the-water-cooler

[hearty depot]

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 looks like it have an decent speed compared to the price...

[orchid rose]

depends on what you do. Intel is still probably the best choice for a pure gaming pc

[hearty depot]

have an I5-7600K in front of me Was until my AiO died decent enough

but finding an proper 1155 mainboard is getting hard

[orchid rose]

motherboards tend to die long before the cpus so the used market ends up unbalanced after a few years

[hearty depot]

AMD ll use the AR4 socket at least untill next year

chances are high that I go for the amazon choice..
https://amzn.to/34sA4DP (mainboard)
https://amzn.to/34yYCL4 (processor)
then only a cooler would be missing

would love this one after LinusTechtipps hold it up high

https://amzn.to/2ZUvN8E

[hearty depot]

f. it.. bourght it.. but the Ryzen 7 3700x
after its sent by amazon directly

[rapid musk]

Is anyone aware of a device that will accept an HDMI signal with a network RJ45 port on it that will then forward the signal across my local intranet?

Kind of like the HDHomerun does with over the air TV signals...

[clever mortar]

You can get extenders that'll extend it over an RJ45 cable, but not over a network that I know of

[rapid musk]

Trying to just think out of the box for my wife. She wants to be able to monitor the security cameras from in the house, not from the Blue Iris server in the shop. I can always buy another Blue Iris license, but if theres a work around, that'd be sweet!

[valid halo]

Ah Blue Iris

I remember I tried that

it was neat

[rapid musk]

It's definitely legit, but there has to be a way to distribute that feed over my network lol

Which would also prevent excess data usage since its local

There is a web server, but that ties into the data usage factor

Remote desktop, meh

[valid halo]

Hmmmm

I'm assuming the server has no video out?

[rapid musk]

It does, its streaming to the monitor out in the shop. I've already played around and split the HDMI signal and sent it to the TV in the shop...but man, over the network would be legit, since the whole house is wired cat6 already

[valid halo]

Aaaaah.

[rapid musk]

I just need an HDHomerun with an HDMI in, instead of coax lol

Shows up on any of the networked smart TV's in the house.

I guess the extender makes most sense, just figured there’s a better mousetrap

NewTek Connect Spark

Only 5 bills ha

next

[amber bramble]

newtek/NDI stuff is crazy expensive

[rapid musk]

I just pulled the trigger on some cable matters extenders. Should work just fine.

[hushed basalt]

Is there a way to view the cameras over IP

Like I can view our cameras on the apps/rtsp

I can also add them into homeassistant

[dull chasm]

dont understand that is ip

[valid halo]

Uh

IU think what you need

is a device that grabs the RTSP feed

and has a video output that can plug into the TV

yes?

[brisk glen]

@rapid musk you are looking into HDBaseT

[rapid musk]

Never heard of it

[brisk glen]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDBaseT

Unless you basically want to multicast a tv signal

But if you just want to monitor camera feeds, there are many other far better solutions

Such as having motioneye connect to the cameras

[rapid musk]

FML, where was that when I ran 8 50’ HDMI cables in my crawl space a few years back haha

That’s legit it provides power too. Dang, always something better out there

[brisk glen]

Usually I do a ip camera with POE

[rapid musk]

How does a modern TV with a built in transformer handle the power coming in the network interface?

[brisk glen]

The tv does not handle it, a box does

[rapid musk]

All my cams are PoE wired to a Ubiquiti switch

[brisk glen]

So then what is your end goal again?

[rapid musk]

Just to distribute the blue iris servers console footage to additional monitors in the house.

[brisk glen]

Far easier to use something like motioneye central server and listen on the stream via a web browser

[rapid musk]

But that was BEFORE you came in and dropped that bomb. Maybe I’ll get rid of all my HDMI cables and that awful 8 port splitter in my crawl space

Is the web browser local? Or remote?

As in data usage or no?

[brisk glen]

Local

[dull chasm]

so is blue iris web server

[brisk glen]

Run motioneye on a pc at home

Or that

There is no need to redesign everything

[rapid musk]

Supposedly these extenders I bought, the transmitter can be plugged into the switch and all the network drops are capable of receiving the stream with a receiver on the other end of the drop

The blue iris web server, from my understanding, is only accessible using my outside world IP with the configured port added, and the correct credentials. I don’t see how that wouldn’t use data, even if the console viewing is in the local intranet

I haven’t tried accessing it using the local up

[dull chasm]

localipofmachine:port

[rapid musk]

Up

IP*

Shit, I’m gonna feel stupid if that works

[dull chasm]

i know it will

i use it

[brisk glen]

Heh

[rapid musk]

Dammit! Haha

Thanks guy. Now to keep the extenders or return to amazon once they arrive

Hmm

[dull chasm]

return get something usefulll LOL

[rapid musk]

Now if I can just figure out where the timeout setting for UI3 are on the server

Maybe it won’t time out on local like it was on the outside IP

Although I do dig the idea of having any display in the house able to show the cams

[brisk glen]

Forget computers, I can view any camera from my phone

[rapid musk]

And I can as well, but having it on display would be handy. We both have the blue iris app installed on our phones. Notifications, clips, the whole 9 yards

And nope, even the local web server stream times out. Gotta find that setting in the server

To “save resources”. They’re my resources...locally

[storm summit]

I wonder if there will be new bugs found if hass can ever reload its config without restarting. My uptime. https://www.screencast.com/t/Ua5va0Ov

[cosmic lily]

panic is simultaneously watching ha.log and OZW.txt when suddenly all of your automations and buttons start firing off for seemingly no reason.

Apparently, that is how my wife figures out which Homekit button adjusts the hallway light...

For a brief moment, my house looked like a scene out of Close Encounter of the Third Kind.

[clear ferry]

[spare vault]

is there someone using adguard ad blocker here?

do you know if it blocks youtube ads?

[clear ferry]

Did you even try Google? 😛

Adguard YouTube, only search words you need

[ocean mirage]

It even works if you google "is there someone using adguard ad blocker here? do you know if it blocks youtube ads?"

[boreal pewter]

I found pihole simplier and fancier tho

[ocean mirage]

I run pihole and use brave browser, between it its pretty solid

[clear ferry]

I enjoy commercials!

What is insane though is watching kids stuff on YouTube, my daughter was watching the night garden on YouTube the other day, in the iPad app it was every 3 minutes, for a 30 minute episode, on Roku it is only before the first episode, after that it will play for 7 hours without any commercials

[orchid rose]

we thank you and your daughter for watching so many commercials so the rest of us can keep blocking them

[clear ferry]

I just put on the Roku instead 😛

Then use Netflix offline in the car and on planes

[boreal pewter]

I still fight Plex and rclone

[tame cove]

hello everyone, if i reboot my MQTT broker (mosquito) i lose my entities in HA , until i reboot them as well , can i somehow turn off this feature ?

[pure vine]

Quick question before i start putting more time in to this custom component, does anyone know if someone has already made a http_request service custom component

@tame cove sounds like persistance isnt setup

[hearty depot]

#the-water-cooler For chat around things that aren't Home Assistant related
you could disable discovery and anually configure the entetys yourself
something like webhooks?

[pure vine]

No, its a generic request service(its basicly exposing requests as a service)

[eager trench]

@tame cove publish a blank status topic to them and they will report their status again... but why are you rebooting the broker anyway?

[tame cove]

Hi David , i indeed shouldnt reboot but i had a power outage and saw that i had to reboot all the sonoff devies

[lost zinc]

Hi all, I am looking for some assistance with regards to rtsp streams. 1. I cannot get the Lovelace picture entity to show my stream. I have added a generic camera in my configuration.yaml (URL I used can be viewed in VLC) and then configured the card as per the HA documentation but it just does not stream or show anything, empty card and loading when I click on it. Any ideas?
P.S. I am fairly new to HA - Running Hass.io on a VM

[hearty depot]

#cameras-archived @lost zinc
you find there tricks like using the android app Onivfer to find out the right URL

[lost zinc]

@hearty depot , I have the correct URL as I can view the feed in VLC and the MotionEye add on. Its the direct feed in Lovelace which is just not working

[orchid rose]

what format is it?

