the-water-cooler

[ocean mirage]

Pretty amusing cause they helped lots

[last dirge]

@tidal bronze almost has me talked into getting a Ubiquiti managed poe switch and throwing up some APs

[quartz ether]

I clearly missed it all ahaha. Oh well.

Unifi Poe switches are not cheap.

Lovely units and I have some but damn...

[ocean mirage]

Yeah nbd really just funny

[quartz ether]

Brian there are plenty of calculators for how many units you need. I cover my 240sqm house with 1 unit and can get coverage at the end of my drive (50 ish m) away from the unit through brick walls.

[last dirge]

@quartz ether My house blocks signal like crazy

my main problem is I need to section off stuff to different APs

right now everything's connected to mostly 1 AP and it's dying

my house is roughly the same size as yours

[quartz ether]

I use seperate radio's for that, 2.4ghz is all my HASS stuff, 5ghz is for devices/tvs

[last dirge]

with my current WAP I don't get enough penetration on the 5GHz spectrum to use it everywhere

[quartz ether]

If your house is pokey there is plenty of ways to do it including in wall wifi units that replace network jacks and keep passthrough ability. Easily cover single room with one unit.

[last dirge]

an AP on each level would handle it

I'm running one of these in the garage https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078R4HWJY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

the main AP is an old ASUS router that I'm pretty sure is having hardware failure

which isn't helping anything

[fallow galleon]

Does Unifi do handoff better between themselves? Currently I have 1 UAP and a linksys router as AP

[last dirge]

I'd probably just get another one of those same APs and see about relocating some stuff

[tidal bronze]

@last dirge if you want end to end 5ghz do 2 x HD with fast roaming and a LR in the middle for 2.4ghz

[last dirge]

gotta wait a month or so 🙂

just bought 2 roborocks and stuff to build a PC

[quartz ether]

I would be doing HD as well if you have high usage devices or lots of devices.

lol at the roborocks

[tidal bronze]

I have about 77 2.4ghz and 19 5ghz

[quartz ether]

Not in your house

lol

[tidal bronze]

Yes in my house.

[quartz ether]

WTF do you live in a hotel?

[fallow galleon]

what are those

[wintry crow]

Hmmm fit an AP on the roborock...

[scenic radish]

what are thoooooooose?

[quartz ether]

Or do you mean devices ?

[last dirge]

devices

[quartz ether]

Lol... I was thinking access points I was like WTF for haha...

[fallow galleon]

still a lot of devices

[wintry crow]

Just... because!

[scenic radish]

signal strength so strong it's a positive number

[quartz ether]

I am no where near that its like 20-30 2.4ghz and another 20x 5ghz when everyone is home/watching tv etc.

[tidal bronze]

By this weekend it will hit 97 x 2.4ghz. Some more tuya converts going live. 😄

[wintry crow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvz3LRK263E

[quartz ether]

That is crazy. Buy an XG unit and get some 10gb going 🙂

[tidal bronze]

I have 2 x LR and 3 x HD pro. No need for 10gb yet. Not more than 2 x 4k Plex streams at a time in the house. Those are all hardwired anyway.

[last dirge]

@tidal bronze I'm pretty sure I've got water ingress somewhere

any suggestions on dielectric stuff?

[quartz ether]

I have like 20 LR units at work and I got them YEARS ago. it annoys me they arent discontinued so I have an excuse to upgrade.

[tidal bronze]

AP AC LR?

[quartz ether]

I get lots of "the wifi isnt working" when theres 100+ people trying to use it.

[tidal bronze]

@last dirge in to the box ?

[clear ferry]

You should have seen my 1500 ap installation and channel tuning

[orchid rose]

when do we meet at quadflight's place?

[last dirge]

@tidal bronze no, at the LED strips most likely inside the connectors themselves

[quartz ether]

@tidal bronze UniFi AP-LR no ac

[tidal bronze]

Coat with RTV or conformal coating from mg chemicals

@quartz ether that's old old LR 😄

[clear ferry]

My watertight relay box wasn't waterproof I found out today

[last dirge]

like this? https://www.amazon.com/MG-Chemicals-Premium-Acrylic-Conformal/dp/B06XWGCKX5/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=conformal+coating&qid=1578064834&sr=8-8

[clear ferry]

I need to redesign for this summer

It was splashing inside when I picked it up in the greenhouse today

[tidal bronze]

https://www.mgchemicals.com/products/conformal-coatings/silicone-conformal-coating-422b

[quartz ether]

Got 5x UniFi AP-AC v2 when they couldn't keep up for our high use sites and they got discontinued like a year after and now I cant do anything with them they are stuck on the same settings. No firmware can't provision outside of ssh

[tidal bronze]

That's the bad thing about unifi old ap's

[quartz ether]

I think I have like 6x LR in a crate, I just refuse to put them back into sites now and instead upgrade to newer gear.

I kinda wish that Unifi made a universal mount that worked for ALL of their AP's not depending on if have a big or small unit.

@last dirge this is why I need the throughput to my array

[last dirge]

what the hell?

[quartz ether]

Thats my Cache drive doing writes... 470MB/s to a Raid1

[clear ferry]

Those are rookie numbers 😛

[last dirge]

@tidal bronze is that paint on?

[tidal bronze]

Yep

[quartz ether]

Lol atxybea Give me your bank balance and I will see what I can do 😛

[last dirge]

@tidal bronze is it easy to remove if I screw up?

[clear ferry]

What does my awesome salery have to do with disk throughput? 😛

[tidal bronze]

Hmmm. That's a good question. @last dirge😀

[last dirge]

I'm using some crappy connectors for the LED strips

[wet pilot]

mmm the wonders of a budget of "yes"

[quartz ether]

well 32tb Ruler drives and new supermicro servers arent cheap 😛

[tidal bronze]

@last dirge give me. Second.

[clear ferry]

Supermicro🤢

[last dirge]

I'm using these https://www.amazon.com/Connector-5-Pack-Solderless-Connectors-Conductor/dp/B07R4MNS66/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=ws2811+connector&qid=1578065454&sr=8-11

[clear ferry]

🤢

[quartz ether]

lol well feel free to buy me a Nimble unit 🙂

But they are just proprietary gear in a sm case 😛

[clear ferry]

Nimble is for small Fry's, go primera or go home

[tidal bronze]

@last dirge cheapest would be liquid electrical tape.

[fallow galleon]

pretty sure everything I have is 🤢 to atxbyea

[clear ferry]

🤢

[last dirge]

@tidal bronze I don't really care about cheap

the connectors are kinda picky about placement

[tidal bronze]

Easy to remove too

[fallow galleon]

Mr. rich guy there @last dirge

[last dirge]

I'm just worried I'll goop it up with the stuff and it not work properly

[clear ferry]

Get better connectors 😛

[last dirge]

better connectors won't fit in the housing

[clear ferry]

Get a better housing 😛

Improvise, adapt and overcome

[tidal bronze]

Hardwire and dip in liquid

[last dirge]

bigger housing won't fit where these are installed

[fallow galleon]

Get a better house

[valid halo]

atxbyea has such high standards his own set up makes him go 🤢

[clear ferry]

🤢

[tidal bronze]

@valid halo statement of the day

[clear ferry]

Sometimes it does, especially when I have to reproduce someone else's setup 😛

[quartz ether]

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/08/08/supermicros_1_pb_slimster/ This still wins 1PB of Flash storage in a 1U case

[clear ferry]

Per U zzzz, we have unlimited Us usually anyway 😛

Preferably 1600 spindles over five racks than some crammed into 1u

[quartz ether]

I have like 240TB and it takes up 12U at the moment. Give me a 1PB 1U of 3.2gb write speeds anyday. That thing would be the DREAM home server

[tidal bronze]

@last dirge did you get the maps etc from the roborocks?

