the-water-cooler

[orchid rose]

should learn to scroll by now...

[clear ferry]

It doesn't have to be reliable for video @orchid rose 😛

[orchid rose]

I replied to some random message from god know how long ago

[clear ferry]

Or just reliable enough

[brisk glen]

mdns is just as reliable as dns

[clear ferry]

We used it for some heart rate monitors, it worked fine enough for that too

[brisk glen]

except tthe multicast bit 😛

[clear ferry]

500 of those roughly

Over 400 switches

[brisk glen]

fine when the switch is not treating multicasts like broadcasts

[clear ferry]

Long live Comware

None of that inferior Catalyst, nexus or unifi stuff ;)

Or extremeos 🤢

[brisk glen]

unifi is for the poor lazy man

well not soo poor sometimes

[clear ferry]

Like ubiquity you say? 😛

[brisk glen]

@clear ferry yes edgeOS 2 is trash... at least they know it is

[clear ferry]

🤢

[brisk glen]

aka why there is a brand new OS for unifi

beats the new cisco bullshit :/

[clear ferry]

Cisco ACI is even worse

🤢

I like that it takes a network admin 30-60 minutes more to configure my network ports in aci than it would take in any other OS

[brisk glen]

no wonder why cisco is forcing python automation on the ccna cert

their shit is soo unusable, you havre to resort to scripting to set stuff

[clear ferry]

Yeah it is terrible

The emc storage is almost as bad

[last dirge]

IOS has never been great

[clear ferry]

A customer of mine that used to have 3par used to do 5 minutes to provision a new disk to a 50 node esxi cluster, with emc it took him 45 to do the same thing

[tidal bronze]

Can't believe I am paying $50+ for Chromecast audio. 🤔

[clear ferry]

[tidal bronze]

Some are selling for 100+ on eBay. 🙄

[clear ferry]

Wtf

There has to be better options...

[tidal bronze]

That's the only way for no latency audio sync with AVR and GH speaker groups

I had 2 and pulled them out, for the life of me can't remember where I put it.

[clear ferry]

You could mangle a gh mini and connect the speaker output to something I guess

Cheaper than $100

😛

[tidal bronze]

Not 2 channel

[clear ferry]

Oh right

[tidal bronze]

Found 1 for 44 plus shipping, oh well.

[scenic radish]

i knew i should have grabbed one when they were $15 each

then i could have sold you it for $44 plus shipping

[orchid rose]

no hdmi on your AVR?

I have one chromecast audio, but now that they discontinued it, I'll probably have to look at the chromecast devices in the future if I'm to extend the audio groups

[rain swift]

my network works fine

but enjoy your hardware that they make not support newer versions of software so they force you to buy new hardware, or make the devices go slower and slower to make the battery life longer, etc. etc. etc.

🙂

gotta maintain that reality distortion field.

[scenic radish]

@clear ferry i think you think americans are more sensitive than they really are lol

[clear ferry]

[hushed basalt]

I spoke to someone tonight who said American customs was really big on rejecting developers on holidays

"Why are you here for six weeks, you must be working! "

[scenic radish]

wut?

[clear ferry]

Last time i flew into the us I was with my wife and sisters

[scenic radish]

we're required to take an online cybersecurity course at work because people at work are idiots and click on the fake phishing emails the IT dept sends out

[clear ferry]

The guy in customs gave off a real feminine vibe, but was flirting with all of my female companions, but when I came up he was like awrite, here yo passport,begone

[scenic radish]

so i'm sitting here for the next hour taking the course, ffs

[clear ferry]

@scenic radish we have to take it once a year, because people be idjits

And they send test mails atleast once a month we have to report to phishing as a test

[rain swift]

@scenic radish depends greatly on which american you talk to, if they are a progressive, lefty, SJW nutjob, they will be very sensitive, to comical levels.

[scenic radish]

ehh... maybe. i try not to make mass generalizations though

[rain swift]

stereotypes exist for a reason lol.

[clear ferry]

I'm a stereotype

Fat IT guy

[dusky plank]

but you have toys

[scenic radish]

the training just showed this tip:

Never connect to open Wi-Fi unless you are using a VPN (virtual private network). It’s too easy for hackers to trick you and gain access to your device. Just never do it if you want to stay secure.
as though the people who are clicking on fake phishing links are gonna know what a VPN is without explaining it first

and they don't even explain what it is lmao

[inner vault]

time to bring up the point that not all VPNs will protect against that anyways? a vpn that just adds routes to a private network without tunneling all traffic and hijacking all DNS won't do shit against someone trying to mitm your banking info or facebook password or whatever

[scenic radish]

tru. my traffic is encrypted with a 2048-bit key so i think i'm good

[dusky plank]

I use 4096, ultra paranoia mode

[last dirge]

if my phone stumbles on open wifi it automatically opens a VPN tunnel

[scenic radish]

i can't get tasker to reliably trigger starting my VPN based on wi-fi networks, it's kind of annoying me

gonna switch off the beta track and see if it persists, then contact the dev maybe

[last dirge]

it's part of Google Fi

😉

[scenic radish]

oh wi-fi assistant?

[clear ferry]

https://media.tenor.com/images/3fe85d899a9a98c59db673c9a834089c/tenor.gif

[scenic radish]

that has worked maybe 5 times in the 8+ years i've had a nexus/pixel phone lol

[clever mortar]

Google Pixel phones do auto-VPN too

[dusky plank]

@scenic radish openvpn? it provides a seamless tunnel on ios at least :/

[clever mortar]

I have a Tasker profile for my own OpenVPN though

[scenic radish]

using the openvpn connect app on android. pivpn installed at home

[clever mortar]

Yeah, that's what I use, with Tasker for not one of these WiFi names

[forest edge]

what in the vpn is going on in here

[scenic radish]

can't figure out why my tasker setup for it is so unreliable. mind sharing your tasker profile for it tinkerer?

[dusky plank]

@forest edge sshhhhhh

[last dirge]

these aren't the packets you're looking for

[forest edge]

lol

[clever mortar]

Let me dig it out

[scenic radish]

🙏

[dusky plank]

please send it via ssh

[scenic radish]

scp

[dusky plank]

nah, ssh and nano

don't forget password auth

[forest edge]

send it via ssh over dial up

[dusky plank]

base64 encoded so no one can read it

[scenic radish]

it's big brain time

[forest edge]

push it with adt

oh hey look windows wants to reboot, guess i'll be back next week

[clear ferry]

Brb run Windows off an SD card

[daring kayak]

Anyone other than myself on the Webinar for the Zigbee "new open protocol" webinar?

[dusky plank]

@clear ferry MMC for the win

[daring kayak]

Is it just me, or does it sound pretty closed, so far?

[hushed basalt]

No u

[scenic radish]

You get out of your car and find a flash drive lying on the pavement. It's labeled Payroll 3rd Qtr.
What should you do with it?
A Take it to Accounting to see if it belongs to them.

B Plug it into your own computer to see if you can figure out who it belongs to.

C Pick it up and throw it away so that the next guy won't get tricked.

D Take it to your IT department and tell them exactly where you found it.
Obviously B, i'm not an idiot

[hushed basalt]

E

[clear ferry]

Lolololol

[hushed basalt]

Plug it into the CEOs computer

[clear ferry]

Who made your training @scenic radish ? Someone who almost knows what a computer is?

