the-water-cooler

[forest edge]

his router was from McDonalds

[brave panther]

Lmao

[scenic radish]

My router has done stupid shit before

[brave panther]

Unhappy meal

[scenic radish]

Like flipping its shit when I tried assigning a previous DHCP reservation to a different device

After changing the previous device's IP

[raven ember]

That sounds like a bad domestic situation

[brave panther]

Ick. I built a pfSense box for $400, would NEVER go back to a consumer router.

[scenic radish]

Google Wifi

So yeah.

Got it before I got into home automation

[raven ember]

All things considered, I'm still a fairly big proponent of a good Ubiquiti setup

[scenic radish]

I was able to clear the ARP table through some backwards-ass way which fixed it

[brave panther]

Yeah I use 2 UniFi AP AC Pro for WiFi - it's simply amazing.

[raven ember]

But apparently Ubiquiti is the root cause of all my MQTT issues...

[brave panther]

I've got quite an extensive home network setup 😛

[forest edge]

I'm surrounded by linksys cause i got them cheap lol

[scenic radish]

Maybe I really should get an edgerouter x...

[forest edge]

you all havve richer taste lol

[brave panther]

Linksys in bridge mode are fine too, they just act as dumb APs

WAN port to switch on the right VLAN, acts the same as a UniFi (just not as fancy) 🙂

[forest edge]

mos of mine are either running ddwrt or tamato

[raven ember]

Nothing that runs ddwrt or tomato can NAT fast enough for me

[forest edge]

like i said, cheap lol

[tulip sage]

Was actually just looking at ddwrt router setups yesterday

😂 good info

[forest edge]

pretty flexible

I bought two cheap 1200's off ebay for 15 bucks and flashed them both with ddwrt and now they ap for a good portion of a house + barn and been doing it without issue for 3 years lol

[raven ember]

I haven't seen a ddwrt or tomato router yet that does much more than 300Mbit

[forest edge]

?

my ea6400 is ac

[tulip sage]

I live in a small flat at monent so APs not necessary but more for the VPN side of it.

[forest edge]

oh yea you can do that, run openvpn directly off the router lol

[steel urchin]

@raven ember my AC1700 gets me my max speed, ~980mbit

you need to look into CTF

without it, you won't get NAT'd gigabit speeds

[forest edge]

I turn that off

[steel urchin]

locally you will, but not NAT

[brave panther]

that's what my pfSense does for my primary location but that sounds interesting for access to parents' network remotely. I'm using a Pi for that too, but VPN on the router itself might be a better solution.

[valid halo]

Ah Router Talk.

I remember looking into trying to replace my Verizon FIOS ISP Router

[wet pilot]

you can ask them to enable the ethernet port on their ONT and they usually will

[steel urchin]

ATT politely told me to "eff off" when i asked

[valid halo]

Yeah it involved enabling that and a 120 dollar adaptor for the cable

and then the router.

[wet pilot]

oh, you have their tv service. that does make it harder

[valid halo]

Yeah...The Mom Approval Factor of No TV would um...Negative Numbers.

[wet pilot]

i only used internet from them

[raven ember]

Ouch. My local bell ran fiber into house (fttn) and terminated it at an ethernet jack in my basement. The installer even mounted it all on my networking panel.

[steel urchin]

if they offered legit bridging it wouldn't be an issue

[valid halo]

so I've felt a bit stuck with my current Router/Modem/Switch thingamabob

[forest edge]

router woes

[steel urchin]

my biggest issue with CTF is you don't get NAT loopback

but, i can't go down to ~300mbit when i'm paying for gigabit

plus... it's so awesome to get those speeds

[forest edge]

all it does is supposedly check the "important" bits of a packet while ignoring the rest of it to free up router headroom. at least that's how i understood it

[steel urchin]

yeah basically

it's a light version of NAT

which alleviates a ton of overhead

[forest edge]

but can cause issues too

like i think it was causing me presence detection issues lol

[steel urchin]

i tried to do some dnsmasq stuff, but it's mucking things up for me as well

trying to forward mydomain.com to my internal ip fixes dns lookups, but nginx sees the request coming FROM the router, so the response never makes it back to the client

[brave panther]

Need NAT hairpinning

[steel urchin]

scroll up 😛

[brave panther]

Yah 🙂

I had to do that myself - it's a tradeoff.

[valid halo]

I think I have the Nat loopback

Internet Stuff is my worst tech subject

[steel urchin]

NAT loopback is hairpinning

[brave panther]

I traded off for a split DNS

internal requests resolve to the internal IP addresses; externally, things are just port forwarded and everything is happy

[steel urchin]

yeah... i hate compromising 🤣

ask my wife 😂

[brave panther]

HA

[valid halo]

Compromise?

That's called Losing with Extra Steps

[steel urchin]

yeah i made that word up

[forest edge]

I think the only concern i ever seen over ctf was the security aspect but have yet to see a single inatnce of it being exploited

so other than the issues it causes with like certian things needing the router to read the whole packet, it's user pref of to use it or not, it does help alot with it on if you need the full throughput

I'm stuck with non gigabit speeds through my isp so it impacts me in no way speed wise lol

[valid halo]

Speaking of Gigabit

who's ready for 5G

[forest edge]

and the tumors it brings.. not me!

[valid halo]

Do not deny the Green Glow of Progress

Up...Hol up. My 5G stopped working because I'm standing near a tree.

[forest edge]

I feel bad for thos eoffice workers who have that antenna piped in and the one guy who has to sit within firect line of site of the repeater lol

*direct

[valid halo]

I've heard that Gigabit 5G is finicky as a child who dark coffee strapped into a carseat

[forest edge]

if bob grows up nevver having children of his own, you know why...

[brave panther]

"But radio doesn't cause cancer", scientists say.

[valid halo]

Wrong part of the street? 4G
Window? 4G
In a building? 4G

[scenic radish]

Existing? 4G

[steel urchin]

QPSK/QAM is NOT good for throughput or stability.. i'm surprised we're still on it

[forest edge]

my rgbcw bulbs came with a free thing for an extra bulb and this one extra bulb keeps dropping from my wifi even when the light is not in use (on but off) and it's driving me nuts

[valid halo]

Aw man. I'm existing

[forest edge]

guess i got what i paid for

[valid halo]

I've got a wifi bulb or two

[steel urchin]

have you checked the signal strength in that spot? good ol wifi anal-izer

[brave panther]

I've just got a four-pack of LIFX bulbs at the moment. They work fine.

anal-izer
Hah.

[forest edge]

these are amazon finest whatsthenameagain

[steel urchin]

😛

[brave panther]

Amazon Basics ? Yeaaa.... China's Best.

[steel urchin]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer good lil app... helped me find a rogue AP once in the office

[brave panther]

Ahh. I like Net Analyzer - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.techet.netanalyzerlite.an&hl=en_US .

[valid halo]

Can I ask y'all a dumb question

[steel urchin]

we I prefer it

[scenic radish]

If only Amazon's shit could be tuya-converted

[valid halo]

Yay.

[forest edge]

I been using wifi analyzer since it came out on my galaxy s2 lol

[steel urchin]

um, sir.. i had it on my G1

first android device

[valid halo]

If I get like 20 Wifi Bubs. Can I like Congest or overload my Wee-Fee from them talking to the router all the time.

[clever mortar]

Yes, but the odds are low

[scenic radish]

It certainly isn't ideal

[hidden cradle]

Anyone know of an alarm clock that can be remotely turned off?

[steel urchin]

20 might be ok, 50 might do it

[brave panther]

Yes you absolutely can but that only happens at larger amounts of devices

right.

[woeful roost]

Can I just say Home Assistant's climate/generic_thermostat integration is freaking awesome

[valid halo]

Thanks y'all

[scenic radish]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[valid halo]

I guess I'm gonna have to bite the Z-wave Bullet

[woeful roost]

Just got a zigbee temperature sensor and set it up

[valid halo]

FORBIDDEN TOPIC

[brave panther]

LOL yes

[steel urchin]

welcome to the club!

