😂
#the-water-cooler
clever mortar
That's really a #330944238910963714 question 😉 (see the channel topic)
torpid spire
Oopss
unkempt umbra
quick question...
templating json/? how?
I tried this:
{
"rgb_color": [
{{ states("sensor.random_r") }},
{{ states("sensor.random_g") }},
{{ states("sensor.random_b") }}
],
"entity_id": "light.002007915ccf7f4991de"
}
unkempt umbra
sorry
clever mortar
Please take the time to read the topics
hearty depot
https://i.imgur.com/ziSxQGm.png
lol? on firefox?
apperently one of my addons is for chrome - intressting that that's working
upper tinsel
I swear... who ever designed the smartthings arrival sensors should be banned from designing anything ever again.
storm summit
heh. I can think of a lot of things people should be banned from.
clever mortar
Like posting Solved it to a question, without posting what they did 😛
upper tinsel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyS992qdUbg
banned from the forums!
hearty depot
midnight adder
just ordered a xiaomi smart scale 2 and a xiaomi mi bit 4
time to get healthy or something
with the power of smart products
say, does hass actually support the smart scale
apparently, somewhat https://github.com/lolouk44/xiaomi_mi_scale#setup
clear ferry
Btw, for those who hasn't seen the new windows terminal https://github.com/microsoft/terminal
Pre Home Assistant way of turning lights off... - https://v.redd.it/nipclws9dnf31
midnight adder
i've been using the win terminal for quite a while now both at home and at work
it's pretty good though the settings def need some work
vestal reef
Is there some big internet outage ? can't seem to reach half of the internet .. 😒
twitter not working, aliexpress not loading right, ...
facebook too...
clever mortar
Working fine here, it's just you/your ISP/your country 😛
vestal reef
hmm, seems to be a chrome thing.. just tried twitter in incognito mode and it loads fine ...
weird
distant merlin
Hello everyone im new here 🤚🏼
vestal reef
hey @distant merlin 😉
distant merlin
Hi
clever mortar
Welcome to the money pit
vestal reef
😂
distant merlin
Hahah
hard basin
I'm trying to build a new component, can someone point me to a article somewhere how to do this?
@shy notch I think I need you 😄
clever mortar
Does nobody ever take a moment to read the channel topic 🙄
https://developers.home-assistant.io @hard basin
hard basin
Yeah I did. And I took time. Or is that the same answer....
clever mortar
And the developer channels
Channel topic: For chat around things that aren't Home Assistant related...
hard basin
Yes mister Tinkerer, but I don't see the specific's I need, I was hoping that there was kinda like a step-to-step take-me-by-the-hand-for-I'm-an-utter-noob something.
clever mortar
Right, but, wrong channel 😉
hard basin
Well and I did honestly read the topic, but you are right, thats not the right channel to ask :-p
clever mortar
This is for chat about NOT HA
hard basin
So, what kinda car you drive?
clever mortar
#developers would be where you want to be
One that has lights, buttons, and wheels
Oh, and a manual explaining how all of that works 😛
midnight adder
hey anyone know if it's possible to hook up speakers and mic from a different machine to my hass install
clever mortar
torn horizon
Does anyone uses adb with a xiaomi mibox ?
boreal pewter
No but I think for the basic connection and control there is no difference. Android is Android. But if you don't get access to any kind of "Enable Developer Mode" then you're most likely unable to.
clear ferry
If we were to host a HA user group, the abbreviation would be HAUG which in Norwegian is "a pile" which sounds like a good name for it
Let's do it @light trout
torn horizon
It's different as there is not debug over tcpip mod 😄
boreal pewter
Well without any access to developer options you can't send command and read system info. Just like admin rights on a server
clear ferry
I don't think they sell the Jetta here anymore
light trout
Github event webhooks are cool 😄
clear ferry
Think it was phased out in the 2000s
The Jetta appears to be a mostly US car these days
Since they are produced in Mexico
valid halo
Thanks Mexico ❤
clear ferry
The Passat / Passat CC is probably the relevant counterpart here
Or the Audi A5 mayhaps
low harness
Of course! Thanks for clearing that up @clear ferry . I always thought Bryllupsdag på Troldhaugen was Wedding day at the Trolls Meadow, but Trolls Hill makes so much more sense.
low harness
Great composer
clear ferry
Let's do a HAUG at @low harness place 🎉
low harness
You’re welcome. I’ll teach you what a real lunch is.
clear ferry
Smorgasbord 
hearty depot
You know that we ALL will come? @low harness
dull chasm
yep on my way now ...free food
clear ferry
@dull chasm I suspect Scandinavian food will be very bland to you
dull chasm
@clear ferry really that sucks
i thought @low harness said he would show us some good lunch
clear ferry
He'll make you eat surströmming for sure
dull chasm
wtf is that
light trout
Something you will not willingly touch with a 10ft rubber pole
clear ferry
@dull chasm https://youtu.be/_haw_YDC_zo
dull chasm
yea i pass
low harness
Oh that’s a good idea. You’ll have to wait until october, though.
late gate
did I hear food?
valid halo
Good news everyone
my HA instance is still running
even after my neglect
good work Rpi
gives RasPi a pat on the head
My Ring Doorbell has been dead for a week
thanks HA
❤
cobalt anchor
I’m getting ready to upgrade my HA hardware to a Pi4. Any reason I might need more than 1GB RAM?
clever mortar
Mountain of add-ons?
upper tinsel
Does that apply to Hassbian as well? 
light trout
No~That issue is for HassOS, if Hassbian have the same issue I'm not sure of.
valid halo
Gan?
upper tinsel
gallium nitride, smaller circuits than just silicon
oops, wrong chemical
https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/06/21/gallium-nitride-chargers-what-are-they-and-why-theyre-great is a pretty good read about them
clear ferry
Mmm awake baby and 60 minutes on Plex 
hushed basalt
I'll be happy when you can buy chargers with fold out power prongs for AU
Probably never happen though. Legal ones at leasy
There's probably some code that says the plugs/sockets have to have the stupid giant shround around it
tough igloo
And what’s with Aussie plugs having ‘wings’ on them? I have to buy extra wide spaced power boards
clear ferry
Aussies will never understand terrible plugs until they've been in Europe 😛
Adaptors build out 10 cm and more
clear ferry
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
light trout
Twitter
boreal pewter
Who was using Unifi?
hushed basalt
UK plugs are pretty dope
Low profile, right angle design
Solid pins
I wish we inherited that from the empire
Instead we just get the Queen on our money and bayonet bulbs
The fuse in every plug thing is a bit silly though
valid halo
I remember some dude did a whole video on "UK plugs are amazing"
left ocean
I saw your complaint about plugs, Have you ever seen the ones they use in the Philippines?
boreal pewter
Honestly plugs are just a money making system.
And if we would choose the plug by highest amounts of users in regard to where people mostly visit for holidays then EU would win
Anyway anyone around for Unifi?
hearty depot
Well I use an AP and an er-x @boreal pewter
(the absulute cheapest setup out there afaik, well I could have saved some bucks ditching the SPF port - but ll be handy in the future maybe)
boreal pewter
Using the "cheapest" setup you most likely haven't paid 200 bucks for a stupid CloudKey and rather used the UNMS Install Script which raises the docker containers?
hearty depot
nope - only used UNMS & the controler a little
but all the setup just via the UI/terminal
boreal pewter
I'm testing for my company to use UNMS in CentOS VM instead of the current Unifi Network Controller in Windows VM Setup. I don't understand the differences between Unifi Network Controller, UCRM and UNMS.
