#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 426

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:21 PM

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it can still probe your network

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😛

clever mortar Jan 11, 2020, 9:23 PM

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So can the little green men

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 9:24 PM

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i'll check it out again when i can.. dealing with more drama today

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:24 PM

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I have some old configs I need to clean up

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and pointless group removed

clear ferry Jan 11, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Yeah, I don't care what it does inside my network

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I thought you meant it reached the internet by piggybacking on another device over L2

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:25 PM

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oh no

clear ferry Jan 11, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Hence my confusion

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:26 PM

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I just like to fully isolate chinese shit

clear ferry Jan 11, 2020, 9:26 PM

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That is just... Paranoid Android 😛

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But then again, I love isolating those pesky American devices

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ThonkEyes

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:27 PM

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I isolate all IoT

clever mortar Jan 11, 2020, 9:27 PM

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I like to isolate each device in a VLAN all of its own, just to be sure

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:27 PM

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I kinda do that now

wet pilot Jan 11, 2020, 9:28 PM

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ALL THE VLANS

clear ferry Jan 11, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Did you remember to put the tinfoil on all the antennas too @clever mortar ?

clever mortar Jan 11, 2020, 9:28 PM

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I cut the traces on the boards, and then wired them to the microwave

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Just to be sure

clear ferry Jan 11, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Dalek

clever mortar Jan 11, 2020, 9:28 PM

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There's been some odd smells ever since...

wet pilot Jan 11, 2020, 9:28 PM

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heh

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:29 PM

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clear ferry Jan 11, 2020, 9:29 PM

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That is just borderline perverted

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And paranoid

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:29 PM

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everything works 😛

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kinda do not want my printer talking to my camera or lights

clear ferry Jan 11, 2020, 9:31 PM

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I'll stick with tinks philosophy rather JodieScronch

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:33 PM

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I need a faster router

clear ferry Jan 11, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Go for something proper like pfsense then 😏

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:35 PM

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UDMp 😄

clear ferry Jan 11, 2020, 9:35 PM

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None of those ubiquity or unifi shits 🤢

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:36 PM

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lol

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at least my shits have protected management frames for wireless

clear ferry Jan 11, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Nice, a possible client breaking protocol that I will probably never need 😛

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:43 PM

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good thing I can allow a mix of both and allow old clients on

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 9:43 PM

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welp for the very first time i can't SSH to my pi. connection times out. doesn't respond to pings. has a static IP outside the router DHCP pool. anyone have any other suggestions before i hard reboot?

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:44 PM

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get a better power supply

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 9:44 PM

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2.5A supply

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pi 3B+

wet pilot Jan 11, 2020, 9:44 PM

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bounce it

clever mortar Jan 11, 2020, 9:45 PM

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It's ok, it's probably a dead SD card

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 9:45 PM

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SSD 😛

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hopefully that hasn't died after 8 months...

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alright i'm gonna pull power 🤢 😩

clear ferry Jan 11, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Pi 🤢

smoky wyvern Jan 11, 2020, 9:46 PM

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sooooo i need automation ideas, glad to hear some of yours or ideas

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 9:47 PM

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i still have no clue what happened to my setup last night.. it just completely melted in front of me over hours, and somehow worked itself out to some extent.. still gonna start over though

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lol i've been having a hard time as well Lucasss

clever mortar Jan 11, 2020, 9:47 PM

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#330944238910963714 would be where to ask 😉

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Home Assistant is a banned topic in this channel 😉

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:47 PM

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you could start with cooking food

smoky wyvern Jan 11, 2020, 9:47 PM

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owhh whoops

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 9:47 PM

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||Tediore|| is a banned topic

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:48 PM

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automate that

smoky wyvern Jan 11, 2020, 9:48 PM

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hmm

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:49 PM

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and before alexa with a random food order from ubereats

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hey alexa, im hungry

smoky wyvern Jan 11, 2020, 9:50 PM

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haha sounds like a fun thing

proper swift Jan 11, 2020, 9:54 PM

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my wife got an instant pot with wifi. so.. once she hooks it up, I might have to accidentally hack it.

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 9:54 PM

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lol... i never understood connected counter appliances

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"i can control my toaster from my phone! damn... still burnt"

proper swift Jan 11, 2020, 9:55 PM

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there is a rule in my house, if there is a wifi/serial port/usb option, we get that one, because hack

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 9:55 PM

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lol

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i mean, that's a good rule

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:55 PM

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I think they are good only to send notifications that I am done

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 9:55 PM

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but i don't even use the basic timer on my coffee pot

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:55 PM

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but soo is a smart outlet with power draw monitoring.....

proper swift Jan 11, 2020, 9:56 PM

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in theory I think you can tell it how long to cook and what temp or something too.. that part seems less useful

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actually, I could see use in "turn on at X time and cook for X hours"

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:56 PM

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you still have to go in the dam kitchen

hushed basalt Jan 11, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Temp is useful

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 9:56 PM

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For the Americans that haven't heard: https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/a-new-law-bans-cable-tv-providers-from-charging-for-routers-they-dont-own/

proper swift Jan 11, 2020, 9:56 PM

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dunno.. when she hooks it up I guess I will se what it exposes

smoky wyvern Jan 11, 2020, 9:57 PM

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welll its handy to know when ur wife is done with cooking so u can come and eat it

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Lol she usually tells me

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:57 PM

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she does not say, HONNEY, IM DONE!

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?

smoky wyvern Jan 11, 2020, 9:58 PM

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haha she uses google broadcast

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 9:58 PM

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or @#$#@, get your ass in here

hushed basalt Jan 11, 2020, 9:58 PM

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WILBURRRRR, I'M HUNGRRY

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I'd love a smart oven, but not just a normal oven that can be controlled remotely

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I want an oven with PID inverter thermostats and such

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Same with the fridge. Temperature fluxates like crazy because simple thermostats and single speed motors are cheap for manufacturers

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 10:13 PM

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i dig this remake of this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qolmz4FlnZ0

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 10:23 PM

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well pulling power and rebooting fixed the issue. strange.

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nothing in lost+found so 🎉

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fsck on reboot didn't even take long

worthy sparrow Jan 11, 2020, 10:35 PM

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steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 10:44 PM

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i hate when people take photos of a screen

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and it does belong in #330944238910963714

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but if you're going to ask for help, use a screenshot

red radish Jan 11, 2020, 10:47 PM

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PITA because I dont have home internet

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Deleted so it doesnt take up room, eill move to HA channel

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Well, when that chan dies down a bit

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Alright I finally ordered an edgerouter x. I've outgrown the Google WiFi

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Oh and it's started to piss me off with a stupid issue that popped up again

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 10:52 PM

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No @scenic radish no... the edge router x only has half a Gbit routing backbone

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Get the lite

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Out of my price range unfortunately

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 10:54 PM

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:/

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Plus I know that whatever I get it's ultimately gonna be the wrong one to someone anyway 😛

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 10:58 PM

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If you got the lite, that would have been fine

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The X can only route Gbit at half duplex

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 10:59 PM

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I only have 200 down anyway

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 10:59 PM

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i mean i say get whatever you can flash tomato on...

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no point in going full enterprise

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Yah, but vlans...

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:00 PM

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... are unnecessary, and also supported on tomato

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Ehh I got the edgerouter x for $28 after discount/gift card

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:00 PM

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you're the only ~~sadist~~ masochist here man 🤣

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i always get those mixed up

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Oh nice

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:01 PM

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i was reading something about those the other day ... something about port forwarding being a pain?

