#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 372

dusty gorge Aug 17, 2019, 5:41 PM

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I have this light switch.

Switch 1 connected to 4 Wyze Bulbs
Switch 2 connected to 1 Hue light Blub
Switch 3 connected to lights under cabinets

I wanted to able to google assistant to turn off all 3 switch and also wife wants to be able to turn manually ? is this even possible?

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late gate Aug 17, 2019, 5:45 PM

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first straighten up the screws my OCD is tingling secondly what technology is the switches?

dusty gorge Aug 17, 2019, 5:46 PM

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LOL

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so true tho

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house was built 19 years ago?

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@late gate do you need to pull cover off?

late gate Aug 17, 2019, 5:47 PM

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So old "dumb" switches?

dusty gorge Aug 17, 2019, 5:47 PM

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switches just turns on and off = dumb ?

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any recommendation on how to accomplish this?

clever mortar Aug 17, 2019, 5:49 PM

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You'd need to connect them to a smart relay

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That's really a #330944238910963714 question though 😉

late gate Aug 17, 2019, 6:36 PM

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ok moved mqtt and influx to the server - would you guys move nodered (if you are using it) off hass too?

clever mortar Aug 17, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Check the remaining load on the Pi, see what it's like (particularly I/O)

late gate Aug 17, 2019, 6:38 PM

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actually on a NUC, but thinking of crash preperance

clever mortar Aug 17, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Well, backups would be the important thing there IMO

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And possibly having a "cold standby" system, or even a warm standby that you're keeping in sync, but not running any services

torn horizon Aug 17, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Is it useful to install a mqtt server on the rpi hosting HA ?

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I don't get the benefits of it

clever mortar Aug 17, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Yes, if you're using MQTT

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Obviously it's not very useful if you don't 😉

torn horizon Aug 17, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Isn't the point of MQTT to offload http events on HA and avoid potentil events missing ?

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Thing is i wonder to move over mqtt but I don't really get the benefit of it

static schooner Aug 17, 2019, 10:19 PM

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In this case, an MQTT broker is just a middleman between something that’s providing data or that you want to control and your HA instance.

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It can help locate a Zwave or Zigbee controller on a different physical device, or just have it run as a stand-alone instance and remain connected to HA via the MQTT server.

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That could reduce the load on your HA device, but it’s not usually the reason to do it, and it probably wouldn’t help with ‘missing events’. That’s gonna be something else

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The value of MQTT is that it’s a simple, standard abstraction that can be used to communicate between two devices, providing a common language

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One benefit for Zwave is that Zwave2MQTT avoids the need to requery your devices when restarting HA. It also has some downsides in that it’s still relatively immature.

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Investigate MQTT if you have an actual problem to solve or need it to work with a device or service that doesn’t work natively with HA. Otherwise, no reason to do it just to do it

dusty gorge Aug 17, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Ok I have spent some time trying to figure this out. I want to replace my light switch(3 switches on wall light plate) that wil work with my Hue and Wzye light bulbs. I am using conbee2. I cant seem to find a good zigbee ligth switch off this list? https://github.com/dresden-elektronik/deconz-rest-plugin/wiki/Supported-Devices#supported-switches

GitHub

dresden-elektronik/deconz-rest-plugin

REST API Plugin to control ZigBee lights like Philips Hue and dresden elektroniks wireless electronic ballasts - dresden-elektronik/deconz-rest-plugin

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https://www.coolicool.com/Home-Garden/xiaomi-mi-aqara-qbkg11lm-wall-switch-zigbee-neutral-line-single-key-version-support-wireless-smart-l-g-54894

www.coolicool.com

XIAOMI MI AQARA QBKG11LM Wall-$26.99-Online Shopping | www.coolico...

Free Shipping, Cheapest & Wholesale Price,XIAOMI MI AQARA QBKG11LM Wall Switch ZigBee Neutral Line Single Key Version Support Wireless Smart Light Remote Control- CooliCool.com

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will this work on US light boxes?

midnight adder Aug 18, 2019, 12:04 AM

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wee flashing tuya

unreal orbit Aug 18, 2019, 12:10 AM

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@dusty gorge input voltage is 220, so no

green inlet Aug 18, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Putting a smart switch inline with another smart device is a recipe for disaster IMHO

midnight adder Aug 18, 2019, 12:16 AM

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anyone else here ever use tuya-convert

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the flashing is taking forever

open hull Aug 18, 2019, 12:23 AM

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the device probably has patched firmware if it's taking so long

midnight adder Aug 18, 2019, 1:16 AM

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well, shit

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guess I'll have to find some other compact smart plug that I can flash

deft reef Aug 18, 2019, 2:42 AM

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@midnight adder I have my house filled with tuya switches that I flashed (about 30 of them)

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Sometimes it just will sit there and never flash

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It was common to have to restart the process a couple times on some switches before it would "take"

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However, if they are updated to the new firmware it'll never work. But you can tell which is which by watching the switch. If it keeps blinking steadily during the flash process, it isn't working. So after a couple tries if it always does that, it's probably updated and won't work

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But sometimes it'll blink differently but not fully flash (but the process on the PC still just shows dots forever), it'll work but you have to restart the process again

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In my experience

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Has anyone used groups of persons? I'd like to setup some automations for when someone is home and also when we're all gone but I'd rather use a group than reference every person in the automations. Is that easy to setup?

clear ferry Aug 18, 2019, 6:44 AM

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Thanks, I Hate Face Swap... - https://i.redd.it/rgeehuvur3h31.jpg

ocean mirage Aug 18, 2019, 6:58 AM

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Cute

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2019, 8:20 AM

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Thanks I hate it

torn horizon Aug 18, 2019, 8:46 AM

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Is there a place were i can find rpi4 4GB on stock on earth ?

boreal pewter Aug 18, 2019, 9:18 AM

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Not that I recommend buying one.
https://www.rasppishop.de/Raspberry-Pi-4-Modell-B-4GB-SDRAM
https://geizhals.de/raspberry-pi-4-modell-b-a2081132.html
https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/6628198_-4-model-b-raspberry-pi-foundation.html
https://www.reichelt.de/raspberry-pi-4-b-4x-1-5-ghz-4-gb-ram-wlan-bt-rasp-pi-4-b-4gb-p259920.html

torn horizon Aug 18, 2019, 9:21 AM

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Also what i found

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thanks

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2019, 10:22 AM

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Why don't you recommend buying one anon?

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 10:34 AM

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what do you guys prefer on windows. 1. open/close sensor or 2. vibration sensor with gyroscope

clever mortar Aug 18, 2019, 10:38 AM

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Depends on the window I suppose, but open/close is simple and reliable

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Gyro may be handy if it tilts though and can give you the angle

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 10:39 AM

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yeah I kinda found the old open/close to be hard to install on windows, while gyro I know if its open from top or side, and can trigger on vibration / breaking glass

clever mortar Aug 18, 2019, 10:40 AM

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On uPVC I've had zero issues with any open/close - the "closed" range is usually one or two cm

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 10:41 AM

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yeah I got windows from the 70s so awkward relationship between window and frame

clever mortar Aug 18, 2019, 10:42 AM

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Depending on the construction and gaps, the Sensative strips may work

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https://sensative.com/strips/

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I've got a few of their Z-Wave door/window strips and they're awesome - though an absolute PITA to pair 😄

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 10:46 AM

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I will take a look

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On another note, does it exist some kindd of trigger to be put behind old light switches to indirectly control lights like hue ceiling lights (so the switch works as a remote). The fibaro dimmer needs to be connected to the target, and in general what I want is just a power connected remote

clever mortar Aug 18, 2019, 10:48 AM

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Well, you need something connected to the target so you can power it off. However, most Z-Wave modules have two outputs and two inputs. You can hook the physical switch to the input that's not connected to the light, and then control it with an automation

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 10:49 AM

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hmm depends if the zwave ones wants to register button clicks if not connected to target?

clever mortar Aug 18, 2019, 10:50 AM

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They will, they're designed to work that way

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 10:50 AM

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hmm okay got a load of fibaro dimmer 2, maybe they could work as a dumb remote for automations

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yeah seem like possible with using the bypass module - luckily I got a load of them too

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Im done trying to get the HUE remote to work, it drops off the network every 2 days

clever mortar Aug 18, 2019, 10:56 AM

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As I said, you'll want to hook the second output to the light so you can still cut the power

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 10:56 AM

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ah yeah you are right, so that the switch wont turn that off

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I will take a look later. Got some fibaro walli and old dimmer2 just laying in the drawer

midnight adder Aug 18, 2019, 2:11 PM

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@deft reef start_flash, connect to wifi with phone, plug in smartplug and set it to pairing mode, hit enter

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right?

tame moss Aug 18, 2019, 3:14 PM

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How does the wyze bulbs communicate?

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Pretty decent cheap bulb for the price but no HA support

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@late gate how far away is your hue hub from your remote

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Zigbee/hue works kinda like mesh, so if a hue bulb is in the vacinity it will piggy back off that to extend the range

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 3:18 PM

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@tame moss about 5-6 meters, with a hue light close. It does not seem like HUE is meshing properly - wish I could see a map of it as some of the outside lights are always jumping between connected and disconnected, even if all lights are 2-3 meters apart (20 outside lights)

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the remotes are extremly unstable in this house at least

tame moss Aug 18, 2019, 3:19 PM

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Hm, weird. My hue does sometimes drop out as well.

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I'm personally using lutron caseta picos to control my lights and media

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Dirt cheap remotes, like $15?

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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US? at least the american marked is blessed with a good selection of remotes and switches. European switches are extremely limited

tame moss Aug 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Yeah this is us. But I believe lutron sells them in eu

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They work off a special rf technology, and you need a lutron caseta hub for it (and the lutron caseta pro hub for ha support)

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 3:22 PM

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not sure if they use a frequency thats banned here, but its an option. Though problem is US switches look nothing like EU switches (we dont have any narrow and high) so looks a bit strange

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for hue I had to make a custom frame to make it fit

tame moss Aug 18, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Yeah that's the issue.

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The picos are just standalone wireless remotes but they sell an adapter that mounts them to a wall like a normal switch. The adapters like $2.

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late gate Aug 18, 2019, 3:24 PM

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how is the stability?

tame moss Aug 18, 2019, 3:24 PM

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VERY good.

