#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 342

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 3:57 PM

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love the quality though - very crisp

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at night, when people are around, do you see it overexposed?

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 3:59 PM

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not that i've see. while i was putting it up my bro in law was watching the feed and he said you can make out the face perfectly

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 3:59 PM

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cool

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 3:59 PM

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it has a varifocal lens so i'm hoping that helps with all of that

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:05 PM

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inter-changeable lens?

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:13 PM

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@last plaza no. take a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkwNzL93y4c

YouTube

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Dahua IPC-HDW5231R-Z Review - varifocal lens zoom out and in

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last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:15 PM

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@odd mason that's awesome!

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Its got PTZ features?

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:22 PM

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nah

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@last plaza

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just varifocal lense

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:23 PM

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that zoon feature is cool! @odd mason not sure how I can use it in automations though

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:23 PM

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i don't think you can tbh

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i thinks it's more about getting the perfect focus or when there is some sort of issue you can zoom in and see what's going on

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:27 PM

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I see!

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so far I am really impressed with HikVision cameras - they are left in the cold and hot weather for 3 years now - we have had -30 degrees to 110 degrees weather, and they held up great

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:29 PM

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nice

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how many do you have @last plaza

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i'm trying to get good coverage around my house but without making my house look like a prison lol

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:30 PM

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@odd mason I got 4 cameras 2 in the front, 2 in the backyard from different angles

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:31 PM

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yea that's what i bought too. 4 cams. i'm going to put another cam in the back hard at the opposite side so i've got a camera on the two corners pointing in

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:31 PM

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I'll tell you what, the cameras are the best thing I did in my house - our neighborhood is pretty safe and good, but you still need the footage once in a while

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:31 PM

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and maybe to something similar in the front yard

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yea same here that's why i'm trying to avoid making it look like it's not a safe place with all the cams

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:32 PM

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like the other day, UPS guys have delivered a package on my neighbor's backyard instead of frontyard during Christmas time - they were on vacation, and he asked me to check the package, and I didn't see anything in his front yard

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:32 PM

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not to mention if i'm the only person with cams thieves will think i have shit to protect

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:32 PM

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then I opened up my cameras as he told me the date and time the package was delivered, and found that guy walking to his backyard

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:32 PM

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you talk to your neighbors?

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LOL

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:32 PM

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there are so many situations you would be using it for... you'd be surprised

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:33 PM

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i think i've said like 3 sentences to my neighbors in 2 years i've lived here

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:33 PM

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I now have a constant live feed on a monitor hooked up with Chromecast, and woks fantastic!

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I live in a cul-de-sac and we all get together all the time - everyone knows everyone

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:34 PM

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i tried casting to chromecast last night via VLC on my iphone and it didn't work :/

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:34 PM

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are you using rtsp or HLS? CCs only support HLS

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:34 PM

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like it loaded the url on the chromecast but no video, just blank screen

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rtsp

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how many 1080p streams do you get from ur cam?

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Chromecast doesn't support RTSP

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I have 4 streams going on currently - works amazing!

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:38 PM

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4 streams 1080p?

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hmm

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my cam gives me 1 stream 1080 and a 2nd stream 720

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is that because of your NVR or coming straight from the cam?

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:39 PM

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they are pretty good resolution - on my monitor, I think they are 1080p

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possibly - less than 1080

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:39 PM

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would be nice if i could get a HD stream into my NVR and have that pipe it out to multiple destinations also at 1080

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:39 PM

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when you ware watching it on monitor, there is nothing I can complain

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:40 PM

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yea same here it's definitely good enough

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:42 PM

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best part is my HA can automatically switch the live stream based on motion - if there a motion detected in the backyard, cameras turn to backyard, after 15 seconds or so, they default back to front yard

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:49 PM

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@last plaza is your chromecast always running a camera stream?

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:52 PM

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yes - I've dedicated one to it

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:53 PM

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so if you're watching something on TV, and there's motion in one of your cams, the TV automatically switches to the chromecast and displays the stream?

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 4:58 PM

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that's why I have a monitor - I no longer hooked my CC to TV

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 4:59 PM

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ah ok

brisk furnace Feb 4, 2019, 6:15 PM

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I see Smartthings support is coming in the next version of HA, curious to get others opinions who are using the smartthings-mqtt-bridge whether they're going to switch over?

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I know both are cloud-based solutions but I'm holding out hope that smartthings will eventually give local support for custom device handlers etc

gusty umbra Feb 4, 2019, 11:10 PM

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Hi, I'm currently rooting my Xiaomi Vacuum, and ran into something I don't know how to solve. I have to add some values to /etc/rc.local - However I am logged in via SSH, and the vacuum is blocked off from the internet, so can't just install nano, and don't even know if that is viable to do on such a device. Any suggestions?

unreal orbit Feb 4, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Why are you rooting it?

gusty umbra Feb 4, 2019, 11:13 PM

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to make sure it is not on the Xiaomi cloud

unreal orbit Feb 4, 2019, 11:15 PM

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You can't use vi?

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And if it's blocked from the internet how would it access the cloud 🤔

gusty umbra Feb 4, 2019, 11:16 PM

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never used vi before, but it showed up

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well I only just blocked it from the internet after rooting it basically. Now I just need to make it permanent

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By adding to rc.local

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vi seems different, got no idea how it works 😄

unreal orbit Feb 4, 2019, 11:17 PM

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It's the base unix text editor

gusty umbra Feb 4, 2019, 11:18 PM

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so, I have to add 3 lines before exit0

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do I just arrow down there and start tapping in? it seems to act weirdly

unreal orbit Feb 4, 2019, 11:18 PM

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It's fucking dumb. You gotta look up how to use it, I only use it when I can't use nano and I look up the commands every time

gusty umbra Feb 4, 2019, 11:18 PM

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alright

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thanks anyway though

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wow, that was fucking stupid

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worst program ever

unreal orbit Feb 4, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Told you

gusty umbra Feb 4, 2019, 11:27 PM

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press "i" to write.. alright great

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and goddamn :wq to write and quit

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jesus..

unreal orbit Feb 4, 2019, 11:28 PM

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I only ever use it for basic unix systems. Otherwise it's nano all the way

last plaza Feb 5, 2019, 12:12 AM

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vi or vim is the best editor hands down - it is for advanced users. nano is light weight for basic editing. It is like comparing notepad with word - uses are different

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there are so many vi cheat sheets available online!

midnight adder Feb 5, 2019, 1:51 AM

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So... I may or may not have fried my USB/TTL adapter. Recommendations on a new one?

green inlet Feb 5, 2019, 2:38 AM

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What is TTL?

dry cairn Feb 5, 2019, 3:02 AM

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@last plaza vi is for masochistic suicidal nerds 🤣

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if you got a mental issue it will bring it out 😂

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its like manually configuring bind

odd mason Feb 5, 2019, 4:39 AM

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samba + visual studio code FTW

wet pilot Feb 5, 2019, 4:41 AM

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Or anything + git

tropic hedge Feb 5, 2019, 4:49 AM

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so I got a bit of an issue, my mom passed a couple of weeks ago and I have a crappy, histrionic aunt that I'm afraid will raid my mom's house and steal stuff (I already gave her almost everything in the house). My good aunt and uncle are staying in the house until Thursday morning. After they leave it will be empty for a couple of weeks. What's some good stuff I can grab off of amazon so I'll know immediately if anyone opens the doors/enters the house? Any cheap-enough cameras I could temporarily place? I'm not opposed to tossing a Pi with HASS in there to control everything, but I don't have a ton of time.

wet pilot Feb 5, 2019, 4:51 AM

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Old school deadbolt and locks on the doors goes a long way

tropic hedge Feb 5, 2019, 4:51 AM

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true, I'll be doing that for sure

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it's not the tightest house as-is, and it's absolutely not above my aunt to break in

wet pilot Feb 5, 2019, 4:52 AM

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Other than that, maybe just sign IP for a simplisafe contract?

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Well, breaking in is a crime 😉

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Could solve your problem in more ways than one of you press charges

tropic hedge Feb 5, 2019, 4:52 AM

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sure, but arresting my 75 year old aunt would be a bit much unfortunately in this case

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thinking of grabbing just some wireless motion detectors and a camera or two in the meantime

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only need it for a couple weeks and I can re-use it later

wet pilot Feb 5, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Fair

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I'm that asshole that would still get the police and courts involved

tropic hedge Feb 5, 2019, 4:55 AM

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once my buddy who's going to be my property manager moves in a couple of weeks I'll cut ties with my family and that will be that. No reason to have police or courts to deal with

wet pilot Feb 5, 2019, 4:56 AM

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To each their own

tropic hedge Feb 5, 2019, 4:57 AM

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heh, my good aunt couldn't cook dinner last night because evil aunt took the saran wrap while raiding last time (a raid I was there for and was fine with)

wet pilot Feb 5, 2019, 4:57 AM

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Definitely not trying to tell you what to do, I can imagine this is quite difficult enough without a random asshole on the internet piling on

tropic hedge Feb 5, 2019, 4:57 AM

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s'ok, I understand

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so, amazon can die in a fire and all, but it looks like Ring might be a good, cheap-enough option that I can leave for future tenants too

wet pilot Feb 5, 2019, 5:01 AM

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That can work, check your local rentors laws

tropic hedge Feb 5, 2019, 5:04 AM

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holy crap, Ring cameras are prety expensive though

wet pilot Feb 5, 2019, 5:04 AM

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Yeah, that's where they get you

green inlet Feb 5, 2019, 11:23 AM

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@tropic hedge , the resolution isn’t the best but, for quick and easy go the Arlo route. With WiFi you can have several cameras up in a couple hours. They have free 7 day cloud storage. I wouldn’t recommend them for a permanent solution though.

vagrant pewter Feb 5, 2019, 1:19 PM

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?rank other

slim rampartBOT Feb 5, 2019, 1:19 PM

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dynoError That role no longer exists.

vagrant pewter Feb 5, 2019, 1:20 PM

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the bot lied!

orchid rose Feb 5, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Are there any Linux Kodi users here? I'm thinking of getting a Kodi box of some sort. Is there any video filtering available on Linux? I'm currently using Kodi on Windows with MadVR and my fear is that the image quality on lower quality videos will be a massive downgrade...

languid sphinx Feb 5, 2019, 2:07 PM

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Ugh, spent an hour fighting with a Shelly 1. Out $30 for them and the flash gear and they're just impossible to smash into my boxes without being a massive fire hazard

wet pilot Feb 5, 2019, 2:19 PM

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@orchid rose what do you mean filtering?

orchid rose Feb 5, 2019, 2:20 PM

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sharpening, noise reduction etc

languid sphinx Feb 5, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Those do opposite things ...

wet pilot Feb 5, 2019, 2:20 PM

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handbrake, ffmpeg

languid sphinx Feb 5, 2019, 2:22 PM

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Filtering also can't add quality where there isn't really. It can remove noise at the cost of a blurrier image or it can sharpen but that might add artifacts

orchid rose Feb 5, 2019, 2:22 PM

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I know what filtering does...

