#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 370

midnight adder Aug 5, 2019, 2:38 AM

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@pliant forge got is all setup in a container.

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But I didn't realize that there was no store doing the manual install, so I'm quite lost at this point. I don't understand why there are two forks of it.

pliant forge Aug 5, 2019, 2:41 AM

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You ended up not installing hassio, most power users prefer it that way.

midnight adder Aug 5, 2019, 2:44 AM

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I tried with the Hassio in the VM and that was the one that got stuck on the preparing page.

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If I can figure out how to easily edit the config file, I should be okay. But I am unsure of how to easily do that at this time.

midnight adder Aug 5, 2019, 3:10 AM

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I tried another container using the following guide: https://gist.github.com/frenck/32b4f74919ca6b95b30c66f85976ec58 and it doesn't work. So I don't know what I'm doing wrong with hass.io.

Gist

Simple install command for installing Hass.io on a Generic Ubuntu/...

Simple install command for installing Hass.io on a Generic Ubuntu/Debian machine - hassio_ubuntu_install_commands.sh

hearty depot Aug 5, 2019, 5:17 AM

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clear ferry Aug 5, 2019, 5:53 AM

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I saw that yesterday @hearty depot 😛

low harness Aug 5, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Same in Swedish.

clear ferry Aug 5, 2019, 5:53 AM

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The whole thread was epic on reddit

low harness Aug 5, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Sköld-padda

clear ferry Aug 5, 2019, 5:54 AM

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But that is because all the scandi languages are the bastard children of German sad

low harness Aug 5, 2019, 5:54 AM

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True

clear ferry Aug 5, 2019, 7:10 AM

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You like my new HA build?

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https://i.redd.it/z9ptyzm05je31.jpg

hearty depot Aug 5, 2019, 7:17 AM

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needsmoreram.jpg

hushed basalt Aug 5, 2019, 9:22 AM

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Hmm

low harness Aug 5, 2019, 9:54 AM

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You may want to bring it out of the sunlight. Remember the Raspberry that died from camera flashes?

ocean mirage Aug 5, 2019, 9:56 AM

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Damn, were they studio flashs?

low harness Aug 5, 2019, 10:00 AM

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Nope. Just ordinary camera flashes. I think it was first revision of Pi 3.

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Some chip which had too thin casing and caused a reboot when blasted with photons.

ocean mirage Aug 5, 2019, 10:02 AM

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Oh lol

low harness Aug 5, 2019, 10:03 AM

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https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/xenon-death-flash-a-free-physics-lesson/

Raspberry Pi

Xenon Death Flash: a free physics lesson - Raspberry Pi

If you own a Raspberry Pi 2, congratulations: you’re also the proud owner of an elegant demonstration of the photoelectric effect! At the weekend, Peter Onion, a veteran of our forums and of Raspberry Jams in Cambridge, Bletchley and surrounding areas (visible, costumed, i...

hearty depot Aug 5, 2019, 10:20 AM

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Same with the amazon dash buttons

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I still can set them up with the app - pew - hopefully this ll not chnage

late gate Aug 5, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Ugh. You know you are a bit into the sensor things when you put the sensor into your pants just to check if its working

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how many here are using time on making entiti names nice on hubs and other integrations, or rather make the name nice in HA?

clear ferry Aug 5, 2019, 12:35 PM

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I do 99% of the changes in the HA registry

clear ferry Aug 5, 2019, 12:56 PM

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nice 512GB persistent memory modules

clear ferry Aug 5, 2019, 2:30 PM

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📎 dfasfas.PNG

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decent performance on my new NVMe drive

wintry crow Aug 5, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Well google have shafted me, removing google photos support from bu&s

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https://pypi.org/project/gphotos-sync/ seems to do the same thing tho, allowing me to drag all my photos off google onto my server

PyPI

gphotos-sync

Google Photos and Albums backup tool

mighty wyvern Aug 5, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Anyone managed to the the Eufy Robovac intergrated into Home Assistant?

clever mortar Aug 5, 2019, 9:09 PM

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That'd be a #330944238910963714 question @mighty wyvern - #the-water-cooler is for (as mentioned in the channel topic) things not HA related

velvet horizonBOT Aug 6, 2019, 12:43 AM

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@woven furnace posted a message that is too long, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/krK6vNQbsJ/

woven furnace Aug 6, 2019, 12:45 AM

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Help: The World Wide Lightning Location Network (WWLLN)is a GREAT addition, particularly for us in central Florida, on the Bananna River. So far, though, I haven't been able to get it to work. I see from searching the site that some others have an issue as well, but I couldn't find any fixes.

Keep getting errors:

Error while setting up platform wwlln........... Suggestions? Thanks

dull chasm Aug 6, 2019, 1:10 AM

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do you have the defaults ...plus this should be in #330944238910963714

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 6:20 AM

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Well that was random

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The power went out the second I turned on the TV

eager trench Aug 6, 2019, 6:27 AM

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fusebox

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 6:32 AM

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Nah, got an SMS from the power company the same second, so wasn't me 😂

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Unless I broke the whole grid 😛

eager trench Aug 6, 2019, 6:32 AM

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lol

hearty depot Aug 6, 2019, 6:35 AM

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fufufu - got a "newer" washing machine and this §$%! is now filling up with water - luckaly it only drowled a liter in the bath..

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Some tips from you guys maybe?

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 6:36 AM

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The outward pump is blocked? The intake is leaking? Replace it on warranty 😛

hearty depot Aug 6, 2019, 6:38 AM

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no warrenty :/ I hope its the intake 🤞 would be the easyest

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 6:39 AM

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Thank goodness for the five year default Norwegian extended consumer warranty on all electronics 😛

hearty depot Aug 6, 2019, 6:39 AM

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💢 I want a right to repair

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same level as an unconditional basic income
almost no chance 🤷

midnight adder Aug 6, 2019, 7:15 AM

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Heyyy

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 7:40 AM

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https://instagram.com/thingsihavedrawn?igshid=hldulmfz4wdv

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😂 😂 😂 😂

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 8:01 AM

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@ocean mirage https://open.spotify.com/track/0EUfkJUbIIqZV66Yf4KNA8?si=Ii2LtD7JSMCG-HuwQUhk8w

Spotify

Twilight Time - Single Version

Twilight Time - Single Version, a song by The Platters on Spotify

young sigil Aug 6, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Huh. That spotfy link crashes discord whenever Privacy Badger blocks it and I scroll past it.

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 8:17 AM

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hah wtf

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atxbyea, breaker of the discord, ruler of the spotify

midnight adder Aug 6, 2019, 9:05 AM

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hmmm

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 9:05 AM

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I need to start saving links, I’m never in the situation to listen to things when I’m pinged but I appreciate it

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 9:07 AM

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🤣

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 9:46 AM

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I have created my own discord server for linking to comments

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 11:06 AM

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aaah, finally had 30 minutes to spare so I could move back from untangle to pfsense

strange vapor Aug 6, 2019, 11:15 AM

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Aren't all the cool kids using NFTables these days?

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 11:16 AM

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cool kids

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see: atxbyea

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 11:16 AM

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hadn't even heard about it before you mentioned it @strange vapor 🤣

upper tinsel Aug 6, 2019, 11:45 AM

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@ocean mirage me and my SO have one for saving stuff, sharing stuff with each other, and home Assistant notifications

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 11:46 AM

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You have quite a relationship with your Superior Officer!

upper tinsel Aug 6, 2019, 11:48 AM

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Yea she hasn't seen fit to fire me yet

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 11:49 AM

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Sir Yes Sir!

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 11:51 AM

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Oh that’s a good idea

upper tinsel Aug 6, 2019, 11:57 AM

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It's great specially since you can search, control what gets sent as a notification/sound, make mentions to get attention, etc

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I'm tempted to use it for voice calls too, because cell calls are such low bitrate they're hard to understand

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But she doesn't have unlimited data lol

hushed basalt Aug 6, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Whelp

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My wife has learnt that she can toggle lights in the study to get my attention

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What have I created!

strange vapor Aug 6, 2019, 3:25 PM

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Gotta love over-enthusiastic security checklists. We have layer upon layer of security including properly run SSH CAs, Mutual TLS, Iptables and Security Groups, and we get asked if we can add TCP Wrappers....

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As it turns out, just to satisfy a tickbox in a checklist which hasn't been updated since the 80s!

strange vapor Aug 6, 2019, 3:47 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hZxo96x48A

YouTube

Tantacrul

Music Software & Interface Design: MuseScore

This is a UX & UI design review of the music notation software: MuseScore, which has become increasingly popular over the last few years. In this video I loo...

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pure vine Aug 6, 2019, 4:02 PM

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the musescore dev commented on the video and took the video well, i think he might be working on fixing the issues

late gate Aug 6, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Have any of you gone from google to alexa and visa versa, and how was the experience of switching?

strange vapor Aug 6, 2019, 4:57 PM

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@pure vine They're already wokring on a few of the issue, and have referenced the video in the Github issues 😄

pure vine Aug 6, 2019, 4:57 PM

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yeah, they have already changed the logo

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Only $17000 to install solar panels on my roof ThinkEyes

light trout Aug 6, 2019, 5:03 PM

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🤔

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boreal pewter Aug 6, 2019, 5:06 PM

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I'll do it for 16.999

low harness Aug 6, 2019, 5:21 PM

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But he promised to stop that, @light trout

light trout Aug 6, 2019, 5:22 PM

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I know 😮

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 5:24 PM

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He will never stop..

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MonkaSadRain

boreal pewter Aug 6, 2019, 5:28 PM

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@clear ferry what about my offer?

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 5:30 PM

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@boreal pewter NEIN

upper tinsel Aug 6, 2019, 5:53 PM

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@clear ferry only $17000? That pays for itself*

*in a few decades

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 5:54 PM

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In 10 years with that power production

boreal pewter Aug 6, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Do you still live that long? Weren't you with bill gates at school?

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 6:02 PM

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I'm only 22 ThonkEyes

boreal pewter Aug 6, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Oh

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 6:02 PM

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I kid

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I'm old, but not that old 😛

boreal pewter Aug 6, 2019, 6:02 PM

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You even were too old for a Gameboy!

