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wet pilot
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assuming company hits its aggressive sales targets. 90% is based on my performance, the last 10% on the company

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our eng department won that argument recently

clear ferry
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Which is good considering previous years were 3-4%

wet pilot
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sales has fucked us a few times recently

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used to be 50% on sales performance

clear ferry
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Yeah, we do soley on individual performance

thick dragon
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I wish ours was individual. Ours is based on sales vs plan, and the plan this year was fucked. No bonusses for 2 years for us -_-

wet pilot
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apparently sales missed big once and eng management got pissed

clear ferry
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I think since I moved up in pay grade last year I now have a minimum of 9% bonus

wet pilot
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from the next quarter on, it lowered their impact

thick dragon
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Mine is "up to 10% based on plan target and goals achieved".

clear ferry
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But I have had A+ performance grade for the last 13 years πŸ˜‚

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Up to 🀒

thick dragon
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Likely big ol' donut again this year 😦

wet pilot
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usually a sign to jump ship

clear ferry
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Shit was better @wet pilot

wet pilot
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if bonuses are missing, expect layoffs

clear ferry
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πŸ˜‚

wet pilot
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true

scenic radish
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True

clear ferry
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1

wet pilot
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tru

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not False

scenic radish
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!= 0

wet pilot
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1 = 1

thick dragon
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We're in games retail which is a slump anyway. About to be a bumper year with new gaming consoles though.

clear ferry
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Retail 🀒

wet pilot
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true, might stave off the bleeding for a year or so

clear ferry
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Gaming retail must be a fun business, looks just like a sine curve

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Or even sawtooth

wet pilot
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sawtooth

scenic radish
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tawsooth

tough igloo
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🦷

thick dragon
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It's actually more regular than that. Generally trending upwards every year until around year 4-5 of a console cycle, then plateaus for 1-2 years.

clear ferry
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That sounds horrible

thick dragon
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Cyclical nature of console generations, to be expected πŸ™‚

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Thankfully we've offset any downward trend by expanding into new, higher margin businesses.

clear ferry
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Server / storage business is better, we have master tick release, then tock 2 years after, and tick and tock

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And consulting through continuous lifecycle

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So we never have a proper down period πŸ˜‚

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More like a revving engine

thick dragon
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I think most businesses are like that. Any business that actually sawtooths/sine waves is 100% going to die.

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If the trend line isn't generally heading up, you fucked.

wet pilot
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even if it is, if you're still saw-toothing in the middle, you don't have long to rigt the ship

clear ferry
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Fun fact, most people who work in the department I'm thinking about applying for are mostly 55-65 years old

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I would drastically lower the mean age

forest edge
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65 and not retired? 🀨

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what a strange concept

clear ferry
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Yeah, WW teams

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In Norway you can work till you are 70 in the state

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And indefinitely in private

forest edge
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yea but most people don't want to lol

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atleast here

clear ferry
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Pff, if my father could work til he was 80 he would

forest edge
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work till you die from old age.. the thought..

clear ferry
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My FIL worked till he was 73

forest edge
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f that

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social secruity checks and vacations

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if your kids don't bleed you dry first

clear ferry
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I don't even consider my work work, I consider it a hobby

ocean mirage
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fuck working

clear ferry
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So I'll probably work til I'm very old

ocean mirage
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Some people say that working longer will stop your brain turning to mush. Thing is, my brain has been mush for years

clear ferry
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Brain?

ocean mirage
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The thing that stops my skull from caving in

forest edge
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it's not the working that does that, it's the remaining active lol

clear ferry
ocean mirage
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Work is so fucked though

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we spend so much time at it, way more than is needed to support society

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but profits hey

clear ferry
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I can work from home when I want, I can take a day off whenever I want, I have 27 paid vacation days per year, I have the time of my life when I work and I can basically change employer on a whim, I can't complain πŸ˜›

ocean mirage
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Uh

forest edge
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then the cloud shuts down..

ocean mirage
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good for you?

clear ferry
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Cloud 🀒

forest edge
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norway is no longer a desirable server place location..

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atx, "nooooooooo" files for application at NoraBurger

clear ferry
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I don't care where the servers are, if I have to fix a storage system in Antarctica or a server in Afghanistan, it's all the same to me πŸ˜›

forest edge
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I dunno, think you'd still be happy at some remote location on the Sahara?

clear ferry
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I would never physically go there 🀷

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They'd give me remote access via satellite or ship it to me

forest edge
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well if they sent you there..

clear ferry
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In this day and age I only opt to travel somewhere if it somewhere I want to go πŸ˜›

scenic radish
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Night πŸ‡ͺ night everyone

wet pilot
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boo

clear ferry
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My wife is in shock

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The baby is still sleeping

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It's 07:14

ocean mirage
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Interesting

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I have no use but its cool

clear ferry
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Agreed

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I can do it with my synths or with a volume pedal and delay box

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But I want it

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Similar to

strange vapor
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@clear ferry Got to mess with one of the Plus Pedal a while ago. It's really odd but fun!

steel urchin
orchid rose
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That Ring argument is interesting. There are some pretty strict regulation here in Finland about what you can save on camera and I could see how those would be illegal in a lot of cases. You can't legally install a camera that watches over the neighbors front door for example.

strange vapor
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There's a few countries in Europe with serious restrictions on where cameras can be put. France comes to mind.

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UK is just camera central though.

low harness
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Fake, but fitting.

hushed basalt
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Finally

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Have traefik working

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With oauth

midnight adder
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Hi

hushed basalt
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Hi

midnight adder
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Humans πŸŽ‰

clear ferry
rain swift
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the entire planet is turning into 1984 hell, and Britain has already become airstrip one.

clear ferry
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Makes sense

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It's my year of birth

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πŸ‘Ά

hushed basalt
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If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.

