the-water-cooler

[hushed basalt]

And pow, done

[clear ferry]

Found a picture of @clever mortar online

[velvet horizon]

Tinkerer is away for 10h 43m 18s with a message :point_right: The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.

[forest edge]

lol

[hushed basalt]

Looks like my daughter is allergic to wheat now too

Yayyy

[forest edge]

now? what else she allergic to?

most kids grow out of that

obiously some things stay and it usually returns later in life but many will stop showing symptoms around thier peak years

[clear ferry]

They did an interesting study in Sweden about gluten intolerant children, 8/10 or something cases where parents had stopped feeding the children gluten because they suspected allergy it was no allergy at all, think it was a study of a few hundred too, so pretty relevant,

[hushed basalt]

Milk and eggs, and cats

Allergies are caused by faulty skin barriers

Plus a lot of complex gut science

But eczma is the big one

[forest edge]

i thought 107 had alot more ui changes

[midnight adder]

Why are Dutch people that dumb lol

You should keep 1.5m distance to one anotger

[hushed basalt]

There's two types of people I can't stand

[midnight adder]

People here go to the beaches and walk around in the forest

[hushed basalt]

People intolerant of other cultures, and the Dutch.

[midnight adder]

Look at this shit

I mean I get why you don't like Dutch people, but I'm Dutch and don't want to be associated by them

[midnight adder]

so the dutch government just sent out an alert to EVERY phone to keep your distance and stay home as much as possible

that this is necessary worries me.,..

[timid garnet]

@midnight adder They told us the same, then we had earthquake this morning and they said to exit our buildings. So we were all out for few hours trying to get away from crumbling buildings and also keeping away from each-other.

[midnight adder]

well thats a fair point and another situation

people here are just mega ignorant

[light trout]

situation is the same, but are "public safety"

[midnight adder]

until one of their parents die and they blame the government

okay yeah true

[grave jolt]

@midnight adder They told us the same, then we had earthquake this morning and they said to exit our buildings. So we were all out for few hours trying to get away from crumbling buildings and also keeping away from each-other.
@timid garnet Where are you at?

[timid garnet]

Zagreb, Croatia

[hushed basalt]

My wifes friend is from that area

[clear ferry]

I know a guy from Zagreb too

[midnight adder]

so the dutch government just sent out an alert to EVERY phone to keep your distance and stay home as much as possible

Now the police is standing near the coast to send people back that are coming to the beaches

[midnight adder]

Is that pencil to write down the label?

[timid garnet]

I'm self-isolating and rewinding some tapes... 😩

[dull chasm]

that is wrong ....that is basically saying your old 🤣

[light trout]

Guess it's time t isolate then :/

[dull chasm]

Yea but they are everywhere here .....

[midnight adder]

blue = cases, red = deaths, yellow/green?(sorry color blind)

[dull chasm]

yello is case increase per day

[midnight adder]

ah oke

this is cases per day in the netherlands

same country 😛

[dull chasm]

thats a country ...this is one state

[midnight adder]

yeah i know, i hope the hospitals in the us can handle

idk how the interaction is between states when one hospital is full can you transport to another state?

[light trout]

You guys deepfry everything, did you try that with the virus?

[midnight adder]

didnt deepfry my grandma yet

can try

[dull chasm]

yes but i am sure they dont want to ...wil find out if that happens .....just hope the attutude dosent get like the black plaque ....

[midnight adder]

@dull chasm i help you hoping, i hope people will realize finally what is happening

cause when one of your family members die, you are likely too late and italy scenario will follow

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-they-call-it-the-apocalypse-inside-italys-hardest-hit-hospital-11960597

😦

[dull chasm]

i feel so bad for italy .... 🙏 they say if we dont do anything we will follow suit

[midnight adder]

yes definitely

the netherlands are actually exactly following it...

atleast i can work on my home assistant setup and try to forget about the problems in the outside world

[dull chasm]

i havent worked on mine in a bit ....got a few things i need to clean up but not too bad..... my main i go do is get hasska working with aws on my docker install

[midnight adder]

whats aws?

[dull chasm]

amazon

[midnight adder]

im doubting between google and amazon

but you need SSH setup for that if i recall correctly right ?

[dull chasm]

yea i got ssl for my venv install but not my docker install .... I might be able to use something like ngix or whatever to only need one cert but i have no idea how to do and have not read up on it yet

[midnight adder]

ah okay, well good luck with that 🙂

[dull chasm]

yea thanks ....i have no clue how the proxy's work so i will be reading and ask tink and ludeeus some stupid question prolly when i do ...will not be the first time i have made them shake their head at me

[midnight adder]

i mean everybody has to start somewhere...

[dull chasm]

🤦‍♂️ or that

[midnight adder]

im still 10 steps behind you lol

[dull chasm]

i doubt it ...i just been around forever

[midnight adder]

i started since 3 weeks

[hushed basalt]

Laptop mounts seem to have gotten a lot more expensive

I wonder what could have caused that :D

[midnight adder]

you can have 1 guess

[hushed basalt]

The Dutch!

[midnight adder]

yesssss

they deepfry laptop mounts for a living

[clear ferry]

@dull chasm letsencrypt container worked nice for me, even with multiple domains and even more subdomains

Laptop mounts?

Docking.?

[dull chasm]

but does a self signed work with aws

[clear ferry]

Does the instance run in aws?

[dull chasm]

no but i wil be using hasska to integrate alexa

[clear ferry]

From what I can see I don't see why it shouldn't work

[dull chasm]

awesome when i get ready i will hit ya up

[hushed basalt]

I want something to put my laptop vertically on the desk

Closed

I'm sick of it sitting on the desk taking up space and risk getting things spilt on it etc

I have a surface dock

Magnets yo

[midnight adder]

im waiting to get a new laptop

the lenovo t14s with amd 4700u processor looks sick in performance and battery life

after that ill find a dock for it haha

[hushed basalt]

They usb-c right?

[midnight adder]

yes

id love a setup with thunderbolt 3 dock

hi guys, how are you?

looking for new hardware for my homeassistant setup

currently running on cheap mini-pc (N4100 celeron)

but I would like to have a sort of small home-server with proxmox not too much power hungry

ideas?

[last plaza]

@midnight adder home server with not too much power hungry? Get a NUC or something?

Lots of folks use Skull Canyon.

[midnight adder]

mmm I was considering as well a NUC but I find it a little too much limited, specially storage wise

lol

[last plaza]

HA doesn’t need a lot of storage

[midnight adder]

put in a 2tb m2

yes but I would like to use not only for HA

[dull chasm]

running 750 gigs on mine how is that small or above ^^^^

[midnight adder]

currently i am 64gb SSD on my mini-pc (HA only)

isn't out there any ryzen based mini PC? 4000U series are still not sold?

will take a while before 4000 will ship to mini pc's

expect half a year from now roughly

[hearty depot]

My ha vm 25 gig

[hearty depot]

Sweet thing

[midnight adder]

should be enough for your use case 😛

when i move out im swapping to a skull canyon as well, for now my pi4 is enough

[dull chasm]

damn makes my I7 with 8 cores and 1tb look bad

[midnight adder]

maybe I could consider a bespoke on? like the one from quietpc?

[strange vapor]

Fixing up the previous box I had as my Firewall. New brand name mSATA SSD. The previous chinese special SSD went pop 😦

[midnight adder]

@midnight adder i really dont know what you are talkinbg about

www.quietpc.com

yes and then what lol

bespoke on doesn't lead to anything 😛

[last plaza]

It looks like you are looking for a server then. Nothing to do with HA requirements or specs.

You can run HA on anything these days.

