the-water-cooler

[steel urchin]

RCON protocol

everything points to "it should be working"

i can access from another system on the LAN just fine, that's the part that's REALLY screwing with me

it's like a route is messed up, but i don't see anything jumping out at me

and i literally installed windows today in this vm and updated, windows defender a/v and firewall disabled completely...

[wet pilot]

that was a joke, but you didn't get it

[steel urchin]

you told it wrong 😛

[peak cloud]

@steel urchin Nope, I’m pretty sure he told it just right. I’m glad you got it the second time, though!

I do love how he turned the explanation into another joke, that one had me rollin’.

[steel urchin]

as a network kernel writer i disagree 😛

[peak cloud]

Oh, is that so?

Please elaborate 😁

[steel urchin]

well the joke goes "I'd tell you a UDP joke, but i'm not sure you'd get it"

he just said "UDP?" during a valid network issue, which wasn't very "jokey"

[peak cloud]

So wait, a joke can only be told one way?! mind blown

[steel urchin]

if you want it told right, yes

it's called "delivery"

but, don't ask the USPS about that

(that's how it's done)

[peak cloud]

Which I fail very miserably at, every single time.

So you’re saying I should try to get a job at USPS. Got it!

[steel urchin]

so you're sayin you're the digornio of jokes? cuz it's not DELIVERY!?!?!

lol ok that was a stretch

[peak cloud]

(In the Mario voice) Is’a me, DiGiorno!

[steel urchin]

so... new bulbs = 👌

[peak cloud]

But seriously, you gotta hand it to him. His explanation was a joke in and of itself. And that made it super stellar.

[brave panther]

Soooo I did a thing. 🙂

[steel urchin]

hehe yeah, i'll give it to him 😛

[peak cloud]

@brave panther you hurt yourself again?!!! STOP HURTING YOURSELF BY DOING THINGS!!!

[brave panther]

Got SICK of the inability to flash older firmware, so I compiled a firmware with version 0xFFFFFFFF (255.255.255.255) and minimum version 0x00000000 (0.0.0.0) so I can flash whatever I want.

[steel urchin]

hax

[brave panther]

Ikr 🙂

I "accidentally" overwrote two of my dimmers with Tasmota 7.2.-something and couldn't flash back to tasmota-7.0.0.5-digiDIMv8

so they stopped working, and people were unpleased.

[peak cloud]

I have never been a big tasmota guy 🤷🏻‍♂️

[brave panther]

better than a lot of the offerings i guess.

MQTT is nice.

I have them in "works even if MQTT dies" mode.

[peak cloud]

The fallback I had with it was trying to use it in a closed/offline environment, one where I did not want to deploy a broker.

[brave panther]

Twas pretty easy to do this too, it's great how easy Theo made it even for fools like myself to compile a bin.

(to be honest, now that I have what I came for, I'll likely never touch Atom or the source again, until I need to update it to fix a bug or something) 😄

[peak cloud]

I ran Tasmota on a Sonoff 4CH Pro R2 for my Jeep, but wanted to be able to control it directly (ad-hoc) with a Nextion. 👎🏻

[brave panther]

Ahh. Can you do that without Tasmota?

(ie the stock firmware)

[peak cloud]

Whew, glad you’ve vowed to never touching atom again! VS Code is where it’s at, my friend!

[brave panther]

Lol.

Atom actually suggested for me to use the VSCode integration

[peak cloud]

No, the stock 4CH firmware requires internet, and as far as I know, is still a closed firmware.

[brave panther]

something along the lines of "users report it works..."

Gotcha. Yes, it's still very much closed source.

Even closed-release, ie "oops I accidentally" and they won't give you the bin.

[peak cloud]

But now that ESPHome is a thing, my life is wonderful!

[brave panther]

It's on the internet though, I linked it in my iot-santa Github.

Anywho yeah, that's great. Got my dimmers working, remotely even (over VPN, using a camera to confirm it), off to toy with WLED and xLights 🙂

Only 1 year to go!

[peak cloud]

I run ESPHome directly on the 4Ch’s ESP, and since it supports Nextion displays, I no longer need an additional Wemos D1 to bridge the two.

[brave panther]

Nice!

[peak cloud]

ESPHome is love. ESPHome is life.

Until it comes to driving WS281X LEDs...then: WLED is love. WLED is life.

[brave panther]

I'm actually going to be using one of the 4-channel relays to control 3 garage doors soon. then I'll wire the already-wired doorbell buttons to the output of the relays to retain the physical control over them.

[peak cloud]

As long as you don’t have “Security 2.0” garage door openers, that should be fine.

[brave panther]

Lmao the marketing is strong with garage door openers these days.

[peak cloud]

(It’s a Chamberlain line of things)

[brave panther]

Was actually planning on getting a couple new universal remotes as a couple of the old ones are ... old

and yeah it's just silly.

[peak cloud]

Seriously, Security 2.0 locks you into their own remotes. Myq is the only smart opener that I know of that works with it.

I’m not sure if the 4CH has 3 inputs that are usable/accessible for sensors — might be something you want to look into.

[brave panther]

i won't be replacing any of the garage door openers themselves or the control units but just the remotes and buttons to open them, for now at least. haven't looked into what the old one is and if i need to be concerned (clear-text, not-encrypted codes, etc) but maybe in the future. would like to get a radio and see if i can sniff out the codes OTA.

Well I'm just using them to close the circuit to open or close the door. Have magnetic sensors to detect open/close already.

MQTT of course 😄

[peak cloud]

Well, before Sec20 you could just short the terminals and it would open/close, so encryption is no big deal there.

And if you ever do end up sniffing the codes, they are rolling codes. Most likey 315MHz or 433MHz.

Rolling codes require a second “engagement” to pair.

[brave panther]

yeah pretty sure we have to use two remotes to pair a third, hold them for like 10 seconds or something. been awhile.

[peak cloud]

And once it’s paired, a remote has approximately 200 presses to get a valid signal back from the opener in order to stay paired.

By second engagement I meant that the remote has to send it’s signal twice, not necessarily a second remote.

Car keyless entry systems work very similar, but with more security. They are rolling codes as well. If you ever want to mess with a friend and lock them out of their car, you can grab their car remote and press the button 200+ times to “unsync” the remote from their vehicle.

[brave panther]

lmao. you obviously know a lot more than i do about this. guessing you've had your own adventures?

[peak cloud]

With garage door openers, yes. Keyless entry systems, no. It’s just the knowledge I gain from research. Haha.

[midnight adder]

If you ever want to mess with a friend and lock them out of their car, you can grab their car remote and press the button 200+ times to “unsync” the remote from their vehicle
please don't share this with my friends

[peak cloud]

Well, I hope your friends aren’t lurking in this channel then 😂

[clever mortar]

If you can grab somebody's remote, there are more creative ways of messing with them, not including cans of fish

My favourite trick if you can reliably get repeated access is to adjust mirrors (and optionally the seat) to make it seem like they're growing/shrinking/leaning

tiny little changes, not enough to be obvious, just enough to mess with people 😛

[peak cloud]

Oh man, I would know instantly if someone messed with my seat or mirrors.

[clever mortar]

Not if you make the change small enough 😉

[brave panther]

Move the seat in their car three inches forward.

[peak cloud]

Those are four of five things you don’t touch in my Jeep.

[clever mortar]

I'm not speaking from experience of messing with somebody, you understand 😉

[brave panther]

😇

[peak cloud]

I know to the inch where my mirrors line up. If my seat is adjusted, all three mirrors are off. Unless you’re able to adjust all three mirrors and the seat in just the right way, I may not notice. But good luck with that!