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Who needs telescreens and neighbours dobbing you in when you have big data, tech back doors, cctv, PRISM, etc

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Imagine if the Nazis had the tech we have now

midnight adder
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Its gotten dark prittey fast

rain swift
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and lots and lots of stupid statists who lick boots and identify with one of the major parties that they are brainwashed into following. I honestly think most people are too stupid and or cowardly to deserve freedom.

valid halo
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Oh man

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lounge is getting spicy

velvet horizonBOT
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The topic of this channel is:

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clever mortar
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Let's keep it clear of the banned topics please folks πŸ˜‰

scenic radish
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Yeah... lol. Easy bois

midnight adder
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ooooohh boooh! πŸ˜›

scenic radish
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No 🌢️ allowed

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🍌? βœ…

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🌢️? βœ–οΈ

clear ferry
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Prithee be careful

valid halo
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Can I just say y'all are pretty cool.

clear ferry
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Y'all too

valid halo
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I get to hang out and listen to you talk about stuff while nodding my head and going "mhm mhm" at appropriate moments

scenic radish
clear ferry
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Sounds like the story of my life in all customer meetings

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because I already know HE broke it

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now he's trying to shift the blame to firmware

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ammirite @clever mortar πŸ˜‰

clever mortar
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🀣

valid halo
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"So the firmware unplugged the wires and plugged them in wrong and then flipped the machine upside I swear. It's possessed by a spooky ghost" πŸ‘»

clever mortar
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Most amusing call I had with support was one where I'd checked the error code, found the patch that fixed it, and called it in. Support insisted I'd the wrong hardware for the error and that the patch wouldn't work.

Having applied the patch, the error went away. Support were slightly surprised πŸ˜„

valid halo
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πŸ€”

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"Is our knowledge base wrong? No surely the caller must be. Callers are silly."

clever mortar
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That was pretty much the attitude

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It took some badgering before they decided to humour me

clear ferry
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Never trust support, those guys are dorks

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Now, being in conf calls with the guy who wrote the firmware 10 years ago

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that is fun

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yeah sure, sure change the 1 to a 0 on line 43294

clever mortar
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Yeah, I remember the earlier days with Sun, where they'd rotate every engineer through the support line

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It was something else when you got somebody answering the phone and it turned out they were the expert on whatever it was you'd called about πŸ˜„

clear ferry
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wtf

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🀣

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that is hilarious

clever mortar
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Sun worked on the theory that engineers would build better solutions if they had to deal with customers

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Not wrong there πŸ˜„

clear ferry
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If you let me hang out on L1 support for a week, the backlog would be gone though πŸ€”

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I should ask someone about that

strange vapor
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I used to be customer facing at the last gig, but my bosses attitude was that by the time they got to me, I wasn't being paid to pussy foot around issues, just be direct.

last dirge
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I work on customer facing apps

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but I don't interface with customers directly

strange vapor
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Some customers weren't happy with being told directly that they had screwed up by the numbers, the logs showed that they did, they weren't paying for management, so I'll pass them to sales/accounting to pay for professioal services if they really want....

last dirge
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I'm the reason the guy in Office Space had to take the specs from the programmers and deliver them to the customers

valid halo
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All I did wrt customers was ask "do you need a box or not"

last dirge
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I'M GOOD WITH PEOPLE DAMNIT!

valid halo
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Sometimes people had thier own box for shipping laptops already

strange vapor
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@last dirge Thankfully I'm not customer facing anymore!! Well, I deal with internal "customers", but can get away with more there.

last dirge
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judging by my interactions with them I should've been a DBA

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you apparently don't have to be good at it

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and you don't do much

valid halo
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Hah

last dirge
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and you get to get angry when someone asks a question

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the pay is apparently really good

clever mortar
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Worked with DBAs, can confirm

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Of course, you have to grow a beard and wear sandals...

last dirge
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"hey, we have all of these scripts we need run before we can migrate code. How do you want us to give you that information?"

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"just however you have it"

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complains about how it exists

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"how should I change it if that's not right?"

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grumbles that it's not part of their job

stuck tangle
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infra guy here. can confirm on all accounts

last dirge
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@stuck tangle one of my favorite Homestarrunner characters

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@scenic radish is a big fan of Senor Cardgage

stuck tangle
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wow! nobody even remembers him anymore.

last dirge
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we've mentioned Strongbad-related stuff for the past few days

clear ferry
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DBA 🀒

scenic radish
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They helped me refinance my dreams

last dirge
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did you get a leg up?

clear ferry
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Five legs and an arm

scenic radish
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i did indeed

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on the pile. the entire pile

hushed basalt
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Wife got her new corporate laptop today

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Last one was a thinkpad

scenic radish
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πŸ€” πŸ—’οΈ

hushed basalt
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This one is some HP corporate garbage 🀒

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Has a smart card slot

scenic radish
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oh is it an E L I T E B O O K

hushed basalt
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Plus allllll the ports are all alone the right side

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Good like using a mouse next to your laptop

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No usb c PD either..

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Some dinky dc barrel connector

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In 2020

scenic radish
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3 1 3 3 7 B O O K

hushed basalt
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L33tz0r

scenic radish
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more like deletebook, amirite

hushed basalt
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Reminds me of CS 0.8-1.6

clear ferry
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In norwegian I say Fjasbok

scenic radish
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cool

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NOT

clear ferry
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It's a play on Fjesbok = which is Facebook in norwegian

scenic radish
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πŸ’₯

clear ferry
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Fjas == gibberish

hushed basalt
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Similar to this

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But no PD

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Had VGA and HDMI

brisk glen
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...

