hah
#the-water-cooler
scenic radish
Oh I thought you meant Kevin Hart lmao
steel urchin
i actually saw that filmed from my office, they shut down all of downtown
scenic radish
YOU GON LEARN TODAY
steel urchin
oh i kinda wanna watch his documentary thing on netflix
scenic radish
ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIIIIIIGHT
steel urchin
but i've never truly enjoyed him
but i do respect him (sans his wife cheating stuff i guess), he's very hard working
steel urchin
🥁
scenic radish
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
wet pilot
aww, i used to have a button for that but flash is dead
oh well, this one still works
https://inception.davepedu.com/
scenic radish
Lol yes
wet pilot
i was sitting next to the guy when he wrote that
steel urchin
i love that sound
i used it in an animation thingy
don't hate, it was one of my first animations, and it's all programmatic
scenic radish
I like dropping this sarcastically: https://youtu.be/8URukvnUYTw
scenic radish
No clue, I first heard it in one of JonTron's vids lol
steel urchin
speaking of youtubers, i've thoroughly enjoyed this kid's vids https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtHaxi4GTYDpJgMSGy7AeSw
he's the one that made the screaming roomba
forest edge
haha i saw that video
clear ferry
Back to normal at work tomorrow 
light trout
Anyone seen the new Batwoman show?
The 9. eposie is part of Arrowverse - Crisis on Infinite Earths, and I do folow the other series there, do I just need that 9. episode or should I see the entire series?
light trout
I've seen all up untill now, I might as well keep at it to the end 😛
steel urchin
it ran for a while, didn't it? like a bunch of seasons?
light trout
Flash is S6 now
light trout
oh, Arrow is s8
steel urchin
smallville just... meh...
forest edge
flash is kind of corny
i still watch it cause i been watching it but it's corny
super hero with super feelings.. pssh
steel urchin
i kinda liked Luke Cage
and Jessica Jones a tad
but only because of the crossover
SHIELD .. nah... I didn't start getting into any Avenger stuff until they brought in Iron Man (RDJ) and even then it's tainted by Captain America for me....
but, i know i like crap tv/movies, so my opinion literally does not matter 🤣
forest edge
at least the avengers didn't take a dump like the dc movies lol
clear ferry
@light trout I just download the episodes that are part of the crossovers
I only watch the arrow and flash fully
@steel urchin I hate himym
light trout
I watch supergierl and ledgends to, so only missing batwoman 😛
steel urchin
yeah but you hate everything
clear ferry
Haven't watched legends since season 3, it was quite boring and predictable
@steel urchin only shitty not funny shows 😛
steel urchin
discord history says otherwise
light trout
I started directly on S1E1 again of the ranch after I finished it
steel urchin
it has such bad acting
clear ferry
Big bang theory seems very popular with people who think they are nerdy though 
steel urchin
but, it does tug at the heart strings from time to time
well I'm gonna go watch Lost in Space, which i'm sure you hate, but doin it anyway
clear ferry
Have only watched the old one, that was ok
Dark matter is a series I'm sad was cancelled
It was great
But the expanse is a wonderful one
hushed basalt
hIMYM is awful
Well I found it awful
Needed to end in like 2 seasons then it could have been palatable
Also Ted was a creep
clear ferry
Yeah, if it's on in the background I get annoyed because of the bad jokes
hushed basalt
Alyson Hannigan trying to look and act like she's 25 annoys me too
Just own your age and age gracefully
clear ferry
Modern family used to be good, but it's gotten worse and worse as it carries on
Atleast they killed it, albeit two seasons too late
clear ferry
I can't for the life of me figure out where FreeNAS loads it's /etc from
it's mounted as a tmpfs
so there is no use in editing files inside it
hushed basalt
USB?
I'm guessing you have a lot of surplus ECC ram lying around
/conf/base i believe
But I think it's frowned upon
clear ferry
doesn't seem to be right
the file in /conf/base/etc/crontab does not match /etc/crontab
forest edge
so trying to loop a single script by means of itself was pretty horrifying hehe
steel urchin
you mean recursion?
forest edge
thought it locked up my pi for a min, lets just leave it at that lol
forest edge
😍 pi
clear ferry
that said, I'm actually going to use a old pi I have laying around as a zigbee2mqtt docker host
to place it in the middle of the house
@hushed basalt made a workaround, I wanted to change /etc/crontab to do my rclone mount, but I instead did mount -uw / then crontab -e added the mounting with the @reboot variable and did a cp /var/cron/tabs/root /conf/base/var/cron/tabs that made it persistent through reboots
hushed basalt
I see you also like fragility
clear ferry
@hushed basalt aaaaaaa we are half way there, aaaaaaaa living on the eddddge
foggy flint
Why are almost all androidtv set top boxes out there androidtv boxes out there with 4k, hdr etc... but only 100M ethernet? Is it sufficient?
forest edge
yea 100M is plenty
light trout
nono you need 10G for that
foggy flint
I keep coming back to the nvidia shield as a candidate, however it's at least 3x more expensive
dull chasm
and prolly 3x better
foggy flint
mmh, not really, well yeah with the nvidia shield in particular, but it's not always the case generally speaking.
forest edge
i read the shield is a transcoding beast
dull chasm
just picked up the pro yesterday
light trout
mr. moneybag
dull chasm
only way i could get master quality audio streaming
foggy flint
I'm just gathering excuses to get the shield
forest edge
the new ones apparently aren't as beefy as the older ones tho
foggy flint
There are some various models right? Does it matter really which one i get in terms of streaming, hdr, audio, etc... ?
forest edge
whatever the cylinder one is
dull chasm
go pro or go home
forest edge
something is can't do the older gens could or something
foggy flint
I'm not much of a gamer, so why would i need the pro
hushed basalt
ATV4 with Infuse is quite a beast
light trout
audio
dull chasm
i dont know but wasnt taking the chance over $50 it not be a able to do what i want
hushed basalt
Plex apps are hot garbage. Infuse is quite nice and plays eeeevrerrything
Direct play of course
dull chasm
i gotta admit also the picture on tv got better with the shield pro ....compared to the roku ultra
forest edge
all that powa!
foggy flint
all those choices!
