the-water-cooler

[clear ferry]

And middle Eastern cuisine

[unkempt umbra]

atxbyea: yeah, same here

[midnight adder]

Ah good one

Good taste @unkempt umbra @boreal pewter @clear ferry

I like Asian food too

Not as i have ate too much

[boreal pewter]

I love the KFC crunch tho. There is nothing else comparable at fast food

[midnight adder]

I cooked miso soup once

[hearty depot]

@strange vapor awesome statue 🤣

[midnight adder]

Tried ramen

And some cheap chinese restaurants 😄

[boreal pewter]

Ramen is the most difficult I think?

[midnight adder]

But i am not@sure if those even count

Hmm, it is not that difficult

More like expensive i think

If you want authentic materials

Ingredients sorry

[hearty depot]

go for Bao buns and Dim-sum

[midnight adder]

Is that vietnamese?

[hearty depot]

chinees or at least asian

[midnight adder]

Sounds kinda vietnamese

But not sure

[hearty depot]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gua_bao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dim_sum
I love wikipedia for this 🤣 both cineese

[midnight adder]

Looks awesome

Bonjour! what is going on here guys?

[boreal pewter]

@fallow fox @midnight adder https://www.paypal.me/Wildling0720

[midnight adder]

Oh thank you @boreal pewter you really care about this, right?

You are the best

[boreal pewter]

😛

[midnight adder]

I cannot tell how much I appreciate your help

[fallow fox]

Hey everyone! I have a work-related question for you! We have a operations room, with 4 work stations. On each workstation we have an two-way audio panel that we use for communication with up to 64 destinations. These panels have analog in/out on the back, and we want to use them with a wireless headset. I was starting doing research for this, and I am unable to find any bluetooth adapters that support two-way simultaneous audio?? Does anyone know of something we can use??

[midnight adder]

what is this funding?

[boreal pewter]

For wildling a raspi

[midnight adder]

ahaha

going well?

[boreal pewter]

Ask him how much is still needed

[midnight adder]

as the lounge seems a bit dead today

[fallow fox]

@midnight adder If you're bored, I'd love som help with my issue! 😛

[midnight adder]

you want me to donate? 😄

just after you sir

ah kiddin

@fallow fox how can I help you?

[fallow fox]

Take a look at my question 7 comments up...

😉

[strange vapor]

@fallow fox I've used this with a bluetooth headset without issue: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07CZ4C8K2

[midnight adder]

ah I see

hmm, will think about it

[boreal pewter]

Participating at #the-water-cooler requires a donation at wildling 😛

[fallow fox]

@strange vapor So you connect a headset to it, and the you can listen in the headset and also use the headset mic?

[midnight adder]

I need to do some research

hah, what is the required amount?

😄

[boreal pewter]

As much as you want, I'm not Hitler 😄

[strange vapor]

Yup. Have used it with Skype and Zoom for work without issue.

[midnight adder]

@boreal pewter it is nice of you to help him out

However i will not pay 👿 😈

[fallow fox]

@strange vapor Interesting!!

[midnight adder]

Im the evil imp

and @fallow fox wont pay either

[fallow fox]

@strange vapor I will have to do a test with that!

[midnight adder]

until he gets the proper bluetooth dongle

Thank anyhow

Thank you again @boreal pewter for promoting my cause

@boreal pewter by the way since when you are tinkering with HA and Raspberry?

[boreal pewter]

I have done a very active setup, I think a few months ago and I only had the Pi 2b for years with no use. But the speed was soooo fucking annoying. It is 2019 and everything that takes more than 5 seconds is just to long IMO so I built my Deskmini now

[clear ferry]

[boreal pewter]

My Git is a bit documented too

https://github.com/Anon0511/hass

I still would have to do dozens of stuff but I honestly just went into my lazy life-circle again

I haven't even added my new car yet into HASS

[strange vapor]

@boreal pewter Get one of @clear ferry's Synergy 12000 chassis'!!! I'm sure he'll do you a deal!

[boreal pewter]

No 19" rack or huge things that disturb the view of my pretty small flat or my waifu kills me

[clear ferry]

Sure, but wouldn't your rather want the HPE The Machine prototype

Memory driven photonics supercomputer

[midnight adder]

Thank you for the link @boreal pewter

Will save it

For future knowledge

[boreal pewter]

Don't forget

[velvet horizon]

His GitHub and his blog

Command '.Tinkerer' was invoked by: 󠀀󠀀 󠀀󠀀

[clear ferry]

I need to add a readme to my GitHub soon

[velvet horizon]

Have a Walk Around

Command '.vasiley' was invoked by: atxbyea

[midnight adder]

😄

Thank you guys

[boreal pewter]

I currently setup my Deskmini, I started yesterday with the OS

[midnight adder]

Oh I see

I built it from scratch?

[boreal pewter]

Now I need to transfer all data from pi to it, correct the compose files and reconfigure everything

[midnight adder]

😄

Oh

You’ve got things to do 😄

how its going wild?

You need to take it outside its aquarium set it free in the nature and eventually it will be wild 😉

Whatever it is

whaat

this guy 😄

[boreal pewter]

With the $$$ he becomes wild 😄

[midnight adder]

😄

are you sure @boreal pewter ?

[boreal pewter]

No 🤔

[midnight adder]

😂

Maybe i will

so for reel m8

Its around 5 people now

Going good

Thanks to these nice guys around

One pending of those but will arrive eventually

It is even more that I ever expected from strangers

I am quite stunned

[boreal pewter]

HA I'm strange

[midnight adder]

Doctor or Mister? 😄

[boreal pewter]

Life Goal achieved

[midnight adder]

Or Things

🤔

[boreal pewter]

Strange dude

if I may

[midnight adder]

😄

[clear ferry]

You can call me Miss

[midnight adder]

Anything Strange Dude

Miss@Stranger atxbyea 500 flights 0% afraid

😄

[boreal pewter]

@clear ferry went to school with Bill Gates

[clear ferry]

I went to school with a guy who looked like bill gates atleast

[midnight adder]

Legends 😄

[boreal pewter]

atxbyea invented the first lan ever

[clear ferry]

I atleast hosted one of the first lan parties in my hometown 🤷

In 1997 😛

Which still goes on today, for the 22 year

[late gate]

tg?

[clear ferry]

TromsøLAN

Or the one before it really

LunheimLAN

Also KvaløyLAN, KrokenLAN, NaIT, LANo and a few more 😛

[late gate]

ah cool. except to locals lans I have just been part of TG hehe

a long, long time ago when I worked in hw.no :p

[clear ferry]

Never been to TG, was too busy making better LANs 😛

[late gate]

tg was quite good back in the days when the main purpose was piracy and burn to cds hehe

[midnight adder]

Ah sounds interesting

[clear ferry]

Or, I was invited once to meet some crew there many years ago

Went to, stopped by for a few hours

[midnight adder]

I am a bit sad that I missed these good things

[late gate]

I had a show on the gathering tv on behalf on hardware.no man that was too stressy

[midnight adder]

Hah

[late gate]

sad thing those clips are still on their ftp server

cringy!

