Huh, I swear I remember class also relating to wear level, but it was mostly used as advertising for speed... I dunno, I haven't used an sdcard in a decade
#the-water-cooler
steel urchin
ocean mirage
Where did that come from
forest edge
aquaman makes himself known
fleet urchin
Meh Discord scroll up and you get it some bitch'n about florida being under water and all
fleet urchin
like I said pussies ...
ocean mirage
K
fleet urchin
My whole country is build on sand
ocean mirage
You must be pretty tough mate
clear trench
Mkay, you seem like an unpleasant person.
clear trench
Life’s to short to deal with assholes.
fleet urchin
agreed
forest edge
BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.
fleet urchin
cool no problem here
unkempt bronze
On a different note... how do people go about documenting their networks? I'm in the process of creating separate VLANs and reassigning static IPs, switch ports, etc. Do you just keep a list? Google Sheet? Set and forget (look up when needed)?
clear trench
The last.
clear trench
Yeah, pretty much.
How complex is your VLAN?
If it's bad enough to require documentation, I'd go for an infrastructure as code solution.
Although I have no idea where to start with that for a home network.
unkempt bronze
Not complex as it's my first.
Management, Core, IoT, Cameras, Guest
More so around setting IPs
clear trench
Looks like Cisco router do an IaC setup
steel urchin
fyi, discord has an edit feature
fleet urchin
👍
clear trench
I really really wish they'd just make the switches look normal.
scenic radish
require an extra wire in the junction box called a neutral wire, which is lacking on many older homes. This wire is used to control and regulate voltage
Lol uhhh
clear trench
It's like early EVs, just make them look like cars.
No need to be needlessly futurustic.
I think home automation is subpar when users realize it's automated.
I want guests to not even realize that that switch is smart.
tidal bronze
Personally, best GE product so far https://byjasco.com/products/ge-z-wave-plus-smart-motion-dimmer
clear trench
Sadly, I have Zigbee
tidal bronze
I have zigbee too 🙂 But was able to rake out many of the DIY and battery devices all around the house
clear trench
And their Zigbee line is much weaker than their Z-Wave line
But this is likely on my to-buy list: https://byjasco.com/products/ge-zigbee-wall-smart-switch
I have like, 5 switches to change.
But I haven't popped off the panel to see if I have a neutral yet, so that's not great
tidal bronze
Only downside is can't access lux values 😦 That would have made it too good 🙂
clear trench
None of my bulbs are dimmable, to my knowledge.
Aside from the Tradfri bulbs, and those don't need smart switches.
fallow galleon
I might be the minority here but I don't feel the need to automate my lights.
clear trench
The dial sucks.
It pairs great with the bulb, but only the bulb.
Doesn't play well with any other network.
valid halo
So far my light automation has been a pain. Because people keep keep t-t-touching my light switches.
clear trench
That's why I want smart switches.
valid halo
or they'll WALK UP and manually use the switch on the light fixture itself
clear trench
I generally think that you really shouldn't have to use your phone for HA
If users are confused or breaking it, then it's not easy enough to use.
valid halo
I really should get one of those magnetic switch covers.
clear trench
That's why I'm gonna install smart switches instead of smart lights.
That way I can do various automations, but end-users still have a familiar means to disable it.
Any automation that has a step of "retrain my wife on how to turn on X" is a failure.
valid halo
Hehehe
clear trench
Nevermind guests.
In general with any UX, my rule is "if a bunch of reasonable users are confused, the UX is broken and not the users"
valid halo
"Now Friends to turn on the lights. You must stand in this spot here and raise your arms. Then Chant "Ok Google. Light 27 and Light 28 on. Then the lights in the guest room will turn on."
fallow galleon
I guess my house is just so small that I generally have my lights on all night until sleep. Not much to automate
clear trench
I get a ton of natural light
So I want the blinds open and lights off when the doors are open, and then the opposite.
Plus enabling lights when we come home, triggering the roomba when I leave
fallow galleon
is there any smart control for blinds that you pull hard
idk how to describe the type
fallow galleon
pull on the string to roll up
clear trench
Mini blinds or venetian
Not to my knowledge.
There are Pella ones that have built in motors and are installed between the glass, but they're also hella expensive.
fallow galleon
venetian
clear trench
I've never seen that for venetian blinds.
There are smart ones for chain drive blinds.
fallow galleon
That's one area I have automation idea but not possible for that type 😩
clear trench
Easiest way would be to replace the blinds.
hearty depot
Maybe also interesting https://liliputing.com/2020/01/kobol-helios64-open-source-nas-coming-in-march-network-attached-storage.html
clear trench
Fyrtur is currently the cheapest choice, or Kadrilj
fallow galleon
I just don't feel like replacing stuffs that are working fine
clear trench
Depending on how much light blocking you want.
fallow galleon
1 x 2.5 Gbe Ethernet jack
interesting
steel urchin
jesus... gas bill was insanely high, and they read it wrong even though it's wireless
on top of the rate going up 1300%
valid halo
I'd say my what do you call it "That'd be really cool but a pain project" would be lights that are only on when I'm in the room/around
so that as i walk around my dark house at night I don'
t need to hunt for switches
steel urchin
was 0.0032/unit, for some reason it's 0.04/unit
valid halo
1300%
This is reminding me of a clip someone posted where a Internet Rep got 0.0007 confused with 0.007 for kilobytes
steel urchin
is my math wrong?
steel urchin
i didn't give EXACT numbers, that equates to 1250 i think
still... anything over a magnitude of 10x seems a bit insane
hushed basalt
@clear trench i know a fair bit about window dressings
What exactly are you trying to acheive
fallow galleon
Just basic blind opening closing automation but I don't see any control for venetian blinds
I guess the pulling strength is too much for most motors
clear trench
Cheap motors
The lowering process is also tricky.