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 6:02 PM

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I'm older than @light trout but younger than @clever mortar

velvet horizonBOT Aug 6, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Tinkerer is away for 20h 32m 8s with a message :point_right: Not here. There. Somewhere? Everywhere? 🤷

light trout Aug 6, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Everyone is older then me, that's a flawed metric

clear ferry Aug 6, 2019, 6:03 PM

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👶 👴

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I'm halfway to 70

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TaylorLoser

unreal orbit Aug 6, 2019, 6:26 PM

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I'm a quarter of the way to a century 😔

late gate Aug 6, 2019, 9:24 PM

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@clear ferry i used about 15k usd on solar. Selling for 15-20k nok a year so bearly worth it

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And ur all oldies :p

upper tinsel Aug 6, 2019, 10:54 PM

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Probably worth it alone for protecting your roof from needing to be replaced - very expensive

hushed basalt Aug 6, 2019, 11:02 PM

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With solar it's important to not look at it backwards

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First thing to do is to reduce consumption

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So looking at your heating/cooling loads and figuring out how to reduce that

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Ie insulation, air tightness, shading, curtains, etc etc

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Then change your patterns to move dynamic loads to the middle of the day.

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 11:03 PM

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Nah I got solar panels now I can fuck the planet in every other way now too

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ahead of the curve

hushed basalt Aug 6, 2019, 11:04 PM

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So washing machines, dryers, air con etc on timers

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Then you figure out that you actually need a much smaller system when you do that

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Which is cheaper. Which means the payback period is reasonable

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A lot of people just throw kilowatts of pv at their energy bill problem. Which means huge capital costs, and their usage patterns suck so they never actually use the PV for their big loads. So double whammy

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 11:05 PM

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My energy company tried to install the new meter the other day but we weren't home so its been delayed. until its installed they dont know how much I export to the grid it just ticks the meter back

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so ive been at 1:1

hushed basalt Aug 6, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Exporting is useless in Aus

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6 cents or something?

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 11:06 PM

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I think I get around 12 cents I believe

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6 cents is what I have heard from people in NSW though

hushed basalt Aug 6, 2019, 11:06 PM

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We get around 6 in WA

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 11:06 PM

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I think ACT is one of the best places to have solar

hushed basalt Aug 6, 2019, 11:07 PM

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Then if you import that kwh back you pay closer to 30 cents

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 11:07 PM

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yeah I pay 22 or 24 cents

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I cannot remember which

hushed basalt Aug 6, 2019, 11:07 PM

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Is your HVAC in homeassistant?

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Once you get your data from your inverter you want to set up automation to try and use your excess solar

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 11:08 PM

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yes, but its very dumb atm, just turns on in the morning

hushed basalt Aug 6, 2019, 11:08 PM

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Ie heater runs higher when solar is high etc

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 11:08 PM

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yeah I have plans to do that

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it looks like the easier way is to load my solar details into pvoutput.org and then install the component for that

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but I might be able to make a component that does it directly I guess

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I figure I would want to do something like - if exporting to the grid and nobody is home and its after a certain time (or a certain time until sundown?) then run the HVAC

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cause running it in the morning if nobody home helps nothing?

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but I guess its much more power in the initial heating/cooling so maybe any excess is a good time to run

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idk

hushed basalt Aug 6, 2019, 11:46 PM

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If your home has good air tightness and thermal mass

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You can use your home as a thermal battery

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 11:46 PM

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yeah thats a good point

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its pretty airtight, well insulated

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I guess I can always just play around with different methods and check my energy usage with my smart meter when they install it

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a lot of variables though, and that might not be granular enough

hushed basalt Aug 6, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Do you have any temp sensors

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I bought a bunch of xiaomi temp humidity sensors they're great

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 11:49 PM

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I have one currently but I am still waiting on my ali order so I can use it lol

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I'd sort of like to get some actually readings on each of my breakers but seems it might be a little annoying to do

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isolating my heat pump would be nice

hushed basalt Aug 6, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Yeah it can definitely be handy

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I'm not sure how well those clamp meters work

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Apparently pretty well, which I was doubtful of too

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I think I saw a video where a guy was testing them against proper gear and they were pretty accurate

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I can't say its something I know much about though

hushed basalt Aug 6, 2019, 11:53 PM

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https://esphome.io/cookbook/power_meter.html

ESPHome

Non-Invasive Power Meter

Instructions for hacking your power meter at home to measure your power usage.

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This is probably the direction you would go in

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I'm renting so it's all 🤷 to me at the moment

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Wait nvm

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That's just a blink sensor

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 11:54 PM

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yeah I was a little confused

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I was looking at some esphome related stuff though

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and also iotawatt, which seems a little pricier but possibly easier

hushed basalt Aug 6, 2019, 11:55 PM

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That's probably good for me though. Except there's no power points in my meterbox :(

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Openenergymonitor has been around for a while

ocean mirage Aug 6, 2019, 11:55 PM

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yeah I'd have to get an electrician in too, and the cavity behind the meter box is super thin

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might be a bit jank

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 12:01 AM

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As long as there's enough room to install the clamps

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Worse case you can install something near the heat pump

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Well and enough room for power plugs and stuff too I assume

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 12:02 AM

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But if you're getting whole house data from the inverter I'd put it on the backburner

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 12:02 AM

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but yeah there are thing you can attach at the heat pump end but if I am doing something I'd rather monitor all breakers

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yeah ill probably just wait and see

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 12:03 AM

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I'd work on your whole house surplus management first

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 12:03 AM

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inverter has data and smart meter has data, hopefully I can use the meter properly

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Then do individual monitoring after

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 12:03 AM

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probably wise

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 12:04 AM

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I might try putting a pulse counter on mine

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If I can find something battery powered

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How ironic that there's no power in the power meter

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 12:05 AM

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haha yep

balmy inlet Aug 7, 2019, 12:16 AM

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I was thinking of doing the pulse meter as well, may have too see if I can rig up enough batteries/solar cells to keep a d1 mini operating continuously

upper tinsel Aug 7, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Wonder what the heating/cooling effect of the panels over the roof (and I guess compared to the Tesla shingles) are on a house

flat lintel Aug 7, 2019, 3:10 AM

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whos ready

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for their favorite time of the month

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🎉 FORUM MAINTENANCE 🎉

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modest sentinel Aug 7, 2019, 3:51 AM

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so I just bought a house and moved this weekend :O. Now the fun can begin

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 3:52 AM

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How many sensors will you put in it

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Ridiculous answers only

modest sentinel Aug 7, 2019, 3:52 AM

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I want to replace the switches and dimmers with something smart.. I'm thinking ZigBee over z-wave. Any recommendations?

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oh i have no idea

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 3:52 AM

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What country?

modest sentinel Aug 7, 2019, 3:52 AM

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US

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 3:52 AM

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You're spoilt for choice then

modest sentinel Aug 7, 2019, 3:52 AM

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yeah that's been my problem

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 3:53 AM

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We have like two brands of ZigBee switches we are allowed to use

modest sentinel Aug 7, 2019, 3:53 AM

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most of my existing stuff is zigbee and I've been much happier with that over my z-wave stuff

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where are you?

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 3:53 AM

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Australka

modest sentinel Aug 7, 2019, 3:53 AM

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ahh, bummer

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 3:53 AM

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Typo but I'm leaving it

modest sentinel Aug 7, 2019, 3:54 AM

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and my house has a wireless gate, I wonder if I can do something there so I can just trigger it from my phone instead of needing to carry a remote

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Most gate/garage door openers will have a dry contact switch

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Basically two terminals you short to operate them

modest sentinel Aug 7, 2019, 3:54 AM

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the previous owner left a ring doorbell in a box... but it's gated. what point is a ring doorbell if you can't even get to the door

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Check the manual of your opener

modest sentinel Aug 7, 2019, 3:55 AM

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hmm ok

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I'll have to go look at the make/model when the sun comes back around

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also i'm super excited to make a big garden and do some sensors for sun/soil/water

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 3:56 AM

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You'll probably just be able to chuck an esp8266 in there with a relay

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Basically the same as a garage door opener

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And you can also wire in an outdoor reed switch to the gate

modest sentinel Aug 7, 2019, 3:56 AM

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oh hmm

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 3:56 AM

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To check if it's open

modest sentinel Aug 7, 2019, 3:57 AM

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you know what's funny... i got three remotes here. Two are your typical garage door openers, one is the small remote for the gate

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one of the garage door openers opens the gate

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and the other does nothing

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so i dont have a garage door opener at the moment...

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well, i do if i go press the button

flat lintel Aug 7, 2019, 3:59 AM

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counts down

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15

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0

modest sentinel Aug 7, 2019, 4:00 AM

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ducks

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i wish discord's /me felt more like irc

flat lintel Aug 7, 2019, 4:00 AM

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only 55 seconds late

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https://twitter.com/home_assistant/status/1158951106061279233

Home Assistant (@home_assistant)

[status] In Progress: Scheduled maintenance is currently in progress. We will provide updates as necessary. https://t.co/8Ey3ePKnRZ

flat lintel Aug 7, 2019, 4:16 AM

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that was easy

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 6:06 AM

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Sadly German - but the board looks nice https://www.heise.de/make/meldung/Rock-Pi-S-Alexa-zum-Selberbauen-4488607.html

Make

Rock Pi S: Alexa im Eigenbau?

Radxas neuer Bastelrechner setzt auf Spezialisierung. Der günstige Raspi-Konkurrent hat Potenzial als DIY-Smart-Speaker.

boreal pewter Aug 7, 2019, 6:27 AM

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It just hasn't no other usage than the title says and the title is actually misleading click-baiting because it doesn't tell anything about software components because there is no software like that yet as I know of

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 6:37 AM

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That you know of Shrekt

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😛

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 6:41 AM

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its just like an pi zero - debian 9 with a radaxs kernel
snips or rhasspy maybe

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i like the size and I/O - just what I need

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 6:45 AM

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The size is compelling atleast ThinkEyes

boreal pewter Aug 7, 2019, 6:47 AM

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Right, I don't know of a self-hostable voice-control software which is comparable to Alexa or Google which use a few thousands back-end server, probably a few hundred employees working on it daily and improving recognition

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Do u?