(My mirrors are adjusted to see specific things on the vehicle, in specific ways)

Scratch that...five mirrors. I have two “blind spot” mirrors, and those are what some kids messed with last time.

[brave panther]

Some epic Photoshop there. 🙂

That's my idea. Basically just doing the same thing we're doing, but putting a Sonoff 4-channel behind the buttons to act as another switch.

[peak cloud]

You sure that wasn’t paint from Win98 SE? 😂

[brave panther]

[peak cloud]

Even when trying to override the garage door buttons, it’s necessary to have sensor input of the door position. And please, for the love of safety and other humans around you, make sure your garage doors have safety sensors.

[brave panther]

They do, that's the orange leads.

One of which I need to replace, as it shorts out (bad wire job from previous owner..)

It shorts out safe, though, as in it trips unnecessarily

So I destroyed a device today...

Lost connectivity for a blip of a second unfortunately while flashing an OTA update and couldn't reconnect...

Tore it apart only to find that there was no way to get to the chip's pins, as they soldered a damn shield over it. 😐

[peak cloud]

So then unsolder the shield?

[brave panther]

debating if it's even worth the time to undo that, or just toss it and buy two more for $28...

(( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F6X4KX3/ ))

I was surprised they actually worked in the first place, but they're actually pretty solid devices. Two ports, and power monitoring.

I made a template for them and sprinkled them around the house.

[peak cloud]

You may try taking a multimeter and seeing what the tabs are underneath before doing that, though.

Have a pic of the underside of the PCB?

[brave panther]

"Alexa, turn on the space heater."
"Okay."
"And turn on the heated blanket."
"Okay."
15A, yes please.

ummm

[peak cloud]

Majority of the time the correct pins are exposed via PCB.

[brave panther]

yeah. problem is the gross abundance of crap in the way too 🙂

[peak cloud]

Touché

[brave panther]

and to even get the board off the plastic, have to unsolder the line, neutral, and earth pins. they really engineered these to be not-user-friendly.

bottom of the board is just leads and couple vias. nothing interesting.

[peak cloud]

In that case, it does seem much easier to remove the shield and flash the chip directly then.

A handful of solid 28awg wires, some solder, a soldering iron, and a USB/TTL adapter and you’re back in business.

[clear ferry]

Merry Christmas you filthy animals

[peak cloud]

Dude. Santa hasn’t slid down my chimney yet, therefore it is not Christmas yet!

[clear ferry]

Pff, you just live in the wrong timezone and celebrate on the wrong day

[peak cloud]

Speaking of...this Santa needs to get some rest. I’ve got three kiddos expecting me to be awake in a couple of hours. :/

[ocean mirage]

Happy holidays atxbyea

[clear ferry]

@ocean mirage how is life in the future?

[ocean mirage]

its aight

[clear ferry]

Give me the lotto numbers for this evening

[ocean mirage]

I am watching Die Hard

[peak cloud]

I am dreading tomorrow evening, but soooo looking forward to Christmas morning. There’s nothing better than seeing the happiness that overcomes your kids on Christmas morning.

[ocean mirage]

Lotto numbers are all 4

[clear ferry]

Mine is only 15 months so she is just, meh it's a tree, I've seen one before

[peak cloud]

Next year is going to bring so much joy to your life. 🥰🥰🥰

[ocean mirage]

Ill have to find some kids so I can experience it

[clear ferry]

[peak cloud]

G’night fellas.

[clear ferry]

FBI? Yes this post right here

[ocean mirage]

Aint no FBI here

[clear ferry]

State Emu Police?

Yeah, this Barbie right here

[ocean mirage]

Police cant make it

[clear ferry]

🚔

[ocean mirage]

all gone

[brave panther]

ended up breaking it even more. but is it even breaking it, if it's already broken? 😄

the shield was soldered all the way around. would've needed a reflow oven or some stupidly fine soldering iron tip (like 0.2mm)

ended up prying it off with a razor blade, stripping the copper from the board itself.

oh well. just have to be more careful with them. they're definitely not easily serviceable.

[clear ferry]

Hope you are far from the fires btw @tough igloo @hushed basalt @ocean mirage

[ocean mirage]

thanks m8, bout 40km or so from the nearest one thats been raging for weeks, no real danger though

massive one a bit further away too

its just been smoky as hell, staying indoors

[hushed basalt]

West coast

Fires are an easterner problem

[tough igloo]

Been bad in north eastern nsw for a while now. Most days are smokey

[clear ferry]

Hang out some meats @tough igloo

Free smoker

[midnight adder]

Hi all, Merry Christmas!

Does anyone know of a smart power strip extension (EU plugs) that integrates with Home Assistant?

[clever mortar]

#330944238910963714 might 😉

[peak cloud]

You know what really sucks?! BEING SICK ON CHRISTMAS!!!!!

[clever mortar]

Yes

I managed to avoid that for a few years - manging my stress levels better

This year, not so much

[peak cloud]

Well, stop yelling at people and maybe your stress levels will go down 😝

[clever mortar]

🤣

I'm not allowed to yell at work, not after the last incident

😛

[peak cloud]

But that’s funny you mention that — my stress levels have been rather high this December. And now I’m sick. Maybe a link there!

[clever mortar]

I clocked it some years back - when I was taking a break, my stress levels would drop, and my immune system would chill out

All the things it'd been holding off got free reign

[peak cloud]

There’s a new app that helps track moods, I may have to download it. Saw it on Reddit a few weeks back.

[clever mortar]

I've started meditating to help, and it has helped, but the last 6 months have been hella stressful at work

I hate to think how it'd have hit me if I hadn't been

[peak cloud]

The dev did a shameless self-plug with his data in r/dataisbeautiful — and oh, it was beautiful indeed.

Meditating, medicating...potato potahto

[clever mortar]

😄

[peak cloud]

(Embarrassing alert)

[clever mortar]

I always keep medication as a last resort, because I'm aware that my body can react atypically

[peak cloud]

Sometimes I accidentally say “stay home and meditate” in the RX lyrics of Theory of a Deadman.

[clever mortar]

🤣

[peak cloud]

I medicate daily — stupid chemical imbalances

[clever mortar]

Yeah, I have a few friends in that world

[peak cloud]

It’s not a fun world to be in sometimes.

[clever mortar]

No, but better sometimes than pretending it's not a problem

[peak cloud]

True. Very true.

[young sigil]

https://i.imgur.com/dF43fu3.jpg

[peak cloud]

slaps @light trout with a big slimy trout.

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ you @light trout!!!

[clever mortar]

https://giphy.com/gifs/justin-fish-slap-xT0BKGkoBW46ip9OvK

[peak cloud]

@obsidian burrow Figured this might fit into the current discussion over in #330944238910963714 😂

[obsidian burrow]

100% true

[dull chasm]

does any one use TIDAL to get hi res audio?

[clear ferry]

Wife bought me an extra present

[scenic radish]

That thing is YUGE

[clear ferry]

2.4 meturz

[peak cloud]

YUUUUUUUGE

Santa Tracker (https://santatracker.google.com) doesn't seem to work on Fire TV 😦

But https://www.noradsanta.org/ does! Woot!

[obsidian burrow]

I tried tidal, but, honestly I couldn't get it to play reliably on my sonos sytem

so, i'

i'm just waiting for the free trial to expire

[clear ferry]

Spotify 4 lyfe

And subsonic for the stuff I can't find on other streaming services

[steel urchin]

holy hell.. first day i'v slept more than 4 hours in almost 2 weeks! Feelsgoodman.jpg

also, guess i'm giving up on this stupid RCON connection oddity.... no clue why this simple thing won't work

[unreal quarry]

Merry Christmas from New Zealand!