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There's the scaling too, but those options I could find in the wiki, and even though it's inferior to what madvr can do, it's good enough for me. But I was just wondering if there's any sort of real-time filtering (post-processing) that you can do on Kodi on a Linux system

wet pilot Feb 5, 2019, 2:25 PM

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probably, considering kodi originally only ran on linux variants

shy comet Feb 5, 2019, 3:23 PM

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@wet pilot dont you mean the original xbox? 😛

wet pilot Feb 5, 2019, 3:23 PM

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which was a hacky linux at the time iirc

shy comet Feb 5, 2019, 3:24 PM

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yea i dont think it was until the recent consoles did it become windows based

gusty umbra Feb 5, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Hey guys, sorry for probably asking something really stupid... I just rooted my Xiaomi Vacuum last night. I had to do it from a Raspberry Pi, as I could not make it work in a VM under Windows. So the firmware builder generates SSH keys; ssh_host_rsa_key, ssh_host_rsa_key.pub, ssh_host_dsa_key, ssh_host_dsa_key.pub, ssh_host_ecdsa_key, ssh_host_ecdsa_key.pub, ssh_host_ed25519_key and ssh_host_ed25519_key.pub. To connect to the vacuum over SSH, I can only do it from my Raspberry, as that has the key(s). Any way I can transfer those to my PC? Or just use a passphrase without having those keys?

clever mortar Feb 5, 2019, 9:30 PM

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The files you need are the ones not ending in .pub @gusty umbra

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The keys won't work in PuTTY without converting them, but there are many SSH clients that'll use the files as they are

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I'd suggest Terminus

quartz ether Feb 5, 2019, 10:58 PM

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For anyone looking for more storage for what ever reason
WD 8TB Elements Desktop Hard Drive - USB 3.0 - WDBWLG0080HBK-NESN no limit

$139.99 - https://amzn.to/2t9s5Kq

tropic hedge Feb 6, 2019, 2:39 AM

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how do you get that short link?

last plaza Feb 6, 2019, 2:51 AM

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@tropic hedge they are called amazon referral links - you can search online

tropic hedge Feb 6, 2019, 2:52 AM

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oh it's just a bit.ly link shortener. I've seen the amzn.to links so often I assumed they were a native amazon feature

last plaza Feb 6, 2019, 2:53 AM

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yes - they are amazon feature - but you need to have an account for you to make those referral links

clever shuttle Feb 6, 2019, 3:52 AM

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they're not all affiliate links.... they used to be easier to retrieve until recently

fair monolith Feb 6, 2019, 5:22 AM

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when your linux server running HA is more stable than an apple tv with homekit....

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both are on a UPS

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props to HA

rapid plinth Feb 6, 2019, 8:51 AM

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Incredible... Shodan never found my Hass instance. Nonstandard ports does indeed hide you from automated scans

clever mortar Feb 6, 2019, 8:53 AM

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Yup

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It's not security, but obscurity does work against the masses

rapid plinth Feb 6, 2019, 8:54 AM

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A combination of obscurity and simply not being a target worth human attention does actually make good security

clever mortar Feb 6, 2019, 8:55 AM

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Well, it reduces the probability of anybody paying close attention, rather than actual security

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It's like hiding the handle on your door, and moving the door to the side of the house. That doesn't really boost security, but the idiots walking by trying all the doors will skip your house

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Somebody more determined will look around the sides and back too 😉

rapid plinth Feb 6, 2019, 8:57 AM

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maybe it's stupid, but I keep an FTP server running on the standard port, with a folder on write-only access, just to see if someone comes along and tries to dump something

eager crest Feb 6, 2019, 11:33 AM

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that post from TehRobot was a ref link btw

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for serverbuilds

hearty depot Feb 6, 2019, 11:52 AM

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aah 🤦 trying and trying to mount a hard drive, no luck for a half hour... Then.. just use another USB port.. don.

pliant forge Feb 6, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Roborock S5 is on sale on amazon for@$409. I think is the cheapest I have seen it.

unreal orbit Feb 6, 2019, 3:19 PM

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That's a really good deal. According to Honey that's the lowest it's ever been

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Best vacuum ever btw

pliant forge Feb 6, 2019, 3:25 PM

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I pulled the trigger right when I saw it since I have been waiting for it to go on sale.

unreal orbit Feb 6, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Very rarely do I have no regrets when buying such an expensive item, but this vacuum has been just amazing. The cleaning pattern is light years ahead of any other that I've seen.

pliant forge Feb 6, 2019, 3:33 PM

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@unreal orbit easy to set up with HA?

unreal orbit Feb 6, 2019, 3:34 PM

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What kind of phone do you have? From my understanding it's easier with iOS, but Android wasn't too bad. Just a few extra steps to get the device token

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After you get the token it's super easy

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And you can map out the coordinates for different rooms in your house so you can clean single rooms with a HA script

languid axle Feb 6, 2019, 3:57 PM

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?rank other

slim rampartBOT Feb 6, 2019, 3:57 PM

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dynoError That role no longer exists.

quartz raft Feb 6, 2019, 3:59 PM

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?rank other

slim rampartBOT Feb 6, 2019, 3:59 PM

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dynoError That role no longer exists.

tidal bronze Feb 6, 2019, 4:04 PM

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@unreal orbit do you have the map resetting/overlap issue from time to time?

unreal orbit Feb 6, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I only had the map reset on me once pretty soon after I got the vacuum. I think it tries to orient the map so that North is on top

tidal bronze Feb 6, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Last few months been ok for me but had back to back issues for weeks. All started with the map saving fw update.

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Hopefully it stays this way

unreal orbit Feb 6, 2019, 4:07 PM

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I've only had it since December, but so far it's been consistent. I reeeeeeeally don't want to have to map out each room again

tidal bronze Feb 6, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Been some time with this, yes the best hands down, compared to roomba which is a joke. Never use clean myself all based on zones. But the map thing was not so great.

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About a month ago the orientation completely changed 90 had to redo all the coordinates. 😀

unreal orbit Feb 6, 2019, 4:11 PM

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I think I'm going to write a program that gives you the coordinates of any spot you click on.

tidal bronze Feb 6, 2019, 4:12 PM

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That would be great. Although now I know the rough coordinates by heart. Lol

unreal orbit Feb 6, 2019, 4:13 PM

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But yeah, I have no idea why they don't all clean like this. Perimeter > fill in the mapped area. I don't know how much more simple it could be. It's dynamic, it updates for every cleaning cycle, obstacles are never an issue

pliant forge Feb 6, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Are you guys blocking it from pinging home?

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Yes iOS here @unreal orbit

tidal bronze Feb 6, 2019, 4:14 PM

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As long as the map is not redrawn I am a happy camper.

unreal orbit Feb 6, 2019, 4:15 PM

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@pliant forge I don't block it. I'm not really that paranoid, nor do I care if they have my cleaning data/home layout

tidal bronze Feb 6, 2019, 4:15 PM

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@pliant forge not bothered about that

unreal orbit Feb 6, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Having the cleaning data will only make it better and my house's blueprint is public record to anyone that really cares

tidal bronze Feb 6, 2019, 4:16 PM

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If my floor plan and cleaning data floats anyone's boat more power to them 😀

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Still perfecting traffic based zone cleaning

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unreal orbit Feb 6, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Plus my docking spot is under a TV stand, so if there is a secret camera it's only going to see wall

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Dang, that is above and beyond anything I've even thought about doing lol

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I just have her clean the whole house when everyone leaves

tidal bronze Feb 6, 2019, 4:21 PM

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I never use CLEAN all zone based.

unreal orbit Feb 6, 2019, 4:22 PM

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We have hard floors, so there's always dust to pickup everywhere. Plus she can do my whole house on max and still have 59% battery left, so might as well haha

pliant forge Feb 6, 2019, 4:22 PM

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That’s cool

visual thunder Feb 6, 2019, 5:45 PM

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did not realize there were so many robot cleaning makers... went with iRobot for a variety of reasons but watching it work the first time was a little odd due to the traffic pattern (or lack thereof)

hallow sequoia Feb 6, 2019, 6:39 PM

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S50 Roborock here and i LOVE it! its awesome need to intergrate to HA yet.

orchid rose Feb 6, 2019, 6:46 PM

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I find the cleanup when I'm not home one of the more useful automations I've set up

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just have to remember to pick the cables etc up before leaving home... Came home yesterday to find my headphones and the stand on the floor 😢

unreal orbit Feb 6, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Ha yeah every once in a while something gets accidentally eaten. Trains you to pick your shit up though 😉

pliant forge Feb 6, 2019, 6:54 PM

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That’s the best part about home automation, enjoying the little things.

wintry crow Feb 6, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Lol, reading this chat is very surreal... MEN sitting nattering about housework and ways to make it better 😂

unreal orbit Feb 6, 2019, 10:35 PM

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What makes you think we are all men 😉

wintry crow Feb 6, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Hahah good point

unreal orbit Feb 6, 2019, 10:37 PM

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📎 dog.png

clever mortar Feb 6, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Also, if I'm gonna do the housework, of course I want to make it easier/faster/less boring

wintry crow Feb 6, 2019, 10:40 PM

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https://www.tshirthell.com/images/contestpics/a249_003.jpg

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Hmmm not sure on rules here in the lounge...

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may need to run away

unreal orbit Feb 6, 2019, 10:40 PM

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That's gotta break one of em...

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BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently

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That should do

wintry crow Feb 6, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Oh that's o'right then, I'm always civil lol

wary jolt Feb 6, 2019, 11:48 PM

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@orchid rose , it took me 2 hours to find my cellphone charger the other day. My Roborock carried it around until it got stuck under a door it seems like.

glossy mortar Feb 7, 2019, 1:00 AM

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Liking this new update... Especially the JSON attribute topic for MQTT things... I can think of several ways I can (ab)use that. 😃

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Oh, it was already there? How did I not know this. It would've solved several issues I've been having...

wary jolt Feb 7, 2019, 3:33 AM

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The forecast is looking snowy over here, around Seattle, WA.

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I think I'll have another excuse to spend the whole weekend at home doing random HA stuff.

thorn viper Feb 7, 2019, 8:59 AM

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I'm slowly getting to like this whole Discord thing

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It's not too bad, really.

visual thunder Feb 7, 2019, 2:04 PM

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i swear our cat is trying to destroy the Roomba... keeps putting "dangerous" objects out during cleaning time and then the robot is calling for help at 5:30AM with some cat toy or something wrapped around its innards... 😃

odd mason Feb 7, 2019, 4:57 PM

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@visual thunder tape the cat to the roomba

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problem solved

trail crag Feb 7, 2019, 5:18 PM

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http://internationalclashday.com/

green inlet Feb 8, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Anyone use zooz products?