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 6:48 AM

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Yes, @hearty depot runs a company like that on his spare time 😂

boreal pewter Aug 7, 2019, 6:48 AM

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Good that I don't work there 😄

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 6:49 AM

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You should be, he is known to not pay his employees well!

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 6:50 AM

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thats the two I ll maybe run in the future
https://github.com/synesthesiam/rhasspy
https://snips.ai/

GitHub

synesthesiam/rhasspy

Rhasspy voice assistant for Home Assistant and Hass.IO - synesthesiam/rhasspy

Snips

Snips — Using Voice to Make Technology Disappear

Snips provides Private-By-Design, Decentralized, Voice Assistant Technology and Solutions. With our software you can create your Custom Voice Interface.

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 6:51 AM

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Not as good as Misplaced Childhood, but a very good listen anyway

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https://open.spotify.com/album/1gREZOde7X9shG1p2WmsvU?si=fpjkuGXISi2BAiAdYSowEA

Spotify

Brave

Brave, an album by Marillion on Spotify

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 6:52 AM

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How do I get a turkisch credit card 🤣
would like to use spotify too

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 6:53 AM

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What, why do you need a Turkish one? 😂

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 6:55 AM

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The lyra is a wicked low currency - so when you pay in lyra your subscription costs is about 20%
I dont pay my employees well because there just isnt enough liquid mony around 🤷 you have to get creative 🤣

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 6:55 AM

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shh shh shh shh

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 6:57 AM

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and I also dont own a credit card - spotify says no to paypal afaik

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 6:57 AM

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I got a Spotify family account, costs almost the same as a single account and I can have five members, currently have me, my wife and ha on the account, nice for guest users needing music on my assistants

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I pay Spotify via PayPal ThinkEyes

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 6:57 AM

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😮

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 6:58 AM

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Done it for atleast 5 years I think

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 6:58 AM

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Neaat

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 6:58 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20190807_085236.jpg

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Cats are the bastards of nature I tell you 😂

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 7:01 AM

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lucifer in the same named series had a nice line on that one
somting like: Do you want to be happly greeted - get a dog . Want a box with shit in the corner - get a cat

boreal pewter Aug 7, 2019, 7:02 AM

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Isn't spotify simply payable with PayPal? I used poland earlier so I got a poland PayPal and charged it from my german paypal

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However 15 bucks for a family account is nothing

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:02 AM

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Exactly @boreal pewter

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 7:03 AM

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I already pay for Deezer atm

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:03 AM

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Haven't even heard of that 😂

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French 😞

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I've been using subsonic for my own stuff since 2005, so I was ahead of the streaming curve 😛

boreal pewter Aug 7, 2019, 7:07 AM

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lol after Limewire and Bearshare became obsolet I used youtube-downloader, then I got a fetish on flac with an old iPod with Linux CFW and then I just got bored of always manually downloading music. That way you barely get aware of new good music

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And then I have just chosen spotify

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:07 AM

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Yeah, most of the music I listen to wasn't on streaming services and some of it still isn't

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I'm too far down the progressive rock rabbit hole

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 7:08 AM

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lol my hole is german hiphop - even if I get to old for this

boreal pewter Aug 7, 2019, 7:08 AM

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I'm too deep in real dubstep and not the Skrillex mainstream shit. I listened that already 2011 when people still assumed I wear a broken transmission with me

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But still I don't want that Youtube and Soundcloud quality

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:10 AM

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Lol, I can't listen to either of those genres, I listen to almost anything, but hip-hop doesn't interest me and dubstep makes my ears bleed😂

boreal pewter Aug 7, 2019, 7:11 AM

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I'm tinkering again with automatic Git-Jenkins-Pipelines for Docker Containers and I just know I can't handle it 😦

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:12 AM

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I need to look into containers.. next year 😛

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 7:13 AM

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I know the feeling way to well 😅

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I didnt even knew that WPA2 was easy crackable - now I hear bout DragonBlood wich let you crack WPA3 🤣

boreal pewter Aug 7, 2019, 7:16 AM

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Sure, wifi has never been secure. With some patience you will always get the password

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:16 AM

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It was announced a few months ago I believe

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I started working with wireless in 2003, and i was only one of few in my town who did afaik 😂

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 7:17 AM

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yea - and the flaw is so deam deep that you have to brake WPA3 wit WPA3.1 wich isnt compatible

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:18 AM

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I managed 55 primary and secondary schools, lots of networking stuff

boreal pewter Aug 7, 2019, 7:18 AM

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There probably won't be a new secure WPA standard any time soon, and even if, before it becomes mainstream and everyone upgrade for several hundred bucks it will be unsecure again

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And then again you still have dozens of devices not using it

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Smartphones, Smarthome, Consoles, TV, Streaming Devices

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:19 AM

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There is a reason why the military doesn't use wireless 😛

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 7:19 AM

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too poor

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:20 AM

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I remember reading up on TEMPEST, where you can wirelessly read a CRT monitor from 5km away

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 7:20 AM

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my old scool network was realy well manageged - you had your own smb share - only thing you had to do - check what is the server - past the ip in the network and you had read access to ALL personal folders

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:20 AM

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That is why the Norwegian military shifted to LCD in 1999 I believe it was

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And any Ethernet cable can be wiretapped, so they shifted to optical fiber cables with monitoring for signal loss in the mid 90s I believe for all clients

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 7:23 AM

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lol at least they learn fast - when I ceck up on the military of my neighbours (germany) I always get a laughing attack

light trout Aug 7, 2019, 7:24 AM

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Their office clients run wifi

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:25 AM

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And they use huge displays on the wall to display all passwords? @hearty depot

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xi2

light trout Aug 7, 2019, 7:26 AM

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My (IT) teacher had the admin psw on a Post-It under the mouse pad

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:27 AM

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When I worked with schools I can tell you 99% of the passwords were max 1m from their computer

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 7:27 AM

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nay - thats germany - its pinned on the wall

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:28 AM

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Screen model? That'll do, kids name on a picture? That'll do, under the keyboard? That'll do, their name? That'll do, name of the school? That'll do

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Think we used 8char minimum with atleast one uppercase in those days

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My passwords have all been more than 16 and alphanumerics since 2000, to avoid LANMAN hashing of passwords

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 7:30 AM

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"Sorry, but your password must contain an uppercase letter, a number, a haiku, a gang sign, a hieroglyph, and the blood of a virgin."

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:31 AM

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These days I generate 32char random passwords for each login, so I don't share the password on any services

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 7:31 AM

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how?

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or.. how do you store

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:31 AM

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Password generator offline, stored in a keepass database

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 7:32 AM

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I used hashes some monts back
where is your database?

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:33 AM

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Stored in my owncloud server atm, so behind two layers of authentication to reach it, copied once a day off to secondary and tertiary storage

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And I never store passwords in a browser, so I copy paste for each login

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I have never been marked on haveibeenpwned though 😛 and never had an account be compromised afaik

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 7:35 AM

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owncloud can also take care of the database - or you have to install a client on each machine? (wouldnt guess)

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:35 AM

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Yes, client on every machine

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But keepass is cross platform, and supports fingerprint login on Android which is nice

eager trench Aug 7, 2019, 7:36 AM

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roboform here

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same cross platform fingerprint

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:36 AM

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Do you use the one click login though @eager trench ?

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I stay away from those features

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 7:37 AM

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well - Lastpass - shure nice functionality - but a foring service

eager trench Aug 7, 2019, 7:37 AM

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one click login? Fingerprint... can also use windows hello to loginto it

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or you mean one click to trigger the browser?

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in which case I use that

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:38 AM

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Yeah, to the browser

eager trench Aug 7, 2019, 7:38 AM

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yeah I do...

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:39 AM

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@hearty depot lastpass has had many security flaws afaik

eager trench Aug 7, 2019, 7:40 AM

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if you lose your roboform master password, not even God can crack in

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 7:40 AM

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less then the browser I persume 🤣

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good old bruteforce ll shurly do... in like 10 years

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 7:41 AM

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Never heard of roboform before though

eager trench Aug 7, 2019, 7:41 AM

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really????? it's been around forever

boreal pewter Aug 7, 2019, 7:48 AM

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So 2 bucks a month just to have your passwords in a app

eager trench Aug 7, 2019, 7:49 AM

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i got 5 years for a massive discount a few years ago... they always have specials

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 8:07 AM

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NOK 215.53 20%OFF | ZWN Smart Wireless Wifi Video Doorbell Intercom 720P Phone Call Door Bell Camera Infrared Remote Record Home Security Monitoring
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bYhmMo4C

NOK 215.53 20%OFF | ZWN Smart Wireless Wifi Video Doorbell Interc...

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Wonder if these would be possible to adapt to HA

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For that price and video quality I would be very interested

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 8:12 AM

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argh - I ll make a 'but I want to see this ad' button

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 8:15 AM

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I love AliExpress auto translated comments

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📎 Screenshot_20190807_101444_com.alibaba.aliexpresshd.jpg

valid halo Aug 7, 2019, 8:33 AM

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Tambourine of Tech adds +4 to "please work" rolls

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 8:38 AM

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@valid halo 🎉 🎉 🎉 ❤

hushed basalt Aug 7, 2019, 9:03 AM

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Ebay product descriptions aren't much better

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Especially in Australia where there is sooooooo many Chinese vendors

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Best quality, best good works

tough igloo Aug 7, 2019, 9:36 AM

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I'm still waiting on an AliExpress order I placed on June 1. This is by the far the longest I've ever experienced!