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There's a size comparasion. Should be super easy to make a custom frame.

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They have (for me at least) 100% reliability with home assistant and they claim a 10 year battery life span, which I believe as my friend has been using them for the past 4 years.

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 3:26 PM

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interessting. need to do research about the frequency unless someone in EU know if they use a banned one here?

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at least would not reccomend hue dimmers to anyone. a google search show it seem like a common issue

tame moss Aug 18, 2019, 3:28 PM

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They also sell two button versions, if that's more your style. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KLAXOE8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_R5wwDbETTRJPE

Lutron Pico Remote for Caseta Wireless Smart Switches with On/Off ...

Lutron Pico Remote for Caseta Wireless Smart Switches with On/Off Control, PJ2-2B-GWH-L01, White - - Amazon.com

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 3:30 PM

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could be an issue though 431mhz is right in the amataur radio frequency - I bet they are not allowed to use for smarthome equipment

clear ferry Aug 18, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Just do it to piss those ham people off 😛

tame moss Aug 18, 2019, 4:00 PM

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:P

empty notch Aug 18, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Not sure where to put this in at, it's more Home Automation than HA, but I have a problem that I'm looking to solve. I have an office with a Wyze PIR Sense. I have the PIR sensor pointing right at my body under my monitor. I use this to turn on the lights when I enter the room and sit at my computer. For some reason, the Wyze PIR sensor will turn off the lights and declare the sensor is clear. I thought that it was too close and when the PIR normalized it was considered under average. I then moved it about 3 feet away from me thinking it was an averaging issue, but it still happens.

My conclusion is that the sensitivity is off (which I can't change)
The sensor is junk
I'm still too close to the sensor
Everything is good, but I need more sensors to get an better room average

Any thoughts?

clear ferry Aug 18, 2019, 4:30 PM

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I use a Xiaomi sensor in my office, above the screens so it sees me and the door

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Two times it has turned off the lights, both times I was in a conference call, half asleep 😂

clever mortar Aug 18, 2019, 5:17 PM

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As I put my computer to sleep when I'm not using it, I use whether it's online or not.

clear ferry Aug 18, 2019, 5:57 PM

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@clever mortar listen to Mr power saver over here 😛

velvet horizonBOT Aug 18, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Tinkerer is away for 32m 49s with a message :point_right: Dinner calls!

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Do anyone know about a EU plug that is really 16A rated, could be zigbee, zwave or wifi as long as it integrate well with HA

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with power metering

clear ferry Aug 18, 2019, 5:58 PM

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ZigBee doesn't do power metering, does it?

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So zwave or WiFi are probably your options

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 5:59 PM

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yeah. I have no experience with wifi plugs, except they seem much cheaper

clever mortar Aug 18, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Because they don't have to support any standard

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16A for a socket though... seems unlikely

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Might be worth checking out TKB, they do a Z-Wave plug for Germany that supports up to 3.5KW

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 6:01 PM

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true, at least at real rating. Shuko is just rated for 8A constant load

clear ferry Aug 18, 2019, 6:03 PM

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I use a tplink hs110 on my water tank

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 6:03 PM

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works with HA?

clear ferry Aug 18, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Yes

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Native

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https://www.home-assistant.io/components/tplink/

Home Assistant

TP-Link Smart Home Devices

Instructions on integrating TP-Link Smart Home Devices to Home Assistant.

orchid rose Aug 18, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Why do things keep breaking....... If only there was more interest in companies to use more universal apis that wouldn't constantly break things or suddenly stop working...

clear ferry Aug 18, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Thank goodness for local control devices 😛

orchid rose Aug 18, 2019, 6:07 PM

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yeah... That's the only constant thing that just works

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 6:08 PM

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thats interessing @clear ferry looks like they are commonly available in norway at least

clear ferry Aug 18, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Yes, I got mine at Kjell&Co

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 6:09 PM

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289 on netonnet, 100 cheaper than kjell

clear ferry Aug 18, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Aye,but I was impatient 😛

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 6:10 PM

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hehehe true enough

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any norwegian power bars that support HA, @clear ferry

clear ferry Aug 18, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Not that I know of I have only ever seen tuya devices

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 7:43 PM

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@clear ferry what is the measurement update frequency on the tp plugs?

clear ferry Aug 18, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Pretty instant is my experience

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It gives me a rating almost as soon as I start using hot water

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 7:44 PM

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That is good. I got an array of smappe switches, but those are every 5 minutes so not sure if thats often enough

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meh just ordered a 10pk of the tp link so I dont have to mess with the bad mqtt stuff

clear ferry Aug 18, 2019, 7:55 PM

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😂 😂 😂 😂

late gate Aug 18, 2019, 8:01 PM

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woha I put out my 3d drawing for the HUE dimmer. I got called down from the one who selling them on finn

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or somewhere, at least im an idiot

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lol

late gate Aug 19, 2019, 12:11 AM

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Any suggestion for a zwave alarm panel that can read rfid or phone nfc, need to look presentable

hushed basalt Aug 19, 2019, 12:23 AM

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Hmm interesting

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Maybe try #diy-archived

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You will probably need to diy

misty bloom Aug 19, 2019, 1:07 AM

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does anyone know if there is a method that if you set the white channel on a rgbw led it will turn off the colour brightness then? the led is running esphome

hushed basalt Aug 19, 2019, 1:07 AM

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Nfc module to suit raspberry pi, esp, zwave etc @late gate

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3d printed or generic enclosure

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And a poe or usb power

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I don't think you'll get it in zwave

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@misty bloom i had to break up my rgbw light

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So the white channel was a seperate light

misty bloom Aug 19, 2019, 1:08 AM

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addressable?

hushed basalt Aug 19, 2019, 1:08 AM

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Yeah i just changed the yaml

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I would show you but I'm at work and it's on my desktop

misty bloom Aug 19, 2019, 1:09 AM

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could you snip when you get home? much appreciated

hushed basalt Aug 19, 2019, 1:09 AM

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So i have light.bedroom_ceiling_rgb and light.bedroom_ceiling_white

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Yeah I'll try to remember :d

misty bloom Aug 19, 2019, 1:09 AM

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how did you get it to turn off when using the color instead of white

hushed basalt Aug 19, 2019, 1:09 AM

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Otherwise hit my up in 8-9 hours

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They're just two completely separate lights

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So you have to make a group in ha if you want to control them both at once

misty bloom Aug 19, 2019, 1:10 AM

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probably can automate that only one is on at a time

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right?

hushed basalt Aug 19, 2019, 1:12 AM

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Yeah of course

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I made "scenes" in node red for my bedroom

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With instructions for every light per scene

misty bloom Aug 19, 2019, 1:13 AM

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cheers I'll give that a go, back home in a week

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got bunch of HA stuff arriving tomorrow

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wall switches conbee

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more sensors

young sigil Aug 19, 2019, 2:55 AM

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I was just adding a new wired PIR and accidentally cut through the 12V and ground line with the pliers when crimping a scotchlok. This shorted them together blowing the 12V power supply fuse and setting off all the smoke alarms and sirens. At least I know they work. This has been a test of the emergency broadcast system.

eager trench Aug 19, 2019, 3:53 AM

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ha! and changed the colour of your undies too I bet

young sigil Aug 19, 2019, 4:25 AM

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Too hot in the roof for underpants 🙂

hushed basalt Aug 19, 2019, 5:05 AM

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This is what $8000 gets you

clear ferry Aug 19, 2019, 5:46 AM

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😂

hushed basalt Aug 19, 2019, 5:49 AM

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Alllll the colours

ocean mirage Aug 19, 2019, 10:43 AM

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Anyone got an opinion of if rear dash cams are worth the money over just a front one?

tough igloo Aug 19, 2019, 10:44 AM

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Are you going to add videos to dashcamaustralia?

ocean mirage Aug 19, 2019, 10:44 AM

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I will force accidents on the road for that express purpose

tough igloo Aug 19, 2019, 10:45 AM

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😂

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Canberra drivers too close to you on the parkway?

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I would personally just use a front camera. It will still record the timing of an event and add evidence if required

clear ferry Aug 19, 2019, 10:46 AM

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You can get cheap front and back ones from ali atleast

ocean mirage Aug 19, 2019, 10:46 AM

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The amount of times people move into my lane without the room or time jesus

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I might just go for front, idk

tough igloo Aug 19, 2019, 10:46 AM

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Yeah CBR driving

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Classic

ocean mirage Aug 19, 2019, 10:47 AM

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Today two people decided to drift into my lane on athlon drive in a row

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overtake one and the next one does the same

clear ferry Aug 19, 2019, 10:47 AM

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Oz people should just drive in the bush!

tough igloo Aug 19, 2019, 10:48 AM

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Yeah it’s pretty crazy. It’s called bush bashin’ @clear ferry

clear ferry Aug 19, 2019, 10:50 AM

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I'll buy that game for my Nintendo Wii

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But only if crocodile Dundee comments the races

ocean mirage Aug 19, 2019, 10:52 AM

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My car would not work well in the bush mate lol

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The real Australian way it to buy a big 4x4 that you never take offroad

clear ferry Aug 19, 2019, 10:55 AM

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Sounds like the Norwegian way

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Buy a range rover, drive to the store with it

orchid rose Aug 19, 2019, 10:58 AM

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need that 4wd for the snowy hills they say

clear ferry Aug 19, 2019, 10:59 AM

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So many people buy the Volvo XC90 t8 and mitsubishi outlander phev because they get tax cuts on them since they are hybrids, but they seldom charge them, just drive fossile because no one demands them to drive hybrid mode

ocean mirage Aug 19, 2019, 11:00 AM

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burning dinosaurs is cool

clear ferry Aug 19, 2019, 11:00 AM

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I prefer it, I'm pretty sure the production and at some point disposal of batteries is more environmental impact 🤷

ocean mirage Aug 19, 2019, 11:09 AM

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I have a PV array I can be as bad for the environment as I please now

late gate Aug 19, 2019, 12:56 PM

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What do you guys use for automation? yaml automation, appdaemon or node red?

light trout Aug 19, 2019, 12:57 PM

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yaml for all of my 3 automations 😛

late gate Aug 19, 2019, 12:57 PM

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that sounds like a fully automated home lol

boreal pewter Aug 19, 2019, 12:58 PM

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Depends on how good the KI is

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😄

light trout Aug 19, 2019, 12:58 PM

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None of them are for home controll

late gate Aug 19, 2019, 12:59 PM

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so what are you using HA for? hehe

light trout Aug 19, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Mostly nothing ATM 😛

velvet horizonBOT Aug 19, 2019, 12:59 PM

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This repository exists mostly for my own amusement, but it may contain some things that others might find useful. :dancer:

late gate Aug 19, 2019, 1:00 PM

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who knows you might live in a tent hehe

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and on an I7!