[scenic radish]

https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/660966333512548404

[forest edge]

@hidden cradle smart plug can remotely turn it off lol

[steel urchin]

i spent $500 on zwave switches lol

[valid halo]

My only Z-wave Device is a door sensor at the moment

[brave panther]

people are so dramatic at OMG You use the WiFis? That's bad!!!

[hidden cradle]

What about the battery and setting the time again?

[scenic radish]

No need

[forest edge]

smart plug isn't that smart, sdorry

[scenic radish]

Make your own time

[valid halo]

It gets worse Noble

I use a Tuya device that talks to the cloud 😱

[brave panther]

I frequent /r/homeautomation on Reddit and it annoys the heck out of me

I flash all my Tuya stuff

[hidden cradle]

I was looking at Lenovo smart clock but wow it's expensive

[forest edge]

I don't think that can be remotely controled either

[woeful roost]

I bought some tuya plugs, then bought some tasmota compatible ones and returned the tuya ones

[valid halo]

I was looking at a google home hub today

[woeful roost]

No regrets

[valid halo]

but I was like "That'd be dumb to lock myself into Google's Ecosystem

I should get a cheap android tablet and Home Assistant It

[clever mortar]

Home Hub is neat

[forest edge]

that lenovo smart clock was 40 bucks on black friday

[brave panther]

Tuya, for the most part, should all be using esp8266 esp8265 esp32 etc. the things i've seen, so far, have all been able to be flashed with pins or OTA out of the box.

[hidden cradle]

I sometimes wake up before alarm, get to work and go oh... Did I shut the alarm off?

[woeful roost]

I run Google Assistant SDK on the same Pi that I run Home Assistant and Phoscon on

[valid halo]

Neat.

[woeful roost]

It works extremely well with home assistant, not gonna lie

It's the only cloud-based thing I use

[valid halo]

One of these days I need to make a Home Automation tinkering plan

[scenic radish]

Fucking reeeeeeeeeeeeee

[steel urchin]

i'm literally crippled by HA right now

[valid halo]

Aw shi-

[forest edge]

uh oh

crippled how

[valid halo]

gets sent to the Shadow Realm

[brave panther]

Home Automation is like the adult version of Lego. How can I take all this stuff apart, and put it back together in different ways?

[steel urchin]

there's too many options, and the docs don't really give much guidance unless you want to install on RPi

[hidden cradle]

Usually end up driving back to apartment to find out I did in fact shut it off ☹️

[steel urchin]

like... i'm trying to decide if i want to go all in on node-red or native automations

[valid halo]

Sometimes I feel like I'm looking at a mall directory with 10,000 stores on it

[scenic radish]

Some regular clocks have a timeout for the alarm

[steel urchin]

my brain wants node-red, my heart wants native

[woeful roost]

I still need to look into node red

[scenic radish]

Mine does

[valid halo]

and I'm like "Oh lawd I have no idea what I'm doing or even want to do"

[woeful roost]

So far it's all native for me

[forest edge]

native has the talk to automate thingie now, you can be super lazy

HA automate my toliet seat

[valid halo]

Lazy you say?

FORBIDDEN TOPIC

[scenic radish]

https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/660966333512548404

[brave panther]

automate my toilet seat
I mean you could. With the right stepper motor and gear box, I'd totally see someone doing that.

[scenic radish]

IMO talk about home assistant in this channel should be ok as long as it's not asking for support

[valid halo]

"Hey Autovoice Ask Alexa to Flush my toilet"

[steel urchin]

thank you for your approval

[woeful roost]

Yeah there's no other non-support general home asisstant channel in here that I can see

[forest edge]

oh we're asking for support.. head shrink type support

[brave panther]

"Alexa, start the shower"
"Okay!"
"And set the water temperature to 95 degrees"
"Okay!"

[valid halo]

Oh man do I need a head shrink

[woeful roost]

I want to be able to say "hey google, draw a bath"

[steel urchin]

lol someone posted that Moen U yesterday, i hadn't rolled my eyes so hard in a long time

but hey.... you do you, boo

[valid halo]

My instruction manual got lost in the mail

[steel urchin]

download the pdf

<www.mybrainisborked.com/manual.pdf>

btw my deal bot told me 10TB WD shucc drives are on sale on amazon

[forest edge]

hmm time for belated lunch then on to work, be back later gents

[steel urchin]

good day, sir 🎩

[scenic radish]

@brave panther 95 degrees? Weak

Barely warm

Almost cool

Do better

[brave panther]

"Alexa, turn up the heat."
"I'm having trouble communicating."
house explodes

[valid halo]

"Google Home can you read my texts?"
"I'm sorry I can't read Texts?"
-computerintrash.gfy-

What's the point of a robot slave when it can't listen right >_<

[tidal bronze]

Last 2 tuya converts for 2019 😀 @quaint osprey works with same template as the 20w one

[brave panther]

Awesome.

Those are stupid bright. I've seen his videos. 😄

[valid halo]

Nice.

[quaint osprey]

@tidal bronze good deal!

[brave panther]

digiblur I made a firmware you might be interested if you end up accidentally flashing your devices to a firmware and wanting to revert

I use your digiDIM and accidentally flashed Tasmota 7.2 and couldn't go back

Had to make a bin that was version 255.255.255.255 and minimum version 0.0.0.0

[raven ember]

@tidal bronze Which models are those, if you excuse my ignorance

[tidal bronze]

15W no external antenna. So glad didn't go with 20w. These are so BRIGHT! 2 x 20W would've been too much for the fountain 🙂

[raven ember]

Very nice. I'm just starting to play the Tuya Convert game myself

[valid halo]

I need to buy a new Pi Zero for it

I lost my old onw between the couch cushions

[hidden cradle]

The echo dot with clock is out of stock everywhere hmmmm

[brave panther]

@tidal bronze dimmable?

[tidal bronze]

Yep

[brave panther]

Amazing.

Throw a couple of them on a servo controlled platform and have yourself some motion activated, directional flood lights 😄

[tidal bronze]

2 days did close to 26 tuya converts.

[brave panther]

Set up pre-recordings like "Halt who goes there?"

Make the mail man poop himself

[tidal bronze]

@quaint osprey thank you for all the tips, guides and links. Appreciate it very much

[raven ember]

I've just been doing Merkury CT BR30's and LOHAS CT A19's

[tidal bronze]

From everything I converted zemismart takes the cake

Downlights.

[valid halo]

Are those out door tuya lights?

[tidal bronze]

yes

[valid halo]

My mom has been wanting to light the house up like fort knox. She may be interested.

[raven ember]

yeah, Kind of pricy for my budget. The Merkury BR30's plug into my existing ceiling cans at about 1/3 that price

Compared to the zemismart downlights

[tidal bronze]

I was planning to take the BR30 route but this diffuser is next level

[valid halo]

What was the model/brand name of those lights?

[tidal bronze]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VP9ZWYZ/

[raven ember]

So... broader light angle?

[valid halo]

Hmmmm

I'll talk to her aboot it

[tidal bronze]

Yes. Footprint is broad so can color mix front and back down lights

[valid halo]

Thank you quad

[quaint osprey]

Tuya Convert is pretty addictive!

@brave panther should be updating digiDIM to 8.x soon.

[woeful roost]

I should get some more plugs and flash them before all the ESP plugs disappear from amazon

My wife's gonna kill me

[valid halo]

She can't kill you if you build a defense Robot

"Alexa, DEFEND ME!"

[brave panther]

@quaint osprey Awesome. I just did that and built and used the minimal to intermediately flash it to something so i could re-flash digiDIM.