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Are they good?

odd mason Feb 8, 2019, 1:24 AM

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@green inlet i do

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i love them

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all my switches are zwave plus from zooz

idle owl Feb 8, 2019, 1:26 AM

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One of the projects I've been working on I've finally posted to my website. It's a work in progress but maybe someone will find it useful:
https://andrewhoover.info/blog/project-s1-4-control-panels.html

Project S1.4 - Control panels

As I mentioned in UPDATED: My Home Automation Roadmap, I found that controlling lamps with remote switches is an easy and efficient method of bringing dumb lamps into the smart home fold. However, it introduces a new issue, I don't want to have to pull out my phone every time...

barren hound Feb 8, 2019, 1:33 AM

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building a house is stressful.

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I cannot wait until the structure is done and the weather cooperates

green inlet Feb 8, 2019, 2:38 AM

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@odd mason , what about the dual plug? I think it is the zen25?

odd mason Feb 8, 2019, 3:35 AM

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I don't have any of their plugs but I trust their hardware

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@green inlet

hearty depot Feb 8, 2019, 10:04 AM

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hehe
The electronic lock is reacting after an rng system

Instant
Delay
Not at all
when its not working, just try again

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in yaml ```

service: delay
data_template: >-
{{ [
" 00:00:00",
" ((range(0, 0) | random) | int) ~ ":" ~ ((range(0, 1) | random) | int) ~ ":" ~ ((range(10, 55) | random) | int)",
" false"
] | random }}```

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almost ^^ the seccoond one isnt liked due ":"

visual thunder Feb 8, 2019, 4:13 PM

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is this perhaps the right channel for a question about 'asuswrt'?

unreal orbit Feb 8, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Depends on the question 😉

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If it's about the component then #330944238910963714 is probably a better channel for it

visual thunder Feb 8, 2019, 4:18 PM

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so quickly, i guess... when i installed HA initially, i was seeing a lot of statistics and info about the route in the badges section of my home page... somehow (probably user error? :D) they disappeared... if i look under configuration>intergrations>upnp/igd (?) i see some entries, but they all say "no area" and "entity unavailable"?

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route = router

unreal orbit Feb 8, 2019, 4:21 PM

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That sounds more like an issue with the upnp component

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.components/upnp

velvet horizonBOT Feb 8, 2019, 4:21 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/components/upnp/

unreal orbit Feb 8, 2019, 4:22 PM

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I think you need to configure something in your router in order to use it

visual thunder Feb 8, 2019, 4:23 PM

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hmm... that's not detailed in the 'asuswrt' page of HA's website... i've setup the entry is suggests in configuration.yaml and at some point is was working and then it stopped... i removed the badges at some point, but now i can't get them back 😃

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thanks... i'll keep poking at it... nothing serious, the rest is working, although i just had a weird issue where it's duplicating a "tab" in the overview

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might again be user error and me not understanding what the various options do when adding a tab/group

pure vine Feb 9, 2019, 2:33 AM

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Netatmo is still broken and nothing new on the fix PR

orchid rose Feb 9, 2019, 9:39 AM

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can anyone recommend a smart plug or something that also has dimming? (EU)

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 9:41 AM

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There are Z-Wave ones of those

mighty summit Feb 9, 2019, 9:46 AM

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@orchid rose pwm dimming ?

orchid rose Feb 9, 2019, 10:00 AM

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for regular bulbs

vague narwhal Feb 9, 2019, 1:12 PM

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So I may be able to run Hass.io on an old i3 + 4GB RAM laptop, but I'm wondering if the odroid xu-4 would be faster/better in some other way. Would be nice if someone could chime in and give their own opinion on which would be optimal. Other SBCs aren't out of the question either.

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 1:22 PM

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i3 is I suspect going to be faster, even an old one

spark canyon Feb 9, 2019, 1:30 PM

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Hi!

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Who knows Snips.ai?

vague narwhal Feb 9, 2019, 1:55 PM

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@clever mortar Hmm. That might be the case, even though the odroid has 8 cores. I'll try out the laptop with proxmox or something running from a usb when I have time.

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Thanks

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The only annoyance would be the form factor, as well as the old, glossy, chipped plastic case. But I can get a box or something for it

sage parrot Feb 9, 2019, 3:30 PM

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📎 20190209_142439.jpg

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Time for a fun afternoon

spark canyon Feb 9, 2019, 3:57 PM

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So...

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Guessing no one knows?

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 4:35 PM

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There's not lots of Snips users, plus you're asking over in the channel for non-Home Assistant questions

spark canyon Feb 9, 2019, 5:15 PM

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@clever mortar That's a home assistant question?

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 5:16 PM

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More that, if you're asking in here it's assumed to be not Home Assistant related

spark canyon Feb 9, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Ah ok

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 5:17 PM

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So, the few folks that do use it, who only use it with Home Assistant, may not answer

spark canyon Feb 9, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Alright will ask there

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Thank you!

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Worth reading the channel topics 😉

spark canyon Feb 9, 2019, 5:18 PM

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kk

strong hound Feb 9, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Hello,
I don't know what's the category to put the following in so I'm writing here, tell me if I've to move this message.

I've opened some pull requests to add platforms or components to home-assistant but lately I've seen people I don't know, on social media asking me to fix their problems or things like that.

Since I don't know the best way to handle them, I'm triaging them and moving to the issues to github.

Sometimes, tho, I've seen people that were more insistent and demanded help in ways that are less than appropriate.

Is anyone facing problems like this one?

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 6:05 PM

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The devs see that fairly regularly

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We also see some entitled individuals here, though they swiftly get themselves banned

unreal orbit Feb 9, 2019, 6:06 PM

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'Your free platform isn't working, I want my money back!'

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Indeed, I regularly getting folks DMing me rather than posting in the channels, expecting that I'll help them and getting annoyed when I don't offer one to one support

strong hound Feb 9, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Something like that @unreal orbit :)

I don't know how to handle them if they dm me on my personal facebook/twitter page.

Maybe it's me, but I don't think it's that polite.

unreal orbit Feb 9, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Share your questions with the class, because chances are someone else is having the same problem

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 6:08 PM

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It's not, but it's entitled idiots, and the world isn't short of those

unreal orbit Feb 9, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Unlink your facebook and twitter from github?

strong hound Feb 9, 2019, 6:08 PM

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I don't have them listed anywhere. They stalk me! AHAH

unreal orbit Feb 9, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Oh damn. Yeah that sucks. I'd just block them as I go

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Let the morons know where they can go for help, block them, and move on with your life 🤷

strong hound Feb 9, 2019, 6:09 PM

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@clever mortar It works for 50-60% of them

unreal orbit Feb 9, 2019, 6:09 PM

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And consider having different usernames for different platforms

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 6:10 PM

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There are people that don't?

unreal orbit Feb 9, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Apparently not

dull chasm Feb 9, 2019, 6:10 PM

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i want one to one on everything i demand it

strong hound Feb 9, 2019, 6:10 PM

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There're people that don't get why I've linked them to the discord chat/the forum/the github issues and they get mad for no reason

unreal orbit Feb 9, 2019, 6:11 PM

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I mean I don't, but I don't really care about getting cyber stalked

strong hound Feb 9, 2019, 6:12 PM

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I don't care too, cause it's fairly simple (same username) but you can, let's say, ask things with a good attitude and maybe I'll guide you trough something, if I've some spare time

unreal orbit Feb 9, 2019, 6:12 PM

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That would require people being generally decent

strong hound Feb 9, 2019, 6:13 PM

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But, asking things like:
"I'm using 2 of your platforms and they don't work. It's crap"

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 6:13 PM

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See, to me that's insta-block grounds

strong hound Feb 9, 2019, 6:13 PM

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they're not mine
what bruh?

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still 10 times better than play store reviews, tho

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thank your for letting me let off some steam

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 6:16 PM

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We're always here to listen, sometimes here to help 😉

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Actually, I lied, there's usually somebody here, but that assumes that you're not all figments of my imagination who disappear when I'm sleeping...

strong hound Feb 9, 2019, 6:18 PM

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laughed hard at this one

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 6:19 PM

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I try 😉

dull chasm Feb 9, 2019, 6:52 PM

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@clever mortar shhh old man

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 6:53 PM

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My body may be old, but my mind is... crap, where did it go...?

dull chasm Feb 9, 2019, 7:00 PM

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@clever mortar food for thought just so you can remember
If one of your opponent’s checkers is on a forward diagonal next to one of your checkers, and the next space beyond the opponent’s checker is empty, then your checker must jump the opponent’s checker and land in the space beyond. Your opponent’s checker is captured and removed from the board.

clever mortar Feb 9, 2019, 7:00 PM

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I understand all the words
I'm not sure I understand the sentence 😛

dull chasm Feb 9, 2019, 7:01 PM

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it comes with time ....thats why i keep whooping your arse at checkers

green inlet Feb 10, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Replace checker(s) with the word boobie(s), because I act like I am only 13 years old

wary jolt Feb 10, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Lol...

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You guys crack me up...

wary jolt Feb 10, 2019, 4:53 AM

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I still can't believe we are getting snow here in Seattle in February...

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📎 IMG_20190209_103001.jpg

lyric pollen Feb 10, 2019, 7:07 AM

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I'm actually jealous. I'm in Oregon and all I have is rain. 😢

clear ferry Feb 10, 2019, 8:14 AM

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Iot and smart houses are a big thing in Norway now, a super market chain has created some commercials that put the problems of implementation on point and are worth checking out 🍅😂 https://youtu.be/sgJLpuprQp8

YouTube

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wary jolt Feb 10, 2019, 8:26 AM

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I just spit out my coffee! Lol... Thanks for that @clear ferry

clear ferry Feb 10, 2019, 8:27 AM

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@wary jolt there is a whole series of them, don't know if YouTube shows you the rest 😂

wary jolt Feb 10, 2019, 8:28 AM

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I am looking at the REMA 1000 Channel on YouTube...

lyric pollen Feb 10, 2019, 8:35 AM

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Proxmox or Unraid for Debian VM. Go.

clear ferry Feb 10, 2019, 8:49 AM

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@lyric pollen esxi always 😜

lyric pollen Feb 10, 2019, 8:49 AM

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It's late. I meant ESXi or Proxmox.

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Not unraid.

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Jeez.

lyric pollen Feb 10, 2019, 9:08 AM

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Why ESXi over Proxmox?

mighty summit Feb 10, 2019, 2:00 PM

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any one using a HA instance at work, or work-related ?

clever mortar Feb 10, 2019, 2:03 PM

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There are some. There's been posts on the forum about people using it that way, and back before Discord there were some folks posting on Gitter about it

unreal orbit Feb 10, 2019, 5:10 PM

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I have an instance at work for our insteon stuff

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It's labeled 'Work Assistant' because I'm really creative

pure vine Feb 10, 2019, 5:13 PM

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I think we should have a fourm catagory called In the wild where people can share where they have noticed home assistant in odd places

hearty depot Feb 11, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Already checked out the RPI3 A+ ?