But for now the script is not finishing the install
Gonna test in a new fresh VM
hushed basalt
I'd rather have a bulky plug that can have a bedside table pushed up against it
Than our medium size straight plugs that need about 10 inches of clearance from the wall to furniture
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This does not bring joy
ocean mirage
thats it I am moving to the UK
boreal pewter
hushed basalt
We also had a bad habit of putting power sockets on the skirting
Literally in line with the floor
boreal pewter
boreal pewter
There is like 1mm space 😄
clear ferry
I wonder if any led bars from AliExpress are good, I don't care if they output an illegal light, but if they actually give out good light for me, anybody ever tried any?
clever mortar
Not a bar, but I have one of the RGB-CCT LED tapes, and it's "ok"
Plenty bright, but all the LEDs are slightly different in colour, which annoys my OCD
clear ferry
Ha, which one is it you ordered?
clever mortar
Let me dig through my order history
I'd bought https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32880349391.html, but I'm looking at trying https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32863309450.html next
clear ferry
Oh, I was thinking for my car 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
clever mortar
So buy the 12V ones 😛
clear ferry
Don't think those will throw the light 600m or more 😞
clever mortar
For that you need a catapult 😛
clever mortar
Proper offroading stuff then
clear ferry
Have you seen the size of a moose crossing the road in the winter? 😛
clever mortar
I've seen what happens to cars that assume they can hit them
clear ferry
😂
hushed basalt
We have some $8000 leds at work
Maybe closer to $9000-$10000 actually
Would they be suitable?
clear ferry
Yes, just send them to me and send the bill to @ocean mirage
unkempt umbra
time to lounge
clear ferry
Richard cheese and lounge against the machine?
unkempt umbra
heheh.
hushed basalt
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1251121-REG/arri_l0_0008989_skypanel_s60_c_led_softlight.html
Goes for about $200-$300/day
dark swallow
And I think my sd card finally faile... again
clever mortar
That's ok, you've got backups... hopefully 😛
hushed basalt
@clever mortar my backup my mind taps head
dark swallow
Yeah auto backups got me covered thinking of switching to a usb drive
orchid rose
atxbyea just preparing for the nordic winter. We won't see the sun for 6 months after all
hushed basalt
What are you running on your pi. Hass.io?
x86 4 lyfe. Bare metal docker is king! Long live containers. All hail the compose!
But seriously though I gave up on running rpis in my rack
I use them as edge devices now.
dark swallow
I know the sd card you are using matters and A2 cards work better but does it matter for usb drives? or just size and speed of the drive?
clear ferry
SD cards 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎
clever mortar
Meh, with a little lack of effort you can easily get 2 years out of one
Of course, if you buy cheap trash, or abuse them...
clear ferry
I have gotten 8 years so far out of my usb boot, and my desktop HDD is 14 years 😛
clever mortar
Yeah, I won't miss it when I finally relocate HA
dark swallow
Yeah I think I just put my sd cards through too much abuse
I eventually plan to migrate ha over to and old mac mini I have laying around
unkempt umbra
my HA lives in docker, on my QNAP NAS
tawny pebble
hey guys, i had bad luck with "smart" plugs. Can I still use them on HA without tasmota? If so, how?
clever mortar
🤷
There's a massive, MASSIVE, range of things labelled "smart"
It's like asking if that car will do 400 miles between refuelling...
tawny pebble
Didn't get what you mean :/ it is this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32897620233.html
clever mortar
#diy-archived would be able to help you. If it has a known API then yes. Otherwise you'd need to flash them with Tasmota/ESPHome or similar
low harness
@tawny pebble what he means is that your question is like saying "Hey, I got a round lightbulb that isn't working. Anyone know what's wrong?"
clever mortar
But hey, I'm all for attempting mind reading again...
tawny pebble
Uhmmm anyway, it can't be flashed. I opened it already but it's really locked. Was scrolling thru the comments on aliexpress page and a guy wrote down this thing. It is just not possible 😐 Asked already on the diy and also in tasmota group (people there know this stuff too even tho they say no eheh)
So, in general, since i do not know HA so deep, i was wondering if there is a way to connect these plugs (any plug) to HA if not by mqtt thanks to tasmota.
there's IFTTT but no. No thanks :/ so yeah that's it. I just wasted 💰 ): Not gonna connect to Alexa too. I won't use them
odd hill
oi. big update completed on my custom google_maps device_tracker component.
for anyone using it, give it a go and drop me a dm with feedback.
clever mortar
#609399695466430465 @odd hill 😉
odd hill
WHERE WE"RE GOING, WE DON"T NEED ROADS...fine.
clever mortar
That only counts if you have a Mr Fusion
clear ferry
@tawny pebble they are tuya, so you can control them through the tuya smart life component in HA
Which is a cloud based service
tawny pebble
@clear ferry this is a very good answer! I was already preparing them for selling
But still, it requires a account to be created sooo not sure of keeping them. if no one takes them i'll continue from here
thanks, as always!
midnight adder
I started working on a new theme, already came out better than I was expecting in a short time, still needs tweaking.
late gate
@tawny pebble Dont buy those fibaro clones (neo or what they are called), They do not confirm for EC and after having 10 that all failed cause of heat (bought different places) I would never use them again
tawny pebble
@late gate really all of them 😐 eh, still, there are things i'd love to monitor and these plugs come handy. how did you fix?
late gate
10 of 10 was too warm yes. I checked stuff with my IR camera once and unplugged all Fibaro Clones right away
100+ degrees
at 2-300W load
vagrant sorrel
New feature is awesome!
homeassistantcast
clever mortar
I'm really looking forward to the service that allows us to cast from HA 😃
That's the point my various Google displays suddenly get a whole new life
vagrant sorrel
Metoo
clever mortar
Maybe by that point I'll have had enough time to be able to upgrade HA 🤣
late gate
@clever mortar shouldnt you be a bleeding edge guy? :p
clever mortar
My test box is
My production box... there's the WAF factor, plus also the fun that comes from Z-Wave and PyOZW causing HA to randomly core dump on startup
And a few months of too much going on
late gate
yeah I see that - my WAF is right now -1000%
clever mortar
My primary focus is on not breaking the family's experience - if it's not solid and reliable, it frustrates them
late gate
I guess with v 1 stability can start be a bit more reliable
clever mortar
Well, for me stable will come from separating Z-Wave from HA
clever mortar
That's been (mostly) solid for me
I think I need a firmware upgrade on the stick though
late gate
oh. my thermostats was not happy with that
I see a lot of work is done one 1.6 ozw python now
lets hope they will kick it the rest of the way
clever mortar
Yeah. I don't really care if they move to that or get Zwave2MQTT working with it really
late gate
I dont care eather, but both is on the old version so 1.6 is needed
or a whole new library
im not impressed by ozw
platforms like homeseer, do they buy licenses or something for zwave products?