[scenic radish]

@quaint osprey it really is addictive. Still amazes me how vtrust figured it out lol

[brave panther]

Yeah

[raven ember]

Still... near $40/ea is pretty ouch

[woeful roost]

I want a robot vacuum so bad but money

[valid halo]

40 bucks each

Ooft

ouch

I am the poor. So that feels expensive

[brave panther]

I just got a Roborock S5 for $360 ($140 off) right before Christmas

[quaint osprey]

I try to keep a list of things that flash fine with Tuya Convert and such on my Amazon page but not sure of I can share that stuff here.

[raven ember]

I have 32 cans in the house

[woeful roost]

That's the one I was looking at

[tidal bronze]

Funny, using a tuya converted switch to run the on-off-on-off-on as well 🙂

[woeful roost]

Everyone on Home Assistant subreddit says buy Roborock S5

[valid halo]

1,280 dollarys

[brave panther]

It integrates well with HA

and floor plan

[woeful roost]

How does the path mapping stuff work?

Does it explore and then build a visual floor plan?

[scenic radish]

@quaint osprey maybe ask the mods first. Self-promotion is against the rules here and it might fall under that

[tidal bronze]

Been using the s5 for a long time. Love it. Just got the S6 as well.

[woeful roost]

Or do you have to give room measurements?

[brave panther]

lidar, it "sees" the walls and draws them in the app then you re-create things in floor plan

[woeful roost]

Ah sick

[scenic radish]

But I'm just a lowly purple 😛

[woeful roost]

I want one even more now ugh

[quaint osprey]

Yep.. People can google just fine if they dare. Lol.

[scenic radish]

"if they dare" lol

[raven ember]

@quaint osprey You could always share it with Blakadder

[tidal bronze]

Use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.flole.xiaomi&hl=en_US to get the map zones. Click -and-go

[woeful roost]

I love this

[valid halo]

Ew

Light Mode

[woeful roost]

• my room is not 23C

[valid halo]

hisses

[woeful roost]

I should customise my dashboard more but eh

Almost all my applications are dark theme, it's nice to have a change

[brave panther]

C? screeches in imperial

[woeful roost]

Don't talk to me about fahrenheit

[valid halo]

SCREECH

Personally I enjoy F for figuring out what to wear during the day.

[brave panther]

FWIW I would love to get better at metric and whatnot.

It gets easier the more I try.

Yeah Fahrenheit is honestly better for "day to day" stuff

but mathematically/scientifically I agree it's superior.

[woeful roost]

Disagree in terms of day to day stuff

But not gonna start that argument lol

[brave panther]

1000kcal to raise 1000mL of water 1°C

[woeful roost]

How much maintenance does roborock s5 require?

I imagine it fills up pretty quickly?

Where does the dirt even go lol

[brave panther]

@woeful roost the bin is a bit small for my liking but otherwise, just getting the crap out of the bristles is the only thing I've had to do so far

[woeful roost]

delete

[hushed basalt]

Like snake venom 🐍

[scenic radish]

"how do I delete someone else's comment"

[woeful roost]

How often do you need to empty it?

[valid halo]

I can't get a robot suck machine

[brave panther]

@woeful roost It could hold about 2 handfuls of Cheerios I guess, maybe 3, but it's enough for the area I'm using it in

[dull chasm]

@scenic radish you cant

[valid halo]

I have a dog that's not perfectly trained to not use the house as it's bathroom

[hushed basalt]

Remember when you could find out someones IP with IRC

[woeful roost]

Handfuls of cheerios is an SI unit

[valid halo]

I was using IRC until a few months ago

[hushed basalt]

So many script kiddies

[valid halo]

then we moved to Discord

[brave panther]

Right now, new carpet in basement, it's shedding badly. Have to empty it each cleaning, if not twice. Generally I'd say probably best to empty it after each cleaning. Just to be sure.

[dull chasm]

@scenic radish but i can/did

[brave panther]

Could always ICQ...

Me: What's your username?
Bro: 9123217162

[scenic radish]

Vasiley out here flexin his mod abilities

[hushed basalt]

I have a Neato and it needs an empty every cycle

[woeful roost]

Does it actually save that much effort compared to vacuuming manually? 🤔

[hushed basalt]

But that's medium pile old carpet

Hard floors not so much

[woeful roost]

Asking as someone who very much does not like vacuuming

[hushed basalt]

They're great though..robot vacs in general

[woeful roost]

I will still have to vacuum the bathroom manually because cat litter... which I don't really want in the robot

[hushed basalt]

I think you can use HA to target zones

[brave panther]

Yep

[scenic radish]

What about a robot for...other needs. Any suggestions?

[hushed basalt]

So I would do say, entry hall and kitchen/eating area every day

[brave panther]

@scenic radish Home Blondimation

Alexa: Tediore, I see you've been lonely lately. Do you need help with that?

[hushed basalt]

And whole house every 3 days

[valid halo]

Sadly Robot Hand Holding Technology is still in it's infancy

the last test subject lost his hand

[hushed basalt]

They also get under furniture you can't with an upright

[scenic radish]

"hand" holding

I'm more of a Google Assistant guy tbh

[valid halo]

XD

Oh noooo

[hushed basalt]

Do you have carpet Haystack

[brave panther]

Oh so you WANT your viewing history to be made accessible to the internet.

[woeful roost]

Next I need something that will clean the sink and toilet for me too

@hushed basalt yes

[valid halo]

Careful Tediore [FORBIDDEN TOPIC] Will get jealous at you two timing it

[woeful roost]

Even the bathroom is carpeted (😠)

[brave panther]

Omg that's forbidden

[hushed basalt]

Yeah you "should" be vacuuming every day

[woeful roost]

Dumbest idea

[scenic radish]

Oh fuck no

[brave panther]

ewwww mold...

[hushed basalt]

Burn it with fire

[scenic radish]

Yeah time for a new place

[valid halo]

I have some black mold in my mom's room

[woeful roost]

Yep there's mold next to the bath because the shower screen sucks

[valid halo]

I'll grab my lighter...

[scenic radish]

🤢

[brave panther]

burn the whole house. only way to be sure.

[hushed basalt]

Are you renting

[woeful roost]

It's a rented apartment

[hushed basalt]

Nuke it from orbit

[woeful roost]

The other residents might not enjoy that

[hushed basalt]

Localised Nuke

[proper swift]

only for a second

[valid halo]

You posted a warning on your face book page 30 Earth Days prior. They have no reason to complain.

[scenic radish]

Discord is so fucking distracting when I'm trying to get other shit done. Peace bois

[woeful roost]

Yeah it is lol

[brave panther]

See ya @scenic radish

[hushed basalt]

Yeah you can't do that

Gotta turn those notifications off

[brave panther]

I just use the web client and mute the tab. Haven't found a need for thick client yet.

[tulip sage]

What is best / cheapest smart colour light bulb to buy now days? I hear lifx thrown around a lot.

[brave panther]

LIFX definitely not the cheapest.

[hushed basalt]

Best / cheapest 🤣

[valid halo]

Get Phillips Hue

[brave panther]

Digiblur did a comparison. One sec.

[hushed basalt]

Best value perhaps?

[tulip sage]

I don't want to comprise quality :P

[woeful roost]

Best / cheapest
I'd just answer with the cheapest zigbee colour bulb

[valid halo]

at 1% of a college tuition it's very cheap

[brave panther]

https://www.digiblur.com/2019/11/the-extensive-smart-light-comparison-of.html
https://youtu.be/MnmUPF5rRro

[valid halo]

God Bless people who make comparisons

[hushed basalt]

Tradfri are decent price/quality ratio

[brave panther]

🔲 Best.
🔲 Cheapest.
Choose one.