[clever mortar]

Merry Christmas

[clear ferry]

But you are in the future

Christmas was yesterday for you

[clever mortar]

[valid halo]

Happy Christmas

I hope that Tinkerer gets a day of no silly questions

[clever mortar]

Thank you, but we all know there's no chance of that

for a start, I'm married with kids...

[valid halo]

🙏

[clear ferry]

Love and marriage, love and marriage, it's an institute you can't disparage

[wet pilot]

Lol

Just finished my stint at driving

Did ~5 hrs, the lady is going to finish the last 1.25

[brave panther]

I drove to California and back in 2017, two 16 hour drives each way. Stopped in Colorado for a quick nap each way. Longest, but most beautiful, time I've ever spent in a car.

[clear ferry]

Driving home would be 21h nonstop for me

[wet pilot]

I used to be able to pull a 7hr drive after a full day of work but not so much these days

[dull chasm]

@obsidian burrow @clear ferry but niether of them two are hi res thou right

[clear ferry]

Well, subsonic can stream full quality, so if my downloads are the desired quality 😂

[steel urchin]

We did a 36 hour drive once to go to a wedding in Key West. Never again.

[hidden laurel]

@hexed magnet UAP-AC-LITE

[steel urchin]

oh man, finally home.... traffic is a BEATING in austin right now

[brave panther]

Pretty much the same. Crazies getting last minute gifts, getting to their families, etc

I bought 80% of my gifts the first week of December. 🙂 I HATE being stressed.

[steel urchin]

i just wanted to return stuff to kohl's to get to amazon lol

[brave panther]

hahaha

[steel urchin]

i'm not buying anyone anything this year... we've literally furnished a new home in the last 30 days, there's not much more i can buy that would make sense 🤣

[brave panther]

hey, take care of what's important. hope you installed CAT5 along the way 😄

[steel urchin]

nope

cat 6

[brave panther]

even better.

[steel urchin]

🤣

[brave panther]

fiber would be best but hey

[steel urchin]

and fiber to every room

[brave panther]

LOL

😄

[steel urchin]

don't have much use for that atm... but the ATT guy did it for free so i milked it

every room already has a gigabit switch, at this point my bottleneck are my disks on various systems

i stopped and got tamales from a lil food truck... can't wait to dive into them!

[hushed basalt]

Merry Christmas you stinkin animals

[steel urchin]

Man... I left the garage door open today, and I just thought "Oh, I can automate that!" ... except... stupid myq...

[scenic radish]

👎

[peak cloud]

Is myq integration acting up again?

[scenic radish]

OFF TOPIC REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[steel urchin]

off topic of lounge?

or.. what did i miss?

@peak cloud hmm maybe i spoke too soon then! i still need to mess with HA more than it detecting my zstick... In due time.. HOPEFULLY starting Thursday I can get on it

[peak cloud]

@nfgCodex#6697 off topic = I was asking if myq was acting up 😂

[steel urchin]

ah well that's my fault 😛

I was under the impression that myq was closed/proprietary based on how i've seen other integrations do it.. they literally assume ownership of your controller's serial number and add it to the myq system under their username (looking at YOU alarm.com)

[hushed basalt]

Wtf is myq

[valid halo]

MyQ is a company

that builds crummy garage automation items

I bought one and returned it a week later because the [REDACTED] PIECE OF [DATA EXPUNGED] CAN'T CONNECT EVEN RIGHT NEXT TO THE [EXPUNGED] ROUTER

[scenic radish]

so the other day I restarted FORBIDDEN TOPIC

[steel urchin]

yeah, it's integrated into the garage door operator we got with the new house

not a fan of wifi "smart" devices

esp ones that require working internet to operate

[scenic radish]

50% of the clients on my network are restricted to LAN only for that reason lol

[hushed basalt]

Can you just make your own garage door opener

Esp, relay, reed switch, esphome, done

[midnight adder]

on the topic of garage door openers, what is a good company/brand?

we just got a quote for a new motor 😅

i either need to learn how to wire my house with ethernet (i am not handy) or use wifi

[hexed magnet]

A small thing, but I worked out how to use macvlan to create docker containers with their own IP... So nice to not have to have so many custom HTTP/HTTPS port configurations to account for

[wet pilot]

Meh, I use a nginx container for ingress

[hexed magnet]

That's true you can do that too; in my case I wanted to also host a PiHole which kind of needs its own address

[hexed magnet]

Can anyone recommend a HA compatible sliding glass door lock? Preferably not wifi, like zwave/zigbee?

Actually I don't even really care that much about being able to lock it, I just want to know whether it's locked or not.

[wet pilot]

Dunno about locked, you could do open/closed easily enough

[scenic radish]

https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/659182739529924619

[steel urchin]

long shot, but anyone here a win10 app dev?

[scenic radish]

Don't let @clear ferry hear you say windows

Oh shit

[steel urchin]

i mean anyone that hates on an OS doesn't understand them

almost every OS has it's place

but i'm looking for specific help with networking to a win10 app.. i think i found the culprit of my issue but not sure what i'm doing when it comes to win10 apps

[hexed magnet]

@wet pilot Yeah, open closed would be pretty easy, might even be smarter to just leave the sliding glass door open and have it be alarmed when we're not home

At least then a burglar wouldn't break the glass

[wet pilot]

Yeah, locks don't really matter for a motivated criminal

[hexed magnet]

I guess I'm torn on the idea of whether someone would check the back door, then give up

Maybe if they saw the cameras and an alarm sticker, but I feel like yeah they'll just break the glass

[peak cloud]

@steel urchin I am hoping with the latest sign-on stuff in Home Assistant that we might be able to somehow get myq officially supported, similar to how Amazon Key is.

[steel urchin]

is that like a partnership or something?

or that there's a 'sign on' integration point in HA now?

[peak cloud]

That there is a “sign on” integration point in HA now. But I’m pretty sure myq won’t go for it, lol.

[steel urchin]

assuming you mean like an oauth provider or something similar..

with the convos i've had with myq, they aren't very tech savvy

their solution to my issue was to replace the controller board inside the unit

rather than fix a database issue

they weren't aware they had many many thousands of serial numbers associated with alarm.com's single user, either...

[hushed basalt]

@hexed magnet you could attach a small strong magnet to the lock lever

And put a reed switch near it

[peak cloud]

Ugh. Being Santa is so stressful, especially when the kids won’t go to sleep!!!

[wet pilot]

Or if you have one of the old school bracing bars you could put a door sensor on it

[hushed basalt]

Also electric deadbolts on top and bottom

[wet pilot]

@peak cloud

If you're not in bed asleep when santa comes to our house he'll end up skipping us!

[hushed basalt]

*asleep

Kids are like lawyers

[wet pilot]

Mm better

[hexed magnet]

Yeah both aren't bad ideas, the bracing bar is kind of interesting.

[clear ferry]

[clear ferry]

For those with kids, this movie is watched by kids every year the last 45 years in Norway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pinchcliffe_Grand_Prix?wprov=sfla1

Usually airs today

[peak cloud]

Is it a Christmas/holiday movie, or just airs around the same time?

[clear ferry]

There is some snow in it

But that's it 😂

The penultimate Norwegian Christmas movie is probably "Reisen til julestjernen*

And this movie is shown several times every Christmas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tři_oříšky_pro_Popelku?wprov=sfla1

[peak cloud]

The Christmas Chronicles is steadily making its way up on my list of favorite Christmas movies!

[steel urchin]

lol that's the "automation" my IQPanel has

i was looking for a heal function, but found that (and no healing)

[peak cloud]

Wow, that's way too advanced for me!