[clear ferry]

Fun fact, the island I grew up on is called Monkey Island by the locals because there were so many gamers there

[midnight adder]

I hope i get ahold of it sometimes

[late gate]

haha, now I want to play monkey island :p

[midnight adder]

Few more infos and Ill start to write your bio 😄

[clear ferry]

Monkey Island is only playable if you have a Roland mt32!

https://youtu.be/Pdd2CNlcqn0

[late gate]

were you part of #hw on irc or too young for that @clear ferry at least that was the norwegian gathering place for the root nerds :p

[clear ferry]

Never was on #hw, but I started on IRC back in... 95 I think

Before that only BBS

[late gate]

thats sad was a fun community

dont think the internet is that close knitted anymore in groups

[midnight adder]

@late gate maybe but this group is closely knitted enough to help me out 😄

[unkempt umbra]

atxbyea, I've been an irc junkie since '89

[midnight adder]

@unkempt umbra maybe he is already on the plane 😄

[unkempt umbra]

cpuld be.

[strange vapor]

@clear ferry There's a few Roland midi devices which can be started up in MT-32 mode, especially in the JV series 😄

[clear ferry]

@strange vapor fap!

I always wanted one, my cousin had a mt32

I need to get around to play with my Triton...

Sometime after Christmas

[strange vapor]

Looks like I'm heading for AWS Re:Invent this year 😃

[midnight adder]

Do you think one should use NodeRed or learn proper Text like automations instead?

without gui

[unreal orbit]

"Proper text automation" lol. You're going to get opinions, but ultimately you need to do what feels best to you. There is no "proper" way to do it. Node-red can interact with more things than just HA, so yaml automations are not really comparable.

[clear ferry]

I prefer classic automations 🤷

[boreal pewter]

I prefer AI that does what I want even before I know I want something

[late gate]

depends on the amount and complications maybe?

[boreal pewter]

I just dunno where to get it

[light trout]

Some folks call that a wife 🤷

[unreal orbit]

That's because you don't have complicated automations 😉 @clear ferry

[boreal pewter]

Well my wife requires me to know what she wants before she knows that she wants something

[light trout]

That sounds more corerct, I might have mixed up the role management there

[clear ferry]

@unreal orbit I'm an easy guy 😛

[late gate]

I do what im being told or hell is loose

[clear ferry]

Damn we got a lot of turbulence going down now

[unreal orbit]

When it comes down to it for me, node-red automations can do anything a HA automation can do. It does not go the other way around.

[clear ferry]

People scared of flying will be worried 😂

[late gate]

@clear ferry those people have not been landed in the himalayas. when I went there it was a quite strange experience landing and taking off as the runway was not long enough

[unreal orbit]

The only exception is having an automation with HA starting as the trigger. Even then it just doesn't work as well in node-red, but still semi-possible

[clear ferry]

Had a friend go there, he said it was the strangest flight ever

Straight up, then landing

[late gate]

it was horrible lol people screaming

[clear ferry]

Or was that the one up to machu pichu maybe

[late gate]

nice place though, but never again vacation where you get altitude sicknes

[clear ferry]

I'm looking forward to Hong Kong, landing sideways in wind 😛

Wtf, multiple people dead after lightning in Poland

[orchid rose]

lightnings kill quite a lot of people iirc

shit's scary

[clear ferry]

I sit outside in lightning storms

[orchid rose]

as long as you're shorter than a tree and not next to the tallest tree you should be fine 😄

[clear ferry]

And I'm making a lightning lamp for my daughter's room that will utilize WWLN in HA to trigger when lightning is near

I'm fat and sitting, I'll be ok 😛

[orchid rose]

Not sure if fat is a great insulator tbh

[light trout]

Sitting outside with a beer during a lightningstorm is one of my favorite things to do 😛

[clear ferry]

Sure is, repels the ladies, by logic it will repel lightning 😛

[orchid rose]

Love thunderstorms as well. As long as we're not sailing

[clear ferry]

Come saaaaaaiil awaaaay

https://open.spotify.com/track/0PsbWiVtix5FoTZ1s00mEl?si=GQeIiD1lQEmVacSo7rAJHA

[orchid rose]

https://www.limitlane.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/733975.gif

[midnight adder]

I am here sorry guyz

@orchid rose @boreal pewter @unreal orbit @late gate @light trout Thank you for the answers

Then I think i will see when i get there

Btw where r u from guyz?

[boreal pewter]

Germanistan

[clear ferry]

🇳🇴

[clever mortar]

Planet Earth...
🌍 🌎 🌏

[clear ferry]

Thought you were an Eldritch horror

[clever mortar]

Let's pretend it's that positive 😉

Easier to accept that than a Polity swarm AI

[clear ferry]

Shubb'tinkuru father of cosmic automation

[late gate]

https://tenor.com/view/norway-gif-10837452

[midnight adder]

Hehe 😄

[clear ferry]

That looks like @doctor_mod

[midnight adder]

@boreal pewter do you think I should promote it once in a while?

[orchid rose]

Wildling, I think I finally caught my Nuc btw. 90€ for a i5 one from a 4-5 years ago. Maybe a bit pricey, but it does come with a keyboard etc

[clear ferry]

Ermeegerd keyboard

[boreal pewter]

Maybe, it's getting evening in the most important continents and even @clever mortar is here to spend a buck

[clear ferry]

Is it a Yamaha one?

[orchid rose]

one thing less to buy 😛

[clever mortar]

I prefer spending pounds, while they still have some value @boreal pewter 😉

[boreal pewter]

I guess for Wilfling that's is great too

[clear ferry]

Atleast one more month @clever mortar

[boreal pewter]

We started a crowdfunding for him today midday for a Pi

[hearty depot]

coufh brexit

[clear ferry]

That cough sounds bad, you should see a doctor

[orchid rose]

getting dangerously close to taboo topics here 🙈

[boreal pewter]

Taboo? Wtf is that

[clear ferry]

[boreal pewter]

With my birth I signed the freedom of speech contract

[clear ferry]

Nein nein nein

[midnight adder]

So i Would be real grateful if you were so kind to contribute to my cause and my happiness a wee bit

Everythings counts guys if you will to help me out

Few guys helped me out already

https://www.paypal.me/Wildling0720

Around 5-6 people helped me already. However if you cannot do it is is alright and thank you for even considering to help me with your own money.

[clear ferry]

But it only counts if you donate in strange currencies

[clever mortar]

I've got a bunch of Lira in a drawer somewhere

[midnight adder]

😄

I have NOK, USD and EUR so far

😄

The goal is around 90 eur, and i’ve already got around 30 from these guys in order to help my learning. Thanks to them again

Monopoly money will do

Or credits

[unreal orbit]

Is there a reason you can't purchase a pi on your own?

[clear ferry]

@clever mortar can donate a gallon of haggis, must be worth something to someone

[clever mortar]

You only get them by the gallon if you've run them through the blender first...

[midnight adder]

Thanks for explaining @boreal pewter btw

[clear ferry]

@clever mortar can't get worse than before the blending 😛

[clever mortar]

Clearly somebody hasn't tried White Pudding

[unreal orbit]

Being deserving is up to the donator to decide, I was just curious about the reason. No offense meant

[fallow hedge]

@midnight adder if a pi is out of reach where you are, maybe you could find an old used laptop. You could install linux, and do almost anything on it!

[clear ferry]

When I move to zigbee2mqtt maybe I should install a new instance of home assistance, with the old ZigBee gateways connected to stuff, and a webcam, and people can login and turn my lab lights on and off and watch me get annoyed irl 😂

Damn kids !