[hushed basalt]

I suspect most IT departments would just plug it in too

[scenic radish]

knowbe4

[clear ferry]

Noob4

Oh snap, only three days left

[clever mortar]

https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dTS7yvsTT3/ @scenic radish
The connect task checks for connectivity before bringing up the VPN, to avoid shooting self in foot with captive portals.
All the profile does is check that it's WiFi connected and one of the two profiles Home and Trusted Wi-Fi aren't active

[clear ferry]

@scenic radish reminds me, when I did my driver's exam 20 years ago, we had questions like that

You hit someone with a car, do you a, run over them three more times, b go out and berate them or c call an ambulance

In that style of idiotic alternatives

For the whole exam

[clever mortar]

(a)

I've seen the zombie movies

[clear ferry]

I would do a first, then b, then a again

[scenic radish]

@clever mortar ah, thanks. i'm just triggering on Wifi connected with !my-SSID as the parameter. for some reason it doesn't automatically connect most of the time

[clear ferry]

[clever mortar]

Weird

[scenic radish]

does yours also bring up the openvpn connect app briefly upon connect/disconnect?

also what version of tasker are you on?

also what is love?

[clever mortar]

1. Don't think so, but it happens automatically... I'm not watching. Let me test

Sigh something broke

I'll have to troubleshoot later

[scenic radish]

all good, thanks. sorry if i broke it lol

[clever mortar]

VPN worked yesterday, VPN sulking today

[scenic radish]

ah, no fun

[strange vapor]

The drives from AWS seem to have survived the dodgy packaging. Both working perfectly.

Because I'm paranoid about them, they're both going into RAID1 systems paird with drives bought locally in proper packaging 🙂

[hushed basalt]

Murphy says the local ones will die

[strange vapor]

Of course!

[hushed basalt]

And the Amazon ones will outlive you

[clever mortar]

Ok, yes it does @scenic radish - but I found other issues 😂

[scenic radish]

oh boy

[clever mortar]

Eh, it's good, I can fix things when I get home

[clear ferry]

You don't have three different ways of connecting home? If one breaks 😛

I always wanted to get around to firewall knocking

But never had the time

[clever mortar]

Oh, I do, I've got Wireguard too 😉

But there's a limit to what I want to do remotely

Plus, I think the fscking Intents have changed since the last time I connected to untrusted Wifi...

[clear ferry]

😛

[clever mortar]

I have more data than I use, and almost global coverage with it, I don't use untrusted wifi much

[clear ferry]

I should setup automatic connect to my openvpn

When I have time ...

Tasker was not straight forward

Need to study how to use it properly

[orchid rose]

Ordered a Ryzen 5... My cheap GPU upgrade turned out to cost me a lot after all 😕

[last dirge]

go big, go Ryzen 7

get those extra cores

[orchid rose]

makes literally no difference in my use

[wet pilot]

depends on the expected workloads

[clear ferry]

AMD🤢

[wet pilot]

ATX 🤢

[last dirge]

futureproofing 🙂

[clear ferry]

I never cap out my 8 cores on my desktop anyway

And I run a lot of applications

[orchid rose]

futureproofing is usually a bad idea imo

[wet pilot]

eh, "depends"

[orchid rose]

for sure

[last dirge]

building a PC once a decade is better than upgrading piecemeal every few years

[wet pilot]

future proofing by getting a mobo that has additional ram slots you're not using can help

[clear ferry]

My desktop is 13 years old

Or, 12 perhaps

[orchid rose]

again that depends Brian. You can usually get decent money for components that are a few years old

[clear ferry]

Mid range i5 at the time

[orchid rose]

I just sold the i5 2500k that I had... Finally there's some progress with cpus again

[clear ferry]

Skylake was a great boost

Probably best since nehalem

[wet pilot]

until the heartbleed mitigations

[clear ferry]

Indeed, but very few of my customers have even noticed the mitigations tbh

Only niche cases will actually notice it irl

[wet pilot]

current AMD is actually legit though

[clear ferry]

Atleast the first design they had of the recent architecture was shite

[wet pilot]

definitely, that's been fixed though

[clear ferry]

Not sure if they fixed the design since

[wet pilot]

their NUMA was a mess

[clear ferry]

Yes exactly

[wet pilot]

that's fully resolved with their current line

[clear ferry]

So most of my customers who ordered AMD returned them

And still they won't order them

[wet pilot]

we'll see. the benchmarks for multi-socket workloads are impressive

its an up-hill fight for sure

[clear ferry]

Yeah, but it is still memory that is the constraint in 80% of environments

And migrating from intel to amd requires planned downtime for the virtualized workloads, which makes it hard and one way

[wet pilot]

the shear number of pcie4 lanes would also be interesting to some customers

[clear ferry]

Maybe, I don't see anyone having constraints there, most can fit 2x2x25gbit and 2x2x16gbit and see no issues still

[wet pilot]

iirc the max memory per socket is higher with latest amd too

[clear ferry]

Maybe when we move to 100 and 32 Gbit

We do 3TB per dual socket now I think, or it might have upped to 4TB

[wet pilot]

maybe. I think some of the compute workloads would add "gpu" type things to their servers

[clear ferry]

Yeah, but I hardly see more than two cards per server still

Which is manageable

[wet pilot]

AMD is 4T / Socket

so double the ram on a dual socket box with similar numa mapping (allegedly)

[clear ferry]

Had to check

Cascade lake does 4.5TB per socket

[wet pilot]

huh. the .5 is odd

[clear ferry]

And optane, which I don't think amd has something similar

[wet pilot]

lol Intel is telling people to test their latest optane on AMD because its pcie4

because they don't have a board+cpu to handle it

[clear ferry]

No letter = Normal Memory Support (1.0 TB)
M = Medium Memory Support (2.0 TB)
L = Large Memory Support (4.5 TB)

[wet pilot]

i think the amd argument there is that its a few grand cheaper per cpu though compared to the L cpus from blue

[clear ferry]

No wait.. not optane, I was thinking of the persistent DDR memory

[wet pilot]

i think that's optane?

[last dirge]

optane is NUTS

[clear ferry]

Optane = pcie, optane dc = ddr

They changed the naming I think

[wet pilot]

because Intel has a great track-record with naming things these days 😛

[clear ferry]

With naming at all

[wet pilot]

their model numbers are getting dumb

[clear ferry]

Yeah, I just use the internal cheat sheets

[orchid rose]

not sure why they kept the numbering scheme with 10th gen...

[clear ferry]

We even have a few models that are HPE specific that you can't get at other vendors

[orchid rose]

makes it confusing

[rain swift]

it's 2020, I want my quantum computer.

[orchid rose]

They are also rumoring a Core i9-10990XE which might need up to a kilowatt in heavy use. Something for atxbyea 😉

[clear ferry]

i9 🤢

That is something for the neckbeards

[orchid rose]

dissing gamers 😦

[clear ferry]

Who know all about desktops, but have never worked in IT and lives home with mom at age 45 😛

[boreal pewter]

Out of interest: Any thoughts about https://www.bitdefender.com/solutions/home-scanner.html
or comparable?

[low harness]

I got Outlook installed on my work iphone. It’s making Windows noises. That ain’t right!

[clear ferry]

Lol

Outlook for Android is actually good

[rain swift]

@boreal pewter if someone would just integrate nmap + zenmap into HA it could scan everything for you wired and wireless. You could probably make automations and alerts etc.