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haha

ocean mirage Aug 19, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Ludeeus got three times the automations I got

light trout Aug 19, 2019, 1:01 PM

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Just a week ago I did not have any as well 😛

ocean mirage Aug 19, 2019, 1:01 PM

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Hehe

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I am just waiting on shit from Ali and also from my solar company for integrating their api stuff

late gate Aug 19, 2019, 1:02 PM

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I have some automations, but not decided how to run them. I have a love/hate with NR, not sure about the yaml automation, and never tried AD

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maybe I just got the grass is greener syndrome

unkempt umbra Aug 19, 2019, 1:15 PM

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successfully upgraded to .97.2

orchid rose Aug 19, 2019, 2:03 PM

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For my use the yaml is fine

strange vapor Aug 19, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Generally using Yaml as I'm not doing anything too crazy with automations. Also, with it as yaml I can keep it in source control which is handy whne I inevitably screw something up!

light trout Aug 19, 2019, 2:17 PM

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You can do that with AD as well, not sure about NR. The biggest selling point for me not using one of those it that it would add another point of failure.

clear ferry Aug 19, 2019, 2:33 PM

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@late gate yaml 4 lyfe

boreal pewter Aug 19, 2019, 3:02 PM

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You know you're yaml'ing when you never use TAB in any linux file again

clear ferry Aug 19, 2019, 3:21 PM

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I never tab anyway 😂

boreal pewter Aug 19, 2019, 3:23 PM

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See

clear ferry Aug 19, 2019, 3:25 PM

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thonkspin

boreal pewter Aug 19, 2019, 3:29 PM

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😄

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Woah honestly the maker of YUMI must be retarded

hearty depot Aug 19, 2019, 4:59 PM

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lol - the moment when you add Home Assistant to an Job application

clear ferry Aug 19, 2019, 5:10 PM

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But, you will have to know Job Assistant out there 🤷

late gate Aug 19, 2019, 7:35 PM

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ordered a bunch of stuff from a local online shop and a bug made it come as seperate orders

clear ferry Aug 19, 2019, 8:37 PM

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@ocean mirage reminded me of you https://gfycat.com/wiltedapprehensivekronosaurus

Gfycat

gator426428

clever mortar Aug 19, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Ah good old /r/idiots_in_cars

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(or whatever it is)

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always makes me laugh/scream/cry/wonder at the stupidity of the human race

orchid rose Aug 19, 2019, 9:07 PM

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I'm looking for cheap E14 dual-white (CCT) bulbs. Does anyone know any?

sand badge Aug 19, 2019, 9:29 PM

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try the Yeelight Candle bulb

orchid rose Aug 19, 2019, 9:33 PM

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That looks pretty good! Unfortunately won't work with my other lamp though, it's just too tall 😦

sand badge Aug 19, 2019, 9:36 PM

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whats the max height you need?

orchid rose Aug 19, 2019, 9:36 PM

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let me measure really quick

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76-77mm

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might be an impossible ask though tbh... The led one that I have is almost exactly that already and you need some extra boards for wireless connection etc in it as well

sand badge Aug 19, 2019, 9:41 PM

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that height not including the screw in part ?

orchid rose Aug 19, 2019, 9:46 PM

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including the screw part 😛

sand badge Aug 19, 2019, 9:48 PM

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haha good luck, smallest i can find is 117mm

orchid rose Aug 19, 2019, 9:49 PM

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yeah... It's probably not possible to cram so much stuff in such a small space unfortunately

strange vapor Aug 19, 2019, 10:06 PM

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ocean mirage Aug 19, 2019, 10:37 PM

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@clear ferry haha wtf. how doe three people even do that

hushed basalt Aug 20, 2019, 12:57 AM

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Has anyone used appdaemon

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I'm not in love with nodered, but whatever I must not need a full reload of homeassistant to deploy

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Development Iteration cycle is painful like that

modest sentinel Aug 20, 2019, 4:19 AM

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I'm just about finished building a chicken coop (chicks arrive next week!) and I'd like to put a temperature sensor in the coop. There's no electricity... I could run an extension cord but likely don't need to. Is there any good temperature sensor that I can toss in the coop? It should be in wifi range, not too sure about zigbee/z-wave

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powered might be an option now that I think about it, I'll probably toss a wyze cam in/near it

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Nothing to start the day like some Russian turbo-polka

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https://open.spotify.com/album/5GD2wVRu7YNsC87lUp7yDt?si=lOGwcuUBSWmTJRzp0L1Z_g

Spotify

Energia!

Energia!, an album by Russkaja on Spotify

hushed basalt Aug 20, 2019, 10:02 AM

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@modest sentinel xiaomi Zigbee sensors work pretty well

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If you need range you could put a zigbee light bulb somewhere in between etc

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 10:24 AM

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@hushed basalt they won't repeat with the Xiaomi hub unless it is a Xiaomi bulb though, with Zigbee2mqtt it can be any bulb afaik

hushed basalt Aug 20, 2019, 10:24 AM

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Yeah i use zigbee2mqtr

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I bought the ikea hub for my ikea bulbs though

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 10:25 AM

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I use the Xiaomi temp in my greenhouse, that is 3 walls and 13m away from the hub, so the range is very good

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 10:27 AM

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I have bought 4 Mi Flora Sensors and 2 of them broke just like 2 weeks after, so I will stay away of them

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And for Zigbee Repeaters I like the Osram Smart+ Plugs

hushed basalt Aug 20, 2019, 10:29 AM

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I don't know of any zigbee plugs for Australia :(

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Bulbs are my only hope

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 10:50 AM

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Not even IKEA @hushed basalt ?

strange vapor Aug 20, 2019, 11:05 AM

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@hushed basalt You have electricity in Austrailia?

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 11:06 AM

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For the electric barbies!

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 11:11 AM

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Did they already invent the wheel?

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 11:12 AM

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Must have, so you can turn the meat on the Barbie

strange vapor Aug 20, 2019, 11:12 AM

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@clear ferry Electric BBQ?? You savage!

ocean mirage Aug 20, 2019, 11:13 AM

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thats what tongs are for mate

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 11:13 AM

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Pcprincipal

ocean mirage Aug 20, 2019, 11:13 AM

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lol what is that emoji

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 11:13 AM

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It's pc principal

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 11:13 AM

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At least we don't need to ask for solid streets...

ocean mirage Aug 20, 2019, 11:14 AM

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I don't deal with solid streets or solid states

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 11:14 AM

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Solid Street drives?

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 11:14 AM

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😄

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 11:14 AM

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For the fast movement of data?

ocean mirage Aug 20, 2019, 11:14 AM

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I use valve drives

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my data got toan

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 11:16 AM

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Damn I just was reminded of VR. Now I still want a Unifi Setup, a Teppanyaki Grill, a VR Headset... throwing around the €

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I still need stuff for my car

ocean mirage Aug 20, 2019, 11:16 AM

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lol

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having multiple hobbies is not fun for that reason

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what car stuff

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 11:17 AM

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New Wheels 18" with summer tires because current is just 17" with winter tires

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1400€ for that car

ocean mirage Aug 20, 2019, 11:17 AM

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big boy wheels

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wow thats some money

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 11:18 AM

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Next week it gets a new painting of the bonnet, 400 bucks

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And want to foil mirrors and roof

ocean mirage Aug 20, 2019, 11:18 AM

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what car

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 11:18 AM

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Just a 2018 Mini Clubman

ocean mirage Aug 20, 2019, 11:18 AM

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oh right yeah

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chubbman

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 11:21 AM

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I have 19" on the wife's Tiguan

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oof

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 11:21 AM

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Bigger looks always better, but the car will be slower and you will use more fuel. As well as the tires get more expensive. So I just stick to 17/18, that is actually pretty standard here

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A few weeks ago I saw a BMW X5 parking in front of the entry from the tower I work and the rear tires had like 30cm width

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I don't wanna pay that

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 11:23 AM

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Yeah, the Tiguan came with the 19, considering replacing them with 17

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Because they look nice, but don't ride nice, or cost nice

ocean mirage Aug 20, 2019, 11:29 AM

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I don’t agree that bigger always looks better

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17 is stock on my car and I’d prefer 16s to 18s

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Also yeah BMW X5s are ugly battering rams

late gate Aug 20, 2019, 11:35 AM

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My old Bmw X5 was horrible. The tires are huge yes, and cost an arm and leg to replace

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 11:35 AM

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The tuning scene here is like "as big as possible, not seeing a cm of space between the tire and the rest of the car"

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So 20"+

past idol Aug 20, 2019, 11:43 AM

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Hello guys
Having issues with dark sky
No state available for weather.weather
{
"entity": "weather.weather",
"type": "weather-forecast"
}
I checked every source in google and the given ones in the description of the discord channel but nothing seems to solve this problem
the weather card is not showing up

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 11:48 AM

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#1 This is #the-water-cooler and not #330944238910963714

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And #3 don't fucking cross post 3 or more times

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 11:55 AM

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@boreal pewter I once saw a Pajero with tires so big they built 20-30cm out from the wheel arch, Jesus that looked expensive to replace 😛

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 11:57 AM

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lol

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If money was no matter I'd take a McClaren Senna and give a fuck about the size of the tires 😄

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 12:04 PM

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If money was no issue.... I'd want a factory new vw phaeton, first Gen, or a Audi 200 fully loaded, I might even accept a Opel Senator with the digital dash

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I like the oldies 😛

copper elm Aug 20, 2019, 12:05 PM

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Can somebody help me set something up in Hass.io/Home Assistant?

