I need to run a mysql container with a read-only mysql-data volume, has anybody experiences in this?
#the-water-cooler
dusky plank
ocean mirage
I have never pinged anyone ever
clear ferry
sure, mount the volume ro
hushed basalt
At mwwds
clear ferry
https://docs.docker.com/storage/volumes/ Use a read-only volume
if it is a folder just mount it with -v /mnt/magics:/docker/container/folder:ro I believe
dusky plank
@clear ferry yeah I did but innoDB seems to need r/w access... i just extract information though
clear ferry
don't know innodb, but I've mounted ro in mysql in the past
clear ferry
holy batman
I had some performance gain from moving my SSD used for jails from SATA-USB to native SATA
I knew it would be better
but not 10x better
🤣
low harness
SATA is faster than USB? Who'd have thunk?
ocean mirage
doubt
strange vapor
Just got the best approval ever on an internal Jira: "This procedure excites the passions and soothes the mind. +1"
clear ferry
🤣
clear ferry
🤣
I should try to get a GPU passthrough in my plex for the mobile transcoding 12188 972 48 123 20 662M 418M CPU7 7 46:18 897.44% Plex Transcoder
🤣
strange vapor
Wow.. IBM offer a REST API over SCSI!!! https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/STQRQ9/com.ibm.storage.ts4500.doc/rest.html 
strange vapor
It makes sense in a weird sort of way!
clear ferry
what in tarnation
I have whistled Lechucks theme for 30 years almost
and I just now learned to play it
on the piano atleast 🤣
low harness
From Monkey Island?
clear ferry
This guy does it with more finess than me though .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb8ni8NZxaU
@low harness aye
@strange vapor I want a theremin 😢
ocean mirage
Make one
strange vapor
@clear ferry What you need is the Etherwave Plus with the CV outs. Then you need a big modular system to make use of the CV outs. By the time you have that all setup, your family will have left you, you'll have a proper long greybeard, and plenty of time to play with the Theremin and modular.
em, that escalated more quickly than intended 😄
clear ferry
🤣
clear ferry
I wonder what mental state people who foil their car to look like a snowboard jacket have 
that looks so awesome
last dirge
what?
rain swift
Anyone know anything about this? https://hubitat.com/
can you integrate it to control zwave and zigbee stuff
forest edge
@rain swift yea that's what we recommend to codex when he comes in on his 3rd+ day of not figuring out how to work FORBIDDEN_TOPIC lol
rain swift
lmao
I was thinking of it as a good way to add zigbee and zwave to FORBIDDEN_TOPIC
I already have a zstick but yeah
last dirge
that specifically is a VAG thing
clear ferry
Proprietary hardware @rain swift 🤢
No, they do it with all brands here, specially Tesla's and Germans
rain swift
funny
last dirge
the image you showed with that pattern, that's a VAG thing
last dirge
VW/Audi
scenic radish
i know lol
last dirge
probably SEAT/Skoda too
rain swift
a 7 year old
clear ferry
@last dirge they do the same pattern on all of them 🤷
They finally sell SEAT in Norway again
It was considered too cheap for years
forest edge
that's weird. doorbell cam reconnected and retained all the settings i had after being unplugged from power all night lol
upgraded the firmware and ready to see how round #2 goes lol
clear ferry
My hacktoberfest shirt arrived today 
scenic radish
holy shit that took a long time lmao
clear ferry
Yeah, we norwat people are the lowest of the low
last dirge
@forest edge you decided not to go with the space heater firmware?
forest edge
@last dirge for all i know this firmware could be doubling the heating efficiency lol
last dirge
or just brick it without all the hassle of it glowing red first
forest edge
oh you are probably right because i bet codex updated his and his bricked
clear ferry
forest edge
what no pedobrick?
clear ferry
🧱
forest edge
minecraft i like better lol
wet pilot
INB4 🤢
valid halo
🤮
clear ferry
scenic radish
Good lord
rain swift
Does anyone run a virtual machine as their home firewall? I've been wanting to replace my home brew hardware firewall with a VM for a while. Probably try to set up a machine with multiple nics as a VM host.
Main question would be which software to run on the VM.
clever mortar
I have a colleague who uses a Proxmox cluster to run OpnSENSE
wet pilot
iptables 😄
rain swift
I run OpenBSD right now
which I love, I have some nifty scripts that run and work with pf firewall, I could re-create that
but it's 2020, I should be able to do the same stuff and have a web interface
obtuse niche
@analog steppe sent you a private message ✌️
wet pilot
might be slower but should be possible
rain swift
OPNsense looks cool
tame cove
hi guys , im thinking about using my iPAD2 as a HUB for HA , does someone here has experience with it ?
rain swift
it's 2020, everything should be a VM lol!
clever mortar
Hub?
As in, a dashboard?