I'm not seing anything in regards to audio on nvidia shield pro vs. regular/tv ...
both support atmos
dull chasm
🤷♂️ i was not skimping on the tube looking thing when hooking up to a $2k AVR
foggy flint
I have an opportunity to get a 2015 shield for around 113usd, trying to figure out if it's a good deal or not.
forest edge
depends if it smells like smoke or not
tidal bronze
@dull chasm so you gone masters now 😄 👌
dull chasm
yep ....got 96hz on tidal and it sounds great
foggy flint
@forest edge the guy still has the box it came with 😄
forest edge
that doesn't mean much these days
I got the original box for my pc back when i bought it in 2006 lol
foggy flint
true, maybe just a hoarder
clear ferry
@dull chasm now try Nils Lofgren again!
dull chasm
@tidal bronze i am gonna figure out if i can get that curl you gave me to either select a scene or change to channel when tidal is playing on shield
light trout
LOL that box is older then some of our users 🤣
foggy flint
I did not mean to imply ...
forest edge
yea I got tons of crap that needs to be thrown out/recycled 😦
tidal bronze
I don't use scenes any more. But yes you can access any command via the Yamaha api.
foggy flint
tidal bronze
Is this on DSD @clear ferry?
light trout
WFT... that looks like a fleshlight
clear ferry
I have no idea what DSD is @tidal bronze ?
dull chasm
@tidal bronze why? i havent saved any scenes myself yet but going from tv to audio and yamaha stuck in sourrond ai or simular
@foggy flint i got the pro version
@light trout that was what i was saying LOL
tube
tidal bronze
dull chasm
fancy fancy ^^^^^^
foggy flint
@dull chasm Sorry, thought you said you bought the "tube"
dull chasm
no way
tidal bronze
@dull chasm you don't need a scene for that. If you select a DSP per input select, avr will save that setting per input.
Example, analog audio 1, 9Ch stereo would be in memory till you select another DSP
forest edge
just how many devices did they make that can play this > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Stream_Digital
tidal bronze
Most of the DSD DACS will play them 😀
forest edge
they still make those?
I like that dsd vs pcm read at the bottom of the wiki lol
heated debates hehe
tidal bronze
DACs?
tidal bronze
Depends but yes most will play DSD64
forest edge
i never actually heard of dsd or i did but it went in one ear and out the other lol
but since it's sony, i am not suprised
tidal bronze
Jep some just don't hear certain things, just nature of hearing.
clear ferry
DSOTM on SACD is pretty awesome too
@forest edge though all playstations since PS3 supported SACD by default atleast
dull chasm
@tidal bronze yea but if sources change from same input ....ie watching Plex on shield then opening Tidal on shield
tidal bronze
Then you would have to call the DSP or scene
dull chasm
Wife said you need to stop giving me ideas ..... I had puppy on lap and bouncing her say we need some boom boom like quad .... 36" makes bump bump
@tidal bronze
tidal bronze
Although listen to most my music on stax 😜
dull chasm
cool thats a old brand huh .....seems like remembe them from japan 30 yrs ago
tidal bronze
Yes from Japan https://staxaudio.com/earspeaker
undone aspen
heh, too funny. I bought TP-Link smartbulbs from Amazon thinking they were RGBW. Nope... Apparently they were just soft white dimmable ones. 🤣
Went back to check on the price of the RGBW's, and yeah.. Those are definitely much more expensive. LOL
urban steppe
\o/ im so happy, got my ledstrip working with some help on the forums 🙂
First time I've installed debian, flashed a device (ota) & setup mqtt.
..feelsgoodman...
clear ferry
getting stuff to work is so rewarding
even more so when it is a 60TB database or a vmware host with 500 VMs that is down 🤣
valid halo
undone aspen
heh
My office is pretty bad at the moment as well, but my car.. That's mostly decent.
proper swift
welp.. here goes nothing. flashing my first esphome device
proper swift
woo works
orchid rose
Nice. A lot of cool stuff you can do so easily nowadays with esp's
proper swift
yeah.. I've done it by hand before.. has a whole library written for my old homeautomation software.. but this looks stupid ez.
one of the main reasons I gave up and went to HA. Dealing with all that code was annoying when I really just wanted wifi temperature. 🙂
woeful roost
How does ESPHome compare to tasmota? 🤔
proper swift
No idea, but it's about 10k times as easy as self-writing your own ESP library for home automation and debugging the async wifi libraries
It took me 3 weeks to get a dual DS18b20 esp up and running and talking to my ha software. this took 1 hour.
tidal bronze
eapeasy/tasmota equally easy not more than few minutes to get DS18b20 going 🙂
proper swift
well, 1 hour, from scratch.. including install
the next one will take me longer to solder than program, which, yes, revolution
orchid rose
OTA uploading is very nice too
scenic radish
I used tuya-convert to eventually flash ESPHome firmware on some smart plugs. Pretty slick
tidal bronze
@dull chasm it's one of those Bona Sundays 😀
dull chasm
🤣 what is Bona
tidal bronze
🤣 floor cleaner
rain swift
I want to get a robot vacuum, I need to talk to someone who has had one for a while and find out how they like it long term.
Like, is it actually useful, or is it a gimmick.
dull chasm
it vacuums the floors what else is there to say
sometimes there are issues ..she get stuck ...wont return to base correctly ...but very seldom any issues
frozen swan
Btw which robots are compatible with home assistant? Does anyone know if Conga ones are compatible?
dull chasm
roborock here so not sure
frozen swan
Which roborock do you have? Can you tell me how has been your experience with it? I've been looking for one vacuum robot but not sure which to buy, there are so many
wet pilot
boreal pewter
I have the Roborock S50 but by now I would probably take the S5 Max or S6. In run the custom firmware dustcloud and never had troubles with it yet
The s50 got pretty cheap with below 300€ tho
frozen swan
do you need custom firmware in order to run it with home assistant?
boreal pewter
No, not need, but I Control my Roborock via http instead of the app, as well as you cut All connections to china
frozen swan
Oh ok, only in order to run it locally then
Any issues with it climbing carpets for example?