[fallow hedge]

or hook it up to twitter? then we can all tweet the lights on and off!

[clear ferry]

[fallow hedge]

and have it reply to each tweet with a pic of the light

[boreal pewter]

Nah a TrumpApproves picture

[clear ferry]

Damn black clouds here now

[midnight adder]

@fallow hedge yeah but Pi only uses a few watts

[orchid rose]

laptops won't use much more

[midnight adder]

@unreal orbit maybe u are right

[unreal orbit]

I wasn't trying to make a point, just curiosity 🤷

[clear ferry]

Hell, my blade enclosure with server and networking only uses 290ish watts

[orchid rose]

the modern cpus are really good at energy saving. Twenty years ago it was slightly different

stop abusing it atxbyea!

[clear ferry]

[orchid rose]

I actually haven't marked how much my current setup uses. I used to for years and it was weird because after every upgrade the consumption just fell

[clear ferry]

I had a G4 setup with 2x1 core, 12gb ram and 6 drives, used 500w, my current g7 with 2x12core plus 192gb ram and 14 drives, plus 10g switch and blade enclosure is 290

[orchid rose]

hehe, ye

[fallow hedge]

if @midnight adder is from a developing country, the cost of electricity could be a financial burden. I can see why the 5w of a pi is appealing

[orchid rose]

it depends on what sort of laptop you can get for the same money, but the recent ones should be pretty efficient as well

NUC is about the same as a Pi and uses laptop components afterall

[fallow hedge]

ya, and with undercolting the processor, he could get it down

[clear ferry]

My laptop has a 150w PSU

[orchid rose]

that PSU alone probably uses the five watts 😄

[clear ferry]

Or more

[orchid rose]

Got to love Google sometimes. I found a study on laptop power consumption

[fallow hedge]

out of curiosity, what country do you live in @midnight adder ?

[orchid rose]

...it's from 2004

[midnight adder]

Hungary

If it needs to go all day 100-200 watt is a lot sadly

[orchid rose]

my gaming PC uses less than that and it's from 2011 and overclocked

[unkempt umbra]

my NAS consumes 50watts

[fallow hedge]

i think an optimized laptop could run in the 25w range under low load

[orchid rose]

in case someone is interested, a Lenovo ThinkBook 13s idles at 3.1-6.6 watts

home assistant would count mostly as idle load I feel, but I could be wrong

[unreal orbit]

Depends on what you're using it for

[fallow hedge]

nevertheless, i've always thought its amazing how people who dont have huge resources find creative solutions. good job @midnight adder for coming here and getting help!

[orchid rose]

cameras and such would increase the load significantly, so I can only really speak for my setup which doesn't seem to use any resources at all from a x86 cpu

[fallow hedge]

maybe an esp device could accomplish the same thing. Esp if it's just some triggers and conditions

What could run on a wemos d1 and act as a barebones home-assistant?

[orchid rose]

you'd quickly run out of memory on those I guess

51MB on mine right now

[fallow hedge]

what if he let somebody else pay for power. Deploy on a free hosting provider, maybe zeit, and have everthing talk to the cloud

[midnight adder]

@fallow hedge thank you however i feel a bit shamed by it

And still not sure that the money will get together

As none sent any in the past few hours

Thank you for the numbers

Around electricity

It is quite interesting

And useful

[boreal pewter]

Damn one of the AMD Epyc dropped hard in price, https://www.hardwarehouse.de/product_info.php?products_id=7869026

Get those 48 threads 🤣

[hearty depot]

lol - here I sit on my i5-7600K

[boreal pewter]

I yet have 3 AMDs, 3400g in the deskmini and 2 2700x in the gaming rigs

[clear ferry]

Zzzz epyc

Poor design, from a shitty company 😛

[hearty depot]

got a nice saying here in german.
intel den arsch auf Ryzen

[past idol]

I've heard 2200G is quite good for mini pc rigs

[ruby quiver]

If I were to set up home assistant in a pi, and attached it to a router that has no WAN coming in, and will only be LAN- will I be able to use it to utilize automation in things like lights, etc? I know google searches and stuff probably won't work, more so looking for the automations

[hearty depot]

@ruby quiver ha is a grate cloud replacement. Done this in an mountainhouse with some tasmota switches.

[clear ferry]

Anything you control locally will work

Tuya for example will not work with stock firmware, nor will any other cloud dependent hardware

[ruby quiver]

Awesome news, plan to set it up in a mobile trailer to control the entire thing (going to be pretty sweet)

& it wont have access to WAN, period, so its REALLY good news HA doesn't need it 🙂

[clear ferry]

https://i.redd.it/8ld8g34ve0i31.jpg

[unkempt umbra]

not quite understanding how such things work, I think.

[hearty depot]

Fanboyz

I hate apple since 2013

(my ha runs on a MacBook pro btw )

the reason for my rage to this company btw

[hushed basalt]

What iz Apple card

[glossy mortar]

Well, obviously, you're storing it wrong.

[hushed basalt]

Looks like just a credit card

Trust Apple to 'revolutionize' things

https://youtu.be/Xgls9IwWUyU

This is from 2008 too

[glossy mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE

Also a classic.

[clear ferry]

I prefer this one https://youtu.be/cvXZVJXIyqM

[eager trench]

they are all good lol

[clear ferry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/bertstrips/comments/cu3lm8/an_honest_mistake/

[past idol]

hello

[past idol]

Would a celeron in an itx board be enough for ha?

1gig ram

[clear ferry]

Yes, it will be better than a pi probably

[past idol]

I see

rather old dho

Wonder whether if its an integrated itx . Because as far as i know itx boards are rather new formats

[boreal pewter]

No they're not

[clear ferry]

No, i had an itx machine almost 20 years ago

[past idol]

Really?

[clear ferry]

Mini-ITX is a 17 × 17 cm (6.7 × 6.7 in) motherboard, developed by VIA Technologiesin 2001.[1] T

[boreal pewter]

If have the money and want something modular, extendable and future-proof you simply take a Deskmini A300

[past idol]

how your day going guyz?

lounge seems quite today

Yeah I will

or a nuc not sure yet

[boreal pewter]

Well as said, what I said is not a NUC

[past idol]

next month or so

Yeah i know deskmini

[boreal pewter]

modular, extendable and future-proof

[orchid rose]

can it even run Crysis Anon?

[boreal pewter]

= no NUC

[past idol]

Inafraid it would be overkill

[boreal pewter]

Sure, 200 FPS

😄

[clear ferry]

Nuc, pathetic 😛

[past idol]

Hehe

and also i can setup my own

[orchid rose]

The Nuc I was supposed to buy for 90€ went to someone else for 100€. Damn capitalism...

[clear ferry]

Give me something with 10 fans and 10 or 40g Ethernet 😛

[past idol]

thinking about FD Node 202 and 2200g ryzen

Ah from ebay?

[boreal pewter]

lol 2200g

What's the matter with an 3400g, costs only 140 bucks

[past idol]

You r laughing on it?! 😄 how u dare

[clear ferry]

Lol AMD, pathetic 😛

[past idol]

You managed to raise the funds Anon?