Which is probably the biggest issue.
fallow galleon
Yea I can see why
clear trench
Half the time I can't do it the first try.
fallow galleon
Haha, true
hushed basalt
Venetian blinds are horrible :(
Thermal performance, light blocking, all useless :D
scenic radish
@valid halo oh ffs that video
I posted that the other day in reference to something lol
So frustrating
hushed basalt
Window dressings can be a huge huge part of a houses thermal performance
clear trench
My Alma Mater had a Leeds certified building, a huge amount of that was automated metal shades.
fallow galleon
Never considered that. I guess it keeps a layer of air between the blinds and window?
clear trench
Light.
Reflecting light back away from the window has a huge impact on how much energy makes it into the home.
scenic radish
Depends on the type of window dressing IIRC
clear trench
And the glass.
But light colored window dressings reject a large portion of the thermal energy that would otherwise make it into your home.
hushed basalt
Dressings should always be on the side of the heat you want to stop
Curtains inside to stop heat getting out
External shade on the outside to stop heat getting in
Blinds inside don't work that well at stopping solar radiation
Because the energy is already inside your home by then
Basically if you spend any money at all on heating or cooling, you can save money and increase comfort with appropriate window management
clear trench
considers leaving blinds close
wet pilot
external shutters aren't that common in the states
static schooner
LowE glass is
hushed basalt
Best in terms of performance is electronic shading
So awnings that come out
Big mechanical shutters away from the window and walls etc
So that they can disappear/open in winter and close in summer etc
House orientation, air tightness, glazing ratios and positioning, internal and external insulation, ground coupling, radiant heat barriers, cross ventilation,
There's a million factors
clear trench
Passive solar is a big thing in some states.
Orienting the home so that light streams in in the winter, but is rejected during summer.
hushed basalt
Rough guides are you want a rectangular shaped house
With the long side facing the sun
Most glazing on that wall, minimal/none east and west
Your region can change things a lot though
@fallow galleon if you want automated stuff easiest is probably roller blinds with internal winders
I believe Ikea sell some now in certain regions
Although you can get mechanisms to tilt your venitian blinds relatively easily
Not lift though
fallow galleon
I don't like to throw out completely functional stuffs. That's the issue lol
clear trench
Heh, this might be the wrong hobby for you.
hushed basalt
Are your blinds inset into the window frame
clear trench
How many here have a bucket full of functional dumb LED bulbs?
fallow galleon
No
hushed basalt
@clear trench stop looking in my garage
wet pilot
i used to have inset blinds but then we replaced the windows 😦
hushed basalt
They suck at light blocking though
wet pilot
the replacement windows are a good deal thicker
clear trench
Better insulation?
wet pilot
much
hushed basalt
And you need to trim the frame to stop air transfer
Pelmets are super super useful
wet pilot
shit ass "builder grade" windows from one of the cheapest builders in the US. all of them were leaky as hell
wet pilot
Ryan Homes
No corner left un-cut! ™️
clear trench
Heh.
hushed basalt
3mm cheap glass and layed in roughly with putty
clear trench
You could be like my parents, they bought the model home.
hushed basalt
Rubber I should say. Putty would be better
clear trench
Don't do that.
wet pilot
dual pane argon filled
clear trench
~2k sq ft, 33 windows
wet pilot
oof that's worse than mine
clear trench
So. Many. Windows.
wet pilot
2.3k 22 windows
clear trench
Before they sold, their heating bill was an order of magnitude above mine.
wet pilot
40k to replace 😦
clear trench
Yeah, replacing them would've been like, 1/6th purchase price.
wet pilot
windows puls the doors
clear trench
Which just seems silly.
wet pilot
eh, you can get most of that back when you sell
clear trench
Fair.
wet pilot
and what you don't, you get back on your energy bill
hushed basalt
@clear trench that's where window dressings can come to the rescue
Two layers of curtains, from above the window frame to the very bottom of the floor with pelmet
Would make a hugggggeee difference
wet pilot
and not being a retard with your temp settings
hushed basalt
Poorly fitting curtains basically work like a heat pump
Warm air enters from above the curtains, gets cooled down by the cold glass, falls to the floor and spills out
Systematically pumping heat out of every room of your house until your indoor temps == outdoor temps
Poorly fitted curtains
Open/no curtains
Most people just throw more solar panels and heat pumps at a problem
It's like putting high octane fuel and a turbo in your car to go faster when you really just need to unhitch that boat you're towing around for no reason
clear trench
I need to stop buying from Aliexpress.
scenic radish
Y
clear trench
Exactly.
rain swift
neva
steel urchin
the wifey did a custom print shower curtain, and it's been a month, and i'm dying to see it
forest edge
what in the IFTTT is going on in here
steel urchin
last update on shipment was 12/16, so i feel ya on shipments from china
wet pilot
everything
forest edge
custom print? of what? a naked man in the shower so it looks like you walked in on a stranger with the curtain pulled? lol
curtain opened rather
wet pilot
s/man/ex lover/g
steel urchin
it's a fanart thing of back to the future
wet pilot
less amusing
forest edge
now we know what you sing in the shower.. gj lol
scenic radish
Trying to go all winter without using the window insulation film...with how our weather has been I just might make it
I only use it to eliminate condensation from forming on my double-glazed windows
forest edge
your condo dosen't use duel/triple pane windows? the shame!
scenic radish
double-glazed windows
I can't get the humidity low enough inside even in the winter
rain swift
haha
forest edge
oh glazed, not use to it being refered to glaze lol
and double still forming condensation? wtf lol
scenic radish
If the indoor humidity is high enough and it's cold enough outside, definitely
Below 20F and it's almost a guarantee
They're also 20-year-old windows though
steel urchin
if you have condensation in your double pane, that means it has a leak
scenic radish
It's not between the panes
forest edge
lost your argon gas.. which probably wasn't there to begin with lol
scenic radish
ehh, i'd expect to see haze between the panes if the seal was broken
steel urchin
like they just don't fill them?
