I usually blame Ludeeus. He seems to be behind most issues
#the-water-cooler
unreal orbit
gloomy canyon
systemd-resolve --status gives me "DNS Servers: 1.0.0.1"
and some others
and dig domainname@1.0.0.1 works
maybe I install locally a copy of hass.io and see if the problem is network wide
light trout
You get any errors?
gloomy canyon
just connection timed out
gloomy canyon
yeah and ping/links/nc whatever works to the domain
light trout
Have you tried with other domains?
gloomy canyon
yeah all work
it's just "0x711.de"
and every other subdomain like chris.0x711.de
eternal pasture
Cheap but great Beacons suggestions?
light trout
That works for me @gloomy canyon
gloomy canyon
hm strange isn't it?
light trout
How do you run HA?
gloomy canyon
venv on an i3 nuc
light trout
Start a python console from that venv
gloomy canyon
yep
light trout
wait
light trout
you need to activate the venv
gloomy canyon
ah my bad
light trout
import logging
import socket
import ssl
from datetime import datetime, timedelta
ctx = ssl.create_default_context()
host_info = socket.getaddrinfo('0x711.de', 443)
family = host_info[0][0]
sock = ctx.wrap_socket(socket.socket(family=family), server_hostname='0x711.de')
sock.settimeout(10.0)
sock.connect(('0x711.de', 443))
sock.getpeercert()
Paste these lines one at the time to figure out which one that fails.
gloomy canyon
the connect
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
File "/usr/lib/python3.6/ssl.py", line 1109, in connect
self._real_connect(addr, False)
File "/usr/lib/python3.6/ssl.py", line 1096, in _real_connect
socket.connect(self, addr)
socket.timeout: timed out
print(host_info)
gloomy canyon
>> print(host_info) [(<AddressFamily.AF_INET6: 10>, <SocketKind.SOCK_STREAM: 1>, 6, '', ('2a02:c207:3002:8853::1', 443, 0, 0)), (<AddressFamily.AF_INET6: 10>, <SocketKind.SOCK_DGRAM: 2>, 17, '', ('2a02:c207:3002:8853::1', 443, 0, 0)), (<AddressFamily.AF_INET6: 10>, <SocketKind.SOCK_RAW: 3>, 0, '', ('2a02:c207:3002:8853::1', 443, 0, 0)), (<AddressFamily.AF_INET: 2>, <SocketKind.SOCK_STREAM: 1>, 6, '', ('173.249.49.150', 443)), (<AddressFamily.AF_INET: 2>, <SocketKind.SOCK_DGRAM: 2>, 17, '', ('173.249.49.150', 443)), (<AddressFamily.AF_INET: 2>, <SocketKind.SOCK_RAW: 3>, 0, '', ('173.249.49.150', 443))]
light trout
print(host_info[0])
gloomy canyon
(<AddressFamily.AF_INET6: 10>, <SocketKind.SOCK_STREAM: 1>, 6, '', ('2a02:c207:3002:8853::1', 443, 0, 0))
light trout
print(host_info[3])
gloomy canyon
(<AddressFamily.AF_INET: 2>, <SocketKind.SOCK_STREAM: 1>, 6, '', ('173.249.49.150', 443))
light trout
family = host_info[3][0]
sock = ctx.wrap_socket(socket.socket(family=family), server_hostname='0x711.de')
sock.settimeout(10.0)
sock.connect(('0x711.de', 443))
sock.getpeercert()
looks good
light trout
hmm....
gloomy canyon
'subject': ((('commonName', '0x711.de'),),), 'issuer': ((('countryName', 'US'),), (('organizationName', "Let's Encrypt"),), .............
light trout
So your IPv6 is giving you issues :/
gloomy canyon
ok weird
light trout
Not sure how to fix that, but at least you have something to go from 😛
Easiest would probably be to change this line and run it as a custom_component :P
https://github.com/home-assistant/home-assistant/blob/dev/homeassistant/components/sensor/cert_expiry.py#L89
gloomy canyon
thanks for your help, wireshark and everything else didn't help me
maybe that changed 2-3 versions ago, the sensor was working...
light trout
It changed in this PR https://github.com/home-assistant/home-assistant/pull/18916/files
gloomy canyon
mh next question is what is wrong with my ipv6 config?
light trout
That I do not know, I have been lucky enough to not deal with v6 yet. 😁
gloomy canyon
net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1 would fix the problem but isn't really satisfying
pure vine
strange vapor
clear ferry
Even though Brave is a Marillion album without Fish it is still a great piece
white radish
How do i trick my roborock s5 to go over this carpet?
clever mortar
Build a ramp for it, and use encouraging words 😛
white radish
The black lines i mean it gets on it no problem
lol it climbs everything
Possible to turn off cliff sensors and rely on barriers?
unreal orbit
The rug trips the cliff sensor?
white radish
the thick black line. it gets onto the rug and then gets stuck in the boxes. only ran a couple tests but it was having trouble
midnight adder
Just got a Smart Life RGB smart plug
white radish
i turned on the carpet mode and it says "vacuum may not detect minor objects" and hopefully that helps
midnight adder
works pretty well, its app is a direct ripoff of xiaomi's
unreal orbit
I think you can just tape over the sensors on the bottom if it doesn't work
white radish
it allows that?
unreal orbit
(taping white paper over it looks like)
white radish
ah gotcha
midnight adder
doesn't seem to measure power correctly though, I got a lamp plugged in right now but all it gives me is the voltage
white radish
its done the rest of the floor great!
midnight adder
kinda wonder if it actually is correct seeing how much it fluctuates
white radish
im working on getting my token right now to get it into HA
midnight adder
does anyone else here own smartlife stuff?
clear ferry
@midnight adder is it a led bulb? Might be too low of a current for it to trigger, try something bigger?
midnight adder
right now I have two lamps plugged in, one's a led, one's a standard safer bulb
or whatever you call them in english
should be about 10W, might be too low yeah
Voltage fluctuates between 231.5 and 233.5
lemme plug in the xbox, see what happens
oh that explains it
i turned the lamps off
durrr
Yeah that seems about right, 60mA at 9W
sweet!
I love the loud relay inside the plug, goes with a nice dunk
midnight adder
the big easy hass kit is hassio, right
before I install the wrong package on my rpi
clever mortar
Depends...
Hass.io and Hassbian are both really easy to install
Hassbian is Raspbian + Home Assistant
Hass.io is Docker based
pick the approach that works for you
midnight adder
uh
the one that goes on the rpi
I don't really run docker anywhere in my network
clever mortar
Both go on the Pi 😉
If you install Hassbian, then you get Raspbian, with Home Assistant, and some other scripts
If you install Hass.io, then you get HassOS, with Docker, to provide Home Assistant (and add-ons)
The end result in both cases is that you have Home Assistant running on a Pi
midnight adder
Right, that's the default getting started way, right
clever mortar
Either are, yes
midnight adder
I tried hass quite some time ago and accidentally installed a version that was more limited than some other version but I don't remember what I did
midnight adder
it made adding stuff a lot harder
clever mortar
Hass.io, being Docker based, doesn't allow you to go fiddle underneath, or tweak the system, without building your own containers
Hassbian requires you to know Linux
(if you want to go fiddle underneath)
midnight adder
all I'm interested in is adding my devices, really
clever mortar
Then, either works 🤷
vast dove
oh lord your emojinick is hurting my eyes @midnight adder
clever mortar
And yet, you don't complain about the smurf with the eye pop...
midnight adder
@vast dove
vast dove
what smurf?
vast dove
wtf is that?
midnight adder
someone's rendition of thomas the tank engine in face paint
while not realising that thomas has a gray face
there is no god
vast dove
@junior forge probably likes that image
junior forge
lol
vast dove
😂
junior forge
Choo Choo Homie! 🚂
midnight adder
throughout the years i have adopted the original image as my own online personality and cult
dab on em
junior forge
@midnight adder Thomas became kinda a cult on my stream
vast dove
@clever mortar now i understand what you mean about the smurf, but i dont show avatars in discord so didnt notice before i clicked his nick 😛
midnight adder
even got people making fanart
even kanye is part of my squad
so anyways lets see what IP hass assigned to itself
also, I should order more network cable
I mean I probably have some left in the basement but whatever
well thats pretty fucking impressive, it catched a ton of my devices right on first boot
even the xiaomi zigbee stuff
errant ember
Has anyone purchased a wifi dimmer switch? I'm comparing options. Lutron and leviton come up as well as monoprice and tp-link
midnight adder
nice, got my yeelight and xiaomi gateway light working
errant ember
@midnight adder are you just starting with Home Assistant recently?
