Watch the world burn in the meantime.
#the-water-cooler
hushed basalt
strange vapor
For fun a while ago, I turned off IPv4 internally where at all possible. The only issue I ran into was MySQL permission issues, so I just changed over to Postgres. Was pleasantly surprised at the lack of breakage!
clear ferry
I need to start playing around with ipv6 again, I did a lot between 2000-2003, but I have barely touched it since 2011
strange vapor
For the last few years, the primary Wifi network at FOSDEM has been IPv6 only with proper NAT64 and DNS64 setup. It's working so well now that no one even notices anymore.
A few years ago, when they did it first, a lot of Android phones wouldn't work as they only considered a network up if there was an IPv4 address available.
A lot of Google people at FOSDEM, so that got fixed fast
clear ferry
ionic sun
All sorted for the time being - I thought they were going to be difficult about it as I don’t pay for a static IP
strange vapor
Used to work for my ISP. I was responsible for setting up most of the IPv6 infrastructure there, so I have nice native IPv6 at home 😄
Just checked, the major of my traffic is IPv6 mainly because of Netflix and Youtube.
peak breach
grrrr Discord is so insanely shite with a busted scroll-wheel…!
does it have a setting to use real scroll bars?
hushed basalt
Use the force Luke
clear ferry
@ionic sun havent had a static IP ever, used dyndns since 1999 I think
hushed basalt
I hate using ip addresses in any deployment methods
Local or WAN
Makes things very fragile imo
unreal orbit
If you're using static IPs or DHCP reservations I don't see an issue with it
hushed basalt
I like to keep service workers disposable and easily replaceable
Relying on DHCP reservations adds another link in the chain that can break, and is really a manual process
But if my duplicati service is just called by duplicati, or duplicati.local or duplicati.domain.com etc, it can stay that way for every other device that uses it
Hell if I use the FQDN I can access the service from any container, local or wan device
With appropriate security measures of course
unreal orbit
It's risk/reward. DHCP reservations should never fail, and if they do your network is probably down anyway. Having a single point of failure is a lot easier to deal with than 10s or 100s
nocturne roost
Not in IPv6 tho
That's the beauty of MDNS and ICMPv6
Sadly nobody uses that still
nocturne roost
MAC Spoofing ?
hushed basalt
Oh what's this, a server went down and you moved the application onto another server. Oh wait it doesn't activate. And their support takes two days to get back to you
strange vapor
@hushed basalt Why? I't's easy to spoof!
I've moved a few apps to KVM with the mac access set to whatever is required without issue.
hushed basalt
Yeah I need to virtualise it
Was just running it on bare metal
But it's just such a pain, something that inconveniences the honest and doesn't even slow down the dishonest
nocturne roost
DRMs in a nutshell
strange vapor
In the old job there was a customer who was playing for six units of colo space to put in an old Dell Optiplex Desktop and a firewall for VPN to multiple offices. There was some software they relied on where it was tied to various identifiers on that PC, and the devs had gone out of business.
Their DR was Norton Ghost and a USB HD!
nocturne roost
They used Windows XP too ?
hushed basalt
I feel sorry for you windows Admins
strange vapor
Couldn't tell you, we only supplied the space, power and network. They managed it themselves
nocturne roost
It's like when big companies doesn't have a certificate for SSL when even us hobyist have one
odd mason
how the fuck am i getting emails to my work email address for help with home assistant
are people that unaware about their actions?
thorny trench
That is just rude.
nocturne roost
A bit stalky too
unreal orbit
Who emails random people for help anyway? Discord is the place to be if you want to bug random people
thorny trench
When I did android recovery development, I had someone call me at work.
Angry. I was very Angry.
strange vapor
Address associated with github or something?
thorny trench
I'm going to have to call my HA programming time "home improvements" or my wife is going to end up killing me for the time I have in this.
hushed basalt
Speaking of no SSL
My government is about to get kicked out
And the party has no money,
And I just came across a blatant campaign advertising site using government resources
And it's been so hastily thrown together. It's basically a 2 page website, but they didn't even use HTTPS
odd mason
@strange vapor nope
hushed basalt
This is also the party that gave $435m to a shell corporation with no tender or review for "great barrier reef conservation"
thorny trench
Hey - At least it wasn't 8 billion for a wall.
I mean at those kind of numbers ... its just "lots of money"
hushed basalt
We gave $100B to our telecom provider for the priveledge of renting our own pit and pipe infrastucture off them
thorny trench
That sounds like a solid plan
hushed basalt
At least Trump is overtly corrupt and incompetent
At least half of the people here think they're the pragmatic realist party, while simultaneously being hung out to dry by them
thorny trench
While I understand the difference... there is a strong resemblance to the rural poor and blue collar in the US
hushed basalt
They're also the party that 'fixed unemployment' by changing the definition of employment to >1 hour a week :D
Also doesn't include people who aren't looking for work in the past four weeks
wary jolt
@hushed basalt, yeah! It's screen is meh! I have upgraded everything I could: runs Debian (I bought it with DOS on it), 16G of ram, 250G SSD mSATA card + two 500G HDDs but that screen is the only thing that makes me want to upgrade.
When I am docked it doesn't really matter though.
dull belfry
Anybody know how to play an m3u playlist and cast it to my google home device?
slim ore
not sure if google accepts m2u
m3u*
@dull belfry : just tried it ... but no....
Used media_player.play_media with the following json { "entity_id": "media_player.living_room", "media_content_id": "http://radio.imagin-8.net:8000/mpd02.m3u", "media_content_type": "audio/x-mpegurl" }
all i got was a bleep 😛
slim ore
so you have to send it the stream i presume
dull belfry
I have a library with music made m3u files for it
solemn kindle
hi my name is Ds77 how are you guys?
slim ore
@dull belfry using a direct stream url works
dull belfry
How?
@slim ore could you show me the service?
I managed to fix it by using media extractor component
clear ferry
Oof Volkswagen has a shitty design for battery life of the connected mobile phone, they only have 4 lines, so 4 lines is 100%, 3 lines is 99 to 75%, 2 lines is 74 to 50%, 1 line is 49 to 25% and 0 lines is 24 to 0%, gee I guess I am out of power soon, no wait I have 24%
viscid solar
Hey guys, I am writing a python script which makes a curl request to an API which returns two values. anyone able to point me in the right direction of how to put one of the JSON values into a variable?
light trout
Something = result
dull chasm
result =>< nothing is possible
dull chasm
np your welcome
fair monolith
oh how I love my new multi colored LED bulbs
hushed basalt
@clear ferry same with my hyundai
I want to rip out the stock screen /stereo though
The display is rubbish and the software is awful too
Just not sure about buying random android stereos off ebay for $500-$600
hushed basalt
@viscid solar use requests
If you use requests to get the json it will just be in a nested dictionary/list format
Then you can just use standard python dict get methods etc to get the variables
r = requests.get('https://api.github.com/user', auth=('user', 'pass'))
json = r.json
I just love adverts like this,like wtf Kafan https://imgur.com/gallery/igROtg3
hushed basalt
@clear ferry if you're even in a situation where you need to swap PCBs on a hdd something is very very wrong
I'm just going to ignore the open platter
clear ferry
I have swapped PCBs on HDDs before, with great success, dead controller onboard, had an identical disk, swapped over, everything fine 😄 but... with a tweezer and a mini screwdriver ?