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Just ordered one and a zero for room Assistant

lyric pollen Feb 11, 2019, 5:33 AM

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What's a zero?

hearty depot Feb 11, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Raspberry pi zero

eager crest Feb 11, 2019, 6:44 AM

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so zero is too slow

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at least it always crashes

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rpi3a+ is interesting

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but i think its still not enough

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because of the ram

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 7:05 AM

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If the Zero is crashing, then there's a problem with your setup

hearty depot Feb 11, 2019, 7:07 AM

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I set up Home assistant and a pivpn on a zero ^^ to be honest only one timebased automation and 3 switches - but it works
Uh - and all over wireless

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 7:09 AM

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The Zero is pretty much the original Pi in a new form factor. I ran on the original Pi for years without issue

hearty depot Feb 11, 2019, 7:11 AM

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wanted to ask - is it possible/a good idea to run pivpn on ubuntu - I like the user creation and the overall feeling very much

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 7:12 AM

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Works fine on Ubuntu and Debian

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PiVPN is just a wrapper for OpenVPN

hearty depot Feb 11, 2019, 7:13 AM

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Nice - ll get rid of the seccond pi then - wasnt shure if its bound to the ARM processor

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 7:14 AM

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Nah, I run it on Ubuntu

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 7:26 AM

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@hearty depot or even deploy a proper router, pfsense or untangle or similar that will have built in services like openvpn, so you handle the endpoint on your perimeter instead of inside your network

hearty depot Feb 11, 2019, 7:28 AM

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I guess my EdgeRouter X could do this,,

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 7:29 AM

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Doesn't have a nice management interface for the VPN though 😉

hearty depot Feb 11, 2019, 7:29 AM

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Thats why I asked bout the pivpn ^^

mighty summit Feb 11, 2019, 9:17 AM

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any one here using Shinobi ?

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 11:27 AM

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@mighty summit tried, didn't like it at all, went back to zoneminder

mighty summit Feb 11, 2019, 11:36 AM

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yea...since asking here...i tried also. Just wiped the VM now.

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it's a steaming mess.

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@clear ferry thx for posting anyway.

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also, if Frenck say it be no good, then it be no good.

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ZM ftw i say.

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Altho their community is...sad.

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 12:00 PM

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Who needs a community with a product that just works @mighty summit ;-D

broken sapphire Feb 11, 2019, 12:04 PM

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Hey guys, what's the current popular RF + IR controller with Home Assistant component/good-integration? A friend is using the Broadlink RM Pro but before I rush out and buy thought I'd check.

proven spruce Feb 11, 2019, 12:05 PM

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i believe that's the only one that does it all

broken sapphire Feb 11, 2019, 12:05 PM

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Okay cool 😃 thanks @proven spruce are you personally familiar with it? I can't seem to figure out difference between "BroadLink RM Pro" and "BroadLink Rm3 Pro". All good if you're not sure 😃

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 12:10 PM

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I really need to replace my Telldus 433+zwave thing, it is so sluggish it feels like I'm working over a dialup connection sometimes

broken sapphire Feb 11, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Anyone know if the Xiaomi Aqara Body sensors will connect with Xiaomi Mijia Hub?

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 12:29 PM

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I thought mijia was gen1 and aqara was gen2 though, not sure

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I only have aqara sensors and gen2 hub

cursive nimbus Feb 11, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Hey all- Does anyone here have any experience with hue lightstrips ?

ionic temple Feb 11, 2019, 4:27 PM

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hi there, what channel should I go t to ask for some support on the new SmartThings component?

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 4:29 PM

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@ionic temple #330944238910963714 are probably the best channel for that 😃

ionic temple Feb 11, 2019, 4:29 PM

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👍

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 4:42 PM

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@cursive nimbus I built a hue lightstrip clone if that helps 😂

cursive nimbus Feb 11, 2019, 6:30 PM

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@clear ferry Hey...thanks for responding. I have no electrical experience at all. In my home I have 5 sets of (older halogen) under cabinet strips that I would like to replace with hue or something like it.

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@clear ferry I would reallly like to splice the hue or similar replacements onto the existing power wires.

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 6:32 PM

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You don't have to tag folks in every reply FYI

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That sends a notification each time

cursive nimbus Feb 11, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Thanks tinkerer

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 6:33 PM

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If those are mains voltage lights, you'd need to put a DC supply in

cursive nimbus Feb 11, 2019, 6:34 PM

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I believe that that the existing halogen bulbs are 12v

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 6:34 PM

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In that case, putting Hue or similar in should be trivial

cursive nimbus Feb 11, 2019, 6:36 PM

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That is what I am hoping. I should be able to cut and splice in the new light stirps somehow?

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Afraid on ruining both the existing strips and the hue strips at the same time !

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Probably, assuming the supply is really the required voltage, and can supply at least the required amps

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#diy-archived can likely help you more with that though

cursive nimbus Feb 11, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Really wish I could find the transformers

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Getting it wrong would be expensive

cursive nimbus Feb 11, 2019, 6:38 PM

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I will head to DIY 😃

odd mason Feb 11, 2019, 6:40 PM

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man i love that proxmox management is web based

last plaza Feb 11, 2019, 6:54 PM

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@odd mason ESXi has web based management console as well

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I think for newer versions, they discontinued older thick client based management tool... it is only web based now

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oh, no! @light trout is back - I better run

velvet horizonBOT Feb 11, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Ludeeus is away for 1h 39m 45s with a message :point_right: Dinner (and potentially a movie) 🍕 🎦

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 6:55 PM

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That is correct 😃

last plaza Feb 11, 2019, 6:55 PM

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lol

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 6:55 PM

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(to both) 😅

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👋

last plaza Feb 11, 2019, 6:55 PM

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how was the movie?

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Boring

last plaza Feb 11, 2019, 6:56 PM

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lol - what movie is that?

green inlet Feb 11, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Anyone running owncloud on a Raspberry? Is it worth my time?

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 6:56 PM

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"Then came you"

last plaza Feb 11, 2019, 6:56 PM

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ah! ok - I will keep an eye on that movie

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I know someone was running OwnCloud, but not on RPi

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I think they are running on UnRaid

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 6:57 PM

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It's probably doable as long as you map inn an external storage source

green inlet Feb 11, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Yes, that is the plan.

last plaza Feb 11, 2019, 6:58 PM

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@light trout I see Arya Stark in that movie

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supposed to be a scary movie?

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Is it? Lol no wonder I found it boring 🤣

last plaza Feb 11, 2019, 6:59 PM

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lol - she is fantastic in Game Of Thrones BTW -she played one of the best roles

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waiting for April 19!!! last season!

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 7:00 PM

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There will probably be an uprising for this, but I found GOT boring as well. 😅
run and hides

last plaza Feb 11, 2019, 7:01 PM

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OMG!!!! I don't blame you - with GoT, either you love it, or you don't! 😃

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 7:12 PM

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Tried reading the books, abandoned the first one, never cared enough to watch the TV series

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 7:17 PM

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they made books too? 😅

last plaza Feb 11, 2019, 7:20 PM

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they started with books first, and then the TV series came later

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 7:23 PM

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ah books first, that make more sense 😄

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Except when it's the other way around. There's been more than a few that have gone that way

unreal orbit Feb 11, 2019, 7:24 PM

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GoT is both. The books started first, but the show has passed them up now

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 7:25 PM

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That's because the author grinds slowly

odd mason Feb 11, 2019, 7:36 PM

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@last plaza nice didn't know that

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 7:43 PM

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@last plaza VMware tried to retire the c# client since 6.0 but users are stubborn and the webclient was shite in flash, 6.7u1 is the first proper webclient with HTML5 , and it's super snappy,but since 6.5u1 the features in the web client were better than the c# client, and yeah the c# client no longer works in 6.7

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 7:45 PM

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You can still use player to connect to it?

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 7:45 PM

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@odd mason I haven't seen a single customer run proxmox though, even for testing

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@light trout VMware player to connect to esxi?

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 7:45 PM

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yeah

last plaza Feb 11, 2019, 7:45 PM

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yes, the c# client no longer supported for versions above 6.5

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 7:45 PM

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@light trout never seen that happen

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Hmm... sice you work with this there is a good chance I'm mixing something xD

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 7:47 PM

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@light trout only guy in the whole country who works with virtualization for my company 😂 or rather 😭 😭 😭

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Stop automating your tasks, and hire one more 😉

dusk mason Feb 11, 2019, 7:48 PM

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The swarm and home assistant is running on two seperate devices

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 7:48 PM

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@light trout I wish, three week wait time in my calender 😭

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 7:48 PM

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I see that now @dusk mason 😃

dusk mason Feb 11, 2019, 7:49 PM

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I believe it is because on cloudflare my home IP is routed to traefik which homeassistant is clashing with it since its the same IP?

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 7:49 PM

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At least you will have a job for a loong time @clear ferry 😄

last plaza Feb 11, 2019, 7:49 PM

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or until they hire someone good 😛

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lmao

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 7:50 PM

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it could be @dusk mason I tried running træfik, but it was too complicated for my setup, NGINX give me enough 😛

dusk mason Feb 11, 2019, 7:51 PM

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any idea if theres anything on hassio which could stop that?\

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 7:51 PM

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nope (I don't know, but there are other here with more knowledge then me) 😃

odd mason Feb 11, 2019, 7:58 PM

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@clear ferry i think vmware and hyper-v are so embedded into the enterprise ecosystems that it'll be difficult to get proxmox to get a foothold

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but i've read a lot about it on /r/homelabs and people seem to like it

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i figured it's worth trying out instead of worrying about licenses with vmware

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https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/5vit59/proxmox_vs_esxi/

r/homelab - Proxmox vs. ESXi

33 votes and 66 comments so far on Reddit

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 8:03 PM

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@odd mason most homelab people I know run xen or kvm though

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@light trout well, I am the only one who is working with 11 products, so I need to nag my manager for money next week 🤑

slim ore Feb 11, 2019, 8:44 PM

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@odd mason : running VirtualBox with a few servers (managed by phpVirtualBox)... I used proxmox ...but wanted my main server to be able to run docker too .. so changed the whole setup so I could run docker and virtualbox

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 8:47 PM

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@slim ore couldn't you run docker on a VM in proxmox? That would be no problem with nested virtualization on esxi afaik

lyric pollen Feb 11, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Why do people keep praising ESXi? I read almost nothing positive about it and a lot of negatives.