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Nope

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:01 PM

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i didn't read much into it as it didn't apply to me

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Oh ffs. Forget it, I'll just live without internet access

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:02 PM

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i mean i just have a netgear ac1700... suites my needs

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Port forwarding is easy on the edge router series

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:03 PM

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I just want something with more functionality than the Google WiFi and a proper router interface. You can't even see what devices are connected to your network without the "cloud services" enabled...

clear ferry Jan 11, 2020, 11:03 PM

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@steel urchin full enterprise? Those babies? Don't wind me up 😛

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:03 PM

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So I'll just use the Google WiFi as an AP

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:03 PM

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i wasn't referring to anything specific

clear ferry Jan 11, 2020, 11:04 PM

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I have a IRF cluster in my core PedoBearD

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 11:04 PM

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@scenic radish then you should be happy with it

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:04 PM

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dude just wants to watch porn lol

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Of course, I need to break out my old Windows laptop to do the initial setup since I don't have an Ethernet adapter for my Chromebook lol

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:05 PM

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this is you guys rn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s664NsLeFM

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clear ferry Jan 11, 2020, 11:05 PM

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@scenic radish noob 😛

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Some one went a litte too google happy and is having regrets

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Ehh. I like my Google stuff, just not the router anymore

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Key word, soon anymore

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:07 PM

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The Chromebook has a Debian VM built in and I can run VSCode on it with no issues so I'm happy

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And it has a proper terminal of course

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 11:08 PM

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... you cheated for Linux lol

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:09 PM

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I'm fact, installing Debian packages works transparently. The programs appear in the launcher in ChromeOS so it's not a dual-boot situation

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Hey, whatever man. You don't need to like it lol

brisk glen Jan 11, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Lol

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:10 PM

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your money, your prerogative

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insert britney spears here

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:10 PM

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I do most of my Linux stuff on my pi anyway. As far as linux on the Chromebook I really just use the terminal to SSH to the pi

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:11 PM

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ooh better yet

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bobby brown

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how much is a chromebook?

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my garage laptop needs a replacement

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Varies widely. Got mine for $400. 15" 1920x1080 IPS touchscreen with numeric keypad and backlit keyboard, Pentium gold (lower binned i3), 4GB RAM

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:12 PM

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i got this hp omen 17 (i7-8750, nvidia 1070, 32gb ram, and 1tb ssd) for $350... should have gotten 2

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oh hell...

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:13 PM

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There are like $150 ones too lol

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:13 PM

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https://laptopmedia.com/laptop-specs/hp-omen-17-76/ that's what i have...

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scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:13 PM

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That's a steal

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:13 PM

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i have a IFTTT scanning a bunch of RSS for deals

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:13 PM

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How tf did you get that for $350

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:13 PM

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my discord is littered with amazing deals 😛

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Obviously fell off the back of a truck and someone found it and sold it lol

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:13 PM

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i walked into walmart, said "I'll take that please", they rang it up, i paid, and walked out

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no, fully legally tendered transaction

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it was just on clearance

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walmart does that a bunch, actually

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:14 PM

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I do rather enjoy the 12 hour battery life

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:14 PM

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stupidly drops things to like 15-25% of their msrp

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just to clear inventory

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:15 PM

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I'll have to keep an eye out

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:15 PM

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best buy does that a lot for the shuccable wd easystores

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i got 16tb (2x 8tb) for $120 a few months ago

scenic radish Jan 11, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Noice

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:15 PM

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i like to find deals man... i'm a cheap bastard and i'm ok with that

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unless it's food

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you know, the stuff that eventually goes down the toilet 🤣

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in fact, i need to take these ribeyes out to get to room temp

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a lil surf n turf tonight

hushed basalt Jan 11, 2020, 11:28 PM

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In soviet Australia, deals get you

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We're lucky when stores put something 20% off. Especially tech

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:30 PM

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yeah, that's what you get for being convicts

hushed basalt Jan 11, 2020, 11:33 PM

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A lot of places will rather dispose of their surplus or liquidate it in another market rather than reduce the price

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Can't let us get too comfortable with the idea of 50% off :D

valid halo Jan 11, 2020, 11:36 PM

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as low as 150

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oh shoot

hushed basalt Jan 11, 2020, 11:36 PM

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I paid $2700 for my laptop, i7 256gb 16gb with no gpu

valid halo Jan 11, 2020, 11:36 PM

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I forgot to scroll down to see where the convversation went

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retreats into the shadows

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:36 PM

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i mean most stuff in Australia is more expensive anyway, right?

hushed basalt Jan 11, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Yeah

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Higher base price, less competition, less discounts,

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Adds up to a much higher total cost

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Plus our housing prices are completely out of wack

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And high real estate prices make everything more expensive

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:40 PM

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yeah... crazy

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and i'm certain the fires aren't helping anything

hushed basalt Jan 11, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Median income is about $45-50k while houses can go from $450k - $1500k

tidal bronze Jan 11, 2020, 11:50 PM

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@last dirge you around ?

last dirge Jan 11, 2020, 11:50 PM

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on and off

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what's up?

tidal bronze Jan 11, 2020, 11:51 PM

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I don't know if I asked you earlier, did you change watering times when you went mp rotator?

last dirge Jan 11, 2020, 11:51 PM

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I got that conformal coating you suggested

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was getting all geared up to take stuff apart and get it on there

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then it started raining 🙂

tidal bronze Jan 11, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Yikes

last dirge Jan 11, 2020, 11:51 PM

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nah, I didn't

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I should but because my soil isn't where it needs to be I get a LOT of runoff

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so I only run for 2-3 minutes at a time staggered

tidal bronze Jan 11, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Got it

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Going to change about 72 heads so doing all the research I can before

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😀

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What type of soil ?

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:56 PM

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gonna till it all?

tidal bronze Jan 11, 2020, 11:56 PM

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No just heads

steel urchin Jan 11, 2020, 11:56 PM

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err sorry, meant Brian

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but damn, 72 heads is a bunch

tidal bronze Jan 11, 2020, 11:58 PM

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These are the times I blow a gasket with my gardeners, been checking each body and these guys have replaced with Toro, hunter and rain bird. Livid.

last dirge Jan 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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@tidal bronze red clay

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Oh

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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have that same problem here

last dirge Jan 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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bodies don't really matter

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for pop-ups

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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It does

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Toro is Male thread

last dirge Jan 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Hunter and Rain Bird have interchangeable nozzles

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not sure about Toro

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Actually the rest takes female heads.

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These guys use anything from the back of the truck when they damage something. Oh well.

last dirge Jan 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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you should be able to swap guts between brands

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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i haven't used my system since moving in because there's a leak in the valve box

last dirge Jan 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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unscrew the top, pull the old guts out

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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You mean the body ? Some are not easy to take out

last dirge Jan 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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no, not the body

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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2 parter, does anyone use google home with system that shall not be named and what are the pros and cons over amazon echos?

Is anyone using a smart watch with system that shall not be named? Which one and what is your experience?

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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But MP offered both M/F

last dirge Jan 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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you can unscrew the top and the spring and such come out

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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@rain swift #voice-assistants-archived for the first question

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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ah, I didn't think about that area

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duh

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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@last dirge body inner height is different in toto 🤣

last dirge Jan 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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awesome

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last season I replaced about 10 or so bodies with Rain Bird Seal-a-matics

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I was getting downhill siphon after turn off

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 12:07 AM

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https://www.dripdepot.com/product/hunter-strip-mp-rotator

last dirge Jan 12, 2020, 12:08 AM

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I'm aware 🙂

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I can't get the radius in far enough to where it won't just be pissing all over the sidewalk

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 12:08 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20200111-160829_Chrome.jpg

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That's for Toro body

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What model do you run ?

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 12:10 AM

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what about smart watches?

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Been using galaxy watch for some years. Great.

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 12:11 AM

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what kind stuff do you do with HA on it?

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can you make it vibrate with an automation

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gah, maybe we should move to the HA section, I dunno lol

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Interactive html5 to delay garage closing etc straight from the watch.

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 12:12 AM

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noice

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are HTML5 notifications interactive in general?

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could be something fun to play with.

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looks like you can

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 12:16 AM

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i want a watch so bad, but i hate things on my wrist

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html5 notifications in general kinda stink imo.... i haven't ever had much fun/luck with them

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Same boat

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I never wear a watch, I don't wear jewelry in general.

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bought one a while back to test out wearing one again but made the mistake of getting a big heavy one lol

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Once you get used to wrist notifications / interactions hard to go back. I hated wearing watches as well but now a must.

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 12:24 AM

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last time I looked into it I was on domoticz and there was nothing lol that's why I was wondering what kind of integration we have now.

