#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 357

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:42 PM

#

339

#

OOFT

odd mist May 12, 2019, 5:42 PM

#

were you using anyhing before 1password?

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 5:42 PM

#

yeah...

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:42 PM

#

adds that to The List of things to buy once I get my summer job

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:43 PM

#

@odd mist KeePass

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 5:43 PM

#

@peak cloud , I've used KeePass (became garbage), LastPass (also became garbage), and am currently using DashLane.

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:43 PM

#

@valid halo $3/mo is so worth it. I ended up springing for the $5/mo family bundle so that I can get all of my employees on it too, for my company passwords.

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 5:43 PM

#

It works well with my setup of macs and iphones..

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

That's what I currently use KeePass

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

Yes, KeePass used to be amazing, but you're absolutely right, it became garbage.

odd mist May 12, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

I'm still using lastpass

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

LastPass I've heard is great, too.

odd mist May 12, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

my wife has learned how to use it

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

Perhaps my use case is different. how is it garbage?

odd mist May 12, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

I'd be afraid to switch to something else

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

I did a comparison on the two, and both are nearly identical in feature sets.

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

My company used LastPass for our customer environment password keeping, and it clashed so bad with my DashLane for my personal stuff.

odd mist May 12, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

lastpass has definitely gotten better in the past 3 months

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

1P just recently released their 1Password X Chrome extension -- amazing!

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 5:45 PM

#

@valid halo KeePass just wasn't keeping up with competitors at all (at least when i quit using them) and were lagging in support.

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:45 PM

#

You guys use GitHub UI much? If so, check out these userscripts I found the other day: https://github.com/Mottie/GitHub-userscripts

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:45 PM

#

Ah. I see

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:46 PM

#

@sturdy juniper That's what happens when you have such fragmented software. The official was only supported on Windows, and everything else was just implemented by other developers.

#

If you don't have Tampermonkey for Chrome, get it now. ❤

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:46 PM

#

I remember my primary annoyance with Last Pass before I switched was the mobile app wasn't syncing with the main one on my pc

#

even though it was supposed to do so for free

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:46 PM

#

(if you're willing to play with Javascript and need to run userscripts)

#

I was really impressed how fast 1P synced.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:46 PM

#

So far KeePass has been much better in that regard

#

though I am using a third party app that grabs the database from Dropbox

#

so that could easily be a massive security hole

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:47 PM

#

Yeah, that's what I was doing, but it was garbage for maintaining different vaults.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:47 PM

#

Ahhhhhh. I currently only have one vault which is myself.

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:47 PM

#

I have to have multiple vaults: one for corporate (me, my business partner, and my GM), one for my online employees, and one for each store.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:48 PM

#

I can see why you'd have trouble with it.

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:48 PM

#

I don't want to share all of my personal passwords with all of my employees 😂

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:48 PM

#

That's a lot of files to keep updated and synced and logged

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:48 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

There was no way for ~~KeePassX~~ MacPass (macOS) to open multiple files in the same window, and it was difficult to keep the different folders synced with the other files.

#

Speaking of, I should probably import all of my KeePass stuff. Chrome was easy to import.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

Maybe I'll give LP another try

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

I already imported personal keepass stuff.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

it was nice to have it autofill all my apps

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

Try 1P!!!

#

If you like it, I'll buy your first 3 months 😃

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:50 PM

#

XD

#

That's a STRONG endorsement

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 5:50 PM

#

for sure

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:50 PM

#

Let me go check it's onboarding instructions

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

I am that confident that you'll like it. I've used it on Windows, macOS, and iPhone, and everything is so perfect.

#

It even plays well with keychain on iOS.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

I don't even know what that is! It sounds impressive though

#

😂

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:52 PM

#

Keychain is what stores your passwords on iPhone.

#

(and syncs with macOS seamlessly)

#

It's all integrated into the OS.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:54 PM

#

Okay so I have to export my KeePass 2 stuff and then use a converter tool to make them work in 1 Password

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:54 PM

#

"Along with a master password, 1Password utilizes a “secret key” which never leaves your login devices, and is required for logins. That holds some advantages over multi-factor authentication, though it does mean that 1Password does not have the option of hardware or software based, third-party authentication systems. It does offer fingerprint logins, for those who like to use biometrics to authenticate themselves."

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/lastpass-vs-1password-comparison/

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:54 PM

#

Fingerprint Login slaps as the kids say

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:54 PM

#

I have no idea what that even means.

#

I exported my personal KeePass stuff and imported to 1P no problem.

#

I think I used CSV.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:55 PM

#

It means it's good.

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 5:55 PM

#

I still enjoy keepass, the database is behind two levels of authentication and I can use fingerprint to login 🤷

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:55 PM

#

I am about to do it again for a diff vault, so I can let you know how difficult the process is.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:55 PM

#

I'll figure it out

#

I'm good at Reading The Friendly Manual

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 5:56 PM

#

Or actually three levels if I count keepass itself

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:56 PM

#

There is a pretty neat converter tool available. That's probably what you read about.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:56 PM

#

Sometimes I do grow concerned using KeePass

#

since I'm C+P into programs.

#

Then again if someone has that kind of access. I'm screwed as is

#

Anyways onto trying out 1Pass so that dale is happy

#

So you just export as CSV?

#

grumbles and walks off to find his wallet

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:58 PM

#

I believe so.

#

Send me your receipt and I'll send you over 1/4 of the annual payment if you do the $3/mo single-user subscription.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

XD I haven't even used the program yet

#

I'm doing the 30 day free trail

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

The two things I haven't tried and cannot endorse: 1P on Linux and 1P on Android

valid halo May 12, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

😬

#

I'm an android user

#

Well I guess I'll be the test case then

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 6:00 PM

#

Lol, good. Just tell your Alexa to remind you to message me when it comes time to buy (if you choose to)

valid halo May 12, 2019, 6:00 PM

#

KK

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 6:00 PM

#

The fact that their Windows experience is better than the macOS experience, I have faith that Android experience is going to be bomb.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 6:01 PM

#

Choosing a Master Password

#

grabs a pen

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

https://discussions.agilebits.com/discussion/30286/mrcs-convert-to-1password-utility-mrc-converter-suite

valid halo May 12, 2019, 6:07 PM

#

CSV import from KeePass didn't work right lol

#

my passwords become the User names XD

#

I gotta install strawberry perl

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 6:13 PM

#

Ewwwwww

valid halo May 12, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

I know right. More WORK

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

I am testing out the mrc converter suite.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 6:29 PM

#

Hmmm

#

problem

#

output file from converter is pif

#

but 1P wants CSV

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 6:31 PM

#

Even my android app for keepass let's me select .csv as output here 🤷

#

Oh you need to convert it after the export?

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 6:32 PM

#

he said the KeePass export swapped his passwords and usernames... I would think if that were the case, he could just change the headers in the csv to reverse them...

#

not that i've tested that, just thinking adjusting the headers might be a valid option..

valid halo May 12, 2019, 6:35 PM

#

Okay

#

I used the converter program

#

and it works P good

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 6:35 PM

#

@valid halo That converter worked pretty well!

#

On mac I had to edit the "helper" script a little so that it could find the perl file.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 6:36 PM

#

lol

#

"Reused Passwords (71)"

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 6:36 PM

#

Lmao, that's low 😛

#

📎 unknown.png

valid halo May 12, 2019, 6:37 PM

#

OOFT

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 6:38 PM

#

Yeah, no bueno.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 6:39 PM

#

Well now I can change them EZ PZ

#

aw shoot

#

my secure notes didn't import right

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 6:40 PM

#

I generate 32 character random passwords with special characters, numbers and both cases per site, I never reuse a password 😛

valid halo May 12, 2019, 6:41 PM

#

Okay

#

that's cool

#

wanna fite about it?

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 6:42 PM

#

@clear ferry Some sites (I have no idea why!) don't allow certain characters in passwords, and some don't allow longer than a certain amount. 😢

#

@valid halo If you use Chrome, install 1Password X extension.

#

I have been changing my passwords slowly but surely. Won't say how long they are, or how many of which characters 😛

#

But I do know that 1P makes it sooo easy to change htem.

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 6:43 PM

#

@peak cloud I've only encountered it on two sites, then I lowered it to 16 characters and no special, and it was fine 🤷

valid halo May 12, 2019, 6:43 PM

#

"Must be changed every month. Eight Character Max. No numbers or spaces and cannot be the same as last six passwords."

flat lintel May 12, 2019, 6:49 PM

#

Glad 1P worked out @peak cloud

#

It’s the only password manager that is thoughtfully designed

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 6:50 PM

#

Asus Merlin only allows passwords up to 16 characters 😮

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 6:50 PM

#

@peak cloud normie routers 😛

peak cloud May 12, 2019, 6:50 PM

#

Yeah yeah yeah. I'm wanting to get an Edge router one day.

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 6:51 PM

#

Those are even more normie these days it seems, everyone has them if you listen to this discord 😂

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 6:52 PM

#

I'm good with my Untangle setup for now..

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 6:52 PM

#

Untangle was fun, but I'm definitely going back to pfsense before the summer is over

#

Just need to find the time 😠

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 6:53 PM

#

Untangle has been good to me. and their workshops are cool

#

lol, i just looked at my untangle instance, and it's been up 166 days. we had power outages twice in the past 3 months during the night. I guess those old UPS batteries ARE still good.

#

at least, good enough to bridge the gap

valid halo May 12, 2019, 6:57 PM

#

I've got an Actiontec Router

#

get on mah level

#

I want to buy a UPS for my Pi

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

You get a ups header for the pi

#

It's quite nice

#

One option https://m.banggood.com/Geekworm-UPS-HAT-Board-2500mAh-Lithium-Battery-For-Raspberry-Pi-3-Model-B-Pi-2B-B-A-p-1105260.html?akmClientCountry=NO&

[US$19.68] Geekworm UPS HAT Board + 2500mAh Lithium Battery For Ra...

Geekworm Raspi UPS HAT Board + 2500mAh Lithium Battery For Raspberry Pi

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 6:59 PM

#

I still haven't really figured out what I'm gonna do with this atomic pi i have sitting on my desk.

#

I thought about putting hassio on it..

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

Ooft

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

just not sure i trust it yet

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

that's gonna clash with my case

#

What's a low risk use case you can test it with?

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

retroPI, or maybe a androidtv box..

#

maybe finally getting around to building a carputer

#

the AutoPi project really sparked my interest.

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

Had a colleague build a carputer back in 98, it was huge 😂

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

A carputer?

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

yeah, thats about how long i've been thinking about building one

#

lol

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

Do tell

#

Plz tell because I don't feel like Googling

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

well, back then i wanted to build an mp3 player for my car, using advantech sbc's

#

Now, I can throw a Pi on a OBD2 dongle with a touchscreen and get a lot more from it.

