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yea like everything it varies on the person and their current health
Covid19 is serious business though
maybe, they just don't know yet of anything
if it's only merely a stronger version of the coronavirus strains we've had all along then it won't be shit
but cause they don't know anything yet there is no telling lol
I'll just go home and eat some raw bacon then
It's very serious. Biggest concern is overwhelming the hospital system
Flatten that curve!
serious in the aspect of panic. yea i agree
It's it's own framework
Visual basics
lol
Very helpful
Minecraft?
Java 1.3
@clear ferry you'll havve to give us details since we all know you'll be the first to get it lol
Jenkins
yea.. you'll catch CoronaBacon
Italy is a good model to see the serious effects of coronavirus
Admittedly all those euros smoke like chimneys
I used to do 40 per day
40 cigs a day?
40kg of bacon
Smoking rates are really low here
Whenever I go to Melbourne I feel like I'm dying
Smokers everywhere
Damn hipsters
I stick to a 300g pack of bacon for each snack
Did you mean each bite?
you may not survvive the covid-19 afterall lol

you'll be the first "youngin" to die from it
@forest edge been eating raw bacon and ground beef for 30+ years, still alive
Never been sick from it
Bacon is cured though
So raw isn't a fair descriptor
Raw beef is just fine. It's spoiled when you go past medium...
raw meat is nasty
raw bacon though. Just no.
yea you went below that lol
you probably chew directly on the cow just to pre-taste it lmao
Covid19 is serious business though
@hushed basalt Yep, whoever called thisjust like fluis responsible for downplaying and now the shitstorm.
Amount of older generation on my Facebook feed the past few weeks
Crap like "15000 people have died from dehydration in the last day" etc
it's not just old people, anyone with a weakened immune system for any reason is at risk
and only cause of how the fever starts
My grandparent inlaws are 79
With lots of other comordibities
Their daughter/my MIL was one of the ones posting "it's just a flu" a week ago
atx will be among them cause he's already a Petri dish full of random disgusting stuff lol
i'm confused. shouldn't you already have it? like half your population already has it
I'm so fat I AM half our population
By mass
you say you ate half your population?

well we answered two questions about you atx. #1 you like cherry crap cause your taste buds are toast from eating raw cow and your office is too hot cause your fat generates too much heat

at least the smell will eventually go away after covid-19 takes you to relieve some burden on your family lol
Good lord man
SavageAF
one F1 team has had to pullout due to human malware about an hour ago, and there still is not response from any of the Formula One orginisers
"human malware" lmao
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1238117921932611584
Morons run formula one
Despite McLaren's withdrawal from this weekend's F1 opener after a team member showed coronavirus-like symptoms, this weekend's Australian Grand Prix is set to go ahead.
"human malware" lmao
@scenic radish Ispired by Gamers Nexus' work arround for the demonitisation of the subject
Corona home office ready
My county just found E. Coli in the water system. We are on a boiling water only ban. Need to wash hands for Corona Virus but not in E. Coli water π€£. Think I am just going to beer/wine/vodka
Union County?
I put some E Coli into some water earlier
Does anyone here have experience with a Eufy Cam 2C?
I've just installed one in my garage and it doesnt seem to be picking up my garage door opening
guys, parent of a young kid under curfew here in Italy because of the epidemic ... no experience with onliine gaming ... little one wants to play Minecraft with a friend at his own house (because of the law everybody must stay at home) ... how can they chat together, via Discord? Thanks for any suggestion
hi scerstt can you suggest a guide or soemthing for me to set it up for them?
7 yrs
little kids
Ok, just be sure to monitor what they're doing on there
can you do a "room" or something only for them?
Actually you need to be 13 or older to sign up for discord
You could let him use your account? that way you can easily monitor everything going on
there's little I cannot signup for, even funerals π π
haha!
so I can suggest to the other's kid parent to get on Discord right?
Providing you monitor what they're doing and they're not adding anyone apart from eachother, sure
Well on Discord they could at least create an own server without anyone else ever knowing the kids exist. And talk there. I just dunno about the age of registration part π
Probably still the most easy part of a chat... beside Skype
Just make sure they play no Fortnite. Ever. Trust me.
Maybe just block all possible Fortnite Domains on Router
I haven't used online chat in years outside of work
Used to host ventrilo and mumble servers though
Not sure if those are used still
i used to host a ts3 and then a mumble server
but discord has won out with everyone these days
Anyone using nagios to monitor an esxi host?
All my raspis were using the nrpe plugin to monitor but not sure how to install nrpe from source on an esxi host.
Or the nagios plugins for that matter. There are instructions for both but esxi is not one of the OS. Is there an OS that esxi resembles, like being able to follow Debian instructions for raspberry?
Run snmp
Welcome back? I canβt figure out hoe to do that. Setup snmp just like on a Debian/raspi system?
And nagios has a couple really nice esxi plugins
IMO Nagios has been punched off years ago with Check_MK.... this should be the rather recommended up to date version of Nagios
1 hour to get in to costco, 2 hours in the checkout line. No paper towels!!! Nice !
Nagios π€’
@green inlet esxi is a proprietary operating system, it will not be like any other OS, since 4.1 atleast
Then you could treat it like rhel atleast
Thatβs what I thought.
Check_MK_?
Quad, what are you monitoring with snmp? Do you know the MIBs.....well obviously, but can you provide them to me?
What are you wanting to monitor? Performance or hardware failures?
Anything important π€£
Prob a little of both. I already have a stable nagios instance which is why I would like to use it.
You have to remember, I am a bit of a hack
Does anyone really need monitoring for a home network? I do it for the challenge
Cim providers it seems, but not sure if they are avaliable without license
I saw that, I am in the process of using it. Not sure the plugin is available for 6.7
Thought I saw something last night where it wasnβt but canβt find it today
Atleast the API is not avaliable without a paid license
I run enterprise plus on everything, so not sure
π
lol
we are going to have 3 week spring break instead of typical 1 week
Have to cancel all my military customer visits, but will finally get time for home office
ah, the super-spreader is finally taking a break! 
Mr raw Bacon eater to you thank you
I had salmonella when I was born. I'm the raw bacon eater