[midnight adder]

As a dutch i should try running it on my fryer @last plaza

ahahah I love dutch french fries

dutch or french fries?

we have 'thick grandma fries' as dutch fries(thick and not that crispy), or the 'french fries' as the thin crispy fries 😛

dutch!

ohhh

i just like the croquets

dont like fries as much anymore

i lived 6 months in Brussels and had a lot of them 🙂

missing them

its unhealthy

not just the fat but also the salt in it :/

[scenic radish]

grandma fries huh?

[midnight adder]

yessss

[dusky plank]

who can get me a image of the overly exaggerated smile in tears emoji?

yes @clear ferry you're needed!

[clear ferry]

@midnight adder I do a triple screen setup with a G2 thunderbolt dock and a zbook G3, waiting for the audio module for the dock

[forest edge]

HP 🤢

[clear ferry]

@dusky plank

[dusky plank]

the middle one, but there's a version which is even more crazy 😄

[forest edge]

that would be tediores fav

[midnight adder]

nice one @clear ferry

im currently just using my gaming pc for everything at home

[forest edge]

just scroll up, he posts it literally evvery day lol

[midnight adder]

as my laptop is too slow for me right now lol

[dusky plank]

a damn 😄 how can I search for that?

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

its theblurry vversion of that one

[clear ferry]

@midnight adder I have Quad-Core 2.8ghz and 48gb on it

[midnight adder]

pc or your zbook

[clear ferry]

Zbook

[midnight adder]

48 gb damn

how many longs did you sell?

[clear ferry]

Supports 64gb

[forest edge]

runs win 98

[clear ferry]

Longs?

[midnight adder]

lungs

[clear ferry]

Lol, just told my boss I needed it

[midnight adder]

and kidneys

fair enough

[clear ferry]

$2500 or something

[midnight adder]

im still broke as a student

yet i can get 20% off

[clear ferry]

Mostly use my Chromebook $200 though

[last plaza]

Amazon Prime now takes a month to deliver non-essentials 🤢

Ordered a few, est delivery date is Apr 21

[forest edge]

I was about to order some shelly's too lol

[last plaza]

u gonna have to waut

[scenic radish]

@dusky plank

[last plaza]

they are hiring 100K employees for distribution

[scenic radish]

[forest edge]

nuff of that

[last plaza]

@scenic radish repeating the same crappy emoticons is not a fair game

best it can be annoying and childish

[scenic radish]

mstone wanted to see it

[last plaza]

you can DM him if he wants it

[forest edge]

it best fits how he feels after knowing he's paying HOA dues for a box with 4 walls

[scenic radish]

Also...atx repeats his all the time... But got it

[last plaza]

geez

[forest edge]

so amazon gonna hire all this additional help just to can those people in a month or two lol

[clear ferry]

I should ship my package to @scenic radish

[velvet horizon]

Tediore is away for 3m 36s with a message :point_right: 👋

[last plaza]

many folks are out of job - it is going to help those who still want to get paid

[clear ferry]

See if it takes four months

[forest edge]

@clear ferry any "package" from you would surely not make it past customs lol

[clear ferry]

@forest edge won't be any customs to get past if the customs people are laid off

[forest edge]

pssh they will just hire younger and younger people and then your package would go from having 4 corners to circular in shape

[clear ferry]

[dusky plank]

thx!!!

[midnight adder]

what internet speed do i lose over 2 internet switches?

[clear ferry]

@midnight adder none? If they are decent switches

[midnight adder]

ohhh

[clear ferry]

You might incur latency though, but miniscule

[midnight adder]

i get 150 mbps after 2 switches where 250 mbps comes into my house

[clear ferry]

@dusky plank now thank @scenic radish and scold @last plaza

[velvet horizon]

Tediore is away for 17m 56s with a message :point_right: 👋

[clear ferry]

And both switches are gigabit switches, with non blocking interfaces ? @midnight adder and what happens if you connect to the previous switch, or the line directly within 5 minutes?

[midnight adder]

yes

get me 1sec

what could interfere it

[clear ferry]

Shitty switches probably, which is why I would like to know where the speed drops

[midnight adder]

hmmm might be the switch in the fusebox

[forest edge]

you need to test that you actually get 250mbps at the source before anything

just cause a provvider tells you that dosen't make it so lol

[clear ferry]

These are my core switches, so I'm picky

https://www.hpe.com/uk/en/product-catalog/networking/networking-switches/pip.hpe-flexfabric-5900af-48g-4xg-2qsfpplus-switch.5354511.html

[midnight adder]

im living with my parents...

cant afford that for now

[clear ferry]

I recommend not doing that

[midnight adder]

whyyy

[forest edge]

apparently bread is the new TP this week in that everyone is buying it like it's gold

[midnight adder]

imma do a test later today

[clear ferry]

I moved out when I was 16, recommend it

[midnight adder]

now have to eat! Thanks ffor thinking with me

[clear ferry]

Noice, Corona virus has entered us prisons😩

[forest edge]

I wonder how many spring breakers who decided to ignore and dismiss the social distancing ended up going home and causing complications for thier family members

I couldn't even imagine if I was responsible for the death of my parents or something like that family in NJ who lost 4 family members

[clear ferry]

I find it interesting that the media outlet said they had no previous conditions, while it was pretty obvious the whole family was quite obese

Which again incurs certain conditions normally

[forest edge]

I dunno but was stupid they weren't going to let a virus outbreak stop their sunday dinner

[clear ferry]

Tuuk or jorbs

[dull chasm]

you gotta eat

[tidal bronze]

@clear ferry didn't know Alan walker lived in Bergen, new respect for brown cheese 😜

[clear ferry]

Alan walker🤢

[tidal bronze]

I think the only thing makes Norway Norway important, to me at least

[dull chasm]

i have a unlimited amount of brown cheese if anybody is buying

$650 for 4"

[light trout]

Bergen 🤢

[clear ferry]

Bergen 🤢

[forest edge]

tell us how you really feel about Bergen

[clear ferry]

🤢

[dull chasm]

wth is bergen

[light trout]

If it rains around you, you are probably in Bergen

[dull chasm]

oh it is a place

[clever mortar]

That sounds like Oban Scotland

[dull chasm]

yall like to make it confusing for us folks

[forest edge]

you guys should do those pretend war things kind of like how we do the north vs south reenactments here. you can dress up and pretend to kill each other to let out your frustrations for your neighboring towns/countries lol

[dull chasm]

but then the brits would be destoried like before and it would not be fair

[clear ferry]

@forest edge you will get proper non-reenactment soon enough I reckon

[clever mortar]

You mean, we'd sell guns and drugs to both sides and profit @dull chasm

[dull chasm]

well if history repeats itself and it always does ...... britian will try to dominate and the rest of europe will be nuetral and we will win

[tidal bronze]

Need help planting these. 🙄 Don't want to go looking for muscle relaxers in the evening 😂

[dull chasm]

southern cali ......... 🤔 mexicans?

[forest edge]

they look planted to me lol

[tidal bronze]

Somewhat lol.

[forest edge]

isn't that how cali people do their plants? in pots on rocks lol

[tidal bronze]

I have no idea why they are $300 each.

[dull chasm]

damn who ever sold you that laughed ....to the bank

[tidal bronze]

Didn't pay friend owns the shop the larger one is like $580 each.

[dull chasm]

well me and cali must be on two diff levels 🤣

[tidal bronze]

btw it's not uncommon for some people to drop 8k to 10k for fully grown trees here. Somewhat crazy

[unkempt night]

Hey does anyone know if Homekit secure vid will reduce battery life on cameras?

[forest edge]

is that installed or just for a baby tree?