boreal pewter
My carpets are just like 1cm, it is officially mentioned it can climb 2cm. That's in the product description
But no issues
frozen swan
My carpets are like 1cm aswell. Do you have any pets? My main usage for the vacuum robot would be the removal of pet hair from the floor
boreal pewter
For my S5 I put on the brushes from the S6, then Silicon side brush is pretty nice so it cant stuck under the carpet
Not that it happened tho
frozen swan
Oh that's nice you can put brushes from the s6
boreal pewter
I have 3 cats, the dust bin is full after each run. Running it almost daily helps a lot. Yes it is not clean, wouldn't sell anymore 😂
But my Roidmi Nex Storm with 23.500pa doesn't clean it as well
A weekly manual vacuum helps additionally too
frozen swan
So you do recommend the s5 for vacuuming pet hair, this with the s6 brushes
Yeah I pretend on manual vacuuming aswell, the problem is that one day after I vacuum, my floor is full of pet hair and dust, so I was looking for a robot to maintain it clean for a little longer
boreal pewter
I would buy The S6 or S5 Max by NOW but that's just my ego. I wouldn't buy an i7 if I can have an i9. But the S50 got very cheap if you dont want to pay - too much- but yes I do use the S50 with 3 cats and it helps a lot when you Look at what it collects each day.
My brother has been talking about another one tho, he ordered it. But He is as technical as an ape
frozen swan
the difference between the s50 and the s5 max and s60 are basically more suction power, and maybe they're more smart in terms of object detection?
boreal pewter
Viomi V2 Pro is it He said would be so good 🤷
frozen swan
I've been looking at some robots from Ceotec, but I'm not sure it works with HA
that one is on a good price right now aswell
boreal pewter
Yeah more suction Power would be my Main reason there
I think the Viomi is Xiaomi too? Let me check integration page
frozen swan
Yeah I think it is, it maybe works with HA?
boreal pewter
I cant find a Info about that
frozen swan
Yeah me neither, was searching aswell.
Anyways, the s5 max and s6 both work with HA right? I'm leaning to buy one of the two, they're at pretty much the same price
orchid rose
@rain swift I've even been happy with a really cheap one myself. Gets stuck on everything though so floors need to be clean of any cables etc
frozen swan
@orchid rose may I ask you which one you're using?
orchid rose
uhm, let me see. Bought it a couple of years ago and it was like a bit more than 100€
ILIFE V5
frozen swan
139€ on gearbest, not bad at all. I'm looking for something a bit more powerful, leaning to buy a xiaomi one
orchid rose
I probably wouldn't recommend this any more, but for the 120$ or so, it's been worth the money
frozen swan
Yeah for the price, and if you bought it a few years ago not bad at all
boreal pewter
Well if you have a Shop at Hand where you can easily return, like Amazon, I would try the Viomi about the suction Power
orchid rose
The Xiaomi ones look pretty nice. Quite tall though so it depends on the furniture as well. My dad has a Roomba and it kinda sucks (🙄) for the price tbh
rain swift
I mean of course they are just vacuums but like, do they do a decent job even though they run on battery? do they have to recharge a lot when cleaning?
frozen swan
@boreal pewter the only thing about Viomi is HA integration, it looks powerful tho
@orchid rose my furniture is quite tall so no problem at all
tidal bronze
S5 and S6, been using for a long time. Rarely come across any issues once you dial in zones.
orchid rose
when automated it doesn't really matter hmjgriffon
boreal pewter
Yeah if you can return, return it if it doesn't work 🤷
orchid rose
they'll just do their thing every day when you are away
frozen swan
@rain swift I've seen my parents robot in action, and I can say it does a pretty good job. The house has 2 rooms and a big living room, the battery handles it quite well actually. And it was pretty cheap, around ~200€
tidal bronze
These are the main 2 and one more that runs foyer area.
frozen swan
I'll probably get my hands on an S5 or S5 probably, saw some nice reviews and integration with HA.
Bye pet hair
@tidal bronze so you have an s5 and s6, one on downstairs and another upstairs
tidal bronze
2 x s5 and 1 x s6
clear ferry
Four guest bedrooms
frozen swan
Those commands, it only works for specific house divisions or can you make a "clean house" and it will clean the entire house
clear ferry
I thought I had a lot with three before one became a nursery
tidal bronze
I rarely or never use clean house
rain swift
3 robot vacuums, it's a robot army.
orchid rose
carpets can be a pain with these so if you have some that you don't think the vacuum will handle the mapping abilities of Xiaomi and co makes the experience much better
tidal bronze
Got to pick the right carpets always 🙂
orchid rose
or what's the proper word, rug?
rain swift
my place is small, and kinda cluttered, so hopefully I get one with good object detection lol I have a dog, I'd probably want it to run at night while we are all asleep in the bedroom, are these things loud enough to wake you up in the next room? lol.
tidal bronze
S6 is super silent. S5 not so much
orchid rose
I wouldn't want to sleep with it on tbh. The only other one that I've heard is even noisier
frozen swan
btw @tidal bronze , when you say s5 you're talking about the s5 max right?
tidal bronze
yes
clear ferry
I run mine from 0530 to 0630
Don't notice it at all
It's in the other end of the house
The S5 that is
In balanced mode
orchid rose
don't you guys have your house empty at any point or why run it when you're home?
clear ferry
@orchid rose every morning, kitchen, because baby 😛
tidal bronze
Well sometimes upstairs vs downstairs. Everything downstairs run late night or mid day.
I would go with s6
orchid rose
I thought the differences between the models were very small though
frozen swan
s6 kinda above my budget.. it is surely nice but
clear ferry
We are rarely both out of the house at the same time, since my wife studies from home and I work a lot from home too🤷
tidal bronze
very small with functionality but sound level night and day
orchid rose
atxbyea, I guess it makes sense then
but the sound level is partly achieved by just having it run at lower power
frozen swan
sound is not a problem for me, I'm used to my loud rainbow vacuum lol
orchid rose
at least from what some YT video I watched said
tidal bronze
room detection and all the bells in S6 is pointless once you get it in to HA 🙂
rain swift
tidal bronze
Was $200 off in Nov 🙂
rain swift
I'd prefer a quiet mode and all the bells and whistles looked nice
clear ferry
I might buy a second one if I buy that 5000sqft house up north 😂
rain swift
we are super lazy about vacuuming so, it would be worth the money lol.
how hard is it to put the hacked firmware on these so you can use it in HA?
