#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 365

hearty depot Jul 9, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Time for magic smoke

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unreal orbit Jul 9, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Those wire nuts are life changing. I will always spend the extra money to get those if I'm planning anything with electronics

orchid rose Jul 9, 2019, 3:05 PM

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never heard of those, gotta get myself some

unreal orbit Jul 9, 2019, 3:06 PM

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They're called Wago lever-nuts if you wanted to find them

orchid rose Jul 9, 2019, 3:09 PM

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thanks

hearty depot Jul 9, 2019, 3:22 PM

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fu.. No smart switches for me - the seccond switch underneath reads 230v with a multimeter.. but I get only a wired clickering..
not a healty sound 🤷

low harness Jul 9, 2019, 4:48 PM

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Yeah. Lever-wagos are awesome!

hearty depot Jul 9, 2019, 7:10 PM

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http://bash.org/?926695

clear ferry Jul 9, 2019, 8:59 PM

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My new HA setup is sick

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https://i.redd.it/jahhk1la3b931.png

orchid rose Jul 9, 2019, 9:05 PM

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That would have been the coolest shit in the 90s. Still pretty cool today, ngl

midnight adder Jul 9, 2019, 9:18 PM

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hi everybody! doas anybody know if https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32888117548.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000014.3.2c9c13b2W14KEU&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.13338.136569.000000000000000&scm_id=1007.13338.136569.000000000000000&scm-url=1007.13338.136569.000000000000000&pvid=c35e3ead-b9ea-4724-84cc-61b0890a4ca6 works with a tasmoted sonoff rf and therefor with ha? or does someone have a nice tipp with emergency button for my gramma is best?

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hushed basalt Jul 9, 2019, 10:28 PM

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@clear ferry I think it depends on the rss backend

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Those query parameters just get passed along to the webserver afaik. It's up to them if they do anything with it or not

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https://framagit.org/Erase/RSS-Fusion-Demo

GitLab

Erase / RSS-Fusion-Demo

Démo de RSS-Fusion

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This might do what you want. Although I don't speak French

hushed basalt Jul 10, 2019, 2:39 AM

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One of our cheaper sets of lenses

dreamy schooner Jul 10, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Hey anyone have any idea how I can display upcoming google calendar events in a list, the google calendar integration seems to only look at the next event

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Trying to get a nice agenda for my front end

pure vine Jul 10, 2019, 4:15 AM

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@dreamy schooner wrong channel please read the topics

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Try in #frontend-archived

dreamy schooner Jul 10, 2019, 4:18 AM

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Oh I just figured since I was asking for suggestions not support 😅

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I’m new to discord lol

hearty depot Jul 10, 2019, 11:28 AM

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Just opend my WD Elements 8tb external HDD
WD80EMAZ
I think I did not win in the WD lottery

ocean mirage Jul 10, 2019, 11:33 AM

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There is no losing, those are still good drives afaik

hearty depot Jul 10, 2019, 11:34 AM

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jsut googleing WD Reds are preferred since they function better in a RAID because of TLER
just checking with smartctl

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SCT Error Recovery Control:
           Read:     70 (7.0 seconds)
          Write:     70 (7.0 seconds)

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they seem to support TLER

ocean mirage Jul 10, 2019, 11:37 AM

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As far as I know they are basically reds still

hearty depot Jul 10, 2019, 11:37 AM

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wont use them in RAID aynway - only bummer is that I have to move them out of the chasing into another one T_T

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eww.. already hearing HDD clickering

ocean mirage Jul 10, 2019, 11:40 AM

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lol

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Some people seem very sensitive to that

hearty depot Jul 10, 2019, 11:41 AM

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still having nightmares

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ssd's are something very awesome

ocean mirage Jul 10, 2019, 11:44 AM

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Yeah, but for this type of storage, as you know, HDD is still king

hearty depot Jul 10, 2019, 11:48 AM

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just read that ssd will loose their data after 4 years without power

ocean mirage Jul 10, 2019, 11:49 AM

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oh no, you dont want loose data ;)

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 12:17 PM

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I haven't grabbed the WD because of way too many reports of failure within 2 years, also they're in deal like once every month and that is bit too suspicious. I took a Seagate

ocean mirage Jul 10, 2019, 12:23 PM

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I’ve never heard that but anything either way is anecdotal

orchid rose Jul 10, 2019, 12:33 PM

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the helium drives seem to be extremely loud compared to smaller drives that I used to have. The 2TB Samsung I have is almost impossible to hear when suspended with rubber bands

ocean mirage Jul 10, 2019, 12:45 PM

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I can’t say I’ve really noticed over fans tbh

hushed basalt Jul 10, 2019, 12:46 PM

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My 2TB samsung drive died a long time ago

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Samsung weren't known for their hard drives that's for sure

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 12:48 PM

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Samsung isn't known for anything good anymore anyway

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Oh wait the SSD's are good

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The End

ocean mirage Jul 10, 2019, 12:55 PM

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Not making memory anymore?

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My Samsung 3TB external has lived far longer than it has any right to

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Is anyone using one of these Lenovo smart tablets? It looks very slick, just wondering if there are any hidden caveats

velvet horizonBOT Jul 10, 2019, 2:40 PM

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@hearty depot posted a message that is too long, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PWnks2KvF4/

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 3:16 PM

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@boreal pewter I've been running wd for the last 12 years, a single failure over 20 drives and 24/7 power and usage

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@hearty depot the emaz are good afaik, I have 4 x10tb of those from shucking external drives a few days ago

hearty depot Jul 10, 2019, 3:19 PM

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the cases ar'nt 😅 still fighting with does not start on physical sector boundary. stupid emulation I guess

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 3:22 PM

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The emaz are just reds with different firmware as far as I found out

hearty depot Jul 10, 2019, 3:22 PM

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mhmm.. overwriting firmware ? 🤣

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Now that I have venv and hassio, and native ha on my Chromebook, I should try out running in a freenas jail and try HP-UX also

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manic scientist laughter

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Try android and ios 😉

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:02 PM

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Python 2.7 is the latest I could find for hpux though ThonkEyes

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:02 PM

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build it yourself 😉

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:02 PM

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On Itanium? Maybe 😛

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I'll give it a go just for laughs when I have time

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Openvms is also 2.7 ThonkEyes

hearty depot Jul 10, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Read about HA+NodeRED on an android phone 🤣 that works actually
been at least a year

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:07 PM

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@clear ferry nice, as said it just turned me off. 1/3 of Amazon reviews in my country are failures after x months

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Bad luck I guess 🤷 I've had 1 drive failure in 18 years, total probably 60 drives or something

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:08 PM

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But anyway I need a new car 😦

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:09 PM

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You could have bought my old Audi A8L, but it is too late ! excellent

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:09 PM

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I have only had one bad HDD fail so far, that was the day I started with backups 😛

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Not gonna take an A8 😛

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:10 PM

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A8L! cuLol

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:10 PM

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I just sat in an BMW 1, X2 and X4 and overall I'm undecided 😄

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:10 PM

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All are shite imo 😛

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Go for a Troll

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Troll riding? 😄

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Economy class..

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Only BMWs I would consider are X5, 8series or 7series 😛

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:11 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(automobile)

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:11 PM

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omg jeez

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Honestly the X4 is appearing HUGE considering it's 4,7m length. Even my old 728i from 1996 was almost 5m

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And that thing is just fkn huge

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:12 PM

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My A8L was 5.2 if memory serves right

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I bought my wife a Tiguan last year, I wanted a touareg,but she wanted to drive it too 😂

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:13 PM

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I'm living in a big town where parking spare is pretty rare but I not gonna get an Opel Corsa just bcz of that

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:14 PM

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I tried parking in a regular parking spot with the Audi once, my back tires weren't even inside the square MonkaSadRain

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:14 PM

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lul people at the shopping mall loved you

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:15 PM

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But I could fit atleast 20 Thai women in the trunk 🤷

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Oh "shopping" I c

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:15 PM

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And two ice giants in the back seat

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:15 PM

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That's a pretty specific number that I doubt is purely hypothetical now 🤔

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:15 PM

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What? You don't have 20 thai women laying around?

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Poor u

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:16 PM

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https://www.finn.no/127271114

FINN.no

Audi A8

Legges ut på nytt da forrige kjøper aldri dukket opp. Bilen har stått i garasje siden i fjor sommer, var i daglig drift fram til da. Ikke EU-godkjent, anbefaler hentet på bilhenger, bil står på sommerdekk. Audi A8L selges som repobjekt \ delebil grunnet familieforøkels...

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Check the picture of the legroom

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Let me check the price

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:17 PM

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With the seat all the way forward

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:17 PM

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lol 2223,10€

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Yeah, I bought it for 60.000 nok, owned it for 4 years and repaired it for 110.000nok roughly, and sold it for that price as a repair object, but I drove it 75k km in 3 years 😛

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Nice

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Had to order bushings from Sibir, because Audi had stopped producing them

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Can recommend these guys

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https://siberianbushing.com/

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Couldn't even clean the dashboard off for the pictures 🤣

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:22 PM

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But in the background you see again why the countries over there are considered beautiful

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:22 PM

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"grunnet familieforøkelse." that's what you are calling HA now? 😛

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:23 PM

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@light trout it's a kind of child 🤷

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:23 PM

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it is 😛

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:23 PM

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My baby is "Roby" how I call my Xiaomi Roborock

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:24 PM

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If I spend as much time with my future child as I do working on my home automations our child will have all the attention they could ever want

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Issue with that is that you can't stop or revert back to last know working state

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Just nuke the whole thing and get a new one

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Oh I could bring in some bad humor

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:26 PM

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Ali have those?