scenic radish
thankfully i don't
steel urchin
just re-started Lost in Space since S2 is out
forest edge
never once had condensation on a duel pane window
but then I also don't point my space heater at the window during a blizzard
undone creek
stable terrace
@hearty depot helios has been around for a while, this is just their next offering.... looks like to me anyway
with updated h/w, of course
forest edge
where's all the juicy chatter
scenic radish
🍊
ocean mirage
the juice is in there I know it
I think I might need to get a new phone soon but I hate buying phones
steel urchin
I'm happy with the oneplus line myself... got a good deal on fleabay
forest edge
lol fleabay
ocean mirage
I currently got an iPhone 6S and its served me fine but its acting a little fucky
wet pilot
fucky
lol
forest edge
sporting a Zanco Tiny T1 cause i don't care for bulk
hushed basalt
Iphones self destruct after a certain amount of years
And/or you can't install any apps on them anymore
steel urchin
hang on, gonna find the saddest picture ever
hushed basalt
I saw a guy at a tech meetup the other week with a nokia e51
ocean mirage
its 4 and a bit years now, I dont know if thats a good age or not
steel urchin
forest edge
retro phones making a come back
steel urchin
$25k of dead processors
ocean mirage
wow
steel urchin
hushed basalt
Did you bork them
steel urchin
flood
ocean mirage
oof
steel urchin
i can't find the pics of the ram.... over 6 petabytes of ECC RAM fried
hushed basalt
That's called liquidating plant
hushed basalt
YoU cAnT fLoOd SeRvArLeSs
hushed basalt
Those holes not being blanked is making my OCD trigger though
steel urchin
heh it was a lab, hardware was changed just about once a month
it was actually hard to get a pic without someone in there
ocean mirage
thats a sweet park
steel urchin
it actually scared the living crap out of me
obviously wasn't expecting something to come over the edge like that
forest edge
first the chinese target you then parked vehicles.. your doomed
steel urchin
office view
that's on 6th St, it's changed a bit since that pic
i'm bored waiting on these files to sync 😛
graffiti park visit (legal to graffiti there)
that time i had to splice an hdmi cable
scenic radish
Must have been a long cable
forest edge
ew
steel urchin
yeah, don't know how long exactly but i estimated 75ft
forest edge
that's when you say screw this time to go to walmart
scenic radish
Walfart
steel urchin
every wall was foam insulated (house backs to highway and major train rail in the US)
the amount of work to dig all that out would have taken forever
and damaged a shit ton of sheetrock
forest edge
lol
just looked up if there was a quick splice for hdmi and they don't appear to make one.. kinda weird
has to be something somewhere
steel urchin
there is a board you can get now
when i did this, that didn't even exist
took forever, and had to do it twice because i had a short in the shield wrapping i made from tin foil
forest edge
thats an end i saw an end on I meant joinign two strands together
steel urchin
spaghetti!!
forest edge
way more affordable lol https://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Plug-Terminal-Block-Breakout/dp/B075Q8HG2B
steel urchin
apparently also way more unreliable lol
although, the bad reviews are saying no diagram
thing is there's no standard in HDMI for cable coloring
so you HAVE to map out the pins
steel urchin
it wasn't hard to map really... simple resistance test with a multimeter
that also assumes you have two working ends 🤣
connector snapped off, and half the pins went with it
forest edge
where this lead? to a bedroom from living room or something?
steel urchin
living room, to under the stairs where the multimedia setup was
forest edge
and noway to refish new line?
heck you could have fished two cat 5 lines and use an adapter lol
hushed basalt
When it comes to terminations
steel urchin
i put a faceplate on that bitch when i was done
hushed basalt
$75 is nothing to save grief
steel urchin
i would have gladly paid $75, had that been in existence!
although you lose the end shielding, which matters more on a run that long
untold wigeon
@steel urchin ah I see you are in Austin... nostalgic for me, spent 8 years of my 20s in grad school there. Your whole talk of HDMI issues reminded me of a shitty apartment complex I lived in there, where my buddy and I ran CAT5 to some 4 different apartments... had a little network/guerrilla ISP going there
steel urchin
haha nice.. and yep, up until last month i lived downtown... the house isn't on the market yet as it's getting a facelift, but i'm ready to dump it
out near parmer now, and loving how quiet it is just 15ish min away
untold wigeon
in that same apartment I ran HDMI through the A/C vents using a fishing rod hahaha - wanted to get it from my PC in the office to TV in living room. Obviously I did not know about things like plex back then
yea, I just applied for a job there, so I might move back. It seems like it has really blown up in the last 4 years since I left. No idea where I would live that I could get decent space and also have a reasonable commute to UT
untold wigeon
thank you! I will buy you a beer if I get it!
steel urchin
haha, i mean free beer is my favorite kind
what kind of role is it, if you don't mind me asking?
untold wigeon
Faculty ... I am a history prof doing history of tech research, but have moved more into digital humanities work now, and that's what the gig at UT is - working on projects for AR in museum curation and RPi based cheap archival scanners right now for digitizing historical materials in places with few resources
untold wigeon
I mean, those are my ongoing projects, not what the job specifically is
forest edge
that's a crazy fish through the living room lol
steel urchin
that's a fun project though
bruh, don't get me started... this house was a money suck, and the idiot who remodeled it 10 years ago did a trash job
forest edge
I would have rerouted under the floor, straight shot
steel urchin
ehhhh... digging through your concrete slab usually is frowned upon
forest edge
oh no basement? that sucks
steel urchin
lol no, not in texas
untold wigeon
As someone from Brazil who has mostly lived in Florida, then Texas, then Louisiana, basements are some exotic thing from the movies to mee
forest edge
not having a basement here in torando valley is crazy talk lol
steel urchin
i'm in tornado alley
untold wigeon
hah, hence what I meant.... I imagine basements as something people run into when escaping from tornadoes haha
steel urchin
untold wigeon
oh, didn't realized that area was considered part of it
steel urchin
my friend passed in this 😦 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WABqwKjQM_c
he didn't die that day, but a week later
internal bleeding and infections
scenic radish
sorry to hear that.
