the ss integration and not the camera integration

tidal bronze
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Correct

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Add to HA and take it for a spin. You ain't going to break anything.

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Best way is to test it out.

slim laurel
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It seems to be deprecated

tidal bronze
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My use case is pretty different, I mainly track dogs with the cameras, not worried about people or intrusion etc.

slim laurel
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same base setup though

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But its amazing to know your dogs got out...I wish I had a few years ago when one of mine got out and got hit by a car...

tidal bronze
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So sorry to hear that. For me it's mainly because of one of my neighbors, nicest guy but shit scared of large dogs. He calls me from his car all locked up saying my dog is in his yard. ๐Ÿ™‚ Don't want to cause a heart attack.

slim laurel
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wow...everyone has their fears you have to respect that. My female German Shepherd got way and a car hit her

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it sucked

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I cried like a little bitch

tidal bronze
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I would too. Beautiful dog.

slim laurel
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And in 2018 I had to put down my Male

tidal bronze
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My older one is recovering from a major surgery almost lost my mind. Finally he is back to normal.

slim laurel
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Not going to lie to you havent been the same

tidal bronze
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I can't even imagine what I would do when that day comes.

slim laurel
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I still have my schnauzer

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in the house

tidal bronze
slim laurel
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lol is it a schnauzer?

tidal bronze
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Yep Giant

slim laurel
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wow I have a little one

tidal bronze
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Just got back after removing the staples today.

slim laurel
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wow...

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Its funny because we stress over them like if they were kids

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people who dont have dogs dont get it

tidal bronze
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Don't have kids so they are my kids ๐Ÿ™‚

slim laurel
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Furrbabies

tidal bronze
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Yep.

slim laurel
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I get it brother! Trust me. My little one is like 13

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she is getting old and loosing her fire

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We fear the day when she crosses over the rainbow bridge

tidal bronze
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I hear you.

slim laurel
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I am not ready for getting another big dog

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my wife tells me about it all the time but I am not there yet. I did a lot of training with the male and he was like super bonded to me

tidal bronze
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After the scare few weeks ago I am also thinking hard now.

slim laurel
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Yea its crazy...man.

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But they give us so much joy and love

tidal bronze
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100%

thick dragon
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I need to do a bit more work on getting SS the way I want it. Need to do some object recognition and whatnot, motion isn't reliable with a dog.

slim laurel
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My kid is still prays every night for Kaiser

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He had him with him all his life

thick dragon
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Is yours a Schnauzer @tidal bronze? I have a mini ๐Ÿ™‚

tidal bronze
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Yes a giant.

slim laurel
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She is a large mini or a small standard

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we adopted her

thick dragon
slim laurel
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when she was about 1.5 years old We think they bread her

tidal bronze
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Too cute ๐Ÿ™‚

slim laurel
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nice!

thick dragon
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I call Schnauzers "aggressively friendly". They all seem to need to meet any dog that they pass.

tidal bronze
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Yep. My St. Bernard is even worse. Too friendly. Creates so many issues with small dogs and their owners.

slim laurel
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This is our Gigi

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schnauzers are crazy smart. She will do your taxes for a hot dog

thick dragon
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Yeah, Mogwai only just started calming down/maturing in the last 6 months. He's 3 now.

slim laurel
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sounds about right

tidal bronze
slim laurel
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They are a ball of energy. She would chase flying birds....lol

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and jump until she hit the fence

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@tidal bronze Hey man I gotta run promised my son I would watch a movie with him. He is on spring break so I got no excuses....lol Thanks for the heads up on the tensor. I will have to do some massive reading because it all looks like chinese to me....lol

tidal bronze
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have fun

slim laurel
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I will integrate SS and then try the tensor

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Thanks!'

tidal bronze
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You are welcome. Pretty easy once you get started. I looked at the integration after years lol. Always worked for me.

slim laurel
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The tensor stuff has me nervouse

tidal bronze
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Piece of cake.

hushed basalt
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Dogs are better than people

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Will get a dog when we get our own house

slim laurel
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ok guys have a great night!

hushed basalt
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Whenever that will be in this economy

tidal bronze
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I don't think this is going to go for months. Best is to be positive. ๐Ÿ™‚

clear ferry
wet pilot
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Leaks from cdc say 18m

clear ferry
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That is what will probably be necessary with a slow response

wet pilot
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Yup

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US is fubar

clear ferry
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Not even all states are doing curfews yet thenk

thick dragon
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Maybe this will finally be the wake-up call to get public healthcare back on the agenda.

wet pilot
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Whispers say that my county is going in full lockdown tomorrow

thick dragon
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NZ is full 4-week lockdown tomorrow. Apparently the stores are pandemonium today.

clear ferry
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We went nationwide lockdown two Fridays ago

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KISS

wet pilot
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Yup

clear ferry
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Most annoying thing for norwegians right now is the closed schools and kindergartens, but schools do remote classes, kindergartens on the other hand, me and the wife swaps taking care of and working PepeLightsabers

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Expect it to be like this for atleast two more weeks

tidal bronze
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@wet pilot already plans to lift stay-at-home ๐Ÿ™‚

forest edge
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Trump wants to reopen the country by end of this week

tidal bronze
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Yep

forest edge
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only hotspots will remained stay at home while everywhere else will go back as normal