[hushed basalt]

I've found tuya stuff to be a bit ew

[valid halo]

Best Cheap Fast

I need the Trifecta

The Triple Crown

The Full Triangle

[hushed basalt]

The tripod

[woeful roost]

Hue bulbs are great value if you get the plain white ones, but the RGB ones are really not cheap

[hushed basalt]

I wouldn't buy a monochromatic bulb again

CCT at least nowadays

[valid halo]

TBH RGB Bulbs feel like a gimmick to me

[woeful roost]

^

[valid halo]

"I can make my lights RED! Wooooo!"

[hushed basalt]

You take that back

[woeful roost]

Hue white bulbs are the perfect colour/temperature

[hushed basalt]

🐉

[woeful roost]

Doesn't feel lacking at all to me

[valid halo]

RGB Bulbs are a GIMMICK badtecotech

[hushed basalt]

I have professional film and tv experience

I can't stand fixed colour temp

[woeful roost]

Also getting a "normal" colour on some RGB bulbs (at least cheapo ones that my friends have) is actually a pain lol

[hushed basalt]

It's just wrong.

Illegal.

[proper swift]

they are not a gimmick they are amazing lalalalalalalalalala

[valid halo]

You wouldn't like my room

[brave panther]

Hue are great as they use Zigbee I believe, keeps things off your WiFis if that's your thing. But hub limited to ~50 per hub if I remember correctly.
LIFX are brightest and the most color accurate. 1100 lumens is amazing.
But honestly if you want to light up your whole house with RGBs, that's gonna be very expensive if you want it done right. So be prepared to spend some cash.

[valid halo]

It's mixed color temp

I've got three blinding white blubs on one side and one "daylight" bulb on the other side

[woeful roost]

@brave panther yeah they use zigbee

I use the Conbee II instead of Hue Bridge

Works perfectly

[brave panther]

Very good

[hushed basalt]

Hue Ambience should be good general bulbs if you can get the right price

[woeful roost]

You shouldn't really have 50 smart bulbs in your house anyway lol

If you have that many bulbs just buy a zigbee dimmer switch instead

[brave panther]

When you add them all up, I'm sure people do.

[woeful roost]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zigbee-Dimmer-Switch-Compatible-Echo/dp/B07XPJ22W3

[brave panther]

Hah true. But some want red drop lights so.. 🤷‍♂️

[valid halo]

I've been looking at bulbes because for my HA history. No Nuetral switcehs have been a lost cause

apart from Lutron

[brave panther]

@valid halo Lutron Caseta

Yep

[proper swift]

I have a few MiLight's outside. mostly so I can do dumb things like say "if decemeber make red/green"

[hushed basalt]

Can you just put a shelly in the roof

[tulip sage]

To be honest thinking about it now i probably don't need colour bulbs, i will eventually get some light strips installed at some point for that 🤷

[valid halo]

A shelly on the roof?

[hushed basalt]

And use the active just as a switch to the exisiting wire

[woeful roost]

@proper swift okay that's an acceptable use and is pretty cool

[valid halo]

I aint gonna go crawling in my attic XD

[hushed basalt]

Shelley? Shelly? Shelllyyyy

[valid halo]

Last time we did that my dad's leg fell through the ceiling

[woeful roost]

F

[brave panther]

[tulip sage]

So much chaos, thanks for all info. I'll do some googling now I got some names / terms in my head.

[hushed basalt]

C-c-c-c-c-ombo breaker

[valid halo]

also Apparently we are going to sell this house and move out (soon TM)

so that kind of project feels ill advised

[hushed basalt]

Then don't buy Any more bulbs either :D

[brave panther]

ick yea... would be a shame to do all that and move, and have to re-install what was there before

[valid halo]

but but but

[woeful roost]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-Personal-Wireless-Lighting-Bayonet/dp/B0748MDYJN
I get these bulbs and they're great

[valid halo]

buying things makes me feel good

I like 💵

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/6m-rain-wallstreet-makeitrain-gif-8203989

[hushed basalt]

Just put switches in your new house

[valid halo]

I plan to take all my smart stuff with me

[woeful roost]

Yeah do

[valid halo]

As I am not playing "How the fuck do I Home Assistant" over the phone LMAO

[woeful roost]

Yeah exactly

No one's gonna know what to do with our kinda stuff lmao

Only thing I wouldn't remove is network cables from the walls probably because that's effort to remove

[brave panther]

And it's pretty cheap really.

[woeful roost]

And anyone can work that out tbh

[valid halo]

Don't worry. My house is too old to have network cables in the walls

😄

[brave panther]

screams in 1956

[valid halo]

It's like 50 years old

[brave panther]

Same.

[valid halo]

No Network Cables. No Neutrals. ALuminium wires

screeches

[woeful roost]

I don't know anyone else in the UK who has network cables in the walls

[valid halo]

I get the Jealous when I see people talking about building a new house with Cable Drops everywhere and such.

[woeful roost]

Well I don't either because I'm renting rn but I would usually

Yeah same

[brave panther]

I think outside of the technically inclined, 80% of people don't care to have everything plugged in. Most just concede with WiFi on their laptop/phone/tablet/TV.

[tidal bronze]

@woeful roost what's wrong with 50 plus of anything ? 🙂 I run ESP, zigbee, zwave and zwave plus.

[valid halo]

Why do things gotta cost MONEY

[woeful roost]

Hah it's not wrong I just think if someone bought 50+ smart bulbs it likely is not the most efficient solution

Because you can get zigbee dimmer switches like the one I linked a minute ago

[brave panther]

How else can they alert intruders with red light?

And shower in blue?

And be green with envy!

[valid halo]

I need network cable runs so I can setup TensorFlow using Defense turrets

[woeful roost]

Just put a long light strip in your gutter

[tidal bronze]

There is no right or wrong with these things. I guess comes down the cost and implementation.

[valid halo]

"You are not a recognized Face. You have Ten Seconds to leave the property."

[brave panther]

@valid halo I approve this.

[woeful roost]

Yeah exactly

[brave panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxBa5bQfTGc

[woeful roost]

If you want party mode with all your bulbs changing colours independently

[brave panther]

Something like this.

[woeful roost]

Then yeah you'd probably need a ton of smart bulbs

[valid halo]

Speaking of smart tech.

Oh wait no this would be dumb tech

They make a Huge Enter Button that you can SLAM your fist down upon

Sounds like a good idea for us

[woeful roost]

@brave panther dude holy macaroni that thing is scary

[brave panther]

Makes it that much more enticing!

[woeful roost]

@valid halo I saw that lol

Man I need a sentry gun in my life

That's the coolest thing I've seen in a while and it comes in its own portable briefcase

My dream of playing real life team fortress will soon come to be

Between this and Elon Musk's flamethrower

[valid halo]

You could have your Mycroft Pi Ask the Mailman a passcode to avoid being shot with bright orange paint balls

[woeful roost]

lmao

[valid halo]

Go full paranoid hermit

[woeful roost]

Yeah shame this kinda thing would be totally illegal here

[brave panther]

Same. There's laws against "booby traps" here in the states.

[valid halo]

HMMM.

Dang

it would have been funny

"Robber gets shrekt by Home Assistant Sentry Guns"

[brave panther]

But if you did something that ACTED like it was gonna shoot them, that'd be different I think. The fear of shooting them is not the same as shooting them. IANAL, YMMV.

[woeful roost]

So just shoot very close to them

[valid halo]

"Fire a warning shot past his ear Legolas"

[woeful roost]

heh

I like this

[brave panther]

Intruder: walks up to house
Alexa: I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that...
paintball ensues

[woeful roost]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGR-A1

[brave panther]

In a related vain, https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wtrex/rubber-band-minigun

[woeful roost]

How much ammo can that thing hold?

[brave panther]

144

[woeful roost]

Woah nice

[brave panther]

12 barrels, 12 bands each

[ocean mirage]

can you imagine reloading though

[brave panther]

comes in wood, and black painted

yeah i can't imagine..

you'd need a tool to help

[valid halo]

Create a robot to reload it for you

🤔

[brave panther]

https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/027/001/206/560440bad27d6b2b68194f1fc3396833_original.gif?ixlib=rb-2.1.0&w=680&fit=max&v=1572269697&auto=format&gif-q=50&q=92&s=85a8338de9948c56c7cf6d454fd15823

[woeful roost]

with specially designed mechanism that allows you to load it in a matter of minutes.