clear ferry
This one is a classic Wtf https://imgur.com/gallery/E4LUZ5u
clear ferry
😂 😂 😂
vast dove
@clear ferry my vacuum card 😛 https://img.sticky.wtf/g/tvgF4
clear ferry
@vast dove nnnngh want
young sigil
You going to share that? Please 🙏
clear ferry
Also, I'm starting to get to the bottom of mqtt across instances, the auto discover thing is rubbish it seems, every time I refresh my browser they vanish, but if I manually create the sensors they seem ok
vast dove
@young sigil sure, ill just clean it up a bit and i can share it
Much work to manually set up the zwave stuff. Think ill just do the hard work and set up the zwave stuff again on the esxi vm
clear ferry
@vast dove hmmm that went south for me, devices were never fully added and if they were they didn't work as expected, with the usb passthrough that is, might work better with a usb to Ethernet adapter
vast dove
I'm using USB passthrough . Have 2 zwave units that's been set up for testing on it for 3-4 weeks now. No issues
hushed basalt
I just set up a mqtt docker a minute ago
Haven't set it up yet
Configured I should say
clear ferry
@vast dove woot, aeotec stick? And what version of esxi?
hushed basalt
God damnit synology you suck
vast dove
Aeotec yeah, and ESXi 6.7
clear ferry
I'm stuck on 6.0u3 with my old server if I install 6.5 or newer the included drivers just cause psod, that might be the defining difference
vast dove
6.7.0 (Build 8169922) to be exact
clear ferry
GA .. you should update to u1, lots of nasty stuff in GA 😂
vast dove
It works 😛
clear ferry
The nice thing about HPE Gen10 servers and 6.7 is that updating actually doesn't require reboots, it just reloads the kernel, so nice wow 👌
hushed basalt
Okay so I just made a major rewrite to my docker compose
Let's hope I didn't break too much :D
clear ferry
@vast dove VMware vanilla images are supposed to work on my server, not vendor specific ones, I might upgrade to 6.7u1 and retry usb passthrough 🤷
clear ferry
As soon as the baby wakes up😤 😤 😤 😤 😤 😤 😤
viscid solar
thanks @hushed basalt thats the same solution i found yesterday.
clear ferry
@vast dove upgrading now 👏
hushed basalt
@viscid solar yeah never use curl, always use requests
It's just better
Yay my mqtt server works! Now to just set some authentication
hushed basalt
Well my homeassistant image was about 18 months old
Thats probably why some things weren't working
mighty summit
i've spotted a 2nd hand google home mini for sale @ 33€, seller lives just a few streets away.
HA-wise, should I get it ? Or should I avoid ?
mighty summit
best i can find is 45, in my area
vast dove
But still, if you should buy it or not depends on yourself. If you have a need for it and want it why not?
mighty summit
what do i want it for...to tinker.
is it any good with HA , i guess that's the question
vast dove
It works as a speaker, tts and device tracker. You can also use google assistant on it to control your home
hushed basalt
@mighty summit pros and cons
Google homes etc are very cheap for what they are
But you're paying for it with analytics data
Personally I worry about the future when Google and Amazon have telemetry of every piece of tech in our homes
pure vine
points out discord uses google cloud services
fair monolith
looks at the networking controller they need to move off of google's services
clever mortar
Let's face it, the choices are:
Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Russian Government, Chinese Government
😛
pure vine
is concidering moving provider, and the one of the providers offers a fritz! box with their fiber packages
clever mortar
I have one, it's better than the Thompson it replaced
That however is what's called damned by faint praise 😉
pure vine
Ive heard they are ment to be good, but im not sure if is better than the Linksys WRT3200ACM i currently have
clever mortar
In terms of a functional router, it's pretty good
The ability to tune the settings for the DSL is nice, so I can adjust for the crappy line
fair monolith
in my case, I need to move the controller to local and stop using google's free hosting
fair monolith
the hardware I want tho costs $200 as its going to also be an NVR box
clever mortar
Ah, Zen 😉
I have the older generation of FritzBox they sent out
My only real issue with it is that the device tracker component caused a memory leak in it 😛
pure vine
@clever mortar yeah, im thinking about convincing my father to move to them, mainly as Plusnet isnt offering fiber and from what i can tell Zen also have IPv6 avalible, but i cant tell
clever mortar
They do
I use it
They've had IPv6 for years now
Their support is also really good. Any time I've had to call them, they've gone above and beyond
Heck, one of their tech spent half an hour on the phone with me helping me find the cause of my intermittent service outages, with a stable line
(turned out to be a problem PC)
pure vine
also their pricing is quite competitive, £76.99 for 300mb down and 45 Mbps up(Average)
clever mortar
Yeah, they're reasonably priced
Also, I'm officially envious that you can get FTTP 😛
pure vine
Yeah, No provider seems to offer the gigabit that BT have installed, but im not supprised given the prices they have to pay for each connection
there is only one stumbling block i can forsee, my dad gets BT sport through plusnet
becuse aparently there is no way to get it without being on a provider who has it
clear ferry
@vast dove after migrating to 6.7 and upgrading the virtual hardware to 6.7 it appears the USB passthrough is a hella lot smoother
vast dove
Cool 🎉
clear ferry
and a lot better than the MQTT statestream crapolini 😄
light trout
"direct" access will always be better
clear ferry
indeed, but I couldn't for the life of me make heads or tails of why MQTT statestream did what it did, suddenly devices were there, then they were not
I'm hoping my MQTT greenhouse implementation will be smoother
odd mason
anyone using wireguard?
clever mortar
If you search, you'll see it's been discussed a few times 😉
odd mason
i have some questions tho :/
clever mortar
🤷
odd mason
@mighty summit you around?
mighty summit
@odd mason i am, for like 5 minutes
celest moon
Have there been any major advances in ZHA/zigbee support in hass, over the past year or so? I saw they added a nice control panel. I recall a lot of very hit or miss attempt to pair sensors, manufacturer specific silliness, and a lack of extended info like battery levels. Just wondering if it's worth revisiting before I buy some more z-wave stuff.
clear ferry
@celest moon I have used zha with Xiaomi, tradfri and hue with no problems in the past
odd mason
Hey @mighty summit was wondering if u were running wireguard in a VM or LXC container?
odd mason
Oh... Damn lol. I'm having some issues with an Ubuntu lxc container. Giving me problems when bringing the interface up
I'm guessing has to do with the Linux kernels
clear ferry
@mighty summit pff VMware esxi free is great for beggars 😂
mighty summit
@clear ferry hyper-v didn't cost me anything
proxmox is the future plan
@odd mason the VM is ubuntu also
clear ferry
I just have a real hate relationship with hyper-v, every time I have to help customers with it it feels like I've teleported 5 years into the past and nothing works 🤢
Thankfully it is not often as the ratio is 90/10 for VMware hyperv
mighty summit
mine is stable...what can i say
odd mason
@mighty summit did u have to install Linux headers? I'm running on Proxmox
When I used hyper-v it wasn't too bad
I liked the integration with powershell
mighty summit
@odd mason all i did was install a 18.04.1 LTS (the lightest possible from tasksel) and then https://github.com/l-n-s/wireguard-install
odd mason
So I think my problem is I'm running an Ubuntu container and not a full vm
So I need to install wireguard on the host first
I think I'll just set it up on a spare rpi
mighty summit
yes the host needs wg first
mighty summit
honestly, it runs fine in a poorly provisioned vm...512m & 1 cpu
never breaks a sweat
then, on the client side, you just open the app and point the camera at the QR generated by the server...done.
mighty summit
you can enter the details manually, but the Qr just works.
odd mason
I'll work through that this evening.
hearty depot
odd mason
@mighty summit did you need to install wg on the host even with the VM?
hushed basalt
@pure vine yeah but I just talk shit in discord :D
I mean I use gmail which I probably shouldn't
But it is another thing for Google to know everything in my home.