midnight adder
Yeah
vast dove
This is discord 😉
errant ember
*discord
midnight adder
*icq
errant ember
*irc
midnight adder
Xiaomi gateway with two wireless aqara switches, an aqara cube, an aqara temp/humidity/pressure sensor, a single yeelight (i lost my other one during the move 2 months ago) and a smartlife RGB smart plug with power measuring
errant ember
I have never heard of any of those devices lol
errant ember
holy crap aqara has like everything
midnight adder
yeah and xiaomi being xiaomi they bought the whole company and rebranded it with their stylish looks
it's good stuff
I have two of these that I'm trying to get working with hass:
my apartment legit only has three light switches: kitchen, hallway and living room
errant ember
what do you want the button to do?
midnight adder
turn on all the lights in the living room
errant ember
what sorta lights are they?
midnight adder
I have one by the door and next to the couch
single yeelight until I find the second one I own
I also plugged a regular standing lamp into the smart plug
errant ember
never heard of yeelight before
midnight adder
it's another brand xiaomi bought
they're stylish and the software works great too
errant ember
i need to add VPN support so i can play with my HA from work lol
clear ferry
@vast dove i choo choo choose you 🚅 🚅
midnight adder
built quality is superb on these things
errant ember
One thing I love about HA is it really makes all these apps unnecessary, so if software is wonky i can just use virtual bridges or HA's own dashboard
midnight adder
I'm considering getting some ikea tradfri lamps though, mostly because yeelights are a bitch to purchase being chinese and all
yeah the only way I could use the yeelight with the switches was if I adopted the lights in the xiaomi app
but that disables lan control
just adopted it back to the yeelight app and set it up in hass
now I just gotta get the aqara switches working
oh boy humble bundle has a new linux ebook bundle
errant ember
I wish someone made a spreadsheet or chart of all the different smart home devices, technologies and manufacturers
midnight adder
@errant ember but excel only has a 1,048,576 row limit
white radish
I wonder if someone smarter than me once the vacuum is rooted could disable the cliff sensors or create something to force it through an area. It would be nice to be able to drive the robot though the area so that it could learn that it is safe. Like a no go box, but a go go box
@unreal orbit
unreal orbit
I'm too much of a chicken to root my vacuum, so I won't be able to help unfortunately. I would try taping white paper over the sensors
white radish
That’s my first plan of action. Wanting to head home soon 😬
errant ember
Should I go with Lutron for my light dimmer switches or should I go with z-wave? I currently have some philips hue, and will be doing smart blinds later. I also want to replace one of the wall switches for the ceiling fan too
hushed basalt
@white radish if you don't have stairs you could just cover the cliff sensors
Will turn it into a lemming though
What is physically stopping it going into the room you want it to
white radish
@hushed basalt i do have stairs but my plan is to draw barrier lines for it. i raised my couches also but that damn middle still sags to much
hushed basalt
@white radish which robot do you have
white radish
roborock s5, was planning on covering the sensors tonight but got busy so will have to be tomorrow
normal thistle
Has anyone taken a look at this doorbell sensor? It's wifi and says it works with Home Assistant. Was thinking about getting one but wanted to see what everyone thinks. https://www.fireflyelectronix.com/product/wifidoorbell
white radish
@normal thistle im interested! haha
hushed basalt
@normal thistle to be honest if you wanted to play with nodeMCUs or zigbees you could DIY something for $5
And it just push to MQTT which is fully integrated into HA
But if you just want to get it done it could be an option
According to the documentation it should work fine though
But watch out I believe this needs an AC powered doorbell to work
So if you have an oldschool doorbell with a say 24v AC bell on the switch, it detects when someone completes the circuit
Personally if it was me I would remove my existing chime doorbell, wire up the existing door bell button to a GPIO on an ESP32/ESP8266, and then have that talk directly to home assistant
And then have home assistant send notifications, flash lights and or play chimes on smart speakers like alexa or google home etc
clear ferry
Or just a Xiaomi button 🤷
proven spruce
xiaomi button is the answer to most questions 😄
clear ferry
Xiaomi button is the answer to most questions you mean @proven spruce
proven spruce
or in my doorbell case a xiaomi window sensor hacked to the existing doorbell switch
if its cheap and it works it should be the answer most of the time
clear ferry
I even ordered a Xiaomi nose hair trimmer now 👃
proven spruce
funny you should say that, i was just looking at one in my cart 😄
clear ferry
Better block it in the firewall so the pesky Chinese don't figure out how often I trim my nose 🤷
proven spruce
god forbid they measure my nose hair length
clear ferry
I'm off the charts anyway
clear ferry
lolol 1h51 minutes to work
usually it is 45 minutes
glad I'm working from home today
potent zenith
Hello everyone. I've got a question is there any appropriate channel where I can ask about wemos d1 mini sensors?
proven spruce
potent zenith
ok wasn't sure since the full question would sort of fit under both diy and tasmota ^^
clear ferry
feck, listening to band of brothers soundtrack on spotify made me want to rewatch the series
hushed basalt
@clear ferry yes an xiaomi button would be simpler but only if he has a gateway
Has anyone played with hashicorp vault
normal thistle
Thanks for the input everyone. I have an old wired doorbell. I like how my wired doorbell button is sleek not sure if I’d want to put a xiaomi button on the outside of my house.
gusty umbra
Anyone know whether using an USB hub for ConBee and Aeotec sticks work fine on a Synology NAS? 😃 gotta clean this up a bit
strange vapor
@hushed basalt Use Hashicorp Vault extensively, but only on AWS with DDB and HSM etc., haven't deployed locally.
clear ferry
@gusty umbra fap fap that is some nice stuff
I am so used to being at customer sites with 5-800 port switches where 9 different people cabled it that stuff like that warms my heart
@normal thistle just open up the Xiaomi button and wire the original doorbell to it 😉
gusty umbra
@clear ferry 😄 I just cut down my rack, as I had too high ambitions. This is what I was originally doing:
I realized I don’t have the time, patience or knowledge to run a server like that, so upgraded my Synology instead and trimmed the rack. Feels good to actually go smaller.
strange vapor
In the process of putting a small 7U rack in the attic for switch, two small 1U servers, APC PDU and 24 port patch panel. At the moment it's in my sitting room.
clear ferry
@strange vapor it often ends up sitting there when you don't fix it immediately 😜
strange vapor
Electrician coming next week to sort some cabling for me and get power where I need it.
Old house, but handily, the previous owners put Cat3 to telephone jacks in every room. All being replaced with nice Cat 6 with two patch points in each location.
Wireless is great, but it's a shared medium, so getting high bandwidth fun like media streaming from NAS onto wired network will be nice.
cinder violet
I'd like my AV receiver to turn on automatically when I turn on the tv.. right now I need two remotes. Would this be something I could do with the broadlink RM mini 3?
clear ferry
@cinder violet just enable CEC?
cinder violet
doesn't that only work if it's connected through hdmi
currently connecting my receiver to my tv through a toslink because my tv only has two hdmi connections which are both used by something else
thorny trench
How many of you are running separate vlans for your smart devices?
pure vine
Im currently researching the UK laws on lock pick ownership
and its annoyingly one of those "It depends on the situation" laws
(1)A person shall be guilty of an offence if, when not at his place of abode, he has with him any article for use in the course of or in connection with any [F1burglary or theft]F1 .
(2)A person guilty of an offence under this section shall on conviction on indictment be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three years.
(3)Where a person is charged with an offence under this section, proof that he had with him any article made or adapted for use in committing a [F2burglary or theft]F2 shall be evidence that he had it with him for such use.