AND I was a breech baby. I'll never hear the end of this
also left handed...step child...red hair
got it all goin on
@shy comet did you get some supplies ?
I had to stay in moisture cabinets 2-3 times a year as a child because I had false croup 
@tidal bronze yea i had to endure costco yesterday
showed up at 930 am....line wrapped around teh store outside...then anohter one wrapped around inside for water/tp
we were low so not stockpiling lol
Water I am not worried about but grabbed some
im guessing if washington goes on lockdown so will we immediately after
Stocking up on rice now.
People buy water? 
should get a whole house filter, much cheaper than buying water bottles
@wet pilot that's what I have. π
same here π
Just got the filter checked
and it'll keep working without power, it just won't clean itself
yeah, mine is asking for that
Yep
@clear ferry you experienced first hand in GA why they're needed here
Not cleaning showerheads
@wet pilot chlorine made sprite taste better 
O.o
720 so far in Norway
@shy comet if you need rice plenty at indian store Sherman way / topanga
Costco was sold out
@tidal bronze no rice here in costco or samsclub for us. I got some from Restaurant Depot π
I got some 40lb bags at the Indian store.
I just have a stock room of non perishable goods at all times, that I fill every 6 months or so, shopping cheap in Sweden
i stocked up on filament LOL
Lol
filament as in 3D printer filament?
yup
I guess you need the filament during apocalypses π
there was a really good sale on 3d solutech so i went crazy and bought 10 rolls...$6/kg
Didn't want to miss out on crackers.
looking for one - but too lazy to assemble one
i got the woot deal on black friday
its not bad assembly....i watched a video that was 10 min long and followed it
@tidal bronze holy crap dude! anything left in the store?
i did upgrade teh board to 32bit and added bltouch and glass bed
they let you get more than 2 cases of water?
ours had a hard limit of 2 per membership
@tidal bronze no candy?
Kirkland only 2 but ph balanced any amount.
we have a limit - 2 per family
Its was 2 Kirkland 5 arrowhead and unlimited ph balanced and smart water
dude people were loading up on baby wipes too lol
No wipes and towels at all
yea u gotta be first to get in for that stuff
we got some wipes yesterday
I might get some tomorrow. My buddy who is the manager at Burbank store ask him to put some aside for me
not the butt wipes, but the sanitizing wipes π
oh God!
I need more electronics to tinker with for the next 3 weeks
I am in love with the scrolling LEDs... they are fun to play with
Are you planning to shut down everything over there?
@light trout people are preparing for the zombie apocalypse here in LA
Why?
because people in LA are crazy lol
Oh.. fair point
fighting over toilet paper
like how do they expect to go through 300 rolls of TP in 3 weeks lol
Muuuuurica
Go big or go home!
Yeah, I don't understand the toilet paper thing
It's not like diarrhea is the big issue with Corona
neither do i
it happened last year when the earthquakes hit
people started stocking up on water and TP
youd think they would still have their supply still
TP has more applications, then just wiping your ass @clear ferry
You can use it as isolation, to get a fire started, something for the kids to play with π€·
@light trout you know this from your extensive experience with kids and pyromancy? 
I decline to answer
NHL kinda had to since CALI was about to make it so 3 teams couldn't play home games
did a player get it like the nba?
not yet, but i think a NBA star catching it was enough to tip the NHL over as well
"oh shit, if it can happen to them"
ah yea cuz they typically share the same arena
yup
man can you imagine if this happened like 2 months ago?
how would america react to super bowl being canceled like that
lol
βThe NHL has been attempting to follow the mandates of health experts and local authorities, while preparing for any possible developments without taking premature or unnecessary measures. However, following last nightβs news that an NBA player has tested positive for coronavirus β and given that our leagues share so many facilities and locker rooms and it now seems likely that some member of the NHL community would test positive at some point β it is no longer appropriate to try and continue to play games at this time.
- NHL commissioner Gary Bettman
All the people with tickets would just get together and all get the virus at the same time so they wouldn't have to worry about it at the event and everyone coughing would just add to the noise...
my friend was lucky enough to make it to a kings game last night
is he coughing yet?
haha
did he/she win?
kings won i think
That is sports?
kings vs sens
so the 2nd worst team in the league vs the 3rd worst
someone had to win
and the kings did
Norwegian prime minister and minister of health handshake situation after corona briefing - https://imgur.com/axvh49F.gif
@shy comet the good? news of the delay though, any players who are injured get some time to recover. Also, players to might have been out for the rest of the season could have a chance to come back in now
yea for sure
Rumor has it they're going to tell everyone at my workplace to work from home if able
Problem is not everyone has laptops...
they should hand them out
I'm thinking they might. I know they've got extras but I'm not sure how many
I work in the construction industry so I'm wondering if operations in some divisions will be suspended
Yeah, I'm expecting my employer to adopt a similar policy soon, though at least we've all got laptops...
And, to be honest, most of us work from home/other non-office locations at times
I can already picture a particular order of things being suspended
Can you draw it for us tedi?
my company jsut asked everyone in nyc to work from home....but apparently some peopel still want to go in
Wait... They want to meet other folks?
Social distancing will be a new normal
i guess so lol
yeah, got the "consider working from home" order
i'm permanent WFH though, so easy enough for me
I'm glad I don't have any interest in stocks these days
The WFH stuff is perfect for me now
Need to catch up on stuff at home anyway
would be a great time to get started here though
yea ive been WFH for years now
I'd go crazy in two months.
https://thenextweb.com/shareables/2020/03/12/pornhub-free-italy-coronavirus/ get ready for tons of italian babies born in 2021
Then I'd have to deal with you twats all day