[boreal pewter]

Nah

[past idol]

The only reason I am thinkin bout getting one sooner is that vmware seems to produce strange anomalies

[clear ferry]

Running os based virtualization is meh always, if you only had proper virtualization 😛

[past idol]

@low stratusn it went well as i saw , weird

Yeah ur right

[orchid rose]

My cpu doesn't support virtualization 😐

[past idol]

however i like solving problems

along with hou guys hehe

i ask

you to solve it

😄

[clear ferry]

@orchid rose is it from 2001? Because any modern CPU can do some kind of virtualization, even the G4 380 I had could run 20vms

[orchid rose]

almost. i5 2500k from 2011 or so. The last one that didn't have full support for it I think

[past idol]

Oh nice

i had that just without he k

[boreal pewter]

I can't take any common i processor serious anymore

[past idol]

quite viable still

[boreal pewter]

At least those who have been sold a lot and not too new

[clear ferry]

@orchid rose will still work fine for virtualization

[orchid rose]

Virtualbox or whatever I tried, cried about it

[past idol]

Try vmware

[clear ferry]

It will complain probably, if you haven't enabled intel-vt in the bios

But will definitely run vms

And run a proper hypervisor, esxi 😛

[orchid rose]

it ran the android vm I tried, but slowly (and cried about it too). Maybe I haven't enabled it in bios though

it lacks support for VT-d though

(whatever that is)

[clear ferry]

That it just for io virtualization

On top of intel-vt

[orchid rose]

okay

[clear ferry]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_virtualization?wprov=sfla1

[orchid rose]

I don't really have any use for it right now, but I'll try and remember to check when I reboot next time

[clear ferry]

Intel has supported vt since 2005 according to that

[orchid rose]

HA runs fine on Windows 😉

[clear ferry]

🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢

[orchid rose]

using IIS as well

[past idol]

😂

So funny that my ali order arrived within 4 days

and will arrive only in september

even if its in the country

How hard it is to move from. Mware setup to real?

can i copy my stuff

like configuration.yaml and etc

[orchid rose]

should work with just copy-paste

[clear ferry]

You can move from any setup to any setup with ha

It is all the same

[midnight adder]

Hello

[past idol]

Oy

sounds good

as a lot of people bragged about how hard it is to move

and i was wondering

because technically the whole thing is in a few files

the first thing was the custom component today

which needed to put some folders into another ones

[midnight adder]

@boreal pewter how are you m8?

[orchid rose]

HA is hard if you don't understand the basic concepts of computers and you're not willing to learn them. I know plenty of people I would not recommend HA to 😄

[past idol]

it is definitely not easy

yet the community seems quite good

and that helps a lot

[clear ferry]

Moving ha is done in less than 10 minutes normally

[past idol]

sounds good

[hushed basalt]

Put HA on a kubernetes cluster

Then you can just destroy it at will

[clear ferry]

🤢

[past idol]

😄

i do not even perfectly know why am i using docker

[clear mirage]

just came across these on amazon - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MV1RTSV?pf_rd_p=183f5289-9dc0-416f-942e-e8f213ef368b&pf_rd_r=CRPD2GHFNAFMDZ5NX06S

[clear ferry]

Probably tuya based @clear mirage

[clear mirage]

@clear ferry most lilkely, i have similar ones by Kuled that i was able to flash with tasmota and they work pretty well. But not a bad deal though $45 for a 4-pack

[clear ferry]

If they only were EU type 😛

[clear mirage]

lol.

[past idol]

wonder if I should buy something like this:

https://www.gigabyte.com/Mini-PcBarebone/GB-BACE-3160-rev-10

or a Raspberry Pi4 4 Gig memory

[hushed basalt]

Containers for life

Vms are for infrastructure nerds who like to burn capital, memory and power :D

[past idol]

😄

@clear ferry

guys, what if I buy an external ssd now install linux on it with HA on my PC

and when Pi/mini pc arrives i just plug the external ssd in

it wont work right? as the components change

[past elm]

@past idol If it was such easy, everyone would have don it 😄 Sadly, OSes are still huge dependant of the hardware and making those kind of pre-installation is still not so easy to do

[boreal pewter]

@midnight adder vacation mood with some salt and pepper, or rather when not working at work with servers I work at home with servers

[midnight adder]

@boreal pewter Sounds good 😄

[past idol]

@past elm maybe you are right 😄

i figured it out

i will use my old laptop

however I do not have a micro sd reader or anything

therefor i will use my old phone to put in the micro sd plug it to the laptop and install linux / ha on it 😄

master plan 😄

[boreal pewter]

Err

Why?

[past idol]

@boreal pewter 😄 using VMWare currently and there is still 2 weeks until I get my hands on Zigbeemqqt dongle and raspberry pi4 or some mini pc

and i want something i can run whole day

I cannot do it with my pc

a laptop consumes less power dho

[boreal pewter]

Yeah, having an old laptop implies for me at least that it at least has a HDD. And even a 2,5" 5900RPM 64MB Cache HDD is better than attaching somehow a SD card to it IMO

[past idol]

maybe

it has an ssd

but its nearly full

[boreal pewter]

Even better...

[past idol]

so i needed to create a new partition

and i also fear for data loss

this ssd is full of important files

yet I have not managed to backup them

[boreal pewter]

How can you fear data loss using proper HA-backup strategies?

[past idol]

you mean?

currently they are out of raspberry pi here sadly 😄

cannot get ahold of one

[boreal pewter]

Well you usually would want to have all data on a seperate huge HDD/server/device, having the most important things on 2 more USB things and have another decentral paid backup server like Backblaze

That would at least be the standard

[past idol]

yeah

not managed to build a system like this, yet

[boreal pewter]

For me it's a 8TB HDD for 139 bucks and backblaze, as well as private Git repos and USB sticks

[past idol]

I am planning this for quite a while

also want a private NAS to backup things

yet there were more important things

or maybe i just do not know how important is this until i gets lost

it*

[boreal pewter]

With NAS, the cheapest option to use backblaze would probably not be possible. So calculate some more bucks per month for that one

[past idol]

I never heard of backblaze, though not sure I trust it

I do not really trust my data on cloud services, like google drive, one drive, icloud etc

not like that i have so many things to hide, yet the idea that strangers go through my things feels yuck

[boreal pewter]

In that case money isn't an issue for you then, because dedicated storage boxes aka server itself cost a lot more than those options 😄

[past idol]

ah

[boreal pewter]

And even then the hoster will most likely still have backdoors, as well as hardware issues which can quickly lead to data loss

[unreal orbit]

Or you could encrypt everything you upload to the cloud

[past idol]

that would be great

yeah that is right Villhellm better option

[boreal pewter]

Yep

[past idol]

but i thought i will build a nas with raid drives and backup to those

and put my few important stuff on an external hard drive or something

it is not that expensive I think

[unkempt umbra]

depends on size of NAS array

[past idol]

yeah maybe but around 5 TB is more then enough for me now I think

I've got around 1 TB data right now that I need to backup

[unkempt umbra]

thats what I said when I built a 10 TB array

[past idol]

😄

[unkempt umbra]

64% full

[past idol]

one cannot have enough storage space, ever

[boreal pewter]

At work we once argued about backup strategies. There is one simple thing. What happens if your house burns down? And I think that's all said.