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:26 PM

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Is there good humor in this channel? Must have missed it... 😉

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:26 PM

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I usually have my baby on my lap while working with ha, both get equal attention 😛

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And I bring her with me when I install sensors and switches

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She even supervised when I made my custom IKEA tradfri lights

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Perfect for testing if the breaker is off

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:27 PM

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oooooh pretty lights 😄

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:27 PM

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So you got your own debugging-roboter-KI which is testing your sensors 😄

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:28 PM

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She tests the humidity ones by chewing on them 🤷

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:28 PM

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That is a great durability test

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:29 PM

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speaking of IKEA, when are the smart blinds ariving?

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Late summer I believe was what they were estimating

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:29 PM

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which year?

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:29 PM

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I want the speakers now

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Optimistically? This year 😉

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October 1st is the actual date they have given

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Have no need for them in october... I need them now.. NOW!

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:30 PM

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But you'll also need them in October 😄

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Move North of the Arctic circle, then you don't need them at all in winter

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:31 PM

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tempting

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:31 PM

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They're going to release them right when most people won't really need them

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Especially their core demographic

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:31 PM

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I used to live in Harstad, nice place 😛

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Shitehole

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I lived there for 2 years

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But I might move back if I get that job in Houston

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:32 PM

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I don't think I'd last in a place with no daylight

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:32 PM

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I would love that

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:33 PM

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@unreal orbit the perpetual darkness is soothing, the perpetual sunlight is not

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Soothing? Or a reminder of the eternal dark abyss that we are inevitably heading toward?

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I guess it could be both

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:34 PM

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I prefer it, then I can decide the amount of light

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If you haven't seen the movie insomnia I recommend it, the us remake is ok, but the Norwegian original is amazing, and filmed in my hometown

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Subtitles translate well enough?

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Probably, haven't seen it with subtitles

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If not @light trout can live translate

light trout Jul 10, 2019, 4:38 PM

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HARD pass

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:38 PM

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I sense I discord movie night coming up 😉

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:39 PM

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26 degree outside still 😄

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Dang, I only see green like that a few days out of the year here

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Most of may to early September here

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 4:40 PM

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The only green here is stuff on my table to smoke

unreal orbit Jul 10, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Por que no los dos?

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 4:44 PM

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DOS6.22?

last plaza Jul 10, 2019, 5:02 PM

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☝ for a second, I thought it was Windows XP wallpaper!

clear ferry Jul 10, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Did you hear the startup sound in your head @last plaza ? 🤓

last plaza Jul 10, 2019, 5:04 PM

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almost 😂

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Isn't that your ringtone?

last plaza Jul 10, 2019, 7:32 PM

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I use iPhone, and those apple idiots don't let you have custom ring tones that easily. They are a pain in the rear!

boreal pewter Jul 10, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Getting an XS Max for work and maybe I switch to it privately as well

hearty depot Jul 10, 2019, 8:32 PM

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https://zombsroyale.io/
having way to much fun

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strange vapor Jul 10, 2019, 10:01 PM

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https://github.com/ikamensh/flynt

GitHub

ikamensh/flynt

A tool to automatically convert old string literal formatting to f-strings - ikamensh/flynt

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So very handy.

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 7:53 AM

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now that is strange, today my google home mini just says "I can't do that here, but you can ask me to play on one of your other devices" when I ask it to play something from spotify

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never happened before

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https://open.spotify.com/track/5QBvhBn1dWLyonUUvwjiRe?si=ryL2x2q0ScC6I1M0KDKFtA

Spotify

Hävisin lotossa taas

Hävisin lotossa taas, a song by Eläkeläiset on Spotify

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Finnish people make weird music

hearty depot Jul 11, 2019, 8:02 AM

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2 days ago it refused to work completley - something like i cant do that at the moment try it in a few secconds again

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 8:03 AM

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A band that specialises in covering songs in Ompa-style

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 8:19 AM

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@light trout is so silent, one could almost suspect he's actually busy at his dayjob 🤔 could it be ? 🤔

light trout Jul 11, 2019, 8:20 AM

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yeah...

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 8:20 AM

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I'll come over with some ☕ and 🥖 for you

light trout Jul 11, 2019, 8:21 AM

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Sounds good 👍

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 8:41 AM

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nice, maybe I can reuse my 10y old qnap as a HA-server

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You can install debian directly on the box if you want

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Still have 3.97TB to move from it to my new nas though MonkaSadRain

orchid rose Jul 11, 2019, 8:46 AM

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The song is about "Losing at lottery again"

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 8:49 AM

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@orchid rose yeah, but all their songs are covers I think ? right ? 🤣

orchid rose Jul 11, 2019, 8:49 AM

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The band makes (somewhat) parody songs in a genre called humppa

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most atleast

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 8:51 AM

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https://open.spotify.com/track/5esJb63Nbi1LeG0v4NyKTt?si=MjJ_VhNWSV-y6d3MbA4ESA

Spotify

Matkustaja

Matkustaja, a song by Egotrippi on Spotify

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Probably my favorite finnish song

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Even though I don't understand finnish, but I know the meaning, and the music is more important than the lyrics anyway 🤣

orchid rose Jul 11, 2019, 8:54 AM

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you probably listen to more finnish music than I do 😄

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 8:54 AM

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I'm a weirdo ok ? 🤷

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I also played wow with a finnish guild for... 7 years

orchid rose Jul 11, 2019, 8:56 AM

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so I'm sure all the curse words are familiar now

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 8:58 AM

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and some bad pickup lines

orchid rose Jul 11, 2019, 8:59 AM

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what use do wow players have for those? 🤔

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 9:00 AM

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picking up older men pretending to be younger girls of course 🤷

orchid rose Jul 11, 2019, 9:00 AM

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ah, right

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 9:00 AM

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the internet, where men are men, women are men and little girls are fbi agents

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hooray, they wife got accepted to a masters degree in information security, I think she is going to make more money than me 🤣

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 10:04 AM

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does anyone here use routines with google home ?

orchid rose Jul 11, 2019, 10:06 AM

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Now you can retire then 😉

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I use the Good Night routine, but I'm looking for ways to automate that as well now that my bed occupancy sensor works

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 10:10 AM

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hmmm I can't get any routines to work, if I create a new one she just says "can't help you with that" and if I try to use any of the built in ones she doesn't actually do anything that they are configure d to do 🤔

orchid rose Jul 11, 2019, 10:29 AM

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weird, I've had no issues myself

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other than that they are pretty limited on what you can do

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 10:58 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM5By4CmVxw ooof I wish I was this good

YouTube

Cédric Vielvoye

Transatlantic - Evermore - Bass Cover

This is my bass cover of Evermore by Transatlantic on the fantastic album "The Whirlwind". Great bass line by Pete Trewavas. Hope you'll like it! Gear used :...

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junior forge Jul 11, 2019, 12:18 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV4nc2PuD8g

YouTube

ZeverMusic

Gestapo Knallmuzik - Claudia Schwiffer [Öfficial Muzik Video]

Ein Zevermusic Produktzion. Kast: Claudia Schwiffer: Izabel Pëeters Dansereszen: Biänca Zuenëli, Bërta Förnell Serrät, Aki Iwämoto, Alëxa Moya Panksëp Belich...

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clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 12:45 PM

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why must dutch musik be so weird

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no wait

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this is german

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🤣

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it looked like a dutch band I saw a few years ago

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LOL I just chose to "close all other tabs than this one" in firefox

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and it asked me "do you want to close 291 tabs"

gloomy canyon Jul 11, 2019, 12:56 PM

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wtf

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but it's not german

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 12:57 PM

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it's not ?

gloomy canyon Jul 11, 2019, 12:57 PM

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some words are

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but I can't understand it at all

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 12:58 PM

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is it sweitsergerman

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or whaterver it is called

hearty depot Jul 11, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Sitzerdeutsch

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or schwitzerdutsch

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 1:02 PM

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toiley

junior forge Jul 11, 2019, 1:06 PM

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Actually

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it is not a language

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it is a bad mixup between dutch and german

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referring to Dutch people trying to do German, but fail at it

strange vapor Jul 11, 2019, 1:07 PM

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@junior forge That video reminds me of the "Last Friday Night". This is not a good thing

junior forge Jul 11, 2019, 1:07 PM

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so it sounds german, but is dutch

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hahah @strange vapor 😂

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To make matters worse, it is a Belgium band, so actually it is Flamisch with a weird German accent and some german words.

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 1:08 PM

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Stupid Flanders !

strange vapor Jul 11, 2019, 1:08 PM

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Last Friday Night wins for the epic sax solo from Kenny G 😃

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 1:09 PM

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marge

boreal pewter Jul 11, 2019, 1:09 PM

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Dutch is anyway stolen from German so they actually speak retarded-german all day anyway

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Funny tho I was just quickly in the netherlands like 2 weeks ago because I was checking a car in the near and did some shopping. Eventhough they have no unlimited speed roads as we germans do have, up to 100Km/h they drive crazier than we do

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 1:11 PM

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I think germany is the only european country that has that

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Norway has a max of 110, sweden of 130 afaik

junior forge Jul 11, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Another one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V64vWQMDKjM

YouTube

Studio Brussel

The Tunnel — Gestapo Knallmuzik - Heel die Tag Pörno (live)

Gestapo Knallmuzik performing 'Heel die Tag Pörno', live at Studio Brussel in Belgium on March 21th, 2019. // SUBSCRIBE: http://bit.ly/stubruscribe http://ww...

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boreal pewter Jul 11, 2019, 1:11 PM

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At least one thing our politic does right lol

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 1:12 PM

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I usually end up doing 130-150 anyway, because I work at night and the roads are empty 🤣

boreal pewter Jul 11, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Honestly if I couldn't head with 220km/h from cologne to Erfurt which is almost 400km and like half of it is unlimited I would really miss something and probably get 3 tickets per tour

strange vapor Jul 11, 2019, 1:13 PM

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For some reason Youtube just suggested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLrnkK2YEcE to me. There's a blast from the past.