TEDDI
I have now started eating the twizzlers
The last of your cherry gifts
That's what you get for putting your containers everywhere
Like a virtualization slag 
thats what happens when you have a home invasion, on the floor with a gun pressed to your head
the PTSD stress kinda kills the immune system
Whaaaat
I think we are moving next week, way too freaked out to stay here
This is why I like living in a country where guns aren't normal...
yah.... looks like this complex failed to mention after their background check that the previous cuban guy had 13 arrest records and was on the government list
hello lots of therapy soon and drugs
already on drugs or I cant function with being hyper aware
I think I have heard of two cases ever in Norway where that has happened, and both were mental patients
every day, I want to move there more and more
DOIT
@clear ferry and how are said twizzlers?
We do have a lot of mental people here. Everyday fucking tired of school shootings somewhere
fucking drug lords
I'm looking forward to new version of HA - looks like some good updates to homekit controller coming soon
YEAH BOIIIIIIIIIIIII
I have successfully crashed the LED matrix - information overload crashed it
@scenic radish ok, the lingering taste was meh, my favourites are still the cherry sours
Yeah I'll have to pick up some of those when I go ||panic|| shopping today
There was Gardai called to a Lidl earlier one to sort out the crowd.
Oooooooo
l@last plaza like what?
He fork bombed it
ha homekit

Oh. @brisk glen HK controller is local push now where supported by devices
@scenic radish is the man that is running the beta!
And it's async now too
I connected it to HK controller a long time ago
Now it's even better with local push
So does that mean Home will know the status of devices like google does?
I made a custom version of HK controller with a lower scan interval (10 sec instead of 60) because I needed more precision
Now I don't need that
What do you mean @green inlet?
Local push and Aysnc. What does that mean?
HomeKit controller was local polling only until 107 beta 0
It also only allowed one update at a time, now parallel updates are possible with async
@green inlet there are four different types of modes - cloud poll, cloud push, local poll, local push. polling is usually interval based, push means instant updates!
local is always better and faster than cloud
Polling == home assistant requests device updates at a set interval
Push == device sends updates as they're available