[last dirge]

no

I can't get the S4 to play nice with the tools to get its token

[tidal bronze]

even with memu?

[last dirge]

yep

memu crashed constantly

well, mi home crashed in memu constantly

[tidal bronze]

what server did you use for the initial registration?

[last dirge]

I don't have a mi home account

the S4 has a new app

[tidal bronze]

you have to setup with the regular mi account/app

[last dirge]

called, unsurprisngly, Roborock

[tidal bronze]

lol

[clear ferry]

The roborock app has shite rating on play store

[last dirge]

probably because it doesn't work with the S5

[valid halo]

Clearly we should make our own Roborock app

with blackjack

and hookers

[last dirge]

and people don't fucking read

[valid halo]

Reading? Reading? You expect me to read on this new fangled touch screen. I just touch the brightly colored shapes and things happen

technology is too confusing

I'm g oing back to my abacus

[quartz ether]

@clear ferry can your salary buy me this?

Supermicro SuperStorage 1029P-NES32R | SSG-1029P-NES32R
2x Intel Xeon Platinum 8280 Processor - 28 Cores, 2.70GHz, 38.5MB Cache (205Watt)
24x 128GB 2666MHz DDR4 LR ECC DIMM Module
32x 15.36TB Samsung SSD PM983 NF1 NVMe Ruler 30.5x110mm SSD

$256,109.36

[clear ferry]

In two years, yes 😛

[quartz ether]

Im sure I will be fine with 1/2 a PB

[valid halo]

Bah. You'll be asking for a full PB in a year

"Mr Atxbyea. My PST Files have filled up my space. Can you get me more hard drives?"

[quartz ether]

You get 200$ an hour.... I get 100k and I am on like $40 an hour.

[valid halo]

I'm currently making 0$ an hour

hooray for unemployment

[quartz ether]

You clearly live in the wrong country. I have had staff quit because unemployment would pay them more than I did when they worked.

[valid halo]

Gosh.

Well I have been working as an independent contractor since august. Got me 24 an hour but no unemployment once the contract ends. Thems the breaks.

[scenic radish]

hey guys

[quartz ether]

Hey

[scenic radish]

hello fellow purply boi

thanos name thanos name

[clear ferry]

[quartz ether]

TBH I dont think my Padawan abilities are that strong these days. I haven't been active since like 0.80 lol. I did an update the other day and was like WOW sooo much new shit.

[scenic radish]

uh-oh

bake em away, toys

[last dirge]

I hate when idiots get put in charge

[fallow galleon]

baby Yoda flair request

[scenic radish]

🤢

[last dirge]

this DB server is in philadelphia

reports time as eastern time

[quartz ether]

Though I have not had a single thing break in my HA that I couldn't fix easily 🙂

[last dirge]

but if you query its timezone it says it's GMT

what the hell

[scenic radish]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-whitepersanguardian-why-gif-10312546

[last dirge]

exactly

the database started shifting dates based on the client's timezone setting and I couldn't figure it out

[clear ferry]

DBA work

[last dirge]

need that nuclear facepalm someone posted a while ago

[scenic radish]

[last dirge]

perfect

someone made it a macro?

[scenic radish]

tinkerer did

[clear ferry]

[scenic radish]

TINKERER PLS

[clear ferry]

Pls

[scenic radish]

ludeeus, frenck, any green boi

pls

[clear ferry]

[scenic radish]

❔

[wet pilot]

https://giphy.com/gifs/owl-florida-grill-ErLimaUL0blbW

[last dirge]

that'd scare the shit out of me if I noticed it

Owls are scary

except for that picture where someone lifts all the puff up on an owl to show its legs

that's pretty hilarious

https://sadanduseless.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/long-owl-legs14.jpg

[clever mortar]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-mood-7NP07dTr1gZstAan9f

[last dirge]

lorry

what a british word

[clever mortar]

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/694108-the-problem-with-defending-the-purity-of-the-english-language

[last dirge]

is a lorry the same thing as what would be called a "straight truck"?

or box truck?

[clever mortar]

Yeah, mostly

[clear ferry]

Box truck I would say

[clever mortar]

Also includes articulated units though

[clear ferry]

Close to the Norwegian word

[clever mortar]

That's also an artic

[last dirge]

unless it's a bus

then it's a bendy bus

[clever mortar]

Yeah, but they're insane different

Or possibly bonkers

[last dirge]

so you call the thing that comes apart the same thing as the one that doesn't?

[clever mortar]

Sometimes

[clear ferry]

Yes same here

[clever mortar]

Lorry is the all encompassing word for all sizes

[clear ferry]

We just say Lastebil to cover all

[clever mortar]

A "box truck" is more a truck, except a truck may also cover much larger things

[clear ferry]

Roughly translates to loading car

[clever mortar]

A van is what we call the things larger than a car, and smaller than a truck

A large van can be the same size as a small bus though

[last dirge]

like a sprinter

[clever mortar]

Or, about the same size as a small truck 😉

[last dirge]

those are huge

[clever mortar]

Yeah

[last dirge]

have you seen the "small trucks" in the US?

like the new Ranger

I think it's different to what you guys get as the Ranger

[clear ferry]

A sprinter we call a Varebil or goods car 😂

[last dirge]

we call it a "free candy" van

[clever mortar]

Yeah, that's a pickup

[clear ferry]

We only use that term about the American vehicles

Like the Chevy astro

[last dirge]

that's a "carpet installer" van

or a painter van

depending what's on the roof 🙂

[clever mortar]

Over here, pickups are generally viewed as being very different from trucks (or vans)

[last dirge]

so over there

[clear ferry]

In Norway 1/700 cars is a pickup roughly

[last dirge]

could you even drive something like a F-150 Raptor on the streets?

or is it just too damn big?

[clever mortar]

Yeah

I know folks that do

[clear ferry]

I probably see 50-100 in a year

[clever mortar]

But... some of our roads are only wide enough for a normal European car

[last dirge]

laughs in cybertruck

[clever mortar]

One of those things would fall off

[valid halo]

Cybertruck

Cybertruck needs mirrors

[clever mortar]

Or cameras

[last dirge]

Cybertruck probably won't have mirrors

[valid halo]

Mr Musk is living a dangerous game driving his prototype vehicle around

[clever mortar]

I think more manufacturers should be pushing the envelope

[clear ferry]

The Audi etron comes optional without mirrors

[last dirge]

two different automakers have petitioned the NHTSA to remove the requirement for side mirrors

[clear ferry]

Only cameras

[valid halo]

Coming soon the 2021 Ford Ravager. No Windshield. No MIrrors. Just Pure STEEL.

[fallow galleon]

the new Honda EV has no mirror

[valid halo]

I heard you euros get fancy headlights that can adjust to not shine in motorists eyes

[clear ferry]

We have auto dim high beams and led lights that disable individual parts to not shine people or cars

If that is what you mean

[fallow galleon]

Audi laser light?