[boreal pewter]

It probably is the not-in- #the-water-cooler format

[clear ferry]

👆

Only cheezburgrs and kittens here

The cat is sadly dead though

But it started a franchise

I just got passed be a Ferrari 512TR

One of the strangest cars I have ever seen

It was in some kind of surf blue, which made it look even stranger

https://images.app.goo.gl/yotyYyhRxv4yLXNq8

[boreal pewter]

And it got a german number plate

[clear ferry]

It wasn't that one, but the same car and colour 😛

@tame cove read the channel topic

[boreal pewter]

And use question marks when asking a question 🤷

[strange vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/409072233206513684/620622990207615007/IMG-20190909-WA0002.jpg

[hearty depot]

oh yea @boreal pewter
finnaly orderd my parts
I just only hope they can be stuck together 😓

[boreal pewter]

Sure they can if they're in the upper class

[hearty depot]

took your advice and changed to an AM4 system
Just was to much pain to find a propper 1155 mainboard

[boreal pewter]

I honestly don't care much about my Mainboard. I usually take an cheap ASRock 80 buck one, like a Pro3 for my old 1155 and now a Pro4 B for the current AM4 system. Since you don't OC Ryzen anyway it will work just as well as any 160 bucks mainboard

Just the RAM should be expensive 😄

[hearty depot]

IO was my cild of worry - so many mainboards with only usb2

[boreal pewter]

lol Mine has enough USB3 tho

That I have https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450 Pro4/index.asp#Overview

[hearty depot]

and the proper ones costed about 140€ 😛

but already on building an Micro-ATX for the now unused I5
not shure if it is an good idea to order mainboards from Ali xD
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33009932631.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.2c0078da1atSmG&algo_pvid=f1baa41c-aebe-4f29-8ee9-6e9f01adfd7f&algo_expid=f1baa41c-aebe-4f29-8ee9-6e9f01adfd7f-1&btsid=a5139af8-e7a0-49ba-be0b-63da68adbdae&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_10,searchweb201603_53

[boreal pewter]

As said I have above for 80 bucks and it has everything needed

[hearty depot]

aww even a c slot
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07FNKGZPM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[boreal pewter]

Never forget what the Mainboard connects to, any storage, CPU, GPU. Everything it connects to can it possibly break... so no... 80 bucks for a common known mainboard shouldn't kill you

https://geizhals.de/asrock-b450-pro4-90-mxb8b0-a0uayz-a1858730.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

[hearty depot]

MSI isnt known well? I liked the 4 usb3.1 slots

[boreal pewter]

Sure, never said else, did I? It just sounded like you wanna save as much money as possible and therefor the Asrock is probably the cheapest usable one around

[hearty depot]

eehh - was the initial idea - Now I paid 350€ for the processor allone 🤣

[boreal pewter]

Even that is cheap considering the current 3xxx I would get are 500+

[hearty depot]

I was happy with my old I5 actually - I just hope I can play Cyberpunk with the Ryzen 7 3700x 🤞

[boreal pewter]

Depends on your RAM, RAM OC, Cooling in regards to the AMD PBO settings and the used Engine of the game

[orchid rose]

it's funny how that changes at times. When I got my cpu 8 years ago, it was the common practice to get the cheapest ram you could find as it made so little performance difference. Few years later, things had changed and even for a gaming PC it was worth having fairly fast RAM

not sure how it is now with the newer ones

[boreal pewter]

Well if it was now about to get an i7 you can just get any cheap <100 buck 2600Mhz Ram

But Ryzen is very specific here

Even I saved money on this case only took common 3200Mhz CL16 RAm, not too bad but not good either

[hearty depot]

For now I just try to slap in the two sicks I got laying here

🤞 🤞 🤞

[boreal pewter]

It maybe works but you won't be happy, just saying before you cry it's so slow 😛

[orchid rose]

used market is pretty good with memory so if you have issues, it might be worth swapping those

[hearty depot]

Its possible that theyre good ones..?

[boreal pewter]

When they were used with an intel, barely. Barely people on an intel went on buying high Mhz RAM. And I'm not even sure if you build that yourself, it rather sounds like it is a ready-to-go one and then.. well definitely not lol

[orchid rose]

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/prozessoren/50163-amds-ryzen-7-3700x-und-ryzen-9-3900x-im-test.html?start=13

[hearty depot]

MTA8ATF1G64AZ-2G3H1
lol were all german guys?

[orchid rose]

around 3000MHz seems to be enough for Ryzen 7

no, but ich verstehe ein bisschen and that's what I found with my first google search

[hearty depot]

fufufufu 2400 MHz

[boreal pewter]

Yep really terrible common Intel Ram

I think when I was buying mine exactly a year ago, Samsung B-Die RAM with 3200Mhz+ and at least CL16 was 240€?

So I just didn't take Samsung B-Dies and paid 130 or 140 :/

[hearty depot]

Comeooon 🙈

[boreal pewter]

And as said, for the CPU OC itself to get a higher per core Ghz for Games which don't at least support 8 cores you want to get the best cooling you can get

[hearty depot]

this one is already on the way https://amzn.to/2HVkiY8

[boreal pewter]

Also case cooling and such

[scenic radish]

just ordered a HUSBZB-1 and some xiaomi temp/humidity sensors

time to get a bunch of other zigbee/z-wave shit i don't need

[boreal pewter]

I limited myself on this building a quite system so mine is a be quite and I get almost 10° cooler putting the front plate off lol

[orchid rose]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-3000-best-memory-timings,6310.html <-Here's a good article as well, taking latencies in to consideration.

3200MHz C16 seems like a good compromise, but I didn't check the prices

[hearty depot]

Why I orderd the Noctuna
https://youtu.be/23vjWtUpItk?t=393
I like this guys xD

[boreal pewter]

I took the 1,1KG Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 😛

[scenic radish]

is it safe to wash electric cars?

[hearty depot]

should be xD

Dont let your car out in the rain!

And dont drive in rain!!11

[scenic radish]

shit, brb

[orchid rose]

75€ for a 16GB set of 3200MHz. I'd probably just get those Underknowledge if you can get rid of the 2400 ones for a decent price

[hearty depot]

actually just searching for an micro-atx for a new HA host instead 🤣
upcicleing

got the old 1155 processor also here bietet sich doch an

[boreal pewter]

What 75 bucks? Never

Yeah I thought so

https://geizhals.de/?cat=ramddr3&xf=15903_DDR4~253_16384~254_3200~4276_16

Still 130 buddy

[clear ferry]

@scenic radish you should see the water cooled server racks I install then 😛

[boreal pewter]

@hearty depot

[orchid rose]

you're looking at tRCD for some reason and not tCL: https://geizhals.eu/?cat=ramddr3&xf=15903_DDR4~253_16384~254_3200

[boreal pewter]

Oh right

Damn these prices

😭

[clear ferry]

Lol buying hardware 😂

[boreal pewter]

I wonder then how much the cheapest B-Die would be then 😛

[hearty depot]

I get confused again 🤣
aah Why there must be so many diffrent ones

[boreal pewter]

You can easily OC an b-die from 3200 to 3400

[orchid rose]

you could just buy 3600 for 10€ more you know 😉

[boreal pewter]

Maybe I can find out within the next hour what that could be, there Forum Threads of collections of known B-Die Ryzen RAM

[orchid rose]

but there was something special about the b-dies I think that made them better

[scenic radish]

come on, just download some more RAM

it's free

can't believe no one has mentioned that

overusedjoke.jpg

[boreal pewter]

lol I just read that the B-Dies are discontinued tho

[hearty depot]

but you need to have ram in the first place😉

[boreal pewter]

Damn A-Dies gonna be interesting

Probably then 500 buck a kit lol

Here is a site I found @hearty depot https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

Speed 3200, CAS 14, Size 16 could be affordable

F4-3200C14D-16GFX
https://geizhals.de/?fs=F4-3200C14D-16GFX &in=

[orchid rose]

maybe next year they'll release something worth upgrading my i5 2500k to... Been checking every year for 6 years now 🤔

[hearty depot]

So many Articels to read - I dont even understant the diffrences yet xD

[boreal pewter]

B-Die is very well overclockable in the first place

[orchid rose]

Big MHz gut, low CAS values gut. Bigger = Besser.

[boreal pewter]

CAS is a timing, so as lower the timing as faster 😉

Or called "CL Rating"

[orchid rose]

tl;dr you'll gain a few percentage in games if you swap your 2400MHz to something a bit faster

[boreal pewter]

A few FPS*

[last plaza]

@shy comet I didn't want to have deep conversation in the #330944238910963714 channel and certainly didn't want to get yelled by @light trout 😛

is there a monthly subscription? I already have a VOIP subscription wit Vonage

I still have a home phone, kept it mainly for the number, and it never rings. We use that to make international calls only

[shy comet]

no monthly subscription, it uses google voice which is free in the US for calling

[last plaza]

so you don't even need vonage?

[brisk glen]

I got 2 16 GB ddr4 ram sticks for $200

ram is cheap

[sacred hornet]

guys, quick question

would this be correct file_path: /config/fail2ban.log if the fail2ban.log file is located in /config

[unreal orbit]

yes, that's how file locations work

[sacred hornet]

weird then, since HA is through a config error

maybe ill restart manually and try it

thanks mate

[unreal orbit]

Maybe try posting the error message, and maybe try asking for home assistant assistance in #330944238910963714 😉

There is a homeassistant user? lol well they just got pinged

[sacred hornet]

lmao 😛

[shy comet]

@last plaza i ditched vonage in favor of obihai

[scenic radish]

@unreal orbit It is I, Home Assistant.

[unreal orbit]

Big fan, first time pinger

[scenic radish]

but i hardly know her

[unreal orbit]

I think this server would benefit from a #dad-jokes channel

[scenic radish]

yes pls

it would be the channel i'm the most active on

[light trout]

That technically goes in this channel

[clear ferry]

But I only had dad jokes even before becoming a dad

Does that make my jokes grandad jokes

[unreal orbit]

Those were dad-in-training jokes

[clear ferry]

[unkempt umbra]

dad jokes?
Who's Irish and stays out all night..?