Yes....thatβs what I meant. That just recently got added with google right.
So you can ask Siri the status of a device and it will know it?
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Sorry to hear you got hit @brisk glen
shit happens.. should heal in time as long as I can keep my wife grounded
she is really messed up
On a positive side. Not sure where you live, but getting corona while the medical system is not over taxed is beneficial. If I knew I was going to get it, I would want it early on
While they don't know how to treat it yet 
No treatment for 12-18 months. Just want to be able to be seen and have symptoms tended too and not be 18th in line if something life threatening
Water, food, all the other things people are worried about....means not much to me.....an over taxed health care scares the crap out of me.
Yeah, I hope I never fall ill in the US
Thatβs funny.....we have some of the best health care in the world.
time to load up on TP π€ π
@clear ferry If you have health insurance from Europe it works wonders over there. You give your insurance number, and they just sort everything.
my brother got me one of those giant roll things from Charmin as a joke for Christmas
I've still got 3 gigantic rolls of paper π
only solution to coronavirus so far is more toilet paper
@strange vapor yeah I know, but I still don't want to go into that mess
Friend of mine had an accident in the US and got carted to A&E. He got his phone out, showed him the VHI Multitrip Insurance number, of which he was on the cheap package, and their eyes lit up.
Private room, all the tests, and on the flight home they supplied a nurse to accompany him.

Speaking of medicals
His only complaint was that the nurse was a bit, em, matronly
@valid halo That's basically free here. You might be on a waiting list for a while, but for Cataracts it's not a long list.
@strange vapor yeah, my father in law had to wait 3 weeks for that, $30 self cost
The more important thing is that I had zero complications
according to doctor there was a 25-33% chance for retina damage
I have a collegue who left to go to a startup. He lasted 6 months before he came back.
He has two daughters with Diabetes, and the health insurance with work just covered it, the startup simply didn't have health insurance.
(He's over in California)
Ha. I know a guy who married his second wife just for her insurance
I'm glad I started a new job this tuesday
I can afford to pay my insurance fees
π
I'd have to be a full timer if I wanted insurance from the company.
@green inlet He needed two wifes for proper insurance?!
Insurance fees 
Let me tell you more about my dystopia
according to what I see. The procedure itself bill was 10,000 dollars.
Who would want to deal with TWO women just for insurance
@valid halo The thing is, those prices are bloody nuts. The same procedures cost a lot less in the rest of the developed world!
Yeah I've heard the stories
You can fly to another country. Get work done. and fly back
and STILL save moneyt
@strange vapor the rest part is skippable 
@clear ferry I was being charitable!

Yea, those arenβt the countries they are talking about. Someone pays for your health care. More than likely your taxes

What's the cost of a Covid-19 test in the US? Still ~$3k ???
I know my insurance company says they're waiving copays for testing for COVID19
so I can get tested without becoming more in debt
@strange vapor and @clear ferry , what do you guys pay in taxes on day to day purchase?
10% to 21% depending on the product.
Same here, but the end price of food in general is roughly the same as the us
The government?
All into a central tax fund that's probably still paying off German banks!
Hey, free healthcare, free education, I'm willing to pay a small amount of tax 
And never be in debt because I fell two stairs down 
Likewise.
I just went to the emergency room a month ago. 10 stitches. Dehydration. Paid nothing
"with good jobs".... Thing is I know plenty of people who who'd think are in good jobs but don't, especially in California where people seem to jump through startups.
here come the movie delays
Never mind all the service workers who're on zero hour contracts and will be screwed π¦
I had a colleague with a much higher job code than me, he got 2 days of paternity leave, and had to pay $20k to have a baby, I don't know, he was pretty freaked out when I said I paid $40 and got 40 weeks 
I had triplets. Total cost, one co-pay
We can find examples on each side
Sure not everyone in Norway walks into a medical facility and walks out with a huge smile 100% of the time
Less than your 40.00π€ͺ
disneyland closing
ok this is new
food trucks going on postmates
grilled cheese truck now delivering via postmates LOL
I still can't get over Cheltenham actually running.
by the way, why does it say "white" toilet tissue? do you get other colors?
brown/used? π
I want to buy the soldering lead, so many varieties to choose from!
I had a dream. I was staying in a hotel and I tried to "improve" their room automation
And it failed and I had to call servicing and act like I didn't do anything
Looks like the hysteria has begun by me. Grocery store I was at today was packed
Packed with everything except toilet paper
@tidal bronze getting ready to work from home π
Looks good.
Iβm not a pro like you, rarely use the soldering - once or twice a year. Small pack of wire is good enough to get through π
For led home runs etc flux makes splicing easy.
I see. Found sra brand flux
Nice.
You'll use flux all the time
Done. Ordered. All will come at the same time.
From smd to joining wires
Ready to work from as well π€£
Sugar!!! π€
Get some helping hands too
That should last a day. What are you going to do after that @tidal bronze
Panavise and some aligator clips on coolant nozzle things
I got helping hands with magnifying lens - the whole kit.
Yep. Alligator clips and all. Along with soldering mat.
@last plaza going back to the British store tomorrow, sold out today. I only like very few US made candy.
I already have two soldering units at home. I have been using flux so far. This time I am thinking to pass on flux as the lead has built in flux. Guess that is not enough.
My brother got me hooked to the British candy 20+ odd years ago. I still crave for them.
Yep they simply taste much better. Rather better sugar
You mean βproperβ sugar π
Exactamundo!
I also ordered a bunch of esp8266, individually addressable led strip (5m). That should keep me busy for a couple of days next week.
Right on. WLED days π
I need to play around with neopixels
Finally completed 9th season of curb your enthusiasm today. All caught up. Ready for next season
I canβt wait. LD is. Magician when it comes to comedy.
I saw the coffee shop trailers - canβt wait
He makes this custom urinal, you gotta see that. HA all over
I can only imagine!
Bathroom LD style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEIzNrdRZYQ
Epic
I designed a WLED shield for WemosD1 mini
takes 12V in, takes care of level shifting and all that
@slim vortex ordered some boards from the fab house but I haven't heard back about how it worked yet π
Real question is where is everybody?
Was ususal friday morning shopping activity
nuts think alike so not every day do nuts shop
lemmings.