[ocean mirage]

so tedious

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/time-timecard-spongebob-later-gif-3570175

[valid halo]

"Hol Up I missed. I gotta reload. Just...Just wait there."

[woeful roost]

Matter of minutes meaning 59 minutes

[brave panther]

i mean, a million minutes is still a matter of minutes.

[valid halo]

Clearly we need a Rubber Band Metal Storm

that fires 10,000 bands at once

[brave panther]

"Our rubber bands will blot out the sun..."

[valid halo]

However it takes five years to reload.

But your robber will be a walking welt

[ocean mirage]

well just make sure you kill all the enemies before reloading

new round no reload

[brave panther]

Have another one handy, problem solved.

oh, two not enough? follow the n+1 routine.

[ocean mirage]

just pay neighbourhood kids to reload the one you arent using

[brave panther]

That would be frowned upon I'm sure.

[woeful roost]

They should make a machine that reloads it for you, and then a machine to reload the reloading machine

[brave panther]

Giving a kid a $5 bill and some rubbers = jail time. 😄

[valid halo]

"Alexa Summon my Minions." "Calling the Neighbors"

[brave panther]

@woeful roost https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_detector_detector

The levels go deep..

Cop: Radar
Guy: Radar detector
Cop: Radar detector detector
Guy: Radar detector detector detector
...

[valid halo]

Just build an EMP Device

then no more Radar Detector Detector Detectors

[brave panther]

and no more radars. but that's just collateral damage.

[valid halo]

Gotta focus on your own happiness rite

W-what do you mean the cable is down?

Oh fu-

[brave panther]

Work: "Server's down."
Shitty IT: "Can't be hacked if the server's offline!"

[valid halo]

Hahahaha

[brave panther]

Anywho I'm gonna go mess with my new 3d printer, courtesy of Mr. Claus himself. Have a couple mods to do, now that the prints just got done. 🙂

[valid halo]

Coool

Thanks Mr C. Very Cool

[brave panther]

Ender 3 Pro. What a bro.

[valid halo]

How do you think he makes all the toys

3D Printing BayBee

[woeful roost]

@brave panther lol

[proper swift]

a 3d printer is an infinitely deep hole. worse than home automation

[brave panther]

Could just 3d print a 3d printer. Like how you can pretty much make a lathe using a lathe.

[woeful roost]

My friend has Ender 5

With a bunch of mods

[brave panther]

yeah the assembly was a lot like a Lego kit

then, you mod it. takes more time modding it than it did assembling.

[valid halo]

They have metallic 3D print now

[woeful roost]

He replaced some plastic parts with metal I think

[valid halo]

3D Print a Car.

[brave panther]

same.

[woeful roost]

And made things more stable

Is there like a kit for modding it?

Or are they just really basic common parts like nuts and bolts

[brave panther]

Nah, just lots of small mods.

• Silent motherboard with upgraded motor drivers (no motor whining, high pitched screeching is terrible)
• All metal hot end (filament doesn't get bunched up since the hot end is all metal and there's no gap for filament to melt into)
• Metal extruder (filament doesn't slip since metal doesn't flex like plastic does)
• Better PTFE tube (filament doesn't get bunched up or stick against the tubing)
• BLTouch self-leveler (no need to manually adjust the bed level, for the most part)
• 3d printed tool holder, drawers, cable management (just little improvements)

the individual mods do come in kits tho

[woeful roost]

Ah cool

Are the mods expensive?

[valid halo]

3D printing a tool holder for your 3D printer

Dope

[woeful roost]

I've seen some really cool 3D printed Raspberry Pi blade chassis on r/homelab

In general though, not sure what I'd use a 3D printer for

[valid halo]

Bables are Triangles?

O_O

[brave panther]

@woeful roost I had a friend print one of those 2U 15 Ras Pi blade mounts but honestly it was too many so I will eventually end up re-printing one myself for perhaps 6-8 instead.

[ocean mirage]

did you get the skr mainboard?

[woeful roost]

I have at least 4 Pis in the house right now

15 is too many for me lol

My R210 II handles all my needs fine anyway

[brave panther]

Have two R710s X5690 (12 core, 24 thread @ 3.4GHz) 144GB / 160GB RAM, it's definitely overkill.

[valid halo]

I have 1 Rpi

and 2 zeros that I lost

😦

[woeful roost]

lmao that's a lot of power

[valid halo]

Jaysus

[woeful roost]

I haven't even checked what my R210 II draws

[brave panther]

Yea. Around 230W each idle running no VMs (ESXi 6.7)

[ocean mirage]

thats a lot of idle

[brave panther]

running VMs, not a lot more. but the heat is definitely a concern for most.

[woeful roost]

I like the switch I got, it's a zyxel 24 port fanless managed switch and I got it for £35 (retail price is like £90)

Fanless managed switches are a rare breed

[ocean mirage]

Ill check my server power draw when I get a UPS

[woeful roost]

What hypervisor do you use @brave panther

[brave panther]

@ocean mirage The mods I did are:

• Silent motherboard: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TYFJ924
• BLTouch auto-leveler: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FR2LLZP
• BLTouch pin 27 adapter: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QKJ7T1V
• All-metal hotend: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0789V2D7C
• Metal extruder: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B96QMN2

@woeful roost I use ESXi 6.7

[woeful roost]

Ah

I'm a Proxmoxer myself

[brave panther]

but honestly I might downgrade in the future as it's a lot of power for the ~15 VMs I run right now

Yeah I am considering that

[woeful roost]

Only 15? 😰

[ocean mirage]

Ahh cool, thanks for the list

[brave panther]

Yeah I moved a lot off onto its own hardware the last year so there's less to do virtually.

[ocean mirage]

I just bought a different motherboard myself similar reasons

[woeful roost]

I can definitely recommend Proxmox

[ocean mirage]

also makes it easy for BLtouch to be added and no need to flash a bootloader to update firmware

[brave panther]

Right

[ocean mirage]

I am gonna hold off on hotend/extruder upgrades for a while, feel like I need to live with it for a while

but I would go the hemera when I do, pricey though

like 70% or more what I paid for the printer lol

[brave panther]

Yeah the little "missing spots" go away when your extruder and hotend are able to pull filament without nags

[proper swift]

I need to upgrade my servers, I'm running like 20+ VM's and need to bring up another 10 or so.. sugh..

[ocean mirage]

I've been getting decent results as is really, I am happy with it for now

gonna order a capricorn PTFE tube tho, that will be useful in the mean time

[woeful roost]

My next homelab upgrades are gonna be:

1. Bigger SSD for VMs
2. Extra 16GB of memory to max it out
3. UPS
4. Maybe upgrade from E3-1220v2 to E3-1240v2

Actually maybe UPS should be #2

[ocean mirage]

Yeah I really need to get a UPS but that is boring money spent

[woeful roost]

Yeah it kinda is

[ocean mirage]

Power went out for the first time this year the other day tho

[brave panther]

yup. the big reason you want a full metal hotend is the PTFE tube on the stock one doesn't come all the way to the nozzle and even if you can get it there by adjusting it, over time it'll come loose and create a pocket where molten filament can gather and gob up your nozzle

[woeful roost]

I should be more worried about me accidentally flipping the wrong switch than actual powercuts lmao

I did it a few weeks ago

The feeling of dread when I hear the room go quiet

[ocean mirage]

Yeah, gonna keep my eye on that one Roo, if I see issues ill know what to check

[brave panther]

and extruder wise there's just flex in the plastic. that's more of an issue than the nozzle starting out, but both in the long run.