#

CAN bus hacking too

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 7:04 PM

#

I had a raspberry pi in my Audi A8, I connected it to the TV tuner and streamed Kodi via WiFi to it, it was ok 🤷

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:04 PM

#

I honestly don't see a use case for a Carputer for myself

#

I've got AA and Bluetooth in my Jetta

#

Maybe Car presence?

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:05 PM

#

my 2010 chrysler doesn't have a ton of creature comforts, Bluetooth included..

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 7:05 PM

#

I spend up to 6 hours of a day in my car, so streaming is a must

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:06 PM

#

Dang

#

That's a lotta sitting

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:06 PM

#

yeah, eff that noise..

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 7:07 PM

#

I cover 400km in all directions by car, and the rest of the country by plane, I use 20gb mobile data per month 😂

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:07 PM

#

W what do you Do?

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:08 PM

#

from what i've heard him talk about, i'd be willing to bet he's in charge of a bunch of cool shit.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:09 PM

#

The Head of Driving Excessively Society

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 7:10 PM

#

I'm a technology freak, that fixes stuff and implement the coolest systems you haven't heard of 🤷

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:12 PM

#

Okay.

#

I goto college part time and slowly drain my limited funds tinkering

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 7:13 PM

#

Like storage systems on the south pole, or satellite radio towers in key locations 😂

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:13 PM

#

you do sound like a badass, sir. good job on finding a position that lets you flex on folks. 😄

#

I'm just a sr. tech support engineer for a fairly well known software company.

#

I opted to take on a position without requiring travel, due to starting a family young.

#

you're based out of the UK, right @clear ferry ?

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:16 PM

#

Set up Home Assistant at the Arctic Research Stations

#

Just an average dayfot atxbyea

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:17 PM

#

Pole Assistant?

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 7:17 PM

#

Software, that only leads to trouble 🤢

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:17 PM

#

trust me, i have already realized that.

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 7:17 PM

#

@sturdy juniper no, Los Norway 😂

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:18 PM

#

ah, a northman

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 7:18 PM

#

Brb kidnap some British ladies

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:19 PM

#

lmao

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:19 PM

#

Norway is cool

#

They got a big seed vault

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:19 PM

#

It's definitely a place on my list to visit.

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:20 PM

#

so far my only foreign visit has been Canada

#

I went fishing there

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 7:21 PM

#

Furthest I've been is new Zealand, but I've been in atleast 1/3 of Europe and the states a few times 🎉

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:21 PM

#

Dude New Zealand is awesome

#

as someone once said "New Zealand. Earth's bonus track"

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:21 PM

#

another one of the places i want to go to.. 😄

vast dove May 12, 2019, 7:21 PM

#

Did Thailand, Singapore, Vietnam, UK, Spain, Portugal, Italy and Denmark just in the last 60 days 😮

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:22 PM

#

jesus

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:22 PM

#

OwO

vast dove May 12, 2019, 7:22 PM

#

Racking up those airmiles, lol

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:22 PM

#

Sometimes I'm glad to be a humble student

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:22 PM

#

just wait till you get out in the real world

#

open as many doors as you can

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:23 PM

#

Yeah everyone tells me that is about who you know these days

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:23 PM

#

fo sho

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 7:23 PM

#

I want to go to Vietnam 🎉

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:23 PM

#

So I guess I need to get out there and network and mingle and "talk to people"

#

🤢

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:23 PM

#

I want to ride a motorcycle thru Vietnam, like the top gear guys did, my favorite episode

#

Yeah, my friends used to dog me about being so social and networking all the time.. Earned me the name Hollywood once.

light trout May 12, 2019, 7:24 PM

#

Vietnam is by far the most exciting place I have visited

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 7:24 PM

#

Had a friend who worked with automation, he flew 250 days per year, had platinum in all airlines, but that is to much for me

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:24 PM

#

Oh gosh

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:24 PM

#

but now, my linkedin is packed. 😄

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:24 PM

#

Y'all are making me remember a man

#

who bought a lifetime ticket from American Airlines

#

he flew so much they revoked it

sturdy juniper May 12, 2019, 7:25 PM

#

i remember that story

#

they revoked it

#

lol

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:25 PM

#

"Do I look like a man who's flown all he can?"

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 7:26 PM

#

Next big trip will have to be Japan though, three weeks with different cities and some Shinto trial hiking mindblown

valid halo May 12, 2019, 7:26 PM

#

Ooooh

#

As a Weeb I think one day I should visit Japan and take in the pretty sights

#

anime shows such nice scenery

clear ferry May 12, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

0.06ms latency for NVMeOF, nice

paper orchid May 12, 2019, 10:22 PM

#

made some improvements to my setup, thought I'll share, as some of you seemed to like last time... 😃 https://github.com/solidcake420/home_assistant

GitHub

solidcake420/home_assistant

SolidCake420 Home Assistant Configuration. Contribute to solidcake420/home_assistant development by creating an account on GitHub.

brisk glen May 13, 2019, 2:30 AM

#

Yay, another user joins the 1Password hord

peak cloud May 13, 2019, 2:36 AM

#

@brisk glen Sarcasm? 😂

brisk glen May 13, 2019, 2:37 AM

#

Nay. I love 1Password

valid halo May 13, 2019, 3:15 AM

#

Still gotta install on phone

civic ember May 13, 2019, 5:06 AM

#

@hushed basalt The watch is one of those Fossil Hybrids so it can't send a notification instead of an alarm. More importantly the alarm feature cannot be tripped by a notification, although a notification can make it vibrate so that's something to consider.... And about waking up at different times. Yeah it's probably not great for me but I'm a shift worker with 3 different shifts that happen without any pattern so....

hushed basalt May 13, 2019, 5:11 AM

#

Sounds awful haha

#

I can't stand changing shifts

#

Have you looked at a Xiaomi watch?

#

You can get shaker alarms as well

#

If it's directly under your pillow and the sensitivity isn't too strong it should wake you up before her

#

But even my wifes iwatch vibrating can wake me up so it just depends. There's no silver bullet

#

You could set up a high power laser that burns you, that would wake you up :D

peak cloud May 13, 2019, 5:18 AM

#

I miss my bedshaker alarm 😂

#

This is the alarm I used to have: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OOWZUK/

civic ember May 13, 2019, 5:21 AM

#

Maybe I'll just go down the route of my bedside light gradually increasing brightness to 75% and then 20 pushbullet notifications 2 seconds apart.

#

Although the annoying thing about that is I can't turn off the pushbullet notifications once I get up

#

Unless I use appdaemon to put it on a while loop until the motion sensor detects movement 😄

peak cloud May 13, 2019, 5:23 AM

#

Have you looked into the Z-Wave sirens? They make great alarm clocks 😃

#

I set mine up so that the only way I could turn it off was to login to the UI and disable it.

civic ember May 13, 2019, 5:23 AM

#

The (most important) prerequisite in all this is not waking the wife at the same time 😉

peak cloud May 13, 2019, 5:23 AM

#

(It would go off for a few seconds, then wait a little while, then go off again)

#

Well that's no fun!

#

Electro-stim unit.

#

Super quiet. 😄

civic ember May 13, 2019, 5:24 AM

#

I'd have to remember to put it on :/

peak cloud May 13, 2019, 5:24 AM

#

Hah, then you're not playing with the right one.

#

Get something that can go under the sheets where you lie.

#

now wants to do this.

civic ember May 13, 2019, 5:25 AM

#

I wonder what the WAF on that would be if she crawls to my side of the bed just before it goes off 🤔

peak cloud May 13, 2019, 5:25 AM

#

😂

#

So now this brings the question -- do you like it when she crawls over to your side of the bed? 😂

civic ember May 13, 2019, 5:26 AM

#

I'm not automating a wife defense system if that's what you're asking 😛

peak cloud May 13, 2019, 5:27 AM

#

That certainly answers the question appropriately!

civic ember May 13, 2019, 5:30 AM

#

Anyhow current project is getting MQTT Broker and Zigbee2MQTT up and running.

#

Taking a while, but slowly getting there.

peak cloud May 13, 2019, 5:34 AM

#

What installation method are you running?

#

If Hass.io, it should just be a couple of clicks.

#

https://github.com/danielwelch/hassio-zigbee2mqtt

civic ember May 13, 2019, 5:57 AM

#

I can't seem to get it to connect to the Mosquito Broker addon

#

Keeps throwing Not connected to MQTT server!

#

homeassistant does manage to connect to Mosquitto though.

#

Progress! I got it to throw an authentication error.

#

At least now I know it's connecting.

clear ferry May 13, 2019, 6:03 AM

#

You need to supply a user in newer versions of mosquitto, that was not the case in earlier releases

civic ember May 13, 2019, 6:05 AM

#

I have, in the acl conf file etc

#

Success!

#

I was putting the username/password in the conf file of /share/zigbee2mqtt rather than in the Hassio addon

#

I think this is what's so addictive about this hobby. It's tricky and you need to learn new things to get things up and running but it's really satisfying when you finally get something new to work.

civic ember May 13, 2019, 6:30 AM

#

Great, now I just need to mount them properly on the garage door.

clear ferry May 13, 2019, 8:18 AM

#

https://www.reddit.com/r/css_irl

r/css_irl

#

This was wonderful 😂

quartz ether May 13, 2019, 10:47 AM

#

I really need to sort my setup... sooooo many errors in the dashboard. Wemote is working but is doing everything twice so not so good.
Anyone want to come do my job for a week so I can sit down lol

devout kayak May 13, 2019, 10:53 AM

#

I am new here, so please forgive me if I am asking this in the wrong place. I have homeassistant and google home running without any issues. I add my hass account to google home (through the cloud nuba casa login), and everything seems just fine, and integrated.

The problem starts when I try to manage my routines on google home. Trying to edit an existing routine, or adding a new routine -> Google Home Crashes.

Any ideas what would cause that?

I have done the obvious. Flushed cache. Uninstalled reinstalled google home. Disconnected all other accounts from google home. Disconnected and reconnected HASS.

civic ember May 13, 2019, 1:35 PM

#

@devout kayak When you say Google Home crashes, you mean the app on your phone?

light trout May 13, 2019, 1:51 PM

#

Or does it fly off the shelf and crash on to the floor? 🤔

valid halo May 13, 2019, 1:51 PM

#

Usually when my Alexa does that I threaten it with a hammer and it calms down

light trout May 13, 2019, 1:52 PM

#

I would just threaten it with "do that one more time and I will trade you in for a Google home"

clear ferry May 13, 2019, 2:09 PM

#

Alexa domination, I'm sure there is a subreddit for that 🤔

valid halo May 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

#

Euuugh

civic ember May 13, 2019, 2:43 PM

#

I went with Google, figuring they have more data so their models would be more accurate...

upper tinsel May 13, 2019, 2:47 PM

#

@civic ember to be fair, I did just submit "How the fuck do commercials still trigger you?" to my Google Home feedback.

civic ember May 13, 2019, 2:48 PM

#

Luckily there are no commercials in this house

upper tinsel May 13, 2019, 2:49 PM

#

I only get commercials when my girlfriend uses YouTube.... I really ought to get her YouTube Red...

clear ferry May 13, 2019, 2:49 PM

#

@upper tinsel good thing it wasn't triggered by commercials from other "tubes" that could get awkward🤔

upper tinsel May 13, 2019, 2:50 PM

#

I really don't understand why Google doesn't use supersonic frequencies more often to block that shit... They use it for pairing chromecasts for guest phones..