forest edge
sorry to hear it
steel urchin
mother nature is a crazy bitch
forest edge
I've witnessed about 4 tornado's up close and in person in my life.. not a fun experince
untold wigeon
holy shit... that's horrifying. sorry for your loss
untold wigeon
I am out of context - what kind of images are we talking here?
steel urchin
just personal photos
backups from phones over the years, lots of duplicates from lazy backups
untold wigeon
ah.... I have given up and keep getting more storage. Plus, as a hazard of my job, I have archival hoarding tendencies
Trying to think if anything comes to mind
what have you tried?
forest edge
wait wait.. everyone needs to take a pause and give @trail crag and applause for lasting this long. you may not understand what I mean but give the clap anyways. 👏
untold wigeon
sure 👏 👏
steel urchin
i haven't actually tried anything yet, they're still sync'ing to my local storage, but i'm just googling and looking at them...
untold wigeon
yea I just set up an NAS a couple of months ago and have been on a mad run of moving things around and setting up fun things like a plex server, etc
diteched dropbox. well, by ditching dropbox I mean I cancelled my personal account and use my work account as the offsite backup of my NAS 🙂
untold wigeon
good to know
steel urchin
bahhh i hate how bitbucket no longer lets you use the same sshkey on 2 different accounts
guess i gotta set up ssh hosts
untold wigeon
I am pretty new on managing things with SSH keys, gotta get my shit together on that and do a bit of learning to better lock down all my stuff
steel urchin
pretty easy really, just have to make sure permissions are correct
if you ever need help with it lemme know
forest edge
Hot Cocoa Cinnamon Rolls.. yum
untold wigeon
say what?
hushed basalt
@steel urchin maybe ask the linuxserver.io
They might know some good deduplication stuff
steel urchin
is that a forum? or do they have a discord?
hushed basalt
Discord
forest edge
uh oh they are calling for cyber attacks on America from Iran after the death of Soleimani
our connection to our HA servers may be slowed some
steel urchin
http://www.alldup.info/ actually isn't too shabby
wet pilot
'cause "whats a proportional response" anyway? 
clear trench
Huh, where are the HA servers?
wet pilot
its a joke
untold wigeon
oh man, I was in Tehran last summer when they shot down the US drone and I started thinking, shit am I going to have to take a bus to Azerbaijan or something to get back to the US with my family. Thought that was probably the highest point in the back and forth provocations.... I guess I was terribly wrong.
but hey, my 4G connection into the VPN server running on a Pi alongside my hassio box kept on trucking, so at least I could still get content without the 'tollah's censorship
forest edge
we'll see what happens, the "experts" keep saying they will take a goldilocks retaaliation to save face but not risk war.
clear trench
They're now in a very similar position as America was post 9/11
The internal political pressure is going to be hyper intense.
Imagine if 9/11 killed Cheney. We probably would've glassed some city.
So I think anyone who claims to know what's gonna happen next needs to turn in their expert card.
untold wigeon
yea, there's only so far historical examples will take us on this one.
wet pilot
definitely not claiming to know anything
but i would challenge the cheeto to spell Proportional without spellcheck
untold wigeon
people in my family and social circle there definitely hated suleimani, but of course no one is celebrating this ...
@wet pilot proportional? I doubt he can spell banana without spellcheck
wet pilot
nope, because it was done by a "them"
untold wigeon
beat me to it, I was looking for the tweet 🙂
untold wigeon
@wet pilot or more like shit really sucks right now, especially the economy, and this is just going to add to the shit pile
wet pilot
oh definitely. but the "them" aspect amps it up to 11
its the source of a lot of our bullshit domestically
untold wigeon
true
The fact that a local uber (Snapp) across tehran in traffic was only costing me only US$1 kind of says it all... the currency is in shit, unemployment super high ... I mean, that's the thing, the cheeto sanctions are working as designed... and part of the design is to make people fucking miserable
steel urchin
actually this alldup is really nice, highly recommend
rain swift
I set up basic automation to use the HA android app presence detection to trigger my scrips for leaving the house and coming home, we shall see how they go.
wet pilot
#330944238910963714 for that kind of talk. HA is off topic here 😄
clear ferry
Whatever you do, don't mention the HA
ocean mirage
@clear ferry Nah we've been orange for a while but last two days you can at least see some blue in the sky
hushed basalt
Blue skies for me
ocean mirage
whouda thought
clear ferry
Oof
@forest edge I bet I'll land in Atlanta exactly when the zombie outbreak happens
I'll better be the saviour and not the token international person
forest edge
depends, how fast can you run? cardio alright?