That'd be a thing to ask about over in #frontend-archived
tame cove
yes
clever mortar
.topic @tame cove
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
Note the no Home Assistant 😉
rain swift
no politics or religion? wth. 😛
tame cove
lol omg
rain swift
and what is this rubbish about being civil.
tame cove
i just want to run the webinterface of HA on the ipad 24/7 🙂
clever mortar
Then... #frontend-archived 😉
tame cove
Thank You Tinkerer
rain swift
is anyone using ha dashboard?
tame cove
is someone here using it as a dashboard?
rain swift
I just wanna know if its hard to set up and configure lol
tame cove
lovelace hmjriffon 🙂
clever mortar
#330944238910963714 @rain swift 😉
wet pilot
isn't hadashboard #551844176556457984 ?
forest edge
I wish i could quickly reference every channel and say you need to go here
clever mortar
Heay
I did suggest a bot that would send people to the wrong channel, and then edit the message to have the right channel 30 seconds later
forest edge
lol
wet pilot
lol
rain swift
I know this isn't the channel, I just wanted to know if its easy
forest edge
@rain swift doing atMods in one of the dev channels might be your best bet.
last dirge
my vacuum just locked itself in a closet
tame cove
lol
last dirge
The alert it gave me was "Recharging failed. Failed to return to the starting point. Save me, my master!"
luckily it shows me where it is on a map and has a "find me" feature to where it says "I'm over here" if you activate it
last dirge
it hasn't figured out how to clip through doors yet
it was cleaning in the closet and pushed the door shut
forest edge
time to install vacuum door flaps
last dirge
hahaha
it won't go under the bed if the duvet is hanging off
I don't think it'd go through a flap
"why are all of your doors 5" off of the floor?"
forest edge
well instead of a traditional flap have it be automated to lift to required height when the vacuum comes near lol.. go all HA on it lol
forest edge
lol
rain swift
@forest edge atMods?
steel urchin
about time Michael! cli ftw!
forest edge
@rain swift it was a joke, don't do it
forest edge
ugh my sonoff has been in chicago for TWO Days! just now arrived here but isn't scheduled for delievery yet
rain swift
which one, a plug?
forest edge
the bridge
frozen swan
Hey guys, anyone using traccar or other component to track your cars? If so, how have you implemented it?
clever mortar
If you're asking about Home Assistant, take yourself over to #330944238910963714 😉
rain swift
I use the android app tracker
clever mortar
I use satellites and spy drones
rain swift
just hook into the government systems, they probably track you better than you could ever do yourself lol.
wet pilot
rain swift
be like hey mi5 can I have API access lol
wet pilot
s/funky/fucky/g
scenic radish
fscky
clever mortar
CLI rocks because you can script stuff
scenic radish
i see i'm not the only one who uses an SSH client on his phone lol
clever mortar
JuiceSSH...
rain swift
only if I have to
brisk glen
😛
rain swift
I'm not using a tiny screen to do command line if I can help it.
forest edge
iOS🤢
scenic radish
i also use juicessh
rain swift
I love that iphones have to be hacked because apple is pricks
midnight adder
has to work with iOS for a living
brisk glen
@rain swift its not a hack but an app 😛
wet pilot
i just use connectbot
rain swift
I mean, you have to do all kinds of crap to do things that should just work or be there, and there is hardly anything in the store it seems.
I dunno just hate their philosophy.
brisk glen
does android have a spotlight replacement yet?
rain swift
they cater to dummies
brisk glen
something to search all of my files and notes
I could possibly move to android once they have something similer
and a devonthink alternative
midnight adder
yipp, sesame is great
rain swift
I've carried work iphones lol still never liked them.
brisk glen
@rain swift interesting, I need to check it out
midnight adder
i'm the one managing the work iPhones
forest edge
something to search all of my files and notes
@brisk glen you mean like search for keywords within files?
forest edge
I haven't actually tried it cause I don't use my phone to that extent but I think that's baked into android
brisk glen
sesame might be able to do it but with what decent note taking app
(I have over 2k notes and fuck evernote)
forest edge
why didn't you not jump the unbuntu mobile band wagon when that made the splash x years ago? lol
not even sure if you can still install that os on android phones or not, use to be able to
brisk glen
.... see how I am IOS... I was excited for the ubuntu phone but it died a death one must not speak of
brisk glen
its getting harder and harder for me to move
I have a lot automated via siri shortcuts
I love my devonthink database
midnight adder
if you're happy, then stick to it
forest edge
I'm sure they will come out with something else sooner or later
some other linux based mobile os
midnight adder
@forest edge Microsoft?
forest edge
I was talking in general. every so many years someone trys and reinvents the wheel
midnight adder
i hope so
forest edge
@brisk glen there's a few out there like https://www.plasma-mobile.org/ already you can always switch to
so if that's all your waiting on, you had options all along
no idea what the end user experince is actually like, but buy a cheap android phone and slap it on
heck you can pick up older phones that will run crap like that for pennies these days
brisk glen
I would like to be java free 😛
forest edge
there are atleast 20 diffrent types out there, one may exsist lol
Tinkerer literally the first thing we told him to do, guess he was plugging in the ip6? lol
brisk glen
@forest edge and I am holding out for now
its going to be a PIA to breake free from apple
forest edge
well you said it was geting harder and harder to move, so holding out won't help that lol
midnight adder
like a drug addict 😉
brisk glen
I could go full MS
forest edge
just in time before they take over the world too
steel urchin
the android search bar does all that... scans contacts, calendar, web, files, images, etc... i personally don't like all that, and leave it to just files
forest edge
I've never used it but i thought it did that
hearty depot
Someone could look over this?
https://www.rdoproject.org/networking/neutron-with-existing-external-network/
From what I read its - just run it - From what I understand - make a static ip configuration, rename enpx.. to eth0 and maybe create a bond network
first part: https://www.rdoproject.org/install/packstack/
rain swift
kinda wish I got to admin nothing but linux all day, but i'd probably need to learn to script more
wet pilot
you should learn to script more anyway
especially for windows
i might bash M$ but powershell is super powerful
rain swift
I should, but I suck at programming and similar, I get bored fast lol and it's hard to learn something I hardly ever have to use.
wet pilot
- find some manual, repetitive process
- automate it
- ???