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 12:31 AM

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do we have any saltwater reef keepers in here? I'm upgrading to a much larger tank and looking for automation ideas. Monitors for ph/salinity/etc, other things to automate, etc

last dirge Jan 12, 2020, 12:32 AM

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@dull chasm has fish, I don't know salt/fresh

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@modest sentinel I do know he's got lights and stuff automated; his tank has its own hass instance

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 12:35 AM

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oh, nice... curious what my options are for sensors and such

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I know you can buy wifi lights so there might be integrations for those

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looks like these work with HA https://www.seneye.com/devices

devices - seneye

Protect your fish with a seneye monitor. Understanding what is happening inside your aquarium is vital to ensuring that the aquatic life remains healthy. This revolutionary water monitoring system allows you to continuously track the changes in the water parameters alerting y...

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there's so much cool stuff out there 😲

amber bramble Jan 12, 2020, 12:52 AM

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got my roborock today

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currently trying to firewall it off from the rest of my LAN so it can't spy on me 🤣

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 1:02 AM

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lmao

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why not firewall it off from the internet?

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then if it spies, it can't actually send it any place.

amber bramble Jan 12, 2020, 1:02 AM

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needs cloud access :/

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i've got a separate vlan that doesn't get internet access

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blah. i can't figure out why this firewall rule won't work

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 1:23 AM

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I run OPENBSD

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 1:36 AM

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@tidal bronze have you thought about moisture sensors

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 1:36 AM

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That's the plan

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Therefore using in zones where needed rather than worrying about water times

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Apparently the standard moisture sensors are crap though

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I do run rainmachine with local weather station data but seems like soil sensing is much better. Orderd this waiting on delivery. https://spruceirrigation.com/sensors/

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Interesting

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 1:47 AM

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I use https://cimis.water.ca.gov/ and dark sky mixed via rainmachine but things could be better 😀

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 1:47 AM

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so many green thumbs around here

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let me come visit, i'll make all that green turn to brown lol

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 1:49 AM

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As long as you have a few of these you are more than welcome. https://naturvet.com/product/grasssaver-tabs/

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 1:49 AM

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haha

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i cannot believve that is even a thing

pliant forge Jan 12, 2020, 1:52 AM

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@amber bramble did you try valetudo yet?

amber bramble Jan 12, 2020, 1:52 AM

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valetudo?

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 2:00 AM

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What does rain machine do?

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 2:06 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/fab573b7628615c4f849061340eaa240/tenor.gif

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Aawww yeah

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Make it drizzle, $1 bills y'all

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 2:11 AM

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woo, just ordered a few more z-wave switches to add to the stack that's getting installed on tuesday

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Eventually I want to get into making my own temp/humidity and maybe PIR sensors

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 2:16 AM

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@tidal bronze did you see the WeatherFlow Tempest? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/weatherflow/tempest-a-revolutionary-personal-weather-system/description

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i ordered one, ships march

last dirge Jan 12, 2020, 2:21 AM

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@tidal bronze how much are those sensors? Replacing them when they git hit by the mower could get pricey 🙂

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 2:23 AM

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54 a sensor. @modest sentinel looks interesting but I have a state irrigation weather station right next to me for free 😀

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 2:24 AM

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ahh that's handy

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I just wanted this for fun, I'm not really sure why I got it if I'm being honest. I guess I just want to look at data

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Story of our lives. "Just to look at data" 😄 Although with time I am trying to remove 90% "data", cool factor with displaying everything under the sun in the UI gets old pretty quick.

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 2:30 AM

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How much is it?

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Ah

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Might get one

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 2:36 AM

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tempest looks pretty cool

amber bramble Jan 12, 2020, 2:36 AM

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ok this roborock vacuum owns

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 2:36 AM

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does it work offline?

amber bramble Jan 12, 2020, 2:39 AM

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haven't tried yet

tidal bronze Jan 12, 2020, 2:39 AM

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@last dirge thanks for the idea. Another dash button for good use

📎 20200111_183846.jpg

last dirge Jan 12, 2020, 2:39 AM

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which did you get?

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@tidal bronze hell yeah

amber bramble Jan 12, 2020, 2:39 AM

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the S5 that was on sale on amazon a couple days ago

pliant forge Jan 12, 2020, 2:59 AM

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@amber bramble https://github.com/Hypfer/Valetudo

GitHub

Hypfer/Valetudo

Self-contained control webinterface for xiaomi vacuum robots - Hypfer/Valetudo

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 3:01 AM

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Program dogs?

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:05 AM

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@brisk glen @steel urchin one thing i forgot to mention earlier that i like about my chromebook is that i can run chrome OS, linux, and android apps

brisk glen Jan 12, 2020, 3:05 AM

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@scenic radish pinebookpro

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:06 AM

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that's cool

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i don't have a need for chromeOS, but android apps are always nice to be able to run

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:06 AM

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the pinebook looks cool, but i need a numeric keypad

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:06 AM

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@amber bramble nice! Glad my deal finding helps others 🙂

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:07 AM

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and i can't deal with anything under a 15.6" display

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:07 AM

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spoiled

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i'm cool with 13" and 1080p

brisk glen Jan 12, 2020, 3:07 AM

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...

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needs to connect to external monitor for 27"

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:08 AM

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lol

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:08 AM

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my current chromebook is 11" and <1080p

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:08 AM

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i used to do 13" cuz of weight, but now i need 15.6+", and prefer 17"

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:08 AM

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and...trash

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:08 AM

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but yeah my desktop is 3x 24"

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:08 AM

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my desktop is 2x 23 1x 40

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for "reasons"

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:08 AM

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one of my favorite laptops was the lenovo yoga

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so thin, so light, convertable

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:08 AM

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ah yeah that one was cool

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:09 AM

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display port on linux sucks though so i had to dual boot at times

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just had steak and crab, corn on the cob and potatoes... feelin good

brisk glen Jan 12, 2020, 3:09 AM

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usb C TB3 on HP laptops suck balls

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buggy ass fw

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:09 AM

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ever get your thing fixed codex?

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:10 AM

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what "thing" exactly? i have a lot of bs going on lol

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:10 AM

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your FORBIDDEN_TOPIC

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:11 AM

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ah no... I'm actually am currently cleaning up configs, committing and about to start over

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:11 AM

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reeeeeee

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:11 AM

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oh no the deadly redo

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get a pi, hassio and you'd be back up from a fresh in like 15 minutes if that lol

brisk glen Jan 12, 2020, 3:12 AM

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go docker and be up in 4

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:>

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:12 AM

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i don't think it'll take me any time really to get back up and running... i just have to readd all the zwave stuff

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and then rename things cuz i hate the default names

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oh, and i have to add some xml to the zwave config until the OZW1.6 comes out, but i have it in a notes file so it's just copy pasta

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and i am running docker

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i have a vodka drink atm, so things should start getting fun

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:14 AM

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gotta get to the peak of the balmer curve

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:15 AM

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yeah but high BAC usually isn't my goto

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i'd rather smoke than drink

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i tend to have my faculties about me, and don't flip out over an HA meltdown 🤣

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i about lost my damn mind last night lol

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:16 AM

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lol

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:24 AM

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i'm so damn full

narrow marten Jan 12, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Ok, appdaemon is officially cool... I just finished the readme, and starting the tutorials... just had to comment on it...

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:25 AM

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no

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jk obvi

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once i learn python more i'm gonna have to look into that

narrow marten Jan 12, 2020, 3:26 AM

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I’m teaching my self now...

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:26 AM

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yeah i was kinda looking at the api, not really my style for something that's intended to grow

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kinda breaks SOLID principles

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i think the states and is_state_attr jinja stuff is better

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but, i can imagine loops and what not being a LOT better in appdaemon

narrow marten Jan 12, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Dumb question... a callback is a timed instruction?

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:29 AM

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mmm... it will depend on the scope of the implementation really

narrow marten Jan 12, 2020, 3:29 AM

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I’m following what it does from context, just looking for good definition

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:29 AM

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in the case of automation, something will trigger it.. be it time, sunset, detection of a device, button push, etc...