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 12:05 PM

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@copper elm #330990055533576204

copper elm Aug 20, 2019, 12:08 PM

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Nobody is replying. I need help setting up Tuya with Hass.io

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 12:08 PM

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Tuya is a core component, so that is #330944238910963714

velvet horizonBOT Aug 20, 2019, 12:09 PM

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@copper elm List of FAQs, including one explaining the difference between Home Assistant (the software) and Hass.io (an installer).

copper elm Aug 20, 2019, 12:09 PM

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Ok

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 12:23 PM

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https://open.spotify.com/track/3sLhHmF8St2yvwobowFZTC?si=Q2_uEIjeRxmvt86YSaEQBA

Spotify

Where Are You Now

Where Are You Now, a song by Bjørn Riis on Spotify

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@orchid rose wtf random word generator is what Finnish is 😂

📎 JPEG_20190820_143553.jpg

orchid rose Aug 20, 2019, 1:05 PM

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Moon Fog Profet. Never does the sun set. A superhero bored of constantly having to rescue the world...

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looks much neater in Finnish @clear ferry

hearty depot Aug 20, 2019, 1:10 PM

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@clear ferry lol blast from the past - We had this band (Russkaja) playing on our scool event like ages ago.. Gush.. I feel old

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 1:18 PM

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@hearty depot you are probably the youngest here! except @light trout

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he is like, four and a half!

light trout Aug 20, 2019, 1:18 PM

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4 & 3/4!

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 1:18 PM

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bcaRBdance

hearty depot Aug 20, 2019, 1:18 PM

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Nobody is younger then Ludeeus 🤣 thats a constant

hearty depot Aug 20, 2019, 2:08 PM

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lol - that would be awesome for lovelace
https://youtu.be/t2IECmMjKlA

YouTube

Uizard

Uizard code mode

Explore the entire generated project structure of your prototype in HTML/CSS, React, and Android. Music from: Moody Swing by Oshóva | https://soundcloud.com/...

▶ Play video

hushed basalt Aug 20, 2019, 2:39 PM

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@strange vapor our generators are powered by kangaroos

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Roonewable energy

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I'm here all week!

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I'm officially allowed to make Dad jokes now

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images (7).jpeg (240×159)

📎 images_7.jpeg

unreal orbit Aug 20, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Everyone is having babies and I'm just sitting here making an automation to play music when I walk through my door

strange vapor Aug 20, 2019, 2:46 PM

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@unreal orbit Lack of having babies means you have the disposable income to do stuff like that nicely 😉

unreal orbit Aug 20, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Very true

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Honestly thinking about babys I can't yet understand how anyone wants that. I mean you even get a 3 months retoure (at least in my country)

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 2:47 PM

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@unreal orbit the process of making is fun, for most people, I can recommend it, however the needles involved for me were not so fun, but the end result was worth it 🤣 it also means YET ANOTHER PERSON to automate for!! which is always good 🤣

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Hey baby, let's bind us 18 years to something that may turn out good, or shit. Worthwhile we pay at least 100k for it so it will be unthankful at least in the age of 12-18. And yeah we don't need space, or good whole night sleep"

orchid rose Aug 20, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Biology might have something to do with it. People and their weird feels

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 2:48 PM

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My daughter of 10 months already is starting to understand that my google home is important, she stares at it when I give it commands 🤣

unreal orbit Aug 20, 2019, 2:50 PM

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That's one reason we are not having a baby yet. In my country you are guaranteed nothing as far as leave goes

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 2:50 PM

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the US ?

unreal orbit Aug 20, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Yup

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 2:50 PM

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If you start working for HPE you get 6 months paid leave 😉

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 2:50 PM

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No 3 month return?

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Sucks

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 2:50 PM

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#bestcompanyintheworld

unreal orbit Aug 20, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Not even 3 days, literally no guarantees

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 2:51 PM

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https://www.hpe.com/us/en/newsroom/press-release/2019/04/hpe-announces-six-months-paid-parental-leave-additional-employee-benefits-at-hq-grand-opening.html

unreal orbit Aug 20, 2019, 2:51 PM

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You could be fired for missing work to have your baby in the hospital

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Had a collegue of mine in the US discussing this, he had 3 days, his wife who had a c-section got 6 days

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while I get 50 weeks paid leave 🤣

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Yeah but still, even 6 months free and paid. You got that little less intelligent thing around for 18 years

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And pay a lot for it

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 2:52 PM

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you are such a downer @boreal pewter 😛

unreal orbit Aug 20, 2019, 2:52 PM

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c'est la vie 🤷

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 2:52 PM

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😄

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 2:53 PM

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I'm doing 2-3 days leave every week for a whole year

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so I'm only using 28 of my 50 weeks

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but I need to make some dough too 🤣

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and the kid starts kindergarden at 1y2m too, so no need for me to be home

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I heard in the US you can pay like $2000 a month for kindergarden shock

unreal orbit Aug 20, 2019, 2:54 PM

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If you don't want to go to public school, then yeah

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 2:54 PM

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we pay $50 for full boarding with all meals included

unreal orbit Aug 20, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Our private schools are 99% religious-based

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 2:55 PM

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that is a nono for me 🤣

unreal orbit Aug 20, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Which are "non-profit" for profit

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You don't want your kids being taught that dinosaurs were made up by Satan to trick you into not following God's plan?

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Why not?

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 2:58 PM

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haha, I don't think we are allowed to have that discussion here, @light trout will destroy us 🤣

unreal orbit Aug 20, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Well when you tattle on me 😉

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 2:59 PM

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https://www.wikihow.com/images/thumb/3/37/Handle-a-Tattletale-Child-Step-1.jpg/aid8327280-v4-728px-Handle-a-Tattletale-Child-Step-1.jpg

strange vapor Aug 20, 2019, 2:59 PM

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https://twitter.com/jason_koebler/status/1163480559999430656

Jason Koebler (@jason_koebler)

Apple accidentally unpatched a bug it had already fixed and now all up-to-date iPhones are vulnerable to hackers and there's a working jailbreak sitting on Github as we speak

https://t.co/8hKVKrt4w0

Retweets

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Also: https://duo.com/decipher/backdoor-found-in-webmin-utility

Decipher

Backdoor Found in Webmin Utility

Last year, an attacker was able to compromise the build system used for Webmin development and inserted a backdoor into the code, which was only revealed this week.

hushed basalt Aug 20, 2019, 3:00 PM

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@strange vapor don't forget disposable time as well

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Time is what I am poor in right now

strange vapor Aug 20, 2019, 3:01 PM

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I'm happily without kids, and still time poor! Need to kill off some projects which will never get finished!

hushed basalt Aug 20, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Shoot them in the head

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Time box things

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If they take over a certain amount of time per task it's probably a bad project or the wrong approach

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Don't look at all these devices on my desk still in their packaging

strange vapor Aug 20, 2019, 3:04 PM

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In a few cases, I've just outsourced them. Cost more, but meh! At least they get done properly then.

hushed basalt Aug 20, 2019, 3:04 PM

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Do as I say not as I do

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I still have 5 bulbs to flash and program.

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Plus an IKEA gateway to setup

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Plus snapshot.jpgs from baby monitor to wifes watch on noise trigger

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Plus interfacing alarm PIRs to a nodemcu

strange vapor Aug 20, 2019, 3:05 PM

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And that's just the HA related projects.

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Do you have life outside HA? 😄

hushed basalt Aug 20, 2019, 3:06 PM

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I am self studying, work full time and have a six month old

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So no

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But my one piece of advice is

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Build simple, build up, build fast

strange vapor Aug 20, 2019, 3:07 PM

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Not "Wear Sunscreen"???

hushed basalt Aug 20, 2019, 3:07 PM

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It's better to rough a project through from beginning to end and then improve

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Than to try and do stage one awesome and not deliver value

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 3:10 PM

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https://open.spotify.com/track/1TQ6a2NEA8LmKfgf0yeBvT?si=bZ2YKx-4RzymR5t15LtFpg

Spotify

Everybody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen)

Everybody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen), a song by Quindon Tarver, Josh Abrahams on Spotify

strange vapor Aug 20, 2019, 3:10 PM

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If I was to start from scratch on most of the infrastructure I've built up over the years, I'd just collapse in fright. Lots of small projects which gradually worked together in the way I want, but which have taken years to actually build.

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Saying that, I've been careful to automate where possible. So, for example, when my primary Mail and DNS server went bang a few months back, I was able to slot in new hardware, run ansible against it, restore MailDirs and DNS from backups, and get on with life!

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Only annoying part was that it borked when I was out of the country. Proper Backup MX was a life saver 😄

midnight adder Aug 20, 2019, 3:37 PM

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Hey guys!

Could you give a hand with this small poll?
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/help-automation-scenarios-poll/132914

Thanks in advance!
Humberto

Home Assistant Community

Help - Automation Scenarios Poll

Hello guys! I would like to kindly ask less than five minutes of your time and fill this small poll. As a student and domotics’ enthusiast working on a domotics use case, I would like to know how frequently the following scenarios appear on your automations. Thanks in adv...

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 3:42 PM

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So my Deskmini is built, except for the RAM

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Honestly that small Noctua cooler weights like 500g

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haha 467g, nice guess

orchid rose Aug 20, 2019, 4:22 PM

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weight is an important factor in cooling ofc. So much so that it was common knowledge that heavy amplifiers are going to be much better than cheap light ones. So nowadays the high end manufacturers sometimes just add lead weights in to the devices

boreal pewter Aug 20, 2019, 4:24 PM

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I also think that the connector plate of the pipes to the cpu is pretty massive, often like 1-2cm thick and massive, so it weights the most

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However the cooler is still the best one for a Deskmini and you still can change to a bigger fan

orchid rose Aug 20, 2019, 4:28 PM

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I'm still rocking with a full ATX tower with some massive cooler for my now 8 year-old cpu...

late gate Aug 20, 2019, 4:31 PM

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One year ago I would never imagine to hire a lawyer in Norway to make a company follow the consumer laws :/

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Hahahaha wtf

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📎 Screenshot_20190820_183546_com.instagram.android.jpg

strange vapor Aug 20, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Just reading through this https://learnui.design/blog/4-rules-intuitive-ux.html and looking at the amount of dropdowns in the Configuration UI 😦

4 Rules for Intuitive UX – Learn UI Design

Obey the Law of Locality · ABD: Anything But Dropdowns · Pass the Squint Test · Teach by example

trail crag Aug 20, 2019, 6:11 PM

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@strange vapor though there is a lot of type-ahead control

strange vapor Aug 20, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Goddamnit! Wondering why a time based automation wasn't working. System clock set to UTC, we're currently in Summer Time :/

clear ferry Aug 20, 2019, 7:20 PM

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EU decided to abolish summer time didn't they?