[boreal pewter]

Yeah, if we only focus on the cases those programs cover. (I didn't want to get it HA related here tho since it is forbidden)
What I think about is in a wider range tho, having a backend database on such a scan tool with all known brands, products, standard passwords and other security flaws they may have

There have been enough stories of hijacked IP cams and such (not that I'm afraid of it or need), but I guess there're many not so advanced users

[rain swift]

I block my IP cams from the internet, they can only talk to things on the lan

[boreal pewter]

I guess there're many not so advanced users

[rain swift]

I also block communication with china and russia to and from my network lol

[boreal pewter]

Regarding Smarthome gets new users daily and many many many non-it people get on that train to monitor their child, home and other things and probably have only used a PC to check mails yet in their life

[scenic radish]

there'ven't been many

[rain swift]

yeah well, you can't save those people from themselves lol

perhaps homekit would be good for them, apple stuff is usually geared towards non tech people.

[boreal pewter]

True, but it would be good to know if you can suggest those simply a program that does such a check without the need of getting manually on everything

You know family that needs help from the only "IT guy" in the family 😛

Looking at monitors all day and you sure must know everything 😄

[rain swift]

problem is the dummy proof stuff is almost always insecure because secure and dummy proof don't usually go together.

[clear ferry]

Idjits will be idjits anyway

They will break something and then say you said we were safe

[rain swift]

pretty much

that's why you charge them to make it as secure as you can while still being easy for them to use.

[valid halo]

I'm the worst kind of idjit

[clear ferry]

[valid halo]

I learn stuff and then I forget things or don't work on it regularly so it's all gonna come cRASHING down

Thanks atx

you're alright

even though you keep being sick all over me

[clear ferry]

🤢

[valid halo]

runs

[steel urchin]

@forest edge i think this doorbell is going back

twice it's gone to complete crap, video has completely stopped working yet again.... restarting it doesn't fix it, i have to factory reset

[last dirge]

I hate dealing with outsourced support

[steel urchin]

same... i called amcrest yesterday and it was clear they weren't english speaking, nor did they have a clue about the product

[scenic radish]

Edgerouter x is going back 😢 unless there's a decent inexpensive AP that supports a guest network it probably makes more sense for me to return it and get a router that includes a WiFi radio

Since I can't use the Google WiFi with it as an AP and still have a guest network without creating a double NAT situation

[boreal pewter]

I just detroyed my Guest Network by changing the CIDR and I can't find the problem

[valid halo]

I often feel bad for Tier 1 Outsourced support.

They get a checklist and deal with a bunch of angry people

all so that some company can save a few dollars

[forest edge]

@steel urchin that sucks, mine has been working fine all morning

[steel urchin]

Damn... hate when i get hit by what the 1-star reviews have... https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B07ZJS3L5Y/ref=acr_dp_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar

yeah give it another 8ish hours

[valid halo]

Well damnatoin

[forest edge]

i didn't have to upgrade my transformer. my 22vac powered it just fine

[valid halo]

At least you have a nice paperweight

[steel urchin]

mine worked fine for about 8hours, then went kaput... video was absolute garbage over rtsp and app didn't want to even see it online... factory reset, all good... woke up this morning, no video over rtsp and app says it's offline

i'm going to swap it and see what happens

[forest edge]

yea i'd swap it before giving up

so far the majority of the reviews have been positive given it's price point

[steel urchin]

just sucks it takes so long for shit to show up, and i'm going out of town

[forest edge]

I mean it is an 89 buck video doorbell afterall, it's not going to be prestine lol

[steel urchin]

it won't even ring the doorbell anymore

[forest edge]

I need to angle mine down alittle more

be capturing UFO's atm

[steel urchin]

well... 2nd one ordered... going to factory reset for the 3x in less than 24 hours

Or... Not... It won't even respond to the reset button

[north lark]

I am currently using owntracks as a GPS tracker but am thinking of flying on ha app alone. Since it's a lot of testing involved to compare I was wondering if anyone could provide any experience report or maybe even recommendations.

[steel urchin]

flipped breaker to pull power, booted up and now rtsp and functions work, except app doesn't see it online - yet still tells me when motion fires and button push brings up the call screen with broken video

lovely

[forest edge]

@steel urchin how do you break everything you touch? lol

[steel urchin]

it's clearly not just me

[forest edge]

maybe you got a short in the wiring

[steel urchin]

nah, it's the unit

[forest edge]

if the camera is constantly micro grounding out it would cause it to fail

[steel urchin]

so just got off the phone with them, apparently it's a well known issue

their solution is to just replace it, so we'll give it another try

the technician i finally got to speak to said they've been having about a 30% failure rate as of late

[forest edge]

that sucks

well atleast they admit there is an issue so replacement won't be an issue

[steel urchin]

amazon is surprisingly painless to return to, i just go to kohl's and drop it off

just a pain to get the stuff 🤣

[forest edge]

finally got all my motion shit switched over so I could turn off the little pi cam i havve in the window lol

[steel urchin]

i wonder if the hikvision works with the standard wiring or if it's required to use POE?

[forest edge]

that's who makes the RCA one i was lookign at before

that was like like around 100 bucks and then went to like 150ish

[steel urchin]

that one seems tried and true, but i can't find it anywhere

i don't want to order from china, it'll take forever to get here and likely won't be able to return if there's issues

ah, nvm.. here it is: https://amzn.to/2RiGlvP

[forest edge]

ya thats the one

that was what i was lookin at

[steel urchin]

has the better vertical view

[forest edge]

if you put an sdcard in your doorbell don't forget to remove it lol

[steel urchin]

i didn't

i was reading you have to have cloud service to access the sdcard

[forest edge]

on what?

not this doorbell

[steel urchin]

the amcrest

i was reading the documentation

and then saw it in the amazon reviews as well

[forest edge]

thats bs

[steel urchin]

yyyeeeep

[forest edge]

as in not true, i already tried that lol

[steel urchin]

you get 1 year free when you create an account

at least NOW you do, you used to not

either way, i don't have one in there... so i'm good there

[scenic radish]

anyone happen to know if this is a decent router? https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AC1750-Smart-WiFi-Router/dp/B079JD7F7G/

[clear ferry]

Tplink🤢

[forest edge]

i wouldn't go with tp-link myself but I read they aren't horrible

[clear ferry]

Almost as shitty as you can go

In my experience

[forest edge]

stick with the more tried and true brand, asus, linksys, netgear ect

[scenic radish]

How did I know that was coming atx 🙄

[clear ferry]

[scenic radish]

I have a few tp-link switches

[boreal pewter]

Why no USG?

[scenic radish]

Price

[forest edge]

switches and such is one thing

[scenic radish]

And I'd need an AP

[clear ferry]

Asus are supposedly decent, but I haven't used consumer routers in almost 20 years so I don't know

[scenic radish]

And I don't need commercial hardware lol

[boreal pewter]

The Asus good one I know is 400 bucks I think tho

[forest edge]

I've stuck with linksys my whole life and never had one let me down

even the cheap crap like the e1200 lol

stick tomato or ddwrt on it and the device is worth more than it's sticker lol

[scenic radish]

I didn't think Netgear would be above tp-link

I thought those were shite

[forest edge]

netgear isn't bad

[dusky plank]

my camera 🙂 https://imgur.com/a/SCOICJE
i love rtsp

[hearty depot]

@scenic radish Please not a tplink

[clear ferry]

Netgear was some of the worst crap around the millennium atleast

[hearty depot]

still is

[forest edge]

yea thier lower end stuff is garbage

[boreal pewter]

Ugh Neverknowledge

[forest edge]

but thier high tier is actually decent

[clear ferry]

All I need to know is pfsense does what o tell it 😛

[forest edge]

lol

[steel urchin]

i've been happy for the last few years with my Netgear R7000

[dusky plank]

@scenic radish i love mine with openwrt

[clear ferry]

Untangle was ok, but just not good enough

[brisk glen]

.... UniFi

[boreal pewter]

USG Gang

[clear ferry]

Unifi 🤢

[brisk glen]

Lol

[hearty depot]

oh yea.. got a openwrt one laying around too

[scenic radish]

The Netgear ac1000 seems promising

[boreal pewter]

Lol

[hearty depot]

https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/667091562379083796

[brisk glen]

@boreal pewter going to get a UDM Pro?

