Yeah Unifi APs all the way
#the-water-cooler
normal ferry
So (just cause I'm a little tech-handicap) , I have my modem and then my main router connects to it and this is one access point. And then the plainest I can do is get another router with AP capability and connect it (via wire ?) to my existing router/AP , in order to create a second AP somewhere else in the house?
Did I get that correct ?
hushed basalt
Will be much better overall than the silly Asus monster routers
One router,
Then each Access point is just another device on your network
So just plug one into the LAN on your router to start
Then later on convince your wife you need a 48 port POE switch and full rack like the rest of us
:D
strange vapor
And your own Electricity Sub Station ๐
hushed basalt
But no never use a router for wireless. Inbuilt wifi is rubbish.
If you're on a 100Mbit connection or less and not doing advanced filtering or high speed VPN then tomato on a cheap router is really the best bang for buck
And it's got an awesome GUI
fair monolith
Go get unifi
set up your main home ESSID to be 5 Ghz only and set up an IoT ESSID for 2.4
blanket the house with APs for some stupid fast wifi. if you cant run a cable to a spot... you can mesh them as needed
shove a mesh point outside for wifi when mowing the lawn
I really want to dump this and get a pi 3b+ but im looking at $72.80 @hearty depot
b+ with POE hat and a case
hearty depot
Quite Happy with the Macbook due to Plex - A pi is getting there in trubleยฒ๐ฆ
hearty depot
Got here 2x3b 1x3a and 2xZeroW - On it adopting the services on the pi to the laptop
hearty depot
Thats then actually useful
the laptop have a prittey decent working battery still - but with an power outage my network is away
fair monolith
thats why I love POE
hearty depot
also the Pi dont use much power afterwards
Got also 4 open POE ports - but no more devices wich need it
fair monolith
I get quick power outages from time to time
hearty depot
every 180 days it burns out my pre fuse
fair monolith
holy shit, thats some dirty ass power
fair monolith
your wiring is bad by now then
strange vapor
Git a nice new 24 port POE switch last week. Previous owners of the house had Cat 3 to telephone jacks in every room, so was table to use them to pull multiple Cat 6 ๐
hearty depot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/511183813024415774/551372381080518667/IMG_20190302_095037.jpg
strange vapor
Old house with walls that eat Wifi. Have three access points to cover the house properly
Does have an advantage though, the AP in the living room only covers the living room, as soon as you walk out the door it's straight on another AP.
Makes presence detection easier!
fair monolith
not even that, it gives you really fast wifi
isolates you from the outside and multiple APs = dream
strange vapor
Have the TV and NUC running Kodi on their own little wired vlan which keeps that traffic off the Wifi as well, so REALLY fast Wifi ๐
fair monolith
oh hell yes, I just found my old intel atom cherry trail tablet, new HA server as soon as I can shove linux on it
hushed basalt
@fair monolith do you need poe for a server pi
The poe hats are quite expensive
There's other poe options for the pi with a breakout board which are a fair bit cheapee
fair monolith
I donโt have plugs, and I found a old tablet that will run ha much much better
Just installed debian and in the process of setting up networking
Sweet, now I just need to figure out how to disable the display from systemd and we will be on the gravy train
clear ferry
HA on a tablet or a macbook, two things I would never do for something as critical as HA has become, that would kill the WAF :p
strange vapor
Currently running it on a Pi, but looking at getting something a bit more, em, hardy to run it on along with a few more services.
fair monolith
@clear ferry I want a NUC but this is plan B for now
clear ferry
nuc, such overpriced wow ๐ฆ
strange vapor
@clear ferry Have a NUC behind my TV for years, and it's reliable as hell.
clear ferry
@strange vapor I've had a desktop with cheap hardware running for 13 years, it's powered 24\7 and runs most of my day to day stuff, I call that reliable too, and it cost 1\2 of what a NUC with some umph costs today ๐ but the again, my requirements are just three or more displays at this point, everything I do that needs some processing power I run in my garage-rack ๐
strange vapor
The NUC has the advantage of fitting onto the VESA mount on the TV. A fact I forgot about when I got a new TV, gave my brother the old one, and only when I picked up the remote for the NUC did I realise it wasn't into the house any more...
clear ferry
yeah, the VESA mount thing isn't useful for me as all my monitors on the desktop, and my TV is fixed to arm mounts
hmm, I need to get my router migrated from untangle to pfsense for sure, so I can get my IPTV to flow through it properly, and also get the IPTV integrated in Plex, that would be nice
no IGMP-proxy features in Untangle, which is a bummer
hushed basalt
Netflix is a problem for x86 hardware that isn't windows or mac
Kind of kills a HTPC in a lot of ways
Plus Plex front end apps are pure dogs breakfast
clear ferry
The DVR function is fine in Plex, I just need to get IGMP to pass to my network :p
hushed basalt
Plex doesn't support subtitles well in the front end
Third party apps are the only sane way for subtitles for Plex
I'm pretty sure until not that long ago Plex pretty much transcoded anything that was subbed as well
The developer response was 'so what'
clear ferry
I have used subs for years in Plex with no problems, for all my weebo anime stuff ๐
no, it only transcodes if the player doesn't support the subtitle format
which I have only seen with xplay and srt files
hushed basalt
.srt are used for everything
hushed basalt
Vobsub?
Also anime is the devil
Episodes never follow a naming convention
Those kids need to follow scene rules
clear ferry
kawaii ๐ฏ๐ต
hushed basalt
I just wish they just merged with tv groups
[lolz] eren has a whinge - 5x e632 sub dub.mp4
Naming conventions, where we're going we don't need conventions
RIP my boxee
That was pretty cool back in the day
orchid rose
I should remember since irc times always to scroll down before writing something... At least in Discord you can delete the message
pure vine
does anyone have any links on nginx with subdomains, mainly the DNS bit
unreal orbit
Like a tutorial?
pure vine
NVM, i think ive got my head arround it. just to run this past people, would putting *.[domain name] work, or do i need to wrap my head arround it more
unreal orbit
Depends on your registrar
light trout
Depends on the DNS provider
unreal orbit
Beat ya ๐
light trout
Yeah. ๐ข
unreal orbit
I recommend against wildcard subs though. It only takes a second to add another one, that kind of thing is better to be explicit especially when you start dealing with ssl
pure vine
I mean, you can get wildcard certs from lets encrypt now anyway
unreal orbit
Yeah but some services don't accept wildcard certs
pure vine
I tend to have all my web stuff going through nginx
light trout
And adding a cert does not fix the problem
pure vine
?
west moss
i am trying to install my new hikvision camera (ipc-d140h), the install guide tells me to visit the ip address in the browser, but when i do i get redirected to "/notSupported.asp" wich gives me 404 error
anyone know whats wrong=
strange vapor
Any chance they're doing some sully user agent checking or similar?
west moss
how you mean?
i got the same error both on phone and on firefox (on linux pc)
the guide simply say to visit the ip and set up a user and password
strange vapor
@fair monolith https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpvjo6wDFUA
west moss
it say i shoud power on the device while holding the reset button for 10 seconds, except there is no blood explanation where the reset button is
strange vapor
@west moss If it's doing a redirect to noSupported.asp, I'd be assuming it's because it expects something from the client it's not getting. Often it's because of things like expecting specific user agents or Javascript or similar.