<irish accent> Patty o'Furniture</irish accent>

[scenic radish]

booooooooo

[unkempt umbra]

<ducks>

[scenic radish]

🍅

[unkempt umbra]

<dodges>

[scenic radish]

dodge that

[unkempt umbra]

I've got 5 kids, and 3.5 grandkids... the dad-joke is strong with me.

and groan-worthy

[scenic radish]

3.5 grandkids

🤔

[unreal orbit]

One in the oven?

[unkempt umbra]

9yo, 15 months, 12 months and one on the way

[scenic radish]

i saw that @clever mortar

you think you can hide from us? pffh

[clever mortar]

I was going to make a sick joke, but...

[scenic radish]

same lol

[clever mortar]

I'm trying to be less mean to others

[unreal orbit]

How's that working out 🤣

[scenic radish]

it's all because of your aggressive italics

AGGRESSIVE

[clever mortar]

They're only aggressive when I use the pointy letters

[scenic radish]

?

[clever mortar]

Or drop them from orbit

|
v

[unreal orbit]

THIS. IS. AS. ANGRY. AS. DISCORD. MESSAGES. CAN. BE.

[scenic radish]

A N G E R Y

https://tenor.com/view/grumpy-mad-angry-cat-gif-14232626

[clever mortar]

🇦 🇳 🇬 🇷 🇾 ❗

[unkempt umbra]

hmm. that's one sour puss

[scenic radish]

🇺 🇷 🇦 🇳 🇴 🇴 🇧

[unreal orbit]

@scenic radish YOU. @scenic radish CAN. @scenic radish ALSO. @scenic radish AGGRESSIVELY. @scenic radish PING. @scenic radish PEOPLE. @scenic radish

[scenic radish]

lmao

finna ping the FUCK outta u

[clever mortar]

Need a bot to do that right

Actually, need a bot that can create bots, so that the victim can't block the bot

[scenic radish]

there it is

[unreal orbit]

That's just diabolical

[clever mortar]

Nah. diabolical would be doing that every second

[unreal orbit]

I assumed it would be

[clever mortar]

Actually, diabolical is doing that in bursts, at random intervals anywhere from a few minutes, to days apart

[scenic radish]

{% if now() == now() %}
Ping
{% else %}
Ping
{% endif %}

[clever mortar]

Then the victim never knows if it's stopped, or just on a long delay

[clear ferry]

MORE CAPS BOYS

[clever mortar]

Bursts of anywhere from one, to 50, with delays between those too

[scenic radish]

goodness

[clever mortar]

Just so you wind them up with waiting, and wondering if another one is coming...

[scenic radish]

you've put a lot of thought into this lmao

"Please not again..."

ping

DAMMIT

[clever mortar]

No thought in that, it's just psychology

And stealing from history, psychological warfare has a very long history 😄

Then again, I was a system admin for some years, mind games kind of comes with the territory

[unreal orbit]

It's amazing how much damage one could do with very limited technical knowledge

I think that in itself proves that most people aren't terrible

[scenic radish]

i remember making one of my teachers in middle school freak out when we sent a message to his computer with net send lol

[unreal orbit]

Or they are just more lazy than terrible

[clever mortar]

Borrow and copy somebody's car keys. Every so often, at random, tweak the mirrors and/or seat so that it seems like they're getting taller/shorter, tilting left/right.

Over a period of weeks you'll drive them crazy

[scenic radish]

i'll take one from the office and slowly add coins to someone's handset, then remove them all one day

[unkempt umbra]

I used to have an account on a T3 connected site, could ping folks off irc... back in 1993

[scenic radish]

heh drive them crazy?

[unkempt umbra]

oh no... Tinkerer is/was a BOFH?

[clever mortar]

Bwah hah hah

[scenic radish]

𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓼𝓱𝓸𝓾𝓵𝓭 𝓾𝓼𝓮 𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓼𝓮 𝓲𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓬𝓼 @clever mortar

[unkempt umbra]

mind the cattle prod... and the carpet and lime

[scenic radish]

you know, for 𝓮𝓶𝓹𝓱𝓪𝓼𝓲𝓼

you are a 𝓷𝓸𝓸𝓫 at home assistant. 𝓰𝓲𝓽 𝓰𝓾𝓭

[clever mortar]

🤣

𝕭𝖀𝕽𝕹

[scenic radish]

https://tenor.com/view/rap-rap-battle-gif-5518154

[valid halo]

Is Tinkerer advocating for gas lighting.

Tsk tsk

[unkempt umbra]

no more than usual

[unreal orbit]

Well, it looks like the android companion app was an April fools joke after all 😛

[brisk glen]

sounds like you need to go make one

android devs unite

(sorry, im a ios dev)

[scenic radish]

:(

[scenic radish]

Anyone else excited for the borderlands 3 release?

[hushed basalt]

Gaming! Who has time for games when you could be debugging Esphome errors!

[storm summit]

I'm not one for gods or anything ...but man. THANK GOD FOR DOCKER. I just upgraded Zoneminder on an old server.

[modest sentinel]

I'm trying to wire up my first zwave switch... why am I so afraid of electrical work lol

[scenic radish]

@hushed basalt solid point
@modest sentinel probably because electricity isn't a joke and it can kill you. But just shut off the power, verify it's off, and you'll be ok

[modest sentinel]

well, just my luck I got all the switches pulled out and started identifying wires and whatnot, and the sky turned black and it started to storm. Couldnt see, so I just stuffed them back in the box

if a handyman will do them all for cheap I'll just go that route, it's kind of cramped dealing with all the wires hah

Curious what you guys would do to solve this situation: I have two separate lights for my back deck. One from the dining room, one from the master bed. Ideally turning one on would turn the other on, or at the very least turning the dining room on turns the bedroom on. Without completely rewiring, I guess I could replace the dining room switch and either the master bedroom switch, or just a spare smart bulb, and have an automation that the master follows whatever happens to the dining room?

[brisk glen]

Be lazy and use smart bulbs

[hushed basalt]

Smart bulbs are lazy but not ideal

Best solution is some sort of smart switch on both

And then an automation in HA or nodered to make them trigger together

[jaunty summit]

good evening folks!

is "hide_if_home: true/flase" a thing?

[hushed basalt]

#330944238910963714

[jaunty summit]

👍

[storm summit]

@hushed basalt yea. the whole smart bulb thing is kinda a mess. we need switches that integrate better with bulbs. new business opportunity.

[hushed basalt]

I am a fan of dumb lights with smart switches

Otherwise you can use smart lights and smart switches and do everything in HA/nodered etc

[clear ferry]

[boreal pewter]

@clear ferry you once watched me playing Civ6 and found the music ggood enough for your 69 years old ears

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVUpI9Eed0I

I got this for ya

[clear ferry]

I haven't played civ since civ2, but I always preferred colonization

But nice choir 😀

[boreal pewter]

I just needed something of that kind in compensation to a C&C so it was Civ6

And since my Steam Region is always Russia I got that game with almost all DLC's for cheap enough

[clear ferry]

Red Alert / Red Alert 2 4 lyfe

But colonization is jolly fun, I often pull it out and play it in dosbox

[boreal pewter]

Yeah, pls remade in proper HD and a good official multiplayer and I'm back on this

[clear ferry]

And Ufo enemy unknows, and terror from the deep

[boreal pewter]

Waiting for the "remake" which many ppl assume

[light trout]

RA2 is the game I have the most hours over all in 😁

[dusk carbon]

Anyone know of an automation that lets you change the brightness of lights that are currently switched On?

[boreal pewter]

#the-water-cooler

[orchid rose]

wrong channel, #330944238910963714 is for these questions. However, you should be able to just call light.turn_on again with different attributes

[boreal pewter]

Brightness it's it's own attribute which you can set with an integer tho...

[stone grove]

Howdy guys. Realllllly new to this and not reaslly sure where to post my questions as they're no doubt very basic. Just got my first RPi3 this week. and got myself an esp32 as well.
I've got Hass.io installed and ESPHome. Ive connected a DS18B20 temp sensor to my esp32 and managed to get it to connect to my wifi. but thats as far as i've gotten. Everything i've looked up doesnt tell me how to get the esp32 to talk to the sensor or anything. I have a feeling I may be missing something. I've litterally only started this this week, so am extremely new. Where should I be posting my questions up?

[clear ferry]

@stone grove #551843558676758569 #diy-archived #330990055533576204 and #330944238910963714 is the channels you need 🎉

#diy-archived for the esp32 questions first mayhaps

[stone grove]

CHeers, @clear ferry ... I'll throw something up in the #diy-archived section. Appreciate the help!

[hearty depot]

shell question wich is borthering me for a while.
just playing with bash, a json api and JQ.
is it possible to use curl, pipe it into JQ and reuse the just runned curl again?

cụ̣̣rl »| jq
    »| jq 

I mean I could save it to an file and && the command
But where would be the fun there 😛

[low harness]

You mean pipe it into two things?

Check out tee

[hearty depot]

Thanks - will do

[low harness]

It's not quite the same thing, but almost.