frozen swan
that in pretty much any xiaomi vaccum right @tidal bronze ?
tidal bronze
Yes
rain swift
sweet
tidal bronze
Then use the flolevac app to get map coordinates
rain swift
I prefer not to risk borking stuff that expensive if I can avoid it
tidal bronze
If you have motion sensors everywhere with 1min less trigger times you can do zone cleaning by amount of traffic.
boreal pewter
Well I prefer not to manage my vacuum via HA, rather just marking the zone on the map either via Web or App if I need that once a month. I rather run daily a full clean
rain swift
interesting
orchid rose
never even thought of that idea quadflight
tidal bronze
Been using that for a while. Since some areas at my place rarely gets used so no need to vacuum those
rain swift
more like 25 seconds
tardy spire
@rain swift just be carfeul if the dog has an accident... https://metro.co.uk/2019/07/16/roomba-irobot-rolls-into-dog-poo-and-vacuums-it-all-over-the-house-10348771/
orchid rose
I've seen much worse pictures of similar incidents lol 😄
The worst that I've had is the vacuum dragging my headphones to an another room and tied the cord to the sofa leg
frozen swan
Headphone kidnapping 😛
tidal bronze
If ever the robots encounter incidents from my dogs I will have to get new units. 🤣 I doubt they would go over them.
clear ferry
I should stop shitting in the corner if I use the vacuum 
tidal bronze
Had to replace the left wheel module on one of my S5, ran at the wrong time and my St Bernard was not happy. Stopped it on a dime 😜
wet pilot
rofl
clear ferry
clear ferry
Has it ever not been you
I have used MFA for atleast 5 years, never seen it happen 😂
forest edge
not for google but had that happen with a couple of other services lol
steel urchin
i've had ebay 2fa bypassed somehow, it never requested access, then i wake one morning to over 500 fake ring doorbells being sold, and everyone messaging me asking "why is this so cheap? when can i gte this? is it in other colors?" kind of stuff
not even sure why someone would do that really.... payment went to me.. it all got sorted really quickly actually, but it was kinda nerve racking to wake up to
forest edge
FBI! We're coming in!
hearty depot
not under multiple millions worth of damage
steel urchin
yeah it was super simple, ebay and paypal were both quick to resolve the issue
only issue i had was a month later i got a bill for the listing fees, but that took a 5 minute phone call to get squared away
split heron
@steel urchin Did you or ebay look into how it happened? Are you using the eBay app or text messages for 2 step verification?
steel urchin
text messages, nothing i can do to look how it happened on my end
when i googled at the time, a few other people were having the same issue... i'm assuming it was a flaw on their side
scenic radish
SMS is one of the less secure methods of MFA so that could be part of it
steel urchin
oh right, there was a whole sim hijacking thing going on with verizon or something right?
or sprint, i forget
split heron
The SS7 hack?
steel urchin
i don't fully recall
i remember reading something about someone paying an employee to give them sim cards that were registered or something
scenic radish
At the gym on the stationary bike right now probably looking like a fucking weirdo typing into an SSH client on my phone
hearty depot
Haxor man 😛
hearty depot
there is a flag missing and mabe sudo for good kicks
sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
wet pilot
or if you want to be super sneaky about it
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1```byebye boot sector
everything works fine until you reboot
scenic radish
There's another command too that just looks like a bunch of random characters lol
forest edge
At the gym on the stationary bike right now probably looking like a fucking weirdo typing into an SSH client on my phone
typing on your phone s the least of your problems
https://media1.giphy.com/media/3oz8xMue6At1vUhTq0/giphy.gif
velvet horizonBOT
wet pilot
probably wanted > for quote
forest edge
bad bot
scenic radish
I was jk by calling that command lol
wet pilot
Slaps @scenic radish around a bit with a large trout.
scenic radish
|| go commit sauce on the side ||
rain swift
For anyone who is curious. https://youtu.be/U2xpwdZh0KQ
hearty depot
echo {1..1000000000}?
rain swift
the s5 and s6 robot vaccum comparison.
clear ferry
Albeit I would never agree it is a pink Floyd album, it is a Roger waters solo project, this album is one of the greatest in my collection
If you haven't heard it @dull chasm you should get a hold of it
forest edge
pink floyd is awesome. my 80's were consumed by hair bands like Poison https://youtu.be/j2r2nDhTzO4 lol
clear ferry
You should check out the Norwegian bands Stage Dolls, Return and TNT then @forest edge
hushed basalt
Thisisfine.jpg
steel urchin
wow
forest edge
AU falling into the pits of hell?
orchid rose
tf is that. I should read the news more often...
steel urchin
they're on fire
split heron
@orchid rose I'm very bad at following the news and rely on other sources notifying me of important things. Come to think of it, I don't think my mom has written anything on Skype about the bushfires.
orchid rose
I get my news through memes
hushed basalt
It's a graphic showing all the areas burnt this fire season
Amazon rainforest ain't got nothing on us making the world burn
forest edge
poor roo's
rain swift
That's what happens when you let your country turn into a poop hole.
forest edge
image finding this thing in your grandparents basement lol https://youtu.be/Mgy1S8qymx0
hushed basalt
ocean mirage
Penrith has been frying, his 49C the other day I believe as a record
I was complaining in our 43C lol
hushed basalt
33 forecast here for today
ocean mirage
24 here
we had the 43C day and then have been low 20s since
its crazy
all the smoke cover probably keeping the sun out
hushed basalt
Silver lining
ocean mirage
heh, yeah
amber bramble
Schwiggity schwah?
tough igloo
How’s the smoke in my old town @ocean mirage ?
ocean mirage
Its been pretty damn bad, today seems less bad cause we got a little rain but the AQI is still horrible
i havent been outside yet tho
tough igloo
Yeah stay indoors and rage against the machine is probably best
We’ve had fires to the left and fires to the right but they haven’t been bad for about a month
ocean mirage
Where did you move to again
tough igloo
New England! B Joyce is now my elected representative 🤢
ocean mirage
🤢 indeed
hushed basalt
Does anyone know how to fold a list item in yaml
Basically I have
Array:
- one
- really long string I want to multiline for readability but need it to fold to a single line when parsed
last dirge
anybody got a sit/stand desk?
ocean mirage
We have em at work, they're good when I am not lazy
last dirge
laptops or desktops @ocean mirage ?