Don't have a Hikvision, so it's only a guess.
west moss
it sais nothing about it anywhere
and the damn manual say you can reset it with the resetbutton... would be nice if there actually where a restbutton then
fuck this crap, i'm returning this garbage and getting an ubiquity camera instead
west moss
my god. i cant believe it.. it only works on internet explorer, wtf kind of crap is this
i dont have a windows pc ffs
strange vapor
Heh, I was right! User Agent ๐
You could try something like https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/uaswitcher/
west moss
will try, tried "ietab" on chrome, that lets me view the page, but the input fields are not working and i cant keep using that every time i wanna change settings
i'll probbly have to get different cameras anyway, having to use a useragent plugin everytime you want to view the camera or change settings is just dumb
strange vapor
Definitely.
west moss
that addon worked
gonna see if i can update the firmware, maby that solves it
otherwise they are going straight back
west moss
cant even upload the firmware without a plugin that only runs on windows
can anyone recommend any other camera brand than hikvision? it needs to have PoE
strange vapor
clear ferry
@west moss i have some random Chinese cameras, but i have only been in the webgui once, to change the default password, everything else is just the rtsp stream to zoneminder, configure once, never touch again, so the crappy webgui means nothing
west moss
so you just do the record on motion from zoneminder then?
humble pond
@west moss - You can update the firmware with iVMS-4200, but make sure it's not a grey market camera or the firmware might not work as expected. - https://us.hikvision.com/en/soutien-ressources/telechargements/client-software
You can also remotely manage the camera without the web interface as well.
last plaza
IMHO- the iVMS application is extremely CPU intensive. I got 4 cameras, and when I run that app, I can hardly move my mouse... I ended up not using it
west moss
@humble pond uea buts the sae problem as with the webgui.. it only works on windows
pure vine
that sophos link isnt loading
west moss
guess i'm gonna have to set up a windows vm or something -.-' hikvision realy do love their windows crap dont the
humble pond
@west moss There is a Mac client as well. Unless you are running linux on everything ๐
clear ferry
@west moss yes, zoneminder does all the recording, ha just displays the cameras and triggers based on activity
viscid crag
@last plaza Hey there. Just out of curiosity, did you give the presence detection a try?
last plaza
@viscid crag I did that very late at night, ran into a few problems, but was able to make it detect the bluetooth...
this pkg-resources==0.0.0 was giving error when I ran pip install -r requirements.txt - I had to remove that from requirements.txt file. Looks like you did the pip freeze and exported that list
viscid crag
Ok, I'll fix that.
last plaza
then I got an error at https://github.com/cgtobi/pypresence/blob/master/presence.py#L204 saying connected_flag is not a property of Client object... or something like that
I commented out that line and ran it for a quick test, and it worked... by the way, I am ran this on RPi, where installing bluepy and PyBluez and ruamel wasn't easy ๐
anyhow, I spent some time, and got too late, and went to bed ๐
will give it a try tonight again
I didn't run it as a service.... I wanted to try on CLI first
viscid crag
@last plaza you have to run it as root (I know that's bad, haven't found a proper solution yet) because of the bluetooth stuff.
last plaza
ok... I will make sure of that!
viscid crag
I updated the README and the requirements. Thanks for the feedback.
last plaza
That looks great by the way, thank you! I will definitely give you more feedback once I try it completely.
also, here is what I had used in the past, that worked okay https://www.awesome-automations.com/blog/rpi-bt-tracker/
viscid crag
And what makes you look for alternatives?
last plaza
accuracy ๐
It works for presence detection, but not pin point where I am inside the house - upstairs, downstairs, basement, backyard....etc
viscid crag
I wonder if my script works for that as I never tried that. But we sure can try to come up with a solution. As long as you don't expect super quick responses.
last plaza
yup - I was even looking at rssi values, but the performance has been slow
I think the secret is the combination of things
viscid crag
most likely.
I only use is as another piece to determine the presence alongside with wifi and others.
last plaza
ok... presence detection has been very reliable for me... I use life360, owntracks, nmap... etc
unreal orbit
@clever mortar what's your goto linux distro for a desktop?
hushed basalt
I've been thinking of trying opensuse
unreal orbit
I've only used ubuntu so far, just curious if it's worth exploring other options
hushed basalt
Mint has some niggling issues for me
clever mortar
Always worth exploring other options, to see what works for you
You could even go off the deep end, and try Gentoo, or NetBSD ๐
unreal orbit
I think I'll stay comfortable in the shallow end ๐
hushed basalt
Gentoo can be installed with one command
My_gentoo_install_script.sh
:p
cfdisk /dev/hda && mkfs.xfs /dev/hda1 && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/ && chroot /mnt/gentoo/ && env-update && . /etc/profile && emerge sync && cd /usr/portage && scripts/bootsrap.sh && emerge system && emerge vim && vi /etc/fstab && emerge gentoo-dev-sources && cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make install modules_install && emerge gnome mozilla-firefox openoffice && emerge grub && cp /boot/grub/grub.conf.sample /boot/grub/grub.conf && vi /boot/grub/grub.conf && grub && init 6
Easy
unreal orbit
Coming from windows sometimes I have to remind myself that I don't have to make it look like windows.
Some stuff just doesn't make sense to me UI wise
hushed basalt
Windows 10 has a pretty good UX when you take away the candy crush rubbish
But sometimes I prefer the more mac style dock on the bottom and a skinny task bar on top
I need to figure out how to make the fonts in linux not look like rubbish though
unreal orbit
I also have a problem with things like linux discord client. The scrolling is terrible and everything moves really slowly
But if I open it in browser on the same machine it works flawlessly
strange vapor
Is Linux From Scratch still a thing?
fair monolith
@strange vapor that has been fixed
I ordered the newer revision that is unaffected by the underachieving usb current syndrome
Well, Linux is no good for cherry trail tablets
pure vine
gah php is annoying me
im trying to get grocy set up, yet some how it doesnt think it has permisions for the data dir
pure vine
nvm, it looks like the version of php im using has a breaking change in sqlite
pure vine
no, it was SE linux
I have temporelly fixed it by stopping selinux enforcing, but i will get arround to fixing properly
fair monolith
@unreal orbit stuck with Ubuntu, itโs super easy to fall in the which Linux distro should I use rabbit hole
Then you realized you spent a year of your life just installing Linux from scratch or trying all of the distorts
hushed basalt
Yarp
Linux is a tool to me
Not a job in itself
Time spent dicking around with linux is time not spent learning more important things
Just hostname lookup in Ubuntu annoy me
fair monolith
Indeed, thus why docker has been god send for me
More more shit, this version of php is broken with this version of MySQL
The app needs this version of x because y
Drove me insane
pure vine
My issue seems to be that I wasn't aware that selinux was causing my issues :P but I've fixed it now
selinux, a good security idea, but not very well communicated to programs when it stops them
fair monolith
Heh
hushed basalt
Containerize all the things
On a side note i am disappointed that dockers official installation method is piping a url to bash
I think they have a repository for ubuntu now though
I think they've caught on how bad that is
clear ferry
@hushed basalt let VMs live ๐
fair monolith
goes to eddit the hassos boot file to config the poe fan on windows VM... it BSODs
clear ferry
Pff, I should bring a moonshot chassis from work and host 180 HA instances in 4U ๐
hearty depot
Easy zero tier config on your router at home and boom ๐คฃ
Somone got a tip for me how to run 2 websites from one host btw? - I dont get it yet
vast dove
nginx
hearty depot
ok - running - But I just can forward one :80/:443 port from the host - and cloudflare dont let me configure ports
or..
vast dove
you only forward port 80/443 to your nginx host, let nginx figure out the rest
https://blog.linuxserver.io/2017/11/28/how-to-setup-a-reverse-proxy-with-letsencrypt-ssl-for-all-your-docker-apps/ This is a nice read on the topic
clear ferry
I use apace front-end, that sends request to 8 different web servers behind it based on the URL requested
vast dove
Someone likes to do it the easy way (nginx) and some prefer the harder way (atxbyea ๐ )
clear ferry
Guess I'll just die then ๐คท
vast dove
Why?
clear ferry
From an overcomplicated setup๐
vast dove
I played around with Apache Guacamole here one day, nice tool.
nah, we need people like you to do the hard stuff
clear ferry
Faster, harder, scooter
vast dove
We're getting faster, harder, Scooter, yeah
clear ferry
I set up that apace server system like 13 years ago, just keep adding hosts behind it, love it ๐
The HA bit was a bit different though, thank Dog I found someone who had done it before me ๐
vast dove
๐ ๐
fair monolith
nginx is my love
clear ferry
Mmmmmm driving to Sweden today to buy diapers and food for 40% of the price in Norway ๐คฃ
fair monolith
I have all of my docker web services behind my nginx / letencrypt stack
may add php one day to the mix if I dare
strange vapor
@fair monolith Using Nginx as well. php-fpm makes PHP tolerable..
fair monolith
@strange vapor well ya, I would just add the php container to my nginx network
I am just simply not hosting my own website atm ๐
clear ferry
I've hosted my own websites since 1998, money saved ๐
fair monolith
speaking of, can you set all of the recommended ssl params in a separate nginx file and example if you can?