[forest edge]

@steel urchin i will say the rtsp stream of this camera isn't true 1080

infact i think they upscale from 720 in the app

[brisk glen]

1080 upscale yay

[scenic radish]

I guess I should specify I don't want or need enterprise hardware. Just need a dual-band router that supports NAT loopback, port forwarding, a guest network, and (maybe) VLANs

And there are so many I can't decide lol

[forest edge]

lol not vvlans not again

[brisk glen]

As soon as you said vlans

[scenic radish]

Ehh I said maybe

[brisk glen]

Bye consumer

[scenic radish]

Then no vlan. Just a guest network

[hearty depot]

may way was
several! boxes from the ISP
netgear Nighthawk
Linksys wrt ACsomething,
TPlink Archer c50
ER-x + uAP

[brisk glen]

Eero

Amplifi

And like almost anything

[dusky plank]

@scenic radish ac1750 v2 is what I have and OpenWrt has a good community with this device. IF you don't need gbit Lan-Wan! If then get the opensource netgear thingy with openwrt... looks like a frickin spider

[forest edge]

@scenic radish pick from this list lol https://www.tech21century.com/best-tomato-routers/

[hearty depot]

the TPlink Archer was fun . Such a security nightmare that it runs OpenWRT now
Want it? @scenic radish

[steel urchin]

Yeah I'm returning it @forest edge ... and getting the Nelly

[dusky plank]

Wrt 1900ACS if you have gigabit wan

[steel urchin]

i just hope it covers all the holes made from now 3 doorbells

[scenic radish]

Thank you to those who actually helped and didn't just 🤢 lol

[steel urchin]

i don't want to have to try and match paint on a 2mo old house lol

[forest edge]

it should the nelly one is huge lol

i guess i'll let you know tomorrow or later tonight if mine starts to act weird lol

but so far been pretty solid for the last 4ish hours

[scenic radish]

@hearty depot no i don't, good to know

[steel urchin]

i had it up on VLC for almost the entirety of the install, and then it went kaput... right now everything works except video FROM the app (which i know isn't an issue for you, but right now it is for me)

and the amcrest integration doesn't work

[forest edge]

@steel urchin should givve me your security screw cause i f'in lost mine lol

[dusky plank]

you can tune those things and set your wifi db to 30db or more..
of course I don't do any of this, this is of course illegal depending on where you live

[steel urchin]

lol now who's bad with stuff?

[forest edge]

stupid how it is on the bottom

slipped out of my hand and no idea where it went

[steel urchin]

actually i felt the way all the screws in the damn thing were a pain in the butt

because they're bugle-heads it shifted my plate because i wasn't 1-trillion percent accurate in my angle

so all the tapping and aligning to make it level meant jack shit once i screwed it in

granted, it's only off by a little bit and isn't really visible to be crooked, it irked me

[forest edge]

lol

invest in a punch

makes that stuff way easier

need to figure out how to pipe the doorbell notification in ha without using the amecrest intergartion

oh gross i don't think the amcrest api can do local lol

[steel urchin]

i have one somewhere but it's hard to find in all my boxes... still need to do a lot of stuff in the garage

i both love and hate this video lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rb1dvLmmsk

[scenic radish]

🚪 🔔 🎥

[forest edge]

the first revision of that doorbell someone had made custom firmware for it which I wanted

but i couldn't find the damn thing for sale anywhere

[last dirge]

who was pimping the TS-100?

@tidal bronze ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uGS11yuVyo

[tidal bronze]

Yep

Few of them running https://github.com/Ralim/ts100

[steel urchin]

only thing about this nelly doorbell is i don't know what the best way to integrate it is

it says onvif support but people have had problems with it not fully working (but don't explain what's not working to know if it's user error or what)..

[forest edge]

it dosen't like being cut off from the internet that's for sure

the rtsp dosen't stop or anything

but my indicator light flashes 4 times then pauses lol

kind of annoying i will admit, minor thing but still

I hope it stops over time

this is why I don't support any of the youtubers even when they do find something interesting. not one of them goes into real detail when reviewing products lol

[steel urchin]

well i re-ordered it, should be here mon/tues so i'll swap it out and see how it goes

going to go back to the 24VA transformer as well, as the tech specs say 16-24 is supported...

for all i know that could have caused an issue as well

should be quick since the plate is already on there, just replace the actual doorbell, and the transformer was a simple 10 minute thing (and now that i found my headlamp will be easier than working in the dark)

[dusky plank]

bobs

[forest edge]

lol

may have to do an operation on mine if the light dosen't stop blinking

I wonder if it's squaking over not reaching a the time server

[hearty depot]

A pi3 with ssd is running my 2nd ha instance(light and light remotes). But not as higly available as needed. Thinking about a a orange pi or so. Good idea?

€ 54,63 | Orange Pi 4 4GB DDR4+16GB EMMC Flash Rockchip RK3399 Dual-core+Quad-core Cortex Development Board Support Android,ubuntu,debian
https://a.aliexpress.com/_cpBRT6

[clever mortar]

The Orange Pi range isn't as well supported as the Raspberry ones, but I'm preferring my Orange Pi Zero to the Raspberry Pi Zero it replaced

[clear ferry]

Different manufacturers?

[hearty depot]

The emmc storage adds the value as far as I can tell/understand
Would guess that I can throw Debian on it and good to runble

[clever mortar]

Yeah, they run hotter, and run Armbian rather than Raspbian/Debian

[clear ferry]

Never even heard of before

[hearty depot]

Eeh.. the Pi's are already so hot 👎

[clear ferry]

Banana pi

Lichee pi

[dusky plank]

Team Odroid

[hearty depot]

Lol a stolen pi 3 with a card slot

[forest edge]

@steel urchin more bad news. https://ipvm.com/reports/dahua-oem this is who makes the doorbell it's just rebranded lol

there's even a config tool that will let you assign a static ip to the thing, but dosen't appear to do much else

[steel urchin]

sooo... they're selling banned products?

just went back to the old transformer

[forest edge]

they banned many products OEMS were selling from Dahua

I don't see the doorbell being on the list but that dosen't exactly make it alright lol

[steel urchin]

yeah....

[forest edge]

apparently there has been a crap ton of foul play both through lack of security as well as even a backdoor thing lol

need a user manual? this is the same doorbell, just looks alittle diffrent lol https://fccid.io/SVNDHI-DB11/User-Manual/User-Manual-3805628

[steel urchin]

Are you ditching it?