I think the kids finally fell asleep a little bit ago. I was finished setting everything up before they passed out. I got super lucky they didn't come out of the room. lol

[steel urchin]

it has association groups though, which is interesting, but confusing

i set group 2 up and when i turned the switch on it turned on the associated device

group 3 only acted when i double tapped the switch, but then it only controlled the associated device, and not the light attached to the switch

[peak cloud]

That's a nifty feature.

[steel urchin]

i was hoping to use the light switch as normal, then double tap would turn everything off

[peak cloud]

IQPanel = Z-Wave based?

[steel urchin]

it supports zwave and some wifi devices

it's garbage though

The option to shift and manage secondary controllers is interesting

[peak cloud]

And you said something about your Z-Stick not working still?

I think any Z-Wave device can be forced to leave a network and join a new network.

[steel urchin]

no it works, i tested a simple device on/off with it

i just.. haven't taken the leap yet

[peak cloud]

pushes you.

Now you don't have to take the leap, I did it for you!

[steel urchin]

haha i know.. Thursday I plan on going for it with a single switch... i'm trying to understand some things first...

[hushed basalt]

Air conditioner broke

On christmas day

[clear ferry]

Aussie problems

[valid halo]

Happy christmas

[clever mortar]

🎄

Merry Christmas

[clear ferry]

Ah, my homemade lambs leg turned out nice and salty

[eager crest]

is there anyone @36c3

[clear ferry]

36c3

Conference in Leipzig it seems

[eager crest]

yes

[boreal pewter]

Germania

[clear ferry]

Der Keiserreich?

[valid halo]

Guys guys guys

I got an Ifixit pro repair kit for the holiday

[peak cloud]

My gf is a total nerd.

This is one of the gifts she got me!

[scenic radish]

My fiancee got me the Origin of Muse boxset!

[valid halo]

Gift from my sister

[scenic radish]

Whew, good thing Ethernet was still working

[valid halo]

Nah. I used smoke signals to send this

[brave panther]

Thought for a sec that was a 3d print... Was gonna ask what the heck printed smoothness like that. 😄

@peak cloud That gift just shows how much they hate you. Installing that is a 1-2 hour process. Just did mine last night. Woot!

[valid halo]

SMH

"When buying 3D printer parts. Install them before hand and then give your recipient the empty box"

[brave panther]

HAHA

[valid halo]

It's just like Game Consoles

[brave panther]

Yeah it's like adult legos for real

[valid halo]

You update them FIRST

then give them to your cute kid

[brave panther]

"some assembly required"

"batteries not included"

[valid halo]

"Suitable for Ages 25-92"

[brave panther]

haha yeah i've seen that before. like what happens after 85? you just can't safely play with this toy?

[valid halo]

After 85 everything becomes food

smart switch? Food. 3D Printing Filiament? Food? Live Wires? Food.

[peak cloud]

Hahahah

@brave panther I don’t mind spending the time to install the BLTouch — any tips for it?

[scenic radish]

Once you install it, you're done

Please like and subscribe if you found this video helpful

[valid halo]

puts the pedal to the metal on that like button

[brave panther]

Honestly no tips really. It's not difficult, just a bit time consuming. You'll probably want to get a pin 27 breakout if you don't have one, else you're gonna have to cut into the ribbon cable and do some wire splicing and joining. So I guess that's a tip. 🙂

[valid halo]

I have 64 tips

[steel urchin]

RoboRock S50 on a major sale (cheaper than black friday) https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Global-Version-XIAOMI-Roborock-S50-MI_60622589841.html?spm=a2700.wholesale.deiletai6.10.30642c82AUeea6

I got it for $350 on black friday

[fallow galleon]

Does it suck or only sweep?

[steel urchin]

not sure if that's an honest question or not

it's a vacuum, as per the name and product genre

also mops

[midnight adder]

merry christmas, you filthy animals!

[steel urchin]

just injected the turkey!

whew... thought port 443 was blocked by my ISP, but forgot to hit save on port forwarding

[fallow galleon]

@steel urchin honest question. I know some robo vacuum doesn't do suction and only seep dirts into its bag

it mops!? now I'm seriously considering it

[shadow wren]

Guys... That's Alibaba

You have to order a minimum of 5

Alibaba is for buying large quantities of products

[valid halo]

Laymao

[scenic radish]

el ay em oh

[steel urchin]

oh damn, i didn't even notice that.. i was seeing aliexpress in my head

lol sorry for the confusion

but on that note, it's still $350 on gearbest where I got it from

one caveat is if you live outside of Eu, you'll want to get a shotgun plug (the style you see connected to small power bricks) for a few bucks (i got mine for like $4 on amazon)

[clear ferry]

Ordering from anywhere except China to Norway

[valid halo]

Aliexpress

For when you want to feel like it's the 80s and wait six to eight weeks for delivery

[smoky oxide]

nah, in the 80s you never know what you were gona get, these days its hardly any surprises

[scenic radish]

Norwat

[clear ferry]

I usually get stuff with 14 days, then the occasional 2 months happen

[steel urchin]

6-8 weeks??? I get stuff from aliexpress in usually 5 or 6 days

same for wish, etc.. all the cheap chinese e-retailers

i couldn't imagine buying something so expensive and waiting that long, my mind would go out of control

[clear ferry]

@fallow belfry yes you can, and home assistant questions are not allowed here, #330944238910963714

[steel urchin]

Lol thanks one plus for the Christmas gift

[scenic radish]

OnePlus 🤢

[steel urchin]

I like my one plus

[scenic radish]

Jk just imitating @clear ferry

[steel urchin]

Great dev hardware

[scenic radish]

I liked my 3T

[steel urchin]

Open to unlocking and rooting without jumping though hoops

[clear ferry]

🤢

[scenic radish]

But I wanted to go back to stock so I got a Pixel XL (2016)

Yeah they have their benefits for sure

[steel urchin]

I usually run nightly lineage, but I just got it last week and haven't had time

[clear ferry]

I looked at the oneplus last time I switched

Still went with the Huawei

[steel urchin]

And I lose WiFi calling on stock

[clear ferry]

Next time I will probably go Xiaomi though

[steel urchin]

Huawei are scoundrels though lol

Built in hardware phoning home

[scenic radish]

Got a pi 4 for Christmas (someone knows me too well) so I think I'm gonna install pivpn on it and set up a Tasker task to connect to it when I connect to any network other than my own

[steel urchin]

I feel xiamoi are about the same

[clear ferry]

Don't get into that discussion, or I'll bring up the us companies and then we both get banned 😛

[steel urchin]

Haha

[scenic radish]

BENNED

[clever mortar]

PiVPN is awesomely simple to set up

[peak cloud]

@clear ferry DO IT!!!!!!

[clear ferry]

[clever mortar]

Every government does stuff other governments view as shady... it's called that banned topic 😛

[clear ferry]

It's called Brexit?

[smoky oxide]

nah, only one gov is doing that dance 😛

[scenic radish]

@clever mortar seems like it. Would be nice to have for sure

[clever mortar]

I use it, in pretty much the way you're talking about

Connect to not an approved WiFi and it launches the VPN

[scenic radish]

Yeah I'm looking forward to getting it running

Then once pi4 supports USB boot I'll swap it with my 3B+ that I'm using for forbidden topic

[light trout]

#330990055533576204?

[scenic radish]

Hmm?

[clear ferry]

Or is he using it for hosting pictures of dogs

[scenic radish]

*cats

[clear ferry]

[scenic radish]

boots and cats and boots and cats and...