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i recognize those

hushed basalt
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I'm glad I don't work in corporate

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She can't even use a Bluetooth mouse

last dirge
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there's one of those in front of me right now

scenic radish
last dirge
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except it's got VGA, DisplayPort

brisk glen
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@hushed basalt im glad I work in corporate

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fuck customers

scenic radish
hushed basalt
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I prefer business to business

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But not 300+ employee companies

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Fuck dealing with normies though. I don't miss that

brisk glen
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what about a college?

hushed basalt
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Although some of my worst clients were corporate people haha

wet pilot
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i worked NetCom in college, that was fine. didn't have to deal with students often

hushed basalt
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Random digital content creation people, who were way out of their depth

brisk glen
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heh, with students its a well you have a shitty device, not our issue

hushed basalt
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I like dealing with people who aren't spending their own money

brisk glen
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use the provided computers

hushed basalt
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What if the provided device is a potato

brisk glen
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if 5k imacs are potatos

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sure

hushed basalt
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Eh 5k imacs are pretty potato ;)

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I used one for 5 years,

brisk glen
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I like the HP z2s

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its like HP got board and shoved a server grade cpu in a mini

hushed basalt
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Intriguing

brisk glen
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our best pcs

hushed basalt
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Depends on the workload, but I'm a fan of mid/full tower for editing workstations

brisk glen
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pcie SSDs

hushed basalt
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Saves having to deal with external thunderbolt potato garbage

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Give me that sweet internal pcie slots

brisk glen
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looks at his mac mini 2018

hushed basalt
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Minisas connectors

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120mm fans

brisk glen
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I like this mac mini

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a lot

hushed basalt
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8-12 3.5" hdd slots

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I've had to jump through so many fragile expensive flaky hoops to deal with Mac stuff

brisk glen
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its called use JAMF and be done with it

hushed basalt
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$700 thunderbolt cables, expensive thunderbolt to pcie adapters,

brisk glen
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tho... I do get windows server for free..

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I keep being tempted to do an install at home

hushed basalt
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πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

brisk glen
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then MS fucks up my work VM

hushed basalt
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I have zero interest in that sort of thing

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I do like win10 though

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Once you strip away the spyware

brisk glen
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I fucking hate win10 and its update bullshit

hushed basalt
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Eh I've never had issues with it

brisk glen
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sooooo many issues with it fucking up drivers

hushed basalt
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I guess I've been using microsoft laptops for a while though

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Embrace the updates

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Let the service patches flow through you

brisk glen
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ms laptops were sooo bad at first

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that surface tablet was a joke

hushed basalt
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Surface laptop 3 is so nice

brisk glen
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that go looks nice however

hushed basalt
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Surface pro 4 was very good as well. For what it was

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Go is garbage

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Too small to be useful

brisk glen
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a co worker had one, it ran well enough

hushed basalt
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What do they call those type of laptops

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They used to be popular in the 2000s

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Netbooks

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That's it

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Netbooks are hot garbage

scenic radish
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yeah those were terrible lol

hushed basalt
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The surface go is just a netbook

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Too small to be a laptop, too big for a tablet

brisk glen
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these days... I use my ipad and rdp on the go

hushed basalt
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The device is probably okay fundamentally

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But you can't effectively use windows on something that small

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If it was an android OS maybe

valid halo
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Phablet

last dirge
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@hushed basalt my wife had a Surface Pro 3 for a while

hushed basalt
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I had the sp4

last dirge
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it was really good other than the shitty keyboard made out of jello

hushed basalt
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It was.good except i cheaped out and got the m3 4gb

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I'd still use it today if it was an i5 8gb

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I did miss having a real hinge in a lot of occasions though

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And it's too heavy to use as a handheld tablet

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The 3:2 ratio screen is amazing though

steel urchin
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i swear to god, i fucking hate postal services

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a package literally came to my door, we were home, they FAKE rang the doorbell (i have video of their finger not even touching the doorbell), and now the shipment is returning to china

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it's already been a month of waiting!

scenic radish
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lol wtf

steel urchin
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wow did i get lucky.. i've called the post office like 100x in the last 3months, never once got an answer.. today, i get THE postmaster (which i've talked to before in the past, and it took like 3 weeks to get her number), and hopefully everything fixed ASAP

scenic radish
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the one you flirted with before?

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GWspenderThicc ❓

steel urchin
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i didn't flirt with anyone at the post office 🀣

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i don't really flirt flirt.... i'm a nerd that just likes to manipulate unsuspecting souls to give me what i want

scenic radish
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GWspenderThicc ❓

steel urchin
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lol i dunno, only spoke on the phone

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or you mean me? yes i'm :GWspenderThicc:

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lol

scenic radish
clear ferry
steel urchin
scenic radish
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Wow "free" shipping!!!

clear ferry
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wtf

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that's a pretty regular chair

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imo

clear ferry
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I love my backapp chair

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New it's like $700, but I bought it used for $140

clear ferry
steel urchin
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that's too neckbeardy of a chair for me

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but, the leap is a classic ergonomic chair... akin to the herman miller aeron

clear ferry
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expensive classic

scenic radish
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The Apple ℒ️ of chairs

clear ferry
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basically

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but I need it for safari

steel urchin
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sorta, yeah... except this one actually lasts for a couple years and then some πŸ˜‰

clear ferry
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I've had my IKEA office chair for 12 years πŸ€”

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it cost $120

steel urchin
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well... there's no way it's in good condition

clear ferry
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yes, there is nothing wrong with it physically

scenic radish
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no, there's no way

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it's not possible

clear ferry
steel urchin
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well, it's possible if it was never used

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but very few chairs can live up to that claim

scenic radish
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GWbruhPaiDevil NOT POSSIBLE

clear ferry
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I use it quite frequently, like 2-4 days a week for the last 12 years, got the backapp last fall

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or basically, it has changed a bit on the armrest over the years I see

scenic radish
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literally unusable

clear ferry
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must be

steel urchin
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yeah i've seen that one reviewed a lot... no way that will last 12 years for the average person

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most report within 2 years the padding is shot

clear ferry
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I'm not average I guess

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my wife has the same chair, she's had it for 8 years

clever mortar
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The Markus is pretty solid

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I've had mine for about 6 years now, still doing fine

clear ferry
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Exactly

clever mortar
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(it'd be doing better if I looked after it)

clear ferry
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I've never looked after mine, it still looks brand new

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I just removed the armrests a few years ago because I play guitar sitting in it

scenic radish
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warranty void

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what have you done

steel urchin
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lol right to repair!

clear ferry
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yeah I would buy 5 markus before I bought that chair you are looking at, but then I would have a chair for the next 70 years 🀣

scenic radish
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no it would never last

clear ferry
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🀣

scenic radish
steel urchin
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nah... i'm not going to buy it retail price

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i never buy anything at retail price πŸ˜›

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there's literally no adjustments on the markus though, so that immediately tosses it out for me... i adjust frequently

clear ferry
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no adjustments ?