[valid halo]

Yeah that stuff

[last dirge]

in the US we have "why the hell are you looking into oncoming vehicle's headlights"

[valid halo]

you guys put LASERS in your cars?

[clear ferry]

Or opel matrix led

[last dirge]

might be a worldwide standard though

[valid halo]

Sometimes I want to cover part of my windshield in blackout tape

[clear ferry]

BMW and Audi have laser lights atleast

[valid halo]

I can't see anything when people shine their highs in my singular eye

[last dirge]

my car's got LED projectors

auto brights

high-beams, whatever

[clear ferry]

I know the option on the BMW is $8000 just for the headlights in laser

[valid halo]

Jaysus

Laser headlights

madness

[last dirge]

my car's also got photochromic mirrors

so that's nice 🙂

[clear ferry]

Yeah, that is handy

[fallow galleon]

I rented a corolla 2 months ago and that thing has its low beam pointing upward

[last dirge]

except when I've got the car tinted with 20% film and it's raining

and the backup camera's got a water droplet on it so it's not usable

[valid halo]

I hate driving at night in the rain.

I feel like I'm driving blind

[last dirge]

the traffic-aware cruise on the Toyotas is pretty damn nice

[valid halo]

I want to get smart cruise control

so I can think less while driving

and just be a vegetable

[last dirge]

Tesla

do it

do it

[valid halo]

I dunno

[clear ferry]

The night vision on Audi is pretty cool

[valid halo]

Tesla are expensive

[last dirge]

eh, not really

they can be

[valid halo]

okay

[last dirge]

where are you?

[valid halo]

for me they're expensive

[clear ferry]

Tesla, probably one of the worst cars I have driven, both the X and the s

[valid halo]

I'm in the US on the east coast

[clear ferry]

For that price range

[fallow galleon]

I don't really like Tesla but I might consider it for my father. He somehow backed to neighbor car at night....With a backup camera

[valid halo]

and currently do not have the savings or income to go buying a tesla 😛

[last dirge]

@valid halo they're like 40

[unreal orbit]

It's all relative

[last dirge]

similar to an entry level BMW or Audi in the same class

[valid halo]

🤣

[last dirge]

pretty much all cars are expensive now

[clear ferry]

You should see our $100k discount on Tesla ludicrous in Norway

[forest edge]

like a bunch of old foogy's shooting the crap in a bar

[last dirge]

even a Corolla is expensive

[fallow galleon]

I'm waiting for Toyota's EV

[last dirge]

they already had one

[valid halo]

Didn't they make Prius EV?

[last dirge]

it was a Tesla

in a RAV4 body

UBER rare

[fallow galleon]

With proper range and stuffs

[last dirge]

I've only ever seen one

[fallow galleon]

afaik other manufacturers still suck in range compared to tesla

[last dirge]

even Porsche

they got rated 110 miles less than they were claiming

[valid halo]

ooft

I can kind of understand the whole range anxiety thing now

[last dirge]

I got a new firmware update last night 🙂

[fallow galleon]

People buying Porsche probably don't care as much

[last dirge]

that's a neat thing to have in a car

[valid halo]

my current car can go 400 miles on a single fill up. Which is really convenient

Firmware updates?

Oh noooo

[last dirge]

@fallow galleon it costs MORE than the Tesla Roadster is supposed to and has worse pretty much everything

@valid halo I get 322 miles on a full charge

[valid halo]

👍

[last dirge]

I never really think about it

[fallow galleon]

It's better badge and nurburgring time.

[last dirge]

the Tesla with Plaid mode beat it by something like 10 seconds

which is huge

[fallow galleon]

not official though

[last dirge]

it'll kill it

and the roadster will destroy both of that

I REALLY want to see Sabine in the Cybertruck doing the ring 🙂

it'd be pretty hilarious to have a 3.5 ton vehicle beating a bunch of cars around the ring

[fallow galleon]

Maybe dangerous around corners because of weight and ground clearance

In the ring

[valid halo]

Oh right. Truck can do a flip if you corner too eagerly

dang gravitry

[last dirge]

have you not seen the attempted roll-over crash tests with the X?

[valid halo]

No.

[last dirge]

they couldn't get it to not right itself

the test rig would pitch it on its side, it'd slide, then stand back on its wheels

[valid halo]

Well I will have to continue this later. See y'all round

[last dirge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=fnxPjeaCAck&feature=emb_logo

[fallow galleon]

the cybertruck has higher ground clearance

[last dirge]

it's also wider

and heavier

[fallow galleon]

weight is not a good thing for corner...

[last dirge]

I think it'll be a damn fine contender

we'll see 🙂

[fallow galleon]

Cybertruck is great for what it is. No need to put it on the Ring imo

[last dirge]

I just wanna see Sabine hoon it around like she did with that cargo van

while passing people in M3s

[clear ferry]

Actual video of what happens when @scenic radish tried to befriend me as a joke

https://v.redd.it/wfdu9mbnak841

[clear ferry]

Love it https://youtu.be/v4xZUr0BEfE

[forest edge]

Did you make sweet love to @scenic radish @clear ferry ?

[clear ferry]

A lady never tells

[forest edge]

lol

[last dirge]

he did his own throat singing if you know what I mean

[forest edge]

@slim vortex you should block the sonoff pan-tilt from internet access in your router and then tell us how the camera behaves. rather the feed goes without a hitch, still able to connect via app while connected to local network ect

[tidal bronze]

Anyone got any thoughts/experience on mp rotator vs R-van?

[last dirge]

I think they're roughly equivalent

I replaced almost all of my nozzles with MP-rotators

there's 2 I didn't because there's no ultra-narrow strip option

[tidal bronze]

Did you increase the times since flow rate is low on mp

[last dirge]

I haven't tuned anything since

I'm working on getting my dirt right

I've got hard pan red clay and I've been hammering the yard with humic acid trying to get it broken up so the water doesn't just run off

[valid halo]

I'm home

My errand was a success

I am now +10% happier

[orchid rose]

I got my first RGB+CCT light bulb and that made me at least that 10% happier

[last dirge]

CCT?

constant current transformer?

[clever mortar]

correlated color temperature

Aka cool white to warm white

[last dirge]

@tidal bronze you have pets?

I vacuumed with my Dyson before I stared using the roborock and I'm pretty sure the roborock is still picking up hair and losing suction even after like 5 cycles

[forest edge]

cct lights are nice for outside lights

[clever mortar]

Nice for indoor too

[forest edge]

yea but rgb bulbs.. meh..

[orchid rose]

The RGB is just a bonus tbh

[forest edge]

take me funky town..

using rgb for alerts inside is rather nice though

[orchid rose]

For some reason the seller on aliexpress sold the rgb+cct cheaper than just CCT so why not 😄 And I do like myself some blue accent lighting every now and then...

[hearty depot]

Wich one?

[forest edge]

speaking of rgb, anyone have a clue the average lifespan of typical rgb strip you would stick around the house on the outside?

[orchid rose]

MiLight FUT014

[last dirge]

7K hours

[forest edge]

7K that's it?