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and they will determine if new places need to take action if people start dying

hushed basalt
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I don't even

tidal bronze
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I think that's better. Corona is going to look like peanuts if the economy goes to shit

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Got to head out to Tennessee soon and don' want to drive ๐Ÿ™‚

clear ferry
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But I wanted to see what happens to capitalism after two weeks of lockdown thonk

tidal bronze
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Still be better than anything else.

hushed basalt
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Shots fired

tidal bronze
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Pretty sure you are sowing the seeds of the evil capitalism when you rant about HPE all day ๐Ÿ™‚ @clear ferry and..... you're Welcome!

clear ferry
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ah, norwegian taxes

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recieved my tax papers today at 10:15

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filled the changes I wanted now at 10:50, and sent the papers in

low harness
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Got mine weeks ago. Done with in two minutes, because I had to upgrade my e-ID first.

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And by "papers" I mean email.

clear ferry
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I have to change some driving things, because we get tax back for any kilometers we drive at work

low harness
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I live too close to work for that.

clear ferry
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last year I didn't have too much, so I only got NOK13k back, usually I get 30k back

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I get all kilometers at work, except to the office

low harness
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We can get for the kms to the office too, if it's above a certain distance and you can prove that mass transit is not reasonable.

clear ferry
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yeah, if it is over 140km round trip I think here

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but I get any kilometers at work from my employer, then I write them off at the end of the year

honest geode
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Here you get ~0.29 USD/km if you have more than 12 km to work

clear ferry
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We get paid 0.35 USD per kilometre driven

honest geode
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This is just between home and the office. Everything from home to somewhere else, and back of course, is 0.52 USD/km

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I usually get 200-300 USD per month in tax free compensation. Not a lot, but decent,

clear ferry
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We used to have two tariff, one up to 12000km and one above, now it's the same for all kilometres

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I get $7000 per year in kilometres usually

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Plus all road taxes covered by employer

honest geode
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Not bad.

clear ferry
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Pretty standard over here for most

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I just get it up front and have to write off the km I actually drive, most get it month by month

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But same values

honest geode
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I'm currently "rented out" as a external consultant, and with these corona lockdowns, I'm not doing so much driving ๐Ÿ˜›

clear ferry
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Same here, but still get most of my work done from home, just no military stuff

hushed basalt
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You could send in your drone

clear ferry
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Wouldn't help much when I can't control it lmao

honest geode
clear ferry
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But those are amps

honest geode
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Part of the equation ๐Ÿ˜‰

clear ferry
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But, it's still not watts

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And if it is 12v it isn't even MW lmao

honest geode
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Now calculate the power, given that may assume all three phases are equal and cos(phi)=1

clever mortar
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Light bulb goes kaboom

honest geode
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We have an incident, which drew just over 24.000 Amps for a few cycles.. made the light blink in half the country ๐Ÿ˜„

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And yes, that did go "boom"

clever mortar
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Yeah, I worked with somebody who'd been in the power generation industry, and they had some scary tales of what happens if you don't treat things with respect

honest geode
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In this case we had over 5 GW for a few cycles

strange vapor
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A friend of my fathers got really badly burnt when someone took a shortcut in a power plant and he got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Nowdays he does safety training and inspection, and has some really nasty scars from burns which add a lot of emphasis to the training

honest geode
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Yea, I've seen one who had gotten hit by a 10 kV arc.. not good

strange vapor
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I believe this happened in Tarbert in the south of Ireland, which has multiple oil turbines. Not sure what exactly he got hit with, but it was enough to give him burns over 40% of his body.

clear ferry
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Oof

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I was standing in one of Norway's oldest hydro power plants

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That shit is fun to watch go

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Think the turbines were from the 60s

clever mortar
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Hydro is a good way of reminding you that nature is brutal

clear ferry
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Yeah, standing on the top of it looking down was like 40m down to the water itself

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And it still shook me

strange vapor
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There's a real cool "power station" near where I live called Turlough Hil. It's a "Pumped Storage" station which pumps water to an upper lake by night, and then lets it run down through turbines by day.

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Every few years it's shut down for maintainence, and near the end of the maintainence they do tours.

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It's really really really damn cool walking down where normally there's enough flowing water to generate over 200MW ๐Ÿ™‚

clear ferry
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We produce 150-200TWh per year of hydro

strange vapor
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The Eirgrid Dashboard doesn't break down what renewables are responsible for our power, but I'm betting most of it is wind power: http://smartgriddashboard.eirgrid.com/#all

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Yup, mostly wind!

hushed basalt
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Coal!