@clear ferry I was until my server ate shit
clear ferry
I haven't had a server crash since 1998, so I don't know the feeling ๐คท
fair monolith
quick cheap ovh server and a restore of all docker volumes with a portainer deployment
clear ferry
I just run on reliable stuff I know well
fair monolith
at least my ability to migrate is stupid fast now
clear ferry
Random home built servers, or stuff I steal from work
fair monolith
yah, ill get there when I have the money
HA has been downgraded back to a Raspberry pi B+ when it gets here
hearty depot
Intresting - Didnt even got the right idea of ngnix - still using server_name *.example.org in my config
clear ferry
No excuses, says the guy who started working at age 9 to buy computer stuff ๐
fair monolith
@clear ferry server shit or Hawaii with my GF and most likely to be wife
hard choices
clear ferry
Both!
fair monolith
I have been investing in the networking bit instead
my servers may be weak.. you will have the best internet at my place tho
clear ferry
I need to check the pricing on my ISP, currently I have 250/250 but I think the jump to 500/500 is just 10$ more now
strange vapor
@clear ferry Yup, php-fpm in container works a charm compared to mod_php ๐
fair monolith
@strange vapor the best part is that you can have several php versions at one running and define the version for each application
west moss
If i grab a slightly better camera with motion detection and such built-in, is there any use for something like zoneminder or?
fair monolith
@west moss what are you trying to do?
west moss
Well, honestly i just want simple stuff like see videofeed in home assistant, record on motion, and possibly get update in home assistant when motion happens aswell
So i can send a notification to my phone with a link to the camera feed
west moss
yea, not sure whats good with motioneye, from waht i can gather it aims to do what zoneminder does, just worse
west moss
so with a hikvision camera i should be able to get a motionsensor that can be used to let home-assistant know about movement
i dont actually have any of those models tho, but hopfully it would work woth a ipc-d140h camera aswell
gonna borrow a windows laptop from work today and try it out tonight (the horrible thing with hikvision is that the webgui to configure it only works on internet explorer)
otherwise i guess i need to send the camera back and get the DS-2CD2155FWD-IS model instead, its twise the price tho ๐ฆ
fair monolith
why on earth would you buy something that needs IE in this day and age?
west moss
hopefully just updateing the firmware will solve that
but i cant seem to find any good camera from another brand
it needs to be dome style, and have PoE
fair monolith
define good
hearty depot
hahaha - f... you too
nginx: the configuration file /etc/nginx/nginx.conf syntax is ok
nginx: configuration file /etc/nginx/nginx.conf test is successful
user@MACBOOKPRO:/etc/nginx$ sudo systemctl restart nginx
Job for nginx.service failed because the control process exited with error code.
See "systemctl status nginx.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
@clear ferry i have 100/20 vdsl for $100/month :(
And I only get a sync speed of 75
west moss
@fair monolith those seems to need unifi NVR tho
fair monolith
@west moss they can be used with any other
strange vapor
@fair monolith Does the Unifi stuff support Onvif properly yet? They were very much against it at one point?
fair monolith
https://dl.ubnt.com/guides/unifivideo/UniFi_Video_UG.pdf Appendix B: Standalone Mode
west moss
i do love unifi products tho, they are about twise the price of the hikvision ones tho, but unifi is damn good ๐ sucks that it needs to use something like zoneminder for it tho, as i cant get motion detection triggers in home-assistant from them
fair monolith
@strange vapor no idea what that is, all you need is the RTSP stream
@west moss Im a big fan of https://unifi-protect.ubnt.com/cloud-key-gen2
west moss
nah, i dont like the cloudkey, i'd rather keep my controll local....
i run the unifi controller in docker on my nas
strange vapor
@fair monolith Nice protocol for manging camera which is supported in HA.
west moss
basically what i want is, camera that records on motion, ability for home-assistant to get a notification on when trigger occurs (to run automations and such)
thats pretty much it
then when home-assistant sees motion occurs, it will send a notification to my phone with a link to go in and view the camera
west moss
problem with unifi cameras seems it will require zoneminder for this, and zoneminder will need to do the motion detection functionality,
problem with hikvision cameras is it requires a damn windows pc to set it up
fair monolith
@west moss any off the shelf camera with motioneye...
rstp stream and you are good to go
west moss
yea, but most off the shelf cameras are wifi with batteries rather tahn PoE
to bad they are so damn expensive i cant just buy one of each and try it out ๐
west moss
oh shit, they even deliver to sweden ๐ฎ probbly first time ever i seen a product that amazon delivers here
well, guess i got my plan made now, borrow home a windows pc and see if new firmware fixes the IE-only problem with the cameras i got home, otherwise its hopefully not to late to return them :)
in that case i will probbly go for zoneminder + unifi cameras i guess
west moss
wouldn't call 150$ that cheap tbh ๐ not when the amcrest one you linked is just over 100
eitherway, at that price i could just go with a unifi one instead, same price
fair monolith
it is $111.25 ?
fair monolith
ah, your shipping sucks
west moss
rest of the world amazon is garbage
strange vapor
amazon.ie redirects to amazon.co.uk, which could be interesting at the end of the month. amazon.de delivers here happily though.
maiden estuary
anyone have a DAKboard (alternative) setup as the center of the home? looking for some idea's of what software to run on it?
hushed basalt
Amazon is near useless in Australia
Only a fraction of US stuff ships to AU. And Amazon AU is worse than eBay
People rarely use Amazon here. I assume in the USA people get amazon packages more than once a week
west moss
yea same here, dont think i ever heard of anyone ordering something from amazon in sweden
nor that anyone would have amazon prime or whatever their streamin service is called, same goes for the echo and all their other stuff
fair monolith
I refuse to use the echo
pure vine
@west moss United Kingdom, Amazon Logistics themselves covers most of the UK, with the mid to north part of wales and probably most rual places in england and scottland fufilled with Royal mail, its also kind of a pet peeve of mine where people call the UK england
Citys almost always have a distrobution center
and towns may get coverage from the closest city or are covered by royal mail
clear ferry
I think I've seen two items that ship to Norway from Amazon ever, but with shipping cost five times item value
strange vapor
Biggest problem in .ie is that amount of Marketplace items which show up in search but won't deliver to Ireland.