@odd mason i think wireguard is very experimental still
The risk is yours but they themselves say it's not ready yet
weak osprey
any changes that github user CyberDNS is here in discord?
thorny trench
I had to tell someone who would care even a little.... I finally got data from my Trane Thermostat into HA via a web service call and MQTT. (There is no API... so it was a beast.)
hushed basalt
@thorny trench good work!
Thermostats aren't really a thing in Australia
We don't really have central heating so it's usually always air conditioning, sometimes reverse cycle, with proprietary control panels for the heat pump
And if people have gas heating it's standalone gas heaters,
I wouldn't even know how to reverse engineer something like that
Usually our only chance is to mimick an IR remote but there's no two way communication with that
odd mason
@hushed basalt i understand...the speed is worth it i think
lots of people using it and even linus likes it
hushed basalt
It looks cool
Just remember there's a risk of undiscovered security vulnerabilities.
odd mason
for sure
right now my issue is that my domain is behind cloudflare and so i can't for some reason use my domain as the endpoint
i need to use the actual ip address of my home which sucks because it's dynamic. it doesn't change often so that's fine
maybe i'll wire up a sensor to update HA with it in case it changes and then i can just pull it from there if i ever have any issues conncting
tough igloo
Hey @hushed basalt I live in Australia (down south) a lot of people have central ducted gas heating and then often evap cooling for the summer. I use an ecobee but you’re right in that smart thermostats aren’t a thing here. I have a mate who is a hvac installer and I’m more knowledgeable than him 🤣
hushed basalt
Maybe it's a WA/Perth thing
I've never ever seen ducted gas heating
Personally I think you'd be mental to have gas over a heat pump :D
clear ferry
Heating in Australia sounds so wrong, kinda like air-conditioning on the South pole 😂
tough igloo
It gets quite cold here in Winter
Regularly under 0 at night
Cold enough for heating anyway!!
tough igloo
Yeah highs where I live in Summer 35-42. Winter 10-18 during the day. Celsius of course!
Starting to cool off now that Summer is almost over
clear ferry
@tough igloo 0c? Let me tell you something.... 🤣
We had -35 here a few winters ago, but last summer was +35 actually 😓
tough igloo
😁 Yeah -35 is something I could not handle!
clear ferry
@tough igloo that is inland cold though, I grew up on an island,if we got -12 there I kinda died, -35 inland doesn't bother me at all,
tough igloo
Here it's not too bad because we aren't quite high enough for snow but it has happened a few times. Waiting for public transport is probably to worst part
hushed basalt
@clear ferry it can get below 0 at night in some places. Most places inland as well
Inland in pretty much any country can get cooooollddd at night
Plus our houses are dogboxes so we need heating
clear ferry
@tough igloo my hometown had 4 metres in 1997 😁
mighty summit
hushed basalt
@clear ferry you'll find that an Australian house is less comfortable in winter than an Scandinavian house
A dogbox near a breezy window will be like 10 degrees inside
While I assume your houses are much warmer than that throughout
clear ferry
@hushed basalt all houses are insulated yes, 90% wooden houses
hushed basalt
I'd rather have a warm house and a very cold outdoor experience than a mild cold experience inside and out :D
It's quite common for an Aussie to wear wooly pyjamas, a blanket and a space heater by their feet
clear ferry
Yeah, I keep inside at 23 while outside is -15, just by using the heat pump, if it is below -15 I put wood in the fireplace, or when power is out
I am quite hot though, so I prefer 13 degrees in the bedroom, but the wife won't have it, so I sleep only in my underwear on top of the covers in 17 degrees 🤣
hushed basalt
Yeah you would hate the average aussie home
Apparently effective insulation and air sealing is considered "luxury"
Like $2000-$3000/square meter construction
clear ferry
I don't start wearing a jacket outside until it is -5 or less
clear ferry
@vast dove did you clean up your vacuum card? 😜
odd mason
@mighty summit so I didn't need to install wg on the host. An Ubuntu VM worked perfectly
mighty summit
i don't get it...@odd mason what did you mean by "installing wg on the host" ?
your vpn server needs wireguard kernel support
that is most likely included per default these days
mighty summit
but you still need to configure the VPN, which is what i mean to be "install wg on the host"
mighty summit
okokok, your hypervisor (Proxmox) doesn't need to know anything about wireguard.
your VM does.
mighty summit
wait untill you see the battery usage on the clients. amazing.
vast dove
WG?
clear ferry
@vast dove wireguard apparently
vast dove
aha
clear ferry
Anyone tried the Skystream boxes? The Skystream three looks very interesting compared to the Nvidia shield when looking at price
hushed basalt
It annoys me that Netflix doesn't support linux boxes officially
Limits options for htpc clients
pure vine
? It works in chrome
Note not chromium, there are ways to extract widevine from chrome into chromium
hushed basalt
Only 720p is supported
There's some hacks/extensions for 1080p
But that will always be a cat and mouse game
pure vine
Thats also mainly because, due to widevine, the decoding is CPU bound
hushed basalt
Stuff to do with DRM such and such
clear ferry
@hushed basalt I remember when Netflix only supported Windows and internet explorer 🤣
hushed basalt
Ew
Do you guys think this makes sense as an offsite backup strategy
Onsite
- Host system, with docker
- Docker container with sshd, ro access to the folders on the host system I want to back up, and ro access to the private keys for host authentication, fail2ban, key based login only with public key of offsite client
- Port forwarded to ssh server port of this container
Offsite
- Raspberry pi with usb hdd,
- Duplicati and pulling from server to offsite
hushed basalt
I'm not sure about it. There's no encryption at rest on the backup hdd
strange vapor
@hushed basalt I'm doing most of the deployment using Ansible with Ansible-Vault in play to keep the secrets. Haven't got everything under ansible control yet, but getting there.
Everything in git which is being backed up.
Also, never version of Kodi supports Netflix, and other DRM'd streaming sites, fairly nicely 😃 My Android "smart" TV is being relegated to just a dumb panel again.
orchid rose
I'm still running the older version to be able to use MadVR, but the support for DRM does look promising
hushed basalt
@strange vapor what do you think about having ansible secrets in repo
I subscribe to the philosophy of never storing anything sensitive in a repo folder. Including in encryptes and/or in a git ignore
strange vapor
@hushed basalt They're private repos anyway hosted on my own infrastructure, so I'm not too worried. If it was public on Github, I'd be a bit more wary.
Also remote backups using https://www.tarsnap.com/
hushed basalt
Yeah I push my stuff to private repo on github
So it's so so
For stuff on AWS I use aws secret mananger for secrets
strange vapor
Using "gitolite" on my own stuff. Nice and simple. Only real issue is the lack of a shiny web interface, but it's easy to setup and maintain.
hushed basalt
For ansible for local stuff I'm trying to figure out how to have vault in a folder relative from ~home
I use github for everything so I can pad out my github activity :D
strange vapor
At work I get to use Hashicorp Vault which is a thing of beauty, but for me it would be another service to run which doesn't give me much over ansible-vault.
hushed basalt
I'm guessing Aws secret mananger is similar to Hashicorp vault
Basically its a parameter store which returns a string if you have the right credentials. And I store a dict in it.