[dull chasm]

@tidal bronze we got people here that are lucky to have a home worth that much

[tidal bronze]

Baby is like $90 this is medium-large

[orchid rose]

We've got plenty of trees here in Finland to sell. You can get one for a cheap price of only 4k! Limited time only.

[forest edge]

I can see a few k for a fully grown tree to be replanted etc.

hell I sell dead oak here that is laying on the ground for 3-5k all the time

[tidal bronze]

How it looks like as it gets older

[last plaza]

you guys dont use mulch?

[forest edge]

so a coconut that grows from the ground up..

[tidal bronze]

@last plaza we have to.

[last plaza]

ok... ground looks a bit dry... digging would be pain

[forest edge]

what benefits does that thing give you? or is it just purely for the weirdness?

[last plaza]

they are equivalent to evergreens we get here

[tidal bronze]

Been raining past week more rain tonight. And that's how it looks. Lol @last plaza looks only @forest edge too short for shade

[forest edge]

did you ask about what type of insects it may attract? lol

[tidal bronze]

None

[unkempt night]

Is this Discord a good place to ask questions about UK related smarthome stuff@

[tidal bronze]

Only dogs love them @forest edge

[forest edge]

uh oh.. dog urine is natures killer lol

[clever mortar]

Only if it's related to HA @unkempt night 😉

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge unfortunately yes. But that you have to live with. 😀

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze how long till it matures and reaches it's max height? and how high is that?

[tidal bronze]

Under 6ft. Just gets wider

[orchid rose]

So a bit like @clear ferry

gottem

[forest edge]

wider? and it's that close to the sidewalk? lol

[tidal bronze]

That's max width of the trunk

[dull chasm]

please i dont like to bragg about the width of my trunk

[tidal bronze]

Lol

[forest edge]

gonna look funny with xmas lights on it i'm sure lol

if the top remained like that, i would build that thing a ball cap or something

[dull chasm]

no doubt ....gotta make sure no stray voltage

[tidal bronze]

They are not xlight friendly 😂

[forest edge]

wtf we were like 19k cases last night and 27k now

[tidal bronze]

Plus NY prison

[clear ferry]

@orchid rose hey, I'm 6'1" like a proper Scandinavian, not 5'3" like the muuricans in here

@forest edge I expect murica to be broken in less than 14 days

[dull chasm]

@clear ferry hey i am 6' 200 ilbs with a 40" chest

and i am muurican

go figure ...usa rednecks for the win

[last plaza]

missing any other dimensions? 😛

[dull chasm]

size 12 shoe?

[last plaza]

only in #the-water-cooler things can get blown out easily 😉

[dull chasm]

blah blah

[clear ferry]

200lbs, those are rookie numbers, gotta up those numbers for Corona

[dull chasm]

nah no fat

[clear ferry]

@dull chasm biggest murican in the swamps I see

Redneck-foot

Spotted on camera

[midnight adder]

small ppl out here

[clear ferry]

https://media.tenor.com/images/46b8aa3319ea36727ca0b0dc702cbcbd/tenor.gif

[midnight adder]

im 6'3

[tidal bronze]

small ppl out here
@midnight adder it's all about perspective

[midnight adder]

yes my height is larger

😛

[clear ferry]

[midnight adder]

imma test the internet soon @clear ferry

can a damaged internet cable cause a speed drop

or doesnt it work at all when 1 out of 8 cables in the utp cable break

[clear ferry]

1000BaseT uses all four pairs, 1000BaseTX only uses two

So it depends

[midnight adder]

ooof this is beyond my knowledge im taking a shower and ill have a look

ill use that as a starting point thansk 🙂

[clear ferry]

I've worked with networks for 20+ years, I've seen most of it

[clever mortar]

Or caused it

[clear ferry]

Quiet you

https://media.tenor.com/images/f63dc1a0f7119e2446d85191df2f1b91/tenor.gif

LC / SC connectors are logical in Norwegian as Liten = small and Stor = large, but it's reverse in English

Fun fact of the day

[forest edge]

@forest edge I expect murica to be broken in less than 14 days
@clear ferry you better hope not. without us countries like your looks like a chicken nugget for russia! 😋

[clear ferry]

[midnight adder]

lol @clever mortar @clear ferry 😛

[clever mortar]

Any tech of any experience will have caused a slew of problems, because that's the nature of pushing the boundaries of your skill/knowledge

The measure however is whether they've repeated the mistakes or not 😉

(and if so, did they manage to pin the blame on another)

[midnight adder]

okay this is my situation

dont mind my quality paint skills

[clever mortar]

Make sure the modem is really a modem

Or, put it into bridge mode

[midnight adder]

it is a modem router as provided by the internet supplier

[clever mortar]

Put it in bridge mode

[midnight adder]

but it is in a metal box, (fuse box?)

okayy

you think that that might cause problems?

[clever mortar]

If you don't, you're in a double NAT world

You also need to port forward twice

[midnight adder]

what do you mean with that

[clever mortar]

If it's a modem/router and you also have a router, you have two networks

That's "ok", but any time you want to set up remote access it makes life painful

[midnight adder]

the speed of the router is what it should be

cause we pay for roughly 250 mbps

and 25 mbps

yet my pc gives: 150 Mbps and 25 mbps

thus from router over the 2 switches i lose 100 mbps

[last plaza]

Maybe your router has coronavirus.

[midnight adder]

fry my router?

[clever mortar]

Likely you've got wiring/interference issues

[tidal bronze]

@midnight adder what's the speed at SW1?

[forest edge]

maybe you didn't test your actual speed directly from the modem and your really only getting 150/25mbps

[midnight adder]

sw1 is ?

[last plaza]

Switch 1

[midnight adder]

@forest edge no my router says it produces 237 mbps

[clever mortar]

I'd also suggest if you can wire from the router to SW2 you do

[midnight adder]

uhm i can walk down with my laptop and try at all points

[last plaza]

Make sure all the devices are gigabit Ethernet and not the old junk switches

[midnight adder]

would that give more information, yes right ?

no they are all gigabit

[forest edge]

if you test from each point you would narrow down exactly where the issue starts

[tidal bronze]

That's best @midnight adder Do tests at router, sw1 and sw2

[midnight adder]

also modem?

[tidal bronze]

not really, if you get 250/25 at router test that point onwards

[midnight adder]

okay ill be back in 5min i guess

[clever mortar]

Well, if you don't get the expected speed at the router, test at the modem 😉

[tidal bronze]

While you are at it check the port speed from SW1 to SW2 as @last plaza mentioned.

[forest edge]

Mr Goodcents is selling their bread, meats and cheeses separately for those who want to take home and make their own rather than going out. the bread like 75 cents for a foot long which is a decent deal

[midnight adder]

okayy im back

found the problem i guess

whereas when i stick the utp cable that is going into the router into my laptop gives 247 as well

when i stick a cable coming from the router into my laptop i get 156

the problem is thus caused by the router

[clever mortar]

Burn the router

Or, at least, check the settings

[midnight adder]

its a nighthawk

so should be fine 😦

[tidal bronze]

Did you enable qos?

[midnight adder]

but yeah its settings

yes

might that cause the drop?

[tidal bronze]

It's not a problem. That's what qos is supposed to do.

Disable and test

[midnight adder]

I'm disabling

Router will restart thus have to wait for that haha

I thought it was a good thing the qos

[clever mortar]

It can be

But your hardware needs enough power to handle it at your bandwidth

[midnight adder]

hmmm interesting

seeeeems t obe solved yes lol

203 mbps

[tidal bronze]

At that speed I don't think qos does any good for you unless you have 25 people at home. Also check to see max effectiveness of qos on nighthawk. I would recommend keeping it off.