[past idol]

I will burn with my nas

[unkempt umbra]

nas is small enoufh to carry

[past idol]

a captain never leaves its burning nas

what if im not in the house?

[boreal pewter]

It doesn't need to happen when you're home...

[unkempt umbra]

...oh...

bad plan then

[past idol]

home assistant warns me if there is a fire, home assistant notifies my muscular neighbor who kicks down the door gets ahold of the nas and escort it to safety

its all planned 😉

[boreal pewter]

You simply can't argue against decentral backups 😄

[past idol]

yeah, that seems the best option anyhow

that is how big companies do it also

[unreal orbit]

Or anyone that cares about their data

[past idol]

right now I have only 500 gb ssd in my pc 😄

and it is full with skyrim mods and vmware linuxes 😄

[unkempt umbra]

ah yes... pet linuxes in cages

[past idol]

😄

so there is room to improve certainly

in a lot of fields

[midnight adder]

@past idol you want a Pi?

[past idol]

not sure about that

[boreal pewter]

My PC has 2x 500GB NVME with 3GB/s and a 750GB SATA3 SSD, I have some external HDD and SSD as well as USB sticks, an external 8TB HDD as central backup drive to backup to Backblaze + a copy of the whole PC itself, another 500GB NVME with 1,5GB/s in the Deskmini, an old 250GB SSD in my not used old Gaming Laptop with an i7, 1TB NVME SSD in my Macbook Pro

[past idol]

will see. Pi 4 with 4 gigs of ram seems quite appealing to me

jeez

my eyes dried out of these GB datas

I will post you a few gigs of data if its fine

[boreal pewter]

lol

[past idol]

if you could store it for a few months that would be great 😄

somewhere in the corner

[boreal pewter]

I still have my dedicated server from a hoster with 8TB HDD which still carry all my Torrents and Media. I host no Media locally!

[past idol]

I wanted to ask Jazz but he is almost full you see 😄

[boreal pewter]

I still think about a 4 bay case for 3;5" to fill with 8TB HDD's and use my Deskmini as the main server then but idk

[past idol]

hmm

i am kind of sick of HDD's

struggled with WD Black for years

it was loud, slow, loud, and then it died

decided that I would never buy a hdd again for normal PC use

[boreal pewter]

Well if you Torrent 4k movies where each has like up to 80GB as well as 300GB series packs then you have to be millionair

[past idol]

of course backuping is other things

thing*

I am fine with 1 tb space in my comp

[unreal orbit]

Hard drives are good for data backup if you have them in a raid array. In a workstation they are quite painful to use

[past idol]

and the ssd prices are not that bad in that segment

@unreal orbit you are right

[unreal orbit]

I just installed a couple SSDs in my home computer, but my work computer still has a hard drive. It is one of the reasons I don't like coming to work.

[clear ferry]

I have ssds in every machine I have

And we sell 95% ssds to customers 😂

32TB ssds, only $100.000 each, let's order 200 of those

[past idol]

@unreal orbit 😄

@clear ferry nice, one would be great of that indeed 😄

[midnight adder]

Anybody tried mechanical turk?

[clear ferry]

Never even heard of before, had to Google it 😂

We have something similar in Norway called Finn Småjobber

Oh, we don't anymore 😛

[boreal pewter]

Looks like you have intensively used it

[past idol]

Jeg er Konge av Norge

Konge av Norge ikke liker Finn Smajobber

😄

[clear ferry]

[past idol]

@clear ferry 😄

[midnight adder]

I see thanks. Looking for a way to earn some side money to get the Pi, that how i came across the mechanical turk

[boreal pewter]

Prostitution?

[past idol]

@boreal pewter is that still a things? 😄

[boreal pewter]

Oh dude! Yeah!

A business that will never die

[past idol]

@boreal pewter just kiddin, never tried though

You could try Patreon or something

depends on the purpose though, with a specific goal and mindset it could work

do you guys prefer an OS with a gui?

[boreal pewter]

No.

[clear ferry]

HP-UX with CDE is the real stuff @boreal pewter

[past idol]

by the way which linux distribution are you guys using?

[clear ferry]

Slackware from 97-03, Debian ever since

[boreal pewter]

The options are pretty small, CentOS or Debian

It's just up to what you prefer then

[past idol]

why

[clear ferry]

I should use suse more since I am suse certified though 😂

[past idol]

Ubuntu is an option aint it?

[boreal pewter]

No

[past idol]

hmm

[clear ferry]

Ubuntu 🤢

[boreal pewter]

Ubuntu is just the retarded child of Debian used by every noob following online tutorials

[past idol]

haha

i am fine with debian though

@unkempt umbra wonder what Jazz uses 😄

probably Saxophone OS

[boreal pewter]

I have a guess, let's see if that comes true

[unkempt umbra]

I run mac os on my daily driver, am a user of red hat, kali linux

[fierce charm]

Hey there, I have a quick question about google assistant and home assistant (I'm asking here because I'm not sure that would fit in #330944238910963714 ), I've seen multiple people using HA with GA to control their house (like to light up hue bulbs for example) because it's faster and doesn't need to make the roundtrip request to the google servers.

Is that the case ? I mean, is there a way to setup google homes so their request first goes to the local HA (and if it can't handle the request, gets sent to the google servers) ?

[boreal pewter]

Well I'm not correct. Even better

I was almost afraid I hear

[unkempt umbra]

heheh

well, macos is based on BSD

[boreal pewter]

My Macbook Pro is just a control machine for work where I work with iTerm2 and Shuttle App as well as Browser, Editor and Mails

[unkempt umbra]

oh, my laptop is a dell Lattitude.. but it runs MacOS

[boreal pewter]

lul

[unkempt umbra]

I am a tinkerer by nature.

[past idol]

😄

@clever mortar

[velvet horizon]

Tinkerer is away for 18h 17m 28s with a message :point_right: 🚀 to the 🌛

[past idol]

Jazz Tinkerer vs Real Tinkerer

fight

by the way Tinkerer still fingers the rocket to the moon for 18hours

[unkempt umbra]

oh, co-worker suggested "Siri Google Alexa fight mode"

so now I need to code up something dramatic to startrek fight music...

[past idol]

😄

[unkempt umbra]

would wow my granddaughter...

[past idol]

oh good that you've mentioned

i need some voice assistant

as I always yelling from the other part of the room to siri

[unkempt umbra]

I have Alexa, google home, and of course siri

[past idol]

"hey siriiii turn on the lights" " I am Listening" " i said turn on the lights" " okay, playing come on baby light my fire" 😄

[unkempt umbra]

apple watch to solve that

[past idol]

by the Doors 😄

yeah maybe I will get one as a christmas gift

just until now I could not justify to get one

without any proper field of use

[unkempt umbra]

got my home mini for $11 on ebay, new in box

[boreal pewter]

Really? The echo dot v3 was now twice on deal for 20 bucks

[unkempt umbra]

I got the home to use for my grandfather clock automation.

couldn't get alexa media to work, yet

[past idol]

@boreal pewter that is nice, it is around 40+ usd now

home mini is around the same price

[unkempt umbra]

have 2 dots, that I spent about $5 each on.

[past idol]

😄

oh my

love this

everything costs more yet wages are less

hey @unkempt umbra

[unkempt umbra]

I chase deals, and get amazon gift cards for doing surveys and such

[past idol]

can you think of any good mini pc that appears regularly on ebay or somewhere

and the price tend to be good?