(4)F3. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
(5)For purposes of this section an offence under section 12(1) of this Act of taking a conveyance shall be treated as theft F4.```
the same law can be applied to a lot of things@thorny trench Not fully there yet, but as soon as rack move mentioned above is sorted, I will be. Including separate ESSID/VLAN on Unifi
gusty umbra
holy damn @clear ferry 😄
orchid rose
I'm usually not that interested in Champions League football, but this season is turning out to be pretty great. Every game seems to bring out something interesting and unexpected
(just testing if anyone cares)
fair monolith
I hate it when discord is backlogged and you do not see it so you reply to a message from 6 hrs ago
hushed basalt
Power is $0.27/KWH and rising here
I have to be conscious of what I run as a server(s)
Plus the fact that the used rackmount market in Australia is non existant. I think desktop hardware new or second hand from gamer buy and sells is my onlu viable option :(
:cries:
Correction. $0.2832/KWH
If I change to a peak/off peak plan it's 53.87 cents /KWH. Yeesh.
For the peak.
clear ferry
@hushed basalt it's AUD0.16 here atm, which is pretty high, we are used to 0.08
I've used to have 30-32000kwh usage per year, since the baby arrived I see it's going up up up, guessing 2019 will be atleast 40000kwh
hushed basalt
Feed in tariff for solar os 7.2c kwh :(
Yeah our power bill has doubled with the baby home
Air con and tv haha
Thats 7.2c kwh NET as well
So if you import 10KWH, and export 10KWH in a day, you pay 10 x 28 cents and get back 10 x 7 cents.
I would have to do the math on a telsa powerwall and a on/off peak plan when i get my own house.
Basically I'd have to be able to have enough solar to charge the batteries and run appliances and AC when the sun is shining, do cooking and TV in the evening off the batteries and use the off peak to cover base loads like servers and refrigerators
On peak times is like 3-9pm, so there's still a huge period of time when there's little to no solar generation in that period, :/
tough igloo
My in-laws just got solar installed and with the low feed in tariffs they still were owed money after their first full quarter so it’s worked out to be a good investment so far for them. (In Aus)
hushed basalt
Hmm
It's so complicated
I wish you could just sell P2P power. Something something blockchain
Anyone looked at Sony WH-1000XM3 noise cancelling headphones?
Sony sure love their long model names.
clear ferry
Wonder how well solar works in my hometown 🤔 we have the midnight sun, so sun 24h for two months 🤔
@hushed basalt I love Sony MDR series and have four different models of those, best headphones I ever owned sound wise at least
hushed basalt
I was tossing up them vs the bose QC II
But that USB C port is enough to win me over on the Sonys
Would make my phone, laptop and headphones all the same connector which is worth it's weight in gold for travel
Plus I've kind of sworn to not buy any non USB C devices that I use for travel
strange vapor
Wearing Sony MDR while commuting right now and love them. Looked at upgrading to the new ones with USB C, but there's a lack of physical controls which puts me off.
orchid rose
the lack of physical buttons gave me some pause as well, otherwise those look pretty great. As they should for that price...
it's rather interesting that people are willing to pay that much for headphones nowadays. It used to be that people thought it was weird that I spent 150€ on my Beyerdynamics...
strange vapor
I have seen/heard people on trains using Alexa to control their Headphones. Luckily there's often trolls around who try to screw with it.
😇
clear ferry
I have the MDR-XB950, 700, 70AP and thinking about buying the 1000
clear ferry
@orchid rose I still remember when all the shitkids were walking around with the Koss portapro 🤢
orchid rose
on the other hand, hifi audio in peoples houses is pretty much dead now
clear ferry
@orchid rose I knew a guy who cut his speaker wires on the "perfect" cm length 😆 for best audio
orchid rose
tbf, there's at least some science behind that unlike most of the high-end mumbo jumbo
clever mortar
What, like the audio grade network cables that are directional
Or the filters for improved digital and analogue audio
strange vapor
The likes of Sonos seem to be replacing the traditional Wifi. I'm still using a nice little JVC hifi in the corner with MPD running on a Pi. Only requirement I had when buying it was that it had an Aux in and decent sounding speakers. That one won out as it has good old Vacumn tubes which are visible from the front when turned on 😄
orchid rose
Sonos, soundbars and other crap like that. They sound okay, and there's nothing wrong with that, but the claims are sometimes outrageous...
clever mortar
I ditched the hifi for Sonos, and haven't looked back. The hifi wasn't high end enough that Sonos was a step back, and the convenience factor is massive
orchid rose
that's fine and it's probably the case for most people. I'm just surprised how little people are interested in high quality audio
then again, people also watch movies on their phones...
clear ferry
I love the Denon link cable https://goo.gl/images/EoASZW
clever mortar
I've a colleague who's massively into high quality audio
They spend not small amounts of money on it, and get a lot of pleasure from it
Me, I just want to listen to "good enough", not host a concert 😛
clear ferry
I host concerts too, but for that I have the other speakers and amps in my garage 😂
Vox ac50 from 1967 plays louder than hell
strange vapor
I've been in professional recording studios, and a lot of time, you're more likely to see bog standard cables from Thomann, not audiophile monstrosities.
clear ferry
Yeah, we musicians prefer the old cable we have been lugging around for 20 years, even thou y you have to strap it at a 32 degree angle to make it work
orchid rose
they do however use acoustic paneling etc in studios which is rather difficult to achieve in a normal living rooms
I think I measured around +-30dB frequency response for my speakers last time I tried...
clear ferry
@orchid rose considering it in my garage 🤔
orchid rose
definitely get some proper panels if you don't mind how it looks. It makes it sound a thousand times better
rolls of rockwool will do the trick. May not look very nice though...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp56A6TcL1E <-here's a pretty good demo
hexed kestrel
pretty sweet demo. might try something like that in my closet studio whenever it gets built
hushed basalt
Audiophiles are nutters
I read a blog post about a guy who spent like 3 weeks hand assembling his own cables
clear ferry
I've played music for almost 30 years, but I'm tone-deaf and tempo-blind 😂
hushed basalt
As in braiding silver strands, polishing every strand with the grain to align the atoms
I think they're called flat earthers now :D
clear ferry
Or antivaxxers 🤕
hushed basalt
Why not both
You have to make sure your audio cables are off the floor
How about some powerpole insulators high end ground feedback isolators
$150 each bargain
clever mortar
See, you're doing it wrong. You need to build a high power laser transmission system, and vacuum guides for the signal path. Oh, and only operate them in total darkness
And of course you'll need £20K transceivers to convert from analogue to laser, and back again
hushed basalt
I mean if you've already paid $300/metre for my bell wire oxygen aligned signal carrier tubes
Why ruin it by putting them on the ground
clear ferry
I had a friend who bought some mono blocks for 8000 euro each, as if that wasn't bad enough he sent them in for an upgrade worth 3000 euro each 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
hushed basalt
clear ferry
Some are just bonkers
orchid rose
you most likely actually gain some measurable differences with higher price lenses
clever mortar
Optics, yes, I can believe. Claiming special network cables improve the audio quality ...