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Lovely lovely coal

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Wind farms cause global warming! /s

clear ferry
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@tawny pebble ppBear ppBear ppBear

tawny pebble
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@clear ferry LOL - i was gonna ask something that i found a click away, now i'm just struggling to create a Pull request. It's alright mildpanic

clear ferry
tawny pebble
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@clear ferry Done (: if all goes fine we'll see a new theme, based on a theme i found a year ago (bug-fixed) and magically disappeared

clear ferry
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Restore the backup ;)

midnight adder
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hahaha - sure - he made a backup before blindly poking around in stuff ๐Ÿคฃ

clear ferry
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Backups should run atleast once a day, or else you can just close down shop now pepoThink

midnight adder
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I would love to say to him, no backup, no pittey ๐Ÿ’ข

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my homelab is save!

clever mortar
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If you're not automatically taking regular backups you're doing IT wrong

clear ferry
clever mortar
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Also, you should be checking the logs (automatically) and notifying on failure. Oh, and regularly testing random restores so you know you can...

clear ferry
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Wait what, you test restores regularly? mindblown mindblown mindblown mindblown mindblown

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๐Ÿ’ฉ

clever mortar
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Scary shit I know

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MD5 is "mostly good enough" IMO

midnight adder
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I got rather the attidude that you should be ready to burn almost everything down and still be able to recover. But well - the guy is just an researcher

clear ferry
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So it's on his machine?

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That data should be disposable

clever mortar
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If you didn't back it up you didn't care about it ๐Ÿคท

midnight adder
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ehh - its a rather nice challange

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but you get to a point where you are stuck and need some new input

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I mean the data is there - He just run fsck over it, cleard the superblock, reallocated the group discriptors and send me a screenshot doing it.

clear ferry
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We just extended the Norwegian lockdown for three more weeks Nootnoot

tidal bronze
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@clever mortar have you tested wireguard with site to site?

clever mortar
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I haven't, I'm just using it for mobile clients

clear ferry
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Same here, as I only have one site ATM, but should be no different

hearty depot
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Only 2 weeks lockdown here in Austria, but the prime minister already said something about that we shouldn't consider big changes until June.

clever mortar
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Three weeks here. You know it's bad when McDonalds closes ๐Ÿคฃ

clear ferry
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Fnap

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I don't mind working from home at all, but I have to watch the baby 50% of the time lmao

midnight adder
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ooooh

clever mortar
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I'm glad ours is old enough we don't have to do that. School from home is proving interesting though - but at least MS Teams isn't melting today ๐Ÿ˜„

clear ferry
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Yeah, the wife studies over the internet anyway

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Had no issues there

hearty depot
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Also using gotomeeting? It's coming up hard around here

last plaza
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@green inlet I also started to watch tiger king last night! Completed about 4 episodes.

clear ferry
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upgrading my rpi ๐Ÿคข from stretch to buster to make it my zigbee2mqtt docker host in the middle of the house instead of the garage mindblown

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@hearty depot they use some software called blackboard and a few others, including teams

wet pilot
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ah blackboard

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my wife's school district uses Canvas

clear ferry
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they use that too

hearty depot
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Uuh - will look into it
Teams/goto is the actual Austria combo

clear ferry
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I've only ever seen indian companies use gotomeeting ๐Ÿค”

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I should use some other storage on my pi, currently using a USB stick, but I prefer that over a SD card anyday

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PXE-booting might be a good option, no use with zigbee2mqtt without power \ the rest of the servers up anyway ๐Ÿคฃ

forest edge
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Good morning Vietnam!

clear ferry
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Getting there @forest edge

forest edge
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Before the weekend Trump was all like, stay at home, go nowhere, do nothing!, after the weekend Trump was like, Go back to work! and now all these companies had already planned to be closed through to the end of april lol

clear ferry
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I sure hope they will stay closed

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or you will have a shitshow

forest edge
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Trump wants to keep "hot spots" closed down while allowing area with little or no cases to reopen lol

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and I guess close them down when we start dying lol

strange vapor
clear ferry
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all I can think of when someone tells a story like that is Greg Davis' standup show where he talks about the little girl he had a student when he was at teacher

forest edge
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when does norway plan to go back to work atx?

clear ferry
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3+ weeks

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so far

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earliest 14th of april

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then a new assessment will be made

last plaza
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I still got RPis running Xenia. I need to upgrade all of them to buster.

forest edge
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you mean jessie?

last plaza
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Yup ๐Ÿ˜Š

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Jessie and stretch. I have both.

forest edge
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yea all my older pi's still run jessie

clear ferry
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you are monsters

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almost as bad as my customers

orchid rose
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hey, customer is always right!

clear ferry
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I prefer never trust the customer

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and i never do

forest edge
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you know not every new thing is "better" lol

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"if it works don't touch it"

clear ferry
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๐Ÿคข

forest edge
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yea that would make you sick, cause then you'd have nothing to do and fix lol

clear ferry
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you have obviously never heard of software never being fixed in older versions ๐Ÿ˜‰

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there is tons of that in esxi

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"no fix avaliable for 6.7, will be fixed in 7.0u1"

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jessie lts is going out of support now too, I thought it was longer ๐Ÿค”

forest edge
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what did i just say? "if it works don't touch it" lol

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mean if it's not broken don't fix it lol

clear ferry
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supportability is a lot more interesting for people who do meaningful stuff ๐Ÿ˜‰

forest edge
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please most additions and features don't evven get used

clever mortar
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If it works don't touch it has kept me in a job for years, because it has problems you're ignoring

forest edge
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thats a salesman pitch lol

clever mortar
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Sure...

clear ferry
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tell yourself that ๐Ÿ˜‰

forest edge
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if it's not broken there is obviously no problems

clever mortar
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There is no obvious problem

clear ferry
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there are a multiude of problems

clever mortar
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Then along comes, say, a remote wormable exploit