[forest edge]

no

[steel urchin]

Aka, ding dong ditch 🤣

[forest edge]

most of it is audio type crap

[steel urchin]

Well I'm back on the old transformer, the new one will be here Monday-ish

[forest edge]

like them being able to hack in the audio feed, wtf do i care if they listen to outside my door lol

[steel urchin]

Right? Don't event care if they see the feed either

[forest edge]

plus i cut the doorbell off the net comletelly so they can't evven do that

as long as it ding dongs and pipes the rtsp feed thats all i care about lol

[steel urchin]

i really like the idea of talking to the person at the door

[forest edge]

and if the blink continue to blink, well the light will go poof lol

[steel urchin]

so i can tell a door to door salesman (although we haven't had any, don't think they'll even be allowed in) to fuck off

i'll def need to look at motioneye since the integration is doodoo

sensors don't even register due to not being able to hit the api properly

(which i also am wondering if was causing some internal server error by basically DOSing itself due to 500 errors)

YAFR (yet another factory reset) and it's back up and running

let's see how long it lasts with the integration off and the transformer back to the lower voltage

[forest edge]

hope digiblurDIY dosen't get mad for plastering the truth on his video but oh well, people should know lol

@steel urchin integration is trash imo because it relies soley on the api. not only is there a minimum 10 second throttle that dosen't include any additional delay with network.

[steel urchin]

yeah the feed was super delayed

[forest edge]

so the motion sensor will be as fast as 10 seconds behind actual motion ect

[steel urchin]

so motioneye will shim the feature?

[forest edge]

motioneye is instant

[steel urchin]

shoot, might as well look into it.. after i clean my keyboard.. got some weird grease on it from touching tools :S

[forest edge]

well as instant as it can from feed to motioneye ect

the rtsp feed into motioneye is not 30fps tho

it fluctuates but some stuttering is bound to happen and it floats around 20fps or so

which is perfectly fine by me, but don't go thinking it's gonna be buttery smooth lol

you want buttery smooth you need a better wired cam

[steel urchin]

i do like butter, but i can live with 20fps.. i'm assuming that's because of all the processing motioneye does?

also what are you running on? i forget

[forest edge]

on an rpi4 so it may be better/diffrent for you

[steel urchin]

ah, yeah i'm on an i7 4770k... we'll see in a few...

easy to add, not a fan it stores credentials in plain text

i'm idling around 29.9 fps

sounds good to me

well if you find a way to get rid of the default timestamp junk i'd love it

lol I loaded up the IP config util and it instantly went offline, and bleh

[forest edge]

lol

i don't think the timestamp can be removed

[steel urchin]

i had found this https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/Tx1GXWDWNVP94D1

it found it.. i started going through the panels and it went offline

[forest edge]

what ip config

oh some amcrest software lol

oh shit thats a clone of the config thing i mentioned earlier from dahu lol

[steel urchin]

just power cycled the breaker again, turns out i have to leave it off for a full minute, it holds power pretty good

jesus, this thing is so finnicky... i left it off for 5min just now to try and factory reset it again... gotta wait for it to boot up...

[forest edge]

I tried to up the fps alittle and it rebooted back to same settings lol

[steel urchin]

mine is non responsive now

i hear a tiny light click sound when i hold the reset button down for ~10s, presumably the speaker getting some light power then dying... light is on, but no ding dong, no reset, no nothing

[forest edge]

had me alittle excited there for a sec

thought it was gonna let me up some of the values

I wonder if the high fps is what caused your to crap out

maybe thats why mine is set to 15 lol

[steel urchin]

yeah i set it to 30fps in that tool

[forest edge]

mine won't let me change it from 15

[steel urchin]

i don't know if it actually set or was already offline at that point

but, it sounds like a dead unit atm

[forest edge]

lol

[steel urchin]

talk about frustrating

so the new one arrives monday or tuesday, the doorbell guy is dropping a check off wednesday... i just want it to ring for him so i can rub it in his face lol

did you at least try the timestamp overlay removal?

[forest edge]

I didn't see an option for it

[steel urchin]

well at least i got a brief intro to motioneye lol

[forest edge]

lol

camera does see at night well

[hushed basalt]

The tiny click sound is most likely the IR filter

[steel urchin]

mm definitely sounds like a piezo speaker

it happens on "command" when i hold the reset button down

[forest edge]

you rebooted it so much it no longer thinks it's a camera

[steel urchin]

lol or a doorbell... thing literally only lights up and that's it

[tidal bronze]

@steel urchin doorbells don't like you.

[steel urchin]

or they're just garbage

i mean the "Senior Technician" admitted they have a 30% failure rate.. he was surprised i was able to get it to reboot at all previously

[tidal bronze]

Did you try powering it direct ?

[steel urchin]

yeah actually... direct from the transformer

[tidal bronze]

Bypassing the run ?

[steel urchin]

yep

for all i know when everyone suggested going to the 30va transformer may not have been helpful

[tidal bronze]

There is always headroom with specs.

Specially for something like a doorbell then again I don't know how they think when designing these things😄

I was going to get the amcrest and try it out. Let's see.

[proper swift]

stupid serial cables: 0 Me: 3. clean sweep.

take that DIN8

[tidal bronze]

UPS wars 🤣

[proper swift]

last one was a stupid DIN8. so silly

[steel urchin]

The tech specs list 16-24 (which i found later on a sketch ftp link), 30 is a significant overhead

[tidal bronze]

Yes/no

[steel urchin]

but either way, it was exhibiting issues within hours of install... a new one is coming along anyway

[tidal bronze]

Regulator in such a device will not be 16-24 if the spec is 16-24, always considerably higher

[steel urchin]

should have seen the rtsp feed (when nothing else was working)... looked like a 8-bit filter 🤣

i love this Ron Swanson character, he's hilarious

[forest edge]

WTF

this camera had outbound traffic to some goverment office in OH DoD

yea department of defense

[steel urchin]

did you wave?

[forest edge]

no idea what it sent

i promplty put it back on block lol

there was like tons of outbound to amazon tech, then i started to see the dod shit and was like wtf is going on lol

[steel urchin]

huh... why would it send anything to either?

[valid halo]

No clue.

Why would the DoD want to see a random ass camera

[proper swift]

darn. stupid webcard lost it's firmware, needs a new driver file.

well.. my 4th device, that has a gen-U-ine DB9 on it. that should be easy for a change.

I bet I can get it right in 2 tries. 🙂

[forest edge]

so apparently amazon handles thier api

[wet pilot]

makes sense

[rain swift]

the gooberment sniffs everything

they only look if you get on their radar

[steel urchin]

ah so like an aws proxy

[proper swift]

Do not locate the switch near any data or electrical cabling.

manual for my 48port gige switch

[steel urchin]

wireless, battery operated switch! huzzah!

[proper swift]

new switch just INFERS data!

[steel urchin]

put a million packet monkeys in a room...

[hushed basalt]

@forest edge what camera

[forest edge]

shame this thing had such potential

[scenic radish]

@modest sentinel dude that Sylvania light strip is bright as hell

[forest edge]

that amcrest ad110 or whatever

[scenic radish]

Just got it today. Now I need to find a use for it lol

[forest edge]

put it abovve your head in the bedroom and automate it to turn on when we ping you from discord

[scenic radish]

Excellent idea

[hushed basalt]

Can't you just block it

[forest edge]

I did block it

BUT

the stupid light ring around the button flashes when it can't call china or the DoD apaprently

[hushed basalt]

Lol

[proper swift]

wow

[hushed basalt]

There might be a setting for that

Perhaps

[forest edge]

I looked all over

lol

[hushed basalt]

:(

Did you look inside the computer

[forest edge]

it's about to get an operation tomorrow with my soldering iron

[steel urchin]

could you sniff to see what it's looking for, and stub it out?