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 9:41 AM

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I just did dispute for some orders from may 😂

tough igloo Aug 7, 2019, 9:42 AM

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Yeah I'm about to hit that dispute button. It's weird because it's 5 items i ordered at the same time all from different sellers

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 9:42 AM

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I am waiting on an order from may also lol

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but its not at the estimated delivery date yet lol

tough igloo Aug 7, 2019, 9:43 AM

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lol trade war making my deliveries slow

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shakes fist at universe

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 9:46 AM

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Any of you guys use HA with your respective IR controllers as a universal remote thing?

tough igloo Aug 7, 2019, 9:47 AM

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I use the Broadlink pro and mini

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 9:47 AM

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I got a mini 3 or whatever

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but only been using it for my heat pump

tough igloo Aug 7, 2019, 9:47 AM

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I think mines the mini 2

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 9:48 AM

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but I think ill see how well HA works as a remote interface for my tv/receiver and ps4

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just need to actually learn lovelace shit now I think so it looks good lol

tough igloo Aug 7, 2019, 9:48 AM

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I use it really well for tv/soundbar/xboxone

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 9:48 AM

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ah cool

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does xbone have an IR receiver?

tough igloo Aug 7, 2019, 9:49 AM

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yeah it does. I use mine as my media hub. I bought the tv tuner for it so everything goes through the xbox

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My TV is pretty much just a monitor

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 9:50 AM

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oh okay interesting

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I mainly use my PS4 for plex/netflix

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xbone doesnt get much use

tough igloo Aug 7, 2019, 9:51 AM

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I use WOL to determine the state of the TV and Xbox. There was an awesome custom component but microsoft killed the access to the smartglass api

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 9:51 AM

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thats not a bad idea

tough igloo Aug 7, 2019, 9:52 AM

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But I think there's a good PS4 component now that you could use

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 9:53 AM

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Yeah ive got a ps4 component which just controls the console once its on

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using the second screen stuff that ps4 has

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I dont think I can turn it on with it

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looks like its gonna be cold this weekend Bloods, keep warm

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Don't mention the temperatures otherwise atxbyea will judge us

tough igloo Aug 7, 2019, 10:34 AM

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Yeah he’ll start regaling us with stories of his youth walking through the dark of day in metre high snow with no shoes on

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 10:34 AM

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except its 40 days without light or something

tough igloo Aug 7, 2019, 10:35 AM

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I’ve got my ecobee and smart vents to keep me warm. Expensive. But warm

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Gas prices are highway robbery

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 10:36 AM

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I've got no gas line, just got my reverse cycle guy

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we do have a small electric heater for the bedroom but sometimes I wonder if its not just a better idea to keep the door open with the heat pump on since they're that much more efficient

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 10:50 AM

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That is what we do all year @ocean mirage

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And we have -35 to +35 to think of 😛

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 10:51 AM

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Yeah you told me what your power usage gets to lol

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 10:51 AM

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But I never turn stuff off, before I started using ha to do it for me 😂

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My desktop has been powered on for 13 years, or since it was built 😛

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And the server rack in my garage probably didn't help

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So the heat pumps are the least of my worries

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 10:54 AM

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lol fair enough

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I never used to turn my desktop off but its off a large majority of the time now

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only really gets a little use on the weekends

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 10:55 AM

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I hardly ever use it, which is why I want to replace it with a triple monitor thin client

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I run my work stuff in VMs anyway

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 10:56 AM

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yeah makes sense

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 10:59 AM

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If only the pi supported three monitors 1080, it could be done with a usb adapter I guess, but I haven't seen anyone try that 😛

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 11:07 AM

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lol

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also you mentioned you use the ps4 with HA right? you use HA as a remote?

upper tinsel Aug 7, 2019, 11:08 AM

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If you never turn it off it never breaks, I guess

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 11:08 AM

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lol

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well it doesn't seem to work in netflix or plex

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like HA integration OR the PS4 second screen app

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which is odd cause its just commands

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 11:11 AM

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I don't use it, I just have the PS4 in ha 😂

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 11:11 AM

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oh lol

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it seems like a silly limitation

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I am just imitating the controller as far as I know so I thought it'd work

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I realise that physical remotes are probably better anyway but I just wanted it to work

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learned some things along the way though

tough igloo Aug 7, 2019, 11:35 AM

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The physical remote is better, but when the baby falls asleep in your arms and you’re sitting in the “right” position and the remote is “over there”, and your phone is in your pocket. Priceless.

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Also I watch shows with sound low/off and subtitles now

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Especially when the ashes is on!

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 11:36 AM

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If I were watching TV and found a baby asleep in my arms I would be very confused

tough igloo Aug 7, 2019, 11:36 AM

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😂

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Confuses me too sometimes

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 11:45 AM

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I used to write ha code on my phone via ssh when my daughter was 2-3 months and sleeping on top of me 😂

ocean mirage Aug 7, 2019, 11:46 AM

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oh lol

orchid crystal Aug 7, 2019, 11:51 AM

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Hi, anyone knowing when 0.97.0 will be released?

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 12:02 PM

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TBD afaik

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The beta release notes don't specify a date atleast

upper tinsel Aug 7, 2019, 12:09 PM

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No, but the latest blog does

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https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2019/08/06/home-assistant-cast/ should be today at some point?

Home Assistant

Home Assistant Cast

Show Home Assistant on a Chromecast or Google Assistant device with screen.

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"On August 7, Home Assistant 0.97 will be released. This release will allow launching Home Assistant Cast from the Home Assistant frontend. You can do this by including a new cast row that can be placed inside an entities card."

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What I imagine whenever one of the mods is @ mentioned:

📎 oslkxtd8aoe31.jpg

orchid crystal Aug 7, 2019, 12:21 PM

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That is great! Waiting for a specific fix 😁

clear ferry Aug 7, 2019, 12:29 PM

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They aren't cats though, that would be is blue bastards rather 😛

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 1:37 PM

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After I'm not able to create vlans (stupid me) I changed my netmast to /22 to get nice ranges for firewall rules.
not too secure after I only use DHCP reservations but I ll see

strange vapor Aug 7, 2019, 1:43 PM

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https://www.circuito.io Very cool!

Circuit Design App for Makers- circuito.io

Seamless circuit design for your project. circuito.io is an online tool for designing electronic circuits. Select your component combination and instantly get a detailed list of parts, a step-by-step wiring guide and custom test code for your circuit.

late gate Aug 7, 2019, 2:05 PM

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any opinion on the best room to room presence detection via software (ble etc) vs sensors like fibaro motion detectors

velvet horizonBOT Aug 7, 2019, 2:14 PM

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As an alternative to HA built-in bluetooth tracking, the monitor script uses separate devices, usually Pi Zeroes, to track bluetooth devices.
It uses MQTT topics to relay device status messages to HA. See this forum thread for more.

upper tinsel Aug 7, 2019, 2:28 PM

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someday ill bother to set that up lol

hearty depot Aug 7, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Hahaha - after I flamed bout Germany yesterday. Today the prove. ( Yes, we got choppers. No they can't fly)

📎 20190807-165650-Waldo-id3351527.jpg

echo tide Aug 7, 2019, 7:27 PM

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evening, anyone know the best way to pull config files from a git repo after a fresh install of Hassbian?

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should I delete the .homeassistant folder and just create a new one and clone the repo into that one?

low harness Aug 7, 2019, 7:39 PM

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git clone <repo> . ?

echo tide Aug 7, 2019, 7:43 PM

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figured that would not be possible; cloning into an existing, non-empty folder... anyhoo, I went ahead and removed all contents in the .homeassistant folder, lets see how that pans out 😬

low harness Aug 7, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Should be fine. It'll put back everything that's missing on the next launch.

echo tide Aug 7, 2019, 7:51 PM

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that's what I was hoping for 😃 managed to get it cloned in the meanwhile

rich tundra Aug 7, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Does anyone know if someone sells really small smart locks

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Like for this kind of indoor thing

📎 image0.jpg

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It’s less for security and more for “rules require we have it”

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So an insecurity lock is great

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 12:25 AM

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Electric strike would be better @rich tundra

west spire Aug 8, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Well it's been 16 months since I moved, and I've just reinstalled Home Assistant...

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 5:09 AM

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@rich tundra have a lot of customers with the one that just sits in the keyhole

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This kind, I believe there are zwave versions too https://www.sikkerheten-selv.no/product/803/danalock-v3-smartlås-med-app

sikkerheten-selv.no

Danalock V3 Smartlås med app

Elektronisk dørlås med app. Kun din smarttelefon. Åpner døren via din smarttelefon og bluetooth.

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 7:13 AM

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https://open.spotify.com/track/6F8hzQ5m3vPB43YLgap40O?si=I7tRyQgpRpq_qDM_aMtnkQ

Spotify

Love's Institution

Love's Institution, a song by Madrugada on Spotify

leaden adder Aug 8, 2019, 8:27 AM

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Is there any way to the general usage statistics of ha? Like how many people are using component x?
With Google I only find solution for usage statistics of one instance 😦

clever mortar Aug 8, 2019, 8:29 AM

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If you're a developer of a component, you can ask the lead devs, but they've historically not exposed that information

leaden adder Aug 8, 2019, 8:33 AM

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Good to know! And yes, beside the general interest I would like to know how many are using my component. 😛

low harness Aug 8, 2019, 8:55 AM

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If you require a specific python module, you can get download statistics of that from pypi, but it's not a good metric for various reasons.

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:25 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20190808_162454_org.blitzortung.android.app.jpg

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Yaaaaaas ❤

low harness Aug 8, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Hey! We're installing a cable in that lake!

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Norway's biggest lake you say?

low harness Aug 8, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Mjösa, yes.

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In the north part. There's 7 parallell high voltage cables going through it.

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Get out of here with those puny ö's 😛

low harness Aug 8, 2019, 2:35 PM

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We've been replacing them all recently

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Give me some proper ø's or even æ's or å's

low harness Aug 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Proper äs?

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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And look at the Aussies tremble in fear!

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Bædtelkåtek, whiskærs and blødds @hushed basalt @ocean mirage @tough igloo

low harness Aug 8, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Btw. "Norways biggest lake". That's like saying "Denmarks tallest mountain".

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Or Finlands drunkest person?

boreal pewter Aug 8, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Germanys most retarded politicain?

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Only raining a little

📎 JPEG_20190808_164526.jpg

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:46 PM

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I don't understand

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Stuck in queue with sushi in the car!