And you can use stage tags for different stages etc
Then I store a .env in my repo with non sensitive config info in it, also in gitignore
Generally just saying which region and stage, and the company subdomain. Nothing I would lose sleep over if it leaked
But I'm thinking for home use I should set up a ~/.protected_storage folder that I bidirectional sync with my home server to keep my secrets in sync.
strange vapor
The fact you're even worried about secrets puts you head and shoulders above most people 😉
hushed basalt
And I will sync with my CI when I figure thay out
I'm trying to learn security as a first thing not a figure out later thing
Probably way overkill for home but I'm trying to learn good practices for when I'm getting employed
Probably way overkill for home but I'm trying to learn good practices for when I'm getting employed
But I am currently using AWS lamdba at my current work with real client data from third party APIs so I do need to take that stuff very seriously as well
I need to learn how to set up and authenticate my own AWS api gateway as well to wrap all these functions too. The functions I am building won't actually receive or response with anything sensitive. But the lamdba functions behind it will have to deal with client data
But the api will just receive and response with order numbers and status codes so basically useless stuff to bad actors
And generally use the third party SaaS APIs to do the bulk of the work
My bosses son does our website
He uses the api key to get products from our booking system for the ecommerce
I'm fairly certain he doesn't use source control and just has the api keys in clear text on the server code
strange vapor
For a lot of the stuff I'm working on, we're using Hashicorp Vault to do Mutual TLS. When a new VM is bought up, it gets a short term Client Cert based on it's role, which has to be renewed ever few hours. That cert gives access to the APIs as well as providing Identity. Didn't take all that much to setup, but it is a thing of beauty when working.
Doesn't help with external APIs, but gets rid of a whole section of fun internally.
hushed basalt
Ah yes AWS secret manager is much more primitive than that
I think I'm going to go straight to learning serverless and static sites
I feel like I don't have enough bandwidth to learn VMs and kubernetes etc
proven spruce
you think static sites is easier?
hushed basalt
I think it's in demand
strange vapor
The whole Serverless thing is a a whole load of marketing BS. It's basically short term shared hosting with an API 😃
hushed basalt
Yeah I know it's not 'serverless'
clear ferry
It's good to know stuff that is in demand at least, which is why I know stuff that only retired or dead colleagues know 🤣
strange vapor
The better API part is important, but people have been doing shared hosting for years.
pure vine
@clear ferry ah yes, when Netflix used silverlight
hushed basalt
But I don't have to worry about underlying systems, scaling, security patches etc
All I have to worry about on the serveless side is my python module
Event, context, return
strange vapor
@hushed basalt That's an absolute and utter fallacy. Devs who don't understand the underlying systems are the bane of my life as they make assumptions, lots and lots of assumptions, which means getting out the hammer of reality to show them the error of their ways.
proven spruce
it is in demand, i'm just learning jekyll for the tasmota project... pretty cool stuff
clear ferry
@strange vapor I love all the middle management customers i have to go into meetings with, demanding cloud, but when they hear it's just servers outside their data center that they have no control over,the usually change their mind 😂
hushed basalt
Have you looked much into functions as a service @strange vapor
clear ferry
It's only Monday, but how many times has Azure AD been down so far this week? 🤔 🤔 😝
strange vapor
@hushed basalt Use Lambda regularly, and it's a great tool, but like any tool it has it's strengths and weaknesses. Funnily enough, there's stuff we're running in Lambda which we've pulled back to VMs so we can get better debugging if there's issues.
hushed basalt
@clear ferry probably less times than I've been vomitted and wee'd on this week
@strange vapor true. I definitely believe lamdba is a compliment and not a subsitute to vm and containers
strange vapor
@clear ferry The other really fun one is the people who's services are "pets" which require manual massaging to keep going. The panic when a notice is sent out that a VM will be destroyed is a joy to behold.
For my own team's services, if a VM is more than a week old, we'll kill it just because!
Took a while to get to the stage we're comfortable doing it, but it's fun now.
clear ferry
@strange vapor haha, especially when they were on vacation when the notice was sent, and the it department uses personal emails for notifications instead of a shared mailbox
Woops there goes the finance department production vm
https://www.skystreamx.com/products/skystream-three-android-tv-box thinking about ordering one of these, looks like very good value for money compared to the shield, like a fourth of the price
hushed basalt
@strange vapor i hate pets
clear ferry
The Roku ultra is interesting too
hushed basalt
I would hate to be one of those people who still hand builds every server
And runs everything in one VM that CAN NOT GO DOWN
strange vapor
@hushed basalt Way more common even today than you'd think :/
hushed basalt
The Phoenix Project is a fun book
I'm sure there's still plenty of companies run like first half of that book
I hate that our PBX is on prem and has to be
We are too far away from any reliable data centres for hosted
clear ferry
@hushed basalt I'm at 4-10 customers per week usually, and I'm frightened by at least half of them every week
Wait what, you have a single core switch for all uplinks to your 20 branch offices
🤣
hushed basalt
@clear ferry hehe the old XP 'server' sitting under the receptionists desk running key software with no backups
I can't remember if it was here or on reddit or something
clear ferry
I saw a nt3.5 server running critical public services last year... Go home with your xp 😤
hushed basalt
But one guy was the sole IT guy for a 'small' company with 100 branch offices
And they had him manually logging into each consumer router at each office
And changing the port forward rules to move some software at HQ from on prem to hosted
It was reddit
He was asking if he could whitelist domains on each router to stop the employees goofing off on the internet 🤦
People were telling him to just put RPIs with PiHole at every site
People were very offended when I pointed out that raspberry pi are learning tools for children and enthusiasts, not things you should host business services on.
proven spruce
HOW DARE YOU!
hushed basalt
Exhibit C ;)
I have four RPIs at home :D but I wouldn't run a business on them
They fail. That's just the nature of them.
Plus he would still have to point every router DNS to them :/
Plus a lot of devices ignore DHCP DNS addresses now anyways
Plus the office could just turn off the RPI anyways
strange vapor
There's at least one DC offering Pi hosting 😄
Would be really cool if they did stats similar to what Backblaze do for HDs
strange vapor
Possibly already mentioned here, but interesting: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/robotics-iot-books
odd mason
FYI, don't be a dumbass like me and forward the same ports to two different ip addresses in your network
last plaza
strange vapor
Poor man's load balancing or did the first match take precedence?
normal ferry
if I 'm going to purchase a new router for my house what would you suggest? wait for the new wifi standard that is around the corner and see the hardware choices , go now for an mu-mimo router or go for a tri-band ? the requirements are that I need very good simultaneous streaming speeds and the fact that I ahve about 35 iot devices
vast dove
low harness
What router lets that happen?
proven spruce
a shitty one
pure vine
conciders making a change to the zones that adds a attribute called occupancy that counts the ammount of people in a zone
normal ferry
@low harness what do you mean by "that happen" ?
low harness
That was in response to chags who apparently has a router that lets him forward the same port to two destinations.