Or you could use it with named pipes

[hushed basalt]

Just run the curl again. Slam that rest api hard

Make them work for their concurrency limits

[low harness]

Or have them setup propper caching headers

[hushed basalt]

CURLOPT_FRESH_CONNECT

[hearty depot]

named pipes are almot identical as saving it into an file 🤔
wouldnt be an issue to curl it again - but where would be the educational progress

[hushed basalt]

But yeah seriously just use a file

How big is what you're expecting back

You could also do it in nodered

[hearty depot]

I just try figure things out. JQ is just awesome.
just 10kb or so - prittey much nothing

Hehe - tee too xD

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/track/7vegT9qo8cACBQEtQJTbij?si=1QbdYomuQNKDbEX7XA1kdg

[hearty depot]

paying a proper amount to spotyfy - Or tricked into turkey or the philipines?

[clear ferry]

[boreal pewter]

lol Spotify is not so easy in tricking anymore. Not worth it IMO

They even don't allow my mother in my family account those retards

[hearty depot]

There is still Deezer - but their 'Flow' suck

[strange vapor]

https://rackstuds.com/2018/03/12/eu-winter-too-cold-for-our-bags-oops/ Damn EU weather 😄

[clear ferry]

I have a family account with one for my wife and one for me and one for a public music playing tablet for guests 😛

@strange vapor wtf

[strange vapor]

Things you don't think about when exporting from southern hemisphere to northern 😄

[hushed basalt]

Rackstuds are awesome

[hushed basalt]

New zealand gets pretty cold though

I'm pretty sure they're NZ

[strange vapor]

They are, but cold in NZ vs cold in Scandinavia are slightly different things.

[ocean mirage]

yeah do the major NZ cities even get under freezing?

[late gate]

Any thoughts if a 0,5 constant mqtt update is too much for what mqtt is designed for?

[clear ferry]

Don't talk to me about cold you Aussie nuggets

[hushed basalt]

32 degrees yesterday

That's cold, compared to the sun

One thing your Northerners do that shits me off

Is saying things like "Coming this fall"

Ergghhh, you do realise that 50% of the globe exists right.

[low harness]

Yeah! How dare we aim our local commercials at only 88-90% of the worlds popuplation? The nerve!

[hushed basalt]

If they were local I wouldn't see them

Plus you can get in big trouble if your website etc is only accessible to 99% of people and disregards screenreaders

[scenic radish]

good morning/afternoon/evening everyone

[sharp spire]

Wife when I replace fan switches and wiring with ifan03 and put a blank plate where the switch was: "ugh you messed with the switches"
Wife when I attach the fan controller to the blank plate with a command strip: "Wow you sure were busy while I was gone!"

[scenic radish]

i'm so glad my fiancee is so tolerant of my smart home setup. she actually even likes it

and she would definitely let me know if she didn't

[sharp spire]

I just have strict requirements that everything has to look like it did before

but she doesn't even carry a front door key now so I count that as a success

except when HA dies and I have to remote in to fix it

[scenic radish]

when HA dies? that's certainly not normal...what do you mean

[sharp spire]

one time my SD card failed and the door wouldn't open

[scenic radish]

yikes

i'm running hassio on raspbian on an ssd...might be a consideration for you

[sharp spire]

I've thought about it - trying to keep the power usage down for the UPS I have it on

but I also added a fallback for her access card so it works even if the server is down

[scenic radish]

oh gotcha

i don't have anything "mission critical" controlled by home assistant...mainly just conveniences that i would miss but wouldn't be devastating

i have an extension of my security system running but nothing that is the core of the system at all

[sharp spire]

well even the door still works with the normal key, but who wants to carry a key these days?

[scenic radish]

oh good, i was concerned for you both lol

i live in a condo with secured entry so even if i had a smart lock on my unit door, i'd still need to carry a key for the building entrance

[boreal pewter]

Not if you always leave the door open 😄

[scenic radish]

lol true, but someone would close it

plus i wouldn't want anyone being able to walk in without the key

[unkempt umbra]

with my august locks, I go weeks without touching my keys, except for mailbox.

[boreal pewter]

Put a sign there "Please don't walk in"

[unkempt umbra]

nah, put a siign up: "Beware of claymore roomba"

https://i.redd.it/p9yjxoaq32h31.jpg

[scenic radish]

@boreal pewter such a simple, yet brilliant solution

[upper tinsel]

Yes, but is it DJ Roomba?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXhsUPtsiLU

[boreal pewter]

😄

[strange vapor]

https://twitter.com/padraigbelton/status/1094001423304540160?lang=en

Pádraig Belton (@PadraigBelton)

A digital billboard in Odessa malfunctioned, in the fog. Convincing unknown numbers of motorists not only were they living in the Matrix, but it was being run on Windows 98.

Retweets

11157

Likes

27748

Twitter

[pure vine]

Came across a mention of home assistant in /r/britishproblems https://reddit.com/r/britishproblems/comments/d24j63/its_september_so_you_now_have_to_be_extra/ezsv32o?context=5

[clear ferry]

Me looking at @clever mortar config right here

https://i.imgur.com/tW3SEay_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[clever mortar]

🤣

Just... don't use switch.turn_off with an area_id - I've just removed that from my setup

Something odd is going on and it turns off every switch in the house

[clear ferry]

Oooh

[clever mortar]

I need to find out if that's something stupid I'm doing, or an actual bug

It's supposed to work, and does with light

[clear ferry]

It's not a bug it's a feature

[orchid rose]

New update made discord look like absolute trash... why they do this....

[sharp spire]

do you use the light theme?

[orchid rose]

I did yeah but they broke it so badly I had to switch to the dark one, which doesn't look as bad, but still pretty awful

[scenic radish]

Well there's your problem right there then

Jk. I wanted to switch to the light theme on only the desktop web client, but apparently it's a global setting 😡

[dire tusk]

Anyone else feeling left confused and sad that Home Assistant is moving away from yaml?

Im unsure if I'll need to restart my whole setup for the new configuration

[last plaza]

what do you mean moving away from yaml? where do you see that?

[hushed basalt]

Pros and cons

Can't infrastructure as code or cicd it, which is a shame

Pros are wider user adoption, which means more and better plugins will follow

[amber bramble]

@dire tusk most UI-based config doesn't require a restart

[storm summit]

anyone got a good link to an apple summary video

[brisk glen]

@storm summit the keynote was meh

[storm summit]

Yea. I just watched a summary and read a blog.

they are trying the Mac Pro again I see.

[brisk glen]

new allways on display apple watch, new cheap ipad with smart keyboard and iphone 11/pro

[storm summit]

the sound level notificaiton on the watch is cool. wish I had that when i was 22

all those clubs probably destroyed a bunch of my ears.

WE have a super-loud air-dryer in our bathroom at work. That's the first place I'm taking my watch when it comes out. I'm going to send a screen shot to the property manager.

[upper tinsel]

Hmmm seeing a post about using esp8266/32... Could use one to automate turning on my Keurig... Do I dare venture down that rabbit hole?

[hushed basalt]

You might have better luck in #diy-archived @upper tinsel

I wouldn't bother though myself

Pod machines really should run a empty rinse cycle first to preheat

Plus inserting a pod and pressing one button isn't a huge time saver

If anything I'd do it to automatically preheat and prerinse. And insert a pod in manually afterwards

[upper tinsel]

Was just thinking out loud - I was only curious to do it to start the heat cycle. I hate waiting for it to heat up in the morning
Abandon all hope...

[boreal pewter]

6am deployment, wohoo

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/track/2Y9lhxU2IFZr2SVJW3Y5ej?si=5g4XqyxUTBKfuC1ycaR4sw

[hushed basalt]

All deploys should be done at 4.59pm

On a friday

[boreal pewter]

Agree, but they decline

Fixes the first one on monday then

[brisk glen]

oh shit, U1 chip and home assistent is going to be fun once Apple opens that up for us Devolopers

[hearty depot]

Apple Keyfinder incoming

[tough igloo]

I really need to get into @clear ferry Spotify playlists!

[clear ferry]

You should get my music mails too 😛

I sent them to @ocean mirage but he is useless!

[tough igloo]

How’s @ocean mirage going with that?

[ocean mirage]

I am useless

[tough igloo]

Sure thing, sign me up!

[ocean mirage]

I have no idea what I am doing

[tough igloo]

Nobody is useless!

[clear ferry]

@tough igloo send me your email in a message and I'll forward the mail's

[tough igloo]

My 6mo is not useless. Provides endless shidded and farded for me to attend to!

[clear ferry]

I woke up to a bed full of piss this morning since my daughter slept 13 hours last night 😂

[tough igloo]

😂 perfect!

[clear ferry]

I need to start using bigger diapers

[tough igloo]

Yeah our girl is chonk so we use the big ones

[clear ferry]

Hah, we have an absolute unit too

She is 10.5 months and 12.5 kgs

And 80ish cms

[tough igloo]

Nice!

Ours is in the 98th percentile for weight her age

[hushed basalt]

Mine is 7kg at 7.5 months :/

[clear ferry]

Ours have been at 110 for a while both in height and weight

[tough igloo]

Works those gains!