I did photography as a hobby for years, and the difference between cheap, half decent, and good glass was quite apparent
fair monolith
heh nothing matters when you send the signal digital and use a DAC at the end
could use coat hanger wire and not care
fair monolith
@orchid rose haha, it only matters after super long distances
but then you might as well put the DAC at the end of the run and send via digital
orchid rose
there's enough pseudo-science out there to make some people believe that it matters with digital transfer as well
fair monolith
Hahahaha
low harness
My company makes high voltage power cables. Like 4000 square mm copper conductors. We sell them to state-owned power companies and oil-giants and such, but sometimes I think we could get more money if we aimed at audiophiles...
at least per meter of cable
orchid rose
just need to finish them with some snake oil
maybe "burn them in" in one of those power plants and claim that makes them superior
strange vapor
I was looking for some network cables last night, just need some short patch cables but didn't have any crimps to make them myself. Wander around a few shops close by to see what I could find.... 2M Cat 6: €17 in one place, while in Woodies a 15M Cat 6 was €9.99 with nothing in between 😦 Seems getting network cables in normal stores is getting more and more awkward.
hexed kestrel
But they all have fidget spinners....
strange vapor
Of course!
shy comet
looks like someone finally got RTSP and the mobile app to work on Yi cameras: https://github.com/TheCrypt0/yi-hack-v4
shy comet
@flat lintel its for the Xiaomi Yi cameras and the official app that comes with those cameras.....previously we had to use a hack that did not have RTSP and used FTP to grab images and recent recordings.....there was a way to RTSP but then the app would not work so now they came up with a new hack to get both features
flat lintel
ah got it
nice
are the cameras good?
im thinking about buying some new ones because now that I got my Amcrest working again I see how shite my cheap chinese camera quality is
amcrest ^
crap chinese camera ^
shy comet
they are ok I was waiting for RTSP support to make them a real camera
I also have Amcrest here and I actually prefer them honestly
they are cheap, easy to setup and integrate and the app is decent
flat lintel
prefer the Yi?
shy comet
no I prefer Amcrest
flat lintel
oh
shy comet
I bought the Yi when it was on sale but the features never matched the Amcrest
flat lintel
even with the hacked firmware?
shy comet
I never used the hacked firmware since I coudlnt use the app (ease of use for wife)
It became too much of a hassale compared to Amcrest just working out of the box
flat lintel
ok thx
shy comet
I also have Reolink's for outdoor cameras, they work well and are really cheap....5mp usually goes on sale on amazon around 50-55 and they are PoE
tall escarp
You should all get Axis cameras 😎
midnight adder
Anyone here got Xiaomi Aqara wireless switches working with hass?
actually i should probably ask that in support
fallow fox
From where do you source your components for DIY projects? ESPs, rotary encoders, displays, resistors... You know... 😃
proven spruce
aliexpress 😄
clear ferry
Bought a late 2018 model Chromebook today for €200, can't say I regret it so far
Native linux support also
strange vapor
Only issue with AliExpress is that delivery time can be, em, variable! Other than that, +1 for AliExpress.
unreal orbit
That's why you order a boatload of stuff, and then a few months later for months to come it will be like Christmas everyday
strange vapor
Yup, and ofter something will come in and you wonder WTF you were thinking of using it for when you ordered 😄
clear ferry
@unreal orbit I love it
shy comet
i once ordered some motion sensors from gearbest....3 months later nothing so got a full refund....8months later they showed up
11 months from date of order
unreal orbit
More often than not I'll order multiple types of the same thing to test their viability, and the first one that arrives works just fine. Then they trickle in and I think to myself 'why the hell did I do this'
every time
shy comet
LOL
wintry crow
I used aliexpress and gearbest but these days I prefer banggood - tiny bit more expensive but usually get it in a week or so
pure vine
@wintry crow good, gear best have been know to steal youtube conent for ads
quartz ether
Can you give me your USG Pro @gusty umbra
gusty umbra
Happily @quartz ether ... Would love to get rid of this UniFi bullshit and get something proper.
By far the worst eco system in technology I have put money into
quartz ether
😮 I love it. So simple and if you want the complexity there is always console commands.
gusty umbra
I had so many problems, due to their quality. It’s obvious, the products are cheap, so the quality will not be great at all. But it’s just far worse than I expected. And the customer support is so insanely bad.
I kid you not, I’d probably trade my Unifi setup for the Apple AirPort Extreme I had some years ago(not really, but kind of ;)). That thing never failed me, and was rock solid. After that I had some great Netgear stuff, and now a regretful UniFi owner 🤯
quartz ether
When I first started using it at work their claims of a mesh wifi were a bit exaggerated but other than that I have yet to have any issues.
gusty umbra
I first got an edge switch, when I got it, it was so warped, you wouldn’t believe it. So i obviously had that returned. Then I got this UniFi switch which keeps crapping out on PoE. An issue that has existed for years, but Ubiquiti does not care. Then the USG-4-PRO, what were they thinking with that noise level? It’s not even the level, but it has the most annoying sound imaginable. So I had to break my warranty and got Noctuas in there to not go insane.
And my experience with their customer support, is that it is basically a bit like trying the chat on Banggood or AliExpress.
But hey, the products look good! 😃
End of rant. Sorry, I just really regret buying into Ubiquiti. Had to vent 😉
strange vapor
@gusty umbra Have Unifi here with their little 8 port switch, which is silent. Has been so reliable I ended up getting the same system for my parent's place! In both cases old house where multiple access points are needed. No mesh though, all wired.
pliant forge
I’m happy with my Ubiquiti stuff, very reliable so far.
gusty umbra
Yeah I’m sure I’ve just been unlucky. I’m sure mostly the stuff works. But the customer service they provide alone is enough for me to never buy any of their stuff again.
strange vapor
I had one bust PSU. Dealt with Senetic rather than Ubiquiti and absolutely no issues getting a replacement within 24 hour
And that was from Poland to Ireland.
viscid solar
DO NOT CLICK UPDATE UNDER HOST SYSTEM CARD IF ON A DEV HASSOS BUILD
pass that info along
quartz ether
The USG Pro has so many reports of being LOUD. Also you have the higher end looking switches and with the costs its acceptable to be not be happy if its not up to scratch
pure vine
So my house is 2 consumer routers running openwrt, one acting as a AP and the other a router and then an eclectic mix of switches, some nextgear prosafes, one of those managed and random gigabit ones we've acquired over time
shy comet
anyone here using xiaomi curtains? curious as to how loud they are when opening and closing
brisk glen
Ill just pop it open, replace the crapy fans with some nice ones and upgrade the ram to 4 GB
err @gusty umbra
how much for that pro?
quartz ether
brisk glen
@quartz ether I know, Im trying to get it for a lot less
tho Unifi is going to be putting out a new line at some point soon with ARM chips
shy comet
they had a new device on their early access store yesterday with a new processor....1.7 quad core
silent storm
Hey guys
I am looking for some shopping advice. I recently got hassbian up and running on my Pi 3B+ (on rasspbian) and i am looking to buy some RGB WW wifi lightbulbs to hook up to the system and get into automating my lights and stuff to see how everything works.
I am having some issues in deciding where and what to buy so maybe someone here can point me in the right direction.
I am from the netherlands and would prefer some local reseller that wont take 4 weeks to deliver my stuff (ali).
I was looking at these bulbs but i am unsure if this would just work out of the box or do i need to flash the firmware of these bulbs?
https://www.wifilampkoning.nl/milight-wifi-lampen/milight-wifi-led-lamp-rgbw-9-watt-e27-fitting/
I would prefer something that just works out of the box but i cant find any mqtt advertised bulbs for the life of me (im assuming thats what i need)
thanks in advance for any advice and please excuse me if this is the wrong room
orchid rose
the one that you linked is a chinese MiLight standard. There's a custom hub for those for esp8266 that supports mqtt
the standard hub works with Hass as well out of the box, but is limited to four groups of each type of lights and costs a bit more than the custom option
"Milight Wifi module met adapter en verlichting" is the hub you'll need unless you want to do the esp8266 one yourself which is probably a lot less than 10€ to build
dull chasm
sad world we live in https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/15/world/asia/new-zealand-shooting-updates-christchurch.html
eager trench
The MiLight hub works pretty well OOTB.... I have been thinking about trying the DIY just as a learning exercise though @orchid rose @silent storm
orchid rose
it's worked very well for me, with the only issue being you lose the "transition" function in light:
eager trench
I already had the hub before I saw the project and don’t have more than 4 zones anyway. They are good lights though and so much cheaper than the name brand alternatives
orchid rose
I had the hub before as well, but I thought I'll probably get more of these led strips and such so I'll need more groups eventually. Gave the hub to my brother instead
orchid rose
just so you know, I did run in to a problem with mine, the wifi was interfering with the antenna as they are so close. Some foil fixed it...
eager trench
Hahahaha..... so it’s not like a sonoff or the hub with no visible antenna then...