ocean mirage
laptops with docks for kb/m and monitors
last dirge
gah
ocean mirage
what
last dirge
I'm getting a desktop for the first time in over a decade and have no clue what to do with the case
ocean mirage
ah
I mounted my case under my desk just the other day
it is a fairly small case though so it works well
would work just as well on top of the desk tbh
last dirge
this one's a mid tower
ocean mirage
well theres your problem ;)
hushed basalt
@last dirge you have a few options
Floor mount with long cables
Undermount with bracket
I'd avoid desk mount especially if you're tall, as your desk legs will be extended higher and more unstable
hushed basalt
I'm 5'5 so you're tall
last dirge
ha
ocean mirage
are you sure you cant get a nice SFF PC
hushed basalt
Thing cables attached to a server on rails but vertical instead of horizontal
last dirge
@ocean mirage this is for gaming, so no
hushed basalt
If you have a filing cabinet or similar next to your desk
last dirge
@hushed basalt I do
hushed basalt
You can put the tower on that so it's splitting the difference
hushed basalt
So it's in the middle of the desk movement range
last dirge
so already doing double-duty 🙂
ocean mirage
ontop the 3dprinter goes the case
hushed basalt
Under desk mount is better than top mount
Lower centre of gravity and counterweights your monitors
ocean mirage
smort
hushed basalt
But still has to be lifted by your motors and sit stand desks can have a lot of shit underneath that gets in the way
last dirge
my monitors are on an arm clamped to the back of the desk
scenic radish
Very smort
ocean mirage
undermounting gives better bottom ventilation but worse top ventilation, which really worked in my case
for cooling
last dirge
I think I can front-mount my radiator
ocean mirage
AIO or custom loop?
last dirge
AIO
hushed basalt
Smaller you can get the case the better
ocean mirage
now were talking
last dirge
laughs in skull canyon
ocean mirage
I dont know what that means
ocean mirage
for some reason that doesn't want to load the but URL gives it away a bit
hushed basalt
I wouldn't recommend it
Besides the cost, even thunderbolt 3 pales in comparision to a x16 pcie3.0 slot
Saying that I do wish my surface laptop 3 had 2 x4 thunderbolt 3 ports
Then I could retire my desktop to server duty
steel urchin
did it come in Brian?
forest edge
There are plans to make the automations overview more structured so you can find the automation you are looking for easier
music to my f'in ears lol
clear ferry
@hushed basalt I'll raise you my 6'1" @last dirge
ocean mirage
are we comparing peens now
clear ferry
No, just cavities
clear ferry
I'm just glad I'm this tall, my father's side of the family are a bunch of 6'6"+, but my mom's side is 4'9" and lower
ocean mirage
yeah being tall is generally not good for your heart or back
I'm 6'4 and I think I'd happily be shorter
forest edge
don't worry at 90 you'll be 3'
ocean mirage
excellent
hushed basalt
What about those studies that correlate height with low iq
Studies conducted by the reputable University of Flaming Dingos
Lead by Dr. Notmadeupsworth
My family has short femurs
hushed basalt
My daughter was 50th percentile for torso and 30th percentile for femur at 16 week scans
ocean mirage
interesting
hushed basalt
I think tall people are dumb because of the low oxygen
ocean mirage
seems like quite a difference there
hushed basalt
Long body short legs
ocean mirage
tall people are dumb cause they like to talk about how tall they are and not much else
hushed basalt
Plus head injuries
ocean mirage
oh shit yeah
clear ferry
@hushed basalt my daughter was as tall as most 1yo when she was 9mo so I'm very interested to see how tall she'll get 😂
hushed basalt
I don't trust norwat measurements though
You probably have your own form of metric
ocean mirage
get her playing basketball cause everyone is gonna ask her if she plays anyway
clear ferry
Or she can just help all the midgets (telcotechs) get stuff from of shelves
wet pilot
mine is on the tall side too ;/
hushed basalt
My legs are more comfortable on a plane ;)
hushed basalt
I have the legs of someone 5'3 and the body of someone 5'9
forest edge
they call those hobbits
clear ferry
I usually don't have issues with length
Just my fat ass
Then again, all of Europe is at worst 4 hours by plane, and the us is 6-10 hours
Both barable, not like Australia where if you want to go anywhere it's 38 hours by plane
thick dragon
Japan is only 10 hours away. That's about as far as I've bothered venturing so far.
ocean mirage
Yeah I dont have issues with length anyone who says otherwise is lying
5 hour flights kill me enough, I can barely move
legs in the one position they will fit
although last flight I took I paid more for the exit row, worth every dollar
hushed basalt
Here's me perfectly fine with 12 hrs in cathay economy on a a350
Width could be better though
I have broad shoulders
Plus I hatteee 3 seats in a row.
hushed basalt
It's my british side
orchid rose
I wonder how much of a difference for overclocking it would make to get a higher end Z170 or Z270 motherboard instead of a cheaper one... Not that many options available and mostly people seem to sell these with a CPU attached 😦
ocean mirage
I'd save your money and accept whatever OCing you get
no telling you got a good chip for it anyway and overclocking is overrated
orchid rose
I'm not sure this 6600K is even faster than my 2500K was 😦
probably even slower, lol
orchid rose
Actually found a video comparing it. Yeah it seems to be maybe 10% faster than the overclocked i5 was. Such improvement in 4 gens 😛
river rune
Hey guys, I just got Hass.io setup on an RPi and got all my devices swapped over from Samsung SmartThings
river rune
So far it is working great. I'll be sure to ask when I have questions.
forest edge
ha should make a pact with the flirc case to get an HA skin or if something like dbrand could make something to fit the flirc case hehe
clear ferry
Zzzz not running on a proper server 🤢
forest edge
high wasted energy usage 🤢
clear ferry
Unnoticeable in a house anyway 😛
orchid rose
need to put some carbon tax on atxbyea
clear ferry
🤢
river rune
I have servers available that I could put it on but they are way overpowered for Hassio. I have one running currently that I might be able to run it on in a docker container, but the RPi was easier to setup with the zigbee and z-wave dongle. If I get to the point where the RPi can't handle it anymore I will move over to something else but I don't expect that to happen. We have a small house which means not very many smart devices.
forest edge
I would image the only time an rpi couldn't handle anything is when you start trying to run certian addons like plex for example
river rune
Yeah, I already have Plex running on my fileserver
orchid rose
the memory cards tend to die after a while from what I've heard so it's good idea to limit some of the logging
forest edge
yea if your not a pi3 and using usb you'll want to restrict the recorder/history right off the bat
river rune
I am planning on moving it to a SSD connected to the RPi sometime soon.