[clear ferry]

Oh I thought you said booty cat

My bad

[scenic radish]

😳

[hushed basalt]

Speaking of BANNED TOPIC
How good is that REDACTED

[clear ferry]

I prefer TOP SECRET STUFF

[scenic radish]

It's VERBOTEN

[clear ferry]

I'm stuck with a baby on top of my arm who doesn't want to sleep without said arm

But my swiping keyboard lives on

[wet pilot]

Lol winning

[clear ferry]

Will I manage to order a ZigBee stick in this position

[velvet horizon]

:8ball: 8Ball prdiction:

Question: will @clear ferry manage to order a Zigbee?
Answer: Outlook Not So Good

Command '.8ball' was invoked by: phnx

[clear ferry]

[valid halo]

atxbyea ends up ordering a Z-Wave Stick

and two light bulbs

the bulbs are zigBee

[scenic radish]

*bluetooth

[clear ferry]

Or ordering a lifetime license for Ubuntu

🤢

And proxmox

[scenic radish]

*WinRAR

[clear ferry]

Hey, I bought a WinZip license like 20 years ago

[valid halo]

"Dear Atxbyea, Your Wifi Radiation Blocker is on it's way!"

[steel urchin]

My body is ready

[hushed basalt]

I can't remember if my zigbee sticks came in or not

I forget what I bought, received and where I put it

Did I order it, if so did it arrive, if so where did I put it?

[polar relic]

Hey folks, looking for suggestions... We just got the kids each their own echo dots (bringing the total number of Alexa devices in the house to six). With that being the case, I need a solution that allows multiple people to stream music at the same time.

Any Spotify or Amazon Music subscribers out there who can chime in with some suggestions?

[fallow galleon]

spotify family allows 6 accounts

but actually....you don't necessary need premium

so just 6 accounts?

[polar relic]

That was our initial thought.. We did upgrade to the family plan, but it seems like only one account can be linked to our Amazon account. Is there some elegant way around that?

[steel urchin]

lol @hushed basalt that's why i made a spreadsheet

or rather, many

and trello boards 🤣

[peak cloud]

DARK MODE!!!

[steel urchin]

is it built-in?

[peak cloud]

I dunno. But that screenshot hurts my eyes lol

[steel urchin]

lol sorry for your eyes

i used to run stylish but after a while too many extensions is too many

[scenic radish]

Ugh you and @unreal orbit apparently have sensitive eyes

I have special eyes

[steel urchin]

although now that i've done most of my shopping i can get rid of some extraneous ones

probably on mobile, screen 5inches from the face, got a blast of 255,255,255 in the face

[scenic radish]

Lol

Nothing like some good #FFFFFF

[steel urchin]

or cmyk(0%, 0%, 0%, 0%)

[scenic radish]

Ew print

Reality

Gross

[steel urchin]

heh, it's a trillion dollar industry still

[scenic radish]

https://media.tenor.com/images/bd27b6c364ad5aa1c80e92fa2d9e45d5/tenor.gif

[steel urchin]

heh maybe not trillion really, but it's still pretty big

[wet pilot]

And printers are still awful

[steel urchin]

i did some stuff with AT&T for their flyers, billboards, billing, etc.... that shit is EXPENSIVE

one typo in a template cost 14 million

[scenic radish]

Yeah why tf are printers so frustrating

Even to us tech savvy people

[steel urchin]

patents

and trying to still be marketable by working around said patents

ie, compatible

it's like taking every language known to man, and trying to make a single language out of it... sometimes a language has a word or character that doesn't have parity in another language, and all hell breaks loose

[scenic radish]

Some days I'm about 🤏 to losing my shit with my printer

[steel urchin]

lol

[rapid cove]

epson?

[static schooner]

Must.post.link: https://youtu.be/dLk-3HPS12Q

[steel urchin]

actually we got a crappy lil hp 3830 for like $30... hp gives free ink now if you only print 15 pages or less a month... scans, copies, prints color... wireless. linux(cups)/win/osx all picked it up immediately without any work on our part

[brisk glen]

Stop buying HP printers 🖨 @scenic radish

Those little fuckers make me loose my shit

[wet pilot]

I have a 10 year old brother laser mfp that is still kicking

[scenic radish]

@brisk glen how did you know

[brisk glen]

I work with HP printers from time to time at my job

Add 3rd party cheap ink and well....

[steel urchin]

i never bothered with 3rd party stuff... always seemed like a racket

[wet pilot]

It's all a racket

[hushed basalt]

I think sometimes it's cheaper to just buy half a dozen tablets than to deal with printers and toner and paper sometimes

[wet pilot]

Truth

I only really use my printer once a year for paper backups of my tax forms

In addition to the pdf copy

[steel urchin]

I was only using it for Amazon return labels lol

[wet pilot]

Lol

[steel urchin]

Turns out they now let you drop off at Kohl's for free, and don't need to pack a thing

[clear ferry]

@wet pilot the 8ball was right, the baby started moving and I wasn't able to order

[hushed basalt]

@clear ferry get them a dummy keyboard

Works every time. 60% of the time.

[twilit vortex]

Today is a good day to convert my Linux server docker machine to something running Proxmox with a hass.io, ubuntu server and PfSense VM in it 😋

[clear ferry]

Proxmox, Ubuntu 🤢

[twilit vortex]

I have 0 experience with Proxmox and my ubuntu stuff is only used to run dockers, nothing more.

[clever mortar]

Running containers inside a VM, what could go wrong...

[twilit vortex]

Not much i hope 😂

Lots of people run hass.io in a vm right, which also uses native docker for the addons? Or is that some different version of docker?

[light trout]

Nope, is the same

[clear ferry]

@clever mortar let's do nested hypervisors and then enable docker inside docker

[velvet horizon]

Tinkerer is away for 7m 4s with a message :point_right: The path to wisdom does, in fact, begin with a single step. Where people go wrong is in ignoring all the thousands of other steps that come after it.

[clear ferry]

For science

[twilit vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/yeahscience-breakingbad-jesse-pinkman-aaron-paul-gif-5567123

[hushed basalt]

@clever mortar containers get used in vms all the time :D

[velvet horizon]

Tinkerer is away for 31m 8s with a message :point_right: The path to wisdom does, in fact, begin with a single step. Where people go wrong is in ignoring all the thousands of other steps that come after it.

[hushed basalt]

Google are the anomoly who do bare metal containers and no vms. Internally

[clever mortar]

TBH, if you know what you're doing/can RTFM and Google, it's fine. There just seems to be a lot of folks who struggle

[clear ferry]

PEBKAC is strong in people

[hushed basalt]

In sommeee ways it's easier to run docker in vms

Disposable OSes

Screw up, start again, rinse repeat

[clever mortar]

Oh yes, I run Docker in a VM here

You just have to pay attention

[hushed basalt]

I want to set up coreOS on my cluster but wayy too much time investment

Need PXE services and split dns and just sigh

[clear ferry]

Mmmm pxe

So nice when it works

So crap when your have to troubleshoot it

[clever mortar]

True, but ... troubleshooting that is what absolutely hooked me on IT

[clear ferry]

I thought that would be troubleshooting radio tubes, or punch cards

[clever mortar]

The second is easy - set fire to them to clear all bugs

For the first, apply 480V or above to reset their internal state

[clear ferry]

[dull chasm]

blasphemy

[clever mortar]

Having been "tickled" by incorrectly earthed dual-phase kit... I can tell you that it's an experience I never want to repeat

[clear ferry]

TI Are efficient

They have already sent my cc1352

[dull chasm]

Delta legs are magic

[clear ferry]

Is that what you call your wife

[dull chasm]

LOL no worse than that

[clear ferry]

Theta legs?