[forest edge]

thats what i was doing when i found out it was pinging the DoD lol

then i blocked it promptly

[steel urchin]

that's weird to me it'd be hitting DoD

found this earlier https://www.ebay.com/itm/Uniden-Wireless-Doorbell-Security-Camera-1080p-Wifi-Video-Door-Bell-Ring-Chime/303069930405?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2763.l2649

[forest edge]

@steel urchin thats the same camera i think

[steel urchin]

yeah basically

juts different body

[forest edge]

almost has me wondering if it's the same thing in that shelly camera even tho that one looks drasticly diffrent

[steel urchin]

nelly?

i think that one is the RCA one

[forest edge]

that DB1 is all over the Dauf or whatever the hell that company was

so if you see DB1 thats an indicator

this amcrest ip config thing allows you to upload firmware

so maybe someone will come up with something

or maybe theres already something i haven['t found yet

[steel urchin]

Go go gadget Sonoma!

I'm about to give the dogs a bath and break my back more. Weeee

[wet pilot]

should automate that 😛

[hushed basalt]

Is there something like tasker but for windows

Basically I'm using a windows 10 tablet as a dashboard

And I want something that can turn the screen on and off based off camera motion, external calls etc

[wet pilot]

hmm

maybe autohotkey?

i'm not really aware of anything specific

windows might not look too fondly at that kind of thing. would behave too closely to malware

[steel urchin]

Ahk is easy to grasp, although it has horrible syntax

[wet pilot]

it really does

[steel urchin]

I made a workspace manager with it, spent maybe 2 hours working the actual working part of it, and another 2 weeks for the shitty gui 🤣

[valid halo]

auto hot key. I've heard of this before

[wet pilot]

i used it to drop a signature into our shitty ticketing system

[steel urchin]

i've wanted to go clean up the code, but it works well enough for my uses

[hushed basalt]

I wonder how good python is at controlling and listening to windows desktop events

I could run a flask API on the laptop :D

And hit it with ha REST

[modest sentinel]

@scenic radish lol, yeah told ya that thing was good! glad you got it

[wet pilot]

w32api i think is the module you want

i used it to automate some ms outlook stuff in the past

a tool to create webex meeting invites and then add details to a ticket

pywin32

also, here's the docs because they don't link to it from their github for some dumb reason: http://timgolden.me.uk/pywin32-docs/

[steel urchin]

depending on what exactly you're trying to do, AHK really does have some nice features, like waiting for a window to be available, m/k simulation, etc

[scenic radish]

@modest sentinel except... now i need to find a use for it lol

[wet pilot]

disco lights whenever someone complains about something in #330944238910963714 / #330990055533576204

add some ML to identify the complaints

[steel urchin]

or go green every time ATX splats a 🤢

[wet pilot]

or just assume whenever someone without a role speaks its a complaint 😛

[scenic radish]

both are good ideas

thank

[wet pilot]

/s

[steel urchin]

damn

i haz no role

[wet pilot]

lol so make sure to talk a lot to give Ted a seizure

[steel urchin]

ugh, it's so hard to shave without my side mounted mirror

[scenic radish]

👍

[forest edge]

still think you should mount it above your bed and turn on full bright when we ping you from discord

[scenic radish]

ah right i forgot about your idea

excellent as well

[valid halo]

Bright Light blinking and have a 70db siren go off for pings

[wet pilot]

get a klaxon

[valid halo]

"Alert! Someone Deleted their SD Card again!"

"A user needs help reading the manual!"

[wet pilot]

RTFM error

LMGTFY needed

[forest edge]

@steel urchin well you might be right. i think my camera just flaked lol

[steel urchin]

i'm always right

my wife hates it 🤣

[forest edge]

when you power cycled it you didn't have to like reset everything back up did you from scratch?

[steel urchin]

yep

i did have to... the first 3x it worked, after that i'm left with a dead unit

[daring inlet]

Yikes

[steel urchin]

i left it pulled for a few hours while i tended to other stuff and tried again, nada

well, let me rephrase... i didn't HAVE to in your use-case.. RTSP was working the first time i had to reset.. the 2nd time it was super blocky, like it was going from a 160p res to 1080p res.. so i factory reset that time.. 3rd time all video stopped working but motion and doorbell function were intact, and now on the 4th time i have a brick

[last dirge]

dead unit

heh

[forest edge]

lol

well i'm not messing with it tonight, just made sure it wasn't connected or putting off an AP and it can sit out there with it's solid blue light all night for all i care

[hushed basalt]

This is why I want a POE camerw

:D

Less cloud bullshit too. Just simple ONVIF

Just getting a camera in the right position can be tricky though

A dome mounted on the wall near the door at shoulder height is best but it can be unsightly

[steel urchin]

i just think it's cool to talk to the person at my front door without getting up 😛 or being away from the house

[hushed basalt]

True

[steel urchin]

anything else i don't really have a need for, myself

[hushed basalt]

Hikvision have one but it's probably $150USd

Poe for lyfe

[steel urchin]

yeah it's about that, and i wasn't sure if it was required PoE or what... but no way i'm running PoE through the trim n all that shit

i was hanging outside with some of the neighbor's yesterday, and one of them noticed another got the works on the cameras and stuff on her house from the security company (aka doorbell people), and while she was bragging the old man goes "if they climb over the wall or break through the gate, they deserve my stuff" and i about died of laughter inside

[hushed basalt]

They usually won't have wifi if they're poe

H265 is worth its weight in gold as well

[forest edge]

ugh

all of them are crap

[steel urchin]

yeah, so now you can stop talkin shit about my luck 😛

[forest edge]

and the scary thing is, the majority of the video doorbells belong to one of 4 companies and are rebranded lol

that nelly's one

[steel urchin]

yep

[forest edge]

people say overheats lol

[steel urchin]

thing is, when you watch the nelly vids, they make it out like they created that hardware

but, it's clearly a rebrand of older hardware

[forest edge]

I don't like the look of that one but as messed up as it is, it's still one of the better ones aside from what we already got lmao

yea it's hikovision or whatever

rca sells it, nelly and ezvidz or something

[steel urchin]

i've seen like 5 or 6 companies rebranded it

some changed the bodies, most haven't even bothered with that

[hushed basalt]

Hence why it's good to just get a professional poe camera and a zigbee button a lot of the time

[forest edge]

well there is only like 4 video doorbell companies hogging the market, and each has thier shit rebranded so many times you can't tell what is what lol

[steel urchin]

i'm just not going to shell out $600 for all that crap

for a doorbell

[wet pilot]

its like jasco for some of the zwave stuff

[steel urchin]

yeah but at least they have licensing hoops to jump through

i wouldn't even know where to begin on how to wire the front door for POE

[wet pilot]

drillydrilly hole

[steel urchin]

my wires came out of a super tiny itty bitty hole, i had to drill some holes under it and use my tiniest chisel to clean it out so the wires would fit somewhere when i put the amcrest in place

[forest edge]

lol

yea that shit is for remodel or new house construct

I wouldn't even try and do mine

[steel urchin]

yeah, this house i didn't get any say in the build :S

or i wouldn't have this shitty knockdown texture

[forest edge]

sweet amazon just dropped off my replacement doorbell

[steel urchin]

what?!

HOW?

