F2
#the-water-cooler
forest edge
what connection you using to connect to monitor?
tidal bronze
HDMI only
tidal bronze
That's strange, had that issue with quick boot on. Use 3 of them but not nothing
Model? Fans kick in?
You can also try a bootable USB and f10
last plaza
Make a bootable usb and boot with it
forest edge
if a bios screen doesn't appear then it probably won't make it to a usb boot
last plaza
Hard reset and keep pressing F2 or F10.
forest edge
check to make sure the mem sticks are seated properly ect
last plaza
Last time I got the NUC, I got a fucked up M2. Such a PITA. Finally returned and got a dell power edge server.
green inlet
I am so stupid
last plaza
Do tell 😊
forest edge
it's because he didn't build an unground house
green inlet
That and I was using a hdmi from a pre existing device but I unplugged the end that was plugged into the TV. So my HDMI cable went from my DVD player to the NUC 🤦🏻♂️
forest edge
lmao
tidal bronze
Lmao
forest edge
sounds like a tediore moment jk
green inlet
Got so excited. Just started plugging shit in
last plaza
Happens!
green inlet
Ok. Now at least I have video
tidal bronze
Also NUC needs the Hdmi handshake at start.
last plaza
What OS are you installing?
green inlet
Debian
last plaza
Right on
last plaza
You are all set then. There is nothing more.
tidal bronze
I am in love with them. Also ESXI, thanks @last plaza👍
last plaza
I wouldn’t do it any other way!
green inlet
I have seen ESXI at work
tidal bronze
Yep. Now got vmotion across 2 NUCs
last plaza
@green inlet definitely recommend esxi
green inlet
For a Linux noob?
last plaza
Makes your life so easy move hosts around and backups and restores
tidal bronze
@green inlet yes. Do ESXI
last plaza
You don’t need to be smart. If I can do it anyone can do it. @green inlet
green inlet
Lmao. I am lower than the bar 😁
tidal bronze
We are here to help. Go for it.
last plaza
There are so many videos online to help you as well. Worth spending time on those.
Don’t install anything real yet. Try esxi and you will@not regret
tidal bronze
Yep
green inlet
Ok. Willing to play. I really don’t want to move forbidden topic over till the zwave is upgraded anyway. Will give me some time to mess with it
tidal bronze
@last plaza you should try cocksburn port, no pun intended 😜
forest edge
imagine being one of the first people to go see a doctor in cockburn with an std and trying to fix your burning crotch sensation.
last plaza
So much to try!
tidal bronze
1 a day should do it 😄
hushed basalt
This is the sort of crap that happens when NBN techs touch your rack
Idiot split into a perfectly good cat6 run for no damn reason
hushed basalt
Yeah scotch locks belong in joints not racks
At least it was solid to solid and not stranded
But idiot had no business in the rack. All he needed to do was delivery service to the MDF so I could take it from there
last dirge
scotch locks belong in the trash
trail crag
hushed basalt
How would you join street cables without scotch locks?
forest edge
Nooo my Hulihee is not an acceptable facemask wearing beard!
last dirge
@hushed basalt I don't like insulation displacement crimps
green inlet
Ok, @last plaza , I got esxi installed and logged into the host. Send me some links please so I can start watching videos and understand what I have done 🤣
I have seen vsphere at work.....just was setup by someone else
I am forever thankful and amazed by the people on this discord channel. I am older so meeting people on the inter webs is a bit strange. But in a good way.
✌🏻
forest edge
uh lol
unless you been under a rock for the past 20 years meeting ppl online in one form or another is pretty unavoidable lol
last dirge
that's how I met my wife
forest edge
under a rock?
green inlet
Yea....rock
Lmao
Because........that is for another day
And a big plus.....if you have corona virus, we can talk without masks
hushed basalt
IDCs have been fine for me
And I've done thousands and thousands and thousands
You've got to use the right tooling though
hushed basalt
Using pliers to crimp scotch loks will give a bad experience
scenic radish
jade tartan
So lets say im a nub, suck at coding, is there like a scratch like block coding gui program for python?
hushed basalt
Visual programming?
jade tartan
yeah
hushed basalt
One could say node-red is that. It's javascript/node
But to be honest you'll run into a brick wall with node red very quickly where you'll need to write a javascript function
last dirge
I spy an E36
hushed basalt
Work or hobby?
last dirge
M?
jade tartan
not mine
last dirge
booo
last dirge
I had a 95 M3
jade tartan
buddy has one
i dont prescribe to the m tax, lol im poor
but yeah i wanted do use my arduino for something
iirc it used python?
jade tartan
o
forest edge
you mean something like https://www.codecademy.com/?
jade tartan
my brain has a system built in for active non retention of coding shit for some reason
so uh
is there a gui thing for c?
lol
forest edge
then dunno what your asking
jade tartan
ever heard of scratch?
forest edge
there is nothing that will write it for you if that's what your after lol
hushed basalt
Work backwards
jade tartan
it's like block based programming for kids, lol
hushed basalt
What problem are you trying to solve
forest edge
node red would be the closet thing visual wise but it still won't be simple like what your talking about
hushed basalt
You don't need python for any of that
hushed basalt
You can do a lot in just the front end in homeassistant now
#automations-archived will cover all of that
hushed basalt
You need to set them up as devices
hushed basalt
Have you tried googling arduino homeassistant
Or using an esp8266 or esp32
And esphome
Or just buying a temp sensor ready to go
Xiaomi, hue, etc
If you don't want to program but you're using arduinos.