clever mortar
Or, you know, have paid developers 😉
late gate
got a point there
I said it before. I have no issues paying for a HA branded zwave/zigbee hub with proper support up to 3-500USD
Also If I was a dictator I would make it law nobody could make hardware on 2,4ghz anymore - yes logitech harmony hub Im looking at you
unreal orbit
No more bluetooth, low level wifi, zigbee, or microwave ovens
late gate
rather keep that old stuff spamming on 2,4. New stuff should support a wider range imho. with 2,4 im thinking ofc about wifi, not zigbee, microwaves etc. The world would be a better place if 1. routers shut down the 2,4 if no clients requets it 2. people stop putting up 30-40db antennas etc
or idiots who put up esp-s that spam 2,4ghz ap points. A guy in the unify discord does this and he is acutally proud of it
unreal orbit
Pretty sure that's illegal, at least here in the US
late gate
the ap spamming? yes it is, but you know script kiddies. esp with this "jammer" selles preloaded on ebay
low harness
@midnight adder Did you try this? https://github.com/thomasloven/lovelace-theme-maker
midnight adder
@low harness No, but looks awesome. I was pretty surprised how difficult working on themes was... this looks like a great solution, I will try it out this afternoon, thanks for the tip!
modest hollow
🎉Amazon Echo Show 5 support Home Assistant!🎉
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/amazon-echo-show-5-support-home-assistant/131435
unkempt umbra
Nifty ThomasLoven
valid halo
First Day of work done
wheee
spent it manually copying files from pc 1 to ext HDD and then those files to PC 2
hushed basalt
New job? @valid halo
valid halo
I copy and paste files onto an Ext HDD and then copy and paste from that onto a computer
I am a tech worker drone
please insert laptop
hushed basalt
🤔
hushed basalt
You could just automate that then goof off
valid halo
I dont know how to automate it. So I'm doing it manually.
While hating the fact that windows 7 has shit vision accesibility options compared to 10
hushed basalt
Indeed
valid halo
Need to figure out a quick way to turn on and off those features
hushed basalt
Why are the files being copied
valid halo
We're migrating people from win 7 laptops to win 10 laptops
They're remote workers. So we copy files from laptop A to laptop B
Then we ship Laptop B to them
and I dunno what happesn to Laptop A
valid halo
Not really
we do like 1 at a time
because we're not using a program
we just manually C+P
why?
No idea
hushed basalt
Lol
Even if you were copy and pasting you could still do multiple at the same time
But 🤷
If it was me I'd probably just figure out a bat script for both laptops. Script on the donor laptop sets a static ip on the ethernet of say 10.0.0.1, the new laptop gets set to 10.0.0.2.
And plug in a lan cable between them and have the old laptop copy everything you want to 10.0.0.2
But hey if you're getting paid haha
young sigil
If you don;t want to mess with scripts you can save settings using this https://freefilesync.org/ I use it for off site backups. Plug in external drive, files get copied.
clear ferry
@valid halo after working as a sysadmin for years (15years ago), local files copying seems strange, we had no local files back then and any user could use any machine and still reach their files, are you working in 1993? 😂
1⃣ 9⃣ 9⃣ 3⃣
valid halo
I dunno man. I'll ask my buddy I'm working with why we're doing it by hand. Maybe he just wants to stretch out his time.
clear ferry
Yeah, I don't see any logical reasons in these cloud days to do that, when we did it with "my briefcase" in the early to mid 00's 😂
hushed basalt
What is cloud
Cloud is a far away thing in obsrved through a very long narrow tube called vdsl2
Or adsl2 🤢
hushed basalt
Yes. That is what I mean
Anything over 12mbps is just for piraters and kids to watch netflix according to our government
clear ferry
I am both of those
hushed basalt
A frivious luxury we can't afford and don't need
Nekminnit they spend $60-$160 billion on the network depending on how you count it
For vdsl2 and fixed wireless
clear ferry
Lol
hushed basalt
No connection that their friends are chairmen of companies winning juicy contracts
clear ferry
I think the last thing I heard is that 70% of the population can have 50Mbit or above here now
hushed basalt
Supplying pit and pipe, decreipit copper network leasing, ntus, node infrastructure, installation contracts
I have 80mbit on vdsl at home
clear ferry
We stopped building copper networks decades ago
hushed basalt
But that's the best I can get. And will just get worse with more cross talk and copper neglect
clear ferry
Actually I know a town that still uses the copper the Nazis left after occupation for most of the city telephone lines
hushed basalt
I'll put in fibre in my home when I have my house. At least between my desk and my rack
Maybe the Nazis thought fttp could wait until after the war
clear ferry
They built most if the railways and motorways in Norway too
They were very effective within a few years
hushed basalt
Our roads are decent ish
Our rails get ripped out though
Why haul cargo with a train when you could flood the network with 200 road trains instead!
light trout
If we would have kept them a few more years we probably would have railways all the way up North
hearty depot
@clear ferry what you pay for your line?
There is missing 20Mbs because I run this on wlan just now - but I have to pay 50 buck for this
When I would take 20 Mbps Down I would only get the half upload
boreal pewter
I don't even want to think about who the provider is
hearty depot
I can tell ya ;) but maybe you get nightmares
light trout
For a 300/300 line he probably pay around 40-50$
hearty depot
A1... A one?
Maybe the same global scale company 😱
Where the heck is my thinfoilheat?
God deam it.... I would like a line like this too :(
hearty depot
[ 😡 ]²
boreal pewter
Well germany is pretty bad. Choosing a good provider is even pretty important. And then the difference between cable and DSL... so if you don't want cable and you're not in the luck to have a good local provider like Netcologne you end up with Telekom and that is easily 50€+ for just the same amount of Mbit
hushed basalt
I love how many emails you get when you buy something off amazon
Your item is comfirmed.
Your item has been shipped.
Your item is on the way.
Your item is arriving today.
Your item has been delivered.
Review your item.
clear ferry
@hearty depot 599NOK per month
thorny falcon
hot its possible to add adapters integrations for devices with rest apis?
python scripts?
clear ferry
@thorny falcon #330944238910963714 would be the right channel probably 
icy cosmos
Hello,
I'm looking into different home automation systems. And the 2 best/ biggest are OpenHAB and Home Assistant.
Are there people here who have used both?
What are the differences? Or why did you eventually choose for HA instead of OpenHAB?
clear ferry
I tried openhab first, didn't like how it worked at all, then tried HA and met the community, and I was sold
hearty depot
🤦 thats about 10% more then I pay
get your shit togeter austria 🤣
clever mortar
Best particularly is meaningless - it's personal choice
Biggest too is largely irrelevant. If it does everything you want, who cares if something else does a million things you'll never use 😉
Personally, for the open source one, I'd suggest you download and install each and play with them for a couple of weeks. See which one suits you better.
Clearly Home Assistant is the best... at least according to those of us who love it 😛
hearty depot
also used IO broker and afterwards open hab - never got to a decent working state
icy cosmos
Thanks for the answers
hearty depot
go to the open hab disccord and they ll probably say the same as we do
icy cosmos
I will try them both 😃
clever mortar
I know folks who've gone HA -> OH and loved it. I know folks who've gone OH -> HA and loved it.