[dull chasm]

get on topic

🤣

[clear ferry]

Mmmmmm

Bastard leg

That'll be it

[dull chasm]

yep

i am mad at her ....she got new tv for bedroom and i did not get Outlaw 5000 amp or Kliscph rear atmos speakers

[clear ferry]

Dayyyym woman, ya upset daddy, imma gonna go sobbin in mah room 🐊

[dull chasm]

i know right .... i need channels 10 and 11 for sourond sound

[clever mortar]

She's probably waiting until you can fit the 18 yards of soundproofing to stop the neighbouring state complaining 😛

[dull chasm]

HEY

they like sound too

[clever mortar]

😂

[clear ferry]

You have neighbors?

[clever mortar]

Not any more, they moved after his last speaker upgrade 😄

[clear ferry]

Does it count when they are 50 miles away @dull chasm ?

[dull chasm]

LOL

amps arent that loud

new amp will do 150x5

[clear ferry]

150 miles in five directions?

Sign me up

[dull chasm]

channels

duh

[clear ferry]

[dull chasm]

yamaha does not give watts per channel with all 9 driven but its gotta be close to 800 to 1k plus two subs that do 150 each

[clear ferry]

HELLO, WHAT DID YOU SAY

[dull chasm]

words

hello

earth calling

[clear ferry]

Calling occupants of interplanetary craft

[dull chasm]

@clever mortar fried the tubes ....

[clever mortar]

😦

I didn't fry them, I "warmed them up"

I'd have needed oil to fry them 😛

[dull chasm]

i gotta mount tv on the wall today .....what fun

[clear ferry]

Just put the tubes in batter and fry them

Like a proper Scotsman

[clever mortar]

😂

Pizza crunch

[hushed basalt]

My friend doesn't have internet at his house 🤢

As in he can't get it

[clever mortar]

That sucks

Clearly needs to move, or pay an arm, two legs, and a handful of kidneys to get it installed

[hushed basalt]

AuStRaLiA bUilDiNg tHe NeTwOrK oF thE 21St ceNturY

There's internet a street away

[clever mortar]

A bit like the UK, only we don't have your fires geography to blame

[hushed basalt]

Which is total bull anyway

The street level stuff is where all the work is

And that's pretty much identical in all anglosphere countries

Obviously there's rural stuff which is a different matter

But if you have gas, water, sewage, electricity, garbage services, you should expect internet

[clear ferry]

But nobody expects the Spanish internetquisition

[scenic radish]

HELLO, WHAT DID YOU SAY
is this another UDP joke?

[brisk glen]

looks like most people didn't get it

[scenic radish]

heh

[clear ferry]

MORE LIKE A COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF WATTAGE JOKE

[wary mica]

just wrote my first long post in the forums! Managed to figure out a few things that I hope someone smarter can come along and assist others with 😄

[clear ferry]

Mmmm, classic Christmas television on Norwegian broadcasting now

[tidal bronze]

@dull chasm sounds like fun. I am actually pulling the entire ceiling down today in family room. Adding ATMOS there as well and some accent lighting.

[clear ferry]

Chess for five days

[honest reef]

Anyone here got the Tuya PIR sensor? For the life of my I can't get it to pair using the app

[clear ferry]

If possible, I would go tuya convert

[honest reef]

that bad hey?

[clear ferry]

Cloud stuff 🤢

[honest reef]

Ah, yeh something we can agree on lol

[clear ferry]

Mm 6 hours of live chess every day

[wet pilot]

@tidal bronze that's on my list to do at some point

[clear ferry]

-7c outside

[wet pilot]

Above freezing in the DC area

[clear ferry]

I'm not going to bother wiring up any new speakers unless I buy a new house 😛

Which I might the next few years

[wet pilot]

The living room already has two speakers in the ceiling but one of them is in the wrong place 😒

So I'm running a 4.1 system right now 😛

[clear ferry]

Hello, 1989, yeah this guy right here

He's taking about 4.1

[tidal bronze]

@wet pilot this is my second atmos planning to to master bedroom in a few months as well. It's worth it. 😀

[wet pilot]

FL,C,FR,RR,SW

[clear ferry]

I've been looking at a 5500sqft Tirol house, if I buy it I would probably do something like that

All my bulbs are coming with me atleast 😂

[wet pilot]

Haha

I'll probably take all my zwave crap but we're a few years from moving

[clear ferry]

Yeah, we have lived here for 10 years, but if I start working in the global team with home office I'll move North

[wet pilot]

I'd have to talk to the realtor to see if leaving it in would be beneficial at all

further north? 😱

[clear ferry]

Oslo is pretty far south, so yes, Harstad would be further north 😛

[tidal bronze]

Living I run 7.2.4, this install will be 7.1.4. Master will be 5.1.2

[wet pilot]

My living room rears are already in the ceiling so I'm probably not going to bother with Atmos there

[scenic radish]

damn son

i've got my pumpin' 2.1 setup, try not to be jelly

[tidal bronze]

@wet pilot front/mid presence makes the biggest difference specially for spatial awareness

[wet pilot]

Fair enough. I might think about it more as I get closer to actually doing it

[tidal bronze]

What avr ?

[wet pilot]

I have an overhead fan in the room so it makes placement tricky

An older pioneer that doesn't support Atmos 😛

[tidal bronze]

As long as you are not running the fan 😀

[wet pilot]

It's due for replacement

It's a 7.2 box but HDMI 1.4

[tidal bronze]

Copy. With angled ceilings placement won't be a big issue.

[wet pilot]

My fronts are bi-amped though

I kinda wanna pick up some towers that support atmos

[tidal bronze]

Tried that initially, meh

https://www.klipsch.com/products/reference-in-ceiling-speakers

CDT-5800-C II

[scenic radish]

4️⃣ ✈️

[young sigil]

Freakin lazers https://youtu.be/ozIKwGt38LQ

[clever mortar]

Yeah, that was discussed, what, a month or so back?

My bad, almost two 😄

[scenic radish]

https://tenor.com/view/sharkswithlaserbeams-gif-6019545

sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads

[young sigil]

Ah I'm a bit

slow

[scenic radish]

we'll just have to call you IE or Edge 😉

[young sigil]

browsers!

[clever mortar]

@midnight adder Please read the channel topic and post where the question is on topic 😉

I'd suggest maybe #330944238910963714 or #general-archived

[clear ferry]

I've got a pair of Snell speakers I bought for $30

Probably some of the best speakers I've ever had

Snell E.5 towers

Apparently they were $1500 new

I just checked an ad for identical speakers

[scenic radish]

wut

🐌

[clear ferry]

[scenic radish]

💲 🐌 ❓

[wet pilot]

‼️

[clear ferry]

[scenic radish]

this is so weird, it feels like spring outside...

60F (15.5C) in chicago right now

[clear ferry]

Just keep denying global warming then

[scenic radish]

oh don't worry, i'm aware climate change is a thing lol

[clear ferry]

I'm a major cause according to my wife

[scenic radish]

too many farts?

[clear ferry]

With my terrible farts

🌬️

[wet pilot]

Pouring rain in Phoenix, Arizona and snow in the grand canyon. That weather is heading to you @scenic radish

[scenic radish]

nooooooooooooo

[clear ferry]

Getting down to -12c tonight here

[clear ferry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/food/comments/efy90o/homemade_my_gingerbread_crime_scene_inspired_by/

[scenic radish]

@forest edge 🐟

let's take a vote with reactions. 🍺 or 🥃?

[wet pilot]

2 beers

Counts as a double vote

[last dirge]

anybody get anything neat?

[clever mortar]

Whisky

Technically it comes neat 😛

[clear ferry]

Lagavulin please

[clever mortar]

I should have some of that

[scenic radish]

@last dirge raspberry pi 4 (4GB) and origin of muse boxset

wbu

[clear ferry]

It's nice, both the 10yo and the QC

[last dirge]

cool

I got some cash and a Sega Genesis MIni

[proper swift]

my xmas isn't until saturday.. wife is out of town. hoping for a soldering station...