[hushed basalt]

Git gud

[clear ferry]

She's a strong motherbleeper too

I have to fight her while she sleeps

[tough igloo]

Ours is undergoing a rockyesque training regime complete with eye of the tiger every meal time

[clear ferry]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[tough igloo]

Fun times

It’s our third so this is all happening without really concentrating too much 😂

[clear ferry]

I need to figure out her sense of music soon, she dances to acdc and falls asleep to me singing pink Floyd, and used to sleep on top of me listening to Joe bonamassa and Peter Gabriel, so I try to push music as much as I can

[tough igloo]

That’s rad!

[boreal pewter]

Are we talking about weed plants?

[tough igloo]

Not quite. But I think it’s legal to own one where I live

[boreal pewter]

Depends on the gender right..

[clear ferry]

@tough igloo you got mail 📬

[tough igloo]

Thanks! Getting my wife to translate 😝

[clear ferry]

google translates fine 🤣

according to @ocean mirage

[ocean mirage]

For the most part

His wife translates better though

[clear ferry]

I don't need Google, I have a wife

I have that fridge magnet

[hearty depot]

I have the Fridge managment - she gota decide whats unhealty...
stupid to have an nutrition expert in spe at home

[tough igloo]

My life’s motto

You read fantasy @clear ferry ? I saw a reference to Tolkien in the newsletter

[hearty depot]

Awww.. Hardware parts incoming today

after 3 weeks without decent PC

[tough igloo]

What parts?

[clear ferry]

Indeed, there is a lot of metal bands that reference fantasy works

[hearty depot]

Case, Mainboard, Processor & Cooler
can reuse my shitty ram and graphic card

[clear ferry]

I usually stick to Tolkien or Stephen king multiverse though

[ocean mirage]

Lots of old rock bands too

Zeppelin did it all the time

[tough igloo]

Currently reading Malazan. Quite epic

I think I just need a new cpu @hearty depot

[ocean mirage]

I started reading The Hobbit recently

[hearty depot]

My AiO cooler broke in an Alienware Desktop.. the suckers wanted 190 bucks for looking at it and another 250 for an replacement cooler. No 💢
Tryed to get a decent mainboard for an 1155 - almost impossible

[tough igloo]

That’s harsh

[hearty depot]

Dell®

[boreal pewter]

You buy shit, you get shit 😄

[hearty depot]

Was'nt to bad - for around 1000€ an I5 with 16 gig ram + an geforce 1080ti
the 1080 allone would have costed me 800€ back then

[brisk glen]

I’ll stick with air cooling

No shit for me

Except this electrical in this place I rent till the end of the month

F this shit

Brown outs left and right, my USPS systems keep kicking online

[hearty depot]

I really hope this masive cooler I bourght will get in there

[clear ferry]

I remember reading the Silmarillon in 2001, actually had to stop at points and reread sentences, and I'm quite proficient in English, although not native 😂 @tough igloo @ocean mirage

[clever mortar]

Using Tolkien as a benchmark for English.... 🤔

Love his work, but it's not always an easy read even for a native reader.

[hearty depot]

best good night story ever

[clear ferry]

I stopped reading Norwegian books when I was 12 though 🤷

[clever mortar]

Nah, for bedtime stories you want to read some of Stephen King's work 😛

[clear ferry]

Aye, I mostly read King these days

[ocean mirage]

The Hobbit is quite simple, just dated language

[clear ferry]

The wife hates his style of writing

[ocean mirage]

I hate how he || wrote himself into the dark tower ||

[clever mortar]

I prefer his horror/thriller to the Dark Tower

[hearty depot]

🙈 mostly reading books bout networking and other fun things like ansible or openshift

[clear ferry]

He contemplated removing himself in the next rewrite though @ocean mirage

[ocean mirage]

Good lol

I think I prefer his stuff like that and the stand

[clear ferry]

@clever mortar insomnia is very good for a non horror novel

The shining is probably my favourite other than the drawing of the three and the wastelands though

[tough igloo]

the only king I read was 11.22.63

[clever mortar]

I've read all his "early" stuff

[ocean mirage]

I liked that one bloods

Interesting enough

[tough igloo]

Yeah it was good. The show was pretty good too I thought

[ocean mirage]

I haven’t seen it

[clear ferry]

Doctor sleep is very good too, coming this year as a movie too

[tough igloo]

to your earlier comment - thanks to wikis I know how to pronounce words in fantasy books

[ocean mirage]

I haven’t read many of his classic horrors

[clear ferry]

I need to get around to the stand, seen the mini series many times, never read the book

[hushed basalt]

Anyone know about aws ecs vs eks vs k8s etc

[strange vapor]

EKS is just a managed offering of K8S by Amazon.

ECS is a way of running containers within your VPC rather than bringing up full EC2 VMs if I recall correctly.

[pure vine]

is talking about anti-5g thing technically politics

[clear ferry]

probably @pure vine 🤣

[pure vine]

A group of protesters got a debate on my local counicls agenda, they pretented their points, and the first counciler to respond works in the indistry or is a Uni person and what was really annoying is that becuse the protestors had no counter point to his arguments and decided just to try and discredit him by laughing

there is a video of it

[boreal pewter]

Remember when you had storage issues?

1.1P 5.6T 1.1P 1% /home/user/downloads/auto
1.1P 5.6T 1.1P 1% /home/user/downloads/tnts
1.1P 5.6T 1.1P 1% /home/user/downloads/tnt
1.1P 5.6T 1.1P 1% /home/user/downloads/ipt
1.1P 5.6T 1.1P 1% /home/user/downloads/emp

[clear ferry]

1.1P

those are rookie numbers

you gotta pump those numbers kid

[boreal pewter]

😄

@clear ferry even sleeps on 10P as a bed

[clear ferry]

I wouldn't say that, but I have enterprise FC drives in my garage that I just keep around just in case 🤣

mostly 72-900GB range each though

[boreal pewter]

Fun fact, you couldn't even install GTA V on a 72GB drive 😛

It would only fit like 1 4k movie too

What did time do 😭

[hushed basalt]

Untitled_2.0.jpg (1400×933)

[amber bramble]

I remember my dad upgrading out home computer to a new state of the art 80gb hard drive and thinking we'd never fill it up

and now i'm slowly building an 80tb home fileserver lol

[boreal pewter]

lol 80TB

[amber bramble]

you can fit a lot of linux isos on 1.1PB 🤣

[boreal pewter]

That is just cloud storage tho tbh 😛 😅

[clear ferry]

I still remember my Commodore with tape drive 🤣

but the first PC was the IBM PS\1, with a 40MB drive

[boreal pewter]

@clear ferry remembers when the first car touched a street

[clear ferry]

no, you are thinking about @clever mortar I'm a youngling 🤔

[clever mortar]

Hey, the first cars were electric - you kids are just catching up again now

[scenic radish]

had a bit of a scare yesterday...i've been using the wyze sense custom component for a while now, and I just got a z-wave/zigbee USB stick. plugged it in, added zha and z-wave to my config, and got a ton of errors after restarting home assistant and wyze no longer worked. i remembered reading how modemmanager can cause issues with this on the setup that i have (hassio on raspbian), so disabled modemmanager, rebooted the pi, and all is well

and by "bit of a scare" i mean i was gonna be sad if i couldn't get the new USB stick to work lol

@clear ferry my dumbass is over here thinking that's a half mug of some sort until i noticed it's just the coffeemaker blocking part of it

[clear ferry]

lulz

[hearty depot]

urgh.. cant remember that wxpython taks so long tu build

Does htop try to tell me that bijiben have access to 98G?..

[wet raptor]

man, i ordered a aqara cube and the conbee stick, for the express purpose of making a volume control for my sonos setup (which uses some new ikea/sonos symfonisk) only to find out they are coming out with a volume remote. https://www.ikea.com/fr/fr/p/symfonisk-telecommande-volume-noir-40433780/

[hearty depot]

Congrats - you got now a conbee stick to play with 🙂

[scenic radish]

my thoughts exactly

you can now connect all kinds of other shit to home assistant

[modest hollow]

Anyone with Transmission on ubuntu server? can not get permission to write torrent, this my ls -la: https://hastebin.com/uyicawopek.rb . What permission should i give?

[hearty depot]

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=debian-transmission+permission+write

[clear ferry]

ubuntu servers 🤢

[clever mortar]

Could be worse

Could be SuSe 😛

[hearty depot]

You and your debian :P
could be arch

[clear ferry]

meh, I'm moving everything to freebsd jails and docker right now

and suse for whatever linux stuff I need

[clever mortar]

FreeBSD FTW

Actually, FreeBSD for when your old pre-Oracle Sun kit finally dies

That stuff would run forever I'd swear

[clear ferry]

longer than Tru64 you say

If I only could have that fully specced GS1280 🤣

for all you shitkids that think AMD-cpus are the cool stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO4jFmk-x5U 🤣

[modest hollow]

@hearty depot have tried with chmod -R 777,775,770,664, nothing

[clear ferry]

🤢

[hearty depot]

The first and seccond awnser at askubuntu is quite comprehensive and easy to follow 😉

[modest hollow]

tried all commands for user w and debian-transmission

google that before, but i am lost now

[clear ferry]

@modest hollow if 777 didn't accomplish what you wanted, what did you expect with less lenient permissions? I suggest picking up https://www.amazon.com/Linux-Dummies-9th-Richard-Blum/dp/0470467010

[past idol]

anyone using vacuum sealer here btw?

sorry not HA question

or smart home

I just wonder

[orchid rose]

Well that's what this channel is for. I only use my lungs when I try to vacuum seal my steaks into freezer bags. Doesn't work well, would not recommend...