#

Or subsonic, whatever stuff we can't hear

clear ferry May 13, 2019, 2:51 PM

#

Sonic the hedgehog?

upper tinsel May 13, 2019, 2:51 PM

#

Sanic the hedgehog. 🦔 https://youtu.be/HQnjypbh4Yg

YouTube

SethBling

Sanic the Hedgehog in Minecraft

I made everyone's favorite blue hedgehog, Sanic! Datapack Download: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/sethbling/Downloads/DataPacks/sanic.zip SethBling Twit...

▶ Play video

valid halo May 13, 2019, 2:52 PM

#

isn't google home literally just listening for soundwaves that match the general idea of "hey Google"

#

it feels hard to filter for that

upper tinsel May 13, 2019, 2:53 PM

#

Yea, but they ran into issues with companies like Burger King taking advantage of it. Plus it's suppose to know who is using it.
You'd think on their own commercials they would include some sound that tells the Google Home "hey, don't activate".
Same thing for activating your phone and the Google Home

#

(e.g. https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/12/15259400/burger-king-google-home-ad-wikipedia )

The Verge

Burger King’s new ad forces Google Home to advertise the Whopper

Burger King is unveiling a horrible, genius, infuriating, hilarious, and maybe very poorly thought-out ad today that’s designed to intentionally set off Google Homes and Android phones.
The...

#

I'd love for them to use ultrasonic sounds from the Google Home to basically tell phones in the room to not activate when the wake phrase is heard. And the same could be used in their commercials. 🤷🏻‍♂️
https://developers.google.com/cast/docs/guest_mode

Google Developers

Guest Mode | Cast | Google Developers

light trout May 13, 2019, 2:58 PM

#

@clear ferry browsers are starting to block non-SSL?

clear ferry May 13, 2019, 2:59 PM

#

Aye, they have started giving error already, and by end of year I think chrome was supposed to do it, Firefox was either earlier or later

#

Read about it before Christmas somewhere

light trout May 13, 2019, 3:00 PM

#

got any links to this?

clear ferry May 13, 2019, 3:03 PM

#

Not right now, it might have been just speculation, but I'm pretty sure I saw a timeline somewhere 🤔

#

Some security peeps here might know if I'm wrong

valid halo May 13, 2019, 3:20 PM

#

No more http?

clear ferry May 13, 2019, 3:24 PM

#

One could hope

#

But we haven't got rid of either FTP or telnet yet 🤷

hearty depot May 13, 2019, 4:56 PM

#

lol 15m Load 17 🙈

clear ferry May 13, 2019, 9:09 PM

#

Watching a music dvd from 1993 and it's amazing to not see mobile phones in the crowds constantly

fossil river May 13, 2019, 10:14 PM

#

only lighters 😃

valid halo May 13, 2019, 10:29 PM

#

tfw when no one is taking a shitty video of the concert they'll never watch again

peak cloud May 14, 2019, 3:24 AM

#

@valid halo How're you liking 1P?

valid halo May 14, 2019, 3:24 AM

#

So far it seems alright. It's only been a day tho

peak cloud May 14, 2019, 3:24 AM

#

Lol, true.

#

I fell in love the first week.

hushed basalt May 14, 2019, 3:48 AM

#

Okay

#

Finally have my homeassistant on host network and behind a reverse proxy

#

Traefik is really hard to learn

civic ember May 14, 2019, 3:51 AM

#

What's the advantage of using Traefik?

hushed basalt May 14, 2019, 3:51 AM

#

It natively integrates into docker

#

So you can do stuff like automatically creating routes when containers go up or down

#

I haven't really used any other reverse proxies though

#

Do you mean what's the advantage of traefik vs other proxies. Or whats the advantage of traefik vs nothing

civic ember May 14, 2019, 3:56 AM

#

I still haven't started messing with docker containers so I don't know what issues there are.

#

That's the next "big" project. Either that or wiring my old home alarm to the raspberry pi.

#

I meant why do you need a reverse proxy in docker?

severe parcel May 14, 2019, 4:38 AM

#

Hi. Just wondering - shouldn't there be new release last week?

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 4:51 AM

#

@severe parcel schedule has changed recently, there were mentions in the podcast about it and there was a blog post

civic ember May 14, 2019, 4:55 AM

#

Hey guys I'm stuck at home and need a suggestion for a project to do this morning. It's between putting together a pc out of old parts, installing linux on it then Hassio on docker or wiring the GPIO of a raspberry pi to my old home alarm to integrate it into HA.

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 5:00 AM

#

Last one for sure, the other two are just boring 😛

civic ember May 14, 2019, 5:03 AM

#

Cool. I'll need 3 wires I'm thinking. 2 to close a switch on the alarm to activate/deactivate and 1 to get the state from the alarm.

#

Although I wonder if it will be a security issue if you can deactivate the alarm by jumping those cables 🤔

dusky nest May 14, 2019, 5:18 AM

#

Just a very general and quite fundamental question (which I guess can earn some bad-will?)
Why was this excellent and much appreciated group not created on Slack? This gamer IM/chat/talk platform don't seem to be as great for the purpose it seems to want to achieve? Slack seems to be a better service for the purpose.

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 5:31 AM

#

I've used slack, discord and teams, I enjoy discord by far 🤷

open hull May 14, 2019, 6:40 AM

#

there are ethics problems with slack https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3068611/slack-is-banning-people-whove-visited-us-sanctioned-countries

http://www.theinquirer.net

Slack is banning people who've visited US-sanctioned countries | T...

Cutting no slack,Controversy ,ban,slack

dusky nest May 14, 2019, 7:24 AM

#

@open hull - https://www.engadget.com/2018/12/22/iran-sanctions-slack/

Engadget

Slack apologizes for 'mistakenly' banning people who had visited Iran

After Slack banned users who had traveled to sanctioned countries, it apologized for the 'mistakes.'

#

@clear ferry - Yes this may be a good personal opinion but for purposes like sharing short snippets of code, threaded discussions and quick image uploads there are (in my, again, personal opinion) better tools than Discord that (if I with my limited experience) focuses on a gamer community.

#

I mostly wanted to raise the discussion and understand why the decision was made to use Discord instead of Slack.

light trout May 14, 2019, 7:28 AM

#

There is a HUGE drawback to slack (free version) you can only search the last 10000 mesages

#

Discord have image support (we have just disabled it for most channels (people posted images of text (log/config)))

#

Discord have code format

velvet horizonBOT May 14, 2019, 7:29 AM

#

To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks. Here's an example:

```
code here
```
Watch the animated gif here: https://bit.ly/2GbfRJE
DO NOT repeat posts. Please edit previously posted message, here is how -> https://bit.ly/2qOOf1G

light trout May 14, 2019, 7:30 AM

#

I personally like Slack, but I think Discord is a good fit for this community

dusky nest May 14, 2019, 7:34 AM

#

Thanks @light trout for the explanation.
Yes, I agree the 10k message limit is a bad drawback however a non-profit org like HA should get the benefit of a paid version for free, right? - Anyway switching now is probably way too late..

light trout May 14, 2019, 7:35 AM

#

I think they only give that to registerd non-profits

dusky nest May 14, 2019, 7:36 AM

#

Probably true.

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 7:37 AM

#

Red cross using discord? Sounds practical😂

light trout May 14, 2019, 7:37 AM

#

Before discord, we used gitter.im, this is a blog post from when we moved https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2017/07/03/home-assistant-is-moving-to-discord/

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 7:39 AM

#

can I change my Nicname on the forums?

light trout May 14, 2019, 7:40 AM

#

No, but send a DM to any of the mods there 😃

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 7:40 AM

#

@hearty depot get them to change it to Ludeeeus 😛

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 7:40 AM

#

already taken 😄

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 7:40 AM

#

More e's mean more experience

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 7:40 AM

#

but Ludeuus meight work 🤔

light trout May 14, 2019, 7:40 AM

#

I need to loose one e then 😦

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 7:41 AM

#

More u's mean more unexperienced 😞

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 7:41 AM

#

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.....uuuuuuuuuuunderknowledge 🤣

light trout May 14, 2019, 7:41 AM

#

better now @clear ferry ?

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 7:42 AM

#

❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤

#

Drinking coffee, eating a sandwich, looking out the window at the sun, while feeding the baby, on a Tuesday, nice 👌

#

📎 JPEG_20190514_094352.jpg

#

It's greening more and more every day

#

For any Americans who envy the socialist style of Europe, they should start working for HPE, the just introduced 26 weeks paid paternity and maternity leave for all employees worldwide 🙇

light trout May 14, 2019, 7:49 AM

#

Sooooo get job at HPE, then start the baby factory?

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 7:50 AM

#

factory? Think big or what?

light trout May 14, 2019, 7:50 AM

#

26 * X, can be a lot of weeks 😅

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 7:51 AM

#

Just need to space the babies out 😛

light trout May 14, 2019, 7:51 AM

#

Outsourcing?

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 7:51 AM

#

Talked to a colleague in the us a while back, his wife got 6 days after labor and he got 3 days, he was envious of my 40 weeks mindblown

light trout May 14, 2019, 7:52 AM

#

6 days?!?! 😮

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 7:52 AM

#

It was even a c section 🤔

light trout May 14, 2019, 7:52 AM

#

I have had hangovers that have lasted longer...

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 7:54 AM

#

I haven't even had 6 sickdays in 12 years 😂

dusky nest May 14, 2019, 7:56 AM

#

It's not just "Socialist Europe style" It's basically any other nation on this planet that gives a better maternity/paternity protection compared to the (supposedly) great US of A.