- PROFIT
bonus points if that process can be easily broken by human error
past idol
Hello!
Guys, do you think it is worth it/ logical to create a separate email address for high security logins (Bank, Storage Provider, VPN, Password Manager, etc)
hearty depot
would say, not the worst idea
but just dont reuse passwords - comes around the same level
wet pilot
doesn't gmail let you do some sort of tags with the addresses for stuff like that?
username+mybank@gmail.com
past idol
one + for Underknowledge
yes
I want to get rid of Google
but this + tagging is problematic
- some websites do not even accept it
- I am not sure about Google, but once you give this out you cannot delete it or turn it off, it will continue to receive emails. of course maybe you can set some filter, but it is not good enough for me
- your main email is easily recognizable, as the username is in it, and software's are getting more intelligent, but I am sure people can take the + and the other word to get your email
hushed basalt
@past idol get your own domain and protonmail
Set up a catch all email for your domain to go to protonmail
And then use blahblahblah@yourdomain.com
So say bank@yourdomain.com and dodgeysite@yourdomain.com
hushed basalt
Then you can disable those emails wherever you manage your domain, but easier to filter in email
past idol
yeah I have considered that
hushed basalt
And then you always know which company leaked/sold your email
past idol
one of my concerns:
1.you give away your domain name, which makes you easily traceable by shady services
2. what stops them from spamming my domain name? I mean if they try contact@yourdomain.com that is all what it takes. Or anything like this
as all email lands there
not to argue or anything, I am just telling this as I already thought about this, but these deterred me from that
wet pilot
> /dev/null
trim vortex
hushed basalt
Buy a cheap domain
trim vortex
I'm trying set up Sonoff to work
hushed basalt
Or just use protonmail and move on with your life
You're being tracked 1000 more ways than just emails and domains
All sorts of personal identification markers including the way you enter text into search fields
past idol
true 😄
clear ferry
Fricking Plex sync
Doesn't work, and forum threads stretch back 10 years with lol doesn't work
scenic radish
@trim vortex #330944238910963714
forest edge
Hi i'm trying to update from 0.00.1alphav2 to 104 on a commodore. any recommendations?
@steel urchin doorbell been working like a champ after a night of being disconnected, lets see if it dies tonight around same time lol
dusky plank
@forest edge no talk about commodore here plz
terse flame
Hi everyone, I need to buy some smart light and led strips since I need to control color and light intensity.
I want to control them via home assistant (or an other software similar) and block them internet access via firewall.
If I understood well, smart lights based on tuya (and so controlled with Smart Life app) can't be controlled if I block them internet access right?
If not, which brand should I buy? Or which protocol should I check to know if I can use them?
Of course I will control them only from my LAN
forest edge
many things have local api which still allows control even when cut off from internet. I don't have tuya so I couldn't tell you what they have, in fact everytime the tuya even comes up is from people flashing those things with custom firmware. maybe you should look into doing that?
woeful cove
Here are my thoughts on the new Microsoft Edge Browser.
quartz ether
I want to upgrade but sooo many breaking changes for me and only an hour before I have to be at work so no time to fix 😦
terse flame
@forest edge many things have local api which still allows control even when cut off from internet. I don't have tuya so I couldn't tell you what they have, in fact everytime the tuya even comes up is from people flashing those things with custom firmware. maybe you should look into doing that?
I would rather avoid custom firmware and go for an easier route.. Do you know about other brand of light that can be controlled offline? Maybe Philips or Ikea?
I don't really know where can I search this kind of information..
forest edge
googling reviews would likely tell you. plenty of videos on youtube where people review products and state rather they can be local controlled or not. lots of us prefer local over cloud so there is diffidently no shortages of reviewers out there willing to provide us the answers we need
the bulbs i run are cheap amazon knockoffs from another company
and i don't have experince with anything other than that
I will say if you want local you should consider getting into learning how to flash smart home products. not many things off the shelf give full control in the ways we would like and the only means of achieving that is taking matters into your own hands.
pure vine
I wish twitch would get arround to consolidating their events
You have to poll a few diffrent APIs to get follows and then there is pubsub
I wish they would just put follows into pubsub
ranting about this because im thinking about making a twitch event intergration
scenic radish
@terse flame Philips hue has a local API
scenic radish
✅ 🇵 🇲
last dirge
🦉
brisk glen
philips has 2 local apis
the hub just keeps blinking a light when it cant touch home
shit... I need to get more blackout curtains
Resist Score Comparing to 79 Homes for heating and AC is a sad 11
forest edge
looks like they are working on adding a password reset feature
scenic radish
@brisk glen 2 local APIs? 🤔
scenic radish
Oh right, yeah
I always forget about HomeKit since they already have their own local API
hushed basalt
It's quiet
hushed basalt
Atxbyea must be getting cavity searched
forest edge
Mac 🤢
forest edge
I wonder if Frenck ever sleeps lol
scenic radish
Nope
forest edge
you best be watching my sonoff leaving chicago
scenic radish
The one I got for free and installed? Nope
Discord:
Frenck
Playing Visual Studio Code
Frenck:
valid halo
I watched a wonderful video
of a bunch of cats in a marching band as a man screams orders at them in VR chat
I love this timeline
Imma just post the video and you can make your own conclusions about this timeline
scenic radish
Go to bed
valid halo
Okay 😦
scenic radish
😛
hushed basalt
Urgh
hushed basalt
Windows and wsl and /mnt permissions are killing me
wet pilot
heh
hushed basalt
THiS fIlE is GlObAllY WrItTaBLe
Okay so how do I make it not globally writable so it will work
"this is not a feature we are looking to support"
🤦♂️
boreal pewter
Good looking and non functional is still good looking
forest edge
lol
clear ferry
I'm going to have a great trip to the us, I can feel it
Yesterday I stubbed my toe
My daughter broke my glasses
Today I put on my t-shirt and put it in my eye
Come at me bro
clever mortar
🤣
forest edge
well just think, you still got being ripped off by the taxi/uber driver to look forward too, being mugged and food poising and catching something to still take back home to share with others lmao
clear ferry
@forest edge but we have fixed low rates, and company pays everything 😛
forest edge
yea keep that in mind when you get quarantined trying to leave
I do hope you have a good trip here lol
although keep your valuables secure at all times, the locals around here have been getting desperate the last few years.