[copper sequoia]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/03/tech/xiaomi-camera-intl-hnk/index.html

[hearty depot]

rf? - I could control that

[orchid rose]

The milights? It's their own standard. Requires either a hub or a diy solution which is what I would recommend

[hearty depot]

lol - Xiaomi didnt fixed that? i heard bout this a year ago

[orchid rose]

that's pretty bad...

[copper sequoia]

no idea why people still use google 😛

[hearty depot]

well.. its useful

[copper sequoia]

so is open doors..but people lock them for a reason.

[tidal bronze]

@last dirge yes 3 dogs

[steel urchin]

i hate that analogy.... so literally NO one can ever come in your home?

not friends, family, etc.. because fuck them, i'm locking the door

[hearty depot]

they sell and youse your data - but at least theyre so nice and make a remakable product around.
its just super convinient - allone google photos 🤯

[copper sequoia]

no, but if peopel are stupid enough to use google devices, they should not be shocked if that shit happens.

[forest edge]

well for one what you posted above wasn't google lol

[hearty depot]

(thats xiaomis fault)
google just banned them

[steel urchin]

yeah i think you're just finding a reason to grab a pitchfork

[midnight adder]

Its really hard to read a news article lmao

[copper sequoia]

right..so even worse 😄

[last dirge]

imagine thinking anybody who's got a device that lives in your pocket isn't doing the same thing

[steel urchin]

maybe one day when you understand technology, what it goes to make it, and how to enhance people's lives, you might have a valid opinion on the matter

[hearty depot]

worse would be google 🤣

[copper sequoia]

lol..understand tech..your funny 😄

[steel urchin]

*you're

[orchid rose]

🍿

[midnight adder]

Imagen thinking in 2020 you have privacy >.<

[steel urchin]

^

[forest edge]

@steel urchin to be fair they can do that and NOT sell our data at the same time and still profit

[copper sequoia]

privacy is possible...just drop the cloud shit.

[forest edge]

the whole tracking, logging, collecting thing is just extra $$

[hearty depot]

drop first discord...

🙈

[wet pilot]

good luck with that

[steel urchin]

you should just disconnect your internet and data package, because geoip is tracking you

gps too, smash your phone

[midnight adder]

No offence but if anyone thinks you have any privacy these days you are WRONG period, there is legit none, unless you dont own a device.

[steel urchin]

oh, and wear a mask when you go out because the cameras will track biometrics from over 500ft away

[copper sequoia]

so much ignorance

[forest edge]

mobile faraday cage lol

[hearty depot]

Do you guys see my status btw? - just asking me 🤣

[copper sequoia]

obviously know notthing about the topic at hand.

[peak breach]

considering who runs Discord… think I'd rather stick with Google. besides… Google know pretty much every moment of my day, at this point, anyhow.

[midnight adder]

Kjell is a 2015 Anon

[steel urchin]

lol more like 2005

[orchid rose]

Under, nope

[copper sequoia]

im not too worried about discord 😄

[midnight adder]

Imagen thinking your safe behind a VPN ayyyyy :D

[steel urchin]

if ANYONE is going to sell your data, it's a free service

[tidal bronze]

@copper sequoia what search engine do you use?

[copper sequoia]

not google

[tidal bronze]

oh ok.

[steel urchin]

askjeeves ftw baby

[copper sequoia]

ddg for the most

[hearty depot]

but it isnt so easy 🤷‍♂️
doing a lot for my privacy - and most of it is giving up convinience

[wet pilot]

there really isnt much you can do vs a motivated actor

[hearty depot]

you mean the states - yea

[forest edge]

you can go old school pen and paper

[wet pilot]

any gvmt

[forest edge]

stamps don't geolocate

[steel urchin]

in a round about way, they do 😛

[forest edge]

not really lol

[midnight adder]

I love how public wifis ping your device even though your not connected to the wifi lol

[hearty depot]

the accuracy is just a little lower

[steel urchin]

i mean, you send mail, they'll know exactly which unit it was picked up from

[midnight adder]

Jep

[forest edge]

they can track the drop box sure lol

[steel urchin]

down to whether they grabbed it with the left or the right hand

[hearty depot]

~~I actually can already get around that - enough open mail relays around ~~ ah phisical mails

[steel urchin]

cctv is prevalent

[forest edge]

imagine if i had to mail my jinja2 questions to @wet pilot lol

[midnight adder]

Anyone has any experience with Foscams? If so give me a hand in #cameras-archived if you want >.<

[wet pilot]

lol

[midnight adder]

I will login TOR network with triple VPN and send you an email with a burner emailadress

[hearty depot]

just take care that you have the right vpn - Is one of the point of failures

[copper sequoia]

if you're worried about your jinja questions, you're obviously way off..heh.

or are that that that bad ..

[wet pilot]

they only truly secure environment is a disconnected one

[steel urchin]

how is it? the only way 3 people can keep a secret is if 2 of them are dead

[wet pilot]

and even then, gotta keep up your Op Sec

everything on the internet is tracked full stop

you can obfuscate it somewhat but you're not going to stop Nation actors

[copper sequoia]

thats not the point really...

and raelly..they dont have to even, most people place spy devices in their houses..all over.

[wet pilot]

and the rule of thumb is, if the service you are using is free, you are the product

[copper sequoia]

no need to hide mics in lamps anymore..people buy them 😄

[wet pilot]

that is the trade

[hearty depot]

opsec is nice - finnaly have to do that at home too
had my fun with this one
https://github.com/Underknowledge/installation-scripts/blob/master/bash/cryptmount.sh

[copper sequoia]

right.and i choose not to use em. It's downright scary, imo. And really, they are viable self hosted solutions for almost everything.

[orchid rose]

So no phone then?

[copper sequoia]

phones are a bit harder, but running roms without most of the stuff...need a few things obviously to use android.

[orchid rose]

correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't it be pretty easy to see if something like GH or Alexa was spying on you

[hearty depot]

how?

[orchid rose]

by checking how much data it sends?

[forest edge]

if you harvest the packets entering/exiting your gateway you can see if something is doing something it shouldn't

[hearty depot]

It just sends out data to amazon - even dpi wont help me a lot there

[copper sequoia]

pi-hole

and youll see quickly all the crap 😄

[hearty depot]

yea ntp-g7g.amazon.com, spectrum.s3.amazonaws.com, d3p0ffa9t22.cloudfront.net, d3p8zr0ffa9t17.cloudfront.net
and from there?

[orchid rose]

Alexa would be pretty pointless if you stop it from communicating with Amazon, but it still can't just randomly listen to everything you say or it could quite easily be noticed

that's the reason I'm fairly comfortable having google home devices and don't think it's so weird to have them around

[hearty depot]

looking forward to this
https://www.instructables.com/id/Project-Alias/

[orchid rose]

I have no doubt though that someone could turn it on to listening mode at any point

[copper sequoia]

name your dog , google

should be some interesting voice logs

[steel urchin]

@hearty depot on a 50k foot level (or meters if you're in metric), how does that work?

like does it send noise to the speaker to block it from hearing you?