normal ferry
oh oh my bad
low harness
No worries
wintry crow
100% off topic... Any engineering types in here? I need to calculate the torque required from a motor driving a worm to lift a weight. Altho I do plan to have up/down controlled by HA
strange vapor
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClsFdM0HzTdF1JYoraQ0aUw is a good source 😄
wintry crow
Yeah that doesn't help @unreal orbit lol. My plan is to use a high toruq low speed motor (or motors) to spin a threaded bar. The threaded bar would have a platform on it that raises/lowers depending on the direction the threaded bar spins
torque
Basically the big brother of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaJVWoKj2a4
Big brother as in.... 8 feet x 6 feet mezzanine floor strong enough to hold a bed and a me
unreal orbit
You want to do that with a threaded bar? That seems... like not the way to do it
wintry crow
Hahah I like the concept. Imagine 4 (or 6) bars... Should actually only take a reasonable amount of power to raise it 2 feet
I know I could use hydraulics or pneumatics or lots of other options but this does appeal to me
unreal orbit
That sounds like a nightmare. Why would you not use chain or belt drive?
wintry crow
Cos part of the translation from rotary movement of the bar to vertical movement of the platform is in itself a gear. M12 bar has a pitch of 1.75 so only 1.75mm vertical movement for a complete rotation
When you think of it that way it's quite a compact way to gear it
pure vine
doesnt seam very safe though
wintry crow
How so? It wouldn't be free-standing like in that vid, it'd be anchored in channels so the only possible movement is vertical
I love the low-tech approach
clever mortar
Screw lifts are used in some pretty big engineering situations
Lifting a bed and a person is pretty small change
wintry crow
Exactly
clever mortar
Hell, I've seen enough TV shows where they use a set of them to lift a house 😉
wintry crow
Just a wooden mezzanine will do lol
Or possibly aluminium framed mezz, finished in wood to give the same feel, for less weight
So from that video, I plan to flip it 180 so the bars are facing down. Completely hidden
pure vine
yes @clever mortar but i dont think they are the DIY store type of threaded rod
unreal orbit
Just because it can be done doesn't mean it's the best way for every situation, especially when considering a budget. Something like a scissor lift design would probably be better here
clever mortar
I see a forum thread coming on... Most cost effective way of building a lifting bed platform
wintry crow
Ah but I want it to be completely hidden. Scissors would be difficult to hide in a small space. Screws could be designed to spin within wooden beams
unreal orbit
My automation for lowering my bed into the floor is not working and I am now trapped beneath the floorboards, please send help
wintry crow
Hahah I do love a heated debate
Lmao or stuck up against the roof?
Basically high position is 7 feet up. Low position is 5 feet up. So 4 (or 6) 5 feet high beams, mebbe 4x4's. The rebar would be inside those beams
pure vine
so limit switches are needed
wintry crow
Oh the circuit is easy - pair of latching relays, with push to break switches at the top n bottom
I did mechanical engineering in college, but that was erm... Crap it was 30 years ago now
Found a page with the calcs... https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/screw-jack-d_1308.html
pure vine
So there have been some gas expolosions near me recently, has anyone made a gas sensor to warn them of rising gas levels
wintry crow
I could, but I don't know where you live. And that would be a bit stalkerish tbh
chilly apex
Hi everyone! I'm taking the plunge and decided to join this discord from one of Dr Zzs videos. Wish me luck
wintry crow
Brace yourself, it's a 1-way journey!
hushed basalt
Where we're going, we don't need wife acceptance factor
@pure vine bosch make gas sensor modules. I think it's bme680 or something along those lines
I have one but I haven't set it up yet
But for life saving stuff i wouldn't dick around I would just go and buy a gas detector from the hardware store for $30 right now
zealous aurora
Does anyone have any thoughts on Hue bulbs vs ESP8266 controlled bulbs with the AIlight firmware?
green inlet
I have a ruleset where I can see the packets and bytes increasing but the default action is drop and it is not dropping the traffic. Trying to block dhcp by MAC address. Anyone have a clue?
Actually, action is reject
hushed basalt
@pure vine you're much much more likely to die of carbon monoxide poisoning than gas explosions
strange vapor
@hushed basalt Related to conversation yesterday, this just came up on my Twitter feed: https://github.com/awslabs/git-secrets
clear ferry
@pure vine easily avoided by doing a strict 802.1x authentication on top of the password, and not to mention the most important thing most people forget on their home network, automatic logging and notification on unsuccessful authentications 🤔
normal ferry
[..]by doing a strict 802.1x authentication on top of the password[...] @clear ferry how does one do that?
strange vapor
I've living in front of a school, and have Unifi Wifi system. Fun watching the logs to see all the connection attempts.
Often tempted to advertise a separate ESSID entitled "Garda Surveillance Van" 😃
unreal orbit
I've started going down the rabbit hole of SSML Alexa voice responses. I'm on a path now. I don't expect I shall return as the same person.
clear ferry
@normal ferry if your access points support it you implement it there, if not you could simulate it by having a captive portal that does white listed Mac addresses, or similar, 802.1x would be the optimal as you could authenticate active clients with certificates and less active clients with Mac addresses and limitations (i.e per port addresses with long timeouts on wired connections)
@strange vapor Irishman you say? But you should make a honey pot instead 😂
@unreal orbit is there something similar with Google home?
strange vapor
@clear ferry It's a primary school, so I'll be good!
unreal orbit
@clear ferry looks like it https://developers.google.com/actions/reference/ssml
clear ferry
@strange vapor teacher credit card information 😂
strange vapor
Sure all the teachers are poor! Those cards will be maxxed out!
clear ferry
@strange vapor I worked administering 55, primary and secondary schools, the things those teachers would do would never suprise me
@unreal orbit nice, I need to bookmark and put that in my calendar too 👌
unreal orbit
I just switched all my intent handling to NR. It's so much better
It's really only better because I don't have to restart HA every time I add an intent
strange vapor
@clear ferry Back in the day I was involved in putting in structured cabling and associated devices in schools when Heanet were pushing out it's network., so I've seen things!
clear ferry
@unreal orbit I need to get my manager to send me to training for a few weeks so I can spend evenings fixing my ha and learning node red🤣
@strange vapor geee long time since I heard the name heanet, I lived in Dublin for a year in 2007, what I remember most about the technology in Ireland was that the online banking felt like Norways online banking in 1997 and that even though I lived in Dublin 6 the best we could get was WiFi that dropped out if there was a hint of rain in the air (and it really only tæ rains in Ireland 340 days a year )
strange vapor
Internet situation has improved thankfully. I'm living 30 miles out, and get very good interwebs these days. Could upgrade to GigE, but meh.
clear ferry
@strange vapor how is the pricing though? I think we paid for 3mbit/256kb as much as I paid for 100mbit/100mbit in Norway at the time
strange vapor
So, I'm getting 100/40 for around the 40 a month mark with 1:1 contention ratio, but that's "mate's rates" 😄
clear ferry
It's getting better then, I think we paid 80 for that wireless one, these days I pay 50 for 250/250, gigabit is 110 I think
strange vapor
Could get GigE for around the 100 a month mark as well, but don't need it.
fair monolith
... channel 11 is TRASHED in my neighborhood. I was trying to figure out why my smart outlets were not working
clear ferry
Another reason WiFi is horrible, thank Dog I live in a rural area
Woop, my Skystream Three is on its way, I do prefer buying outside the herd, and usually I'm very happy with getting away with less than half the price,let's see if it happens this time too
fair monolith
yah, I had to move to channel 1 for my IoT devices...