YouTube

XL Recordings

The Avalanches - 'Frontier Psychiatrist'

The video for The Avalanches 'Frontier Psychiatrist' directed by Kuntz and Macquire

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clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 1:14 PM

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Meh, I drive 30-40.000km per year, the norwegian speed limits are enough for me, because the country isn't flat or square like those stupid eurocountries 🤣

boreal pewter Jul 11, 2019, 1:15 PM

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Luckily I don't have to drive that much anymore. I used to work in the next big town so 100km per day, that way I had to calculate up to 500€ fuel per month

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 1:16 PM

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yeah, I'm glad I have all gas, tollbooths and food included at work 🤣

hearty depot Jul 11, 2019, 1:34 PM

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Why is my network so slow 😦
300gb movies and pictures from my cameras with roughly 3mb/s I hate this timecapsule

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 1:38 PM

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lol 3MBps

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what is this ? USBsticks from 1999 ?

hearty depot Jul 11, 2019, 1:39 PM

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https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.instructables.com%2FF4C%2FXVTP%2FG5KPALJ4%2FF4CXVTPG5KPALJ4.RECT2100.jpg&f=1

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 1:39 PM

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Apple product, burn it 🔥

hearty depot Jul 11, 2019, 1:39 PM

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I ll.. after I get my data out of it

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or maybe selling 🤔 there are more then enough apple nuts out there

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 1:40 PM

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say steve jobs touched it once

hearty depot Jul 11, 2019, 1:40 PM

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its actually working better then the D-link share center I got 🤣

strange vapor Jul 11, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Have found no decent "prosumer" NASs

hearty depot Jul 11, 2019, 1:41 PM

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prosumer.. I like that

strange vapor Jul 11, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Running a HP Microserver with lots of spinning rust 😄

hearty depot Jul 11, 2019, 1:44 PM

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I'm way happyer with an Raspberry pi or any other linux host I can configure then all the other stuff I had

boreal pewter Jul 11, 2019, 1:47 PM

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I get the Apple products thrown at me from work. MacBook Pro 1TB, 16GB RAM and i7, next is the iPhone xs max 256GB 👌

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 1:53 PM

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@strange vapor I'm loving freenas after starting to use it late last year

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so I ordred a 12 bay dell server from the US to expand since my current box only has 4 bays 🤣

hearty depot Jul 11, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Btw - how you feed your plex service?

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 1:54 PM

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via freenas

hearty depot Jul 11, 2019, 1:54 PM

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then an fstab?

light trout Jul 11, 2019, 1:54 PM

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don't feed it after dark

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 1:54 PM

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plex is running as a iocage on freenas, I just mount the shares where the files are directly to the iocage

hearty depot Jul 11, 2019, 1:55 PM

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next thing to look up 😹

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 1:55 PM

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think of it as a docker, just for bsd 🤷

hearty depot Jul 11, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Someone got an tip for me how I get read, write or mount user folders to an container? I try to use the linuxserver nextcloud container with a docker-compose - but I got something wrong there

strange vapor Jul 11, 2019, 2:07 PM

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@clear ferry For what I'm doing, a simple Debain install providing NFS and Samba works grand.

hearty depot Jul 11, 2019, 3:00 PM

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aww - new comand to run on this apple product of hell
badblocks -b 512 -wsv /dev/sd1

hushed basalt Jul 11, 2019, 3:08 PM

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I've been going next level on docker

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Writing my own dockerfiles for my own apps

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I like docker. It's elegant

strange vapor Jul 11, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Once you keep it simple, it's great! Main issue I've seen with it is old school devs who don't understand the simple part.

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I honestly wish I was joking, but I came across a Docker image which during build just ran yumdownloader to pull down a whole heap of rpms and leave them there. Then on boot, it would us rpm with the rpmdb set to /dev/null to install them in a certain order, some of them overwriting the files of the others.

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When asked a very very incredulous "Why?!" it turned out that there was something in the %post script that depended on a variable in a single file which was being supplied when the docker instane booted.

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Wtf

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Why do these people still have jobs, replace them with shell scripts 😛

strange vapor Jul 11, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Their Chef job followed the same logic, which as it turned out had been migrated from a system called Bladelogic.

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Mostly fixed now, but took a while

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They now deploy a single RPM with a proper config file and no %post

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About 5% of the size of the pervious monstrousities.

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 4:15 PM

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This is me every time I try to remember the name of the IKEA smart blinds

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https://i.redd.it/5uc2pqylxn931.jpg

orchid rose Jul 11, 2019, 4:16 PM

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As norwegian, you basically speak the same language 🤔

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Well, you should hear me trying to remember what it is called while discussing with the wife

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Sounds like I'm reciting an Icelandic Saga , or calling forth cthuluh 😞

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Fjötur? Rathur? Farthär? Fhürtha?

low harness Jul 11, 2019, 5:14 PM

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As a swede, I don’t quite get that particular one either...

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 5:18 PM

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@low harness does that mean you might not be a swede ThonkEyes

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Surprise Finnish!

low harness Jul 11, 2019, 5:19 PM

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Perkele! You’re on to me!

clear ferry Jul 11, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Hyvä perse!

orchid rose Jul 11, 2019, 6:04 PM

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hey now, it's post-#metoo world, that's not cool anymore!

strange vapor Jul 11, 2019, 6:19 PM

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https://twitter.com/oscaron/status/1149300261036449795?s=19

Oscaron ☕ 🧐 (@oscaron)

Hmmm... Droppin packets again https://t.co/8BrPByKY7E

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hearty depot Jul 11, 2019, 6:36 PM

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is this a ~~glass fiber~~ connection over a wet cord?

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https://www.revk.uk/2017/12/its-official-adsl-works-over-wet-string.html

It's official, ADSL works over wet string

Broadband services are a wonderful innovation of our time, using multiple frequency bands (hence the name) to carry signals over wires (us...

quiet ridge Jul 11, 2019, 6:56 PM

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I shouldnt be surprised that my PR actually worked in my main setup (sending images w/ twilio), but it does 🎉

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mossy badge Jul 12, 2019, 6:22 AM

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So im trying to run du -h --max-depth=1 to figure out what takes up space, but I can’t seem to find what is taking up almost 90% of my main drive. Anyone know any methods?

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I have tried many different commands but I just don’t understand what is taking up almost 400g

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Largest I get with command above is 11g which is the VAR folder

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 6:24 AM

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What is the output of df -h ?

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And du -a | sort -n -r | head -n 5

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If you are standing in /

mossy badge Jul 12, 2019, 6:30 AM

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dev/nvme0n1p2 457G 33G 402G 8% /

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Strange

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Now it worked

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 6:30 AM

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So only 8% used 😛

mossy badge Jul 12, 2019, 6:30 AM

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Maybe it was related to the snapshot trying to backup also share folder

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Always help to ask:)

hearty depot Jul 12, 2019, 9:40 AM

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best filesystem for Windows/Hippie/Hipster OS?
NTFS or rather exFAT?

orchid rose Jul 12, 2019, 9:42 AM

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does it make any difference in SSD era anyway?

hearty depot Jul 12, 2019, 9:43 AM

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well. Windows wont take my ext4 drives wich I actually use now almost everywhere

orchid rose Jul 12, 2019, 9:44 AM

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well ntfs works fine, so I'd just go with that

hearty depot Jul 12, 2019, 9:46 AM

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formated one drive already this way - but I dont know much bout the filesystems

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 9:46 AM

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Fat32 unless you need big files

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Works everywhere

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Or just do network sharing

hearty depot Jul 12, 2019, 9:47 AM

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Tryed to set up nextcloud - failed somehow xD

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 9:47 AM

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NTFS is..
Meh for anything else than windows, but it "works" in most other os

orchid rose Jul 12, 2019, 9:47 AM

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4GB limit is pretty limiting nowadays though. NTFS is pretty well supported as well nowadays

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 9:47 AM

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SMB 4 lyfe

hearty depot Jul 12, 2019, 9:49 AM

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nay to fat32 - many videos I shoot having around 10 gig - 4k is stupid

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 9:49 AM

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Then do network sharing, or internet sharing

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I use owncloud for sharing with family and friends

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Locally everything I have communicates via SMB

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I use owncloud for sharing with family and friends

hearty depot Jul 12, 2019, 9:51 AM

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I just clean up all my older drives - thanks to the new 8TiB WD - thats how I come to the idea formating the old drives

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 9:51 AM

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I find usb drives too unreliable, and the limitations of cross supported filesystems flaky at best

orchid rose Jul 12, 2019, 9:52 AM

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network drives can be very useful, but if you want internal drives and need windows, just use ntfs

hearty depot Jul 12, 2019, 9:52 AM

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(here i stand in the rain.. running all my cool stuff from an old macbook with only USB2.1)

orchid rose Jul 12, 2019, 9:54 AM

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I'm a bit worried about the external WD I bought. It runs much hotter than I'm used to with a properly cooled PC. I've had no disk issues even with a WD green that isn't supposed to be used like I use it. The constanly parking head (or something?) was many multiples over the specced number when I checked a year or two ago

hearty depot Jul 12, 2019, 9:55 AM

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deam - its realy a little warm (35° at least)

orchid rose Jul 12, 2019, 9:56 AM

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I don't know how to check the temperature of the external drive, but the internals have maxed at 32C

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 10:04 AM

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my 10tb ones are 48c right now

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still copying 24\7 from old nas

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let me check my 4TB ones in the qnap also

orchid rose Jul 12, 2019, 10:05 AM

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from my experience the temperature makes a massive difference to the life of these drives, but it's only based on a few disks so it could be just random variation

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my WD green has 6 years of power on time now. 1.2 million load/unload cycles