[hearty depot]

I'm metric whats that

[steel urchin]

like a high level overview 😛

[hearty depot]

It sends with 2 speakers a noise wich blocks the google/alexa mic
when you say the keyword the noise stops and then alexa/google is able to listen

[wet pilot]

FL380 View 😄

or you could use the hardware switch to kill the mic

[steel urchin]

ok that's what i figured

yeah i do that sometimes, esp when watching videos about alexa 😛

[hearty depot]

would be possible too - but to get a relay on that thing... messy

[valid halo]

I remember for a while people did think Alexa and Google were literally always listening

and people still think that sometimes even now

"I talked about dog food near my phone and now I see dog food ads"

[last dirge]

they are always listening

[valid halo]

Let me be more specifics. Always transmitting everything it hears back to Amazon/Google as data.

[last dirge]

there's a circuit that acts like an interrupt that's always listening for their invocation word/phrase

[orchid rose]

Mod, I think most people still think that now

probably not here, but in general

[hearty depot]

I trust this devices af far as I can throw them.. I trow like a little girl

but I have 2 of them 🤣

[copper sequoia]

heh..of course they are always listening..how the heck could they else trigger on anything

unless you get a masking device near them

[valid halo]

Gah I should have bene more specific from the start

y'all are 5smart17me

[restive pond]

Hi

Somebody would have an idea to improve that ?

[steel urchin]

#frontend-archived might

[restive pond]

😉

[hearty depot]

i like mine

[forest edge]

need more light cards, should do the trick hehe

[restive pond]

I will get some in next weeks

Behind the headof

But i would prefer to configure floorplan :-p

[hearty depot]

https://media.giphy.com/media/BHKpXZnLkYFYk/giphy.gif

[orchid rose]

3d floorplan. Most time I've wasted with HA 😄

[valid halo]

Oh god

I know right

I spent like 10 hours on making one

and then I just lost interest

🤷‍♂️

[forest edge]

lol

[valid halo]

I used magic floor plan to measure all my rooms and was using some PC program to make a 3D house model with textures

and then I'm like "Why the hell am I doing this? What is the point."

[orchid rose]

my apartment is small so the floorplan itself wasn't a huge issue, but the overlapping lights that all need their own render 😡

I'm close to 100 different pngs now...

and not nearly all combinations work

[valid halo]

dang

[orchid rose]

Never even bought the tablet that I was supposed to run it on, lol

[steel urchin]

i absolutely hate service technicians

asshat damaged my walls

[hearty depot]

probably your wallet too

[valid halo]

as yes

the fabled FORBIBDEN TOPIC Tablet

[hearty depot]

got a windows 7 tablet from chilliGreen laying around - no chance to run something diffrent on it

[clear ferry]

@orchid rose buy a house, so much better to floorplan

[steel urchin]

well it's under a month old and already having issues... pissed

[orchid rose]

Can't imagine how much work that would be, lol 😄

more work to set up the floorplan than to earn the money to buy the house

[valid halo]

Just create a floor plan and then build a new house to suit it

ez

[clear ferry]

I should do a three story floorplan one day

In 2022

[forest edge]

imagine all the pedo bear icons on that floorplan 🤢

[orchid rose]

also what I did atxbyea and do both day and night modes

[wet pilot]

or if you live where he does, just night modes

[orchid rose]

I live further north than that southerner

[scenic radish]

@clear ferry @forest edge obviously i'm way behind, but that (https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/662702608741433345) was hilarious lmao

[valid halo]

Heh

"FRIENDSHIP ATTEMPT DETECTED >:["

[clear ferry]

@orchid rose is the true Suomi arctic monkey

[orchid rose]

If only it was even arctic, but the weather is broken so it was +3 today, with 16m/s wind and sleet flying sideways

so kinda what I assume Norway is like most of the time

[forest edge]

lol

[scenic radish]

Norwat

how many times do we need to go over this

[forest edge]

I feel so landlocked and uneventful

we even had like the warmest christmas in the past 50 years

would it kill the planet to spit out just alittle snow on xmas once in awhile, i mean come on

[clear ferry]

Same here, it was snow and -10 for a week

Now it's been +5-8 for a week

https://youtu.be/wvRe_pt9XHo

Enjoy this ear worm

[orchid rose]

I'm just far enough north so it's stayed at like -2 or so basically since the start of November. Very unusual weather

[clear ferry]

Great X files episode it was used in too

[orchid rose]

YouTube autoplayed "My Prayer" right after that one and I was wondering where I had heard this before. Turns out it's Twin Peaks. Google knows me so well ❤️

[midnight adder]

last time i had a desktop was early 2009

[steel urchin]

did you just get a new rig?

[midnight adder]

no sorry was asking Ashton to move our conv from zigbee to here

i think he alluded to a desktop

[last dirge]

my parts come next week

[steel urchin]

w00t

i'm excited for you man

[last dirge]

but the OS thumb drive won't be here for another week after that

[steel urchin]

that thing is gonna fly

[midnight adder]

I'm a MacBook dude since 11 years - I've got hundreds of servers data centers and clouds no need to swing my wiener with my home equipment 🙂

[steel urchin]

exactly

i treat my home as a typical consumer in most circumstances

i just want it to work

... to an extent... i'm willing to tinker with software

[forest edge]

apple 🤢

[clear trench]

They're great if you're willing to pay.

I am.

[steel urchin]

but i'm over the days of building breadboard circuits and all that crap lol

[clear trench]

I run all 3 OS's

(4, if you count 2 variants of Linux)

I do most of my regular work on OSX, and I am pleased with it.

[midnight adder]

I've not paid for most of my apple stuff

[clear trench]

I have a mix of paid and work purchased.

[orchid rose]

willing to pay and not interested in tinkering from what I've heard

never really used apple stuff that much

[steel urchin]

the only things i liked about the macbooks forced upon me was the magnetic power plug (which is gone because usb-c) and i liked the rigidity of the solid body (although hated it because it became proprietary repair methods)

[clear trench]

Yeah, there are certainly trade-offs.

Their lack of reliability has become an issue over the years.

[steel urchin]

but as an OS, i'd rather eat glass than use

[clear trench]

But most of the issues with them are ones I don't face.

It's fine, IMHO

[steel urchin]

i literally spent the first 2 weeks hacking things away to get it to work the way i wanted

[orchid rose]

my experience with both Windows and Linux makes me constantly rage. I'd be surprised if OSX wouldn't

[midnight adder]

replacing the terminal font in os x is my number one customisation

[clear trench]

Run iTerm

[steel urchin]

the 2 that pissed me off the most was there was no way to tell the system to stay awake when the monitor was closed without an external monitor attached (so many meetings i went to and had to re-start a 6tb download), and the sound quality out of the box is garbage.. had to build my own eq with soundflower

[clear trench]

Ah, that's the difference here.

I never open my laptops.

External monitor and peripherals for life.

So most of the downsides of MBPs, largely the keyboard, never bother me.

[steel urchin]

well, as an executive i have to meet with people, can't drag my whole desk to a meeting 🤣

[clear trench]

As an executive, I don't bring a laptop to meetings.

[steel urchin]

then you don't work in a tech sector

[midnight adder]

You don't even have a job 🙂

[clear trench]

Nope.

[forest edge]

lol

[clear trench]

I do have a job, I need a new job

[steel urchin]

podz gets it

[clear trench]

I'm actually a former software engineer, now executive/manager.

[forest edge]

i'm the executive of my toliet and i bring my phone all the time

[clear trench]

I don't bring laptops to meetings.