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And boom, your network is encrypted

forest edge
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on a rpi on a closed network? that's some worm lol

clear ferry
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SMB1 ain't broken, don't fix it ๐Ÿค”

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have you heard of irans nuclear generators @forest edge ?

clever mortar
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The book makes for a good read actually

forest edge
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your just trying to justify your need for constantly needing to upgrade because every new thing is a fix yet really only adds in new problems lol

clear ferry
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tell yourself that ๐Ÿ˜‰

forest edge
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you'd be out of a job otherwise

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lol

clear ferry
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I know someone who'll never have a job in enterprise atleast, unless as a customer ๐Ÿคฃ

clever mortar
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I'm unlikely to be out of a job this side of the heat death of the universe, particularly if people don't upgrade ๐Ÿ˜‰

last plaza
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Is there a good desoldering tool available? I spent good 2 hours earlier to remove the pins that are soldered to the esp8266. It was a PITA.

clear ferry
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I used a good one once, it cost $6000

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other than that, desoldering wick

forest edge
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copper wix or one of those suck up tools

clear ferry
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๐Ÿคฃ

forest edge
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the suck up tool can be alittle tricky sometimes unless it's a decent one

midnight adder
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**floop

last plaza
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Not worth spending $6000 on a $3 esp ๐Ÿ˜‚

green inlet
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How about $5000.00?

clever mortar
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$5999.99

clear ferry
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THE ALL TIME LOW PRICE OF 5999.99

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I love american informercials

clever mortar
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Plus $4,000.01 PnP

clear ferry
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and tax

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don't forget tax

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I still don't get used to that when going to the us

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having to add tax

clever mortar
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State plus national

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It's like, WTF, why not just include it in the price, you know what it is...

clear ferry
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exactly

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๐Ÿคฃ

clever mortar
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First time I went that just hurt my head

green inlet
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When we sold our first house.....strategy was list for whatever 99.....in their heads, people think it is cheaper. We when sold our last house, realtor was like, โ€œgot to be in the 00โ€. These days, if you list for 160 instead of 159, you hit search engines from 150-160 and 160-170. When you lost for 159, you only hit 150-160

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Tax included ๐Ÿคฃ

clear ferry
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yeah, that is a good point

vestal reef
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with the current lockdown and the kids having to do their schoolwork from home, I'm looking for a good way to disable the kids phones/computers/ps4 untill they've achieved x amount of homework.. anyone got some advice on good ways to achieve this ?

clever mortar
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Depends on your router, mostly

vestal reef
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after some googling I came across arpspoof but it seems to generate alot of traffic on the network..

clever mortar
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You want to check for any sign of parental controls

vestal reef
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using adguard home for dhcp/static ip routing

clever mortar
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My Zyxel modem also allows me to block individual hosts, or groups of hosts

vestal reef
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hmm, we've got 3 different brands or routers scattered throughout the house so I'm not sure how to achieve it in any of their settings

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I know that far from ideal but it is what it is :p

clever mortar
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You've got 3 Internet connections?

vestal reef
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no, 1 inet connection and then 4 routers (1 asus, 2 linksys and one tplink) working as access points

clever mortar
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Well, they should be just access points, not routers ๐Ÿ˜‰

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In which case, you only have one device to worry about

vestal reef
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isnt the client blocking stuff you mention part of the dhcp functionality of the router ?

strange vapor
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I've got two. DSL and a 4G backup.

clever mortar
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The actual router, not the access points

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Unless you've got four different SSIDs

vestal reef
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once I set them up as access points they pretty much only allow me to set ssid and pwd and some basic wifi options

strange vapor
#

4G also gives nice out of band if the DSL goes bang

clever mortar
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Yeah, I want to sort that at some point. Now is not a good time to go messing with my Internet though ๐Ÿ˜„

vestal reef
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Not sure what you mean.. I pretty much have Inet modem > switch > 4 acces points

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and on the network is my server with adguard hone that handles the ip assigning

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so not sure where I could be setting this up ๐Ÿค”

clear ferry
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moved my zigbee2mqtt from my primary docker enviroment to a rpi3b+ with docker in less than 4 minutes

clever mortar
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@vestal reef Unless you did something wrong, those four access points are just that, access points - ignore them

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Check your router for any access control options

clear ferry
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yeah, as long as you have disabled the dhcp-server in them or set them in bridge mode or similar and plugged the lan cable into one of the lan ports they should be non blocking access points

vestal reef
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doesn't have any (settings are completely closed off by ISP too)

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was also hoping it could be automated from HA / Nodered

clever mortar
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If you had something that could do that, and it had an open API...

vestal reef
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By using arpspoof it could work I think but since that seems to cause large amounts of traffic I was hoping on a more elegant solution ๐Ÿ˜‰

green inlet
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@vestal reef , with DD-WRT you can create rules. I used to shut all the kids internet down an a specific time at night and turn it back on in the am

vestal reef
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@green inlet sadly I can't run dd-wrt ..

clever mortar
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Time to plan for a decent router ๐Ÿ˜›

green inlet
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Not even a decent one. Just one that can run dd-wrt. Cheap Ac68u off of flea bay

clear ferry
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even 15 year old routers could run dd-wrt ๐Ÿค”