[unreal orbit]

I use a sink full of water

[orchid rose]

why didn't I think of that...

[scenic radish]

i'm having trouble picturing what you mean @unreal orbit

[light trout]

did you try in MS paint?

[unreal orbit]

https://youtu.be/XrZPLF0ezw8?t=24

[scenic radish]

look at mr moneybags over here using water to seal his meat

jk that's pretty clever

[unreal orbit]

I'd be lying if I said I've never ended up with a bag full of water. You have to do this very carefully

[orchid rose]

Compared to my way of a straw and lungs... I feel dumb now...

[scenic radish]

@unreal orbit my exact thoughts as i'm watching the video

so anxious

[unreal orbit]

As long as you're using decent quality ziplocks and you pay attention you should be fine

If you're trying to get the air out of a bag full of water this method can get more complicated

[scenic radish]

i guess it's not a huge deal if some water gets in the bag though, right

certainly not ideal, might create more freezer burn?

[unreal orbit]

It depends on what you're freezing. For meat it doesn't matter if you only get a little bit in there. Meat has water

[scenic radish]

right, that's what i figured

[past idol]

I want a vacuum sealer

from amazon.com

yet they told me I cannot use that

because I have 230v

instead of 120

[orchid rose]

well magic smoke would come out

[clear ferry]

I use a vacuum sealer

And I have 230v

[scenic radish]

are there no 230v vacuum sealers

[clear ferry]

But I don't shop at amashit

[scenic radish]

*shamazon

[unreal orbit]

Why do you hate amazon?

[scenic radish]

i don't but i couldn't pass up some clever wordplay

[clear ferry]

Because they hardly ship to Norway, and if they do the shipping is the price of a Tesla

[scenic radish]

that's fair

guess they don't have any infrastructure near you?

[unreal orbit]

That's a fair reason not to use them if you're in Norway, but I don't see how that objectively makes them shit

[scenic radish]

is that you, jeff bezos?

[orchid rose]

tried the german amazon atxbyea? They offer free shipping to Finland at least

They are pretty evil though

...but also cheap

[clear ferry]

@unreal orbit the are norwacists 😛

[boreal pewter]

GERMANS

[scenic radish]

there he is

[unreal orbit]

Or Norway has better labor laws than the countries that Amazon thrives in

[clear ferry]

@orchid rose lieferen nach Norwegen!

[boreal pewter]

Die Deutschen kommen!

[clear ferry]

@unreal orbit you mean we don't exploit workers? Yes 😛

[unreal orbit]

That was my meaning, yes

If you are buying cheap products then somewhere down the line someone is being exploited

[boreal pewter]

But but but not the 12 year old chinese in the factory right?

[clear ferry]

No they are probably better off than Amazon warehouse employees 🤷

[boreal pewter]

😄 😄 😄

[scenic radish]

did some research on sweatshops a few years ago...apparently some of them actually provide a quality of life that's better than, for example, working outside in the fields. not that "this is a lesser evil" justifies it, but i just found it interesting

that's probably bordering politics a bit though, so sorry in advance

[brisk glen]

ODroid-H2 looks to be the perfect HA computer

[strange vapor]

I have a few ODroid-HC2 which I got to use for messing with proper distributed storage (Ceph/Gluster etc)

Great little machines.

[scenic radish]

"2 x Gbit Ethernet ports"
MOAR ethernet

and yeah it does. i wish the pi had an RTC...

[wintry crow]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07KQQVKDP Anyone used these, know if they can be de-clouded with Tasmota or similar?

Seem a decent price for 4, and we all love a bit of RGB...

[sand badge]

@wintry crow i have my regions version of those plugs and was not able to do tuya-convert

[polar relic]

‪So, with the hurricane this past weekend, my basement flooded and all my possessions that were down there have been removed and either thrown out or locked away in a secure storage container. In addition, a good portion of the drywall has now been gutted. ‬

‪My big stresser today? My two Phillips Hue smart lightbulbs that may have been mistakenly thrown out by the clean-up crew.‬

‪I may have a problem.‬

[scenic radish]

@polar relic sorry to hear that. Fs in the chat for your hue bulbs too

Also funny that that's your big stressor lol

[onyx gorge]

Anyone get a Nest Max Hub yet?

Curious if anyone got cameras working

[atomic drift]

Hello all, which raspberry pi would you buy if you are starting a new installation of hassio, 3B+ or 4?

[hushed basalt]

Try #330944238910963714 haha

I'd go for the 4 myself.

Better storage, better network, better cpu, more ram, etc

[atomic drift]

Cool, thanks for your input.

[bronze rock]

@clever mortar chmod: changing permissions of 'docker-compose.yaml': Read-only file system any reason that would have randomly started doing that given that I'm on that SSD now? The filesystem reports it as readable -rwxrwxr-x 1 pi smbgrp 442 Sep 6 11:18 docker-compose.yaml

[velvet horizon]

Tinkerer is away for 4h 27m 49s with a message :point_right: Searching... Searching... Tinkerer not found. Reset reality? 🇾 /🇳

[bronze rock]

looks like that drive has bad sectors things? =/

[bronze rock]

https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j5vVxcsBS8/

[spring creek]

I'm moving, so it's time to start over with my smart device setup. If you had to choose smart switches for your entire house today, what would you choose? I used GE z-wave switches before and liked them, but they weren't cheap and I'm curious of what else other homeassistant users have in their homes.

[brisk glen]

HomeKit ones

[storm summit]

@bronze rock ew... that doesnt' look good.

@spring creek Yea, I don't know. I hear people using a lot of those cheap WiFi switches. No idea how good they are. Mine are like $70 each too. I'm thinking someone needs to make ones that integrate directly with smart bulbs.

HomeKit? To me the HomeKit ecosystem sounds like a bad idea.

[hushed basalt]

I don't recommend smart switches with smart bulbs

Like mains switching switches

You're paying double for the smarts

[past idol]

so there are european models

yes

but those are more expensive and weird

i could get a cheaper one from amazon.ocm

.com

yet it uses 120V system

[hushed basalt]

I wouldn't use ones that aren't certified for your region or you'll void your insurance

If you want smart bulbs I recommend either wireless switches stuck on the wall, or hardwired switches to raspberry pi gpios etc

Ikea bulbs can also be directly controlled by ikea switches

Ikea tradfri bulbs, switches and hubs are probably your cheapest legal solution

[eager trench]

anyone using their own domain with Home Assistant?

I have a spare domain and I'd like to point it to me HA. Just not sure about what I need to change at the registrar

I was hoping to just use IPv6 and I added a AAAA record with the host @ to my IPv6 address of the server running HA

it's propagated in DNS but when I ping I still get the old host company IPv4 address

not sure if I need a cname record as well

[thick dragon]

I'm using my own domain. Got the AAA record pointing to a freedns address, which is in turn pointing to my external IP.

[light trout]

ipconfig /flushdns (if windows)

[eager trench]

did that a 100 times lol

[thick dragon]

Took a few hours to be accessible, mostly because I don't know much about networking/internet 😛

[eager trench]

well I checked the domain propagation and it seems to have propagated everywhere

why a freedns go-between?

do I need anything else other than an AAAA record and some patience?

[thick dragon]

Because I don't have a static IP, and I stupidly went with a registrar that didn't support any sort of dynamic DNS 😛

[clear ferry]

I've used dyndns for 20 years and hosted all my stuff on subdomains at home 🤷

Nothing ipv6 though

[thick dragon]

Does your ISP allow access using IPV6? I know a lot of ISPs use CGNAT for IPV4, and I believe because of that - sometimes don't allow IPV6.

[clear ferry]

In Norway we have never used CGNAT

Until later years with LTE

[ocean mirage]

My ISP recently changed to CGNAT but let me opt out, thank god

[clear ferry]

I've had ipv6 support at my ISP for 5 years, but haven't gotten around to use it, used a ipv6 tunnel between 2002 and 2004

[clear ferry]

I've heard of six of these

https://www.forbes.com/cloud100/

[ocean mirage]

I clock in at four

[light trout]

only 13 for me 🤔

[ocean mirage]

only more than both of us combined

[light trout]

I know @clear ferry don't live under a rock, he has heard of 10+ at least, it's probably just too early for him 😛

probably found 3-4 additional when looking a second time 😛

[boreal pewter]

@clear ferry has built clouds in 1970 before anyone even knew he ever needs one

[clear ferry]

nah, doublechecked, only found six 🤣

[mossy badge]

So I have one motion sensor in my hall, and a button we click when we go to bed. Meaning the motion sensor is setting an input_bool to be true if motion is detected. So im having all kinds of problem with that. Vacuum cleaner is triggering it, some times when I get home there is a lag in the sensor causing my lights not to turn on etc. Does anyone have a smarter way to do it?

[boreal pewter]

#the-water-cooler

[mossy badge]

Though it was suitable for lounge?