[last dirge]

probably going to buy something exciting with the cash like a robot vacuum

[clear ferry]

@scenic radish origin of muse, guy built midipad into guitar, made heavy rock with some political undertones, pwn

Could have saved you money there pal

😛

[proper swift]

I wonder if anyone sells/makes/has instructions for a wifi sniffer.....

[clear ferry]

Ekahau or bust

[last dirge]

my wife bought me a Tesla

jacket

[scenic radish]

heh

[last dirge]

already have a Tesla 😉

[scenic radish]

i want a girl with a short skirt and a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong

jacket

[proper swift]

I'm trying to come up with a way to hack these lame cloud-connected wifi toys i have like the washing machine.....

[last dirge]

I have to go to hazard fraught later and get a right angle adapter for my drill

[scenic radish]

@proper swift wireshark?

[last dirge]

then I can install my stairwell illuminators tomorrow

[scenic radish]

or tshark if you want a command line tool

(that's what i use)

[proper swift]

@scenic radish Well.. eventually.. but the issue is I don't want the darn things connecting out, so I don't want to fully configure them.. though.. I imaginethey will just instantly dhcp..

[scenic radish]

restrict them to LAN only on your router?

[clear ferry]

The Mac address will for sure be on the device

[proper swift]

Like.. usually you use some app to give them wifi creds.. ooooohhh... I can buy a second AP....

[clear ferry]

Make a reservation

Block that address to reach the internet

Presto

[proper swift]

if I get an AP, wire it straight to a PI, then they are stuck

or set the PI as an AP

[clear ferry]

Probably the device won't complete the Wizard without internet anyway

So won't matter

[proper swift]

right.. perfect.. I just want to get it on the network, and then start nmapping it for ports

I need more pi's

[clear ferry]

Not really

Pis aren't the answer to everything

😛

[proper swift]

I have one of those LG thinq washers, and a Rheem water heater. I want to figure out how to talk to the raw device, not the foul cloud of hate.

[clever mortar]

MITM

[scenic radish]

ATTACK

[last dirge]

I'm startin with the man in the middle

I'm asking him to change his ways

[clear ferry]

Wouldn't worry about putting either of those online

[last dirge]

no message could've been any clearer

[clear ferry]

And just sniff all traffic

[last dirge]

if you wanna wash your clothes just hack away and write it yourself commit the

change

[forest edge]

@scenic radish http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/fighting/face-slap.gif

[proper swift]

I'm never sure if the stupid things will lock out a raw port once they see the cloud

I'm not sure how to factory reset a washing machine....

[clear ferry]

It's in the manual

For sure

[scenic radish]

turn on for 8 seconds and off for 2 seconds. turn on for 8 seconds and off for 2 seconds. turn on for 8 seconds and off for 2 seconds. turn on for 8 seconds and off for 2 seconds. turn on for 8 seconds and off for 2 seconds. turn on for 8 seconds and off for 2 seconds. turn on for 8 seconds and off for 2 seconds. turn on for 8 seconds and off for 2 seconds. finally, turn on for 2 seconds.

[clever mortar]

Then realise that it should have been 2.5 seconds, and try again

[scenic radish]

for those who aren't familiar... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BB6wj6RyKo

[proper swift]

wow. that's obnoxious

[forest edge]

that is just dumb lol

[scenic radish]

yes it is lol

[proper swift]

I guess it's better than doing on/off morse code to say "RESET"

[scenic radish]

think of how many flash write cycles you're using by doing this 😱

[forest edge]

turn off for two seconds, turn on for 2 seconds, turn off and throw away

[scenic radish]

scream, cry, curse GE, throw away

[static schooner]

When I first saw that I (reasonably) thought it was a joke

[clear ferry]

I love that there is a difference between E14 and e27 IKEA bulbs

The E14 ones require a faster on off

Took me a while to figure it out

I was almost losing my mind

[steel urchin]

cold turkey sandwiches for lunch! MMMmmmMMmm

[forest edge]

#lunch

[clear ferry]

Lunch at 10:50pm

You savages

[scenic radish]

Lunch at 15:51
You savages

[clear ferry]

[steel urchin]

it was technically 15:51 at the time, but i also woke up at 14:30 😛

[clear ferry]

Savage

I used to sleep to 9am on workdays

[steel urchin]

meh, i just don't really sleep

after 20 years of working 100+hr weeks i can't keep to a schedule very well

[clear ferry]

Then I got a kid, now i get up at 6am usually

[steel urchin]

i literally live by a calendar, or i'd completely ruin any interactions with the real world

[clear ferry]

Interaction?

Real world?

[steel urchin]

lol

yeah like tomorrow i have 4 repair guys all scheduled at once so i can get them in and out asap and go back to bed if needed

[clear ferry]

Interact with other people 🤢

[hushed basalt]

My kid wakes up at 5.15

😿

[clear ferry]

Mine sometime between 5.30 and 8.30

She goes to bed sometime between 7 and 8 every night

[hushed basalt]

Never after 6

Never

She goes to bed at 6.30 too

[clear ferry]

But I usually carry her over to my bed between 11 and 2 😂

[hushed basalt]

Mine hasn't done that for a while

She sleeps through every night now

[midnight adder]

can somebody help me with HACS

[wet pilot]

#609399695466430465

[hushed basalt]

Can't knock her plate off the tray if she doesn't have a plate

[wet pilot]

Lol pretty much

[hushed basalt]

https://media.tenor.com/images/3b1215c6805596e6626d2c3ae7e6c967/tenor.gif

[wet pilot]

Our tray has a removable layer that we can wash separately

[hushed basalt]

I find the ikea one pretty easy to wipe down

[midnight adder]

long live ikea

[scenic radish]

So I have a couple of the insignia smart plugs that now no longer work after Best buy killed their smart home platform. However, I noticed when you connect to the SSID they broadcast that there's a captive portal at 192.168.0.1. I can connect it to my network, but then it tries to connect to the cloud and obviously fails. It then complains and disconnects from the network. I'm thinking I could use Wireshark to find what URL it's trying to reach and create a DNS entry that resolves to something else on my network to see if it will accept that as connected.

Is this dumb? I don't even care about the plugs, I'm just having fun messing around lol

[wet pilot]

Might be worth opening one up to see what the hardware is

[scenic radish]

I can definitely do that. I read somewhere that it's not an ESP unfortunately, but I'm not sure if they cracked one open or just looked at the FCC docs

They're HomeKit compatible and I could connect them to HomeKit Python at one point, but not anymore since it drops the connection after failing to connect to the cloud

[wet pilot]

Bestbuy likely used someone else's hardware to make these

[scenic radish]

Oh yeah I'm sure they did. Guess I'll have to take a look

My first thought was tuya-convert but not if it's not an ESP

Was pleasantly surprised to see a captive portal. I connected to the network, saw the subnet was 192.168.0.x and figured "hell, might as well try 1" lol

[valid halo]

Yo gang

my I Fix It Kit came in handy at work today

[scenic radish]

gang gang

[valid halo]

Tho my coworker called me a Dork for bringing in the whole kit

He's mean

[scenic radish]

Well guess what. You can fix shit

And they can't

So fuck him

[valid halo]

They actually needed a spudger today anyways lmao

A laptop I was opening to swap ram was being stubborn

so we got to use one of those lil guitar picks

[scenic radish]

Oooh

Good work

[valid halo]

and um the Anti-Static Strap was nice

I've developed a Pavlovian aversion to touching metal at work from constant static shocks

[wet pilot]

That's one of those things that you don't really need until you do and you usually find out too late

[valid halo]

also sometimes I'll touch laptops and -bzzt-

and i'm like "fuck!"