and fix unifi mesh issues, since I just trashed that crappy wifi extender. home network speeds went up by 50%
hushed basalt
@fair monolith force as much as you can onto a 5ghz only ssid
Makes night and day difference for me
fair monolith
Already do this @hushed basalt but it’s not 5G only but forces higher performance clients to 5G only
hushed basalt
I found my unifi AP wasn't properly putting devices on 5ghz
fair monolith
Only 2g devices are my air purifier
hushed basalt
I had to make two seperate ssids otherwise they would all end up on 2.4Ghz
fair monolith
Because 2g only hardware -.-
There is a new update to force high performance devices to 5G
fair monolith
Gah, I need to fix HomeKit issues with mesh networking
hushed basalt
Choice to go 2.4ghz vs 5ghz is made by the clients not the AP
And 2.4ghz is just too strong compared to 5ghz
fair monolith
So far, all of my clients have been picking the 5Ghz with this option
hushed basalt
None of mine did :(
I just changed my normal ssid to 5ghz only, and made a new one for 2.4Ghz and just changed over what didn't work. Which is very little
It does mean that most of my devices won't have the far longer range of the 2.4ghz
But that spectrum is uselessly polluted anyways
fair monolith
@hushed basalt its a new setting added recently
hushed basalt
When you break the case for the router and decide you don't need it anyways
Worst case the heat melts the glue in the velcro, the AP crashes to the floor and breaks and work is forced to buy a real AP
serene delta
The good and the bad of using CI to build your ESPHome firmware. The good, you push your configs and it builds firmware and OTA to all devices. The bad you forget to create a real secrets file and all your devices are trying to connect to "fake_wifi" point from secrets.dist and now nothing "works"
hushed basalt
With great power comes great responsibility
@serene delta maybe look at using variables instead of fake_wifi etc
Like I usually never put fake_secret in any of my code even from conception.
Just ${variable_01} etc
serene delta
yeah, I have a secrets.yaml.dist which gets copied to secrets.yaml for the config portion of the tests, and now have a GitLab secret variable with the actual config in it which gets written out as one of the first steps
Not sure if I'm too lazy, or trying to be too clever 😛
fair monolith
@mild cloak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuoSXVqjyfc
im moving to node red.... this is sooooo much easer
mild cloak
very nice, looks like it'll make my more complex presence detection automations a lot easier to do. definitely gonna give that a go.
hushed basalt
Yeah I should try it too
I can write python but yaml based scripting feels clunky
Yaml is better at declarations not logic imo
strange vapor
Have wasted so much time at work debugging Node and NPM issues that anything with Node in the name gives me a cold sweat 😉
strange vapor
@pure vine Not just banks who're unhappy with that feature, lots of enterprises are, as are people like Palo Alto who sell the devices to do this.
pure vine
Good, broken encryption is bad for everyone
strange vapor
Being fair, I can understand where they're coming from in that they've invested all this money on the monitoring solution. However, they spent a lot of time on the WRONG solution, and now it's coming back to haunt them. There's a bad tendency in security teams to go for a single magic bullet to solve a problem at a choke point rather than fixing the problem at source :/
clever mortar
Or cough plan for defence in depth
But that's hard/expensive/time consuming/some other excuse
strange vapor
It is hard and expensive! But if you actually give a shit and the data is worth money, then it has to be done.
clear ferry
goodness I prefer darksites
I don't have to bring any hardware and I cannot share any logs
trains the brain 😄
and no security holes
clever mortar
It's neither hard nor expensive if you plan it in up front
Nobody plans it in up front...
strange vapor
@clever mortar And there's crux of the matter 😄
There's also the massive fallacy where the "dev" environment is often treated as less secure than the production environment as there's no customer data there. Great fun if you're red teaming.. Leave some obvious as hell shit hammering production and lighting up the SOC, while you add fun code in the dev environment and wait for it to get deployed in prod 😃
clever mortar
I have been involved in more than a few how do we avoid this in future discussions where the way in was some other method than attacking the secured part
Like, you know, just tailgating staff...
pure vine
havent there been cases when the dev enviroment has contained production data, becuse lazyness
clear ferry
I am still amazed at how many systems I get into contact with that have default passwords when work on them... I have started generating 32 character passwords for devices when doing new implementations, forcing the customers to change the password because they cannot be bothered with my 32 char pass 😄
@pure vine or as some customers say "half production dev..."
strange vapor
@pure vine Wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Interesting Podcast I've come across on the topic: https://www.realworlddevops.com/
unreal orbit
@fair monolith lol that didn't take much convincing
clear ferry
meh, trying to convince management that on duty pay should be concidered base pay when I've had on duty for 10 years and they take on duty away 😄
clever mortar
Been in a similar position, so left - as did everybody worth keeping
clear ferry
yeah, I'm concidering it, because losing £14000 per year is noticable...
and I have standing offers
clever mortar
Ouch, yeah
orchid rose
So I ended up ordering a cheap chinese android box (Beelink MINI MXIII II) for Kodi instead of a NUC or something. We'll see if it's fast enough or not, but for 31€ I'm sure it's good enough for one use or another
clear ferry
@orchid rose I'm waiting for my Skystream Three, the price was pretty unbeatable for the specs, so I'll tell you if that is good when I get it 😄
orchid rose
I saw there was some confusion with some of the newer Amlogic devices like s912 etc and as I only need fullhd support I went with the older option
I won't be using Android on it, or I'll try CoreElec first at least
orchid rose
my phone is Android 6 👀
clear ferry
I can't even remember what Android 6 looked like 🤔
thought it was older actually, only 3 years old
or 3.5
orchid rose
yeah it's mostly pretty much exactly the same
fair monolith
@unreal orbit well ya. the video described me perfectly lol
unreal orbit
That's where I learned the basics as well
orchid rose
is there any point getting cat6 or 7 cable for 1Gbps lan instead of 5e?
proven spruce
if you're getting it its better to go cat6 if you're not price sensitive
future proofing
orchid rose
fair, but the amazon basic cat6 is black and I'd like to get a white one
and twice the price, but it's not a massive issue
fair monolith
go cat 6 instead of 5e
I think 5e is techinaly 800 Mbps
yep, 5e was designed for 100 Mbps and can go in theory up to 1 Gbps but in real world use you are going to see 800 Mbps
cat 7 is way too expensive and is a PAIN IN THE ASS to terminate
orchid rose
actually I need to rethink my whole setup now
proven spruce
hah, thats how it usually goes
orchid rose
I was thinking of moving my router to the closet, but now that I think of it, that would require two cables, one for the router and one back to my PC...
fair monolith
cat 6 can hit 10 Gbps in theory but expect 8 ish
orchid rose
simple switch won't help as the modem that sits next to the PC is in bridged mode...
fair monolith
@orchid rose a managed switch might work tho
orchid rose
how much are those?
fair monolith
depends, the price varies
orchid rose
how would it work then?
orchid rose
right okay
fair monolith
vlan 10 for modem, vlan 10 for router
your router would need to support vlans tho 😒
then you can vlan back to the pc all on one cable
orchid rose
yeah and it just makes the whole system a bit more complex than I really need
the only reason I'm thinking of moving the wifi router to the closet is to connect an external drive to it and I'm worried about the noise it's going to make
fair monolith
yah, just do not get netgear managed switches. their UI is pure ass.
orchid rose
my router is netgear so believe me, I know 😄
fair monolith
I got 2 business class netgear switches for $25 off of some poor sap with his wife telling him to get red of his stuff. The UI is soo horrid, I rather do everything via CLI
lavish smelt
Anyone tried the Kasa switches?
orchid rose
the thing (netgear) is very buggy as well for me so even though the speeds have been very good, it's not something I'd recommend...
can I run a 8m USB3 cable for the hard drive? 😛
fair monolith
Anyone with UniFI network issues, flatten your lan and disable the MDNS reflector service. It appears to be broken at this time.
odd mason
@fair monolith what do you mean by flatten your lan?
fair monolith
remove vlans with IoT devices and put it back on one big broadcast domain
aka use one lan instead of several since MDNS reflector is broken @odd mason
clear ferry
Zzzzzzzzzzz mdns 😜
fair monolith
People like me like to have their printers on their own vlan, IoT devices on another
Unifi needs to fix this as mesh networking is really broken
odd mason
Is it broken because you're referencing their hostnames instead of ip addresses?