I am looking for something around 100 usd

[unkempt umbra]

hmm.

[past idol]

thinking of a new Raspberry pi 4 with 4 gigs of ram

yet, maybe you have a better alternative in your mind

[unkempt umbra]

that's sweet... but my laptop came from ebay for about $100.

replaced screen, and battery

for about 30 more

[boreal pewter]

If you're really just interested in HASS and don't tend to become a SysAdmin and build a concert of Services a Pi should be enough

And the Pi4 isn't too weak also, if you can live to rely on ARM

[unkempt umbra]

my HA solution is a docker container on my NAS of many things

NAS runs my channels DVR container, which hosts my OTA and CaTV dvr

runs emby for 6 TB of local video.

[past idol]

hmm

Piii's around 70-80 usd

[hearty depot]

The new T2 chip ll get you into troubles in the future @unkempt umbra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi9en4I-tjA
(with the Dell Lattitude)

[past idol]

same price on ebay as I see

plus i need a case an adapter, an ssd

@unkempt umbra how familiar are you with VMware ?

what do you think of this guys?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wjrxLJ

[unkempt umbra]

moderately.. before nas, had esxi host.

[past idol]

In your opinion why should I consider a more powerful PC?

I mean a Raspberry is good

[boreal pewter]

lol no

[past idol]

but if I invest in something better

[boreal pewter]

No no no

[past idol]

can I create other stuff with it

lol Anon why not? The thing you linked also uses 2400 g aint it? 😄

explain to me please

[boreal pewter]

The mainboard + case + USP costs MUCH more than a Deskmini A300 which has that already built in. For cost efficiency use it. Now you would NOT take a 2400g because the 3400g has MUCh more power regarding almost no more cost. And very important, for Ryzen you take at least 3000Mhz CL16 RAM

[unkempt umbra]

I am a big fan of the PI.. just gave 3 to my son in law

[clear ferry]

AMD🤢

[boreal pewter]

And yeah I use a 140 bucks 3400g ordered in the first week of release

And that one even punishes an i7 6700 😉

[clear ferry]

Skylake Platinum or bust

[boreal pewter]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3400G/3515vsm825156

[clear ferry]

No Platinum 8180M

Shitty comparison tool 😛

[past idol]

could you link a deskmini?

[boreal pewter]

Depending on the benchmark it may vary up to 10%. But that's always the case. However this is a.. I think officially 170$ CPU vs a 300+$ CPU? While they're both almost the same level

https://www.asrock.com/nettop/AMD/DeskMini A300 Series/index.de.asp

[unkempt umbra]

and it is how much of an overkill ...

[past idol]

so the basic deskmini a300 is without a processor right?

and without anything

is it just a case and a psu?

and a mb

[boreal pewter]

Yeah, you need CPU, cooler, RAM and SSD. That's it. That made me an overall of 450€

Regarding I choose 16GB 3000Mhz CL16 RAM and 500GB NVME SSD

It's still to consider, 130€ in my case for case + motherboard + psu

[past idol]

I see

[boreal pewter]

And if I go to extend it for storage as said, I would simply choose a 4 bay USB 3.1 case and fill with HDD's

[clear ferry]

[past idol]

atx pc with used parts would be cheaper

yet it is not that small

[boreal pewter]

Used parts = old generation parts = less power and efficient

• no guarantee

But indeed, check out serverbuilds.net

There are builds for currently suggested 1155 socket, used

[clear ferry]

Just buy a Superdome Flex while you are at it, plenty of performance and room to grow

[boreal pewter]

You're noob if you don't have an IBM Mainframe at home right @clear ferry

[clear ferry]

I prefer x86 over propiatary z systems 😛

[past idol]

@clear ferry looks promising 😊

yeah but for HA I do not really need power @boreal pewter

so i am looking for alternative usages

should I use it as a back up device also?

[boreal pewter]

As I said JUST for HASS a Pi is enough

[past idol]

I mean buying a 300-400 eur pc just for ha is overkill 😄

yeah I know

yet on the long run it could be better

i mean i could easily upgrade it

it is good for other stuff too apart from running HA

just thinking about my options

[boreal pewter]

I wouldn't pay 80$ for a Pi tho, we had it in germany on deal last week for 40€ with shipping

Usually things ain't worth more for me than the cheapest price ever available

[past idol]

for real? which one?

[boreal pewter]

The 4 4GB

[past idol]

oh my 😄

and where? could not I order these from outside germany somehow?

i mean it is half the price 😄

[boreal pewter]

Probably but they were on deal for only one day or so, long off

[past idol]

poor Wild guy should have been in Germany

😄

I think even he could get that for 40 usd 😄

[boreal pewter]

I get those deals from a huge well known german page (the actually only one tho) so there're easily 100k orders

We often even take down pages by accident 😄

[past idol]

Haha

and what if i purchase a nas?

like a synology ds 218+

i bet it could manage HA and also create a backup

[unkempt umbra]

QNAP or synology

both are good

[past idol]

Do you think is qnap better regarding the prices?

[unkempt umbra]

don't know.. but I like my qnap

[past idol]

I see

thank you

will check them

which one do you suggest around 300$?

[unkempt umbra]

hmm let me look:

this is what I've got.. https://www.amazon.com/QNAP-TS-451-2G-US-Quad-Core-Transcoding/dp/B015VNLGF8/ref=sr_1_4?crid=IXW8L8PFO06I&keywords=qnap+nas&qid=1566580200&s=gateway&sprefix=qnap%2Caps%2C153&sr=8-4

upgraded to 8 GB, and 4 4TB drives

you need it to run docker...

not sure which nas boxes are docker capable.

[hearty depot]

@boreal pewter the DeskMini looks Awesome - you got HA running on one of this fellas?

[boreal pewter]

I run it since yesterday on it, I built it together 2 days ago. And today I solved all errors regarding ADB, MQTT and Deconz

[hearty depot]

you know the feeling under the fingers...

[boreal pewter]

450€ with fast and fair amount of RAM and NVME SSD

I maybe still extend the storage inside and external

[hearty depot]

a seccond network card would be awesome - dreaming bout pfsense 😛

[fiery sorrel]

hello :)
New here, and i jumped immediately in the channel i was interested in ... how rude of me.
So hi :) I'm new to HA, but i have played with other stuff before.
i'm a sysadmin so i may be able to help you if you don't just run a docker image :)

[clever mortar]

Welcome to the asylum 👋

[fiery sorrel]

a good one ? or a bad one ? :D

[boreal pewter]

Tinkerer is a good guy if you pet him sometimes

[fiery sorrel]

nha i mean what kind of asylum XD

[clever mortar]

Well...

Depends on which side of the wall you're on 😛

It's a money and time sink for sure

And many days it'll test your sanity

[fiery sorrel]

already run out of both, and i never heard of this sanity you speak about :'D

[clever mortar]

Well, if you're a sysadmin you have to be crazy

[fiery sorrel]

i'm a home-lab guy ... so yea the smarthome device budget is a bit short but i already have what i need for quite some time

hey !

not fair

[clever mortar]

I'm an ex sysadmin - I know what I'm talking about 😛

[unkempt umbra]

but it's true... former sysadmin here

[fiery sorrel]

ex, former ? did you both run out to live in the wild ? or downgrade to manage human instead of server ?