Pepe, is there anything he can't do

I think the idea is to do a temp lockdown for 30 days and hope everyone who has it can't reach anyone else who dosen't and it fades out. but instead of saying that's thier plan they shut down some things that cause some companies and people to panic and lockdown then a week later do something else that causes other companies and people to panic and lockdown lol
Government here has said they will fund small companies to avoid bankruptcy during the lockdown
there should be a pre-plan in place anytime a "pandemic" is announced
no idea what they doing for the companies here that can't do everything (or anything) online
the mom and pop small buisnesses are gonna hurt the most
they call those "freedom" jobs
you actually only "work" 1/3 of your shift, spend another third complaining about the pay or the work environment and spend the last third on breaks/eating/bullshitting with co-workers
Last 30 minutes before hometime, so bored
Don't think we're gonna get quarantined, but with how quickly things are moving - who knows!
Whole country went on lockdown here, all schools / childcare shut down for 2-4 weeks, government offices for atleast 1-2 weeks and all gatherings of more than 50 people are prohibited
Yeah, I imagine at some point next week schools will be shut/public transport will stop. Will be interesting.
just watched a video of an Italian doctor explaining the effects of covid-19 and what they are using to treat patients with it and he said they use HIV drugs lol
Makes sense when you think about it
makes me wonder if them trying various stuff is why italy went the way it did
I wonder if I have to pay for childcare if it gets locked down
Knowing Australia, probably
I'm pretty sure the reason Italy is the way it is is their culture of closeness between all people and the fact that they have a huge elderly population
Nothing more
@hushed basalt haven't seen an answer to that here yet, but I'm guessing we won't be paying during the lockdown
I can't find an answer either
It's like 143/day here
Starting off at 1 day a week next wednesday but she might not make it
I pay AUD550 for a month, including three meals a day, but when she started she only went 10 days in a month and I only paid for those 10 days, so guessing I won't be paying it
Thatβs steep @hushed basalt I think we pay $110 a day. Centrelink will absolutely charge you for the pleasure of being quarantined
They what?
Kubernetes is now manageable from vmware
And you can run containers native without installing a VM to run it on
So containers native on esxi
Oh. I misread the typo. "VMware is doing it". I read "going out"
Had me worried there