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Is this like, thor language

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Avengers endgame wasn't that good

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Øøøøøøøø Æææ Åååå ❤

unreal orbit Aug 8, 2019, 2:47 PM

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You need to start eating the sushi

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Ñö ūüúûù

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:47 PM

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My wife will kill me 😞

unreal orbit Aug 8, 2019, 2:48 PM

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But you'll be full of delicious sushi when she does

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Sorry dear they were sold out of sushi

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:48 PM

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xi2

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Pay in cash

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No evidence

unreal orbit Aug 8, 2019, 2:50 PM

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This guy secretly eats sushi ☝

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:50 PM

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What is this cash you speak of?

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:50 PM

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I don't know

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Odin coins or something

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:51 PM

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I think I have used a total of $1000 max the last 10 years in Norway with physical money

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In the States however I pay almost anything with cash, or in the UK

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Yeah brits are weird

unreal orbit Aug 8, 2019, 2:52 PM

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I only use cash for one thing anymore

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:52 PM

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I don't carry cash

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Some places are cash only though :/

clever mortar Aug 8, 2019, 2:52 PM

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I use cash for buying my coffee, and giving my son his pocket money...

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That's about it

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:52 PM

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@unreal orbit strippers?

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Usually small businesses who don't want to pay 2% to VISA

unreal orbit Aug 8, 2019, 2:53 PM

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I've actually still never been to a strip club. Never interested me

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:53 PM

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I enjoy the pound as a currency

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Weird countries with the Queen on their currency

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:54 PM

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M'lady

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:55 PM

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We'll have Prince Charles soon

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Never

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She'll outlive him

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:55 PM

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The old crow won't live forever

unreal orbit Aug 8, 2019, 2:56 PM

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That is a scientifically unproven hypothesis

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Well her human skin will die

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But her lizard form shall remain

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:56 PM

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She'll put her head in a jar like in Futurama

unreal orbit Aug 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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the queen soon

📎 Cassandra_closeup_The_End_of_the_World.jpg

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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We'll all be AI in one of axtbyeas clusters by then

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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MOISTURIZE ME

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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As long as he keeps paying his power bill we'll live forever

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God doctor who is awful

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:58 PM

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I should get my manager to pay my power bill ThinkEyes

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:58 PM

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I've seen high school video productions with better production values

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Hell is just doctor who on repeat

unreal orbit Aug 8, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Reality tv is awful. Dr Who is entertaining

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Torchwood had a chance

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But still thick in it of cheese

unreal orbit Aug 8, 2019, 2:59 PM

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The cheese is what's fun about it to me

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 2:59 PM

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I enjoyed Danger 5

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I am probably the only person in the world who did

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 3:00 PM

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What is danger 5

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Look it up!

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Oh that

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Ive seen that

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Its... Fun to quote?

unreal orbit Aug 8, 2019, 3:01 PM

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wtf did I just watch...

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Let us kill Hitler 🐦

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I love bizarre humour

hushed basalt Aug 8, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Danger 5 is purposeful cheese

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Doctor Who is a reflection of the fall of the British Empire

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And nothing of value was lost

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Australia is just Britain mk III anyways

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Newer, bigger, betterer

unreal orbit Aug 8, 2019, 3:04 PM

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You don't think Doctor Who is purposefully cheesy?

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Maybe not the newer stuff, but pre-Matt Smith it definitely was

clever mortar Aug 8, 2019, 3:05 PM

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pitchfork

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You can keep Eccleston, but Tennant was great once he found his feet

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 3:06 PM

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I prefer the David Tennant arc

unreal orbit Aug 8, 2019, 3:06 PM

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I think Eccleston was also great, but it was definitely cheesy

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I like a bit of cheese though. Open a nice bottle of wine while watching Doctor Who for a great pairing

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Speaking of cheesy, reminds me I've downloaded all of the original Muppets show, I need to watch that cheesy mess 😂

leaden adder Aug 8, 2019, 4:09 PM

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@low harness good tip with the python module. I may be blind, but where is PyPi displaying download statistics?

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I’m using
https://pypi.org/project/avea/ and I don’t think anyone else is using it 😜

PyPI

avea

Control an Elgato Avea bulb using python

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Got it, there is a page for that:
https://pypistats.org/packages/avea

PyPI Download Stats

low harness Aug 8, 2019, 4:31 PM

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It isn't. There are third party services that does, though, but the numbers aren't very reliable.

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There's reinstalls, and caches and secondary servers and stuff...

light trout Aug 8, 2019, 5:20 PM

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https://twitter.com/github/status/1159506462848086016

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 5:46 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20190808_194545_com.huawei.parentcontrol.jpg

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ShrekW

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@orchid rose https://i.redd.it/o7imkb87jod31.jpg

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 7:07 PM

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@hearty depot http://ikeaordeath.com/

IKEA or DEATH

IKEA or Death

The names of the furniture in IKEA sound a lot like the names of black metal bands. Consider this quiz an educational way to learn the difference between the two.

hearty depot Aug 8, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Deam thats loud 🤣

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 7:08 PM

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17 of 20 for me 😂

hearty depot Aug 8, 2019, 7:08 PM

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A Boholmen is a stainless steel kitchen sink, complete with a strainer.
🙄

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13

light trout Aug 8, 2019, 7:12 PM

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😄

📎 unknown.png

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 7:13 PM

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🎉

late gate Aug 8, 2019, 7:53 PM

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wow I didnt know its illegal to buy items that could contain a US zwave device to Norway. Illegal to use yes, but import. Strange.

clever mortar Aug 8, 2019, 7:54 PM

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Radio transmitters tend to be highly regulated, particularly when the government is using those frequencies

light trout Aug 8, 2019, 7:54 PM

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It's the same fequency as our emergancy brodcasts

clever mortar Aug 8, 2019, 7:55 PM

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Odd that they don't want interference there...

late gate Aug 8, 2019, 7:57 PM

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yeah. but still. It was a zigbee stick that got seized cause of zwave is illegal under it could be zwave

light trout Aug 8, 2019, 7:57 PM

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oh.. that's just them not knowing the difference, point them to google 😛

late gate Aug 8, 2019, 7:58 PM

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I did, but they said all sticks from US is illegal cause it could (note could) contain zwave

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its like talking to a wall

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lol

clever mortar Aug 8, 2019, 7:59 PM

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To be fair, they're just given a list of things

late gate Aug 8, 2019, 7:59 PM

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yeah I guess they are not techical

clever mortar Aug 8, 2019, 7:59 PM

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It's not like any of them even know what this Z-Wave or Zigbee thing is, other than a transmitter

light trout Aug 8, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Buy the same stick from ali

clever mortar Aug 8, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Which is why it's better to educate people

late gate Aug 8, 2019, 8:00 PM

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yeah I will next time

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kinda funny as a RF hacker was no issue to import

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 8:05 PM

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I have a us zwave device I bought off ebay

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Delivered straight to my mailbox 😛

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B-B-B-REAKING THE LAW

light trout Aug 8, 2019, 8:06 PM

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They don't check everything, if they did there would be years of backlog on imports 😛

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Sometimes it feels like it is Shrekt

light trout Aug 8, 2019, 8:07 PM

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hmm.. you started working for customs? 🤔

amber ice Aug 8, 2019, 8:14 PM

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@hearty depot if you can set the state of a input Boolean via Alexa, just use it as a trigger to cast on a device via an automation once they implement that feature.

clever mortar Aug 8, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Though... that's a #330944238910963714 topic 😉

amber ice Aug 8, 2019, 8:14 PM

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It was crowded there so I shifted to here

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Don't like too many ppl 😉

clever mortar Aug 8, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Please take the time to read the channel topics

unreal orbit Aug 8, 2019, 8:15 PM

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That's not really how channel topics work

amber ice Aug 8, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Well it's just talking about ideas

clever mortar Aug 8, 2019, 8:15 PM

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🤦

valid halo Aug 8, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Hey y'all

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👋

clear ferry Aug 8, 2019, 9:29 PM

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aDiscoKirby

hearty depot Aug 8, 2019, 10:09 PM

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📎 20190808-223034-StormD-id3354295.jpg

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https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/cnknu6/who_needs_license_agreements_when_you_got_this_f/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

r/ProgrammerHumor - Who needs license agreements when you got this! F

1,718 votes and 63 comments so far on Reddit

dull chasm Aug 8, 2019, 10:15 PM

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@hearty depot wasnt you wanting me to update you on ubnt radio's

hearty depot Aug 8, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Don't think so - but remembers me that I had an idea for my Vater in law and his fishing ponds. Atm to tired to rember 😅 0 am here.
But curios now xD

dull chasm Aug 8, 2019, 10:39 PM

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LOL just let me know ....I was supposed to update somebody ....cant remember now

green inlet Aug 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Anyone know of a Bluetooth solar speaker set that is not a fake rock. I want a pair of Bluetooth speakers on my patio and don’t have access to power.