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 10:07 AM

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so tests online show that they usually run 10-20 degrees above ambient temperature, and my garage is 25c atm, so 35-45 is normal it seems

orchid rose Jul 12, 2019, 10:07 AM

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that's what I was afraid of... That seems rather high

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 10:09 AM

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4tb drives are running at 36c

orchid rose Jul 12, 2019, 10:10 AM

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in comparison to the WD with 1.2 million load/unload, my 8½ year-old Samsung drive has 5889 cycles...

hearty depot Jul 12, 2019, 10:13 AM

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cool - not even remotly finished - but already having 16 bad sectors on this old drive

orchid rose Jul 12, 2019, 10:15 AM

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that drive probably won't survive much longer then 😛

hearty depot Jul 12, 2019, 10:16 AM

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🙈 eeh - what used to be my best drive

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like... 10 15 years ago

orchid rose Jul 12, 2019, 10:17 AM

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how large is it even if it's that old?

hearty depot Jul 12, 2019, 10:18 AM

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1.3 TB - I dont know for shure - but feels like it

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that thing was huuuuuge back then

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must have been around 2007 - befor I got my first APPLE nas 🤣
aaahhh... I hope that thing ll nurn in hardware hell

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 10:23 AM

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I remember my 20MB drive 🤣

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But I'm not very worried about the temperatures here either, one drive has failed for me in this house, and the temps are the same every year 🤷

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my storage has always been in my garage

orchid rose Jul 12, 2019, 10:27 AM

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my fear is only based on a feeling, not really statistics or anything scientific

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https://www.backblaze.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/chart-cost-per-gb-2017.jpg

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interesting graph. Couldn't find a more recent one unfortunately

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 10:33 AM

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last time I had a HDD failure I sent WD the serial number and a smart report

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got a new in the mail, didn't have to return the old one

orchid rose Jul 12, 2019, 10:38 AM

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that's pretty cool. How long are the guarantees for these? 1 or 2 years?

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 10:38 AM

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from a google study

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The figure shows that failures do not increase when the average temperature increases. In fact, there is a clear trend showing that lower temperatures are associated with higher failure rates. Only at very high temperatures is there a slight reversal of this trend.

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2 years for all drives I have owned

hearty depot Jul 12, 2019, 10:38 AM

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*fastly gooleing how to pull smart reports

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 10:39 AM

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http://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/en//archive/disk_failures.pdf

strange vapor Jul 12, 2019, 10:39 AM

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@hearty depot Take the HD out, open it up, and there's a tiny little thermal printer next to the SATA port which prints it out...

orchid rose Jul 12, 2019, 10:39 AM

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That study is pretty old. Not sure why that would change anything though

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 10:40 AM

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It won't

hearty depot Jul 12, 2019, 10:40 AM

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instructions unclear.. stuck in HDD with penis

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 10:41 AM

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I've seen the same thing at work, huge SANs with 400+ drives, if the cooling stops I hardly see failures go up

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but if the drives are too close to the floor, those drives will fail more

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there were even some firmwares that caused drives under 20c to go into write through mode

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and disable cache

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so I strongly advise my customers against having perforated floors in front of SANs

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reminds me about the screaming at the SAN video, let's see if I can find it

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4

YouTube

Bryan Cantrill

Shouting in the Datacenter

Brendan Gregg from Sun's Fishworks team makes an interesting discovery about inducing disk latency. For more details, see Brendan's blog entry: http://blogs....

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hearty depot Jul 12, 2019, 10:46 AM

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Reminds me of the datacenter that lost a ton of data due to the CO fire extinguishers

orchid rose Jul 12, 2019, 10:46 AM

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haha, that's pretty cool

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 10:47 AM

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@hearty depot had a DC with 5 SANS get all the inergen gas released at once, the DOORS buckled outwards

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there was an increase in latency for a few seconds

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but no increase in disk failures

strange vapor Jul 12, 2019, 10:48 AM

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In previous gig, we had had a whole slew of alerts one day that a lot of kit in the DC was shutting down due to getting too hot. We had had no notification from the DC that anything was wrong.

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I got sent up in the Van while my manager tried to get through to anyone in the DC.

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Turns out the mains water had burst the previous day. While the cooling system is self contained, it required constant top ups from mains to keep running.

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I pulled into the yard to see a human chain passing in the bottles of water you see in Water Coolers being passed in!

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 10:50 AM

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LOL

strange vapor Jul 12, 2019, 10:51 AM

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Amazingly, we lost no kit or HDs, but a few racks over from us (shared floor) there was SANs in a not very happy place.

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 10:52 AM

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Kinda reminded me about when I was doing some switch config in my old job, suddenly got disconnected and though, heck what now ? then it came back, and that happened 2-3 times, I suspected bad power, went onsite, saw the door.. leaking, the room was pretty self contained and the water had penetrated a crack in the side, and filled up,and flooded out when I opened the door, the water was just bouncing up barely reaching the switch I recon 🤣

hushed basalt Jul 12, 2019, 12:16 PM

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https://gfycat.com/foolhardygrandapatosaur

Gfycat

tikotanabi

Walked into work after 2 days of rain and found a leak

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strange vapor Jul 12, 2019, 12:48 PM

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@clear ferry Seems legit?

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ocean mirage Jul 12, 2019, 12:49 PM

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I got no p90s and need a good acoustic

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hmmm

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I've never got the big urge for a high number of guitars though, maybe cause I know I'd just pick my Tele up first anyway

strange vapor Jul 12, 2019, 12:56 PM

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@ocean mirage https://relish.swiss/innovation/guitar-pickup-swapping

Relish Guitars Switzerland

Pickup Swapping

The new standard in Relish Guitars: Our patented Pickup Swapping System enables you to swap pickups within seconds and adjust the height with two…

ocean mirage Jul 12, 2019, 12:58 PM

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Haha someones finally tried this sort of thing again

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way back when Tony Iommi was involved in some fast swap pickup guitar company

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17 pickup selector positions lol no thanks

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not that I would benefit from fast pickup swapping anyway, im fine with the slow way

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interesting though

strange vapor Jul 12, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Also every expensive.

ocean mirage Jul 12, 2019, 1:01 PM

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oh yeah lol

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I didn't even check that

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Do you play then ?

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 1:01 PM

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I need a 7 string, I don't have one ThonkEyes

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And a barritone

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And a dobro

ocean mirage Jul 12, 2019, 1:02 PM

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I don't think I would really have a use for a 7 string, nor be any good at it lol

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barritones are cool for sure, but again I'd probably not use it as much

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dobros are cool :)

strange vapor Jul 12, 2019, 1:03 PM

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@ocean mirage I was given a 5-string Warwick Rockbass by a friend to try out. Turns out that low B is extremely damn handy 😄

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 1:03 PM

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Only 7 string I've enjoyed is a Ibanez s series, so I might buy one when i go to Japan 😂

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@strange vapor I've drooled for a Yamaha TRB6p for... 20 years

ocean mirage Jul 12, 2019, 1:05 PM

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@strange vapor I had a 5 string bass but it wasn't a good one, seems squier 5 strings have really flabby Bs even if its thicc

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I never used the B anyway, not for what I was playing, since I for the most part just have fun with covers

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My brother has a 7 string guitar, but he plays metal and whatnot so it makes more sense for him

strange vapor Jul 12, 2019, 1:06 PM

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@ocean mirage This is a cheap ass Warwick, but it was setup by custom shop who know what they're doing (Dolmen Guitars). Really nice to play.

ocean mirage Jul 12, 2019, 1:06 PM

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Warwick are supposed to be nice, I assume that includes the cheap ones

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 1:06 PM

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The Great 7 string sound of Nevermore is what I long for on a 7 string

ocean mirage Jul 12, 2019, 1:07 PM

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I can setup things fine but the guitar has to be constructed fine too lol

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something to do with what happens after the nut, length and angle to the tuning peg I guess

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If I got a extended guitar I'd be more interested in clean playing with base lines and stuff on top that riffing, but I would suck at doing that

strange vapor Jul 12, 2019, 1:10 PM

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I bought a cheap ass guitar via Kickstarter two years ago just as a platform to learn how to setup a guitar. Turned out to be a great thing, once I upgraded the hardware!

ocean mirage Jul 12, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Yeah cool :) its a fun thing

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I put together a strat from used parts, that was nice. Ended up liking it more than my American Deluxe Strat so I sold it lol

strange vapor Jul 12, 2019, 1:13 PM

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https://www.fool-audio.com/Fool_Audio_Research/Malcontent.html Paid less than €200. The elctronics on it were shit, so all DiMarzio now. Got some help lowering the action a small bit.

ocean mirage Jul 12, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Yeah cool :) doing setups is fun, and nice once you get it where you like

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I also like the electronics part

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 1:19 PM

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I built a telecaster from rando parts va few years ago

tawny pebble Jul 12, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Guess I'll ask again (: Anybody here who's using a smart power strip? Smart power extension.. I'm looking something that does integrate well with HA and has power meter

strange vapor Jul 12, 2019, 2:22 PM

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@tawny pebble I'm using a APC 1U Powerstrip thing. Just using snmp sensor to monitor it.

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Probably a bit industrial for what you're talking about 😃

tawny pebble Jul 12, 2019, 2:23 PM

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@strange vapor yes, way too Pro 😂

amber bramble Jul 12, 2019, 2:51 PM

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tp-link has a kasa power strip

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i think it works with the HA tp-link integration

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not sure if it has power metering though

tawny pebble Jul 12, 2019, 2:58 PM

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@amber bramble yup i saw it but can't seem to find the DE outlets. and anyway, was hoping to find someone who is using it so to have direct feedback.