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but pfsense\opnsense 4 lyfe

green inlet
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Or you could always go the old fashion route of,โ€no internet till your school work is finishedโ€

vestal reef
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yeah, tried that :p

green inlet
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Yea, me too. Then I got dd-wrt๐Ÿคฃ

clear ferry
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kids ๐Ÿ˜‰

vestal reef
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better to remove the candy then constantly have to tell them not to take the candy >> ๐Ÿ˜†

green inlet
#

We all pick our battles. Believe me, I get it

vestal reef
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Ill give arpspoof a go .. not getting an extra router just so I can block their devices .. ๐Ÿ˜

clever mortar
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I'm just taking the trust but verify approach - and being grumpy if they look like they're fibbing ๐Ÿ˜›

shy comet
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hmm wyze band just announced, mi band has a new competitor priced appropriately now

clear ferry
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wyze ๐Ÿคข

clever mortar
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And... built in to the band. That's not going to fail...

clear ferry
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that is a shitty design choice

clever mortar
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Yeah, before I had the FitBit I had no longer existing brand and theirs was an all in one, and the strap snapped after 9 months

clear ferry
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yep had one of those too

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xiaomi 4 lyfe

clever mortar
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I'm happy with my Fitbit, but at some point I'll be back in the market for a new one...

shy comet
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yea i got a mi band now

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the smart home stuff is nifty though

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would be nice if we can link that to HA but i doubt it

clear ferry
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it's gimicky

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I had voice assist on my lg watch, used it the first week

shy comet
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that price is tempting though

clear ferry
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then meh

shy comet
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same

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had the original lg g watch, then a moto 360

clear ferry
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even for handsfree it just wasn't usable

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when I bring 2x wireless headsets with me anywhere anyway

clever mortar
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I've got Google Assistant on my watch, never used it

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Mostly I wear the Pebble anyway ๐Ÿ˜„

shy comet
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yea i just wear mi band 3

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im spoiled by nearly 3 weeks of battery of life

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a color screen would be nice though

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wonder waht the comparison is from mi band 4 to the wyze band

green inlet
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For 25.00,maybe it will desolder Skalavala esp?

shy comet
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lol

forest edge
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only work with alexa ๐Ÿคข

shy comet
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i hate that

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admittedly i wouldnt use voice on a watch

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my phone and/or google homes will hear me anyways lol

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voice wont work if not connected to the phone

last plaza
#

They should sell esp8266 and everything else with and without pins.

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564 corona virus cases in just Ohio. ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

forest edge
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I don't get how it can be 25 bucks yet still do the other crap like the fitbits

last plaza
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Yup. I got lost in gear best looking for mi bands. There are SO many varieties. I gave up.

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Good with Apple Watch. Spent $750 on it. Might as well get my monies worth

shy comet
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lol

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idk if i can use a watch that requires to be charged on a near daily basis anymore

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mi band spoiled me

last plaza
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2nd generation Apple Watch. Total waste of money.

forest edge
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lol

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it's apple, did you expect anything less?

last plaza
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Iโ€™m not an Apple fanboy. It was a gift from wife and kids. Otherwise I wouldnโ€™t spend any money on it.

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I have to charge every day.

forest edge
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I see wyze got smart and didn't include an interface port on the band cause you know at 25 bucks someone would have hacked that sucker lol

last plaza
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Yup

clever mortar
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The daily charge is part of the reason why I don't use my WearOS watch much

last plaza
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Itโ€™s not bad if you have a routine. I charge my phone daily too

shy comet
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i need a feature comparison of wyze band vs mi band 4 ๐Ÿ˜‚

last plaza
#

How much is mi band 4?

shy comet
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same price

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about 25ish

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never seen it lower on gearbest

last plaza
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$31 on gearbest. Not bad at all.

shy comet
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should be lower by this point honestly

last plaza
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Do you guys sleep with the band on? I canโ€™t sleep with my Apple Watch. I have Melanese band and it would be very uncomfortable to sleep with it.

forest edge
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apple watch dosen't do sleep tracking does it?

shy comet
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i sleep with mi band

last plaza
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May be newer models. I have 2nd gen and doesnโ€™t do that for sure.

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i sleep with mi band
@shy comet ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

forest edge
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yea that be the only reason to wear these bands while sleeping is cause of the sleep tracking

clever mortar
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I sleep with my Fitbit on

shy comet
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yea i use sleep as android to track our sleep here

clever mortar
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Sleep tracking is quite helpful

shy comet
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helps to automate armed night and night mode

last plaza
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Armed night mode?

forest edge
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auto turrets engaged

last plaza
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I need to get up to speed on the bands. Clearly I am out of touch.

shy comet
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@last plaza yup, I use Tasker from my phone to trigger off all the events

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its pretty nifty

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you can tell when you hit snooze vs dismiss on teh alarm

last plaza
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Ah! Tasker doesnโ€™t work with Apple ๐Ÿ˜ฐ

clever mortar
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Time to upgrade ๐Ÿ˜›

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(sorry, not really, but I know folks what would argue that)

last plaza
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lol - seriously thinking about it. But not a big fan of android.