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 8:15 AM

#

21 day streak on Duolingo so far 🎉 🎉

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 9:08 AM

#

🤔

#

do I need a more powerful system?
https://hastebin.com/awiduraceb.coffeescript

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 9:13 AM

#

Well,anything is better than a pi 😉

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 9:18 AM

#

Its an 2011 machbook i7 🤷
People throwing this laptops away
got 2

#

But the dedicated Graphic card is broken on the I7
Got an other one with an I5 where the Dedicated graphic would work

light trout May 14, 2019, 9:19 AM

#

Remove ALL custom components and see if that helps

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 9:19 AM

#

Oh, that should be fine for any normal user 😛

#

Only thing that you can use the graphics card for is tensorflow anyway 🤷

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 9:20 AM

#

But I Want to use the custom components 🙈
but ll get it a try

light trout May 14, 2019, 9:21 AM

#

There is a reason you get a warning for all custom components you use telling you to remove/disable if you have preformance issues 😉

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 9:22 AM

#

I just saw an intel neuronal network stick or so - intresting concept

#

Just renaming the custom components folder should do the trick

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 9:34 AM

#

https://i.redd.it/wocy0kpg44y21.jpg

civic ember May 14, 2019, 9:36 AM

#

😁

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 9:40 AM

#

Deam - Its one of the custom components 🤦

light trout May 14, 2019, 9:42 AM

#

If I made one of them, it's probably that one 😉

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 9:45 AM

#

hey lud, don't make it bad, make a sad code or make it better, remember to let python into your heart, then you can start, to debug it better 🎹

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 9:46 AM

#

Got the platform: wienerlinien in suspicion

#

(but its the most used / usefule one)

light trout May 14, 2019, 9:47 AM

#

What does it do?

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 9:47 AM

#

It's a sausage app?

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 9:48 AM

#

asking the subway API for the next departures

#

https://github.com/custom-components/sensor.wienerlinien

GitHub

custom-components/sensor.wienerlinien

A sensor that give you information about next departure from spesified stop. - custom-components/sensor.wienerlinien

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 9:48 AM

#

Mmm Subway, it's almost 12 months since I was on the subway last

light trout May 14, 2019, 9:49 AM

#

That has a reasonable timeout, probably not the issue

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 9:50 AM

#

That was a nice short code

#

I actually understood most of it

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 9:52 AM

#

alexa_media & custom updater ar'nt the bad guys - next off is the youtube sensor

strange vapor May 14, 2019, 9:54 AM

#

https://asset-e.soup.io/asset/14432/7327_e022_390.jpeg Parenting win...

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 9:54 AM

#

Haha, I'm so gonna do that 😂 😂 😂

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 9:56 AM

#

heeeere you are!
https://github.com/custom-components/sensor.youtube
https://hastebin.com/tiliseqifa.http

GitHub

custom-components/sensor.youtube

A platform which give you info about the newest video on a channel - custom-components/sensor.youtube

light trout May 14, 2019, 10:01 AM

#

really?

#

That code is stupid, but really? that was your issue?

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 10:02 AM

#

apperently

#

well 10 sensords

#

one works

clear ferry May 14, 2019, 10:03 AM

#

All so you can get updates when your favourite Minecraft gamer puts out new videos😛

light trout May 14, 2019, 10:03 AM

#

Create an issue in that repo @hearty depot

#

https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/577792947211206657 😉

hearty depot May 14, 2019, 10:14 AM

#

@clear ferry yea.. sound about right 🤣

turbid basin May 14, 2019, 12:00 PM

#

does anyone know how to restart the openwrt_hass_devicetracker service in OpenWRT from Hass.io?
I dont know how to SSH to OpenWRT from Hassio 😕
command to restart is /etc/init.d/hass restart

#

link is: https://github.com/mueslo/openwrt_hass_devicetracker

GitHub

mueslo/openwrt_hass_devicetracker

Contribute to mueslo/openwrt_hass_devicetracker development by creating an account on GitHub.

midnight adder May 14, 2019, 6:02 PM

#

damn this is a fine pic

📎 3UcmL8a.png

modest wasp May 14, 2019, 10:51 PM

#

Sometimes it's hard to complete a home automation task because I find new things I could do and start researching that.

valid halo May 14, 2019, 10:53 PM

#

That's a BIG Mood

hidden finch May 15, 2019, 12:18 AM

#

Looks like I need to find a different thermostat soon

#

The more I read about this nest crap, the more it sounds like everyone is hosed

peak cloud May 15, 2019, 12:54 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

Anyone want a Fire TV remote for Lovelace? 😂

#

Red borders is temporary just to show placement.

valid halo May 15, 2019, 12:55 AM

#

Dude that's heckin neat

#

I don't own a FireTV but that's cool

peak cloud May 15, 2019, 12:56 AM

#

I wasn't happy with any of the custom cards for remotes, so I threw this together with a picture-elements card.

#

It's just wayyyyy too tall 😂

valid halo May 15, 2019, 1:00 AM

#

I think I'm gonna set HA as my internet home page

peak cloud May 15, 2019, 1:02 AM

#

Not a bad idea

tall pawn May 15, 2019, 1:22 AM

#

So my dad's garage got broken into over the weekend. The burglars taped the door to their bedroom that walks out onto the back deck where the garage is. They also placed some noisy stuff in front of the door to alert said burglars if they open it. They got away with a couple ipads, a laptop, cellphone, tools, and were going after his truck but couldn't find the keys.

I want to buy some some "smart home" stuff for home security to begin securing his house / garage. He's not very tech literate (he just got Google Mini's and loves them). I don't want something the requires home-assistant, but instead some stuff that can be monitored/managed through an app. Was thinking basic to start like camera/motion sensors face the doors in the garage, and the backyard. If motion is detected while away or overnight I'd like for them to be alerted, with the possibility of an alarm sounding. I know there's a lot of options out there but does anyone have recommendations on products they've used successfully? Also don't want a monthly contract

hushed basalt May 15, 2019, 1:29 AM

#

@tall pawn sorry to hear that sucks

#

Philips Hue stuff might be a popular easy solution

#

You would need a Hue Bridge but that's not a big deal

#

Then you could get their motion sensors and connect them to google home

#

IFTTT can be used to tie stuff together as well

#

Cameras are harder

#

I would use cameras to look after getting a motion alert from the motion sensors

#

False positives are pretty common on camera motion detection

#

You can also use door/window sensors as well

#

I haven't used Philip Hue myself though. It's pricey but it's common as hell which usually means it's more refined

tall pawn May 15, 2019, 1:34 AM

#

hm, I have Hue stuff but I never considered it for a "security" solution

#

I was looking at Ring, Nest, Abode, Yi Outdoor Camera

hushed basalt May 15, 2019, 1:35 AM

#

I would look at whatever works best with Google Home

#

But false positive alerts on cameras will annoy them

#

Also prevention is the best cure

#

Look at practical stuff like motion triggered lights outside, less places for bad guys to hide, etc

#

Deadlocks that can't be taped

tall pawn May 15, 2019, 1:38 AM

#

Yeah, I was sort of hoping there'd be some solution like cameras that have options on when to alert and when not to. A camera facing the garage to record any "creepers" would be nice, but don't need alerts for it. Inside the garage however having motion/camera facing the doors seems like it would avoid false alerts. Assuming that it's "armed" only when away or in bed

#

Deterrent is definitely more important

hushed basalt May 15, 2019, 1:39 AM

#

If the light level is the same it should be okay

#

But a lot of cameras will alert when it changes to night vision, or a car driving past shines through a window, etc

tall pawn May 15, 2019, 1:40 AM

#

yeah tell me about it, my Ring doorbell camera is annoying

#

Abode looks nice but seems a little hard to get a hold of in Canada

hushed basalt May 15, 2019, 1:56 AM

#

Personally I'd use less 'smart' cameras

#

Generic CCTV IP cameras will generally be better quality for cheaper

#

And you'll need a NVR if you want to record anyways

#

But it doesn't have to be an all at once thing too

#

Start outside. Assess the house for weaknesses.

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 3:59 AM

#

Blindspots 😛

civic ember May 15, 2019, 4:57 AM

#

A simple motion-triggered bright outdoor light goes a long way to improving security.

#

Also do not underestimate dummy cameras

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 5:07 AM

#

@civic ember nor me making barking sounds

#

😂

peak cloud May 15, 2019, 5:08 AM

#

My Xiaomi gateway used to play the dog sound when motion was detected on my front porch 😂

#

Man, I miss that thing.

#

I knew I was going to regret selling ~~all~~ most of my home automation stuff.

#

I am going on two years of being without a fully automated home. 😦

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 5:10 AM

#

@peak cloud gotta tell you, I sometimes associate music with people as a memory reflex, and whenever I see your nick all I think of is Peter Gabriel - Steam mindblown

peak cloud May 15, 2019, 5:10 AM

#

Please do not hate me, but I have no idea who that is, nor that song.

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 5:11 AM

#

I did expect that, but please check it is a out

#

😂

peak cloud May 15, 2019, 5:11 AM

#

(listening now)

#

Oh man, is this from like the 1930s or something? 😂

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 5:12 AM

#

Haha it's 90s or maybe late 80s

peak cloud May 15, 2019, 5:18 AM

#

Not gonna like, I very much enjoyed that song. Read the lyrics as I listened to it, though.

#

And curious -- do you know why (and if so, why?) you associate that song to me?

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 5:46 AM

#

hi everyone, new noob here!

peak cloud May 15, 2019, 5:50 AM

#

HIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE @coral coyote!!!

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 5:53 AM

#

i'm new to all this, and i find it pretty challenging

#

i managed to install home assistant yesterday on my freenas server, and fought with permissions until now it's all up and running

peak cloud May 15, 2019, 5:54 AM

#

I can definitely understand your frustration. How can we be of assistance today?

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 5:54 AM

#

i'm looking to connect my first application: plex. I would like my home assistant to at least pick up the status of playback

#

i understand i should use the "sensor" part of the Plex component, correct?

#

my aim is to write a script that turns on the lights when Playback=pause and sun=below horizon

#

also, when i want to restart hass, clickling call service on Homeassistant.service does not work anymore, what did I break this time?

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:00 AM

#

Go to configuration then general then click the "check config" button to check that

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:01 AM

#

"Configuration valid!"

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:02 AM

#

No errors in info (bottom left of the screen)?

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:06 AM

#

📎 Screen_Shot_2019-05-15_at_08.06.04.png

#

i got one error for permissions that i should be able to fix, but no idea about the others

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:07 AM

#

All those could actually be premission related too

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:08 AM

#

i doubt those are related to the restart issue though

#

it was working fine yesterday before i started pressing random buttons

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:08 AM

#

They should not be

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:09 AM

#

are you familiar with the spotify integration?

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:09 AM

#

"familiar" I tried it about 1,5y ago, what's your question?

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:10 AM

#

i am trying to set it up, following the instructions on hass's site

#

it picks up the config correctly, asks me to connect to spotify, but when i click the link to sync i get this error

#

INVALID_CLIENT: Invalid redirect URI

#

https://accounts.spotify.com/authorize?client_id=BLABLABLA&response_type=code&redirect_uri=http%3A%2F%2F192.168.1.7%3A8123%2Fapi%2Fspotify&scope=user-modify-playback-state+user-read-playback-state+user-read-private

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:11 AM

#

Make sure you use the url from the example on the doc page in the Spotify developer settings

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:11 AM

#

this is the link it's trying to send me to (blablabla is mine). the http%3A does not sound correct

#

yes i used that

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:12 AM

#

%3A is just encoding, that's normal

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:13 AM

#

ok then i have no idea 😉

#

in the "Redirect URIs" what port should i add?