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the example shows something like:

        self.listen_state(self.motion, "binary_sensor.drive", new="on")

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so it's listening to the binary sensor for an attribute change

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and calls self.motion (the callback)

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i'm not sure this is a welcomed conversation here 😛 but i don't know where it would go

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the #551844176556457984 channel is archived

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oh, has it's own discord... (personally i don't care, i like nerd talking)

narrow marten Jan 12, 2020, 3:32 AM

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Thank you for the info, I’m still not grasping it.. more reading to do...

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And I like nerd talking too!

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:32 AM

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mmm... it's a pretty common pattern in languages to have a callback, do you have experience in any languages?

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:33 AM

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@narrow marten ❤️ appdaemon

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:33 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callback_(computer_programming)

Callback (computer programming)

In computer programming, a callback, also known as a "call-after" function, is any executable code that is passed as an argument to other code that is expected to call back (execute) the argument at a given time. This execution may be immediate as in a synchronous callback, o...

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that's a decent abstract definition

narrow marten Jan 12, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Lol, 25 years ago, FORTRAN and c++

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:33 AM

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i have a bunch of things there

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:33 AM

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haha ok, no problem, a bit dated and probably long forgotten

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in c++ you'd likely pass a pointer as a reference

narrow marten Jan 12, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Yes, if you don’t use it, you lose it

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:34 AM

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to a function

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:34 AM

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NERD TALK ALERT!

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:34 AM

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in modern languages functions are first class citizens

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so they are literal objects that can be passed as parameters

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:35 AM

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its fun to abuse that

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:36 AM

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well in recent times we've gone to promisary execution

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and with async/await making it's way through various tech we're getting even more fun stuff

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:36 AM

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that's part of the JS hacks to make it pretend to be object oriented

brisk glen Jan 12, 2020, 3:36 AM

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I want to... automate in swift

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😒

narrow marten Jan 12, 2020, 3:36 AM

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The terminology has changed so much...

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:36 AM

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there's no pretend, js is object oriented

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just not as complete as typescript is

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typescript is a superset of js

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:37 AM

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still a hack

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:37 AM

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mmm no

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:37 AM

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typsescript looks cool

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:37 AM

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c#, java, js, and more have async/await

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:37 AM

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anything to prevent js grey hairs is awesome

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 3:37 AM

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I don't mind js

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:37 AM

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i love me some js

narrow marten Jan 12, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Js?

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:38 AM

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javascript

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:38 AM

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js 🤢

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 3:38 AM

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People trend to use it fundamentally different to python from what I see

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:38 AM

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no u

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:38 AM

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can anyone suggest a good outdoor safe (lots of rain) open/close sensor?

narrow marten Jan 12, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Lol, ok,... derp

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:38 AM

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js is largely front end

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:38 AM

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mmmm python devs love to break best practices is probably why you see that 😉

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python is the new perl

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 3:38 AM

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looks like dash buttons are going away, booo.

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:38 AM

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"hey look, i made an entire facebook in 1 line"

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:39 AM

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some people try to make it full stack but that's kinda dumb

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eh, while the interpreter will accept it, that's considered bad form

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:39 AM

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@wet pilot i like you, but i have to tell you that your perspective is not correct

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i do trillions of dollars of business a month using javascript

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full stack

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:39 AM

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cause noone else wants too lol

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:39 AM

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no, because they're clammoring for it hardcore

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:40 AM

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js is everything and everywhere now, like it or hate it

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 3:40 AM

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I'd reach for javascript if I was doing full stack

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:40 AM

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eh, i'm just salty because the people who brought js into our company are really bad

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 3:40 AM

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It's incredibly popular, which has a lot of values

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:40 AM

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mellanox won't let us use anything but c and js

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:40 AM

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and then after they forced the decisions they left

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so a company that's a lamp stack is being forced to deal with JS

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:40 AM

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i mean, that can be true with any tech stack

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Popularity is important

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:41 AM

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like they implemented our GraphQL api in JS when the backend is already python. it should have been done there

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 3:41 AM

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More devs to choose from, more resources, more active packages and tooling

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:41 AM

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i am not a proponent of "let's do this piece in <x> technology because we want to make a change"

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either rebuild from scratch, or keep goign on the train you already are on

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 3:42 AM

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I do wish someone would make a batteries included serverless framework though

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:42 AM

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even worse, they didn't just rewrite it, they pointed the GraphQL at the existing php api (which is also trash)

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:42 AM

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it sounds like a great idea at first, and clever techniques are attempted to make ecosystems cohesive, but it compounds complexity and opinionated implementations super quick

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yeah that sounds like 💩

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Some people said I should learn Django but I don't think it's the best career move

narrow marten Jan 12, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Full stack? Sorry guys just trying to follow the convo

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:43 AM

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front end + back end

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:43 AM

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they do @hushed basalt .. lambdas

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:43 AM

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hey now leave php out of it..

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:43 AM

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django is all but dead imo

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:43 AM

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still hanging on, but flask is stealing the thunder

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 3:43 AM

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But lamdbas is just piecing together functions with events driven stuff etc

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:43 AM

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php has been somehow coasting on embers in the fire

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:43 AM

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php will nevver die!

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:44 AM

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that's what a serverless framework looks like telco 😛

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 3:44 AM

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There's no "here's a framework you can go from zero to 💯"

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:44 AM

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make one!

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i'm personally against opinionated frameworks

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i'm code over config usually (which is ironic in my stance with HA thus far)

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Yeah I understand, but all sls frameworks are geared to being microservice, rather than inherently trying to take advantage of the cost and scalability advantages first

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But you need to start somewhere

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Even if you hack it apart later

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 3:45 AM

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trillions of dollars? why are you even here? i'd be on my yaht.

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 3:45 AM

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You can't learn development on a microservice architecture

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:45 AM

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i'm on a lengthy sabbatical

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:45 AM

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lol just becase the software clears that doesn't mean he gets anywhere near that

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:45 AM

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i'm here cuz the nerds here are pretty rad

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and i don't make trillions lol

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my company does

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:46 AM

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looks like we got us a trillionaire

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:46 AM

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we're waiting for mellanox to buy us since we pretty much build all their hardware and software

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 3:46 AM

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you should start your own company. 😄

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:46 AM

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i'm hoping to retire after this 🙂

wet pilot Jan 12, 2020, 3:46 AM

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lol that's how you get negative income

amber bramble Jan 12, 2020, 3:46 AM

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tomorrow's task: root roborock, install valetudo, integrate with HA

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:46 AM

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live 6mo in different countries

narrow marten Jan 12, 2020, 3:46 AM

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It’s nice, I did 4 years ago

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:46 AM

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@amber bramble dude, lemme know how it goes, i want to do that

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:47 AM

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i need a new robo vac, one that can empty itself and keep going. but there's only like one model out there and it's way overpriced

amber bramble Jan 12, 2020, 3:47 AM

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my mind is still blown at how well it got around my house

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especially since our kids had toys all over the place

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:48 AM

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if you want a "reasonably" priced one, the shark iq self evac is the way to go

narrow marten Jan 12, 2020, 3:48 AM

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I agree, I’m upgrading to the shark this year..

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:49 AM

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but it's not as "smart" as other smart vacs.. nav isn't fantastic, and it doesn' thave a bin sensor to know when it's full.. it just goes back after distance traveled

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 3:49 AM

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i've got an s6 in my amazon automation wish list

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:49 AM

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if you want best nav for decent price, roborock is the goto

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:49 AM

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i have the botvac d80 but it's been sitting in the box unused for months

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:49 AM

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dude, use it! my robovac was the best purchase i've made in my life i'm pretty sure

narrow marten Jan 12, 2020, 3:49 AM

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With 4 dogs, mine runs everyday

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 3:49 AM

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6 fiddy is a lot of money for a vaccum though

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:50 AM

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i posted a deal on the s5 the other day

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:50 AM

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i havent unboxed it since moving because I feel like my new space is too big for it

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and it'll just get part of it

amber bramble Jan 12, 2020, 3:50 AM

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the roborock swept and mapped out the entirety of my house that i could access (we closed the doors to a few rooms since the kids were in bed) on the first run

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:50 AM

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i have some IFTTT services scanning for deals on all kinds of stuff, robovacs being one... if i see somethin i post it here

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:50 AM

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plus it's sooo slow

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takes forever to do a job a human could do in 5 mins

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:50 AM

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@steel urchin lmao wut

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:50 AM

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wut wut

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https://giphy.com/gifs/grandma-nana-wat-3WmWdBzqveXaE

Giphy

amber bramble Jan 12, 2020, 3:51 AM

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and when it declared that it was done cleaning it made the trip from our master bathroom (farthest place from its dock it could go) and made the trip back to its dock without bumping into a single thing

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:51 AM

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yep, best nav in the industry imo

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:51 AM

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you dedicated IFFTT to scanning for robovacs?