Or is it broken completely?
@fair monolith
fair monolith
broken completely
odd mason
Are you saying vlans don't work at all?
odd mason
Oh ok
fair monolith
issue is you need a mdns proxy atm
clear ferry
Glad I've stayed away from the unifi stuff, whenever someone mentions it it's broken
fair monolith
and even then the proxy will not work all the time with mesh access points
@clear ferry it all works wired
odd mason
Hmmm I don't seem to have any issues
fair monolith
their mesh stuff is in... beta
odd mason
I've got 2 mesh pros deployed
fair monolith
wired or wireless?
clear ferry
My whole network works both wired and wireless the whole time 🤷
fair monolith
I have the same setup but one is an AC LR
my homekit outlets have to connect to the AC LR directly or the apple TV on the mesh will not see it
odd mason
That's odd
fair monolith
yah, something is really broken with multicasts
odd mason
And you have your network rules and trunks configured correctly?
fair monolith
yep, this is on one flattened lan by the way
fair monolith
I removed the possible issues of vlans causing problems
yep
its an issue directly with how they mesh
odd mason
Can you try to replicate it by putting them on the mesh and try pinging them
fair monolith
home assistant can see them because its wired
its a really odd issue where it cant bounce back through the mesh
odd mason
Very odd
fair monolith
Thus I sent a support request as its just broken
odd mason
I haven't heard too many people complain about it. It's been working fine for me
fair monolith
@odd mason ya well, most people have their networks all hard wired
aka each AP has a lan wire
then it works perfectly
odd mason
Mine isn't though
fair monolith
I think it has to do with my apple TV on the mesh point
odd mason
I've got one wired and the 2nd connects to that wirelessly
fair monolith
It probably is dependent on the homekit hub locations
odd mason
I would try to replicate it with another wireless device not the apple TV
If you can then you'll know where the issue is
fair monolith
it happens with my phone as well
homekit uses the apple tv as a hub but will work without it localy with ios devices
fair monolith
the hub is only required for automations and remote access
indeed., thus why I assume that something is broken in their mesh tech
it was even stranger that things started to semi work when I disabled the MDNS reflector
thus I assume that there are 2 broken components in my network that has forced me to use the current setup
rapid musk
Does anyone know how to find a source url from a webcam thats always broadcasting online?
fair monolith
wireshark?
rapid musk
Theres a way to do it using the developer tools of your browser. Inspect the source of the page and grab the feed url. Just can't remember how I did it lol
gaunt trench
anybody used the google home component and work out how to leverage all of those components for proper presence detection? Surely if they're linked with zones there's some easy way to automatically determine where a specific device is?
fathom sparrow
alright, who here is a linux guru?
fair monolith
linux is soo wide and vast....
peak cloud
He's trying to edit grub.cfg, if that helps.
fair monolith
the joke is to just ask the dam question
may or may not be able to help, some one else might
hazy hatch
Hi I’m new here
Just got my raspberry pi and ir blaster to start simple home automation
Which section should I go to for coding help?
storm summit
yaml?
hazy hatch
Yes, yaml
trail crag
Yaml!
peak cloud
YAML!!!
storm summit
anyone know if there is an aftership like app for USA?
The app store says aftership is not available in my country.
peak cloud
@storm summit If AfterShip is what I think it is, then yes, but I can't think of what it is called off of the top of my head. Give me a moment.
SLICE!
All I had to do was unlock my iPhone and it came to me. Lol.
storm summit
;
😉
ok. I'll download it. it looks like I can use aftership, just not on my phone 😐
flat lintel
🚨
🚨
🚨
@storm summit @peak cloud they harvest your emails to gain insights on what products are doing well
just fyi
storm summit
I had it installed once before. Weren't they the guys that used to track amazon prices to get you money back?
and then amazon changed their rules or something because of slice?
flat lintel
i dont know, maybe
peak cloud
@flat lintel Interesting -- that's very good to know. I haven't used it in ages, but I remember it being pretty solid.
flat lintel
well, even if you havent used it in ages, they still have access to your gmail
and yeah, i aint knocking the service, i know its good
just not that many people are aware of how they make money
peak cloud
runs to make sure they no longer have axx.
storm summit
maybe i can get aftership working and track my stuff.
though I don't know how to get my tracking info into aftership automatically
flat lintel
@storm summit I just use Deliveries for iOS
has a nice Mac app too
it supports like everything, and whenever I get a ship notification I can send tracking info directly into Deliveries via a share action
storm summit
I was looking at this. https://github.com/home-assistant/home-assistant/pull/18034
hmmm
peak cloud
Boooooooooooooooo!!!! DELETE!!!
storm summit
@flat lintel do you have to manually put in tracking #s to Deliveries?
flat lintel
kinda? it has a share action, so you can just either select text -> share which is a button next to copy/paste or select the URL
peak cloud
"That was easy."
flat lintel
you can also just get it on your clipboard and the moment you open the app, its added
storm summit
Looks pretty cool but I rarely use my mac !
peak cloud
Looking at that GIF makes me realize a mousing pattern I have: I "swoop" when I aim to click a target.
storm summit
with Deliveries, it seems like a lot of work to get the tracking info into the app if you're only using iOS.
fair monolith
well shit @unreal orbit this was sooo much easer to do than dealing with yaml, https://arxius.io/i/61ffd708
Ha needs 2 freaking automations to do this
flat lintel
@storm summit promise, it's really quite simple
takes me maybe 5 seconds when i get a email
storm summit
copy paste?
flat lintel
copy the tracking number text or link, hit share, hit add in deliveries, done
fair monolith
I love deliveries
storm summit
shit. sounds like too much work for my lazy ass
hrmz. I don't think I care about shipping info enough to go through the effort.
fair monolith
@storm summit copy from email, switch to app, app sees you have a tracking url, asks to add, tap yes, done
peak cloud
@storm summit Wow, you are lazy.
storm summit
I'm screwed. I have to give Slice access to my email 😃
flat lintel
@fair monolith youre doing it wrong if you switch to app!
check it
@storm summit
peak cloud
Let's break this down...how long does it actually take (including the time to locate the tracking number)?
storm summit
hahah. a video?!?!
peak cloud
Hahahah I was about to install it and do the same exact thing @flat lintel
flat lintel
it was 10 seconds and i was slow
storm summit
okay. now you did it so fast I can't even follow. lol.
fair monolith
@flat lintel my share sheet is a mess, there is just too much
storm summit
let me watch it agian 😃
peak cloud
8 seconds. 8 seconds is all it takes. If you can't do that @storm summit then you are the laziest person I've ever communicated with!
flat lintel
yeah like actually
fair monolith
he needs an home assistant automation that goes through his emails and find packages to track
peak cloud
And if someone sends you a tracking number via iMessage...DONE. Still just 8 seconds...well, 8 seconds after you figure out how to copy just the tracking number part of the message.