I need to pull my 256GB SSD out of my old desktop.
clear ferry
forbidden topics 
forest edge
@clear ferry gonna buy a an america is #1 tshirt while here to wear when you go back home? lol
tidal bronze
@clear ferry you states side? Remember you saying ATL.
forest edge
lmao
tidal bronze
Yikes. On my way to NY will be on ATL Wednesday morning 😄 Most likely will be back in a week or 2 in ATL
forest edge
has to be a sleeveless shirt if you get that
clear ferry
@tidal bronze Mr nationwide😂
tidal bronze
Today was a new low with LA traffic. 1.1 miles 42 minutes 🤔
clear ferry
Lol wtf, I'm used to 60km in 1.5-2 hours on average, but where I'm from they freak out if it is more than 10 cars in a queue at one time
tidal bronze
Yep. Last 1 mile on Sunday at LAX is nuts. Usually 20 minutes. Today was something else. Was smoking walking alongside the uber. 😄
clear ferry
Rofl
Thankfully I live close to OSL, so never queues there, I usually wake up 1.5 hours before takeoff on domestic flights
Takes me 30 by car
tidal bronze
Me too only get to the airport 40 minutes to flight. 1 smoke and munchies at the lounge
hushed basalt
I can do a real world 110km/h once I'm half an hour out the city
Plus the freeway through the city is a good 100 outside peak
And no tolls
clear ferry
I'm doing that right now 😛
tidal bronze
Always
hushed basalt
I remember when you could just walk up to the plane
forest edge
you still do for prop planes lol
clear ferry
Can't do carry on only for work
forest edge
walk up to them that is
clear ferry
Too many tools
tidal bronze
Air walk please.
hushed basalt
My home town before maybe 6 or 7 years ago
You could get out of a taxi, walk through two doors and walk onto the plane
tidal bronze
I flip with walk up crap.
clear ferry
@forest edge we have props for the small airports
forest edge
they use props still here for layovers lol
hushed basalt
It's all security theatre anyways
tidal bronze
Last time I flew a commercial prop was few years ago in Romania
clear ferry
We have a lot of small airports, like on a small island in the middle of the ocean, or way up surrounded by mountains
hushed basalt
Smallest I've been on is a 50 seater
light trout
Viderø 🥳
hushed basalt
It's about a 45 minute flight
clear ferry
I've been on a 16 seater
hushed basalt
Or a 4 hour drive
forest edge
last one i was on was somewhere around 20 seats lol
hushed basalt
But airport handling can take you 3 hours with luggage
hushed basalt
So someone can drop you off at the "recommended" time, then drive off to your destination and potentially pick you up 25-30 minutes after you can leave the airport
light trout
I prefer helicopter to small prop planes
forest edge
too bumpy
tidal bronze
Anything that can glide anyday. Auto rotating is not anywhere perfect.
light trout
Easier to jump out of
forest edge
lol
clear ferry
😂
hushed basalt
Unless it's spinning
light trout
Then you are fucked anyway 🤷
hushed basalt
Cars are more dangerous anyways
clear ferry
Muuuuurica🚔
forest edge
thats no joke
wish we had an autobahn
they say our turnpikes are like autobahns but you still get pulled over usually, atleast around here
clear ferry
Wish we had too, we have upper limit of 110kmh motorway,but I usually tend do do 140-160 when I'm alone
Nice, there is a queue to get back on the highway
forest edge
is that a driverless truck?
forest edge
you don't have those?
clear ferry
No
river rune
Smallest commercial flight I've been on was a 8 seater including the pilot, and the co-pilot seat was empty, so 6 passengers
clear ferry
We have a 10% grace mostly @hushed basalt
hushed basalt
SpEeD kIlLs. OvEr iS oVeR
clear ferry
😂
hushed basalt
2km is just the "margin for error" in the radars
So it would be 110.01 if they could
river rune
They will usually let you do 5 over the speed limit here, unless the roads are bad, then they can give you a ticket even if you are going under the speed limit if they think you are being reckless
forest edge
yea 5 over is pretty standard. most just set cruise at exactly that lol
clear ferry
I always have my cruise 10% over the limit 😂
hushed basalt
No one ever ever ever gets fined for overtaking on merging, driving in the outside lane, failing to indicate at a round about, underspeeding
Literally if you don't drink, speed or text you'll never get a ticket in your life
river rune
You can't use cruse control up here for most of the year, the roads are too icy (I live in Alaska)
ocean mirage
Between your speedo being out and the margin for error you should Be right
clear ferry
@river rune im from even further north than that 😛
hushed basalt
I sit at about 111 by GPS
forest edge
oh alaska.. big movve rush to alaska it seems anymore
hushed basalt
If I'm overtaking with oncoming traffic I'll put my foot down though
forest edge
you guys might get crowded lol
clear ferry
I'm born in Tromsø, but I live in Oslo these days
forest edge
i'm lower states lol
but it just appears that everyone and thier mom is shifting to alaska
hushed basalt
Getting away from Toupe man?
forest edge
living in the middle of nowhere off solar/hydro is too easy these days for many to not just do it
river rune
Yeah a lot of people are moving up here but even more are leaving
@clear ferry you have me beat by 2 degrees lat
clear ferry
Great movie that is set in Alaska that is a remake of a movie set in my home town, you get 5 atx points if you guess the movie
forest edge
cold wildlife porn flic?
forest edge
last movie i saw that was set in alaska was a vampire movie
apparently blood suckers don't freeze lol
clear ferry
The original stars Stellan Skarsgard
forest edge
insomia?
forest edge
i think parts of patch adams was filmd in alaska too but the movie wasn't set there
river rune
Never seen either... I'll put them on my list
clear ferry
You can probably relate since you have midnight sun too right @river rune ?