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Oh yes, and I want to mount them to the ceiling over the patio so they aren’t portable

dull chasm Aug 8, 2019, 10:55 PM

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you are asking too much ...bluetooth ..no power .....and want to mount ...how are you planning for them to work

green inlet Aug 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Solar

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You can get them in fake rocks

dull chasm Aug 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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ok that will work as long as the sun is out

green inlet Aug 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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Obviously they need a rechargeable battery

dull chasm Aug 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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yea

green inlet Aug 8, 2019, 10:58 PM

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I realized it is asking a lot but that is my situation and if someone is doing it, they are amongst the HA community

dull chasm Aug 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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yea no doubt but personally i would find a way to power from mains .....ie bad weather for a week ...it finally gets sunny and you want to go outside but batterys are not charged ...would be a bummer

green inlet Aug 8, 2019, 11:00 PM

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I agree. But tearing out the siding and bead board ceiling in a brand new house isn’t an option

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🤣

dull chasm Aug 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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no plug available anywhere?

green inlet Aug 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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Sure. Want speakers on the farthest point on the ceiling away from the house and the plug is on the front of the house.

dull chasm Aug 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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damn ....no light close that you can splice into

green inlet Aug 8, 2019, 11:03 PM

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Hmm....actually a fan. Never thought of that 🤦‍♂️

dull chasm Aug 8, 2019, 11:04 PM

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there you go ....make a jb with plug or something

green inlet Aug 8, 2019, 11:04 PM

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Jb?

dull chasm Aug 8, 2019, 11:05 PM

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junction box

green inlet Aug 8, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Would still prefer the solar route. Will have to look at the junction box.....

dull chasm Aug 8, 2019, 11:11 PM

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well good luck ....without drinking a 🍺 with ya and looking at it ...hard to speculate

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ofc 🍺 is most important part of equation

rapid musk Aug 9, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Any of y'all drone owners?

valid halo Aug 9, 2019, 2:48 AM

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I wish I was one

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They're neato as hecc

worn jasper Aug 9, 2019, 2:56 AM

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Bah I think I need to look at moving my home automation off of my too! Keeps running out of memory for some reason, between node-red, Hass, and mosquitto

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Although now that I think of it I don't think I'm using mqtt anymore lol

valid halo Aug 9, 2019, 3:18 AM

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I haven't looked at my HA in weeks

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_<

hushed basalt Aug 9, 2019, 4:00 AM

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I want to build a kubernetes homelab out of small form factor pcs

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And move all of my home stuff there

worn jasper Aug 9, 2019, 4:25 AM

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Lol scalable cluster for hass

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No I'm thinking maybe node-red needs its own pi. To justify buying. A pi 4 for hass hahah

hushed basalt Aug 9, 2019, 5:12 AM

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Eventually you'll just end up with a pi cluster anyways :D

hushed basalt Aug 9, 2019, 5:29 AM

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When I own a house I'm going to run PoEs to the wardrobes of every bedroom, or one Pi per common wardrobe walls etc

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Plus one for each major area

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 5:29 AM

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ThinkEyes

hushed basalt Aug 9, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Use them for 'edge' nodes for hard wiring things

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Like motion sensors, buttons for light switches, reed switches, BLE tracking, etc

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A raspberry pi costs about the same as a ZigBee light switch here. So it's not bad value

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Then I avoid wireless for a lot of stuff, and only need to run one cat6 to each major area instead of 100 sensor wires

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Then the edge raspberry pis would probably just send mqtt back to my central broker

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It's also super dirt cheap when I consider I won't have to get an electrician in to change light switches too

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Electricians charge.. a lot here

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Especially since we can't do anything ourselves. And they know it.

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8+ rapsberry pis, generic POE hats, cat6 wiring, poe switch ports, is still super cheap in comparison

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I have thought this out :)

tawny pebble Aug 9, 2019, 9:38 AM

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@clear ferry this channel is probably better. So, I watched the video! @slim vortex Interesting, it was exactly what one would need to start off and post flashing.
Only issue, really the only one, those were the easier steps. HA can't seem to be able to "discover" these sonoff-tasmota thingy.
https://github.com/arendst/Sonoff-Tasmota/wiki/Home-Assistant
I read To ease Home Assistant configuration a feature called MQTT discovery is available. (warning: this feature is not included in sonoff-basic.bin and sonoff-classic.bin)
And guess what firmware I saw yesterday these devices are running?? :D

So, I guess I have to follow this: https://github.com/arendst/Sonoff-Tasmota/wiki/Home-Assistant-‐-Manual-Config

Can you please confirm?

GitHub

arendst/Sonoff-Tasmota

Provide ESP8266 based itead Sonoff with Web, MQTT and OTA firmware using Arduino IDE or PlatformIO - arendst/Sonoff-Tasmota

GitHub

arendst/Sonoff-Tasmota

Provide ESP8266 based itead Sonoff with Web, MQTT and OTA firmware using Arduino IDE or PlatformIO - arendst/Sonoff-Tasmota

clever mortar Aug 9, 2019, 9:48 AM

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FYI, there's #551843800209686539 for these discussions

tawny pebble Aug 9, 2019, 9:49 AM

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there was* - moved to another group, ESPHome

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but thanks 😉

clever mortar Aug 9, 2019, 9:50 AM

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Is

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There's a link to the Tasmota Discord server

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Or you can have this kind of chat in #diy-archived where it's still relatively on topic

tawny pebble Aug 9, 2019, 9:51 AM

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I did miss it, now joined! Thanks!

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 10:14 AM

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You have yeed your last haw @tawny pebble

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📎 Screenshot_20190809_121226_com.instagram.android.jpg

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 10:42 AM

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Google just bought 2000 decare of land in Norway ThinkEyes

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Wonder what they are going to do

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 10:44 AM

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something not evil I am sure 😨

dull chasm Aug 9, 2019, 10:44 AM

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Make Norway great again?

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 10:48 AM

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But we never stopped be great ThonkEyes

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 10:49 AM

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whats a Norway

light trout Aug 9, 2019, 10:49 AM

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basically the same as /dev/null

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 10:50 AM

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Meh, I'm starting to plan my trip to Houston, and I just remembered September is hurricane season, I guess I'll come the week the offices are flooded with my luck 😂

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 10:50 AM

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Business trip?

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 10:50 AM

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Work related yes xi2

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 10:51 AM

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You've been to the states before right?

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 10:51 AM

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Yeah, only east coast though

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 10:52 AM

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east coast is where I would be interested in first too

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houston sounds nice though, I have an internet friend there

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 10:52 AM

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I would enjoy 5-6 weeks on the road across the country

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But I'll never get the wife along for that ThinkEyes

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 10:53 AM

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I'd like around a month my first trip at least

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maybe 3 weeks

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doesn't sound cheap though

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 10:54 AM

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I've done three times a week, two times New York, once new jersey - Washington - Atlantic city - new York with my parents and sisters meeting our us family from upstate New York

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The us is pretty cheap compared to other European countries

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New York is expensive though

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 10:55 AM

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ah yeah cool

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 10:55 AM

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With new York tax on everything

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 10:55 AM

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I'd want to to NYC, Chicago, maybe Philly, Nashville

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move on down

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whatevers cool

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and then New Orleans

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 10:56 AM

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Country roads

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Take me home

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 10:56 AM

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I know a dude in West Virginia too lol

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 10:56 AM

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Me and you can go road tripping then 😂

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 10:56 AM

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but apparently most of that song is mentioning things that are just in western Virginia

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heh

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 10:57 AM

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We'll stop by @dull chasm and dance in front of his outdoor cameras in the middle of the night

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 10:57 AM

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What state is that

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 10:59 AM

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I'm guessing we need to check in states to see device_tracker.vasiley

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Probably not_home !

dull chasm Aug 9, 2019, 11:01 AM

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Louisiana

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:01 AM

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well there we go

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I wanted to go anyway

dull chasm Aug 9, 2019, 11:01 AM

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near new orleans

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:01 AM

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me and the Norwegian are crashing at yours

dull chasm Aug 9, 2019, 11:02 AM

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i got a swamp cot

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:02 AM

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We can put beads on @dull chasm and watch him go wild pepeClownDance

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:02 AM

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I don't know what that means but it sounds cozy

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also I told a guy in Kentucky that if I go to the states I will fight him so I assume you got my back @clear ferry

dull chasm Aug 9, 2019, 11:03 AM

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📎 unknown.png

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:03 AM

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Of course, I'm a fat bastard and look intimidating

dull chasm Aug 9, 2019, 11:03 AM

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where @clear ferry will sleep

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:04 AM

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I'll go gatorfishing with my fingers @dull chasm

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:04 AM

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I assumed we would all share your bed

dull chasm Aug 9, 2019, 11:04 AM

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my baby girl will bite ya

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:04 AM

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Arranged marriage!

dull chasm Aug 9, 2019, 11:05 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Can we hunt gators

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Have you see the show Swamp People? I assume thats your life now

dull chasm Aug 9, 2019, 11:05 AM

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should a says girls

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some of that is filmed extremmly close to me and shelby is a good friend

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:06 AM

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I don't know the names of the people but cool lol

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:06 AM

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We get to meet celebrities!

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Better than the Kardashians

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That is for sure

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:06 AM

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Keeping up with the Cajuns

dull chasm Aug 9, 2019, 11:06 AM

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📎 unknown.png

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:07 AM

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oh him, cool

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:08 AM

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Now I want Cajun food MonkaSadRain

dull chasm Aug 9, 2019, 11:08 AM

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there is nothing else....there is other food?

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:09 AM

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You should Google some Norwegian delicacies

light trout Aug 9, 2019, 11:10 AM

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Smalahove?

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Rak/lutefisk

dull chasm Aug 9, 2019, 11:12 AM

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thats food?

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:12 AM

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not really

light trout Aug 9, 2019, 11:13 AM

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I'm not convinsed, but some folks here call it food..

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:13 AM

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Yeah, let's dig down a fish in the ground, wait a few months and dig it up again

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T A S T Y

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:14 AM

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Silly Norwegians forgot where they left their fish and when they finally found it they tried to play it off as intentional

light trout Aug 9, 2019, 11:14 AM

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That's probably excatly what happened

dull chasm Aug 9, 2019, 11:15 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naAcOEDcwCk 👈 thats good food

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:15 AM

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Moose, raindeer, whale, seal are great meats though

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:16 AM

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Mooses are big fuckers

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every time I see one in a video I shit my pants

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:16 AM

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But T A S T Y

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In my hometown they usually stroll around the houses

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:16 AM

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are they aggressive?

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:17 AM

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Usually no, unless they are female and have kids

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:17 AM

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fair enough

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do you have polar bears near you or your hometown?

light trout Aug 9, 2019, 11:17 AM

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Usually they run (fast) when they see humas, they have probably heard stories 😛

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:17 AM

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We have stuffed ones 😛

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But polar bears have been in my part of the country when they have drifted in on ice flakes in the past

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Happened a few times

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:18 AM

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ah yeah

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thats one thing that I don't get

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Everyone on the internet is like "Australian wildlife is trying to kill you, scary!!!" but america and europe has fucking BEARS

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get bit by a snake here you just go to a fucking hospital

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:19 AM

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Put it on the Barbie!