I know folks who've tried both and then gone with a commercial solution...
hearty depot
the start is the hardest part 😛
icy cosmos
From what I could find: OpenHAB is older and more mature. But those articles are written 1-2Y ago. Did it change now?
clever mortar
Older != better
Newer != better
Home Assistant is more actively developed
OpenHAB is more stable
icy cosmos
True
clever mortar
For some people, stability wins. For some people, new features wins.
icy cosmos
But you never had any problems with stability?
hearty depot
With newer updates (foring)API's or integrations are changing 🤷
well you dont have to update
clever mortar
Some, but not while running
Upgrade time is interesting if you're not reading the release notes, or if you're hit by a bug that nobody else found
Z-Wave can be painful for some folks (like me) - there's an edge case with the underlying Z-Wave library that causes random crashes, but only at startup (related to corrupting the cache file, so you can delete the cache and it'll be fine)
hearty depot
Why the hell HA doesnt start.. ok lets check the logs.. mhmm.. wrong setup on component xy.... but it worked before....
ok letz check zhe dockz!
clear ferry
I always blame @light trout anyway 🤷
clever mortar
That's a blast from the past
valid halo
Not Reading The Documentation: What do those Developers know anyways?
Six Hours to Change One Setting: The Documentation Writers last laugh
boreal pewter
I can't see there anything
wintry crow
atxbyea: Get down off that hill at once..!
clear ferry
I like being on top 
valid halo
Sitting in the lobby. Waiting on someone letting me in =/
hushed basalt
Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin
clear ferry
dark imp
hi. my lovelace badge for life360 is saying entity not found.,
what is the syntax to put after the life360 in badges?
in customisation my entity is this "life360 liberty"
badges:
- life360 ??
i cant get it to work
the entitiy is reporting data correctly but cant get it on the badge working
any help cheers friends
low harness
"life360" is not a proper entity id
light trout
That 👆 and #frontend-archived would be the correct channel
low harness
is it perhaps device_tracker.life360?
dark imp
sorry wrong channel. i read that device_tracker is not needed. but i tried it thanks
clear ferry
Just look in states and find the correct entity
dark imp
thankyou.
if i had a temp sensor id say its bloody cold . but im in australia so maybe not as cold as some
clever mortar
So... about 25C then 😛
dark imp
11c at 11pm. at the moment getting about 6 through the night !
quartz ether
Thats still warm.
I walk around at nights outside for my job. It is a warm winter think the lowest we have had is 1c and last year was like -3c
That is NZ
clear ferry
I'll raise you my +35 in summer and -35 in winter 
dark imp
i see your +35 summer but you got me on winter ! does it make beer drinking problamatic?
quartz ether
We get 0 snow.... The worst part about it I think. Though I dont think my job would be any good if it was that cold and snowing.
clever mortar
11c is still t-shirt and shorts weather
clear ferry
I do t-shirt down to -15, but that is me 
clever mortar
Sounds like my son...
clear ferry
I stop shorts at 0
clever mortar
Mind you, that was me when I was younger... It's only snowing, I'll be fine without a jacket
clear ferry
I've been like this since I was born, and my daughter appears to be the same so far 
We are made for winter
clever mortar
😄
unkempt umbra
Good morning, all! (or whatever time you're in)
quartz ether
1.55am... technically morning though I should be saying goodnight soon
hearty depot
4pm already? what the hell
unkempt umbra
Time keeps on slipping, into the future... 🎸
clear ferry
I'm even more out of the time loop as I only work 50% and it throws my whole schedule off
late gate
I think I got a rasberry pi hoarding problem, just got 5 of the pi4 4gb and bought some extreme sd cards (140 nok so cheap enough)
clever mortar
🤣
boreal pewter
Yeah I would have rather built a server for that
late gate
nice, specs?
clear ferry
Just a R520 for my freenas setup
boreal pewter
I once checked the price for the RAM when I was planning to build my Deskmini but I still had to buy a new car. It was 80€ then. And now, every day checking, it is always 90+. And therefor I'm not willing to buy it 😦
late gate
oh, xenon?
late gate
ah, isnt that a 100w power hog?
clear ferry
Don't care about power usage🤷
quartz ether
@clear ferry you can do so much better for cheaper than a r250
late gate
hehe, whats your power bill?
clear ferry
For less than $210 with shipping from the us to Norway @quartz ether ? 😂
quartz ether
Thought you said $2000
clear ferry
@late gate only 12g, but I have 400g laying around
late gate
more is better hehe
clear ferry
@quartz ether local currency 😂
late gate
does the dell suffer from the same problem as the HP G7 on the raid controller?
quartz ether
clear ferry
@late gate used 37000kwh last year
late gate
about same as here
clear ferry
@quartz ether looked at 24bay chassis from China, but shipping was horrible
But drop shipping from the us to Norway is affordable
quartz ether
late gate
you have a full rack of computers?
boreal pewter
@clear ferry is oldschool 😛
clear ferry
I have a full rack of.. stuff 😛
quartz ether
Lol... same haha.
late gate
if you need UPS you can get a free APC 5000
quartz ether
?? how
late gate
ah, I meant atx. Im downsizing away from rack computers. Got a load of UPS
quartz ether
Haha
amber bramble
its about $20 cheaper on ebay right now direct from rosewill
late gate
building a new power bank that support micro grid (solar + battery + generator)
clear ferry
late gate
nerd cave hehe
clear ferry
I do need a ups though 
clear ferry
That is enough for most people 😂
clear ferry
If you throw them I'll pick em up for sure, if they charge 😛
late gate
I can check them when I get the motivation :p
clear ferry
I'll even leave a 24 pack of beer for your trouble 😛
late gate
I will let u know when I moved them to the garage and tested them
hearty depot
Ooohhh so good
unkempt umbra
hahaha
unkempt umbra
anyone know what sensors the ecobee presents HA?
clever mortar
#330944238910963714 would be where to ask that @unkempt umbra 😉
unkempt umbra
ok. will ask there.
low harness
Other good ones are alias ffs=”sudo !!” and alias avadakedavra=”kill -9”
hearty depot
added 🤣
pale panther
I am organising some kind of meetups in Uden (the netherlands) and would like like to contact people from the netherlands who can talk enthousiastic about HA and do a presentation.
clear ferry
@junior forge might be interested?
clear ferry
clever mortar
Meanwhile in Scotland...
unreal orbit
Alright, I got the laugh but I'll delete it because gifs are annoying
clever mortar
Meh, it's #the-water-cooler - and it was funny 😄
clear ferry
It's #the-water-cooler , embrace it @unreal orbit ❤
unkempt umbra
well, almost time to go tinker
upper tinsel
Scotland sounds like New England during autumn
hasty bane
Whats the difference between homeassistant docker version and hassio?
boreal pewter
Mostly people unable to read using #330990055533576204 rather annoy people in #449717345808547842 with issues
But beside that in Docker you do everything yourself, and I think in hassio you have a few "addons" which are docker containers theirselves too and you can just spin them up with a mouse click
hasty bane
@boreal pewter what I meant is there an obvious reason to use hassio over docker?
boreal pewter
hassio = noob and lazy
docker = self-administrating
hasty bane
cool.. thx
boreal pewter
So far I know
Everything that is not available as hassio addon has then still to be spun up by yourself just like with pure docker
hasty bane
as I have a Synology NAS I'm going pure docker
clever mortar
Not far off. Hass.io is aimed at those who want an appliance like experience. Everything else is for those who want more involvement/control
(rather than calling Hass.io users noobs, though lazy does seem like a good fit 😛 )
boreal pewter
Well IMO if you want to do hosting you have to learn hosting
Nothing is free of effort
clever mortar
I'm not disagree with that 😉
I've always been of the view that the closer you get to the workings, the more you learn. The more insulated you are, the less you learn.