Interesting thing I found is this:
https://github.com/arendst/Sonoff-Tasmota/wiki/ZEOOTA-Wifi-Smart-Power-Strip-4-EU-outlets-with-4-USB-ports
I have never flashed tasmota, before buying something i can only use in half (like done already :/ ) it would be a great idea to ask around and see

GitHub

arendst/Sonoff-Tasmota

Provide ESP8266 based itead Sonoff with Web, MQTT and OTA firmware using Arduino IDE or PlatformIO - arendst/Sonoff-Tasmota

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 3:30 PM

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I can help you flash tasmota if you need help, I've done a few plugs 😛

unreal orbit Jul 12, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Please don't flash people. This is a family friendly server

clear ferry Jul 12, 2019, 6:05 PM

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pikasmellsfishy

hearty depot Jul 12, 2019, 7:19 PM

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... well
https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Jm5bSMk5Zw/

tawny pebble Jul 12, 2019, 8:59 PM

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@clear ferry 😆 true! yeah see how it goes, it's a project for september as I'm going holiday in a week and returning in middle august.
Home and then Wacken!
thanks mate for always being so available in helping

undone anchor Jul 12, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Hi all, well a bit off topic but I would like to share a complete guide of my ci/cd setup with gitea and drone. Should I post in the forum? If yes, where to post?

midnight adder Jul 13, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Hello there, by mistake i press STOP instead of restart.I have the ssh close.Any way to start home assistant?

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 5:09 AM

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@midnight adder restart the machine

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You know your smart house is growing when you are starting to consider moving your /24 net to a /23 net ThonkEyes

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 6:21 AM

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lmao @clear ferry are you having any issues? you must have over 100 IoT devices lol

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 6:22 AM

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I have a lot of stuff in general, just 50 vms in my lab, a bunch of network switches in a network lab, and now iot on top of that 😂

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 6:22 AM

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also just heard a report from coca cola today attempting to prepare grocery stores for their death in 2025 since supposedly everything will have a sensor... time to move to /16? lol

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 6:22 AM

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I have more than a 100 devices for sure in iot, but not only wifi

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 6:23 AM

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https://adage.com/article/digital/local-grocery-store-2025/293677 I guess it's a design thing, so probably not 2025

What Your Grocery Store Might Look Like in 2025: Different at Night

The Food Marketing Institutes predicts the store of the future.

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lol well of course I thought you might have a lot of networking equipment as well 😉

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 6:24 AM

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I work with some smart store projects, they do weighted shelves to track items being picked up and put down, and the carts have device trackers in them to see shopping patterns

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 6:24 AM

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also, my god that's a lot of vms. containers? lol

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 6:24 AM

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This has been going on for years

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 6:24 AM

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interesting

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That's super interesting

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 6:24 AM

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No containers here, I'm a VM guy 😛

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 6:24 AM

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lol

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I feel it

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 6:24 AM

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Or I lie, I have 3 containers also

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 6:25 AM

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haha I am currently working on a fourth container for a small app I'm doing

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If I had the computing resources, yes, 50 vms

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but I'm struggling to get my nas up atm

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 6:26 AM

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Deployed 6x3TB memory systems to a grocery store two years ago for sap Hana analytics, so it's definitely nothing new though 😛

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 6:27 AM

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yeah, the analytics has been there for awhile. What about the IoT for consumers though?

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The convenience factor and potential automation of reordering perishables/consumables will probably make it much more difficult for grocery stores

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kinda like amazon warehouses taking over old mall lots lol

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 6:28 AM

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Yeah, video is hard, so pressure sensors and monitoring their own stuff is the way to go

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Then correlate the data

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 6:28 AM

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interesting

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yeah

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how about amazon go though? they use video. Probably just supplemental though

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I think they use all those sensors as well

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 6:29 AM

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The us is different, Norway has strict surveillance laws

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 6:33 AM

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that's probably a good thing

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haha

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 6:34 AM

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Yeah, I'm not allowed to catch any public road or my neighbors houses on my surveillance cams

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 6:34 AM

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huh, man I don't know I should probably check the laws here

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out of curiosity what do you use home assistant for?

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and do things break a lot?

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and more importantly, if they do, are you okay with it?

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 6:36 AM

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Everything, often, because I'm a tool, so I blame myself ThonkEyes

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 6:36 AM

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lol!

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good reasoning ☝

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anything you love that you find yourself coming back to with automation?

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 6:40 AM

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I try to automate most things, but still have to keep some things manual because of the baby

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when even the wife goes hey, that would be nice you know you are doing something right

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 6:55 AM

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haha yup!

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interesting, I bet that you're learning a lot more about user experience and your home that way!

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 6:56 AM

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yeah, home automation started with me wanting to make a smart lamp for the nursery, then it spun out of control 🤣

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now I am building a custom fully integrated greenhouse in HA, most of the lights in the house are smart and more and more of the daily routines are being automated and monitored

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 6:58 AM

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That's great

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I've noticed similar effects after being bitten by the smart home bug

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 6:59 AM

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Thank goodness I have the economy to sustain it, or else it might be like a debt inducing gambling addiction

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 6:59 AM

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It's like once you have these things you realize how much easier you can make your life it you created an automation

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haha

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good point!

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hoping that when I'm working it'll be like that too

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for now, I'm going into grad school

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so probably going to be broke anyways 😄

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clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:00 AM

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I'm nowhere as good as Tinkerer, Vasiley or the others, but I try aThonkParty

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:00 AM

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(after grad school)

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haha

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:01 AM

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I did vocational training, started engineering, but dropped out after a year, I'm not good with school 🤣

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:01 AM

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tbh I pay attention but I haven't gotten on the dev train yet.

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I feel it

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school can be pretty boring

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I wasn't going to do a masters until I learned about the possibility of hanging out in a big makerspace 😃

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actually through this experience I feel like I can really get into IoT and develop some useful things

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Hoping that they'll be useful for more than just +1

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this is what I'm doing https://gix.uw.edu

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clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:04 AM

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my wife is doing her masters in cyber\security\threat now

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:05 AM

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that was my other thing I would be interested in. But I'm leaning on IoT because I love interacting with physical things or using data to do so.

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honestly, props to your wife 😃

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gotta be hard to learn about how easy it is to break into pretty much everything.

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:05 AM

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yeah, you are going to get some kind of job with an IOT education 🤣

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:05 AM

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lol

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:06 AM

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she delivered her bachelor while 7 months pregnant

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:06 AM

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well, maybe it'll just be a hobby

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:06 AM

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and got an A+

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🤣

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:06 AM

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haha that's epic!

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your wife sounds like an amazing person

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and congrats on your child 😄

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Not sure if there are a lot of consumer IoT jobs at the moment, but I have background in networking and programming, so feeling like I can get a job at least to tide over the expense until I really know what I want

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:07 AM

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thanks!

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:07 AM

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I mean, maybe I could work for home assistant 🤔

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lmao

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:07 AM

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I actually discussed with an electrician friend

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he said.. there was only one guy doing IOT

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and I went like

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wtf

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so the consumer market hasn't started blooming yet

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so getting in NOW or sometime soon is probably smart

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because that shit is going to blow up

ocean mirage Jul 13, 2019, 7:08 AM

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Tertiary education would be cool in a way but I never went

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:08 AM

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trust me, I wasn't going to go

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Until I saw some cool stuff.

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then I was like please let me enjoy this without having financial issues lol

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:09 AM

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I concidered doing some education now, but, I have quite a bit of training, I am the only guy doing a lot of products in the whole country and I have 15 years experience, I don't know what more an education could give me 🤷

ocean mirage Jul 13, 2019, 7:09 AM

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Yeah thats fair

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:09 AM

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but yeah, here's to IoT being something that's in everyone's lexicon 🍻

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depends on where you're going. Program I'm in has at least one software dev w/14yrs experience

ocean mirage Jul 13, 2019, 7:10 AM

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I could definitely learn more and make it easier to get work elsewhere in the same field

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If I won the lottery I'd probably study music though :)

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:10 AM

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nice 😄

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:10 AM

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yeah, I have 5 open job offers right now and I have atleast $15.000 more than most of my collegues, don't think struggeling with math for 3 years would be worth it for me, would probably only make me more angry 🤣

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:11 AM

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tbh getting to that point you probably don't need education

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but for my junior level I'm interested in learning more about the business side and design side of creating a product

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:11 AM

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@ocean mirage you could be like me, tonedeaf and rythmblind

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:11 AM

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And learning some sweet new tech too, of course!

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math has been something I've had a tough time applying in my day to day

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so yeah, not worth it for me either 😛

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what kinda music @ocean mirage ?

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:12 AM

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for some reason I excelled in chemistry and physics in my first year of engineering training, but flunked math

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probably because the first ones are interesting 🤷

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:12 AM

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that's intruiging

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hahaha

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yeah!

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I actually love math, fav subject

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Just had a hard time actually using it outside of class lol

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and now that I haven't studied it for a year, I've forgotten mostly everything

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I struggle to do multiplication nowadays

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pretty much rely on computers for everything

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:13 AM

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I just go ok google and what is 64 times 128

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:14 AM

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lol yes!

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I make an estimate first

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:14 AM

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😲

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:14 AM

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And see how wrong I am from Google 😛

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sometime's tech is funny though

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I got an Amazon Echo Auto for my car recently

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And...

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When I gave it directions to a destination, it told me the right numbers

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But then when Google Maps got it, it was the wrong numbers

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:15 AM

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I would like to get a newer iot car, my collegue uses HA to start the webasto in the winter when he unplugs his phone in the morning 🤣

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:15 AM

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And it turned out that the location was on the other side, in the freeway, so I was navigated twice to this spot on the freeway....