If I'm presenting, which I try to avoid doing, I'll bring one.

[steel urchin]

i still play architect, but been director of hardware/software and CTO for nearly a decade now... i'm actually about to step back quite a bit and try to find a bs sr dev job

[clear trench]

But otherwise they're just distracting.

I found myself doing too much shit that's not the meeting on my laptop.

[steel urchin]

stress is a killer

[clear trench]

And this is why I'm trying to go back from CTO -> Director.

[midnight adder]

I do skype meetings while sitting on the toilet

[forest edge]

suprising many do

[steel urchin]

lol

[clear trench]

So for meetings I bring a legal pad and a pen.

[forest edge]

it's actually kind of unerving when you come to that relization

[steel urchin]

director hasn't been any different for me in terms of capacity and role requirements

[clear trench]

Different company sizes.

[steel urchin]

depends on the structure

i mean, i've been both in a 20-person company and a 300k person company

it was no different

[clear trench]

I went from 700 to 20.

This is very different.

I've been running 70hr weeks for a while. That's not a brag, it's a complaint.

Burnt. Out.

[steel urchin]

i feel ya... 20 years of 100+hr weeks has landed me in the hospital a few times

[clear trench]

I went from pure tech to services.

[steel urchin]

i'm actually on sabbatical right now because of it

[clear trench]

Don't. Do. Services.

Trust me.

Moonlighting here and there to keep sharp? That's great, do it occasionally.

[steel urchin]

glad i dont' have kids, i'd have been a shit father

[clear trench]

Consulting full time? Fuck that.

Lol, I've been a shit father to my cats

[steel urchin]

hahaha

[midnight adder]

I am now a foundational network service owner and I never work more than 37 hours a week

[clear trench]

Good for you.

Seriously.

[steel urchin]

that's pretty awesome dude

[midnight adder]

i am also hiring

[clear trench]

You're also in Finland.

[steel urchin]

not a bad place to be

[midnight adder]

yeah

[clear trench]

Indeed, but a bit of an issue for the Americans in the channel who might be interested.

Although, talk to me in 2021

[steel urchin]

i'd assume remote ok 😛

[clear trench]

I also discovered that I love working from home occasionally, and hate it full time.

Whoops

[midnight adder]

remote ok 1-2 days per week

[clear trench]

I feel the exact same about pair programming, so I should've seen that coming.

[steel urchin]

so my wife works with a guy that basically maintains a wordpress site, does some basic google analytics once a month, and is a complete moron and she has to either do things for him or ask me how to do things.... dude gets paid $80k/yr

i mean... that's damn good pay to be an idiot

[clear trench]

Competence is a much rarer trait than originally anticipated.

[midnight adder]

depends on where you live

[clear trench]

Yeah, I'd be in the poor house here.

[steel urchin]

ah well i've been debt free since i was 22, i could work at walmart and survive just fine

[clear trench]

Eh, I've paid down most of my debt.

The issue is that I live in LA

[steel urchin]

about to sell my house downtown, that'll free up ~$30k in property taxes annually

[clear trench]

Rent is .... not cheap

[forest edge]

walmart can't support HA hobby sorry to say

[steel urchin]

ATX here, i feel ya

average rent in my area is ~6k for my home size

[clear trench]

Detached home?

[steel urchin]

that doesn't matter in the area

it's about location

houses that need bulldozing are selling for over a million

[clear trench]

Yeah, that's LA prices.

[steel urchin]

essentially buying the lot

[clear trench]

The lot here is worth ~1.2mil

With a very strong gradient towards the ocean.

Rent ranges from 2k to 22k

[steel urchin]

didn't y'all have a giant earthquake the other day?

[clear trench]

Didn't notice.

Might explain why the cats are acting odd.

3.2, that's nothing.

[steel urchin]

i remember growing up all anyone talked about was how cali was going to float off into the ocean

[midnight adder]

i'm gonna go refill my wine glass and read the news to see who Trump killed today

[steel urchin]

lol jesus

[clear trench]

You've either got to be exactly on top of a 3.2 to notice here.

[last dirge]

@steel urchin break off to go hang with Hawaii

Alaska can come too

[wet pilot]

ZE END

[clear trench]

With where that was related to me, it'd take a 6 before I would personally notice.

[forest edge]

cali will evventually fall into the ocean

hell haven't you seen the water errioson along the coast?

[clear trench]

Lol, I started to google "will california" and it ended "ever be red"

[tidal bronze]

Last one was pretty low freq lost water in the pool but that's about it. If you live here it's normal. @steel urchin

[forest edge]

people's homes all falling off the cliff and crap lol

[clear trench]

Not in a long, long time.

[scenic radish]

florida can go too while we're at it

[clear trench]

Florida will just be eaten by the water.

[steel urchin]

Ah.. i'm a Texan... if it rains here we freak out

[clear trench]

You can't levy Florida.

It's impossible.

[wet pilot]

https://giphy.com/gifs/looney-tunes-florida-bugs-bunny-zNyBPu5hEFpu

[clear trench]

That state is over, they just haven't realized it yet.

When the ocean level rises it just comes up through the ground.

[scenic radish]

F L O R I D A M A N

[steel urchin]

take louisiana with you, florida

[forest edge]

florida won't sink for as long as there are retires there to bucket out the water

[clear trench]

California will suffer some flooding, but up closer to SF

[scenic radish]

nah they'll just blame the millennials as they sink

[clear trench]

I'm 0.25mi from the ocean and 96ft above it.

There is a very strong gradient in my area.

[scenic radish]

🆗 💥 🇪 🇷

[steel urchin]

yeesh... we had flooding that high in houston a few years back

[clear trench]

The PCH will flood, but that was a particularly dumb place to put a big highway.

You can fix that.

Just pass flood abatement rules.

Leave some marshland around.

The flooding was very uneven by county, because some counties had stronger flood abatement regulations.

[steel urchin]

i know nothing about city planning... just that Austin has NONE

[clear trench]

Most cities don't

That's the norm.

But this is more of a building regulation than a city planning.

"If you pave over X square feet of ground, you must abate Y gallons of water"

It's why a lot of business parks have huge holding ponds.

[steel urchin]

yeah we have that now, but it's too late

[clear trench]

Well, next time.

It basically can't flood where I live.

The gradient down to the ocean makes any sort of flash flooding impossible.

And we're too far above the ocean for any sea rise to affect us directly.

(Aside from the PCH)

[steel urchin]

i've been saying musk/gates should throw their money at an optimized build to start with all their tinkering... enforced automated transportation, full delivery for everything, etc etc.... pave the way for the future rather than trying to retrofit everything

[clear trench]

But if we just abandon that and build a train, I would be very happy.

Automated cars are dumb.

[steel urchin]

doens't have to be cars

can be a rail system

they're talking about installing a gondola system here that goes like 40 miles... that scares the bajesus out of me

[clear trench]

Sure, but the humans are a tiny percentage of the cost of a rail system.

You could automate it, but why?

The big cost is the rails.

[steel urchin]

doesn't have to be physical rails, could be image-based tracking

[clear trench]

Rails are the appropriate answer.

[midnight adder]

Dr. Phil is a wierdo? Who knew? https://www.latimes.com/business/real-estate/story/2020-01-02/guns-bears-and-bizarre-designs-dr-phils-strange-beverly-hills-home-comes-to-market

[clear trench]

Largely because you can't put cars on them.