Gee that looks like a mess lol!!!!
orchid rose
you can have it without an antenna, that probably gives it 10 times more range than I need
and yeah it's not the final form, just a proof of concept when I couldn't figure out what the issue was
eager trench
I have had to move my hub around a couple of times as it tends to be a bit iffy with range sometimes
Sure
I have failsafe automations for Mi-Light..... performs the action an extra 2 times after a short delay.... never had a light fail to respond 3 times in a row... but I have say 2 or 3 lights in a group and sometimes one would not come on...... so the failsafe automation fixed that
orchid rose
I had some issues with the hub sometimes dropping off the wifi and not reconnecting, which was one of the reasons I went with the DIY as well
otherwise it always worked fine in my small apartment
eager trench
Well I haven’t had that happen
I’m in a reasonable size house
The hub is central to where the zones are and near enough to the AP so no wifi issues
silent storm
@orchid rose thanks so much for this info that was exactly what i was looking for i was a bit fuzzy about creating the hub myself and wich bulbs would be compatible but the link you provided seems to explain all of that. it does however go into quite some detail wich i feel i am not prepared for at this time so i will consider doing what you did and getting a set of bulbs with a hub and get a feel for the system then upgrade when needed or when im a bit more comfortable with the whole system.
clear ferry
Haha I love these https://v.redd.it/bn44naknyhh21
mighty summit
which one is our url-shortener of preference ?
unreal orbit
Like an official one for this discord? I don't think there is one
I like bitly though
mighty summit
failing an official one...bitly it is then !
midnight adder
anyone here own a tuyo/smartlife/lonsonho plug?
this little guy right here https://vgy.me/chlXTQ.png
trail crag
@midnight adder looks like this one https://blakadder.github.io/templates/rgbpow.html
trail crag
you get it working?
yeah the templates are cool
you copy that and throw it in and it all gets configured in tasmota
midnight adder
i have the tuya account stuff in my config already which didn't seem to do anything yet, i'll try this out
trail crag
did you tuya-convert it?
midnight adder
i have no clue what that is
midnight adder
so basically i set up a machine acting as AP, attach the plug to it, then run the scripts?
trail crag
exactly
it will scan and find it. Not sure how that works out with multiple tuya devices powered on
midnight adder
i can probably do that with a vm, gonna find me a usb wifi thingy first tho
trail crag
I've recently bought a few of my first tuya devices...bulbs. I haven't created a tuya account at all so far
midnight adder
the plug is pretty great
trail crag
looks nice
midnight adder
good build quality and it's not so fucking big as all these other smart plugs
just look at ikea's
trail crag
wow. yeah, that's got a nice...chin
midnight adder
they generally all have that
trail crag
I guess it's a matter of sticking out further or being wider/longer
midnight adder
the tuya one sticks out about 4cm which is probably not a whole lot more or less than the other brands
trail crag
midnight adder
thanks, i'm still searching for a wifi dongle
although, i wonder if it works on an orange pi
got one of those laying around
proven spruce
i use tuya convert on an orange pi pc with armbian, works with no problems
midnight adder
eh, my orange pi might be dead, it won't boot
oh well
never had a great experience with it anyways
good excuse to get a raspberry pi zero 🤡
brisk glen
@midnight adder or a pi3b+
midnight adder
yeah but i don't have a zero yet
brisk glen
I am soo sad that https://5c3ffea00ecbaf000853e762--home-assistant-docs.netlify.com/components/logi_circle/ is not going to make it in 0.90
midnight adder
apparently the zero is hard to get in NL
oh well, a 3b isn't bad either
oh dude just remembered where i put my wifi adapters
trail crag
that took long enough for me to be curious about where they were.
midnight adder
you guys don't have tradfri?
hushed basalt
Nope
midnight adder
oof
midnight adder
proven spruce
not even bulbs
proven spruce
doesnt matter when you cant buy em
midnight adder
i've had some of their dumb led bulbs for years
good temp and stuff
it uh
does light
hushed basalt
I guess I'm pretty sensitive to colour quality from a film and tv background
midnight adder
blinds you when you stare at it, the whole package
i haven't used their strips yet
hushed basalt
Their strips are hot hot garbage
hushed basalt
Even on the same strips the LEDs are different colour
midnight adder
i was planning on sticking them on the back of the kallax so the light bounces back against the wall when i turn them on
avoids the whole bright spot effect and should give a somewhat even glow
hushed basalt
What's a kallax?
Ah I see
I would look for RGBW lights if I was you
RGB would be too strong, like a rave
Pastels are your friend
hushed basalt
I bought the Sony XMP-1000 M3 headphones
Or whatever their impossible to remember model number is
WH-1000X m3?
clear ferry
any good ?
hushed basalt
I don't have anything to compare them against
But they feel great
Pretty light too. Yep large cups and great NC tech
Usb C charges really quick too. I went from like 60% to 80% charge in less than ten minutes
And battery life is supposed to be over 28 hours in real world according to reviews
clear ferry
I'm in the market to buy a synth/workstation, I love the sound of the kurzweil K2600 and the Kronos,but those are out of reach price wise,but I found a Korg M1 and a Korg T3 for sale nearby, those are 30 years old though, but legendary 🤷
strange vapor
@clear ferry The M1 never dies. Unfortunately it's battery does, but that's easy enough to replace!
clear ferry
@strange vapor but is it easy to operate and does it feel good? 🤔
strange vapor
The OS is the creme of 80s UI tech, lots and lots of menus on a small screen, really need an editor to make the most of it. Keyboard is decent enough for an unweighted.
clear ferry
Hmm, can have it for 248€, or a T3 for 255€ 🤔
strange vapor
@clear ferry Mine is currently down at the parent's place mostly unloved. Get's used occasionally. Got a Korg Nanopad for other duties, which came with the M1LE plugin which provides what I need here.
Have never used the T3, but going on pure specs, I'd go with the T3 for the extra polyphony for an extra seven quid!
clear ferry
Yeah, they call it the M1 on steroids
strange vapor
The M1 down home got sidelined by a Korg N364. The M1 survived life on the road, the N364 didn't!
clear ferry
I love the Kronos, but that will still set me back atleast 2100€
And I have never seen a Triton for sale in Norway at all
strange vapor
Really? Just had a quick look and there's a Triton for sale on one of the main Irish ad sites for just under 500 at the moment.
clear ferry
Oh, I need to get my Irish bank account back up and come over 😜
That is good bang for buck
strange vapor
I'm tempted, but I don't have room!
clear ferry
Triton le or regular/pro though? The Le is supposed to be shite
strange vapor
Also, need to fix up the PC I'm using for DAW duty 😦 Windows 10 reboot loop.
@clear ferry The proper Triton. There's an Le for sale as well for 400.
clear ferry
Brb going to .ie 🤣
strange vapor
Sure tis only a short hop south! Borrow one of those Viking longboats!
clear ferry
Vikings never said no to some pillaging just to get a good synth 🤷
I just casually told the wife "me and the baby might step out to pick up a synth" and she just gave me the stink eye 😣
clear ferry
I suspect that would ensue twice the amount of stink eye 😷
strange vapor
Only one way to find out!