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:15 AM

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LOL

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:15 AM

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that's pretty epic

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I have a 2011 car

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dinosaur

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:16 AM

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yeah, I have a 2000 right now

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because I do 30-40.000km per year, so I need something cheap to maintain 🤣

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which my old 2000 Audi A8L was not, so now I drive a Golf MK4

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:17 AM

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easy to maintain is def a plus

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:17 AM

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bought the wife a 2014 model last year for the baby though

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:17 AM

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Like software, like vehicle

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good good

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minivan?

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:17 AM

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nah, small SUV, VW TIguan

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I wanted a Touareg, but she wanted to drive it too 🤣

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:18 AM

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hmm, are you in Germany?

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:18 AM

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Minivans are not a big thing in europe though

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Norway here

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:18 AM

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oh yeah whoops

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gotcha

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:18 AM

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but I had a Chrysler Town And Country the last time I was in the US, nice car

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:19 AM

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Interesting

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I think the most popular cars here are Toyota & Honda

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Sounds fancy to drive in one though

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:20 AM

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almost 50% of all cars sold in Norway right now are electric

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but that is because the state is subsidising them

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:21 AM

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man, we gotta get on that here

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:21 AM

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most popular brands are VW\Toyota\Nissan

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:21 AM

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that's pretty rad

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:21 AM

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all three because they deliver electric cars

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:21 AM

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and big manufacturers don't really have electric yet, right?

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I mean

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They are experimenting?

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:22 AM

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like, a tesla full price would be $150.000 here, but you can get it for $50.000 because of state subsidising

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people don't give a shit about the enviroment, just saving money though ;)

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:22 AM

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that's pretty crazy

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hahaha

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right right

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well it's a step in the right direction, at least

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:22 AM

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they were supposed to stop subsidising after 50.000 cars or something, that is way past now, and they are deliberating how to end it

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:22 AM

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lol

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:22 AM

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because the electric cars have had free parking and free tollboths too

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:23 AM

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woah

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that sounds wild

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to be in norway right now

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I mean it's not a huuuge thing but it kinda is pretty great

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a decent savings for everyone

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But there's gotta be a cost...?

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:23 AM

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that is what happens when you have people who only care about the enviroment and not how to properly fund a country in the drivers-seat

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:23 AM

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YEah

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:23 AM

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so we are losing tons of money every year

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:23 AM

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We have that here, in Seattle, to

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o

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except I think the problems are a bit... worse

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We just don't want cars... at all

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instead the city is pushing for biking everywhere

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but it rains quite a bit here

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so... yeah. Every year there's another extra payment/obstacle for vehicles

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most recently it's been removing lanes from cars and giving them exclusively to bikers. And then there's the 150% increase in vehicle licensing fees

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:26 AM

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the state told everyone to buy diesel in the late 00's

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then now diesel cars are taxed higher since '15

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🤷

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:26 AM

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oof

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but... electric cars are hyped at least

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sad for all those old cars

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diesel used to be the cheapest

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now it's more expensive.

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:26 AM

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the thing with electric in norway...

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it works... for some

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the country is long

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:27 AM

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yeah...

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:27 AM

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it's cold

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:27 AM

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ouch

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:27 AM

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so a electric car that does 150km in summer, will do less than 100 in winter

light trout Jul 13, 2019, 7:27 AM

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Battery+cold == not the best idea

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:27 AM

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and I have 120km to and from the office

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:28 AM

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wow

light trout Jul 13, 2019, 7:28 AM

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Move

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:28 AM

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That's insanely bad

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also t hat's a long commute

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:28 AM

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well, if I accept the job offer I have at hand now I will have 4000km to the office @light trout but I will only have to go once a month 🤣

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:28 AM

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hope you get to work remotely sometimes

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haha

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geez

light trout Jul 13, 2019, 7:29 AM

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Worth it!

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:29 AM

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where you working

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the moon?

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:29 AM

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I might accept an offer in Houston 🤣

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:29 AM

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lol

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you must be pretty specialized

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or just the best, as you said before haha

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:29 AM

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My wife says... I'm special

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atleast

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:29 AM

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lol

light trout Jul 13, 2019, 7:29 AM

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He is special

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:29 AM

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lol

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that's cool you have those opportunities

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:30 AM

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yeah, we'll see, I need to look into the finer details first, like salery and hours and more

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:30 AM

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yup yup

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relocating is kind of a big ask

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unless you get the remote thing

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:31 AM

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well, the thing is, I won't relocate, just do 1 week every month in houston, then the other three weeks wherever I want in Norway

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:31 AM

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still a decent amount of stress I'd think to do everything

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But my mom was a flight attendant for 45 years

ocean mirage Jul 13, 2019, 7:32 AM

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Soz went afk. Not sure what categorisation music degrees have

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:32 AM

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haha classical is one I'd think.

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:32 AM

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flight attendant must be so cool though

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:32 AM

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I think so

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pilot is kinda way cooler

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my dad's one

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:32 AM

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had a friend who worked with automation on oilrigs, he had diamond in every airline you can think of

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:32 AM

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woaaah

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that's rad

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:33 AM

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my father wanted me to become a pilot 🤣

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:33 AM

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it's... an incredible amount of work

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:33 AM

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aye, probably fun though

ocean mirage Jul 13, 2019, 7:34 AM

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Yeah I imagine that classical and jazz are the two big ones, jazz being closer to what I like

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:34 AM

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jazz is for.. strange people

ocean mirage Jul 13, 2019, 7:34 AM

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But soul and blues is more my thing

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Hah

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:34 AM

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true that

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cool stuff

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:34 AM

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I knew a guy who could identify any chord \ note \ beat, kinda music autist

ocean mirage Jul 13, 2019, 7:34 AM

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My little brother loves jazz, he’s primarily a trumpeter

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:34 AM

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but he couldn't play jazz

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it was... too freeformed he said

ocean mirage Jul 13, 2019, 7:35 AM

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It’s fairly straightforward for the most part

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:35 AM

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I'm sort of out guys. going to code a thing but I'll be seeing what's up from time to time 😄

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have fun with the music and keep with it @ocean mirage !

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:35 AM

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Closest to Jazz I listen to is probaby David Sylvian - Secrets Of The Beehive I think it is categorized as Avantgard Jazz

ocean mirage Jul 13, 2019, 7:35 AM

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Basic improv ain’t hard

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:35 AM

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Nice talking with you too

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:35 AM

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byeeeee @serene escarp

ocean mirage Jul 13, 2019, 7:36 AM

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You too, cya

serene escarp Jul 13, 2019, 7:36 AM

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good luck with everything I'll talk to you guys next time 😄

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 9:21 AM

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oof, all 10TB of storage moved from the qnap to the freenas

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and all permissions fixed

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 9:22 AM

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What, you didn't rsync them over 😛

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 9:23 AM

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No, it was a bleeding mess of 10y of data 😂

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 9:24 AM

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Ouch

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 9:24 AM

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But I also got sonarr and qbittorrent running in jails

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Woo

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And backup from freenas to Google drive of my owncloud shares

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Now just waiting for that Dell server from the us 😛

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So I can pool all my drives in a single box

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But I'm going to install Debian on my qnap, and run ha there 😂 😂 😂

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That'll be the strangest install in here I believe

hearty depot Jul 13, 2019, 9:27 AM

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ad a VM or youre ditching the qnap software?

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Bare metal debian

hearty depot Jul 13, 2019, 9:27 AM

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aww

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 9:28 AM

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Bare metal FTW 😛

hearty depot Jul 13, 2019, 9:28 AM

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true - I like it when something like this is possible on 'consumer products'

south gull Jul 13, 2019, 9:32 AM

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Is this enough memory for homeassistant

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(I'm having a giggle)

ocean mirage Jul 13, 2019, 9:33 AM

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not enough by far

south gull Jul 13, 2019, 9:33 AM

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Oh :(

ocean mirage Jul 13, 2019, 9:33 AM

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fill all available slots with LRDIMMS

south gull Jul 13, 2019, 9:33 AM

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There's still 4 slots empty but the guy I got the ram from ran out of 16gb dimms :(

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 9:33 AM

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First world problems 😄

ocean mirage Jul 13, 2019, 9:34 AM

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Doesn't look like you are using it anyway lol

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I got 96GB I could run in my server but only got 32GB in llol

south gull Jul 13, 2019, 9:34 AM

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Hahaha it was my VM host but now I've just replaced esxi with Ubuntu

hearty depot Jul 13, 2019, 9:36 AM

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lol and there I'm to stingy to buy new dimms - just running from 8 Gigs

ocean mirage Jul 13, 2019, 9:37 AM

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eh if you are running fine nbd

hearty depot Jul 13, 2019, 9:38 AM

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              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7914        2881         682          58        4349        4673
Swap:          3956         438        3518

meeeh

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 9:39 AM

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Ooodles of headroom there

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 9:39 AM

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Don't make me pull out my ESXi host again :rofl

south gull Jul 13, 2019, 9:43 AM

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Hahahw

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Yay ha box

📎 JPEG_20190713_194441.jpg

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 9:46 AM

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My Pi3 feels slighted 😛

south gull Jul 13, 2019, 9:47 AM

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Did you see the pcie mod that some guy did to a pi4?