[ocean mirage]

ill just wait and get the hemera for my birthday or something lol

[brave panther]

🙂

It's a bit odd when people ask.

"What you want for your birthday?"
"BLTouch"
"Err, what's that?"

[woeful roost]

I really badly need to build a PC because my laptop is garbage, but any time I have some spare cash I end up spending it on either my homelab or home automation

[brave panther]

I just made an Amazon list. haha

[ocean mirage]

I bought some better springs for the bed for cheap, see if they hold it in place better. happy with manual levelling for now

[woeful roost]

Addiction is a bitch

[ocean mirage]

"Which tech do I want to spend money on"

so many options it kills

[woeful roost]

😭

Amazon lists and ebay watch lists are what I use to gather things and then prioritise them

Amazon lets you set priorities for items which is helpful

[ocean mirage]

I only really use Amazon when I have to, its not the best experience for those living in Australia

[woeful roost]

Ah, yeah

It's great in the UK

[scenic radish]

K I'm back

[woeful roost]

Nice food

[ocean mirage]

Head back again you forgot the flavour

[scenic radish]

:(

[woeful roost]

Yeah squirt some ketchup

[ocean mirage]

Just having a go :) as long as you like it

[scenic radish]

Grilled chicken seasoned with olive oil and garlic herb seasoning

Prolly add some soy sauce to the rice

[woeful roost]

I've had pizza every day for the last week

[scenic radish]

I didn't burn the shit out of the chicken on the grill this time

[woeful roost]

This is what happens to me when my wife's on holiday

[scenic radish]

Turns out you don't need the grill at 100% all the time

[woeful roost]

There's not a lot I dislike more than cooking

[ocean mirage]

what? 100% cooks it faster tho

[scenic radish]

I don't mind it

[woeful roost]

Home Asisstant integration for cooking please

[scenic radish]

Might be faster but you risk burning the outside while leaving the inside undercooked

100% is good for steak, not so much for chicken

[woeful roost]

Just use a bunsen burner

[scenic radish]

🤢

[woeful roost]

lmao

[brave panther]

natural selection.

[valid halo]

Ooft

COOK Your Food Y'all

[woeful roost]

Can anyone recommend a cheap ass wireless camera for home assistant

[valid halo]

I can tell you don't buy Wyze

[woeful roost]

rip

[valid halo]

The RTSP has been hit and miss for me

personally

[woeful roost]

I couldn't really find anything by searching on amazon

[scenic radish]

What's ass wireless?

[valid halo]

A camera you attach to your butt

[woeful roost]

2.4GHz

[brave panther]

when you have shitty connection

[valid halo]

its a back up camera for your self

[ocean mirage]

The first question is: does it really have to be wireless?

[woeful roost]

Well I'm not stretching a cable from my rack to the kitchen window

[scenic radish]

Why not

Do it

[brave panther]

@valid halo I've personally had no issues but it depends on distance, how many - and what type of - walls are in between, and the lowest denominator technology.

[woeful roost]

Oh so it's the wireless connection itself which is the problem?

[brave panther]

Wyze have other problems lately too

[woeful roost]

Wasn't there a supposed data breach

[brave panther]

https://forums.wyzecam.com/t/updated-12-29-19-data-leak-12-26-2019/79046

[woeful roost]

I saw that the other day

[brave panther]

Mhmm

[woeful roost]

Yeah that

[brave panther]

they logged everyone out, to be safe

[woeful roost]

Can you not use them local-only?

[ocean mirage]

Its also much easier to power cameras if they arent wireless, just do some PoE

[woeful roost]

Ugh I wish I could hey google preheat the oven

[ocean mirage]

I'd just run some ethernet through the attic if you can

[woeful roost]

I don't have a PoE switch 😦

[brave panther]

Yeah I PoE my 6 Reolink cams

[valid halo]

My biggest hurdle for Wired cams Is I don't want to drill holes in my walls

[brave panther]

Hay they are not that expensive but I don't know your budget so that's relative

[woeful roost]

Also attic is a no, rented apartment

[brave panther]

Ah that's fair @valid halo

[woeful roost]

I do actually have loft access, but I can't make any holes

[valid halo]

I don't want to break something XD

[brave panther]

If you break it, you can fix it. How else was your house put together to begin with? 🙂

[woeful roost]

@brave panther I ideally wanted to spend less than £50 for the whole camera setup lol

[brave panther]

Gotcha. So Wyze and get a wifi repater? I don't know a lot about the current repeater technology but possibly something to look at.

[woeful roost]

How else was your house put together to begin with?
By a builder (I am not one) lol

[brave panther]

Or powerline adapters to add an additional network connection somewhere.

[scenic radish]

Yeah I have a powerline Ethernet set, they work pretty well

I'm only using it to place my security system gateway in a more convenient spot though

Nothing high bandwidth

[valid halo]

Powerline I've been gazing at

[brave panther]

Yeah. I just did it at my dad's place so he could have hardwired internet upstairs without running cable - he's on an older computer that has issues with WiFi cards (none of the 3 we've tried worked so gave up).

[woeful roost]

When we buy a house I'll probably splurge on some nice PoE switch and get a bunch of PoE cameras 😍

[brave panther]

Serves 100Mb/s no issue. Just sucks it's not gigabit but it's fine for what he uses it for.

[woeful roost]

Powerline is a good idea though

[scenic radish]

Powerline Ethernet is fucking magic AFAIC

[woeful roost]

Nano routers also work for giving wireless capabilities to wired devices

[brave panther]

Honestly you could run powerline from downstairs to switch upstairs, run cameras to the upstairs switch, and still be OK. Most cameras only use a few Mb/s so out of 100, you could run quite a few.

[ocean mirage]

it might be worthwhile speaking to your landlord and just seeing if you can run a few cables, if they trust you enough to fix it later

[woeful roost]

It's a one floor apartment

[wet pilot]

@scenic radish just runs a signal on a different frequency, nothing too magic

[woeful roost]

Single bedroom

Small

@ocean mirage lol I don't trust me enough to fix it later

[ocean mirage]

haha

[wet pilot]

2.4GHz in an apartment setting is 🤢

[scenic radish]

@wet pilot yeah it's just interesting to me

Haven't had issues with 2.4 that I've seen

Surprisingly

[woeful roost]

Yeah when I first found out about powerline I remember being shocked and bewildered

[scenic radish]

And my phone often connects to 2.4 because of the stupid spot I need to put my router

[valid halo]

Hey. Why does everything use 2.4ghz

and not 5ghz

[wet pilot]

No licensing fees

[scenic radish]

Signal strength

For low-bandwidth devices 5 shows little to no benefit

[woeful roost]

Smart devices could be spread out around your house a lot, I guess it makes sense in a lot of situations

[valid halo]

licensing fees

ew

be more like USB

[scenic radish]

Reminds me of people pissing and moaning about ecobee being 2.4 GHz only lol

What, are you watching movies on it or something?

[valid halo]

so I'm being the dumb and assuming "bigger number=better"

[woeful roost]

Is ecobee cloud based?