This may explain why I've broken so many things over the years 🤔
boreal pewter
Well I've been self-learning Administration for years but doing LPIC 2 years ago was whole different area
Learning the OS more indepth
While people usually only install the OS, Docker, spin up container and then tell "oh wasn't that difficult" and having a fully unsecured server around
clear ferry
Tinkerer is the reincarnation of Kali, the destroyer and creator 😛
clever mortar
Hang on
I'm supposed to create?
Damn...
I tend to channel a chaotic version of Shiva more than Kali...
clever mortar
I think I've probably touched all 9 alignments at various times, sometimes even on the same day 😛
clever mortar
It's more fun with a little randomness
clear ferry
My wife says I have a random personality, does that count? 🤷
clever mortar
🤣
ocean mirage
dank mode
clear ferry
One metric ton of concrete
hearty depot
What does the yellow sing says? I spot the german word billige (cheap)
light trout
Something like that
low harness
It's Byggmax. Danish cheap construction materials.
clear ferry
Has anyone done a inquiry into the gender distribution of HA users? Considering the high WAF needed to successfully implement HA one could assume female implementation is never good enough, while the implementation among single males might be higher
This sounds like a master's thesis
unreal orbit
The drawbacks of building a platform based on user privacy means those kind of metrics are not available without giving some sort of voluntary survey
clear ferry
An idea for the #creator-connection maybe
For an anonymous survey
With gender and number of household members
unreal orbit
I know there are a handful of women here, but I think it is predominantly men spinning up instances
clear ferry
I love seeing metrics and being positively surprised
unreal orbit
Me too, I bet there are more secret women than we think
clear ferry
Like my wife doing cyber and information security studies, actually 11% female
That was twice of what I expected
unreal orbit
It is an interesting topic to think about. The question of why the spread is so huge is actually really complicated
boreal pewter
We are 100% male OPS, 1 Female as Java dev and 1 female as Scrum Master
As well as the only person doing marketing is a woman too
orchid rose
It's a massive waste of potential that we have so few women in tech
warped moss
One can spend a lot of time screwing with annoying and confusing error messages when they grab the wrong certificate thinking it's the CA certificate.
clear ferry
I've worked in it for 15 years and I can count on three hands the number of female techs I've met 🤷
orchid rose
having three hands does help in IT though I suppose
I keep hearing the statement that 5G will revolutionize IoT. True or false?
unreal orbit
5G? Probably not. 5Ghz enabled devices? That will make a lot of things better for wifi devices
clever mortar
I think 5G is the first that actually caters for the needs of IoT properly, so maybe and if implemented correctly
orchid rose
To me it sounds like a weird thing to market when it comes to 5G. I can see the low latency working in some situation, but mostly IoT is not really latency dependent, so is there something else it offers that I'm missing?
tough vault
I just want to say that casting to the Google Home Hub is amazing. Thanks to the people who busted that out.
clever mortar
The other thing from memory is that it supports small/short transmissions without a mountain of chat
hushed basalt
@clear ferry i was speaking to a female devops engineer on Tuesday
I think she's a bit annoyed by some of the forced push for women in tech
clear ferry
I can imagine, they are shouting for it here in norway
hushed basalt
I think she didn't go into much detail, but she called her opinions not politically correct
clear ferry
remember when I started my current job, I have a collegue who is female and has worked in the biz since the 80s, she told me to not treat her differently, in 2007! yes to more diversity
hushed basalt
From my impression at meetups and conferences etc, no guys are standing at the top of the treehouse saying 'no girls allowed'
There's just not that many skilled applicants
clear ferry
I know a few, but most of them are retiring the next few year, or dying, whichever comes first 🤣
hushed basalt
You could say that about a lot of people in general with certain skills
I'm sure 90% of the telco techs with legacy knowledge are either dead, redundant or retired
9 women can have a baby in one month right!
clear ferry
Remember seeing a mail about someone asking for some one with OpenVMS skills a few year back
the reply was "have you checked the graveyard?"
And now I'm the only one installing those boxes, does that mean I'm going to die ?
hushed basalt
It means you should take a long holiday then ask for a raise when they know how much they need you
clear ferry
already did that once this year, plan on doing it again in september 🤣
clear ferry
If I only did, then I would be set for life 🤣
they recently brought a pensioner out of pension in norway to fix some ibm mainframes
hearty depot
https://cutiepi.io/
A pi tablet 🤔 could be another nice display. Just can't find a pricetag
light trout
clever mortar
We'll spend what we need to, which may include on sports cars and nights out, that's not a problem is it?
light trout
Sounds reasonable
maiden smelt
Got myself some sonoff minis 😂😂 can finally automate my home fully
clever mortar
"Some"
unkempt umbra
good morning, automators
unreal orbit
Jesus. I hope you have a commercial grade wifi router
hearty depot
muchsad.jpg - chiao smart thermostat tado°
you ll go back to your producer
I realy dont get their price politic - I rented that thing 3 years ago for like 70€ per year.
not too good, not too bad - just ok.
you can go from renting to buying - you ll get discount on that
but... when you do such thing - dont sell your newer version of that thing on amazon for 90€ (buying my old one would cost me 170€ 🤦 )
so instead of getting me a decent price I just send it back where it most certenly ll get thrown away, because old hardware 🤷
unreal orbit
Don't rent hardware? 🤷
boreal pewter
Well it's now the second time I rent a FritzBox for 2 years, about 80 bucks for the whole time. And since I was working at private customers and had found like 1295 defect routers I rather rent for less than the half price of a new one
That would be like 5 years of rental for the price of owning one, just that my guarantee doesn't end after 2 years
jaunty summit
why do you use fritzbox? because of the DSL/ADSL/cable capabilities?
boreal pewter
As a generic all in one for my VDSL2
hearty depot
Only point for a Fritzbox are the DECT capabilities
hearty depot
What the young guys using? Dont forget that germany is a little... special..
hearty depot
btw - how the hell did you managed your vlans? Radius?
junior forge
nope, just manually configured and assigned to specific ports (both tagged and untagged)
bit oldschool, but not a company here 😉
hearty depot
eeh is falling away after I dont want to get extra AP's only for IoT/NoT stuff
I just try my luck with firewall routes and IP ranges on my sweet little ER-x
warped moss
Guh. Every time I try something new with automation it's one step forward, two steps back. Been trying to get rid of smartthings and use HA for about a year and a half. Latest attempt has seen me move zwave to zwave2mqtt and attempt to use zigbee2mqtt along with it. Architecture looked sound. Then I discovered that zigbee2mqtt doesn't work with the HUSBZB zigbee adpater. You have to use the CC2531. Sometimes you just have to laugh at fate because it's sense of humor is morbid.