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:19 AM

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exactly

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:21 AM

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Then again the most poisonous thing we have where I am from is this 😂

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https://images.app.goo.gl/kU9dgtUv7yyuM64Z6

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Last hundred years 0 people have been killed by bear or wolf though

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Snow on the other hand

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:23 AM

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And what is that

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yeah I don't think I'd like snow either

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but fuck meeting a bear, I'd take a snake or spider any day lol

light trout Aug 9, 2019, 11:24 AM

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Snow is nice, it keeps the 🍺 cold

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:24 AM

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Snow ❤

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:25 AM

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Actually it snowed here tonight at the footy stadium during a game of AFL

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it doesn't really snow here though

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like it wont build up

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:26 AM

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My roadtrip moving south in 2007, about 1/4 way south 😂

📎 DSC00066.JPG

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:27 AM

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Where the fuck is Santa

light trout Aug 9, 2019, 11:27 AM

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@ home drinking 🍺

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:32 AM

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I've been living here 12 years, I should move soon 😛

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:33 AM

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just keep working your way south until you leave hell

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:34 AM

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But I wanna go north, I want proper snow 😛

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If stuff pans out in Houston I will probably move North, that is for sure ThinkEyes

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:38 AM

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going the wrong way my friend

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:42 AM

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Not when your body is so hot that you shovel snow in your t-shirt

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I would die in Australia 😂

light trout Aug 9, 2019, 11:44 AM

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living in norway during the winter and australia during the sommer would be nice 😄

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:45 AM

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ohyes

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:52 AM

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Don’t you guys get pretty warm in summer anyway

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But also nah I don’t plan on visiting anywhere in the winter lol, screw that

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:54 AM

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I've been in new Zealand during winter

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Our winter that is 😂

ocean mirage Aug 9, 2019, 11:55 AM

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We normally go somewhere warm in our winter

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And plan to continue that

light trout Aug 9, 2019, 11:57 AM

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It was our summer I was talking about

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Then it would be nice beeing on the other side 😛

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 11:59 AM

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Hello from the other side

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https://i.redd.it/7cesvag1ycf31.jpg

hearty depot Aug 9, 2019, 12:57 PM

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http://linuxgizmos.com/10-1-inch-wuxga-panel-pc-runs-linux-or-android-on-an-i-mx8m/

LinuxGizmos.com

Eric Brown

10.1-inch WUXGA panel PC runs Linux or Android on an i.MX8M

Estone has launched a 10.1-inch, 1920 x 1200 “PPC-4310” touch-panel computer that runs Linux or Android on a quad -A53 i.MX8M with up to 4GB LPDDR4, WiFi/BT, and up to 2x GbE ports with PoE.

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That would be a nice smart in wall display

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Hell, I think it could even run HA

dull chasm Aug 9, 2019, 1:01 PM

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limited but yea and prolly costly and overkill

late gate Aug 9, 2019, 1:44 PM

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Hmm what would you guys say a fair price for a UniFi Switch 24 POE-250W is?

clever mortar Aug 9, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Here about £360 seems to be a good deal

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Does anyone have a NAS that they bought complete that they are particularly happy with? Or is it always better to just build your own?

hearty depot Aug 9, 2019, 3:18 PM

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I hate my 3 consumer NAS(Apple, D-Link WD)
but my HA server with regular samba works grate (not too fast thou..)

clever mortar Aug 9, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Synology and QNAP get good feedback from those I know

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 3:20 PM

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@unreal orbit I loved my qnap for years, but my self built itx freenas is a good upgrade, but replacing it now with a Dell R520 for expandability

clever mortar Aug 9, 2019, 3:21 PM

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The old ReadyNAS range was good, but I don't know anybody with a current model

slim ore Aug 9, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Villhelm Have a 8 disk QNAP ... still running smoothly 😃

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Thanks for the input, guys. I'm mostly just looking for something to run a plex server and nextcloud. Maybe 2tb of mirrored storage if that changes your opinions

slim ore Aug 9, 2019, 3:22 PM

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QNAP can do that

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Then I would recommend a 4bay self built freenas, the qnaps are very easy, but performance is meh

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And freenas has plugins for most stuff

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 3:23 PM

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I mean I'm only gonna have maybe 5 users, so performance doesn't need to be mind-blowing

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 3:24 PM

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No, but the lower end prebuilt ones are really low performance, and costly

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 3:24 PM

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I'm not opposed to putting in some work

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 3:24 PM

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I built the itx one for 50% of the price of a lower specced qnap

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 3:25 PM

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I like the idea of pre-builts but if it's that much of a cost difference then I think I'll just build my own and slap freenas on it

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 3:25 PM

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I paid 240£ with shipping for the case with psu+mobo with CPU and memory

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A similar qnap was £500

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I have since added more memory so I have 12gb instead of 8

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 3:26 PM

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Your performance was dipping that much to justify upgrading ram?

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I was thinking 8 would be plenty

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 3:27 PM

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It was when upgrading from 4x4tb to 4x10tb , zfs enjoys memory for caching

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And 8gb is minimum according to the community

slim ore Aug 9, 2019, 3:28 PM

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OpenmediaVault is also nice to run on a Homebuild

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Has lots of plugins too

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Yeah I won't have anything near that large for the drives. I think 4x1tb is what I'll probably end up with

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I'll check that out @slim ore thanks

slim ore Aug 9, 2019, 3:29 PM

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And a plex plugin also

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Now for the age old question of rack mount vs desktop

slim ore Aug 9, 2019, 3:29 PM

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and docker / virtualbox plugins

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 3:30 PM

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This is where I bought my itx stuff from

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https://www.mini-itx.com/

clever mortar Aug 9, 2019, 3:31 PM

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I've used them in the past - good selection of stuff

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Shipping cost to the US might not be worth it 😦

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 3:37 PM

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Btw, if you want to see the messiest website ever

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This guy had Norway's first post order catalogue, then moved to the internet

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http://arngren.net/

ATV, drone, elbil, elsykkel, rc helikopter, ATV, robot, elatv

elbil, elatv, el-atv, atv, robot, mercedes barn, elbil til barn, el-bil til barn, drone, elsykkel, el-sykkel, el scooter, elscooter, el-scooter, rc helikopter, rc bil, rc fly, rc produkter

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 3:38 PM

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Ouch

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my brain

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 3:40 PM

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I used to order from his catalogs in the early, mid 90s 😂

late gate Aug 9, 2019, 3:42 PM

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Using a Synology DS918+ with 4x 10GB drives and 2x 512 M2 SSD cache drives. Just for keeping it simple I find it a better solution than my old unraid setup

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Oh hardware raid is another thing I'd prefer

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but if I'm building my own that shouldn't be difficult to research

clever mortar Aug 9, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Hardware RAID is overrated

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I'd rather ZFS (or BTRFS) myself

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Hardware raid is nice, but I trust zfs pretty well right now, so the Dell i ordered im flashing the raid controller to hba mode

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So I can run zfs on all 12 drives

clever mortar Aug 9, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Yup, given a choice between data that you know is safe, or stuff that you're hoping isn't corrupt...

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 3:48 PM

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So you're saying you trust software RAID more than hardware?

late gate Aug 9, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Im not sure about others, but with todays download speed (1gb/s) here, I dont really need large raids anymore

clever mortar Aug 9, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Depends on what you're storing

late gate Aug 9, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Depends if ur a horder hehe

clever mortar Aug 9, 2019, 3:48 PM

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@unreal orbit Hardware RAID is software RAID running on a dedicated CPU

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With the old hardware, that made a massive difference. These days... not so much

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Well yeah, but adding some function separation seemed like a good idea to me

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Fair point

clever mortar Aug 9, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Makes it painful to recover if your card dies though

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Probably not such a big deal these days, but I've been there before

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I've never had issues recovering a software RAID if the system failed

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Yeah the case I'm currently looking at comes with a spare raid card. Which is.... not comforting

late gate Aug 9, 2019, 3:50 PM

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If anyone in norway im giving away a HP proliant 380 g7 if anyone wants it hehe

clever mortar Aug 9, 2019, 3:50 PM

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HBA+ZFS 😉

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 3:53 PM

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I have so many g7s in my garage, I need a gen8 or 9 😛

late gate Aug 9, 2019, 3:53 PM

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too sad you didnt say that earlier :p

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Got a rack full of severs and UPS im giving away

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 3:54 PM

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😂

late gate Aug 9, 2019, 3:57 PM

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lol got an offer of 1k for the unify switch bangs head towards the wall

hearty depot Aug 9, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Smart WLAN Steckdose 4er Pack, Gosund Alexa Steckdose Stromverbrauch

Amazon.de offer
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07B911Y6V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_txAtDbSWTFH6W

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4 for 29€ got already 14 ;)

midnight adder Aug 9, 2019, 4:59 PM

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picking up two more tuya plugs tomorrow at the postal office

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bringing the total count to uh

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seven

late gate Aug 9, 2019, 5:03 PM

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anyone know if a 800MA downstep (USB5V -> 3.3V) is enough for Webee CC2530 + CC2591?

unkempt umbra Aug 9, 2019, 5:07 PM

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ok, first things first. Awesome software.

unkempt umbra Aug 9, 2019, 5:35 PM

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taking my time to learn the ecosystem.

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and being stymied by alexa_media

boreal pewter Aug 9, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Has no sense IMO if I understand correctly

unkempt umbra Aug 9, 2019, 5:38 PM

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going to upgrade to.97 then take another swing at it.

clever mortar Aug 9, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Alexa media, from all the posts here, is just a pain

boreal pewter Aug 9, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Alexa media just plays media on a alexa device, correct? Therefor not sure if it has another use then maybe an alternative morning-alarm instead of a mobile phone

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Tho I would even chose another alternative for that

unkempt umbra Aug 9, 2019, 5:49 PM

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want to use it to announce things, maybe implement a grandfather clock

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voice output, as it were.

boreal pewter Aug 9, 2019, 5:50 PM

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That should work

unkempt umbra Aug 9, 2019, 5:51 PM

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using alexa for voice commands, and tracking states via Hass, so seems to make sense to respond to state changes verbally

light trout Aug 9, 2019, 8:22 PM

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@clear ferry whats the exsi top cmd?

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esxtop

clear ferry Aug 9, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Yes @light trout joyEyes

sage timber Aug 9, 2019, 8:54 PM

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I’m thinking of moving to the IKEA stuff for sockets etc and want to integrate them with HA what’s the easiest way to get the Zigbee setu? Is it worth buying the IKEA hub or can I buy one of these zigbee sticks and run it off that?

queen otter Aug 9, 2019, 9:42 PM

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I'm looking through an army of home automation open source software. How did you figure out which one you wanted?