clear ferry
Wonder if my Irish social security number is still valid or if it expires at some point 🤔
I could elope and buy synthesisers for a living 😂
hushed basalt
I went to the dark side
Bought a Google Home
Parents need virtual assistants
All the help they can get
Plus I couldn't build a smart speaker from scratch anywhere near the cost
$125 AUD walk away cost. For decentish room audio
clear ferry
The mini is perfect for my office
hushed basalt
I might get a mini for the baby's room
I believe you can use them as audio baby monitors? But that could be the Amazons
But being able to pipe lullabies on demand, plus telling google to turn lights on while changing nappies etc has it's advantages
I'll probably put the Google Home in the kitchen first
clever mortar
Put one of the smart displays in the kitchen 😉
I've got a Google Home Hub, and it's rather handy there
hushed basalt
I'll probably avoid the smart displays, any screens I think I'd like a modified HA frontend
clever mortar
The Lenovo is a bigger display, and better audio, but the Home Hub is a better unit all round
hushed basalt
I haven't looked into Lovelace yet
clever mortar
Well, I can swipe down and control all the devices
No pretty Lovelace, but it's functional
clear ferry
Wife was interested in the home hub for the kitchen, but they don't sell it here yet 🤔
light trout
Time for a little business trip then 😜
clear ferry
Indeed, I was thinking about a day trip to London to buy baby clothes anyway 😂
Only 60£ for a two way flight, and Primark is so cheap I get three bags for under £100
clever mortar
You can order them at Argos so they'll be waiting for you to pay and collect
clear ferry
Oooh didn't think about that, then I get time to thrift for guitars and eat some scones 😂
clever mortar
Means you don't go home without one 😄
clear ferry
😬
And a rental is cheaper than the train from and to Gatwick too, so easy to get stuff with me 🤔
hushed basalt
English can't do coffee
clever mortar
No, but they do tea well
hushed basalt
Old school cafes with giant mugs
Let's give people big mugs so they think they are getting good value
Now we have a big mug let's fill it up with milk
Because ratios are irrelevant
clever mortar
Would you like some tea with that milk
hushed basalt
Australians get coffee
Don't talk to me about Amsterdam
A cafe should not have an automatic espresso machine
clever mortar
Anywhere with a navy base gets coffee too
You know you're drinking proper navy coffee when you can stand the spoon up in it
hushed basalt
No cafe in Australia would be caught dead with a push button machine
clever mortar
Push button dishwater is not for me
clever mortar
If I wanted push button coffee, it would be because I was asleep and didn't know any better
My colleagues know that if I'm drinking machine coffee, it's a really bad day and to stay the hell away
hushed basalt
Still better than instant coffee
clever mortar
maybe
hushed basalt
We stayed at an air bnb in Amsterdam
clever mortar
Depends on the machine, and the instant coffee
hushed basalt
The host was useless, i assume she was burnt out from mushrooms
But every appliance was broken
Espresso machine, dryer,
Even the shower head was FULL of calcium
clever mortar
🤦
hushed basalt
I feel hospitality doesn't come naturally to Europeans ;)
At least the English were very polite, outside London
But London is full of Europeans anyways :D
hushed basalt
I went to York
hushed basalt
Night and day difference
clever mortar
Get across the border
hushed basalt
Well you're all northerners to me
clear ferry
Scootiiiish hospitality?
hushed basalt
The 17 year old ticket salesman for the tour bus was extremely apologetic that the bus was late in York
In Paris I'm lucky if they don't spit in my coffee
Which would probably make it taste better
clever mortar
Well, yeah, but that's also big city vs other
Though, there's also a proximity to the capital thing I'd swear
All capital cities I've been to are full of grumpy unhappy people in a rush
formal temple
with the unifi component for the host do i specify the port too?
clever mortar
halcyon magnet
Anyone else haveing issues with aliexpress? They shipped costume jewlery instead of the zigbee switch I ordered and then closed my dispute and ruled i wasn't entitled a refund, I've escalated it, but starting to think I won't see a resolution, just curious if this is the norm.
bright gyro
How much did you spend?
gloomy canyon
at least cool looking jewlery? 😄
halcyon magnet
Lol, no
wintry crow
You Scottish Tinkerer? Somehow thought you were from some Scandi country
clever mortar
Haggis all the way 😉
wintry crow
From the wild breeds of course
clever mortar
Of course
wintry crow
No farmed haggi for me
In Yorkshire now, but lived up there for nearly 16 years. Still regret moving back to England
clever mortar
Lived in England for a long time, very happy to have moved back
If nothing else, the pace of life up here is right
wintry crow
If my daughter wasn't only an hour away from me, I'd move back up tomorrow
clever mortar
Yeah, we moved back to be closer to family again
wintry crow
Saltcoats first, then East Kilbride
wintry crow
Only spitting distance, the barras was only about 20 mins away
"Cigarettes, tobacco, viagra..." 😂
clever mortar
I know the barras, spent much time when I was younger
dull chasm
EU talk is losing me and i think its prejudiced
clever mortar
barras == a place to get anything, legal or otherwise
wintry crow
Yup lol
clever mortar
(mostly otherwise back in the day)
It, and the Gorbals, have cleaned up a lot though
wintry crow
Almost every time I went I'd see someone getting huckled lol
clever mortar
Easterhouse is still a hole though
wintry crow
Yup. Govan is nowhere near as bad as it was either tbh
Most of the real fuds have either grown up or died
I remember a bunch of us doing the sub crawl... We all bought the subway tickets, started in Partick
Never got out of Partick. Absolutely destroyed
clever mortar
🤣
Yup, took some friends on a pub crawl in Glasgow once. They'd not realised just how many pubs there are
I think we got two blocks before they gave up
clever mortar
At least you got home
I know enough people that didn't, and found themselves in some other city
wintry crow
Hahahah
clever mortar
Nothing like catching the night bus to somewhere in England to give you a surprise in the morning
wintry crow
I was up there last month, stayed at the Jurys. Weird crowd tho - full of fanny up until about 10 then all of a sudden I was surrounded by wrinklies
dull chasm
🇺🇸
wintry crow
Hahah we used to send them North. Wake up in Aberdeen
clever mortar
That's cruel. What did Aberdeen ever do to you 😛
wintry crow
Hey coulda been worse, we could sent em to Dundee
clever mortar
🤣
dull chasm
the brit's lost
clever mortar
It's easy to get lost over here
wintry crow
Lost what Vasiley?
dull chasm
the war
clever mortar
On the other hand, keep going in a straight line, and you'll reach a coast soon enough
clever mortar
Well, we did rule more of the planet than anybody else in history
wintry crow
Used to love wild camping. No trespass laws - I really miss that
clever mortar
Damned if I know why we wanted to do that though...
Yeah, the legal system up here is nice/weird
wintry crow
I'm a walker, used to be up in the mountains every weekend. That's what I miss the most. Yorkshire's closest thing to a hill is a lumpy bit of mud
clever mortar
Yeah, the Highlands are quite different to what most of England thinks of as mountains
And the speed of change of the weather is deadly to visitors from the USA
wintry crow
I'm only an hour away from the peaks, which is where I originally got my love of hills, but you're right, it's just not the same
clever mortar
Nice this morning, heavy fog by lunchtime, snow in the afternoon, glorious sunshine an hour later
wintry crow
Oh yes... I remember being on top of Dumgoyne about 4 years ago in the sunshine, when the remnants of some atlantic storm hit. Horizontal hail like needles
clever mortar
Driving hail is something else, for sure
wintry crow
I need to book some time off work and take the pooch up there for a few days. Out in the hills is my rest
gloomy canyon
CPU 79.7 °C / WL0 55.18 °C / WL1 54.50 °C on my dd-wrt trendnet ap, wtf?
brisk glen
gah, my automation did not run because I capitalized home? oh linux, how much I love thee
clever mortar
That's not Linux specific
That's just normal
It's only Windows that defaulted to case insensitive 😛
dull chasm
be nice
dull chasm
your being very unsensitive and not very policatially correct and religion sensitive and gender is a problem with you too
clever mortar
I hate everybody equally
brisk glen
@clever mortar macOS is also case insensitive
clever mortar
The UI may be, the underlying part I'd be surprised at though
Given the unix heritage
brisk glen
I am onboard with @clever mortar here, you start to hate everybody
clever mortar
That's what being a system admin will do for you
Or any customer service role I suspect
brisk glen
naa the filesystem is case insensitive for HFS+ and the default APFS
brisk glen
or not...
APFS, like HFS+, is case-sensitive on iOS and is available in case-sensitive and case-insensitive variants on macOS, with case-insensitive being the default.
so ios is case sensitive and macos is not.... Jesus
clever mortar
🤦
brisk glen
@clever mortar but it gets worse.... https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/FileManagement/Conceptual/APFS_Guide/FAQ/FAQ.html see Implementation
its... freaking both
clever mortar
And more besides...
Being normalization-insensitive ensures that ... a filename can be found with any of its normalization variants
That sounds "interesting"
hushed basalt
I do agree that filenames shouldn't be case sensitive
Especially since every developer has different capitalisation styles.