Luckily there's services like ParcelMotel which provide a UK, well Northern Irish, address, and then deliver to handy pickup points.
iron nest
I'm considering Netatmo and Drayton Wiser for smart thermostat and radiator valves. Does anyone have an opinion or experience on which is best?
hearty depot
aah - god I love this guy xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2gq4IwIc_s
pure vine
I now own a hand held barcode scanner, mainly for grocy
west moss
i need one of those in my life, i hate tomato
pure vine
One improvement to Michaels bot I would do if I make one is mount the webcam to the spike platform
And then possibly make a thing the robot can return to to drop the tomato off
hushed basalt
Does anyone find it inane how much babysitting ubuntu server install needs
Like just ask me everything you need from me at the beginning and then go and do it
Instead of 10 prompts throughout
strange vapor
@hushed basalt I have a preseed for Debian. Only questions I normally have to answer are hostname and partitioning. Everything is preset
I assume Ubuntu has preseed too?
hushed basalt
I'm certain it does
But it feels like quite a high barrier of entry for me
For a once off
Ive seen other distros be a bit more sane about it and just cluster all the questions at the beginning
All they really need from me is username, password, hostname, partitions, keyboard layout and locale
strange vapor
@clear ferry Don't think Kickstarter will work too well for Debian or Ubuntu ๐
clear ferry
@strange vapor I've never tried it, but I guess they have something similar though ๐
clear ferry
Shiiiiiiiiit I only have five things tracking in seventeentrack, I need to log on to AliExpress ๐ค ๐ค ๐ค ๐ค ๐ค ๐ค ๐ค ๐ค ๐ค
hearty depot
how it worked with the or templating again? ๐คฃ
strange vapor
@clear ferry Preseed is the Debian equiv.
light trout
just add or between two computed statements @hearty depot
hearty depot
got it already ๐ Luckaly i used it before
hearty depot
But you meight be able to help me in #general-archived ๐
west moss
Anyone know how to config hikvision camera to record on motion? Can for the life of me not get it to work
All in all, the installation and configuration of thease cameras are sooo not self explanatory
Dont think i have ever had a product with worse gui
clever mortar
If it's like the HiWatch (their budget range) Configuration -> Event -> Motion Detection
west moss
I have the hilook, tries that but the damn video isnt saves anywhere from what i can see
I have set up nas in the camera and all that
And it created a bunch of gargabe in the folder, but wont record to it propperly
clever mortar
Ah, so, I discovered (with some forum reading) that there's a limit to the disk size on the NAS
240 GB maybe? If the available space is above it breaks
If it works, you get a set of folders, and files in there
clear ferry
What a strange code limitation
clever mortar
I suspect very old code
clear ferry
Yeah, but what in tarnation would make the limit 240gb, I can't remember that being a limit in something ever ๐คท
clever mortar
Nobody after all would need more than 640 MB of RAM
light trout
I have a nas with 250 (240) limit pr disk
clever mortar
๐ฎ
clear ferry
@light trout did you time travel from the early 2000s?
clear ferry
Need a model number, that sounds interesting
light trout
Another day, I have an idea on where it is, but there is no where in h**l I'm going in there ๐
clear ferry
I remember the 137gb limit in early 2ks, but never 240
clever mortar
137 GB sheesh
clear ferry
clever mortar
My first hard drive wasn't 1 GB ๐
clear ferry
Mine neither ๐
light trout
Old farts โ
clever mortar
I was on my... fourth? computer by the time they made hard drives for any I owned ๐
clear ferry
I don't even remember the size of the first pc I had, it was an IBM PS2, I think we got it in 89, and I used the 12" monitor for random Linux servers up to 2004 atleast
clever mortar
Sadly, at that age, there's no way I could have afforded one
My second (and technically third) computer was a Sinclair Spectrum, first was a Commodore Pet clone
clear ferry
We had a commodore 128 before the pc though
clever mortar
Next as an ST (and then another), before I finally got around to a PC...
The (Atari) ST died through my own fault, trying to upgrade the floppy controller to support the new floppy disks
My soldering skills weren't quite up to the challenge
odd mason
w00t
finally got keycloak working with keycloak gatekeeper
getting closer and closer to single sign-on for all my services
brisk furnace
Hey everyone - if you were going to automate a professional rental suite (furnished / hotel like) what would you use?
warped kettle
eternal pasture
I still have my Commodore 64
tough igloo
Anyone have the xiaomi chuangmi wifi plugs? I have 2 and they constantly drop off the wifi network. Have tested for interference, reset them and connected them to a different AP etc. wondering if this was normal behaviour. Is there a third party firmware I can flash (google doesn't think so)?
eager trench
I have a couple of those and they are stable... I did originally have some issues but I disabled MAC filtering and also expanded the DHCP range.. It might have been I was out of DHCP leases....
clear ferry
@eager trench the joy of iot, I'm considering moving from a /24 to a /23 ๐คฃ
eager trench
hahaha
I have a /56....
lol
IPv6 of course and nothing works on that iot things wise though
or go a /16.... that should be plenty lol
west moss
@clever mortar i have the disk set to 30gb, found that wierd issue aswell, and when i set to 30gb it was able to create the files, but it still does not record to it :/
Dis you set schedule as event, motion + alarm, motion, or continuesly?
clear ferry
@eager trench /16, that is ambitious, my wife will kill me before I fill /22 atleast ๐
west moss
also @clever mortar how did you set up the hikvison camera in home assistant?
clever mortar
I'm set up for recording on motion
Motion detection & dynamic analysis
Schedule is 24x7
Upload set
Under storage, it's set to record based upon event
west moss
hmm, ok will take a look, i finally got it o record, but it recorded every event into a single file, kinda crappy but atleast it worked ๐
gonna give it a few more quick tries otherwise its going back and replaced with an amcrest camera, they seem to work fine in home-assistant aswell
@clever mortar you use still_image_url, is there no way to get the real stream? i dont want still images :/
Also could you send what the url path is? because i cant seem to find anything in the ui on hwere to get still images nor the stream
clever mortar
The URL depends on the camera, somewhat
There are stream options, but HA uses the image feed
~lmgtfy hikvision streaming url
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
In this case, /ISAPI/Streaming/channels/101/picture, but your camera may be different
west moss
dont think they work tho, because i tried the /MotionDetect/1 url that is used for the motion sensor in home assistant, and that dotn work on my camera :/
clever mortar
https://www.ispyconnect.com/man.aspx?n=hikvision is the second hit for me
It lists a few thousand devices and URLs ๐
west moss
the still image url i cant get to work, nor the mjpeg, but the rtsp works atleast, but home-assistant cant handle rtsp right? i can only find mjpeg as a component
hearty depot
A useful fast to install service where i could try out my new ngnix config?
When I remember right I didnt had a issue to get a RTSP stream into HA - But the pi wanst up to it
fair monolith
@hearty depot docker?
docker and portainer
spin up another nginx on a different port for testing
clever mortar
Apache/Lighttpd
hearty depot
nay. (not yet?) I didnt understand docker yet - but only tried for 3 hours - Screwed up the network policys completely
clever mortar
It takes a few moments to install Apache, Lighttpd, or some other web server and get a default site up
hearty depot
just searching for the Lighttpd docks atm - Could use the www with it ๐ค
west moss
could get the camera into home assistant with ffmpeg, gotta say, its way harder to get this all set up and working than i expected ๐
either way i will change my camera out as this model does not seem to work with the home-assistant motion sensor component, and does not seem to be able to record into multiple files (tho i might even end up using an NVR to handle the recording, but keeping motion sensor on camera is nice to save proccessing power)
the amcrest cameras seems to be rather easy to use with home-assistant so might switch to that, should work fine with NVR aswell, but easier with home-assistant than the hikvision ones
clever mortar
Home Assistant is not an NVR and IMO you shouldn't try to make it one
It's a convenient way of displaying an image
west moss
well, thats why i wanted the camera to do the recording ๐ to not need an nvr
clear ferry
zoneminder โค
west moss
but i want to get a notification on my phone when motion happens, with and url to let me view the camera
clear ferry
I have ZM send me still pictures and \ or videos on detected motion, use it whenever I leave for vacation
west moss
but i'd rather only have home-assistant port forwarded, not need an nvr and port forward that also
clear ferry
no forwarding on zm, it sends it via email
west moss
if it could send via pushbullet or simmular i guess it could be ok, but if i could have home-assistant proxy the stream it be awsome, and do everything i want/need ๐
the reason i want multiple files, 1 per motion event is that i want to have a script remove all files that are x days old, no need to save videos when nothing interesting has happened
clever mortar
Honestly, set up ZoneMinder or some other NVR and do it right
You're trying to bodge it, and that won't end well
If you want lightweight, then the Motion project is very lightweight, and MotionEye gives you a pretty GUI setup
west moss
doesn't ZM and those take alot of computer power to proccess motion for multiple cameras?