clear ferry
I'll gofund you, so you can stop your stripper lifestyle then
forest edge
it would only increase the size of my wardrobe
clear ferry
clear ferry
Improbable, but actually possible, an optician had my frame in store, so I can fix my glasses
strange vapor
clear ferry
😂
Roxaaaaaaaane
Why don't you put on a reeeed liiiight
Or whatever the lyrics are again
limber stone
I suppose I'll post this here? sure, I was wondering if any daring folk would like to check out my lovelace ui? I'm kinda looking for ideas on where to go next, I'm thinking app daemon but idk if I really need it, my tablet runs lovelace just fine, and cameras are always wonky on daemon. just looking for maybe tips, a fresh set of eyes couldn't hurt. and just so you know it's maybe worth the time, I got about 45 devices, 8 pages in lovelace, 40 some automations.
I know it's early where I am, I'm not trying to be that guy, but you know...the earth is round lol.
strange vapor
#frontend-archived might be a better forum for that!
limber stone
yea, but not really only lovelace, more of like the whole thing. idk, I'm looking for ideas on where to go next with my smart home, lovelace is just a good place to show what all is there. sure, forums, sounds great.
light trout
unless you top this I'm not interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=727tFhqpFAE 😛
limber stone
@light trout thanks, but that's why I'm looking for ideas 😉
I'm assuming you're talking about the general "share your projects" @clever mortar ? yea, yea that's great and all but it would take 5 minutes showing via discord share rather then making a video to put on youtube, also I don't convey well over text, obviously. was really looking for something a bit more impersonal then sharing it to everyone, but fair enough. didn't think it was too much to ask a server of over 3k people if anyone /wanted/ to discuss ideas. 
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
Using the forum means folks will see your post more than 5 minutes from now
clear ferry
Lol what luck , this weekend was 75% discount on frames
So I only paid $25 to replace my frames
clear ferry
That feeling when a sensor says a website you host is down, and then suddenly 5 hours later it says it is up again, and you didn't do anything
scenic radish
🧙♂️
valid halo
Shhhh. I'm flattering him so that he doesn't throw up on my gear again
brisk glen
internet black magic dies when you learn about networking
still black magic when you learn how BGP works and how the internet is ran on it
clear ferry
Never bothered getting deep into bgp, I understand the gist
valid halo
I still see the internet as black magic
brisk glen
@clear ferry the fact is that its not secure in any way and any provider can massively fuck up the internet accidentally
scenic radish
the internet guy is supposed to come clean out the tubes at work today, so we won't be able to do anything for an hour 😩
valid halo
Didn't Verizon break the internet through some kind of DNS mess
clear ferry
@scenic radish just suck on it
scenic radish
ah thx
clear ferry
I won't post the emoji I have for that
scenic radish
lmao
last dirge
@valid halo I dunno but relatively recently someone put a new DNS server on the internet in Africa
and it was configured as an authoritative root server
and it really screwed with DNS globally for about a week
brisk glen
thats how entire countries get blacklisted
last dirge
I think that was a year or two ago
valid halo
As a major internet transit provider, Verizon should have filtered out the bad information but didn't, which resulted in roughly two percent of IP address prefixes being redirected through a steel plant in a small town in Pennsylvania```hahahaha
scenic radish
steel mill: "wow lots of people must be interested in steel production"
brisk glen
verizon has shit tier support
clear ferry
Screaming child processes killing zombie parents
brisk glen
I had to file a 911 fcc complaint to get them to fix a tower.....
valid halo
Sadly I have yet to be told about that in any computing classes atx
brisk glen
that blew up in a massive way to where verizon corporate called me 3 days later
valid halo
sounds like a programming thing. I haven't taken much of that.