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 9:47 AM

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Yeah, crazy stuff 😄

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Mind you, now that ZWave2MQTT supports MQTT Discovery, I can finally plan a migration off my Pi3 to my old (i7) laptop

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(all I need is some time to do that in... which in the last few months has been in short supply)

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 9:51 AM

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@south gull

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I need to upgrade soon 😄

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 9:51 AM

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😮

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 9:57 AM

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I think I have a picture of a DL980 that I repaired once

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It had 196 cores if memory serves right, and ran windows 2008

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Task manager was hilarious

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 9:58 AM

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WTF, why would you try to run Windows on something like that 🤔

south gull Jul 13, 2019, 9:58 AM

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Damn you win

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 9:59 AM

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@clever mortar legacy application, but actually multi thread support

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 9:59 AM

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See, I'd have wanted to slap a VM platform on there, to make Windows run faster 😛

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 9:59 AM

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@south gull waiting to replace it with a gen8 with 512gb soon

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@clever mortar have you ever worked with state systems..... 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 10:01 AM

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I have had the pleasure of replacing a legacy Windows system, with a Xen platform on the same hardware, to run the same version of Windows. The result was something more responsive 😉

south gull Jul 13, 2019, 10:02 AM

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How2 connect bbq to iot friends

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Too much rain here of late to BBQ anything 😄

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 10:17 AM

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I thought you were hinting with a euphamism about our showoffs 🤣

hearty depot Jul 13, 2019, 10:42 AM

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I should redo the logic of my lights.. I dont want to - thats so much friggleing

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 10:43 AM

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I went through that with the living room lighting automations - it was worth it in the end

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For a start, I broke out all the common parts into automations that controlled booleans, resulting in the others becoming much simpler

hearty depot Jul 13, 2019, 10:46 AM

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bath, toilet and entrance - so all I automated
I have 2 seperate instances, the first turns lights on the other one off 🙈
why do I have to make this stuff so complicated

hearty depot Jul 13, 2019, 11:22 AM

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@clear ferry finally took your advice with SMB 4 lyfe
I just edit a samba share over a samba share 🤣

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lol - bad parenting smbd.service: Supervising process 7432 which is not our child. We'll most likely not notice when it exits.

hushed basalt Jul 13, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Woohoo got nodered working with HA in my cicd setup

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Next stop, world domination

heady ore Jul 13, 2019, 2:46 PM

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hi! I'm trying to build my first homelab ever and migrate my rPi homeassitant to it.... I just got an Intel NUC. I'm trying to decide what hypervisor to use. But now I think I don't understand a few concepts.. What is LXC/LXD?? I was thinking on running kvm and create a few VMs and run docker containers inside. So where LXC/LXD falls into? Would it be a way of running my VMs or my app containers?? Or neither?? thanks!

gloomy canyon Jul 13, 2019, 2:50 PM

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https://linuxhint.com/lxd-vs-docker/

Linux Hint

Ranvir Singh

LXD vs Docker

hushed basalt Jul 13, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Would you consider bare metal

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I don't run VMs myself

heady ore Jul 13, 2019, 3:08 PM

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thanks..

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I have experience using docker.... I'm planning to try a slim down kubernetes (k3s) to run some home services (homeassistant, db, grafana, prometheus, etc) Looks like I'll try Ubuntu Server to run KVM and spin up a few vms as K3s nodes. Maybe using rancher to manage kubernetes..

hushed basalt Jul 13, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Fair enough if you want a virtual homelab

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You could just buy more NUCs though :D

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Money grows on trees right

heady ore Jul 13, 2019, 3:29 PM

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jaja, right...

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the plan is to run one k3s on raspberry pi and run zwave2mqtt there, but be able to manage everything from kubernetes.

orchid rose Jul 13, 2019, 3:46 PM

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I still haven't decided if it would be better to get a Pi, NUC or some used SFF PC for hass... If Pi had a sata connector, the decision would be rather easy i think

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 4:44 PM

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build a mini itx machine

boreal pewter Jul 13, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Nah build a solid minipc not much bigger than a nuc with an asrock deskmini 300 for less than 500 bucks with the newest ryzen 5 3400g

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 4:46 PM

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500 bucks, cost me £198 or something to build this minibox for my NAS 🤣

boreal pewter Jul 13, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Well for 198£ you difinitely don't get a cool and quite minipc with NVME SSD x2 powered, ryzen 3400g and 16GB 3000Mhz CL16 RAM with the size of 15,5x15,5cm

orchid rose Jul 13, 2019, 4:48 PM

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I can run my desktop PC as the server for a few decades for that money, lol

boreal pewter Jul 13, 2019, 4:48 PM

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lol at least not in my country

orchid rose Jul 13, 2019, 4:49 PM

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hmm, haven't actually calculated... You're probably more right than I am 😄

boreal pewter Jul 13, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Considering I would have to rais from 2000kwh to 2800kwh and idk how much we pay but around from 60 bucks to 75 or so per month

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However the feeling to have a stand alone physical device being a server is unpayable

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 4:51 PM

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you should see my 42U rack

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the power usage would cripple your power bill 🤣

boreal pewter Jul 13, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Sure but you probably got a garage to outsource your wife 😛

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 4:54 PM

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lol I tried some 15 year old maxtor 250GB drives in my qnap that I'm going to convert to a HA box

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they showed 62c

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then the nas shutdown

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🤣

orchid rose Jul 13, 2019, 4:57 PM

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I'd prefer to have standalone system. Iirc the PC I have uses about 80W, so that would be 700kWh/y which is like 60€ a year I think

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so a Pi would pretty much save it's own cost in a couple of years (assuming I keep the PC on for quite a few hours a day anyway), but not so much with NUC or something more expensive

hearty depot Jul 13, 2019, 4:58 PM

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deam - would say one..

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boreal pewter Jul 13, 2019, 4:59 PM

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IMO with a pi you limit yourself for future expansions. Just considering this.

orchid rose Jul 13, 2019, 5:01 PM

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think I might need pen and paper for this Underknowledge...

boreal pewter Jul 13, 2019, 5:01 PM

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I honestly would have no idea to calculate the pi 4 at 24/7 ~70% vs a 65w TDP cpu 24/7 ~10% + the pi I/O is very limited, not comparable to a NVME SSD 1500/900MB/s

hearty depot Jul 13, 2019, 5:05 PM

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@orchid rose - I got one - and cant get it 🤣

orchid rose Jul 13, 2019, 5:06 PM

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I think I got it

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||Rodian, Klingon, Kelpien?||

hearty depot Jul 13, 2019, 5:09 PM

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one after each other? I had my guess on 2 Rodians

boreal pewter Jul 13, 2019, 5:10 PM

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I think 1x1=1

orchid rose Jul 13, 2019, 5:11 PM

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I assumed all three had to be there. Instructions unclear!

hearty depot Jul 13, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Got stuck with penis 🤣 I think the unclear instuctions are a part of

valid halo Jul 13, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Me on right at convention

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It's fun

hearty depot Jul 13, 2019, 5:15 PM

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the last I bite my head of Exactly how many false statements are there in the list shown

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🤷

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when I say 3 wrong statements its getting 2 false out of it

orchid rose Jul 13, 2019, 5:17 PM

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I don't think I'm sober enough for the second one. I don't get it after reading it multiple times

hearty depot Jul 13, 2019, 5:17 PM

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word

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 5:20 PM

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@orchid rose my desktop has been on for 12 years, and the blade enclosure too, sleep mode is not an option 😄

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I even used 400kwh to heat the greenhouse the last two months 😂

orchid rose Jul 13, 2019, 5:23 PM

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My desktop is on 24/7 as well and I'm planning to change that in the near future hopefully. Got a external disk I connected to my router (poor man's NAS), a small kodi box for entertainment and now I just need to move Hass to some other system

midnight adder Jul 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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WHY IS THIS A SETTING

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orchid rose Jul 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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So you can annoy your friends when you score in FIFA

light trout Jul 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Because it can be

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 7:01 PM

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@midnight adder for when that annoying friend with epilepsy comes over

midnight adder Jul 13, 2019, 7:04 PM

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for when kyle wins at mario kart again

hearty depot Jul 13, 2019, 7:19 PM

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23430473 bad blocks on my other old drive... holy (equals 227Mb as logfile )

boreal pewter Jul 13, 2019, 7:20 PM

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pure vine Jul 13, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Finally got this working again, useful to see if it will be long getting to the north of my city

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clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Oh, the good old M32

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Good luck 😛

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Is that still a nightmare in rush hour?

pure vine Jul 13, 2019, 8:30 PM

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depends if there has been a crash

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 8:30 PM

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So, 50/50 then 😛

pure vine Jul 13, 2019, 8:31 PM

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more like 75/25 as sometimes it will just be busy

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 8:32 PM

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To be fair to it, it's no worse than any other main road in rush hour, and infinitely better than the M25

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Nice, my qnap is now running Debian 10

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https://i.redd.it/v8vgj788k4a31.jpg

clever mortar Jul 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Too true

orchid rose Jul 13, 2019, 9:04 PM

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damn brain, y u heff to do this

light trout Jul 13, 2019, 9:04 PM

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porbably just missing a ;

clear ferry Jul 13, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Or just me writing conidtion instead of condition but I can't see it until five people point it out

flat lintel Jul 13, 2019, 10:40 PM

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New NFC/RFID smart locks for drawers and cabinets from IKEA! https://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00429619/

IKEA US/EN

ROTHULT Smart lock - IKEA

IKEA - ROTHULT, Smart lock,

storm summit Jul 13, 2019, 10:41 PM

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super cool.

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but.... what if the battery dies?

flat lintel Jul 13, 2019, 10:41 PM

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theres a warning system

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when you try to use it and battery is low it beeps incessantly for 30 minutes

storm summit Jul 13, 2019, 10:42 PM

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like a smoke alarm i guess.

flat lintel Jul 13, 2019, 10:42 PM

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ya

storm summit Jul 13, 2019, 10:42 PM

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if i ever go to ikea again i'll buy that

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my ikiea wishlist is long. i wish they did shipping. i hate going in that store.

flat lintel Jul 13, 2019, 10:43 PM

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it appears they ship

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see big blue button

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yeah, clicked through, it ships

storm summit Jul 13, 2019, 10:44 PM

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oh weird. i thought shipping was like $75

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I wonder if i can just load up on a bunch of stuff and only spend $10

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@flat lintel do you have any ikea home automation stuff?

flat lintel Jul 13, 2019, 10:46 PM

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tradfri

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bulbs paired directly to my zigbee stick

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also hue

storm summit Jul 13, 2019, 10:46 PM

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what hub?

flat lintel Jul 13, 2019, 10:46 PM

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no hub

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HUSBZB-1

storm summit Jul 13, 2019, 10:46 PM

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what stick

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gotcha.