(i only have 3 cameras tho)
clever mortar
Any motion detection does
west moss
yea, but thats why i wanted the camera to do the proccessing ๐ each camera handles its own stuff
clear ferry
Any 10 year old computer probably won't have problems with that
running it on a pi on the other hand...
clever mortar
Pi is good for one, ish
west moss
atm i use a pi3, but i will set up proxmox on my ~3 year old laptop this weekend
fair monolith
@west moss theres a reason the uifi cloud key 2 + has 8 cores
motion detection with those cameras is costly
west moss
i know, thats why i wanted to keep it in the camera rather than the server
to save server usage
fair monolith
but then you are limited to much more EXPENSIVE cameras
west moss
~80$ cameras seems to do it fine tbh
fair monolith
im going to be running object detection on my setup
aka if it sees a person, dog etc
west moss
swedish laws say i can only have a camera that covers my own property, not allowed to have it see anything outside my property, and i got a fence all around.
So i kinda want to se everything nomather what it is ๐
aslong as it is larger than a leaf ๐
fair monolith
and before trash pandas
clear ferry
same here in norway, so I have angled the cameras to to not hit the road
which gave me a lot of false positives anyway
when car lights illuminated the road
fair monolith
@west moss so you cant have a camera doorbell there?
west moss
well, aslong as it does not view anything outside your property you can
fair monolith
sorta would view across the street
west moss
for me its ok, because my door is in an angle and then there is the house wall afew meters behind
clear ferry
@west moss I'm gonna replace my doorbell with something smart, so it will automatically record video when the doorbell is pressed
currently the motion makes it into 4-5 videos
west moss
and i also got a high wooden fence around the entire place that blocks view
so you wont be visible untill you actually open the fence gate and enters the property
strange vapor
Just after spotting that /proc/cpuinfo now lists the bugs which a CPU is known to have. Old Celeron box here:
bugs : cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass l1tf
west moss
zoneminder cant tell home-assistant when there is movement on a camera right?
hearty depot
Aaah - starting to love ngnix more and more
west moss
" lets you monitor the current state of your ZoneMinder install including the number of events, the current state of the cameras and ZoneMinderโs current run state."
doesn't realy say anything about motion, so thats why i figured it cant
hearty depot
Curios..
Running a own mailserver?
west moss
from what i gather in that manual it just tells me "2 events happend today"
not, an event is happening atm
west moss
aaaaah, smart
west moss
yea, sometimes you just need to think about something from a different direction ๐
when i saw other components had the sensor as binary for motion i kinda tunnelvisioned in on that
strange vapor
Pro tip: When putting together a PC, SATA is NOT a wireless protocol...
clear ferry
@strange vapor in theory it could be I guess, I remember playing with ATA over Ethernet 15 years ago, guess that could be used wireless ๐
strange vapor
Don't seem to have that tech available!
west moss
hmm, a laptop with 8gb ram, 1.6ghz i5 cpu wont get me to far as a server to run proxmox with home assistant and zoneminder will it?
unreal orbit
Only one way to find out ๐คท
west moss
yea, installing proxmox on it now, i thought it was more powerfull than it was :/
unreal orbit
Though I generally recommend against using laptops as servers
west moss
old laptop that a cieling light fell down on and broke the screen ๐
why? it got a built in ups ;P
unreal orbit
Lol
clever mortar
Not, generally, designed for 24x7 ops
unreal orbit
The power management stuff can become an issue, and that โ
clever mortar
You can turn off most of that ๐
unreal orbit
You can, but it always seems to come back to bite you eventually
clever mortar
Well, if your laptop is half decent
And yes, long term they tend to "have issues"
Overheat, melt, that kind of thing
It'll all buff out though
west moss
well the main issue i can see is heat, laptops are not that good at heat management
unreal orbit
A little melting never killed anyone
Hence the not designed to operate 24/7
They need off time to cool completely
clever mortar
Or at least run on a low enough load to not need the fan going 24x7
west moss
so it wont be to good for heavy loads for a long time, but aslong as it gets its "downtimes" it should be fine
clever mortar
You can get away with that
unreal orbit
But you can get extra fans to suck out the added load
At that point you might as well get a used desktop on ebay though
west moss
well id love to get a nuc, but ... . cash....
unreal orbit
I paid 100 bucks for my server. It's never let me down
You could also get a legitimate server for cheap, but they sound like an airport in your house
west moss
yea, my serverroom is a walk-in closet connected to the guest bedroom ๐
clear ferry
Garage server room 4 lyfe ๐
shy comet
@clear ferry what did you do for heat management? or is that not an issue where you live lol
my garage can get over 120F easily in the summer
pure vine
I would do what a lot of companies do, make a smaller room and put a air con unit in
clear ferry
@shy comet usually summer outside can get 35c but in the garage it is never above 30, worse with winter and-35 when I forgot the door open, 0c means the servers power off
shy comet
oh wow
pure vine
My server is also a laptop, but its goot a good cooling for a laptop of its age
fan hardly speeds up
clear ferry
@pure vine bigger room is always better with no cooling, more area for heat to live, no need for cooling unless you have a lot of stuff by a lot I mean 3-4 full racks
pure vine
depends
clear ferry
I have a full rack of stuff,but only a blade enclosure with 1-2 blades +5 switches + a few Nas boxes are powered 24/7 the rest is powered as needed
pure vine
if your cooling it externally you want to keep it small so the aircon doesnt have to work as hard, if its just the server fans and no AC, then a open room is better
clear ferry
I should have brought an apollo8000 home, that can run Water cooled with inlet water up to 70c ๐น
pure vine
I want linus to redo whole room water cooling, but doing it propperly where each PC is its own loop
and is heat exchanged to the room loop
becuse the first time he did it it was 1 long loop through all the PC's
clear ferry
I think the apollo8000 does 160 servers per loop, that is 2 cpus plus 2 gpgpus per server if memory serves right๐ค
shy comet
@white radish neato and xiaomi do frequent software updates
xiaomi probably more often id say
unreal orbit
@shy comet I was surprised by the dirt, but mostly the hair!