You can also use a raspberry pi zero with node red if you want something more point and click
But your problem is : you want to run scripts based off temperature and humidity values
But you've gone alll the way to the wrong side, and playing with arduinos for some reason
jade tartan
people here suggested it
hushed basalt
People like to build their own toasters
Doesn't mean they should
I would figure out what you need then work backwards
Google temperature sensors homeassistant and go with whatever looks most common and easy to do
clear ferry
forest edge
the pedo has arrived
clear ferry
clear ferry
Brb drive 220miles to customer site
clear ferry
360ish km 
clear ferry
I'm pretty sure people who enjoy asmr have some sort of mild brain damage, because I just listened to some and I just feel pissed
forest edge
How Tediore came into this world. https://youtu.be/GfQ-2f2llRw
clear ferry
He wasn't built using docker-compose ?
hushed basalt
Infrastructure as code
clear ferry
clear ferry
Someone mentioned a while back about security bits for stuff, and I mentioned we just sell the bits over the counter here
$8
low harness
I got one of those kits too. Amazing that you can even manufacture a 2 mm part with 3 mm tolerances.
The hole in the second and third largest hex bits aren't even centered.
clear ferry
Just some American didn't believe me when I mentioned we sell them over the counter 😂
strange vapor
Go me!! *** stack smashing detected ***: <unknown> terminated
@clear ferry I have a few of those sets 😄
clear ferry
Encountering snow for the first time in two months
hushed basalt
Does he think security bits are restricted tools or something
rain swift
they will be soon enough lmao the world is turning into a nanny state
claim public safety, think of the children, blah blah blah.
brisk glen
Ram prices have dropped?
amber bramble
yeah i was looking at upgrading the RAM in my home computer which is still DDR3 and was surprised at how expensive it was
hushed basalt
Older gen is expensive
Past a certain point
It's a "well if you want this stock at this stage you obviously really need it"
orchid rose
yeah, a few times I've upgraded my PC I actually got more money for my old ram than the new ones
orchid rose
memory can be weird like that. If that was only true for some other components too
amber bramble
I'm wanting to go from 16gb to 32gb... thought when I built the computer i used 2x8gb sticks so i would have 2 free slots. turns out i used 4x4gb sticks 🙁
hushed basalt
Oofh
orchid rose
it might be a decent time to upgrade to a DDR4 PC anyway at this point instead of buying more into DDR3
amber bramble
found a deal on ebay for 3x8gb sticks for like $50 so i grabbed those, will get me up to 28gb
orchid rose
you'll lose dual channel which is kinda of a big deal
amber bramble
can't be worse than paging out to a spinning disk 😅
orchid rose
probably not but in some cases it's a massive performance penalty. Depends on your usage
hushed basalt
I set up a fttc install at my old work today
Urrghh such a joke
Still using copper and rj12 in 2020
I felt dirty plugging in an rj12
amber bramble
my cpu is starting to show its age a bit too... i7-2600k... but i don't really have the money to buy a new process, motherboard, and ram
orchid rose
You can still get decent money for that stuff if you sell it. I sold off my i5-2500k, mobo and 16Gb of ram for a 100€
where is rj12 used telco? I've only ever seen it in phones and the last time I saw one of those was probably 20 years ago
🥶
deep portal
Hi there! I’ve just joined this channel, although i’ve been using HA for almost 1 year.
I do have a problem, a bit odd i might say, perhaps you can help me - at least point me where I should report it..
In the past months, I’d say in the past 3-4 releases, the HA is restarting my router.
Yes, every time I do a HA restart, if I refresh the lovelace page my router gets reseted.
I have an upc router (and deactivated the device_tracker )
HA installed on a docker - pi4
I’ll switch the discussion to homeassistant topic, sorry
sturdy saffron
down here in asia is still hot!...relatively, should I add 🙂
brisk glen
(Not joking)
fading zodiac
@brisk glen Is it because people get more resistant?
brisk glen
The virus..
fading zodiac
Yes
fading zodiac
Just today i was wondering, how come these diseases always come from Asia (SARS,now Covid) or Africa (Ebola).
Is it because of the climate?
brisk glen
Or what the fuck they eat
Issue is, this was something that mutated to infect humans
It was already there for animals
fading zodiac
In Asia?
I've been following this page: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 and this made me feel better
Just put things in perspective. Ofcours 82k are infected. But only 2,8k died and 33k are recovered. 2 days ago , only 20k recovered.
polar sapphire
Anyone doing anything with What3Words to specify the location of devices?
clever mortar
That looks like many a server room I've seen
orchid rose
looks like the back of my computer right now - and I just did the "cable management" today 🙂
fading zodiac
@clear ferry Whats the issue?
rain swift
On a side note, I ordered a netgate sg-3100 today, the old firewall at home is being retired, possibly office space style.
brisk glen
Heh, the oldest thing I have now is 2012... but that 2012 laptop was a high end back then costing 2k
Runs faster than those $600 laptops
Just as fast as intels core M5 series
My 2018 is 100% faster with more cores tho :p
rain swift
yes
clear ferry
@fading zodiac nothing, just renumbering of a switch stack and replacing one switch in the middle in a 9 switch stack
fading zodiac
ah
dusk lodge
Philips Hue lights are the funniest lights if you buy them in starter packs
hearty depot
dusk lodge
how was y2k a health threat lol
clever mortar
end of days
jade tartan
how easy is it to fry a pi zero?
scenic radish
Depends on the oil you use
jade tartan
or , do the activity lights only work if theres a valid image on the sd?