I mean why would it ever be an advantage to have two files in a folder called File and file
And this is coming from someone who has linux as the only OS on all his computers
gloomy canyon
yeah. and all this chmod crap ... 😉
brisk glen
@wintry crow you have been out of the enterprise field for far too long
hushed basalt
Reddit/r/sysadmins is full of a lot of grumpy old admins
People who love server pets :D
It's starting to change now but not that long ago no one there used any Infrastructure as code, and thought virtual machines were the be and end all
Man I love docker
I would hate having to run multiple services on the same machine
storm summit
I don't like complex apps in docker. My docker skills aren't good enough. simple stuff is fine for me.
though you can usually pile tons of apps on a machine w/o docker....
clear ferry
@hushed basalt I've been grumpy all my life, the fact that I am now old is just a coincidence 🤷
hushed basalt
@storm summit docker definitely isn't for everything
But if your apps are monoliths it's worth seeing if they can be broken up
Bought a google home mini as well :/
$80AUD with a lifx mini white. That's very good value
Send help,
I've become a mindless consumer
Well I'm definitely not buying an R710 no matter how cheap they are
150w Idle power consumption works out to....
About $360 AUD a year in power
clear ferry
It's suddenly winter again 🌨
clear ferry
@hushed basalt you and your Imperial nonsense https://youtu.be/FHtgCS-yH5I
hushed basalt
That's celcius
clear ferry
I thought all Oz people used 🇫
eager trench
no 🇫 for 50 years here
tough igloo
There’s only 3 countries in the world that officially use the imperial system 🤣 (according to google)
But of course many countries still use parts of the imperial measurement system
clear ferry
Foiled by the imperial system again @clear ferry quickly retreat to the Hamptons
dull chasm
did you tag yourself ^^^^^
clear ferry
@dull chasm yes, third person burn of myself 🤷
dull chasm
🤣
strange vapor
hushed basalt
To be fair though
Kelvin is more scientific than celcius
You could jag on celcius for being 273 K at 0
hushed basalt
Have to represent all scales fairly :D
clever mortar
UK can't make up it's mind so we use both. Always choosing the one that'll cause most confusion 🤣
hushed basalt
That's because brits are stubborn
clever mortar
Well duh 😆
clear ferry
@strange vapor found a Triton le for €270 now 🤔
hushed basalt
We should just use universe time for everything
Number of seconds since the big bang
clear ferry
@hushed basalt Unix time or bust
hushed basalt
Don't overflow the universe though
Blue screen of death will be the burst of hawking radiation before we null into nothingness
strange vapor
@clear ferry Go for it.. And the M1 😇
clear ferry
@strange vapor I got double stink eye by just mentioning the Triton 🤕
strange vapor
She's not a fan of GAS?
gusty umbra
Anyone that have been messing with Shellys yet?
clear ferry
@strange vapor generalized audit software?
@gusty umbra not yet, I have four, but no time yet
gusty umbra
Cool @clear ferry - can you tell me how many GPIOs there is access to?
I need something that I can build behind my wall switches, that can give me 4 GPIOs so I can assign 4 buttons to anything with tasmota/similar
clear ferry
@gusty umbra https://shelly.cloud/shelly1-open-source/ this is the ones I have, no gpios i believe
gusty umbra
gloomy canyon
nothing to commit, working tree clean -- yay
gusty umbra
Seems there are at least 3 usable @clear ferry ?
strange vapor
@clear ferry Gear Acquisition Syndrome
gusty umbra
the gpio4 and 5 shown in the bottom, does those show through the casing @clear ferry ?
gusty umbra
I absolutely do not understand if what I need to buy a ton of right now does not exist on the market. I basically just need something the shape of a Shelly, to fit behind a wallswitch, that I can connect 230V to, and gives me 4 GPIOs to connect 4 buttons to that I can also control over wifi/zigbee/z-wave or whatever to integrate in Home Assistant.
I could do this myself with a Wemos D1 Mini and a hi-link 230 > 5V module and be done, but it is illegal to put DIY stuff on mains here. So I just need something off the shelf that I can install.
The wall switches I will be using are these: http://www1.lk.dk/katalog/vejledning/019D759022_07 UK.pdf
hushed basalt
@gusty umbra you could separate the two issues
Put the lighting circuit on a zigbee etc controlled switch,
And just use a wall panel switch that isn't connected to mains
So have the lighting 230v circuitry pulled up into the ceiling, and switching circuits up in there
Or just buy two Shelley's ;)
I hope those things are rated to the 250+ volts we can see on Australia
One guy just runs cat6 directly to the buttons on his switch. One pair per button. And just does all the logic in a central location in a rack
gusty umbra
@hushed basalt my lights are already on zigbee, as they are hue bulbs. So I don't need to actually need a physical switch. So I just need to connect something to 4 buttons so I can assign them to scenes
hushed basalt
Then just run cat6 to something
gusty umbra
Not sure how that would work
hushed basalt
Like you could use poe if you want
Or you can just put poor mans poe on it and a dc converter to an esp8266 or something
gusty umbra
Power is not really my concern. It doesn't matter if what I put behind my buttons are on my 230v mains or battery powered to be honest.
gusty umbra
As soon as I put an ESP8266 in there, it is illegal. Unless it is inside of a bought device
Actually, as soon as I put any sort of PCB in there, it is illegal.
But yes, I could just run wires for all four buttons from all my wall switches to a central location and do something from there. That I assume is in line with what you were suggesting with cat 6
dull chasm
@gusty umbra have you looked at haswitchplate
wintry crow
Folks anyone good with docker in general, not necessarily for HA?
gusty umbra
yeah @dull chasm that's not really what I'm looking for
I have the switches, I don't want anything that looks different than what we have in the house. So just need something to connect on the rear of my 4-button switches, that can send commands to HA, that is either on 230V or battery
dull chasm
ok dokey
deft reef
Hey all! I'm an HA lurker, first time ever joining discord or talking to the grouo
Just got HA installed on my new Pi yesterday
dull chasm
@deft reef welcome to the rabbit hole sir
deft reef
Why thank you
dull chasm
We take no responsiblity for a empty wallet
deft reef
Haha, I sense that end in my future
deft reef
Thanks for the advice
Hey, so I'm trying to get a recommendation for controlling my IR devices, TV, sound bar, etc. I bought an item for recastng IR signals that connects to wifi but it was hit and miss. Any good suggestions? I'm tired of 12 controllers
grand torrent
https://www.gearbest.com/smart-home/pp_229556.html + old logitech harmoy so you can get the codes
pure vine
So I'm having a issue where http connections will take a while to connect, especially after a long period of inactivity, but I don't know where to start touble shooting this as it is so random, router is using openwrt. The UDP DNS connections are working fine and happen quite quickly, According to firefox's dev tools
gloomy canyon
in the template editor how can I escape {{?
{%- set domains = [ states.device_tracker ] %}
{%- for domain in domains %}
{% for item in domain %}
{{ item.entity_id.ljust(0)|replace("device_tracker","sensor") }}:
value_template: 'Online' if is_state('{{ item.entity_id.ljust(0)}}', 'home') else 'Offline'
{%- endfor %}```I need {{}} around the value template :/
gloomy canyon
nope
got it
{%- set domains = [ states.device_tracker ] %}
{%- for domain in domains %}
{% for item in domain %}
{{ item.entity_id.ljust(0)|replace("device_tracker","sensor") }}:{% raw %}
value_template: "'Online' if is_state('{{ item.entity_id.ljust(0)}}', 'home') else 'Offline'"
{% endraw %}
{%- endfor %}```thanks anyway
stupid me, now the item is raw too 😄
ok more raws
deft reef
@grand torrent thanks!
last plaza
@gloomy canyon what are you trying to do?
gloomy canyon
In general or with the template editor?
zealous aurora
So I'm planning out my security system. Should my security parameter be inside garage (Door from garage into home) or door into garage?
clever mortar
IMO, the outer one
zealous aurora
That's what I'm thinking. Not putting a sensor on the garage door (That's connected to the security system, there will be an HA door control) so that I don't trip the countdown when I open the garage door
clever mortar
Nothing to stop you building layers
zealous aurora
The diy security systems doesn't really have layering
I'm looking at something that can be professionally monitored, so I'm thinking door/windows of the garage, then the entry doors (which is bullshit, someone thought it would be a great idea to put in two doors going into the garage from the house...right next to eachother)
clever mortar
My own take (and how the alarm of the house was reconfigured after we moved in) is that you want sensors on all perimeter doors, and motion sensors in key choke points
zealous aurora
unfortunately motion sensors are going to be difficult due to my kitten
well young adult cat
whatever
Little booger will trigger every motion alarm at the same time
clever mortar
We have a dog, so I know the problem
We only arm the motion sensors if the dog isn't home
zealous aurora
fair enough
clever mortar
You could use internal door sensors to provide away coverage too
zealous aurora
What system do you use, if you don't mind me asking?