Corporate
Corporate called YOU
they didn't just laugh at you?
valid halo
👀
brisk glen
the issue was massivly fineable under 911 laws
clear ferry
brisk glen
what happens when you have an monopoly over an area
tower goes down and winter is comming
clear ferry
Yeah, that's a good thing about telecom here, EU forces everyone to share and cooperate
brisk glen
no one in the entire area can call emergency services for over an 1 hr radius drive
valid halo
so you're fucked.
clear ferry
And all 911 services in Norway are driven by a seperate organisation anyway, that has their own equipment parallel to telecom
brisk glen
sooo.. with Verizon... if you report an issue... and some one else reports the issue... the ticket keeps being remade
over and over and over
valid halo
XD
clear ferry
That is used primarily by emergency, but if it is down they switch automatically to the regular telecom
brisk glen
ham radio
hushed basalt
🍔 📻
clear ferry
😂
rain swift
no help for an hour?
scenic radish
rain swift
hope they let you keep something around in case someone tries to do unscrupulous things to you lol.
last dirge
okay, poll time
scenic radish
🆗
clever mortar
Brian should not do polls
:P
(a common poll choice on another forum I frequent)
last dirge
are people who "park" on curbs of businesses, in fire lanes, or handicapped spots and turn on their hazard lights bad people or the worst people?
clever mortar
🧟
scenic radish
but they're worse than bad
clever mortar
Entitled
last dirge
not for a delivery
scenic radish
maybe a delivery of water to a fire
last dirge
for an "I'm a customer going in here and I'm fucking important!"
scenic radish
ughhhhhhhhhhhh
wet pilot
ah, yeah. fire the customer
last dirge
what the fuck goes through those peoples' heads?
scenic radish
nothing
they literally only care about themselves
and disregard everyone else or that their actions affect other people
also completely unrelated, but this looks fun: https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/01/17/pinephones-linux-and-privacy-centric-150-smartphone-begins-shipping-to-early-adopters/
scenic radish
think so
scenic radish
boooo
valid halo
damn CDMA
brisk glen
phone number spoof the business and call the local tow truck
be that a hole against the aholes
last dirge
phone with DIP switches
scenic radish
lmao:
When fulfilling the purchase, please bear in mind that we are offering the PinePhone at this price as a community service to PINE64, Linux and BSD communities. If you think that a minor dissatisfaction, such as a dead pixel, will prompt you to file a PayPal dispute then please do not purchase the PinePhone. Thank you.
understandable since it's really just aimed at devs
valid halo
You get what you pay for
last dirge
and it's dirt cheap
valid halo
a neat phone to tinker with
scenic radish
exactly
i can totally see someone bitching about it so it makes total sense to have that warning
brisk glen
ok Karen
wet pilot
also it ships with a test image so you can verify it works but it won't actually work as a phone ootb
scenic radish
🆗 💥 🇪 🇷
last dirge
@valid halo that'd probably work in the US
valid halo
🤔
scenic radish
yeah we have CDMA in the US. i think sprint still is on that
last dirge
it's got 4 GSM bands
brisk glen
as long as it supports lte
valid halo
just as well
last dirge
it'd work on Sprint or Tmo
valid halo
I honestly think a Tinkerable phone isn't for me
scenic radish
sounds like a fun project but not as a daily driver
brb, installing forbidden_topic on the pinephone
brisk glen
its a really cool project for me.. and a true linux not java shitted everywhere phone
valid halo
I just know we'll see a Linus video "Using PinePHone as a Daily driver!?!?! Gone Technological!"
No wait that might be more Unbox therapy's speed.
brisk glen
at least it will cause kernel upstream patches for power management
wet pilot
google had a talk recently about their issues with kernel updates. Apparently its even more of a hot mess than i realized because the chipset MFGs are terrible
brisk glen
it puts android in a super fragmented state
wet pilot
they detailed what their plan is to pare everything back
wet pilot
cut the phone vendors out of it at least. but the chipset side will be harder to do
brisk glen
to get google play certified.. you need to support fusha base
and fusha base requires google control
wet pilot
they probably won't push that for a while
brisk glen
they need to
wet pilot
the chipset mess isn't really the fault of the mfgs either. but they make things worse by adding their own kernel crap on top
brisk glen
they need to start somewhere instead of letting the issue keep piling up like everything else
wet pilot
brisk glen
yah... fusha is the only out for them
wet pilot
long term, yeah
wet pilot
yep, which makes sense in x86 but there's no bios like abstraction layer for arm
brisk glen
I guess they also do not want to be limited by a standard
this way is better.. lets change and break it all
dusky plank
arm has instructions to replace something like a bios or how does it work?
wet pilot
it works by them forking the kernel somehow
hushed basalt
So I had a coffee with a lead dev at a software consultantacy practice yesterday
Seems like the sort of company I'd like to work for
rain swift
what's it like to be a programmer these days, I feel like it's all probably getting outsourced to india and china?
rain swift
ahh, I know when I call microsoft for issues, I pretty much only get people from india.
though I did get a SQL DBA from the UK the other day.
hushed basalt
People developing the project having a close in person relationship with the people who will be using the project is really valuable
dusky plank
would you like to have software you want to use programmed by a foreign individual?
I don't think so
hushed basalt
Having a bunch of developers managed by a team leader in a subcontracted company for an outsourcing company handled by a corporate software team talking to a business analyst who talks to the business consultant who talks to the clients team manager who gets their information from the actual users
Not so good
wet pilot
programming isn't outsourced as much
but then, we have two offshore programmers on our team. One in Ukraine and one in Bolivia
wet pilot
the core of the team is US though
there will definitely be jobs. certain regions still have a poor rep for code quality
scenic radish
my coworker behind me is chewing ice with her mouth open and it's fucking disgusting
that's all, bye
valid halo
Crunches loudly
last dirge
I've never had a good experiencing with code outsourcing
wet pilot
we've been good with our 2 from a country that does not have a half hour offset from the rest of the world
rain swift
I worked for a place that bought a company in the dominican republic and fired all of the US devs
lots of places care more about paying slave wages
they also got rid of pretty much all of the systems admins too
H1B garbage is killing people's jobs here
wet pilot
its a good visa but its being abused by mega-corps in said country with a half hour offset
rain swift
yep
the biggest criminals on earth wear suits and they will abuse everything.