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From 202* something

clever mortar Aug 20, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Yeah, everybody gets to chose which they want - permanent DST or not

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And by "chose" I mean do what everybody else does

strange vapor Aug 20, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Sooner the better! Might mean less changelogs like:


  * New upstream version, affecting the following past and future
    timestamps:
    - Palestine will not start DST until 2019-03-30, instead of 2019-03-23
      as previously predicted.
    - Metlakatla ended its observance of Pacific standard time, rejoining
      Alaska Time, on 2019-01-20 at 02:00.

 -- Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org>  Wed, 27 Mar 2019 21:34:20 +0100

midnight adder Aug 20, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Just got a nice Mi Band 4

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anybody know if it can be somehow hooked up to home assistant

clever mortar Aug 20, 2019, 7:37 PM

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#330944238910963714 might know 😉

late gate Aug 20, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Happy im not living at this address. Would never remember it

📎 image.png

unreal orbit Aug 20, 2019, 8:53 PM

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For anyone that doesn't have code-server setup, you need to do yourself a favor and get that going. By far the greatest addition to my self-hosted setup in months

hearty depot Aug 20, 2019, 9:22 PM

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You mean vs-code?

unreal orbit Aug 20, 2019, 9:24 PM

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It's a self-hosted instance of vs-code, yes

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https://github.com/cdr/code-server

GitHub

cdr/code-server

Run VS Code on a remote server. Contribute to cdr/code-server development by creating an account on GitHub.

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People often ask what the best way to edit your config is ☝

late gate Aug 20, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Vi :p

unreal orbit Aug 20, 2019, 9:31 PM

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That would require ssh

hearty depot Aug 20, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Same as https://github.com/hassio-addons/addon-vscode/tree/v0.6.4 ?

GitHub

hassio-addons/addon-vscode

Visual Studio Code - Community Hass.io Add-on for Home Assistant - hassio-addons/addon-vscode

unreal orbit Aug 20, 2019, 9:34 PM

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remote server using code-server

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yes

hearty depot Aug 20, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Yes really awesome - ingress is neat too

hushed basalt Aug 21, 2019, 1:19 AM

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I push my code to GitHub then my server pulls it and restarts HA

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Means I have source control as well as no secrets in the repo

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I have a golden rule of never putting sensitive information in a repo folder, even in gitignore

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One way copy/deploy to server

hushed basalt Aug 21, 2019, 3:03 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20190821-110252_Bixby_Voice.jpg

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Urgh

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Can't change my hardware key without signing up to samsung and agreeing to everything

tough igloo Aug 21, 2019, 3:36 AM

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might as well. They already own you lol

hushed basalt Aug 21, 2019, 4:54 AM

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My souuuullllll

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 5:30 AM

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On the road again

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🎵

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Perks of Livin 20 minutes from the main airport of Norway😛

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Can sleep longer

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 6:18 AM

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Safe travels!

torn horizon Aug 21, 2019, 6:26 AM

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What is your failover system in case of electricity failure ?

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 6:27 AM

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A few million hamsters on hamster wheels hooked up to dynos

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 6:27 AM

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You mean when I have a dumb house @torn horizon ?

eager trench Aug 21, 2019, 6:27 AM

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most houses are dumb when no power

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 6:27 AM

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Exactly

eager trench Aug 21, 2019, 6:28 AM

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haha

torn horizon Aug 21, 2019, 6:28 AM

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Even for sécurité devices ?

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Like cams

eager trench Aug 21, 2019, 6:28 AM

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my alarm has a backup battery

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 6:29 AM

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Mine does too, and the alarm company has keys to go in and flip breakers if needed

strange vapor Aug 21, 2019, 10:15 AM

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Looking at updating the alarm system in my place at some point. It's the cream of 80s tech!

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Works perfectly, but would be nice to have some interface outside of a dodgy keypad 😄

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 10:19 AM

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konnected

velvet horizonBOT Aug 21, 2019, 10:20 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/components/konnected/

eager trench Aug 21, 2019, 10:20 AM

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I fit a SonoffSV to my ‘80s alarm so I can at least control it in HA and can also get notifications via phone>email if something happens as well

boreal pewter Aug 21, 2019, 10:20 AM

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-tinkerer

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Damn Bot

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 10:21 AM

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~ or .

velvet horizonBOT Aug 21, 2019, 10:21 AM

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His GitHub and his blog

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 10:21 AM

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See also #botspam 😉

boreal pewter Aug 21, 2019, 10:21 AM

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.Anon

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 10:22 AM

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You have to have it added to the bot

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Sadly it's not magic, yet anyway

boreal pewter Aug 21, 2019, 10:22 AM

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😄

orchid rose Aug 21, 2019, 10:53 AM

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oh no, aliexpress sale in five days... 💸

hearty depot Aug 21, 2019, 10:54 AM

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What you ll get yourself?

orchid rose Aug 21, 2019, 10:54 AM

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sensors, led strip, bulbs so far

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who knows what else I will need

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 10:55 AM

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Need? What has need got to do with it?

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But, now I know the sale is on, there goes this month's budget...

orchid rose Aug 21, 2019, 10:56 AM

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it's the lie I tell myself so I can sleep

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 10:56 AM

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Yeah... now. New laptop, or more toys from Ali... 🤔

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Dammit

light trout Aug 21, 2019, 10:57 AM

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How about both? 🤷‍♀️

hearty depot Aug 21, 2019, 10:57 AM

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Still waiting for my last delivery- stuck at the "zoll" for the last 3 weeks

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 10:59 AM

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Well, I can get a discount on the Lenovo I'm considering if I buy it through work... so maybe both 😄

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🤣

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You're bad for my finances you know that 😛

light trout Aug 21, 2019, 11:00 AM

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Add it to the list of things that break when I'm around 🤷‍♀️

strange vapor Aug 21, 2019, 11:05 AM

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@eager trench Had a look at doing the same, and even found someone who had documented what pins I could abuse in the control box. However, some previous installer has put some sort of resin over the pins!!

boreal pewter Aug 21, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Is anyone a HDD pro and can quicky tell me if it's worth to get 2 SEAGATE STHP5000400 for a Deskmini to run Torrents and 4k Plex streaming?

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Worth checking the Backblaze hard disk stats

boreal pewter Aug 21, 2019, 12:32 PM

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Cant find it

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 12:33 PM

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Your Google fu is seriously weak

velvet horizonBOT Aug 21, 2019, 12:33 PM

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:point_up: Let me Google that for you...

Here , try this:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Backblaze+Hard+Drive+Stats+Q2+2019

boreal pewter Aug 21, 2019, 12:34 PM

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I have it open and dont See it there 🤦

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The page itself I found

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Ah nvm they dont fit a Deskmini anyway

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 12:37 PM

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Any time you want to know about HD brands and generations, they're a great source

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You'll find out how well they last, and whether there's any major issues

late gate Aug 21, 2019, 12:45 PM

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Anyone know any other hidden trigger words for google home devices than hey bobo?

boreal pewter Aug 21, 2019, 12:52 PM

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Yeah but obvisouly this HDD is not listed, or did I miss it now 3 times looking? @clever mortar

noble bison Aug 21, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Hi, does anyone know of a component which can monitor and comand lan Linux nodes? For example run reboot, monitor CPU/RAM etc?

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 3:21 PM

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#330944238910963714 would be where to ask

dark swallow Aug 21, 2019, 3:34 PM

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I have a love/hate relationship with Lutron's Caseta. I love how well it works and how natural the switches look while still making them smart. But the limitations they put on their systems are so arbitrary! They used to limit you to 50 devices and now have magically upgraded it to 75! And they probably treat it like they made some break through in the software when really they just raised their artificial limit designed to make you pay for a more expensive system

📎 Screenshot_2019-08-21-10-29-32.png

unreal orbit Aug 21, 2019, 3:36 PM

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🤷 it costs money to host a service, limiting devices is one way of cutting costs

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Also that seems to be them advertising that there are literally more devices you can buy that are compatible with their system

shy comet Aug 21, 2019, 3:42 PM

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isnt lutron locally controlled though?

unreal orbit Aug 21, 2019, 3:43 PM

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I assume they also have a cloud service for remotely controlling devices

dark swallow Aug 21, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Yeah well they used to limit you to 50 devices per hub

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and now i think's 75 per hub

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and i get the cost of maintaining the remote access stuff

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but really they limit caseta because they want you to purchase their RadioRa system which is crazy expensive

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or the just slightly cheaper radiora select

unreal orbit Aug 21, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Hub limits are usually hardware based. I doubt they just changed that with an update. If they did then I agree that's BS

dark swallow Aug 21, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Yeah that's what I thought too but they already increased to 50 from something lower I think like 35

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so not quite hardware based!

unreal orbit Aug 21, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Still could be hardware limitations that they have optimized with software updates (such as decreasing the memory that each device uses), but I won't rule out them just doing things that corporations do

dark swallow Aug 21, 2019, 3:49 PM

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maybe but how their marketing and product strategy looks I doubt it

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they also have a normal hub and a "Pro" hub the only difference is the pro one also has support for telnet interface which allows it to work with HA

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and this "pro" hub is not sold at stores and can only be bought by people like electrical contractors

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My theory is that their more expensive RadioRa select isn't selling well but Caseta is so they are trying to keep up with competition like samsung smart things or philips hue because caseta is priced the same as those but radiora select is so much more for only a little bit more feature-wise

boreal pewter Aug 21, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Woah my Deskmini is running 😄

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Life saved

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Fun fact, accordingly to a benchmark that cheap ass Ryzen 5 3400g has an overall 8%+ performance above an i7 6700k which my dedicated Hetzner server has and costs 50€ a month. Except for my poor internet home connection I think about getting a local storage box and just move everything here

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 6:34 PM

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@unreal orbit

📎 JPEG_20190821_203438.jpg

unreal orbit Aug 21, 2019, 6:36 PM

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That's pretty

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am I looking for Waldo?

boreal pewter Aug 21, 2019, 6:38 PM

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The marker makes it almost look like a street into the w/e this is

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 6:38 PM

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It is my current location, you always enjoy the Norwegian scenery @unreal orbit 😛

unreal orbit Aug 21, 2019, 6:39 PM

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I enjoy all Scandinavian scenery. I hope to go there one day soon

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 6:40 PM

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My house is open for tea 😂

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This is Molde btw

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molde?wprov=sfla1

Molde?wprov=sfla1

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 7:53 PM

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Mmmm beer

worn jasper Aug 21, 2019, 8:08 PM

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gah i hate when peop.e don't listen!