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except the three arms ? πŸ€”

last dirge
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I've got a Herman Miller Embody

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think it was around $600

steel urchin
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yeah i was looking at the embody, but i like the adjustments of the leap better

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and i've had the aeron a few times in the past, do not like

clear ferry
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that atleast doesn't look like a regular $50 chair

last dirge
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MSRP on your chair is twice what the Herman Miller is

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have you sat in an Embody?

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comfy AF

clear ferry
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looks that way

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but I would still never pay 600 for a chair

steel urchin
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huh? no? the MSRT on the HM is more πŸ˜›

last dirge
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the fact that the entire back is articulated in multiple directions so it always supports you even if you're twisting around is awesome

scenic radish
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*farticulated

steel urchin
last dirge
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I paid half that

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new

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from a local HM dealer

tidal bronze
steel urchin
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yeah i mean like i said, i'm not paying retail.. but in the end, the MSRP is higher for Herman Miller's

last dirge
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@tidal bronze I almost had to have shoulder surgery because of a shit chair like that

clear ferry
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that is what @steel urchin thinks the markus looks like after 2 days use

steel urchin
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but i've had the aeron, which is the upgrade to the embody

last dirge
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you posted a leap that was like $3400

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the Aeron's been around for years

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the Embody is new

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"new"

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Aeron's been around for like 20 years

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that was the chair of choice during the .com boom

steel urchin
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yeah but it's considered the "less ergonomic and luxury" version of the embody... the added padding somehow "reduces the desire" amongst ergo-chair snobs

last dirge
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when companies were folding people were wheeling dozens of them out the door

steel urchin
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yeah, that's what i'm looking for

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here in austin there's lots of failing startups 🀣

tidal bronze
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@last dirge shoulder surgery?

last dirge
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yeah

steel urchin
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oh, that 3400 was for 2, fully loaded btw

last dirge
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non-adjustable arm made me hold my arm funny to use my mouse

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which put a shitload of stress on my tendons and stuff in my shoulder

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changed the chair, no more problem

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went to physical therapy for a while

tidal bronze
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I rarely sit if I do mostly draftsman chair

last dirge
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chair was cheaper than an MRI was going to cost πŸ™‚

steel urchin
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and i think i just found my going out of business sale

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exactly

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if you spend as much time in a seat as we do, it's stupid NOT to invest in your chair

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chair and beds are 2 things i look for best quality.. everything else can be walmart brand for all i care

last dirge
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I like to buy nice things

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so I don't have to buy them more than once

scenic radish
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buy nice or buy it twice

orchid rose
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that works up to a point. Problem is that things will wear out eventually no matter the price

scenic radish
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oh for sure

last dirge
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sure

steel urchin
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well some things i like buying a new thing of... i buy a cheap toaster because a) we don't do much toast, b) when it gets too gross i just toss it and buy a new one 🀣

last dirge
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but a $200 pair of RedWings is going to more than outlast 10 pairs of $20 WalMart boots

orchid rose
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without repairs? I wouldn't be so sure

steel urchin
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eh, clothes i don't care about, honestly

last dirge
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lifetime warranty

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so...

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yeah

orchid rose
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I'm running out of soles on my winter boots and I don't use them that much

steel urchin
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and i couldn't consider wearing the same pair of shoes for 10 years

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sounds like fungal jungle to me

scenic radish
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lol fungal jungle

last dirge
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do you not clean your things?

tidal bronze
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lol

steel urchin
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you can't clean bacteria out of a shoe

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unless you have a biochem lab

scenic radish
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are...you supposed to clean things?

last dirge
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riiiiight

steel urchin
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maybe put it in a vacuum for a few days

scenic radish
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i just let entropy take its course

steel urchin
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lol

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i mean it's your money, if you want diamond slippers, then do you!

last dirge
#

my wife makes fun of my parka that my parents bought me when I was 12

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that I still wear

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hey, it still does the job

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and I wear it like maybe 30 days a year

steel urchin
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i have a few memorabilia shirts i have from scouts trips as a teen that still fit.. i wear them around the house from time to time and my wife teases me about it

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but other than that, i hate clothes shopping to begin with

clear ferry
#

@last dirge I don't even use armrests on chairs and I've never had problems with my arms 🀣

last dirge
#

not using them is wholly different from them being in the way and making you contort yourself to move around them

steel urchin
#

Fast & Furious 9....

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No longer living life at a quarter mile at a time

steel urchin
#

ROFL in reference to the telemarketer video posted, this one has me ROLLING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6a0yvRV4pQ this guy is PRO

These refund scammers think they've got me for $3,000. Right up to the point where I buy "wedding gifts" for them with the gift cards they think they're going to receive. Watch the next call live: https://goo.gl/uhpWGT

Full Call........ https://www.twitch.tv/videos/496574335...

β–Ά Play video
scenic radish
wanton rivet
#

lmao

midnight adder
#

Good evening...

clear ferry
#

But it's midday

clever mortar
#

It's $time_of_day here

clear ferry
#

s/time_of_day/relative_time_of_day/g

light trout
#

relative to what?

clever mortar
#

I suspect it's more a relative to why

scenic radish
hearty depot
valid halo
#

<greeting not found successfully!>

clear ferry
#

love it @hearty depot

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the DR Neon strings are nice too

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I only use them on one of my guitars

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oof that E string is very low tuned

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the way it flaps around

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So long since I heard that song

strange vapor
#

I do like those Neon strings πŸ˜„

clear ferry
#

Aye they are good to play

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never played the bass ones

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but the guitar ones, I love

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I only use it on my Variax 300 though

clear ferry
#

installing node red feels so nice

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This project is unmaintained

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versions older than v2.3.0 are deprecated

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Please update your dependencies as this version is no longer maintained an may contain bugs and security issues.

#

Please upgrade to the latest version to get the best features, bug fixes, and security patches. If you are unable to upgrade at this time, paid support is available for older versions (hapi.im/commercial).

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feels really nice man

midnight adder
#

could be worse....