[forest edge]

haha just pulling your leg, figured you'd freak lol

[steel urchin]

i live in one of the largest amazon nodes in the US

lol bastard!

[wet pilot]

GOTTEM

[steel urchin]

he really did

[scenic radish]

https://media.tenor.com/images/64c2ab74adbfabb798cb2f1cc18d0f5f/tenor.gif

[steel urchin]

lol someone should ban that image and watch him freak out

[wet pilot]

lol

he'll just have a different url

[forest edge]

need to figure out what i want to do cause just replacing it seems like a bad idea lol

[hushed basalt]

Where I live most houses are double brick with cavity

So running things on external walls isn't too painful

[steel urchin]

well i'm replacing it to give it a shot... but if you see something that screams "buy me" please let me know...

[forest edge]

the only thing about this thing that screamed that was rstp and 89 bucks lol

nothing else has both of those

[wet pilot]

$20 too expensive to be nice

[scenic radish]

n 🧊 !

[forest edge]

@scenic radish you got that light automated yet?

[steel urchin]

that ebay one you said was the same?

or was it the same as the nelly one?

[forest edge]

DB1

yea

[steel urchin]

ffs my back is killing

the nelly, right... i like the lens on that one

[forest edge]

was hikovision or the daula or whateverr

[steel urchin]

huh.. the hikvision i've seen looks like a mace spray

the poe one

[forest edge]

nelly says DB2 maybe it's an updated version and not the one that overheats lol

[steel urchin]

i almost pulled the trigger on it, but i'm pissed about having put more holes in the trim board

i've seen the eufy one mentioned quite a bit - https://amzn.to/30pDbKO

119-10 right now

but... digital chime which would take up an outlet :S

it's astounding how this got such great reviews

[forest edge]

they don't support rtsp on that (yet)

course you like the app stuff so that shouldn't bother you lol

I like some of the reviews on some of these cameras, posts a picture of a blob that looks like a person with the review of 5 stars, images look great!

[steel urchin]

i mean i DO want a stream, seems more flexible

[valid halo]

These days I've heard that you've got to worry about Bot reviews/paid reviews

Company offers to reimburse you if you give a 5 star

or you get a coupon or some thing

[forest edge]

wondering if using the rtsp is what killed this amcrest lol

cause codex said he ran it through vlc all night as well

prob overheated and died

[steel urchin]

rofl look at THIS https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71job4GFMsL.jpg

nightmare fuel for me

[wild grove]

Dang it. I was looking at those amcrests

[steel urchin]

yep

that and/or constantly hitting the broken api

it was kinda warm to the touch, but not sure how shielded it is

it's free returns for me, i'm going to try it a few times to see how it goes.. might get one that lasts?

[forest edge]

lol try not using rtsp for a few days and see what happens

if it lives then try rtsp and dee if it dies

i just clicked on 104 without making a snashot lol

living dangerously!

[steel urchin]

i've been slowly reading the change log

gonna need to work on my light group or somethin

[forest edge]

psshh read, who reads

[steel urchin]

anyone notice a google search ui update today?

favicons along each result?

[clear ferry]

Hasn't it been like that for a while?

Or..

[steel urchin]

i just noticed it about a few hours ago

[scenic radish]

Same

[modest sentinel]

I didn't get that yet 😦

so I bought a reef tank to upgrade from my 30gal

and well.. it's fucking huge

kinda bigger than I expected. I pick up the woman from the airport in 40 mins so I'll see her reaction...

[wet pilot]

disappoint

[modest sentinel]

not yet, still strongly considering keeping.. also it was a bitch to move

250lb just for the glass...

[proper swift]

glass is heavy. 🙂

[modest sentinel]

gonna have to make sure the floor can handle the weight because it'll be closer to a ton fully stocked

should have done that first, but I didn't have time

[proper swift]

but if you get an apex, ping me.. I have a ton of scripts and API toys for one. 🙂

[modest sentinel]

is that a controller?

[proper swift]

yah

[modest sentinel]

ill look that up. There are lots of youtube videos in my future

[proper swift]

I have a few things, one of which is an apex->influxdb data feeder

[modest sentinel]

i got a reefer 525, custom stand, I need to get a skimmer and a ro/di unit

[proper swift]

neptune apex. really good stuff. I have 2. 🙂

[modest sentinel]

on the page now 🙂

[scenic radish]

@forest edge check PM

[wet pilot]

rude

[modest sentinel]

@proper swift what tank do you have? have any pics?

[proper swift]

I have a 125 and an 800

[modest sentinel]

800 o_O

[proper swift]

https://www.garbled.net/

oops.. pics link is down.. oh well.

[modest sentinel]

that is insane, I love it

did you have to do anything for the floor to support it? I imagine so

[proper swift]

it's on a slab

ahh.. fixed the backend images server.. thats better

[modest sentinel]

ahh, thanks

well, it kinda works 🙂

[narrow marten]

Anyone in venv tonight?

[proper swift]

the 800 is still in progress. lots and lots of work

[modest sentinel]

what's your favorite livestock in there?

i bet

[proper swift]

Just got a copperband, always wanted one, seems to be doing well.. about a month so far

[modest sentinel]

thumbnails work but fullsize images dont, i get the idea if i squint though

[proper swift]

hrmm.. odd.. I'll have to check from external again

[narrow marten]

I have a 29 full of guppies

[proper swift]

wierd.. they don't load on first view but reload makes them show up

gotta fix that later. 🙂

[modest sentinel]

all that for one copperband?! hah

still stocking it up and all i guess

[proper swift]

naw, I have other stuff.. I take a very slow approach

[modest sentinel]

i can appreciate that... looking at my tank right now I definitely want to take it slow

[proper swift]

I'm not the "throw a bunch in and then chase fixing it" type. I'm the slowly add and rebalance

[narrow marten]

How long has the tank been running?

[proper swift]

Technically 10 years, but there was a massive crash a few years ago. in it's current incarnation 1 year. (the crash was a house flood that took out all the support equipment, a mains pipe burst)

[modest sentinel]

ah that sucks, sorry to hear that

[proper swift]

things occur.

[modest sentinel]

"the glass is already broken"

[narrow marten]

Shit! No fun... it takes me months to get a fresh tank right, I can’t imagine what salt tanks take

[proper swift]

off2bed. 🙂 buy an apex. you won't regret it.

[modest sentinel]

will do, thanks for the tip

I made note to reach out to you if/when I do

[clear ferry]

@proper swift @dull chasm also loves tanks, you too can probably exchange a few ideas, I know he has put a lot of effort into them

[steel urchin]

watching this episode, that is hilarious

https://giphy.com/gifs/mila-kunis-moodboard-dancing-ron-swan-Qp2UhKUI69LzO

[forest edge]

WOOOOOT! mdi:string-lights in da house!

[wet pilot]

rofl

[tidal bronze]

@wet pilot found it. 😀

[wet pilot]

😄

somewhere cute?

[tidal bronze]

Box inside a box with all gen 1 CC stuff

[wet pilot]

nice

now to sell it for $100

(or to use it)

[tidal bronze]

Already running with little bit of sauce 🤣

[forest edge]

they don't sell those anymore or something?