clever mortar
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I've been using both for long enough to know that "little" things like Tasker are a deal breaker

last plaza
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Makes sense.

clever mortar
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Then again, I've been using stock Android (or as near as I can get) all the time - and it works for me

shy comet
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yea i can never use apple due ot lack of tasker

clever mortar
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Some folks love specific brand's skins

last plaza
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Yes, you will always find folks who want 1000 themes and bands ๐Ÿ˜

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Iโ€™m good with default.

shy comet
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wow they released a scale too lol

forest edge
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wyze?

shy comet
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yea

forest edge
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lol

shy comet
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$20 not bad

forest edge
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lol heart rate through your feet

shy comet
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wow unlike the fitbit scale this one connects to your phone and sends the data

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fitbit will just send over wifi

forest edge
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I don't like how they force you to use thier app

last plaza
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Connect to your WiFi and give that as a gift to your neighbor lady ๐Ÿ˜‚

shy comet
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lol

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yea everyting portals over ot the app

last plaza
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That way you can track how much they are consuming ๐Ÿคฃ

shy comet
#

the real question, how long until they hack this stuff to work iwth HA

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wyze sense support showed up fairly quickly

forest edge
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it connects via bluetooth lol

last plaza
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It is just a matter of time. If one can be integrated, chances are others can be done easily too.

forest edge
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$20 bucks is a good deal since those that do that kind of stuff are usually closer to 50 bucks and abovve

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was looking at one the other day at CVS

last plaza
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Yes. Chinese equivalent of us$50 is $10

forest edge
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lol

shy comet
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lmao

forest edge
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oh the scale will soon be compatible with fitbit

shy comet
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i think ti all works with google fit

forest edge
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yea

shy comet
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theres a custom integration for that so we can pull that data into HA

forest edge
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yup

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too bad the band didn't list alternate compatible apps lol

shy comet
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still need to one day pick up the WS2812b led strip and power supply ot play with WLED

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@last plaza did you end up going with a WS2812b and a power supply too? trying to figure out what items i need to pick up lol

forest edge
shy comet
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man i got 413 simpson episodes to go in my rewatch of the show LOL

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just started season 9

forest edge
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lol longest running show evver

tidal bronze
clever mortar
tidal bronze
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8110?

clever mortar
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7110

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The one before the "matrix phone"

tidal bronze
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Yep.

clever mortar
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You could push the button and the slider would pop open

tidal bronze
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Had that as well. Good ol days.

forest edge
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Tinkerer betrayed Neo

clever mortar
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Well, duh, my reality, not his

cunning hawk
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I'm looking for a tutorial to setup my own domain with home assistant and lets encrypt ( currently i am using duckDNS addon and want to acquire my own domain ).

clever mortar
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Otherwise just follow the standard process but use your DNS provider

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The official docs have a few guides

clear ferry
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The Sony Ericsson t28 was better imo

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Two weeks battery life

clever mortar
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Yeah, but that user interface...

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I'm not sure they could have made it much worse.

clear ferry
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It was good enough for its time yes

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Current daily numbers

clever mortar
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Not a good time to be in Italy

clear ferry
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I was planning to invite family to Italy this year to celebrate my father's 70th

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I'll have to find something else

clever mortar
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Well, depends on the state of the world after this calms down

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Might actually be a good time to go ๐Ÿคท

clear ferry
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Was looking at a vineyard with 24 beds for $2000 for a week including clean out

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Nice company prices

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We had some apartments in Croatia for $20 per night that could sleep 4 people last fall

strange vapor
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@clear ferry Zoom Happy Hours seem all the rage at the moment

clear ferry
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Woot?

clever mortar
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Zoom, yeah... ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

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That'll be the one that tracks all your activities while running

shy comet
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LA numbers are starting to rise it seems

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4 new deaths to bring total to 11....one of which is under 18

last plaza
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@shy comet sorry - was on call with my team. I do not have ws2812b. I have the correct psu, but ran into issues with my ws2811 strip. I havenโ€™t fixed it yet.

shy comet
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ah ok, yea im returning the ws2811

last plaza
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I havenโ€™t had much luck with the individually addressable led strip yet.

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Wled seem to be fairly easy to flash.

orchid rose
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I just installed the wled to my sauna the other day and yeah it was pretty simple and integrated pretty well with HA. It left me with the white temperature slider for some reason though

clear ferry
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The us numbers are going to blow up unless the whole country goes on lockdown

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Saw Mississippi refused to follow lockdown

clever mortar
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Too many folks listen to the it's all fake news

orchid rose
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Depends on the definition of lockdown as well, but in Europe most nations had to do it eventually

clear ferry
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China virus ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

orchid rose
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Sweden being Sweden still hasn't locked down but everyone around them has so...

clear ferry
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They are planning the same as UK wanted to do

clever mortar
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Ignore it?

clear ferry
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Which they found out was a shitty idea

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Herd immunity

orchid rose
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I think we're still aiming for that one

clever mortar
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Well, to be fair, we didn't get quite that far before the PM had to change course because everybody yelled at him

shy comet
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@orchid rose did you go with WS2812b for WLED?

orchid rose
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SK6812

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but it should be the same process I imagine

shy comet
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oh ok, does that require a separate power supply?