@fair monolith Not a very difficult thing to do, actually.
fair monolith
not with node red apparently
peak cloud
@fair monolith Also, you can sort the share sheet to your liking 😛 For example, I have an EXIF viewer on share-speed-dial for when I want to look at the EXIF data of an image.
flat lintel
yeah
sort that shit
its easy!
1P, copy and deliveries at the front
and opener
fuck i love opener
if you are on iOS and don't own Opener, you are doing iOS wrong
flat lintel
i only started using it really in last 6 months after owning for like 2 years
life changing
peak cloud
Opener? Guess I need to just go hang myself right now.
Wtf is opener? Never even heard of it.
fair monolith
@flat lintel how do you use it?
storm summit
I think we need a list of all of Robbie's apps
flat lintel
here's what opener does
you clicked a reddit link or a facebook link
it opened in safari
you dont want safari
you want native app!
fair monolith
@storm summit you need a list of mine as well, I have a crapload
flat lintel
you share to opener and it has a list of all apps that can open that kind of link
both installed and not
then, it just opens it!
and it remembers your preferences too
so anytime it sees a reddit link, it opens in apollo
storm summit
ohhhh
fair monolith
so instead of tapping, I have to hold and open the share sheet?
or tap share
too much work
peak cloud
Now, why the fuck would you use apollo for a reddit link when the reddit app for iOS is so amazing?
flat lintel
yeah but the alternative for like a reddit link is opening the app, searching for subreddit, finding the post, etc etc
flat lintel
@peak cloud i dont even wish to dignify that with a response
apollo is so much better, in inumerable ways
peak cloud
I don't believe you. Prove it.
flat lintel
firstly
look at all the shit that opener works with
youtube links!
omg it saves me on youtube links all the time
peak cloud
So you don't use the actual YouTube iOS app?
flat lintel
no i do
but sometimes link still open in safari
Opener allows you to open links from the web in apps instead! Simply copy a link and launch Opener to view opening options.
fair monolith
I dont, because I block their ads
flat lintel
its that simple
peak cloud
regrettably goes and installs Opener and will let you know how he feels about it in two weeks.
!remindme 2 weeks
(DAMMIT, THIS ISN'T REDDIT!)
flat lintel
@fair monolith i just pay for YT Premium for the entire family
fair monolith
too poor for that.... hassio is running off a 2008 macbook ubuntu server
peak cloud
Oooooo, that's a good feature for the almighty HassBot. 😂
storm summit
@peak cloud plot twist. He wrote all these apps he's recommending and is getting rich off our $2.
flat lintel
if only
fair monolith
this is godly
flat lintel
devonthink is awesome
peak cloud
@storm summit I was about to say that! I just noticed his name below the "$1.99" that it cost to get Opener!!
storm summit
😉
flat lintel
@peak cloud biggest reason apollo is better: no ads
gif scrubbing is godly
clean UI that feels like iOS
fair monolith
I love gif scrubbing
peak cloud
I don't think I've ever seen an ad in the reddit app.
fair monolith
Another app you must have is pythonista
fair monolith
its x86 alpine linux
storm summit
ish beta?
fair monolith
I use blink instead of prompt, mosh is soooooo good
flat lintel
fair monolith
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/textastic-code-editor-7/id1049254261?mt=8 this is a must have
peak cloud
Wait, I have to open Opener? This is such a scam! It should just open itself!
fair monolith
if you don't have Textastic then I feel sorry for you
flat lintel
more good apps
peak cloud
Termius is way better than blink or prompt!
fair monolith
I used to use drafts before it became a subscription
flat lintel
$20/year worth every penny
peak cloud
I used to use Pzizz before it became a subscription. And I even paid $5 for it...FIVE TIMES!
fair monolith
get working copy for GIT
flat lintel
also, Drafts is about to have a Mac app for subscribers
storm summit
what about bitwarden?
flat lintel
1Password > *
fair monolith
1password trumps all
peak cloud
@flat lintel I am about to ban you for 24h. You're an idiot. 😛
flat lintel
for what
peak cloud
#KeePass4Life
flat lintel
wrong
so wrong
on so many levels
so wrong i feel sorry for you
thats rare for me
1P wins on design alone
fair monolith
you have no idea on what you are missing, its soo sad
storm summit
Bitwarden is self hosted. It trumps 1password.
peak cloud
Please, enlighten me.
flat lintel
1P wins on design alone
peak cloud
Wrong. Design means nothing when I am familiar with something already. 😉
storm summit
Bitwarden wins just because my data isn't shared. :p
peak cloud
Wait, let me guess...Opener automatically opens empty password fields into 1P to generate/save a new (edit:) secure password?
flat lintel
lol it does not
storm summit
lol
flat lintel
that i know of at least
peak cloud
#ByeFelicia
peak cloud
has left the building.
storm summit
opener takes your bitcoin hashes from your clipboard and sends them to russia
flat lintel
yeah i mandated it for my entire company of 30
like 18 of those people are now using the free included family subscription
peak cloud
I was about to ask, how does it do with companies?
I have everyone on KeePass right now, and it's working well.
peak cloud
That's way too much $$ for me. Right now I KeePass is paying me $4/user/mo.
flat lintel
oh other good apps: Jayson https://www.macstories.net/reviews/inspecting-json-files-on-ios-with-jayson/
peak cloud
HOLE. E. SHIT. Apollo has 4.8 stars out of 66.6K ratings. That's insane...must be the devil's work at play!
flat lintel
everything by David Smith: https://david-smith.org/apps/
fair monolith
hey look, its the brand new app I downloaded but have not opened it yet
storm summit
thats cuz robbie wrote it. his skills are unmatched.
flat lintel
peak cloud
@storm summit Don't forget that he almost got a 24h ban for being an idiot. 😂 (joking, obviously)
fair monolith
omnifocus and friends are also a must
flat lintel
daily dictionary, especially for the word of the day apple watch complication
yes OF is bae
1Blocker X is best content blocker for iOS
peak cloud
Ooooo, I do love my iWatch very much (and yes, I just called it an iWatch...for the first time in my life, just to piss you off)
flat lintel
OMG
Carrot Weather
all carrot apps
but weather especially
install it meatbags
hit the ocular sensor
fair monolith
I like dark sky better
storm summit
install it meatbags?? rofl.
peak cloud
@flat lintel Let me guess, you have a RetroPie setup in your house too?
fair monolith
the new redesign is soo much nicer
flat lintel
@peak cloud no
fair monolith
Scriptable by Simon B. Støvring https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/scriptable/id1405459188?mt=8
also a must have
flat lintel
Better Day for better date watch complications https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/better-day-a-complication/id1052023515?mt=8
and thats all i got rn
peak cloud
I'm an AccuWeather guy. Don't ask me why. I cannot tell you why. For it is nigh.
peak cloud
@flat lintel What cult do you operate?
fair monolith
ios is love, ios is life
peak cloud
Who is the cult of iOS mother? What about the cult of iOS father?
flat lintel
peak cloud
ios is love, ios is life
flat lintel
carrot weather is worth literally every penny of the $10/year it costs
peak cloud
WAIT! Opener no haz deh Waze?! Oh wait....there it is.
fair monolith
@flat lintel WRONG
fair monolith
soon... said 1 year ago
I hate to say it but apple notes is the best note taking app till bear finally adds tables and a few other things
peak cloud
The reminds me of this one thing, called BearStone HA. Everyone knows BearStone HA! Especially @trim cliff
peak cloud
has to recap because that was a lot to take in.