hushed basalt
I recommend getting something more powerful than the cc2531 though
Or get a router straight off the bat
The cc2531 is very very weak
hushed basalt
I have an ikea bulb right next to mine acting as a router :D
gusty relic
Don't know if anyone already seen it but just in case: https://twitter.com/Splatter_Shah/status/1143556723266994176
boreal pewter
My searches for standalone VDSL2 Modems result in a very least amount of devices
Only interesting is draytek vigor 165 and the reputation is not only good
boreal pewter
Well I have a Fritzbox and everyone is crying why I choose a FritzBox
Seems like alternatives are almost non-existent? 😄
I still have that box on rent for 1 1/2 years but I still tinker with a unifi setup and then I don't want to do some dirty hotfix with static IP router from the fritzbox through the security gateway
ocean mirage
never heard of it
clear ferry
I have only heard about Fritzbox here 😛
boreal pewter
ocean mirage
I hate the branding lol
boreal pewter
lol
Still from my searches there is only 1 product which I consider up to date for 2019 and near future and that is the vigor 165
That's sad since it kinda has a feature cut-down router as well and you have to google how to deactivate it
That's like there would only be 1 smartphone on the market wtf
boreal pewter
Germanistan
ocean mirage
ah I see
Here the modem/routers that ISPs often give out have good modems in them so I bought one of those and bridged it to m edgerouter
boreal pewter
I only want a cheap solution, so the small security gateway. ANd for that I would just need a modem standalone
I tho still have the fritzbox for 1 1/2 year actually
clear ferry
I have bridged router modems for the last 20 years 😛
ocean mirage
more is more
clear ferry
Never actually used a stock item I got from my ISP
ocean mirage
I wanted a standalone modem too but thats just because that makes most sense in my head
boreal pewter
I want to use the possibilities of Unifi fully and not deactivate some features and not work with static routes and such hotfixes
ocean mirage
but this bridged telstra modem and edgerouter/unifi AP is the most stable thing I've had
clear ferry
These days I just have a fiber termination point
That goes straight into my core switches
boreal pewter
However looks like I have no alternative
I created a shopping cart yesterday for all the things I still need, still almost 700€ + probably 120 for the vigor 165
https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/4b6b2022129ffc3d59e0ca19b08cba2269732838c997e2c4ab9
boreal pewter
loool I just found a forum where someone explains how to "reactivate" the pppoe-passthrough mode which was thrown out of the fritzOS firmware ages ago 🤦 😆
clear ferry
Pppoe, peasants 😛
ocean mirage
Ppppppppoe
compact flare
Hi, is there a special room where the users talk about KNX and HASS ? Or a specific room for notifications with services like telegram?
clear ferry
@compact flare knx would probably fit in #general-archived and telegram will fit nicely in #330944238910963714
compact flare
Thanks
clear ferry
Mmmm Peter Gabriel Live In Athens, worth checking out
hushed basalt
Cries in bridged vdsl2
I wish I had a raw ethernet port
Our fttp isn't raw fibre though. It's in a ntu with an ethernet rj45 out.
late gate
at least altibox support direct fiber termination without converter. I cant stand bridged ISP equipment
hushed basalt
Still better than this vdsl2 dumpster fire
On gel filled abused street infrastructure too
clear ferry
Lol VDSL, you are so 2011
late gate
@clear ferry Telenor still pushes it https://www.telenor.no/privat/internett/bredband/adsl-og-vdsl/ :p
clear ferry
Yeah, probably to very rural areas @late gate 😂
hushed basalt
Somehow running 128 services per strand to vdslams is worth a national infrastructure
Project
clear ferry
Like where my mother in law lives, it is 6km to the nearest telephone junction box, so she can't even get ADSL, but now they get 500Mbit fiber connection😂
hushed basalt
They've also structured the wholesale pricing so that ISPs have to massively oversubscribe their bandwidth
My mum is on fttp and her isp dropped down to 3Mbps during netflix viewing hours
clear ferry
Lol, that would be illegal here 😂
hushed basalt
It reminded me of ATV when it would get bad during certain parts of the day and weather
clear ferry
To advertise those speeds and not be able to deliver them that is
hushed basalt
Standard Evening Speed—plans using this label will deliver a minimum speed of 15Mbps during the busy period. This plan would support a typical usage profile of residential customers (e.g. streaming one high definition movie at the same time as web browsing on another device during the busy period)
clear ferry
Be grounds for compensation and termination
Different speeds at different hours sounds like something 
would love
ocean mirage
huh the way you talked I assumed you had good internet
ocean mirage
thats more like it
clear ferry
But how much do you pay for @tough igloo?
tough igloo
I have it bundled but I think 90 Aussie clams a month just for the Internet
clear ferry
No set / promised speed?
tough igloo
It’s the same price I was paying years ago for “ADSL 2”
Yes I pay for 100/50
I always check speeds but I’ve never had an issue
clear ferry
Then it is pretty close really
I pay 599 Norwegian crowns per month
98 AUD it seems
tough igloo
Yeah I’m really happy I got the old good NBN as opposed to the new NBN crap
Yeah that’s pretty good
I can pay a lot more for 250 down speeds but can’t be bothered
ocean mirage
Oh damn 250 is available now for houses? How much for ya
tough igloo
Let me check
clear ferry
We can get gigabit here
For 200aud roughly
1000/1000 that is
Not your lame Aussie non-synchronous speeds 😛
ocean mirage
I’d go that
tough igloo
$250 a month
ocean mirage
Oof
tough igloo
Yeah I don’t need it. But I want it 🤣
ocean mirage
It’d be useful
clear ferry
If memory serves right
ocean mirage
But I don’t got fiber anyway
clear ferry
We got the 250/50 on docsis I think, or was it a combined docsis fiber line 
tough igloo
It sucks. Everyone should have it
ocean mirage
Yep
clear ferry
Move to Norway 😛
And remember to vote for us in Eurovision, I always vote for Australia 😂
tough igloo
I remember when Norway won it
ocean mirage
Sure
clear ferry
laughs in Norway
late gate
I was thinking about 3d printing a case for a HA hub with zigbee, bt and zwave external antenna. Has anyone done the model before, plus was thinking to implement a digital RGB led strip into it to show status
clear ferry
dark swallow
Lol I never thought of that!
hushed basalt
My doorbell makes the google homes say there's someone at the door
tawny pebble
hi boys, i just noticed this xiaomi product: https://de.aliexpress.com/item/33054476688.html
anyone here who owns it?
clear ferry
No power monitoring I guess @tawny pebble
tawny pebble
@clear ferry my same thought :/
trim dragon
So, I really love the state history graphs, but in home assistant I feel like they are really limited and i have issues doing longer time frames. I am piping data to elasticsearch, but I can't seem to find a similar visiualization and my google foo is failing me. Any ideas how I can find a similar visualization?
clever mortar
Grafana?
trim dragon
yeah, I think theres a grafana one. Apparently called discrete
rapid musk
Any windows 10 gurus? I need a quick question answered
Completely not home assistant related, sorry
hushed basalt
Success!