The updates don't really do much afaict
Besides occasionally breaking the HA integration
shy comet
โ yea we try to update as quick as we can
neato updates sometimes cause a small break but a quick fix for the most part
white radish
at this point i think im pretty sold on the s5. i wish i could manualy carry it and have it try other floors. but idk if any of them would do that
unreal orbit
99.99% of the time it's just a matter of getting the device key again
pure vine
so just installed LM sensors(might make a component for that), laptop is tunning at quite a cool 34C
unreal orbit
for xiaomi
white radish
i dont want to jump to the d7 price
unreal orbit
You could manually carry it down
white radish
and then just continure the map and it will all show up as one level. but then manually zone it out?
unreal orbit
Like I said, the performance for cleaning will be the same, you just won't have a visual map
white radish
ah gotcha. but i can put it down and hit the go button
shy comet
@white radish you can most definitely move neatos and have the clean additional areas
unreal orbit
You could even get fancy and map out the coordinates for each floor and have a sensor in HA that tells you what floor it's on
shy comet
tahts cool it tells you where it is currently
white radish
i dont think im there for the price jump
unreal orbit
It doesn't @shy comet it would have to be a seperate sensor. If there was a 'get_coordinates' service that would be amazing
shy comet
@unreal orbit check the main library, it might be something simple to add if it exists ๐
unreal orbit
It's not, I have checked unfortunately
The local API was reverse engineered, so it is slightly incomplete in some ways
shy comet
yea neato has official docs but sometimes they are not so helpful lol
by the time we had zone cleaning reverse engineered they updated their docs and it matched our findings LOL
but you would think that with the robots creating a map, it should be able to say what area it is in
unreal orbit
I would have rage quit that component haha
It tells the Mi Home app where it is, so there has to be a way. It is just currently unknown
I'm holding out hope that it will be possible one day soon
shy comet
wonder if you can run a state response while it is cleaning and see if it returns it
white radish
do you guys have great lovellace cards to select zones, modes, etc? or see current or past paths?
unreal orbit
You can't see the path it takes in HA
That's the thing that's missing from the local API (as far as it has been reverse engineered)
white radish
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/xiaomi-vacuum-cleaner-card/64456/81
i been skimming this
shy comet
i think that is the same one as listed here: https://sharethelove.io/picture-elements-cards
there is also a neato card on that site
unreal orbit
Oh you can root the vacuum to get access to the map apparently
white radish
im officially excited lol
real latch
What do you guys think about PC's based on old Celeron/Pentium from aliexpress as a home server? At first, glance looks like way more flexible than single board setups like RPi.
unreal orbit
That's basically what I'm running my server on. Works great
real latch
What about the heat? My storeroom has no vents.
white radish
can you set seperate zones for only the mopping settings?
draw around my rugs for example
unreal orbit
@real latch I haven't had any issues with heat as of now, but mine is in my living room
white radish
my server was an i3 laptop for about a year
unreal orbit
@white radish You can do that, but you'd lose that ability if you want to do multiple floors
That was weird
white radish
the other floors are all carpet so no biggie
unreal orbit
I'll tell you now the mopping feature will be more trouble for you than it's worth. The vacuum does the job well enough by itself
white radish
i trust you. i just rather ask an no ahread of time then be disappointed
real latch
@white radish I don't need more CPU power since my RPi3b avg load is about 5%. With HA, Pi-Hole and other stuff loaded. I would like to get more flexibility with storage (read TRIM support for SSD etc). Semi-decent single board PC's with eMMC support costs about the same as x86 mac mini style pc from ali. So I'm trying to figure out weak sides of such setup.
shy comet
here i am running HASS on an i5 with 6gb of RAM and a SSD lol
clear ferry
@shy comet and me on a 24core/192gb/12sas system, although only 8 vcores and 8gb ram to the VM ๐ญ
pure vine
running on a laptop i5 with 2 physical and 2 HyperThreaded cores
white radish
now im curious. are there rumors of a newer model vacuum?
sharp spire
seems like the channels in this discord aren't grouper properly
sharp spire
like if you try to shrink a category, the channels don't go away
orchid rose
it shrinks the channels that don't have unread messages
mute the channels if you don't want to see them
that said, there's probably a few too many channels here now
sharp spire
ah have to mute them first I guess
clear ferry
Relevant to HA.. https://i.redd.it/jkt7pg180yk21.jpg
dull chasm
@sharp spire we have had request for the channel but ๐คท cant make everybody happy
midnight adder
Gonna spread some home assistant in the workspace...
wintry crow
So when is international mens day?
unreal orbit
Every day
clever mortar
Which is both funny, and not... ๐คท
unreal orbit
It's one of those funny because it's true things
clever mortar
Yeah
Like having a while male leader for a group about getting more "minorities" involved in tech
It's just a ๐คฆ moment
unreal orbit
He could be gay though ๐
dull chasm
and just real lite skin
unreal orbit
reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3-vXmvrAzM
dull chasm
i am gonna compain to @last plaza
wintry crow
Lol funny vid
unreal orbit
Love me some Bo Burnham
wintry crow
dull chasm
@pure vine what?
pure vine
I was jockingly bringing up the content of channel topic becuse of the convo above me
unreal orbit
I mean it was all in joking, but I'm not sure what rules you're referring to that you think were broken
Political I guess? Kinda stretchin that one though
pure vine
yeah, politics, Im jokingly bringing it up becuse it is a stretch
wintry crow
Okay now you have me down a youtube rabbit hole lol
pure vine
Youtube Rabbit holes, the ones with lot of thornes to watch out for
wintry crow
See you in... 4 hours where I'll have realised that I'm related to aliens and a giraffe named Frank
fair monolith
And my blog is up and running, time to make some HA hassio configuration guides
white radish
@unreal orbit the roborock doesnโt integrate with GH or Alexa on its own huh
unreal orbit
Not with specifying rooms, no. But that's what HA is for ๐
pure vine
I wonder, has anyone made use of the fact you can use the Pi 3 as a sdr to make a zigbee device
fair monolith
what?
odd mason
anyone using portainer?
pure vine
@fair monolith the pi 3+ can act as a TX sdr with its WiFi chip
eager trench
portainer yes..
fair monolith
portainer is what makes docker nice to use
white radish
I am as well
And looks like Iโm getting a s5 so Iโll probably ask for your config on Monday haha
odd mason
nice i'll look into setting that up then
been using docker compose and it's okay but i'd rather manage my stuff from the web instead of having to ssh into the machien
eager trench
you can use docker-compose to deploy portainer as well @odd mason
also look at phil hawthorne's hadockermon and the switch addon by ludeeus...
fair monolith
see Manage a LINUX Swarm cluster with Portainer Server and the Portainer Agent
well according to the U.S.A, Huawei are Chinese theft clones of our stuff
hushed basalt
@odd mason i find docker compose way better than GUIs for managing containers
But having visibility on HA is great. I double the hadockermon
hushed basalt
I'm just a bit fan of infrastructure as code myself
odd mason
i'm not a huge fan of hassio/docker but i do like running some other stuff on docker (postgres, keycloak, etc)
fair monolith
Then again, Iโm planning on ditching docker and going full kube
@odd mason you will be when you hit dependency hell one day
odd mason
nah i run in a venv
fair monolith
Outside of python
odd mason
no dependency issues ever (been running for a while)
oh ok
so i'm running most things on separate LXC debian containers
odd mason
but some things are easier to set up in docker so i have them running in an ubuntu vm with docker
fair monolith
Some? More like all
odd mason
difference is LXC allows me a semi-full OS
fair monolith
So is docker, the difference is that containers are disposable
Any data you want to keep, you store in a volume
Thatโs what makes docker hard for most users, itโs that core concept
west moss
anyone here running zoneminder in a docker :/ ? i cant seem to find a decent one :/ or do i realy need to run it in its own VM?
running multiple vms will just take so damn much extra cpu memory and storage :/ would be cool if i could run it on a synology nas
cant realy afford spending 1k+ on a server to run multiple vm's atm ๐ฆ
odd mason
@fair monolith the hardest part for me was with docker was understanding the networking aspect
Still is if I'm being honest
tranquil bone
Protip, don't test your new automation that shuts down the nginx container with a 12s interval
clever mortar
๐คฃ
Like my favourite prank startup script, that calls the shutdown service with a random delay of 30 seconds to a few minutes
tranquil bone
Hah, ouch
clever mortar
Great way of teaching people how to recover broken systems - it's actually really easy to deal with
tranquil bone
For myself, I had ssh set up and just renamed the flows file. But, it was a gaffe worth sharing
clever mortar
I doubt you're the first to do something like that
tranquil bone
And not the last. Foolproof systems just make for bigger fools
clever mortar
And sometimes just the "problem" of only paying attention to the thing you're doing
Like the folks that fitted the button to open the doors between two computer halls, on the left, big red button
The folks that fitted the emergency power shutoff did so on the right of the doors, with a big red button
It went unnoticed, until a week or so in when somebody hit the button on the right to open the doors...
fair monolith
@tranquil bone pro tip, use Certbot Webroot so you never have to shut down nginx
@odd mason what about it confuses you?