Also confused, how can vmware be replaced with kubernetes?
Not replaced, but side by side
Managing any workloads from one interface
Public cloud, private cloud, containers, vms it doesn't matter
the first paragraph of that article is not only wrong but stupid lol
It's pretty true from some parts of the US, and a lot of big cities in Europe too
I've seen it myself 
just because there may be "some" doesn't make the landscape littered lol
Depends where your landscape is 
maybe indian reservations lol
Apparently a Texaco
a gas station without gas pumps? ok lol
@tough igloo centrelink doesn't charge us
Centrelink pays the centre then they bill us the difference right?
I mean what if the government orders all schools and childcare to shut down
If they removed the subsidy because of vacant days but the centre had to be paid by you. Roundabout way of saying they will charge π it was a joke because of how terrible they are
Ooof I'm β¬24 away from being upgraded a class with Avis 
@clear ferry uh oh, your endanger of becoming what the rental companies refer to as a "putz"
better act fast
Just a long shot: Anyone here working with VS Code and Powershell?
@forest edge no worries, I have atleast 6 rentals before the summer 
I can't find a compelling use for presence detection...
Like automated lights are annoying as they pose little benefit
I can just have a door sensor control this too
Starting the vacuum when you leave home.
Automatic vacation control of lights
@low harness I don't have a smart vaccum :/
@clear ferry I would just set that manually right
Turning off all lights when the house is empty
I also use it to send a message to the wife when I leave the office
@clear ferry I guess, still with 4w LEDs and the fact I turn most off anyway
I don't have HASS in the office
Me neither
But your phone still knows where you are.
But Hass knows I'm there
It also sends a message to the wife when I land at the airport
hmmm... If I had a compelling use case for that I would but I can't think of anyone that benefits from knowing where I am
tbh I have kind of run out of things for HASS to do or automate
NO
Phew
I just need to build more house I guess
and my japanese toilet only has certain wifi controls I guess I could add more
It also sends a message to the wife when I land at the airport
@clear ferry ditch that iphone and get an android and it will do that without HA lol
are those xiaomi robot vacs any good?
I always imagine them getting stuck,full and dead batteries
Depends.
Mine has gotten stuck once, between the legs of a chair with < 2 cm of margin while on a threshold. Normally it handles that chair no problem.
It recharges automatically when needed.
Do you still manually vaccum?
My house is definitely cleaner than when I majorly vacuumed manually.
I think there's two alternative ones.
You run it stock, does it call back to Singapore/Chinese servers then?
Yes. A sound and a phone notification.
If it's stuck, or if the wheels are lifted.
Or if it fails to dock in the charger.
The charging contacts are on the bottom, so they get a bit dusty sometimes.
how the heck did it get the wire on the inside of the bumper thing? lol
Looks like it realized this would be it's life now, and didn't like it...
No.
so you have to empty it every few minutes
Your house must be very clean
Ok, that is just human stupidity. The amount of time it takes to lift a roomba onto a counter, turn it on (at which point it has no clue where it is), to vacuum up what takes minutes with a sponge. I call BS. Now the robot vac that started shortly after the household dog took a dump in the family room and proceeded to drag it all over the house. Thatβs classic.
How do you think this global recession will effect tech jobs
Especially people looking for new jobs
My 2 cents. Tech will continue to develop and there will always be a need. My fear is the travel industry, the service industry, and mom and pop businesses
Short-term the economy seems to be taking a hit and that will affect all types of jobs most likely
It is early for the US. Are we 2 weeks from some sort or normalcy or 2 years.
lol 2 weeks
My unqualified prediction is covid19 will be a recurring thing seasonally until we have a deployed vaccine in ~ 2 years
I know right.....but this fear mongering is whatβs got stuff all shaken up. My neighbor was over at our house last night scared to death. She has decided to remain in her home for the next two weeks. Self quarantine. For no apparent reason
Well, it does help
Social distancing, yes, flatten the curve
this will be going on for longer than 2 weeks
I was just making a point
it's gonna take the remainder of this year just to hit the 80% pop infection they are predicting
The length will determine what happens to jobs and the economy
Yes, but normalcy is what will help the economy
Fear is what is tanking everything
you know what i fear? cloud π€’ type crap will see a boost from this
Well Netflix will run out of content if productions aren't happening
companies that were on the edge of becoming more online capable will finally make the jump
those that weren't won't
our society is already moving towards that direction anyways so all in all, much won't change
Commuting a dozen hours a week just to sit at a computer is just silly
There is a shitload resistance to working from home before this
so far it seems most countries have things in place to help small businesses pull through. rather those companies want to utilize that or not will be up to them
this 2 week lockdown thing during diffrent weeks here the US is dumb as shit
You mean lockdown or only 2 weeks at a time?
yea, diffrent companies have already started while others will be starting then you have those still on the fence that may start theirs a week later etc
it makes no sense
a lockdown period should be nation wide but even then, after that two weeks and people start traveling again.. guess what lol
I totally agree. Everything I read seems to suggest that some sort of dedicated social distancing is a huge benefit in flattening the curve and slowing things so we donβt over crowd the health system
Time needs to be on our side
I do see more and more large scale, and even smaller scale events in our town being canceled
last week here in KC all they kept saying was the st paddy parade etc was still on, they were not going to cancel it, they were not going to suspend public schools blah blah blah and in a matter of a few days a total 180 flip lol
Are you in KC Kansas or MO?
I was in KC Kansas last year. Downtown. They have an awesome open air area down there. The oil company or something like that?
oil company?
I forgot what it was called. Hold on
Yes. Thatβs it.
there is like a big open area bar etc with a bunch of bars etc surrounding it right by the sprint center
Lmao. Oil company was close
a 20-30's hangout lol
The scooters.....probable. Two people from our conference got seriously injured on them though.
that whole area was where you found hookers when i was a kid then they up and redid the entire thing lol
prob still is where you find hookers lol
Sure if I lived there I wouldnβt go but having it there for a week was awesome. Lots of smoking hot chicks. Hookers π€·π»ββοΈ
I only been down there a few times since it was redid. no idea lol
this is what irritates me
Alright, well off to the Corona Virus Petri dish, more commonly referred to as the office
so we had 1 comfirmed case like 2 weeks ago
then they go and find a 70 year old dead, that tested positive for corvid-19 with no links to how he got it other than community transmission
and NOW
some people are stepping forward saying they had it all along while roaming the city lol
so no matter what number or news you hear, it's always worse than that lol
Yea, stupid is as stupid does. There is a percentage of the population that just doesnβt get it. My wife always says, βyou canβt change stupidβ. I think this coming week, you will see huge decisions being made to highly suggest some strict form of social distancing
But we are the US, based on a constitution. We canβt force anyone to do anything
waits for the social distancing memes that have already been going on since the invention of the computer and cell phones to expand lol
As the TP onceβs subside right
lol
Be safe. Have a good one
u2
this deal worth it ?
I don't see TP link come up much when people talk about wifi cams
I have some Amcrest wifi pan/tilt ones and they're pretty decent
I would get something on 5ghz band regardless
Is this for a baby monitor?
@midnight adder
Ahh thanks!
I don't have kids yet (luckily)
But just to monitor movement in the street
π
Iβve heard Wyze cameras are pretty cheap and works well with HA
like 4 bucks less than that TP one without the pan/tilt. would fall down to what optiosn that TP offers like if it has rtsp etc
hmmm
CCTV has revealed the insanity of the #toiletpaperapocalypse. https://t.co/3Jr587tMVW
1460
2748
who needs toilet paper
kind of annoying listening to these doctors and other health care professionals skirt around the whole thing with how china initially handled covid-19 before they couldn't sweep it under a rug anymore
you can have a bidet
they praises china for being able to do a country wide lockdown of millions of people and then skirt around the reasons why they even needed to do it to begin with
I wouldn't bother with Pan/tilt for surveillance cameras
?
turret cams are generally the norm for outdoor
altho that says indoor, so that wouldn't work well for street monitoring anyways
couldn't even get the IR for night time to work at all through glass