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you could be installing WinXP

clear ferry
#

you are right, it could have been Cisco, or macOS

#

WindowsXP is still cool

light trout
#

Even XP recently got a security patch

clear ferry
#

I flinch when I see Windows NT4 though

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but just a little bit

midnight adder
#

:shudders: NT4... that OS was the worse

clever mortar
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NT 3.5 πŸ˜‰

light trout
#

Vista... Please...

clear ferry
#

You can't ever have worked on Solaris I hear 🀒

#

Multipathing

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we don't need that shit

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let just stuff fall apart when we do maintanance

midnight adder
#

@clear ferry I did worse than that... I worked on AS400

clever mortar
#

Eh, I could (but won't) name a few things that are worse

clear ferry
#

AS400, jeees, OK BOOMER

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🀣

midnight adder
#

GenX plz πŸ˜›

clear ferry
#

I still see some of those servers from time to time

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2 years since I saw one last though

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but I still see IBM Z9 and Z10

midnight adder
#

Seriously, I worked with a mate of mine making a TCP/IP webserver for the AS400 that also handled SSL as IBM haddn't ever thought anyone would want to actually use it as a server....

clear ferry
#

🀒

midnight adder
#

yeah...

odd mason
#

Anyone know what's going on with the Harmony hub integration? Do we still need the beta firmware on the hub to get local functionality?

clear ferry
#

Why are you pulling in all the pensionaries here @clever mortar 🀣

midnight adder
#

Oi! I'm only 43... plenty of life in this old dog yet πŸ˜›

clever mortar
clear ferry
#

43 and worked with AS400, that is impressive 🀣

odd mason
#

Ah I didn't wanna flood that channel with harmony talk. I'll ask there.

clear ferry
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I though I was cool that was 35 and work with Tandem NonStop, OpenVMS and HP-UX 🀣

odd mason
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I'm 34 and work with as400

clear ferry
odd mason
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That's all the Manheim car auctions use

midnight adder
#

I started playing with computers when I was 12/13 building IBM AT/XT units... when a 50MB hdd was HUGE

clear ferry
#

Yeah same, started pulling them apart and putting them back together again in 89\90

odd mason
#

All of our new services involve using a middleware layer that basically takes data out of as400 and into modern DBs.

clear ferry
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Like 10 years before @light trout was born 🀣

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I know of three AS400s left in norway in total, that means there is probably 5 in total

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poor people

midnight adder
#

my first owned PC was a 486DX 2/66 with a whole 512MB of ultra fast ram, two 500MB hard disk drives

odd mason
#

The worst part is using their shitty green screens

light trout
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I know of 3 πŸ€”

clear ferry
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That was late, I had a 286 @midnight adder 🀣

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Then we probably know of the same ones @light trout mindblown

light trout
#

Probably 🀣

midnight adder
#

my dad had a 286.. the first PC i coded on though was a ZX Spectrum

clear ferry
#

Never had that, just a Commodore128

midnight adder
#

my wife just brought me a Commodore64 mini thing for xmas... talk about retro gaming!

clear ferry
#

no cool if it doesn't have a working tapedrive

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πŸ‘Ž

unique stream
#

hi guys. where do I post a question about getting ssh working on the hassio host?
(tried the wiki tutorial, but it didn't help)

midnight adder
#

omg... sitting there with the tape drive loading a game... having to queue up the tape to a set timer and stop it... 🀦

light trout
clear ferry
#

remember playing superman on the tape drive, it took 1\3 of the tape just to load

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then you could play 2\3 and have to turn over and load again

#

it's pretty few people creating guides for nodered without forbidden-io

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I feel like I have to invent the wheel myself

clear ferry
#

strangest tutorial I have ever seen

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he sits in his car for the whole video

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🀣

last dirge
#

@clear ferry ALL of his videos are like that

clear ferry
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does he live in that car ? but he has a garage

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so he must have a house

clever mortar
#

You can rent garages

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Heck, you can buy garages separate from a house

scenic radish
clear ferry
#

You probably haven't deployed since adding a server. Do that for autocomplete to work. angeryping

scenic radish
forest edge
#

wtf

scenic radish
forest edge
#

I take it someone gave tediore access to some new emoji's lol

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looks at atx

clear ferry
scenic radish
#

I just discovered global emotes

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Didn't know they were a thing

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Don't need nitro or nitro classic

midnight adder
#

I watched his tutorial on getting the Zmodo cameras to pipe to zoneminder to integrate them into Hass... I was sitting there thinking awesome!!! then i realised my camera setup is on its own subnet seperate from the main network and what he was doing wouldn't work.. 🀦

forest edge
#

ree inc

scenic radish
#

to integrate them into Hass
FORBIDDEN TOPIC DETECTED GWprytrShaqreal

midnight adder
scenic radish
midnight adder
#

god that's a creepy face...

scenic radish
midnight adder
#

yeah.. not any better πŸ˜›

scenic radish
midnight adder
#

Oh look it's KSI.....

scenic radish
scenic radish
last dirge
scenic radish
forest edge
scenic radish
#

*hilarious

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@last plaza i'm making sure to get all the images out here so i don't post them in other channels GWspenderPaiSmug

clever mortar
#

Creates an images channel, for @scenic radish and only for @scenic radish

scenic radish
clear ferry
#

wait

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we can have our own channel

scenic radish
forest edge
#

we should limit @scenic radish to only be allowed to post up to 5 different emoji's/images per day and see what happens

scenic radish
valid halo
#

should ATX get a limit on how many mildpanic and 🀒 he gets a day?

clever mortar
#

He'd use them up in the first 30 seconds

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(you're choice as to who I'm referring to)

forest edge
#

just change his name to 🀒 and make it so when anyone else uses it it auto pings him lol

valid halo
#

ahahaha

clear ferry
#

whaaaaaaa

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I'm what keeps you guys around

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you would be sad if I was gone

valid halo
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I would be sad if you were gone

last plaza
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@scenic radish πŸ˜‚

clear ferry
#
  1. ???????
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🀣

clever mortar
#

running on a Raspberry Pi Zero

hushed basalt
#

:D

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I drive a lawnmower to work

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Step 1. Get on the lawnmower

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Step 2.

valid halo
#

as far as I recall

#

motioneye runs MEH on a Pi 3B+ with HA at the same time

#

trying to do all that on a Pi Zero

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Whoo boy

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get a fire exstinguisher

clear ferry
#

🧯

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bido bido bido

forest edge
#

zero couldn't do it

#

it could run HA with some automations using yaml maybe even appdeamon but no other addons

clear ferry
#

you could run what you say ?