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GF is out looking at cars, first car for her and shes falling into the saleman crap and i'm like nope don't do it! I'd be with her if i werent at work haha

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 8:09 PM

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I let the wife pick cars, she has better sense than me 😛

worn jasper Aug 21, 2019, 8:09 PM

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she wanted price on one and salesman wanted to get some basic info from her, i'm like heck no don't do that, if they won't tell you the price walk away, they wanna run your credit and give you what they want!

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LOL i bought my car before i met her, no sense at all then

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i seen the car and said sold! Now i'm complaining 5 years later that i'm still paying $600 a month for it XD

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but its so fun!

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 8:11 PM

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Sounds like America, a place i would never buy a car , or become ill 😉

worn jasper Aug 21, 2019, 8:14 PM

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LOL yeah as a constantly ill person i just don't go to dr or anything, cheaper to just miss a day here and there when it gets really bad than pay the outrageous insurance costs that don't cover squat anyways

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Probably the best live acoustic album ever made

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https://open.spotify.com/album/4VwjpjXz6mi63IYV3Td5HQ?si=_jVFohXzRKmNwA1p6hx9oQ

Spotify

Acoustic Live

Acoustic Live, an album by Nils Lofgren on Spotify

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Motherbleeper I hate hotels that don't have extra pillows in the closet

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 8:41 PM

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That's what house keeping is for

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Hello, I need enough pillows to build a fort and I only have four

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 8:42 PM

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I hear you are the business traveller of us two 😛

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Some months...

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Some of my colleagues really do travel - I refuse to live out of suitcases and hotels

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 8:44 PM

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I wish I had more travelling, like once a week, but the baby needs me too, so I'll hold back until she starts kindergarten atleast 😛

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Once a month is my this is ok threshold

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Though, I've had some months where it's been and which city am I in today...

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Had a colleague who traveled three days a week, that's too much

worn jasper Aug 21, 2019, 8:47 PM

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LOL what is traveling?

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 8:49 PM

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You know, what business people do 😛

clever mortar Aug 21, 2019, 8:50 PM

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I know a sales rep who's only home for some weekends, and basically lives in hotels, bars, and airport lounges

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To me, that's a crazy life, but they love it

clear ferry Aug 21, 2019, 8:51 PM

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I played in a band with a sales guy who was like that

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He literally had a different girl in every town

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Wherever I went with him some girl would show up out of nowhere

leaden adder Aug 21, 2019, 9:14 PM

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somebody with an Synology NAS here that could try a curl call for me?

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My NAS need seconds, something about 10 to reply to this simple login request:
curl -d "method=Login&account=hass&passwd=*****&format=cookie&api=SYNO.API.Auth&version=2&session=SurveillanceStation" -X POST http://192.168.178.2:5000/webapi/auth.cgi
Would be great to know if i'm alone with this problem

fickle tendon Aug 21, 2019, 10:26 PM

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@leaden adder I'm having trouble logging in with that (I don't have surveillance station, and things tend to be locked down security wise), but the error response comes back in 2 seconds. Having said that, when my NAS' drives are spun down it easily takes 10+ seconds to even get the DSM login page as unfortunately it needs to spin up the drives for that. Seeing how you're using their web API I would not be surprised if it has the same limitation

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@leaden adder just tried it on my second NAS and it probably took ~15 seconds for it to come back with a login failure, and it did spin up its drives. So likely that's the delay you're seeing

leaden adder Aug 21, 2019, 10:29 PM

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good to know, thank you. That script to detect wether my surveillance station is in home more or not worked wonderful with a 5 seconds timeout for months. And since a few weeks even a 15 seconds timeout is not reliable anymore 😦

fickle tendon Aug 21, 2019, 10:30 PM

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any chance your surveillance station stopped recording in that time? (drives full, can't connect to cameras etc.)

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that would make it spin down the drives whereas it didn't before

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can't think of anything else

leaden adder Aug 21, 2019, 10:58 PM

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There is enough space on the drives and the camera are working fine in the web gui

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i tried the login while scanning for viruses, still this long time

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even the official Synology Componen get's timeout now

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 5:39 AM

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presidentsleeper

tough igloo Aug 22, 2019, 6:54 AM

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Sleep well my child

orchid rose Aug 22, 2019, 9:30 AM

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@midnight adder let's continue the topic here, as I'm looking for something for my own setup as well

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Where are you located? My experience in Finland is that devices like these get caught by Customs every time which adds another 24% to the price

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So personally I'm looking for a used i3 or i5 NUC which should be less than 100€ at this point everything included

rich rivet Aug 22, 2019, 9:36 AM

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power consumption might be the concern. i move from mini desktop to raspberry pi due to money power bill 😆 20 vs 0.80 a month

orchid rose Aug 22, 2019, 9:38 AM

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NUC idle consumption is around 6W, Pi around 2W

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The old i5 NUC I'm looking at is around 5W

rich rivet Aug 22, 2019, 9:40 AM

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OMG this low !! Windows 10, idle on desktop 5.6 W

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i should have consider this as well then.

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NUC power 👆

orchid rose Aug 22, 2019, 9:42 AM

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Yeah, it's pretty impressive. I set up two NUCs for my dad, one for desktop and one for HTPC and both have been working pretty well, even though they are on the slower side

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 9:45 AM

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I think a few users use those cheapies with good reports

rich rivet Aug 22, 2019, 9:51 AM

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let me take a look in china store

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Dont take a NUC

hushed basalt Aug 22, 2019, 10:08 AM

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Only problem with NUCs is the fan

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I got an i5 8th gen nuc at work

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And the fan is quite loud

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Tiny fana

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 10:09 AM

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Wasn't the Deskmini available when u bought it?

hushed basalt Aug 22, 2019, 10:10 AM

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I don't know what that is

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 10:10 AM

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Deskmini A300 self-build miniPC/miniServer is just much better and cheaper option to a NUC

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But it just came out like half a year ago

hushed basalt Aug 22, 2019, 10:11 AM

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I had a look online

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 10:11 AM

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Since then there is no reason to take a NUC except you buy a used one ebcause of €€€

hushed basalt Aug 22, 2019, 10:11 AM

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Interesting, kind of ugly though

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I also wanted something with integrated processor,

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Just byo drive and ram

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 10:14 AM

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Oh you wanted something not modular so in case of a break you can throw it away

rich rivet Aug 22, 2019, 10:14 AM

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guess just grab a rap pi 4

hushed basalt Aug 22, 2019, 10:14 AM

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I've been building pcs for decades

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And I've never replaced a cpu

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The CPU i put in has always been the only cpu in the system

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And the warranty for the nuc is like three years

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After that it's getting due for a hardware refresh anyways

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 10:16 AM

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Tho more money for less performance and more noise

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Seems like a good deal to me

hushed basalt Aug 22, 2019, 10:16 AM

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Intel NICs, known history,

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Plus thunderbolt 3

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 10:17 AM

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Yeah I don't know anyone except stupid intel fanboys that would take an intel, at least since Ryzen 2xxx

ocean mirage Aug 22, 2019, 10:17 AM

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Yeah in my experience CPUs last forever

hushed basalt Aug 22, 2019, 10:17 AM

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Yeah okay

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Computers are things that let me do what I need to do

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Not things I work on for fun

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My time is literally more valuable than the $100? Price difference

ocean mirage Aug 22, 2019, 10:20 AM

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Yeah probably not much time but easy is easy

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NUCs seem cool

hushed basalt Aug 22, 2019, 10:20 AM

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For $750 aud shipped I got a nuc i5, 16gb corsair ram and a 256gb samsung evo nvme

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And all i needed to do was insert a dimm and screw in the nvme and it's done

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And it's not even my money

ocean mirage Aug 22, 2019, 10:21 AM

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oof too much

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why no prebuilt hp

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But yeah I can agree with that, I like DIY stuff but computers are mostly so basic so its not that engaging

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just work

hushed basalt Aug 22, 2019, 10:22 AM

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The nuc alone is rrp $670

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 10:22 AM

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My NUC is silent - never heard the fan

ocean mirage Aug 22, 2019, 10:23 AM

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Do they have fanless models?

hushed basalt Aug 22, 2019, 10:23 AM

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I'm not sure why mine makes sound

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 10:23 AM

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@clear ferry You're HP... Can you let me know when you're releasing nice Infinite Bandwidth and Disk Capacity servers? Might have need of them this morning!

hushed basalt Aug 22, 2019, 10:23 AM

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But it's definitely not silent

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 10:23 AM

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Apparently they all have fans

hushed basalt Aug 22, 2019, 10:23 AM

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Maybe you live in an eski or something

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 10:24 AM

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Australia...

ocean mirage Aug 22, 2019, 10:24 AM

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That is very vague

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Fanless would be cool but I guess that only really works in fully integrated stuff like the surface pro i5 models

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 10:25 AM

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@strange vapor HPE mind you, HP is just shite, but we already do, it's called green lake or flex capacity, so we monitor your usage and add hardware as needed to your environment

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 10:26 AM

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Don't think you can make the hardare fast enough for what some of the devs I'm dealing with are doing :/

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 10:27 AM

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We always have atleast 10% extra hardware onsite, can be 100% that can be enabled on the fly

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 10:27 AM

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In one of the dev environments, had the level of logs increase a factor of 10000 over night, and they're complaining that the logs were being lost!

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 10:42 AM

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Hello

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Which router should I get for HA usage?

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 10:46 AM

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The one that fits your usage, in speed, ports and features 😛

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 10:46 AM

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Cisco ASR series 😉

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 10:47 AM

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Go Flexfabric 12500 then!