[clever mortar]

If you're not crazy at the start, after a few years of zombies (whether end users, management, or supposed co-workers) you'll be crazy soon enough 😉

[unkempt umbra]

I do service desk now, on contract

[clever mortar]

Oh no, I moved on and out - being "just" a system admin was boring, so I added databases, networks, and things, then moved to contracting "and stuff"

[fiery sorrel]

oh i see :)

[clever mortar]

If it has a network interface, I've probably fixed it or helped somebody fix it at some point

TCP/IP is purely optional 😉

[unkempt umbra]

but have you strung cable with a crossbow ?

[fiery sorrel]

sadly i'm kinda young, and abstraction in network is everywhere ... so i never did get my classic :(

[clever mortar]

You'll get plenty of opportunity to dig into the dark corners if you're interested

Indeed, I'd suggest that being interested in the edges of your knowledge is the only way to go, else you end up in the same job for decades, and hating it

[unkempt umbra]

amen tinkerer

[clever mortar]

Aka, if you're not learning, you're falling behind

[fiery sorrel]

in IT, that for sure

[clever mortar]

In life

[unkempt umbra]

yes

[fiery sorrel]

what is that ?

:D

[clever mortar]

Anybody I know who's approached any job as I know enough ends up in a dead end

[unkempt umbra]

those hours you wrap around work

[clever mortar]

Took me too long to get the work/life balance right - but I know enough who never have

[fiery sorrel]

well for now i'm 90% work 5% sleep 5% lunch ... speaking of which i'm beeing called upon ... i'll be back 👋

[clever mortar]

And 100% burn out material 😉

[unkempt umbra]

yeah

I've seen too many IT types burn out andgo do anything else.. ever know a couple who farm goats now.

[clever mortar]

An ex-boss of mine ended up with a nervous breakdown - and never went back to work. I know others who've had heart attacks or strokes through the stress, and not all of them survived.

Folks don't take their own health seriously enough (says the overweight person)

[clear ferry]

I told my boss 12 years ago I'm a sponge, if I'm not challenged and learning something new I'll quit

I'm still there 😛

[clever mortar]

Yup. I need to be "having fun" to stay

For me that means learning, flexibility, and making a difference

[unreal orbit]

Finally had to shutdown the monitor script. It just wasn't worth my wifi devices losing connection 1400 times a day. Wifi + GPS tracking for me 😦

[clever mortar]

5 GHz for life 😉

[unreal orbit]

As soon as 5ghz IoT devices go mainstream I might revisit it

[clear ferry]

Just move already @unreal orbit😛

[unreal orbit]

but we just hit our first year in this house 😦

[fiery sorrel]

back ! wow, quite the talk, i don't want to end up at the bottom of a rope ... but there is so much to do that i don't have time to do anything else right now 🤔

[clever mortar]

There's always time - it's a matter of prioritisation

If you're having to work more than 8 hours at your job (excluding lunch) then either:

1. You have too much to do
2. There aren't enough staff - see (1)
3. You don't have the skills needed yet - see (1)
4. Your management are idiots - see (1)

Experience (and automation) allows you to get more done in less time, but it's also partly mindset.

[fiery sorrel]

i'm under 8H, because in my country we have what's call 35h a week ... so with the extra i'm around 7.5H

[clever mortar]

Good

[fiery sorrel]

what is killing is transport ...

[clever mortar]

Yeah...

I know too many folks who have to balance can afford to live here with can afford the commute - and it often results in a stupid commute

I think the record is about 3.5 hours, each way

That's about 2.5 hours above my personal maximum 😄

[fiery sorrel]

Oo

ok i'm a lazzy one then

more than 1H each way and i can't do it

[clever mortar]

I can, but I see no reason to

[fiery sorrel]

i'm still "young", so i go where i'm accepted. i start very early to avoid traffic and do what i can `:)

[clever mortar]

Just keep learning, and do put effort on the soft skills - that'll make a massive difference long term

[fiery sorrel]

soft ? you mean human ?

like coworker relationship ?

[clever mortar]

Yes

Communications, inter-personal skills, all that

It makes a significant difference to how people see you, how you come across in interviews, promotion, etc

[fiery sorrel]

i saw that a bit, so i do my best to "look" the way i should, but i do fall flat when i'm asked about hobbies "outside of tech"

[clever mortar]

Tech hobbies are fine too - it's about showing you're not just about work

[fiery sorrel]

can i ask from what country you'r from ?

[clever mortar]

UK

[fiery sorrel]

Thank :) France here but you knew that i'm sure XD
are raise and promotion mostly "capacity based" in the UK ?

or do you need to change company to really get a promotion

[clever mortar]

Depends on the organisation really

Sometimes you have to move, sometimes you'll get promoted internally

I think the reality is that for many folks you need to move sometimes just to get a fresh start

Avoid any pre-conceptions of the current employer, and give yourself new opportunities

[fiery sorrel]

I see, from what i have understand (cause i can't talk much about experience) here company see you as a purchase, so they rather see you leave and try to get you back later for way more, that give you a raise

so i try to learn all i can to ... "sell myself" beter :)

[clever mortar]

Yup, and that's where the communication skills, and how you come across (including body language) makes a huge difference

[clear ferry]

I enjoy travelling, I can drive 6h to get to customers 😛

[clever mortar]

It's also partly about how you talk about things
I was part of a team that...
I was a critical part of a team that...
I lead a team...

All three could be the same thing, but they position you differently in interview 😉

[fiery sorrel]

i guess beeing a sale's man can be really cool taxbyea :)

[tawny pebble]

hey everybody, since I run HA i can not think about my apartment without. Yesterday a water pipe broke in front of my apartment on the road and a team of workers were there to fix. They closed the water for the whole building. Scared that some weird shit would happen to the electricity, I shat down the server.

I was a full day without HA. Man.. I did miss it.

[clever mortar]

Sales... I "suspect" he's not really that 😉

[fiery sorrel]

i have no idea, i read customers. drive, long time

[clever mortar]

Roving tech support

[fiery sorrel]

oh .... seam less fun sudenly

[clever mortar]

I dunno

Turn up, kick the machine in the right spot, make everybody else feel dumb, leave with a grin

[fiery sorrel]

yeaaa, issus are very simple most of the time. but when they arent, it look more stressful since your only job here is to fix that stuff...

[clever mortar]

Oh, I agree, but experience, and learning how to solve problems, can turn that into fun

[fiery sorrel]

i wonder if a kick on the user in the right spot also solve issue 🤔 😀

[clever mortar]

For every WTF am I still employed moment I've had dozens of opportunities to pull rabbits from a hat

And yes, yes it can 😛

[fiery sorrel]

XD

[boreal pewter]

Poor Tinkerer

Maybe you can still change country before brexit

[clever mortar]

Eh. It could be worse... politics could be banned in this channel 😉

[fiery sorrel]

ouch 🔥

[boreal pewter]

But there is noone called @politics

[fiery sorrel]

it actually canceled my holiday :( i was planing to come a week, but it was just after the date the new guy they you will leave with or without, and i didn't want to risk it...

so much cool museum i won't see :(

[clear ferry]

@fiery sorrel I am not a sales man no

I am a fixer of important stuff, installer of awesome and implementer of cool solutions

And a cocky fat bastard

[fiery sorrel]

that quite the job description !

ok ... not the last part

but still pretty cool :D

[clever mortar]

The secret of job descriptions is that they're flexible

[clear ferry]

I'm not very flexible, thank Dog my job is

[unkempt umbra]

soo quiet...