I don't like running, so I'd just find the nearest bar and take a load off, but that's just me
hushed basalt
My friend was in LAX when there was a gun scare
Ended up being a backfiring car or something
But still took like 3 hours of shutdown airport
clear ferry
hushed basalt
No spoilers pls
But I'm enjoying The Witcher
I'm four eps in atm
Enjoying it a lot more than Mandalorian
rare condor
I find it werid that as a geek I am expected to watch those two shows, like its not a matter of "if" but what episode are you up to?
hushed basalt
Just finished episode 4 I think
The streaming nature and the time jumping make it hard to keep track
rare condor
I have heard that
rare condor
also because he doesn't change physical appearance between times.
boreal pewter
Im searching for something that I probably can't get or doesn't exist
last dirge
same
boreal pewter
I want to have a App for my Windows PCs to do backups with the functionality of Duplicati but also Windows optimized to simply restore Individual files or the whole OS. I could back them up to my unlimited cloud rather than paying additionally for Backblaze
So a mixture of Duplicati, Backblaze and Windows Snapshots as an App to write to my cloud which I probably can Mount as a network drive
wet pilot
if you spin up an unraid nas you can hook your ZFS snapshots into the windows shadowcopy feature
dense pulsar
@hushed basalt watched the first ep of Switcher and was surprised how good it was. It might be the perfect role for henry cavill as he can't act but he doesn't need to show much emotion anyway!
Not started the mandalorian yet - what don't you like about it?
rain swift
I couldn't make it past the first episode, so dumb, the mandalorian was awesome though
boreal pewter
I just found out that duplicati directly interacts with Gdrive 🤦♀️ will need to reconfigure Server backups then. I hope that incremental Backup works fine... Will be some TB initially
scenic radish
i'm having a hell of a time getting output from a command to go to a file. it's for a cron job. it never writes the output to the file and i can't figure out why. here's the cronjob:
16 18 * * * scp -r /usr/share/hassio/homeassistant pi@10.0.0.3:/home/pi/backup/homeassistant >> /home/pi/.cronerr
any thoughts?
proper swift
2>&1
scenic radish
and if i only want errors to go to it?
proper swift
2> cron.err
clever mortar
Your current cronerr file gets stdout not stderr
scenic radish
right, i'm just trying to get the stdout first to check it's working
proper swift
2> cron.err > cron.out i think
scenic radish
i looked up the syntax and at some stuff on stack exchange and am tearing my hair out lol
scenic radish
ah, thank you
proper swift
that will generate output and an error
scenic radish
permission error to access the output file
should have figured that
i can fix that
boreal pewter
In scripts you can Wrap the whole Code with {} and redirect all output 😛
scenic radish
@proper swift figured it out, thanks
forest edge
#330944238910963714 reminds me of those steam games where you play the role of customer service lol
trail crag
I liked both the Mandalorian, which was 80's tv A-Team cheeseball at times...and The Witcher.
scenic radish
thing broke, fix pls
forest edge
the witcher on netflix?
proper swift
ok.. spa. added. voltage sensor, working. w00t. now to debug the serial port on my PDU.
forest edge
was contemplating watching the witcher
they should havve made more a-team movies, i thought it was good
wet pilot
you should 🙂
proper swift
then I gotta rip down the old sprinkler system and prep the box for the new one coming from amazon tomorrow... sigh. sad my sprinkler box died.
forest edge
did you play the game phnx?
wet pilot
i have a leak in my system so it has been inop since i've moved in
forest edge
cause i didn't lol
proper swift
at least it did it before I wrote the code to integrate to hass...
forest edge
was the series anything like the game? sometimes those are nothing alike lol
I remember the left 4 dead movie.. lol nothing alike
trail crag
I like that Phoebe Waller-Bridge and Richard Ayoade have now both been star wars droids
forest edge
lol
new star wars movie is something else i been contemplating about watching.. such fierce opinions on that one lol
trail crag
Haven't seen it yet.
wet pilot
they have the same source material (books) but they're adapted slightly differently
trail crag
I have a few "why am I watching this" shows...like Britannia
scenic radish
Lol nope
trail crag
When it first came out, I only saw that it was about a stalker? But now I'm seeing more references to it. Did it start bad and get more interesting or something?
scenic radish
I can't remember much from season one but it was good
My fiancee and I just binged season two lol
dense pulsar
Ozark is very good
dense pulsar
New season is due
trail crag
Kind of like Schitt's Creek...I may have judged too early. I do like Ozark. Fills the Breaking Bad void.
scenic radish
Oh sweet
dense pulsar
The new breaking bad movie was a good watch, it was nice to see the old characters again
Keep meaning to check out better call Saul too
trail crag
Better Call Saul is great
tame garden
name and friendly_name map to the same right?
forest edge
never got to watch either of those
steel urchin
Good Girls was kinda fun to watch
forest edge
Bad Girls is fun watching too
steel urchin
anyone nkow what a means when an echo dot is doign a pacman chomp in blue?
says no notifications/reminder... and google just says blue rotating means she's processing, but literally nothing going on
forest edge
out of the blue?
steel urchin
yeah
forest edge
maybe recording you?
steel urchin
i mean it still responds to my commands, and that looks different
forest edge
the lights are just activity if i'm not mistaken so processing something sounds right
dense pulsar
I think the blue chomping symbol means she's been hacked and is formatting your NAS drives 😋
steel urchin
it's different than when it's processing
well jokes on her, everything is in the cloud
wet pilot
"Alexa? Who's Alexa? My name is SkyNet."
forest edge
maybe it's getting an update as phnx said
or prepurchasing stuff for you on amazon
I wouldn't buy a echo if the thing was 25 cents
forest edge
have you tried power cycling it?
steel urchin
yeah
forest edge
that looks like the first gen, maybe it's about to die
wet pilot
i do like that amazon has been iterating on their hardware faster
but i appreciate more that google is iterating their software faster
forest edge
amazon is just too limited on what it can do in the broader scope
forest edge
googling doesn't yield a single clue as to what your puck is doing other than, "thinking"
sorry, processing..
midnight adder
aqara window door sensor really easy
wet pilot
hey Bezos
steel urchin
ok so it was a failed update, they had to force it to update
weird it wouldn't just tell you that
forest edge
had to software improve it's listening skillz
steel urchin
fine by me
boreal pewter
Isnt that an Echo V3?