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 8:47 PM

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@lyric pollen because people enjoy uptime, not half good stuff pretending to be featurefull

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Same reason we like to be home, it's familiar 🤷

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if it's good enough for all the companies i have worked for, it's good enough for me 😛

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 8:48 PM

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@slim ore i run a second esxi instance inside my esxi environment, and run hyperv on a VM in there too, haven't tried with docker,but will give it a go this week

lyric pollen Feb 11, 2019, 8:49 PM

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I've heard the licensing is a mess.

slim ore Feb 11, 2019, 8:50 PM

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@clear ferry : well I used that same host to expose some disk in my home setup .... and I found it easier to setup the Debian host with virtualbox and docker (less overhead)

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 8:50 PM

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@lyric pollen you get what you pay for, they removed the middle licence though, which was a bummer, so now it is all or some features

slim ore Feb 11, 2019, 8:50 PM

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*disks

light trout Feb 11, 2019, 8:50 PM

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For most people I belive the free version is capable enough

lyric pollen Feb 11, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Since I'm not going to spring for a VM license, what do you miss out on using ESXi when you have only the free license?

slim ore Feb 11, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Free ESXi ... only 10 hosts

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no vcenter

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 8:51 PM

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@slim ore wouldn't be a problem to present volumes from the esxi host either, either passthrough the local drives or just the volume front-end

slim ore Feb 11, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Yeah, was more comfortable with Debian 😛

clear ferry Feb 11, 2019, 8:52 PM

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@lyric pollen for most users? Probably nothing imo, I do need enterprise plus for my graphic card accelerated VMS and vmotion been hosts and storage

sage parrot Feb 11, 2019, 10:33 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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love my proxmox box

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never had an issue with it

pure vine Feb 11, 2019, 10:51 PM

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whats the advantage of GPS logger?

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Instead of ?

pure vine Feb 11, 2019, 10:52 PM

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owntracks

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Once upon a time, OwnTracks didn't support Android any more

pure vine Feb 11, 2019, 10:53 PM

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I am tempted to use gps logger to get rid of the headache of managing owntracks

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 10:54 PM

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GPS Logger just works for me

pure vine Feb 11, 2019, 10:54 PM

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Yeah, and it being over HTTP makes SSL easier

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 10:54 PM

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OwnTracks also has an HTTP mode

unreal orbit Feb 11, 2019, 10:54 PM

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You can do https with owntracks

clever mortar Feb 11, 2019, 10:54 PM

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Both are supported by Webhooks these days

unreal orbit Feb 11, 2019, 11:29 PM

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Is there a way to change the device id after it's added from the gpslogger webhook? Or are you stuck with the generated entity_id?

pure vine Feb 12, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Oh i have mannaged to fix my tradfri issue, someone pointed me to the github issue that contains a fix as a custom component

odd mason Feb 12, 2019, 3:00 AM

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anyone built python 3.7.2 from source on debian?

storm summit Feb 12, 2019, 3:22 AM

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I would recompile these for stretch . https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=python3.7

midnight adder Feb 12, 2019, 3:24 AM

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https://www.humblebundle.com/books/robotics-iot-books

Humble Bundle

Humble Book Bundle: Robotics & IoT by Packt

Pay what you want for awesome ebooks and support charity!

odd mason Feb 12, 2019, 3:30 AM

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@dry cairn i wanna know your opinions on recent things

dry cairn Feb 12, 2019, 3:31 AM

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if i tell you in ha discord i be outta here faster then a filipino hooker after dollar night

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i don t need that printed anywhere

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ya'll gonna find out soon enough

odd mason Feb 12, 2019, 3:33 AM

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don't tease us like that @dry cairn

midnight adder Feb 12, 2019, 3:33 AM

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xD

odd mason Feb 12, 2019, 3:33 AM

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what's there to be apprehensive about?

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 3:46 AM

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Just a shout out to the HA Devs

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For making a framework/system that lets you get stuff done so quickly without reinventing the wheel

odd mason Feb 12, 2019, 3:52 AM

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👍🏻

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 4:05 AM

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It's a refreshing change from the typical hardcore linux community who think you're a filthy casual if you don't build arch by hand :D

dry cairn Feb 12, 2019, 4:24 AM

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wut you don't build arch from scratch?

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now that does it

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the nerve.....

dry cairn Feb 12, 2019, 4:54 AM

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@serene mortar beeing annoying is not a crime and it was a valid concern the dude had and agreeing with it is not a crime either (or against rules ) 😉

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 5:39 AM

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"you should never use scripts to install arch" - Linux Discord

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 6:26 AM

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So my SO threw a fit this morning...

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she did not appreciate my attempts at creating a wake up light

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 6:41 AM

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@hushed basalt remember doing Gentoo stage 1, took me three days to do the install, and I only had that one computer while doing university

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@thorn viper 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 6:49 AM

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I've now put Thomas's lock-entity-row on the enable boolean :P

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 6:51 AM

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@thorn viper atleast your work 😂

wary jolt Feb 12, 2019, 7:19 AM

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@dry cairn, I spent a few minutes going through that conversation and I agree with both of you guys, one of the reasons for me to use HA is privacy and collecting information about your system by default seems to go against their own policy.

nocturne hawk Feb 12, 2019, 8:43 AM

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hello world i'm from Portugal and new here, hope to learn the most from you i heard you where the best

vast dove Feb 12, 2019, 8:49 AM

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@clever mortar is the best

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 8:49 AM

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I have access to Google, that makes it easy to fake knowledge 😛

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 8:52 AM

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@vast dove I'm afraid next time I travel to the UK that if I say something wrong @clever mortar will walk up behind me and tell me to read the docs 😫

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 8:53 AM

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Well, duh 😛

vast dove Feb 12, 2019, 8:53 AM

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haha 😂

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 8:53 AM

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Just like the plans for the bypass were in the basement (HHGTTG), the answer is somewhere in the docs

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That you require an expedition to find the answer... 🤷
😛

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 8:54 AM

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@pure vine what was your trådfri issue?

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 8:54 AM

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Don't know if I want to buy that cottage in Somerset anymore if @clever mortar will haunt me 😭

vast dove Feb 12, 2019, 8:55 AM

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I imagine @clever mortar in real life is a real shy guy that wont do you any harm :D:D

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 8:55 AM

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In the UK, the problem is finding a cottage that isn't haunted 😛

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 8:55 AM

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Trådfri is a swedish product, it works as expected.
funkar, funkar inte, funkar, funkar inte 🤷

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 8:55 AM

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@vast dove There's no evidence at all that I've ever harmed anybody 😉

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 8:55 AM

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tinkerer is actually a reformed hooligan

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 8:56 AM

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Nope, there's no freshly dug ground over there...

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 8:56 AM

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You are ALL wrong!
@clever mortar is not a person, but a highly sophisticated bot net 🤓

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 8:57 AM

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@light trout hehe, i recently purchased my trådfri devices, and it has indeed acted up a bit already...

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 8:57 AM

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We're really working on the infinite monkey approach, but with bots @light trout

vast dove Feb 12, 2019, 8:57 AM

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Powered by Runet ?

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 8:57 AM

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It scales fine on the Internet these days 😛

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 8:57 AM

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Skynet

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What was that movie about some guy bringing home a AI project from work. The machine had a female voice and was mostly doing home automation until it threw a fit trying to stab its master with a kitchen knife

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wasn't a cyborg or anything, but it had an arm attached to a rail in the ceiling... lol!

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 8:59 AM

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@clear ferry you can install Gentoo in one command

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It just has a lottttt of && in it

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 8:59 AM

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i don't remember exactly when i saw it... it's probably from the 80s

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 8:59 AM

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@hushed basalt took over 24 hours to just compile the stuff back then 😭 was in 2003

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:00 AM

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btw, thanks whoever mentioned gpslogger. i've been reluctant using gps thingies since i don't want my location tracked in the cloud, but this thing looks like it can throw the info straight into HA via http

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:02 AM

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You can, I use it that way

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OwnTracks in HTTP mode works that way too

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:06 AM

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@clever mortar i'm wondering why you aren't experiencing problems with the device tracker, but I am (and people on the forums and github). Does the 'scanner' attribute on your nmap scanned device_trackers say 'NmapSomething', or is it empty?

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:06 AM

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Let me eyeball

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scanner: NmapDeviceScanner

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:07 AM

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because, i realise that one difference is that you also use gps while i don't... i'm wondering if that 'masks' a possible bug

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mm

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:07 AM

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I don't merge the trackers though

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I have three device trackers per device - one GPS, one WiFi, one Bluetooth

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:08 AM

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Hm, I see

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when my nmap device_trackers get stuck being 'home', the scanner attribute is empty

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other people seem to be having the same problem... but i found a forum thread where people had the same problem with the unifi device tracker

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:09 AM

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Sounds like a bug with restore state

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:09 AM

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so i'm guessing it could be a more 'general' problem, with all trackers

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:10 AM

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Try using homeassistant.update_entity service to "force" it

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:10 AM

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@light trout seems to be introduced in 0.84, according to https://github.com/home-assistant/home-assistant/issues/19998

GitHub

Nmap device stays home · Issue #19998 · home-assistant/home-assi...

Home Assistant release with the issue: 0.84+ Last working Home Assistant release (if known): 0.83 Operating environment (Hass.io/Docker/Windows/etc.): Hass.io Component/platform: Nmap device tracke...

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:10 AM

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I'm still on 0.84.6 though, haven't had a decent opportunity to upgrade further

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:11 AM

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hm

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:11 AM

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@clever mortar Run upgrade cmd, close your eyes, come here and complain after because you forgot to check breaking changes 😄

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:12 AM

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🤣

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Biggest holdup is the change to GPSLogger

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:12 AM

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That seems to be the default 😄

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:12 AM

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@clever mortar https://github.com/home-assistant/home-assistant/pull/19133 should be in 0.84.6 i guess, so you should be experiencing this problem 😛

GitHub

Remove marking device tracker stale if state is stale by arigilder...

Description:
Fix issues reported in
#18999
#18930
#18662
introduced in #18572
by no longer marking devices as stale. This will fix the issue, however the "true" fix is probably to get the...