[midnight adder]

ill keep it off then

yet there is still a drop of 40 mbps

or shouldnt i worry about it

[tidal bronze]

Do few random tests.

Wouldn't worry too much about it

[midnight adder]

is it affected by the amount of devices?

as the whole family is draining the internet

nevertheless thanks for this help! @clever mortar @tidal bronze @forest edge@clear ferry

[orchid rose]

the Nighthawk QoS is pretty decent in my experience at lower speeds at least, but check that you have it set to your actual connection speeds

I bought my 100Mbps connection just a while back and took me a while to figure out the router qos was still set to 10Mbps...

[midnight adder]

reaching 220 now hmm

ohhh

well i dont really need it to be on

to be honest

[clear ferry]

Unsymmetrical lines are shite for performance anyway

[midnight adder]

what do you mean?

[clear ferry]

Any kind of traffic that requires acknowledgement of transfer will eat of the upstream speed, and when that is 10% of the downstream speed

Shite will ensue at some point

[tidal bronze]

@midnight adder unless you are running new data models for CRISPR from home don't worry too much. Looks like you are good to go 😄

[midnight adder]

fair enough

thanks for the info 🙂

learning everyday

[clear ferry]

Wouldn't be hard to saturate that connection tbh

[midnight adder]

what is saturating a connection

lol i feel dumb

[clever mortar]

Filling it up

Like saturating a sponge with water means it can't hold any more

[midnight adder]

okay yeah clear

so its is easily occupied with devices on the connection

[woeful rose]

Afternoon all, Does any Wifi power strip work with HA?

[midnight adder]

what brand do you have?

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/

if you can find it in here you are good

[clever mortar]

#integrations-archived or #hardware-archived are the places to ask @woeful rose 😉

Also @midnight adder if you wrap the link in < ... > it won't expand and fill the view ;)
<https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/> becomes https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/

[woeful rose]

Thanks guys!

[midnight adder]

thanks didnt know about that

only about the paste code thing

with the '

the other one

i cant make with my keyboard lol

[clever mortar]

Yeah, most channels don't expand links, but some do since it's linked to image posting

[midnight adder]

test

nvm i can

@clever mortar why does http://homeassistant.local:8123/ not work for me

but ip does?

[clever mortar]

mDNS

Best to ask in #330944238910963714 😉

[midnight adder]

okay 🙂

[clear ferry]

mDNS🤢

[clever mortar]

it's always DNS

[clear ferry]

It's definitely always mDNS

But nobody knows

Because it never answered

[frosty wyvern]

for extra fun, pass mDNS traffic between subnets/networks

[midnight adder]

it sounds kinda complicated haha

[clever mortar]

No more complicated than quantum physics

[frosty wyvern]

@midnight adder what OS are you running the browser on?

[midnight adder]

chrome

oh windows

10

[frosty wyvern]

does W10 support mDNS natively, or do you have to install it (bonjour, etc?)

[midnight adder]

@clever mortar fun fact i do get quantum physics for the biggest part

[clever mortar]

Win10 does mDNS

[midnight adder]

those new lenovo laptops look slick

unfortunately the amd version doesnt have tb3 connection :(((((

[clever mortar]

The Yoga range are awesome

[midnight adder]

i knjow

but im looking for the t14s

possibly with amd and tb3

[clever mortar]

Thinkpads are fine too

[midnight adder]

my 720p needs a replacementr

but the amd processors are yet to come out

cant wait haha

[clear ferry]

AMD🤢

[clever mortar]

You like that emoji too much

Keep using it and Skalavala will get cross with you 😛

[midnight adder]

no the performance of the low power chips are too good

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-7-PRO-4750U-processor-spotted-on-3DMark-could-soon-turn-up-in-new-Lenovo-ThinkPad-laptops.455408.0.html

[delicate pollen]

Hi Everyone, anyone any suggestions on a monitoring add-on which integrates with HA. I did like to monitor CPU, MEM, DISK USAGE and make a few simple lovelace dashboard and alerts if issues as I'm having 4-5 VMs on Proxmox ? Any suggestions 🤓

[clever mortar]

I'd ask in #integrations-archived

[unkempt night]

Hey does anyone know if the Yi home cameras no longer include the free cloud 6 second clips?

[clever mortar]

#cameras-archived might 🤷‍♂️

[last plaza]

@tidal bronze question for you. I want to make a wooden box for the led clock I made and I want to have a female micro usb connector attached to the box. That way I can just insert regular micro usb from outside without opening the box for connection. Question is what’s the best place to get them?

That was quite soldering work there. Had to remove al existing pins on both sides from the esp8266 and soldered directly to the board.

[clear ferry]

Mmmmm glue goop

[last plaza]

Yup. Had to put hot glue after soldering. I don’t want it to move around 😊

Less strain on the wires. Those wires are very flakey.

[clear ferry]

I should do that more often, I put too much trust in my solder joints

[last plaza]

Looks like @tidal bronze is busy digging holes for the plants 🤣

[clear ferry]

Or on lockdown with no habeas corpus

[last plaza]

The soldering gun is fun! Heats super fast and tip is just perfect even for meticulous jobs.

[clear ferry]

I still miss the smd station I worked on in 2001

[clear ferry]

That's too clean

You aren't serious enough

[last plaza]

Make a new one and show us how to do it. I will do it with you.

[clear ferry]

I'm a messy bastard

[last plaza]

Holy macaroni!!! That’s crazy.

[clear ferry]

Why thank you

I take pride in loss of sanity points

[hearty depot]

Lol - we have the same cind of soul @clear ferry

[clever mortar]

My home office suddenly seems tidy

[clear ferry]

All hail cthuluh

If you think that is messy, you should see my file shares

[tidal bronze]

@last plaza just finished planting a dwarf apple tree lol. You can use adapters from amazon.

Or this https://www.adafruit.com/product/3258

[last plaza]

Dwarf apple trees? We grow apples crazy in our area. Too much maintenance with squirrels and bunnies.

Perfect!!! That’s exactly what I am looking for. You da man!

Panel mount is the keyword. 😎

[tidal bronze]

Won't grow taller than 6 to 8 feet but already got fruit.

[last plaza]

Yup. We got a dwarf lime tree.

[tidal bronze]

All I have is dwarf except a lemon tree. Walk up and pluck is easier. Lol

[last plaza]

lol

We saw a snake in our yard today. Garden snake.

Luckily we don’t have poisonous snakes in Ohio.

Damn Covid-19!

[clear ferry]

The soundtrack of a quarantine

https://open.spotify.com/album/6WaIQHxEHtZL0RZ62AuY0g?si=2KaodYpVRn6s1LWrmg320A

[last plaza]

No amazon delivery until April 21. 😢

[clear ferry]

Thankfully I have 40+ AliExpress orders waiting in my garage

But still no time to do stuff

[strange vapor]

Disinfecting them first? 🙂

[clear ferry]

Nah they have been sitting around for months already

[winter imp]

@tidal bronze where can i find more info on your clock project?

[forest edge]

@clear ferry they probably disintegrated by now then lol

[tidal bronze]

@winter imp I think you are looking for someone else 😀

@last plaza these are also dwarf 😜

[strange vapor]

Found my old USB <-> GPS so creating my own Stratum 1 GPS on a Pi, just cause I can 😄

https://www.hackster.io/news/build-your-own-stratum-1-ntp-time-server-with-a-raspberry-pi-and-u-blox-neo-6m-6ce68bcd5752

[forest edge]

quad the farmer lol

next you'll be showing us pics of your bee hive setup lol

[tidal bronze]

Dude ....trying to pretend I am going places. Usually I am only home few hours a day, this is driving me nuts.