orchid rose
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I powered from a 5V usb

shy comet
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was trying to find a strip i can power from esp8266 but doesnt seem like its possible

orchid rose
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depends on what you mean by "from esp8266". If you power the esp from a 5V source and connect the strip to the right pin it should be fine

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But there was a difference how this worked on nodemcu boards it turned out. I think it was atx who pointed me to a thread that mentioned which pin on my board gave the 5V output

shy comet
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well the esp8266 would be plugged in usb so itll get 5v

clear ferry
orchid rose
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Which esp board do you have? I think it was the lolin boards that were slightly different from the rest and the Vin pin won't give you the 5V

shy comet
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just trying to amazon what i need LOL

orchid rose
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The USB input will be connected to one pin on the board directly afaik. Usually Vin, but sometimes some other pin. Connect to the right pin and you won't have any issues

shy comet
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ooh ok so not directly to the onboard microusb port like i was trying lol

orchid rose
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you can but it's just easier to use one of the output pins for that ๐Ÿ™‚

shy comet
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yea i was hoping to keep thigns like plug n play ๐Ÿ˜› when it comes to these things im usually lost without a guide lol

orchid rose
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oh I'm far from an expert as well but just knowing the basics is usually enough to understand what should go where. Like that kids' game where you put pieces through holes

last plaza
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@shy comet the esp8266 vcc is only 3.3v and not 5v. I think.

orchid rose
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esp itself will use 3.3V but there's an output pin that connects directly to the input voltage

last plaza
shy comet
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to go alnog with the esp8266 and led strip

last plaza
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I see only 3.3v

orchid rose
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skalavala, VIN or or some other pin will share the USB input

last plaza
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Yep. Thatโ€™s the PSU I have.

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@orchid rose ok.

shy comet
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how many LEDs can we power with that psu?

orchid rose
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dshokouhi, you just need to find out how much amperage you'll need for the length of your strip. A regular usb charger may be enough to power everything

shy comet
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i was probably gonna start with the 16 ft one i think

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i wanted to mess around with it before i get longer strips

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so if i were to power it from the VIN what would i need to get to do that? im kinda confused on that too lol

orchid rose
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Yeah then you'll need a proper power supply ๐Ÿ™‚ There was a video about the strips and their requirements on YouTube. I'll find it for you. Just add like 50% to that and you should be fine

last plaza
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@shy comet upto 30amps -lower brightness you can have more leds.

orchid rose
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So around 13W/150leds (2.6A/150leds @ 5V) for WS2812 at max brightness

shy comet
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yea so i def need that power supply then ok

orchid rose
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depends on the leds/m

shy comet
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so do i power the esp8266 from that or do i just keep the esp plugged in usb?

orchid rose
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Power everything from the same power supply. ESP consumption will be negligible compared to the strip.

shy comet
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what type of wiring do i need to power the ESP from the supply?

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i feel like a noob here lol

orchid rose
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this belongs more in #diy-archived but I doubt it matters much. It's not a whole lot of power, but I'm sure someone knows the actual numbers too

dull chasm
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@last plaza @shy comet vin pin on esp8266 can be up to 20 v dc ...i have most of mine powered from 12v ....i like 12 volt strips as voltage drop is not as big of a issue

last plaza
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Thatโ€™s what she said!

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I mean thatโ€™s what he (@orchid rose) said!

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Someone should package the two together.

shy comet
last plaza
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That $9 is waste. Just use old usb and solder the wires. You will save a lot of money.

last dirge
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that's not a waste

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that's a FTDI cable

last plaza
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@shy comet What you do is use regular 5v micro usb and connect directly to esp8266. Them use the vcc pin to supply power to led strip

last dirge
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yep

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well, depending on how much current you need

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@last plaza did you get your WLED board going or nah?

last plaza
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Nah! Not yet. Didnโ€™t use the step down converter yet.

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This wfh is killing me. More number of calls than before.

clever mortar
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Yeah, I've got more calls than before, but that's mostly about making sure the team is doing ok

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some folks are handling this "not so well"

subtle crypt
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Tinkerer, what do you do for a living? you're ALWAYS here helping people....

clever mortar
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Not always - it just seems that way ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Mostly I mess with people's sense of reality

subtle crypt
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VR technician?

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๐Ÿ˜‰

clever mortar
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Also, right now, WFH

subtle crypt
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most of society is wfh...

clever mortar
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Yup, and I'm using this place as a way of helping balance out my sanity, or whatever is left of it

subtle crypt
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hell of a way to do it ๐Ÿ˜›

clever mortar
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It's nice sometimes to have easier problems to solve

subtle crypt
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the title of that subreddit sums it up perfectly.

clear ferry
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Sanity?

clever mortar
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It's all relative

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I'm more stable than a weeble-wobble in a tornado, which is fine

clear ferry
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Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

last plaza
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Looks nice!

rain swift
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yeah and cheap lol

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I like more than one magnification

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my eyes suck, I know i'm going to need some

last plaza
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I donโ€™t mind buying one of those.

rain swift
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yeah I'm going for it

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do you find it easier to hold the soldering iron with your primary hand, or use that one to hold the solder?

last plaza
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Do it.