trying to get motioneyeos going on it
well see if this works
clever mortar
With any Pi the lights only work if there's a valid OS
forest edge
jade tartan
thx bud
using motioneyeos img for somereason isnt working
flashed direct with etcher
go to start and i see it's doing 2 blinks when plugged in then no act light
jade tartan
got it booting
booted
got in motioneye
but it doesnt see the pi's camera
tryed adding any camera it sees
and nothing on any of the feeds
so it doesnt see any MMAL camera
but sees 4 "usb" cameras
clear ferry
Noe just a five hour drive home..
jade tartan
hmmm at a loss now
idk why it would see 3 usb "bcm2835" but not see any mmal cameras
last plaza
We had 1 inch snow last night, schools are closed today.
sometimes I feel like they want to use up all their "snow" days just like that... it was a little slippery, but not dangerous enough to close schools.
last plaza
yup - it is not like we are "new" to snow. I know some southern states, they get screwed if it snows all of a sudden - like in Atlanta a couple of years ago, they had snow, and traffic stopped for 14 hours
clear ferry
Lol wtf
forest edge
still weird how many people have no idea how to drive in snow
tidal bronze
@clear ferry is that a freeway?
tidal bronze
LMAO yep if it rains 0.2 inches, drive slow and carefully on radio for hours 🙂
forest edge
they got snow in arizona I think not too long ago, I think it was the first time in like many years. was mostly around the hills ect not where people live i think though
tidal bronze
@clear ferry tiny, looks smaller than surface streets 🙂
last plaza
@clear ferry this is what I am talking about https://www.cbsnews.com/news/atlanta-other-parts-of-south-paralyzed-by-ice-snowstorm/
"99 school buses filled with kids were still on the road at midnight. At least 2,000 other students spent the night at school"
tidal bronze
Yep that was epic
last plaza
not much snow on the ground
tidal bronze
Your footsteps reminds me of @clear ferry
last plaza
our front yard - all the snow on the road and driveway is already melted
clear ferry
last plaza
@tidal bronze if you don't have the bird in that image, you can make people believe that is the flight traffic across the globe 🙂
all foot steps look like little airplane images
forest edge
@last plaza what camera is that, that not only has the temp but feels like? lol
tidal bronze
Ah huh, I see your fancy OSD sir @last plaza
last plaza
I pair my cameras with xiaomi motion sensors
last plaza
this is the code for OSD -> https://github.com/skalavala/mysmarthome/blob/master/packages/cameras.yaml#L848-L889
forest edge
oh you pipe directly into HA? no NVR?
last plaza
yup
last plaza
I have a NAS that does all the recording
tidal bronze
That reminds me need to get more licences for Synology and remove the HIK NVR at home.
last plaza
HA connects directly to the camera and gets the snapshot instantly in case of any motion, and I also store recorded video to my NAS using surveillance station
I never used NVR - just plain old IP cameras and NAS
tidal bronze
I have 6 on Synology and 14 on HIK
forest edge
I like how you took the time to put ascii art in your config lol
last plaza
I need to get a few more cameras this summer - will need to run extra wiring around the house
tidal bronze
Syno does much better on dynamic stream adjustment on mobile app than HIK NVR
last plaza
@forest edge when I open the code in vscode, on the right hand side, I can see the text overlay as a big font, and I can quickly scroll through the code
last plaza
@tidal bronze do you use vmobile app from qnap? that's not bad
tidal bronze
I use the syno DS Cam app. 10x better than HIK app
Live scrolling back and forth is awesome.
last plaza
I see. not a big fan of vmobile interface - especially when it comes to scrolling through recorded snippets
last plaza
that's nice! I finally freed space on my NAS last week when I got an extra 10TB hard drive. It was running hot for a few months and CPU was almost 95% constantly
ffmpeg does use cpu when it does the conversion
tidal bronze
you running ffmpeg for CC in the NAS?
Why the conversion. Should be 264+ or 265 native
last plaza
ffmpeg is the process that takes up most of the CPU - I don't think I am saving it as native - I need to check
tidal bronze
Update the firmware on cams. 264+ should be already there and 265 would be much smaller file size
last plaza
hmm... I am always scared of updating firmware on these cameras
I am using H.264 compression
possibly because of high-resolution
tidal bronze
Set the video mode on 1 camera to 264+, reboot, see if the NAS recognizes the stream.
last plaza
hmm.. let me check... 🤞
tidal bronze
BTW change to VBR as well. I see all are at a constant 6mb
tidal bronze
Yep
last plaza
VBR is already set
tidal bronze
VBR on the NAS side as well.
last plaza
I have ROI set up right now, I may lose that functionality...
I don't see a VBR setting on my NAS
tidal bronze
If you are using it extensively then ..... Technically if your profile is spot on, NAS can override those settings and change on the fly excluding encode type.
last plaza
see the difference now... you can tell which camera I made the change
rain swift
#BlueIrisMasterRace
tidal bronze
BTW let NAS handle ROI and not the camera unless you are getting HIK triggers direct from camera.
last plaza
yeah - I am okay not having ROI for now - it was a pain in the butt to set it up anyway
tidal bronze
264+ should reduce file size about 30%
last plaza
wow! hopefully there won't be any loss in quality
last plaza
yes
tidal bronze
@rain swift running NVR on windows ? 2003?
tidal bronze
I was asking whether it's year 2003 ? 🤣
rain swift
it blows any dedicated NVR box you'll buy out of the water.