@clever mortar I think you mentioned that the aqara motion sensors are good but the lux sensor is terrible. You're not kidding...it's pointed in the direction of my 3600 lumen dining room light and reports 35 lx lol
Tinkerer is away for 15h 55m 49s with a message :point_right: Tussman's Law: Nothing is as inevitable as a mistake whose time has come.
Yeah the sensor is decent enough, it just only updates even there is motion
Which is a pita
@scenic radish lux sensors in general are totally hit or miss
the ones on my plant care sensors are crazy
there's 2 plants pretty much right next to one another
one's reporting 7979
@hushed basalt it's a 13.3 sq m room, so that should equate to ~270 lx
and the other is reporting 2793
But it's also in the corner, maybe that's why
Ah good to know Brian
@clear ferry yeah I saw it only updates on motion. Kind of dumb but maybe a power saving feature?
they're outside
trying to get some dimming action on tediore?
are they zigbee?
Yeah
I've never understood the h8 on Zigbee. Literally all my Zigbee stuff has been great
you two should get that seperation operation one day
I've had less trouble with my 20+ Zigbee devices collectively than I've had with my 2 Z-wave devices lol
"2 z-wave devices"
And I have 70 ZigBee right now
there's your problem
if you rule out zigbee and z-wave, there's not much left
Z-wave works far better when it's got a good mesh goin
X10 the boomers will say @orchid rose
@clear ferry I found an X10 socket rocket in a drawer the other day
That sounds like a sex toy
Lmao
socket rocket
that's what they called the thing that screwed in between the lightbulb and the fixture
X10 Socket Crotch Rocket


crotch socket rocket

Good ol x10 days with house codes π
don't worry wifi iot mesh is on it's way to put the others out of business
@last dirge did you ever use B or C ?
no
@forest edge not unless they lower power consumption
I only used stuff in a single room
I was broke status in those days and couldn't afford to get a phase coupler
and the house I was in was wired REALLY supidly
@scenic radish they are, they also run on it's own network which can be both ipv6 or 4
Interesting
Didn't use a phase coupler as well. I still have some appliance modules and desktop controllers.
yea google it, there are a few around now you can build yourself if you wanted using esp
but eventually there will be actual products baked in
and since it's all wifi standard, you know it will work lol
just what everybody neeeds
more shit screaming over wifi frequencies causing more noise
now that z-wave's been opened, there should be more competition there
they better hurry cause wifi will kill the others
Nice, interest rates are probably going down 0.3-0.5 %
Haven't seen nfg in a few days, guessing all his stocks went to smithereens