hushed basalt
You can skip patch adams
river rune
Not quite... our longest day is only 21 hours... You guys are past the 60 degree lat mark so you should get at least a couple days of 24hour sun right?
forest edge
I wouldn't mind that actually
river rune
Yeah, Tromso is at 69 degrees, Oslo is at 59
river rune
So I'm acutally further north than Oslo, but not Tromso
forest edge
I sleep during the day for a few days of the week as is so use to that part of it lol
river rune
We are at 61.5
clear ferry
It fucks up your sleep, I never slept right from I was born till a few years ago, had to move away for 5+ years to start to normalize
tidal bronze
@clear ferry makes perfect sense
river rune
Yeah, I definately sleep more in the winter than the summer
clear ferry
We have perpetual night for two months too😛
clear ferry
Doesn't increase vampires, but ups the suicide rate
river rune
What is your weather like over there? We hit our coldest day so far this year at -21 F / -29 C
That was Yesterday
tidal bronze
Damn
river rune
Today we were at -15F
clear ferry
We have had a very warm winter so far, low point is -15 I think here
Right now it's 2
tidal bronze
I was complaining about 63
tidal bronze
LA yep
forest edge
xmas here was 60F lol
clear ferry
We tend to have a few weeks of -30 here, and up north it can get -45 inland and -20 by the coast+ wind, so basically -40
ocean mirage
I’ll have a jumper on at 60f
river rune
We usually have a few days between -20 and -25 F and ocassionally get down to -30F where I live. I went to college in Fairbanks for a year and we were at -40 for two weeks and -60 for about 2 days
forest edge
people were actually wearing shorts on xmas here lol
dusty would probably be wearing nothing but undies if he was here at 60F haha
clear ferry
I wear t-shirt and little other clothing most of the winter
tidal bronze
We had a pretty cold few weeks in the 40s
river rune
60F is definately Tee-Shirt weather
tidal bronze
Today was beautiful 65 and 73 tomorrow.
clear ferry
If it drops below -25 I'll take on a sweater if im outside for more than an hour
forest edge
you self insulate
river rune
above 0F is light jacket weather
tidal bronze
Although I am flying in the opposite direction 😟
river rune
below 0 is slightly warmer jacket
clear ferry
You guys wear jackets?
ocean mirage
We had a day of 43C (110F) the other day and then it immediately hit low 20s following that
clear ferry
forest edge
yea here in midwest it's not uncommon for it to be 80F during the day and 20F at night lol
river rune
I work from home and I keep my office at ~50F just by leaving the window open...
ocean mirage
I think its just the smoke cover here messing up with the sun getting through
clear ferry
I was easy to spot in Barcelona in desember, wearing shorts and t-shirt while the locals wore hats, gloves and thick jackets
forest edge
that au falling in the depth of hell pic posted earlier was nuts
ocean mirage
I must have missed it
ocean mirage
I scrolled back a few hours and didnt see it
unless I was scrolling to fast lol
oh well
clear ferry
Scroll carefully
ocean mirage
I went to cairns last year in our winter and went swimming in the lagoon at 9pm and got heckled by the locals cause it was too cold
and it aint even that cold where I live compared to you guys
clear ferry
DOOM : Hell in Australia
ocean mirage
Oh that picture is totally fake Sonoma, most of those areas on fire do not match up
forest edge
oh
ocean mirage
the stuff in the middle/west area none of that is on fire
forest edge
still a cool pic, the reality aspect isn't cool but the pic is cool
clear ferry
The picture is a composite by NASA I believe, that shows what areas have been affected
I saw it on Reddit earlier
ocean mirage
I dont think there was ever fires recently in any of those areas, I could be wrong
idk
clear ferry
river rune
Generally I don't trust posts with no source link
forest edge
that be insane if it was like a current snapshot showing everything "still" burning
ocean mirage
ah okay so it is over a decent time period and exaggerated, there you go
clear ferry
forest edge
welp on fire or not AU is still my bucket list country lol
clear ferry
It's a great country if you enjoy things that can kill you
forest edge
which is why if i wasn't lazy I may have wifed an aus lol
tidal bronze
Lmao
ocean mirage
What did you do when you visited atx
clear ferry
I only had a layover on the way to nz
forest edge
did you go to nz to visit the sheep? lol
according to america television nz has alot of mobile/tiny home livers lol
clear ferry
No, children's camp when I was 11 😛
forest edge
children camp in nz? was a sweat shop? lol
kind of jealous.. wish I was sent to other countries for camp lol
tidal bronze
@forest edge which part of US?
clear ferry
Think we were 40 nations when I was there
forest edge
all we get here is a welcome to mexico and dysteria as a souvenir
i'm in the midwest
flat smack in the middle
tidal bronze
👍
forest edge
more like 👎 unless you enjoy cattle and dirt biking lol
clear ferry
I have no idea if it is a myth that a vast majority of the us doesn't have a passport
tidal bronze
True
forest edge
they are changing that now
tidal bronze
Real ID
river rune
Sonoma, Where at? I was born in Wichita, and my Grandma lives about 50 miles east of the geographic center of the contiguous states
ocean mirage
thats it
forest edge
course we got an alternativge to to actually needing to carry our passports through our drivers licience
yea that real id crap lol
tidal bronze
Got to get mine ina few weeks.
river rune
And yeah, most US citizens don't have a passport
tidal bronze
Renew my global entry as well.
forest edge
@river rune Kansas City, MO
river rune
And the Real ID won't change that
I have a passport but only the card so I can only go through land borders, so basically Canada and Mexico
forest edge
I think it's dumb, we were just fine not needing any of that for inner country travel lol
ocean mirage
im not sure I really understand why it was needed
forest edge
something do with illegals if i'm not mistaken
ocean mirage
I heard that the states with a high number of """illegals""" make it pretty easy for anyone to get a Real ID anyway
river rune
Alaska got an extension till next year on the Real ID stuff
forest edge
yea and states like cali depend on them so it's like stupid lol
hushed basalt
Halt Citizen
tidal bronze
Can't get away from HA even if I tried. Halfway across the country at 30000 ft
river rune
lol
forest edge
haha
forest edge
it ran over a big pile of dog poo and spreading it around like paint lmao
ocean mirage
oh those stories lol
hushed basalt
That's why I'm not having carpet in my house
clear ferry
I have told you to stop shitting in the corner of the house
ocean mirage
I might have to stop shitting on the floor if I get a roomba
tidal bronze
🤔
clear ferry
Typically Aussie people
ocean mirage
fish piss in that
ocean mirage
I only drink brawndo
quartz ether
Anyone from NZ or Aus wants to buy a bunch of server shit https://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listings.aspx?member=373829 will do great deals for the community 🙂
clear ferry
Supermicro 🤢
ocean mirage
shit you got some stuff robot
quartz ether
Lol thats the stuff I have spare...