those types of jobs attract psycho and sociopaths.
wet pilot
one contracting firm we already work with for our qa people were trying to force some of their scrubs on us and were coaching them on answers
we would have to constantly change up our questions to catch them in their lies
last dirge
a place I used to work at had a coding test
it was a very simple test that proved basic OO knowledge
85% of the people that took it failed it
rain swift
I mean, places i've worked sat you down and gave you a list of things you'd have to do and said go
last dirge
we had to change it a bit after we found someone who'd taken it had posted it online somewhere
even though people were still failing it after that 🙂
rain swift
I had one place put me in a room with a bunch of gear and say here, set this all up to do this stuff etc. I'll be back in an hour lol.
clever mortar
Yeah, I've interviewed folks who didn't know the most basic thing about the field they've been working in
rain swift
seems like it would be hard to memorize a programming test
lot of idgits just brain dump cert tests
rain swift
my bachelors degree capstone project, one of the girls in our group didn't know anything, I'm like how did you make it this far
forest edge
just watched a UPS truck back up 2 blocks along my street cause they were fearing the ice turning around lol
last dirge
heh
clear ferry
@rain swift like my wife doing her master's in cybersecurity,and one of the guys don't understand how files are attached in Microsoft teams
forest edge
gonna be a mad house outside here today, can see the ice out there and people don't do well with less than perfect road conditions
clear ferry
@forest edge whereabouts?
forest edge
midwest missouri
don't worry atx, sure there is no ice where your going
only the flames of hell!
velvet horizonBOT
forest edge
well this is witner for us
lord knows it didn't want to snow during xmas so now that we're past that we'll get blizzards and crap galore
forest edge
lol amazon says my sonoff bridge is out for delivery.. so that's wonderful cause now it gets to be crushed when the delivery truck carrying it flips 17 times due to the crap weather road conditions
scenic radish
that's what you're concerned about if the truck flips 17 times?
forest edge
those amazon trucks have more airbags than a pimped out 70's Cadillac with hydraulics .. yea the driver will be fine.. the cargo.. not so much
forest edge
they are brand new from the ford plant we have located here
last dirge
the little guy?
forest edge
no they aren't little
last dirge
the big Transit?
forest edge
they look like the sprinters but taller
last dirge
@scenic radish muy pequeno
wet pilot
yep, probably what they could get locally
they're all purchased locally to the distib center
last dirge
GAH
dealing with QA resources is infuriating
especially when they think they've found the root cause of the issue and insist on using their steps to reproduce the issue
even though it's not possibly related in that manner
clever mortar
if we quickly flip the breaker repeatedly the unit fails, clearly a fault in the breaker
forest edge
well it does say child resistant on the package..
scenic radish
nah, it's good to power cycle your entire house at least once per hour
clear ferry
I once discussed with a guy
Who insisted that replacing switches every two years was a good idea
Because they got slower over time
clear ferry
I asked him if he was under the impression they were running out of megabytes
Never got a reply
clever mortar
It's the electrons, they make tunnels
I wonder if this explains why some people around here get slower...
clear ferry
I feel offended
wet pilot
heh, none of us turn atx on
forest edge
thats just guilt eating at your vvery soul, nothing to concern yourself with
wet pilot
i disabled that feature flag a while ago
forest edge
@steel urchin camera going on 24 hours still operational. maybe it was a fluke thing i dunno
clear ferry
final acorn
clear ferry
clever mortar
Sounds like a calendar entry
brisk glen
I like those new battery free / power cable free wall switches that you can slap anywhere
forest edge
hmm?
scenic radish
R U N L E S S W I R E
brisk glen
hell ya
forest edge
you mean the kinetic energy stuff?
brisk glen
yes
forest edge
that tech has been around since forever
scenic radish
F O R E V E R
brisk glen
since the stone age
scenic radish
B O N E A G E
clever mortar
.topic @hallow terrace
velvet horizonBOT
scenic radish
F O R B I D D E N
clever mortar
You should ask about Home Assistant over in #330944238910963714 😉
hallow terrace
Oops sorry
scenic radish
N O P R O B L E M
brisk glen
F O R B I D D E N to speak about the F O R B I D D E N
hallow terrace
Deleted,first post and got it wrong 😂😂
forest edge
FORBIDDEN_FORBIDDEN
scenic radish
B E N N E D
scenic radish
Done, go home
rain swift
yeah, I'm an actual nerd, I don't worry about semantics lol.
wet pilot
imma have to cut a corner off your nerd card for that
forest edge
valid halo
Did someone say kinetic energy power?
I remember some group was considering making sidewalk tiles have that stuff built in
So as we all shuffle along in our zombie lives we power SOCIETY
forest edge
I like the illuminating paint stuff they are using in some parts where the paint on the road glows at night for like crosswalks ect
scenic radish
@valid halo that just sounds like slavery with extra steps
clear ferry
@scenic radish I N E E D M O R E C H E R R Y
scenic radish
I've got your stuff picked out, just need an address to send it all to!
clear ferry
scenic radish
Lol
scenic radish
atxbyea is a 🌸
valid halo
I program in HTML and CSS 🤓
wet pilot
hmm, is it programming or describing? 🤔
scenic radish
i program in BASIC
forest edge
i point and say, "do this"
clear ferry
I email in cisco catos 
scenic radish
did someone say cisco callmanager hold music?
valid halo
Just hack the mainframes to alter the flow of time so that the plane boards now.