Going down here as well, looking at another property although most lenders don't have enough man power to process loans and time to close is crazy.
he may have gotten the texas version of covid-19 also known as steervid-19
Holiday? What's that?
saw on the news that they don't know if this strain will subside during warmer temperatures like the flu does. so far it hints that it may but this could also be a year round flu strain lol
thought it was suppose to be the deathstar when i first saw it in the store
My hand carved Japanese table though
i use to have a coffee table like that eons ago
wasn't dragons tho
honestly don't remember what the carvings were lol
Some guy in Kyoto carved it for his Norwegian friend in the early 80s and got it shipped here, that guy died and the guy I bought it from was a friend of his how inherited it or something
$150
That table looks nice
is that temper glass?
ah yea was gonna say, I had replaced mine as well with acrylic
was pretty scratched up when i got rid of it lol
is that a desk lamp behind your tv?
Yeah, it is x2
Γ rstid?
Don't remember 
why do you have it behind the tv?
Yes Γ₯rstid
It used to be on the shelf, but I got a new lamp, and just moved it there, so now it is backlight
Who drinks bacardi? @clear ferry
Yikes. Hopefully not a close friend π
I made a little 3D printed arm for my friend's IKEA lamp like that that held a little X-wing diecast like it was flying around
What is it with people putting their TV that high up to the ceiling π€
Where's the single malts ?
holy hell quad, how did you spot that bottle? lmao
@forest edge he's a chronic drinker 
i can't even see it on the tv picture, muust be on a coffee table one lol
Lol
Time for some onion bagels and heaven
@clear ferry then you will like this as well π
I have homeassistant installed through docker, but I don't really use it. I really want to like it and use it, but I just can't figure it out even though I consider myself pretty tech savvy. I think that maybe I just don't get the purpose of it.
Bringing all your smart devices together and doing automation across them?
I don't have many smart appliances, but what I want to do with it is mainly interactive dashboard. Like for example not too long ago I spent good amount of time trying to setup the dashboard to show how much milk we have left. Like a simple button that also shows the number of milk cartons we have and tapping the button would decrease the number. Found it to be almost impossible.
Yeah, basically devices that can't talk to each other by themselves can essentially talk to each other if there's an integration for them
So I guess I'm just looking at it the wrong way?
Well another thing I tried to do and also could not figure out was: A simple button that would execute a shell script.
Or a button that toggles between "baby is sleeping" and "baby woke up" and maybe a gauge next to it showing portion of day baby slept and portion of day baby was awake. Like these kind of things
Is home assistant not the right tool for such things?
I know there is nodered dashboard I could use for such things, but I just have a feeling those are basic things HA should be able to do on its own as well
UX wise I assume that I could open HA > Create a button > assign an action to it and this action could be a shell script or a curl, rest or ping or something similar. But when I go to HA web ui, it only lets me search for devices on my network
Your use cases, very doable. Simple, no.
So my use cases are not something HA is natively good at?
Depends on how good your are at converting logic to usable scenarios on HA
What would be the way to get for example a simple button to execute a shell script?
Setup input boolean, automation triggers the script. Same for your baby sleep/wake.
I guess I just need to start thinking about HA in a different way and I'll get it eventually. Thanks for the guidance π
well they just annouced that The Masters (golf's 1st major of the year) will be postponed indefinitely
@mental moth the "what percentage of the day" part is outside of base functionality
Actually that sounds like a use for history stats @last dirge @mental moth
Line is block around Costco, crazy
Grocery store I went to yesterday was packed
People stocking up on water too, like the taps will stop flowing
Went to grab some coffee had to stop and take a picture.
Well someone here was saying that they get Corona outside and e-coli from the tap 
@scenic radish water will not stop but if techs don't visit filtration plants quality of might be a problem.
True
E. Coli ban lifted this am.....after I did exactly what I knew I would. Walked into the shower early this am, turned it on and immediately put my whole face right under the running water
Lol.
I just want to do my weekly shopping on Sunday. Why do I fear that ainβt happening
as long as you don't need toilet paper
Not going to happen
I saw something funny today. Someone posted:
I used to cough to cover up a fart, now I fart to cover up a cough
Saw that. π
As for water got my stash of Micropur tabs and 34k gallons, worse case scenario π
@last dirge is that the Costco on windward? 
no, off of Steve Reynolds


[OC] This chart comparing infection rates between Italy and the US - https://i.redd.it/apxxmlc4kfm41.jpg

Just heard his morning that General Motors sent out a notice that starting monday if you can work remotely, do not come in.
Most Norwegian companies do work from home now
Yup, it's nice
I can work from home for most, but my wife needs space and I need to interact with people 
lol. if i set it up i could proably work from home but i dont really want too.. Plus if i did id prolly get distracted more so than i normally do
I get way more distracted in the office
my office noise is the TV lol
The office?
Damn.. my contry just closed all of its borders for one full month..
naw just random channels lol