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:12 AM

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I'm going to write a CGI script for NGINX to translate the existing GET to a POST so I can decouple the HA upgrade from touching the phones

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@thorn viper The Pi is scared of me 😉

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:13 AM

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0.84 added the improved state restore, so my assumtion may be correct mindblown

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:13 AM

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Yeah, I suspect the actual problem is an interaction of things

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:13 AM

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I really need to replace my G7 server soon, someone should throw out a Gen8 or Gen9 soon, 192GB RAM just ain't cutting it no more

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:13 AM

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@light trout go fix, i'll buy you coffee! \o/

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:14 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/544807431427981312 @thorn viper

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:14 AM

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@light trout please elaborate

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:15 AM

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1: run service
2: check if device has correct state

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🤷

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:15 AM

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3: Profit

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:15 AM

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4: automate

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:15 AM

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😄

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:16 AM

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Automations are essentially "workarounds" so you can enhance and/or make your live easier /enabling you to be more lazy)

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:16 AM

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well, right now they're all showing correct states :p

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:17 AM

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more productive*

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:18 AM

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Not in my experience, the time I have used on this are WAY more then what i would have used doing things manually xD

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:18 AM

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its an investment into future

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imagine all the time you'll save not walking to the switch

orchid rose Feb 12, 2019, 9:18 AM

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I have the exact same experience, but it's fun so

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:19 AM

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future of breaking changes, making me invest more time @proven spruce ? 🤣

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:19 AM

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man, why you have to ruin everything

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just yesterday i spend an hour figuring out why mariadb isn't connecting after finally discovering the docker image changed its default setting to only allow localhost

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:20 AM

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And I also use my switches :P
I have not 1 active automation (or HA instance running) 😛

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:20 AM

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that's bizzarre

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:21 AM

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Not really, there's more than a few folks here who don't make much use of HA, including some of the developers

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:21 AM

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you don't run HA? 😛

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:21 AM

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no?

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:21 AM

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developers are weird

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:21 AM

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@light trout runs OpenHAB!

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:21 AM

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what are you doing here then? 😛

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:21 AM

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I have multiple I can start if I need to test something 😃

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:21 AM

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no wonder they do so many breaking changes, its doesnt affect them

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:22 AM

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to be fair, the amout of breaking changes could be a lot more, usually they are caught during PR review, and if possible removed

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:22 AM

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@light trout give me a colour, I'll choose PINK, you can call the new class "Outcast"

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😄

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:23 AM

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I don't think I have that kind of power

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:23 AM

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But you have the high ground @light trout !

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:23 AM

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There'd be less breaking changes with a test plan, and actual testers 😛

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 9:23 AM

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@clear ferry I'm on Linux mint. Made the jump from windows 10 to pure linux a few months ago

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:24 AM

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how's that working out for you

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 9:24 AM

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Great, mint has some gotchas thougu

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:24 AM

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@hushed basalt I ran linux from 99-2005 as my primary desktop, but since then I only run one of my work laptops with linux

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:24 AM

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linux as a desktop... shudder

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 9:24 AM

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I'm considering jumping ship to either vanilla Ubuntu or opensuse TW

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@proven spruce no candy crush installed by default, so there's that

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:25 AM

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I ran Linux as a desktop for years, for web browsing, email, and office use it's fine

orchid rose Feb 12, 2019, 9:25 AM

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Blakadder, I think you might be triggering a lot of people

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:25 AM

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Heck, with the right setup folks may not even realise it's not Windows 😛

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:25 AM

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Only things keeping me on OS X are Pro Tools for audio recording and Final Cut for video editing

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:26 AM

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@clever mortar I had a 11" ultrabook at work a few years ago, I could get 2 hours battery life out of with the corporate windows image, installed linux got 8 hours 😄

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:26 AM

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i also ran linux as a desktop for a few years

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:26 AM

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Untill game devs start fokusing on linux I'm stuck with MS :/

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:26 AM

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Yeah, I'm Windows on my primary laptop, because of various pieces of software

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:26 AM

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@light trout WHAT IS THE PROBLEM, QUAKE 3 RUNS NATIVLY!

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:26 AM

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Well..
It's not 2003 anymore 🤷

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:26 AM

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whatchatalkinbout dosbox works fine

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:27 AM

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@light trout wait what, shit, why did I fix that windows 2003 server for a customer last week then ?

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oh right, customers suck

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:27 AM

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you didnt fix that server, its just working a bit better

orchid rose Feb 12, 2019, 9:27 AM

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I get 10 hours with Windows on my laptop. Does this mean I would get 40 on Linux? 🤔

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:27 AM

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4

hearty depot Feb 12, 2019, 9:27 AM

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ll maybe also change to linux.
Especialy after Steam has his beta linux feature

but at the moment I run a windows LTSB (2016) version - wich is just nice

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:28 AM

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if valve do it right this time that can be a valid option 😄

orchid rose Feb 12, 2019, 9:28 AM

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not holding by breath on those points 😃

hearty depot Feb 12, 2019, 9:28 AM

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I just need Warframe running xD

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:29 AM

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I need division 😄

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:29 AM

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two games i thought noone plays

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:29 AM

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i'm happy i never got into gaming. seems to complicate life :p

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:29 AM

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Meh, i stopped playing on my desktop almost 10 years ago, I do PS4 when I have time between all the overtime and the new boss in the house 😄

vast dove Feb 12, 2019, 9:29 AM

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Whats all these fancy games you guys talk about? Isnt Minesweeper good enough any more?

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:29 AM

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all i play is Atlas Reactor and XCOM

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:30 AM

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@vast dove Heart in Netwok!

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Or whatever it was called

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I remember playing with strangers at my dads workplace in the early 90s

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@proven spruce Hopefully you mean Xcom: Enemy Unknown and Terror From The Deep!

vast dove Feb 12, 2019, 9:31 AM

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That just sounds weird 😄

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:31 AM

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@vast dove No candy was exchanged!

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:31 AM

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@clear ferry actuall XCOM Long War 😛

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:31 AM

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@proven spruce zzzz TFTD 4 lyfe

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:31 AM

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@clear ferry i never played old XCOM cause i played Jagged Aliiance too much

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:32 AM

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LOL

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I loved that game

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I had actually forgotten it

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:32 AM

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just dont try the new version... nothing alike

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:32 AM

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There was another one

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where you played british saboteurs

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against nazis

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:33 AM

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commandos

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:33 AM

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YES

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:33 AM

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that was more of a puzzle game

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:33 AM

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indeed

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:33 AM

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and commandos 2 was frustratingly difficult

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old games built patience and character

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:35 AM

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I still remember soldering a LPT-cable I think it was to play Doom Head to head, since it sucked over dialup 😄

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The rockets never hit when we played on dialup

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:36 AM

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we were hauling computers and 15" monitors across town to a friends house to have weekend doom lan sessions

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:37 AM

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I started hosting lan parties for people back in 1997, I remember buying a few used hubs and sending out flyers, think I got 40-50 people to the first one

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not everybody had network cards though

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😄

orchid rose Feb 12, 2019, 9:38 AM

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oh right we didn't always have intergrated ones at that time

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and used hubs and not switches

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:38 AM

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I think the integrated ones didn't pop up until 2004ish ?

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:38 AM

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I had, until recently, an ISA 3COM NIC in a drawer

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:38 AM

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shees, nothing was integrated, you even had to have an io card

low harness Feb 12, 2019, 9:38 AM

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Those were the days.

orchid rose Feb 12, 2019, 9:39 AM

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I probably have some network card in a box as well somewhere

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:39 AM

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@clever mortar I still have a few 509 and 905s lying around

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:39 AM

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That was a fancy one, with a 10BaseT connector

orchid rose Feb 12, 2019, 9:39 AM

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not an ISA one though 😛

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:39 AM

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i definitely do not miss the coax network cables

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:39 AM

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The cables were fine... the termination... 😱

low harness Feb 12, 2019, 9:39 AM

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Anyone remember attaching 20 MB hard-drives with SCSI?

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:39 AM

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Uh huh

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:39 AM

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@clever mortar or the guy who owned one of the terminators had to leave

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:40 AM

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I remember replacing a stack of 5.25" full height hard drives, with a single 3.5" half height drive

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:40 AM

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haha, don't mention that

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:40 AM

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@clever mortar Full height 5.25, don't remember owning any of those, but I had the WD Bigfoot which was slimline 5.25 :p

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:41 AM

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That was work's problem thankfully

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:41 AM

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Demn you guys are old xD

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:41 AM

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experienced*

orchid rose Feb 12, 2019, 9:42 AM

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Computer class at school and the 115V/230V switch at the back of the PSUs has stuck in my mind as well

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:42 AM

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@light trout Heck, I'm only born in 1984, what are you ? BARELY LEGAL ? 😄

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:42 AM

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I've toasted a few 110V power supplys

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240V into 110V supply really does let the magic smoke out

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Anyway, old is when you've used 8" floppy disks...

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 9:43 AM

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91 @clear ferry 😛

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:43 AM

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Oh, crap, yeah

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:43 AM

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@light trout daaamn son :p

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90s kids don't understand our old timer problems

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😄

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:43 AM

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😄

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:43 AM

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But I still get asked for ID when I buy wine sometimes

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😄

orchid rose Feb 12, 2019, 9:44 AM

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90s kids don't remember the time without the internet

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:44 AM

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they don't know the pain of tuning your cassette reader with a tiny screwdriver to load a game

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:44 AM

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I don't miss those days

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 9:44 AM

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the dark times, when you never knew anything

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:45 AM

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@clever mortar I miss the days when not just anyone could be a "system admin" jeeeze all the stupid people I have to help with basic stuff mindblown

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:45 AM

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That's why I'm no longer an admin, I got out before I defenestrated somebody

orchid rose Feb 12, 2019, 9:46 AM

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no internet nor mobile phones, ewww

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:46 AM

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Thankfully I get a lot of alone time in the datacenters, but sometimes I just go "wait, you manage a system for 500 users, that turns a profit of 500.000 every day, but you don't understand how to upgrade firmware of a server?"

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:47 AM

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@clever mortar what do you do?

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:47 AM

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I have to come out at 0400 in the morning because you didn't understand how to download and run a .exe file ?

low harness Feb 12, 2019, 9:47 AM

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Oh my god. Why did it even HAVE that screw? If they just set all of them to the same speed there wouldn't be a problem!

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:47 AM

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Consultancy @thorn viper

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A wide range of IT flavoured stuff

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Mostly on the design/architecture side of things, but also bits of anything

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:48 AM

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Ah

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:51 AM

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I'm a jack of many trades, courtesy of a varied past 😄

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:51 AM

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😃

wary jolt Feb 12, 2019, 9:51 AM

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@clear ferry , I was also born in 1984...

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:52 AM

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@clever mortar I'm jack of all trades, master of none 😂

wary jolt Feb 12, 2019, 9:52 AM

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I definitely don't feel old...

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:52 AM

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for me, IT has just been a hobby, with the exemption of a year or two where i did some programming, but that was almost 15 years ago

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:52 AM

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IT's a hobby for me 😉

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Just happens to be one I can make a living from 😛

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:53 AM

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👆 this

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same for me

wary jolt Feb 12, 2019, 9:54 AM

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Great for you guys! I have to find time between appointments to work on my hobbies.

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:54 AM

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It helps that I love learning new things, so while I've been working with computers for some 3 decades, it never gets old

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:55 AM

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@clever mortar is so old he was the teacher of Ada Lovelace mindblown

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 9:55 AM

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😛

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:55 AM

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i found myself sitting in the same chair a bit too long every day, so i decided to change careers 😃

wary jolt Feb 12, 2019, 9:56 AM

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I hide some times so I can read technology related stuff without people bugging me.