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Essentially, why did you pick home assist?

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 9:44 PM

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An army? Aren't there only like 5?

queen otter Aug 9, 2019, 9:48 PM

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I found at least 12

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Though one has terrible english support

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Can you list them? I'm curious

light trout Aug 9, 2019, 9:48 PM

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I was fed up with IFTTT, and having multiple apps, Home Assistant was the first hit on Google for my search 🙈

queen otter Aug 9, 2019, 9:48 PM

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https://opensource.com/tools/home-automation

Opensource.com

6 open source home automation tools

With the Internet of Things rapidly expanding the number of connected devices in our homes, finding open source solutions for controlling them is increasingly important.

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 9:48 PM

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And now you use nothing 🤣

light trout Aug 9, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Shhhhh🤣

queen otter Aug 9, 2019, 9:49 PM

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I'm curious what features make home assist better then other ones

light trout Aug 9, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Probably None, better is subjective, they all probably do mostly the same just different

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Customizability, it is actively being developed, easy to setup and maintain, community support is good (usually teaching through sarcasm and pointing to the docs)

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And the amount of devices it handles

queen otter Aug 9, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Is there a feature to connect a high gain blue tooth antenna of some kind and run a simulated android app? Bascially I want to connect to a blue tooth device that is normally controlled through an android app.

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Depends on the device. Anything is possible, but only a handful of bluetooth devices are currently integrated

warped moss Aug 9, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Define "better" 😛

queen otter Aug 9, 2019, 9:54 PM

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oh, it has tile. https://www.home-assistant.io/components/tile/

Home Assistant

Tile

Instructions on how to use Tile to track devices in Home Assistant.

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doesn't say what having tile allows me to do though? Can i have home assist ping a tile?

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Is there a voice controlled application that does not go to the internet for translations. For example, something like google assist but ran in my server.

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no internet needed

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 9:58 PM

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That's a cloud based component, so it doesn't connect to the tiles directly.

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Though there are other methods for passively checking for bluetooth devices

velvet horizonBOT Aug 9, 2019, 10:00 PM

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As an alternative to HA built-in bluetooth tracking, the monitor script uses separate devices, usually Pi Zeroes, to track bluetooth devices.
It uses MQTT topics to relay device status messages to HA. See this forum thread for more.

queen otter Aug 9, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Was looking to connect to the device, not track it. Then tell the device to go off.

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I was also interested in voice control that does not need a server on the internet.

unreal orbit Aug 9, 2019, 10:25 PM

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There is a built-in voice assistant, but I have never used it and have no clue how it functions. You can dive into the component code if you want https://github.com/home-assistant/home-assistant/tree/dev/homeassistant/components/conversation

GitHub

home-assistant/home-assistant

:house_with_garden: Open source home automation that puts local control and privacy first - home-assistant/home-assistant

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Most people that want offline voice control use Snips

trail crag Aug 10, 2019, 1:08 AM

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"Hey it's 2019...I'll give GIMP another try"

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20 minutes later I want to jab a sharp pointy stick into my brain through my ear.

hushed basalt Aug 10, 2019, 1:12 AM

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@trail crag gimp is pain

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Photoshop for lyfe

eager trench Aug 10, 2019, 1:12 AM

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yeah it is horrible

hushed basalt Aug 10, 2019, 1:13 AM

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Don't say that in linux discord

trail crag Aug 10, 2019, 1:13 AM

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inkscape I can tolerate

hushed basalt Aug 10, 2019, 1:13 AM

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If I was running linux on my daily driver I'd be using windows in vm with gpu passthrough

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Windows as actually my favourite desktop OS atm. And I use windows, mac and linux every week

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I'd use linux before I'd use mac by choice though. Except for creative software support

trail crag Aug 10, 2019, 1:16 AM

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I wonder how adobe will fare now that generations of kids that might have had photoshop/illustrator/etc skills won't have them because they got so tight with the drm

hushed basalt Aug 10, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Yeah I grew up on 'aquired' photoshop

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14 year old me couldn't afford the four figures AUD just to play around

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I think adobe will be fine though. Schools will still need to buy seats if they want any decent cirriculum for digital media

trail crag Aug 10, 2019, 1:18 AM

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right? And now my 14 yr old knows krita and other things that I am marginally aware of

hushed basalt Aug 10, 2019, 1:18 AM

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I guess there's nothing good in open source photoshop though

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Just painting etc

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And lightroom equivalents

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Creative cloud is very cheap compared to the pain of using Gimp

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Plus if you're in the industry you have to use industry standard software

hushed basalt Aug 10, 2019, 4:13 AM

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Went to some home opens today

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Home ownership... Sooonnn

ocean mirage Aug 10, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Oh nice

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It can be a pain figuring out what you want and what you could live with

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knowing you it will have to be north facing and well insulated :)

hushed basalt Aug 10, 2019, 4:15 AM

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📎 enhanced-buzz-28895-1301694293-0.jpg

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It's north facing

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Nothing in Australia is well insulated

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I'd have to get real stuff put in. Spray foam would probably be the only viable way

ocean mirage Aug 10, 2019, 4:20 AM

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'Well' being relative

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We have batts in the ceiling. Lots of Canberra places have nothing

hushed basalt Aug 10, 2019, 4:35 AM

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I'll probably have to replace the roof

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It's not in great condition

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Definitely not worth putting solar panels on it before i replace it

clear ferry Aug 10, 2019, 4:57 AM

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Insulation in Australia? To keep the warmth out? 😂

ocean mirage Aug 10, 2019, 5:07 AM

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I mean... yes

hushed basalt Aug 10, 2019, 5:19 AM

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And the heat in

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2 degrees outdoors is still colder than most people want in their living rooms

clear ferry Aug 10, 2019, 6:12 AM

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It isn't 34 degrees all year? ThinkEyes

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How do the Chlamydia infested koalas survive?

ocean mirage Aug 10, 2019, 6:54 AM

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Too dumb to die

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We get minus temperatures here but I am not sure I've seen a koala in my town

clear ferry Aug 10, 2019, 8:21 AM

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I should buy this adapter

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https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/cobk8s/pulled_statistics_from_the_home_electrical_power/

r/homeassistant - Pulled statistics from the Home Electrical Power...

58 votes and 10 comments so far on Reddit

midnight adder Aug 10, 2019, 8:59 AM

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Just asking. Is this american thing to do?

orchid rose Aug 10, 2019, 8:59 AM

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is what?

midnight adder Aug 10, 2019, 8:59 AM

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https://m.facebook.com/groups/270426516427834?view=permalink&id=1571387306331742&sfnsn=mo

Evan Hermawan

▶ Play video

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📎 FB_IMG_1565426749912.jpg

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I can chat freely here right?

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I mean this channel purpose is general?

orchid rose Aug 10, 2019, 9:00 AM

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Mostly for random chat yeah. Topic does say to keep civil and not talk about politics or religion though

midnight adder Aug 10, 2019, 9:00 AM

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This was in Bali, Indonesia

orchid rose Aug 10, 2019, 9:02 AM

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What are these guys trying to accomplish?

midnight adder Aug 10, 2019, 9:02 AM

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Actually he was drink alcohol and get drunk

vast dove Aug 10, 2019, 9:02 AM

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Whats your point? There are retards all over the world.

midnight adder Aug 10, 2019, 9:07 AM

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Just share for fun. Dont mind me

vast dove Aug 10, 2019, 9:07 AM

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No worries, just dont see why it should be "the american thing to do"

clear ferry Aug 10, 2019, 9:22 AM

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🤔

late gate Aug 10, 2019, 2:08 PM

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Is it me, or is the CC2530 instructions overcomplicated when coming to driving it? I would say a more plug and play method is how I did it, but not sure why the official instructions so it with solder 220v etc?

📎 IMG_0355.jpg

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Gave good results in conbee at least

📎 conbeerouter.PNG

valid halo Aug 10, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Good news Everyone

boreal pewter Aug 10, 2019, 3:01 PM

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You send each of us 1000 bucks?

valid halo Aug 10, 2019, 3:02 PM

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I have my first computer job. It's a contract thing for 2 months where I make 24 bucks a n hour.

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Sorry Anon. I'm not making that many fat stacks

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😦

boreal pewter Aug 10, 2019, 3:02 PM

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24 bucks without taxes?

valid halo Aug 10, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Well that's before taxes

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and since I'm an "independent contractor" I get to do the taxes math myself

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\o/

boreal pewter Aug 10, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Depending on the country, for germany that would already be good

valid halo Aug 10, 2019, 3:04 PM

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Well my previous salary while working part time at an office supply store was 9.50 an hour

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so I'm P happy

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experience and monay

clear ferry Aug 10, 2019, 3:05 PM

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American saleries ThinkEyes

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I remember my first full time job, working in a grocery store 20 years ago, $15 per hour plus extras

clever mortar Aug 10, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Hourly pay... strange concept 😛

clear ferry Aug 10, 2019, 3:18 PM

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Yeah, I haven't had that in 20 years 😂

boreal pewter Aug 10, 2019, 3:23 PM

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But knowing your pay per hour doesn't mean you get paid per hour

clear ferry Aug 10, 2019, 3:28 PM

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My current would be 43 i think, but with extras closer to 67 🤔

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What in... French cars

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https://i.redd.it/pmbc5apkyif31.jpg

valid halo Aug 10, 2019, 3:34 PM

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From the phone talks I've had and the paper work. It looks Iike I'm paid hourly

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lame.

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So if I want to get paid like a normal employee. They charge a fee for processing it quickly. OR I can wait until it's been 30 days since and then get my money. as far as I understand it.

clear ferry Aug 10, 2019, 3:45 PM

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ThinkEyes

valid halo Aug 10, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Yeah.

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Well the important thing is I'll have experience

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That's what I'm really after.

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a friend of mine works with the same company at the client I'm working at. So at least I'll have someone to commiserate with

clear ferry Aug 10, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Experience is key for most businesses

valid halo Aug 10, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Yeah. If I make it long enough I can get an entry level job