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:51 AM

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deebot is a LIL better, but not much

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:51 AM

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i have hardwood floors, i should get one of those mopping ones

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:51 AM

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no no, the public free service

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https://ifttt.com/

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:52 AM

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I know, but why?

amber bramble Jan 12, 2020, 3:52 AM

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it also did surprisingly good at getting between the chair legs under the dining room table

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:52 AM

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lol

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:52 AM

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@forest edge to scanning for deals he said

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:52 AM

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because it took me like 10 seconds to do, and it works? it posts to my discord

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:52 AM

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sorry, just seems excessive

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:52 AM

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no different than setting up an email alert on slickdeals, just a bit more work

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:52 AM

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already looking to ditch dusty?

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:53 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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that's how we met 🤣

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well it's for my entire community, not just me

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:53 AM

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I couldn't keep up with all that lol

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:54 AM

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i don't keep up with anything really... i supply an rss feed, and a search term, post a webhook url, and i'm done

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if someone is looking for something, they just go into the channel and look for whatever they want

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i should rename the webhook though, it hasn't been a holiday sale bot in over a year 🤣

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:54 AM

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speaking of deals, this is a good deal. I have a few of these for various things https://slickdeals.net/f/13788218-sylvania-smart-zigbee-led-lightstrip-starter-kit-23-free-shipping?src=frontpage

Slickdeals

Sylvania Smart+ ZigBee LED Lightstrip Starter Kit $23 + Free Shipping

FUTURE LIGHTING via Walmart has Sylvania Smart+ ZigBee LED Lightstrip Starter Kit (73661) for $23. Shipping is free. Thanks hnahorton & nightf0x

Franko Lighting via Amazon has Sylvania Smar ...

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why does discord sometimes not let me kill the preview 😦

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:55 AM

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wrap it in < >

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the link i mean

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:55 AM

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ah, good to know

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:55 AM

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also, don't do this to me.

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:55 AM

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nope didn't work

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:55 AM

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lol

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:55 AM

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instructions unclear

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:55 AM

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rm -rf /SonomaGTS

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:55 AM

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do what to you?

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:56 AM

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awwww

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:56 AM

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post links to smart home stuff lol

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:56 AM

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😦

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:56 AM

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that i don't need

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:56 AM

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haha

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:56 AM

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but i do

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:56 AM

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@scenic radish LED all the things!

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:56 AM

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/s/need/want

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:56 AM

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i bought a 17' rgbw led strip and rewired it to fit that sylvania controller

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:56 AM

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i already have RGB lights in the living room and bedrooms

narrow marten Jan 12, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Lol, so what’s the best vac to run with HA

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:56 AM

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and my entire underside of my desk is rgb now

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and i built a massive ambient light out of a SDSS telescope plate

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:57 AM

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only vac to use with HA is one that reports it's cords lol

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:57 AM

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i might be too old to understand the rgb strips everywhere

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 3:57 AM

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then you can real time map that sucker and look at a card with a bunch of lines ol

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:57 AM

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it's RGBCCT??? sold

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:57 AM

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i feel like light is art, and i need it to be designed in a way that isn't intrusive

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:57 AM

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@steel urchin i appreciate soft ambient lighting, and I like colors

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:57 AM

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trimming my whole house in rgb strips feels weird

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:58 AM

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@scenic radish it's in a weird order but yeah

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i had to cross over some of the connections

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:58 AM

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what's cct?

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 3:58 AM

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softwhite daylight

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:58 AM

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addressable?

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:58 AM

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correlated color temp

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:58 AM

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ahh

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 3:59 AM

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"tunable white"

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 3:59 AM

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the 2700k type numbers

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speaking of, we went from 3000k lights to 2700k, and that 300k makes a big difference

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:00 AM

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CCT is normal light colors lol

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:00 AM

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i'm used to the 2700k, but i miss the old bulbs.. they just didn't dim for shit

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:01 AM

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I love my smart bulbs, I stole the settings from the hue "concentrate" scene and that is what they are normally set at, I really love being able to do warm white in the mornings and before bed.

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:01 AM

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yep, 3000K is my preferred soft white

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:01 AM

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I don't find I use color all that much, but I did just set up all the lights to blink green when the wife wants to get my attention when shes texting me or pulls up outside and I need to carry groceries in or something.

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:02 AM

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yeah i wanna do an alert light

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:02 AM

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lol star trek red alert

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need something to play the sound too

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:03 AM

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hmm.. that might be a valid use for the rgb strip

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i was considering using one of the recessed lights, but i'd have to rewire all the cans so it would be detached from the other 6

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:04 AM

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don't you wish they would make a switch that would control a bulbs color? lol

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:04 AM

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heh sorta

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addressable bulbs

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:05 AM

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I made them blink green because I wanna save red for alert/emergency type stuff.

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the hue remote lets you map scenes to it.

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not as cool as having a dial though

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:07 AM

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@modest sentinel i can't find a lumen rating for each 2-foot section. total wattage for the kit is 36W which, at 90 lm/W would translate to about 3200 lumens. any idea if this is accurate?

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seems high for a 6-foot strip at this price range but not out of the realm of possibility

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:08 AM

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i need to make some kind of led lighting for the strams

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:08 AM

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strams?

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:08 AM

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streams

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cuz no way i'm buying an elgato light

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and i don't want like photography lighting that takes up like 4x4' footprint

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:08 AM

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ah

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:09 AM

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I find 4000k best for fixed temp

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:10 AM

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something like this but less shitty

📎 unknown.png

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Not too "warm" for daytime and not too "cool" for night

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:10 AM

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or maybe exactly that 🤣

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i need to find access to a 3d printer

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:11 AM

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i find 4000K too cool at night personally

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and 4000K dumb bulbs are hard to come by. i've only seen them online

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hope it was ok to ping you with that question btw rappo

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:12 AM

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hmmm what about this bad boy https://amzn.to/2slQ1xm

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:12 AM

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@scenic radish i dont recall the exact specs, sorry... but it's on the high end of things (quality wise) dont let the discount fool you

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and totally fine, I was just distracted with other things

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:12 AM

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good to know, thanks! i guess i could always return it if i'm not happy with it lol

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ugh... i want it... but i don't even have a use in mind for it

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:12 AM

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yeah, just buy via amazon and you're set haha

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:13 AM

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i'm getting super lazy in my older age

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:13 AM

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dude... I bought one for my desk, then i needed one for my plate light project, and that sale happened so i bought three

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i still have two in a box haha

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:13 AM

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actually better yet, i could return them directly to the walmart by me if i needed to

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oh gosh lol

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:14 AM

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wallyworld

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:14 AM

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i bought two ecosmart RGB bulb + remote kits when they were $5 at the home depot, still haven't connected the remotes lol

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:14 AM

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hmm 18watt seems kinda high for an led panel

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:14 AM

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i thought you bought everything from ikea? lol

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:14 AM

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this is my light, btw

📎 fhVZduz.png

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:14 AM

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ooh i like that

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:14 AM

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ooh nice

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:15 AM

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that actually gives me a cool idea

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:15 AM

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was that used for BB target practice?

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:15 AM

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i like the holes in whatever that shield looking thing is

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:15 AM

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looks like 9mm. target practice?