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:56 AM

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@thorn viper I love having a new chair every day 😛

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 9:56 AM

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hehe

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 9:58 AM

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I get three or four interesting job offers every year, but I'm just too comfortable still

hearty depot Feb 12, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Aaah.. just tryed to read up on linux gaming on https://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-play-windows-games-in-linux/
But this adblock interference is going on my nerfes.
Welp.. Heard of outline? https://www.outline.com
nice thing when there is a site wich is bugging you - you can make a shortcut to outline a site

javascript:(location.assign("https://www.outline.com/" + location.href));```

pcgamer

How to play Windows games in Linux

Discover how to get classic Windows games working in Ubuntu.

Outline

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pure vine Feb 12, 2019, 10:26 AM

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@thorn viper It was timing out, im using a custom component that makes pytradfri reconnect when the states become instable

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 10:26 AM

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@pure vine interesting. Url?

pure vine Feb 12, 2019, 10:27 AM

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@thorn viper heres the full issue https://github.com/home-assistant/home-assistant/issues/14386 and the repo with the fix https://github.com/alex3305/hass-components-debug

GitHub

Tradfri lighs stop working after a couple of hours. · Issue #143...

Home Assistant release with the issue: 0.68.1 Last working Home Assistant release (if known): .. Operating environment (Hass.io/Docker/Windows/etc.): Docker on Ubuntu. Using the homeassistant/home-...

GitHub

alex3305/hass-components-debug

Debug versions of my custom components for testing - alex3305/hass-components-debug

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 10:32 AM

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I enjoy creating documentation of my installtions

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but I hate doing training workshops

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 10:34 AM

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I've been learning ansible

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I'm using it to manage my own workstation

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 10:35 AM

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@hushed basalt I need to look into that and chef in time, when I have some free time, probably 2020 :p

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 10:35 AM

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Plus configure a rpi baby monitor

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All I want is something that will stream from the RPi camera to a phone, vlc or whatever. And I've tried like four or five different methods. And it's just sketchy

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Ansible is fun. It's quite verbose though to write

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 10:36 AM

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I do enjoy verbosity

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2019 I'm learning Powershell and HA :p

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And hopefully I will be going to vmworld, and hopefully US-side this year

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 10:38 AM

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I use ansible for everything. it's great.

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 10:38 AM

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- name: Install vim
  apt:
    name: vim
    state: present
    update_cache: yes
    cache_valid_time: 3600

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A typical play in ansible

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 10:38 AM

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doesn't seem to bad @hushed basalt

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 10:38 AM

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It's not awful

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 10:38 AM

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I also need to learn RESTful, because a lot of the company products have started using it

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 10:39 AM

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There's pros ands cons to having to declare what each variable type is

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Sometimes you wish you could just go

Apt("vim", True, update_cache=True, cache_valid_time=True)

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 10:41 AM

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@hushed basalt I actually prefer the first one, makes it clearer to me after what I actually did

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 10:41 AM

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True

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Readibility is king

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I should make some snippets in VSC to help

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 10:42 AM

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bad thing about 50% paternity leave is that the days I actually work in a months is filled up the month ahead with customer requests :p

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so right now I'm fully booked until the first week of march

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 10:44 AM

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I feel you

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My wife is on six months half pay

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 10:44 AM

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We get full pay in norway though, which is good

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 10:45 AM

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I don't get anything though except two weeks minimum wage from the government

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 10:45 AM

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Since my wife is studying I get all 40 weeks of leave

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 10:45 AM

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She gets 3 months full pay equivalent from her work

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And 16 weeks minimum wage from gov.

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 10:47 AM

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I'm probably never going to understand other systems than the scandi ones

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I think the swedes are the same as us @low harness @thorn viper

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 10:47 AM

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At least we're not American :D

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I'm pretty sure they would have to request day leave to give birth

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 10:47 AM

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@hushed basalt yeah, they get 2 days and then GET BACK TO WORK?!

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😄

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I got 21 days from my employer free to use before and after birth, then I got the 40 weeks from the state

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 10:48 AM

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Jealous

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 10:48 AM

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Yeah, talking with US colleagues who's mind is blown that we get 6 weeks of holidays, plus public holidays - and we take them

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 10:48 AM

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I have to go back to work next week

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We get 4 weeks leave plus public holidays in Australia

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We need more

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 10:49 AM

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some people claim thats why we have such a big open source software scene, too much free time 😄

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 10:49 AM

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@hushed basalt Oh, and I have 25 days every year of paid vacation 😄

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 10:50 AM

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4 weeks paid vacation is the mandatory minimum here

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 10:50 AM

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I never end up spending it though, so I've transferred 20 days almost every year the last 11 years, so this year I have 60 days or something to use

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 10:51 AM

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Did that in the past

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Ended up taking 3 months off

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 10:51 AM

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on top of all the leave I get from my overtime, I think I had 170 hours leave last year mindblown

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@clever mortar I've threatened with that 😄

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 10:52 AM

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Had a friend who managed 6 months, between holiday carried over, and flexi-time credit

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Three months was just a little too long, going back to work was hard

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Including the WFT am I doing sensation that lasted for weeks, while I got back into the routines

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 10:53 AM

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I've never done more than 3 weeks in a stretch

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I run on the walls

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@hushed basalt do you have to PAY to give birth in australia ? I heard something about Americans being "told to do cecearian" because the hospital gets to charge them more that way 😄

low harness Feb 12, 2019, 11:01 AM

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Swedish system for parental leave is awesome. I've been home for 8 months with both my kids, and now I'm home every monday until summer.

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 11:02 AM

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@clear ferry people who choose private health have to pay their gap between their insurances payment

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And there is a huge problem of private hospitals pushing caesarian

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Like ~55+% of births at one hospital near me

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 11:03 AM

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I think the norwegian number is less than 5% of all births

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 11:04 AM

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I think Americans are pretty big on pushing c sections as well

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WHO recommends around 20%

low harness Feb 12, 2019, 11:04 AM

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I had to pay $15 when my first child was born. That covered the food I ate while we stayed at the hospital. The food for my wife was free.

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 11:04 AM

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Yeah I think I paid about $15 for a sandwich and coffee

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And we bought a TENS machine for $100

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 11:05 AM

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I paid $30 for a room for 5 days, that was the total cost of the birth

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Each reusable nappy we bought cost more than giving birth

low harness Feb 12, 2019, 11:06 AM

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Did you stick to them?

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We gave up after six months or so...

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 11:07 AM

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My brother went with them. They lasted less than a month before giving up and going with disposables

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 11:09 AM

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We are only 10 days in

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I don't mind it but she's only on breast milk atm

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We just soak them in water until we throw them in the washing machine.

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We've spent too much money on them to give up :D

low harness Feb 12, 2019, 11:12 AM

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They have surprisingly high resell value 😉

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Really surprisingly.

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 11:15 AM

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Lol

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The ones we bought have months long waiting lists

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We could potentially sell them for more than what we paid

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 11:16 AM

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@low harness I just drive to sweden and buy regular diapers, pay less than 2NOK (0.23USD, 0.17GBP, 0.32AUD) per nappy

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roughly half price of norway

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 11:23 AM

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Lol

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We have Australia Tax

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America is too far away to drive though

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 11:26 AM

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@hushed basalt Just take your speedboat on the barbie!

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Or some other bad reference

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GDAY

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 11:27 AM

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All our real slang is just swear words

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If someone isn't swearing it means they don't like you

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 11:29 AM

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Sounds the same as where I am from (Northern Norway), every adjective is a swearword, and usually we refer to our best mates as "#"%#"& &"#¤#"¤%"# "#¤&"#" (censored for all the minors in here)

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looking at you @light trout

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😄

low harness Feb 12, 2019, 11:32 AM

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I've been curious. Is inhaling an actual word in northern Norway, as it is in northern Sweden?

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 11:36 AM

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@clear ferry ||Du vil ikke være så vænnlig å hente tellfart og sykle vannrætt inn i hælvette||

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 11:45 AM

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@low harness i am quite rare in Oslo as I keep my northern style of taking to people, which either makes them laugh a lot, or feel uncomfortable 😨

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 11:45 AM

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or both? 😄

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 11:46 AM

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@light trout laughing uncomfortably, the best kind

low harness Feb 12, 2019, 11:46 AM

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But really. Is it? In northern Sweden a sharp intake of air means (roughly) "yes".

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 11:47 AM

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@low harness you mean like in Gothenburg?

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They make that inward whistle for yes there

low harness Feb 12, 2019, 11:49 AM

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Wouldn't say Gothenburg... far more north. I probably never heard it natively south of Sundsvall - which is about as far north as Trondheim, I think.

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 11:49 AM

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We don't make any sounds like that where I am from though, we do sigh a lot though, to make the whole room aware that we are fed up with bullshit

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I've only heard Gothenburg people make that sound, worked with four of them, and they all whistled inward to indicate yes

vocal cave Feb 12, 2019, 12:05 PM

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Tfw this discord is full of scandi ppl blobaw

low harness Feb 12, 2019, 12:06 PM

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yup

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 12:06 PM

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cause all the french ones use domoticz

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 12:06 PM

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@proven spruce and the Chinese are too busy analysing our sensor data

vocal cave Feb 12, 2019, 12:07 PM

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Lol

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 12:08 PM

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@proven spruce funny that Hass would be spelled Ass in France I think, maybe that is why 🤷

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 12:09 PM

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there's ass in the english name already so i dont see the issue

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 12:21 PM

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Domoticz is c++

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I'm a python user myself

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You can leave your curly braces and semicolons at the door thank you very much

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 1:14 PM

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why home assistant updates always break things

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ALWAYS

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 1:15 PM

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so you dont get bored

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 1:15 PM

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haha good joke

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 1:16 PM

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I don't think I have had a singe thing break in the last 10 versions (or so) 🤷

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 1:16 PM

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in 87 McLighting broke

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 1:16 PM

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cause you dare to read the breaking changes

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 1:16 PM

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McLighting is not from/by Home Assistant 😉

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 1:16 PM

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Na i reinstalled my whole system

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They broke McLighting by enforcing stricter rules for MQTT or so

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https://github.com/toblum/McLighting/issues/327

GitHub

Upcoming Home Assistant version - Stricter MQTT config · Issue #3...

In the next version of home assistant (0.87) stricter controls have been implemented. As a result the MQTT discovery and manual config will have errors once 0.87 is released and installed The on_co...

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voluptuous.error.MultipleInvalid: extra keys not allowed @ data['on_command_type']

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 1:18 PM

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Make sense, it should have been that way from the start IMO

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 1:20 PM

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this now makes home assistant cloud unnecessary for me

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😂

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 1:20 PM

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what does that have to do with anything?

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 1:21 PM

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because i had home assistant only to control these lights through google assistant

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 1:21 PM

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I see, you know it can do more?