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can't see it behind all that obscure forbidden stuff

#

πŸ€”

forest edge
#

was a person in here not too long ago trying to do it

#

was kind of funny trying to help them then find out half way into the conversation it was on a zero lol

clear ferry
#

HELP, TRYING TO DRIVE UP A MOUNTAIN USING A FIAT500 WITH A CAMPER HITCHED ON

valid halo
#

lmao

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"Why can't I bike up this 45 degree incline on a fixed gear bike?"

forest edge
scenic radish
#

@clear ferry FORBIDDEN TOPIC GWprytrShaqreal
@valid halo FORBIDDEN TOPIC GWprytrShaqreal
@forest edge FORBIDDEN TOPIC GWprytrShaqreal

clear ferry
last dirge
#

is that an Isetta?

clear ferry
#

@forest edge looks like @valid halo dream car

last dirge
#

it is!

valid halo
#

Oh my god it's so cute

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I can fit myself and NOTHING else in it

last dirge
#

Urkel drove one on "Family Matters"

valid halo
#

perfect for escaping from socializing

#

"Sorry my car can only fit me Bai" -zoom-

forest edge
#

@scenic radish what the heck is that emoji on the end? i can't make it out lol

scenic radish
forest edge
#

looks like an alien or something

scenic radish
#

"real shit" meme

forest edge
#

ah it's shaq

#

I see it now, i couldn't make it out

valid halo
#

It's deep fried meme

scenic radish
#

if i had a celebrity crush, it would be shaq

#

and yes, i'm a guy. if i had to choose anyone to get a drink with it would be shaq

#

he is friggin hilarious

valid halo
#

Well Tediore I'm glad you feel confident enough to say that

#

I hope you get the chance

clear ferry
#

you would become a shaq snack

forest edge
#

he'd probably get drunk, forget you were a dude and take your virginity..

hearty depot
#

Here I lay in bed and ask me who/what Shaq is

valid halo
#

A famous (in the US) basketball player

#

was in some awful movies

forest edge
#

glad i wasn't around for that post petro brought up in homeassistant lol

brisk glen
#

when you read shaq as shia labeouf

hearty depot
#

Thanks - not to well known in Austria - but therefore you don't know Max Franz πŸ˜›

flat lintel
clear ferry
#

but it's forbidden topic @flat lintel !! 🀣

flat lintel
#

anything that I bring up is not a forbidden topic

valid halo
#

So how long until that name change trickles down to people asking for help here?

clear ferry
#

Oh No, Core, now I feel like Windows Server Core is coming back to me, PTSD 🀒

valid halo
#

I'm recalling the Pebble Core

#

the dead on arrival internet of things doodad

clear ferry
#

I never even heard of that

valid halo
#

It was supposed to come out with the last kick starter along side the Time 2

#

sadly Pebble ran out of money and they couldn't do it

hushed basalt
last dirge
#

Shaq owns a famous Krispy Kreme in Atlanta

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and a bunch of restaurants

#

the Krispy Kreme was famous before he bought it

forest edge
#

ohh

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so i need to retrain my brain from auto saying "hassio" to "hass" lol

hushed basalt
#

So I guess we'll call homeassistant core HAC for short

forest edge
#

don't call it that lol

hushed basalt
#

Just remember, Atxbyea is a HACk

#

I'm not going to say home assistant core every time :D

#

That's like, 5 more characters than I'm comfortable with

clear ferry
#

What about the stable version of home assistant core ?

#

HACs ?

forest edge
#

I'll probably get stuck asking if someone is running "hass" or "core" lol you watch

hushed basalt
#

Latest HACs

#

Hmm. I'm not sure the confusion will end

clear ferry
#

Agreed

hushed basalt
#

The only choice is to sacrifice atxbyea to the polar bears to appease the gods

forest edge
#

I liked calling everything hassio, but Tinkerer didn't like it 😦

clear ferry
#

I AM IOREK BYRNISON

#

HEAR MY VOICE

hushed basalt
#

No

valid halo
#

Oh man

#

I can't wait

#

This is gonna lead to so much FUN

#

🍿

clear ferry
#

CONFUNSION

forest edge
#

don't forget to add the #guides channel!

hushed basalt
#

I have no idea what iorek byrnison is

clear ferry
#

Have you not seen His Dark Materials ?

shy comet
#

that show is on my list of thigns to watch

clear ferry
#

it's marvellous

forest edge
#

ok i'm alittle lost on what channel is for what purpose specifically atm lol

#

chants #guides #guides #guides

thick dragon
#

Liking the new discord structure. Should make things a bit more logical.

clear ferry
wet pilot
#

@clear ferry that's a good show

clear ferry
#

yuuuuuup

wet pilot
#

Good books too

clear ferry
#

They say so

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Haven't read them yet

#

but the themes are interesting for me

wet pilot
#

Been a long while since I've read them

wanton rivet
#

My only complaint on the discord structure is that there's not a general chat that allows home assistant discussion. By the channel topics asking what everyone's favorite home assistant project is, generally doesn't have a home

nocturne berry
forest edge
#

@scenic radish you missed it. there was #Tediore for all of about 20 seconds, but you weren't here so it was removed.

scenic radish
#

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

I am disappoint.

forest edge
#

pssh as if they would ever create such an abomination..

scenic radish
valid halo
#

it was too good for this Sinful Earth

clear ferry
#

What about #teddiandatxsittinginatreea-u-t-o-m-a-t-i-n-g

last dirge
#

I'm gonna go on a blastin rampage

last dirge
#

the DBA: "hey, these things are all showing as invalid in the DB, do you know anything about them?"