[clever mortar]

Everybody is at work/down the pub/asleep 😛

(or possibly all three)

[fiery sorrel]

:'D

[unkempt umbra]

<== at work, but bored.

\o/

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[fiery sorrel]

poor table :P

[unkempt umbra]

┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

[fiery sorrel]

XD

[unkempt umbra]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fiery sorrel]

i'm so close to sleeping on my desk :(

[unkempt umbra]

im looking at the under desk space

[fiery sorrel]

what is there under there ? the cable monster ?

the dust bunny ?

[unkempt umbra]

a quieter spot.

[fiery sorrel]

jealous

[unkempt umbra]

( 0)( 0)

{0v0}
{{#}}
=x=x======

[fiery sorrel]

who ?

🙄 🚪

[unkempt umbra]

ascii owl.

[fiery sorrel]

yay, my thing trigerd ! now i'm going in bed ... it have been a long 20H day

[unkempt umbra]

g'night Vlycop

[fiery sorrel]

@unkempt umbra i know ... that why i askd "who?", 'cause that what owl say

damn, my joke are so low level :(

[unkempt umbra]

heheheh

[fiery sorrel]

thank's :) have a good end of work :)

[jaunty summit]

anyone had luck with leviton smart switches and led strips? leviton's site doesn't really explicitly say led strips supported

[clear ferry]

[unkempt umbra]

/giphy

https://giphy.com/gifs/dance-spongebob-bob-nDSlfqf0gn5g4

[hushed basalt]

Just spent $300 on baby gates and accessories

Sigh

That could have been 15 xiaomi sensors! Damn kids haha

[clear ferry]

I have bought a lot of baby stuff used 😛

[hushed basalt]

I know but i needed like 4 gates

[clear ferry]

Yeah, I bought one gate, it came partly broke, got my money back, but kept the gate, bought a second gate on 50% off 😛

[hushed basalt]

I figured it would save me about $25 per gate to buy it second hand

But then I would have to hunt to find four different people with the exact lengths I need, drive around the city, to get half broken gates with hardware missing

[tough igloo]

We had our third earlier this year. We always try to get used baby hardware. Just need to throw an esp with relay controlling electro mag locks and sensors on the baby gates 😆

[clear ferry]

Lool 😂

[torn horizon]

What are the plus of using node red rather than just HA ?

[clever mortar]

Well, that's off topic in here 😉 Try #node-red-archived or #330944238910963714

[torn horizon]

Ho didnt saw this chan

[clever mortar]

Or take the time to read the channel topics... 😉

[boreal pewter]

Channel names are enough already 😄

[hushed basalt]

I see no channel topics

[boreal pewter]

Then repair your Discord.

[clever mortar]

On mobile you have to click the channel name to see the topic

[hushed basalt]

Yes, I'll fix my discord

Just let me work for Discord and change their source code

[boreal pewter]

You're good if you change the sourcecode while not working for them. :P
Maybe you can just do a self-host Discord btw?

[hushed basalt]

Still can't find the topics anywere on android

Haven't really gone looking for them though

[clever mortar]

On mobile you have to click the channel name to see the topic

They're there on Android - that's what I just used to verify that what I saw earlier is still true half an hour later 😛

[hushed basalt]

I tries that

It just takes me to the channel settings

[boreal pewter]

I just tested and indeed, I can't see them either

[hushed basalt]

I found it

It's in the user lists

Swipe from right edge

[clever mortar]

🤔 I wonder if it's because all the servers I'm active on I'm also a mod/admin/whatever... must check one of the ones I don't use much

[boreal pewter]

Could have been moved with a lately update or so

[hushed basalt]

Yeah it's cause you're admin

[clever mortar]

Would appear to be the case

[hushed basalt]

I think the takeaway we can learn from this

Is that @clear ferry is wrong

[fiery sorrel]

have someone enable browser notification on the forum ? how bad or how good is it ? i usually instant nop ... but this community don't seam "abusive".

[hushed basalt]

I can't say, but you might be able to check what they're set to in your profile settings

It might say "notify on reply to your topic, direct message etc"

I assume it would be for those sort of things

[fiery sorrel]

me to, but because it's based on a forum engine, i'm kinda worry about what other notif the engine might set by default :)

[hushed basalt]

I think it's a managable risk

Unlike ecommerce sites

[fiery sorrel]

true :)

[clear ferry]

[clear ferry]

Got enough music now @ocean mirage ?

[ocean mirage]

Honestly I’ve left your email open in a tab since you sent it

[clear ferry]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[ocean mirage]

Getting around to things is not my strong suit but it’ll happen

[clear ferry]

I sent you a few more

[ocean mirage]

Oh cool, I don’t check that email too often

[clear ferry]

Only for porn and atxbyea?

[ocean mirage]

Yeah and only atxbyea because I am hoping you will send me porn

[clear ferry]

Basically the same thing though

I am quite hot

As in I never wear a jacket in winter

[ocean mirage]

Hehe

[upper tinsel]

I hate when everything's working... you change nothing, and then it breaks. 😩

Weeks ago I moved my db and log files to thumbdrive... and now Im getting errors about stuff being locked. I haven't touched anything

...and then it fixes itself magically.

[wintry spear]

Hi all!
I'm trying to setup the Home Assistant extension in Visual Studio Code and I keep getting errors. Anybody had luck with this ?

[clever mortar]

Try #general-archived - you're off topic in here (see the channel topic 😉 )

[wintry spear]

ok thanks 🙂

[amber bramble]

built an unraid box last week to replace 2 aging NAS systems 🎉

[ocean mirage]

I've been enjoying using Unraid

but keep it on the DL, I suspect it it something that atxbyea would badmouth

[brisk glen]

Lol

At least now you have a nice decent nas system

[clear ferry]

Freenas 4 lyfe suckers 😛

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/track/1LEl9029bRIrHhssrf0Td6?si=tks8usTlR4yb3boIy6FQOQ

[valid halo]

Hey y'all

how ya doing

I'm having a bit of a bad week myself. My grandfather passed away on Thursday

[dull chasm]

so sorry @valid halo prayers for you and family

[valid halo]

Thank you.

[dull chasm]

🙏

[valid halo]

He was getting into home automation a little bit himself. He had three Alexa's and a Ring.

Heh. We all had the same idea to buy him an Alexa. So he got two echos and an echo dot

He really liked them. He'd wake up and have them play music or just ask Alexa questions.

[dull chasm]

well he has God to ask questions too ...so much much much better

[clear ferry]

Divine automation

[dull chasm]

yes sir ...i understand we should keep religion out of this but i wont carry on ....but it is what it is ....just look at my avatar

[clear ferry]

I would expect no less of Vasiley the great ❤

[late gate]

is it any ways to measure rssi of wifi units and show it in ha?

[clever mortar]

Not that it's on topic here, but the component would need to report that

[clear ferry]

Lol the Google home max is not avaliable in Norway, but a gray import shop is selling it for $590