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 1:21 PM

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well

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and dash buttons

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and the rest api

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gosh fixed it

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 1:22 PM

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there is also 1000+ other components/platforms 😉

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 1:22 PM

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give me money

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then

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we can talk again

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 1:23 PM

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For what?

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 1:23 PM

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new devices

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lol

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What should I integrate If I don't have the hardware

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 1:23 PM

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~80% of them are not dependant on HW 😉

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 1:23 PM

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except social media control or some toys

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I don't need GPS tracking

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I don't need Social Media

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I would like to use presence detection in Wifi etc. but I don't know what to do with

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 1:35 PM

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There's your problem

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You need to work out why first

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Send you a notification about your commute 10 minutes before you're due to leave, but only if you're still home

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Send you a notification about your commute home if delays become significant

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 1:36 PM

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I have a Synology so I'm used to updates breaking things
While simultaneously being three years behind in security updates for packages.

tidal bronze Feb 12, 2019, 1:39 PM

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@eager crest if you didn't use discovery just comment out command on and it works.

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 1:40 PM

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"gosh fixed it"

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┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 1:58 PM

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@clever mortar I was shocked at my first month of google api usage, then I realized the refresh rate was in seconds, not minutes 😄 wait what, 18000 calls

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 1:59 PM

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🤣

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Being able to update entities on demand has dropped my API usage from "only just free" to "waaay below the charge point"

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 2:00 PM

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oh, can you do that for travel time ?

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Yeah, as of around 0.85 I think - certainly in 0.86

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Need to check that out

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that is what I currently use it for

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 2:01 PM

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set a high scan_interval then use homeassistant.update_entity to force it

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 2:01 PM

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I use a script, and an automation

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 2:01 PM

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could I perhaps even do a toggle by pressing the travel time itself ?

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 2:02 PM

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https://github.com/DubhAd/Home-AssistantConfig/blob/master/automation/people/person3_on_the_move.yaml and https://github.com/DubhAd/Home-AssistantConfig/blob/master/scripts/person3_traveltime.yaml for example

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Trigger off the location updates, but wrap in some logic so that I don't blindly update all the time, but require a minimum time to have passed, and that depends on how far we are from home

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 2:02 PM

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Interesting

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I need to dive into your github when I have the time

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 2:03 PM

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Won't update at all if we're already home (there's a one off update that happens at that time)

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 2:03 PM

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I'll mark my calendar for may 2021

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 2:03 PM

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I know that feeling

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 2:05 PM

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What is the "proximity" defined in ? meters ?

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 2:08 PM

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Yes, in this case

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https://www.home-assistant.io/components/proximity/

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The values are roughs, I'm still working on what makes the most sense

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 2:12 PM

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where went my ui

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clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 2:14 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/351473645178060801/544883881782804481/Z.png

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 2:14 PM

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no really

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where is it

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i can't even go to unused entities anymore

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 2:14 PM

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Well, you're asking in the channel that's for anything not HA related 😉

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 2:14 PM

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why

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 2:14 PM

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Maybe you should try asking in the right channel

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 2:14 PM

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😦

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 2:15 PM

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Which would be #frontend-archived

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 2:21 PM

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I just love imagining you coming home from work @clever mortar "Person2 I'm home, how was your day, is person3 with friends?" 😂

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 2:22 PM

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😄

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Well, I'd rather avoid identifying details being posted for the world to see, so I replace key things with other things, mostly

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 2:33 PM

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@clever mortar it would be so much better if you and your household were supercomputer androids impersonating humans, but rubbish at coming up with names

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 2:33 PM

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I'll steal that for the next time somebody asks 😉

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What do you mean Person1 is an odd name, that's how so many names are constructed. We see those all the time on forums

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 2:42 PM

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@clever mortar would be better if your entities were named "anonymous" "registered user" and "sign in to see more" 🤣

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 2:42 PM

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😄

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That'd be as easy as a search and replace on the script that does it 🤔

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 2:45 PM

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@hushed basalt I should sign up for this Engineering Seminar - Red Hat Ansible and Ansible Tower - a Red Hat Series Event work pays 😂

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Can you watch seminars in 1.5 to 2x speed

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Ansible/Puppet/Chef/etc - awesome tools

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 2:47 PM

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You should just yell out "INCREASE SPEED TWO TIMES"

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"PAUSE"

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Nothing
Worse

Than a

Slow

Speaker

At a

Conference

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 2:48 PM

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@hushed basalt live seminar 🤣

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Thatsthejoke.jpg

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 2:49 PM

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@hushed basalt not for me... We usually get access to prerecorded seminars... Which is zzzzzzzzz

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Listen to a guy talk last year is less fun than a live Seminar you can ask questions at

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And usually it's recorded with a Chinese off brand sound blaster microphone from 1994

quaint burrow Feb 12, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Hey guys, new here. I’m looking for some testers for a Alexa wake on lan skill. Gave the rules a read but still not sure if I’m allowed to post that, especially since I also have a discord for reporting problems or general help, and it might be considered advertising.

Any mod could give your opinion on this?

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 3:03 PM

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If it's a thing that could be used with Home Assistant, I don't see the issue with you posting some details about it

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It's not like you'd be the only one

quaint burrow Feb 12, 2019, 3:03 PM

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It’s not related to HA, it doesn’t require extra devices.

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Just came here looking for people into smart home automation to be honest.

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Kinda the only discord related to that.

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 3:04 PM

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That's more off topic then, and in the grey area, but ...

proven spruce Feb 12, 2019, 3:04 PM

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i find that hard to believe tho

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 3:04 PM

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There's a number of subreddits about home automation, that would be worth posting on 😉

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And there are many other Discord servers about automation

quaint burrow Feb 12, 2019, 3:05 PM

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I’ve been there already haha

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Then, I'd say you've done enough as far as advertising it to this community goes 😉

quaint burrow Feb 12, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Gotcha. Thanks for your time ^^

hushed basalt Feb 12, 2019, 3:05 PM

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@clear ferry but yes I learnt ansible just by doing

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Forcing myself to use it for everything

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I don't know much about the more advanced stuff though. The seminar sounds cool

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 3:08 PM

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@hushed basalt we have integration in our platforms for chef and ansible, that is why I want to learn it, customer value, more pay for me 🤤

pure vine Feb 12, 2019, 3:23 PM

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Nice, Open Reach have upped their FTTP speeds

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clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 3:24 PM

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I'm torn between wishing I lived somewhere that could get FTTP, and being glad I live somewhere quiet 😉

pure vine Feb 12, 2019, 3:24 PM

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they used to only have 330mpbs, but have recently upped it to a gigabit

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 3:24 PM

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I get FTTC, at about half the nominal speed of the service...

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 3:42 PM

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is there something like a script to sync all light colors in a group

unreal orbit Feb 12, 2019, 3:43 PM

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If you're using a light group, then yes

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https://www.home-assistant.io/components/light.group/

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 3:43 PM

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yes that's what i want

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like a button to start syncing using lovelace

unreal orbit Feb 12, 2019, 3:44 PM

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You have all the necessary tools to make that happen

eager crest Feb 12, 2019, 3:45 PM

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tell me how

unreal orbit Feb 12, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Read the docs on a light group. It turns it into a simple service call

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 3:52 PM

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@clever mortar I live between four big farms,but I can still get synchronous gigabit 🤣

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 3:53 PM

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@eager crest Please, read the channel topics and post in the right channel

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shakes fist at @clear ferry and curses him repeatedly

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 3:55 PM

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@clever mortar move to Norway, 90% broadband coverage, think the fiber is only 50% though

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 3:56 PM

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It's tempting, even if you do get it a bit dark in the north 😉

light trout Feb 12, 2019, 3:58 PM

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The time when it's dark is way better then the times when it's daylight all day...

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Very true

pure vine Feb 12, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Famers tend to get Mobile providers using their land for transmitters and i assume they sometimes get a fiber line through, so gigabit there is not to out there

wet pilot Feb 12, 2019, 4:13 PM

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have 1G synchronous here in the US but all of our providers are evil

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and places that have it are still pretty un-common

unreal orbit Feb 12, 2019, 4:17 PM

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When we have a system that not only legalizes being evil, but encourages it, it's kinda hard to blame them.

pure vine Feb 12, 2019, 4:26 PM

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the uk system is just like "Hey, your coverage has a monopoly, share it" Virtural operators are very common here and a lot of ISP are using BT's infrastucture(Its now Open Reach only, Retail and Infra got split by the regulator ofcom)

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 4:27 PM

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OpenReach's reach sucks 😉

pure vine Feb 12, 2019, 4:27 PM

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true, they suck less now they are no longer at the whim of BT Retail

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I think the main reason ofcom wanted the split was becuse BT retail was using most of the money Open Reach brought in

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Still not split enough IMO

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But, it's a start

pure vine Feb 12, 2019, 4:30 PM

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"BT Group's acquisition of mobile phone operator EE, which received regulatory approval in October 2015, was partly funded using £1.7bn of Openreach’s revenues." they did stuff like this to the money from Open Reach

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I mean since the split they have acctualy improved infrastructure in citys

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Well, yeah

pure vine Feb 12, 2019, 4:32 PM

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compared to the rest of the world having VDSL as the highest in major citys was a bit embarrising for the UK

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Yeah

pure vine Feb 12, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Shame you dont live in wales, Internet is getting weird there, Fiber in villages

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 4:32 PM

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The estate I lived in was bypassed for anything but DSL until very recently. They rolled out FTTC, with surrounding areas getting FTTP, and gave us enough coverage that only half the houses can get FTTC

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 4:33 PM

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@pure vine we got fiber optics in my hometown in the North (Tromsø) in 2003

clever mortar Feb 12, 2019, 4:33 PM

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If you're late to the party, you get DSL, at 2 Mb/s if you're lucky

pure vine Feb 12, 2019, 4:33 PM

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mainly becuse the welsh goverment is strong arming BT into being better in wales

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they mannaged to do it to EE to, traving through the Valleys to aberywth has 4g up until the winding roads

clear ferry Feb 12, 2019, 4:35 PM

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I lived in Dublin in 2007, the best we could get 10 minutes from city centre was wireless 2mbit, which died when it rains

pure vine Feb 12, 2019, 4:40 PM

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here is a map from ofcom

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B

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A few years back the coverage in rual areas was awful, but now its good ennough to watch someone on twitch all the way or a movie

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My mobile provider doesnt have the long range frequencys so i get drop outs, but my pairent provider does and they have signal the whole way

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 5:21 PM

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@clear ferry ie 80% of the time 😛

thin fox Feb 12, 2019, 5:31 PM

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?rank other

slim rampartBOT Feb 12, 2019, 5:31 PM

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dynoError That role no longer exists.

thorn viper Feb 12, 2019, 7:31 PM

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So what do you guys use for listening to music?