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not bad for not wanting to goto the store

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what would i use that lock for.... hmmmm

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my car! hahah

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Sorry, your search did not produce any results.

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😦

peak cloud Jul 13, 2019, 11:20 PM

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@flat lintel Have you seen IKEA’s new farting smart blinds?

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Sorry, Fyrtur*

storm summit Jul 13, 2019, 11:24 PM

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0 matches for "Fyrtur" Did you mean: tretur, mixtur, filter?

Sorry, your search did not produce any results.

peak cloud Jul 13, 2019, 11:35 PM

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Huh? 😂

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Oh, they are not out yet. Oct 1 in US.

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https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/6/14/18679040/ikea-smart-blinds-october-1st-release-date-us

The Verge

Ikea’s smart blinds get a new October 1st release date in the US

Voice-controlled shades will soon be a reality

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The price is pretty surprising to me: $129 to $179

serene escarp Jul 14, 2019, 12:18 AM

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Speaking of Ikea... I needed to create a bracket for the classic Ikea PS cabinet. Going to upload on Thingiverse but pretty happy with the results right now.
This allows you to put your shelves on different levels without them being so easy to fall. The original design expects both shelves to be placed on the same level so that they can use each other as blocks; my design simply puts the block on the brackets instead of relying on shelves being on the same level and holding/blocking each other from falling off. My end plan is to modify these brackets to hold dowels, so that I can use this cabinet partially as a filing cabinet. These aren't super sturdy but they seem to do the job. Will update with the Ikea modification goodness!

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random sierra Jul 14, 2019, 2:35 AM

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ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 5:20 AM

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Holy damn, apparently I average 28kWh per day last month

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I wonder what my options are to get measurements are for how much power I am using

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something attached to the meter or something

quartz ether Jul 14, 2019, 5:22 AM

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Are you running a server farm 😮

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Oh hey Robot, fancy seeing you here

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Uhh no, just the one server

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In fairness we didn't have curtains for part of June, but theres other things I can cut down on

quartz ether Jul 14, 2019, 5:24 AM

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I use around 40kw a day :p

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 5:24 AM

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hehe yeah but you have a good reason for that

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How much do you pay per kWh?

quartz ether Jul 14, 2019, 5:25 AM

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21.69c per unit

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with a fixed charge of $1.65 per day

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 5:25 AM

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fixed charge eh? as in your are always charged that or its a cap?

quartz ether Jul 14, 2019, 5:26 AM

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Charged that. So if you didnt use any power then you would have to pay the 1.65

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 5:26 AM

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ahhh okay

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I got solar panels on Thursday so I can tell how much I am making but not how much I am using

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I'd like to base automations around that equation, maybe

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Made 7kWh hours today and its been a somewhat cloudy winters day so thats nice

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 5:41 AM

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@serene escarp nice!

quartz ether Jul 14, 2019, 5:41 AM

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Should be able to sort that out easily @ocean mirage

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Yeah I just need to do some research

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 5:43 AM

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@ocean mirage we do 90kwh average per day here in summer, and 120kwh average in winter

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 5:43 AM

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hooooly what

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How on earth

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 5:43 AM

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Winter is -35 😛

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 5:44 AM

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But what about summer lol

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Also I just assume your buildings are insulated better lol

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 5:46 AM

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Today we pay usd0.1 per kWh , it's been a lot lower in summer, winter is probably closer to 0.15 0.2

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They are quite insulated, but it's hard to keep a whole house warm for months 😛

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 5:48 AM

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I pay about 0.16 USD and I think thats regardless of time or season

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fair enough

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still 90kWh in SUMMER? damn

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 5:49 AM

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The biggest power users are probably water heater (300l), oven (4pads and the oven itself)

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And heat pump, to keep house cool in summer and warm in winter

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Atleast the two first ones are gas in the US, so they don't count those on the electrical bill

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Don't know what you do in oz

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Gas is semi common but I dont use gas at all

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Feed it with kangaroos? kKph

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 5:51 AM

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lol

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Kilos of kangaroos per hour

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 5:52 AM

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I have no idea how many litres my water heater is, I'll check in a second since I am going to turn it down

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 5:52 AM

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PUT IT ON THE BARBIE!

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 5:52 AM

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its way hotter than needed

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lol

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 5:52 AM

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We install the heater and never touch it for 25 years until we replace it 🤷

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Thats quite a lifespan

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Yeah, replaced the one in this house when I moved in, it was 25 exactly, put it out for free in the marketplace, a guy came driving 300km to pick it up the same day

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The biggest fuse in a Norwegian house is the oven in the kitchen though

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It is usually 25 or more amps

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With the new induction tops they are usually 2x25 I believe

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 5:56 AM

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I can't say I know much about the power specs of our hardwired appliances tbh

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I think my water heater is 10 years old though and I think thats considered old here

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 5:59 AM

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I have seen there are some water heater components in ha

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That is weird to me 😛

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 6:00 AM

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Could be related to getting it to mainly heat when you are producing power (solar) or when power is cheap (off peak)?

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 6:07 AM

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That is a good idea actually

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Solar is not that widespread in Norway yet

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The initial cost is to high for most as it would take 20-30 years to pay off

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And most Norwegians move once every 10 years it seems to me😂

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 6:09 AM

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My GFs mum bought the system for us so its making me money immediately lol

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 6:10 AM

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😂

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 6:10 AM

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Shes is very greeny though so its not just a money equation for her anyway

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although my city aims to be fully renewable soon anyway

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But last I heard the average time it takes to pay for itself is 7 years, may have come down since then

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our sun might be stronger though?

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Got that ozone layer hole helping us out lol

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 6:12 AM

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Yeah, last 6 months have all been 55%+ electric vehicles sold of total cars I think

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 6:12 AM

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Oh damn

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is there any incentive in EVs, like less tax or something?

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 6:12 AM

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DOESN'T WORK IN THE OUTBACK MATE!

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 6:12 AM

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hah

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 6:13 AM

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Yeah the state pays all tax, so it's dead cheap

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 6:13 AM

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ah nice

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 6:13 AM

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Tesla would be 150k$ in reality, they pay 50k

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 6:14 AM

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But an EV isn't powered by dinosaurs like mine is so uh, check mate

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 6:14 AM

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Dinos rule man

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 6:15 AM

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When I play the Jurassic Park theme while redlining on that dino juice its just magical

hushed basalt Jul 14, 2019, 6:49 AM

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You can power an EV with dino corpses

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Unless you're on off grid solar

light trout Jul 14, 2019, 6:52 AM

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Even then you can get a diesel power generator just for the car 👌

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 7:01 AM

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Hehe

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Well for your point telco - Canberra has been aiming to be fully renewable powered by the end of next year

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Not sure the likelihood

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 7:12 AM

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Norway said it wants to sell only electric vehicles by 2025

light trout Jul 14, 2019, 7:13 AM

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Then it's a good thing Norway is not a car dealership

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 7:13 AM

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But that is retarded since 40% of income to the state is from gas and taxes on cars

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 7:16 AM

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EVs are generally pretty heavy right?

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Them batteries

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 7:32 AM

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Reading up on smart thermostat and the theory behind. I don’t really get how it saves money, does this only work for people who run their heating/cooling while not at home?

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Cause I just turn my shit off, 100% savings

subtle sandal Jul 14, 2019, 7:34 AM

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That's my thinking as well.

hushed basalt Jul 14, 2019, 7:34 AM

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@ocean mirage they're part of the "National" energy grid though aren't they

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You can't be 100% renewable unless you don't import any fossil power

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 7:35 AM

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Yeah I’d have to assume, so I am guessing that it’s just trying to get a zero sum

hushed basalt Jul 14, 2019, 7:35 AM

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Wait, that's illegal.jpg

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 7:36 AM

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Wouldn’t be the first time our government would do something illegal

hushed basalt Jul 14, 2019, 7:36 AM

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I mean it's fine for them to increase renewable use, but I think it's a misleading term

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Plus no one eveeerr talks about consumption

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 7:36 AM

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Legalised same sex marriage illegally before it was a federal thing lol

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Oh for sure

hushed basalt Jul 14, 2019, 7:36 AM

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If we had proper building codes, and regulated, we wouldn't need so much power

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So much power used to heat or cool shit buildings

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 7:37 AM

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Yeah Canberra has so many un insulated houses

hushed basalt Jul 14, 2019, 7:39 AM

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" rar my power bill is so high, i know let's demand cheaper power instead of just consuming less"

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" my house is so awesome, it has 40mm stone bench tops and italian marble in the bathroom. No I can't afford air sealing or insulation. All this glazing lets it so much light it's so airy. Why is it so hot in the evening"

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 7:42 AM

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@ocean mirage yea which makes it even more stupid, because they pay less road tax and toll booths, even though they do more wear on the roads

ocean mirage Jul 14, 2019, 7:45 AM

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Yeah that’s my thinking but if they are trying to support them it makes sense, if it doesn’t bankrupt them lol

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 7:51 AM

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root@NASC771E5:~# python3 --version
Python 3.7.3
root@NASC771E5:~# cat /etc/debian_version
10.0
root@NASC771E5:~# uname -a
Linux NASC771E5 4.19.0-5-marvell #1 Debian 4.19.37-5 (2019-06-19) armv5tel GNU/Linux

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nice

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installing HA in venv on the qnap now

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OMEGADANCE

clear ferry Jul 14, 2019, 9:27 AM

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My roses are coming along

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