[forest edge]

lmao

[tidal bronze]

Badly missing the horrible airport lounge food and 10 nuts per bag airline peanuts.

[last plaza]

@tidal bronze sweet!!! Oranges look very fresh!

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze get yourself a VR setup and play "Passenger stuck in coach simulator" lmao

[tidal bronze]

Tomorrow might pull out VR googles and waste another 15 minutes 🤣

[clear ferry]

I'm actually going onsite to a customer tomorrow, not a single door I have to touch from exciting my car to the office

And rubbing alcohol in the office

[forest edge]

uh oh atx time to get infected

[tidal bronze]

I wish I was starting with HA, sucks when everything works the way you want.

[forest edge]

you could always build a second setup using openhab and trying to get that to work

[clear ferry]

Norway enters third day without deaths, no exponential growth. - https://mobile.twitter.com/Covid19Norway/status/1241692983860375553

Eirik L. (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2 update Norway) (@Covid19Norway)

Cumulative number of confirmed cases and deaths from COVID19, Norway. Y-axis is logarithmic. No new deaths reported since Thursday. No sign of exponential growth. Are the current measures working? Maybe. Continued testing will help evidence based decisions.

Graph by @vgne...

Twitter

[forest edge]

soon as you leave your house atx all that will change

[clear ferry]

Yes, my farts are putrid

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge no drive to do that. This year it will be 20 years since I started on automating crap at home. Might pull few cat5 runs just to get my mind off stuff. 😜

[forest edge]

20 years? wtf was automated at the start? the coffee maker?

[clever mortar]

X10 and others have been around for a long time

[tidal bronze]

X10 yes coffee maker and table lamps

[clever mortar]

Hell, Z-Wave was released in '99

[forest edge]

i forgot about that lol

[last plaza]

First computer itself is an automation

[strange vapor]

@tidal bronze I've got to start pulling Cat 5. Main problem is the damn insulation in the way 😦

Hate dealing with that crap

[tidal bronze]

Check out laborsavingdevices

There's a tool and method to the madness

Good ol homeseer 😄

[forest edge]

yea no.. back then I would have called you a goober lol

my grandfather was bnig on RF devices, door sensors that made lights turn on when opened etc

I thought it was neat but a novelty

[strange vapor]

I saw a whole load of X10 kit, still sealed in box, in a Goodwill over in California a few years ago. Was so tempted to buy, but wasn't sure if it would work on 240v, and would have been an annoyance to ship/

[forest edge]

holy hell. NY paying $7 a mask when before they only paid $0.85 a mask

Trump is seriously fucking this whole thing up lol

correction, he's seriously helping others get rich off a shit situation

[strange vapor]

The US is rapidly moving up the charts as more testing is done :/

[orchid rose]

testing charts don't really tell anything when nations test differently

here for example we only test people who we expect to have the virus

[strange vapor]

US is far behind the rest of the world after that mis-step trying to use locally designed tests. As they ramp up the proper testing, the number of know cases is skyrocketing 😦

[hushed basalt]

Our government is purely reactive

See what the curve looks like, do something, wait and see what happens

[static plinth]

so no voice channels huh? is that typical for Discord?

im new to discord, as a non-gamer the voice channel is a little hard for me to figure out since I think(?) I only Discord with text channel only servers

@forest edge I'm going out on a wild limb here and saying those masks have been $7 at the border since 2018 as well

[rain swift]

The US also has like 360 million people.

can't compare numbers unless it's like, per 100,000 or something

[forest edge]

@static plinth not sure I follow. those masks were probably around 7 bucks to consumers (hadn't bought one) but like everything when it comes to buying in bulk and to specialized personnel things have always been cheaper, damn near at cost.

[static plinth]

i'm saying he supports projects where there is an opportunity to make his friends some money, but it's been going on since the border wall detention centers.

as well as how he inherited his cash

[forest edge]

oh well yea

[tropic hedge]

Does anyone have a Denon receiver hooked up to HA? Is it possible to see and/or SET the current source, volume, etc?

[thick dragon]

Would recommend hooking up a Harmony instead then using the Harmony component to control your receiver (and everything else).

[pearl plinth]

https://twitter.com/Frenck/status/1241871165762736131

Franck Nijhof (@Frenck)

New add-on for Home Assistant: Folding@home 🎉

Donate the idle time of your Home Assistant instance to the @foldingathome project: help fight diseases. Current research: Alzheimer's disease, cancer, Ebola and the coronavirus.

https://t.co/58b9fj56VS

Twitter

[tropic hedge]

@thick dragon is that via IR?

oh holy mother of crap. I went to order the Denon receiver I wanted on Best Buy and it was $650 when I added it to the cart. When I went to check out it was $800. Turns out it was a one day $150 off and apparently their servers are central time so it's midnight there. I hit checkout at 10:02pm my time (12:02 am theres)

[thick dragon]

Yes, via IR. Logitech Harmony Hub is an IR blaster (also has bluetooth functionality) with an RF remote that can be configured in a multitude of ways. Definitely a worthy purchase. And the HA integration is local control, so pretty easy to do stuff with it.

Sucks about the receiver. I paid about $1.2k AUD for my Sony receiver, but that was about 1.5 yrs ago now.

[tropic hedge]

I used to have a really nice Universal (brand) remote with an IR repeater that mounted on the wall so the remote could work from anywhere

so I'm going to galaxy brain this receiver thing I hope. Amazon still has the $650 price on the receiver for another hour or two so I'm going to price match best buy and get my $150 back

[tropic hedge]

woohoo! I just got $163 back, thanks Best Buy price match!

[thick dragon]

👍 Grats. I've heard the Audyssey room correction on Denons is fantastic.

[tropic hedge]

that's good, my room is a misshappen echo chamber

I have little furniture and the room is 18" underground. A pin drop is deafening

[left valve]

Hey does anyone know of any integration for a Linux Desktop

To know wether is on/off, suspend it, etc

[thick dragon]

Room correction won't really help too much with that @tropic hedge. That's soundwaves bouncing around too much. You will need some furniture/rugs/curtains/sound treatment on the walls to prevent that.

[tropic hedge]

yah, just moved back into my house after a 3 year renovation. I'm working with a designer to finish stuff up, but Coronavirus 8(

[thick dragon]

Nice! must be exciting to be back in it. Sucks that things will be delayed even further though 😦

[tropic hedge]

it's ok. I'm so, so thankful for Home Assistant. When I started this back in 2016 I wasn't going to do any home automation at all. Now I'm pretty much all-in

got whole-home audio, ethernet to every room. A nice homelab setup to play with, a dozen cameras (to also play with)

So even if stuff's delayed (I still don't have a real fridge and I've been here almost 2 months) I have so, so much stuff to screw around with I'll never be bored

[thick dragon]

@left valve: You could use ping integration (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/ping/) for on/off state, and shell command (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/shell_command/) to get HA to control your Linux install.

Yeah, tinkering and getting your automations just right takes months and months so you'll be very happy for a while 🙂

[left valve]

I created a small nice script that locks, suspends, turns off my pc using mqtt

A few simple lines of code in python. I will try to integrate into systemd and see

Thanks for the help, ping and shell command. Didn't knew about it

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/track/747469RU5d5GzavkG4F4L3?si=43alMbwiTu2YX6ygMOPDNA

[clear ferry]

I must say, I can get used to Corona traffic

Can actually keep the speed limit for a change in the morning

[hushed basalt]

Indeed

Shame companies will force desk workers back to the office after this is over

https://media.tenor.com/images/2500c2c1e77a9229a4b0ef35db1040cb/tenor.gif

[midnight adder]

@hushed basalt saves me some fat

im only eating candy all day

and dont move

[hushed basalt]

Government: stop panick buying toilet paper we have plenty it won't run out

Then where is it!