Baby monitor audio detection notifications to my wife's apple watch
@rapid musk what's the question
ocean mirage
oh nice
clear ferry
@rapid musk then you are in the right channel 😛
clever mortar
Though whether there's anybody that can answer the question you didn't ask... 🤷
light trout
Alt+F4
clear ferry
I remember telling people who used mIRC to press alt F4 to open settings
They never found the settings
But it was fun to watch
clever mortar
Like the script kiddies who threaten to DoS you, so you tell them your IP is 127.0.0.1
clear ferry
😂
I actually had a ISDN connection while most had 28800 still, so I actually could hurt opposing players 😛
light trout
I think my discord have some issues 😂
clever mortar
That is one very active geek...
clear ferry
Looks like a fricking horror movie
One notification too far
1activegeek wants to know your location
we all PM down here
clear ferry
Sometimes I question the sanity of someone who made a movie
I was looking around for cthulhu movies
And one that popped up was call girl of cthulhu, Jesus that trailer was a mess
ocean mirage
I remember in Counter Strike: Source that F10 was bound to exit game by default, so obviously people used that one a lot when people asked for help
hushed basalt
~ kill
boreal pewter
Ordered the remaining things for my Deskmini build
Still below 500€ overall
And at work I already built the Unifi Network Controller Docker-Setup if that's coming somewhen 😛
glossy mortar
Well then. I'm late because the hassio supervisor got updated at 1am last night, and broke a bunch of stuff. This resulted in me getting a notification that my apartment door was unlocked. It wasn't, but HA didn't know that, because it couldn't resolve deconz' IP.
But I still had to waste time going back to check.
boreal pewter
lol how is that possible to be unable to resolv the IP?
The Docker DNS is always up to date actually
clever mortar
#330990055533576204 can help, but see the recent chat in #devs_supervisor-archived for some context
(basically, there's been changes that may come as a surprise to those that specify the DNS servers)
clear ferry
lol it's been a time since I've cleaned up in my main linux instance that I have migrated around for 10 years
8GB in /var/mail
🤣
no wonder apt update failed with no space left on device
tawny pebble
found this while cleaning my stuff 
mossy badge
So i bought a NUC and added 2 external drives with. Wave and zigbee2mqtt usb taking up the remaining two slots. Now I’m in need for more storage. What is the best way to go?
tawny pebble
@mossy badge i would buy a nas and free those 2 usb
clear ferry
Freenas 4 lyfe
mossy badge
Ok let me ask a stupid question then
So NUC has one Ethernet port. Let’s assume I were to use an Ethernet cable to ensure fastest internet how would I connect the NAS?
hushed basalt
Wah?
mossy badge
So I would need a switch right?
hushed basalt
Your router is a switch
clear ferry
You don't have one today ? you have only a NUC and that is connected directly in the wall ?
mossy badge
Been tinkering the last few days if I should go full Unifi.. my router is far away and not any space to place a NAS inside that cabinet
tawny pebble
@mossy badge go for Gigabit switch
clear ferry
gigabit, you peasant @tawny pebble 
tawny pebble
@clear ferry gIgAbIT
hushed basalt
I don't even think you can buy 100mbit switches now
mossy badge
So that’s why I’m thinking of running one cable from my isp and into a Unifi switch. Then I should have plenty of ports
mossy badge
So basically you plug a NAS into a switch then from a random port into the NUC. And this will provide HDD speed and internet speed?
My setup today is a media converter for fiber-> zyxel router(isp provides) -> then I’m using airties mesh today.. but considering going for Unifi. But I’m afraid of dragging Ethernet cables all over the house. As I assume so have to glue it to the bottom of the wall
tawny pebble
The AP of Ubuquiti are incredibly good. I have the AP Lite and it covers the whole apartment and also outside of it. I get the signal until the tram station 50 meters away from my apartment :O
About the rest, yes, you connect everything to the switch and this little dude passes everything to the router. the Zyxel, in your case
mossy badge
Ok: I’m considering removing the zyxel completely .. but it is installed in the one side of the house and the on the opposite side I have a Ethernet cable. So I guess I would need two switches one on each side to be able to cable more than one device. Right?
tawny pebble
For a better wifi, one should use 1 AP for 20 devices connected. I read it somewhere in the unifi manual. But of course it must not be necessarily interpreted as a rule.. I'd suggest you to wire those devices you can wire, because cable is always the best choice
mossy badge
I live in 100 m2 over two floors. I have a mesh today where I have two out of three airties mesh cabled(speed: 500/500)
tawny pebble
usually you can not simply remove your ISP router. there are usually limitations. My ISP thinks this way and i'm forced to use their router
mossy badge
But upstairs I don’t have a cable so totally relying on the mesh wireless. I@ tempted to buy a nanohd and install it in the first floor and hope that it reaches the whole house
There is a large post where people have removed it. But it is tricky to ensure tv signals. But since we are only using the Apple TV. Then it is not a big deal
So my conclusion is: keep the ISP router( put it in bridge mode) connect the Ethernet to a USG into a Unifi 8port switch. Then having one cable back into this closet so that I still can have a cabled Apple TV on the other side of the house. Then wire the NUC, NAS, and an AP and just hang the AP on the wall
My main worry is that I don’t know anyone that understand these things and as you understand from my questions I’m totally noob
clear ferry
I pull one cable to each floor
and have a switch on each floor
everything goes to my garage core switch-cluster 🤣
mossy badge
Do you pull it inside the wall or outside?
mossy badge
The idiots building my home placed this in the hall.. so it’s like opposite side of my house
clear ferry
All electrics in my house is on the wall, so I do the networking like that too
tawny pebble
ok i see, well it's simple stuff so luckily plenty of guys here can answer! i've been doing these jobs for a long time and wherever possible i suggest to cable the house. wifi is good and all but the cable is most of the time the best.
For cabling the apartment you don't need anything special. A switch and many eth. cables.
It's up to you if you wanna pass them inside the walls or do like me, outside the walls hidden inside canals.
I have a little rack cabinet mounted on a wall and here you'lll find the nas, the server, the switch and few other things. from the switch you pass the cables that will wire the apartment.
midnight adder
keep wifi to mobile devices, pretty much
tawny pebble
@midnight adder PLS which one did you buy? i'm so tired of reading internet and buy think that don't work
mossy badge
Only device needing Ethernet upstairs is my Apple TV there as well. Other than that if we have ok WiFi then that is enough for mobile
midnight adder
lemme get you the link of the plugs i own
i own uh
i now own seven of these
flashed them all with https://github.com/ct-Open-Source/tuya-convert
I only own the schuko model by the way so I dunno about the others
if you want silent switches, don't go for these, they have an audible thunk when switching the relay
mossy badge
@clear ferry what NAS are you recommending? Isn’t a NAS overkill when you have a nuc?
tawny pebble
@mossy badge if you buy the AP (access point) of ubiquiti, you'll notice they need the controller. You can also not giving any controller and they will work but you'll have troubles if one day you wanna change the SSID or network or these easy stuff.