[boreal pewter]

For chat around things that aren't Home Assistant related, like whether Docker or Kubernetes, or Celcius or Kelvin, or Celcius or Celsius, or anything. NO POLITICS or RELIGION and BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.

I don't see how this is misunderstandable

[mossy badge]

ok

[clear ferry]

@boreal pewter it could be clearer, if the aren't was in bold and caps!

[boreal pewter]

Indeed

Why reading carefully if you just could look at bold and caps

Every docu should do that with it's 20k words on 30 pages

[clear ferry]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CoarseAgileEyelashpitviper-size_restricted.gif

[boreal pewter]

😄

[hushed basalt]

Just need a bot

That gets triggered on keywords in lounge

TRiGGeREd

[low harness]

There are several neural networks that have been trained to respond to keywords such as "hassio in docker" or "I can't get monster-card to work"

[boreal pewter]

hassio in docker is IMO a permaban

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/track/2G0TyIanxR49LSUzyrj3lK?si=eO5nPIp0TuaBvShyZz0Hkg

@low harness is cogneto a neural network ?

[strange vapor]

@boreal pewter I regularly have to debug really nasty issues caused by "docker on docker" deployments, especially in CI/CD situations. It's at the point where if a dev comes to use with a problem where they're doing docker in docker, we tell them to F**K Off, do a proper setup, and we'll get back to them!

[hushed basalt]

My drone ci runs in a container

But uses the host docker engine, or whatever you want

So no docker inception

[strange vapor]

hmm, docker inception... Going to start tagging those Jiras with that!

[clear ferry]

rather dockerception 🤔

[boreal pewter]

Docker in docker is retarded, no questions. But to think you run hassio in docker while you're not is just Pure stupidity

[hushed basalt]

Time runs slower each layer you go down

[strange vapor]

Waiting for someone to accidentally write a recursive script which does docker all the way down by accident 😄

[hushed basalt]

Inceptionbomb

How about just a docker image which builds itself

[strange vapor]

Isn't that how Skynet started?

[hushed basalt]

No that was because people didn't update Windows 10 often enough

John Connor is actually CSO of Microsoft, and Cortana is skynet. And they're playing an endless dance of zero day exploits and patches

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[clear ferry]

anybody know good software to make code blocks and create graphical annotations to those code blocks for use in powerpoint ?

like this https://res.cloudinary.com/practicaldev/image/fetch/s--s7KQUaMP--/c_limit%2Cf_auto%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_auto%2Cw_880/http://teropa.info/images/angular_1_component_approximation.png

[low harness]

@clear ferry That's why I didn't say artificial neural network.

[clear ferry]

[hushed basalt]

Vsc and snippet tool lol

Arrows in powerpoint

[bronze rock]

renamed '/home.bak' -> '/home/home.bak'``` I'm trying to overwrite /home with the contents of /home.bak, but *it* won't let me. What am I doing wrong?

would sudo mv -v /home.bak/. /home work? Aha! Yes. but now... mv: cannot move '/home.bak/.' to '/home/.': Device or resource busy oh right, i need to do this as a user with no home in /home

but that didn't work either 🤷

[low harness]

overwriting all of /home at once sounds like a bad idea...

[bronze rock]

so, I backed up /home, into /home.old, mounted a new SSD as /home and copied /home.old into it. The SSD died last night (or is dying, I think https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j5vVxcsBS8/) so I copied all of /home (as the SSD) to /home.bak so I could merge what i needed from both the old backup (.old) and the new backup (.bak) and now I've unmounted the SSD so /home is basically empty.

i don't need to move the entirety, but i do need everything in /home.bak/pi back

[boreal pewter]

Well you either remove /home upfront and move /home.bak to /home or you keep /home and move everything from INSIDE home.bak to home

Either way should work just fine being root

[bronze rock]

I'm failing at the syntax of mv for some reason, the latter feels safer to me so what would an example of that be? mv -v /home.bak/* /home?

or do i just move all the dirs inside one by one?

[boreal pewter]

Either
rm -rf /home && mv /home.bak /home
Or mv /home.bak/* /home/

[bronze rock]

The trailing slash was seemingly what I was forgetting. I like how powerful this cli is vs ms, but, it helps a lot if you wield that power correctly 😉

[boreal pewter]

Yup... I assumed so

[bronze rock]

all the .* files in /home.bak/pi didn't move to /home/pi and when I attempted to copy them that didn't work either. How do you move those? lol I suck at this.

[boreal pewter]

They are probably permission 700 and 600?

[bronze rock]

total 84
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root  4096 Sep 12 11:23 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root  4096 Sep 12 11:21 ..
-rw------- 1 root root 33193 Sep 12 03:17 .bash_history
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   220 Sep 12 03:12 .bash_logout``` I attempted to copy as root, so?

root has rw on all from what i can tell

its dawning on me now that I should have put all the docker containers' files not in /home 😂

mv: cannot stat '.bashrc': No such file or directory``` Huh?

[boreal pewter]

Just try to work as root first

[bronze rock]

su to another non pi user allowed me to move those files

i don't have an actual root login

at least, not over SSH

[clear ferry]

if I already have running docker instances, and I didn't start them with compose, can I change that to compose or will I have to recreate them with compose ? 🤔

[boreal pewter]

You don't need to LOGIN as root to become root.. but that should be linux basic

@clear ferry it doesn't matter if they were started with compose or not if you use proper naming and networking in the config itself. But you won't be able to docker-compose down unless it was used docker-compose up -d

[bronze rock]

doesn't sudo run the command as root?

[boreal pewter]

@bronze rock that is not so easy... actually yes but also no. There is also a huge difference between sudo -i and su - and su and so on

[clear ferry]

@boreal pewter I might have misunderstood, but I thought only stuff created through docker-compose can automatically restart on power on of host atleast, or is that possible with stuff I have created with docker run ? I should probably move to compose anyway...

[boreal pewter]

If you do such kind of work just be "real root"

[clear ferry]

@bronze rock Linux for dummies is a good start, 9th edition out now 😏

[bronze rock]

ah, well, i just su root and supplied the correct password, but it wasn't allowed, which I think is a desired outcome over SSH

[boreal pewter]

@clear ferry oh no omg. You can always append the flag --restart=always in a run as well as restart: always to compose

@bronze rock while for root you don't need su root but just su, there again is a difference between su and su -

[bronze rock]

I don't think I can become root, at all, over SSH

[clear ferry]

[boreal pewter]

You can if you did it right...

[bronze rock]

perhaps I'm being unclear, i intentionally set this up so I COULDN'T.

root may only be used at the actual pi itself

[boreal pewter]

While I don't like to repeat... https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/621657896417099798

[clear ferry]

you mean you did permitrootlogin no in sshd_config @bronze rock ?

[boreal pewter]

Maybe an anti-root script? If root logs in, erase all data

[bronze rock]

I just checked sshd_config to be sure, but the whole thing is commented out

[boreal pewter]

LOL

Not really right

@clear ferry take over from here 😄

[clear ferry]

that will only be for ssh access, once you are in with a user and run su that doesn't matter

[bronze rock]

If you guys wanna be funny, we can be done, but if you want to actually be helpful, instead of derisive, that'd be nice

"For chat around things that aren't Home Assistant related, like whether Docker or Kubernetes, or Celcius or Kelvin, or Celcius or Celsius, or anything. NO POLITICS or RELIGION and BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently."

[boreal pewter]

First off commenting things out in sshd config doesn't deactivate them, it just makes them use the default.

And now the 3rd time, LOGGING IN AS ROOT AND BECOME ROOT ARE 2 THINGS

[clear ferry]

logging in as root ssh root@192.168.1.1 makes you master of the house upon login, becoming root ssh user@192.168.1.1 then su su - sudo su or any other means just makes you enter the house as a resident, then becoming the master of the house

Obligatory https://open.spotify.com/track/3IAKpoMwMFLV73Xt75jjvb?si=aUOggDbhQL-NhMchPwompw

[bronze rock]

I have no idea what the password is (I would have only set it to 1 thing, and that's not working). That doesn't make any sense though, because as other users when I use sudo, it forces me to use the password, and that does work. Any reason that would happen?

[boreal pewter]

First batch of my crowdfunded vacuum cleaner is getting shipped

[clear ferry]

@bronze rock is your user in the sudoers group ? if so do sudo su and enter your user password, then change the root password by issuing passwd

brb, I have to power up a cisco switch to make a lab for some people

[bronze rock]

sudo:x:27:pi,moveryet as pi I never get asked to authenticate sudo uses but as mover I do

[clear ferry]

@hearty depot had the same question a while back

[velvet horizon]

Underknowledge is away for 14h 13m 3s with a message :point_right: zzZzzzZZz....

[clear ferry]

you have to enforce it to do it

https://askubuntu.com/questions/192050/how-to-run-sudo-command-with-no-password

second answer

[bronze rock]

sudo su worked... 😄

I was trying su su - ... I never attempted to run it with sudo until now, oops 🙂 Thanks @clear ferry and @boreal pewter

[clear ferry]

that will only work if your system has sudo and the users are in the sudoers group

so don't think it will work on any system 😉

learn all ways to do stuff

[bronze rock]

I'm trying

[strange vapor]

@clear ferry I have systemd units for starting docker instances on start.