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Let me know - I can buy too ๐Ÿ˜Š

rain swift
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my stuff should all be coming today, minus that magnificationt hing I just ordered

last plaza
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Cool

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I like your shopping list. I should make one too.

rain swift
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amazon went to crap, everything that says prime now says april 22

last plaza
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We should have a #shopping-list channel.

rain swift
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yeah haha

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like sharing yaml files

last plaza
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Yup. Amazon is not delivering anytime before April 22 for us too.

rain swift
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see what cool things other people are getting

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I have no power on discord so someone else has to do that.

last plaza
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@tidal bronze is the man for it.

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I donโ€™t think we can do it in here. But we can have a web site for our stuff.

forest edge
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We should have a #shopping-list channel.
@last plaza what @clear ferry would add to it would be inappropriate for this discord server. lol

last plaza
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True!

clever mortar
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There's a #social section on the forum, maybe it'd fit there ๐Ÿคท

rain swift
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maybeh

last plaza
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More of a hobbyist tools - it can be anything fun and interesting- like survival must haves, electronics must haves ...etc

tidal bronze
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I will need a fire retardant suit before posting my list.

last plaza
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lol

rain swift
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Let's see it.

tidal bronze
last plaza
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Cool.

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I am seriously thinking of creating a list!

tidal bronze
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I thought you had a complete list

dull chasm
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i honestly think we could have a place here for that ............a ton of us are diy and looking for parts

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would need to be managed of course

clever mortar
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#hardware-suggestions

dull chasm
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yea ^^^

rain swift
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I made lists to organize stuff I was looking at, its also helpful when you are crazy hard to buy for, to make a list and give it to people lol

dull chasm
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votes to move to top of list or bottom

rain swift
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no preference

tidal bronze
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Must be very clear that no one item is better than the other. Or else will end up in a shitshow pretty quick

dull chasm
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maybe a google docs that is linked and users can some how thru a vote to bot to incrrease or decrease popalirity

tidal bronze
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Not a voting system but user count per device would be better so people can decide.

dull chasm
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yea that sounds good ...

rain swift
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is that a function of discord

dull chasm
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sk can make it happen .... @rain swift so shh

last plaza
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The list doesnโ€™t have to be just hardware - I like stuff like survival gear, upvoting and downvoting- hmmm. Reddit?

tidal bronze
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Yep

dull chasm
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@last plaza so AR15's too

last plaza
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That will be part of zombie apocalypse section

rain swift
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I am starting to like this plan more and more.

tidal bronze
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@last plaza I like the voting system but best would be to mark what you use.

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Reddit votes most are fanboys.

rain swift
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I mean people can leave reviews on reddit anyways

last plaza
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Yup. We should be able to@provide information like pros, cons and additional details for each item - like firmware update links, examples...etc

tidal bronze
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I don't get on voting on shit that one would like to have

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@last plaza can you do your magic with the bot for this?

last plaza
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Sure! We can make the Bot do wonders.

tidal bronze
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Right on

rain swift
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skynet

dull chasm
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awesome @tidal bronze @last plaza i have already posted in mods ...so it is The Way

last plaza
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lol - we just need to figure out a way to organize if the lists grow - need to think about categories, maintaining items...etc

tidal bronze
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Example recommendations for irrigation controller gives top 5 with user count next to it.

dull chasm
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we dont ....we nominated you

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good example qaud

last plaza
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how about we do it outside discord? Discord has limitations in terms of content lengths...etc - thinking out loud

dull chasm
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i am like murdock I Love it when a plan comes togther

rain swift
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someone make sure to send me an invite lol

tidal bronze
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whatever you think is best

last plaza
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ok... on it!

tidal bronze
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Come to think of it... once completed and data populated, will be the LIST OF LISTS ๐Ÿ™‚

last plaza
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yup - that's the idea!

tidal bronze
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My only request is not be price biased or brand biased, just vanilla usage stats

last plaza
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like must-have's, and/or best of the best that experts prefer to have in their tool belt

tidal bronze
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yep.

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Price point should be decided by the viewer

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Many questions start with best end with cheapest which rarely goes together ๐Ÿ™‚

last plaza
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true!

rain swift
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depends, like how you can put something together with a nodemcu and have it be much cheaper than a zwave device that cost 3-4 times as much, but one requires a little more work, the other doesn't.

tidal bronze
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@last plaza if you can also work something into like retail alternatives @ price point for DIY things like motion sensors. Thinking about xiaomi /zigbee stuff. Don't need to send new users chasing stuff when we have passed that era ๐Ÿ˜‰

last plaza
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yup

forest edge
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welp trump wants us piling into a church together on Easter. nice knowing ya world

last plaza
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already easing on social distancing!

shy comet
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yea he wants to open up shop way too quickly

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cares more about the stock market than the people it seems

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it sounds like he want to open up parts of the country but keep places like cali, ny and washington on lock down

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not a smart idea if people are still spreading it because they literally dont care

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i have a handful of friends who were potentially exposed because the person didnt want to self isolate and kept going to work and doing their thing

strange vapor
last plaza
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the next 2 to 4 weeks would be crucial to keep the numbers down - mission is not accomplished yet!

tidal bronze
shy comet
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wow lol

forest edge
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wtf quad you hoarder lol