steel urchin
yeah it's this lil guy https://www.amazon.com/Echo-Dot/dp/B07FZ8S74R
boreal pewter
Yeah v3
steel urchin
honestly they're better quality than i thought they'd be
boreal pewter
Also have 2
steel urchin
nice and solid feeling
i have a Show, too... but, i don't really use it... might sell it
boreal pewter
I would prefer the one with the clock for the living room tho
steel urchin
the screen is distracting
and you literally can't do much other than what it wants you to do with it... showing really dumb article covers or really bad news videos that no one cares about
orchid rose
wait, there was a TV Show conversation and Mr. Robot wasn't mentioned. I'm I in the right discord?
orchid rose
shots fired 🙂
steel urchin
i hate hacking/tech shows
it's like being a doctor and watching ER, i'd break my eyes from rolling them too hard
boreal pewter
Person of interest, really think that is kinda reality in murica land
orchid rose
It's pretty good in that regard though
steel urchin
i like dumb tv/movies
orchid rose
not so much enhance buttons or hacking with l337 speak
steel urchin
2 idiots 1 keyboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ
this always cracks me up
orchid rose
😄
that's the type of dumb shit I hate too with tech shows
Silicon Valley used to be pretty good too, but I think they just ran out of ideas
steel urchin
yeah, that was ok
did you see the finale video they put out where they were all old?
orchid rose
not the whole thing. I saw it in my YouTube recommended but skipped it
steel urchin
it wasn't as satisfying as i wanted it to be
also, no one mentioned Firefly
so... that...
orchid rose
never seen that
steel urchin
took me forever to get into it, well after the show was cancelled... A friend i let stay at my house left one of the dvds in my player and one day after dropping the remote it started up, and i let it go.. and ended up really enjoying it
clever mortar
It was good, as was the film that followed on
clever mortar
I dunno, they did the best they had with the opportunity
And overall, I enjoyed it
forest edge
yea the movie wasn't bad
steel urchin
i didn't hate it, just i've watched it twice and probably won't ever again... the series i try to watch once a year
proper swift
argh I hate trying to debug rs232
forest edge
I have a forcefeedback flight stick that still uses that lol
orchid rose
I bought my last motherboard based on the fact that it had rs232 for IR control... I feel like I'm being left behind by tech advances
they are removing headphone jacks from phones 
rain swift
The future is now old man. 😂
light trout
Sounds like you work for apple
forest edge
future better not be dongles i'd scream
clever mortar
The future is a stack of dongles, implanted in your spine 😛
forest edge
well that's diffrent, they call those chips lol
forest edge
apple 🤢
brisk glen
_laughs at his work computer that ate shit thanks to a windows update the other day _
Had to reimage that
steel urchin
never had windows fail me
brisk glen
It ate shit soo bad that the bootloader was corrupted
steel urchin
now, linux i've had dependency hell quite a bit, but that's what i get for running gentoo
brisk glen
Well, thankfully it only took me 2 hrs to get everything up and running again
Most of it was wishing I had a faster SSD
steel urchin
nice
wet pilot
mmm i do miss that sometimes
scenic radish
nice
clever mortar
PXE booting is awesome, more so when you PXE boot and rebuild the wrong hosts...
brisk glen
Hahahaha
There have been 3 near full root collection wipes
All required a shutdown of the backend to stop :p
It’s nice to have that virtual axe
proper swift
muahahahah! Hacked into my new PDU.
wet pilot
i just signed back up for a gym membership
proper swift
yay for undocumented serial pinouts on rj45. yay for defeat pinout!
wet pilot
its been...a few years
clear trench
It's frustrating for me because I was very diligent for most of 2018, and then for the last 3 weeks work stress, travel, and sickness took me out.
The amount of progress loss in 3 weeks is ... disheartening.
But good on you for signing back up.
wet pilot
cardio takes the worst hit. strength usually doesn't regress too too much in that amount of time
clear trench
Depends on strength skill.
wet pilot
GAINZ GOBLIN
clear trench
Body weight stuff disappears quickly.
wet pilot
fair
clear trench
Which is most of what I do...
clear trench
I've cooled on weighted work after totally failing a backsquat.
I only dodged a massive injury by ducking under the bar and throwing it overhead.
Scariest shit I've ever done.
wet pilot
the fact that my cardio is basically gone is what's motivating me to go back. Daughter is getting close to running and i'm not letting a sub-2 year old out run me
last dirge
did you start with just te bar?
last dirge
you should always bail by dropping the bar backward
clear trench
I was already moving forward.
last dirge
so let go and move forward faster
clear trench
By the time I realized that I needed out, it was way too late for that
last dirge
you weren't working out in a cage or with spotter arms?
clear trench
I escaped without injury, thank god, but I've earned both respect and fear for that movement.
Spotter wasn't paying enough attention.
wet pilot
haha
wet pilot
fire the gym
last dirge
no shit
clear trench
It's mostly a gymnastics place, there's less space for that.
last dirge
your gym doesn't have a squat rack?
forest edge
can anyone use the . hass commands?
last dirge
.hass yourmom
velvet horizonBOT
forest edge
can we add some of the custom cards to it, hotlinking through . would be so nice
wet pilot
there is a process to add commands. i forget what it is though
most of it just scrapes the main HA site
light trout
just the sitemap of it
brisk glen
I got fat over the holidays
clear trench
Who didn't?
last dirge
I'm about the same as before the holidays
clear trench
I'm a solid 20lbs up
forest edge
add https://github.com/custom-cards/button-card to something like .custom-button cause I refer to that ALOT in lovelace
clear trench
(Work stress is a larger factor in that than the holidays)
last dirge
a svelt 174
clear trench
Good on you.
brisk glen
Yah.... diet and exercise for me and the wife
clear trench
Food and sleep are a bigger factor in weight than exercise.