[clever mortar]

Chatting with staff in one supermarket, the answer is that the shelves are getting stripped as fast as they can stock them...

So, even with stock in the system, it always looks bad

[hushed basalt]

:(

People have been panick buying for weeks

And we have one pack limits

You think people would have enough by now?

[clever mortar]

In the UK something like £1Bn extra has been spent over the last 2 weeks on food and toiletries

[hushed basalt]

I bought one pack 2 weeks ago, but that was the only pack I saw in the past 3 weeks

I mean I've definitely spent heaps. I've stocked up pretty hard

But I only have bought extra of what I normally use

[clever mortar]

We were out yesterday, and while some places are empty, other places are pretty well stocked

Levels overall are down, but we'd no issues getting anything we wanted

[hushed basalt]

I don't need anything else for a long time.

But my toilet paper and paper towel will run out

Possibly hand soap

We washed our hands a lot even before covid because our daughter has serious allergies so can't cross contaminate

Plus we have to stick to the ultra sensitive handwashes which limits our options.

I guess I would feel more comfortable in maintaining normal shopping levels if there was regular supply

I'd be more than happy to have a rationing system.

[clever mortar]

We're ok for hand soap, but partially because I'd accidentally over-ordered from Amazon when buying refills. I thought I was buying smaller refill bags, and was actually buying 1L bags...

[hushed basalt]

I've found lots of little bottles of hand sanitizer stashed through the house

Ones I've forgotten about from years past

It's just a shame that people can't get important supplies like masks, sanitiser and gloves because of scalpers

[light trout]

as long as I can ge coffee, bacon, beer and cigaretts I'm happy

[hushed basalt]

I've got 3kg of coffee beans :D

[clever mortar]

Coffee ✅ Bacon ✅ 🍺 ☑️ 🚭

I have about 2 months supply of coffee to hand

[hushed basalt]

Yeah I go through about 1kg a month

[light trout]

I have about 4h left

[clever mortar]

We normally buy catering volumes, or bulk purchase at a discount

[hushed basalt]

So I just ordered an extra 1kg on top of my normal subscription

Fresh roasted coffee in small batches is best. But not $60 a kilo best

I pay $19 a kilo for decent coffee on amazon

[midnight adder]

lol we got toilet paper at ebay for 1000 euros

[hushed basalt]

Wat

[last dirge]

I grabbed a 2 pound bag of the Costco Hawaiian roast while I was in last time

it's pretty good

that's a little less than a kilo for you non SAE folk

and for your folk who are SAE sometimes but not all the time

[stuck bay]

I do certainly enjoy a good cup of gourmet coffee now and then. Just about every morning lol.

[clear ferry]

Zzz Corona offices are boring, so little to do

[forest edge]

as atx realizes for the first time in his life his job is boring

[stuck bay]

@clear ferry being self confined is about to make me lose my mind! Wishing I had a Corona office right about now. I think the boring factor goes down by at least 10 × or more.

[clear ferry]

@stuck bay Home office doesn't bother me, I can work from home for weeks without issues, I hate people anyway

@forest edge not the first time, but usually it isn't quite as boring , its more fun with overtime at night waiting for someone else and still getting paid 100%

[clever mortar]

I do remember one job where I got paid to sit around for days on end since the other parties involved couldn't get things ready

[forest edge]

@clear ferry so the truth comes out. the job has always been boring, it's the money for doing nothing that keeps your interest peaked lol

[stuck bay]

Lol yeah it is nice to get paid for waiting! Yeah I'm sure you are right about the office however, it would be possibly 2 day before I wanted the home office back. I mean when it's cold I'd rather be hot and when it's hot I'd rather well you know lol perhaps I'm just uncomfortable regardless of the circumstances especially these days @clear ferry

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/2bgCCXSrwHA

[clear ferry]

@clever mortar you mean every second project I'm in? Or any that involve partners?

[clever mortar]

Only every second one?

I'm actually impressed

[clear ferry]

I just pulled the funding for a partner and did the work myself because they just never showed up, 55k GBP right back to my team

[clever mortar]

Nice - enough to pay for a PFY

[clear ferry]

Yeah, and that is just one example....

[hushed basalt]

Think about all that proxmox learning you'll be able to do

[clear ferry]

🤢

Children's virtualization

[forest edge]

I am not seeing anything that indicates this outbreak is going to change anything other than raise our healthcare costs after this over lol

[hushed basalt]

I'm not paying license frees for my homelab

[clear ferry]

@hushed basalt neither am i

@forest edge like every year then

[hushed basalt]

Our health insurance is getting silly

Let it all burn and nationalise it all

Two tier health systems should be illegal

[clear ferry]

Norwat style

[hushed basalt]

BuT I wOrKeD hARd fOr mY mOnEY sHOulDnT I gET beTter cAre

[clear ferry]

🤢

[forest edge]

it feels like it would actually take some kind of uprising to force change since even this outbreak doesn't seem to phase anything

[hushed basalt]

Cafes are still packed

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/0oPbpE5EIgc

[hushed basalt]

Maybe we should just change the migration intakes so that 1 out of every 2 immigrants much be a norwat

Change it from the inside

[forest edge]

lol everyone flood norway

prob get most fo us in this discord fit into atx's house

[hushed basalt]

Well Norway does have oil

I'm surprised they haven't been freedom'd

[forest edge]

@clear ferry I expect a premium sleep number king size bed waiting for me when i arrive with my own room and bathroom

[clear ferry]

Like any hospital room in Norway you say?

[forest edge]

i wouldn't doubt it

[hushed basalt]

Public system: underfunded, overworked and often undertrained staff, waitlists in years,

Private system, short waitlist, best doctors due to charging private fees,

[forest edge]

the real question is. does norway havve real doctors or they more like those candy stripers canada has? lol

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

lol get coronavirus and go to the vet

[hushed basalt]

This is what happens when you search public hospital norway

Not suspicious at all

Norwats are all horse people in human costumes!

[forest edge]

lol

[hushed basalt]

@clear ferry would you rather eat a steak or a carrot

[clear ferry]

Steak

But I grow my own carrots

[hushed basalt]

That's what a horse would say if it was trying to hide it's true form

There's only one way to be sure

[clear ferry]

[hushed basalt]

https://media.tenor.com/images/4ce0fcf9f4e4e4aa088b5363c6037083/tenor.gif

[clear ferry]

https://media.tenor.com/images/2fdae111f876b208d651249f667e24c2/tenor.gif

[hushed basalt]

Then you should have become an architect

[clear ferry]

Many people getting a new kitchen at IKEA today

[forest edge]

noone told them ikea products melt when wet?

[clear ferry]

You are confusing sears and IKEA

[clever mortar]

I've still got an Ikea high-chair that's 25+ years old, and has been abused a lot during those years, including doubling up as a step stool at times - other than one missing clip for the food tray, it's still in one piece

[clear ferry]

Aye, most of my house is IKEA tbh

[forest edge]

well as long as they don't get wet

[strange vapor]

My sister is furnishing a new build house at the other side of the country. I have a big car, so she asked if I'd collect an order for her. Luckily I looked at the order before driving up! Ended up renting a big ass van, Renault Master, to carry everything from Dublin to Galway 😄

It was packed to the ceiling. What was a nice nippy van going from the rental to Ikea suddnely had a 0-60 of about two days

[wet pilot]

0 - 60 of "eventually if there's a downhill"

[last dirge]

I've got a horrible case of the Mondays

[strange vapor]

Currently having fun with a team new to Da Cloud

They deployed an "Essential Service" onto a single instance on AWS. Up for about a year, and we got the alert from AWS that the underlying hardware was faulty and to get off it. They delayed because they weren't sure what was manually setup etc on this special special instance.