clear ferry
#

Oh no, now I've been drinking three beers every day for two weeks

last dirge
#

me: I don't know what all of these things are but this function isn't used so I deleted it"

clear ferry
#

But I go home in two days

#

Iiiiiiim the drunktaaaaank

last dirge
#

the DBA: "I'm going to delete everything else then"

clear ferry
#

I think this is a wonderful project

#

The background for it is terrible, but people make a difference

clear ferry
#

Oh snap, now I'm doing Jameson

wet pilot
#

πŸ₯ƒ

clear ferry
steel urchin
#

woah i see some restructure

clear ferry
#

Nah, you fine brah

forest edge
#

@steel urchin all in your head

steel urchin
#

lol right

valid halo
#

thanks for sharing atx

clear ferry
#

Sharing what now?

valid halo
#

the trace an object project.

hushed basalt
#

We don't get HBO here

clear ferry
#

Oh @valid halo

ocean mirage
#

Haha

valid halo
#

O O F T

ocean mirage
#

I was doa mate

#

Never gigged

clear ferry
#

Yeah, I have very little gigging

hushed basalt
#

I'm musically agnostic

clear ferry
#

Only played concerts in school, at office venues and in Barcelona

hushed basalt
#

Wifeys family is deep into music though

#

Her grandfather had a #1 in like the 60s, her brother does FOH for a major band and her mother does casual gigs and performance for fun

clear ferry
#

I mostly just play in my studio

#

Or at the airport or train station

#

To my wife's dismay

midnight adder
#

lads

#

whats going on

#

did the channel names change? swear to god

#

few hours ago there was #lovelace channel

junior forge
#

NO?

#

That was removed/renamed months ago :S

midnight adder
#

da fuck

junior forge
#

Are you ok?

midnight adder
#

I think so

clear ferry
midnight adder
#

you taking a piss?

#

i'm dead serious here

junior forge
#

In a second, I've been sitting extending my time to go to the restroom way to long now

clear ferry
junior forge
midnight adder
#

thats not helping...

junior forge
#

ok sorry, will shut up then :S

clear ferry
#

I'm just waiting for Tinkerers reaction in 5-6 hours

junior forge
#

He already seen it before it was applied πŸ˜‰

valid halo
#

Change is scary

#

😱

clear ferry
#

Yeah, but did he react to it or not mildpanic

junior forge
#

yes he did

clear ferry
junior forge
#

he even made a suggestion that was applied in this change.

midnight adder
#

so theere was a change? you changed the name of the channels?

clear ferry
#

No, it's just you @midnight adder

junior forge
#

yep, 14 channels removed, 5 new ones. bunch of renames as well.

forest edge
#

I messaged him like right before all this over my guides suggestion and he let the cat out of the bag but wasn't expecting it to be today lol

junior forge
#

#guides are probably better suited in a forum

clear ferry
#

πŸ‘œ catto

#

Yeah I've had enough

#

I'm numb under the soles of my feet

forest edge
#

had enough? throwing in the towel?

clear ferry
#

Yeah

#

No more drinks

forest edge
#

@junior forge yes and no, current video and shorter tutorials would be beneficial in here just as much imo because a lot of the same stuff get's reexplained over and over and then you have those hours where not many are around where quick access to something like that could be useful to someone.

#

kind of like how the pinned feature works except more indepth lol

junior forge
#

Chat servers are not catalogs, sorry I really thing that it is unfitting.

hushed basalt
#

I'm yaml to write recipes

#

It works quite well

clear ferry
#

Yeah I should have dropped that Jameson, can't feel my nose or soles of my feet πŸ˜‚

#

I'm a cheap drunk

wet pilot
#

NOT THAT DRUNK

#

do another

#

DOITDOITDOIT

clear ferry
#

I've already closed up and left

#

If I did another I would start flaming Dell servers πŸ˜‚

#

Or Microsoft servers mildpanic

wet pilot
#

heh

clear ferry
#

Or anything that doesn't bear my brand

wet pilot
#

just flame Oracle, no one will dispute it

forest edge
#

your brand? the peddo-x86? lol

clear ferry
#

I do that three times a week already

#

@forest edge JodieScronch

#

If it ain't running on hpe hardware it can eat bananas y'all

forest edge
#

my dreams have been crushed.

#

atleast dinner is here lol

clear ferry
wet pilot
#

EMC

clear ferry
#

🀒

#

Shut your pi-hole

#

🀒

#

Or I'll join voice chat

last dirge
#

nobody ever joins voice chat

clear ferry
#

I have three times this week

#

And nobody joins me

wet pilot
#

it hurts my brain enough reading what some of y'all say, don't need to hear it too

tidal bronze
#

So you special or what?

last dirge
#

I don't even see the voice channel

clear ferry
#

My sexy Georgia accent you say?

wet pilot
#

i think it got killed

clear ferry
#

Noooooooooooooooooo

#

@junior forge

junior forge
clear ferry
#

@mΓ₯ds maybe, to honour @ocean mirage

junior forge
#

Just checked, correct πŸ™‚

wet pilot
#

ded

tidal bronze
#

@clear ferry you crack me up man

clear ferry
#

I do? @tidal bronze

ocean mirage
#

I’m honoured

clear ferry
#

Would rather think you would crack me open mildpanic

tidal bronze
#

Today is not that day! 🀣

clear ferry
#

Just any other day? mildpanic

tidal bronze
#

When you visit LA over some beers, perhaps.

clear ferry
ocean mirage
#

I hate testing ffs

#

I swear this is what production is for

clear ferry
#

You mean temporary permanent?

wet pilot
#

there is nothing more permanent than a "temporary fix"

clear ferry
#

The things I have seen...