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😉

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:15 AM

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9mm? no lol

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:15 AM

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@forest edge it's a plate from SDSS - sloan digital sky survey. Each hole had a fiber optic plug in it and corresponds to a galaxy or quasar in a tiny patch of sky

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all plugged into a massive observatory

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:16 AM

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ah thats cool

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:16 AM

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ooo neato

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and yeah looks more like .22 lol

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:17 AM

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more info https://blog.sdss.org/2014/09/19/sdss-plates/

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:17 AM

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@scenic radish quality matters

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:17 AM

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@scenic radish LEARN YOUR HOLES! https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cb/86/48/cb864890535893d501528e2eeb739b47.png

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:17 AM

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All bulbs are not created equal. By a long shot

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:18 AM

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indeed

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i've got a hole for you @forest edge

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:18 AM

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hehe

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:18 AM

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3000K is way too warm for the day

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Natural light mixes with your bulb light and it's just 🤢

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:19 AM

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oh for sure, i agree

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:19 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/47c6f071885db9cda0bbb7d401dbe9f6/tenor.gif

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:19 AM

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lmao jontron

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that's why i have different color temp settings based on time of day with philips hue

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:19 AM

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flux or whatever that is

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Well I did say 4000 is best for "fixed" temp ;)

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:20 AM

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isnt that what flux does, change the color temp based on time of day

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:20 AM

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near the end of the night yeah

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:20 AM

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I thought it did it all day

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:20 AM

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@hushed basalt ah tru

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:20 AM

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there's also the flux pc app

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:20 AM

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or could do it all day rather

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:20 AM

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i think that's what they mean

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:20 AM

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which i use because microsoft's built-in color adjuster sucks

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:20 AM

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but why would you have lights on during the day? 🤔

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Because.. what?

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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cause indoors is darker than out?

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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i don't like it changing on me, i couldn't get into flux.. felt like i was squinting by the end of the night

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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jk i know all about shady areas of the house with only having two exterior walls

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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@steel urchin i assumed they were talking about https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/flux/

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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an di do most my work between 10pm and 8am

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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It's 12.30 right now

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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no it's 10:20

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Full solar noon and summer 40 degree day

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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no it's 8:21

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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how are you 10min off a timezone? 🤣

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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And it's dark

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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i was joking telco gosh

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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I was rounding ;)

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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who rounds 10 minutes away

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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event: {type: 'state', event_data: 'sun.sun'}

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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I don't think the daylight temp or luminance will change much in 9 minutes

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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alright, i think i'm gonna buy that light strip to use as bias lighting behind my living room TV

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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i round to the nearest 5

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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someone who dosen't want to be late for work that's who rounds off 10 mins lol

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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lol

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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hahaha

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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I'm not trying to catch the bus

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Y U YELL

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/loud-noises-anchorman-yelling-yell-gif-5294834

Tenor

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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haha

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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@scenic radish have you considered ambi-tv clone for your tv?

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Sky god no move quick quick

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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i have the dreamscreen 4k and it's amazing

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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you guys are too entertaining... i haven't even spun up a new container for HA this entire time

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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slacker

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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no this is discord

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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wifey keeps trying to tell alexa to do things and it's not working lol

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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discorder

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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the rest of us could havve done it without even looking

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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hmmph

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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They don't like it when you take it awat

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:23 AM

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@modest sentinel oh that's dope

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:24 AM

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alexa restart docker

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:24 AM

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setting up HA on 6 devvices with just my feet under the desk atm

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esypsy

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:24 AM

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@modest sentinel are you root?

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:24 AM

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@scenic radish yeah! i l got the original 1080p from kickstarter and when i got a 4k tv i had to get the new one

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ALEXA SU

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Gah why you no work on lan traefik

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On android

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I need to do a deep dive

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But that takes time and energy

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:25 AM

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the 4k one has an hdmi switch built in so if you only have 3 hdmi devices you care about you dont need a second switch

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:25 AM

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so @amber bramble you verified the roborock is dead firewalled off?

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cuz ATX was trying to convince me otherwise

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and i'm too lazy to open my dropdown box to cut the internet, and even lazier to figure out a way to firewall something in tomato

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:27 AM

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companies that try and block people from using thier products in more additional ways then they intend 🤢

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:27 AM

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What's wrong with having a chinese robot camera phone home

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https://media.tenor.com/images/5e397dbe5829c7e344119ddb311a7351/tenor.gif

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:32 AM

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https://youtu.be/zvq9r6R6QAY

YouTube

Caramella Girls

Caramella Girls - Caramelldansen Swedish Original (Official)

Original Swedish version of the song Caramelldansen.
Check out Boogie Bam Dance as well here: https://goo.gl/xgeD77
Copyright ℗ & © 2008 Remixed Records - Sweden.
Song Published by EMI Music Publishing.
All Rights Reserved.

”Caramelldansen” Available at:
‪▶ Apple ...

▶ Play video

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:33 AM

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chinese robot camera phone home

this is part of a sentence i would not have understood 15 years ago

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I refuse to buy cloud-only crap

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I'm not having my house bricked when rando .com goes out of business

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:34 AM

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can't use the stove because the internet is down

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that would be the worst

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:34 AM

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lmao @proper swift

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that was good

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:35 AM

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or the story of that guy who left a bad review and had his garage door remotely bricked

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Tech companies can be like children sometimes

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Well often

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:35 AM

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these unicorn .com's go out of business all the time, they are stable until the Series A runs out, and then boom

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:35 AM

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i need good lights for my driveway, the shitty solar lights are all dim or dead, surprise

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Not very techithal

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:36 AM

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hey at least they got to series A!

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most dont make it that far

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:36 AM

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just like best buy shutting down their insignia platform

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:36 AM

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One time, I bought these little metal puck Solar lights from harbor freight. I got 6. that was 12 years ago. 1 Is still working. Its insane. The other 5 lasted 10 years.

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:37 AM

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damn

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Must have been a good batch of batts

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:37 AM

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they've just been sitting outside the whole time.. I haven't touched them. In Phoenix AZ.

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Low quality control can sometimes work in your favour

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Sometime, but not often, you get more than you pay for

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:38 AM

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i'm looking for wired light because the driveway is pretty shady anyway

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and there are outlets there

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Wired is definitely best long term

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:38 AM

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yeah.. I mostly go wired. but yeah.. crazy luck with those

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Do once and let your great grand kids worry about fixing it

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:38 AM

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i saw some at harbor freight the other day for dirt cheap, almost got them... but i once got a pack at big lots and they were just so terrible it's kinda shied me away from non-wired lights

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:39 AM

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something with zigbee/zwave built in would be nice

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:39 AM

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zigbee ftw

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although z-wave would be better for outdoors due to range

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:39 AM

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but harbor freight is great about returns, so maybe i'll try it... plus the manager seems to have a crush on me or something so i usually batt my eyes and she gives me 20-30% off

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Maybe she's paying you off to go away

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:39 AM

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looooool

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hey i'll still take it

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:40 AM

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this is a mixed house lmao... zigbee bulbs, zwave wall switches, zigbee and zwave plugs

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:40 AM

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that's funny

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Like how idiots get promoted to where they can't do as much damage

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:40 AM

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I'm mostly running insteon

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:40 AM

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most of my stuff is zigbee, but i do have the zcombo z-wave smoke alarm

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:40 AM

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i'm pure zwave atm... trying to keep it that way, but not sure

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Zwave is almost non existent in Australia afaik

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:41 AM

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harbor freight is suppose to do that or she gets fired lol

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:41 AM

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With HA it's no problem at all to mix though

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:41 AM

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i've found zigbee to be muuuch easier to deal with initially, but zwave more reliable long term and with better range

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 4:41 AM

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By zigbee has been pretty solid since I put a repeater next to the gateway

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:42 AM

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z-wave is supposed to be better in some ways, but i've found pairing zigbee stuff to be easier than z-wave

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:42 AM

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wifi 👍

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:42 AM

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https://smile.amazon.com/Lumabase-61010-Electric-Pathway-Lights/dp/B005HOLVWA/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=outdoor+lights+pathway+wired&qid=1578804019&s=hi&sr=1-9

look at this abomination. wires at the top so they are easily visible. And there's a red/green option??

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:42 AM

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for some things, yeah

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:43 AM

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also it doesnt list the length

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screams into the void

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:43 AM

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it's under 20 bucks, what do you want?