[steel urchin]

you're thinking of pure retrofit situations 😉 automated cars become REALLY smart when there's not any precedence on how traffic systems work

[last dirge]

laughs in Atlanta

[clear trench]

Automated cars are dumb because they're cars.

Cars are a massively inefficient way to move humans and cargo.

That require an absurd expenditure by the state to provide the roads to run on.

[steel urchin]

i think the most disturbing part of that pic is the weird figures lol

[last dirge]

but muh fossil fuels

[clear trench]

I dunno, the wall of guns where he eats is odd.

In Beverly Hills mind you.

Most of those guns should be illegal here.

[last dirge]

weirdo minifigs are really really odd

[forest edge]

he's rich on tv and pretends to help people.. you expected his home to be "normal"?

[clear trench]

No, but I expected a more normal form of abnormality.

[steel urchin]

he's rich on tv

was probably enough to say lol

[midnight adder]

his son lives there

[clear trench]

I expect his son to be all kinds of fucked up.

[steel urchin]

ah so an entitled rich kid

even worse

[clear trench]

Largely because the do-nothing children of rich people are fucked up, and it's Dr. Phil we're talking about here.

He's basically an anti-therapist.

I'm sure therapists need therapy for all the dumb shit they hear from patients from his shows.

[scenic radish]

probably suffers from affluenza

[clear trench]

As always though, I don't really blame him. I would probably do dumb things on TV if it was that lucrative.

I blame all the people who enable and reinforce this behavior by watching him.

[steel urchin]

lol why does my brain always think "suffers from the flu?"

[clear trench]

It's well known that being rich actually lowers your empathy.

[scenic radish]

because "affluenza" is a made-up word from "influenza"

[steel urchin]

oh i didn't know that

[clear trench]

I think made-up is too perjorative.

It's a portmanteau, technically.

[steel urchin]

It is a portmanteau of affluence and influenza

humans are clever creatures

[clear trench]

And all words are made up.

[scenic radish]

you're a portmanteau

[steel urchin]

no u

[clear trench]

Some were just made up a long long time ago.

[scenic radish]

https://tenor.com/view/rap-rap-battle-gif-5518154

[midnight adder]

I'm a Cat Man Do

[clear trench]

My name is a portmanteau of Ash and Town

In old English.

So, yeah, you're right.

[forest edge]

name calling... we need a mod up in here to control this violence

[steel urchin]

why is a cookie not called a bakie?

[clear trench]

Is bake a more recent word than cook?

[scenic radish]

or an ovenie?

[steel urchin]

lol maybe

[clear trench]

Ovens postdate baking by a long, long time.

The oven as you know it is maybe 200 years old.

[scenic radish]

or a fireie?

[clear trench]

Go back further and an oven is actually a pot.

[steel urchin]

QUIT PISSING ON OUR PARADE ASHTON

[clear trench]

Pedantry is my higher calling.

[steel urchin]

hahaha

[scenic radish]

you don't even have an actual avatar

😤

[steel urchin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpbdGnJbneE

[tidal bronze]

@steel urchin https://www.fortunebuilders.com/top-10-u-s-cities-with-the-highest-rents/ 🤔

[clear trench]

There you go.

[scenic radish]

lmao

well played

[tidal bronze]

Maybe they didn't survey TX

[forest edge]

it's cause there isn't multiple NY's lol

[clear trench]

It's tricky to define rent within a city.

I mean, what exactly do you mean by "LA"?

Because if you mean the city of Los Angeles, that does not include Beverly Hills.

[tidal bronze]

BH is not accounted for.

[tidal bronze]

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB18 the new bill

[scenic radish]

good lord

[clear trench]

If you mean LA county, that stretches way out into the valley with very very cheap rent.

[steel urchin]

about 50ft across the street from my house

[clear trench]

Yeah, that looks familiar.

I can buy a condo here for $850k and 971 sq ft.

[scenic radish]

wtf

[steel urchin]

so take those lists with a grain of salt

oh that apartment is 4.5 million if you want to buy it

[clear trench]

You need to factor in CA property taxes, which highly favor long term owners.

[scenic radish]

my 1100 sq ft condo was literally 10% of that cost lol

[steel urchin]

for the ~700sqft

[clear trench]

CA property taxes are limited to grow like 1% a year, and the property tax transfers from parent to child or grandchild.

Which is a bit feudal, IMHO.

[forest edge]

@scenic radish it didn't come standard with curtian walls?

[steel urchin]

i'm tired of taxes... i pay $30k annually on a house that was bought in cash... i'm tucking my tail and moving out some lol

[midnight adder]

here in Helsinki we average about 5500 eur per square meter for purchase price

[clear trench]

So it's often much cheaper for older owners to stay rather than downsize, choking out the fluidity of the market.

Isn't TX a low income tax state?

[clear ferry]

I paid $210k for my 2500sqft house

[tidal bronze]

@steel urchin there will always be pockets in every city that's super expensive. Does not mean the city is most expensive. Like BH, hidden hills etc. We don't talk about LA using hidden hills values 😉

[clear trench]

That's the issue with low income taxes; in theory they sound great, but chances are that the state needs to still find its revenue somewhere.

[forest edge]

I'll stick where I live, own 4 homes and pay less than 7K a year in taxes lol

[steel urchin]

it's going to vary by county

[clear trench]

Sure.

But it's going to be higher in states without income tax if you adjust for density, because the state will have less revenue to transfer downwards to local municipalities.

[steel urchin]

Austin isn't very large honestly

just expensive

something like 160ppl/day moving in

[clear trench]

Checking what property tax would cost me here

[scenic radish]

i can't even imagine how expensive this is gonna be lmao: https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/01/03/ge-kitchen-hub-display-adds-a-third-camera-becomes-a-microwave/

[tidal bronze]

Since you mentioned many times that Austin was super expensive just did some googling probably that pocket was not surveyed recently.

[forest edge]

imagine if texas actually separated from the US lol

[midnight adder]

woohoo

[clear trench]

So a $800k condo in LA would cost about $10k a year in property taxes.

So that's nice.

[forest edge]

actually the front of a microwave being a screen is a rather good idea

[steel urchin]

i told my wife i was going to sell everything and we'd just become beach bums

[clear trench]

The chance of that happening from a cultural perspective is becoming less and less each day as Texas becomes more urban and purple.

[steel urchin]

then she reminded me that i hate sand

[clear trench]

Ski bum?

[scenic radish]

@forest edge at first i laughed thinking it's ridiculous but it is actually a decent idea

[clear ferry]

I pay $600 in taxes and all renovation and water per year

[scenic radish]

hopefully it's designed to withstand high heat

[steel urchin]

i'm a texan, laughs in 100F weather

i do want to move away in ~5ish years... just no clue where to go

[scenic radish]

microwave above the stove i mean

[forest edge]

yea alot of people have/want some kind of screen in the kitchen for wwatching cooking shows ect and slapping it on the microwave saves space lol

[clear trench]

CO is nice.

[steel urchin]

yeah but not much cheaper really

[clear trench]

No, not really.

[steel urchin]

and the housing is really old and janky from what i've seen

[clear trench]

Depends.