[valid halo]

probably

[wet pilot]

2.4 can be really successful if deployed correctly but it never is

[valid halo]

what isn't these days 😦

[scenic radish]

Unfortunately

But it's HomeKit compatible

And works with HomeKit controller

[valid halo]

They're gonna make a CLoud Connected Coffin one day

[woeful roost]

The only thing I'm really concerned about when I move is heating

Right now our place just has those portable electric convection heaters

[scenic radish]

And their cloud API is trash

[woeful roost]

And I put them on smart plugs and got a zigbee temperature sensor, easy setup for Home Assistant thermostat

Works fantastically

[wet pilot]

Just watch your circuit loading

[woeful roost]

But with centralised heating the heat will take longer to propagate

Yeah I'm not overloading anything dw

UK sockets are 13A

[wet pilot]

Ah nice

[woeful roost]

Well the smart plugs do get a little warm when the heaters are on

But nothing crazy

👀 I think it's fine

[wet pilot]

10A standard in the US. 15A is possible on 110V 20A on 220V

[woeful roost]

Our double sockets are usually 20A, single ones are 13A

My smart plugs are only 10A but I don't have any single device that uses that much lol

[valid halo]

IIRC that's why some people worry about Son off and Shelly

their amp limit

[brave panther]

Network wise, I'm currently running:

• 6 5MP Reolink PoE cameras to an
• 8-port PoE + 2-port SFP Netgear GS510TLP switch, which connects via LACPd 1Gb/s SFP (fiber, for lightning strike separation) to a...
• 24-port PoE + 4 port SFP+ Netgear GS728TP switch, which connects via LACPd 10Gb/s SFP+ (twinax copper DAC) to a ...
• 16-port SFP+ Mikrotik CRS317-1G-16S+RM switch, which connects via LACPd 10Gb/s SFP+ to ...
• Whitebox pfSense build, "router on a stick", serving 400Mb/s WAN side, 10Gb/s LAN side

I've got all of that, plus my whitebox FreeNAS, and two R710s, and numerous Ras Pis and various HA stuff.

[valid halo]

I understood some of those numbers 😄

[woeful roost]

Anyway yeah I just don't know how I'm gonna do the heating in a similar way to how I do it now

[valid halo]

I really should take a CCNA course

My internet knowledge is pathetic

[woeful roost]

Radiators usually have those knob things

That scares me

How do I automate a freaking knob

[brave panther]

Belt.

Pulleys.

[wet pilot]

@valid halo CCNA overkill

You can get the knowledge without giving Cisco more money

[valid halo]

True but the Cert would be nice to put on my resume.

[woeful roost]

Yeah I was thinking I'd work towards CCNA after I finish my degree

[wet pilot]

A networking class at your local community college would be cheaper and serve you better

[brave panther]

@valid halo I'd give you my old Cisco switches if you want them, and are willing to pay shipping. 3x 2950, 2x 2948G

[scenic radish]

@wet pilot you can have a 20A outlet on 120V. Just requires 12 ga wire

[woeful roost]

I don't think community college is a thing here 🤔

[valid halo]

I'd love to say yes but I would not know the first thing to do with them.

[brave panther]

Ain't worth much these days, just for lab crap

[valid halo]

They'd be uh

very nice paper weights tho

[wet pilot]

@scenic radish huh neat. Seems like 🔥

[scenic radish]

Nah. 12 gauge takes care of that

[brave panther]

Yeah

[wet pilot]

I mean for people plugging dumb shit into it 😀

[brave panther]

14g = 15A
12g = 20A

[valid halo]

My college does have courses on Networking

so I'll look into those

[scenic radish]

Ah. Well, your breaker should take care of that lol. You'd be hard-pressed to exceed 20A unless you plug in two space heaters or something

[wet pilot]

I guess the 20A would have the funky plug with the horizontal prong

[brave panther]

Not necessarily.

[scenic radish]

Not necessarily

[brave panther]

LOL

Goddammit Tediore

[wet pilot]

Lol

[brave panther]

I like you

[valid halo]

Just cover your wires in asbestos

and you'll bee fine

[scenic radish]

Kitchen circuits are required to be 20A, at least in the US

[brave panther]

And bathroom has to have GFCI

[woeful roost]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/1080p-Indoor-Wireless-Camera-Vision/dp/B076H3SRXG

[scenic radish]

Because of high-draw devices like coffeemakers, etc

[brave panther]

Well, anywhere with water i think

[woeful roost]

Is this a good

[brave panther]

In this channel: How to burn your house down in 30 days or less

[scenic radish]

SMASH THAT MF LIKE BUTTON AND SUBSCRIBE

[brave panther]

has to be a British accent though

[valid halo]

Home Assistant: 0.104 adds the ability to automate Insurance Fraud

[scenic radish]

*money laundering

[brave panther]

Can't have home automation if your home is a prison cell!

[valid halo]

Automate your Prison

[scenic radish]

touches head

[valid halo]

then escape

[brave panther]

Alexa, open cell 618

Okay!

Hacked

[valid halo]

Hackerman.png

[scenic radish]

https://media.tenor.com/images/a82f59ee5fd0bc0bd0dcda9a6a80a337/tenor.gif

[valid halo]

Exactly

[scenic radish]

The scanners gets me every time lmao

[valid halo]

Gotta hack the scanners man

[brave panther]

Some prisons are being equipped with drone detectors now because people were drone-dropping cell phones and whatnot.

[valid halo]

that's where they hide the Bitcoin

tfw your prisoners escape from a quad copter picking them up out of the exercise yard

[brave panther]

oh god how many that would take

reminds me of Up

[valid halo]

"Flock of 2,000 quad copters kidnap family"

"Government Terrified"

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/human-drones-drones-false-soldiers-fly-franky-zapata-gif-15589876

[scenic radish]

Fucking clickbait farticles

[brave panther]

I'm imagining that getting to a prisoner, part by part over many months, to be assembled,

mouthful of gasoline here, envelope with wire there...

[valid halo]

a year later. "Prisoner 6267 what are you doing?" "There are no strings on me..." -floats into the air and then zooms off into the distance-

[brave panther]

So about that Wyze thing...

The vulnerability started December 4th and did not involve any of our production data tables. While significant, this database only contained a subset of data. It did not contain user passwords or government-regulated personal or financial information. It did contain customer emails along with camera nicknames, WiFi SSIDs, Wyze device information, body metrics for a small number of product beta testers, and limited tokens associated with Alexa integrations.

Body metrics? Are they working on smart scales / fitness trackers now?

https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/07/23/wyze-scale-leaks-at-fcc-with-full-photos-and-manual-wi-fi-smart-plug-may-be-in-the-works/
Dang, apparently so...

[valid halo]

Wyze is doing a lot

[brave panther]

I have a Garmin Index but to have the data easily accessible in HA would be neat.

[valid halo]

Wyze makes me want to buy more cloud stuff

They have nice "Someone Elses Computers"

[brave panther]

@valid halo Honestly they are. Some of the stuff is rebranded other-company stuff (Dafang) but it's still neat what they're doing.

[valid halo]

They were trying to make a Wyze NAS/Network Hard Drive

but their partner fell through

[sterile bridge]

^--- re the drone - there was an aussie prison escape, the guys girlfriend went on a scenic flight and held up the pilot and forced him to land in the yard

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/devoted-girlfriends-daring-helicopter-prison-break/news-story/f73d686c4fd81541c1e1a31b1a189149

[valid halo]

I heard in Greece of a helicopter prison escape

[hushed basalt]

Can wyze stuff work without internet access

I assume they're all subsidised in cost so they can get that sweet sweet metrics

[brave panther]

They can. Standard restrictions as any other blocked device (no viewing without port forwarding an NVR, etc)

That is, if you are using the RTSP firmware

[woeful roost]

🤔

Couldn't you just view it through Home Assistant?

[brave panther]

yep

[woeful roost]

I VPN in for everything anyway

[brave panther]

same. makes it easier haha

[woeful roost]

Except for owntracks

Which doesn't work well for me at all anyway 😦

Not sure why

[brave panther]

ahh. you forwarding mqtt for that?

[woeful roost]

I have an automation to turn heating on/off when I enter/leave a certain radius from home

HTTP not MQTT

[brave panther]

could give Life360 a go. i had issues with Owntracks myself.

The device was updating my location all weird. Didn't want to spend any more time trying to fix it after several hours.

[woeful roost]

Yeah it never updates my location unless I do it manually pretty much

[brave panther]

Said i was at work when I was clearly at home, restarted HA, it was fine after that. but then never detected me leaving. Restarted, detected me as gone. Rinse, repeat.

[woeful roost]

Yeah it's annoying

Is Life360 open-source?