You simply add networks externally or in the compose config. Each network has its own DHCP name server that allows you to simply type in the container name that is on the same network that you want access to
Thatโs how a lot of more complex docker setups isolate their database from letโs say nginx
Only x service has access to y database and z service has access to x service but not y database
Iโm an network administrator so this is like bread and butter for me :p
wind sphinx
hi there...can someone help with linux wlan?
clever mortar
What distro?
fair monolith
And what version
tranquil bone
@fair monolith Thanks. And I too appreciate medieval economics with my light novels
gusty umbra
If I want the latest (binary?) off something on github, how can I then get that? I need the latest of this https://github.com/Hypfer/Valetudo , but not the latest one in releases, I need some features that are implemented after pull request, but the release included it are not out yet. I tried git clone, but it just gives me the folder structure. I need the 1-file (again binary?)
clever mortar
If they've not compiled it, download and compile yourself
gusty umbra
Hmm, got no idea how to do that ๐ Will look it up
unreal orbit
You rooted your vacuum?
gusty umbra
Yes
unreal orbit
How difficult was it?
gusty umbra
Well, I am a moron at this kind of stuff. I can't even figure out how to compile something off github. So if an idiot like me can do it, I'd say anyone that doesn't drool more than a liter a day could
unreal orbit
I'm just very cautious about rooting devices now. I bricked a couple phones in my youth
gusty umbra
It has a backup function, so if you screw something up, it can restore itself to factory
unreal orbit
But it adds so much benefit to the vacuum ๐ฉ
Oh I didn't know that. I wonder how it works with future firmware updates or how it affects the operation of the vacuum
gusty umbra
It doesn't update anymore after being rooted
And it is offline ๐
I don't think there's all that much benefit in rooting it, if you are looking for functionality. I only did it to stop it from calling home
unreal orbit
It still works with the same HA integration? You don't need to turn it into mqtt or something?
I just want the map in HA
I would have 0 reason to keep the mi home app then
unreal orbit
๐
gusty umbra
they just re-implemented coordinates being shown on map, that is why I need to update
I cannot find my coordinates to set up areas before I get that running
unreal orbit
Hah. I did that manually like a chump
gusty umbra
actually they also just fixed the live map again
but yeah, I don't want that stupid mi home app either
unreal orbit
It has some cool features but it's very sporadic
gusty umbra
being REALLY hating my life, trying to get the Xiaomi gateway running isolated
unreal orbit
Almost seems not worth it
gusty umbra
I managed to get it blocked off the internet at least
but keeping it on seperate VLAN wasn't possible. I did not exactly understand why, but what people said are that the MDNS feature needed can only communicate one-way, so that's why it kind of works, but no updates from sensors are received.
I hate being so dumb at all this stuff, I hope to catch up at some point. I got a ConBee and a Zigbee2MQTT stick lying also, but cannot figure that out either.
pliant forge
Ummmm rooting the roborock, that sounds interesting.
marsh canyon
what is the right channel to ask some plugin questions ?
clever mortar
There are no plugins in HA
There are #330990055533576204 add-ons, and there are #330944238910963714 components, but no plug-ins
low harness
I call lovelace resources plugins...
clever mortar
Mostly I've seen people refer to add-ons as plugins, but I've also seen people refer to components that way, as well as Lovelace resources
light trout
Let's call it all stuff, keeping it simple ๐
clever mortar
things
I need to write a thing that interacts with thing and other thing so that thing turns on when thing comes home
dull chasm
exactly and the consumer will be happy
pure vine
So i fixed my tradfri issue, i told firewalld just to always allow UDP
fair monolith
you know hassio is ready when your tv randomly turns on in the bedroom
fair monolith
cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp 48850
that POE hat keeps the b+ at a nice temp
fair monolith
@pure vine not at all
the pi3 b+ has its own plate however to increase the thermal area
the hassio boot time is really fast as well
pure vine
Ehh, I would still add one as it increases the surface area for air to go over and carry heat away from the chip
fair monolith
thats interesting, the UI was a bit laggy before adding nginx into the middle and now its smooth
hallow viper
hey
Im after some help with the Duckdns setup, i can no longer access it directly through IP nor can i access it from another pc or phone
ive read everything i can and reinstalled it twice.. made sure all my port forwards are correct
any chance i could get a hand with it
clever mortar
If you're using Hass.io, ask in #330990055533576204, otherwise #330944238910963714 probably @hallow viper
hallow viper
okay thank you
hushed basalt
Wife bought an apple watch today
Such expensive tastes haha
Now I can justify all these smart home purchases
clear ferry
Thankfully my wife knows what ecosystem is best, and her watch has more than 20 hours battery life๐
clear ferry
Yeah, that is like one of my customers who wasn't interested in saving โฌ8million a year if we refreshed their platform, they liked what they have ๐ค
hearty depot
Lol - my HA jurnley started only a year ago
clear ferry
@hearty depot i started 5 months ago๐
dull chasm
i started last week
obsidian grove
pure vine
I can't remember I may have started using home assistant a year to 2 years ago
dull chasm
hey i didnt say what i started last week
junior forge
clever mortar
Ooooooooh, savage!
dull chasm
@junior forge not quite
clear ferry
@clever mortar light lost, but light found again ๐
Or perhaps they are translights, but they are hard to turn on ๐ค
I just ordered a Xiaomi nose hair trimmer, wonder if I should block it in the firewall like all the cool kids ๐คท
chilly scroll
In Home Assistant, is there any easy way to debug why automations keep not running/triggering when they should?
Everything will be working correctly all day and then an automation just stays on and the values are way above or below the thresholds. If I restart automations, it seems to trigger then.
hallow wasp
Does anyone know why this automation script is getting an error? '''- id: open_back_door
alias: Open Back Door When Arriving Home
trigger:
platform: state
entity_id: binary_sensor.garage_door_tilt_sensor
from: 'off'
to: 'on'
action:
service: lock.unlock
data:
entity_id: lock.back_door_bolt_lock
quartz ether
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quartz ether
What error are you getting?
You can already make it cleaner by doing
id: open_back_door
alias: Open Back Door When Arriving Home
trigger:
platform: state
entity_id: binary_sensor.garage_door_tilt_sensor
to: 'on'
action:
service: lock.unlock
data:
entity_id: lock.back_door_bolt_lock
Try triggering it manually using the 
page in home assistant. If that works then your trigger is the reason
strange vapor
Gotta love third party python client libraries which generate nice stack overflows ๐
Writing a PagerDuty platform for HA, as they do offer a nice API and have library on PyPi. Unfortunately it seems they haven't tested it against large accounts, and there's a few questionable choices in their client implementation ๐
For example, if you just call the Users() method, it will attempt to create a string with all users which doesn't work well in a company with a few thousand users!
worn jasper
I really need to learn how to use git haha
strange vapor
clear ferry
@strange vapor xkcd always hits the nail on the head, that is exactly my relationship with git
strange vapor
Likewise. I've gotten better at it, but there has been more than a few times I've resorted to the above.
light trout
I do that weekly ๐คฃ
clear ferry
Reminds me, I found this and thought of you lud https://i.redd.it/r3gzvv3kv4l21.png
worn jasper
yeah i'm fighting with it ATM because for the first time ever i'm using branches
and its got me so lost haha
strange vapor
I've started using Branches as well, and it does help a bit ๐
Moved from Gerrit to Github Enterprise at work, so branches help a lot.
worn jasper
i've always just used master and one of the thigns i'm trying to work on is my workflow and automation of tasks etc with my personal website so that i can get a process down when handling cilents as well. dev branch for devving and master is what will be on thep roduction when i get there
my problem is i think i'm biting off a huge chunk at once and its not helping. learning a new way of doing react, with new tech for error reporting and automated build systems with code coverage etc. whcih is cool and all but i'm like ughhh how to make it all just work sometimes XD
strange vapor
Recent came across software still using RCS.