I could run 40 1080p cams at 20fps on that box
and it's like a $500 dell
I'm happy with it lol
tidal bronze
Wonder why no one uses that at enterprise level......But it's good for you then more power to you
last plaza
holy crap, the blueiris licenses are cheap - up to 64 licenses for $69.95
I paid close to $75 per camera for qnap
forest edge
I don't get the blue iris fad
it's like a dedicated fan base, you'll see the same people with problems defend it lol
last plaza
if you are satisfied, that's all it matters - there is always some kinks with any product
forest edge
"my blueiris dosen't work but it's the best there ever was!"
last plaza
lol
clear ferry
last plaza
you could always blame it on windows 8.1
@tidal bronze all cameras are switched to H.264+ with smart codecs, and everything is functioning normally everywhere NAS, HA...etc 🎉
tidal bronze
Last time I used a windows based DVR 2001 before embedded linux systems started showing up.
last plaza
except... it broke the HLS streaming to chromecasts
damn it! let me restart docker containers and see if it fixes it
tidal bronze
Get the QNAP RTSP out for HLS
forest edge
quad breaks people's setups tonight at 11
last plaza
yup - restarting docker container fixed the problem
quad is the idea guy! he had so many ideas past years that shaped what we have in HA today - including camera streaming and all
brisk glen
its amazing what a reboot does
rain swift
who has problems?
I only ever see dumb people who don't know what they are doing have problems with it
that doesn't mean its a product issue
tidal bronze
@brisk glen BTW got a SHD to test at home. AP AC LR still way better on range. 🙂
rain swift
why don't people use it at the enterprise level? why do people use red hat instead of something else? support, someone to point the finger at, covering their own asses, you know this.
last plaza
Credits to Microsoft for democratizing restart process to masses
rain swift
I never have any issues with my BI, I haven't touched the config in years.
tidal bronze
Specs at 400' Vs 600' on LR
rain swift
machine only gets rebooted for windows updates.
tidal bronze
And there youhave it
rain swift
its not my fault dumb people have issues. 😆
brisk glen
yah...
tidal bronze
where's @clear ferry
forest edge
drivving his grocery getter through the snow
clear ferry
Did someone say proper enterprise hardware
Or are you just playing big boys with shitty SMB stuff?
tidal bronze
@rain swift it must be prefect for you but enterprise surveillance systems can't have even few seconds of downtime, forget about windows reboots. BI must be ideal for home use but far, very far from being the master race.
forest edge
they were suppose to make a linux version of it but couldn't figure out how
clear ferry
It ain't a proper surveillance system until you have 7 racks of servers and storage anyway 😛
Transatlantic, live in Europe, we all need some light, 
hushed basalt
It's a shame there doesn't seem to be a good open source linux NVR solution
Who wants to mess with a windows 10 vm just to record cameras
Don't mind me, I'm just building a pizza oven to boil a cup of water
tidal bronze
forest edge
lol there are tons of good open source NVR's
hushed basalt
good though?
hushed basalt
Ehh
brisk glen
hushed basalt
Jenkins lasted a while
forest edge
@brisk glen wtf
brisk glen
That little video sums up the new sonic movie
hushed basalt
@tidal bronze have you used kerberos
tidal bronze
yes some time ago
last plaza
@tidal bronze have you tried kerberos.io?
tidal bronze
👆 😄
tidal bronze
Best open source one 'I' have tested.
forest edge
something tells me he chucked it back to the chicken for them to kill it after he stopped recording
hushed basalt
I don't know if shinobi is any good or not
Kerberos looks like the typical "developer who does the design" scenario 🤢
forest edge
https://twitter.com/i/status/1232737168315109376 now here's a coronavirus meme lol
rain swift
Sure, buy an Enterprise system and pay hundreds of dollars for per cameras licence lol
hushed basalt
Sigh
last plaza
@tidal bronze kerberos looks good so far. only thing is you need to run multiple instances of containers for each camera and you will have multiple administration dashboards 😦
hushed basalt
:o
humble pond
@last plaza - Yeah, it all makes me want to build my own. In fact, I kinda sorta already started... but then life happened.
last plaza
@humble pond it is super easy
tidal bronze
@last plaza I do like the concept of container per camera.
humble pond
Nope. They did that so you can’t manage it all together without $$
last plaza
yep - I wish they use one admin dashboard, and multiple containers for each camera
yup - their so called commercial version pulls everything together and it costs 💰
tidal bronze
Money or not brilliant implementation
humble pond
The one I was working on is for the Jetson Nano I have lying around and builds in object detection on top of motion.
Was going to try and improve upon my current HASS image processing implementation and have it run native on a dedicated device, but also build VMS capabilities into it.
I got maybe 20% done though, so yeah. It takes time and $$ is worth time 😂
dull chasm
just steal it 🤣
hushed basalt
A NVR is a pretty complex application
It'd be a big task
I don't mind paying a reasonable sum of money for something that is decent for SOHO use
Blue Iris but runs in a container would be ideal
tidal bronze
It all depends on how much is riding is on the footage. There are some things that's worth paying for. 😀 Been involved in surveillance for a long time. People always want the cheapest wat out. When shit happens, that's when they spend the right amount on the upgrade. It's like having an alarm/fire system that's not centrally monitored.
last plaza
I don't understand how they want to make money off of an open source implementation - everyone contributes, only a few makes money. Devs are losers in this model.