[steel urchin]

<large expletive list>

just found the box for the skybell cam in the attic, and turns out it literally says on it "Exclusive to Alarm.com, not compatible with skybell app"

fml

[woeful roost]

Are there any non-cloud video doorbells?

I assume people are just better off putting a zigbee switch or similar and an RTSP camera and automating the rest with HA

My new doorbell

Each button will trigger a different tone or lighting effect

Except for one of them which will activate the paintball aimbot turret

[forest edge]

why lol

there are some non-cloud video doorbells and some that can be hacked to be made non-cloud

[woeful roost]

Nice, which ones?

[brave panther]

RCA make one that can be controlled locally.

[woeful roost]

I am not actually using a hue dimmer switch as a doorbell don't worry

That would be a dumb idea, you can literally take the switch out it's just attached by a magnet so you can bring it around with you

[brave panther]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077KW2T1H < RCA Smart Doorbell

It's basically a Ring drop-in.

[woeful roost]

3 stars 🤔

[brave panther]

Yeah I don't know.

[forest edge]

RCA has an older version that is alittle cheaper that you can drop custom firmware on

[brave panther]

Two of the first reviews said it "broke" in some form or fashion following power isuses.

Probably surges, fried them.

[steel urchin]

wow that was a beating to get back onto my alarm.com account

[brave panther]

Honestly if that RCA drops below $100 I might be inclined to get one just to tinker with and even if I don't like it totally, I may keep it for the back door.

[forest edge]

one thing i wouldn't do with ha right off the bat, hook my house alarm to it lol

[brave panther]

Right? Like you have to have your HA on spot unless you wanna be annoying the heck out of yourself or missing would-be events.

[forest edge]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P4D9K39/ref=sspa_dk_detail_7?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07P4D9K39&pd_rd_w=kMMg5&pf_rd_p=45a72588-80f7-4414-9851-786f6c16d42b&pd_rd_wg=BtZHF&pf_rd_r=BJHTX3B9Z4F6MMDWBYPP&pd_rd_r=615899a5-636f-4f6d-bc13-47d43d47c2fd&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzNFpEQ0RDSktHTlEyJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODg1NDYyMVhOQjI1WUFTTzdGTCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzk1NTYyMzVKQzBSTVNVMlpWTiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

I haven't looked into yet but supposedly you can hack these too

[brave panther]

dang that thing's thin

[raven ember]

Hack it how? Firmware re-write?

[forest edge]

yea

[raven ember]

Interesting, I've not seen a firmware that supports camera feeds

[steel urchin]

well i hate this stupid skybell camera

[forest edge]

send it to me i'll take it lol

[steel urchin]

you'll need an alarm.com account

[forest edge]

no i'll hack the thing

[steel urchin]

it's this POS https://www.amazon.com/Alarm-com-Skybell-Doorbell-Camera-Silver/dp/B07287HM3J

well hell ifyou know how ot hack it shoot me a walkthrough

i've been googling and can't find squat

i mean i found an older model that someone was able to connect a UART cable and root it.. .but that literally provides nothing except network access

[forest edge]

it's one of those i need it in my hands type of deals lol

[steel urchin]

mmm hmm

sassy snap

hmmm what about the Uniden DB1? Says it supports ONVIF

$50, not too shabby (if i can find it)

[woeful roost]

🤔

[hushed basalt]

I have my reverse proxy exposed straight in the world wide web

Because I live life on the edge

[valid halo]

YOLO

[forest edge]

I love forwarding telemarketers to the FBI help center

[steel urchin]

i just love fuckin with em

[forest edge]

not me most i hear is the "click" noise when my switch box switches them over behind me

[steel urchin]

switch box?

is that a landline thing?

[forest edge]

yea

I never gotten a single telemarketer call on my cell

I dunno why

[steel urchin]

well legally they aren't supposed to call cell phones

i haven't had a landline in... shoot... 25ish years?

[forest edge]

old habit, I kind of like it. came in handy a few times

even used it to charge my cell during a power out

[scenic radish]

If anyone has Philips hue dimmers and wants to use them as the primary switch for the room without looking dumb as hell, here's how I have them set up:

Looks pretty clean IMO. I can list the parts if anyone wants

That's over the box for an existing light switch

[ocean mirage]

interesting. that could work well

[scenic radish]

Been like that for years. Passes the (soon to be) WAF

[raven ember]

@scenic radish That's nice. Is any of that custom printed or all off the shelf?

[scenic radish]

Thanks. All off the shelf. Screwless switch plate and one of those commercial light switches that use the key to turn on/off

Or just wire the switch always hot

Then the hue dimmer just sticks to the screwless plate

E Z P Z

[wet pilot]

i've seen some good examples with the paddle switches and a lockout cover

[scenic radish]

Yeah, same. I have toggle switches though which is why I went this route

[shy prawn]

so what's your favoraite thing you've gotten from Home Assistant so far?

[woeful roost]

My dimmer switch does in fact look dumb as hell

[midnight adder]

I got a question. Figured I would ask here I guess. Not sure where to ask.

https://www.amazon.com/S-Video-Composite-Capture-Adapter-Support/dp/B00535BRBI/ref=sr_1_3?crid=152FJW45TEI44&keywords=startech+rca+to+usb&qid=1577673505&sprefix=startech+rca%2Caps%2C154&sr=8-3

Will these work with home assistant?

[woeful roost]

Yes that is duct tape and yes it is because my wife kept using the wrong switch

[hushed basalt]

Sounds like a job for 3d printer!

3d print a new wife

[wet pilot]

i think there have been successful experiments "3d printing" living tissue

[last dirge]

@wet pilot kinda

they print a scaffold and soak it in stem cells

[wet pilot]

yeah, hence the quotes

[last dirge]

I don't think they've actually successfully printed anything usable

but the way that technology is advancing I wouldn't be surprised

@midnight adder what are you doing with that?

[hidden cradle]

Apartment life

[raven ember]

Curious, anyone have any experience with rotary encoders other than then ubiquitous KY-040?

[steel urchin]

damn that is some dingy yellow plastic

[hidden cradle]

Anyone have problems with the smart things button eating batteries?

[last dirge]

@hidden cradle you should get some hydrogen peroxide after that

[steel urchin]

eh it's an apartment, i'm sure he doesn't care 😛

[hidden cradle]

I don't think it's dirt or age

Just a crap color

[wet pilot]

it might actually be that color, see the screws

[steel urchin]

lol wow... "New product for you boys in sales!!! That's right, we have a new 'on the cusp of baby diarrhea' that is just going to FLY off the shelves!"

[midnight adder]

@last dirge My aunt has old rca cameras from defender. We use these to get them up & working cause defender basically told us just buy their new shit.

[hidden cradle]

I know my hue lights don't like that dimmer

[brave panther]

@last dirge Actually there's been improvements "lately", as in this year. https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/israeli-scientists-create-world-s-first-3d-printed-heart-using-ncna996031

[last dirge]

I used to belong to a hackerspace where one of the members was a lower extremeties surgeon

he got an article published where he 3d printed a patient's foot from a MRI

[hexed magnet]

What is that, a heart for ants?

[last dirge]

he was able to do all of the stuff they normally have to do with the person open on the operating table without the person even being there

[brave panther]

I want to say heart valves are already being 3d printed as they're not actively organic (more mechanical than anything)

[last dirge]

it saved like 6 hours off of the surgery time

[hidden cradle]

Anyone using Google assistant with home assistant?

[hexed magnet]

I'm thinking about it, although I'm not a fan of exposing HA to the world.

I'm wondering if I can't instead use IFTTT with an exposed API relay that only does a few things, then send responses either to the house if I'm home or to my phone as a notification otherwise.

It's a little wonky, but it feels safer

[hidden cradle]

I was wondering if lights paired to home assistant are available to Google home

[hexed magnet]

I believe so: https://www.nabucasa.com/config/google_assistant/#available-domains