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 10:49 AM

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Unifi Security Gateway 😄

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 10:50 AM

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Anything around 100 usd? 😄

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https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/85254/intel-nuc-kit-nuc5cpyh.html

Intel® NUC Kit NUC5CPYH Product Specifications

Intel® NUC Kit NUC5CPYH quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.

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What is your opinion about this one ?

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Not a router dho , separate question

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 10:51 AM

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Honestly for a 100 bucks I wouldn't expect anything special

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Even a full Pi4 costs 100 bucks lol

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If you go higher, for like 450€ you get a Deskmini build

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And from there on I would consider uATX/mini-ITX builds

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(for higher performance tho)

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Like serverbuilds.net even has very cheap 1155 builds

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 10:54 AM

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100 usd for the router

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 10:54 AM

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Unifi Security Gateway costs 100 😄

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 10:54 AM

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And for now i am fine with raspberry like performance

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I just do not like the issues

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That is why i want a mini pc

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For my usage it should be more than fine for now

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This one?

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Ubiquiti UniFi USG Enterprise Security Gateway Router

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 10:56 AM

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If it costs 100 then yes, there are just 2 versions. Second is "Pro" and should cost like 300

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That is to consider if you think about rebuilding your WIFI to Unifi AP's in the long term

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I plan so this is what comes in mind 😄

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 10:58 AM

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I see

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Yes you are right

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How this rebuild works

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Is there any better at 100?

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Or this one seems universal@for the price range?

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 10:59 AM

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I can't answer that honestly. Yet I only used FritzBox Modem-Routers

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:02 AM

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I see

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Thanks

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:02 AM

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I wanna rebuild to Unifi because Wifi from Wifi Routers is usually shit

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:04 AM

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Truly

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:05 AM

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I’ve used a FB WiFi/Modem/Router for years and it works well...

ocean mirage Aug 22, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Yeah you gotta spend a bit to get decent APs in routers

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I got a unifi AP lite recently, working well

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:06 AM

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If I was looking for WiFi only that would be my choice too..

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:07 AM

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I have a FritzBox 7590 and I don't get any usable Wifi signal in the next room with just one wall

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So I extended it with Devolo DLAN1200+ and even that works shit

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So next Unifi

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:09 AM

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7590 here and I use a 7490 as a mesh repeater... big house... works well

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 11:09 AM

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@boreal pewter I have a Fritzbox as well, but it's being used as a straight bridge to a little rackmount server doing PPPoE. Then using Unifi for the Wireless.

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:10 AM

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I already found a way to degrade the FritzBox into Modem-Mode as soon as I get Unifi stuff 😛

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Then will do it the same as u @strange vapor

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 11:11 AM

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The fritzbox became a lot more reliable after I disabled the Wifi and other "features" and turned it into a dumb bridge!

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:11 AM

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😄

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:11 AM

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Funny I bridge a Netcomm to the VDSL as the FB has crappy modem here lol

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But VoIP, WiFi etc are fine

ocean mirage Aug 22, 2019, 11:11 AM

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I bridge some telstra modem

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to an edgerouter

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:14 AM

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Can’t beat that Broadcom chipset in oz eh?

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:15 AM

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Wifi really depends on everything that is around. Like I'm in germany and our houses are real houses, really thick walls with metal and everything in. Can't compare to american 20cm wannabe walls I can even kick through.
And in a big town with 20 neighbours in the house it is really just about who has the strongest wifi because they interfer with each other

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I guess with Unifi my neighbours will love me

ocean mirage Aug 22, 2019, 11:16 AM

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pretty much David

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:16 AM

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Hahaha...... 20cm??? 10cm internals here lol

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:16 AM

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LOL

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:17 AM

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So yeah a FB blasts through those

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Lol

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 11:17 AM

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Front part of my house was built in the 30s, and the walls are about 3ft thick. Extension was built behind in the 80s, and the walls are only 2ft thick mass concrete :/

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Previous owners went with proper overkill on the extension!

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:18 AM

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I also have run Ethernet everywhere here anyway as I despise WiFi crept for iOT and phones etc...

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 11:18 AM

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So, there's a few Unifi APs dotted acount!

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:18 AM

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Wow

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 11:19 AM

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Handily, they ran Cat 3 and put RJ11 for phones in every room. That has all been replaced with Cat 6 and RJ45s 😃

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:20 AM

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Nice. Can’t beat that

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 11:20 AM

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Hell, the house I grew up in was mostly built in the 20s. The way they did it back then was to put up wooden boards, drop all the rubble they could between the boards, and then pump in cement.

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When we were extending it 15 years ago, we found actual Axles off old horse carts in the middle of the wall!!

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:22 AM

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LOLOL

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:23 AM

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Ah I really want to get started with HA on a proper rig

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Dirty expenses... :/ 😄

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 11:23 AM

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@midnight adder Start small and work up.

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:24 AM

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Yeah

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Sadly even small is hard to obtain

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:24 AM

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@midnight adder yeah just build a small Deskmini for just 450€

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It is ok for the start

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:24 AM

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With almost 0 money left at the end of the month

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 11:24 AM

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I started on a Pi3, and it's now moved to a little Intel N series based rackmount box hidden in the attic!

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:25 AM

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Where do u live Wilding?

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 11:25 AM

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And I think the move from SD card to SSD was the most benefitial part.

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I may have gone through a, em , few SD cards on the Pi3 😄

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:25 AM

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Hungary

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I would be happy with a pi

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HaPi

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😄

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 11:30 AM

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Pi is great for starting off, and the Pi4 is a stunning piece of kit! The logging does tend to not make SD cards happy though :/

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:30 AM

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A Pi4 kit still costs not too less

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:30 AM

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You can cut back the logging though

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 11:30 AM

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Replaced the Intel Nuc behind my TV with a Pi4 over the week. Happily playing 4K videos, and has freed up the NUC for other uses.

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:31 AM

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Sounds good

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:31 AM

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4k movies without transcoding, yeah

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:31 AM

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For the price of a celeron nuc i can get 2 pi 4’s

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:32 AM

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Wat is the price for a pi4

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?

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 11:32 AM

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Yup, no transcoding.

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:32 AM

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I would have offered to give away my Pi2 but I know it suddenly dies when it's inside about 30 degrees and it's pretty weak tho

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:32 AM

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Because I can purchase a basic nuc for around 120 usd

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:32 AM

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With ram and ssd?

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:32 AM

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@boreal pewter ah, so kind of you

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 11:32 AM

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I think it was arount the €50 mark for the 4GB model, but you need to add the cost of the case, PSU and hdmi cable on top of that which brings it closer to the €80 mark

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:33 AM

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Nope, just the machone

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Machine*

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However you need an ssd for the pi too

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:33 AM

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MicroSD

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:33 AM

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And ram is kinda cheap ( used 4 gig at least)

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:33 AM

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Right so a full nuc is around double the price of a full pi

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:33 AM

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Not really

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:33 AM

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Like a working one

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:33 AM

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I mean a pi is around 50 usd here

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Without any case

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Or any fancy stuff

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So if you pgrade it a bit it is nearly the price of a nuc

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However u are right pi still cheaper

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:34 AM

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Pi+case+sd-card+power x 2 = nuc +ssd+RAM

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:34 AM

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Kind of yes

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:35 AM

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Well apples and apples - you need those things for a real workable setup

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:35 AM

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is it overkill to use ssd

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:36 AM

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Oh indeed... I meant SD

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:37 AM

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So let's do @midnight adder Crowdfunding. I'm in with 5 bucks

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:37 AM

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@low stratusn no way sir, that would be too kind

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Even if it sounds awesome

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But I must say you are one of the nicest people around there on the internet. All this HA Discord group seems nice and helpful. I am glad that I am interested in this

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:39 AM

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As said I'm not too sure if a Pi2b will make you happy in the long term. For HA it is called "experimental" and "not recommended"

eager trench Aug 22, 2019, 11:41 AM

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Read: nightmare

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:47 AM

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@boreal pewter you think anybody would ever support such a thing apart from you? I mean is there any rationale to it?

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:50 AM

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Crowdfunding you mean?

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Maybe here within the community a few

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But noone agreed yet

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:53 AM

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I see

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Appreciate your help though

hushed basalt Aug 22, 2019, 11:55 AM

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Pi is an ARM

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No where near the real world performance of an AMD64

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 11:56 AM

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I only have the 2b to offer :/

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 11:58 AM

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Pi is around 65 usd here so, 60 more to go, that is either 12 person per 5$ or 60 per 1$ ☺😄

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Maybe I should dance in return or something

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HELLO

hearty depot Aug 22, 2019, 12:13 PM

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DONT SCREAM AT ME - I DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG!

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:13 PM

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you are right my friend, sorry

hearty depot Aug 22, 2019, 12:13 PM

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😛

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:13 PM

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@midnight adder @boreal pewter Count me in, I mean heck it, sometimes I spend 5 dollars on ice cream easily, why should not we help him out once

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you only need 11 more and you are okay, good luck

hearty depot Aug 22, 2019, 12:15 PM

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10 - as long paypal is ok 😉

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:15 PM

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For real guys? Ah no way I cannot believe this

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 12:16 PM

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See

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:16 PM

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I have PayPal yes however I do not know how @boreal pewter planned it 😄

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I am just a mere puny human in this topic right know

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However i am a happy one

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So many kind people

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 12:17 PM

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I have no idea, you either open a page on any crowdfunding platform or donation page via paypal or so 😛

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Maybe anyone here is familiar with that

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:17 PM

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PayPal donation page seems good idea, I am not sure how crowdfunding platforms work but maybe they take a cut or something

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Hmm, thank you I will check it out

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 12:18 PM

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Yeah right there is a special paypal donation link from within paypal?

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:18 PM

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I am not sure

hearty depot Aug 22, 2019, 12:21 PM

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I think it was
https://www.paypal.me/

PayPal.Me

Get your very own PayPal.Me link

Post it. Text it. Tag it. Share it. Shout it. And let your friends pay you back in a tap or two. Grab your PayPal.Me link today.

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Thank you I will check it

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:39 PM

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https://paypal.me/pools/c/8hzjm2rF18

Raspberry Pi

Thank you if you help me with my project to fund me a Raspberry Pi.