I've been fat and strong plenty of times in my life.
last dirge
can't outlift your fork
clear trench
But I'm back on Keto, not drinking, and getting sleep.
So, NBD. I'll be back to 180 by late February.
I'm blessed/cursed with the ability to gain and lose weight suuuuper fast.
wet pilot
setting up that calorie deficit has the most impact. Exercise can assist but not replace that fact
last dirge
intermittent fasting FTW
clear trench
That also works great.
That's harder to fit into social life though.
One can always order a steak, but explaining not eating through a shared meal is trickier.
last dirge
social life?
clever mortar
I've heard of those
light trout
sitting in front of a computer all day and forgetting to eat works for me 🤷♂️
last dirge
are you one of those weirdos that eats later than 8PM on the regular?
AKA "most of Europe"
fallow galleon
So does Ecobee allow multiple account? or do I need to use the same email address on multiple phones?
brisk glen
Eat protein and veggies at night
light trout
if I remember to eat, it's way later then 8PM
brisk glen
Aka fish and a salad 🥗
wet pilot
@fallow galleon set it up once on your phone and give everyone else HA access 😛
clear trench
It upsets my sleep too much.
wet pilot
i don't eat breakfast, sometimes eath lunch and usually eat dinner
last dirge
@wet pilot on that OMAD
brisk glen
@wet pilot but but ha needs to be able to lock users to a certain Lovelace page
fallow galleon
@wet pilot only thru HA? 😮 I just have it set to someone else
clear trench
And my coffee has enough cream in it to count as a meal.
Morning person.
Up at 5AM, gym by 6
brisk glen
Breakfast is the most important meal...
wet pilot
heh i long since switched over to black coffee
clear trench
I've never been convinced by that aphorism.
wet pilot
~1 calorie per cup
brisk glen
You need to eat more often but eat less
last dirge
if you don't eat breakfast your body stays in ketosis
clear trench
Honestly, I think that's bullshit.
last dirge
which destroys fat
brisk glen
No, your body goes into store fat mode
last dirge
no it doesn't
clear trench
Fasting is fine, but most advice around how often you should eat is not well backed by the science.
brisk glen
Well, for most people
clear trench
I mean, find whatever works best for your body and your schedule.
But "You need to eat X times a day" is unscientific nonsense.
wet pilot
"breakfast is the most important meal of the day ™️ " myth pushed by the dairy industry
clear trench
☝️
last dirge
with intermittent fasting your body switches over to fat stores for energy sometime in the night
brisk glen
@last dirge I’m going to go based on my wife who is a doctor
clear trench
Nutritionist?
last dirge
cool, I'm gonna smoke Camels based on doctors who were on commercials in the 70s
brisk glen
No need for dairy, just carbs, sweets
clear trench
Because most doctors are as useful at nutrition as nutritionists are good at planning out a chemo routine.
brisk glen
@last dirge it’s for the brain..
wet pilot
doesn't change the fact that it was a supremely successful marketing campaign
brisk glen
You should eat in the first 2 hrs of waking up
clear trench
"Your brain needs carbs" is nonsense from the 1990s
brisk glen
Right science fallacy
clear trench
Given that ketone bodies can and do cross the blood brain barrier.
And show neuro-protective properties.
light trout
Camels are nice but I prefer Marlboro
last dirge
since I started intermittent fasting I don't get that "hit the brick wall" effect at 2-3PM like I did prior
clear trench
Anyone who argues that you need sweets is off their rocker.
clear ferry
@light trout Mentolett
forest edge
I need sweets
brisk glen
You should eat in that 2 hrs of waking up
last dirge
@clear trench would you say they're kuckoo for Cocoa Puffs?
clear trench
Lol.
last dirge
or Froot Loopy?
clear trench
Lol again.
last dirge
I bid this conversation a Honey Nut Cheerio
clear trench
Again "you should eat when you wake up" is brought to you from the same people who think that ketosis and ketoacidosis are the same thing.
wet pilot
also, marketing
clear trench
That too.
last dirge
gotta get that pre-diabetes in
clear trench
If you want to push up General Mills stock, fine.
last dirge
a nice big bowl o' beetus
wet pilot
Post ®️ has a say in that
clear ferry
Diabeetus cha-cha-cha
clear trench
But if you want to get people healthy, then that advice is crap.
Especially combined with "you need carbs and sweets"
forest edge
this convo has dark overtones which puts my good cereal in a foul mood
clear trench
Now, the exact amount of carbs your body will be happiest with will vary. My body prefers basically none, while my wife does best at 75g or so a day.
steel urchin
thought about trying the intermittent fasting
last dirge
do it
clear trench
You need to be keto adapted first.
last dirge
nah
steel urchin
esp right after these damn holidays
clear trench
Well, it'll be more pleasant.
last dirge
you just gradually increase the fast length
steel urchin
ketosis will come no matter what lol
last dirge
if you drink coffee that makes it REALLY easy
clear trench
- All of the above only works if you're not diabetic.
last dirge
the coffee helps to shut up your stomach
wet pilot
coffee all day every day
brisk glen
All the more so as it helps Control Blood Sugar
clear trench
If you're already diabetic, one must worry about the acidic effects of keto bodies and whether your blood can properly buffer the change.
clear ferry
@wet pilot no less than 7 cups a day please
clear trench
For a non-diabetic, this is a non-concern.
wet pilot
but i'm addicted to both caffeine and nicotine at this point. they're inversely related too 😦
clear trench
I'm highly addicted to caffeine.
wet pilot
nah, i cut off at 3-4
last dirge
I'm glad I never picked up a physical vice
clear trench
I figure if coffee is my worst one, I'm golden.
last dirge
well, other than a literal vice
brisk glen
Like coffee?
clear trench
I'm down from my 2L a day era.....
wet pilot
vaping is also part of why my cardio is gone
forest edge
ew vaping 🤢
clear trench
The FDA really needs to put a limit on nicotine levels for OTC vaping
last dirge
I'm not reliant on coffee, I can just as easily chug water
brisk glen
Caffeine is my vice of abuse... Soo hard to not have more
clear trench
A Juul cartridge in America has 2x the nicotine as it does in the UK
steel urchin
water is my go-to... cheap lipton black tea is my 2nd
brisk glen
At least I know I have issues :p
wet pilot
i just dropped from 6mg/ml to 3mg/ml
forest edge
cocaine here, sheds pounds like butter
clear trench
Which is part of why they have basically no issues with teenage addiction.