Rancid, a tool for automatically pulling down network configs and putting them in version control. The network engineer who set it up just used the default backend.
low harness
Just wait until you discover the reflog. It has the power to fix ANYTHING that you mess up.
... and also break things even worse...
strange vapor
@low harness Speaking from bitter bitter experience?
low harness
"wait... I don't need to reset. I can fix it with the reflog" No, you can't.
flat lintel
Anyone a IPv6 master here that can help me out a bit? I'm very proficient in v4 but never have dealt with v6 at this level.
strange vapor
Don't know about master, but know enough to be dangerous ๐
fair monolith
@flat lintel what about IPv6?
flat lintel
@fair monolith having issues configuring for my new ISP
they have v6 support, my pfSense is getting the address, but having issues with I believe DHCPv6-PD
fair monolith
Indeed
flat lintel
I think I have a working setup but then I don't see a v6 address so I change another setting and then it looks fine but a few minutes later I get a new lease without a v6
oh and I previously had v6 working fine with Comcast
so I know my equipment is good
fair monolith
Yah..... shit never works
@flat lintel itโs one of those call your isp, check your config and pray it works
flat lintel
yeah they don't provide v6 customer support
fair monolith
Some times they miss config it on their end
@flat lintel it might be worth a call anyways to have one of their engineers check
flat lintel
I already had a DM with them
they were great and understanding and pulled engineering notes
and I spoke to them on the phone yesterday, dude I got said v6 wasn't supported for the building
which was obviously incorrect
fair monolith
Well, at this rate we will never drop ipv4
flat lintel
yep
fair monolith
I canโt even get docker to use IPv6
flat lintel
i had v6 working great on my entire network under comcast
and I'm sure i'll get it working great on waveg too
just gotta twiddle the right knobs ๐
fair monolith
Question is whoโs end needs the tweaking
flat lintel
its almost assuredly mine
my pfSense is getting a valid v6
and I can ping6 from it just fine
it's just a DHCP issue for my clients
fair monolith
Oh stateless IPv6 I miss thee
strange vapor
Playing any fun and games with ICMPv6 on PFSense? IPv6 is a hell of a lot more sensitive to messing with ICMP than IPv4
flat lintel
haven't done anything about ICMPv6 yet
I know I should set a rule to allow it
right now it's blocked
strange vapor
Is that rule getting hit?
flat lintel
I haven't specifically blocked ICMP, it's just being caught by the catch all
WAN and LAN ruleset
and also, like I said earlier, I can sometimes get a v6 address to a client and ping6 from a client just fine
I think i'm just changing stuff trying to get it working
so by the time that the lease renews i've screwed something up
strange vapor
If you don't want to open it, set a explicit block and see if it's getting hit.
clever mortar
Thanks for reminding me that I haven't enabled IPv6 access to my HA system...
hushed basalt
Any matebook pro x owners here?
trail crag
clever mortar
Switching to HA Proxy in 5โฃ ... 4โฃ ... ๐
strange vapor
Nah, iRules for all!!!!!
pure vine
waits to see what happens, and will possibly move to a fork if one forms
hushed basalt
What about caddy
eager trench
caddy works great....
clear ferry
Long live Apache ๐
trail crag
Because skills are stupid. No one likes saying "Hey Assistant, talk to another assistant..."
orchid rose
^this. Not sure how neither Google or Amazon has figured this out yet...
strange vapor
How long before in the middle of a conversation Alexa and it's ilk will pipe up with "I hear you're talking about X, how would you like to install this skill which offers X"
Will put the tin foil hat away now..
clear ferry
Well, I can say I was not pleased with the Skystream Three, so now I've ordered a Roku Premiere Plus and hopefully the experience will be better ๐
Hey, they even have Clippy as a @clever mortar version https://pics.me.me/hi-it-looks-like-youre-too-young-to-remember-clippy-40244248.png
hushed basalt
I just can't wait until Bixby claims all the assistant market share
Oh what's that. No one uses Bixby. Ever.
clever mortar
It probably has more users than Cortana
hushed basalt
Sorry Samsung. Can you please let me disable this stupid dedicated button
Accidental activations don't count as users @clever mortar :D
clever mortar
๐คฃ
hushed basalt
I don't see myself getting a smart speaker
As cheap as they are, There is a reason they are cheap
I just need to learn snips.ai now
If I want a domain just for my own stuff, is .online the cheapest?
strange vapor
@hushed basalt Have a Pi running MPD into a Hifi I already had. Works a charm.
strange vapor
Even a relatively cheap Hifi has speakers as good as most "smart" speaker. A lot of it is purely down to size, the woofers on a normal Hifi speak can simply move a lot of air!
In relation to domains, a good way to see what is cheapest is to see what spammers are using. If you want really cheap, get a .xyz as they're currently going for less than a fiver, just don't expect to sent email from it as a lot of providers are just dropping emails from .xyz domain. Renewal will probably be a tenner a year though.
Personally, I'd just go for a .com or .net and pay the tenner a year. Sacrifice a few cups of coffee or two pints, and you have it covered.
clear ferry
zzzzz studying powershell
clear ferry
most lazy instructor ever also in this recording
hushed basalt
One does not simply study with discord open though
I need to learn the hashicorp stack
Especially vault and consul
clear ferry
I do with three monitors ๐
clear ferry
I have a usable type of ADHD I guess, because the more things I work on in paralell, the better ๐คท
I always work on multiple systems at once, even HA Unix-boxes
I hate working single-threaded
hushed basalt
Hmm i wonder what domain I should grt
{first_name}.me
{first_name}.dev
{first_name}.solutions :D
{first_name}.service, .app,
Having a rare first name is awesome
clear ferry
Yeah, your parents were wierdos to call you badtelcotech, probably lost a bet with some friends ๐คท
hushed basalt
It limited my career choices
{first_name}.xxx
Hi mum just log into plex.{first_name}.xxx :D
light trout
Some of these extensions like .xxx and .dev have rules for using them
clear ferry
@light trout you ain't hosting on .xxx ? sexy saxophone music ensues
hushed basalt
Ill use .cloud for my own stuff and .dev for showpiece stuff
Unfortunately atxbyea.sucks wasn't available
light trout
I did not meet the requirements :/
clear ferry
that's what my wife says ๐ฆ
hushed basalt
That's what I told your mother last night Trebeck
light trout
Let's draw a line here on that topic
clear ferry
powershell got boring quite quickly, none of the internal recording were any fun
let's move over to RESTful
hushed basalt
Do you do windows admin
clear ferry
Nope, not since 2005
hushed basalt
Man namecheap suck at webhosting
Every time I try to use their site it's slow and timeouts
Over several times over several years
proven spruce
company name doesn really inspire confidence
strange vapor
Very interesting thread: https://twitter.com/SarahTaber_bww/status/1105256554700460032
unreal orbit
I swear anytime I decide it's time to publish a project, github goes down and I ALWAYS think it's something I'm doing wrong
light trout
So it's you the keeps breaking GitHub...
gloomy canyon
anybody in the mood to add some ssl cert expiry sensor for me? hass tells me the connection timed out and i try to figure the problem out...
orchid rose
ask on the support channel and post the config you're having trouble with
gloomy canyon
if have no trouble with the config, I've got trouble with my server.
or better with both servers. dunno if the remote machine is the problem or my homeserver
gloomy canyon
yep, double checked the pihole config and all settings in the netplan config