Make sure to use two keyboards
valid halo
That's the spirit
forest edge
TSA is gonna mistake his kazoo for a weapon and https://media.tenor.com/images/f66f30890717cc2a7f2c58b777195a10/tenor.gif
scenic radish
9 In Memoriam
RIP in peace @light trout
forest edge
woot the bridge made it! now time to break some stuff lol
scenic radish
don't die pls, we need you to harass @steel urchin
forest edge
i love how the outside of the box is in english but literally everything else is a mix of every other language lol
rain swift
what bridge?
rain swift
take a narwal tusk with you then.
last dirge
important PSA
when ordering resistors from an online source make sure you check the wattage so you don't end up with gigantic 2W resistors when you only need 1/4 watt
rain swift
I think we need to see a photo comparison.
wet pilot
XD
last dirge
looks like cat food that fell in the water dish
undone aspen
Heh.
Man, I'm kind of hoping that Apple steps up their game a bit on HomePod this year. The current HomePod, is just too much and not veratile enough in terms of,,, Size... Like the Echo's are. But the Siri voice assistant is mostly way better than the Alexa voice assistant in terms of what it can actually do.
forest edge
apple 🤢
undone aspen
I was doing voice assistant comparisons between Alexa and Siri today on basic things like. "is the living room light on?" Siri can answer! Alexa says that the living room doesn't support that. :/
brisk glen
@undone aspen thats funny... it was the other way around a few years ago
undone aspen
Heh yeah. Well, Apple can get behind, but then shoot ahead when it matters. 🙂
"Alexa, are there any lights on?" "I can't find the device any lights."
"Hey Siri, are there any lights on?" "The office light is on, all the rest are off. The Driveway is not responding."
Serious difference there.
clever mortar
Google is also quite capable of telling you what lights are on
undone aspen
Is it? I haven't used it at all.
clever mortar
You even now get a card to turn off the lights that are on 😄
undone aspen
heh.... Oi,...
clever mortar
It does list all the lights though, which is annoying
The a, the b, and the c lights are on. The x, the y, and the z lights are off
valid halo
Google does indeed list the lights that are on
undone aspen
I created a simple routine in Alexa to, for Good night, to simply turn off all the lights, close the garage door, lock all the doors.
clever mortar
Yeah, Google supports routines like that too
undone aspen
Siri, I think you have to individually list each one when setting up a scene like that.
clever mortar
With Google I can certainly say turn off all the lights
undone aspen
But, still. The big problem, and why I mixed Apple & Alexa, is because $350 for a single HomePod, is and still is ridiculous.
clever mortar
That's Apple for you
undone aspen
Oh, Siri too, I think, fo rthat kind of phrase.
undone aspen
Yeah, they went on temporary sale, exlusively at Best Buy, explicitely while I was in the middle of changing jobs and couldn't afford one. LOL
I am hoping 2020 brings a Homepod mini, Homepod 2, Homepod 2 Max, or something, with reasonable price ranges.
undone aspen
Sure, along with a voice assistant as well.
brisk glen
this is apple
undone aspen
Granted, with an Apple Watch, an Apple phone,e tc, on your person at any given moment in time, that can be rendered less than useful, however, that's only half of things. 🙂
Like, I use an Echo Dot in my bedroom as a voice assistant, audible player, alarm clock, glass break detector, etc...
valid halo
I mean the google home Max is 400 bucks but that thing looked pretty beefy
undone aspen
Yeah, it's freaking huge. With dual woofers, and tweeters, and comes with stereo in a small package, where-as you can do stereo with homepod and echo, by pairing two to one.
scenic radish
T H I C C
undone aspen
The wha?
scenic radish
the google home max. it's THICC
undone aspen
Ahh...
last dirge
THICC like those accidental 2W reistors
valid halo
The Google Home Max for when you want everyone to hear your music preferences for free
scenic radish
so i discovered a lovely infinite loop in one of the programs i use at work.
Price list cannot be blank.
click OK
Please enter a price list.
click OK
Price list cannot be blank.
FFS
someone put a while loop where they shouldn't have
forest edge
@scenic radish was put there intentionally so you could appear to be doing something
scenic radish
"what did you do today?"
"held down the enter key for 8 hours straight."
valid halo
🤔
forest edge
"Tediore have you completed the price list yet?"
"almost sir! the program is
a little tricky to figure out but i think i got the hang of it!"
scenic radish
lmao
low harness
Woah! Apparently FIsherman's Friend reacts with beer pretty much the same way Methos does with diet coke...
Who can guess how I found out?
scenic radish
methos
low harness
*mentos
light trout
You had one in your mouth while drinking beer
dusky plank
methOS
rare plover
I literally only just found this a couple weeks ago and was so excited it existed...lol
scenic radish
FORBIDDEN TOPIC REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
forest edge
dunno how i havent fried this thing yet lol
scenic radish
Karma police
Arrest this man
He talks in maths
He buzzes like a fridge
@wet pilot there you have it. 20 asterisks == secure
scenic radish
18 is 1000 years. 17 is 78 years
scenic radish
Very much so. The computer gives up after 18 asterisks
"fuck it, no one's this committed to a dumb password"
wet pilot
18 a is 23 million years
wet pilot
18 1 10 months
scenic radish
This is an exciting Friday night
scenic radish
Lmao
I'm honestly tempted to make a dummy account for something and use one of these passwords
wet pilot
it might just get hit by a dictionary attack
scenic radish
Prolly
rain swift
so I want to get into making my own sensors and stuff, and someone in here said they do it all the time without soldering, so where is a good place to start with that, this ESPhome stuff?