[wet pilot]

nope, got killed

[forest edge]

oh wow

[wet pilot]

with no viable replacement

[tidal bronze]

Yep pretty sad

[forest edge]

ew that means they could kill, kill it at any time then

[tidal bronze]

Let's hope not

[forest edge]

i have that first gen chromecast as well, looks just like that lol

[wet pilot]

i think i still have one somewhere

i gave at least one of them away to family

[tidal bronze]

I have 2 left. Can't join speaker groups

[forest edge]

I bought one hoping it was going to be more than what it was and over time they made it do less lol

cause you use to be able to launch apps from it

[tidal bronze]

5 or 6 Alexa minis as paper weights as well

[forest edge]

that sucks

[last dirge]

alexa mini?

[tidal bronze]

The small round things. Lol. That was short lived at my place

[last dirge]

oh

the dot

[tidal bronze]

Yep those.

[last dirge]

that bitch does everything at my house

[clear ferry]

[tidal bronze]

I went head first when they released but after GH pulled them out. Oh there's 1 for drop in in the garage

Spotcast creater definitely deserves some coffee 😀

[wet pilot]

i have one, kinda wish i had 2 but oh well

[tidal bronze]

Dot ?

[steel urchin]

we have a dot and a show

show is neat but meh

[wet pilot]

CC-As

[tidal bronze]

I am looking for my other one.

Got a spare 12" sub that I want to sync low end in the living area.

[wet pilot]

heh

[tidal bronze]

With delay adjustment possibilities are limitless

Plan is to sync 5 subs on 3 different platforms all using CCA lol

[wet pilot]

all about that bass

[tidal bronze]

Yep. Not using Klipsch wireless link.

All because of https://github.com/fondberg/spotcast👍

[forest edge]

@steel urchin you leaving your brick powered all night? i disconnected mine, don't want to risk any spazing waking me up in the middle of the night lol

[steel urchin]

I cut the power to the transformer for now

Sucks cuz I'm about to head out of town and don't have even a basic doorbell

But what would wake you up?

[wet pilot]

🔥

[forest edge]

my phone alarm wakes me up just fine

oh he's asking

[wet pilot]

fire would hopefully wake you up

[forest edge]

I dunno the chime spazing maybe

in the middle of the night cause the doorbell is freaking out

[steel urchin]

Oh damn yours is going crazy?

[valid halo]

Fire is polite. It doesn't wake me

[steel urchin]

Mine just stopped

[forest edge]

NO, it's not, i don't want to risk it lol

[valid halo]

You're being prepare and not taking risk

Good

👍

[wet pilot]

🔥

😄

[valid halo]

Fire and lots of it is your solution to everything phnx

[wet pilot]

wish i could send some to some of my customers

[valid halo]

"package for you." "oh boy what is I-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

[steel urchin]

eh i just rigged the basic doorbell to it... i'm just worried about breaking the wires... solid copper and like 18awg

i've bent them so many times afraid they'll snap... might solder some stranded wire and heat shrink it so i can keep messing with stuff and not mess up the original wiring

[forest edge]

lol

[steel urchin]

the wire is coiled up above, there's probably what feels like 10ft coiled up right under the transformer, but i dunno if it's stapled or not... might try seeing if i can pull more out and go from there

[forest edge]

nothing wrong with soldering stranded wire onto the solid coper. it's all low voltage so it's not like it's gonna melt lol

[clear ferry]

[wet pilot]

that fire is better

[forest edge]

it's weird, literally the other day I made a comment about how to make an entity remain when it doesn't exist (ie unplugged) after a restart, i get my wish today and now i'm annoyed at having to "clean" entities that were a blessing to be auto removed prior lol

[wet pilot]

rofl

can't win

[clear ferry]

@wet pilot mine are always better

[wet pilot]

@forest edge 1 6-pack plox for the complaint 😛

[forest edge]

lol

wtf, when did discord add the markdown popup when you highlight your own message? I just now seeing this lol

[steel urchin]

yesterday

[forest edge]

gots a good feeling 104 is going to bring a lot of people here for questions lol

[wet pilot]

releases always do

i might have to quit discord while at work tomorrow 😛

[clear ferry]

I'm not going to update to 104 yet

2 days before departure

[hushed basalt]

https://media.tenor.com/images/3f812694078827e0c495b7a692426275/tenor.gif

[forest edge]

I'm not going to update to 104 yet

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1003646515643159423/F968485EE056D446C2A08A2D3BD57BEB31054D1D/

epic no animation fail

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/track/2374M0fQpWi3dLnB54qaLX?si=Zi4mP7koSDeWnR8uPIU6mg

Probably one of the best songs ever

even though the live versions are great, the studio version always gets me more

[clear ferry]

zzzz my job today got cancelled, so now I just have a conf call at 12

waiting zzzzzzz

https://open.spotify.com/track/74xaQZzGBf7JsjgMLFo8Mc?si=y6KRhdQvQiygmstmrs9QTA

[hushed basalt]

Reeeeeeeeee

[clear ferry]

Dreamweaver wow.....

I haven't heard that name in.... almost 20 years

[ocean mirage]

That’s gotta be public sector surely

[forest edge]

dreamweaver use to be the premium way to manage/create sites lol

the built in ftp ect and file management was pretty cutting edge at the time

i used it lol

[clear ferry]

@ocean mirage nöt cölling möds töday ?

[ocean mirage]

I can't read that

pure gibberish

[clear ferry]

Whæt ær jø mæning ?

[ocean mirage]

noot coolling moods tooday

[clear ferry]

hmf

I should probably start packing my stuff soon

and charging my devices that I will bring along for the flight

[ocean mirage]

what is your choice on entertainment on flight

[clear ferry]

I'll just sync a lot of plex stuff

bring my phone, ipad and kindle on board

oh lawd have mercy, the customer I'm confing with is running bare metal windows servers

🤢

what is this, 2003

[ocean mirage]

heh

yeah plex sync is what I do to

and kindle

[clear ferry]

and deploying windows via pxe boot 🤢

[ocean mirage]

das boot

[clear ferry]

Someone is not going to be happy today

when they tell me they have pause flood frames

and I say it is because their ciscos suck

[hushed basalt]

Have you ever done a Wardley map

[clear ferry]

considering I had to google it

no

oh the irony

swallowing stomach acid pills with coffee

🤣

[gilded burrow]

how does one go about suggesting a new room?

I think there should be a room to discuss image processing / video analytics

currently chatting with people in both #cameras-archived and #609399695466430465

[clear ferry]

#cameras-archived you mean 🤣

it should fit in that room

for all the offical components

[gilded burrow]

but wont that include people fixing up basic issues with cameras

asking for recommendations etc

this would be specifically for using cameras with image processing / machine learning

it would be nice if the chatter regarding tools such as deepstream was all in one place

I know of at least 3 of us (and ive barely looked) that are building similar components

[clear ferry]

almost sounds more like a #developers topic then

[gilded burrow]

its a visibility issue, that would make it worse

edge AI is just taking off

and loads of people will be adding corals and jetson nanos

[clear ferry]

edge AI has been the talk for years already, if it is taking off is another discussion 😉 I started discussing it with developers atleast 4 years ago

but implementations however are slow

[gilded burrow]

hitting mainstream is what I mean

affordable, available, usable

particularly regarding camera analytics

its such a rich source of sensor info

thats previously been off limits unless you wanted to violate your privacy

I think the downsides of having an extra room are outweighed by increasing collaboration for developers working on similar topics

[clear ferry]

I don't see the need, but maybe mods do, just don't ping them or they'll make @ocean mirage out of you

🤣

[gilded burrow]

who handles most of the discord setup?

I'd rather just ping one person than a whole team