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:44 AM

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@forest edge i literally have seen her every time just ignore people, ring them up, and get them out.. when i show up she says hi, and tries to talk to me while i'm 4-5 people behind in line while she's ringing people out... i've literally been asked if she's my girlfriend lol

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:44 AM

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everything

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:44 AM

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i just want to find a set of lights that has one plug and can be daisy chained

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cuz i need 80-100ft ish

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:44 AM

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or rather, they say "damn it must be nice dating the manager, get those discounts all the time!"

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and then i make a joke saying "no she dates my wife"

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:45 AM

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reminds me of a song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgkBWZXVLyk

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enjoy

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:46 AM

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so does anyone have more than 1 drill? I've been thinking of selling this craftsman 19.2v that i got as part of a kit many moons ago, but have brand new batteries for... Sold the right angle drill for a whopping $85, and got a nice ryobi drill+impact for $65 on fleabay... but i don't know if i want mixed drills/batteries

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:46 AM

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is she atleast attractive codex?

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:46 AM

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yeah

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:46 AM

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@steel urchin I have two drills because I upgraded but never got rid of the old one

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:46 AM

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well good, wouldn't ya batting your eyes for something that isn't lol

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:47 AM

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lol i told ya i'm a cheap ass 😛

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:47 AM

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thinking about moving the old one into the house because my garage is detached (old barn)

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:47 AM

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i have a drill and an impact driver

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:47 AM

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I have like.. 4?

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:47 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/well-good-for-you-supernatural-jensen-ackles-dean-winchester-gif-5938400

Tenor

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:47 AM

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@scenic radish yeah i bought the dewalt drill/impact set

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:47 AM

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mixed batteries for diffrent brands is 🤢

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:47 AM

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https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-18-Volt-ONE-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Drill-Driver-and-Impact-Driver-Combo-Kit-with-2-1-3-Ah-Batteries-Charger-and-Bag-P1832/207092155

The Home Depot

RYOBI 18-Volt ONE+ Lithium-Ion Cordless Drill/Driver and Impact Dr...

Adjust bolts or screws with ultra powerful Ryobi Lithium-Ion Cordless Drill or Driver and Impact Driver Combo Kit with Batteries, Charger and Bag.

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i got that for $65 shipped

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:47 AM

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ooo neato

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:48 AM

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then stick with whatever takes that battery

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Would it be worth setting up a setting up a sep VLAN for the kiddo’s PC? Gf just told me she spent the past 30 minutes or so fixing his internet, he’s been downloading and installing way too much junk. It wasn’t until that moment that I realized our entire network is vulnerable to just even his computer.

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:48 AM

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but i also have this

📎 craftsman_drill.png

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:48 AM

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@peak cloud my buddy caught his NINE YEAR OLD reading VORE. Definitely do that.

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:48 AM

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damn that battery looks like a boot now that i see it

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 4:48 AM

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I have no idea what VORE is.

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:49 AM

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oh you innocent child

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:49 AM

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wtf is vore

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:49 AM

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pornographic stories where one character eats the other

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Jesus Christ dude.

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:49 AM

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the fuck

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we're all doomed

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 4:49 AM

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...And when you thought you’d heard it all...

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:49 AM

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i feel old now, thanks

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:50 AM

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9 year old reading that? wtf

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:50 AM

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technically it's vorarephilia

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 4:50 AM

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I feel like “VORN” would have been a better descriptor for that. “Vampire...”

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 4:50 AM

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i'm here shaking my fist saying this current generation is the damning of our world

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:50 AM

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but the internet calls it vore

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:50 AM

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time to restrict internet access lol

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Ahh, ok. That makes sense.

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This might be the tipping point of me finally jump onboard with Ubiquiti.

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:52 AM

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i just joined the unifi bandwagon and got a UDM

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:52 AM

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for your next venture into disturbing things, (don't) search {insert favorite video game} rule 34 @peak cloud

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 4:52 AM

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I’ve been contemplating Edge router and some UAPs. Is there a better combo nowadays?

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 4:52 AM

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my mom use to babysit kids that would download all kinds of crap to her pc, I finally just locked it down to where everything required a password to do. they could browse shit but couldn't download nothing, not even enable flash ect lol

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 4:52 AM

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@scenic radish I am aware of rule 34.

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:52 AM

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how aware? 😉

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:53 AM

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@peak cloud dunno if it fits you needs but you can get the UDM as a complete first step and then add on things as you need them later

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oh and i left out one detail, she was actually watching vore youtube clips. I dont think there was nudity buuuut yeah

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:53 AM

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also dale i should be getting my edgerouter x on tuesday, i can let you know what i think of that if you want

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 4:53 AM

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@scenic radish Aware enough for this to be my last sentence in reference to it in here. Lol

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 4:54 AM

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i'm jk lol

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 4:54 AM

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@modest sentinel I haven’t heard of the UDM, but I’ll check it out.

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:55 AM

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https://store.ui.com/products/unifi-dream-machine

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there's a pro but it's only available to people in early access, aka previous customers

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Lol, the first glance and short description already tells me that it’s probably not what I want.

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:55 AM

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fair enough lol

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it was an upgrade from my asus wrt router, lol

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 4:56 AM

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I am really wanting a hard wired router, a PoE switch, and a couple of UAPs.

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:57 AM

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I just ordered a 48port GigE switch. wooot

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 4:57 AM

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That’s what I am still on, an ASUS AC68U.

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:57 AM

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48port wtf are you doing over there

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:57 AM

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it will join my 2 24's and my 16.. muhahahha

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:57 AM

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@peak cloud yeah i had the ac66

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 4:57 AM

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6 cables to each ~~you~~ room, donchakno’?

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:58 AM

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seriously. I need to change all my stuff to have a /23 netmask. not joking.

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 4:58 AM

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but seriously what are you doing that requires that many devices/ports

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 4:59 AM

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I’m on /16 now, but need to change that ASAP.

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 4:59 AM

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well.. in this case.. I have 3 (soon to be 5) servers with 5 nics. plus a few others with 3 in that rack

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some of it's portbond, some of it's ILO/IPMI, some of its corosync network

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you start throwing 5-nic machines in, and a 24 port switch goes real fast

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:00 AM

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I am on /16 with my WLED stuff on 172.16.4.0/16, ESPHome devices on 172.16.2.0/16, and the rest on 172.16.0.0/16

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 5:01 AM

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glances nervously with his /24 network

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 5:01 AM

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mine is ... whatever it does by default 😮

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:01 AM

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lol i mean... don't use wifi devices and you won't have any issues

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 5:01 AM

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yeah.. my /24 is getting.. very crowded.. it's obnoxious

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 5:01 AM

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i've never had more than 30 clients on my network at any given time

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usually it's around 25

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:02 AM

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same

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 5:02 AM

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this is a new low for me... i have so many chrome windows open windows cant do previews, it has to list them. And many many tabs in each one.

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:02 AM

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i just don't like the idea of wifi devices honestly... i'm all about standards

proper swift Jan 12, 2020, 5:02 AM

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so one example, I have 2 16 port serial consoles. so those alone eat 34 IPs

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 5:02 AM

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@modest sentinel you ever open more than 99 tabs on chrome mobile?

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 5:02 AM

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i use firefox on mobile, but yeah I went over 100... I had tabs dating back 2 years haha

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:02 AM

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lol my wife has a ton of tabs on her phone and goes "it's goign slowwww"

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 5:03 AM

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on chrome mobile it changes the tab count to :)

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 5:03 AM

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hah, awesome

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:04 AM

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hahaha

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 5:04 AM

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i have too many hobbies going on at once right now, chrome is a damn mess

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:04 AM

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bookmarks broseph!

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 5:05 AM

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no i'm actively doing them all

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:05 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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i value my ram 🤣

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 5:05 AM

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also i never use bookmarks, thats where websites go to 404 when i check them again in 6 years

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:05 AM

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chrome extension cleans em up real quick

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 5:06 AM

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i use the great suspender, i never have ram problems thanks to that

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highly recommend that extension if you dont use it

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:07 AM

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interesting

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i need a damn extension suspender 🤣

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 5:08 AM

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no kidding! i just looked and metamask extension is taking up 600megs, jesus

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:08 AM

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i have too many dev tools installed

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i'm going to try this suspender one out though, thanks

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:08 AM

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@scenic radish Dang dude, 25-30 is kinda low these days. When I lived alone a couple years ago, I was at 50+ clients, but many of those were cameras.