tidal bronze
Then there's that
last plaza
starting to snow again 😦
hushed basalt
I would lose the open source requirement for a paid option
Kind of an either or scenario
But yeah businesses should be having the whole thing done by a managed service provider
But for home use, eh
There's a gap
last plaza
I kinda like that it allows you to integrate when motion detected - like mqtt, gpio, calling script...etc
hushed basalt
In film and television I used plently of $60-$150 pieces of software with much much smaller target markets than SOHO users that want surveillance. So there has to be some viability in it
Shinobi Pro is free for non commercial, maybe I'll have a look into it
Lol just watched a youtube on installing shinobi on docker
The guy said "not gonna lie it was actually a really install, I'd say easier than a normall installation of shinobi "
That's kind.. of the point of docker :D
jade tartan
got it
brisk glen
nvr with motioneye with 2 servers streaming from the same cameras
jade tartan
i use blue iris for my main camera software
brisk glen
unifi protect 😛
jade tartan
but im using a pi zero as a "spy cam" for the basement, cause we noticed our dryer sheets being used faster then they should
we co own the duplex with my inlaws
jade tartan
yeah in the process of doing motioneye
brisk glen
then have motion eye on something more powerful and record on motion
jade tartan
well im wanting to install motion and motioneye and sich, and then im going to just have it output into my BI installation
it can take damn near any ip stream
brisk glen
that should be fine
just make sure you x264
H.264 is hardware acell on the pi, uses far less network resources and helps a lot on that extremely limited io chipset
should be able to possibly pull 720p
jade tartan
lol
got it down to 800x600
and im getting like maybe 10 fps
lol
maaaaaaybe ill just try using a pi3b+
lol
@brisk glen how can you make sure to use x264?
forest edge
you use fast network mode on the rpi0
it sets it up to be a stream and nothing else automatically
jade tartan
that in the config?
forest edge
oh if you didn't install motioneyeos then your boned
jade tartan
i used rasbian with motioneye on top
forest edge
yup gl
forest edge
it's catered for it
jade tartan
ill try again then
i had it installed earlyer
camera wasnt being recognized
so maybe now it's working in raspbian
i can use meos
ill try
forest edge
if the camera is plugged in while the os is being setup it should automatically set it up
jade tartan
yeah it didnt before for some reason
but it's working in raspbian so ill try again
tiny img at like 60 mb
compared to full rasp
hmm, gets warm dont it, lol
so how do you use fastnetwork mode?
@forest edge
nvm
last plaza
@jade tartan here is how I did mine. https://www.awesome-automations.com/blog/diy-surveillance/ I use RPi and a web cam
I use plain old motion
jade tartan
well my only issue just now was the fps was horrid
so im wondering if i just use a pi 3b+ if that would just be better
last plaza
Must be camera limitation. One of my old web cam is limited in FPS, and another is limited in resolution.
jade tartan
1080p30
forest edge
is it not a csi camera?
jade tartan
is
last plaza
Could be rather than must be 😊
forest edge
then fast network is what you want
jade tartan
i did
fucked something up though, LOL
cause it rebooted and i see nothing on the ip now
it's connected but no http server is poping up
forest edge
well i got 3 of them running 1080p at 30 fps all day long so I know it can do it 😉
jade tartan
on a zero?
forest edge
rpi0 w
forest edge
well if it's the first variation of the csi camera then that would be the issue as well lol
first camera modules they came out with were junk
forest edge
yup
anything under a v2 were bad
you still want to use fast network mode but you won't get no high res with decent fps
do like a 1024x720 or something
with like 25 fps
jade tartan
hmm
cause this isnt the official one i dont think
that one
uhhh
so i put in the google.com,500,5000, and sich it was empty
whats the motion binary fields default value?
jade tartan
so it looking like that is fine?
cause thats how it was when i started
i clicked FNC tho
but the reds were there
forest edge
did it have access to the internet during setup?
jade tartan
i would assume as i did my wpa_supplicant file
and it connected to my network
can you check your default value for that field for motion binary?
i would assume the date shit really doesnt matter but the directory to the binary might be needed
forest edge
well you had a screwy install or something. that field is /usr/bin/motion
jade tartan
ok i put that in
apply
and now it's gona reboot
and not be available like last time i bet
yep
didnt work
forest edge
you got a screwy install or screwy something
jade tartan
reboots and then who knows, it comes back on network but i cant reach it through web browser
which makes no sense as it's a fresh img file downloaded
and flashed with etcher
and then put in the zero
makes no fucking sense
forest edge
not really not 30fps
by the time you factor in cost of all the parts and dealing with housing the thing, it's not that impressive at all lol
hushed basalt
Never quite got the point of rpi cameras
forest edge
well when they first came out it was the cheapiest network wifi camera you could diy
forest edge
yea not so much today
but it is one of the more stable options today
one thing I cannot fault is how reliable mine havve been
hushed basalt
PoE for lyfe :D
brisk glen
❤️ poe
hushed basalt
Unless you're renting, it's always worth it to run a cable
And a cat6 cable will still most likely be good enough for cameras in 2045
hushed basalt
I'm a licensed installer, I know what cat5 and cat6 can do ;)
brisk glen
you poor soul
hushed basalt
I haven't run cat5 in like 10 years?