I really appreciate your help, your kindness and any amount, even the smallest amount makes me happy.

Thank you for your contribution!

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Is this working? @hearty depot @boreal pewter @midnight adder

marsh elbow Aug 22, 2019, 12:41 PM

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It seems to work, but they take 100 % fee

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:41 PM

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Oh for real?

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Ah

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Do you know about any alternatives?

late gate Aug 22, 2019, 12:42 PM

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Its so fun with wifi disturbance during day. Making smart home extremely difficult

📎 sept.PNG

marsh elbow Aug 22, 2019, 12:42 PM

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kind of interesting how that works psychologically

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 12:43 PM

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100% fee? Really

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ALternatively just provide your paypal Email and everyone needs to send manually via Family and Friends

marsh elbow Aug 22, 2019, 12:44 PM

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wouldn't hesitate to pitch in X HUF if receiver got most of it, but when I see that PayPal takes X/2 and receiver gets X/2, it's suddenly much less easy to go for it

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:44 PM

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I understand

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hmm

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maybe they are right

marsh elbow Aug 22, 2019, 12:44 PM

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just funny human brain at work

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:44 PM

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then could you please send me your email address?

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i think if I send it as family it is free

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U sure?

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wait a minute i will check it out on the web

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 12:46 PM

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Yeah Family and Friends is always free for all

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Oh you did a Paypal.me pool. In settings you can just make a paypal.me profile and there is a setting to accept family and friends donation

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:48 PM

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ah

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i see

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it says on the web

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if you use the Pool it takes a fee

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depending on the amount

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and also another one if you want to get your money out

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so it is rather complicated

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 12:49 PM

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You just create a paypal.me profile which then has a link like paypal.me/PROFILE

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Like paypal.me/anon

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It's in the settings

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:50 PM

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I am not sure about that but maybe he is right

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I am not using PP too often

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Okay

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I will try to find it

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I think i’ve found it

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It says personal payments

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Let your friend and family pay quickly. Its free for both of you...

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 12:53 PM

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Yep

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But u need a paypal.me profile, not pool

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:54 PM

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https://www.paypal.me/Wildling0720

PayPal.Me

Pay Prohászka Konrád using PayPal.Me

Go to paypal.me/Wildling0720 and type in the amount. Since it’s PayPal, it's easy and secure. Don’t have a PayPal account? No worries.

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This one if I am right

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Thank you @midnight adder @boreal pewter @marsh elbow @hearty depot

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I appreciate your help

marsh elbow Aug 22, 2019, 12:55 PM

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There's still a fee but it's smaller. 37 %

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 12:56 PM

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oh lol I already sent

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Stupid PP

hearty depot Aug 22, 2019, 12:56 PM

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Hungarian forinth?

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:57 PM

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for real Stig?

marsh elbow Aug 22, 2019, 12:57 PM

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mhm

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Yeah sorry but it could be dollars euro anything

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I just could not choose anything else

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 12:57 PM

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u can change currency

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Because of my locale

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 12:57 PM

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@midnight adder how much did u get yet?

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:57 PM

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5 Euros thank you very very much for your contribution 😃

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You know I really appreciate all your help

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And this quite generous amount

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So happy now

hearty depot Aug 22, 2019, 12:58 PM

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goal is 30 HUF? 0.01€?

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:58 PM

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☺

marsh elbow Aug 22, 2019, 12:58 PM

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goal is 30k

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 12:58 PM

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30k€

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😄

marsh elbow Aug 22, 2019, 12:58 PM

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^^

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yes please

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:58 PM

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Beware though

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Thwre is no goal on the free page

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Only use this one

hearty depot Aug 22, 2019, 12:58 PM

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ah! point xD

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 12:59 PM

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https://www.paypal.me/Wildling0720

PayPal.Me

Pay Prohászka Konrád using PayPal.Me

Go to paypal.me/Wildling0720 and type in the amount. Since it’s PayPal, it's easy and secure. Don’t have a PayPal account? No worries.

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Not the other

marsh elbow Aug 22, 2019, 12:59 PM

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There

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good luck with your project

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Oh thank you Sir

marsh elbow Aug 22, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Tomorrow I eat a lunchbox 😉

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:00 PM

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I’ve deleted the money pool

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Ah noo

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For reel?

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No way

marsh elbow Aug 22, 2019, 1:00 PM

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just kidding

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I did today too

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Do not give me any of that kind of money you need

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I mean i really glad and appreciate help

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Just do not want to rip anyone off

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Or anything

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And thank you I really really appreciate it all of you

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Only around 9 more people I think, I could not even believe this

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I should make you a keychain guys or something 😄

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To remember this good deed

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Ah my

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so which one works now?

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 1:03 PM

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https://www.paypal.me/Wildling0720

PayPal.Me

Pay Prohászka Konrád using PayPal.Me

Go to paypal.me/Wildling0720 and type in the amount. Since it’s PayPal, it's easy and secure. Don’t have a PayPal account? No worries.

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:04 PM

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docker gavemoney 5eur

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ah 😄

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@boreal pewter danke

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 1:04 PM

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😄

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Wonder if @clear ferry can sticky the paypal link 😛

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 1:07 PM

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Do you think I'm Dog or something? waitwhat

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:07 PM

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Someone did it again

hearty depot Aug 22, 2019, 1:07 PM

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How is it on the road?

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:07 PM

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Thank you Sir whoever sent it

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@hearty depot you mean how many ppl sent?

hearty depot Aug 22, 2019, 1:09 PM

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Nope - but still intrested - atxbyea is traveling atm - god knows where and what he does there.

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:09 PM

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Ah

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Ah I think he is coming for me

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As i spam this poor chat with my things

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 1:09 PM

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I just installed a Synergy 12000 and four networks switches,plus workshop and VMware zbkdab

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:10 PM

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That is nice indeed

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 1:10 PM

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Going back to the airport now

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:10 PM

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Where are you ?

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 1:10 PM

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Molde Norway atm

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:10 PM

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Ah no way

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That sounds great

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 1:11 PM

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@clear ferry is that norway dude

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:11 PM

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And how is a plane flight? Never tried

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Is it scary?

hearty depot Aug 22, 2019, 1:11 PM

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/orKper6TZZ4/maxresdefault.jpg

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Haha, no, I've flown .. 4-500 times in my life probably

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 1:12 PM

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It's not scary as long you're the only one wearing a parachute

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:12 PM

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I love mountains and fjords and everything. Except cold, yet maybe i just need better coats

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For reel?

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500 times

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 1:12 PM

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🤣

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Something like that yes

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:12 PM

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U can get used to it by now

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Parachute heh, so true, that could help

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If you manage not to pass out

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But we should not say such things before his flight 😄

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 1:14 PM

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Pff, I flew from Tromsø Norway to Auckland New Zealand without parents when I was 11, I'm not easily scared 😛

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:14 PM

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😄

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@strange vapor I think you also contributed so I eish to thank you personally

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 1:15 PM

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dogekek dogekek dogekek

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:15 PM

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Wish*

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I do not know if its work related but it is a good thing to travel

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When I red Joseph Conrad Heart of Darkness and facts about the author I always wondered how great could it be to travel around even if its work

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People tend to go to the same place a lot however instead they should travel around to widen their perspective by learning from other cultures

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 1:20 PM

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Currently waiting on a second Pi4 to get delivered to the office 😄

hearty depot Aug 22, 2019, 1:21 PM

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good idea.. I still rather stick at home 🙄

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:23 PM

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It is better then visiting a place over and over again

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@strange vapor what is the difference between the 3 and the 4?

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 1:24 PM

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POWER

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:24 PM

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Thank for whoever sent me Kroner 😄

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It is pending for now but it will be fine I think 😄

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Thanks

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 1:25 PM

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https://www.paypal.me/Wildling0720

PayPal.Me

Pay Prohászka Konrád using PayPal.Me

Go to paypal.me/Wildling0720 and type in the amount. Since it’s PayPal, it's easy and secure. Don’t have a PayPal account? No worries.

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:25 PM

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Unlimited power ? 😄

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I hope someone sends you some in the weirdest money format which exists 😄

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 1:27 PM

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$

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And that shit from the UK

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😄

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 1:27 PM

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NOK 4 lyfe

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£¢€¥$

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aRoo_ThrowMoney

past idol Aug 22, 2019, 1:29 PM

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😄

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i will send more just to send some Sierra Leonean Leone 😄

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 1:29 PM

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https://open.spotify.com/album/61k1kHbsP6XABaJGqvCLeX?si=wv4qRaW-R-WEdTelRUdeEQ

Spotify

Lullabies in a Car Crash

Lullabies in a Car Crash, an album by Bjørn Riis on Spotify

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 1:30 PM

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Just arrived 😀

📎 JPEG_20190822_142947.jpg

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:31 PM

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@strange vapor hah, that was fast indeed

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is the facepalm guy an accessory?

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 1:31 PM

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It's Picard!

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 1:31 PM

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Amazon Prime same day express? 😄

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:31 PM

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a what ? 😄

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 1:31 PM

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Ordered yesterday evening from The Pi Hut

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 1:31 PM

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Captain Jean Luc Picard, of the USS enterprise 🎵

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:31 PM

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Oh that is nice

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Could be my happy future someday just without the pickard thingy 😄

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Oh yes

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Half my team bought the Picard bust when it appeared on sale on Think Geek.

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:32 PM

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I see common knowledge @midnight adder Visudo

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What is this music @clear ferry ?

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 1:33 PM

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I was asked if I wanted to manage a team a few years ago, I declined,I hate people MadPatrick

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 1:33 PM

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Perfect for manager

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:34 PM

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Hehe

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Textbook

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All managers in KFC technically

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I encountered

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 1:35 PM

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I've only eaten at KFC once in my life, it was 14 years ago in London if memory serves right

midnight adder Aug 22, 2019, 1:36 PM

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I ate to many time as it was freeish

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😄

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Not too many since

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What food do you prefer @boreal pewter @clear ferry @strange vapor and others? 😄

boreal pewter Aug 22, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Sushi but I get to expect more and more so options get less and less

strange vapor Aug 22, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Edible food!! After that I'm open to trying anything!

clear ferry Aug 22, 2019, 1:38 PM

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I prefer Asian dishes, flavourful and spicy