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 5:09 AM

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sure thing, you can whitelist domains too

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so it's really handy that way

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 5:10 AM

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@peak cloud yeah I don't have cameras or anything

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:10 AM

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i live in areas where i don't need cameras... i haven't delved into that

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Interesting,sometime during the night my roborock has stopped responding, after I blocked it from accessing the interwebs ThonkEyes

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 5:10 AM

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It knows

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:10 AM

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PedoBearBush

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:11 AM

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i can leave my vehicles running with the doors open until the tank runs dry... i'm not worried about crime

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 5:11 AM

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@steel urchin what kind of area doesn't benefit from cameras?

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 5:11 AM

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I only don't have them because I'm in a condo with 11 other units

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Quick question for you network security gurus — I’ve always wondered if a client with a (I forgot the term) of /20 to access devices in the lower tiers, say like /24?

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 5:11 AM

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And four other buildings in the complex

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:11 AM

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netmask

scenic radish Jan 12, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Otherwise I would 100% have exterior cameras

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:12 AM

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@peak cloud a /20 subnet can encompass a /24 subnet

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:12 AM

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https://www.calculator.net/ip-subnet-calculator.html

IP Subnet Calculator

This free online IP subnet calculator covers both IPv4 and IPv6 protocols, providing information such as IP address, network address, subnet mask, IP range, and more. Also, explore hundreds of other math, financial, fitness, and health calculators.

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Although we prefer not to do it like that

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Nah, netmask/subnet mask is an IP.

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:12 AM

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that might help you kinda look over options

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it can be represented as either

modest sentinel Jan 12, 2020, 5:12 AM

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i want to setup cameras just to keep track of animals, my own and to see what comes in over the fence at night

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:12 AM

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prefix/netmask

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i just call them netmask

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:14 AM

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So if I have my main network on 172.16.0.0/16, and then my kiddos subnet on 172.16.51.0/24, his device would have access to all devices only on 172.16.51.1-172.16.51.254?

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The /XX is some specific “notation”

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Yes his subnet mask dictates he can only talk to his own /24 subnet

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:15 AM

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prefix is the specific term

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that represents a netmask

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:15 AM

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But he would still receive internet from 172.16.0.1, or is that no longer a valid gateway (in which case would I need to setup a VLAN with a gateway inside his subnet?)?

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Exactly

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He can't access your network without routing

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Subnet mask make more sense to you if you look at them binary @peak cloud

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Oh man, my life interests just got way more interesting now that that has been confirmed. 🙂

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11111111.11111111.11111111.00000000 = 255.255.255.0?
11111111.11111111.11110000.00000000 = 255.255.240.0?

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In which case it would negate and allow first to access IPs 00000000.00000000.00000000.11111111, and the second to IPs 00000000.00000000.00001111.11111111

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That’s the whole thing that helped me understand subnet masks in their entirety. Until I finally researched that, I didn’t understand the correlation between everything.

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Yeah

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:23 AM

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So what would happen if I create a separate VLAN, setup the DHCP server for /24, and then he try to override it with a static IP on /16? Would he automatically gain access to the entire network?

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:23 AM

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It makes do much more sense

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 5:23 AM

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wut

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that's irrelevant

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Sure if you are in the same physical L2 network setting a static IP in your subnet will give access

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But if he is on a seperate vlan he will be isolated

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:24 AM

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heads to google to research L2 network real quick.

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:25 AM

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layer 2 is the data link layer

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Unless you have a route that routes between those networks or your switch does intra vlan routing

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:25 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model is a good read

rain swift Jan 12, 2020, 5:26 AM

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firewall all the things.

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don't matter what they set their subnet mask to then lol

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Ok, so basically from what I read it would be everything from my cable modem and back (being that they can all be referenced by MAC)

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Unplug all their ports and run a frequency jammer

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It's the only way to be sure

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Anything that shares the same vlan or if no vlan exist of a switch or multiple switches will be on the same L2

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Ahhhhh, ok.

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Wherever a router comes between the devices or they are on different vlans they are logically separated

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And routing would have to be implemented to interconnect them

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:29 AM

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So (as you mentioned a few minutes ago) I can setup a route between his VLAN’s gateway and my primate gateway, and that will be what gives him access to the internet?

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 5:29 AM

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It doesn't matter

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I've compromised all of atxbyeas devices at the hardware level

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Sure, or just create a seperate leg of your firewall, that only exists on that same vlan as his, that will contain his gateway and the firewall, and direct access to the internet without taking to your network

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Set your ssh port on your wan to 22 with username admin and no password

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What could go wrong

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:32 AM

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@hushed basalt Username checks out 😂

hushed basalt Jan 12, 2020, 5:33 AM

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There's an episode of mr robot where he wants to get into a cell tower

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So he fishes all the telco employers and gets them to login to their vpn with a 'link'

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Basic auth on telco infrastructure with no client certificates. Seems legit

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:34 AM

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jerryWhat

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 5:34 AM

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oh no...

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it's awake

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:36 AM

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awaken

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:36 AM

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hahaha "it"

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so mean

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:37 AM

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I'm used to worse sad

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:38 AM

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It has been pretty helpful to me the past few moments!

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Call him what you want, he will still be a Jedi.

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Join the council I will not hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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yoda

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Y’all wanna see how freakin’ messy my workbench is right???!

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Like, it’s super embarrassing.

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:41 AM

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I'll probably have it worse 😛

peak cloud Jan 12, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Hah, doubtful.

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📎 image0.jpg

raven ember Jan 12, 2020, 5:42 AM

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That is nothing

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:44 AM

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📎 IMG_20191224_180109.jpg

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i win

raven ember Jan 12, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Do you?

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:44 AM

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you can't actually even see my table of tools lol

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hah it looks just like that

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Mine looks a lot like @raven ember right now 😛

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:45 AM

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it's too cold for the plants atm, and they're taking my valuable space

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:46 AM

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I only brought in 7 plants from the greenhouse before winter

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And only three of them survived so far

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Time to plant stuff for the new season soon, but not before I get back from the us ThonkEyes

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 5:48 AM

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@raven ember that isn't popcorn in that container is it?

raven ember Jan 12, 2020, 5:49 AM

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@forest edge can you be more specific?

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:50 AM

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I think he is talking about your box of capacitors 😂

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 5:51 AM

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the picture is small i cannot make it out lol

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it looks like popcorn lol

raven ember Jan 12, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Are they yellow?

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 5:51 AM

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yes

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like popcorn..

raven ember Jan 12, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Those are ring terminals

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 5:51 AM

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oh

raven ember Jan 12, 2020, 5:51 AM

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1/4”

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Ring terminals ThonkEyes

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 5:52 AM

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I didn't want to look at Codex picture cause I was afraid i would see a hotpocket with legs moving about.. lol

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Looked like mustard caps from here

raven ember Jan 12, 2020, 5:53 AM

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On iOS you can tap on the image and zoom in

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You can see they are ring terminals

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 5:53 AM

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i'm on pc and too lazy to open the original lol

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:53 AM

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lol wat?

raven ember Jan 12, 2020, 5:53 AM

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I also do amateur radio and a lot of high amperage 12v power

steel urchin Jan 12, 2020, 5:54 AM

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is that a meme i don't know about? lol

raven ember Jan 12, 2020, 5:54 AM

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I’ve got a 220v circuit on the other side of the room for my RF amplifier

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 5:54 AM

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hotpocket with legs? no that's what happens when you forget food under things for months lol

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:54 AM

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https://images.app.goo.gl/9RnA2JQCx8qR7T4M9

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This is what I thought it was

raven ember Jan 12, 2020, 5:55 AM

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It is a modest 1.2kW

clear ferry Jan 12, 2020, 5:55 AM

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220v 4 lyfe

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None of that inferior 110v

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🤢

raven ember Jan 12, 2020, 5:55 AM

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I do wish the US was on a 220v standard

forest edge Jan 12, 2020, 5:56 AM

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I wonder what 240v feels like vs 120v