forest edge
I wouldn't run cat5, cat5e sure but not cat5 lol
hushed basalt
Everyone just calls cat5e cat5 now
It's just assumed
But cat6 has more margin for error, and less IR loss for power
forest edge
my house is ran with cat5e cause the roll was free when i ran it
I get gigabit speeds cause the runs are short enough, all i care about lol
hushed basalt
Was it free because no one would bother installing it anymore
forest edge
nah military had oodles and didn't care lol
hushed basalt
Cat5e is 100m
For gigabit
Which is shitloads
Bigger than any realistic run in a house
hushed basalt
Cat6 is also 100m at gigabit
forest edge
not 100% what my longest run is but it's nowhere near over 300ft and it's not 100% stable
hushed basalt
Hence the cat6 having more margin for error
For installer error :D
Crimping, kinking, tight bends, lousy connectors, long jacket strip length, cross talk, interference
All things that take a stab at the performance
Which is why I would never recommend cat6 for 10gbe
Especially without proper certification
hushed basalt
How would you know
forest edge
and my shit is intertwined with power romex and ran behind microwaves lol
I've tested my lines several times
hushed basalt
With what?
forest edge
I have an old cable signal tester
reads the noise levels
and my cat5e has little shielding
hushed basalt
You have shielded cat5e?
forest edge
the whole interference thing is overrated
the inner core has a liner yes
pretty sure it's shielding, maybe it's just for pull strength lol
forest edge
I don't recall foil, which is why i'm thinking it's not shielding, i recall a fiber like sheething
I don't have a piece that dosen't have an end crimped on
to look
only regret is I wish I had ran lines to way more places than I did
cause I only ran lines to rooms, would have liked to ran one to garage ect as well
hindsight plus wasn't really thinking outside the box when I did all that
hushed basalt
Can you run more cables now?
hearty depot
Looks interesting -> https://gravitational.com/blog/enhanced-session-recording/
forest edge
@hushed basalt nah everything is in walls and was put up before sheetrock
hushed basalt
@forest edge shame
Most houses in my state are double brick
Horrible for performance, but you can fish cables through them relatively easily
Could you use something like this to drill through the horizontal blocking
This is really clever too
forest edge
I have uninterrupted leads back to a patch panel in a closet. I wouldn't try and tie into another line even if I had one in an accessible location lol
hushed basalt
As in new leads
dusk lodge
Without seeing the actual building plans, and making a general assumption, how do mains circuits generally work?
my socket can handle roughly 3,000W I believe, with an either 13A or 20A max depending how the switches work behind the wall
but is that 3,000W for the entire floor, house or just the socket? how do you even determine a floor's or house's maximum wattage
clever mortar
Depends on where you are in the world too 😉
Mains voltage and wiring layout plays a big role
UK uses a ring layout, where multiple sockets in multiple rooms connect to the same breaker. Other countries go more for a direct approach (one breaker, one socket/room)
dusk lodge
I'm in the UK, so is that 3000W per floor then...? As a general rule ofc as I don't have building plan access
clever mortar
Check the circuit board
The socket is good for 13A max, the ring will handle whatever the max is at the circuit board
Some specialist connections, like for an oven or boiler, will have a higher draw, but you won't find a socket there unless the electrician was an idiot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_circuit gives a good high level intro to the theory, but theory and reality often diverge when it comes to house wiring, unless your house has been brought up to a modern standard recently (and done so by those who know what the standards are)
Everything you need to know though about the maximums is at the circuit board - such as whether you've got an 80A, 60A, or 100A (typically) main fuse
forest edge
lol a literal ring. thats nuts
clever mortar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_wiring_in_the_United_Kingdom gives a good intro to why
in 1944 determined that the ring final circuit offered a more efficient and lower cost method to support a greater number of sockets
amongst other things
low harness
Oh, so that's why brittons have to put a fuse in EVERYTHING instead of just using one and having a safe socket instead?
forest edge
its nuts cause it introduces an extra level of danger, thus the need for the extra fuses lol
strange vapor
Ireland has the same system. No more dangerous than any other system, and having the correct fuse close to the device is probably a good thing.
We also get nice 13A/230V which means we have drive devices with much much higher wattage requirements 😄
Just under 3000W 😄
Even in modern builds, it's still a ring ciruit, although these days it's usually a circuit per room.
orchid rose
them plugs are fugly tho
clever mortar
Yeah, but they don't work loose without a lot of effort
hushed basalt
Help! My wireless adapter on my desk is failing
So I need a good solution to get wireless on my desktop
Does anyone know of a good solution. Some usb adapter on an extension mount?
clever mortar
Network cable...
hushed basalt
Cries in rental
Anyone else?
British plugs are pretty superior though I'll admit
Having everything right angle flush mounted design, I'd kill for that
Better than everything being straight molded and needing about 8 inches of clearance from furniture and appliances
dusk lodge
Americans have fuses in the sockets????
dusk lodge
also my house was built in 2006/2007
but by people with no real building experience lol
hushed basalt
So is no one running a desktop off wireless?
dusk lodge
apparently Americans don't have toggles on their sockets?? that's so odd
@hushed basalt I did for a good few months
I had a D-Link 802.11ac receiver plugged in into PCIe (its still there, I use Ethernet now though)
last plaza
There is no point in comparing American cards rest of the world. Everything in Murcia is different.
clever mortar
For a start, it comes with extra
dusk lodge
Even before that before I had any wireless or Ethernet I tethered my phone (wifi) through a USB cable which worked fine even for online gaming like gtao
@last plaza cards?
last plaza
damn auto correct.
hushed basalt
If we could go back in time
We should make the whole world 240v 60hz with british plugs but without the fuse
Just standard circuits like civilized people
dull chasm
seems like i remeber when getting my degree the civiled people are the ones that invented alternating and hell dc current as well
dull chasm
i dont think you got my slightly smart ass remark 🤣
hushed basalt
Who are the civilized ones?