Works a charm and means they "survive" reboot.

[clear ferry]

hmmm, got examples ? 🤣

[strange vapor]

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=systemd+unit+docker+container 😇

[low harness]

Don't containers restart after a reboot if started with --restart always?

[boreal pewter]

Yeah

That is just totally waste of time imo

[strange vapor]

@low harness Yup, but if you need other services started before what's in the container gets started, having a Systemd Unit can be extremely handy.

[restive pond]

Hi ! 🙂

I'm looking for to implement domotic installation at home

[low harness]

Domoticz? I'm afraid you got the wrong number...

[restive pond]

Not the product Domoticz ahah

Until now i hesitated between Domoticz and Home Assistant, but i'm going to install Home Assistant which seems much more complete and updated

[low harness]

Ok... I looked it up. Had never heard of "domotic" as a synonym for Home Automation before.. I think you're making the right choice. Moved over from domoticz myself about a year ago.

[restive pond]

Oh sorry, i'm french, i though it was the same term in english 😉

[low harness]

Might be. I'm Swedish, so I wouldn't know either.

[restive pond]

I'm a newbee in the home automation field, so the community is important for my choice

That's why i selected Home Assistant

I saw a lot of people moving from Domoticz to Home Asisstant

I already have a Raspberry pi 3b+, there is a NAS (samba) installed actualy, but i'm going to get a Pi 4 and move the NAS on it, for best speed (ethernet 1 gbps and USB 3.0)

So my 3b+ will be free to install my home assistant

[low harness]

I think it would be best to move this discussion to the #330944238910963714 channel. This one is for discussions about everything but Home Assistant, actually.

[restive pond]

Yes 😉

[hearty depot]

?

Bad Security from the raspberryfoundation imo

[boreal pewter]

@hearty depot

https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/621662493990977556

[hearty depot]

Ping - ping - pings everywhere!!11

[boreal pewter]

@hearty depot

[hearty depot]

Uuh cool

[boreal pewter]

😄

[hearty depot]

Ha compatible? :D

[boreal pewter]

Mh I guess not but it's not a robot, I already got one 😄

It just gonna be my new manually one

It has app control tho

Probably not very senseful anyway

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/roidmi-nex-storm-a-smart-cordless-vacuum-with-mop

[hearty depot]

New toy for the wife?
But to vacuum cleaners - I just love the hyla

[restive pond]

@tawny pebble Concerning the NAS, i just want to access to my network drive when i'm outside of my personal network (from any PC with Windows, without configure anything else, just typing the IP on the file explorer ;)), and the router provided by my ISP have a NAS feature but i can't open it on the web. So after 3 years, i found the Raspberry solution and it works fine (I had an ADSL connexion so the upload speed was so much slow that it was not usefull to by a "true" samba NAS... but next week i will have the fiber in my new appartment so i'm looking for move it on a more powerfull device...)

😉

[tawny pebble]

A question for english native speakers:
How would you group home appliances like a wasching machine / coffee machine etc into a more broad group that would contain also a drumset / guitar / recording gear / gaming PCs (pc, ps4..) ??

not limited to this but also not strict to home appliaces

[boreal pewter]

You mean how to call it?

[tawny pebble]

@restive pond ohhh i see! ok

[bronze rock]

@boreal pewter are those vacuums going to be available elsewhere after the initial mailout?

[tawny pebble]

@boreal pewter yeah.. automations start to be too much and the folder is filled with file.
The group "Lights" was easy to create.. but this

oh, other topic, lol

[boreal pewter]

@bronze rock yeah most likely but even more expensive

@tawny pebble but this is #the-water-cooler

[bronze rock]

too late to jump in now right?

[tawny pebble]

correct, it seems stupid to ask it in other groups

[boreal pewter]

@bronze rock yeah ended 2 weeks ago or so

[clear ferry]

you know companies have shitty automatic systems that generate users and emails when you get a mail from [e-mail]

single character first name, full last name, and just a appended number

must be nice to have on your business card

[boreal pewter]

There was once a funny picture of naming where just a few first characters of first and last name were taken and that resulted in like "fot.ze" which is translated to cunt

This could be similiar but probably fake

[clear ferry]

🤣

zzz designing a networking lab for people who are both advanced and novices at once

what to keep, what to exclude

[strange vapor]

Token Ring, AUI Converters, some hubs and RIP

[undone aspen]

Well, I made my first custom automation in HASS, and it works. 😄

[vast dove]

✨

[scenic radish]

i've gotten tired of my google home often not hearing me when i say "good night" even though it's right next to me on my nightstand. so, i bought a smartthings button, connected it to home assistant with my zigbee stick, and programmed the button press to carry out my good night routine. the best part in my opinion is that it still plays the white noise that the google home would play as part of the routine, except that it plays directly from my raspberry pi instead of the ☁ because i downloaded it

also, the smartthings hardware is seriously nice and not terribly expensive. $20 water leak sensors that connect directly to the pi with the zigbee stick, no smartthings hub required

[scenic radish]

@undone aspen what is it

[hearty depot]

aaah Fufufu - Thats probably Why I dont enjoy to build a PC myself - Everything is in - turns on, fan is spinning... black screen

[undone aspen]

Oh.. I just replaced a "SmartThings Smart Lights" automation with HASS doing it. When motion is detected in the living room motion sensor between certain hours, turn on the living room light till 2 minutes after motion stops", but I'm adding in a condition tonight. "if the apple TV is off or idle"

[quartz ether]

@hearty depot building pcs is easy.

[hearty depot]

Did it the last time when the Pentium 4 did come out 🤣

building.. yes..
Getting it stated.. no?

.... my cpu is to new for the mainboard maybe..

[light trout]

amd cpu without video? 😛

[hearty depot]

nope - the CPU is to new that the mainboard would know that it is a CPU FUFUFUFU
Shure thing that I hit this particular type of board 🤣

[scenic radish]

@undone aspen nice, good stuff.

[undone aspen]

Yeah. I noticed the issue with the motion sensor turning on the lights because of being... Well, in the living room, watching TV. 😉

Which for me, is usually the Apple TV.

Since... I can detect what the Apple TV is actually doing... I can set it up to have a condition not to do so. Not so much with some of the other devices there, yet, though. Possibly could do that with the BluRay Player, since it's network connected, and only shows up when it's powered up.

[scenic radish]

yep. the endless condition possibilities are part of what makes home assistant automation so powerful

that, and templating

[undone aspen]

Exactly. 😄

I'm looking into how to get that condition now. 🙂

[boreal pewter]

@hearty depot what is the matter?

[hearty depot]

Mainboard doesnt recconice the CPU
🤞 just flashing an bios update

nope...

There is an newer bios update... maybe this one - otherwise... Putting everything apart again and back to where its coming from

[jaunty summit]

what CPU/mobo did you get?

[scenic radish]

@undone aspen: if you want the automation to only fire if the apple tv is idle or off, use this:

condition:
  condition: or
  conditions:
  - condition: state
    entity_id: media_player.living_room
    state: 'off'
  - condition: state
    entity_id: media_player.living_room
    state: 'idle'

replace living_room with whatever entity_id your apple tv is

[undone aspen]

Oh, dang, thats even simpler than the homeassistant channel was suggesting.

[scenic radish]

they don't know what they're talking about over there 😉

jk, i don't know if they understood what you were asking

[undone aspen]

heheh

[scenic radish]

made a typo, look again

[undone aspen]

Hmmm.. So, one more thing, how would I combine that with a sun.sun below_horizon as well so it only triggers at night time?

That would be, and + or combined. 😉

[hearty depot]

A MSI b450 + Ryzen 7 3700x @jaunty summit

[scenic radish]

i'll dm you, this is out of the scope of #the-water-cooler and i don't want @clever mortar to get mad 😉

[velvet horizon]

Tinkerer is away for 19h 13m 18s with a message :point_right: Searching... Searching... Tinkerer not found. Reset reality? 🇾 /🇳

[vast dove]

Please use #330944238910963714 for related support, this is for off-topic.

[undone aspen]

Sure. 🙂

[scenic radish]

or @vast dove 😉 (sorry)

[vast dove]

Or use PM and don’t share knowledge with others 😉

[scenic radish]

it's my knowledge

if i share it, it becomes everyone's knowledge

[vast dove]

IMHO its better to share in a public channel, but what do i know 😄

[scenic radish]

and what is this, community-developed software?

pffh

[undone aspen]

lol

[boreal pewter]

@hearty depot Ryzen 3k are known to not work with any older bios version than the newest

And since most of these mainboards are made for Ryzen 2k they ofc do not ship with the latest version 😄

[hearty depot]

Idea Wich board I shall order next 🤣
Just packing up this deam thing again

[boreal pewter]

You could google for known forums if there is any discussion of a board from a seller whoch -most likely- could have the newest version

I would simply guess none

You could rent from a friend, you could also google for "AMD sending install CPU's" or so, you could get one from Amazon and just a ship it back then

I think you just need any Ryzen 1k or 2k, or any AM4

[hearty depot]

That Mainboard would have an USB flash mode
But doesn't recognize anyway

(flashed the newest version)