forest edge
pimpin old stuff ain't easy.. but it sure is fun..
quartz ether
Like not even all of it just the shit in the rack that is setup lol.
ocean mirage
If you want to get drunk quick I have a drinking game for you: List random things and drink whenever atxbyea makes a sick face emoji
clear ferry
🤢
tidal bronze
😂 😂
quartz ether
Haha, My mate used to get drunk and buy things on the internet. One time she got 20 can openers because "it was like 50c each"
forest edge
lol
quartz ether
And 3 goats.
ocean mirage
thats called saving money
forest edge
how does buying 3 goats by internet even work? they come in a animlzon box?
quartz ether
I don't think anyone buys 20 can openers in a life time... don't think there is any saving there.
She had to go pick up... we were like just say sorry and don't but she organised a van and went and picked them up....
forest edge
hehe
goast are awesome at keep weeds and grass down
I don't knock having goats as pets
steel urchin
@ocean mirage not trying to get alcohol poisoning
tidal bronze
@forest edge so dirt bikes and goats now ?
clear ferry
Is there anything else to do in MO ?
forest edge
we don't have too many wild goats, just import lol
steel urchin
Meth maybe
clear ferry
Don't be hard on your mom @forest edge 
forest edge
oooOOOO
forest edge
quadflight is going to be flying away during a heat wave and atxbyea is going to be flying into a blizzard, you watch
gonna be disappointed if we don't get more snow this year
ocean mirage
PLAY FREE BIRD
clear ferry
The church scene from Kingsman would be nothing without freebird
ocean mirage
I've not seen it
ocean mirage
someone requested my friends band to play free bird
he said "heres your free bird 🖕 "
it amused me
forest edge
isn't that au for hello?
clear ferry
Thought it was how they greet their mothers on mother's Day
forest edge
here in the us back in the 60's and 70's it was considered a teen wassssuuuupppp! since there were no smartphones or anything and you only a brief amount of time to relay sarcastic hello the middle finger was the perfect choice over long distances lol
you wouldn't flash it to someone you didn't know unless it was meant as the opposite of hello hehe
hushed basalt
Yeah nah yeah nah
clear ferry
I still get ordering two of something wrong in the UK all the time
I'm just glad nobody has beat me up yet
For the US people
forest edge
welp 2 shelly 1pm's inbound, hope i don't burn my house down lol
steel urchin
heh, definitely getting scanned a ton tonight... i see gh0st rat tests, attempts at buffer overflows... a whoooolllle bunch of requests for HA bundled js with hash's in the names (none of which exist)... fun!
fail2ban has done jack all on catching anything 🤣 4yo exploits and it just says "eh... ok why not"
midnight adder
that's why push is the only viable solution
everything important that you need to do while away can be done via iPhone (Home)
strange vapor
steel urchin
Errr was that to me podz?
Not sure what you mean
I saw that headline but hadn't read it yet
midnight adder
talking about exposing web servers on home network connections and wondering why it gets probed like hell
add homeassistant hub to an appletv and you can control homeassistant via your iPhone anywhere in the world
no need to open any network ports on your router
hushed basalt
Traefik is owning me
Anybody dealt with traefik v2
@steel urchin I'm curious about these bundled js exploits
What do they involve?
hearty depot
laughed way to hard
hearty depot
I'm way to lazy - everything i need often is already a alias or function.
oh yea @scenic radish found your random characters command again :(){:|:&};:
midnight adder
how did you get my password?
hearty depot
Thats not my passwors - I just typed my password and its getting subtizizled for that. Try it out with anotherone
scenic radish
that's what it is, thank you. i saw it in some article titled 10 LINUX COMMANDS YOU SHOULD NEVER RUN
this one might look like a bunch of harmless random characters, but DONT RUN IT
as though you're going around running random commands for some reason lol
hearty depot
eeh it isnt so bad - cpu goes to 100% and ram will fill - restart and everything is fine again
scenic radish
here it is lol: https://techviral.net/dangerous-linux-commands/
yeah it's just a fork bomb
i like the mv {directory} /dev/null one lmao
midnight adder
it means create a vm and try every one of them
scenic radish
lol
hearty depot
hehe - remembers me on the zip bomb.
Asked my girl if she can unpack it because linux I told her. one minute later shes started to panic
hushed basalt
I thought my server crashed tonight
Well it did crash. But I thought permanently
Had to turn lights on manually like a pleb
rain swift
ewwww
hushed basalt
Can't wait to kick this synology to the curb
scenic radish
thankfully i haven't had my pi crash on me
hearty depot
I know the feeling 🤣
I have an pi3 with ssd running the lights (Z2mqtt) and that deam thing freezes from time to time (every 2 monts or so)
no deam clue why
hearty depot
meight be docker ipv6 related 🤷♂️ just disabled ipv6 on the host now - maybe its more stable
rain swift
How did you not kill the SD card in a year?
hushed basalt
If your computer doesn't cost $1000/year to run you're just a poser
amber bramble
I'm still rocking my original pi SD card from 3 years ago
scenic radish
😱
amber bramble
though i haven't been running HA on the pi for the last year
hearty depot
actally my old hassbian sd is also working well - HA where running on there over 1.5 years
scenic radish
@amber bramble ok why is your name gray? i've only seen a few people with a gray name, balloob being one of them. i see your role is "aparecium" but wtf is that lol
amber bramble
i think it lets me upload pictures and use expanding links in any channel
scenic radish
E X P A N D
amber bramble
which is actually kind of annoying because i hate expanding links on discord lol
scenic radish
i believe once you're a purple you can upload images to any channel. it also does the stupid previews for me lol
wrapping the link in <> prevents that though
amber bramble
yeah i think blue and purple have the same permissions