hushed basalt
.f2c 21
velvet horizonBOT
hushed basalt
Hmm that's cold
last plaza
.f2c 12
velvet horizonBOT
last plaza
that's what it feels like
hushed basalt
I'm short so I'm closer to the ground where it's warmer
So I have to adjust for that
last plaza
last year or so, it went to -20F here. that's when your balls will be frozen
hushed basalt
.f2c -20
velvet horizonBOT
last plaza
yup
orchid rose
we haven't even broken -20C here this year. It's been weird
the forecast for the night is -25 tho
rain swift
if they hadn't screwed Tesla we'd all be using wirelessly transmitted DC power, so, there's that.
last plaza
I'm short so I'm closer to the ground where it's warmer
I never thought that way, not that I am short, I am 6' give or take.
hushed basalt
It's a joke ;)
Although meteorology sensors are at precise heights, distance from objects and shading etc
midnight adder
Does this mean tat my 20 Esp-home devices are now a rather serius problem?
midnight adder
afaik almost all my devices in the home lan do not use ssl encryption 😓
rain swift
🤔
last dirge
your hass instance isn't running ssl?
hushed basalt
tl:dr
What was the gist of the vulnerability?
We're already supposed to act like our local network is compromised anyways right?
last dirge
there's a vulnerability in the handshake between the AP and the client that allows someone to grab their key
and masquerade
rain swift
so its only an issue if someone is in physical range
possible, but not near as likely unless you live near a college with comp sci nerds lol.
I don't worry about that type of stuff as much
that said I'd kinda like to set up something to send me an alert when a new mac address appears on my network
tidal bronze
As long as esp stuff is in a restricted vlan should not be a problem.
rain swift
we shall see after I get my new firewall monday.
clear ferry
@last plaza -20 ain't bad unless you're by the coast, we usually have -35c here in winter, I go out in my t-shirt, but if I go home to the coast -12c will kill me
Anybody else got logged out of discord Android client last night?
last plaza
we have a lake here - we get that "lake effect" drops temps even below
clear ferry
We live by the biggest River in Norway, we get humid weather in summer, but winter isn't much affected
tidal bronze
Vets should be regulated. This shit is unreal.
Getting an ultrasound done for a dog is not an easy task.
tidal bronze
All of my dogs got insurance. That's not the issue it's the practice.
2 days and the bill so far is $4800
rain swift
pow
dull chasm
i have been throu so many struggles with wifes cancer and etc .....i just have only given hope to having enough money each payday to make it
tidal bronze
Honestly the pet insurance is a joke. Much better to put money aside than paying for insurance. Pay upfront and 80% coverage, yep it's little funny.
As they get older rates go up significantly. I think monthly for 3 dogs is about $300
dull chasm
damn that is crazy
tidal bronze
Given I have large dogs but still. Nuts.
dull chasm
well i have known the vets family since i was a child and he will do payments ....but if i have too i will bring whole check to him if needed
tidal bronze
Same here, they are my life. Hopefully cali will be the first state to regulate this stuff. Not let them run wild.
dull chasm
yep sadly a dog will love ya regardless of anything....they only consider what you give them ...you give them love and they give it back ......skinny fat tall short they dont care
tidal bronze
Been at this place since 4AM waiting for the internist, its 9 still not here. Going to blow a gasket in a few.
dull chasm
no shit
clear ferry
@tidal bronze wow, the prices for vets is pretty steep here too, but I think if you have insurance they cover up to $10000 per year, which will get you a long way, ultrasound would be no where near those prices though
last dirge
what's up with the pooches?
clear ferry
Oh they have changed it here now
All bills are covered in the lifetime of the dog
Including cremation
tidal bronze
Got to do a prostate scan. @last dirge
last dirge
at least buy me a drink first
tidal bronze
@clear ferry there is no limit here. I am not worried about the cost, just the practice sucks.
clear ferry
The price appears to be a one time payment here, the most expensive dog is $550 for lifetime insurance
last dirge
Norway sounds pretty awesome
clear ferry
@tidal bronze but that is true for anything medical related over there 👍
Norway sounds pretty awesome
@last dirge
Come on over
We love nerds, you can work with @light trout doing code
tidal bronze
@clear ferry sadly yes. Damn leeches
last plaza
the guy who cuts my hair just spent $4,000 on his cat - the cat drank bleach in the laundry room when he is not home. How the heck one can afford to spend that much money on the pets!
tidal bronze
I have hip replacement coming up for a rescue 12k
clear ferry
You guys get hair cuts ? 
last plaza
😮
rain swift
how many medical advances come out of norway though?
clear ferry
@rain swift quite a few
rain swift
usually these socialist medicine countries get all of their innovation from us.
clear ferry
last plaza
medical field is an extremely complex subject - regulations are not great. If you are a middle class or lower, you are screwed anyway
last dirge
medical advances funded by government grants that get exclusive patents to rake patients over the coals
last dirge
but sure, let's pretend there's a reason other than that for advancement in the US
tidal bronze
@clear ferry everything that matters only.
clear ferry
last dirge
exceptionalism's a strange bird
orchid rose
Does anyone happen to know where to get a 8-12" 1000 nit touch display for a fairly cheap price? There are some sellers in Ali, but nothing on Aliexpress and I can't seem to find any european shops selling these
golden zephyr
I have such a stupid question
I'm almost embarrassed to ask
Will the button on this let me manually switch it on and off?