CO has lax zoning laws, when they need to build they build fast

[steel urchin]

i've been looking at places where legalization has passed

vegas is disgusting

[clear trench]

I mean, non-coastal CA isn't expensive.

[steel urchin]

i've heard that actually

[clear trench]

Bakersfield or similar.

Depends on your preferred activities of choice too.

[tidal bronze]

@scenic radish that microwave looks interesting

[scenic radish]

yeah, cool idea for sure

[clear trench]

I hike and fly fish, so being a days drive away from the mountains is nice.

[steel urchin]

i need to find a good way to disconnect like that

[clear trench]

CA is nice in that most outdoor activities are available.

[steel urchin]

i tried auto mechanic work, wood working, and both lead me right back to the computer for research

[clear trench]

You could, if you so desired, ski and surf on the same day where I live.

[tidal bronze]

Finding the time is the issue @clear trench 🙂

[clear trench]

Fly fishing is nice.

Yeah, trust me. I know.

Fly tying is also really nice.

Low research, medititative, results in a physical output that is pleasing.

And you can catch fish with them.

[forest edge]

that microwave is gonna be like 4k lol

[clear trench]

Fuck that.

I mean, for privacy reasons I was never gonna buy it.

But that's insane.

If fishing isn't your thing, you could always do chainmaille.

[quartz ether]

Just wait for the kids to put a fork in it.....

[scenic radish]

@forest edge not even surprised

[clear trench]

Rumiges around for photos

[forest edge]

after it's year warranty the screen craps out lol

[clear trench]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiderchain.com%2Freference%2Ffamily-portraits%2Finch-sizes%2F&psig=AOvVaw1N9aZhLNkOtIYw9OC9kffv&ust=1578174547852000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCNDAzPK06OYCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD

Not my work, but I made a bracelet for my wife that looks like second from left.

[quartz ether]

To be above an oven it needs to be an extract fan... so will get clogged with grease and shit and need cleaning. Trying to cram that a microwave and a MASSIVE touch display into a box... then have it all above heat. Seems like the designer hasn't really thought it out

[scenic radish]

it could be vented

for the price it better not be a recirc one

but yeah, not as good as a dedicated range hood

[steel urchin]

our microwave has a metal shelf in it... i took it out immediately because... well damn just because my brain doesn't allow it

[scenic radish]

mine has one of those, it's awesome

[steel urchin]

the manual said " make sure it's not touching the sides or it will cause explosion"

[clear trench]

Mine has one too, neverneeded it.

[scenic radish]

it rests on plastic hooks

i use it often

[clear trench]

Blocked my taller coffee cups

[steel urchin]

we don't use the microwave much... very much a stovetop and oven family

[clear trench]

Shifted from eating out & cooking to a meal kit.

Lots of microwaving.

[scenic radish]

my microwave is an italian ice softener

well, and food reheater

[steel urchin]

lol

i have a friend that microwaves his ice cream

i've never done it, but actually thinking about it the best time i like ice cream is shortly after we get home from the store with it, so it's a little softer

[forest edge]

lol icesoup

[scenic radish]

i microwave italian ice for 10 seconds

[clear trench]

Someone needs to adjust their freezer.

[scenic radish]

softens it just slightly

[clear trench]

Italian ice is one thing, it's higher in water content.

But if your ice cream is too hard, your freezer is too low.

[forest edge]

too soft and you need a new freezer

[clear trench]

Yup.

That's actually the standard metric, because so many people have ice cream and it goes soft before ice melts.

[midnight adder]

I have reached the height of HA success: I can sit in my bedroom and type into my web browser "I've had it with these motha fucken snakes on this motha fucken plane" and it will be spoken by a sexy accented british women over my sonos speakers in the library at high volume thus scaring the shit out of my wife who is sitting in the library remote working

and possibly in a skype meeting with customers

[forest edge]

height would be to do it hands free

[steel urchin]

oh man, does anyone remember the nuance TTS engine??? They had a valley girl voice that sounded 👌

i used to use that for EVERYTHING

[scenic radish]

🤨

[forest edge]

I still can't say i've heard an ai voice that was worth a crap

[midnight adder]

the finnish ones are actually far better than the english ones

[forest edge]

i take that back, in movies i hear ai voices that are worth a crap lol

[scenic radish]

it's because those are finished and the english ones aren't

https://tenor.com/view/srubs-dr-cox-smile-laugh-funny-gif-11495003

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/rap-rap-battle-gif-5518154

[midnight adder]

back to drinking wine and reading about assassinations

[edgy path]

Sounds like a good evening 😛

Are you female, by any chance? xD So far i've heard only of woman LOVING that shit

[clear trench]

Assassinations?

I love reading about violent history.

[clear ferry]

Female assassination facianadios

[wet pilot]

this been posted yet? https://www.engadget.com/2020/01/03/kohler-showerhead-smart-speaker/

[clear trench]

Like the fact that Franz Ferdinand was taken out by a single very low caliber bullet.

.32ACP

In the modern era they might've been able to patch him up

[wet pilot]

the human body is very squishy in some very vulnerable areas

[clear trench]

FMJ, old powder.

[clear ferry]

@wet pilot wtf, only for Americans though, 1% of showers in Norway use that kind of shower head 😂

[wet pilot]

😛

[clear trench]

Most deaths from those types of wounds are from bleeding out of the primary wound cavity, which gives emergency responders a good chance at stabilization before death occurs.

[forest edge]

low voltage or not I would NOT install anything in my shower that requires a plug lol

batteries sure but nothing with a plug

[clear trench]

There's actually relatively few places on the human body where the primary wound cavity is inherently fatal.

Heart and head, mostly.

(Lungs, sometimes)

[clear ferry]

And my axe!

[wet pilot]

for large objects at least

bullets defeat our natural defenses which are mostly aimed at blunt force

[clear trench]

Yeah, without medical attention you're in serious trouble.

But we've gotten really good at treating low velocity bullet wounds.

[midnight adder]

No, I am definitely not female

[forest edge]

well not for the right price anyways.. what i always say..

[clear trench]

Oh, apparently his jacket slowed down medical attention.

A modern EMT could've gotten it off with shears.

[scenic radish]

I find it funny that I indirectly chose your avatar

[midnight adder]

thinking of getting an external disk for the rpi 4 - any recommendations?

[hearty depot]

not all usb-sata adapters are compatible

[midnight adder]

i was thinking usb3 <--> m.2 ssd

[hearty depot]

do whatever pleases you
but why m2 - usb3 bottlenecks anyway

[midnight adder]

goal was tiny, lightweight and fast

[hearty depot]

state this first 🤣
I would love to use some really small usb thumb drives - but I bet they ll die fast

[forest edge]

they are imp[roving usb sticks and sdcards to handle how we abuse them

your gonna be paying for that improvvement, but it is available lol

[hearty depot]

yea I think they called A2 cards

[forest edge]

yup

[hearty depot]

not to expensive - only sad thing is that i bourght a army of micro sd cards already

[steel urchin]

Class 2 I think is for lots of rewrites? I might be wrong

I still have some compact flash laying around I should dispose of

[clear ferry]

SD cards 🤢

@steel urchin classes is only minimum speed guarantees

[fleet urchin]

I have been living below sea level all my life ... never knew anything else ... works great you 'yanks' are pussy's 😜

[ocean mirage]

Uhh k