Whereas in Americas something like 75-90% of teens are addicted these days.
wet pilot
3mg/ml is supposedly below the addiction threshold
clear trench
Depends on various factors.
Such as what salts are included.
Nicotine uptake is a complicated thing.
wet pilot
salts here are usually 24mg+
steel urchin
average cig has 12mg
clear trench
Pure nicotine doesn't really absorb well.
steel urchin
most people that go into vaping go right to 24mg
last dirge
I feel like @peak cloud might have some knowledge here
wet pilot
i'm just using pg/vg mix
steel urchin
i am around 0-3mg depending on how the last month went lol
clear trench
All in, I think the US should criminally prosecute Juul.
steel urchin
max vg myself
wet pilot
same
clear trench
I think they've purposefully hooked teens.
steel urchin
aren't they?
last dirge
bobs and vg?
steel urchin
wet pilot
backed by Philip Morris, why is anyone surprised?
clear trench
For the rest of them, vaping shows great potential for harm reduction. A ban is silly.
wet pilot
they're killing flavored pods at least
last dirge
you mean the tobacco companies who lost a MASSIVE amount of revenue when xennials and millenials decided "fuck this" is attempting to get gen Z hooked on their stuff?
wet pilot
doesn't affect me since i just get the juice
clear trench
Yeah, I do.
steel urchin
i mean, let's not forget parents exist
wet pilot
also yes
steel urchin
my parents beat my ass when the slightest thing they didn't agree with happened
forest edge
could be worse, teens snorted aerosol can's in the 80's
clear trench
Yes, but when the overwhelming percentage of kids are using Juul, and a large percent weren't even aware it had nicotine....
wet pilot
this is a perfect example of modern America
last dirge
aNd I tUrNeD oUt NoRmAl
clear trench
When you start seeing 90+% of kids trying a Juul, you can't blame the parents.
steel urchin
well i didn't smoke cigarettes! lol
clear trench
There has to be something more systemic behind numbers that big.
steel urchin
"if all your kids jumped off a bridge, would you?"
clear trench
It's a good theory, but peer pressure is both real and strong for teens.
last dirge
didn't drink until I was 27-28
clear trench
Ignore that at your own risk.
clear trench
Hah.
steel urchin
in the end, you are responsible for you and yours.. shirking the responsibility to others and your government is how a police state happens
last dirge
probably had something to do with it
forest edge
well that last part helped with the others lol
clear trench
@steel urchin that's like arguing we should just let stores sell alcohol to teens.
steel urchin
why not?
clear trench
We have regulations for a reason.
steel urchin
i say legalize all drugs
last dirge
I was more interested in getting my 66MHz computer I overclocked booting Windows 3.11 in under 20 seconds
steel urchin
let the idiots kill themselves
clear trench
We've tried that.
Have you ever seen the stats on how much the average american drank before prohibition?
By 1830 the average per capita consumption of alcohol was 3.9 gallons a year.
last dirge
have you seen the stats on how much people walked before prohibition?
steel urchin
lol
last dirge
far higher
clear trench
Now prohibition was a complete and utter failure in its approach to banning alcohol.
Don't get me wrong.
last dirge
3.9 gallons; so that's like 16 handles
last dirge
that's a lot of booze
clear trench
But the decision of prohibition afterwards was "maybe we should try some more gentle regulations"
steel urchin
you can't tell humans what to do
steel urchin
that's literally what sets us apart from every other species
clear trench
Someone doesn't have a cat.
steel urchin
really? i see people smoking all the time
clear trench
Look at the stats, smoking is on its way out.
Well, was.
Juul will probably reverse that.
wet pilot
they just bumped the minimum age to 21 in the US
steel urchin
no, it was on the way out for KIDS
forest edge
smoking isn't going anywhere.. vaping maybe but not smoking
clear trench
Until Juul, the numbers were trending down quickly.
Addicts would likely not quit, but year over year fewer people started.
steel urchin
and no one is going to convince me a camel on a billboard caused anyone to smoke
last dirge
- sponsored by Lucky Strike
clear trench
"No one is going to convince me that" is a conversation stopper.
forest edge
everyone need a crutch and dfiff people find that through diff means. that's what starts smoking for some
steel urchin
exactly
wet pilot
plus, its a great stimulant
steel urchin
i mean smoking and drinking is great lol
wet pilot
yeah, miss that sometimes
last dirge
just remembered I'm going to one of my fav BBQ places for dinner
totally forgot
now I'm stoked
steel urchin
gatekeep of the day: if it's not Texas barbeque it's not barbeque 🤣
clear trench
Ready for my hottest take?
steel urchin
let's have it
clear trench
BBQ is highly overrated.
forest edge
I'm from KC, we smoke texas bbq lol
steel urchin
alright let me just build a GUI to track your IP reaaallll quick
you smother it in sauces and add too much sugar to it lol
not trying to make a soup!
forest edge
we got more kinds of bbq then a salad bar has dressings lol
steel urchin
salt, pepper, onion powder, maybe some cumin and garlic powder.... smoke for 16 hours
last dirge
you've just had shit BBQ