Hypervisore died, and suddenly it's a massive panic.

[clear ferry]

Got my 3d printed cc1352 case from @eternal mango today

[strange vapor]

I'm sitting here having to mute because I'm giggling too much.

[clear ferry]

[strange vapor]

ZERO SLA on single instances in AWS.

[wet pilot]

lol

i'm "online" at work but i completed everything i need to do this sprint in the first 2 days of the cycle

[clear ferry]

@wet pilot that just means more time to do procrastination

[wet pilot]

pretty much

i'm running out of youtube vids to watch

[clear ferry]

Then find another tube

Like farmertube

Or the Russian wetube

[strange vapor]

I have rips on my local NAS which I've never watched.. Slowly getting through them.

[stuck bay]

Perhaps I can be of some assistance

We can develop a file just for you where we will make up a load of crap and sell it to your rivals

[clever mortar]

Username checks out

https://www.reddit.com/r/cybersecurity/comments/fnkyp4/leaked_plans_reveal_mirailike_russian_iot_botnet/

[stuck bay]

Oh its getting a little spicy in here

Not only am I a Russian bought president I'm also a member

[upper apex]

Should I move my Home assistant from SD to a USB 3.0 SSD? All running on a PIE 4 4gb...

[clear ferry]

Students across the US are being asked to work remotely. But 22% of homes don't have internet - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/23/us-students-are-being-asked-to-work-remotely-but-22-of-homes-dont-have-internet

[stuck bay]

Lol

[orchid rose]

wat

[clever mortar]

Students in the UK are "working" remotely, except that many are using Teams, and Teams has been "having issues" today

[clear ferry]

I've done my one onsite day today, remote rest of week

[forest edge]

atx you can't seem to grasp the vast difference in population can you? lol

[clever mortar]

Still, when you're telling everybody to study at home, but nearly a quarter of your population can't there's a problem

Regardless of why, it's a bad thing

[clear ferry]

For the worlds most technologically advanced country

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge you crack me up dude

[upper apex]

I guess my issue with all this BS is people complaining about allot of education trying to go to online when its the only real option they have. You cant go back to school/college so your choice is to stay home and do nothing or stay home and continue your education. Those who dont have internet there are allot of internet options now a days. If there are absolute zero internet options for you at home (Which I doubt) then thats life, go outside and scream up at the sky @ coronavirus. As a "type" of educator myself. I just think its funny all these students complaining about the options given to them but the schools and teachers dont have any other options to provide.

[clever mortar]

💵 is the problem

Not everybody can afford a computer, and internet, etc

[upper apex]

i understand for some people

but almost everyone has smart phones now a days which have skype and many other video call apps

[wet pilot]

that's a broad generalization 😉

[upper apex]

America and educators have never been in this position. just find it funny all this energy wasted on memes and jokes when it could be directed towards ideas on how to help

@wet pilot well those that don't, it is what it is lol. Its no ones fault

[wet pilot]

eh, lots of blame can be levied

[forest edge]

For the worlds most technologically advanced country
@clear ferry you can lfit 24 norways within the united states. there are bounds to be areas that can't have internet that also cannot afford satellite internet (not that anyone would want that anyways lol)

[wet pilot]

largely at the failures of the FCC and current administration for not furthering the goals of a post industrial nation

but we're getting dangerously close to a rules violation on this thread so we should probably change the topic

[upper apex]

thats an excuse, internet via satellite can be as cheap as $80 a month. free install, free shipping and so on

[wet pilot]

$80/month can be quite the burden for many

[forest edge]

80 is alot for homesteaders

[upper apex]

that $80 can easily be found in their budgets by making cuts, not paying for a airline ticket back to school, not paying for gas driving around at school etc.

[clever mortar]

So... wide sweeping generalisations

take it to reddit

[upper apex]

home steaders arnt away at college ll

lol*

[clever mortar]

Any continuation here will result in 🔨

[upper apex]

this is the lounge lol

[wet pilot]

we're not really talking college here, colleges will figure stuff out. Primary education is the main concern

[velvet horizon]

The topic of this channel is:

NO POLITICS or RELIGION and BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.

Command '.topic' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[wet pilot]

and @clever mortar is a Mod 😉

[upper apex]

no politics, religoin so on

i know lol

[clever mortar]

This is heavily into politics, and also likely to get heated

[forest edge]

to be clear i'm only referencing atx's comment, no one elses lol

[wet pilot]

lol

[upper apex]

i dont think it was headed that way just talk

[clever mortar]

Well, take it to reddit or somewhere else 😉

[wet pilot]

heh the pop density of norway is still less than the us

[orchid rose]

boooooo, I was just getting my 🍿

[midnight adder]

!kill discussion

[forest edge]

a literal drop in the bucket lol

[upper apex]

lol ok

so library not lounge

[wet pilot]

15/Km^2 vs 34

more like "Civil social environment"

we have to spell things out otherwise people get salty

[upper apex]

🙂

well all i know is my jobs a big fat rip

Flight instructor here..

[wet pilot]

ouch

[upper apex]

and cant do that online haha

[wet pilot]

maybe some "ground school" but yeah. that super sucks

[upper apex]

yeah can only do so much of that before your waisting their money

[clever mortar]

MS Flight Sim 😄

[upper apex]

haha just in time for the release

[clever mortar]

The fun days of flying a 747 under the Golden Gate bridge

[orchid rose]

They are making a new FS btw which looks absolutely amazing. Can't wait for it to melt my PC.

[upper apex]

anyone wanna play some EFT

yeah 132gb of ram and still wants more... munch munch munch

[orchid rose]

cries in 16Gb

[upper apex]

did yall hear what kinda jokes the FCC wants us telling?

"inside jokes"

chuckles*

[river rune]

SpaceX is working on the internet availability issue... Although it probably won't work well up here or Norway...

But that is a 5-10 year plan

[upper apex]

yeah they want it worldwide, one day I can easily see it. But not quick enough for this predicament.

[river rune]

Nothing short term

[upper apex]

think musk was asked to work on a cure

[wet pilot]

musk is to focused on the space victory

[river rune]

I wouldn't be surprised if he sent some computing power their way... Actually I would be surprised if he isn't helping in some way

[upper apex]

i think hes a real fart smeller

smart feller*

yall still got your deposits down on the truck

[dull chasm]

yall haave five minutes I have @clever mortar on lockdown and he cant BAN

[river rune]

lol, I would if I could afford it... Although probably not the truck... I would like to have a Model X personally

[forest edge]

@river rune don't think the truck would fair well in alaska? lol

[upper apex]

he was just keeping the peace

and did try to show me his hammer though...

stranger danger is what i was taught

it was crooked looking, quite scary!

[clever mortar]

Any well used hammer is a little bit broken

[upper apex]

haha

hows your hand looking though...

[clever mortar]

Slightly flat 🤔

[dull chasm]

ok tink is unleashed God bless your souls and God Speed

[river rune]

I think the truck would do fine up here, I just don't like the look of it and it won't fit 2 carseats and 2 booster seats lol

[forest edge]

lol

[river rune]

Having 3 (soon to be 4) kids really limits what vehicles you get lol

[forest edge]

whats the virus like up there?

you all practicing social distancing of 6 miles apart? lol

[upper apex]

@river rune you need condemns not a new truck 😉

my second is about to pop out any day now

[river rune]

22 cases in Alaska, 10 are community spread. None within 60 miles of me and no community spread within 250 miles of me. The community spread seems to all be in small villages/towns where they can't really isolate from everyone else and don't have good medical care.