[midnight adder]

Yay I got my rpi 4 setup with interface bonding on eth0 + wlan0 and dynamic failover - I wire it to my gateway or I can unplug it and carry it around the house to do zigbee pairings. Connected to an Anker 26800 mAH power bank, it runs for more than a day.

[valid halo]

2.6 Watt Hours

Nice

Oh wait

no

I had a dumb

[scenic radish]

🐟

[valid halo]

2.6 Amp Hours?

[wet pilot]

26.8AH

[valid halo]

x_x

[scenic radish]

2.6 is 2600mAh

[valid halo]

returns my CompTIA A+ card

[wet pilot]

I hate that trend of measuring all batteries in mAH to make a bigger number look better

[scenic radish]

Just like when you shave and suddenly you gained a free inch!

Wait

[valid halo]

"This Battery has 100,000 mAH"

SO MUCH

[proper swift]

it's just kilobytes and 1000-bytes all over again

[valid halo]

This reminds me of

Megabits and Megabytes with Internet Providers

[scenic radish]

Ugh and that one guy who was charged $0.02/kB instead of $0.0002/kB like his contract said and the service rep couldn't tell the difference

Lemme find that frustrating video

[wet pilot]

Or "unlimited gigs!" For cell phone plans

[valid halo]

UNLIMITED GIGS!~ (Throttled after 20GB to 5 kilobits a second)

[wet pilot]

Except they say "2g speeds" because most don't know what that actually is

[scenic radish]

Here it is: https://youtu.be/MShv_74FNWU

[proper swift]

wasn't the "scam" that back in the old days 2400 baud included the stop bits?

[thick dragon]

Haha, that's pretty funny.

[green inlet]

https://youtu.be/ozIKwGt38LQ

Not posting this for awareness........cause kick in the door or throw a brick though the window. Posting it cause it is kinda cool@and informational.

[proper swift]

it's like the old trick in the 90's everyone was terrified of where you could read a hard drive remotely via EMF

[valid halo]

This reminds me of those "Hackers can use microphones to hack your computer from listening to the fan noise"

from a year or so ago

[livid imp]

the fine line between being a genius or a complete moron

[proper swift]

I worked at a place that built their datacenter in a faraday cage because they were terrified of EMF leaking out

[amber bramble]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/efzyq9/management/

[wet pilot]

That's a good one

[scenic radish]

alright so i dumped the network traffic to and from that smart plug and it looks like it sends out a bunch of mDNS requests and a request to http://ns-sp1xm8-f4774967-device.aylanetworks.com/ before giving up and releasing its IP address

opened it up and it appears to be this wifi module: https://fccid.io/NHS-WSDB750GN/User-Manual/User-Manual-Rev-01-160728-3082657

so yeah, no ESP 😦

[wet pilot]

Lame

[proper swift]

it drops it's IP?

[scenic radish]

yeah after it can't connect to the cloud (since the service is discontinued) it releases its IP

then i have to manually reconnect it to the network through the captive portal

so it doesn't allow local access without a cloud connection apparently, at least for onboarding

[proper swift]

can you fake a dns for that to point to nothing?

well.. or a random web server

super lame

[scenic radish]

yeah i was gonna try that next. time for xbox tho lol

[proper swift]

also try nmapping it while you have the ip

[flat lintel]

https://forums.wyzecam.com/t/alleged-data-breach-12-26-2019/79046

Wyze May have been breached

[scenic radish]

@proper swift only 80 is open

Problem is I can't connect them to the app anymore to sniff the traffic

Once I set up a DNS entry to go somewhere else I'll see if it stays connected, and if it does, try to pair it to HomeKit Python

No need to try to reverse engineer a local protocol when it already supports one

[steel urchin]

well i just lugged about 400lbs of stone about 150ft and now i'm 💩'd

[scenic radish]

humblebrag

[valid halo]

You could have used your home automation system to do it

Just buy a Child from Stork Co.

They can lift upto 80lbs

and live off Fruit Loops and human misery

[steel urchin]

lol braggin i'm broken?

[scenic radish]

What kind of stone? CM11? Roofing ballast?

[steel urchin]

i honestly don't know, something along the lines of this

stole it from the builder 🤣

well, with permission, so not really stealing.. just took it from their dumping spot

it's a tad whiter... and some really cool black bricks (like your typical brick footprint)

[scenic radish]

"borrowed"

[steel urchin]

well it's a good thing, cuz we're almost over 2019 and i got my workout in

lol jk, this whole move has been a workout

[scenic radish]

Nice looking stone though

[steel urchin]

yeah, gonna lay a few at the fence gate so the dogs can't dig out (they always tend to do that at the fence, and no where else) and use the black bricks with some of that stone to make an area for the wifey to put her planters

[cosmic lily]

Poor Wyze

They got fucked by the chinese

[proper swift]

ughh. hadashboard looks neat but I'm not sure I feel like writing 20k lines of yaml config for it...

[last dirge]

this is friggin nuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DqqeQSYTJQ

sometimes I trip on my own feet when I walk

and she's over here singing, playing two 3d keyboards, handling several pads, sequencers, and loop controllers

[steel urchin]

yeah my buddy has that keyboard.. the way he makes that thing sound is insane

she's really good

[thick dragon]

Wyze breach could be super scary :S

[cosmic lily]

yea, they are screwed

[wet pilot]

seems like they're on top of it at least

[cosmic lily]

On top of it after the fact

[wet pilot]

and its currently unsubstantiated

its a lot more positive of a response than ring

[cosmic lily]

A few days ago, it was reported that a Chinese government sponsored hacking group managed to hack 2FA and was actively attempting to break in to numerous institutions. 2-3 days later, Wyze gets "hacked". Maybe I'm a pessimist, but this can't be just a coincidence

[wet pilot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

cloud services

[cosmic lily]

yep. cloud services

And now I'm nervous about my Nest and Genie cloud service

[wet pilot]

nest was apparently super insecure, that's why google opted to kill that api

[cosmic lily]

Wonder if that means I have reason to worry. I'm still using the old API key

[wet pilot]

prolly

if that key gets out there

[cosmic lily]

I've been good about sequestering my secrets.yaml file

[wet pilot]

cloud services 😄 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[scenic radish]

Just don't be like that one guy on the forum the other day that leaked his Gmail credentials

And lat/long with 5 sig figs

[wet pilot]

rofl

waldo on the page

[scenic radish]

Lol yup

Specific stripe almost

[wet pilot]

this grain of sand

[cosmic lily]

wow, really?

[scenic radish]

Yup

Flagged it and tinkerer removed the original since they edited it more than 5 min after making the post

And you could just view the history lol

He posted his entire config

Was not using secrets

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/homeassistant-wont-starts-after-update/156849

[forest edge]

Genie cloud service getting hacked? lol by who?

[scenic radish]

Me

The hacker known as 4chan

[forest edge]

TediGenieHackerore?

[cosmic lily]

lol, no

was just wondering if they are next

[scenic radish]

They are

Hacking them rn

[forest edge]

in all honesty the more of these cloud services get hacked the more likely future services will provide a local alternative option so that sales aren't tanking

[scenic radish]

ssh [e-mail]

I'm in

[cosmic lily]

hahahahaha

[forest edge]

then you find out that genie.com is just a toliet paper monitoring service provided for Ukraine

go you lol

[scenic radish]

I can't unsee what I've seen

[forest edge]

wow people are freaking out over at wyze

[cosmic lily]

are you surprised? Wyze is the cheapest provider of web enabled cameras on the market.

[forest edge]

this wasn't a hack as much as someone just leaving a back door open

[cosmic lily]

The public won't interpret it that way

[forest edge]

oh they aren't lol

[cosmic lily]

😄