#

i understand i should put the public ip of my server, is the port the default hass port 8123?

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:15 AM

#

You need to use the exact same thing as you use to connect to home assistant

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:16 AM

#

but with the public ip instead of the local ip, correct?

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:16 AM

#

When you access home assistant do you use local ip or public IP?

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:16 AM

#

at the moment locally

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:17 AM

#

Then you should set it to local

quartz ether May 15, 2019, 6:17 AM

#

Oh FYI @peak cloud had to cut you from my plex 😛 I have hit the 100 users cap so culling people who never used it haha

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:17 AM

#

There is a limit? 😮

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:18 AM

#

thanks @light trout that worked 😉

quartz ether May 15, 2019, 6:18 AM

#

Yea lol... Found that out the other day.. .turned the guest account on for the house sitter and went to share libraries and it was like umm nooo 100 people max shares

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:19 AM

#

Lol 😂

quartz ether May 15, 2019, 6:19 AM

#

Which I was like umm the guest isnt even a real account but what ever. So now the cull

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 6:19 AM

#

@peak cloud I do not, probably because of your profile picture, but my memory works in strange ways, I've never been diagnosed, but I believe I'm touching the spectrum somehow 😂

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:21 AM

#

@light trout now i have a different problem, i clicked 2 times too many and now i have 3 statuses of spotify in my home page 😉

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:22 AM

#

Luxury issue 😅

#

There should be a file containing spotify in the root of your config for, delete that, restart and try again

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 6:22 AM

#

Aah morning swim complete 🎉

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:23 AM

#

📎 Screen_Shot_2019-05-15_at_08.23.22.png

#

not that i can see it

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 6:24 AM

#

< .spotify> perhaps 🤷

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:24 AM

#

It's a hidden file

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 6:24 AM

#

Wow that formatting got shot down

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:26 AM

#

jesus i thought i was decent at life. how do i show hidden files on mac?

#

really losing this battle 0-10

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:26 AM

#

@peak cloud @peak cloud @peak cloud we need your expertise here 😃

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 6:27 AM

#

I touched a Mac in 2011 last 😂

#

And then only by console

vale slate May 15, 2019, 6:27 AM

#

command shift . (period)

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:28 AM

#

found 😉

#

📎 Screen_Shot_2019-05-15_at_08.28.30.png

#

can't see any relevant file for spotify

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:29 AM

#

You are joking?

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 6:29 AM

#

The one you are highlighting? 😂

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:29 AM

#

the cache?

light trout May 15, 2019, 6:29 AM

#

Yup 👍

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:30 AM

#

The Finder can’t complete the operation because some data in “.spotify-token-cache” can’t be read or written.
(Error code -36)

#

fantastic

#

any ideas how to do it?

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 6:32 AM

#

Long live console 😉

#

Guessing you are not opining the share with the same user that owns the file

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:33 AM

#

i am

#

nevermind, now there's only one spotify status in the home page

#

voodoo magic

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 6:34 AM

#

computer says no 😛

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:35 AM

#

computer is so smart it fixed it himself

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 6:36 AM

#

Did you just assume it's gender? 🤔 😄

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:36 AM

#

it's a big bulky square of a microserver, if it was a woman it would be ugly

#

so i'm assuming it's the Mister T of microservers

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 6:37 AM

#

pity the fool!

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:37 AM

#

ok so who wants to help this noob with the plex integration now?

#

i want to set up hass to read the status of the plex server, to recognize at least play and pause

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 6:38 AM

#

You gotta try yourself at least once 😛

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:38 AM

#

yes, tried it already

#

what do you think the outcome was?

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 6:38 AM

#

Oh right, you are a Mac user 😛 😘

#

Have you read the docs? It's not very advanced

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:40 AM

#

ahah, i deserve that

#

i used to fiddle around with computers quite a while ago

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 6:40 AM

#

FBI? Yeah this guy over here, the computer fiddler you were looking for

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 6:41 AM

#

and just like that the restart call function works again

#

black magic

#

i'm so good at this

#

what movie was that fbi quote from again? the one with brad pitt?

#

📎 Screen_Shot_2019-05-15_at_08.49.27.png

#

"error loading plex" but cannot figure out which file it's referring to

#

perhaps plex.conf?

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 7:06 AM

#

anyone that can/wants to help me with this plex integration? I'm following the instructions from https://www.home-assistant.io/components/plex/ but i'm failing hard

Home Assistant

Plex

Instructions on how to integrate Plex into Home Assistant.

quartz ether May 15, 2019, 7:16 AM

#

Was meant to fix my install today and move it all into a docker.... Didn't even get time to download the docker... love life.

midnight adder May 15, 2019, 7:48 AM

#

Hi all,

#

I switched from Domoticz first to Homey. As this was a drama I learned about Home Assistant. Now installed on Rpi 3b works great but I still need to learn a lot

peak cloud May 15, 2019, 8:42 AM

#

@light trout @light trout @light trout @light trout @light trout @light trout @light trout @light trout @light trout @light trout @light trout @light trout @light trout @light trout

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 8:57 AM

#

@peak cloud @peak cloud @peak cloud @peak cloud

peak cloud May 15, 2019, 8:57 AM

#

@clear ferry

#

@clear ferry

#

@clear ferry

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 8:58 AM

#

❤

peak cloud May 15, 2019, 8:58 AM

#

Y U WAKE ME?

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 8:58 AM

#

Don't look at me it was that traitor @light trout

peak cloud May 15, 2019, 8:58 AM

#

(I wasn’t really asleep, haha)

#

Ohhhhh, suuuuure

#

I am already in bed and about to go to sleep. “Don’t tag/mention me anymore tonight”

hushed basalt May 15, 2019, 9:47 AM

#

Whats your all opinion of pure yaml configuration vs configuration of things inside home assistant

proven spruce May 15, 2019, 9:47 AM

#

i kinda like the gui config... you can still edit the code but sometimes its easier to use the dropdowns to find entities

hushed basalt May 15, 2019, 9:48 AM

#

Indeed

#

I guess the downside is it's not source control friendly

#

To use the gui

strange vapor May 15, 2019, 9:49 AM

#

I'm an awkward git, so I tend to stick with Yaml so I understand what's going on underneath. Probably comes from a background where everything is code these days, and with the right tools it's a hell of a lot faster to search a few yaml and json files.

hearty depot May 15, 2019, 9:54 AM

#

I also stick to yaml - mostly because I cant use !include in the storage mode - and for more advanced cards the storage mode is a pain
Would still live to use both
sorting is just nice
https://i.imgur.com/5Cwon1L.png

Imgur

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 9:56 AM

#

@hushed basalt I go yaml when I can, I prefer it there if I need to restore a configuration, the integrations wont restore as easy I suppose

hushed basalt May 15, 2019, 9:56 AM

#

I like pure yaml, it feels more 12 factor

#

And I can use CICD tools to deploy it

strange vapor May 15, 2019, 10:00 AM

#

HomeAssisstant should still work on making damn sure that config via the UI is very much possible! We're likely the exceptions, the majority of sane people do like their point and click, and for good reason!

#

Just don't break Yaml in the process for the awkward gits 😄

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 10:02 AM

#

point and click 😪

#

as a cli-man I hate it

hushed basalt May 15, 2019, 10:02 AM

#

I wish I could define windows with yaml

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 10:03 AM

#

powershell will have to do!

hushed basalt May 15, 2019, 10:03 AM

#

Ansible isn't really there on win10

strange vapor May 15, 2019, 10:03 AM

#

@clear ferry I was going to say point and drool, but that would be a bit unfair!

hushed basalt May 15, 2019, 10:03 AM

#

Chocolatey can go die in a fire

#

Although Ubuntu feels like YetAnotherAptRepository a lot

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 10:04 AM

#

I just hate the lack of feedback from most gui based stuff, I never know if it is actually doing anything or if it is bugging out for some reason

hushed basalt May 15, 2019, 10:04 AM

#

I was speaking to a guy today who runs a software company for school administration

#

A monolith app with msi installers to run on windows 'servers'

#

I'm glad I missed that period of software

#

Cloud native microservices for the win

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 10:05 AM

#

lol, we never did that when I worked with schools, we just pushed msi's via gpo 🤷

#

and had standard policies per school \ per area

hushed basalt May 15, 2019, 10:06 AM

#

As he his company writes one piece of software

#

That schools use

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 10:06 AM

#

I managed 55 schools, so there were a few policies 😓

hushed basalt May 15, 2019, 10:06 AM

#

He was talking about how they're thinking about moving to the cloud

#

But they're no where near ready for that

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 10:07 AM

#

Btw, did we kill @clever mortar ? 🤷

velvet horizonBOT May 15, 2019, 10:07 AM

#

Tinkerer is away for 3d 18h 43m 52s with a message :point_right: Planes, trains, and automobiles... I'll be back, eventually.

hushed basalt May 15, 2019, 10:11 AM

#

But yes I agree

#

Homeasisstant should definitely go down the gui route

#

But please keep it yamlable

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 10:34 AM

#

anyone here who tinkered with the Plex integration that could help me?

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 10:34 AM

#

I touched it once, what is the problem ?

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 10:34 AM

#

been trying to figure it out since this morning, but i can't make it work

#

basically i'm stuck at making hass discover the plex server

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 10:34 AM

#

I use the tautulli component for tracking usage

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 10:34 AM

#

https://www.home-assistant.io/components/plex/

Home Assistant

Plex

Instructions on how to integrate Plex into Home Assistant.

#

i am trying to follow this guide

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 10:35 AM

#

aye, so it should discover it automatically if you have discovery: in your configuration.yaml

#

and then it should show up under integrations

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 10:36 AM

#

ok that is the part i definitely missed. i didn't know i needed discovery: in config

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 10:36 AM

#

You don't need it, but it makes it easier

#

You can create it manually with :

  - platform: plex```

#

then create the plex.conf file in your /config folder with the contents of {"IP_ADDRESS:PORT": {"token": "TOKEN", "ssl": false, "verify": true}}

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 10:37 AM

#

done both

#

media_player:

platform: spotify
client_id: 28bf93ca95c449f9b1ff718e1b569467
client_secret: 86e7ab1f7b434770ac05be92b56446c1
platform: onkyo
host: 192.168.1.2
name: Onkyo Amplifier
platform: webostv
platform: plex
host: 192.168.1.21
port: 32400

#

this is what i have in config. Onkyo, WebosTV and Spotify are running fine. Plex does not show up anywhere even in the dev tools

#

i made a plex.config file with {"192.168.1.21:32400"} as content

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 10:39 AM

#

the ip and port is not to be placed in configuration.yaml I belive you would put it in the plex.conf file with {"192.168.1.21:32400": {"token": "TOKEN", "ssl": false, "verify": true}}

#

you also need to see if you actually use SSL then toggle that

#

and if you certificate is self signed you need to set verify to false

#

and you need to put the token in that file also

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 10:40 AM

#

i had all that stuff in earlier, then i read it's "optional", will try your way

#

should i put discovery: somewhere?