That and in Juneau where all the hand shaking polititians are lol

[upper apex]

dusty headed your way to do some fishing

show me the hot spot

[forest edge]

I actually would have thought there would have been less cases than 22

you all must shake hands alot and hug or something lol

[river rune]

This is the time of year that everyone travels to warmer climates...

lol

[upper apex]

eskimo kisses... duh

[river rune]

And 12 out of those cases are all travel related, meaning they got the virus from somewhere out of state and brought it back with them.

[forest edge]

prob gonna be a surge of people wanting to livve in the remote wilderness after this lol

[upper apex]

i mean

its all travel related

right?

kinda a weird statistic

[river rune]

Look at the definition at the bottom

There is a difference between having travel related cases and having community spread. Once you start getting community spread that is when it really takes off and gets the exponential growth curve

So it is an important distinction

[upper apex]

biggest issue with it that i see is the incubation time

you can be out and about feeling great for like 8 days and not know your spreading it

thats what sucks most about it

[river rune]

Correct, which is why when you start to see the community spread you know it is about to start skyrocketing.

[upper apex]

yeah i gues s

[river rune]

But until you see that it is kinda in limbo

[upper apex]

yeah as long as that person stays in his damn house lol

kids these days...

[forest edge]

well everyone will end up with it at some point regardless

[upper apex]

correct

[river rune]

Most Alaskans are recluse anyway lol

[upper apex]

just like the flu

but right now 99% of the medical staff world wide dont really know what to do with it

[river rune]

Especially since I work from home now I have to actually find reasons to leave the house lol

[upper apex]

its spreading quicker than they can instructor doctors and nurses what to do with it

[river rune]

There's nothing you can do with it... Just like the flu and other viruses. All you can do is supportive care and isolation. Which all of them already know how to do.

[upper apex]

some play some escape from tarkov wid me

someone* lol

[forest edge]

everyone here plays minecraft cause they love automation so much they needed a game they could simulate automation of tasks in as well as real life lol

[tidal bronze]

Is it Monday?

[river rune]

Some places... Other places it is Tuesday

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze counting down a month long amazon order delivery? lol

[clear ferry]

@upper apex just do Microsoft flight simulator

@forest edge just order from AliExpress, faster than Amazon prime by now

[tidal bronze]

Trying to find stuff to do....was going to add esp8266 to turn on/off and this damn thing has a time. Oh well.

[last dirge]

you've got yourself a Keurig Petri Dish?

[tidal bronze]

This is at work.

[river rune]

Depends on where you are... I'm still getting prime shipments in a little over a week...

[clear ferry]

The Keurig cups are so damn massive, any European coffee machine cup you can fit 4 of in one Keurig cup

[tidal bronze]

Perfect size for me. Wouldn't know what to do without them.

Any model with direct water supply FTW refilling early morning sucks.

[clear ferry]

Atleast I can drink my tap water 😩

[forest edge]

how you plan to control it with an esp? you already locate the uart and can access it?

[tidal bronze]

Just bypass power.

[clear ferry]

The Georgia water was very chlorine

[forest edge]

wouldn't a smart plug be easier? lol

[tidal bronze]

Nopes.

Momentary power switch bypass by relay.

[forest edge]

@clear ferry that wasn't chlorine

[river rune]

My Tap water is fresh mountain spring water. We have a 13 foot deep well with flowing spring water that comes out of the ground about 2 miles downhill from us.

[clear ferry]

@river rune if I have to move to the US I'll choose Alaska

[river rune]

Almost everyone up here (except for people that live in Anchorage) have wells for their water supply. Most are a lot deeper though usually around 200-300 feet deep to the aquifer or other underground streams.

[forest edge]

does it get tested?

[river rune]

But that also means we don't have fire hydrants really anywhere, so when fire fighters respond to a fire they have to bring engines and tankers so the tankers go fill up at a nearby stream or lake and then bring it to the engines...

[forest edge]

this day and age i would be weary of public accessed aquifer

[river rune]

Yeah, our well gets tested every year or so.

[clear ferry]

Same as northern Norway in all accounts then @river rune

[river rune]

It is up to the homeowner to get their water tested though

I would be more weary of public water supplies lol

[forest edge]

I would but my cousin actually does that for a living so I've seen first hand what's all involved there and they take that crap very seriously so it dosen't worry me

the only downside is diffrent areas treat the water diffrently thus diffrent tastes lol

[tidal bronze]

We get our public water test report 2 times a year in LA. Cleaner than most bottled water.

[river rune]

All it would take is someone going to any hydrant and pressure injecting something and the whole line is contaminated...

[forest edge]

not quite lol

the system is setup to prevent that

[river rune]

Well, anything downstream from that...

[tidal bronze]

Yep

[forest edge]

there is so much pressure

[river rune]

Hense the "pressure injecting" part

[forest edge]

well you gotta remember, hydrants vvalve access is underground. not really anywhere above ground to inject anything too

[tidal bronze]

That's a lot of effort, easier to mess with the aqueduct 😀

[river rune]

You connect something to an output and then you open the valve... Not that difficult.

I have used hydrants many a time

[forest edge]

that would be some james bond villian type stuff lol

[tidal bronze]

Lmao

[river rune]

[clear ferry]

[river rune]

So is tampering with an aquifer

[forest edge]

yea but you havve private access to it on your own private land. not standing at a street corner hooking up hoses holding a big wrench lol

[tidal bronze]

Other than people panic buying I have never heard people talking about water. Other than the fancy ph balanced stuff in LA.

[river rune]

And @tidal bronze most bottled water is just city tap water lol

[tidal bronze]

I have a whole house filtration system anyway. Never thought about water.

[river rune]

I lived near a bottling plant for Walmart in Tenessee... they just use city tap water

[clear ferry]

Filtering water

[forest edge]

it's not directly from the tap, it has to be filtered to a degree lol

course cheap water is what you pay for

[tidal bronze]

https://www.lifesourcewater.com/ultimate-protection-package.php

[forest edge]

ok how can there be no filter changes

what keeps the minerals from causing clogs

[tidal bronze]

[phone]

[river rune]

You hire someone to come change it for you

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge can you find out for me?

[forest edge]

did you ask them that or am i missing something? lol

[tidal bronze]

I didn't but you want to know right ? Number is up there.

[river rune]

They are rated for 2.2-5.7 million gallons...

[forest edge]

well it looks like the white cartridge thing in front of the two bottles is a fliter lol

[river rune]

So they are just planning on you moving before you have to change it

[forest edge]

yea that's probably it dusty

[river rune]

Also it has a rinse cycle to clean out the carbon bed...

[forest edge]

yea but no rinse can remove embded minerals

[river rune]

Yeah, which is where the gallon rating comes in...

[tidal bronze]

If I can take my daily water intake from the shower head in the morning, that's all that matters. 😜

[forest edge]

you really shouldn't drink heated water

[river rune]

The average Alaskan household uses 131,400 gallons of water per year, so that filter should last ~16 years

[forest edge]

heated from a hot water tank that is

[tidal bronze]

Tankless

[forest edge]

not sure if tankless introduces the same stuff or not

[tidal bronze]

I will start to worry about that stuff once I quit smoking 😂

[forest edge]

lol thats like me

so i guess you guys are the ship mercy for non-virus medial stuff quad

[green inlet]

Something is going to get you......it’s probably not going to be water from a water heater 😳

[forest edge]

you'll have break a leg so you can board it and see what it looks like lol

[clear ferry]

Filtering water 😩

[green inlet]

@clear ferry , is just dying for someone to ask so he can tell you how perfect Norway water is