Going to install it on a lamp but don't want to piss off housemates with no way for them to control!
tidal bronze
Yea
golden zephyr
Thank fuck haha
Had this horrible sinking feeling "oh no I've messed up, they're going to kill me"
clear ferry
Housemates 🤢
midnight adder
discord newb here ... where do I find a message sent by a specific user?
he wrote me directly not in the channel
clear ferry
Click the left top corner
And the top button
All direct messages are there
If you are on Android 😩
clear ferry
🤢
clear ferry
You can edit your messages on discord, or this
midnight adder
I'll consider myself dead only when I stop learning new things 🙂 thank you very much from Rome
clear ferry
I'll change employers when I do 💩
midnight adder
may I ask for whom you work?
midnight adder
I've been working in the same company for 34 years now .. nwver stopped learning (and do not have that much managers above me eh eh)
clear ferry
I used to have 14 managers between me and the managing director, now I have 6 I think
last dirge
how much is a house there?
clear ferry
@golden zephyr living in the city 🤢
@last dirge way too much
Pretty close to @scenic radish estimate
For something that can barely fit 1 person that is
golden zephyr
@scenic radish where i live, about 2 million
scenic radish
😱
clear ferry
I considered buying an apartment in London, but I've moved on 
Living in the city is only good for short trips and for that I have mostly subsidized apartments I can use
So rather a cottage in Somerset for me later
@golden zephyr Kensington area?
@scenic radish I want to build a Bellamy like guitar with a kaosspad, let's make a muse cover band
A wild tinkerer suddenly appears and just
scenic radish
i'm not nearly as good of a drummer as Dom, but i'm in
forest edge
Hewlett Packard 🤢
clear ferry
Make it more enterprise @forest edge
hushed basalt
@clear ferry what's your server OS of choice nowadays
clear ferry
@hushed basalt personal or work? Hypervisor or bare metal?
scenic radish
🐻 metal
clear ferry
Debian, always
hushed basalt
Does debian have working local name resolution
clear ferry
You mean DNS?
hushed basalt
You know how ubuntu has that weird thing where it thinks it's special
clear ferry
hushed basalt
And won't use your lan's dns to look up
clever mortar
Ubuntu suffers from systemd though, doesn't it
clear ferry
I have no idea
clever mortar
I mean, the answer is, don't use anything that uses systemd... 😛
hushed basalt
Basically on every other computer on my lan, I can just ping hostnames or hostname.local
clever mortar
mdns
hushed basalt
And they take the dns from their dhcp info given by my router
clever mortar
mDNS is what happens when people think you need random reliability
hushed basalt
Which has my router as the dns server, which will resolve the hostnames
But ubuntu doesn't do any of that
clear ferry
I love something that might resolve hostnames on Tuesdays between four and six, if it's raining
Can I have that @clever mortar ?
hushed basalt
I can't even find a good explaination online why ubuntu does it
clever mortar
I'm pretty sure that systemd will deliver that soon @clear ferry
hushed basalt
Plus every "fix" i see online is a bunch of hacky hack hacks
hushed basalt
Get out
clear ferry
hushed basalt
So debian will actually do as it's told and use the dns server for resolutions?
clever mortar
I don't know about mDNS, no sane person relies on that
clever mortar
That's still mDNS
hushed basalt
Even without the .local?
clever mortar
Well either that or PFM
hushed basalt
I thought mDNS was exclusive for .local
I figured my router's dns was resolving it?
clever mortar
It might be - ask it and see
forest edge
i thought atx preferred macos server 🤔
hushed basalt
Lemme just telnet in 🤭
clever mortar
nslookup is maybe not your friend, but if you talk nicely to it it may help you
scenic radish
ARP 42 Who has Tinkerer? Tell Tediore
clever mortar
de:ad:be:ef:ca:fe @scenic radish
hushed basalt
$ nslookup norwats
Server: 192.168.x.x
Address: 192.168.x.x#53
Name: norwats
Address: 192.168.x.41
From a raspbian
clever mortar
There you go, it's the curse of systemd
hushed basalt
So debian doesn't use systemd?
clever mortar
I haven't seen it refuse to use the configured DNS server, even on Debian 10
Of course, it may also be a layer 8 issue 🤷
hushed basalt
But if ubuntu and debian both use systemd, and systemd is causing the problem on ubuntu
Why would there be a difference?
clever mortar
Yeah, but doesn't mean they're using the same version, or configured in the same way
tidal bronze
@clear ferry what's your mailing address? Got a little gift for you.
forest edge
eel jello?
clever mortar
It's another staple food...
forest edge
that isn't food
clever mortar
Help you get more iron in your diet
forest edge
looks like something that would cleanse your colon
hushed basalt
I still don't understand all this systemd resolvd stuff 🤷♂️
I think it's to do with single label names using LLMNR
Instead of JUST DOING AS YOU'RE TOLD AND USE THE DNS SERVER ON THE INTERFACE
rain swift
hushed basalt
I guess i need to learn all this Linux networking stuff
But man they make it obtuse
The native, fully-featured API systemd-resolved exposes on the bus. See the API Documentation[1] for details. Usage of this API is generally recommended to clients as it is asynchronous and fully featured (for example, properly returns DNSSEC validation status and interface scope for addresses as necessary for supporting link-local networking).
hushed basalt
@clear ferry I'm using hyper-v for the first time
Just thought you'd want to know
And.... it's already crashed
Sabnzbd amongst aws-cli and docker
Must be such a professional OS :D
hushed basalt
Okay so my mind has been blown
If I put a domain in my router, I can use hostname.domain.tld to access my machines
velvet horizonBOT