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 10:40 AM

#

not if you configure it manually

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 10:40 AM

#

ok

#

if i were to try with discovery:
should I remove plex.conf file?

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 10:43 AM

#

yes, and the media_player line also

#

https://www.home-assistant.io/components/discovery/

Home Assistant

Discovery

Instructions on how to setup Home Assistant to discover new devices.

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 10:44 AM

#

i changed according to your suggestion but still i don't see plex anywhere

#

in dev-state I can see spotify, onkyo and the rest. but not plex

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 10:45 AM

#

have you restarted HA after changing ?

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 10:45 AM

#

yeah

#

looking at the log there is no mention of plex

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 10:45 AM

#

let me check my plex, I haven't integrated it

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 10:59 AM

#

what is the syntax to enable discovery?

Just "discovery:" in a new line?

hearty depot May 15, 2019, 11:02 AM

#

all set up plex xD

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 11:03 AM

#

what do you mean?

hearty depot May 15, 2019, 11:04 AM

#

I just start to integrate plex too

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 11:04 AM

#

do you remember which steps you took?

hearty depot May 15, 2019, 11:05 AM

#

just starting

#

mhmm.. not working well so far

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 11:22 AM

#

@coral coyote so I tested

#

Discovery did not work

#

but manually adding worked fine

#

all I have is the following in configuration.yaml ```
media_player:

platform: plex


and in `plex.conf`
``` {
    "192.168.1.x:32400": {
        "ssl": false,
        "token": "W12345677",
        "verify": false
    }
}

#

then the configuration button appears in the states UI

hearty depot May 15, 2019, 11:44 AM

#

How you'd get the token?

light trout May 15, 2019, 11:44 AM

#

carefully

sacred hornet May 15, 2019, 11:48 AM

#

hey guys

#

weird issue here

#

im using esphome to log my temp / humidy through a sonoff basic with the DHT11

#

esphome is updating eacch minute, as per the logs visable

#

but the HA logger keeps dropping the value, and only updates at random timelimes

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 11:49 AM

#

I still haven't managed to make HA recognize plex

light trout May 15, 2019, 11:50 AM

#

Use webhooks instead, much faster

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 11:50 AM

#

@clear ferry my token looks very different than that

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 11:50 AM

#

That is normal, I obscured mine

#

@hearty depot by reading the docs carefully

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 11:52 AM

#

ok thanks

#

i had discovery on, i removed my old plex.conf file and it created a new one by itself. That makes me think something is moving

#

it picked up the right server because it wrote the correct IP, just the token is missing. but the file is locked and I can't write

untold cypress May 15, 2019, 11:54 AM

#

Hey does anyone know of any devices or systems where I can have a smart button that also shows configurable feedback? I have "house modes" bound to binary inputs in hass and I'd like a real life mirror of hose switches so that you can see if they are off or on via LED or something.

hearty depot May 15, 2019, 11:54 AM

#

claim-HSxxxxx or only HSxxxxx?

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 11:55 AM

#

claim-hsxxxxx

hearty depot May 15, 2019, 11:55 AM

#

working already over there?

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 11:55 AM

#

@hearty depot only the part after - should be used

#

Not the claim- bit

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 11:55 AM

#

no it's not working yet for me, but i just came back for lunch

#

ok thanks @clear ferry

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 11:57 AM

#

@untold cypress if you are in the us there is a self building one, I don't remember the URL, but @light trout might remember, the ha-switchplate that luma made

#

Found it https://github.com/aderusha/HASwitchPlate

GitHub

aderusha/HASwitchPlate

LCD touchscreen for Home Automation. Contribute to aderusha/HASwitchPlate development by creating an account on GitHub.

hearty depot May 15, 2019, 12:05 PM

#

:/

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 12:05 PM

#

were you able to make it work @hearty depot

#

?

#

i am now able to see chrome is playing music from plex

hearty depot May 15, 2019, 12:08 PM

#

nope

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 12:09 PM

#

i was surprised nothing was visible until i left chrome playing from plex (streaming) and then redoing it from scratch

#

I can see but cannot control Plex Media Player, is that correct behavior?

📎 Screen_Shot_2019-05-15_at_14.10.10.png

unkempt lantern May 15, 2019, 12:19 PM

#

Made this video to share a few things I was able to make with home assistant and the continuous help from many wonderful people of this community , it is in Spanish but there is not much to explain . https://youtu.be/S2bs1lH_MG4 .

YouTube

Canal de GUS

what can be automated at home?

what can we automate at home? how that works ? how to do it? This is the first part , of WHAT could we automate at home.

▶ Play video

sacred hornet May 15, 2019, 12:20 PM

#

okay, i figured it out, its not "force updating" the values, its only doing it on value change

orchid rose May 15, 2019, 12:30 PM

#

I don't understand a word, but that's pretty cool gus

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 12:31 PM

#

PORQUE? MARIA! POR FAVOR 🇪🇸

#

I do not know a lot of spanish, but I know enough to get around in spanish speaking countries when I have to resort to local language 😄

bright gyro May 15, 2019, 1:09 PM

#

is .93 being released today?

velvet horizonBOT May 15, 2019, 1:17 PM

#

:8ball: 8Ball prdiction:

Question: is .93 being released today?
Answer: No

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 1:22 PM

#

computer says no

strange vapor May 15, 2019, 1:26 PM

#

I need to step away from the computer. Trying to debug an issue with a VM running nginx. Couldn't figure out why it wasn't starting. As it turns out, nginx gets cranky if you ask it to tart 😦

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 1:27 PM

#

hahah

#

damn nginx, hates pastry

#

now I know why I prefer apache 🤔

strange vapor May 15, 2019, 1:27 PM

#

Does Apache like tart?

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 1:28 PM

#

it atleast tells me I'm a tard if I try to shove pastry in it's face 🤷

hearty depot May 15, 2019, 1:44 PM

#

just found strange containers ``` docker ps -a

a4fdcd3089f0 e2942a7e4eb2 "/bin/entry.sh pytho…" 2 months ago Exited (0) 2 months ago inspiring_ganguly
1bc3338ff7fb e2942a7e4eb2 "/bin/bash" 2 months ago Exited (0) 2 months ago frosty_noether

light trout May 15, 2019, 1:45 PM

#

Someone is not cleaning up after testing things 😁

hearty depot May 15, 2019, 1:46 PM

#

who meight be not me....

light trout May 15, 2019, 1:47 PM

#

Your server, your responsibility

hearty depot May 15, 2019, 1:47 PM

#

cant argue with that

#

clue how to inspect?

#

(without starting)

velvet horizonBOT May 15, 2019, 1:55 PM

#

:point_up: Let me Google that for you...

Here @hallow stratus , try this:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=adguard+home+free

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 1:55 PM

#

@hearty depot a good rule is, if you don't know it, delete it, also check logs to which user created it

light trout May 15, 2019, 1:56 PM

#

Root 🤷‍♀️

hearty depot May 15, 2019, 1:57 PM

#

image: Image homeassistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant@sha256:e2942a7e4eb ?..

#

strange name for ha

#

well happy so far I guess

light trout May 15, 2019, 2:00 PM

#

It's autogenerated by docker when you don't give it a name

vale slate May 15, 2019, 2:09 PM

#

Question: if you have an automation named "test" will it simply never run?

unreal orbit May 15, 2019, 2:12 PM

#

Why would it not run?

light trout May 15, 2019, 2:13 PM

#

Because it's a test

unreal orbit May 15, 2019, 2:13 PM

#

Doesn't seem like much of a test if you can't test it

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 2:16 PM

#

I'll create an automation called "Always-on" then @light trout or even one called "Feed-Me" 🤔

light trout May 15, 2019, 2:16 PM

#

Beer-me?

vale slate May 15, 2019, 2:17 PM

#

Is this an undocumented "feature"

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 2:17 PM

#

Where can I buy you a beer ?

vale slate May 15, 2019, 2:17 PM

#

albeit a bad one

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 2:17 PM

#

@vale slate Suggest reading about what an alias is

vale slate May 15, 2019, 2:17 PM

#

show me the way 😃

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 2:18 PM

#

a false name used to conceal one's identity; an assumed name:

#

it's not a function

#

or a descriptive of what it ACTUALLY will do necessarily

vale slate May 15, 2019, 2:21 PM

#

Right, listen. Programing languages have lists of reserved words. If there are reserved words for names of things should that not be in the documentation. The idea that a script named test does not run is intuitive, but only after the fact and only because I have a programing background did I even make this leap.

light trout May 15, 2019, 2:22 PM

#

No matter what you call an automation, it will not stop it from running

vale slate May 15, 2019, 2:22 PM

#

an automation named test will not run

light trout May 15, 2019, 2:22 PM

#

it will

unreal orbit May 15, 2019, 2:22 PM

#

Is it turned on?

light trout May 15, 2019, 2:22 PM

#

All my automations (when I have one) have allways (for the past year) been named test

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 2:23 PM

#

I had two automations at the same time called 'test' at one point 🤣

vale slate May 15, 2019, 2:23 PM

#

Ok so right now if I name the automation test, it fails if I name it brew coffee it works

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 2:23 PM

#

show me what you got

vale slate May 15, 2019, 2:23 PM

#

literaly that is all im changing

velvet horizonBOT May 15, 2019, 2:23 PM

#

@vale slate To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks. Here's an example:

```
code here
```
Watch the animated gif here: https://bit.ly/2GbfRJE
DO NOT repeat posts. Please edit previously posted message, here is how -> https://bit.ly/2qOOf1G

vale slate May 15, 2019, 2:24 PM

#

could this be an artifact of doing it through the interface in the configuration menu?

#

vs directly writing a yaml file

unreal orbit May 15, 2019, 2:25 PM

#

Lots of screwy things can happen with UI automations

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 2:26 PM

#

General tip, don't use UI automations 🤷

unreal orbit May 15, 2019, 2:27 PM

#

Name the automation test again, then check in states for the automation

vale slate May 15, 2019, 2:31 PM

#

@unreal orbit It shows up, but in the off state!

light trout May 15, 2019, 2:32 PM

#

turn it on then 😉

unreal orbit May 15, 2019, 2:41 PM

#

Which is exactly what I asked to begin with 😉

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 2:42 PM

#

Oof I need to do this

#

Finally got my Floorplan working properly (with overlapping lightning, tv source and daytime/night) - https://v.redd.it/jijwx2sgz7y21

r/homeassistant - Finally got my Floorplan working properly (with ...

301 votes and 64 comments so far on Reddit

orchid rose May 15, 2019, 2:48 PM

#

I've been working on mine slowly, but I'm not sure how to do the overlapping lights properly, especially with RGB lights

vale slate May 15, 2019, 2:59 PM

#

@unreal orbit Thank you for the extra clue to look in <> I'm fairly new and it was the part I was missing

unreal orbit May 15, 2019, 3:02 PM

#

No problem. Just trust that most of the people replying to you know what they're talking about (for the most part 😉 )

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 3:09 PM

#

Nice suddenly a wild $20 mill project appears, that requires ansibel and more, thank God I've been studying YAML for a while now 😂

peak cloud May 15, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

It always makes me chuckle when my girlfriend says, “Alexa, fuck off” — she setup a routine to turn everything off with this. 😂

unreal orbit May 15, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

It's pretty amazing how easily the swear filter is bypassed in the Echo. Just add a silent letter to a word and she will swear like a sailor

valid halo May 15, 2019, 5:20 PM

#

Ooh floor plan

#

I made a floor plan but haven't set anything up yet in HA

clear ferry May 15, 2019, 5:47 PM

#

Do we have the same ~~girlfriend~~ wife ? Mine also just yells fuck off to all assistants 😂

peak cloud May 15, 2019, 6:09 PM

#

Hahaha, glad they’re not alone!

snow oar May 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

#

I know this might be a little off point. But I’m after some advice. I’m looking to run a CAT5E cable from my living room to the attic running along the outside wall. Can someone advise on the type of cable I need and if there are any types I need to avoid, thanks in advance from the uk

vale slate May 15, 2019, 7:23 PM

#

@snow oar : go 6 or 6a if possible, and run 2 sets. Make sure your ground at both ends is the same (this is a big deal) and you get a bit of future proofing. Your local building code is going to be a bit pedantic on what you can run in a wall/attic, and is going to be foucsed on your local fire regulation/prevention more than anything else. While your doing the install rent or borrow a GOOD cable tester (you will likely never need this item again) and test the connection once it is in place.

snow oar May 15, 2019, 7:27 PM

#

Thanks @vale slate

vale slate May 15, 2019, 7:28 PM

#

I will say this, do you really need the bandwidth a cable provides to that location

coral coyote May 15, 2019, 7:29 PM

#

i might sound like a broken record, but is there someone experienced with plex? i am looking to start the "last episode" of a series in an automation, and cannot figure out the service syntax

strange vapor May 15, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

https://github.com/stewartmcgown/uds Free storage on Google Drive if base64 encoded 🤔

GitHub

stewartmcgown/uds

Unlimited Drive Storage by splitting binary files into base64 - stewartmcgown/uds

sage timber May 15, 2019, 9:03 PM

#

Anyone got a recommendation for a cheap / reliable occupancy sensor? Been thinking about setting up internal CCTV and using motion detect to signal occupancy but at the same time im not sure how I feel about having cameras in my home. (ugly and dont like the thought of being recorded)

hearty depot May 15, 2019, 9:21 PM

#

I like the zigbee ones - the Xiaomi ones are dem ceap - downside you either need an hub or a cc2531 or so

plucky sparrow May 15, 2019, 10:42 PM

#

@sage timber Motion sensor detects motion, its not enough for occupancy. I'm looking for a cheap occupancy sensor too, I think does not exist yet.
If motion is enough, the xiaomi work great with my cc2531.

lone vale May 16, 2019, 1:57 AM

#

should the VMDK download file end in vmdk.gz?
i have having trouble installing hassio on my oracle VM
when i navigate to the file

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 4:25 AM

#

If it is a .gz file you need to extract it first @lone vale

#

@sage timber tinkerer has quite a good description of occupancy, don't mix activity with occupancy, he looks at what People are doing rather than if they are moving to detect occupancy 😉

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 9:40 AM

#

where is he btw? missing him already

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 9:41 AM

#

day 4 of my HASSIo install, finally got z-wave to respond. Then, something happened and the entire HASSIO won't boot. I can get console access, but no SSH (disabled) and the web front end doesn't load. Any ideas?

#

i'm absolutely bent... :/

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 9:41 AM

#

hassos?

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 9:41 AM

#

yes

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 9:43 AM

#

there I`m happy that I have ubuntu in the front
direct access to al is neat - this meight get you access

https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/en/hassio_debugging.html#hassos-based-hassio

Debugging Hass.io · Home Assistant dev docs

This section is not for end users. End users should use the [SSH add-on] to SSH into Hass.io. This is for developers of Hass.io. Do not ask for support if you are using these options.

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 9:45 AM

#

"From the UI, navigate to the hass.io system page and choose "Import from USB""

#

i cannot even do step one

#

i'm at a hassio login: prompt

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 9:45 AM

#

tl:dr
Create an ssh key file - name this authorized_keys - put it on an FAT usb stick and name it CONFIG and let the machine boot up
(never had to use this)
but when I understood it right the os takes while booting config files

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 9:45 AM

#

i can login as root but that's about it

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 9:46 AM

#

well thats neat already
try docker exec -it homeassistant /bin/bash

#

and then tail -f home-assistant.log

#

maybe there is an info already

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 9:47 AM

#

Error: unknown command "docker" for "hassio"

#

unknown command tail

#

i'm not inside the HA docker instance.

#

i'm in hassos

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 9:48 AM

#

hassio homeassistant logs

#

just asking me - what do you get with ls ? are you already in the /config folder?

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 9:49 AM

#

yeah, got a ton there

#

ls doesn't work. i'm not at a traditional shell

#

hang on

#

this gave something

#

"homeassistant logs"

#

looks like an error in config

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 9:50 AM

#

guessed so

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 9:50 AM

#

lemme see if I can take a picture

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 9:51 AM

#

just tryed to install a pre alpha custom component.
Got Hassio into hell

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 9:51 AM

#

i was merely adding z-wave devices into my network

#

📎 unknown.png

#

any clue?

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 9:53 AM

#

not yet - can you scroll up?

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 9:53 AM

#

no

#

i can try to record it on my phone and pause. haha

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 9:54 AM

#

homeassistant check could get you an output too

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 9:55 AM

#

absolutely gutted.

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 9:55 AM

#

lets go to #330990055533576204 maybe somone else see something

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 9:56 AM

#

there. Thanks

#

hmm, can't seem to post screen captures there.

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:00 AM

#

done

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:00 AM

#

and of course, like a newb, i had no backups despite having multiple SDcards laying around.

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:00 AM

#

I guess its just an setup error

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:01 AM

#

yes, likely, everything was fine 30 minutes ago

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:01 AM

#

can you change the config this way?

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:03 AM

#

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/edit-configuration-yaml-from-hassio-cli/76984/9

Home Assistant Community

Edit configuration.yaml from hassio CLI?

yeah i think i got ahead of myself into configuration before i actually made sure SMB and SSH were actually working… noob stubs his toe

#

looking at this, no SSH and SMB, and only CLI. I'm hosed

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:03 AM

#

here - my absulute best issue
https://github.com/custom-components/custom_updater/issues/100

GitHub

Attempted install brakes the domain scripts · Issue #100 · custo...

none Describe the bug Attempted the install of the component. Set up the configuration and parts of lovelace. then hit restart. Scripts stopped working and still try to get it back working - No oth...

#

tl:dr
set up a custom component
came on the enter button ans saved an file - tryed 2 hours around for nothing

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:06 AM

#

what's interesting is that I can ping the sysetm but SSH was never enabled

#

looks like i'm doing this configuration again.

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:07 AM

#

😉 https://github.com/sabeechen/hassio-google-drive-backup

GitHub

sabeechen/hassio-google-drive-backup

Automatically create and sync Hass.io snapshots into Google Drive - sabeechen/hassio-google-drive-backup

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:08 AM

#

Maybe silly question but....

I have a server at home that is on 24x7. Would you recommend using a vmware esxi HASSio with external z-wave stick versus a raspberry pi?

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:09 AM

#

of cause

#

but I would just install it on the host machine (after I dont have an server supported by ESXi)

Nice install script
https://gist.github.com/frenck/32b4f74919ca6b95b30c66f85976ec58

Gist

Simple install command for installing Hass.io on a Generic Ubuntu/...

Simple install command for installing Hass.io on a Generic Ubuntu/Debian machine - hassio_ubuntu_install_commands.sh

low harness May 16, 2019, 10:10 AM

#

A raspberry is a good starting point. If you already have a real computer running there's no reason at all not to use it.

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:10 AM

#

prefer virtual so I can back it up easy i think

#

thomasloven - I'm going to need a raspbeery upstairs as z-wave doesn't seem to go through my walls.

low harness May 16, 2019, 10:11 AM

#

It'll still probably run better in the corner of a real computer than in an entire raspi.

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:11 AM

#

i guess the good thing about Ubuntu is that I have full access to the OS in case I mess something up, right?

low harness May 16, 2019, 10:11 AM

#

Not that it runs badly on a raspberry.

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:12 AM

#

I also have 2 HA instances

one is taking care of my lights with an cc zigbee stick and the other one runs all other stuff

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:13 AM

#

well, i only have 1 server so the sysetm upstairs will be just a z-wave box. The Tuya integration, MQTT server will be on the server

#

just really upset that I have to do all this again..... Ugh...

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:14 AM

#

I feel ya

orchid rose May 16, 2019, 10:14 AM

#

what's the reason for having two HAs? Range?

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:14 AM

#

is there a comparison of HA on Ubuntu versus Hassio? I like the simplicity of installing integrations on HASSIO but this episode today where it won't boot is crushing

#

Mr. K. Yes, I live in Thailand and the z-wave doesn't go well through concrete walls

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 10:14 AM

#

@orchid rose then I would just buy more wired repeaters 😂

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:15 AM

#

the Wive approval factor - She was realy mad that the lights arnt working while I change stuff

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 10:15 AM

#

@ebon mountain one power plug on each side of the wall 🤷

orchid rose May 16, 2019, 10:15 AM

#

stop changing stuff 😃

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:15 AM

#

NEVER!

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:15 AM

#

atxbyea: and when my kids unplugs one, the network goes down

#

looks like i' building again. damn.

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 10:16 AM

#

Hide a plug in the roof 😂

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:16 AM

#

mains here are 220v. I don't mess with the electricity.

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:16 AM

#

got another stupid idea..

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:16 AM

#

anyone have a comparison of hassio versus the HA on Ubuntu option