I do plan on having at least one door on a sensor, the door to my homelab area, given the amount of very expensive things in there
clever mortar
I'm in the UK, so my commercial solution probably won't be what you're after 😉
zealous aurora
Oh your using one of the big company systems
clever mortar
If you want DIY https://konnected.io/
clever mortar
🤣
clever mortar
Well, https://www.home-assistant.io/components/#alarm, but IMO look for ones with local push/poll support
Rather than cloud
zealous aurora
Yeah, that's what I was doing
Trying to have as many local poll devices
my IOT network is firewalled pretty heavily
gloomy canyon
all my motion sensors are esp based.. anybody with a wifi deauther would win
btw is zombu2 gone?
clever mortar
He's on another reality
gloomy canyon
hum.
hushed basalt
@gusty umbra basically you have two options
Pull the 240v stuff out of the wall panel and move it all up to the ceiling, switched with shellys or something equivalent
And run low voltage wiring to the switch on the wall and put it into GPIOs back at base
Or see if you can fit in two shellys in the wall
To give you six GPIOs
Most things like Shellys won't have that many GPIOs,
gusty umbra
@hushed basalt unfortunately the Shelly does not have any usable GPIOs 😦
They are all live
hushed basalt
Hmm that's annoying
You could just cap off the shelly in the wall plate
And run cat6 to a new wall plate next to it
Then you don't have to move anything
broken junco
hey guys, if anyone is curious about virtulizing your home server/NUC using proxmox I have documented my setup here. Basically two choices, run hassio on debian or run hassos in proxmox VM directly.
clear ferry
Haugesund was a POS airport to land at, sidewinds from hell
odd mist
@dapper dragon I want to buy a CK2+ but I know that if I do they'll come out with a docker container for Protect the next week
dapper dragon
I don't think that'll happen anytime soon
and even if it does... there's something nice about an appliance that "just works"
odd mist
lol tell that to owners of the Gen 1 Cloud Key
dapper dragon
I own one and can't say it ever caused me any problems
but I haven't had any power issues so far
I understand that with an even slightly unreliable grid, you would be wise to invest in a UPS....
but that applies to anything running a database, not just the CKgen1
pure vine
Im struggling to find info on this, Is hdmi-cec recivers ment to report their voulume level
gloomy canyon
Don't use that component but has the device an attribute for volume?
strange vapor
@pure vine There's an audio control component in the CEC spec, however implementation is spotty at best.
fallow fox
OK. I need the input from someone other than myself. I had a flight today home from vacation, and early this morning I received an SMS from the airline, allowing me to check-in. After clicking the link in the message I was presented with personal details belonging to another passenger! I now have his full name, date of birth and passport number among other details. I feel like this is VERY serious, but the airline couldn’t guarantee that my details hadn’t been given away. What is even more uncomforting is the fact that they didn’t seem to care.... Am I overly worried here??? #help
strange vapor
If in the EU, you just need to mention GDPR and they would be in a very bad place. Outside of that, it depends on local law.
fallow fox
What airline doesn’t really matter, but it is one of the major Scandinavian ones! 😉 I think Norway is covered by GDPR through EES/Schengen agreements.
vast dove
We are.
fallow fox
But in general, we agree that this is serious business??
vast dove
So file a complaint with datatilsynet and CC the airline.
strange vapor
@fallow fox That's serious data leakage. Report.
fallow fox
👍🏻
brisk glen
thats identity theft level of leakage
fallow fox
Haha! Thanks friends for indisputable feedback! On further research on how to report this to the proper office here in Norway, it turns out they only accept written complaints through the post... I find that rather ironic.
fallow fox
I suppose twitter is good enough? How to maximize reach?
halcyon magnet
Any zoneminder user running in docker with https://github.com/pliablepixels/zmeventnotification enabled?
My Docker skills are weak, looking for an example to shamelessly copy.
brisk glen
@fallow fox just contacting their twitter support is usually enough
@halcyon magnet see https://hub.docker.com/r/dlandon/zoneminder/builds
halcyon magnet
Or maybe I’ll just switch to that build, thanks
brisk glen
you might be able to just docker volume the dirs you need
strange vapor
@fallow fox Or find a local tech journalist who's up for some fun. Request for official response from a known publication gets results fast.
fallow fox
I did try to tip two major news media here in Norway, but after 12 hours, no response. I did post on Twitter about it: https://twitter.com/magnuso/status/1107779130119127047?s=21
Twitter
strange vapor
@fallow fox You probably got a level 1 support drone when you called SAS. Sometimes I wish this was a thing: https://xkcd.com/806/
vast dove
@fallow fox send an email to dataprotectionofficer@sas.se
unreal orbit
Came home to a hot house to find that my AC had blown a fuse 😒
No idea why it blew, but hoping it was a fluke.
unreal orbit
Could be a few things. It hasn't blown again so far, so hopefully it was just a bad fuse or a freak incident
brisk glen
my home power is trash which is why I have to run everything on a UPS... or 5. If the ac does not have proper power filtering, then short power surges can and will cause issues.
hushed basalt
@brisk glen make sure you're using interactive UPS at least
hushed basalt
So cheap UPSs just turn on the inverter when the power goes out
hushed basalt
Fortunately power is pretty stable where I live and I'm cheap so I just have a cheap UPS
Fun note. Honda eu20i generators and the like are actually better than mains
brisk glen
has capacitors as well to filter the power against surges and brownouts
clear ferry
Thank goodness Norway has such stable and nice power that we don't have to think about stuff like that 🤣
brisk glen
yay America...
clear ferry
When was the last nationwide burnout? Wasn't there a solar event or something in the late 90? Remember reading something about it
Probably the 2003 I remember
hushed basalt
Yeah but Norway power runs on water
It doesn't count when the evaporation does all the work
Real countries run on renewables such as coal and gas.
As long as we stop using them and wait 10 million years they'll come back. So it counts.
Solar and hydro aren't renewable. The sun will run out in 5 billion years.
Reminds me of DS9 when the guy was freaking out that the universe would experience heat death in 11 billion years
clear ferry
hah, yeah, most of it is hydro atleast, we have such clean datacenters wow, but nobody wants to host here, they prefer hosting in dirty countries like the UK 😉
clever mortar
Hey, some of us make heavy use of renewables - don't lump us in with the English 😛
clear ferry
running hydro-electric generators by pouring out guinness and stouts does not count @clever mortar 😜
clever mortar
Wind power - from all the hot air generated by folks talking
clear ferry
Wasn't trump mad that they were going to build wind farms off the coast of scotland or something ? because it would mess with his golf courses
clear ferry
https://www.reddit.com/r/ScottishPeopleTwitter/ I love this subreddit btw, damn scots
hushed basalt
I don't mind nuclear power
Coal plants release more radioactive waste into the atmosphere
clear ferry
we have one nuclear generator in norway I think, the only reason it is still operating is to make contrast fluid for scans I think it was
hushed basalt
But oh no we can't have a few kilos of uranium buried in a shaft
Meanwhile we have coal, coal and coal
And some lovely fracked gas
Clean coal they call it. Literally
clear ferry
"fake news" 🤣
hushed basalt
I love when companies call gas renewable as well
clever mortar
Yeah, I'll take reliable nuclear over fossil
clear ferry
my gas seems renewable atleast, I never go dry and my wife keeps telling me to stop, but I JUST CAN'T 🤷