wet pilot
breadboards
rain swift
are there any decent kits I can get off the amazon?
daring quartz
anyone have an idea where I can join an Ender 3 / 3D printing Discord?
alpine helm
@daring quartz https://discord.gg/b5VgCv is pretty good, not necessarily Ender 3, but a few people have those specific printers
hushed basalt
daring quartz
Thank you!
daring quartz
@hushed basalt yeah if you value your time, a 3D printer is a good way to waste all of it.
hushed basalt
I've played less than 10 hours of games in the past 12 months
rain swift
if I want my first project of making my own stuff to be a smart plug, is the sonoff the way to go? do they measure wattage use?
alpine helm
That's not really making your own thing.. that's just wiring up a Sonoff. You could use a esp8266 with esphome or tasmota and get some ws2512b LED strips and have some fun there, that's a bit more wiring stuff up
rain swift
I'm okay with wiring up a sonoff lol
I guess making my own stuff was the wrong way to put it
hacking cheap stuff?
but the other thing would be cool too
scenic radish
tuya-convert is fun
rain swift
what is that
scenic radish
This Chinese company named tuya offers a way for pretty much anyone to make their own smart plugs and sell them and naturally someone found a way to flash custom firmware on lots of tuya stuff that enables local control
Most if it is stuff based on the ESP8266 wifi module
alpine helm
I found a bunch of Globe branded plugs for cheaper than Sonoffs and flashed them with Tuya-convert.. I should find a use for those critters
scenic radish
I flashed some smart plugs that were on sale for $3 each with power monitoring. I should've bought 10 lol
rain swift
links plz
valid halo
Man remember back in the Dark Ages when it was 6-8 weeks for delivery
rain swift
I have a security camera guy in china who gets me stuff in like 3 days
I know he's doin shady stuff, but I don't care
scenic radish
Well they're not on sale anymore but these are the ones I got: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LGSBFNJ/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_OGMiEb2AGHT44
analog copper
18
ß
@wet pilot careful with special chars though, you hear about the kids who broke a bank with an emoji password?
apparently it corrupted a whole lot of shit
@scenic radish holy shit
the 16A or the 10A?
scenic radish
16A, except the specs make no sense. Lemme check
analog copper
classic
16A ... secretly uses 20ga wire
that kills me when I see it though
Theyre getting better at least
scenic radish
It says max current 16A, max power 1100W 110-240 V. You could never pull 16A through these if the max power is 1100W lol. 1100W / 16A == 69 (nice) V
analog copper
69V
an interesting question to be had regulatory wise though
I assume since it is a DC-DC converter (for powering the onboard electronics) of some sort, its input range is 110-240V
so technically its input range is indeed up to 240
but if you market 16A
thats 3840W
at 240V
so why is anyone allowed to market anything with a wide input range in amps?
thats bogus
rain swift
will those work with HA out of the box or do I have to hax them?
clear ferry
Too early for this shit 
clear ferry
forest edge
@clear ferry did you try the esphome on your bridge with the hack?
clear ferry
Not yet, I've only played with openmqttgateway
scenic radish
@rain swift will not work with forbidden topic without flashing custom firmware
scenic radish
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I just finished a 32oz (1 L) cold brew coffee and I'm fucking amped
Actually, someone help
Pls
clear ferry
She's noh mah qween
scenic radish
I saw that DoctorMod
clear ferry
scenic radish
Also where'd you get your PhD anyway?
clear ferry
University of kawaii
scenic radish
Heh
clear ferry
scenic radish
always got them hot emoji
clear ferry
And you have only seen 3% 
forest edge
the one thing i bought this sonoff for dosen't work lol
i mean i plan to use other shit, but this one thing is what pulled the purchase trigger
clear ferry
something strange in my docker enviroment after the last power outage, traffic passed to the containers are random at best 🤔
every few hours my monitoring complains that my websites are down, then they are up again after 10 minutes or soo
betting it's @scenic radish hacking me
I should set up nginx as my frontend soon though
but... learning that horrible syntax
hearty depot
I really like the nginx syntax.
I don't know what you're all having
daring inlet
bangs head against wall
clear ferry
A lot of cool synth stuff, haven't caught up yet 😛
@hearty depot buy you are German, that explains everything 
hearty depot
🤣 really ?
ocean mirage
Stunts are cool but I don’t need another thing to waste my time on
hearty depot
I would like to see the old avartars from people. Like @ocean mirage I know you.. but your "face" is missing
clear ferry
The future is now old man!
hearty depot
My back hurts 👎 probably I slept on a cushion to much :p
(aka-yea I get old deam fast)
ocean mirage
Ah nice
I’m considering getting one again once I sell my king of tone
Maybe a Taylor 114CE or similar range
clear ferry
Taylors are supposedly good
I don't like them much
I hate takamine
I've had Washburn's since 1995, won't replace them so far
Had another 12 string from them, but it got stolen
ocean mirage
I’m not set on Taylor, that’s just the price range I’m in I think
Martin, Cole Clark, Maton
clear ferry
I paid $200 for the 12 string used
ocean mirage
Nice
ocean mirage
I’d happily pay less if I can’t tell a difference
clear ferry
I recommend trying a lot