#

In datacenters you use every day

scenic radish
clear ferry
tidal bronze
#

What's the deal with Amcrest 4k cameras only doing 15fps πŸ€”

clear ferry
#

The human eye bladdibladdibla

scenic radish
clear ferry
wet pilot
#

because they cost $ instead of $$

tidal bronze
#

Only if HIK had better selection of cameras with built-in audio 😦

clear ferry
#

Only half a dollar?

forest edge
#

it hurts my brain enough reading what some of y'all say, don't need to hear it too

rotf

clear ferry
#

Three musketeers is probably my favourite American chocolate

#

And now you never will because they killed the voice channel

forest edge
#

imagine tediore in voice

clear ferry
#

I was so going to join right now

#

Y'all

#

Just singing

#

Dam frenk da mood killah

wet pilot
#

meh, too busy watching hockey

clear ferry
#

@wet pilot you damn canoodian

wet pilot
#

heh

hushed basalt
#

Wtf is going on

scenic radish
#

What?

wet pilot
#

the channelpocolypse

clear ferry
#

What in tarnation @hushed basalt

clear ferry
#

Aussie ladies

#

A lot of them on TV lately

forest edge
#

atx revealed his fetish

clear ferry
#

Just one of them 🀷

scenic radish
hushed basalt
#

The lady from The 100 is one of our worst exports

forest edge
#

need an upside down cross emoji for when people say they are on a mac lol jk

wet pilot
#

or anything other than a linux host

scenic radish
#

Lol jk...but not jk

brisk glen
#

I’m totally installing this on my bosses boss pc

scenic radish
#

That's amazing

clear ferry
clear ferry
#

@scenic radish

scenic radish
#

Lol

clear ferry
#

Never gets old

last dirge
#

so google's killing Chrome apps

forest edge
#

what for

#

oh they are forcing them to turn them into extensions

last dirge
#

@clear ferry do you know about the floppotron?

hushed basalt
clear ferry
#

Aye, I've seen it before Brian

#

This one blows my mind every time though

#

Let's do it @ocean mirage

ocean mirage
#

Make sure you get some nice tone marbles

clear ferry
#

Aye, that machine sounds amazing on my home stereo system

#

My phone cannot do it justice

wet pilot
#

did he finish it?

loud tide
#

Shout out to the folks doing releases so frequently! Thanks!

clear ferry
#

Looks like my mother's outlet station behind her chair

forest edge
#

this stupid doorbell camera and random decision to switch between bw and color mode is crazy stupid

ocean mirage
#

I’ve been getting that dudes videos suggested on my YouTube

#

He’s... something

forest edge
strange vapor
cedar glacier
#

hello friends - any js experts here? i want to include $filename in this:

var filename = { payload: msg.payload.data.filename };
msg.payload = ({message: ["My Bot's message"]},{files: [`${filename}`]})

return msg;```

sadly this doesnt work. anyone got tips?
velvet horizonBOT
#
The topic of this channel is:

@cedar glacier For chat around things that aren't Home Assistant related, like whether Docker or Kubernetes, or Celcius or Kelvin, or Celcius or Celsius, or anything. NO POLITICS or RELIGION and BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.

clear ferry
#

@forest edge should we book tickets to China? I've always wanted to see the great firewall of china

orchid rose
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HA rebranding, nice. Makes it far less confusing for newcomers

midnight adder
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I'm lost anyway

orchid rose
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when it comes to HASS or life in general?

midnight adder
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Life is good to me 🀣
But just my 3rd day into hass - I have to say the documentation is grat

orchid rose
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It takes time to get used to it. I quit twice before I managed to get it working at all πŸ˜›

midnight adder
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luckaly im into yaml already (thanks ansible)

valid halo
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I'm currently on hiatus

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my Pi is sitting cold and alone in my living room

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neglected

orchid rose
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send it to me

valid halo
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No.

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I might need it some day /hoarder

midnight adder
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make a jukebox

orchid rose
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😦 I need to find a some small system for my brother to run Home Assistant on

midnight adder
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you mean a raspberry pi?

orchid rose
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used NUC would be optimal I think

midnight adder
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I rum my installation from my old HP notebook - almost as good as a nuc

orchid rose
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yeah, I don't have any of those either. My brother has some really old laptop, but iirc it's some Atom based system so probably not the most energy/noise efficient option available today

valid halo
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I have a Thinkpad T23 sitting around

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want that?

midnight adder
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atom - I think I have a tablet wit one around

clear ferry
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Atom 🀒

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Give me some of that Itanium love

orchid rose
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damn, that's pretty oldschool doc πŸ˜„

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true hoarder

scenic radish
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home assistant is off topic here bois

valid halo
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It was a gift from my late grandfather

clear ferry
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πŸš”

valid halo
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I can't get rid of it

clear ferry
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Teddi the police

scenic radish
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hey, better to come from me than an actual mod getting upset

clear ferry
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Just ping the @mΓ₯ds

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see, doctor mod

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he must be like a mod

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with a ph.d

orchid rose
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the mod

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I had to move some stuff around and now I can't figure out if I should spend money on some small speakers to get my multiroom audio working again or not

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I have a feeling that those 100€ small active speakers won't sound very good

gloomy canyon
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awesome, new widget feature in the companion app πŸ™‚

valid halo
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I remember my house used to have surround sound in the Den

gloomy canyon
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finally I can delete alle those stupid webhooks for triggering scenes

valid halo
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but sadly when we had our floors done. The wires got unplugged and we were totally lost on how to fix it

scenic radish
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no one reads the channel topics lol

orchid rose
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I have a surround sound setup in the other room and I've had a "small" speaker connected to my old AV receiver for the bedroom, but I needed some room and had to clear the amp

scenic radish
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@valid halo surround sound in the den sounds cool

valid halo
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It was cool.

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Dad was good with tech and had a AV thing set up. Sadly he didn't leave a manual for us to use after he passed 😦

orchid rose
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It's not that complicated if you're willing to learn a thing or two

valid halo
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I suppose i could see if we have the speakers downstairs still.

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There's a LOT of stuff in the basement

orchid rose
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with some money you can avoid a lot of the cables nowadays too I suppose. Never tried it though so not sure about the latency

valid halo
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it's like our Bag of Holding

orchid rose
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haha, I've had that as well but eventually you just have to start throwing things away

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or selling them

valid halo
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I've considered selling somethings

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but it often feels like my head says it's not worth it to sell things. Then again I could just be lazy.

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Trash is EZ