A controller can be found in Home Assistant as plugin, so you can play on it! or also install it in a VM.. theres not need to use it. just to warn you. Beside this, these AP are the best in the market
@midnight adder I just bought them, again. because the first order i made a mistake and bought the 3 PIN version
1 hour ago i bought this exact one. And i was hoping that tuya-convert works
midnight adder
oh i own one of the 3 pins, by accident
that one isn't flashed because it worked out of the box with hass
but yeah it has that french pin sticking out so I only use it on europlug stuff
clear ferry
@mossy badge I run freenas, currently on a 4 bay self built ITX box, moving to a Dell R520 next week with 12 bays, and adding a 12 bay shelf to it later
tawny pebble
@midnight adder if you plan to flash it, you can use my template: https://blakadder.github.io/templates/lonsonho_3pin.html
midnight adder
neat
tawny pebble
@midnight adder well im in austria so it's schuko everywhere. the FR plug works awesome here. The problem is that it's only 2000W and no power metering. that sucks
midnight adder
yeah
tawny pebble
@mossy badge or just buy a qnap or a sinology 😉
midnight adder
i wish xiaomi made a schuko version of their smartplug
because i am a whore for china
praise xiaomi
tawny pebble
@midnight adder https://de.aliexpress.com/item/33054476688.html TADAAAA
but i fear no PM
midnight adder
thats bootleg xiaomi
xiaomi never released an EU version of their plug
its kinda like aliexpress has a fuck ton of "xiaomi economical brand" products that aren't actually xiaomi
they're just made to look like xiaomi's style
tawny pebble
I kinda noticed that when I found this:
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/33010769662.html
and i thought"well also chineses have to wipe their...." so maybe xiaomi thinks about everything
midnight adder
this is also a good example https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33012798603.html
(they are good pens though, I already own a few regular ones of this brand)
tawny pebble
a friend of mine bought them, or at least i guess it's this. he said the pens are really good
mossy badge
So your strategy is to run cable and then add a switch when you need multiple connection
midnight adder
i also own the official xiaomi pens but I don't actually enjoy their feel
tawny pebble
@mossy badge the other way round: have a switch and run cables when i need
midnight adder
this one does have mijia on it
tawny pebble
@midnight adder ever tried those pens with friction erasing?? awesome!
tawny pebble
@midnight adder https://de.aliexpress.com/item/4000008247381.html I have this (bought in austria) but there are better version in china/japan (i go there quite often). It's a really good ink and with the rubber tip of the pen you can erase what you typed using the friction. no dirty, no mess.. ain't even rubber it's a plastic material
so gotta go! see u next time folks!
ocean mirage
Man Quatroking is such a familiar username for some reason
ocean mirage
As in I probably played with you or like forums/irc
midnight adder
sure i was pretty active there back in the day
ocean mirage
Could have been, I did do the irc
I remember a dude named Shrub if that rings a bell
midnight adder
¯_(ツ)_/¯ you probably recognised the name because i built the minecraft wiki from the ground up
midnight adder
haven't been involved with minecraft in like five years though
clear ferry
I was thankfully too old when Minecraft came out, I played a lot of quake and UT though 😛
clear ferry
s/too old/worked 750 hours overtime per year 😛
I only play PS these days anyway, went through all uncharted games, all dark souls and Bloodborne and all Wolfenstein games the last few years
Need to find time for Sekiro at some point
midnight adder
I didn't really like sekiro a whole lot
boreal pewter
I thought you are more the Tetris guy, as the only game in your childhood
clear ferry
You are thinking of Tinkerer 😛
midnight adder
gah fuck I can't find the micro-sd card I used previously for flashing
oh right
i put it in the opi
tiny ass buggers
mossy badge
So I went an got a AC Pro connected it to my router (isp). just to compare with what I already got
So I see the speed wise (fast.com) shows quite low speeds, but when I connect the cable it is 500/500
so is this just expected even when teh computer is just 1 meter away (testing..)
on my iPhone xs Im getting 200 when sitting 1 meter away
Upstairs I get like 30..
midnight adder
just broke a 32gb micro sd card while trying to eject it from my raspberry pi case
fuck life and fuck micro sd
clever mortar
I am now finally SD card free on my primary HA instance
sharp spire
what'd you replace it with?
clever mortar
A VM on an old laptop 🤣
sharp spire
ah that'd do it
I used to have it running on my PC but then I wanted something that could last on battery power for a while - been thinking about upgrading my storage on the pi
clever mortar
I'm not missing the Pi, that's for sure. I'd look at a old/second hand laptop with a battery still in reasonable shape
sharp spire
only laptop I have is this old powerbook and I don't think HA supports that
clever mortar
If you can install Debian/Ubuntu on it, HA supports it
Hass.io may be tricky if it's not x86
sharp spire
looks like the last python build for PPC was only 3.5
clever mortar
Ah PPC... yeah, that's likely to be an interesting challenge
sharp spire
it's currently making a shiny platform for my 3d printer
tranquil bone
Pi should be starting to catch up tho'. I went with a ThinkCentre Tiny 915m myself. They're not a bad price
clear ferry
I should grab @late gate old ups, battery power without all that laptop buggery 😛
clever mortar
Yeah, upgrading to a NUC or similar is on my to-do list, but the laptop is here now, and as I'm using Proxmox migrating hosts should be easy
boreal pewter
Deskmini build Tinkerer
clever mortar
Ok, a small compact form-factor PC 😛
Proxmox... isn't perfect, but it's free, and it works, and it's not VMWare 😄
clever mortar
I'm sure the current (free) version of VMWare ESXi sucks less than it used to
clear ferry
It does 😛
clever mortar
So, it's just 💩 then 😛
clear ferry
Only downside is they disabled the API in the free version
clever mortar
Honestly, haven't touched it since the days of 5.5, and I found the UI back then... "underwhelming"
clever mortar
I may play with the free edition again at some point then, always good to keep the skills from getting totally rusty
clear ferry
Yeah the webui in the free version of 6.7 is tolerable
I prefer working on the cli of the hosts anyway 😛
late gate
@clear ferry will run windows me to host hassio
what do you guys inlcude/exclude in recorder?
in general terms
dusty gorge
Help! I have been trying to figure this out for a week. I have brand new intel nuc with ubuntu desktop installed. After awhile I cant connect to nuc. I get a steady blue blinking light on the NUC. I then would I have attach a keyboard to turn on nuc. I have disabled on power , screen etc on Ubuntu. Here is the strange part . I took the NUC to work and it never did this. Just stayed on. Took it back home and is started again. Any suggesstions?
dusty gorge
@clever mortar any idea where in the NUC Bios i can turn this off? wonder why at work it never displayed this behavior?
clever mortar
Not having a NUC... no
dusty gorge
k
clever mortar
It's probably an Ubuntu Desktop setting though
dusty gorge
k
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
Best bet is likely one of the Ubuntu forums
dusty gorge
k
clear ferry
Ubuntu desktop as a server 🤢
clever mortar
Maybe it's no a server... 🤞
mossy badge
So I have a NUC and running Home assistant on that, but looking at buying a NAS. So do I then sell the NUC and just use the NAS, or do I do both?
clever mortar
Depends on the NAS, and what you need it to do really
IMO use both, and the NAS can be the location of your local backups
late gate
Im unsure if running the service components on a NAS could be clever like sql, mqtt, influx etc since it got 40TB in raid and backed up every night vs running them on the hassio installation with that backup
clever mortar
Splitting the load is likely to have some benefit
Certainly I'd put Influx over there at least
clear ferry
Buy more NUCs and a few NAS is my recommendation 😛
late gate
any suggested docker stacks for tick?