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:16 AM

#

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/how_tos/how_to_esp8266_with_cc2530.html

or does the zwave stick doesnt speak serial?

zigbee2mqtt.io

How to connect a CC2530 coordinator via an ESP8266

📘 Zigbee2mqtt documentation

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 10:17 AM

#

Mains are 220 in most of the world😂

orchid rose May 16, 2019, 10:17 AM

#

if you're familiar with Ubuntu it shouldn't be a problem to get stuff to work quite easily afaik

#

if you are new to linux, it might be more difficult

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:18 AM

#

Mr. K -- Yes, familiar and can google decently. Does it have the same settings as HASSIO?

orchid rose May 16, 2019, 10:18 AM

#

as far as I know you can do everything you can with hassio, just that you'll have to do it manually

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:19 AM

#

manually as in installing mosquito and such? I bet the z-wave is going to be a b#@$*@. Hassio was simple. Then again I bricked my box

orchid rose May 16, 2019, 10:19 AM

#

stuff like ssl etc. But I've never tried hassio (yet) so I'm not sure how much of the integrations one needs

#

mosquito etc. Z-Wave I have no experience with

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 10:20 AM

#

I'm glad I grew up with slackware 😛

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:20 AM

#

shouldnt be much diffrence

#

lol - didnt even know slackware oldest distro xD

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:22 AM

#

so just to confirm. If I have a HASSIO instal that has something wrong at boot and I don't have SSH or SMB access (101 mistake) but I do have console access, I'm hosed right?

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 10:22 AM

#

👴

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:25 AM

#

well - I still say with console access you can get it back to a working state

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:26 AM

#

ohh. that would be nice

#

i'm stick at hassio> though

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:28 AM

#

https://www.home-assistant.io/hassio/commandline/

Home Assistant

Hass.io via the Command line

Command line utility to control Hass.io.

#

🤷

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:30 AM

#

yep, but I cannot access the files I need

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:30 AM

#

tyed nano -w /config/xxyy

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:31 AM

#

nano doesn't exist

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:31 AM

#

vi /config/xxyy

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:33 AM

#

i'm basically outside of the HA environemtn. No nano/VI

#

just those commands that were in yur link above

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 10:34 AM

#

This is definitely a discussion for #330990055533576204 😉

ebon mountain May 16, 2019, 10:35 AM

#

ok. i'll try again. Thank you

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 10:40 AM

#

Oof my greenhouse

#

📎 Screenshot_20190516_124024.jpg

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 10:54 AM

#

Nice

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 11:44 AM

#

Are there some steps you take to make Plex safe?

#

quite confident with HA - But not shure with plex

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 12:05 PM

#

Plex save what?

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 12:15 PM

#

just to keep the server safe - still didnt forwarded the plex port

orchid rose May 16, 2019, 12:20 PM

#

safe

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 12:30 PM

#

Then you are only using it locally? I present mine externally so i can watch stuff on the go and share my library with my friends

#

@orchid rose I can easily see @hearty depot mother's tongue is German or similar, they have the v/f thing, just like Finnish people have the g/c thing 😬

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 12:34 PM

#

Bayrisch actually 🤣

#

https://www.event-dj-bayern.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/bayrisch-dj-boarisch-231x300.jpg

orchid rose May 16, 2019, 12:35 PM

#

what g/c thing? 🤔

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 12:36 PM

#

Often when I speak to Finnish people they mix up the g/c sound, like saying grazyand creen

orchid rose May 16, 2019, 12:37 PM

#

ah, okay

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 12:37 PM

#

I'm a language freak, so I study people I talk to a lot 🤷

orchid rose May 16, 2019, 12:38 PM

#

we've (Finns) streamlined our own language by getting rid of these useless g, c and just use k instead. Much easier!

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 12:38 PM

#

Hyvää perse 😘

#

What I say when the Finnish guys put wood in the sauna oven 😛

low harness May 16, 2019, 12:40 PM

#

Didn't you undo all that work by putting twice as many vowels as necessary into every word instead?

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 12:40 PM

#

Saatana

low harness May 16, 2019, 12:41 PM

#

See. That's "Satan" is Swedish. half as many.

orchid rose May 16, 2019, 12:41 PM

#

yet you weirdos pronounce like it has multiple

#

confusing

low harness May 16, 2019, 12:42 PM

#

Well... you got me there. Swedish isn't causal. Letters that come later change the pronounciation of the earlier ones.

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 12:42 PM

#

I prefer Japanese at the moment, pronounced just like it is written 🤷

orchid rose May 16, 2019, 12:43 PM

#

but they don't even have letters 🤔

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 12:43 PM

#

Tried learning Finnish for a period, but damn even Latin would be easier

#

@orchid rose sure they do, inside the syllables 😛

orchid rose May 16, 2019, 12:45 PM

#

according to this (and I always believe stuff in memes), hungarian is even harder: https://dailymagyar.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/kutya_meme_ps.png

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 12:47 PM

#

Hungarian is pretty similar to Finnish

#

They are related by the same language tree

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 12:47 PM

#

Der Bus
Why the hell is the bus masculin? Does the have a penis?

proven spruce May 16, 2019, 12:48 PM

#

it's long and hard

orchid rose May 16, 2019, 12:48 PM

#

😄

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 12:50 PM

#

In Norwegian Germans would have a fit, we change gender of words by dialect or just because

hearty depot May 16, 2019, 12:52 PM

#

just because is always the best reason!

pliant forge May 16, 2019, 1:57 PM

#

https://blog.google/products/google-nest/updates-works-with-nest/

Google

We hear you: updates to Works with Nest

Updates to the Works with Nest platform transition to the Works with Google Assistant platform

unreal orbit May 16, 2019, 2:01 PM

#

We recognize you may want your Nest devices to work with other connected ecosystems. We’re working with Amazon to migrate the Nest skill... apparently they don't recognize that well...

frosty wyvern May 16, 2019, 2:20 PM

#

@clear ferry Latin’s not that bad, actually

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 2:28 PM

#

@frosty wyvern I know, but Finnish is 😂

valid halo May 16, 2019, 2:43 PM

#

Works with Nest 2.0. Routes everything through the Alexa Cloud and then to the Google Cloud and then back the way it came to you.

#

MORE CLOUD. MORE GOOD.

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 2:57 PM

#

Cloud²

cloud laurel May 16, 2019, 2:58 PM

#

hello, has anyone here worked with floorplanner?

#

it looks nice, but idk how hard it is to implement

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 3:00 PM

#

I have it on my list but I haven't gotten around to it yet 😞

frosty wyvern May 16, 2019, 3:13 PM

#

@clear ferry alea iacta est.

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 3:15 PM

#

What are some options for smart plugs that have energy monitoring, I want to use them to monitor my washers and dryers

unreal orbit May 16, 2019, 3:16 PM

#

TPlink has one, and sonoff makes one

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 3:16 PM

#

The Sonoff are just wifi correct?

unreal orbit May 16, 2019, 3:16 PM

#

Both of those are wifi

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 3:19 PM

#

Do I need to flash custom firmware on the sonoff?

orchid rose May 16, 2019, 3:27 PM

#

https://github.com/peterbuga/HASS-sonoff-ewelink There's a custom component

#

not sure if it supports all the devices and monitoring

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 3:28 PM

#

@dark swallow NOK 131.91 60%OFF | Smart Life EU Plug WiFi Control smart Socket Power Metering Timing switch 16A 3680W Voice Control work with Alexa Google IFTTT
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/cH5qxVaY

NOK 131.91 60%OFF | Smart Life EU Plug WiFi Control smart Socket ...

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 3:38 PM

#

So I found I do need to flash Tasmota on the Sonoff S31 which I might do because they are cheaper than the TPLink ones but not sure about soldering the sonoff

#

Also should've mentioned I'm in the US

unreal orbit May 16, 2019, 3:38 PM

#

You don't have to solder to flash

orchid rose May 16, 2019, 3:42 PM

#

the custom component should support S31 as well if you don't want to flash?

unreal orbit May 16, 2019, 3:47 PM

#

Yeah but then you're reliant on a random chinese cloud platform

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 3:49 PM

#

@unreal orbit Really I must be looking at an old tutorial

unreal orbit May 16, 2019, 3:50 PM

#

You can solder, but you don't need to. You can just hold the wires in place while it flashes

#

You should only have to do it once

#

I have several sonoff devices that I've flashed, I've never soldered once

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 3:51 PM

#

Ah I see! That makes sense! how do you hold the wires in place? Just your hands?

unreal orbit May 16, 2019, 3:52 PM

#

Usually you can just let the weight of the device hold them in place if you can situate it right

#

I have held it with my hand before as well

#

If it fails you just try again, no harm no foul

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 3:54 PM

#

True, but having limited time and since its for my brother might just do the TPLink so if something goes wrong and he needs to reflash down the road or get a new one I won't need to flash it again

unreal orbit May 16, 2019, 3:55 PM

#

I love my TPLink devices. I've had no issues with them outside of just standard wifi shenanigans that is not the fault of the device

#

I don't have any energy monitoring plugs, but I have several of the standard plug and every light switch in my house is tplink

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 3:56 PM

#

they don't need to connect to servers to work right? all local?

unreal orbit May 16, 2019, 3:58 PM

#

Initial setup is through the kasa app, then it's all local

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 3:59 PM

#

Cool that's what I thought!

unreal orbit May 16, 2019, 4:00 PM

#

There might even be a way to set them up without the kasa app, but it's definitely the easiest way

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 4:00 PM

#

I have 2 Wemo Mini's but the price jump to the energy monitoring ones is just too big

#

Yeah either way I am fine with it connecting to an outside server with tp link but I don't want all commands to be cloud based usually too slow

unreal orbit May 16, 2019, 4:01 PM

#

Yeah all HA control is local (and in the kasa app there is local control as well when you're on the same network as the switches)

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 4:06 PM

#

That's what I figured, why do the ones with energy monitoring have to be so big and oddly shaped! How do companies not realize people plug more than one thing into an outlet!!!!

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 4:08 PM

#

@dark swallow are these too big?

#

NOK 126.49 31%OFF | Smart life US power monitoring WiFi outlet wireless plug smart home switch compatible with Google home , Alexa voice control
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/niA9ZMy

NOK 126.49 31%OFF | Smart life US power monitoring WiFi outlet wi...

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 4:11 PM

#

Those might work too and the tplink ones should too I'll just have to change what outlets things are plugged into size shouldn't be that big of an issue for this but it might be in the future

unreal orbit May 16, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

Plus you won't have to wait 6 weeks to get them 😉

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

lol true to that!

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

All the smart life products on AliExpress can be flashed with #551843800209686539 and #551843558676758569 I use a bunch of them, usually take two weeks to get here

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

But honestly the price difference isn't too different and not needing to be flashed in the future will be nice

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

Now if I only could flash my wife's VW Tiguan with #551843558676758569 🤔

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

lol I don't see why not 🙃

unreal orbit May 16, 2019, 4:16 PM

#

@clear ferry for presence detection?

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

@unreal orbit and milage, service indicator, and more 😂

unreal orbit May 16, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

You can get one of those OBD2 connectors for that

clear ferry May 16, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

Jealous of my colleagues Volvo v90 that integrates directly in home assistant,he can even see if his washer fluid is low from ha, and trigger the Webasto to start when he wakes up in the morning

#

OBD2 that integrates in ha directly? I've only seen with torque android app, that requires me to have a phone with the app open

unreal orbit May 16, 2019, 4:18 PM

#

Can't say I worry about my washer fluid that much to care about a sensor for it 🤣

dark swallow May 16, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

If you don't mind spending $100 you can get the automatic pro